1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,760 Welcome to Grounded Wellness, your go to podcast for 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,880 simplified and trusted information on how to live a 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,160 more non-toxic and holistic life. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,000 We're your hosts. I'm Bethany McDaniel, founder of 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Primarily Pure biohacking enthusiast and mom of three. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,760 And I'm Courtney O'Connor, holistic esthetician with over 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,480 15 years experience in the healing power of touch and 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,240 holistic skin care rituals. If you've ever googled 9 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:29,760 biohacking, you might think some of these people are crazy. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,080 As a self-proclaimed biohacker, I totally get why. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,560 Biohacking can definitely take things to the extreme, but don't 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,280 write it off just yet. In today's episode, Courtney and 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,280 I cover a wide range of bio hacks. 14 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:45,200 We touch on basic and accessible bio hacks, but also dive into 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,600 some more obscure and advanced options. 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Let's dig in. Hello everyone and welcome to 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Grounded Wellness. Courtney and I are here at the 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,440 farm and we are talking about biohacking today. 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,600 And for anyone that isn't familiar with biohacking, Dave 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Asprey who is the self-proclaimed father of 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,520 biohacking defines it as using science, biology, and self 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,000 experimentation to enhance health and life. 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Courtney, did you do any biohacks this morning preparing 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,200 for this episode? You know, my morning was a 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,720 little bit shorter of routine to get out here on the farm for the 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,360 podcast, but I did do my moment of stillness and breath work 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,240 just to settle in and regulate my nervous system before filming 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,480 today. What about you? 29 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:39,440 Oh yeah, I did the hyperbaric chamber. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,720 I went in there and reviewed some notes for today, read my 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,560 Bible a little bit, and then I actually did a rectal ozone 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,440 inflation. Wow. 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Can you tell me? About that really quick before 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,040 we dive into that hard. To tell you really quick about a 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,880 rectal ozone and completion, maybe we'll just cover it when 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,000 we get to the ozone section. I might. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,080 We might lose half our audience if I, like, dive into the deep 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,480 end. Amazingly, yeah. 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,520 We'll start a little slower. So the idea behind Bio Hacks and 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,600 why we're doing this episode is because we are up against a lot 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,640 in our modern world, like we are surrounded by more toxic 42 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:22,400 exposures than ever before in history. 43 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:28,160 And so while these are not necessarily foundational, you 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,840 know, must do's for health, they can be really helpful in 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,680 mitigating some of the the toxins that we're exposed to in 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,600 this modern world. But I also don't want to 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,440 downplay them. Like some of these things can be 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,120 really life changing and even life saving, as we'll talk about 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,680 with some of these bio hacks. A lot of these bio hacks are are 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,560 pretty cool and can make a big difference in someone's. 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Life, definitely, and we're going to talk about some of the 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,320 more technologically advanced, like Bethany just mentioned, a 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,960 couple that you incorporated this morning, ones that may be a 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,400 little bit more of an investment, but a worthwhile 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,360 investment. And then more of the simpler, 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,000 accessible and more budget friendly options. 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,560 And just really encouraging all of our listeners in our 58 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,920 community that regardless of where you're at on your health 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,960 journey or your budget, that you can implement these biohacks and 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,640 see such a significant change and baby steps really do make 61 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,040 such a big difference in your health. 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,640 There's a lot of different options in the biohacking world. 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,800 You don't have to go full throttle at it. 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,080 You can kind of pick and choose what works for you. 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,400 And I think one other thing I want to bring into the 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,600 conversation is this concept of self health that we talk about a 67 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,200 lot primarily pure different than self-care. 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,480 This isn't about like doing the the thing that you like want to 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,840 do necessarily in the moment that's going to give you like 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,760 that boost of endorphins and feel good. 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,080 I think the self-care movement gets it wrong when it just 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,960 relies excessively on this idea of like indulgences and treat 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,720 yourself like your puppy. Chow when you're pregnant? 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Yeah. And then you feel awful. 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Afterwards, I told the story on a podcast episode that we just 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,760 recorded about how I had this intense craving for Muddy 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Buddies, AKA Puppy Chow. I made myself a batch of it with 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,399 the cleanest ingredients I could find and felt absolutely 79 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:20,680 terrible after eating it. Sometimes our cravings and our 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,600 emotions lie to us about what we want. 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,120 And so that's kind of like where I think the self-care movement 82 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,200 gets it wrong of like this overly big emphasis on self 83 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,440 indulgence at the expense a lot of times of like your overall 84 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,200 well-being. Because sometimes doing the hard 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,520 thing in the moment is what's best for us. 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Sometimes not giving into those cravings or we know whatever 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,000 that temptation is, is what is actually best for us long term. 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,600 Not that there's not a time and place for that, for sure. 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,480 That's self-care. Self health is more so investing 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:57,640 into your own health, not from a place of like narcissism or just 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,520 wanting to feel good about everything else in life, but 92 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,400 investing in yourself, investing in your health so that you can 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,800 better show up for your calling, your purpose in life, and the 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,320 people around you in life. And so that's, I think like how 95 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,600 biohacking fits into to that equation, like these little 96 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,520 hacks that we can implement that allow us to show up as our best 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,000 self. Yes, I love that and I think too 98 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,720 sometimes biohacking can feel really intimidating and 99 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,440 overwhelming. But really there is this 100 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,280 beautiful back to basics approaches. 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Well and how even just simple things that we're surrounded by 102 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,000 a nature like grounding and earthing, the breathwork things 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,520 that we're just, we have access to on the on a daily basis. 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,480 And just yeah, reintegrating these basic habits into our self 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,040 health routine to biohack how we feel and our well-being. 106 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,600 I think we come from a unique approach as well 'cause I think 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,600 so often in this biohacking space and different experts or 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,560 speakers or people who are implementing these bio hacks can 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:06,520 come from a place almost of trying to play God and outsmart 110 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,040 death essentially and try to never die. 111 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Like to be this generation that outlives everyone and can just 112 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,920 play God essentially. I had a friend who went to a 113 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,680 biohacking conference and he told me that there was a speaker 114 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,600 who was quite vulnerable in his presentation. 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,400 But how? Because he didn't know what was 116 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,040 on the other side of death. And this fear of death, this 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,520 fear of the unknown, he was trying to do everything within 118 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,840 his power to prevent that from happening. 119 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,800 And that just hit me so hard on like, because we have this 120 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,960 unknown of what's on the other side, we're essentially living 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,000 out of this place of fear and implementing these bio hacks 122 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,520 purely to prevent the unknown from happening, which is also 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,000 impossible. And so just wanting to come from 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,080 a place of the self health perspective, wanting to remain 125 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,160 present and show up for a purpose this side of heaven here 126 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,040 on earth. And I think, yeah, to us, these 127 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,520 bio hacks aren't to try to outlive or play God, but to 128 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,080 really just show up more present for a purpose and the people we 129 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,440 love. Yeah, this is not to be lumped 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,040 in with Brian Johnson's $2,000,000 a year quest for 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,160 immortality. Like that is not what we're 132 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,200 talking about. That's not what we're advocating 133 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,280 for. This is about just little things 134 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,360 that we can do, little tweaks that we can make to be healthier 135 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,760 while we're on this planet. Yep. 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Not because we're afraid of death, but because we want to 137 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,400 live life to the fullest. Yeah. 138 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Yeah. For that. 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Having said that, let's see it. Let's do. 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,480 All right. First, biohack. 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,840 We're starting out really tame with this one. 142 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,720 Red light therapy, love, this is something that both of us do. 143 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,560 It's recognized as being very safe, very low risk, but also 144 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,000 really beneficial. This works on a cellular level, 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,240 improving the health of your mitochondria, which is the 146 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,760 powerhouse and energy source of our cells. 147 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:03,080 And as we know, healthier cells mean a healthier self. 148 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,680 And so this is a really powerful one. 149 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,000 It's also really good for skin health, really good for collagen 150 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,760 production, balances skin tone, soothes inflammation, really 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,360 good for tissue repair. There's one study that I was 152 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,920 just looking at where they compared two groups, one that 153 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,560 was doing red light therapy only twice a week and one that 154 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,360 wasn't, and it showed a significant improvement in 155 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,040 complexion and collagen density in the skin. 156 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,640 Amazing. So this really works. 157 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,440 It's really simple. It feels good. 158 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,320 There's a lot it's. Not a huge time commitment, no. 159 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,760 That study was just twice a week. 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Yeah. Twice a week and I forget the 161 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,320 total duration of time, but it the total duration wasn't even 162 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,560 that long either. So there's so many different red 163 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,600 light devices on the market right now, I don't actually know 164 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,560 which ones or which one you have and use. 165 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,640 I have the Juve handheld device OK with the little dock that it 166 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,160 comes on. I know bond charge has a lot of 167 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,360 amazing. Yeah, Bond Charge is great. 168 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,480 I love their red light face mask. 169 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,440 They're a great company. They have a lot of different 170 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 options, but it's really easy to have it stuck with this one too. 171 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Yes, you can do something else. I like laying down and listening 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,560 to a podcast like on airplane mode while I'm doing red light 173 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:17,640 therapy. I'll also do it in the middle of 174 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 the night sometimes if I wake up, my mind's like racing and I 175 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 can't go back to sleep. That's a brilliant idea. 176 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,320 It works. So well, and I discovered this 177 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,000 on accident one time when I woke up too early and I was like OK, 178 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,200 well I'll just do some red light. 179 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,320 I have nothing else to do right now and if after I did it I 180 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,480 noticed that within a few minutes I was like super drowsy 181 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,440 again and I just thought huh, that's interesting. 182 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,560 But I tried it a few more times and the same thing would happen 183 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,680 every single time. And so now it's been years and 184 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,240 it's like my hack for falling back asleep in the middle of. 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,560 The night, and that's amazing because I feel like often the 186 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:54,560 like typical thing to do if you wake up at 2:00 AM is to scroll 187 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:56,680 on your phone and then you're getting that blue light exposure 188 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,480 if you don't have the red setting on your phone. 189 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,320 So instead of hindering deeper sleep with the blue light with 190 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,960 your phone, you're doing the red light to help. 191 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Support deeper sleep. Exactly Who's that? 192 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Yeah. What do you do when you do red 193 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,040 light therapy? I'll do. 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,120 I have this app that I love. It's like this meditation prayer 195 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,880 app. And then I do legs up the wall 196 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 to support my nervous system. That's a good thing. 197 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,960 Or just lay and hold it. And I always forget to do that. 198 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,200 Legs up on the wall. Wow, that's a good one though. 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,120 Yes, yes, highly recommend. And yeah, like 10 minutes is 200 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,160 that, yeah, it's really simple to incorporate. 201 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,280 So easy to fit into your life, yes? 202 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,320 So do you typically do the face mask one? 203 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,720 I have that one and I have a handheld one, OK. 204 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,560 And so I just kind of rotate. There's not really a rhyme or 205 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:41,720 reason to it. Yeah. 206 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,800 And do you feel anything when you're doing it? 207 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,680 Like for someone who's never tried red light before, like, 208 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,320 what do you feel? What's the experience like? 209 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,520 I feel, I mean, my skin, I feel like just, it feels a little bit 210 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,720 more even and like I noticed like an improvement in texture 211 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,240 and like softness, maybe some of that I'm like imagining, but 212 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,240 especially like with continued use, I feel like my skin 213 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,960 responds really well to it. Yes. 214 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 And I don't know, it kind of calms me too. 215 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Do you feel that way when you do it? 216 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,360 I do so I love doing it before bed cuz I do feel like it helps 217 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,560 to just relax my whole nervous system and after working on a 218 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:24,640 computer all day and writing content I feel like it helps to 219 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,360 mitigate that blue light from the day which I try to wear my 220 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,880 blue light glasses. And I noticed a difference with 221 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,560 my tone and with my wrinkles like especially on my forehead 222 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,320 like I noticed some soften when I'm really consistent with my 223 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,920 red light. Although I will say I am prone 224 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,480 to cold sores and I have found if I don't wear an SPF lip foam 225 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,760 it sometimes can trigger cold sores really for me. 226 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,360 Interesting, so you wear an SPF lip balm when you do the red 227 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:51,880 light? Therapy. 228 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 I wear ours that were testing. Oh my. 229 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Gosh. Sneak peek for all of our 230 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,480 listeners, but yes. Interesting, I also think it 231 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,880 helps with with acne with pimples. 232 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,680 It does, yes. Because it's good for for easing 233 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:09,960 inflammation. And so if I have a breakout or 234 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:16,480 if I have a few pimples, I am extra committed to my red light 235 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,200 therapy because it really does make a difference and how long 236 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,960 it takes for those to go away. Truly, I'm obsessed with this 237 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,280 hack because I feel like it incorporates like a full body 238 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,920 health and skin health and you see and feel a shift so quickly. 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,800 And if you aren't able to invest in a red light device, which 240 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,680 some of you have, like the full panels, which are definitely 241 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,640 more of an investment, or they have like the smaller solar wand 242 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,800 type devices or the mask, but also just getting outside first 243 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,560 thing in the morning for sunrise or sunset, that's when there's 244 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:48,280 higher levels of red light from the sun. 245 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,400 And so that's a simple, easy way to also get those medicinal 246 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,040 benefits from red light in the sun. 247 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Yeah. Free red light therapy free You 248 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,320 love that cold. Therapy don't love. 249 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,920 So cold therapy, the benefits include boosting immune function 250 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,400 and that happens because it increases your white blood cell 251 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,640 count. It's good for energizing the 252 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,120 body. It can be anti-inflammatory, 253 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,000 boost mental clarity. It can be also really helpful 254 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,680 for anxiety and depression. And different forms of cold 255 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:24,600 therapy include like full on cold plunge like automated. 256 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,960 You can also get portable cold therapy plunges like Amazon has 257 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,560 several of those options. You can set up your own your own 258 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:35,520 cold plunge, like in the bathtub. 259 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:42,640 You can take a cold shower, take a dip in a lake or a river 260 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,240 certain times of the year in certain places and get cold 261 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,520 therapy that way. So there's a lot of different 262 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 ways to incorporate cold therapy into your life. 263 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,880 You don't love it, why not I? Well, first of all, just because 264 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,080 it doesn't feel the greatest initially, but obviously all the 265 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,240 benefits you just mentioned you've it's the self health 266 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,040 thing. Like it may not feel good in the 267 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 moment, but you know, the long term effects are definitely 268 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,240 worth it. I think definitely in certain 269 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,720 phases of our cycle, like I feel like men can cold plunge anytime 270 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,720 all the time. Or with women, we have to be 271 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,280 more mindful about where we're at in our cycle and not when 272 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,840 we're menstruating or in our ludial phase, but when we're 273 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,640 ovulating or like in our follicular phase. 274 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,440 I think that could be great. I think the only time I've 275 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,400 really been down to cold plunge is after I sauna. 276 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,240 I feel like I can. Handle it a bit more and it 277 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,040 doesn't feel as intense. Yeah, that's the only time I do 278 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,160 it, OK. Amazing. 279 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,360 And how often do you do yours? I go in phases with it. 280 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Sometimes I'm in it like multiple times a week and 281 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,600 sometimes I'll go weeks without doing cold therapy at all. 282 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,560 So it just depends. But yeah, no, I only do it after 283 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,080 the sauna. I mean, it feels the best to me 284 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,080 doing it then and it's the easiest because the cold sounds 285 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,200 nice after you've been in the heat for so long. 286 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,880 So that's the only time that I do it. 287 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,360 And also like you mentioned, the cycle, I'm the same way. 288 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,080 I won't do it right before I start my period or during my 289 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,560 period, but afterwards. What's the middle phase again? 290 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,600 Ovulatory. Ovulatory, yeah, but, but I love 291 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,920 cold plunging during the ovulatory phase and kind of a 292 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,680 little bit before or after that. Yes. 293 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,640 And how long do you typically stay in the cold plunge and what 294 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,400 temperature do you typically keep it at? 295 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:35,960 52° is what we keep ours at and I'm in there anywhere from like 296 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,240 a minute to 3 minutes. I don't go for that long, but 297 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,600 oftentimes 2. I'm like a minute and a half and 298 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,000 then I go in the sauna for another 10 and then I get 299 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,200 another minute and 1/2 or two minutes. 300 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,680 I've heard 11 minutes per week is like the sweet. 301 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Spot OK in total. Yeah, total amazing for the 302 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,200 whole week. Yeah, Yeah, I do feel really 303 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,720 good when I do it. Like I feel energized. 304 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,880 I feel amazing. I think there's also something 305 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,600 to this idea of like starting your day for people, that cold 306 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,640 plunge in the morning, like starting your day with something 307 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,640 really hard. Yeah. 308 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400 And then overcoming that and then the other challenges that 309 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,880 you face throughout the day don't seem as difficult because 310 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,120 you've already chosen to do something really hard. 311 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,880 On that note, my fiance, actually, he does his Co plunges 312 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,200 pretty consistently because it also increases the size. 313 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,200 I call it MC for short because I can't remember the full name of 314 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,880 it in our brain. But when we do things we don't 315 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,840 want to do, it actually increases the size of that in 316 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,120 our brain, which increases our capacity and our resiliency. 317 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,200 And so whether it's Co plunging or another biohack or something 318 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,520 else for our health, when it's something we in, that's just the 319 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,680 beauty of discipline too. It's like, I know this is good 320 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,000 for me. I don't want to do it, but I'm 321 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,760 going to. And it actually increases our 322 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,240 resiliency and capacity over time. 323 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,280 So maybe I need to start doing my cold plunging and help that 324 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,280 grow a bit. And what are your tips, Bethany, 325 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,480 when you're doing your cold plunging to like help you stay 326 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,760 focused and like stay in the cold plunge? 327 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,040 Well, first of all, I'm really not that tough with it. 328 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,079 I mean, as you can tell by the amount of time I'm in there, 329 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:08,480 it's not it's not that impressive, but it's still hard. 330 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,480 I mean, it's still you still have to like tap in a little bit 331 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,400 to that that mental strength. And so I just breathe. 332 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,040 I just like I, I don't try not to panic. 333 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,119 I try to go to a place of just calm and, and focus, focus on my 334 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,400 breathing and just tell myself like, it's kind of like 335 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520 childbirth, like this hurts, but it's OK. 336 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Like, it's OK, you're uncomfortable, but you're OK, 337 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,640 you know, just kind of like. Keeping that mind, telling your 338 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,000 body you're safe, this is all. This is a good thing, yeah. 339 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:41,840 Because it can be quite shocking when you get into the cold 340 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,200 plunge. Yeah, this is something that is 341 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,200 fun for my kids, too. Like they, they see us doing it. 342 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,280 And so they like the idea of it and they'll, they're curious 343 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,640 about it and they'll try it, but they obviously like don't last 344 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,480 very long. But it's fun to see them, just 345 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,760 like it's fun to see how it sparks their interest and 346 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,160 curiosity And they're like willingness to, to do 347 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,240 challenging things. Amazing. 348 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,880 So on the opposite of cold therapy, let's talk heat therapy 349 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,760 as another biohack. And similarly, there are lots of 350 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,600 options to implement heat therapy. 351 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,880 One is something we've already touched on, but the infrared 352 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,040 saunas, which we absolutely love. 353 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,920 And I'm excited to talk to you about that because I know you 354 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,240 have one and use it regularly. And also dry saunas. 355 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,480 And so heat, this heat therapy essentially rises your core 356 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,760 temperature and it creates this hormetic stress, which is what 357 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,320 we've been talking about. So it's beneficial stress that 358 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,920 builds the resiliency within your body and within your 359 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,760 health. So talk to us about your 360 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,800 experience with saunas and the benefits that you've experienced 361 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,680 doing this consistently. Yeah, I love saunas. 362 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,440 Our infrared sauna was like the first health investment that my 363 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,280 husband and I made and it may still be like my favorite 364 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,240 biohacking tool that we have in our tool kit. 365 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,000 It just feels so good. Like you notice an immediate 366 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,640 difference and it's it's not like the cold plunge also feels 367 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,120 good, but it's more of like an energizing, jarring, like 368 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:11,320 alertness, good feeling the cold plunge and the sauna's just like 369 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,000 it's like a reset. It's so feels so therapeutic, 370 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,080 It's relaxing. You can do it in the morning, 371 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,800 you can do it before bed, and no matter what, it's going to be 372 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,000 beneficial. So I love the sauna. 373 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,840 It's so detoxifying. Like just sweating is so good 374 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,880 for you. It's one of the most important 375 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,880 ways that our body gets rid of toxins. 376 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,000 And I don't think most of us sweat nearly enough. 377 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,000 But then you don't have to. Do like a grilling workout to 378 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,960 like get the sweat on like you can sit in a sauna. 379 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,400 Yeah, amazing. It's like a shortcut. 380 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Yeah. But I Yeah, and I can't say 381 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,000 enough good things about sauna. I love this study that was done 382 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,160 in Finland where most people sauna regularly. 383 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,720 So the control group for this study was actually people who 384 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,920 sauna once a week because that's just the norm there. 385 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,840 Like everyone's going in the sauna at least once a week. 386 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,320 So the control group were people that went in the sauna once a 387 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,520 week. It was a 20 year study with 2000 388 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,040 people and they compared the once a week sauna goers to 389 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,880 people that did two to three sauna sessions a week. 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,200 And then people who did four to seven sauna sessions a week. 391 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,480 So the people that did two to three sauna sessions a week had 392 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,080 a 24% lower risk of death overall. 393 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,720 And then the people that went in four to seven times a week had a 394 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,280 40% lower risk of death overall. That's a real biohack right 395 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,160 there. Right. 396 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,160 Like there's your proof. Yeah. 397 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,640 And those numbers are pretty crazy. 398 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Like going in the sauna 4 to 7 * a week to have a 40% lower risk 399 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,160 of death. It's pretty remarkable. 400 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,400 Wow, I love that. And So what kind of sauna do you 401 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,040 prefer and what do you have? So I have a sauna, an infrared 402 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,640 sauna from a company called Heavenly. 403 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,920 Heat. And what I love about Heavenly 404 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Heat is that they don't use chemicals to treat the wood that 405 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,040 they used to make the saunas. They don't use glues to make 406 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,760 their saunas. And the problem with using 407 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,680 chemicals to treat the wood and using glues is that when you're 408 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,640 in the sauna and obviously the temperature is really high, that 409 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,600 can release a lot of fumes that you will then breathe in if 410 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720 there's like a bunch of chemicals and glues in there. 411 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960 So I love that about Heavenly Heat. 412 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,840 We started with a really small model and now we have one that 413 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,000 all of us can fit in at the same time. 414 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,080 So yeah, they're a great, very great option. 415 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 And then there's more budget friendly options. 416 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,320 There are sauna blankets. Bond Charge has a great one. 417 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,600 What are your thoughts on the blankets? 418 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,640 Because I know I feel like we've had some questions of are they 419 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,280 as effective? Are they worth purchasing or 420 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,160 should they hold out for like the real thing? 421 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,720 What are your thoughts on it? It's hard to say exactly. 422 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,720 I think like if you're, I think the real thing is going to be 423 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,680 like the best option that you're that you'll probably like use 424 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,280 the most and get the most out of. 425 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,120 I think that the blankets can still be really effective 426 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,920 though. If that's just like way out in 427 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600 the future for you, like getting a real wood sauna. 428 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,640 I think the blankets can be super effective and a great 429 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,840 option. I have lots of friends that use 430 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,080 them and love. Them amazing. 431 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:06,880 Love that. Yeah. 432 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,960 And then hot baths are one for the therapy and I think there 433 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,360 was a study to done where a 30 minute bath burns as many 434 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,200 calories as a 30 minute water. Yeah. 435 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,920 I've heard that and obviously won't have like the same like 436 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,600 benefits for your muscles and things like that, but totally. 437 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,000 But yeah, hot baths have a lot of their own benefits and really 438 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,880 effective for detoxifying. I love taking hot baths with up 439 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800 with Epsom salt. Yes, at our sea. 440 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,480 Soak in there. Yeah, I love. 441 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,400 And sometimes I find that I I'm surprised by how much I will 442 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,440 sweat in a hot bath. Like there's super effective for 443 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,240 that. I also love just being in a 444 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,080 humid place and like walking outside for like 30 minutes. 445 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,360 Like last summer we did a big road trip and we spent a lot of 446 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,360 time in the South. We were in like Florida, South 447 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:56,680 Carolina, Georgia, and it was just so hot and muggy and humid. 448 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 And I know that that sounds horrible to a lot of people, but 449 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,480 I was just like, yes, no, I sign we. 450 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,080 Drive in that space. I like in humidity. 451 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,760 I thrive in the heat. Just like walking out and being 452 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,320 drenched in sweat. I'm like, Oh yes, I love it. 453 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,960 Yes, we're like describing some people's worst nights. 454 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,440 Absolutely. I think I grew up in Michigan as 455 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,840 well where we're under snow for like 9 months out of the year. 456 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,680 So I think I'm like, I'm, I'm past my cold phase of life and 457 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160 I'm like, give me all the heat. Yeah, yeah. 458 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,720 I grew up mostly in California, and so traveling to those places 459 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,000 in the past, like initially it was kind of shocking to me and 460 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800 and it was like really pervasive and overwhelming. 461 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,920 But as I've gotten older, I've just grown to really love it. 462 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,120 OK, next topic, Grounding. This is a favorite of 463 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:47,160 Courtney's. Courtney's been grounding before 464 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,520 this was being widely talked about before it was accepted by 465 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,040 the masses. I don't know if it's fully been 466 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,320 accepted by the masses yet, but I think it's it's going in that 467 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,480 direction. What do you love about 468 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,800 grounding? This is a biohack, which it's so 469 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040 incredible that we can even call this a biohack. 470 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,720 It shouldn't be a biohack really. 471 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,440 Like it's this is foundational. Yes. 472 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,160 Like I know at the beginning we said these aren't foundational. 473 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,520 This one is though. Absolutely. 474 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:16,120 And it is free, like fully free being barefoot on the earth, 475 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:20,360 which is what we're doing here. And I have found this to be the 476 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:25,600 most immediately grounding experience, like truly the way 477 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:31,040 that it just allows me to exhale more deeply and regain 478 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,400 perspective. And it's incredible to know like 479 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,440 you feel the immediate shifts in your nervous system, in your 480 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,200 mindset, just lowering stress levels very quickly. 481 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,680 And then on a very scientific level, looking at scans of the 482 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,480 body, it actually lowers inflammation immediately. 483 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,400 Like inflammation cannot be happening when we are connecting 484 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,840 to the Earth in this way. And so I love it because I also 485 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,240 just think like this is how God created the earth, like as 486 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,160 medicine to help to heal us. This is one of the most healing 487 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,800 things we can do for our body and mind and nervous system. 488 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,520 And it's super simple. You just slip off your shoes and 489 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,920 just enjoy the earth. Yeah, it's really amazing. 490 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600 And like you said, there are literally scans that show the 491 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,400 before and after and within seconds of grounding. 492 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,200 Like you can see in these scans, the inflammation just radically 493 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,120 decreases, like red inflamed areas, once they're grounded, 494 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:37,920 become shades of green and blue in these scans that show like 495 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,040 inflammation and measure inflammation in the body. 496 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:43,280 And the reason this works is because the earth has an 497 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,640 abundance of free electrons. And so when we're inflamed, when 498 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,760 any part of our body is inflamed, free radicals will 499 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,440 steal electrons from the nearest possible molecule. 500 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000 But when we're grounded, the free electrons flood the body 501 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,760 and go towards the area of the body or areas of the body that 502 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,560 need to be repaired and just flood that area with an 503 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,760 abundance of free electrons. So there's real science behind 504 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,600 this. It sounds simple, it sounds woo 505 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,520 woo, but it's not. There's legitimate, legitimate 506 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,840 benefits to grounding. We had Clint Ober on the show 507 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040 recently. He is known as the grandfather 508 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,000 of the grounding movement. And I love this quote from him. 509 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,880 He said that the rubber soled shoe was single handedly the 510 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,120 most deadly invention of all time, like so powerful. 511 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,400 And the reason for that is because it separates us from the 512 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,560 earth. When we were wearing, you know, 513 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,720 leather shoes, shoes made with natural materials, we were 514 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560 always connected to the earth. And since the invention of the 515 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,480 rubber sold shoe, we have lost that connection to the earth at 516 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040 our expense. Yeah, definitely. 517 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,600 And so even practicing grounding, if you don't have 518 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,240 access to be barefoot on the earth, like if you are buried in 519 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,440 a bunch of snow or you live in a city, there are other ways. 520 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Like even if you're walking barefoot on concrete or gravel 521 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080 that's not sealed, that's effective. 522 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,680 Walking late on lakes, rivers, I think to even like moist earth 523 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520 helps to accentuate and enhance the more. 524 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Conductive. And there's incredible companies 525 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,920 like Clint Overs called Earthing and some other amazing shoes 526 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,640 like Earthrunner or Rome that you can actually, what is that 527 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280 one called? Bahe Bahe, you can purchase 528 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,320 grounding shoes. So even if you don't have access 529 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,240 to earthing or you don't feel comfortable walking barefoot all 530 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680 around, like at the beach, it's very socially acceptable for me 531 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160 to walk barefoot everywhere. There's you walk barefoot 532 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,160 everywhere, Period. Whether or not it's socially 533 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,880 acceptable, that's true. That's true. 534 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,160 And even sleeping mats for grounding, that's something I've 535 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,200 invested in and I've had on my bed now for about a year. 536 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,080 And I truly remember when I first put it on my bed, waking 537 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,640 up the next morning, I was like, I have not slept that deeply in 538 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,680 SO. Long, I feel the same way. 539 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,280 We've had ours for a few months now. 540 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,200 Yeah, it's a game changer. And I felt like that was the 541 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,040 best investment piece because I'm like, what's like the 542 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,680 longest I can be connected to get the benefits of grounding 543 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,280 and it's when I'm sleeping in my bed. 544 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,840 And there's also patches that you can purchase. 545 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,440 And I actually was such a cool story with one of my dear 546 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,680 friends. And Clint has done some studies 547 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,880 with his products, too, that have shown similar results. 548 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,960 But she had a lump on her breast, and she put the 549 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,520 grounding patch on the lump and within a few months it was gone. 550 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240 And Clint said he did a study up in, I think, Marion County in 551 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Northern California, where there was countless breast cancer 552 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920 cases in a really condensed area. 553 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,120 And so they brought their grounding products up and did 554 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,960 this test with these women and told them to put the patch on 555 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,880 the breast until the tumor was gone. 556 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,480 Just keep it on. And he said some of those tumors 557 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400 were gone in three days. What profound. 558 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,040 That's insane. Crazy and he has like all these 559 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720 studies on his website and can look deeper into it. 560 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,000 Yeah, earthing.com is a great place to start if you're 561 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,880 interested in grounding products and and Clint Ober's book as 562 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960 well. And we like to do some of our 563 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280 facials on the farm sometimes where I'm grounding. 564 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,640 And he's talked about as well that even if you're earthing and 565 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,480 you touch somebody else, they get the impact and the benefit 566 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,920 of earthing as well. So even I love being barefoot on 567 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920 the earth doing facial treatments, because then there's 568 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,480 the added benefit of being grounded during your facial for 569 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280 even deeper parasympathetic support and lower inflammation 570 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,480 levels. Yeah, there's nothing like a 571 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,520 grounded facial at the farm. I've had one of them and it was 572 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040 the best. So good. 573 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,640 Let's talk about ozone therapy. I know we both have a little bit 574 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,280 of experience with ozone. I have an ozone generator at 575 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,640 home. Shout out to Simply O3. 576 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880 They make amazing ozone generators. 577 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Ozone has a lot of benefits. It is O3, so oxygen is O2. 578 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Ozone is O3 and it's oxygen with an extra molecule. 579 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,040 And what that extra molecule does is it attaches itself to 580 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,560 pathogens in the body and pathogens can't live in an 581 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,320 oxygen rich environment. So it's really effective at 582 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600 eliminating pathogens from the body in different capacities. 583 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,080 It can be infused into water that you can drink. 584 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,880 It can be infused into oil that you can use on the skin. 585 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,840 You can use the gas in your ear canals which is good for the 586 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,560 brain and eliminating pathogenic bacteria in the brain. 587 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920 You can also do rectal ozone insufflations with the gas. 588 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Now we're going to talk about it. 589 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,480 You can do vaginal ozone insufflations with the gas, so 590 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,920 it can be administered in a lot of different ways. 591 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,240 It can be used in IV form to purify the blood, and so I've 592 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,760 done several of these at home with my ozone generator. 593 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,440 So I'll unpack the rectal ozone insufflations a little bit. 594 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Rectal ozone insufflations are a really good way to get ozone gas 595 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,040 into your bloodstream without using IV ozone, which I 596 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,360 obviously I'm not able to do that at home with my generator. 597 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,280 I would need to go into a clinic or a doctor's office that has 598 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,560 that type of ozone set up. Rectal ozone insufflations are 599 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,840 like the next best way to really get that hit of ozone into your 600 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840 system. I've noticed personally that it 601 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680 really helps with mental clarity. 602 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Like I was doing a lot more of this when we were dealing with 603 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,080 mold and trying to detox from molds. 604 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,160 This is a really effective way to eliminate those pathogenic 605 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,240 bacteria from the whole body. It has a systemic effect. 606 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,640 So it it, yeah, you administer it rectally, but it really has 607 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160 like a an effect on your whole system infinitely. 608 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,920 I did a lot of ozone gas in my ear canals also when we were 609 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,080 recovering from the mold stuff. And I always have ozonated olive 610 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,640 oil at home. I haven't actually made this 611 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,360 myself with my generator, but I get it from pure O3. 612 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,800 So my generator's from simply O3, but I get the ozonated oil 613 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880 from pure O3 and I know you have experience with the oil as well. 614 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,680 Yes, so I mentioned previously with the red light, I am very 615 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,920 prone to cold sores, sun exposure, stress, sickness even 616 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,160 in my cycle before I start my menstrual cycle and I've tried 617 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360 every possible cold sore cure on the planet. 618 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,640 I feel like and for like it'll work once and then it will stop 619 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,080 being effective. Ozonated bones are the first 620 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,720 thing I have found that consistently like cut my cold 621 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,760 sore healing time in half and so I just stab it on as soon as I 622 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,400 start to feel that little tingle and within a few days it's gone, 623 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,680 which is a godsend for me. That's amazing. 624 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,680 And what company do you get yours? 625 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,640 From Taylor, social media manager told me about a brand 626 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080 from Canada called Living Libations and she's based in 627 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Canada. So she sent me a sample to try, 628 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,240 which I was like, I'm forever indebted to you for this. 629 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560 So it's an ozonated ball that they create. 630 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,720 I've used the ozonated olive oil on breakouts also and it's 631 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560 really effective. Yeah, it does have an 632 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,880 interesting aroma to it. It's ozone. 633 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960 People say it smells like rain. Oh. 634 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,400 Which makes sense because our atmosphere has an ozone layer 635 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080 and some of that comes down after a rain. 636 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,800 I. Love that. 637 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Yeah. I have a question on all these 638 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,320 different forms of administering ozone. 639 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,520 How were you guided by somebody? How did you learn about this? 640 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,200 And are there like specific protocols that you have to 641 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,120 follow? If you Google Ozone, probably a 642 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,160 lot of what you'll see is that this is unsafe and dangerous and 643 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,120 that you shouldn't do it. But ozone is widely used in 644 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,160 medical settings in several other countries, and it's 645 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000 really, really safe if you dose it appropriately. 646 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,080 And so it can be unsafe if you don't have the right dose. 647 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,920 But Simply O3 has amazing guides and instruction manuals on how 648 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,440 to dose each type of ozone that you can do based on like what 649 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,560 you can do with the machine and the setup that you have. 650 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,760 And so those were really helpful for me. 651 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,800 I also just did so much research on my own before I started doing 652 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,000 anything with ozone and I'm in touch with a local those on 653 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,840 expert here in Menifee not too far away who has like been 654 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,639 really helpful and kind of like guiding us on how to use it 655 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,199 appropriately. But it's super, super safe if 656 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,199 you get the right dose. You don't want to overdo ozone. 657 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,760 You definitely want to research it before you just dive in and 658 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,679 ideally like find someone to work with and, and, and ask 659 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,159 questions too. But this can be a really 660 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,920 beneficial biohack, especially for anyone who has a high viral 661 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:45,120 load or parasitic overgrowth or has dealt with mold illness. 662 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,440 Ozone can be life changing. Wow. 663 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,679 Which I feel like we all need that then like I feel like we 664 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,080 all kind of can be exposed to those or how those in our 665 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,760 bodies. Yeah, things are. 666 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,680 Here's the place for it. Yeah, there's another biohack 667 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,280 that I feel like it's kind of in the same vein, like maybe new to 668 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,160 a lot of our listeners and may feel a bit intimidating. 669 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,800 So Bethany talked to us about hyperbaric oxygen chambers, what 670 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,800 they are and why you love them and why you have one. 671 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,240 Yeah, hyperbaric oxygen, it sounds kind of wild, but it's 672 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:22,200 actually it's a really like safe and pretty tame biohack, I would 673 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520 say. We have a hard shell hyperbaric 674 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,840 chamber in our home. This was like a recent 675 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,280 investment that we made. Some people invest in Bitcoin, 676 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,280 we invest in health devices. Love it. 677 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800 But basically what it does is it floods your body with 678 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,120 pressurized oxygen. So you you go go into this 679 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,480 chamber. There's different sizes. 680 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,520 Ours is the decent size where like I can fit in it with my 681 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,960 husband. I can fit in it with one of my 682 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,600 kids. So it doesn't feel 683 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,880 claustrophobic for me. But you go inside, you shut the 684 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,600 gate, and then you start pressurizing the chamber while 685 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,320 you're breathing in pure oxygen in a tube through your mouth. 686 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,640 And the pressurization process takes like 10 minutes. 687 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,240 You want to get it to a decent pressure. 688 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,280 So you're in this pressurized chamber breathing the oxygen, 689 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,120 and it just floods your body with oxygen and it floods your 690 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,400 blood, your tissues, oxygenates your whole system. 691 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,560 And so as you can probably imagine, this is just good for 692 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,240 like almost anything. It's really good for longevity. 693 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,600 There was a study done in Israel where they showed that 694 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,200 hyperbaric oxygen therapy increased telomere length. 695 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,840 And so telomere length is a biomarker of longevity, like our 696 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,120 telomeres shorten as we age. And so I think this might be the 697 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,240 only thing that has ever been shown to actually increase the 698 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,920 length of our telomeres and our telomeres are a part of our DNA. 699 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,800 So really good for that. It's been approved for like I 700 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,520 want to say 10/12/14 like medical quote uses where a 701 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,640 doctor can actually prescribe hyperbaric oxygen therapy for 702 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,120 something. I think some of those things are 703 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,720 like sports injuries, crushing accidents. 704 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,440 So like if you're let's say your foot is crushed in an accident, 705 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,800 a doctor can prescribe like literally write a prescription 706 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,840 for hyperbaric oxygen therapy. When I broke my heel and I had 707 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,080 to go to my wound care center, there was a huge hyperbaric 708 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,840 oxygen chamber section. And I knew at that point that 709 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,400 you would, like, started doing this practice. 710 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400 And I was like, Oh my gosh, it's at the hospital. 711 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,840 That's yeah. Yeah. 712 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,640 Oh, did you do it at? All they didn't prescribe. 713 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,680 It to me I wonder if you asked I was right next. 714 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,760 Door should have, yeah. I did do red light therapy 715 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,920 though. That's something I meant to say. 716 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960 So for injuries and healing, near infrared light. 717 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,800 Yeah, I mean, it should be prescribed for so many more 718 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,040 things than what it's like been approved for. 719 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Head injuries are another thing like a lot of NFL athletes that 720 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,480 have these debilitating head injuries have gotten better with 721 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,240 hyperbaric oxygen therapy. With brain scans, you'll have a 722 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:59,240 scan showing parts of the brain that are like not functioning 723 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,680 and essentially just like dark and after hyperbaric oxygen 724 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,480 therapy, like come back to life really and start working again. 725 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,600 So it's really cool how. Frequently do you do it. 726 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,800 Would you? I try to do it twice a week 727 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,680 because it takes some time. Like to get it pressurized 728 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,800 alone, it takes about 10, 10 to 15 minutes. 729 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,600 And then you have to be in there for an hour and then to 730 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,760 depressurize, it's like another, it's like 10 minutes to 731 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,480 depressurize. So it's a bit of a commitment. 732 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,840 Yeah. And with ours, you're not 733 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,960 supposed to bring phones in or computer because what could 734 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,760 potentially happen is like the battery could explode under the 735 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,200 pressure, which would be very, very bad and deadly. 736 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,080 So we just steer clear of that. I think with some chambers, 737 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,000 people do bring devices and we just don't do it. 738 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600 And it's kind of like kind of protects the space as well. 739 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,080 It's like a place that you just go to read or like for me, I'll, 740 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,640 I'll look over podcast notes and prepare sometimes for these 741 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,000 mornings. Yeah. 742 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,760 So I try like twice a week. Oh good wow. 743 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,200 For those listening that might be interested in pursuing this 744 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,920 biohack, do you have any resources or recommendations on 745 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080 where to go? How to start implementing it? 746 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,160 Yeah, If you can't, if you don't have a condition that warrants a 747 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,880 prescription for hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and if you do, 748 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,200 you'll probably have to ask for it. 749 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000 Like most doctors won't just prescribe that. 750 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,720 So it's something that you would have to like, advocate for and 751 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,200 really push for. But aside from that, there are 752 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,920 lots of like these stand alone like clinics that have them 753 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,160 available. They can be quite expensive even 754 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,600 just for a session though, but but that's an option. 755 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,600 There are a lot of like these health centers that have them 756 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,600 now, is there? Like a range of a rate that it 757 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,360 would cost to. Yeah, I think so. 758 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120 And it probably depends on like whether it's soft shell or hard 759 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,480 shell. The hard shell ones are more 760 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,080 effective but also more expensive. 761 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,640 If this is something though that like you think for anyone 762 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,040 listening, if you like you think that you would really benefit 763 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,880 from this or a family member in some capacity. 764 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,440 Like I would recommend pooling together with a few friends or 765 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,640 family members and maybe investing in one that that can 766 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,800 be shared amongst like a group. Of people. 767 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,760 I love that idea. Yeah, I feel that way with the 768 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,760 sauna too. Yeah. 769 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,040 Get the neighborhood together. Get a neighborhood sauna. 770 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,520 Right. It's like, it's like health 771 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,280 insurance, like community health insurance. 772 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,760 OK breath work. This is such a simple 1. 773 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,720 I feel like it would be easy to overlook, but it's super 774 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:28,560 powerful. How do you incorporate breath 775 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,760 work into your day? This is the one I did this 776 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,360 morning and similar to grounding the immediate effects that I 777 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,320 feel by really tuning into my breath and really being mindful 778 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,040 and prioritizing that, it immediately shifts your nervous 779 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,000 system. Like when we incorporate breath 780 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,520 work, it activates our vagus nerve and our vagus nerve is the 781 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,600 longest cranial nerve in our body. 782 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,920 It actually contains 3/4 of the tissue in our parasympathetic 783 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,840 nervous system. And so our breath is a direct 784 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,720 link to our nervous system. It's like our bodies chill out 785 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:07,160 button essentially. And so especially with just 786 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,360 living in just chronic stress a lot of the times and living in 787 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,400 our fight or flight phase and in the sympathetic state, breath 788 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,520 work is something that we always have access to and we can always 789 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,480 take a moment and just slow down. 790 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040 It's another free one. It's another free one that we 791 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,440 always have with us. And a breath, a breathing 792 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,280 practice that I really love, is the extended exhale. 793 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,960 And so breathing in for four, holding for four, and then 794 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,120 exhaling for 8:00. I think often times if you think 795 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:44,200 about it like if we're afraid or stressed or scared, we do this 796 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,320 like short little gasp of an inhale. 797 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,960 But then when we're like settling in and we feel safe and 798 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,600 we feel relaxed, we let out this like sigh. 799 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,080 And so I'm really kind of honing in into that sigh. 800 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,480 And that exhale helps to trigger that parasympathetic nervous 801 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,960 system and. That's another trick that helps 802 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,360 me go to sleep. Exhale. 803 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,600 In particular, do you follow a certain pattern or do you just? 804 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,120 I do this thing and I don't even know where I got this, but it's 805 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,680 like 6 seconds or no. I'll start with like 3 like 3 806 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,400 seconds and hold for three seconds, 3 second exhale, and 807 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,240 then I'll go up to like 10 and then like back down to three, 808 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,760 like 333-4445. And then. 809 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,400 So I don't know where that came from, but I started doing that a 810 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,680 while ago. Yeah. 811 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,080 And I'll do Wim Hof like during the day usually. 812 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,080 How is the Wim Hof breathing I. Like it, I feel like some people 813 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,800 say it's too intense. I don't feel like it's that 814 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,040 intense. Like I love the breath hold. 815 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,000 I feel like that is a great way to like oxygenate the body of 816 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,880 the deprivation hold. And then like the the hold at 817 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,400 the top of the breath, I don't know, does something. 818 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,840 I like it. I almost feel it. 819 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Can you lead us in that? Can you do it? 820 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,200 Like right now, yeah. I mean, I feel it would take a 821 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,920 long time, 'cause I would have to do, yeah, I'd have to do the 822 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,920 30 minute, the 30 breaths in and out. 823 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,360 Oh, OK. And then you and then you like 824 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,200 like after the last one you breathe out and then you hold 825 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,160 and it's like a hold for like a minute. 826 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,120 OK, OK. And then take a deep breath in 827 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,280 and when I'm like, the more I do it, the more the longer I can go 828 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,360 well. So sometimes I'll be able to do 829 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,320 like a 2 minute plus like breath hold. 830 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,480 Wow. How do you feel after that? 831 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,760 Really good. Wow. 832 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,000 Centered. Yeah, wow. 833 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,480 Energized, but not like, jittery or like, yeah, I think some 834 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,600 people think that it's just like, like too intense, but I 835 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,480 don't know. I like it. 836 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,680 Oh my gosh, I haven't tried Imhoff, which is I was like, can 837 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,160 you lead us? But that's like a good 838 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,200 description of like, what it entails. 839 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,320 Yeah. And I just feel like I really 840 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,520 love the self help practices in the bio hacks that really 841 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,040 support our parasympathetic nervous system 'cause that's 842 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,840 when our bodies can regenerate and heal and repair. 843 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,760 And I feel like our breath is one of the most powerful ways to 844 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,080 support that and to regulate our nervous system. 845 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,080 And when we're regulated, that has an effect on the people 846 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,400 around us and we can actually Co regulate others. 847 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,840 So even like, I don't know, do you ever do this with your kids 848 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,080 where you like breathe with them? 849 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,400 If they're ever like really heightened or really having a 850 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,240 moment? Yeah. 851 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,200 How do you have you seen that be beneficial with them parenting? 852 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,920 It's so hard for them when they're so caught up in the 853 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,400 moment and their emotions to like, pause and breathe. 854 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,920 It's like we're still kind of working on that. 855 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,320 But yeah, it's super powerful if they can take a minute and like, 856 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,480 just, it really helps to calm them. 857 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,440 Yeah. Mouth taping too. 858 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,880 I wanted to touch on with this as a way to help breathing 859 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,680 because there's a lot of information around mouth 860 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,760 breathing versus nose breathing. And so even mouth taping to 861 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,920 support breath and breathing and getting that just proper oxygen 862 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,360 through the nose and doing that while we sleep can have a big 863 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,320 effect on do you do it sleep quality. 864 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,240 I love it. Similarly with the grounding 865 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,040 mat, the red light before bed, the mouth taping. 866 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,120 Best sleep of my life, definitely. 867 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,240 When I go to sleep now, yeah, there's just so many things when 868 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,840 I travel and I like have to put all the stuff together to go 869 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,200 somewhere. I'm like, this is crazy. 870 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,640 But it's like I don't bring my grounding mat actually. 871 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,800 But at home it's like the grounding mat. 872 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,280 It's the sleep mask to like get rid of any, any bit of light at 873 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,320 night. It's the earplugs, the mouth 874 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,680 tape. It's like so many little things. 875 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Sleep is the number one. Biohack, I feel yeah, like that 876 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,240 is so important to optimize. So all these are supporting 877 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:41,440 deeper sleep. It's worth it. 878 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000 And I think even the breath fit going back to like your cold 879 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,000 plunging, like what it what's helping you maintain your time 880 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,560 in the cold plunge is your breath. 881 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,240 And so even like helping to manage pain and get through 882 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,760 stressful situations, like it's a really, really powerful tool 883 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,200 that we always have access to. Yeah, and birth. 884 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,320 And birth. So that too, yeah. 885 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,640 It's not like the the old school like, like I think women that 886 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,040 were doing that a lot in like the 90s maybe. 887 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,720 And it's like, not the right move. 888 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,560 Right when my sister was in labor and I was there by her 889 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000 side to help support her. And I knew nothing about birth 890 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,040 at that time. I mean, I still don't know that 891 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,760 much, but I went up to her ear to help guide her breathing and 892 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120 that's what I did. And she was like, that is not 893 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,920 helpful. So stop breathing in my it's. 894 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,800 Like what we always saw in the movies Growing. 895 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,480 I was like, this is what I've seen. 896 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,680 All right, last biohack we're going to touch on is fasting. 897 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:36,000 So also, in my opinion, something that is like 898 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,800 foundational to being human and has always been a part of being 899 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,960 human, whether by choice or out of necessity, I think that our 900 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,840 bodies are capable of going for periods of time without food. 901 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,960 This is something that I've gotten into a lot over the last 902 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,640 several years and I have found there to be really profound 903 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,640 physical, mental and spiritual benefits to fasting. 904 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,800 My favorite physical benefit of fasting is just the autophagy 905 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,680 and the cellular cleanup that happens when you're in a fasted 906 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,640 state. So when your body's not focused 907 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,160 on digesting and putting all of its energy into breaking down 908 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,680 food and extracting energy out of the food, this cool cellular 909 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,520 repair mechanism called autophagy is activated where old 910 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,520 and broken down cells are recycled and better functioning 911 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,640 cells are made. And so the best way to activate 912 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,360 this is when you're in a fasted state. 913 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,600 And I actually like when I first got into fasting, I really like 914 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,960 felt the benefits of this, Like I felt more clear and clean and 915 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,000 like it just I could feel like the cleanup that was happening 916 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,960 in my. Body like how long I was into 917 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,560 your fast? Did you start to feel these? 918 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,240 Even just with intermittent fasting, like and for me that's 919 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:52,080 like a 16-8 fasting eating window. 920 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,480 So fasting for 16 hours and then eating within an, an 8 hour 921 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,760 period during the day, which I don't do all the time now. 922 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,400 But when I started out, I, I wasn't diving into like multi 923 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,680 day fasts right away. I started with intermittent 924 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,000 fasting. And even with that, I felt a lot 925 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,480 of those benefits. And then especially when I 926 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,440 started doing extended fasts, I really experienced those 927 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,880 benefits and the mental clarity that was another one that was 928 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,360 huge. I will say like before I get 929 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,720 into all of this, like I do a lot less fasting now. 930 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,440 I feel like my body was really beneficial in the beginning, 931 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:32,200 having gone a lifetime of like eating, snacking, always 932 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,440 throughout the day from like when I would wake up to when I 933 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,240 would go to sleep. So in the beginning, I really 934 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,480 reaped the benefits of going for periods of time without food. 935 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,280 And now I feel like I don't have to do it as often. 936 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,040 And I kind of do it intuitively based on like when I feel like 937 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,160 my body needs it. And more like a reset. 938 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000 Yeah, yeah, I think you can definitely overdo it with 939 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,280 fasting. It can be detrimental if you do 940 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680 too much of it, like any of these bio hacks, you know? 941 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,800 But I also don't really agree with people who say that like, 942 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,320 women should never fast and that fasting is not a good idea at 943 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,160 all and it's not healthy. Like totally disagree with that 944 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,480 notion. I've also found it to be so 945 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,600 beneficial kind of like with cold punching in terms of just 946 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,640 the mental discipline of doing something that's hard and kind 947 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,600 of like the rewards and the transformation that can come 948 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,040 from doing hard things. And then spiritually as well, 949 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,920 like for me, like as a Christian, the Bible says like 950 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:33,120 the Bible doesn't talk about fasting in the sense of if you 951 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,240 decide to fast. It talks about in a sense of 952 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:39,520 like when you fast. So I believe like as a follower 953 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,360 of Jesus, it's something that we are called to do and incorporate 954 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,680 into our lives and, and really like commit ourselves to praying 955 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,240 for certain things and accompanying that with fasting. 956 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,840 And so I've seen the benefits of that personally. 957 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,800 And, and going forward, honestly, like now fasting is 958 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,320 more of that for me. Like when I do engage in it, 959 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,960 it's more of a a mental spiritual thing and less of a 960 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,000 physical thing. Yeah, that's so beautiful. 961 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,360 Thanks. Love that, can you What are some 962 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,560 resources you would recommend if people are new to fasting and 963 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,040 wanting to start incorporating it? 964 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,840 Yeah, Doctor Jason Fung has a great book called The Complete 965 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,120 Guide to Fasting. Will Cole also has a book on 966 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,920 fasting that I read. That one was really good. 967 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,480 And then I wrote, I've written a few blog posts about fasting 968 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,880 that I think are really helpful where I explained like exactly 969 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,920 how I started the process because like I mentioned, I was 970 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,720 someone that was like snacking or eating from the time I wake 971 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,440 up, from the time I went to bed all of my life. 972 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,240 And so initially the idea of fasting just seemed really scary 973 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,280 and honestly kind of impossible. Totally. 974 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880 But I really break down these blog posts like exactly how I 975 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,440 went about it in a gentle way that wasn't like too much of A 976 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,360 shock to my system. And it and it started with 977 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,280 intermittent fasting just shortening my eating window 978 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,240 throughout the day and then kind of shortening that more and more 979 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,280 and more. Not every single day. 980 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,440 There was still some days where I would eat breakfast, lunch, 981 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,120 dinner, normal. But yeah, it was kind of a 982 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,640 gradual progression starting with intermittent fasting and 983 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,680 then getting into like my first 24 hour fast and then my first 984 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,880 72 hour fast. And the longest one I did is was 985 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,240 a six day fast. And I have a blog post on and 986 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:23,760 purelife.com all about that. The comments section has been 987 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,240 going off on your fasting loaded and everyone's sharing their own 988 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:29,320 experiences and their journey. That's actually. 989 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,160 A really good place to like to start and to hear other people's 990 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,080 experiences on fasting too. Yep, definitely yeah. 991 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,240 And we'll link those blog posts and book recommendations in the 992 00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,800 show notes, too. So as we wrap up our favorite 993 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,640 bio hacks, there are several others that we haven't talked 994 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,800 about, either because we haven't tried them yet or we have tried 995 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,600 them and we hate them. So let's just let's quickly go 996 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,720 through a few that we haven't really talked in depth about and 997 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:56,240 why that's the case. Yeah, let's do it. 998 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,040 NAD plus IV therapy. Do you have thoughts? 999 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:06,400 The only thoughts I have is that I was seeing an endocrinologist 1000 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,360 a few years back who takes a very holistic approach. 1001 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,760 Like her whole emphasis was on balanced nutrition and stress 1002 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,120 reduction and supplementation and we weren't really getting 1003 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,040 very far and she recommended this for me. 1004 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,200 I never did it but it was on her recommendation and I truly 1005 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,080 trusted her and her approach and her holistic mindedness and so I 1006 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,400 was open to it. But then I didn't actually 1007 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,680 pursue it. So doesn't really answer the 1008 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,760 question, but it was on my rater for a little bit. 1009 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,040 Yeah, would you do it if you were presented with the option? 1010 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,160 I think I would purely because it was almost as if she had 1011 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,440 prescribed it to me. And like I think this would be 1012 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,360 really beneficial after taking all my labs and knowing me 1013 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,200 intimately for like 2 years because I trusted her. 1014 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,480 But I honestly haven't done my own personal research even on 1015 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,840 what it is or what the effects are, but purely because I was 1016 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,240 working with her I would. I know it's good for longevity. 1017 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,240 That's really all I know about it. 1018 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,240 But I think it's been like well studied and and I think that 1019 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:13,960 there are probably a lot of benefits to it. 1020 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,880 But what I don't like about this one is that it takes so long. 1021 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,360 It I've heard it makes you feel like you are like crawling in 1022 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,240 your skin, like it jacks you up like how people describe it is 1023 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:27,320 what I would imagine it feels like to be on speed. 1024 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:28,840 Wow. I know. 1025 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,720 And so that's a bit of a turn off for me. 1026 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,520 Yep. And then the IV, because you 1027 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,680 have to, because it does have that effect. 1028 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,600 Like it you have to go so slow with it that I've heard it can 1029 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,800 take like four or five hours. In terms of the cost benefit 1030 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,680 analysis, like this one, the cost for me just feels like it 1031 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,840 might be too high. Yeah. 1032 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,080 And I'm not interested. OK. 1033 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,640 And it's really expensive. OK. 1034 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,920 I think actually that was one of the reasons I was like, maybe 1035 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,640 I'll pause on this because they did look it up at a local clinic 1036 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,640 and it was quite expensive. Yeah, yeah, not worth it in my. 1037 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,720 Opinion I like to stay calm so if that makes me feel like I'm 1038 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,280 being numb mate. And maybe it doesn't. 1039 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,720 If anyone's tried it, please let me know what it. 1040 00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:08,120 I know it would give me like. A solid description of what it 1041 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,120 feels like, but it doesn't sound fun based on what I've heard. 1042 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,960 Yeah. OK, coffee enemas. 1043 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,480 This is 1 I just can't get behind, pun intended. 1044 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:26,680 But I have tried it twice and I just it just it just can't do it 1045 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,680 on a regular basis. What didn't you like about it? 1046 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,840 I think everything she's like. Everything it, I think it just 1047 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,120 feels like slightly invasive. And like you, were violated. 1048 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,560 A bit and like having to lay on the bathroom floor and then go 1049 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,200 to the bathroom feeling like I was just in India for six weeks, 1050 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,720 like I'm not here for that. I get that, I get that. 1051 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,240 I did coffee enemas regularly for a really long time. 1052 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:57,960 And then I stopped when I got pregnant with with my son. 1053 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,760 And, you know, that was, you know, two years ago. 1054 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,720 He's 2, he's 2 now. And I always thought like, I'll 1055 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,360 get back into it. I'll get back into it. 1056 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,720 And I just haven't like felt, haven't felt peace about like 1057 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,480 diving back into the coffee enemas for whatever reason. 1058 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,240 I think it is like a bit of a process too. 1059 00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:18,000 And then the cleaning, like the brewing coffee, the cleaning, 1060 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,240 another one that just kind of, it feels like a big 1061 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,160 inconvenience. And I know, like, I've done it 1062 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,600 regularly. Like when you get in the habit 1063 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,480 of it, it's fine. But yeah, it just hasn't been 1064 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,800 something that I've been eager to like, dive back into. 1065 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,280 Have you ever done water enemas or purely coffee? 1066 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,680 No, I've never done a water enema. 1067 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,040 I've only done coffee. Cuz actually I did the water 1068 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,360 once. I have never done a coffee, but 1069 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,560 it was water that I did. I do love the feeling 1070 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,560 afterwards, like you do feel really clear headed and good, 1071 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,560 but I feel that way from doing ozone insufflations, rectal 1072 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,400 insufflations and that's a lot less of a headache. 1073 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,640 I also do colonics. I do colonics once a month. 1074 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,720 I think I would prefer to do that, just have someone else, 1075 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,200 yeah. Exactly, take care of it exactly 1076 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,040 and you don't have to deal with any of it, any of the mess or 1077 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,960 any of the like pre or post stuff. 1078 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,560 But I do like my monthly colonics. 1079 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,200 Is it a similar experience like how you feel after with the 1080 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,160 coffee enema and the colonics? Yeah, because she flushes me 1081 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,520 with water several times and then she does a coffee flush at 1082 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,360 the end. So you still get that boost in 1083 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,400 glutathione and like the mental clarity and all of that. 1084 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,880 So amazing. It's like so much salt that you 1085 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,520 just float on the surface. And I think what people say 1086 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,160 about this is that it's super relaxing. 1087 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,640 I know at the place that I went to, they were saying that a lot 1088 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,320 of a lot of veterans would come in and it would like it was. 1089 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,080 It was the only place that they were able to really relax and 1090 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,760 sleep. Like some people would come in 1091 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:50,360 and sleep in the float tank like overnight, so I could see there 1092 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,880 being a place for it. It's not something that I would 1093 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,400 like spend time on or pay to do. I didn't. 1094 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,880 I just didn't get that much out of it personally. 1095 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,560 Did you feel claustrophobic in it? 1096 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,600 No. Or like okay. 1097 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,160 No, I just didn't like it. It was just kind of like that 1098 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,080 was just floated for an hour. I did float in the Dead Sea and 1099 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,160 thought it was a cool experience. 1100 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,280 Well, that would be. Really. 1101 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,920 But not like out in the open in nature and like an enclosed 1102 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,960 like. That's an experience for sure, 1103 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,280 yes. This was like trying to emulate 1104 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,720 that, but kind of missing the mark in my opinion, yeah. 1105 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,880 What about wearables? The aura ring, the whoop 1106 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,840 bracelet? Like these things are so popular 1107 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,600 right now so. Popular. 1108 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,480 Would you ever get any of those or try any of those? 1109 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,800 I feel like I have an unpopular opinion, but I do not love them. 1110 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,920 I feel like sometimes it can just feel a little like, I think 1111 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,280 if you had a very intentional purpose for it and you're 1112 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,920 tracking something that's like vital to your health and you're 1113 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,120 trying to see balanced and it can help you reach those goals 1114 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,040 in a very specific way. But I feel like it could easily 1115 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,120 just become like a little bit obsessive with like tracking all 1116 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:05,040 this data and all these numbers. And I, I just, it just feels 1117 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,920 like too much. And unless I'm really using the 1118 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,040 data to make, like if you're using the data to make changes 1119 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,200 in your health, but just to track it, just to track it feels 1120 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,960 like. An extra variable that you maybe 1121 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,400 don't need. Yes, and I don't love having 1122 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,640 something attached to me at all times so. 1123 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,200 Yeah, I I agree. I think they can be valuable, 1124 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,960 just depending on what your goals are. 1125 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,200 I was interested, I was really interested in getting the aura 1126 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,040 ring several years ago, but this was when my son was little. 1127 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,000 And I'm like, I'm being woken up multiple times a night. 1128 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640 Like I have all these things outside of my control. 1129 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,880 I don't want a device telling me like you've you slept horrible 1130 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,520 last night. Like, OK, I know I did. 1131 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,760 Yeah. There's nothing I can do to 1132 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,360 change that. So in the beginning, I'm like, 1133 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,000 I, I don't want to deal with that. 1134 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,360 Like a stress of having something tell me that I'm not 1135 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,440 doing well when there's nothing I can do to change it. 1136 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,280 Yeah. But now I kind of almost still 1137 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,880 feel the same way. Like if I make a choice that is 1138 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,960 going to impact my sleep or my heart rate variability or 1139 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,080 whatever, it's like most of the time I try my best. 1140 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,840 And if I don't, it's because I'm intentionally choosing to like 1141 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,160 sacrifice this health marker for this other thing. 1142 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,760 And it's, it is what it is and I'm choosing to do it. 1143 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,400 And I know it's like, I just, I don't know, I feel like if you 1144 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,480 have an awareness of these things already, yes, maybe it 1145 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,240 isn't as necessary. But that's just my two cents. 1146 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:26,920 Yeah. Same. 1147 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,360 Some people love them and yeah and get a lot out of. 1148 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,920 Them yes, which is fun when I have facial guests who wear 1149 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,000 their aura ring and then they look back at that day it they 1150 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,040 took a nap during that hour of their facial like that's how 1151 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,000 deeply relaxed they were is their ring thought it was cool. 1152 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,800 It's interesting like. Totally. 1153 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,880 It's interesting. Place in life where you can take 1154 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,440 it all like as information and not and not let it impact you 1155 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,200 too much or like stress you out too much. 1156 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,360 But it can be helpful. What about rebounding? 1157 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:56,960 Oh, love. Yeah. 1158 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,280 Love. That was an easy one. 1159 00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:59,240 Yeah. Yeah. 1160 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,600 Have one. Love it. 1161 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,880 It's just a simple, simple, fun way to get your lymphatic system 1162 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,360 going, which is so vital for health. 1163 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,000 And it makes you feel like a little kid again. 1164 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,960 And you really only need like. I mean, you can do it however 1165 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,440 long you want, but even just like 3 minutes in the afternoon 1166 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,680 can provide such a benefit. That's a good bang for your 1167 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,920 buck. Great bang for your. 1168 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,680 Buck Biohack, OK, I think that was a good one to end on, good 1169 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120 positive light one to finish up with. 1170 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,600 Yes, Bethany, I love your bio hacks. 1171 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,120 They're so inspiring, hiring and just seeing how you implement 1172 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120 these. As a mother of three running a 1173 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,680 business, it's like it is possible to take care of your 1174 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,320 health and it's so vital to show up with the purpose that you 1175 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,160 feel called to follow this side of heaven. 1176 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,320 And so thanks for sharing all of your insights today. 1177 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,240 So grateful. Thanks. 1178 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,960 And I love your simple approach to all of it. 1179 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,560 Like you don't have to have all the things. 1180 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,720 Sometimes they can be helpful and beneficial, but there's also 1181 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,880 a lot you can do on your own with just the earth and your own 1182 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,800 breath work and just O many different things that all of us 1183 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,280 have access to. Yes.