1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,120 This morning shed trend. Have you heard of this? 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,760 It's where people are applying absurd layers of skin care 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,200 products all over their face before they go to bed, with the 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,640 goal of taking it all off in the morning to a perfect complexion. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,400 Beauty burnout is such a thing. People also want to know our 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,520 thoughts on micro needling and dermaplaning. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Some type of a growth factor is important when you're getting a 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,440 micro needling treatment to help with barrier and skin repair. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Something to kind of help regenerate and heal after. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,160 People also want to know about bikini line skin care. 11 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,880 What do you do for your bikini? Line In my early aesthetician 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,280 days I used to do bikini waxes and Brazilian waxes and I have 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,320 never had one. Something I'm geeking out on is 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 circadian biology. I mean, everyone around me, 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,560 people are tired of hearing you talk about this. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,600 I did a poll on Instagram and I asked people what they wanted us 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,120 to talk about. The number one thing people 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,840 wanted to hear from us on was, all right, Courtney, this 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,560 ketchup is so overdue. The last time we recorded an 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,599 episode together at the farm, you were single and you were 21 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:09,160 living in Newport Beach, CA. And now you're married and 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,600 you're living in Texas. Yes. 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600 So what has been the bigger challenge? 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,360 Your first year of marriage? Almost year almost, or becoming 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,200 a Texan. This question is amazing. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,960 It's so good to be back. I feel like it's been so long 27 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:27,320 since we've done this together. Leaving the beach was very 28 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:31,080 bittersweet for sure. And I think both definitely have 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,480 their challenges in their own way. 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,400 Like John and I are both in our later 30s, so merging 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 lifestyles, personalities, preferences, you know, comes 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,800 with some adjusting. And then moving to Texas, we're 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,960 in the country, so most things I'm used to having at my 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 fingertips aren't as readily available. 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Like really great coffee shops and gluten free bakeries. 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Orange County totally spoiled me. 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,480 But genuinely, overall, I feel like both being married and 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,880 moving to Texas has been like a breath of fresh air. 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Like it's truly felt like an exhale. 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,320 Like being married to the best man ever in so many ways. 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,800 And living in the country in Texas, I grew up in Michigan. 42 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,480 I grew up riding horses. I always had a dream to live on 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,760 a ranch. And so I'm kind of having this 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,480 like, crazy, like, dream come true moment that I never like. 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,640 It was like a forgotten dream that's become reality. 46 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:28,080 Yeah. So although I'm so bummed to 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,000 leave my bachelor at life at the Beach, like if God had to pluck 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,960 me out and put me anywhere, that was like, this is the best place 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,640 to be. So we're on like, hundreds of 50 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:39,160 acres that his family has with cattle and chickens and pigs. 51 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,000 So I'm learning the homesteading life. 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,160 And it's kind of funny because obviously I lived like steps 53 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,800 from the sand, so I would always be bare, but I would be wearing 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,400 all my Beachy clothes, which were very appropriate there. 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280 But now in the country they're not as acceptable or appropriate 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,840 and I can't be barefoot anymore or I get attacked by fire and 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,640 scorpions and wolf spiders. Yeah, so taxi. 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,760 I think it's like Australia, but everything is way more dangerous 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,680 in Texas than. Anywhere else, everything's 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 bigger and scarier in Texas. Actually my. 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Learning. Parents live in Texas and I 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,360 remember the first time we were texting because I was, I was 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,680 visiting them and we just happened to be like in 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,080 conversation. And I was, it came up that I was 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,040 in Texas and Courtney was like, Oh my gosh, we should see each 66 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,120 other. And I'm like, do you know how 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 big Texas is? No, I know, I think. 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,000 We're like we're like 5 or 6 hours from one another but in 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,360 the same state. It's massive. 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,120 It's huge, Yeah. Even driving out when we were 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,480 moving from California, we got to the Texas border and we were 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,960 only halfway to home. Yeah, I know we've done that 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,800 drive a lot. My parents live in the Austin 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,360 area, so we've made that drive from Southern California to 75 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Central Texas several times, and you just kind of like breeze 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,680 through California, Arizona, New Mexico, and then you're just in 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,360 West TX for what feels like forever and there's nothing 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,800 there. It's just desert. 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,560 It's not pretty. That's what I had in my mind 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,680 about Texas. And we live in East Texas. 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Texas, obviously much further to get there from California, but 82 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 it's so lush. We moved in the summer. 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,600 I felt like I was on Hawaii, like on one of the islands in 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Hawaii. It was green from like sky to 85 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,440 the ground. Everything's super humid, 86 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,920 tropical, so many lakes. Do you live near a lake? 87 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Yeah. Oh, nice. 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Thank God because I'm a water baby so there's several lakes 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,600 all around. Do they get cold in the winter? 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,120 Can you cold plunge in them? You know what I haven't tried 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,720 yet? You should try that when I get 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,360 back, yes. Yeah. 93 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,920 OK. I want to dig into something 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,600 with you. I saw an article in the 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Guardian, it was from about six months ago and it was talking 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,240 about this morning shed trend. Have you heard of this? 97 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,480 Yes, I have. I have seen it. 98 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,520 OK, so it's where people are applying absurd layers of skin 99 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,520 care products and sheet masks all over their face and even 100 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,400 their necks and lips before they go to bed with the goal of 101 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,960 taking it all off in the morning to a perfect complexion. 102 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,120 Yes. So I think I can guess what you 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,480 think about this, but I want you to tell me what you think about 104 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 it. Well, honestly, I have been 105 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,960 guilty of this trend to an extent, to an extent. 106 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 I don't take it as far as a lot of these influencers on TikTok. 107 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,920 But when I I'm seeing this, I'm like, oh, I've had seasons where 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,920 I'll wear my Castor oil pack, I'll wear my mouth tape, I'll 109 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,600 wear my frownies, I'll do a hair oil mask and my slugging like to 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,080 like. And to me that feels like a 111 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,400 normal amount to do before bed because each has such a specific 112 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,240 purpose and a benefit and I'm willing to commit to that 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,520 practice. So sometimes in the morning I 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,600 feel like I am doing that whole shedding routine and the needing 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,120 to shower out the oil and everything. 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,240 But I definitely think it can go too far. 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,720 Beauty burnout and Wellness overwhelm is such a thing. 118 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,800 And so I think with most trends and like to do's, I think it's 119 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,680 really important to evaluate our why and the intention behind it. 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Like is it for a viral video and views, or is it because you 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,040 truly have a health imbalance that you're trying to support or 122 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,480 repair? And I think when we come from 123 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,200 that position of like it's simple, it's sustainable, it's 124 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,800 supportive versus, you know, I'm, I'm going to do this for a 125 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 show or like for this perfect appearance. 126 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:20,080 I think that's where it can go a little bit too far. 127 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,760 I feel like what you're talking about is is so different though. 128 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,200 It's like Wellness things to support your whole body. 129 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Yeah. Whereas I feel like from what it 130 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,920 sounds like to me, yeah, it's just all about like skin barrier 131 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,880 overload is what? I think of yes. 132 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,800 When I first saw this 1000% and I think we see that in just like 133 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,360 the skin care routines in general. 134 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,880 It's like, OK, all of this after the 12 step skin care routine 135 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,200 has already been completed, then you go put all these things on 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,200 and sleep in them. It's like when is your skin ever 137 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,560 just your skin, yes, you know, and then wake up and maybe put 138 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,760 makeup on yes. And so it just seems like so 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,520 much. It is so much. 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,720 And girls now like this is starting at younger and younger 141 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,520 ages. Sad. 142 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Like we've talked about this a lot, just the Sephora trend 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,960 among teenagers and this is what they're spending their money on 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,440 now. And I think we're starting to 145 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,080 see a little bit push back, a little bit of push back on that. 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,760 And I'm hoping, I'm hoping that in 2026, people are going to 147 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,800 kind of go back to basics and skinnimalism, which I think you 148 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,360 made-up that term, didn't you? I would love to take credit for 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,680 that but I I don't remember. I feel like I had seen it maybe 150 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,720 somewhere, but it just makes sense. 151 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Like minimalism, skin care, skinnimalism. 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Yeah. So I do think that we at 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,760 Primarily Appear have made it a thing for sure. 154 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,320 And I think that that's kind of where things are going. 155 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,800 Like I think people are going more towards barrier supportive, 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,760 yeah, simple routines. That's just what I'm feeling at 157 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,200 least some next. Year, yeah, definitely. 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,080 I think that's on the horizon for sure. 159 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,200 I think we're starting to wake up to the reality that less 160 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,320 truly is more, yeah. Have you ever tried face taping 161 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,280 at night? I've done frownies OK but like 162 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,560 the actual like kinesthetic type tape that. 163 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Yeah, any of it. I don't know. 164 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,880 I don't know too much about it. Yeah, I don't. 165 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,600 I haven't. No, just the Frownies. 166 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Do you do them? Regularly, I haven't done them 167 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,040 in a couple of years, but there was a season like I used like a 168 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,000 full pack because I found I would furrow when I would sleep, 169 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,960 like I could feel it. And what I loved about the face 170 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,960 taping genuinely was I felt like it did help me repattern my 171 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,760 facial expression while I was sleeping. 172 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Like it helped to hold it in place and soften it that now I 173 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,799 don't use them all the time but I feel like it helped me be 174 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:38,480 aware of what I was doing and soften that whole like throwing 175 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,640 while I'm sleeping. So it like retrained your facial 176 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,760 expression? I felt like it did. 177 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,760 For me, yeah. Yeah. 178 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Have you tried it? No, it's one thing I've never 179 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,560 ever tried and it's very popular right now. 180 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:52,520 Like in all forms. Yeah, and like I said, I don't 181 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,840 know too much about the different types of face taping, 182 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,960 but I'm not opposed to it. I'm just already doing so much 183 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,400 like I, I do a version of this. Also, it may not be with 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,040 product. I mean, I do my skin care 185 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,480 routine with our products, but then I'm it's absurd. 186 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Like I put earplugs in, I put a nose strip on to open my 187 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,080 nostrils. I mouth tape. 188 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,720 Can you tell a difference with a nose strip? 189 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Oh yeah, I'm curious about that. Like. 190 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,000 Better than mouth tape. I wake up feeling so rested, so 191 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,840 oxygenated and it's not breathe right. 192 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,400 It's like an off brand and I feel like it's not as there's 193 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,160 not as much of A stickiness to it. 194 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Like the Breathe Right strips are too sticky and like leave 195 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 too much residue, but these feel a little bit more gentle and I 196 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,760 love that. I've seen them, I've been 197 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,560 curious. I just had my husband start 198 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:42,840 doing it because he snores and it's like night and day helping, 199 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:44,680 yeah. Incredible. 200 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,320 So it's like that one, it's like it's making a difference in how 201 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,960 you feel and your health. It's like. 202 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 It's right. What does your current skin care 203 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,040 routine look like? Skinmalism, I love keeping it 204 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,520 simple, but even my husband is like go to your 47 steps skin 205 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,320 care routine, even though it's definitely far from that. 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,880 But in the morning facial dry brushing always I noticed such a 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,480 difference. I have a little milia that will 208 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,880 come up on my forehead and when I'm consistent with facial dry 209 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,040 brushing, it's they're totally smooth and clear. 210 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,080 And when I get out of that habit, they always come back. 211 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,000 So that's something I'm getting back into and being very 212 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,080 consistent with. And then I've been habit 213 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,800 stacking my skin care routine. So while I'm facial dry 214 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,000 brushing, I'll rebound at the same time. 215 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,040 I'm actually loving that. I love waking up to that and. 216 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,720 That's actually a great combo. Yeah, all the lymph stuff at the 217 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,720 same time. And then after dry brushing, all 218 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,640 about layering and all the misting right now. 219 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,120 So I layer everything, spray and clarifying this like I douse my 220 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,960 skin in them and then I massage it in like it was like a serum 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,680 or a balm or something. And then clarifying mist and 222 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:54,440 antioxidant balm in the morning. And then my little quick wash. 223 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,120 I do a quick wash in the morning. 224 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,680 I leave the elongated facial massage for the evening and then 225 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:04,640 before bed, cleansing oil of course, then more misting and 226 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,280 then everything balm. And then I'll keep my facial 227 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,440 cuing or my gouache of stone on my night stand. 228 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:14,120 And then I'll get into bed and do my full facial massage with 229 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,560 the tool while I'm horizontal under my covers and then red 230 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:19,360 light before I go to sleep. Nice. 231 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,960 OK, so you're doing when you do your full massage, is that with 232 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,320 your fingers or with the gouache? 233 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,680 Stone with the gouache stone. OK, that's where I'm like doing 234 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,600 the back of the neck, like I'm focusing on all the sides, like 235 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,840 the fine line, little wrinkly eraser side of the stone, where 236 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,840 in the morning I'm more like just trying to wake up, lymph 237 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,000 flow, get movement going. Then at night I'm doing more 238 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,080 like a targeted flow. So being in Texas in a new 239 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,560 climate, have you changed your skin care routine at all? 240 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,960 A little bit. Texas is so cold. 241 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,000 So I think that's why I'm definitely doubling up on the 242 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,160 mist with Everything spray and the clarifying mist. 243 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,040 And like that's like a whole massage in and of itself, 244 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,920 applying those products and then at night adding in the 245 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Everything balm. That's actually a new one for 246 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,520 me. I've been on a plumping cream 247 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 kick for years. And then I think with the colder 248 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,400 temperatures and just wanting to simplify my routine, it's just 249 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,080 cleanse, mist, Everything balm, and that is so moisturizing. 250 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Doug wants some liver smoothies. Drink our smoothies before 251 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,480 before the farm dog does. Cheers. 252 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Cheers. When's the last time you had one 253 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,280 of these? Amazing. 254 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Do you make them at home ever? I have frozen liver cubes in my 255 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,600 freezer. Couldn't tell you the last time 256 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,600 I made my milk. I put a lot of liver in this 257 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,560 one. Taste it. 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:42,600 A liver smoothie, milk moustache, it's great. 259 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Yeah, I'm actually surprised. I thought I'd be able to taste 260 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,360 it a lot more now there's quite a bit in here because I haven't 261 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,640 had it in a while. So there's I felt like what mine 262 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,800 tasted. Wanted to cram it in. 263 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,360 I can taste the liver honestly in mind, but if I know it's good 264 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,320 for me, I don't. Mind yeah I only taste it as an 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,720 after taste. And it's so creamy, you know, 266 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,880 it's so good. What else do you put in these 267 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,440 again? Berries, mint, honey, raw milk. 268 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,880 That's it. Wow, that's it. 269 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,080 OK, Bethany, what's yours? I'm kind of embarrassed to 270 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,480 follow you because you had such a great answer in your skin care 271 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,600 routine is amazing and mine is not quite as in depth. 272 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,000 I thought mine was so simple. No, Well, it is. 273 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,800 I think it is simple, but just with you know, I'm not doing 274 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,400 extensive guacha or anything like that. 275 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,960 And I used to do facial dry brushing. 276 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,080 I love facial dry brushing. I've kind of forgotten about it. 277 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,080 So I'm glad you said that because I that is something that 278 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,000 I used to really love doing in the morning and I literally have 279 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,160 forgotten about it. Like I don't, I don't even think 280 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,240 I own a facial dry brush right now. 281 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,840 And we have them at primarily pure. 282 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,440 So Ally, next time you go to the warehouse, can you please grab 283 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,400 me one? Get 2 for her because doing 2 at 284 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,760 a time has changed the game. Because just because it takes 285 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,760 less time or. It just, like, feels better. 286 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,480 It feels all of the above. Yeah. 287 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Like I love the feeling of both at the same time. 288 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640 I'm working them together and you're done in half the time. 289 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Yeah. No, that's good. 290 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,880 OK. And I'm not a mother to three 291 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,360 young children. You have that going on. 292 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,880 So I can do an extensive facial massage routine and so doing 2 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,360 at a time will be good. For me it's great yes, I love 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,000 that and it does make such a difference. 295 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,520 It's such a nice like gentle exfoliant and way to wake the 296 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 skin up in the morning yeah, I'm gonna start that again. 297 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,040 But right now I just kind of splash water on my face and then 298 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,800 while I think the thing that we have in common is lots of 299 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:44,600 misting slash like water and and then the oil based products in 300 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 synergy. That's where the magic happens 301 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,680 yes, the the combination of the oil and the water really like 302 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,080 drive the moisture and the hydration deep into the skin and 303 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,720 it just it hydrates the skin really well. 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,640 It helps the products penetrate into the skin better. 305 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,840 So I'm all about that. I kind of splash my skin with 306 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,840 water first thing and then I will use one of our serums or 307 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,400 even our oil cleanser. Like I'll put that on and kind 308 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,680 of like leave it. There, my sister's been doing 309 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,520 that. She was like. 310 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,360 I mean, there's no reason not to. 311 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,280 That's what she's been. It was formulated as a cleansing 312 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,960 oil, but it can act as a serum also. 313 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,840 And I don't know, I've just been loving that lately. 314 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,960 Cool. And so it's really like light 315 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,960 feeling. It's just really nice. 316 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,040 And it, yeah, it absorbs well, so you can layer makeup on top 317 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,800 easily. But that's kind of what I do in 318 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,360 the morning. And then I'll put the complexion 319 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,160 mist on. I love the clarifying mist. 320 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,120 That's my favorite. Yes. 321 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,240 So I'll do that on top top. And then that's kind of all I do 322 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,920 in the morning. If I sweat in the morning, like 323 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,640 if I go in the sauna, then I'll go in the shower after and I'll 324 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,880 like do a light cleanse with our baby bar. 325 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,520 And then I might use some toner like some of our everything 326 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,840 spray. I spray it onto a cotton round 327 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,840 and then apply it that way. And then I'll do the same stuff, 328 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,960 the cleansing oil, but leave it on and then the clarifying mist. 329 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,120 And then in the evening I will do the oil cleansing method. 330 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,400 And then I will do everything spray on a cotton pad as a toner 331 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,080 and then I'll do for the moisturizer. 332 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,400 This is where I kind of mix it up. 333 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,120 So I'll do sometimes the plumping serum and then finish 334 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,480 it with mist of complexion mist. Sometimes I'll do plumping serum 335 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,040 like and then complexion mist and then baby bomb and then more 336 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,280 complexion mist. Yes, the sand witching is so 337 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360 yeah. Yeah, I can't say it enough. 338 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Just like going back and forth between the misting and the oil, 339 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,560 the misting and the oil. And then facial cupping is my 340 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,080 favorite form, a facial massage. So I'll do some stuff with my 341 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,400 hands first. Like I'll just like a lot of 342 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,440 like lifting stuff. I don't know what you would say 343 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,880 about my techniques because I did not learn them anywhere, but 344 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,280 it's just kind of like a lot of like moving the skin upwards, 345 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,280 like along the jawline and the cheeks in the forehead. 346 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,280 That's where it feels really good. 347 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,760 I just like move it up and then I'll kind of do this lightly in 348 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,360 the neck to like drain a little bit. 349 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,599 Perfect. That's the beauty facial massage 350 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,000 is. It's truly so intuitive and it 351 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,480 is. It's like tuning in. 352 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,440 And that's why like yes, to protocols, there's a time and a 353 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,359 place, but more so it's like presence and like, where am I 354 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,760 feeling that tension and like spending more time there? 355 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Where is there congestion and knowing at least like these are 356 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,760 the major lymphatic highways that just needs that light 357 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,040 pressure to nudge that drainage down. 358 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:28,400 Yeah, I feel like I learned enough from you to kind of go 359 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,280 rogue a little bit. And I may not follow. 360 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,840 I like exact methodologies, but yeah, I know the basics. 361 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,720 I know enough all you need. And then like ears, I like to 362 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,720 like really work my ears. My gosh, I. 363 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,160 Like, I don't know the science behind that, but it does 364 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,960 something. No, it's like a vagus nerve 365 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,640 technique. It's like, yes, it's helping to 366 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,440 engage your parasympathetic. Okay, yeah, good. 367 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,840 I do an ear massage in all of my facials. 368 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Yeah, I remember that. Also, I love so good that you're 369 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,680 calling them complexion myths, because that's what we. 370 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Stalled it. We don't call it that anymore. 371 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,040 That's a throwback. Another facial mist. 372 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,120 Yeah, my gosh. I mean, same, same, but yeah. 373 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Yeah, still complexion missed in my mind. 374 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,080 Yeah. OK. 375 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,040 And then I'll do facial cupping. Do you ever do facial cupping 376 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,640 anymore or? Yeah. 377 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,480 No, no. No, I'll, I'll alternate. 378 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,200 Sometimes they'll do both. I don't have kids right now, so 379 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,360 I don't have time. Yeah. 380 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,640 Well, I just it just the way it tugs at your skin and I don't 381 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,840 mean that like I know that can sound bad. 382 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Like we don't want to tug at the skin too much, especially when 383 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,800 we don't have product on like that. 384 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,160 I don't want that. But when your skin is slippery 385 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,200 from, you know, these amazing, like, oils and creams and 386 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,400 serums, yeah, you can you can tug at it a little bit and it'll 387 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,440 really break up tension. And it feels so nice. 388 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,280 And I also feel like that helps the product to further absorb 389 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,440 death because. And why does that happen? 390 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,000 You probably know. Well, it's just supporting that 391 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,080 absorption like you're, it's like if you just put something 392 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,480 on and then just leave it like this is really just helping to 393 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,320 press and push it into the skin and help just receive. 394 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,280 It and go into deeper layers. Yeah. 395 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,960 And it's just it. It's so good for beasting 396 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,440 circulation. Yeah, you're really enhancing 397 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,040 the overall health and optimizing the skin's functions. 398 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,040 And part of that is to receive the nutrients being applied. 399 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,000 And so when the skin is in a healthier state, it's just more 400 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,520 able to receive all that goodness to. 401 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,280 Yeah, that's a great routine, Bethany. 402 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,160 Yeah, I mean it's, it's not terrible. 403 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,640 And then I, I also mix in testing products because we're 404 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,000 working on developing so many products right now. 405 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,120 So a lot of times I'm using products that haven't been 406 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:39,960 released yet and kind of experimenting with those, so. 407 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,880 Totally. Every every day. 408 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,640 Every night I'm just kind of like, OK, what am I? 409 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,120 What am I trying right now? What am I going to use? 410 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,120 And in combination with what other things? 411 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,320 But I think that's the beauty of it too, is like that ebbing and 412 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,720 that flowing, which is something I'm really into right now is 413 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,360 like a ritual menu or like a skin care menu. 414 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,320 And it's like knowing all the skin care steps, products, 415 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,840 tools, like all the things that work that you have and look 416 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,920 forward to doing. But like it's not like we have 417 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,080 to do them all every morning and every night. 418 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,240 It's like what? It's like a little tool kit. 419 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Like what do I have today? How's my skin feeling today? 420 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,840 How am I feeling today? Is it going to be a quick spritz 421 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,520 and like just a serum or am I needing a little bit of a long? 422 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,120 Younger, more involved, routine for my sense of, well-being, a 423 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:24,120 nervous system. I love that. 424 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:25,880 So I love that you. You're already doing that so 425 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,480 intuitively. What did you call it? 426 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,160 A what menu? A ritual Ritual menu. 427 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,600 I love that. OK, I did a poll on Instagram 428 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,600 and I asked people what they wanted us to talk about. 429 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,640 And the number one thing, this probably won't come as a 430 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,040 surprise to you. The number one thing people 431 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,760 wanted to hear from us on was makeup. 432 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,720 They wanted to know what makeup we use. 433 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,360 You don't wear makeup often, but do you have any favorite makeup 434 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:52,080 brands? I do feel like this is an area 435 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,800 where I let down our community because I'm not. 436 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,960 I used to love makeup. I wrote a blog for us years ago 437 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,920 on how I used to wear so much makeup. 438 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,320 I saw a picture of you in high school. 439 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,200 You Your eyeliner was like a centimeter thick around your. 440 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,360 Head had somebody ask me if I had gotten a black eye. 441 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,680 It was my smoky eye that I spent all morning perfecting. 442 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,040 Are you just horrified? Yeah, I think I, I think I 443 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,080 pivoted probably from makeup at that point. 444 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Oh my gosh. But I think too, skin care has 445 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,160 been such a focus for so long. It's not that I don't love 446 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,080 makeup. I think I've just been so 447 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,040 focused on my skin health that now I feel really confident and 448 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,720 comfortable just going bare faced. 449 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,120 But I won't go a day without an eyelash curler. 450 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800 I think that if I was stranded on a desert island and I could 451 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,440 take one thing, it'd be my eyelash curler because it just 452 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,960 immediately opens up my eyes. And even without mascara, I feel 453 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,240 like it makes such a difference. I feel like. 454 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,920 I'm a first grader. When I try to do it like I'm not 455 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,200 good at it. I don't know how I like miss 456 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,520 half of my eyelashes half the time. 457 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,400 It like it's a challenge for me to do it properly. 458 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Maybe your eyelash curler that you have. 459 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,680 I mean, it might be maybe I ordered it off Amazon and I'll 460 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760 help you. I've never even tried any other 461 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,360 brands. Yeah, OK. 462 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,880 Like it's really hard. I will say I think I have, I'm 463 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,160 probably going to misprint on it. 464 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,640 Air Perez Airpresz, it's AI think it's a they're from 465 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Australia, but I also in aesthetician school, we had to 466 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,880 like learn full face makeup application. 467 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600 So I was like doing them on people. 468 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,600 So I've gotten really comfortable with it, but I would 469 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,200 love to help you learn it because night and day difference 470 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,320 and then a little bit of mascara and I have just kind of stuck 471 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,040 with Ilyas Volumizing mascara for years. 472 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,880 I will say I actually also really love Living Libations 473 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,440 mascara and a brown brow gel. They have like peptides or 474 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,880 something in them that actually helps support because I'm like, 475 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,160 if I can wear makeup and it's like also benefiting my skin, my 476 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,560 lashes, my brows, like that's my kind of makeup. 477 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Yeah. And then Ilia too, I'll just 478 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,720 kind of stick with their clear brow gel sometimes maybe a 479 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,400 little highlighter. And if I'm feeling fancy, I'll 480 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,320 do their liquid eyeshadow. OK. 481 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,080 And then I keep our lip balms on hand always. 482 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,960 I that's I love a bear like, like moisturized lip. 483 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,280 I think that's my favorite. Yeah. 484 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,320 I'll use our tinted lip balm. But I think probably I'm not 485 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,960 used to myself and makeup that it's still a little bit hard for 486 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,520 me. Yeah. 487 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,600 So I'm, I know you and I've been talking about doing an updated 488 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000 makeup roundup on our blog because this is such a popular 489 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,680 question and there's so many great brands that are newer in 490 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,040 this space and have, you know, not been around for too long. 491 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,760 That'd be great to like learn about and experience what is 492 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,680 your because even we did a photo shoot and you brought all of 493 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,680 your own makeup for the makeup artist to use. 494 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,440 And I was like, what is in your makeup bag? 495 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,000 I want to know what's in your makeup bag. 496 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,240 OK, well, I think makeup is fun, but I will say I'm not an expert 497 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,760 in makeup by any means. So I've just kind of randomly 498 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,200 collected things that I think kind of like work OK on me, but 499 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,200 I don't I'm not an expert in most days now what I wear is, I 500 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,840 don't know if I'm allowed to say this yet, but I'm going to say 501 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,000 it. Our tinted SPF that's launching 502 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,560 this summer. It's so good. 503 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,440 It's so good. I love it so that's my like 504 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,120 quote makeup. Most days it's just tinted SPF 505 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,080 and then. On that so quick. 506 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,000 Yeah. I saw Grace at the HQ when we 507 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600 were first starting to formulate these and I was like, Grace, 508 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,400 your skin looks insane. What are you? 509 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,760 What are you wearing? What are you doing? 510 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,800 She said our tinted SPF. No way. 511 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,680 Yeah, that's amazing. It's really good. 512 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,280 It's really good. The friends that I've given 513 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,040 samples to, they have since run out and have been hounding me 514 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,600 for more. And I'm like, guys, I don't have 515 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,480 enough myself. Like I'm sorry, I need to store 516 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,600 what I have until we launch this product because I'm not running 517 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,240 out of this stuff. It's so good. 518 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,960 So I wear that most days. And then so your eyelash curler 519 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,720 is my eyebrow pencil. So that is like the thing that 520 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,840 I, I, I need to wear that because I over plucked my 521 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,400 eyebrows in high school, like most of us early 2000s children. 522 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,480 Did you know people who grew up in the 90s, early 2000s And 523 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,120 unfortunately they just never grew back in the same. 524 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:11,560 So I do pencil in my eyebrows every day and I that's the only 525 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,520 product that I don't, I don't have a natural version of like 526 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,880 it's a, it's anaesthesia is what I use and it's not a natural 527 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,760 brand. And gestural defect and being 528 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,320 that. Lasted So what I like about that 529 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,760 one is it's not like a pencil it's like AI mean is a pencil, 530 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,080 but it's like A twist up and it kind of it's like a pencil Y 531 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,760 kind of thing yeah and I've tried a natural pencil at one 532 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,640 point and I didn't feel like it did the did the trick and in my 533 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,760 mind that is like it covers such a small surface area yeah of the 534 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,000 skin and of the body that I'm kind of OK with it. 535 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,840 Is it ideal? No, but I know I'm not perfect. 536 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,960 I'm never going to be perfect and it's like 1 little thing. 537 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,680 That's how you do all the other things, support health and all 538 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,560 the other products. That we're swapping, I mean, 539 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,880 it's like a few centimeters of the body. 540 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,920 Did you do microblading? I did, yeah. 541 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,840 Are you is that was that not a? Thing, you know, it's 542 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,200 interesting. I did that two years ago, and I 543 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,360 remember saying asking like, how long is it going to last? 544 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,440 And she kind of said, well, for some people it can last like up 545 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,560 to three years. Some people it's more like a 546 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,680 year and a half, two years. It just depends on like, how 547 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440 oily your skin is and the products you're using. 548 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,160 Like if you're using a lot of oils on your skin, it's not 549 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,520 going to last as long. So I feel like it lasted like a 550 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,960 year for me. Yeah. 551 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520 And I'm just like, I don't know. I don't know if I want to keep 552 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,320 doing that. That's another thing, like, I, I 553 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,640 try to avoid toxins. Why am I, like, putting dye into 554 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,200 my eyebrows? Even though it was nice. 555 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,680 It was really nice. I liked it. 556 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,880 Yeah. So it's like microblading or the 557 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,200 eyebrow pencil? Yeah. 558 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,520 You know, exactly. Yeah. 559 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,640 Yeah, so those are like my everyday things, the tinted SPF 560 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840 and the eyebrow pencil. And then if I'm getting my 561 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840 makeup done, if I'm, or if I'm doing my makeup myself, my 562 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,920 husband and I are going out on a date, I'll do my makeup. 563 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,360 Or if I'm recording a podcast, I have someone do my makeup. 564 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,040 And in that case, I supply everything. 565 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,560 And it's kind of a mix of I have Ilia Foundation that I mix with 566 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,640 a foundation from crunchy and that's what I use as foundation. 567 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,800 And then I have like a did. How did you come up with that 568 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,560 little convo? I, I don't know, I just, I'm 569 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,080 just playing around. I'm like, this one's a little 570 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,240 too dark. This one's a little too. 571 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Light. I'm just gonna mix that up. 572 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Amazing. This one's a little too like 573 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,880 liquidy of a consistency. This one's a little too firm. 574 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,760 Fun. Yeah, I just kind of playing 575 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,120 around. Yeah, exactly. 576 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,600 And then a powder, like a translucent powder from crunchy 577 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,200 on top of that to kind of set it. 578 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,200 And then OG is a good brand OGEE. 579 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,440 Their stuff's like probably the cleanest that I've seen. 580 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,120 And they have complexion sticks that I don't know how to use 581 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,520 personally, but if I'm having someone do my makeup, they'll 582 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,640 use the sticks and so they're doing some of that. 583 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,720 Is that like the contour? Yeah, it's. 584 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Not like crazy, like I don't, you know, I don't want anything 585 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,800 like too crazy. But they're you know, they're 586 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,680 putting some like bronze are here and some blush wherever I 587 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,520 don't know exactly what they do and it comes out. 588 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,760 I like how it looks when it comes out. 589 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,480 Amazing. So. 590 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,920 Yeah, I feel like you have such a beautiful, natural look 591 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,600 sometimes. Maybe I'm I'm less likely to 592 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640 wear a full face of makeup because I feel like it just 593 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,280 settles into all the lines. And like, I feel like when you 594 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760 do your full face, it just like actually is smooth and looks 595 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,360 hydrated and. Oh, thanks. 596 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,760 I need your Rex. I feel like, I mean, I think 597 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,200 you're just being hard on yourself because you don't wear 598 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480 makeup often, but I've seen you with a full face of makeup and 599 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,920 you look great. Thank you. 600 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280 Yeah. But I will say it too, like 601 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,720 hydrating with our, I'm not gonna say complexion mist, our 602 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,880 facial mist, like even after putting makeup on, I feel like 603 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,440 helps to piss off in it. Yeah. 604 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,600 And make it to look more like Dewey and natural. 605 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Yes. So I do. 606 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040 I do like that also. And I feel like I'm forgetting 607 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,840 something. Oh, yeah. 608 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,080 I have a Ilia eyeshadow palette, which I never use unless I'm 609 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,120 having someone do my makeup. And then the Ilia mascara I use 610 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,840 also. Yeah. 611 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,440 I think that's it. Perfect. 612 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,680 Yeah. I love it. 613 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840 That's the extent of our makeup knowledge, people. 614 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,400 So I hope you're. It is. 615 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 I hope you're satisfied. I used to do makeup applications 616 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,640 for brides like that feels like another lifetime. 617 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,800 You did and now I. Feel a different life. 618 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,880 I have lived many different life. 619 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400 This one's my favorite. OK, this kind of fits in with 620 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160 what we're talking about, but someone asked can you explain 621 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,440 how to apply your products and then apply makeup so it's not 622 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,200 greasy. My answer for that is, and I 623 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240 think they're asking because our products are oil based, most of 624 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800 our products are oil based. So how do you like apply oil on 625 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560 your face and then apply makeup without it being just feeling 626 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,880 too oily? And I think that that a lot of 627 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,280 times people aren't using the oil with with the facial mist. 628 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,680 Agree. So yeah, that kind of eliminates 629 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,280 that issue. So if you're using and you can 630 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,240 do a facial mist 1st and then apply the serum, I wouldn't 631 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,800 necessarily apply like a serum and then a cream in the morning 632 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,640 before makeup. Like, I think that's too much, 633 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,400 but I think you could apply complexion mist or facial mist 634 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,560 and then a serum and then more facial mist and that's, and then 635 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,440 do a little bit of massage too. Yes. 636 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,440 And that's gonna really help the product to absorb. 637 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400 And then when you apply makeup, it's gonna go on really nicely. 638 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840 Yeah, verbatim, exactly what I would say. 639 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,320 And I think too, I just wanna touch on that so quick, the 640 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,000 whole oil and water thing, because especially with people 641 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,440 are new to tallow because that is such a rich animal based fat, 642 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,240 such a nourishing oil for the skin. 643 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,240 If you're using a Taliban and not using a water based product 644 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000 like the facial mist for hydration, I really don't think 645 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,640 you're going to get the results you're expecting. 646 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,240 And I think that can be maybe a hindrance or hesitation for 647 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,640 people. Like I tried tallow, but then 648 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000 whatever. So if you're new to tallow, I've 649 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,080 tried tallow but haven't added in the water based hydration in 650 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880 conjunction with that, that could be the missing link to 651 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,840 really getting the full benefit from the Talibans. 652 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,720 So I think getting in the mess and it takes like 3 seconds, 653 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,280 it's a whole like aromatherapy experience. 654 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,360 You're just like enveloped in the aroma, the hydration, it's 655 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,320 so good. Yeah, I'm glad you said that. 656 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520 That's really important. And I don't think that we talk 657 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,600 about that enough as a brand. I think like people need that, 658 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,360 like constant reminders in education. 659 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,840 So that's one thing that I've been meaning to to encourage us 660 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,080 in lately is like we need to remind people they need to use 661 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,920 the oil in the water. Because the way the skin's even 662 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,600 structured and it's functions, it creates its own lipid 663 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,560 barrier, it has its own natural oil production and water. 664 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,160 So we're wanting to protect from that water loss in the skin and 665 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,600 like, replenishing and protecting the lipid barrier. 666 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,680 So even if we look at how the skin is made, it has both water 667 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,360 and oil. So when we're only doing one, 668 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,560 we're actually creating this disruption of this harmonious 669 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,320 ecosystem that needs both. Yeah. 670 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,040 So it just makes sense. And traditionally we have not 671 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,120 formulated products that have both oil and water because that 672 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,880 usually requires A harsh preservative which we're not 673 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,960 interested in using. But we are, we have been working 674 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,480 on formulating some oil and water based products. 675 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440 So more to come on that. We wouldn't release anything 676 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,400 unless it was super safe and non-toxic and we are trying to 677 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,680 find ways to do that. Yeah. 678 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,720 And I think even over like the last decade, there's more 679 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000 innovation and more discoveries and how to make that. 680 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Yeah. Available people also want to 681 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,960 know our thoughts on micro needling and dermaplaning. 682 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,000 What do you? Think I want to hear your 683 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,160 thoughts first. OK. 684 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,360 I think we have opposite experiences. 685 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,240 So I think you've dermaplaned. Yeah, I have not dermaplaned. 686 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,560 I don't think you've micro needled. 687 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440 No, and I have micro needled fun. 688 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,240 So I will let you speak to dermaplaning. 689 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,680 I haven't tried it, not because I'm opposed to it, but I just 690 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,400 haven't tried it. I just have not gotten around to 691 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,000 it. I would like to try it, but I 692 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,840 haven't. I've tried micro needling and 693 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:10,440 I've done it probably 3 or 4 times over the course of the 694 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,400 last couple of years and that was more of like a like a series 695 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,000 even though I didn't do them very close together. 696 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,840 It was kind of spread out over the course of several years. 697 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,240 But I so I don't think it's inherently bad. 698 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,720 I do think it can be bad and I think it's very important to 699 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,520 find the right person and and to not go too deep into the skin is 700 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,640 very, very important. I would never do any kind of 701 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,560 radio frequency micro micro needling because that can really 702 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,440 disrupt the tissue and even melt away facial fat in some cases, 703 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520 which we don't want. It can kind of cause the tissues 704 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,440 to like fuse together in an unnatural way. 705 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640 And a lot of plastic surgeons are finding now that when they 706 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,840 are opening people up to do procedures and facelift that 707 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 there are tissues people who've had a lot of like radio 708 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,080 frequency, any radio frequency treatment, they're like their 709 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,680 muscles and their fat and the layers of skin are just like 710 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,000 have this like sticky kind of glued together like consistency. 711 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,239 And so I. Just think of like bound fascia 712 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,639 like it's just like stuck and bound in. 713 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,760 Not in a movement, yeah. Yeah. 714 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,719 So I think it it can be harmful and like do some unnecessary 715 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,880 damage to the skin if you're doing that sort of thing. 716 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,679 What were your results like? Or what was my gosh, your 717 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,760 intention in trying it? I think just. 718 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,960 See. Just like smoothing and what's 719 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,639 the melasma? Hyperfigmentation was a concern, 720 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,920 which I actually, we have an episode coming out with a 721 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,920 heliotherapist. I actually think what was more 722 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,080 instrumental in helping with my hyper pigmentation, which it has 723 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,560 like gotten so much better, Yeah. 724 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,200 Is circadian rhythm stuff like circadian biology stuff like not 725 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,800 wearing sunglasses. Yeah. 726 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:03,400 Oh my gosh. Oh, this is. 727 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,720 Fascinating. Like yeah, it's really that was 728 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,720 the thing that cuz I would it would help the microneedling 729 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,400 would help with that, but then it would come back. 730 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,640 And so since I stopped wearing sunglasses, I used to always get 731 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,760 it above my lip. Yeah. 732 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,720 And that doesn't happen anymore. And So what sunglasses do, 733 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,280 people? This may be like, we may lose 734 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,240 people talking about this. This seems like kind of crazy, 735 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,760 but when you wear sunglasses, you're getting the light in an 736 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040 unbalanced spectrum. And So what we take in through 737 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,720 the eyes, like it signals the skin in different ways. 738 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,560 And so you're just messing with the balance of rays coming in 739 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,960 through the sun when you're using the barrier of sunglasses. 740 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,760 So yeah, anyways, I feel like that that was like the biggest 741 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,080 thing with hyperpigmentation. That's crazy too because I feel 742 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,520 like often sun is like pinned as the culprit for 743 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,320 hyperpigmentation and the sun could be what actually heals 744 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040 hyperpigmentation. Yeah, I wonder how much of that 745 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,840 is because of, because it can be the culprit if you are not 746 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,280 taking in sunlight in a natural way. 747 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,840 So like. And at the right time. 748 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,160 Yeah, exactly. And if you're not getting 749 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,040 morning sunlight, which has protective effects against 750 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,800 midday sunlight, that's also going to cause issues. 751 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,760 Yeah. So yeah, the circadian stuff is 752 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,280 fascinating. We have an episode coming out 753 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,200 soon with Zaid Dehajj that people can listen to For more 754 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,760 information on that. But yeah, that was that was 755 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,040 crucial for the for the hyperpigmentation, I think. 756 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,360 But I do think the microneedling helped with that for sure. 757 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,120 Like temporary results were, I mean, were awesome. 758 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:44,040 And I think that So what I did also was micro needling with 759 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,120 exosomes and you can do it with PRP also. 760 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,240 I think that some type of a growth factor is important when 761 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,200 you're getting a micro needling treatment to help with barrier 762 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,560 and skin repair, something to kind of help regenerate and and 763 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,080 heal afterwards. Otherwise you're just kind of 764 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,600 relying on your body's own defenses to heal and regenerate. 765 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,720 And I think it's helpful to have like a growth factor of some 766 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,240 sort just to kind of support healing. 767 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:12,280 And another thing, I don't think you should do it if you are 768 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,200 sick, like if you are, I mean, if you actually are sick, like 769 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,720 have a cold or something like that, you shouldn't do it 770 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,880 because it's going to, your body's already going to be run 771 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,240 down from that. And then when you micro needle 772 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,440 and then your body's having to like repair the skin, but also 773 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,840 it's fighting off this sickness. But if you also have some kind 774 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,760 of like chronic lingering sickness and you're doing these 775 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160 treatments, I, that's where I think that it can kind of 776 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,840 deplete the skin and deplete the body quite a bit. 777 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,440 So I think you should be like healthy and I think you should 778 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,320 be mindful of like eating really well after and before you go 779 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,360 into one of these treatments, like dial in your sleep before 780 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,440 and after all of that stuff. So good. 781 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040 I think it needs to be taken a little bit more seriously than 782 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,000 it is, but I do. I had a positive experience with 783 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,840 it and I will probably keep doing it maybe once or twice, 784 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,120 once or twice. A year so did your technician 785 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,360 suggest like a certain number of treatments in a certain like 786 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,920 allotted amount of time or like to see the results yeah so it's 787 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,160 like is it like an ongoing forever sort of thing or is it 788 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,600 like in six sessions or whatever yeah you'll. 789 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,520 See the shift? I think it varies a little bit 790 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,400 from person to person, but what what I was told is kind of like 791 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,200 3 or 4 sessions ideally like within a month of one another. 792 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200 I wasn't able to do that. So it was more spread out and 793 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,560 then like less as time goes on, Yeah. 794 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,880 Yeah, and I think that's such a good point too. 795 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040 It's like not everything is black and white. 796 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,840 There's a lot of nuance, I think too. 797 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,000 So even like, no, I'm not like stoked on necessarily how it 798 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,560 works of like almost in a way like creating these micro 799 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,040 injuries in the skin to like pull from the dermal reserves of 800 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560 her collagen and reparative processes. 801 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,680 But if there's like a very specific goal that's maybe 802 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960 you've been struggling with for a long time, like melasma, and 803 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,720 it's like, OK, I know that within this number of sessions 804 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,160 and this amount of time, like I'm going to commit to that. 805 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,480 But they're not making it like an ongoing forever thing. 806 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Like not your go to regular facial treatment. 807 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,160 I don't think that should be like the only thing. 808 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,040 And yeah, and the thing that you're relying on, yeah, I see 809 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,720 it as more of a, a supportive thing. 810 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,960 Yeah. And, and I also think that's 811 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800 where like the growth factor comes in, like not relying on 812 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,680 your own dermal reserves to, to do all that repair on its own, 813 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,120 but like using the health of a exosome or PRP or something like 814 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,120 that. Yeah, I love that. 815 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,320 OK, tell me about dermaplaning. Dermaplaning I've gotten a few 816 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,200 times and I do actually have a tool which as an esthetician I 817 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,080 feel good having a tool, but I I think sometimes these at home 818 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,920 tools can get a little out of hand. 819 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,800 So it makes me nervous to be like dermaplaning is great. 820 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,320 Do it like because it can either either it can either be overdone 821 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:11,320 or done like in in not a. The proper context, I think so I 822 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,560 like dermaplaning in a professional setting. 823 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,000 And I think similarly, like maybe not as like a regular type 824 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,960 of treatment, but like if you have a big event or an occasion 825 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,360 where you're going to be wearing a full face of makeup, like a 826 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,640 wedding, the effects are so beautiful because it's gently 827 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,640 exfoliating, but then also removing all that vellus hair, 828 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,720 baby hair on the skin. So if you are doing a full face 829 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,440 of makeup, it just sits so much more nicely on the skin and it 830 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,480 does help to just create like a brighter skin tone overall. 831 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,960 So I'm not usually a fan of that like mechanical type of 832 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,360 exfoliation, but I think in certain settings and situations, 833 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,760 it's when I've gotten it done, I'm like, Oh my gosh, my skin 834 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,200 looks so smooth, so glowy. And then in a facial setting, 835 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,360 you're getting all these really beautiful products applied 836 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,960 afterwards. So can also help just like 837 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:06,440 remove any hindrances to that product absorption into the 838 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,080 skin. So are they is it removing just 839 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,880 the hair or is it removing kind of like dead skin cells from the 840 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,440 surface? Yeah, dead skin cells from the 841 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,080 surface as well. Yeah. 842 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,400 And I mean, you could also cut yourself like there's there's do 843 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,240 it in a facial setting similar to you. 844 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,760 It's like know who you're getting it from, like ask 845 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,600 questions, hear about like read reviews, you know, get 846 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,280 referrals. But I think, yeah, generally 847 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960 it's, it's an OK, fine service to get in a facial setting. 848 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,760 Yeah, I don't do it. I've never done it on anybody, 849 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,320 but I've loved the results. But I don't think we need to be 850 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,400 shaving our face like every single day. 851 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,880 Yeah. Have you done it on yourself? 852 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,200 OK. Yeah, so I have a tool, so I'll 853 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,880 do it. Honestly, I kind of forget about 854 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,720 it. So every probably once a season 855 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,800 I'll do it. But I also find similar, like 856 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,000 the post care side of microneedling, there has to be a 857 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,160 really intentional post care for dermaplaning because you are, I 858 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,080 think a little bit more sensitive to the sun if you're 859 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,080 not using proper products or even like treating the skin 860 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,320 properly beforehand. I found even on myself I'll get 861 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,480 little irritation or inflammation. 862 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:17,880 So that's why too. It's like doing it in the right 863 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,840 context in the right scenario is more beneficial. 864 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,880 For sure super important people also want to know about bikini 865 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,320 line skin care. That's so fun. 866 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400 I know what do you do for your bikini line? 867 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,480 I've. Never been asked this question 868 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,920 in my life. Well, I thought it was 869 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,160 interesting because we used to talk about this with our 870 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,600 Everything spray of how, Yeah, you can use it. 871 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,120 You can spray it on your bikini line after shaving to help 872 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,600 prevent ingrown hairs. Yeah. 873 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,960 And I do feel like that with tallow with our Everything bomb 874 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,920 is a great combo for like healing the bikini line if 875 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,000 you're someone who's like shaving. 876 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,600 Yeah, I think too. A little bit of exhalation 877 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,440 beforehand, so dry brushing and our body polishes. 878 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,240 If I'm like doing an everything shower, those two things have to 879 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,240 happen beforehand and then. What is an everything shower? 880 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,080 Reshaving everything. Everything. 881 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,200 It's like the hair masks, everything. 882 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,960 Smooth and clean shaven. Yeah, body Polish. 883 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,120 It's oh, they're, they're glorious. 884 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,760 There is a difference. Like most of my showers are just 885 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,000 rushed. Exactly. 886 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440 OK, Wash my armpits real quick. Yeah, it kind of rinse off and 887 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,480 then I'm out. And then when I do go in for 888 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,560 like a full, OK, washing my hair, yes. 889 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,640 Shaving my legs, shaving my armpits. 890 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,360 Yeah, it's a it's a different ball game. 891 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,600 Like doing the hair mask where like that deep conditioner's 892 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,040 like on for 10 minutes like while I'm shaving. 893 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,280 I've never done that. Oh, it's. 894 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,880 We'll have to talk about. Yeah, we'll. 895 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,640 Talk about hair. But also I was thinking about 896 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,360 this question and how I feel like back in the day, well, like 897 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,200 now, like less is more, right? And so even my razor, I'm back 898 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,720 on the single blade razor. We're back in the day, it was 899 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,320 like the more blades the better, like 5 blades, whatever. 900 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,720 So I think the single blade has made a huge difference. 901 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,000 OK interesting. If you're shaving, I do sugar 902 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,160 ring for my bikini. Line. 903 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,600 What do you think? I love it. 904 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,720 I love. It I haven't done it yet, I'm 905 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,200 thinking about prefer that to waxing. 906 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440 I think though, no, it's. Great, it's great. 907 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,680 I never get ingrown hairs at all. 908 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,920 OK. But I've been thinking about 909 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,000 getting one at at home. Like trying it trying to do it 910 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,440 at home. Good luck, let me know how it 911 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,720 goes. I will. 912 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:22,800 I used. To work up the courage. 913 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,920 In my pre pre early aesthetician days I used to do bikini waxes 914 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680 and Brazilian waxes and I have never had one. 915 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600 Whoa, you. Know I always told my mom I was 916 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,120 like I feel like I should get 1 so I know like what my clients 917 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,840 are experiencing. OK. 918 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,840 What is that like doing that? Because I'm always wondering 919 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,920 like, that's, that's a weird thing to do for someone, right? 920 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,760 Like a bikini line wax. I mean, not a bikini line, but 921 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,280 like a Brazilian. Like that's very, very personal. 922 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,240 It's very intrusive. Yes. 923 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,680 Like what's going through your mind as you're doing that? 924 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,160 Get the hair gone yeah that's it actually true it's just a matter 925 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,120 of fact you're just a matter of fact taking care of business yes 926 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120 especially when you're doing them quite regularly it's just 927 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,800 and it's women to women and they know what they're getting into 928 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,200 for the most part and so and you're. 929 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,080 Probably trying to help them feel comfortable. 930 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,800 Yes, that's the. Are you just talking about 931 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,480 things? Like, I feel like that's what my 932 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,800 girl does when she's sugaring. She's like ranting about stuff. 933 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,400 She's, you know, we're just talking about, like, random 934 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,040 stuff. Yeah. 935 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,160 To get through. Yeah, just trying to get through 936 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680 it. OK. 937 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,480 Hair stuff. What do you use on your hair? 938 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,760 Bethany, I need your hair care routine hair goals right here. 939 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:40,640 Well, OK, I feel like hair care is internal first and foremost. 940 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,800 So eating nourishing foods, eating lots of meat, I think is 941 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,920 really beneficial for growing healthy hair. 942 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,400 Organ meats especially. I do notice a difference when 943 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,800 I'm doing liver consistently, consuming liver consistently. 944 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,840 Do you feel like it helps my hair grow longer and stronger? 945 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,840 And then I was telling you earlier, like we have a 946 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,960 hyperbaric chamber at home. I haven't been able to use it 947 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,640 for a long time now, and I feel like my hair is just not growing 948 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,720 the way I want it to without that. 949 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,800 Because for a while I was using it very consistently. 950 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,400 And I know that's not like a normal thing that people are 951 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,360 gonna go out and do. But if you do have access to it, 952 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,360 there are lots of health Wellness clubs now that have 953 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,840 hyperbaric chambers. I do think those can be really, 954 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,680 really helpful. You notice a difference when you 955 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,360 do it. You don't. 956 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,080 Yeah, big time. Amazing. 957 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,640 Yeah. You know how everyone kind of 958 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,920 has that threshold to where it's like it's hard to grow your hair 959 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,960 beyond a certain point. Yes. 960 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,880 And it's like different for everybody. 961 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,440 And I had that and I feel like hyperbaric oxygen therapy helped 962 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,240 me to like push beyond that threshold. 963 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,240 Amazing. Yeah. 964 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,600 Product wise, OK, I have two brands I like Inner Sense and 965 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,720 Reverie so. Reverie. 966 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:54,640 That's a new one for me, yeah. I've kind of been in touch with 967 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,560 the founder on and off. She's great and their products 968 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,560 are great and they're great for my kids. 969 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,760 I use them. They have this hair milk. 970 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200 It's really nice. It's just like, it's like this 971 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,960 Milky texture and you kind of weave it into your damp hair and 972 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,280 it just. Makes your hair like a leave in 973 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,480 conditioner. Type maybe kind of like that. 974 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,360 Cool. Yeah, yeah. 975 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,560 Are you? Do you do a lot of styling 976 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,920 products? No OK, no nothing. 977 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,360 So I shampoo condition, I use some leave in either like the 978 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,280 inner sense leave in conditioner or the Reverie hair milk. 979 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:33,600 And then every once in a while, Reverie has like a styling cream 980 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,920 kind of thing that I'll kind of like scrunch into my hair after 981 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,560 I curl it, but I don't know if I'm doing it right. 982 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,000 So I don't use it often. But if I want my hair to like 983 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,760 stick, like last time I was in Texas and I curled my hair and I 984 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,120 wanted it to stick and it was humid. 985 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,320 And I kind of like, I don't know, just like tossled that 986 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,440 into my hair after I curled it. And I feel like it helped it to 987 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,680 stick a little bit better. Again, I don't know if I'm even 988 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,840 using that right. So Hillary from Reverie, if 989 00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,880 you're listening, you can tell me. 990 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200 But yeah, no, that's kind of what I do. 991 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,800 And then how do you style your hair I. 992 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,760 Just curl it. OK. 993 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,720 Do you let it air dry and then you curl it or do you blow? 994 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,240 Dry it. No, I blow dry it OK and I 995 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,200 probably only do it like once every week and 1/2 or two weeks, 996 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,520 but I will touch up curl it like if I need to so you. 997 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,200 Wash your hair every week and a half. 998 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,200 Two weeks. And that's why when I do wash 999 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,400 it, it's like the full thing. It's like I'm washing it, I'm 1000 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,400 drying it, I'm curling it. Yeah, that makes sense. 1001 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,360 And then if I need to do touch up curls throughout the week, 1002 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,040 I'll do that, yeah. So are you doing a lot of dry 1003 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,800 shampoo in between or does your? Hair, yeah, I do. 1004 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,840 Dry shampoo or hats? Yes, I love it, hence all the 1005 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,200 hats that I wear. I I need to get on the hat 1006 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,880 train, I think because dry shampoo is almost a daily 1007 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,080 staple. Yeah, honestly, even after my 1008 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,680 hair is clean, I just love like the volume and the texture that 1009 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,360 it. Adds really good that yeah, I 1010 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,200 guess that is the one styling product that you could. 1011 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,520 It's not like supposed to be a styling product, but it does 1012 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,400 kind of work the styling product because it adds so much texture 1013 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,360 and volume. Yeah, yeah, I love it. 1014 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,720 You got me on to inner sense. When I first started at 1015 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:06,120 primarily Pure in 2016, love Inner and I was using them for 1016 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,960 probably like 7 or 8 years and then just to like try something 1017 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,840 new, I was using under Luna, which I also love so much. 1018 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,320 You know them, right? No, just connected yeah, through 1019 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,040 the brand, but they're based in the Pacific Northwest and like 1020 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,240 use like hand harvested herbs, like really beautiful formulas. 1021 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,840 But then sadly, John has like such a sensitive scalp. 1022 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,720 So now we're using, I've been, we've been going back and forth 1023 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:34,720 between like non EO, non essential oil formulas. 1024 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,480 And so now we're back on to inter sense of just using like 1025 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,880 they're very like fragrance free gentle version. 1026 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,920 Yeah, but I love their detox mask and they're hydrating 1027 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,360 masks. I've been doing a lot of like 1028 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,120 hair and scalp masks lately because I feel like I've kind of 1029 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,480 hit that. I feel like my hair hit that 1030 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,080 like plateau of growth. I also didn't get it cut for 1031 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,120 over 2 years so that might have had something to do with it. 1032 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,080 So I just got it trimmed, which works wonders. 1033 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,600 Who knew? But then like really focusing on 1034 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,440 scalp health specifically. And so I've been doing scalp 1035 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,440 guasha as well with a little hair oil, with Castor oil, 1036 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,160 Rosemary, peppermint and like I've got to get on this hair 1037 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,440 game and like support. Yeah. 1038 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,320 Do you feel like it's helping? I think so like when I'm doing 1039 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,480 the hair oil overnight and I'm doing the hair mask or the hair, 1040 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,200 the scalp massage, I feel like even the next day, I feel like 1041 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,000 it just looks healthier and shinier. 1042 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,040 So I think the scalp guasha, I haven't been doing it long 1043 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,800 enough to like really tell, but now that I've just gotten a 1044 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,480 fresh trim, I'm like back on this like focused hair routine. 1045 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,680 Yeah, scalp massage is huge. That's another thing I do. 1046 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,360 I forgot to talk about that, but yeah, I don't do the scalp 1047 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,600 gouache, but I just like every night I just just go at it, just 1048 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,840 massage the crap out of my scalp and it feels amazing. 1049 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,600 How do you feel about micro dealing on the scalp? 1050 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,640 I would do it. I wanna do it. 1051 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,120 Yeah. I just, I don't know, like, I 1052 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,560 don't know. I haven't like sought that out. 1053 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,160 Yeah. But micro needling on the scalp 1054 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,600 with PRP is supposed to do wonders for helping the hair to 1055 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,720 grow and for reversing Grays. Yes. 1056 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,240 And preventing Grays. So I I definitely I want to try 1057 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:17,200 it. Oh my gosh. 1058 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:18,680 OK, maybe I need to look into that too. 1059 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,920 I have a few a few sweet Grays coming through. 1060 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,240 I feel like, yeah, I would do that like once a year if I felt 1061 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,000 like it was helping. Yeah, Oh my gosh. 1062 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,200 Fine. What does your diet look like 1063 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,440 right now and what are some of your go to meals? 1064 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,720 Thank God I'm married. A man who can cook. 1065 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,520 John does so much of the cooking and it's such a blessing. 1066 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,960 I like to bake, he likes to cook. 1067 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,480 And so with it being winter and that colder season, we've been 1068 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,560 really doing a ton of roasts, stews, soups, chilies. 1069 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,480 It's the best. And then I'll bake sourdough and 1070 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,040 we'll just kind of pair that together. 1071 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,000 So pretty simple. Also he's like synced up with my 1072 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,280 cycle, which is so fun. So and I'm like starting my 1073 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,400 cycle. He'll have like a fresh, he like 1074 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,640 keeps ingredients on hand to make chili because that's like 1075 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,400 my winter phase, my like menstrual cycle meal. 1076 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,080 How does he know? Does he have an app that he like 1077 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,400 tracks you on or does he just he track all by himself? 1078 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,720 Oh no, he can tell. OK, He can tell. 1079 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,400 He, he has a nickname for my Ludial phase and he says Luda's 1080 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,760 come to town. I just get so emotional. 1081 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,800 I'm just a little bit more weepy and teary and tender than 1082 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,720 normal. So he's like, oh, it's coming 1083 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,720 soon. So then he's just like prepped 1084 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:32,680 and ready. He's prepared. 1085 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,440 Yeah, that's good though. I did try to hook him up to my 1086 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,200 app where it tracks but haven't really dove into that so much. 1087 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,880 Yeah, I love that. So super. 1088 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,800 Simple. And then for like lunch, working 1089 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,720 from home, I love just doing bowls, like kind of whatever I 1090 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,800 have so like sauteed green sauerkraut. 1091 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,360 You'd be like 10 sardines or salmon or something, beans of 1092 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,160 some kind, like chickpeas or something. 1093 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,920 So just throwing a bunch of stuff into a bowl. 1094 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,880 Yeah. What about you guys? 1095 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,440 Like always, like meat and protein? 1096 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,800 Your pot roast. Recipe actually looks insane. 1097 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,560 It's so. Easy. 1098 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,960 It's so easy. It's very simple. 1099 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,640 It's just pot roast, carrots and onion and potatoes. 1100 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,200 I don't really eat that many carbs anymore. 1101 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,360 So like, my kids will go to town, the potatoes, but I don't 1102 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,320 really eat them. But yeah, I do that a lot. 1103 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,600 We do that a lot similar to you. Like, I don't really cook a ton. 1104 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,800 Jeff does more cooking. Like the joke in our household 1105 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,480 is that if I'm cooking, it's like it's ground beef night. 1106 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,280 Like ground beef and sauerkraut nights. 1107 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,280 Yes, same. That is great. 1108 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,520 I feel like it's all you need. Like you can eat. 1109 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,760 I could eat ground beef. Yes, over and over and over. 1110 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,480 You can do everything like that. Yeah. 1111 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,080 So yeah, kind of a lot of bowls also like in the mornings and 1112 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,000 for lunch I'll do ground beef or Primal Pastures has these 1113 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,320 amazing ground chicken blends, like ground chicken, chorizo, 1114 00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,600 ground chicken, Italian style. Those are amazing. 1115 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,280 So I do a lot of those and mix them with some kind of fermented 1116 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,120 food. Sometimes I'll do just like hot 1117 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,880 sauce and like slice up raw cheese with with the meat. 1118 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,680 Raw cheese. Yeah. 1119 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,560 Yeah. More like ground beef, avocado 1120 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120 and hot sauce, just like simple stuff like that. 1121 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,800 And then for dinner, yeah, we do roasts. 1122 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:24,880 We do always like a protein with maybe like vegetables or 1123 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,120 potatoes or sometimes rice. For the kids, do you tend to 1124 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,480 stick to like the same type of like meat, like veggie side sort 1125 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,960 of thing or do you like mix it up? 1126 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,920 It's mostly just like meat and veggie sides. 1127 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,240 Yeah, but if we go to my in law's house, which we do a few 1128 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:48,040 times a week, my father-in-law cooks more elaborate meals, 1129 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,760 which is great. Like the other night, he made 1130 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,200 fried chicken sandwiches with primal pastures ground chicken 1131 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,800 and like fried them with. He coated them in like arrowroot 1132 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,320 or tapioca or something and then mixed with what is it, Egg? 1133 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,200 Do you mix that with egg when you're like, I don't know. 1134 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,960 Yeah, something. Create that like sticky coating. 1135 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,000 Yeah, and then fried that in tallow. 1136 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,120 Oh my God. And then did like French fries 1137 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,480 fried in tallow. And so yeah, sometimes when I'm 1138 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,000 whenever we eat something more fancy, it's because like, yes, 1139 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,920 our in laws cooked. That's so good. 1140 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,960 That's. Which is fun. 1141 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,280 Yeah, that's how I feel about John. 1142 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,400 He's someone just sauces and like all the flavors and you can 1143 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,200 just like taste it and tell what it needs. 1144 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,160 And I'm like, if I don't follow a recipe exactly, it's like not 1145 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,520 going to come out okay, so. Someone also asked how do you 1146 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,560 maintain a healthy weight eating high fat, high calorie foods? 1147 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,720 So I thought this question was funny because I'm like, OK, so 1148 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,880 the assessment then is that I'm eating high fat, high calorie 1149 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,920 foods, which is kind of true mostly. 1150 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,800 Maybe the high calorie, I don't know. 1151 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,640 Is steak high calorie? I eat a lot of steak and like 1152 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,840 meats and stuff. So I think people think of those 1153 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,360 as high. Calories. 1154 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,360 I like the raw dairies. Yeah, yeah, raw dairy. 1155 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,200 That's true. I forgot about raw dairy and 1156 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,160 high fat. I wouldn't say I eat super high 1157 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,400 fat anymore. I'm not like, I don't avoid fat 1158 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,080 on purpose, but I don't, like, try to eat tons of fat either. 1159 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,000 I focus more on protein. And I think when you fill up 1160 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,640 with protein, you're less hungry for everything else. 1161 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,280 Yeah. So if you make that like the 1162 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,560 main staple of every meal, you're not going to want as many 1163 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,240 carbs. You're not going to want as much 1164 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,720 like pure fat and you're also not going to get fat. 1165 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,320 And then walking, I think like as much as you can walk every 1166 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,560 day. Weight training is great too, 1167 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,720 but I'm not doing a lot of that right now. 1168 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,360 I just like every chance I get. I walk with your weighted vest 1169 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,000 and yes, almost all the time. Not like all the time, but yeah, 1170 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,080 I do use a weighted vest and that's huge as well. 1171 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,000 What about for you? Well, I feel like a lot of those 1172 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,160 like maybe high fat, high calorie foods, they're real 1173 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,080 foods. Yeah. 1174 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,080 So I, I feel like it's like, oh, my body knows what to do with it 1175 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,560 all. It's like my body knows how to 1176 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680 absorb and assimilate and use it. 1177 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,000 And often to like to your point of like if I'm adding in more 1178 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,480 protein, focusing on the protein, it kind of doesn't 1179 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,080 leave much room for other things. 1180 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,120 And so I feel like then when you're eating more of these 1181 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,480 Whole Foods, your palate changes. 1182 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,200 So you're not like craving these like high sugar processed type 1183 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,800 foods. Like, you know, when I gave it 1184 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,680 all up 10 years ago, it's like everything changed for me. 1185 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,000 Like my taste buds shifted and I didn't crave that kind of stuff 1186 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,040 anymore. So I'm yeah, I don't know. 1187 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,560 I don't, Yeah. It's like, I don't even think 1188 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,560 about like what's high calorie, what's high fat? 1189 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,680 I'm just like, this is a real food and it's like it's going to 1190 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,240 support what I needed to support. 1191 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,640 Agreed, I guess, And I will say for anyone that maybe is 1192 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:51,480 struggling with cravings at all, like I we probably changed her 1193 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,200 diets around the same time. And I noticed, like you, my 1194 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,560 cravings did change immediately. But I still had some cravings 1195 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,080 like I still do. I still have them now. 1196 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,840 They've lessened like over the years, but it's been a very 1197 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,400 gradual thing. Like there was an immediate 1198 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,400 difference. Yeah. 1199 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,080 But I would still crave like, and, you know, healthy versions 1200 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,960 of treats. Yes, I would still crave like, 1201 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,160 I, I would put down, you know, 3, like paleo brownies easily. 1202 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,160 Oh, I have like 5 years into eating healthy. 1203 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,960 Yes. And I've even noticed in recent 1204 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,800 years that that has like dissipated a lot. 1205 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,480 So it's been very gradual. Yeah. 1 hack that a recent 1206 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,440 podcast guest told me is if you are craving something sweet, 1207 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,200 have something fermented instead. 1208 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,160 Oh, interesting. And that that good bacteria in 1209 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,040 the fermented food is going to starve out the sugar craving 1210 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,880 bacteria. And it's an amazing hack I've 1211 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,560 been implementing. About That's funny. 1212 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,920 And I wonder if that has something to do with why 1213 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,320 sauerkraut is like my favorite midnight snack Yeah, it's like 1214 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,320 cold country. Cold, crunchy, fermented. 1215 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,240 I don't know. I like, that's like my ice. 1216 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,240 I still eat like clean ice cream but. 1217 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,040 Yeah, I love ice cream. Ice cream is just fun. 1218 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,680 Like, I'll never stop eating ice cream. 1219 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,360 Never. We got an ice cream maker for 1220 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,560 our wedding and now we're doing like raw milk eggs from the 1221 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:11,520 ranch. Oh my God. 1222 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,800 It's like honey. Yeah, it's so cool. 1223 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,920 We get that from the Amish. So that's like what I eat when I 1224 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,600 eat ice cream now. Yeah, unless I'm going out. 1225 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,720 Like sometimes I will eat ice cream out, but most of the time 1226 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,280 if I'm eating ice cream, it's. And it's basically the same 1227 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,640 thing that you said that you make. 1228 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,080 It's like raw milk, raw honey or Maple syrup and then egg. 1229 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,440 Yeah. So good. 1230 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,760 It's the best. Are you taking any supplements 1231 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,240 right now? Yes, I am, which I have 1232 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,880 simplified my supplement routine a ton over the years. 1233 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,640 I used to take so, so many and it felt a little overwhelming. 1234 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,000 And I've, I've whittled it down and I've been looking for more 1235 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,600 like whole food sources for my supplements and I want to make a 1236 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,920 baby. So really focusing on that like 1237 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,440 preconception health. And so the last like maybe 10 1238 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,000 months I've been doing liver. I've been doing liver for a long 1239 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,440 time, but now I'm like desiccated desiccated liver. 1240 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,400 Oyster, desiccated oyster, I guess then where do you get 1241 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,880 through? And then vitamin C, fertile 1242 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,560 FRTL, it's called the baseline bundle. 1243 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,920 It's those three. I think it's the only 1244 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,560 supplements that this brand even offers, and it's the first time 1245 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,960 I've ever had anything actually on subscription. 1246 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,000 Like, I use them, finish them, and they show up right away as 1247 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,320 soon as I'm done. And it's so cool because I think 1248 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,760 for most of my life I've taken supplements just hoping they're 1249 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,920 doing what they say they're gonna do. 1250 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,800 I'll say I haven't really. I've been able to tell a huge 1251 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,320 difference with them this time. Like I used to get cold sores 1252 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,320 every month the week before my period. 1253 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,360 It was a hormonal immunity thing. 1254 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,280 I remember this for years. It came out of the blue and then 1255 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,920 lasted forever. The last like 3 or 4 months I 1256 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,200 haven't gotten my cold sore. Wow. 1257 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,280 And I really attribute it to this bundle. 1258 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,520 The liver and all those nutrient dense vitamins, bioavailable 1259 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,960 vitamins, the zinc in its whole form in the oyster, which is 1260 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,480 also paired with copper and iron and then the vitamin C and whole 1261 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,800 food form. And they all work together. 1262 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,800 Like, and even this woman who started this brand, like she 1263 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,600 actually has gotten it tested for like the exact nutrients 1264 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,400 that are in them. And I, I love it. 1265 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,720 So that's what I've been doing. Sounds amazing. 1266 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:29,000 I do the I do desiccated liver as well, so I get it from heart 1267 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,280 and soil and I do the her package that they sell. 1268 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,160 So it's like reproductive organs from animals. 1269 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,280 And then I do their collagen also. 1270 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,440 So the supplements I take are mostly like whole food 1271 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,240 supplements. So I do the organs and the 1272 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,920 collagen and then Rosita extra virgin cod liver oil. 1273 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,440 I love that one. And then I do a few other 1274 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,840 things. There's what's it called C-15. 1275 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,120 It's like a fatty acid that there's all this research on 1276 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,520 C-15 and how I think humans like used to have more of it and we 1277 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,720 don't have as much of it anymore. 1278 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,800 And the way that it was discovered is from like a 1279 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,000 dolphin, someone who researched Navy dolphins and they found 1280 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,440 that the dolphins that were living longer had higher levels 1281 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,440 of C-15. Interesting. 1282 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,760 So it's just a fatty acid and I guess we just don't get enough 1283 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,120 of it and helps with longevity. So there's enough research 1284 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,280 behind it. Taking that. 1285 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,200 Maybe like 5 months. Oh wow. 1286 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,240 I can't say I physically like notice a difference, but I just 1287 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,800 feel like there's enough research and people that I trust 1288 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,200 recommend it, so why not? And then I kind of feel that way 1289 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,360 about midopure, which is Urolithin A, which is found in 1290 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,720 pomegranates. And it's just, it's a like 1291 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,760 mitochondrial supportive supplement. 1292 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,600 Yeah. So I think those are the main 1293 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,360 things that I take in like magnesium before bed. 1294 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,440 I take it internally, Magnesium Breakthrough is the brand. 1295 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,560 And then I apply it externally with our sleep spray also. 1296 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,120 Yeah, I think that's. Pretty much it. 1297 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,280 I've also been really getting into saffron lately. 1298 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,960 Have you taken saffron? No. 1299 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,200 So there's another really beautiful brand that I recently 1300 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,920 discovered called Wild Holistic and they they do a lot of like 1301 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,080 ancient traditional herbal remedies and blends and they 1302 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,160 have it's like saffron, turmeric and the ginkgo Balboa maybe I 1303 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,960 think biloba, yes. And. 1304 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,040 The shot I gave you before this Haba. 1305 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,560 Does that have that in the beekeeper shot? 1306 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,520 Yeah, amazing. And saffron, it's just like all 1307 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,600 these studies showing like how it helps like with ADHD, 1308 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:42,520 depression, focus, clarity, mood and like incredible benefits. 1309 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,600 OK, I have to say also Symbiotica, I forgot about 1310 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,280 Symbiotica, but I love their pouches. 1311 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,360 And so I don't necessarily take like I've got their vitamin C 1312 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,360 and their colostrum and their Sheila Jeep packets. 1313 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,120 And I don't take everyone every day, but I do kind of have those 1314 01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,800 on hand and I I mix them in here and there. 1315 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,200 People also asked about peptides. 1316 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,320 Oh yeah, I'm guessing you have not tried any peptides. 1317 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,960 I have not. OK, tell me about it. 1318 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,760 I don't know a lot about them. I'm doctor Camellia is coming on 1319 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:11,840 soon. We're going to talk all about 1320 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:16,600 peptides, but BPC 157 is one that I have taken several times. 1321 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,560 It's really good for lowering inflammation. 1322 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,280 It's good for that digestive tract and I noticed a difference 1323 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,800 with it. Cool. 1324 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,920 So I love BPC 157. Another trend right now 1325 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,840 biohacking now is a thing of the past. 1326 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,600 That term is is kind of out of date and the next Wellness 1327 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,840 buzzword is cell Ness or focusing on cell health. 1328 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,280 Wow. What are your thoughts I. 1329 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,720 Love it. I love it so much because it 1330 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,760 just makes, it's like, of course, it's like when we bring 1331 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,000 it back to the root, to the source, it's like what we're 1332 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,120 doing here through generative agriculture, focusing on the 1333 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,400 soil, Everything else flows from that, flourishes from that. 1334 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:59,000 So when we're focusing on cell health, it's like it flows from 1335 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,000 that foundation, yeah. I love it. 1336 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:06,720 I mean, between sellness and skinmalism and tallow and eating 1337 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,080 tons of meat, it's like all of this is just validation. 1338 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,080 It's like the stuff we've been talking about for 10 years. 1339 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,440 And it's almost like these New York Times and Vogue writers are 1340 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,880 just binging the Pure Life blog. Like you guys, you can just call 1341 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,080 us and like, we'll tell you what's what's on the forecast 1342 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,960 for the next 10 years if you want, because I love you're just 1343 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,320 now catching up to what we've already been talking about. 1344 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,920 And it's not just us, it's lots of people. 1345 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,200 But it's funny how like cell health, this is something that's 1346 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,600 so foundational and so basic. And now it's like this buzzy, 1347 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,400 like new thing when there's nothing new about it, one person 1348 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,520 asked. What do you do when the pursuit 1349 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,120 of health becomes an idol? It's a good question. 1350 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,920 Yeah. Wow, I have thoughts so I'll 1351 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,640 hear your thoughts first. I mean, I think that health and 1352 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,560 Wellness should support everything that you do in life 1353 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,280 versus being the sole focus of it. 1354 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,400 So like thinking about health in a way that is like supporting 1355 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,680 your your mission in life and how you show up to the world 1356 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,240 rather than this is the one thing that I care about and I 1357 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,400 want this to be optimized above everything else. 1358 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,040 It's like, no, that's important so that you can do everything 1359 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,600 else that you were put on this earth to do. 1360 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,640 Exactly. So I think it's a like it's a 1361 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:25,440 perspective thing and something that I love from Ruth Chow 1362 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,520 Simmons. She's she talks about like this 1363 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,360 idea of stewarding versus striving. 1364 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,920 So I think that we can get caught on the hamster wheel of 1365 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,120 just like, striving for optimal health. 1366 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,280 And rather than thinking of it that way, like we should think 1367 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,440 of it as like, how am I stewarding my body? 1368 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,440 How am I taking care of myself to the best of my ability? 1369 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,560 And yeah, I think it's just something we all have to kind of 1370 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:51,560 gauge and be mindful of as we are on these health journeys. 1371 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,960 I love that. Yeah, I think that too. 1372 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,280 It's like that perspective, that heart posture, like the why 1373 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,280 behind it? Like is it the striving to 1374 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,760 attain this like perfection or is it, it reminds me of our 1375 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,160 philosophy on self health and the difference between self 1376 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,480 health and all these trendy self love self-care, which can be 1377 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,040 more indulgent, selfish, superficial when self health 1378 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,360 really the the priority is different, the posture is 1379 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,760 different in perspective, so. What's something that you're 1380 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,160 currently super interested in and just geeking out on? 1381 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,920 I'm currently geeking out over my husband for sure. 1382 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:37,920 I'm obsessed, but I am diving deep into detoxing my closet for 1383 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,600 the first time ever. I'm like waking up to the 1384 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,400 reality of what my fabrics are made out of. 1385 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,240 Like I feel like I've been walking this while I'm. 1386 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,080 Straining even mindful of that in the past now. 1387 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,200 No, OK, I mean, maybe I was just drawn to like, I mean, I swapped 1388 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,160 over to Linen's sheets in like 2019 just because I love, I love 1389 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,600 how linen. Feels, yeah, maybe that's why I 1390 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,960 thought that because you do just naturally I think gravitate 1391 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,920 towards natural fibers and I see you in linen a lot so I just 1392 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,480 kind of assumed that was also for health reasons so. 1393 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,240 So only just literally in the last few months. 1394 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,960 Like this is very very new for me. 1395 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,640 Bethany. I think it was like 2 months 1396 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,680 ago. I feel so silly saying this. 1397 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,399 I learned polyester was plastic. What? 1398 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,000 I did not. No, I genuinely did not know. 1399 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,359 Wow. I know. 1400 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,399 So only in the last few months I changed out all my underwear, 1401 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,760 all my bras, my socks, my athletic wear. 1402 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,600 Like slowly, like thank God for Black Friday, but like I did not 1403 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,640 know. I've been made by when you when 1404 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,760 you swap. I really love Mate the label, 1405 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,600 their bra let's are my absolute. Fave I love mate. 1406 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,479 Their leggings are awesome, all their active wear I really love 1407 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,399 and then intimates and like underwear I got from packed. 1408 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,319 I really like them too and their leggings and then their 1409 01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:00,960 sweatshirts like their their sweaters all organic cotton so 1410 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,760 soft. My mother-in-law loved it so 1411 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,399 much she wanted it for Christmas. 1412 01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:09,240 And it's like these natural fibers feel better, I know. 1413 01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:12,840 Like I feel better even knowing I'm wearing them and even to 1414 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,439 learning about the fertility connection and like wanting to 1415 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,520 conceive now that I just got married. 1416 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,200 And it's like, Oh my gosh. Who knew? 1417 01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:22,240 Is John wearing cotton underwear? 1418 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,600 He always has. Oh, nice. 1419 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,240 Yeah. He's like, it's not organic, but 1420 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,479 it's cotton. And I'm like, that's great. 1421 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,720 Yeah, it's fine. Nads is a good brand of organic 1422 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,000 cotton underwear for men and then for women. 1423 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:36,520 Yeah, does make make underwear. I don't think they do. 1424 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,680 Do they? I just got the brolettes. 1425 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,279 Yeah, yeah, mate's great, Packed is great and then subset is 1426 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:44,040 another one that's good. I love their underwear. 1427 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,319 Subset. Thank you. 1428 01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:48,080 Oh yeah, I am like forever. I've converted. 1429 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,279 Yeah. Completely so geeking out over 1430 01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:51,640 that. What about you? 1431 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,440 Something I'm geeking out on is circadian biology. 1432 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:57,760 I mean, everyone around me, people are tired of hearing me 1433 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,600 talk about this, but I'm not going to stop talking about it 1434 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,480 because it's so important. It's like right up there with 1435 01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:05,960 food in my opinion. And I think that's going to be 1436 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,160 the thing that like 5 years from now, everyone's going to be 1437 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,560 talking about it and it's going to be a bigger deal than it is 1438 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,800 because I just think that artificial light, the wrong 1439 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,280 lights at the wrong times, are wreaking havoc on our health. 1440 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,680 And the lack of sunlight when we need sunlight is also wreaking 1441 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,560 havoc on our health. So I think more and more 1442 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,280 information and knowledge is going to come out about this in 1443 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,400 the coming years. But yeah, super important one. 1444 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,840 And I think it's so powerful too, because it's like free. 1445 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,040 It's here. It just takes like a little bit 1446 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,840 of intention to like. Yeah, we're so used to living 1447 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,200 indoors. We spend, the average person 1448 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,320 spends, what is it like 94% of their time indoors. 1449 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,400 We're so disconnected from this amazing source of life that God 1450 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,000 has given us for free. And I just think we're only 1451 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,320 scratching the surface of like, what the benefits of sunlight 1452 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,360 actually are at different times in the day and taking advantage 1453 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,720 of all of that. Yeah, I mean, I'll, I'll stop 1454 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,960 there, OK? Give me your most absurd habit. 1455 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,760 Like something you would do that people would just gawk at and 1456 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,240 think is so bizarre. Can you answer this one first? 1457 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,120 OK. I mean, I probably have several 1458 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:21,160 and I think like I just, I don't realize that I'm doing. 1459 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,400 I don't realize that some of the things that I do are not normal 1460 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,560 until I'm with people and they're like, what are you 1461 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,440 doing? Yeah. 1462 01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:29,720 Like when I drop into a squat after, you know, I just, I sit 1463 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,040 in a squat now. Like ever since I recorded that 1464 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,840 episode of things, squatting is like my go to position. 1465 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,560 And if I'm not squatting enough, I like crave being in that 1466 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,080 position. Squat. 1467 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,000 I do jumping air squats after I eat. 1468 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,960 I mean, I'm not going to like start doing squats in the middle 1469 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,720 of a restaurant. Like, I have a little bit of, 1470 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,400 you know, awareness of my surroundings. 1471 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,200 But if I'm on the podcast studio between recordings, like I was 1472 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,800 doing a little while ago, yeah, I'm gonna squat because I've 1473 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,920 been sitting for a long time and I need to get some energy out 1474 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,960 and I need to move my body. So, I mean, that's a little 1475 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,120 weird, I think. And then I will wear red light 1476 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:10,360 glasses in public now. Like if it's night time, I will. 1477 01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:12,720 I mean, if I'm in a nice dinner, it's dimly lit already. 1478 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,480 I'm not going to like wear blue blockers. 1479 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,560 But if I'm like in Costco at night, like I was two nights ago 1480 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:24,200 under bright fluorescent lighting at like 7:30, you know, 1481 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,000 which right now in California, it's dark by what, 6? 1482 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,600 So it's like, yeah, that would just be too. 1483 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,240 I'm too sensitive. Like I'm not going to, it's too 1484 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,640 much. Very stimulating, yeah. 1485 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,600 So like I will walk around Costco or wherever with red lens 1486 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,720 glasses on it. I don't care if people think 1487 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,800 that that looks. Weird. 1488 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,360 I don't know. I don't think probably I just 1489 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,280 literally I do not care not for less. 1490 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,480 And then I have this red light headlamp. 1491 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,040 Now people are going to think I'm really weird, but I do have 1492 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,200 a red light headlamp that I wear at night, like in my own home. 1493 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,960 And when family members come over like my husband, my kids 1494 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,440 are used to it. And but when family members come 1495 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:04,760 over, they're like what is happening? 1496 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,240 Because I've got like red light glasses on, but the lights are 1497 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,480 all dim. So the red light headlamp then 1498 01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:12,040 also it helps me to to see better. 1499 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,200 Is that like when you're reading a book or like started? 1500 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,920 As that it started as just for reading at night when all the 1501 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,760 lights were out. Yeah, but, and I don't do this 1502 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,200 all night, but it's like it's kind of the last maybe hour, 1503 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,080 half hour of the night where I'll put it on. 1504 01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:29,200 And I use it to like I do my skin care routine with my red 1505 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,640 light headlamp on because you obviously like I can't wear 1506 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,640 glasses while I'm doing my skin care routine. 1507 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,800 But I also don't want to turn on a light because right now I 1508 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,520 don't have circadian friendly lighting in my home. 1509 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,280 We're renting a house right now and you know, once I'm back in 1510 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,800 my home with circadian friendly lighting, I won't do this. 1511 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,280 But yeah, I do my skin care routine with a red light 1512 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,120 headlamp. So things like that I'll do with 1513 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:47,560 that on. Oh. 1514 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,800 My gosh, that's amazing. Which I will say, talking about 1515 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,800 the circadian lighting, that is something John had before I came 1516 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,880 into his life. But he would use it for like the 1517 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,240 green and the blue and the purple. 1518 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,160 And I'm like, no, now we need to keep it on that, like low red, 1519 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,040 low, warm. Like it's it makes a huge 1520 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,400 difference when you have those light bulbs. 1521 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,080 And once you feel it, you can't go back. 1522 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,080 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. 1523 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:08,960 OK. Well, I love that. 1524 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,680 So what do you do? I would well, because thinking 1525 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,200 about this question, probably people would gawk at what I do, 1526 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,800 but it feels so normal to me now that it doesn't seem like a 1527 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,000 weird thing. But I will say, since being 1528 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,320 married, I have realized, oh, they're these aren't really so 1529 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,720 normal like like putting on the the red glasses like before bed, 1530 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,200 like while reading a book or whatever, and John being like, 1531 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,440 why are you wearing those glasses? 1532 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:37,000 Like what? What are they for? 1533 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,040 And then I don't know, I think of oil pulling, which these 1534 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,120 aren't in public. So I don't know what I do in 1535 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,640 public, but like even oil pulling in the morning, it's 1536 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,640 like I can't have a conversation for 10 minutes. 1537 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,520 Like I have to just like mime everything and. 1538 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,240 That's different. Yeah, I do that too. 1539 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:58,840 But yeah, it's different. And then, I don't know, I will 1540 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:06,520 say back in the day before, like reading labels, like not having 1541 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,200 a glass of wine, like I think that was a big thing when I 1542 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,520 stopped drinking, that was a big thing that people were like, 1543 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,040 wow, like, why are you not drinking? 1544 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,200 What's going on? But now there's such a movement 1545 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,360 towards that, like alcohol sales have dipped drastically. 1546 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,800 So it is way more readily accepted. 1547 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,760 So I don't know. I wish I had a better answer. 1548 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,280 No, that's great. I'm sure you'll think of more 1549 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:30,840 things later. Yeah. 1550 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,000 OK. What are your biggest? 1551 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,320 Pet peeves. Oh man. 1552 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,960 Well, the one I will say I have always said my whole life, which 1553 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,960 I hope this doesn't offend anybody, but. 1554 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,440 It'll offend someone cyclists who think they're. 1555 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:50,320 Cars and I'm like, I can't get by you and you're like stopping 1556 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,240 at the red light. I don't know, it's just like the 1557 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,000 worst. But I also know maybe you're not 1558 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,080 allowed to ride on the sidewalk, but I'm like, the road is for 1559 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,840 cars and then. I don't know. 1560 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,400 Good one. So that is something I have said 1561 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,560 my whole life and I'm not a cyclist so I don't know what 1562 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,080 it's like on the other side, but. 1563 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,080 The funny thing about these cyclists is you talk to them and 1564 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,800 they've all been hit by cars before, but they just keep doing 1565 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,200 it like it's normal for them to be hit by cars. 1566 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,360 They don't care. Oh, no. 1567 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,280 So it's like there's something weird there with cyclists. 1568 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,600 And yeah, I agree. I'm sorry. 1569 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,600 If you're a cyclist and you have a different perspective, you 1570 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,240 can, like, message us and tell us your perspective. 1571 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,240 I think it's weird. I think that you should just, 1572 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,720 like, maybe hike or something. Yeah. 1573 01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:31,920 Oh my gosh, I love that. So that's like my long term, 1574 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,480 long time pet peeve. But more recently when I've 1575 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,680 realized I think too, it's hitting me harder and it's a 1576 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:41,040 little bit annoying and frustrating because we are so 1577 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,240 distracted by our phones that my biggest pet peeve is when we 1578 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,560 don't acknowledge the human in front of us. 1579 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,720 Like we don't say hi, we don't make eye contact. 1580 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,880 We act like you're not even there. 1581 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,520 Like what kind of a life is that? 1582 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,000 That's that's my new pet peeve. That's like a little bit of a 1583 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,440 deeper. That's a heavy one, pet. 1584 01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:02,640 Peeve of just like so I'm trying to be way and I'm guilty of that 1585 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,600 but like I want to be way more aware of like acknowledging the 1586 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,240 human making eye contact. Yeah, it's good. 1587 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,200 It's good. Yeah. 1588 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,880 Yeah, I have one that's a little bit similar to that, and it's 1589 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,000 the. I've talked about this before, 1590 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,720 but it's the QR code menus at restaurants where you have to 1591 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,840 pull out your phone and scan the QR code to see what they're 1592 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,320 offering. I hate that. 1593 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:27,400 I hate scented trash bags and yes you cannot buy them, but if 1594 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,760 you go to an Airbnb and they have them, it's horrible. 1595 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,520 It's horrible. Like just let the trash smell 1596 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,040 bad and then take it out if it's too bad. 1597 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,080 We don't have to always like mask these bad smells with more 1598 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,080 bad smells. And same goes for like Ubers 1599 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,520 that think they have to just infuse the whole thing with 1600 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,760 horrible scents and have the stupid Christmas tree like just 1601 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,800 clean your car and just have it smell normal. 1602 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,080 You don't have to scent it. Not everything has to be 1603 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:52,560 scented. We. 1604 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,240 Stayed in an Airbnb a couple weeks ago for John's brothers 1605 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,320 birthday. There was a glade plug in in 1606 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:03,560 almost every single outlet and it's a 5 bedroom home. 1607 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,160 They're just I had to go around in. 1608 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,720 So naive at this point to be still using Glade plug 1609 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,040 insurance. I truly, I was like, people 1610 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,480 still buy this stuff. Yeah, it's true. 1611 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,560 And I think too, when you're not aware, when you're not in this 1612 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,800 space, you're not learning these things and adopting these 1613 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,600 habits, like you're just, you're just infiltrated with that all 1614 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,360 the time that it's like normal. And so I think because we've 1615 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,600 removed fragrance so long ago that we're so sensitive to it 1616 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,400 now. And for so many people, it's 1617 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,440 just, it's what they're used to, you know? 1618 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,000 But it's a choice. You're choosing to be naive by 1619 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,840 by doing that. Like at this day and age with 1620 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,400 the access to information we have, no one should be using 1621 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,880 Glade plug insurance anymore. Yeah, I hate that. 1622 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,160 Oh yeah, polyester sheets is another one. 1623 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,480 And a lot of these things are just things that I notice when 1624 01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:54,880 I'm travelling where I'm like, how are we all not past this by 1625 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,920 now? So it's a scented trash bags, 1626 01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:01,800 It's the polyester sheets, it's the scented hotel lobbies are 1627 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,040 another one. The LED, The bright LED lights 1628 01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,520 in every Airbnb, in every hotel room did. 1629 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,160 You hear about Grand Central Station over the holidays and 1630 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,480 Bath and Body Works. Horrible. 1631 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,120 Yeah, horrible. You don't have to just be 1632 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,520 worried about being assaulted by a homeless person at the at 1633 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,360 Grand Central Station. You have to be concerned about 1634 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,440 being your sense is being assaulted by fragrance being 1635 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:27,320 blasted on you against your will. 1636 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:28,080 That's crazy. Yeah. 1637 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,320 A lot of risks there. What's something that you have 1638 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,800 felt encouraged by or inspired by lately that you want to share 1639 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,000 with our audience? I love this question. 1640 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:43,200 So many things, so many things, but I mean, honestly, just in 1641 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,600 the season of life that I'm in coming up on a year of being 1642 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:51,680 married and I think truly I'm still inspired and encouraged 1643 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,720 and in awe of God writing my love story. 1644 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,400 Like it's like so many decades of like praying in my person and 1645 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,160 waiting and trusting and decades of dating and disappointment. 1646 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,520 It was so it was the worst dating so, so hard. 1647 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,320 But I think like. Regardless of what season you're 1648 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,960 in, whatever you're trusting for, praying for, waiting for, 1649 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,520 like I always say, John is like my Ephesians 320. 1650 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,760 He's my immeasurably more than I could ever ask, dream or 1651 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,560 imagine. And it's like, that's what 1652 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,400 we're, that's what's on the other side. 1653 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,280 And so whatever season you're in, whatever you're trusting 1654 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,120 for, like just keep on keeping on cuz the wait will be worth 1655 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,600 it. So good, so good. 1656 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,080 I love that. OK, mine's not quite as good as 1657 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:38,000 yours, but I so I love Tim and Demi Tebow. 1658 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,960 We support their organization. They're amazing people. 1659 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,440 And I was listening to Tim Tebow on a podcast recently where he 1660 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:48,800 was talking about the difference between being buried and being 1661 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,440 planted and how in the moment, if you're being buried or you're 1662 01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:55,480 being planted, it feels like the exact same thing. 1663 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,360 And so when we think about like the hard seasons that we go 1664 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:05,800 through and if we can see those hard seasons as like a setup for 1665 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:10,240 something bigger versus like a set back, just having that 1666 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,400 perspective shift kind of changes everything. 1667 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,400 And there's always going to be fruit that comes from it if we 1668 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,480 if we let it happen that way. So I loved that. 1669 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,600 And I've just been like hanging on to that lately because just 1670 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,200 with our living situation over the last several years, I'm not 1671 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,840 going to go in too much detail, but it's felt like set back 1672 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,600 after set back after set back. And I've just been trying to see 1673 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,120 it as like, OK, what is this setting us up for? 1674 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,840 What fruit is going to come of this? 1675 01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:39,640 I know something will. And I'm just like holding out 1676 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,280 hope for that. I love that analogy so much. 1677 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,880 And it just makes me think of when I shattered my heel bone a 1678 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,360 couple years ago and I couldn't go to my I couldn't go home 1679 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,280 because I couldn't walk for months and I had to go move in 1680 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,520 with my mom and my sister and my nephew and I felt displaced. 1681 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,240 Like I went on a trip and I never returned home. 1682 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,360 And also too like it did feel like such a set back and I felt 1683 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,840 like as I was praying through that season, even, it was like 1684 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,160 God was like, I'm not displacing you, I'm positioning you. 1685 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,000 And I always say I broke my heel and then I met my husband 1686 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,840 because of the ripple effect of that season and the connections 1687 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,720 I made in the friendships that were built led me to John. 1688 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,600 So I love that of like feeling buried and feeling dark and 1689 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,040 displaced like you guys in your home, but really God's like 1690 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,520 positioning you and setting you up for the fruit and the 1691 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,360 abundance that's ahead. Yeah. 1692 01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:36,720 Oh, that's such a good example. I love it. 1693 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,600 Court, thank you for coming out to the farm. 1694 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,240 It's so good to see you again. The best. 1695 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,680 I told Courtney before we started recording that this 1696 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,040 would probably be like a little like 30-40 minute catch up 1697 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,360 conversation. I think we're at like well over 1698 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,720 an hour right now. So love to talk about. 1699 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,520 Hopefully our audience will enjoy this conversation and 1700 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,440 hopefully less time will pass between when we see each other 1701 01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,520 again. Let's do this in Texas sometime. 1702 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,800 Yeah, Let's do it. Thanks, Court. 1703 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:04,600 Thanks, Bethany.