1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,760 Welcome to Grounded Wellness, your go to podcast for 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,880 simplified and trusted information on how to live a 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,080 more non-toxic and holistic life. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,000 We're your hosts. I'm Bethany McDaniel, founder of 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,440 primarily pure, biohacking enthusiast and mom of three. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,760 And I'm Courtney O'Connor, holistic esthetician with over 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,480 15 years experience in the healing power of touch and 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,840 holistic skin care rituals. Living in a world full of toxic 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,560 products can be stressful, especially when you're trying to 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,240 keep your family healthy. We're talking with Doctor Yvonne 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Burkhart, a toxicologist with 22 years of experience and a mom of 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,360 two. Doctor Burkhart will give simple 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,920 tips on how to lower your toxic exposures and help your body 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,880 detox naturally. We'll also cover topics like 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,840 Botox and forever chemicals. She believes even small changes 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,600 can have a big impact, and I couldn't agree more. 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Let's dig in. Hello, everyone, and welcome to 18 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:02,680 Grounded Wellness. I'm here at the farm with Doctor 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,000 Yvonne Burkhart. Thank you so much for joining 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,360 us. Thank you for having me. 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,680 It's amazing to be out here on the farm. 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Yeah, of course. Have you tried your drink yet? 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,800 That I made. For what is it? 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,680 I'm excited to try it. I've been staring at it. 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,240 What is it? It's a liver smoothie. 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,880 Have you ever had raw liver? I've tried. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Tiny bits of it, but never in a smoothie. 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,320 Form OK, so this will be a good end be able to taste it if I if 29 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:27,520 I did my job correctly. It also has berries, mint 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,920 leaves, some raw milk. So yeah, it should just taste 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,200 really crazy. Sounds really nutrient. 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Dense. I want to hear what you think. 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,760 I don't detect liver at all. That's amazing. 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,960 Yeah. Wow. 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Is this your own risk? A lot. 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,320 To mask it, Yeah. Well, I'd love to start out by 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,280 giving our listeners a little bit of background into your 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,480 story and how you got into the world of toxicology. 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,440 I actually stumbled on toxicology when I was in 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,880 undergrad and I joined the lab as a dishwasher and I started 41 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,360 observing the professor. She was running all kinds of 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,880 experiments and I just got really interested in what she 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,200 was doing and I could have the chance to join as a research 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,080 student. So I jumped at the chance and 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,640 it's been just an amazing journey ever since. 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Wow, as a dishwasher that's wild. 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,960 And you have your own health journey, your personal journey 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,920 of healing. Can you share a little bit about 49 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,360 that? Yeah, of course, this probably 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,840 started about 12 years ago when I started having increased 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,120 stress due to my work life. I had just joined a flavor 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,000 company working as a toxicologist. 53 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 So that was my first real experience as a toxicologist in 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,440 the chemical industry and IT. Was just real quickly, what does 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,640 that look like in that world? Like now I know as a 56 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,840 toxicologist you are talking about you're inspiring people to 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,480 live cleaner lives and you're exposing the toxins in different 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,760 areas, but what about in, in that type of a, a setting? 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,000 Like what are you? What does the toxicologist do 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 when you're working in the flavor industry? 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,160 That's a really good question. There's actually toxicologist in 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,840 pretty much every industry you can imagine. 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,960 So the main ones that you might think of would be in the 64 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Pharmaceutical industry. There's actually toxicologist 65 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,960 who are running safety studies to make sure that the drugs are 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,720 supposed to be safe. We know that doesn't always 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,600 happen according to plan, but the role of a toxicologist is 68 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,360 really to determine what are the risks and what are the safe 69 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,360 doses and levels that humans can consume. 70 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,880 OK. And ideally it would be long 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,440 term and for most products it's actually you should be looking 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,680 at long term data, right? But unfortunately there isn't a 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,160 lot of it and so it's kind of like a toss up and a human 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,800 experiment at this point. Yeah, that's so interesting. 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 OK, sorry to interrupt. So you were working as a 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,880 toxicologist in the flavour industry? 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Yeah, so in the flavour industry, it was my job to make 78 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,040 sure that flavour chemicals were safe before they were added to 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,840 food, OK, before they were sold to other food manufacturers to 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,560 put into their products. I also worked with the fragrance 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,400 division of the company as well. So flavour and fragrance 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,200 chemicals actually overlap. They're pretty much the same. 83 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Interesting. Yeah. 84 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,360 So if you think about it, the chemicals that give rise to a 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 strawberry flavor also give rise to the strawberry scent. 86 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:17,880 Yeah, makes sense. Yeah. 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,560 So when I was working in the flavor company, I was really 88 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,800 stressed out. It was high pressure, high 89 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,640 intensity environment and I just started to notice that my health 90 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,040 was deteriorating. Before that, it was totally 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,480 conventional lifestyle. I grew up eating all of the 92 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 stuff that you see in the grocery stores, using all the 93 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 products. Yeah, just living a totally 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,400 conventional lifestyle until I was faced with fertility issues. 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,160 And I just knew that I had to figure out what was the root 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,720 cause of this. I knew that something else was 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,440 going on. Doctors told me that IVF was my 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,080 only option and I wasn't willing to accept that. 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Yeah, that's amazing. And that is not a unique story. 100 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:03,440 The Scientific American published an article discussing 101 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,480 how in the last 50 years, infertility has gone up 1% each 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,840 year. Can you touch on the role that 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,320 toxins are playing in this epidemic of infertility? 104 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,000 I believe they're at the root. They're definitely at the root 105 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,560 of it. I mean, when I was an undergrad 106 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,040 studying chemicals in the lab, we were looking at how 107 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,040 environmental chemicals impact infertility and cancer. 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,960 So it's, it's not a surprise at all. 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,440 It's, I'm 100% convinced that the chemicals that we're being 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,800 exposed through to food, air, water, consumer products, those 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,680 are absolutely at the root of why we're experiencing so much 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,800 disease and infertility especially. 113 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,960 And the rise in cancer is just astronomic. 114 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,600 And how were you able to overcome that? 115 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,200 What sorts of changes did you make? 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,320 I first started with working with a functional Dr. So I had 117 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,840 gone to several conventional allopathic doctors and they all 118 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,720 told me the same thing. IVF is your only option. 119 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,160 Don't do anything else. You don't have to change 120 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,880 anything else. And then I said, this doesn't 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 seem right. Something is not sitting right 122 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,040 with me. I did my own research, found 123 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,400 functional medicine. I found a practitioner in my 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,320 area who started running tests and they found that there were 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,360 imbalances. I had gut, leaky gut, extreme 126 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,000 leaky gut. Actually, it was really, really 127 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,200 bad. I had a lot of acne, dark 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,920 circles, I couldn't sleep, I really couldn't function in life 129 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,120 and the first thing they had me do was change my diet. 130 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Yeah, we were talking about this a little bit offline. 131 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,040 You you transitioned to an autoimmune paleo diet for, I 132 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,040 think you said six months. It was. 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,760 It was in total about six months. 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Yeah, and that's a long time. That's, you know, that's a big 135 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,920 overhaul for someone who came from eating a standard American 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,240 diet. Was that hard for you? 137 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,520 And what changes did you notice after doing that? 138 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,640 It was definitely challenging at first, but I just said, you know 139 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,040 what, I'm going all in on this. This is, I know I need to do 140 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,880 this to give my body the best chance it has to regulate and 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,560 heal. I just knew I had to do 142 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,880 something and I didn't want to go the route of taking 143 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,520 medications and you know, just being reliant on those things to 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,040 just barely survive. I want to thrive. 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,880 So I really started cleaning up my lifestyle. 146 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Food was first. I did the autoimmune paleo 147 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,680 protocol for about 6 months and I worked with closely with the 148 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,320 functional Dr. And they were helping me to monitor my 149 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 symptoms and inflammatory markers. 150 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,000 And we started seeing things go down, numbers were improving. 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,480 And then, yeah, things just went uphill from there. 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Wow. And what other changes did you 153 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,080 make? What other areas of life did 154 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,200 you, you know, change or make swaps? 155 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Oh, it was as soon as I started feeling better with my gut, I 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,600 said there's still something that I know is not 100% healthy 157 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,160 for me and my environment because I at the time I was 158 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,400 still using a lot of cosmetics, perfume. 159 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,520 I was in that environment. I worked in a company that helps 160 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,680 to make those types of products and so one of the things that I 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,520 swapped out next were were all my beauty and personal care 162 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,320 products. Immediately I just said I've got 163 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,560 to scale back on this. I switched out all of my 164 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,680 shampoo, my makeup, especially things that are sitting on the 165 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,480 skin that I was using day in and day out. 166 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,240 I love makeup, I love products, so I needed to make sure that 167 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,960 they were as low tox and clean as possible. 168 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Yeah, that's amazing. I think that's how it how the 169 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,880 journey works for a lot of people. 170 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,000 I know it was for me too. When my family started this 171 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,480 farm, I started eating differently, eating Whole Foods, 172 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,799 avoiding ultra processed foods. Noticed a huge difference with 173 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,240 that, not only and how I felt, but in the health of my skin. 174 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,240 And then that prompted me to look into same as you, beauty 175 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,720 and personal care products, switch those out next. 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,760 And then it was like cleaning products. 177 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,480 And then from there you're just, you're finding all the little 178 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,520 things, you know, 'cause there's, there's so many other 179 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,520 things aside from those like major categories. 180 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,080 And still I'm finding like, you know, toilet paper was a more 181 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,200 recent one for me that I switched out and, and so there's 182 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,040 always more and more and more to do. 183 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,000 But at what point were you able to then conceive naturally after 184 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,800 making all these changes? I'd say it was about nine 185 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:10,440 months. Wow. 186 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:16,120 After, after the initial, you know, venture into functional 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,960 medicine and just really taking care of my body and finding the 188 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,920 root cause. It was it was pretty, pretty 189 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,080 fast and I was amazed and still so thankful to this day that it 190 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,400 happened. Yeah, that's incredible. 191 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,640 And are you still working in the toxicology industry, in the 192 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,760 flavor industry at this point? No, I left as soon as my 193 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,840 daughter was almost one. It just was an ethical 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,920 misalignment. It wasn't where I wanted to use 195 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400 my knowledge and expertise. I knew I could make a bigger 196 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,200 impact by informing the public about what I had been learning 197 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,560 about for 1015 years up until that point. 198 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,440 So you mentioned you had an ethical misalignment in your 199 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,560 career. What were some of the things 200 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:59,200 that you were noticing that made you kind of start to question 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,720 the line of work that you were in? 202 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,440 It was really the fact that it was a prioritization of profit 203 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,640 over everything else. OK. 204 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:12,080 So as a toxicologist, were you finding things that that you 205 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,520 spoke out about that that were not? 206 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Were you finding things that were not safe for consumers that 207 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,240 were being ignored? Was there anything like that 208 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,320 going on? Not necessarily that made it 209 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,640 onto the market, but there was definitely concerns that I had 210 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:32,360 voiced that maybe weren't given enough priority as it could have 211 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,840 been. Yeah, thankfully those didn't 212 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 make it to market because they didn't work out anyway. 213 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,920 But I can't speak on what's happening now. 214 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Right. It's kind of sounds like it 215 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,640 might be a little bit of a free for all. 216 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,600 You know, I know when we think about fragrance and how that's 217 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,120 protected by the FDA as a trade secret, it's a blanket term and 218 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,920 can include any number of different chemicals combined. 219 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Is the same thing true for like natural flavors and and that 220 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,880 label when it comes to food? Yeah, it's a you have, it's a 221 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,360 total mixed bag. You have no idea. 222 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,960 It's a black box. You have no idea what's in 223 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,880 there. Even some of the people who are 224 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,320 buying flavors and putting them in their foods don't know. 225 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Only the flavor company knows. Yeah, 'cause they outsource that 226 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,720 completely, right? What is the difference between 227 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,120 natural flavors and artificial flavors? 228 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,800 Natural flavors must. Have been at least identified in 229 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,280 nature somewhere. OK. 230 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,800 But it doesn't necessarily have to come from the source that it 231 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,760 says it comes from. So for example, vanilla vanillin 232 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,640 doesn't have to come from vanilla at all. 233 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 In fact, a lot of vanillin at the time that I was working 234 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,720 there was produced from cloves. So it still came from a natural 235 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,440 source, it just wasn't from the actual name source. 236 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,760 And artificial flavours are those that are not found in 237 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,880 nature at all. They're completely synthetic and 238 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,520 man made. OK, So what if a what if they 239 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,320 make a synthetic version of something that is in nature? 240 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Would that be classified as a natural or an artificial flavor? 241 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Natural. Wow. 242 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Even though it's made in a lab? Yes, wow. 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,120 As long as the as long as something similar to it exists 244 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,360 in nature, it can be called natural flavor. 245 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,000 To some, to some extent. I mean, there are different 246 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,960 percentages. It it gets pretty nuanced. 247 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,600 It's pretty complicated. It's complicated. 248 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,520 But in general, yes, it can happen that way. 249 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,320 So do you eat anything with natural flavors now? 250 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,200 I avoid and minimize as much as I can and I just find that 251 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,280 flavors are overused. There's a lot of products that 252 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,600 don't need flavors in them that it doesn't make sense to have it 253 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,720 in there. So I won't, I won't choose that 254 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,880 product. Yeah, let's transition to 255 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,560 personal care a little bit. What are some of the biggest red 256 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:38,160 flags that you see in personal care products these days? 257 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,320 Well, you mentioned it. Fragrance is probably at the top 258 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,240 of the list because it's pretty much in everything. 259 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,800 It's also easily avoidable, so. Fragrance. 260 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Perfume that says that on the label? 261 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:49,880 Don't get it? Right. 262 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,040 It's a no go. It's a no go because more often 263 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,920 than not, there are endocrine disruptors in there. 264 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Phthalates are listed on the industry the fragrance industry 265 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,960 website as one of the possible ingredients and there's been 266 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,560 studies showing that a large number of fragrances contain 267 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:07,160 phthalates. And what is a? 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,000 Phthalate. Well, phthalates are, they're 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,840 technically plasticizer chemicals, but they have a lot 270 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,480 of different uses in consumer products. 271 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:17,680 So one of them, specifically for fragrances, is to prolong the 272 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960 sensory experience of the of the scent. 273 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,400 So you don't really ever see fragrance without phthalate? 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,680 Would that be an accurate assumption? 275 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,320 We. Can't say that across the board, 276 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,280 but more often than not there are phthalates in there. 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,080 OK. It really depends on the 278 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,040 product, on the company. You can look for products that 279 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,440 contain fragrance that say they're phthalate free. 280 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,760 So it's up to you just being able to. 281 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,000 You just have to trust that company if you want that 282 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,880 product. And if you're not comfortable 283 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,120 with that, that's something I'm not comfortable with even if it 284 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,040 says phthalate free unless I know exactly what's in that 285 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,360 fragrance. If it's essential oils, then I'm 286 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,520 OK with that. If it if they won't tell you 287 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,800 what's in it, but they say it's phthalate free, I'm still don't 288 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,600 avoid that. Pfas are getting a lot of 289 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,240 attention lately. What risks do they pose to the 290 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,880 consumer? So PFAS chemicals are known as 291 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,040 PER and polyfluoroalkyl substances. 292 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,920 That's what the acronym stands for. 293 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680 They're basically these fluoridated chemicals. 294 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,720 There's nearly 15,000 of them. Wow, that are known. 295 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Anyway, there could be more, but they basically impart a 296 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,880 waterproof nonstick stain proof stain resistant property to 297 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,160 whatever product they're applied to. 298 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,320 So they're found in nonstick cookware, in rain gear, yoga 299 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,800 pants, like anything that's sweat wicking stain guard on 300 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,200 your furniture. You can find them in cosmetics 301 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,600 too unfortunately. What? 302 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,520 Use do they have in cosmetics? Why would why would a cosmetic 303 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,800 manufacturer put pee fuzz in their products? 304 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,080 They want the long lasting waterproof. 305 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Effect. OK. 306 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,040 Yeah. And what are the risks of them? 307 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,760 Well. There's several risks there. 308 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,760 First of all, extremely persistent. 309 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,440 So once they enter your body, it can take years, if not decades 310 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,440 for them to leave your body, if that. 311 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,520 But the fact that we are being like exposed continuously, 312 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,960 they're actually accumulating in our bodies. 313 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,800 So the problem with PFAS are that they are not only endocrine 314 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,200 disrupting, but they are also carcinogenic. 315 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,720 And is it possible to detox from them in a shorter amount of time 316 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,640 than I think you mentioned like 10 plus years they're they 317 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,800 remain in the system. Is it possible through detox 318 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,640 optimization to get rid of them more quickly? 319 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Or do we not really know? It's not really clear yet at 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,920 this point according to the research. 321 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,600 I haven't seen any evidence that you can speed that up other than 322 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,560 living as clean and low tox as you can just to give your body 323 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,360 the best chance it can to detoxify. 324 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,600 Yeah. What about period products? 325 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,720 This is another hot topic. What is the problem with most of 326 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,400 the period products on the market today? 327 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Most period products contain contaminants, right? 328 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,480 So there was a recent study came that came out talking about 329 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,080 heavy metals. I hate to spoil it, but heavy 330 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,960 metals have always been in period products for a long time. 331 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,200 This is just now coming out into the mainstream. 332 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,320 And how, how do they get in there? 333 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,440 What? What's the purpose of heavy 334 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,920 metals in period products? They're not necessarily 335 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,000 intentionally added because they don't impart any benefit, it's 336 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,440 that they are contaminating the materials that are used to make 337 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,520 the tampons and pads. OK. 338 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,880 The the actual manufacturing materials. 339 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Yeah. So the raw materials like the 340 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,240 cotton, the plastics, things like that. 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,640 They just get in. There they're, they get in there 342 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,440 just because. So heavy metals in the are 343 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,680 naturally occurring in the environment, but they can become 344 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,320 more concentrated if you're in an area that has more industrial 345 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:46,160 processes like mining, fracking, any area that uses leaded fuel 346 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,920 that's going to spread lead into the environment, for example. 347 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,040 So there can be a concentration of heavy metals in certain 348 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,040 plants as well. So some plants will just. 349 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,840 They take in more. They'll take in more. 350 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Yeah. What else are in period products 351 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,400 that we don't want in period products? 352 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Phthalates, as we mentioned, OK, usually from the fragrances, any 353 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,480 scented period products are an absolute. 354 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,599 No go the worse. Unless it's like a scented trash 355 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,079 bag. You're like masking an odor with 356 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,880 something that's even worse than the odor itself, right? 357 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,280 So if you can avoid that at all costs, that's the way that I go. 358 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,160 Unless it's an emergency situation, I will not touch a 359 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,319 scented period product. Yeah, But not only that, there 360 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:28,600 was benzene. There were other contaminants in 361 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,800 there. There was a study that found 362 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,400 that women who use conventional tampons had higher levels of 363 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,440 heavy metals in their body and oxidative stress. 364 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,200 So that's a sign of toxicity, right? 365 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,400 Oxidative stress. That's something that we want to 366 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,200 avoid. And there's just a lot of risks 367 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,280 if you're not aware and if you don't know how to choose the 368 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,720 safer period products, there are brands out there that are 369 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,280 testing for this. What are some of the brands that 370 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,720 you like? The one brand that I would go 371 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,640 for if I was using a disposable. I personally use reusable period 372 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,720 products, but if I were to choose a disposable it would be 373 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,960 natural care. OK, so I've I've. 374 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,760 Seen that? Yeah. 375 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,040 So they're organic? Cotton, right? 376 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,200 You want the organic cotton. You want to avoid the plastics 377 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,040 like the applicator tube. If you're using a tampon, you 378 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,760 can't really avoid it altogether. 379 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,120 But if you're choosing disposables, just know that 380 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,720 those are going to be higher risk in general than than 381 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,000 reusables. And it's such an absorbent area 382 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,840 too, right? Exactly like you're it's, it's 383 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,040 in. You're putting something not 384 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,760 only onto your body, but into your system. 385 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,040 Exactly. The vagina is actually a route 386 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,840 of drug delivery because there's a lot of blood flow down there. 387 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,640 The cell does the the lining of the uter of the vagina is 388 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,680 actually quite thin, so chemicals can get in, and then 389 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,920 once they get into your bloodstream, it's almost a 390 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,280 direct hit to your reproductive organs because they're not 391 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,600 getting detoxified by the liver. Right. 392 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:51,320 And so when you mentioned reusable products, tell us a 393 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,560 little bit about that and what are the options there? 394 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,080 So personally I use reusable period underwear and there's 395 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,200 also period pads that are. Brand I. 396 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Use. I use. 397 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,680 What is the brand? Revol Cares is the brand. 398 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,960 And how does that work? I've always wondered this. 399 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,240 I haven't tried period underwear, but it just it 400 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,640 absorbs, absorbs all of it and then just for a full day. 401 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,520 It can depending on depending on your flow. 402 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560 I mean, if I have like a heavier day, I might have to change them 403 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,040 out once. Yeah, but they do hold a lot and 404 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,760 it basically works by they have some absorbent fabric and then 405 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,360 there's a layer of polyurethane that, OK prevents it from the 406 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,840 the liquid from coming through the other side and getting on 407 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,680 your legs. Yeah. 408 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,400 So that's how they work. But the ones that I found are 409 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,160 very comfortable. They're made out of bamboo. 410 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,640 They have the least amount of synthetics. 411 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,880 OK. So I found those to be optimal 412 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,880 for me. I love them. 413 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,520 They work great for me. They might not work for 414 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,680 everyone. So if someone wants something 415 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,960 that is not necessarily allowing the the blood to come out, then 416 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 you can try a period cup, a menstrual cup. 417 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Yeah. Tell us about those. 418 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Yeah. Those medical grade silicone or 419 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,400 platinum cured silicone generally is on the lower end of 420 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,640 the risk spectrum. But we don't really know long 421 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,280 term what they're doing. Yeah. 422 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,720 So even though they might seem safer right now, I can't say if 423 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,680 a study isn't going to come out in a few years that says the the 424 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,520 opposite. Right. 425 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,880 What about the disc? How is that different than a 426 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,160 cup? I think it's similar. 427 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,560 It depends on the material really. 428 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,840 There's some discs I think that are made out of plastic, but you 429 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,200 can also find silicone discs. OK. 430 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,960 And speaking about just products that we use in these highly 431 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,080 sensitive areas, tell our audience a little bit about 432 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,880 toilet paper and the risks of conventional toilet paper. 433 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,480 So similar to what we were talking about, there's a lot of 434 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,920 blood flow down there. And with toilet paper, we use 435 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,440 it, some people use it multiple times a day, right? 436 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,240 You don't necessarily go to the bathroom once a day. 437 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,320 So that's already having an increase in the frequency, which 438 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,000 will impact how much of the chemicals from that paper get 439 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,040 absorbed, but also the fact that there's friction that can also 440 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,280 increase chemical penetration. So these sensitive areas, we 441 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,680 really need to be careful with what we're rubbing or putting, 442 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 putting there because the amount of chemicals that are getting 443 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,960 in, we don't know if they're impacting our health and if they 444 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,800 are toxic chemicals like formaldehyde and dioxins, right? 445 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Bleach, dioxins, chlorines. There's actually studies that 446 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,360 show that if you're using conventional toilet paper, you 447 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:24,960 can actually get a lot of irritation down there. 448 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,840 And why is recycled toilet paper a no no? 449 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Well, not only is it more expensive, but people throw 450 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,600 receipt thermal receipt paper into the recycle bin and that 451 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,760 ends up in recycled toilet paper which. 452 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Is really high in BPA. Exactly. 453 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,880 So you're essentially applying BPA to your private parts? 454 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Yeah, so it sounds like a really good eco friendly option, but 455 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,480 not something you want to do, right? 456 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,000 Wow. So and what's your favorite 457 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,480 toilet paper brand? It's called plant paper and it's 458 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,960 made out of bamboo and it was. There are a lot of bamboo toilet 459 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:02,400 paper brands out there, but this one I found was not bleached, 460 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,440 which it was a plus. And they also shared all their 461 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,720 contaminant test reports with me. 462 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,880 So it's been tested for one for dioxane, formaldehyde, different 463 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,360 things. So that really gives me a lot of 464 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:14,760 Peace of Mind. Yeah, OK. 465 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,880 And we'll put all of these links in the show notes because you 466 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,760 are just like a library of information on on non-toxic 467 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,480 living, which I love as a non-toxic skin care company that 468 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,440 started with non-toxic deodorant. 469 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,160 I'd love to do a deep dive into deodorant specifically and why 470 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080 conventional deodorant, specifically antiperspirants, 471 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,560 are making this infertility epidemic and just poor health 472 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,040 epidemic so much worse. Well, let's first talk about 473 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320 what those are, right? So an antiperspirant is 474 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,200 something that blocks perspiration, and they do this 475 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,240 with the use of aluminum salt. So they physically block the 476 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,120 sweat ducts and prevent sweat from coming out, which come to 477 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,960 find out, sweat is actually a detox pathway. 478 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,800 So this is not a good idea. They don't want to get in the 479 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,640 way of that. Right. 480 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,680 You don't want to block your detox at all. 481 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,680 You want to enhance your detox of anything, right? 482 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,920 So first of all, the aluminum salt, so the aluminum can 483 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,120 actually get absorbed into the breast tissue. 484 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,680 It's been found in breast cancer samples. 485 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,640 Aluminum, a lot of people don't realize actually has estrogenic 486 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,720 properties. And there have been studies 487 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,720 showing that people who use, especially younger girls who use 488 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,880 these antiperspirants, have an increased risk for breast 489 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,960 cancer. Well and parabens too, I think 490 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,400 have studies have shown that 9097% of really high percentage 491 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,360 of tumors sampled breast cancer tumors have had parabens in them 492 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:40,760 also. Right. 493 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,840 There's parabens. There could be many ingredients 494 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,760 in that one antiperspirant that are increasing your risk of 495 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,480 cancer. Yeah, and I've heard you talk 496 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,160 about how conventional deodorant, specifically aluminum 497 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,880 deodorants, actually make you smell worse over time. 498 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,000 Can you touch on that? Yeah. 499 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,320 So there was actually a study that found that when you're 500 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,560 using antiperspirants and you're blocking sweat ducts, you 501 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,240 actually change the microbiome of your underarms and that can 502 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,880 increase the smell, the odor. So you might end up having to 503 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,680 use more and that of course, yeah, the worst possible 504 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,400 outcome. I think we see that a lot too. 505 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,000 People will say, you know, I just have, I'm unique. 506 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,480 I have really bad body odor and I'm, I know that some people 507 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,680 maybe are genetically more prone to have worse Bo than others, 508 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,360 but I think a lot of people think they have worse Bo than 509 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:32,720 they do just because they've been using antiperspirants for 510 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,800 so long that are blocking their detox pathways. 511 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800 They're putting all this junk up there, nothing's getting out 512 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,360 because they're not sweating properly. 513 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,000 And then when they transition to natural deodorant, they might 514 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,800 smell really bad for a couple of weeks, but then things kind of 515 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,600 normalize and level out and they find that they have much less 516 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,360 body odor than they did before. Yeah, that's what happened to 517 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:55,120 me. Yeah. 518 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:59,120 So I stopped using all of the the aerosol deodorant that I 519 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,680 used to swear by. And then. 520 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Oh my. Gosh, I saw an ad the other day 521 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,760 for an aerosol full body deodorant. 522 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,400 Like what? What world are we living in 523 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,120 where we think we need to spray deodorant all over our entire 524 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,800 body? Yeah, actually I have some 525 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,000 thoughts on that. I don't, I don't get it. 526 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,160 Just how about just bathe? Yeah, I mean, I don't really. 527 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,400 I don't see what the reason is. What is the purpose of an all 528 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,360 body deodorant? I think it's ridiculous. 529 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,320 These are the types of products that really just completely make 530 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,160 my blood boil because I can't stand it when people are being 531 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000 deceived and manipulated into buying a product that makes zero 532 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,880 sense. 0. Sense no one has ever needed 533 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,320 this before. No, don't use it now, don't buy 534 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,640 it. It's just a waste of money. 535 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440 What are some of the other problems with deodorant aside 536 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,480 from aluminum? The. 537 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,680 Fragrances, they also have PE GS in them. 538 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760 They also, so which PE GS by the way are a type of glycol and 539 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640 they actually increase chemical penetration, their penetration 540 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,360 enhancers. So imagine you have a deodorant 541 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,960 that has aluminum, salt, fragrances, parabens, and these 542 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,720 PE GS. You're just driving all of those 543 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,160 chemicals into your bloodstream. And how does a how does a P/E G 544 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 show up on a product label? It'll say PEG, it actually says 545 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,680 PEG and then maybe have some numbers next to it, right? 546 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Like a PEG. Dash 8 or something like. 547 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,560 That and then parabens, just so people know, like those will 548 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,760 show up as it'll say paraben, but it'll also say like methyl, 549 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,320 yeah, different, it'll have a different thing, a prefix in. 550 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,880 Front of it, ethyl, methyl butyl, there's a bunch of. 551 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,600 Different ones, right? And then for PFAS forever 552 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 chemicals, how would someone spot those on a product label? 553 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,160 You wouldn't. That's the crazy part. 554 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,720 So there was a study that showed over 90% of products that were 555 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,320 detected to have high levels of PFAS didn't have them on the 556 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480 label. So that's almost all of them. 557 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Wow. Which is absolutely insane. 558 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,920 It's a major loophole in labeling. 559 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,760 The cosmetics industry clearly doesn't have our best interests 560 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,240 if they're intentionally leaving things off the label. 561 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,720 So how would someone know? Well, you can look for telltale 562 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,600 signs like the waterproof long wear yeah, smudge proof, those 563 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,880 types of products, I wouldn't touch those let's. 564 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,680 Shift gears a little bit and talk about something else that 565 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,000 can have long term contact with your body. 566 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,080 What are your thoughts on these beautification treatments like 567 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,480 Botox and fillers? So first of all, Botox comes 568 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,000 from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. 569 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:32,240 It was day one of my toxicology class that I learned that 570 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:38,120 Botulism is the most potent toxin naturally occurring to 571 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,360 man. So I thought to myself, OK, let 572 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:42,800 me file that away. Fast forward a few years later, 573 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,960 people start injecting themselves with it cosmetically. 574 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480 So there are case use cases when people have migraines or 575 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,360 debilitating pain where maybe that's the only option they 576 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:53,880 have. That's not what I'm talking 577 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,280 about. I'm talking about the cosmetic 578 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,880 use of Botox. There are so many studies coming 579 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,560 out, case studies, people coming forward saying that they've had 580 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,400 horrible adverse effects because of cosmetic Botox. 581 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,920 It doesn't just stay in your face. 582 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,480 It can get absorbed into your bloodstream. 583 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,480 It travels different parts of your body. 584 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,520 There's different symptoms that maybe clinicians aren't 585 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,560 recognizing as being connected to the Botox. 586 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,120 I mean, you're injecting a toxin in your face. 587 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:26,320 I don't understand how this is considered safe or how people 588 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040 can ignore that. I personally wouldn't do that. 589 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Yeah, I, I totally agree. And Botox apologists would argue 590 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,800 that like you mentioned, oh, it stays concentrated just to the 591 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,360 general area. But just logically that doesn't 592 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360 make sense. We know the products we apply 593 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,120 get into our bloodstream when they absorb through the surface 594 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,880 of our skin. So when you are injecting 595 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,880 something even deeper, it would only make sense that it just 596 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,440 does not stay concentrated just to that area. 597 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000 And we talked about this on our social media quite a bit. 598 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,720 And every time without fail, we get flooded with messages, 599 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,640 anecdotal stories of people who have had adverse effects from 600 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,400 getting Botox injections. And so I feel like Botox is 601 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,080 going to be the breast implant illness of the next 5 to 10 602 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,360 years. You know, now we are becoming 603 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 aware of the negative effects of having breast implants. 604 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,720 And I think that that will happen with Botox. 605 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,000 I think it's starting to happen but hasn't like fully become 606 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840 well known yet. Yeah, I would probably agree 607 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,520 with you on that, because I think the issue is really for 608 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,440 me, staying away from the invasive procedures unless it's 609 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,720 medically necessary. If that's your only option, 610 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000 that's a different story. Again, if it's a cosmetic, it's 611 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,200 surface level. I think you can get really far. 612 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,720 I mean, I know you can. This is how biology works. 613 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,400 You clean up your insides, it's going to show up on your face. 614 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,160 The aging, the toxins, I mean, all of this, it's all connected 615 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,200 to each other. So once I actually cleaned up my 616 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040 lifestyle, I reverse aged myself. 617 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,760 I have photos of myself when I was sick that I look 10 years 618 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,360 older than I do now. Wow. 619 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,240 So it's, I mean, you can reverse age if you just clean your 620 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800 lifestyle up, yeah. What are some of your favorite 621 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,600 non-toxic like quote Botox alternatives? 622 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,760 I like doing gua sha a lot. Yeah, I like gua sha. 623 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,240 I like doing massage. I do, I like putting avocado 624 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,280 like yogurt masks like food based masks on my face. 625 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,480 Just mix avocado and yogurt. Yeah, and you can add turmeric 626 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,880 in there for brightening. And I've noticed that helps 627 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,880 brighten my dark spots. So as a kid I had chicken pox 628 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,200 scars and my mom would take a piece of fresh turmeric and just 629 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,040 rub it on there. Wow. 630 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,280 And it lightened all the scars. I don't have permanent dark 631 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,960 spots anymore. So you can really. 632 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,280 Go the simplest thing, yeah. Exactly such a big. 633 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Difference I used to make those kinds of masks as a kid. 634 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,400 I was just thinking the other day like I need to start doing 635 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,080 some of that again, like, you know, egg. 636 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,280 I think I would do like egg whites did the avocado thing. 637 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Like there's there's a lot of fun you can have playing around 638 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,600 with like putting food on your face. 639 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880 I wonder what would happen if you put some liver in? 640 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,640 I know I've wondered that too. I want to try it but the smell I 641 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,120 feel like would be a little. That's true. 642 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,640 That's true. Challenging, yeah. 643 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,640 Good point, Good point. When it comes to finding truly 644 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,880 non-toxic products, why are you a firm believer that you don't 645 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,640 need a scientific background to understand labels even though. 646 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,440 A lot of ingredient labels may seem like a foreign language. 647 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,120 You don't need to study chemistry to know what you're 648 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000 buying. And I think that it becomes a 649 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,520 lot easier when you can recognize ingredients on the 650 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,600 label, similar to looking at a food label if it's something 651 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,840 that you just like. If you see BHT, you're like, 652 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880 what is that? That's not a common food, right? 653 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,400 Same thing goes with your beauty and personal care products. 654 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,440 If you can recognize the ingredients on the label, then 655 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,120 you're already in good shape. Yeah, it's kind of just knowing 656 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,080 those red flags to look out for. And then we've talked about some 657 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,960 of them. We talked about, you know, how 658 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,000 parabens will show up on labels, avoiding anything with fragrance 659 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,200 or parfum, avoiding things that say waterproof, long lasting. 660 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000 What are some other common things to to watch out for? 661 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,320 I would say so anything that says just the word organic or 662 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,240 natural or if it says non-toxic without actually being matching 663 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,640 with the ingredient like list. Yeah. 664 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,080 So you always have to read the ingredients. 665 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,600 List anyone? Don't say that right? 666 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200 If you have the most toxic product ever, you can put 667 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,480 non-toxic on there, right? No one's, no one's gonna punish 668 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,040 you for that. Right. 669 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,760 You can put plant based, I mean there's no definition of that. 670 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080 What does that mean, right. So you can put all kinds of 671 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560 stuff and there's so many greenwash brands out there, 672 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520 right? So just read the ingredients 673 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,880 list and that's how you'll know what you're buying. 674 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,920 Yeah, OK. What about toothpaste? 675 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,280 What? What do we look for when it 676 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,680 comes to toothpaste? What do we have avoid and what 677 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,400 do you like to see in a toothpaste? 678 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,320 So first I'll start with the avoid. 679 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640 So I avoid fluoride, yes, just because of the neurotoxicity 680 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,120 concerns and the fact that studies have found that 681 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,480 hydroxyapatite is just as effective at preventing 682 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600 cavities. What is Hydroxyapatite? 683 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,040 It's. Actually similar to a substance 684 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,720 that we have in our teeth naturally occurring. 685 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,880 So it helps to re mineralize the teeth and it doesn't come with 686 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,200 the neurotoxicity risks that fluoride does. 687 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840 Are dentists using that yet? Cuz I remember as a kid going to 688 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,320 the dentist and just having fluoride like smear my TPS at 689 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,880 the end of every visit. Is that still happening or have 690 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,920 they kind of wised up to that? It's still happening, so parents 691 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,680 have to be diligent. I myself look for a dentist that 692 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,680 isn't doing that and who's open to other alternative options. 693 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,960 So other things that I like to avoid in toothpaste are sodium 694 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,720 lauryl sulfate, which is actually known to destroy the 695 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,720 tissue inside of our mouth and gums and cause canker sores. 696 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040 Wow. And it's in like a lot of two 697 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,600 things, it's. It's to provide the foaming 698 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280 action, because people associate foaming with cleaning, right? 699 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640 You don't actually need that. It's like the sudsy soaps. 700 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,760 People want that like sudsy, squeaky clean feel. 701 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,000 But really, that can wipe out your skin's microbiome and have 702 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040 a really negative impact on the health of your skin, right? 703 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,920 Exactly. What about sunscreen? 704 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,320 What do you avoid in sunscreen? I avoid the synthetic UV 705 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,080 sunscreen filters like Avobenzone, aveobenzone, 706 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,560 oxybenzone, homosalate, octosalate, things like that, 707 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,600 Octocrylene because those have been shown to absorb into the 708 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,880 bloodstream and we don't know the long term health effects of 709 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,719 what that's doing to people. And not only that, if we're 710 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,199 using aerosol sunscreen, most of it's not even getting on your 711 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,400 body. If you ever see anyone applying 712 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480 it, most of it's just flying. It's just a big. 713 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,040 Cloud, big, big cloud of right aerosol spray and you can smell 714 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,199 it from like 20 yards away. Yeah, it's become a real issue. 715 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,199 Even going to the beach or public places, that's all you 716 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,639 can smell sometimes. Offensive. 717 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,480 It is. I think. 718 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,600 I think we should really put some restrictions on that 719 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,320 because I agree, it's not even effective if it's not getting on 720 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,520 your skin and people don't rub it in, so you're not getting an 721 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,920 even layer anyway. Right. 722 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680 So then you're just inhaling so much, right, too? 723 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Which is a huge issue. Yeah. 724 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,800 So you're just, you just end up using more. 725 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,880 So I think cosmetic manufacturers are genius, you 726 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,360 know, if they're trying to make profit, which they probably are, 727 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,640 to just make a product that people have to use a whole lot 728 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,520 of just to get some kind of production. 729 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,240 Yeah, yeah. What sunscreen brands do you 730 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:22,640 like? Oh that's a good question. 731 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,680 I have been using Dakota tallow. It's a type of tallow based 732 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,440 sunscreen that I found I really like. 733 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,760 Cool, we're coming out with a tallow based. 734 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,120 Sunscreen perfect yeah I'm excited we'll. 735 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,560 Send you some design. Great. 736 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,800 We have a lot of moms in our community with young children, 737 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,160 and how are children at a disadvantage when it comes to 738 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,640 detoxing from a lot of the toxins that are in the products 739 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,080 that they use and just the products that all of us use? 740 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,880 Kids are just smaller than adults, so already, pound for 741 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,640 pound, the amount of toxins that get into their system will 742 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,360 disproportionately affect them. So meaning that they #1 they're 743 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,480 small and they can't detoxify and they're. 744 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Growing just because they're detox pathways aren't fully 745 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,400 established yet. Yeah, exactly. 746 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,600 They're not fully developed and they're still growing, so any 747 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,200 toxic insult that happens can change their DNA and 'cause 748 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,000 their bodies to change permanently. 749 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200 That's terrible. So even more important to avoid 750 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,720 toxins in the home with young kids around. 751 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:28,480 What are some ways that you can try to optimize detoxification 752 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,960 when it comes to young kids? Definitely avoiding the 753 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,840 processed foods I see with so many kids. 754 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,920 They're just constantly eating processed foods with the 755 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,840 artificial flavors and the dyes and excess amounts of sugar. 756 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,000 Probably more kids eat more of that than adults do because all 757 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,840 of the products that are marketed towards kids are just 758 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,320 filled with sugar and food dyes and everything that they 759 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,880 shouldn't be eating. Exactly. 760 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,280 Everything that they shouldn't be eating. 761 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,680 So avoiding processed foods, giving your kids whole, 762 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120 nutritious, nutrient dense foods, that's key. 763 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,280 And then of course, avoiding the endocrine disruptors in their in 764 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,320 their products. And a lot of young kids get 765 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,640 hooked on these fragrance laden, you know, sparkly, you know, 766 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,880 products that you see marketed to children their. 767 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,560 Palate so that they don't want to eat the Whole Foods right to 768 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,120 become addicted to these processed foods exactly at a 769 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160 young age. Yes, and they also get addicted 770 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,640 to fragrances. Scented this, scented that. 771 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,280 I see that all the time. Interesting. 772 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400 It's actually a big challenge with my kids who are now school 773 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,240 aged. Yeah, being amongst their 774 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,880 friends, seeing hell, my friend has, you know, scented lip balm. 775 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,680 Scented this, scented. Why can't I have that? 776 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,440 Right. Yeah, that's hard. 777 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,560 I like to give my kids like Epsom salt baths sometimes. 778 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,440 Sometimes I'll let them come in the sauna with me just for like 779 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,400 10-15 minutes because in my mind, I just want them. 780 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000 I want them to be able to at least kind of give them a chance 781 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,360 to sweat, you know, and at least detoxify that way because a lot 782 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,680 of the more advanced, like, detox methods are just not 783 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440 appropriate for kids. But there's some things that 784 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,000 that we can do to help with that too. 785 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,360 Yeah, just. Let them run around. 786 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,200 That really just helps with so much. 787 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,160 Yeah, being in nature. Being in the earth, Being in 788 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,600 nature? Yes. 789 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,200 Getting natural sunlight. Water instead of juice, Yeah, 790 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:19,360 those types of things help so much. 791 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,640 Yeah, they make a big difference. 792 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560 What about the fire retardant epidemic? 793 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,760 There is fire retardant in a lot of things, sprayed on rugs in 794 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,480 our homes, sprayed on even a lot of clothing. 795 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,600 I think that it has to be sprayed on kids pajamas or there 796 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:41,200 has to be a sticker, A tag on it that says that there is a risk 797 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,600 of like there has to be a warning label if fire retardant 798 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,520 is not sprayed on it, right, right. 799 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,920 And so I always love it when I see kids pajamas with that big 800 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,920 tag that that big like warning tag that, you know, it's, it's 801 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,800 flammable or whatever. I'm like, yes, good. 802 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640 That's the one that I want. I don't want the one that has 803 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,400 been sprayed with fire retardant. 804 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,720 But why is fire retardant sprayed on so many things? 805 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,080 Yeah, it's basically just a liability thing that companies 806 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,640 just want to cover themselves in case accidents happen. 807 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,400 They don't want to get sued and that someone comes back and says 808 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,080 I caught on fire because this couch was not treated. 809 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,400 So it's it's mainly just to protect themselves, the 810 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,000 companies. Really. 811 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080 Yeah. And I think there was a lot of 812 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,880 lobbying that the fire retardant manufacturers did in order to 813 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,960 make it a law that it has to be sprayed on your couch, on your 814 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,640 rug, on your car seat in order for them to sell more of it. 815 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,920 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that, that it's happened so 816 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,160 many times in various industries, salt, sugar, 817 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,760 lobbying. Because I don't think at the end 818 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,440 of the day, any lives are being saved because their couch wasn't 819 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,360 sprayed with fire retardant. Yeah. 820 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000 I don't know the exact stats or numbers on that, but I mean, I 821 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,800 don't know anyone who's, you know, Couch has caught on fire 822 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,280 or is that spontaneously combusted? 823 00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,320 I don't know. I personally know. 824 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,080 No, Yeah. So totally. 825 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,360 What about some other toxins in the home? 826 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,480 How? What are some things to look out 827 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,520 for in terms of creating a healthy home? 828 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,080 We'll definitely get your water and your air quality right, 829 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,600 because those are the basic fundamentals that every person 830 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,040 needs. We need to have clean air so 831 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,840 we're not inhaling a bunch of toxins. 832 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,000 We need clean water. Yeah, that's just everyone needs 833 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,280 that. And how do you optimize air 834 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,240 quality in your house? So first of all, removing the 835 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:30,600 sources of air pollution like fragrances, cleaning products 836 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,440 like you said, the flame retardants, those types of 837 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,840 additional chemicals, things like synthetic pressed wood 838 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,080 furniture that off gases and releases formaldehyde. 839 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,920 Try to minimize those things because when you don't create 840 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,720 the pollution, then you don't have to remove the pollution, 841 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,520 right? Yeah, opening your windows, 842 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,400 that's massive. Most people don't open their 843 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200 windows. Especially take much, right? 844 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,600 Right. It's just like 10 minutes in the 845 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,840 morning, 10 minutes in the evening or something like that. 846 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,440 Any amount, yeah, is helpful. I mean, I have relatives in 847 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,760 Germany and even in the dead of winter, it's freezing outside. 848 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,880 You open your windows after a long night because the air is 849 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,000 stale to refresh the air. And it does so much for your 850 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,640 health and well-being to just have that bit of fresh air. 851 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,760 Yeah. What about air purifiers? 852 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,520 Do you have a favorite brand? Yeah, I like Air Doctor a lot. 853 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,240 So I have a few of those units in my home and they're really 854 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,040 effective. I I find that I think they're 855 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,720 great. Do you ever recommend the box 856 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,200 fan method? You can, yeah, if you're on a 857 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600 budget. If that's all that you can get, 858 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,560 then a box fan with a HEPA filter attached to it is just as 859 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,480 effective. Yeah. 860 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,360 And what about plants, house plants? 861 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,520 Do you believe those have a big impact on air quality? 862 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,480 They don't have as big of an impact as people might think 863 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,880 because again, I read all the studies. 864 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,800 Yeah, there was a study that found you need a large number of 865 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,720 plants in your home to actually purify to the extent as an air 866 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,160 purifier would. OK. 867 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,520 Not saying that they're not helpful, right? 868 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920 But they're not as helpful as people think. 869 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,080 They're not the magic bullet, right? 870 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:05,920 Right. So having house plants is 871 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,880 amazing just for health and well-being, but it's it isn't 872 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,600 necessarily, like you said, the magic bullet. 873 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,240 Yeah, what about when thinking about non-toxic cleaning 874 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:18,840 products for the home, What do you what do you avoid with 875 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,360 household cleaning products and and what do you like? 876 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,200 I avoid most things that are in pretty much everything that's in 877 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,840 the store because they usually have a lot of fragrances in 878 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,320 them. They're releasing toxic 879 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,920 chemicals into the air. If something smells very strong 880 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,560 of a chemical smell, then that's a bad sign, yeah. 881 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120 And even when they're closed, they're still releasing VOC's 882 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,520 and impacting, negatively impacting the air quality in 883 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,680 your home. Yes, exactly. 884 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,960 So even just having them there is not good. 885 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080 And you can, that's obvious. If you walk through the cleaning 886 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,080 aisle at the store, you smell everything. 887 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,320 Everything's closed, but you're still smelling it. 888 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,600 So it's powerful stuff, not in a good way. 889 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,920 I love branch basics. Do you use branch basics? 890 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,320 Yes, I like branch basics. I also use another brand called 891 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Miliora because it's entirely plastic free. 892 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,920 How do you manage non-toxic living and doing everything 893 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,920 within your control to optimize your health without obsessing 894 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,360 over things that are out of your control? 895 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,840 Well, first, I think it's important to remind ourselves 896 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,800 that you can't control things outside of your home. 897 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,440 Like, period. You just can't. 898 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,520 There's so much happening outside that the only place you 899 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080 really have most control is inside your home. 900 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:33,880 I really think that people can, it can get to a point where we 901 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,080 become orthorexic and start becoming fearful of things that 902 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,960 shouldn't necessarily cause fear. 903 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,760 So fearing a Whole Foods should never be feared. 904 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,280 You know, that that type of thing, I think is something 905 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,480 really important to remind ourselves of because it can be 906 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,520 easy to think, Oh my gosh, this bottle, this cap, everything, 907 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480 you know, and it you just can't live then and the stress itself 908 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,160 is toxic. Right, right. 909 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,320 So what are some like free things that people can do to 910 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,200 optimize their health, optimize their detox pathways? 911 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,640 I know that you, you've talked about, you know, taking your, 912 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,160 your shoes off when you get home is a really easy thing that you 913 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,400 can do to improve the health of your home. 914 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920 Like what are some other just like easy simple hacks that 915 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,440 people can keep top of mind? Yeah, the first one would be 916 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,160 taking off your shoes. The second one would be opening 917 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,560 the windows. And I would like to even get 918 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,800 outside, do some grounding, get in touch with nature and really, 919 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,960 you know, try to regulate your hormones in that way. 920 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,760 Because if you are being exposed to endocrine disruptors like 921 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,160 most of us are, we can't avoid everything, Then you're at least 922 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,520 giving your body a better chance at stabilizing itself. 923 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,760 Because I feel like we're constantly bombarded by all 924 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,160 different types of stimuli, substances that we can't 925 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,720 control. So I think the things that we 926 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:56,040 can do that are very basic and almost. 927 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,160 And they're free. Yeah. 928 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,480 So getting sunlight, getting your feet on the soil, drinking 929 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,760 enough clean water, getting enough sleep. 930 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,560 I think a lot of the basics are kind of overlooked sometimes. 931 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,960 Yeah, when you take care of the basics, a lot of the other 932 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960 things kind of start to fall into place. 933 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,760 Exactly. And just like having a less is 934 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,040 more mentality when it comes to a lot of things, when it comes 935 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,560 to the products we use, when it comes to food, just like the 936 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,640 simpler the better. Yeah, I love that perspective so 937 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,920 much because I think things can get really over complicated with 938 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,480 those unnecessary products like body deodorant, right? 939 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,680 Yeah, you don't need those. Yeah, just stick to what you 940 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,480 need. Right, Exactly what are some 941 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440 things that you like to do to optimize detoxification for 942 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,240 yourself? I like to do sauna. 943 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,680 I love sweating, just I was doing hot yoga for a while, but 944 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,200 that got kind of tough for me. So I like to just do sauna at 945 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,120 home. I love sauna. 946 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,240 I like doing yoga on the grass barefoot. 947 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,240 That's really relaxing for me. That also helps, you know, with 948 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:56,800 detox and everything like that. So those are the main things I 949 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480 like to do and I like doing weight training, weight lifting, 950 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,600 those types of things. Weightlifting is amazing and it 951 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,120 doesn't get enough credit as like a health practice. 952 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,480 I feel like a lot of people think of weightlifting as as 953 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:15,280 purely like body composition related, but it is so good for 954 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,040 your hormones, so good for just supporting your body and 955 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,600 longevity. As we get older, it just feels 956 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,800 really good. Yeah, it actually increases our 957 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,160 glutathione production. So glutathione is a master 958 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,160 antioxidant detoxifier. When you exercise, glutathione 959 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,720 goes up. OK, I didn't know that. 960 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,640 Yeah. So supplement with glutathione 961 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,520 also. I don't. 962 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,360 So you just get it naturally. You just prompt your body to 963 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,640 make more of its own glutathione. 964 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,840 Right, so I reduce and remove toxins, right because toxins 965 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,920 deplete glutathione. So if you prevent the loss of 966 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,520 glutathione then you're already in better shape. 967 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,920 And then if you provide the building blocks like sulphur 968 00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,040 rich foods, green tea, eggs, I like meat, dairy, those types of 969 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,360 things help to increase school design too. 970 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,640 Love that. OK, now I'm really excited for 971 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,680 this next this next part. So I'm going to give you a this 972 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,760 or that quiz. Are you ready? 973 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,160 OK, and this is all preferences. There's no right or wrong 974 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,000 answer. OK, sounds good, but I'm I'm 975 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,280 excited to hear your answers. Would you rather live in a moldy 976 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,920 house or in a house with lead paint? 977 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:31,600 Oh, probably. Oh, it's hard to say. 978 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,280 I would, I mean definitely neither, but I guess lead 979 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,720 because the effects of mold can be really, really long lasting. 980 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,640 I think with lead at least there are are ways that we can help to 981 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,440 support our body, but that's a really tough one. 982 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,440 I mean, I don't want to choose either of course. 983 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,720 I'm trying to just like, give you like paint out your worst 984 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,160 nightmare. With all these questions. 985 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,680 Would you rather use non organic tampons or non organic toilet 986 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,720 paper? Non. 987 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:01,400 Organic toilet paper because it's not going internally. 988 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,840 Yeah, would you rather wear fragrance every day or use a 989 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,000 toxic laundry detergent? Oh, they're the same thing. 990 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,960 It's kind of the same thing. Yeah, a little bit. 991 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,440 I guess the laundry detergent because in yeah, that's really 992 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,920 hard. Neither you can't say neither. 993 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,000 I no I'll. Say all right, all right. 994 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,840 Probably the laundry detergent one, because actually you can 995 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,040 put your clothes in the sun and it'll. 996 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,040 Get rid of that kind of neutralizes that. 997 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,920 So you would like use the non, you'd use the toxic laundry 998 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,680 detergent, but just like go outside at the beginning of 999 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,240 every day, Yeah. I'll try to air it. 1000 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,600 Out. OK, fair enough. 1001 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,360 Would you rather wear red lipstick every day with red dye? 1002 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,760 Of course. Or use toxic toothpaste with 1003 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:48,680 fluoride. Well, I can't, you can't avoid 1004 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,240 using toothpaste. You need, I mean, I, I use 1005 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,720 toothpaste, I don't necessarily wear lipsticks. 1006 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,160 So I guess I'd I guess I have to choose the toothpaste one 1007 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,240 unfortunately. Yeah, that's a tough one. 1008 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,000 Would you rather burn a pumpkin spice candle or drink a pumpkin 1009 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,280 spice latte? Oh, these are really hard. 1010 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,880 Questions. I hate it was so. 1011 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,440 Fun coming up with these. God. 1012 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:18,720 OK, I'll probably drink the pumpkin spice latte because 1013 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,000 inhaling stuff is much worse than ingestion. 1014 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,040 OK, why is that? Because you can get things 1015 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,000 directly into your bloodstream and they'll go to your brain 1016 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,160 through the lungs. So I mean can I open a window? 1017 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,400 Nope, no window. OK, then it'll be the Pumpkin 1018 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,320 spice latte. Would you rather drink water out 1019 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,520 of a plastic bottle or drink standard tap water in a glass 1020 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,080 cup? Oh, probably the water bottle 1021 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,600 maybe. Yeah, I think I would too. 1022 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,440 Yeah, tap water is just really bad. 1023 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,240 Yeah, tap water is bad. It's really bad. 1024 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,080 Would you rather wear outside shoes into the house or never 1025 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:05,840 clean the dust in your house? Oh, those are really bad. 1026 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,280 You really stumped me on a lot of these. 1027 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,200 I mean, it's I cannot just, I can't wear shoes in the house. 1028 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,560 I just cannot. There's just every fiber of my 1029 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,680 beak I. Cannot wear shit now. 1030 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,240 Yeah, Yeah. Would you rather eat eggs cooked 1031 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:23,000 on a nonstick pan or eat bacon cooked on aluminum foil? 1032 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,200 Probably the eggs on the nonstick. 1033 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,480 Yeah. Because unless there's a crack 1034 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,200 or a chip on the nonstick then they shouldn't. 1035 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,720 Then the Teflon shouldn't go into the food as much. 1036 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,960 OK. But the aluminum for sure would 1037 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,080 be leaching. It would definitely leach. 1038 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,400 The aluminum would definitely leach. 1039 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,800 Although, yeah, I don't know. Those are tough. 1040 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,080 Those are tough. What kind of cookware do you use 1041 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,920 in your home? I use pure ceramic cookware, so 1042 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,760 it's not coated, it's a solid piece of ceramic. 1043 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,840 What brand is it? It's extrema. 1044 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,480 OK, forgot to ask you that earlier. 1045 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,560 Well, thank you so much for joining us. 1046 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,360 You are just, you have so much knowledge on non-toxic living 1047 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,160 and not just the problems, but also the solutions. 1048 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,760 And I really appreciate that perspective and I think our 1049 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,080 listeners will too. So thank you so much for coming 1050 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,560 on the show. Where can people follow along 1051 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,280 with you and continue to learn from everything that you're 1052 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,800 doing and sharing? I'm on Instagram, I'm on 1053 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,800 YouTube. You can find me at Doctor Yvonne 1054 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,240 Burkhart and you can also check out my website 1055 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,360 doctoryvonneburkhart.com. Amazing. 1056 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,760 Thank you. Thank you so much.