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My husband gave me the gift of a
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on, turn it on. 
I turned it on and I felt the 

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energy and it was so strong that
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from me. 
Today on Grounded Wellness, 

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we're tackling one of the most 
invisible but powerful forces 

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shaping your health Technology. 
We're electrical. 

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Beings, of course we're going to
have reaction, and now we know 

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that we do. 
Our guest, August Bryce, 

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developed electromagnetic 
sensitivity over 25 years ago. 

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What damaged her health later 
became her mission, exposing how

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Emfs, blue light and screen 
addiction quietly disrupt our 

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sleep, hormones and focus. 
The reason that I'm concerned is

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because now it's been linked to 
so many health issues. 

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She founded Tech Wellness to 
give families simple and science

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backed tips to thrive in a 
digital world. 

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I wanted to offer things that I 
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too. 
And what you can do to protect 

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yourself, starting right now. 
Let's dig in August. 

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Thank you so much for being 
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I can't wait to dive into this 
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I want to tackle what EMF's are 
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mysterious, invisible threat. 
What are they really, and why 

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should we care about them? 
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Well, EMF stands for 
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there's a whole big spectrum and
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And we can talk about that later
because really what's important 

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to this conversation and what we
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And the reason the words EMF 
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of all the wireless energy 
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And this wireless EMF comes from
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the cell phone towers, even the 
thermostat in your hallway might

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have these invisible waves of 
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You can't see them or smell them
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And so I'd like to think about 
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So say that at the very tip of 
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ember is and the smoke comes out
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Think about that being the EMF 
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anything that you have. 
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antenna and very powerful. 
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dissipates the further and 
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And so now the EMF is in the air
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environmental ambient level. 
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And the reason that I'm 
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been linked to so many health 
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It's been linked to cancer, it's
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been linked to hormone issues, 
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In fact, the person who first 
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hypersensitivity, which is EHS, 
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allergic to EMF, found that they
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dermatitis and this is over 25 
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He discovered this Ulay 
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determined this new ailment 
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actually feel the energy. 
So, and you are one of these 

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people. 
I actually am. 

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Yeah, yes, tell. 
Us about the first time that you

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actually noticed that you felt 
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EMF's. 
That first time was the first 

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time that I got a cell phone. 
My husband gave me the gift of 

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for Christmas of a cell phone 
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I turned it on and I felt the 

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energy that I put into my head 
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actually had to get it away from
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So this was a flip phone or the 
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Model yeah, it was a flip phone,
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So it was one of those huge ones
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But I was so excited to have my 
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feel it. 
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away and be yelling into it and 
you know, it was just so weird 

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to me that nobody else could 
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It was like I go oh, does that 
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They're like, no, that doesn't 
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So that's when I discovered 
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me, right. 
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but then I also found out that I
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energy, including the Wi-Fi. 
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how not so funny, but we were 
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So it wasn't unusual. 
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wired wireless energy that goes 
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And then I was in my living room
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every time I went in there. 
And my husband said, hey, honey,

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let's watch a show. 
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anymore. 
I, I just, I get these 

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headaches. 
I think there's something wrong 

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with the couch. 
Couch is moldy or cash has 

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chemicals. 
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so sorry. 
I put a Wi-Fi behind the TVI 

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said, why did you do that? 
How could you say this? 

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I didn't really understand how 
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Wow. 
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And so he bought me a remote. 
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could turn off the Wi-Fi. 
Are there, have you met a lot of

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other people like you that are 
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something that is just super 
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No, unfortunately when it, when 
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to figure out what it was and 
learning all about 

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electromagnetic fields and in 
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information carrying right away.
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And when I was learning about 
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people who had EHS in Europe. 
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the population had it. 
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I heard why they got it and how 
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or one amazing dose that they 
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got a new powerful Wi-Fi, you 
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driving through their head. 
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And today Magda Havis is really 
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Who is this Magda Havis? 
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And she says that up to 30% of 
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there's way too much of. 
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sensitive, but maybe they don't 
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so desensitized to it and that's
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I mean, I know I can think of 
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that feeling like you just 
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driving through your head. 
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college specifically that I 
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on my phone at the same time and
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oof, this like shooting kind of 
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experienced something like that,
but maybe just don't even think 

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about it and just kind of plug 
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smart, listening to it is even 
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experiencing, the palpitations 
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oh, I'm just nervous. 
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to the EMF or electrical beings.
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We know one of the mechanisms 
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our cells when they're exposed 
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wireless energy. 
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this, and especially the cells 
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nervous system, the voltage 
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these IR cells, have these ion 
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open and close and let all the 
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the calcium, all the things that
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God gave us to operate properly.
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So we're ending up with this 
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causing oxidative stress. 
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things that cause oxidative 
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antioxidants that can be 
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These type of cells are most 
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These voltage gated ion channels
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nervous system and we're seeing 
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I think that that connects. 
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mechanism described like that. 
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So like we want healthy cells to

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become healthy individuals. 
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inundating our cells with these 
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them, of course it's going to 
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nervous system and everything. 
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your phone on speaker far away. 
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never, ever, ever put that phone
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So speaker works great too. 
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offering those to people and 
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privacy issues because I could 
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the wireless side of technology,
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So I partnered with the woman 
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addiction and presented it to 
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a diagnosis. 
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You're way ahead of the. 
Game I wanted I wanted to offer 

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things that I found were helpful
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it in in a truthful but non 
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fear is worse than in anything 
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causes. 
Also bad for the nervous system.

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So I just want people to become 

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aware and like Taylor, Duke 
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When you know you do better. 
What is the biggest myth about 

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Emfs and technology that you 
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Oh, that, that just because you 
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because the government knows 
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just because it comes in 
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much fun and everyone has one, 
doesn't mean it was ever tested 

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for safety. 
It was never tested to be a 

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consumer product. 
Your mobile phone Really Never. 

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What was it tested for? 
It was what was a military 

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application and it just became 
something that then you put in 

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your car and that was very 
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Someone figured out how to take 
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hands and it just took off. 
And so it never had any testing.

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And the test that they do apply 
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SAR. 
They say, oh, it's got high SAR.

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into tissues. 
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rated for their SAR, their heat 
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your tissues. 
And that's a concern that the 

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biggest concern with this man 
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that it is non ionizing 
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combination of waves that are 
polarized has this impact on our

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bodies. 
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research studies that are 
linking EMF to all kinds of 

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different health issues, like I 
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Is the cell phone industry 
actively trying to cover up that

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information or downplay that 
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Well, if you ask me, I think 
there is an intentional effort 

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to absolutely hide what is the 
truth starting starting way back

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when they first came out. 
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phone a year later, a man made 
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starting to think of his name, 
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against the cell phone 
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wife died of brain cancer from 
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Well, he made this announcement 
on it was called Barry King Live

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and it was a huge, huge, huge 
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industry took notice. 
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a big study. 
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independent study and prove that
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our cell phones. 
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industry called the CTIA, the 
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George Carlo to run the wireless
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And there were $25 million that 
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mice to see how they reacted to 
cell phones. 

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Funded by the cell phone 
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Funded by the cell phone 
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Just want to make sure everyone 
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Funded by the cell phone 
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independent research. 
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who ran the study got into it 
about four years, he wrote a 

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letter to AT&T and all of the 
other there was LA cellular, all

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the CE OS of all the cell phone 
companies. 

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Very long letter. 
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it's in, it's the letters in the
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we need, we're seeing things 
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a step back. 
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yet, but we need to, we need to 
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exactly what's happening. 
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protection means letting 
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their own decision and judge the
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So basically he was sounding the
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good. 
Yes, this doesn't look like it's

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a safe thing for people to be 
using. 

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Maybe yes. 
And so we need to warn people 

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and what happened to him. 
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his research and on the day he 
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research, they let him go and he
never ever presented that 

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research. 
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The research now can be found. 
It's I think it's in the Library

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of Congress. 
It's in some government holding 

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has it. 
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heart tumors and brain tumors 
has absolutely come true in this

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latest global research where 
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did an analysis of 52 really 
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certainty of evidence is high 
that being exposed to EMF 

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radiation from your wireless 
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This is a big statement. 
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organization that in 2011 said, 
oh, it's a possible carcinogen. 

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I would say once that statement 
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is a probable carcinogen. 
It is a carcinogen if it's 

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causing brain cancer. 
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And that statement was made 
after looking at 52 research 

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studies. 
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know, drunk driving is a high 
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risk. 
Well, EMF and brain cancer. 

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EMF high risk so. 
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you're saying that is Airpods, 
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I mean, if cell phones alone are
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directly into the ears so close 
to the brain, I mean, that's got

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to be even exponentially worse. 
I think it is. 

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We don't have a ton of research 
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know Bluetooth is getting more 
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the generations of it go on. 
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And we know for sure that 
healthy men who were under 4012,

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1/2% of them who the more they 
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excuse me, the more they use 
their earbuds, not a brand, just

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earbuds, the more likely they 
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A full 12 1/2% more. 
Wow. 

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That's a really good indication 
because men under 40 don't 

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typically get thyroid nodules. 
That's a old person's ailment. 

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Interesting. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Are there particular tech habits

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that are particularly disruptive
to sleep or mental health? 

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Oh, that's a good question. 
I think so. 

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I think scrolling before bed, 
that's probably one of the worst

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things. 
See. 

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On so many levels, right. 
I mean, it's the only like it's 

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the EMF, yes. 
Like the just, you know, 

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dopamine hits that you're 
getting that are all like all of

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those things together are just 
promoting like awakeness and not

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sleep. 
That's a bad tech habit, just 

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like waking up and looking at 
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The first thing we should do 
when we wake up is go outside 

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and look at the natural light. 
Wake our body up naturally 

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instead of getting this major 
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screens. 
So yeah, I would say that's a 

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very bad tech habit. 
How do you encourage people to 

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like, wind down with their 
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Well, I really, I think my 
program is absolutely no screens

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after 8:00 PM, even your TV. 
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blocking glasses. 
Try to block all the try to just

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mimic the rhythm of the earth 
right when it gets dark, then 

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put your dark glasses on. 
You don't need to see any blue 

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light then. 
And of course, no phones in your

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bedroom, no screens in your 
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I think that's the healthiest 
way to wind down and actually 

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get the sleep that your body was
designed to have in the 

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melatonin because you know, this
all is about your melatonin 

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production. 
And I do want to point out right

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now that was sleep. 
Even EMF has been found just by 

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itself, not the blue light. 
The EMF has been found to affect

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your melatonin production and 
the release of the melatonin, 

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lowering melatonin. 
Wow. 

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with blue light, that blue light
after dark can inhibit 

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melatonin. 
But you're saying that EMF's can

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do the same thing even without 
the blue light, even if you're 

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wearing blue lockers? 
Yes, this wonderful woman did 

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the study and she also, she also
points out in the study that she

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noticed that the rats were 
having like anxiety behavior 

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just with the cell phone 
radiation. 

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Do you think that EMF's are 
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infertility epidemic that we're 
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Oh, I absolutely do, because 
it's in the research. 

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First of all, Kaiser Permanente 
did a huge study with women and 

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found the more exposure they had
to any electronics, including 

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wireless, the greater their 
chance of miscarriage. 

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So that's a big one, right? 
And then we know that I think it

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was a few years ago they did a 
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sperm counts were down 50% 
globally. 

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That's. 
Huge. 

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That's huge. 
And so there are studies that 

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show very, very good studies and
a number of different studies 

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that this man made EMF, wireless
radiation effects, sperm 

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motility. 
So I think that knowing that 

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without a doubt that I would 
absolutely, if I was a man who 

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wanted to have a child, I would 
try to keep that phone out of my

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pocket for sure and away from me
as much as possible. 

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Because we really don't 
understand if it's the the 

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mechanism of harm, if it's 
because it's right on a certain 

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place or because you're exposed 
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You know, we're holistic beings.
And if you think about smoke, it

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would affect us, you know, 
holistically. 

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And I do like to use that 
analogy because it's easier to 

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understand, because it feels 
harmless, doesn't it? 

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Yeah, you can't see it. 
And I think that's why a lot of 

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people are so reluctant to take 
this seriously because it it is 

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invisible. 
It's not something that we can 

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see. 
Some of us can sense it. 

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And I think a lot more people 
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were aware of the of the 
dangers. 

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But yeah, I think it's like an 
easy thing to ignore or dismiss 

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also in the name of convenience,
because we all use our devices 

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so often to do so many things 
and they are convenient, but it 

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comes at a cost for sure. 
Absolutely. 

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And This is why I'm so happy 
that I'm here sharing with your 

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wonderful audience all this 
information. 

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Because if you are aware and if 
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think of it just like any other 
toxin. 

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It's a tech toxin. 
And you know you can't avoid it 

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all the time, but at least in 
your home, you know you can 

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create a safe, wonderful, 
protected environment where you 

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don't have to have it. 
OK, Going back to what you 

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mentioned earlier about tech and
EMF's increasing the instance of

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miscarriage. 
I, I, I don't know, maybe 

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intuitively knew when I was 
pregnant that I wanted to be 

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extra careful about protecting 
myself, protecting my belly, my 

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baby from EMF's. 
And so I used a blanket on my 

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belly whenever I was using 
technology. 

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But I've also heard you talk 
about how the blankets may not 

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actually be the best thing 
because they can reflect the 

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EMF's onto like if it's on the 
belly, it could be reflected 

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onto, I don't know, like the, 
the face, the, you know, the 

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chest or, or other areas. 
Tell us about that. 

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There's two things about that. 
So we're not sure if it's in 

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your blood and how it's going to
affect the baby. 

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I, I think it's great. 
First of all that you're trying 

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to do some sort of protection 
obviously and the blankets do 

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work. 
They will block a good mic. 

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It will will block the EMF 
radiation from the phone that 

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you're holding to directly under
it. 

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But what about all the parts 
that are Unix that are uncovered

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are exposed, right? 
So you've got your thyroid, 

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you've got your eyes, you've got
your nose, you've got your 

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brain. 
It's not just stopping there, 

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it's going into your blood, 
right? 

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It's affecting your cells. 
So it's a. 

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Smells, travel, I would say that
it probably is. 

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And so you've got to think about
that and then exactly what you 

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said about reflecting what 
happens is this material has 

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metal in it and Emfs are 
electronic. 

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So think of electricity against 
metal. 

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It's bouncing. 
A little bit of it gets absorbed

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depending on the material, but a
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And when it reflects, it'll 
bounce off metal anywhere in the

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building and it will come back. 
And a lot of times it 

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multiplies. 
And so you worry about the 

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people around you. 
You worry about the parts that 

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are uncovered being exposed to 
more than you would have been if

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you had that phone on. 
But don't you ever even hold the

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phone while you're pregnant? 
Please keep it as far away from 

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your belly as possible unless 
it's on air airplane mode 

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because this is a critical, 
critical, critical time from 16 

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weeks in utero until your baby 
is 2 years old and it's going 

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through the synaptogenesis. 
There is such a high risk of 

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autism because of the exposure 
to EMF. 

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So says a wonderful research 
study by Martin Paul. 

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Interesting. 
Yes. 

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So we just heard about Tylenol, 
yes. 

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The risks with autism, yes. 
Why isn't this being talked 

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about more? 
Well, Martin, Paul's done a 

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wonderful study and it's and I'd
love to share it with your 

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audience. 
It's. 

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Yeah, we goes through. 
Yeah, it goes through the six 

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ways it can affect the six 
functions that happen. 

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It's very detailed. 
And if I were pregnant or hoping

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to be, I would certainly 
consider the study and think 

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about it. 
And I did a video of my 

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daughter. 
I have a little 6 month old 

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grandbaby and my daughter I was 
saying goodnight to her one 

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night after eating and at a 
restaurant and she was, you 

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know, 8 months pregnant. 
And I said, and she took off out

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her phone and said, Dad, take a 
picture. 

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I'm like, is that on an 
airplane? 

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And she said, mom, do you know 
that you have said that to me 

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constantly the entire time I'm 
pregnant? 

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And I said good. 
And she said of course, of 

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course it is. 
So anyway, it's a just during 

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that time. 
Yeah, from 16 weeks in utero to 

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two years old, it's especially. 
Yes, especially important for 

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and it makes sense for brain 
development, right? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, we don't give our kids 

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devices often. 
The one time we do is on 

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airplanes. 
We will give them iPads, yeah, 

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to use. 
But I do always make sure that 

454
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,320
the Wi-Fi is off good and it's 
in airplane mode because the 

455
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,160
Wi-Fi can still be on in 
airplane mode, which is not. 

456
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Good. 
No trick they're doing, but 

457
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,600
yeah. 
Yeah, you have to like go into 

458
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480
the settings and just shut all 
of it off. 

459
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Yeah. 
And then airplane mode, you're 

460
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,040
not getting any Emfs, is that 
correct? 

461
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,920
That's correct. 
OK, you're getting a little bit 

462
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,760
of magnetic. 
There's always the electronics 

463
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,800
on the screen. 
That's why I would encourage you

464
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840
to go the next step, which is to
use a stylus on that screen. 

465
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,200
What is that? 
It's a what happened in my 

466
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,800
package. 
I always feel a stylus. 

467
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,480
It's one of my favorite things. 
So this tip is conductive and 

468
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,440
meaning that capacitive, meaning
that it's just going to make it 

469
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,000
super easy to scroll. 
I wish we had a screen here, but

470
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600
we don't, right? 
So, yeah, so. 

471
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,080
So you don't use your finger. 
Your finger away and so many 

472
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:22,560
people talk about their fingers 
getting numb, tingly, tired and 

473
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,640
this prevents that as well. 
And that by the way is a sign 

474
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,200
that they're being exposed. 
And so when you get that feeling

475
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,320
now it's time to stop or use the
stylus and I just love it keeps 

476
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760
their little fingers. 
The nice thing about magnetic 

477
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,640
coming from the screen is it 
dissipates very quickly just 

478
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,640
within a few inches. 
So this totally protected and 

479
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,680
they should put it on their lap.
It should be sitting on the 

480
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000
table OK. 
Yeah, with like a stand or. 

481
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Something I think so, yes. 
Great. 

482
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,000
I have one more airplane mode 
question. 

483
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,680
So one of my favorite things to 
do is go on a walk and I'll 

484
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,080
download podcasts and put my 
phone in airplane mode and I 

485
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600
will listen to the podcast with 
normal headphones. 

486
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,360
I don't have the I need to get 
some of. 

487
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,680
Yours, but I've been. 
Doing it with normal headphones,

488
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,280
am I getting exposed to EMF's? 
I wouldn't say very many. 

489
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,920
I wouldn't say much at all. 
If so, it wouldn't be radio 

490
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840
frequency. 
It might be some Electro 

491
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,600
electric fields which aren't 
great for you, but we don't have

492
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,400
the amazing amount of research 
on electric fields that we have 

493
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,840
on wireless energy so. 
My husband's been giving me a 

494
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,600
hard time about that. 
He's like, you're still getting 

495
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,040
it through the headphones, 
getting to get the the other 

496
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,960
kind, like the good kind of like
don't say anything to me until 

497
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,040
you stop putting your phone in 
your pocket and like stop doing 

498
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080
that and then you can come to me
with your concerns. 

499
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Is it on airplane in his pocket?
No, no, I'm going to have him 

500
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280
listen to this. 
OK, good, good. 

501
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,320
So important. 
Sperm count? 

502
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,120
Like what? 
What are the other issues with 

503
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,240
men putting their phones in 
their pockets without any 

504
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080
protection? 
Well, like we said, the holistic

505
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,320
effect of the AMF, I mean, we 
know, we know that it's going to

506
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,640
cause oxidative stress in their 
body. 

507
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440
We know that can lead to DNA 
damage. 

508
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920
You certainly don't want that. 
You don't want that passed down,

509
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,040
right? 
So there there's like I said, 

510
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,440
there's so many different 
studies and I love that so many 

511
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680
universities are picking a topic
eyes. 

512
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560
Let's do that and find out what 
happens with the EMF, you know, 

513
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,320
brain functionality, brain 
waves, you know, so many things 

514
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,520
are being studied on EMF 
exposure and various health 

515
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,000
impacts. 
And I haven't seen a study where

516
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,240
they say, oh, it's fine, 
Actually, I do see studies like 

517
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,560
that. 
And typically, here's the 

518
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720
problem with them. 
They don't use an actual cell 

519
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,320
phone. 
They use a pulse wave with no 

520
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,840
data, the same frequency, but 
there's no data on it. 

521
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,440
There's really no comparison. 
And sometimes they find effects 

522
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,240
even with that, which is 
interesting, but it's not really

523
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,200
the pure EMF that you and I are 
exposed to. 

524
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,120
So I want to see that kind of 
research. 

525
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,000
And then other times I I see 
nothing because the study isn't 

526
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,080
done properly. 
Yeah, so you know. 

527
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,280
I keep wondering, like, when 
will we get to a tipping point 

528
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,840
with this like we did with 
cigarettes when it was just 

529
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,920
recognized by everyone. 
Like, OK, this is not good. 

530
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,440
We need to correct course. 
Like when do you think that's 

531
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,480
going to happen? 
I thought it would be by now. 

532
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Yeah, as it's been in my life 
for so long. 

533
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,760
Yeah. 
You know, and I think we're 

534
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,760
getting closer and closer. 
I was completely floored when I 

535
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,160
saw the latest brain cancer. 
Cancers in children really is 

536
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:37,080
what it was from 15 to age 39. 
That group, the number one 

537
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,240
cancer is central nervous system
brain cancer, number one cancer.

538
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,600
And that just floored me because
it's never been that way before.

539
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,280
And slowly, slowly, slowly we're
seeing it grow. 

540
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,480
And now it's it double S the 
cancer after that, which I think

541
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,080
is lymphoma. 
And so I think that if we see 

542
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,200
more of that and there are more 
studies, like I said that global

543
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,320
Health Organization saying that 
we looked at 52 studies and 

544
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080
before we said it was possible 
and now we're saying this. 

545
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,160
I think that's should be the 
beginning of the tipping point. 

546
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Yeah. 
What more should we need to 

547
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,760
hear? 
Yeah. 

548
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,240
But like our mutual friend, 
Doctor Lee Aaron Keneally says 

549
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,720
too, that this, all the cancers 
are increasing and we just don't

550
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,040
understand it yet. 
But it's horrifying. 

551
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:36,120
And so if it's a toxin and it 
is, and we know that all toxins 

552
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
should be avoided, the 
environmental toxins, we can try

553
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,320
to avoid them as much as 
possible. 

554
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,080
We look for foods that don't 
have red dye or chemicals. 

555
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400
We look for things like 
primarily pure that we put on 

556
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,400
our face that are pure and don't
have any chemicals. 

557
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,240
We should also think of EMF that
way, OK, when I have it on 

558
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,200
airplane mode, when I have it 
off, I'm safe, I'm protected. 

559
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,240
It's just another category of 
toxins, yes. 

560
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,120
What are some hidden sources of 
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth in the home 

561
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,440
that people don't think about? 
It's so sad. 

562
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,320
Need like the digital digital 
every. 

563
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
That right, so that's a good 
clue that's what I was going to 

564
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,400
say anything digital look for 
wireless associated with it. 

565
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,920
If you haven't meter, it's super
easy to find. 

566
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040
If you don't, you can just look 
at specs. 

567
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,240
If you see anything that says M 
wave, that means 5G millimeter 

568
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,920
wave. 
If you say Z gigahertz GHz, that

569
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,880
means there's some wireless or 
Hz is electricity. 

570
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,920
So you can look for clues there 
on a spec sheet. 

571
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,840
But it's so sad that a 
refrigerator. 

572
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,280
Oven we we're remodeling a home 
right now and so we bought all 

573
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,720
of these new appliances and I 
know my husband was looking to 

574
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,680
make sure that they didn't have 
like Bluetooth or Wi-Fi 

575
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
capabilities because a lot of 
them list that as like. 

576
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,480
A bad, good thing. 
A smart. 

577
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,480
You don't want that. 
Yeah. 

578
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,640
But now I'm wondering like, man,
I hope that the ones that we got

579
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200
really don't because we found 
ones that didn't list that as a 

580
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,360
benefit, but maybe they still. 
They like it, they want their 

581
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,280
data, they want to be in 
connection. 

582
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,440
I have a video where I take the 
antennas out of my washer and 

583
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,160
dryer that I didn't even know 
were there and it was just. 

584
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,880
How do you find them? 
My head found it with a 

585
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,760
headache, but because I love the
angry and it was, it was down at

586
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600
the in our basement in a 
beautifully clean area. 

587
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,320
And I kept getting a headache 
and I'm like, Oh my gosh. 

588
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,600
And I thought, oh, I bet, I bet 
the guy who installed it left 

589
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,480
his phone or something or an 
iPad. 

590
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,440
So I get my meter out and I'm 
looking, I'm like, Oh my gosh. 

591
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,560
And then I see in little, a 
little Wi-Fi symbol, little tiny

592
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,760
Wi-Fi symbol. 
And I'm like, oh, no. 

593
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,880
And so it was difficult to find 
someone who would come out and 

594
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,360
take it apart when I told them 
what I wanted, but they didn't 

595
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,440
want to have anything to do with
it. 

596
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,920
But then I found this great 
independent company that came 

597
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960
out and Chuck it apart and I put
the meter right on it and we 

598
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,199
just disconnected it. 
And so that was very lucky. 

599
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,960
What type of company did you 
find an? 

600
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,320
Appliance Repair, you know, we 
just kept calling Appliance 

601
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Repair said no, you will not be 
liable if it doesn't work. 

602
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,480
I mean, that's just the silliest
thing ever. 

603
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Like who needs to control their 
washing machine from a cell 

604
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,120
phone? 
My biggest pet peeve is how our 

605
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640
society wants us to do 
everything from our phones now, 

606
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,360
like QR codes at restaurants. 
What is that? 

607
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,360
Just just give me a menu. 
I always ask, can I have a 

608
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,840
physical menu? 
Because I don't want to pull out

609
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,280
my phone and look at this stupid
QR code and scroll on my phone 

610
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,080
to see what you're offering for 
dinner. 

611
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Like. 
Gives me a menu and I feel like 

612
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,480
everyone needs to be asking for 
physical menus. 

613
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,680
The QR code thing has gotten out
of control. 

614
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Hallelujah. 
Yes, I hate it. 

615
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,600
I'm a little annoyed about that 
one. 

616
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,840
And it's so much, but like you 
said, it's really it's, it's 

617
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,960
being put in things that we 
don't want, don't need, didn't 

618
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,000
ask for, and then we don't know 
about. 

619
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,480
And so I think for that reason, 
it's nice to have a meter and 

620
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,440
then like you said, you don't 
need to to play along with the 

621
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,560
game. 
Exactly. 

622
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,360
There was in a a home that we 
were leasing, there was a 

623
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,800
refrigerator that had that was a
smart refrigerator. 

624
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,920
And the repairman came and I 
said, can you disconnect that? 

625
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,280
He said, no, I can't. 
And he said, but do you believe 

626
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,120
that they're doing this? 
He said, you know why they're 

627
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,360
doing this? 
I said, no, why? 

628
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,720
And he said, because they want 
to know how you're using that 

629
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,920
refrigerator. 
And if you call me and you say 

630
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,840
that the freezer stopped working
and you don't know why, I can 

631
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,440
see that you had that door open 
and you left that door open too 

632
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,720
long and you left it open too 
long too many times. 

633
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,640
And then guess what? 
It's not part of your warranty. 

634
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,200
And I said, oh, that's so sad. 
Sad. 

635
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,960
They know everything. 
Yes. 

636
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,920
And that's another problem with 
it is the data and the privacy. 

637
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,200
It's just gotten to a point of 
being ridiculous. 

638
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,360
And that's why I love 
disconnecting and pulling out 

639
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,520
those antennas whenever I can. 
And look for your speakers, your

640
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560
stereo speakers. 
Look even for things that are 

641
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160
wired like your television. 
You might have a television. 

642
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,320
And if it's any television from 
the last five years, it's 

643
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,000
definitely going to have 
wireless connectivity, which you

644
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,280
believe that you've turned off 
because you went into settings 

645
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,040
and you said no, no Wi-Fi, no 
Bluetooth. 

646
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,360
But still it will be on 
searching searching in case you 

647
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,880
do. 
And if you turn the Wi-Fi and 

648
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,800
Bluetooth off. 
Yes, you really need to unplug 

649
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,640
your TV. 
This is what I use my Wi-Fi kill

650
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,600
switch for. 
Because I don't have a Wi-Fi, I 

651
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,600
turn off my TV and my Sonos 
speakers, which just drive me 

652
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,440
nuts that they're hard wired, 
but we cannot turn off the 

653
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Bluetooth. 
Really. 

654
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,880
Yes, and I think this is 
probably everyone's speakers 

655
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,960
right now. 
Be aware this is a huge issue. 

656
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,360
Don't have them on if you're not
using them. 

657
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,320
Yeah, what are some of the worst
EMF offenders that people are 

658
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,600
blasting themselves with on a 
daily basis that just drives you

659
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
crazy? 
We talked about the first one, 

660
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,560
earbuds Earpods. 
There's no excuse for that. 

661
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,320
No excuse because they're on all
the time. 

662
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,320
If they're out-of-the-box, if 
they're in your ear, even if 

663
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,960
you're not hearing anything, 
they're on, they're driving that

664
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,880
EMF from one to another right 
through your head, right around 

665
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,880
your body. 
Why? 

666
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,320
Why? 
And so that's number one, any 

667
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,360
wearable and a watch, a Fitbit, 
anything that has wireless 

668
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,360
energy. 
Why? 

669
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,280
Especially when most of those 
things you can turn onto 

670
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,080
airplane mode or turn off 
certain certain, you know, 

671
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,440
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, whatever the 
connectivity is and be able to 

672
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680
still collect data. 
Did you know that? 

673
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,360
And then you can turn it on. 
Some of the wearables, yeah, I 

674
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,160
like the idea of health 
wearables, but I also feel like 

675
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,360
we are becoming too accustomed 
to outsourcing our health to 

676
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,880
these wearables instead of just 
being intuitive and thinking, 

677
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,680
OK, what does my body need right
now? 

678
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,280
How am I feeling? 
Do I need to go for a walk? 

679
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,720
Do I need water? 
Instead of, like, trusting this 

680
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,760
device to tell us what we need. 
I don't know. 

681
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,680
I think there's maybe a place 
for it sometimes. 

682
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,760
But to just always outsource 
your health and how you're 

683
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,720
feeling to what your wearable is
telling you to do it seems a 

684
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,080
little crazy to me. 
I think you're exactly right. 

685
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,600
And in fact, when I, I test 
everything and I buy everything 

686
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,720
so that I can test it for 
wireless, how much I can turn 

687
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,680
off what's happening with it. 
And so of course I got an OR 

688
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,760
ring. 
And fortunately, because it's so

689
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,080
tiny, the magnetic is low and 
you can turn off all the 

690
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,440
wireless capability. 
But I used it and I slept great.

691
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,360
I had the most wonderful night's
sleep. 

692
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,080
And I looked at my data and 
apparently I did not. 

693
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
That's. 
So discouraging and. 

694
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,440
I thought. 
I guess I don't feel good today.

695
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,320
My ring tell me I feel good. 
We're not doing this. 

696
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,240
So anyway, yeah, I agree with 
you completely. 

697
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,120
And then you know where they ask
for your information. 

698
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,000
Drives me nuts because you don't
need to give them that 

699
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,560
information. 
By the way, when they ask, I 

700
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,680
hope that you don't give your 
real name, your real birthday, 

701
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,800
your location. 
They do know, but you don't have

702
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,880
to tell them the details because
that information will get shared

703
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000
either on purpose or by mistake.
And so why? 

704
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,680
Like you said, it's all your 
health data and we're giving it 

705
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,400
to everything and we don't need 
to. 

706
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400
And we don't know the 
consequences of that. 

707
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,840
Yeah, Yeah. 
At all. 

708
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,720
You mentioned Apple Watches. 
Yes. 

709
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,520
I'm thinking about all of like 
the teenagers and young kids 

710
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:16,240
that are I see now wearing these
Apple Watches and they're just 

711
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,400
on their body constantly. 
I don't think people, the 

712
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960
average person is like turning 
it on airplane mode. 

713
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,240
And do people sleep in them too?
They do be to collect. 

714
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:26,360
Their collect the data. 
Right. 

715
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,880
Or they get that important text 
or phone call, right? 

716
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,040
Yeah, totally unnecessary. 
And that's probably one of my 

717
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080
most read blogs. 
So people are interested. 

718
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,520
And what they'll find out is 
that some of the people have 

719
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,720
contacted me about rashes, about
carpal tunnel, about their 

720
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,440
shoulders hurting. 
I mean, they're getting very 

721
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,360
real, real symptoms from a 
wearable because that wireless 

722
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,840
energy is 24/7. 
And remember how we talked about

723
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,080
the EHS people, the people that 
know that they're sensitive and 

724
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,800
that large exposure, that's what
they're they're getting. 

725
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,880
And you know, once you're 
allergic to peanuts, it doesn't 

726
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,320
go away. 
And I feel with EHS, it's 

727
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,600
similar. 
I mean, you can, you can manage 

728
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,360
the symptoms by by getting away 
from them, but it's not that 

729
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040
symptom. 
Just something in our body wants

730
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600
to wake us up and it doesn't go 
away. 

731
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:21,640
You're always gonna have a 
little bit of sensitivity. 

732
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,320
Exactly. 
With phones, is there a type of 

733
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,080
phone that is better EMF wise? 
Like for the average person 

734
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,560
who's just getting like the 
latest iPhone model all the 

735
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,480
time, is that something to be 
aware of and not do? 

736
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,760
Is there a phone that's better? 
I know my husband and I have 

737
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,720
thought about going back to flip
phones, but he's done some 

738
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:48,120
research on that and his limited
knowledge of EMF's and has also 

739
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
found that they also like are 
not the best. 

740
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,680
And I know you mentioned your 
first experience with the phone 

741
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,600
wasn't good. 
So like what is someone to do 

742
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,720
and what's the best cell phone 
option? 

743
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Well, if you have an iPhone 11 
or lower, hold on to it. 

744
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,880
It's gold because it's lacking 1
particular antenna. 

745
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,800
In fact, now the new phone might
have up to 1416 antennas. 

746
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,440
Different antennas in that 
little. 

747
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,120
Phone, I think when people think
of antennas, they think of 

748
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,360
something like sticking up, but 
you're saying the antenna is 

749
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,920
like in the phone, we don't see 
it, but it has all these 

750
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,440
different. 
Antennas and that EMF that we 

751
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,640
talked about, it comes off 
everyone and unlike a cigarette 

752
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,280
or just keeps dissipating and it
goes away. 

753
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,800
It's trying to connect to the 
other one. 

754
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,720
It's trying a sensor is trying 
to commit to an an antenna. 

755
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:34,920
Antenna is trying to connect to 
an antenna and so they're on and

756
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,280
they are affecting you and the 
more of them, the more exposure.

757
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,200
So what I love about the iPhone 
11 is it doesn't have a 

758
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,760
millimeter wave antenna. 
No 5G. 

759
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:50,040
And that is pure 5G, yes, no 5G.
And so if you see 5G on your 

760
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
phone and you see it with an E, 
it's not real 5G. 

761
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,840
But if you see plain 5G, it 
means that your phone has the 

762
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,200
wonderful connection to the 
millimeter wave, a brand new 

763
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,760
higher frequency that until now,
as humans, we've only been 

764
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,880
exposed to on a consistent basis
in the scanner at the airport. 

765
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,840
That 3D wow. 
That is the only other source, 

766
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,040
yes. 
Yes, and those who have an 

767
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,880
iPhone 12 and above will have 
that in their phones. 

768
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,480
I feel really silly right now 
because I always avoid that at 

769
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,200
the airport, but I'm getting 
exposure through my phone you're

770
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,800
saying? 
You don't have it, you have it. 

771
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,080
No, I have like a it's like a 14
I think. 

772
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,760
So you know you don't have to 
have 5G on your phone right now.

773
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,200
You still have the option of 
going into your settings and 

774
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,360
where it says cellular, you go 
to that setting and we should 

775
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,320
probably do a screenshot of 
that, but you'll see that 

776
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:50,840
there's an option to go 5G only,
5G optional and 4G LTE. 

777
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,440
So you choose 4G LTE and then 
your phone won't automatically 

778
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,560
default to that millimeter wave 
antenna. 

779
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,400
And the millimeter wave antenna,
The reason that we're that it 

780
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,560
was developed and the reason the
cell phone industry was allowed 

781
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,520
to go into 5G and everybody was 
so excited about it is because 

782
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,720
they said we're going to use 
this new frequency. 

783
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,040
And it's much, much higher up on
the spectrum than 4G or 3G. 

784
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,120
And like I said, it goes in 
those airport, you know, 

785
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,400
scanners. 
But really what it's made for 

786
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,480
now is because it's a smaller 
wave, it doesn't go very far, 

787
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,000
but it holds a ton of data. 
And so it's for driverless cars.

788
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,480
Oh my goodness. 
That's what it's really being 

789
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,600
developed for. 
So you're starting to see it on 

790
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,960
Yeah, St. blocks and it's really
sad. 

791
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:41,960
Wow. 
And and so unnecessary at the 

792
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,240
yeah. 
We were just in Costa Rica over 

793
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,720
the summer and we noticed there 
was no 5G. 

794
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:48,640
Yes. 
And it was. 

795
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,920
It was great. 
Yeah, I love that going to. 

796
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,840
And you know, in Europe, I have 
a little video about this. 

797
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,640
Their Wi-Fi is out-of-the-box, 
have 80% less power than ours 

798
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,920
do. 
Wow. 

799
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,240
It's a requirement. 
Wow. 

800
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,440
And they do it mainly for 
interference in tight quarters. 

801
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,360
But I love it. 
Yeah, because we're just 

802
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,480
pushing, pushing, pushing. 
That's amazing. 

803
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,720
OK, you're I'm going to have, 
I'm going to have you look at my

804
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,520
phone after this. 
Let's just go through all of my 

805
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,560
settings. 
And like, I'd love to optimize. 

806
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,800
That'll be so fun for someone 
who may be feeling overwhelmed 

807
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,880
by everything they're hearing 
about tech toxins. 

808
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,440
What's like an easy step that 
people can take just to lower 

809
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,640
the level of tech toxins in 
their own home? 

810
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,040
Wi-Fi, but if I do. 
Yeah, yeah. 

811
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,800
I know we have the timer, but I 
like the idea of the switch 

812
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,720
better because oftentimes we're 
not using it and it probably 

813
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:28,040
also prevents you from being on 
your cell phone 24/7 and kind of

814
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,560
like. 
Parents say, and that is the 

815
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520
number one thing that parents 
tell me is their children didn't

816
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,440
nap until they turned the Wi-Fi 
off. 

817
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,120
Wow. 
Yeah. 

818
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,080
What about the bedroom? 
How can people create a tech 

819
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,720
light sanctuary in the bedroom? 
I love that. 

820
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:43,560
Let's go to an analog alarm 
clock. 

821
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Get rid of that digital alarm 
clock. 

822
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,880
Let's, like we said, turn the 
Wi-Fi off, let's charge our 

823
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,760
phone in another room, and let's
make sure that it's on airplane 

824
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,600
mode. 
And let's make sure that it 

825
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,360
really is on airplane mode and 
it stays on airplane mode 

826
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,040
because once you are off 
completely, sometimes when it 

827
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,960
wakes up, it goes to full charge
of all the antennas. 

828
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,480
So just make sure it's on 
airplane mode. 

829
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,520
I think that those are super 
easy things to do to create just

830
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,840
a safe space. 
We talked a little bit about 

831
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,280
that electric EMF. 
If you just move your bed a few 

832
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,680
inches, 6 inches from the wall, 
there'll be less of that if you 

833
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,920
have wires behind your bed. 
Those are my favorite easy, easy

834
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,440
fixes. 
Oh, put in an amber, red or even

835
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,920
orange light in your bedroom at 
all times just to lower lower 

836
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,120
that potential of flu light. 
Yeah, and I think a lot of 

837
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,600
people get confused about blue 
light and EMF's and even like 

838
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,040
lump them together. 
But can you just give a quick 

839
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,240
explanation of the difference 
between the two? 

840
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,760
Sure. 
Well, they're both on that EMF 

841
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,480
spectrum that I talked about. 
You know that they're different 

842
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,920
frequencies on the spectrum. 
Light is on the spectrum. 

843
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,360
EMF, wireless energy, it's on 
the spectrum. 

844
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,320
So I think that's where people 
start to get confused about it. 

845
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,280
They're both frequencies. 
Yeah, they're both frequencies. 

846
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,280
But the interesting thing is 
blue light, think of it as 

847
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,200
visible. 
So wireless energy is invisible.

848
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,200
Blue light is visible and blue 
light has it's right now it's in

849
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,320
the sky, it blue light is 
everywhere. 

850
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,680
When there's light out, when 
it's daytime, it's powered by 

851
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,720
the sun, you're going to get 
blue light. 

852
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,160
The problem now that we're 
seeing with blue light is too 

853
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,560
much of it all the time. 
And it's electronically 

854
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,720
motivated, this blue light. 
And so it can flicker and that's

855
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,720
and and the screen is brighter. 
Honestly, a lot of times been 

856
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:38,720
going outside. 
Yeah, I know. 

857
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,240
In spectrum, right, like blue 
light outside right now we're 

858
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,400
getting the natural balanced 
amount of it. 

859
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,600
But like our devices are just 
purely, I mean mostly I think 

860
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,200
blue light, is that right? 
Yes. 

861
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,800
Well, the blue light is 
predominant, yes. 

862
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,480
And of course to make it bright 
and just really quickly that 

863
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,360
flicker. 
I'd love to give people this 

864
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,760
hack if you want to get rid of 
it. 

865
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,360
The more power you have to the 
device, the less flicker there 

866
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,480
will be. 
So I've. 

867
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Heard you say this. 
It's true. 

868
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,520
It's so funny to see. 
I've done it in meters, but but 

869
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,320
the brighter it is, so it 
flickers like a light dimmer. 

870
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,520
You know how you get that 
flicker? 

871
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Yes, well, that's the same 
thing. 

872
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Think of it the same way. 
If it has full power, it's not 

873
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880
going to flicker as much. 
There's always going to be some 

874
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,160
flicker from, you know, certain 
devices. 

875
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,320
I know there's a new computer 
that doesn't flicker and I'm 

876
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640
excited to try it. 
But anyway, that's. 

877
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,640
I always thought that I was 
doing the right thing by like 

878
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,560
dimming my computer screen but 
actually that's like making the 

879
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,920
flicker worse which can cause 
headaches. 

880
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,720
Anxiety, yes. 
It's just not good for the brain

881
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,200
to process at. 
All it's really, again, we don't

882
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,920
see it. 
Yeah, it's imperceptible 

883
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,640
flicker. 
And so that's why you put on 

884
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,360
your blue light glasses, Yeah. 
And make the screen. 

885
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,080
Bright, yeah. 
Full power, yes. 

886
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Or full bright, full power yeah.
Full bright blue light glasses, 

887
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,000
yes. 
Or like the orange ones during 

888
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,760
the day. 
Yes, what I do and then the the 

889
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,120
like red ones at night. 
That's exactly right. 

890
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,880
I have these new green ones that
I love because I was I just 

891
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,280
couldn't get into the red. 
It was making me anxious really 

892
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,720
and upset. 
Yes, turns out I'm right. 

893
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,760
There's a ton of research about 
it that it can cause anxiety. 

894
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Red light glasses, red lights 
with the red light. 

895
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,240
The red, the red color, the red 
color. 

896
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,160
And so we're seeing through that
red color. 

897
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,240
And so the red, yes, we're 
seeing red. 

898
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:26,680
That's exactly it. 
And so you do get more 

899
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,760
protection up the spectrum 
because it will block green 

900
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,040
light, but green glasses block 
the blue light, especially the 

901
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,800
very important for 60 to 480 
nanometers of the frequency that

902
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,360
messes with our melatonin. 
Interesting, I've not seen these

903
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,480
anywhere. 
Green lens glasses. 

904
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:43,840
What EMF protection devices are 
total gimmicks? 

905
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Oh, this is a hot topic because 
it's it's trending, right? 

906
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,880
I mean, I personally can't seem 
to go through my feed without 

907
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,320
seeing a chip or a sticker. 
And for sure, the stickers, just

908
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,880
stay away from the stickers. 
The stickers that aren't even 

909
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,040
called harmonizers or chips. 
I, I see them on Amazon, They're

910
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,120
super inexpensive. 
You get a whole package of them.

911
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,240
There's not any research at all 
that they're even selling them 

912
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:13,440
up with. 
They're just saying these will 

913
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,520
protect you from the EMF. 
And of course you want them to, 

914
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,480
right? 
And there is a placebo effect 

915
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,280
and you might feel better. 
But definitely stay away from 

916
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,840
the stickers, the chips that we 
hear so much about that take the

917
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,960
wave and transform it. 
I'm just not sold on the 

918
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,600
research yet. 
And I keep saying to these 

919
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,200
companies, because of course 
these kinds of companies would 

920
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,800
want me to affiliate them with 
them. 

921
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,200
And of course I would promote 
them. 

922
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,640
If I wanted to recommend them, 
of course I would. 

923
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,000
But the research just isn't 
compelling. 

924
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,240
A lot of it talks about with the
different ones. 

925
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,520
We'll talk about brain waves. 
They do, you know, EEG studies 

926
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:01,040
and they see that their chips, 
their harmonizers might increase

927
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,840
brain waves. 
Well, we know that EMF does that

928
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,520
EMF increases the power density 
of the brain wave over and over 

929
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,120
and over. 
We see that in studies. 

930
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,360
And so then I see a chip 
claiming that and I think, well,

931
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160
is that a good idea that, you 
know, isn't that good? 

932
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:21,680
So I, we know now the mechanism.
And so when we see research on 

933
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:24,880
any of these things, on any 
silly thing like a rock or 

934
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,320
something or crystal or a Shun 
guide or any of that, when we 

935
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,160
see research that says, oh, 
look, those ion channels of 

936
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,920
those voltage gated calcium 
channels are now working 

937
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,520
properly all the time when this 
is used, great that the research

938
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,720
doesn't bear it out right now. 
And so I can't recommend 

939
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:48,240
anything because it gives you a 
false sense of safety. 

940
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,160
You put it on, you think you're 
OK, and then you go out and get 

941
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,280
exposed to more of it. 
And it's, it's sad because no 

942
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,520
one in government is trying to 
stop any of those companies from

943
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,920
making these claims. 
I even see a company that uses 

944
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,120
celebrities talking about EMF 
and then puts their product 

945
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,400
right next to it, implying that 
that celebrity is using that 

946
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,640
product when they're not at all.
Yeah, it's just, it's very 

947
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,240
scammy, isn't it? 
Sad. 

948
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,320
Yeah, I had a lot of people ask 
me to ask you that question and 

949
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,960
when I told them that I was 
interviewing you tomorrow, they 

950
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,920
were like, do the do the 
stickers work? 

951
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,400
Do the crystals work? 
No, well, you know, I did a deep

952
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,320
dive on some of that and they, 
they wanted me to represent them

953
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,320
and said, OK, so I got a couple 
and they're, I wrote very, very 

954
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,760
long blog basically saying I 
wouldn't recommend it. 

955
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,640
And many, many different reasons
why. 

956
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,240
And so they served me with legal
action. 

957
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:50,880
What to take a damn. 
Yeah. 

958
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,720
And we went through a very long 
process over a year and a half 

959
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,400
and we finally settled and we 
took less than 20 words out of 

960
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,920
the article. 
So it's basically the same 

961
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,040
thing. 
Had to take words out like world

962
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,000
renowned. 
And so yes, yes, because it's 

963
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,120
solid. 
My recommendation is solid and 

964
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,480
but you can still buy 1 and it 
might make you feel better. 

965
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,800
But to me and to the researchers
that I used to help me analyze, 

966
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,120
the scientist that is to help me
analyze the research, it just 

967
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,920
didn't bear out. 
And there's another new big 

968
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,440
harmonizer that's expensive and.
I think I know what you're 

969
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,240
talking. 
About many of these, many of 

970
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:33,240
these harmonizers will say, look
at our research. 

971
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,360
Our research says this and we 
have this great research. 

972
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,800
And I just encourage people look
at the research. 

973
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,760
I mean really look at what it 
says. 

974
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Does it say anything that's even
remotely about EMF? 

975
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,640
It is possible like is happening
and there's this one that did 

976
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,320
had a great company, a great 
German company do their 

977
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,120
research. 
And the research statement says 

978
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,080
after two weeks there was no 
clear effects. 

979
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,160
OK. 
And so but and that's published 

980
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,480
in the research. 
So why do you talk about it on 

981
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,080
your website? 
Because it looks good. 

982
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,280
You know, it's probably a very 
expensive study and they might 

983
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,000
say it's certified. 
Certified by who? 

984
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,640
The FCC. 
Now, that doesn't mean it's EMF 

985
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,200
free. 
Yeah. 

986
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,720
You know, we have to be. 
We want so badly to be protected

987
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,240
from it because it will. 
We can understand. 

988
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:23,160
Yeah. 
This energy, sure. 

989
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,840
We're electrical beings. 
It's electrical. 

990
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,320
It's probably doing something 
like you noticed in college, but

991
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,640
we'll just grab onto anything. 
Because people want the quick 

992
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,760
fix, because it is more work to 
turn off the Wi-Fi you know to 

993
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,760
to do all this stuff. 
But it sounds like that is 

994
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,200
really the most tried and true 
way. 

995
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:42,080
It is. 
What do you recommend for 

996
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,520
parents that are navigating 
devices with their kids? 

997
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,880
What are your recommendations or
advice for for parents that are 

998
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,640
trying to figure that out and 
help their kids have a healthy 

999
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:57,480
relationship with technology? 
I think #1 if they were aware of

1000
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,240
all of the things that could 
happen, and that's why I'm 

1001
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,280
writing this book and it's going
to come out this year. 

1002
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,000
It's so important just to know 
everything that could possibly 

1003
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,640
be a problem so they can avoid 
it. 

1004
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,480
Yeah. 
And then it's easy to avoid. 

1005
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,200
But mainly basics, you know, no 
phones in bedrooms ever. 

1006
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,560
Ever. 
Ever. 

1007
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,280
There's no reason. 
To there can be a very Dark 

1008
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480
World and plus like we said, the
blue light and the scrolling and

1009
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,400
bedtime. 
So the best thing that a parent 

1010
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,520
can do is do it with them. 
Any parent that has a child, and

1011
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,640
I don't care if they're 18 years
old, that's playing a game, 

1012
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,120
needs to play that game. 
They need to know what's 

1013
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,400
happening. 
They need to put on those 

1014
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,280
headphones and if they say hey, 
this is great, then they know 

1015
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,720
and they say, hey, this is 
feeding my child things that I 

1016
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,600
really don't want them exposed 
to or I don't want them to be 

1017
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,480
part of their character. 
You know, then they'll know, but

1018
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,680
you can't possibly know unless 
you experience it yourself. 

1019
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,160
So I think that especially with 
AIA, parent has so much to do, 

1020
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,760
but this is one of those 
critical things that they really

1021
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,880
need to do. 
Just step right alongside your 

1022
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,760
child and do it with them. 
This is why I'm really 

1023
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,320
brainstorming. 
Like how would I not have an 

1024
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,000
iPhone? 
Like, is it possible for me as 

1025
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,640
an adult to not do that and to 
teach my kids to not do that? 

1026
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,360
And I've looked at like the 
Light Phone. 

1027
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,160
How was that with EMF? 
Oh, it's the same. 

1028
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,040
It's the same. 
Yeah. 

1029
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,000
OK, that's what I thought. 
And he doesn't make any claims. 

1030
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,400
But you're also not you seeing 
it as much exactly because it's 

1031
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,760
not user friendly and I'm just 
trying to use this, yeah. 

1032
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Communication. 
Husband had it for a while. 

1033
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,120
He was like, it's too hard, I 
can't do this anymore. 

1034
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Yes, I'm like, OK, what if we 
did light phones and I still had

1035
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,680
the iPhone, but I kept it in my 
office, only in my office and it

1036
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,000
was in, you know, designated to 
that one bedroom and I just this

1037
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,840
one in there to use it. 
I'm just like, I don't. 

1038
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,240
I don't want to be. 
A prisoner of this society and 

1039
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,360
how the world is saying that we 
all have to live. 

1040
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,880
And like, how do I make 
different choices so that my 

1041
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,960
kids can feel like they can make
different choices? 

1042
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,680
And my kids aren't, they're not 
there yet, but I'm just like, 

1043
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,240
they're going to be there soon. 
So I'm so glad we do. 

1044
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Well, I think you can model 
balance. 

1045
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,640
I don't think you need to get 
rid of it. 

1046
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,360
I don't even think that you need
to put it away. 

1047
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,240
I think it's how you use it. 
I think if you tell the kids, 

1048
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,200
hey, it's on airplane mode, you 
know, we're just using it as a 

1049
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,000
camera today. 
My phone's best feature, right? 

1050
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,960
The camera, right? 
Go ahead and use it. 

1051
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,760
And if it's on full airplane 
mode, it's not as distracting, 

1052
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,160
It's not going to text you, It's
not you're not going to go 

1053
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,760
scrolling on social media and 
you're not going to have the 

1054
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,840
EMF. 
So it's not that the technology 

1055
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,720
is bad. 
In fact, it's fabulous. 

1056
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,360
It's just that we're letting it 
do more than we really need to 

1057
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,440
let it do. 
I I've said from the beginning, 

1058
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,960
you know, it was designed to 
make your life easier. 

1059
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,600
When it stops feeling that way, 
put it down so it's the same 

1060
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,240
thing. 
When it stops feeling like it's 

1061
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,040
easier, remove that app. 
That's really good advice, yeah.

1062
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,760
Do you think it's possible that 
the next generation will have a 

1063
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,920
healthier relationship with tech
than we have? 

1064
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Absolutely. 
Because they have parents like 

1065
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,560
you. 
Yes, yes, I think that they're 

1066
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,480
all we're already seeing the 
younger generation start to 

1067
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,480
think it's trendy to be offline,
you know, yeah, that's that 

1068
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,160
makes sense. 
It's different than the rest of 

1069
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,760
the people, but. 
They're doing the opposite of 

1070
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,840
what their parents do. 
They're being rebellious, but 

1071
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,480
it's actually like a good, good 
thing. 

1072
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Yes, but of course technology is
going to be in our life. 

1073
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,920
But if we don't have the balance
and if we don't have the 

1074
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,400
perspective that a detox gives 
us, you know, then we don't 

1075
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:38,680
understand how distracting, how 
overpowering, how important they

1076
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,600
become to us. 
So I think you model things like

1077
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,160
not bringing it into the bedroom
and not talking to it when 

1078
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,080
you're driving, you know, when 
you're in carpool or whatever, 

1079
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,800
you know, just just like be here
now. 

1080
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,000
One of my favorite how to just, 
you know, be here now and be in 

1081
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,360
the moment. 
It just allows you to be so much

1082
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,720
more authentic and understand 
who you really are and just show

1083
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,000
them that and show them what a 
wonderful feeling that is, like 

1084
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,000
we are here touching the ground,
their feet. 

1085
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,480
That's another question. 
How much does grounding mitigate

1086
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,160
the harmful effects of Emfs? 
Well, I think it mitigates the 

1087
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,840
harmful effects of everything in
our lives if we're touching 

1088
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,400
nature and being a part of it. 
I don't think there's a special 

1089
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,680
thing that it does for EMF. 
OK, doesn't mitigate that at 

1090
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,360
all. 
No, I wouldn't think so. 

1091
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,520
I don't think it's OK for me to 
stand on the ground and use my 

1092
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,720
cell phone. 
OK, because I understand I'm 

1093
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,680
still getting those radio 
frequencies. 

1094
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,520
Other people feel differently, 
but I haven't seen it proven. 

1095
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,320
Yeah. 
So, you know, I'm all about 

1096
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,280
nature and being near it as much
as possible, but it doesn't mean

1097
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,680
I take my phone out when I'm in 
it. 

1098
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,480
Yeah. 
And that's another good point 

1099
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,920
about the grounding mats. 
I can link you to a great video 

1100
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,560
done by a building biologist 
that shows the importance of not

1101
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,040
plugging it into your electric, 
your electric outlet really, 

1102
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,280
because it brings sometimes that
dirty electricity, most times 

1103
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,720
that current to the mat and then
you're exposed to more. 

1104
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,480
What if the? 
Fields. 

1105
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,120
What if it is? 
What if the wiring is done 

1106
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,560
properly in in a way like in the
best way possible? 

1107
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,640
Does that impact it at all or no
matter what? 

1108
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,280
Are you getting some dirty 
electricity? 

1109
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,120
The building biologists 
recommend only using a grounding

1110
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,120
mat when it's wired to the 
ground. 

1111
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,640
So we have these big copper 
stakes, you know, we wired the 

1112
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,040
green wire and we attach it 
where the wire goes on the 

1113
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,360
grounding mat, put it outside 
golden. 

1114
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,120
OK, It's doing what it's 
supposed to do then. 

1115
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,520
OK. 
Otherwise, you're getting a 

1116
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,400
little bit. 
Yes. 

1117
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,400
Otherwise, you're definitely 
getting something and you're 

1118
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,840
risking a lot, so. 
If the wiring is bad, yes. 

1119
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,040
And that's a whole other thing 
we haven't gotten into, like 

1120
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,680
wiring and the home and the 
machine. 

1121
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Field, there's usually the 
fields get transferred, so the 

1122
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,360
electric fields, yeah. 
OK Yikes, I have those. 

1123
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,720
Oh, you do? 
Do you use them plugged in? 

1124
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,480
Have you used the wire? 
Have you seen it? 

1125
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,800
They are plugged into the 
outlet. 

1126
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,760
Well, yeah, you know what? 
I gave you a meter and you can 

1127
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,320
see yourself. 
OK, OK. 

1128
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,880
I'll test that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1129
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,240
Do you think it's possible to 
have a truly healthy 

1130
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,040
relationship with your cell 
phone? 

1131
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,880
Or do you feel like it's 
necessary to like truly unplug 

1132
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,720
for a day or days on end and 
like detox from it that way? 

1133
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,000
Or do you think like just living
in balance on a day-to-day basis

1134
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,360
is possible? 
I think a wonderful detox will 

1135
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,440
show you the answer because once
you've detoxed, you can see what

1136
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,560
life was like. 
You feel things different, you 

1137
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,280
see things differently and you 
actually feel better. 

1138
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,320
And then you bring the 
technology into your life and 

1139
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,240
you're like, OK, I get it is for
me when I need it. 

1140
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,320
Awareness there, yes. 
Yeah, yes. 

1141
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,360
And I actually love my life with
technology. 

1142
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,040
Yeah, because I don't feel 
anything from it anymore because

1143
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,440
I've got it plugged into the 
wall. 

1144
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,840
Yeah, it works for you, not. 
Against you exactly. 

1145
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,480
Buy Wi-Fi and you can do almost 
everything except send a text on

1146
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,920
your phone. 
Apple doesn't allow that. 

1147
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Android doesn't allow that. 
But you can text on your 

1148
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,360
computer. 
Sure you can't exactly. 

1149
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,600
Which exactly? 
Which I think is better. 

1150
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,080
Anyways, that's kind of what 
I've started doing. 

1151
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,840
I just like batch text, batch 
respond to text. 

1152
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,280
Good for. 
You, though, and that's your 

1153
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,080
control and your balance. 
When you're ready, when you're 

1154
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,880
ready to use the technology, 
it's there. 

1155
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,320
Yeah, I love that. 
Yeah. 

1156
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,360
And the only disadvantage is 
just that there's wires 

1157
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,800
everywhere. 
But it's not actually that bad, 

1158
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,480
right? 
And you have the full setup 

1159
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,600
available on your website. 
Yes. 

1160
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,480
And my husband would tell you it
is bad because there's wires 

1161
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,320
everywhere. 
And I would say it's delicious. 

1162
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,880
It's luxurious. 
I want these. 

1163
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,080
Wires everywhere like a. 
Reminder of like how you're 

1164
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,280
protecting yourself. 
Yes, yeah, but you know, you can

1165
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,200
have the option and we have this
baby monitor. 

1166
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,920
We do give this option with the 
baby monitor. 

1167
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,960
There are these I I call them 
Internet plug insurance. 

1168
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,120
So you plug them into the wall 
and then it can take that signal

1169
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,200
through your wiring, which isn't
great for The Dirty electricity.

1170
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,040
But if you already have a smart 
meter, you've got the problem 

1171
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,160
anyway where that intermingling 
of the high frequencies with the

1172
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,800
electrical wires causes this 
interference that people call 

1173
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,560
dirty electricity. 
But you won't have as many 

1174
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,200
cables. 
And if you're not wired, it's a 

1175
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,680
great way to become semi wired 
without having to draw it all 

1176
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,760
through your home, which is the 
ultimate. 

1177
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,160
What you're doing is the 
ultimate. 

1178
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,760
Yeah, we're trying. 
And some of this is still like 

1179
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,920
over my head as you're talking 
about it, but you have lots of 

1180
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,240
information on your website 
about how this stuff works and 

1181
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,800
if people want assistance in 
wiring their homes, don't go 

1182
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,520
through an electrician. 
If I'm yes, if I'm correct, you 

1183
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,480
go through like an AV. 
Yeah, 5 TAV some elections, you 

1184
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,200
probably know. 
No, Yes, this. 

1185
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,720
And and. 
Right, Right. 

1186
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,320
William. 
Yeah. 

1187
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,880
And he's awesome. 
And more and more people are 

1188
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,040
learning how important it is. 
And I love it. 

1189
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,000
In fact, I'll tell them all 
about you on your website. 

1190
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,240
If you tell me who you are, I 
will absolutely promote them 

1191
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,160
because it makes it so much 
easier for people. 

1192
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:07,440
It is an expense but if you can 
have a clean hard wired home 

1193
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,480
it's such a great environment 
just like. 

1194
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,720
You know, investing in the food 
that you eat or investing in 

1195
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,400
your body through exercise, it's
like investing in the health of 

1196
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,320
your whole family by making this
one time switch. 

1197
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,360
And it's not something you have 
to keep paying for over and 

1198
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,600
over. 
It's like one time thing exactly

1199
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,040
done and done. 
Exactly. 

1200
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,280
And I keep thinking about what 
you said about the wires 

1201
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,720
everywhere. 
We have this one retractor. 

1202
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,840
That's my favorite thing. 
And so you plug it in and it 

1203
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,560
retracts. 
And we usually have a switch so 

1204
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,880
you can plug in many things at 
once and it retracts. 

1205
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,440
So it's not really like all 
over. 

1206
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,240
Yeah, attracts it. 
That's great. 

1207
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,200
That's super convenient. 
We were talking a little bit 

1208
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,200
before we started recording 
about electric vehicles and the 

1209
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,000
crew was getting into the 
conversation. 

1210
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,320
Give us your take on electric 
vehicles. 

1211
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,080
Are they safe? 
Are people who are driving them 

1212
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,320
being exposed to high levels of 
EMF's? 

1213
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,520
What are your thoughts? 
You know, I yes or no, yes or 

1214
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:03,880
no, because everyone in every 
car is being exposed to high 

1215
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,600
levels of EMF from their 
wireless antennas. 

1216
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,680
The wireless connectivity in the
car is off the charts. 

1217
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,360
Any any newer car because you 
got a Bluetooth you got to sell,

1218
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,640
you've got OnStar with another 
antenna chasing you and you've 

1219
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,319
got Wi-Fi. 
So the all of those are EMF and 

1220
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:23,120
they are absolutely exposing 
you. 

1221
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,359
Now what electric cars get a bad
rap for it's magnetic EMF 

1222
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,000
because those electric currents 
can generate magnetic and 

1223
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,560
magnetic isn't good for us. 
And I have seen high levels in 

1224
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,560
some electric cars and then I've
seen really low levels in other 

1225
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,560
electric cars. 
And so I asked a manufacturer, 

1226
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,120
an engineer and a manufacturer 
and he said it depends on who's 

1227
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,680
wiring and it depends on the 
person on the line wiring. 

1228
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,760
Like, Oh my goodness. 
So really what I say to people 

1229
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:57,359
is to take a magnetic electric 
meter on a car tour with you if 

1230
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:08,479
you are looking for a car. 
Yes, because it's not just the 

1231
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,640
model. 
It's like cars to the car. 

1232
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,800
It's cars. 
It varies. 

1233
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,520
It's car specific. 
Just in the, in the last week, 

1234
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,359
just for fun, I've had a few 
people do it and they're all 

1235
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:20,960
getting varying levels of 
magnetic fields in their 

1236
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,000
automatic cars, their standard 
cars, in their electric cars. 

1237
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,200
They're getting different 
fields. 

1238
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,960
My husband drives an electric 
car and has less than two on the

1239
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,080
magnetic, which is very, very 
low. 

1240
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,240
And we will always, every, every
car will expose you to some 

1241
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,960
magnetic EMF. 
Just by virtue of the speed the 

1242
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,720
car goes and the electronics in 
the car, there's going to be 

1243
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,960
some magnetic EMF. 
The problem is in some electric 

1244
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,479
cars at the beginning there were
massive amounts of magnetic 

1245
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,479
energy and I haven't seen that 
lately. 

1246
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:52,319
Interesting. 
Yeah. 

1247
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:56,320
So do you think it's they kind 
of corrected that intentionally?

1248
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,160
Maybe I know, but I think this 
whole thing about the batteries 

1249
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:02,280
giving out EMF that's just a 
myth. 

1250
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,800
Batteries are sealed so tight. 
They'd have to be and so, and 

1251
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,640
you know, I've, I've taken all 
my meters up to minute, sure 

1252
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,080
where the wire comes out 
sometime depending on how the 

1253
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,280
wiring is insulated and how it's
coming out of the battery and 

1254
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,560
then how those wires go through 
the rest of the car, different 

1255
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,800
things can happen. 
So I think it's really important

1256
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,120
to know the situation. 
And by the way, you can block 

1257
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,560
that magnetic EMF with a very, 
very thick steel that that's 

1258
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,680
still pliable, like a thick, 
thick foil. 

1259
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,280
And it's, it's sharp. 
And you'd have to have a 

1260
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,160
professional put it in and then 
put mats over it, but that can 

1261
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,360
block it. 
But then again, when you have 

1262
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,080
metal about that reflection, so 
you're going to reflect your 

1263
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,560
wireless. 
So please turn off any wireless 

1264
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,000
you can in your car if you have 
the ability. 

1265
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,160
If your car lets you turn off 
Wi-Fi, please turn it off if you

1266
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,440
can get in there and 
disconnected. 

1267
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,360
Some video the other day sent me
a picture of how they 

1268
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:00,080
disconnected the entire module 
of Wi-Fi and cell phone from 

1269
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,200
their car. 
They just took it out, just 

1270
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,880
disconnected it and they feel so
much better. 

1271
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,120
So that can be done. 
I actually drive a 15 year old 

1272
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,600
car. 
I love that your iPhone 11, your

1273
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,000
15 year old car, I love it like 
living living in the early 2. 

1274
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:20,040
Thousands and my car by by the 
way, has some magnetic an older 

1275
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,080
standard beautiful car has some 
magnetic EMF. 

1276
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,800
Yeah, but you're not getting the
other type of EMF. 

1277
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,240
At all? 
Yeah, yes. 

1278
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,760
Yeah. 
OK. 

1279
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,000
Well I want to close out with a 
few rapid fire questions for 

1280
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:34,680
you. 
OK. 

1281
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,880
What is one piece of tech that 
you love and would never part 

1282
01:11:38,880 --> 01:12:21,880
with? 
For tech heroes. 

1283
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,720
Yeah. 
Cool. 

1284
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,160
OK. 
That's a great recommendation. 

1285
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,600
It's great. 
It's great, and they'll help you

1286
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,640
hardware your home. 
They won't do the physical, but 

1287
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,280
they'll give you a drawing and 
they'll walk you through it 

1288
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,440
online. 
OK Zoom or Signal we try to use 

1289
01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:34,640
a lot. 
Yeah, that's a great 

1290
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,760
recommendation. 
What is one piece of technology 

1291
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,840
that you would throw away 
tomorrow that you just can't 

1292
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,720
stand? 
My husband's Sonos speakers. 

1293
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,920
The speakers. 
Yes, because but the tech heroes

1294
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,520
are right now as we speak, 
trying to open one and see if we

1295
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,000
can still use it without the 
Bluetooth connection. 

1296
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,480
OK. 
You'll have to let me know. 

1297
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,360
We'll see because we're getting 
our speakers hard wired, but I 

1298
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,960
don't know what brand we have 
and I don't know now. 

1299
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,200
I'm like second guessing 
everything that we're doing 

1300
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,120
after this. 
Conversation. 

1301
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,200
We know if you do find speakers 
that don't have Bluetooth in 

1302
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,400
them. 
OK, the last time you unplugged 

1303
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,760
for 24 hours, what did you do 
instead? 

1304
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,360
I'd love to unplug. 
Well, I schedule appointments 

1305
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,000
before. 
So I had lunch with a girlfriend

1306
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:20,560
and I was lucky to be here at 
the beach and walked on the 

1307
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,160
beach and I journaled, talk to 
God like I, I do. 

1308
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:29,360
And just really, you know, my 
favorite thing to do when I 

1309
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,760
unplug is to do something really
normal like shopping and not 

1310
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,440
take my phone with me. 
Yeah, a raw, raw shopping trip. 

1311
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:39,720
I've heard that Gen. 
Z is calling things without 

1312
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,120
phones like a raw walk or it's 
like whatever you do with. 

1313
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,520
A raw, Yeah, that's exactly it. 
I love it. 

1314
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,400
So freeing. 
I love it. 

1315
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,960
So that's what I do, yeah. 
What is 1 simple tech Wellness 

1316
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,480
practice that you wish everybody
would try for a week? 

1317
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,520
Oh, just unplugging for one hour
and if that's too hard 1/2 an 

1318
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,720
hour, just try it. 
Just try to leave your phone and

1319
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,920
do something normal like they're
saying do the raw thing and if 

1320
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,520
it's a walk that you always have
to have your phone with you. 

1321
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,760
If it's right before bed, just 
avoid it even for 1/2 an hour 

1322
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,720
and just really really be 
intentional and feel what you're

1323
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,840
feeling. 
Yeah, I think people will notice

1324
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,920
a difference. 
With that, that I love a daily 

1325
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,200
detox. 
Yeah, that's what we recommend. 

1326
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,600
Where can people find you? 
Learn more about your products. 

1327
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,000
Tell us about the book that 
you're writing and when that's 

1328
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,880
coming out. 
Oh, it'll be all over my 

1329
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,360
Instagram for sure. 
So I'm on all the channels and 

1330
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,640
also visit my website, 
techwellness.com, where we have 

1331
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,320
a whole shopping section and an 
information section all about 

1332
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,440
all the tech toxins that we 
talked about. 

1333
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,600
Amazing. 
Thank you so much for coming. 

1334
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,440
It was so fun finally meeting 
you after following you online 

1335
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:52,880
for years and years and having 
so many mutual friends. 

1336
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,200
Thank you so much for the work 
that you're doing. 

1337
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,720
It's so, so important. 
Back at you, Bethany. 

1338
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,680
Thank you so much. 
It's just beautiful here. 

1339
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:00,440
I appreciate it.