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Welcome to Grounded Wellness, 
your go to podcast for 

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simplified and trusted 
information on how to live a 

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more non-toxic and holistic 
life. 

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We are your hosts. 
I'm Bethany McDaniel, founder of

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Primarily Pure biohacking 
enthusiast and mom of three. 

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And I'm Courtney O'Connor, 
holistic esthetician with over 

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15 years experience in the 
healing power of touch and 

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holistic skin care rituals. 
If you deeply care about the 

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health and well-being of your 
family and want actionable, 

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simple steps to start 
eliminating toxins from your 

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life, this episode is for you. 
Today I'm chatting with my good 

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friends Kelly Love of Branch 
Basics, which in my opinion are 

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the most effective non-toxic and
safe cleaning products on the 

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market. 
Kelly unexpectedly started 

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Branch Basics 12 years ago with 
her best friend Allison and 

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Allison's aunt Marilee. 
After spending a blissful summer

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reconnecting to nature and a 
holistic approach to everyday 

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life, Kelly is here to guide you
through how to detox your life 

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and boost well for yourself and 
your loved ones. 

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Let's dig in, Kelly. 
Welcome to the Grounded Wellness

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podcast. 
So good to have you here. 

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I'm so excited. 
This is like a dream. 

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We are grounding right now. 
You are like one of the biggest 

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grounding people I know. 
In fact, after Kelly flew in 

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last night, she came over and 
right away she was, I was like 

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making dinner with the kids and 
she was like, I just need to 

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like put on my grounding shoes 
and go for a walk after flying. 

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And then I took them off halfway
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In the Meadow with all the red 
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That's that's hardcore. 
I love it. 

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Let's get right into it. 
I bet when you were in college 

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you never would have thought 
that you would start and be the 

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face of a non-toxic cleaning 
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Tell us how that all happened. 
How did Branch Basics get 

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started? 
Yeah, in college I was actually 

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a kinesiology major because I 
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instructor and hopefully have my
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And so I think there was like, 
there's always been obviously 

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this little entrepreneur spirit 
in me, but never would I thought

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that I would go like learn, open
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of non-toxic living. 
And then, yeah, started cleaning

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products company grew up 
standard American diet, all 

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conventional. 
Went to college at University of

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Texas in Austin. 
Met Allison, my Co founder best 

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friend and all of a sudden she 
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Like in high school she'd been 
diagnosed with PCOS, had many 

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many cysts on her ovaries but 
you know, still active and felt 

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good. 
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started just breaking down. 
Her body started breaking down, 

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losing motor skill. 
She went to grab the carton of 

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milk one day and it just dropped
out of her hand and she's in 

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chronic pain head to toe. 
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answers and seeking doctors all 
around the country for two 

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years. 
Like no doctors could figure out

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what was wrong with her. 
She was on an ever growing list 

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of medications and therapies. 
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muscle relaxers, painkillers, 
antidepressants, like a whole 

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list and not getting any relief.
And so she finally started being

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open to other options and she 
talked to her aunt. 

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Marilee was our third Co founder
and her aunt had been consulting

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extremely chemically sensitive 
and chronically ill people for a

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long time. 
Allison's like, OK, what is my 

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aunt in the Hill Country in 
Texas going to know that these 

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top specialists didn't and 
merrily starts asking her 

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questions like, what are you 
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Give me a diet diary. 
What are you using to clean your

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house with? 
What personal care products are 

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you using? 
Do you have the exterminator tum

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and spray pesticides regularly? 
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Allison had never been asked, it
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family history and genetics and 
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And so finally, Allison's like, 
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something I can do. 
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feel like there's something I 
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And so I'm her roommate and best
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And watching this whole process 
go down and I'm like, this just 

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makes so much sense. 
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on and around ourselves everyday
impacts how we feel and our, you

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know, immediate health and long 
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And so Allison starts feeling 
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And we asked Marilyn if we can 
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And. 
What was her response? 

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She was like, I like, I'm going 
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And she's like, I think like, 
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got to be something big going on
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grads that could go anywhere. 
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going overseas and traveling and
doing like a cooking spa in 

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Italy. 
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want to learn from you, Marilyn.
And she's like, OK, like there's

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something going on here. 
I want to, you know, I want to 

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teach y'all. 
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that I've learned about 
grounding and juicing like 

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actual vegetables. 
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literally waking up every 
morning, getting sunlight in our

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eyes, walking barefoot on the 
grass, drinking organic juice, 

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eating only organic food, 
getting plenty of fresh air and 

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movement, and listening to 
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And all while living in a 
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Like after a few days, were you 
guys like struggling with 

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anything or the whole time was 
it just like, this is awesome, 

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this is great, We love this. 
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detox symptoms because for me, I
show up and I'm like smelling 

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very fragrant for my laundry 
detergent that I'd used my whole

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life. 
So she's like, we're going to, 

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we're going to put your clothes.
She's so sweet. 

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We're going to put your clothes 
outside in the sun and detox and

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out gas them. 
And I'm like, OK, what does that

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mean? 
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clothes outside and why? 
And so she's explaining to me 

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about the fragrance and the 
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sheets, but I had used them my 
whole life so I couldn't really 

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smell of and it was wild. 
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able to smell them and unmask 
and I started to realize, OK, 

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this is when I'm around. 
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guess like my eye were watery 
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My headaches. 
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would get a headache. 
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experience being able to see the
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how I felt because it was the 
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eaten organic and been in this 
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My body was like dumping toxins,
like they were stored in my fat 

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tissues and organs. 
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like so heavy, like I'm like, Oh
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What else were you doing to kind
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toxins and get them out of your 
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So we she had an infrared sauna.
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would go on walks every morning,
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dinner, she taught us about dry 
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And it was just like little free
tools that I was learning that 

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was so cool just how to how to 
care for my body and help like 

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support it while it was 
eliminating. 

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But it wasn't anything like 
crazy or drastic, like we 

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weren't doing any targeted 
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regimens. 
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back to basics of eating real 
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you know, and just helping our 
body eliminate and do its thing.

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Gentle, accessible stuff, yeah. 

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And that's what I love so much 
about Branch Basics and the 

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content that you guys share is 
that it's not these, most of the

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time, these like intense things 
that are not accessible to 

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people. 
It's like easy, simple, often 

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times free tweaks that almost 
anyone can do to change their 

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lives and change their health 
for the better. 

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But I want to go back to 
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How did she become an expert in 
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Because she was so far ahead of 
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How did she come to have this 
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So she grew up very sickly, 

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always having to miss school and
miss out on events and traveling

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because she was just always 
getting sick and could, again, 

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doctors couldn't really figure 
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And in her 20s, she had 
exploratory surgery. 

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And she was so excited to 
finally, like, get answers. 

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And they told her you're going 
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your endometriosis is so bad 
you're likely never have 

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children. 
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frame of reference for like 
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But she just, I love this. 
Like she just didn't go into 

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fear mode and she just said, no,
I know there's another way. 

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Like what if what if there's a 
cure, you know, that's 

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discovered that would allow me 
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Like I'm not going to be subject
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Like I know there's another way 
before the. 

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Internet for access to all of 
like the information we have 

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today. 
Yeah, so she comes across like I

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just brought her this 
information of a doctor in 

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Boston using food as medicine, 
and she went all in. 

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She literally threw out all of 
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refrigerator and went from being
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American diet to literally not 
taking a single bite of food 

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outside of this organic food as 
medicine prescription she was 

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given and in 10 days completely 
healed her kidney damage and was

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not never had to get a kidney 
transplant and has never been on

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a prescription medication sick. 
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And so she knew all about food 
and the power of food from that 

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experience. 
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medicinal chef and started 
cooking for clients that were 

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sick. 
She did get pregnant and she had

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a son who is brilliant and 
healthy and at 10 years old was 

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exposed to high levels of 
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So he had a pesticide poisoning 
and went from being athletic, 

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coordinated, brilliant to not 
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word or walk a straight line and
hardly left his head off the 

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pillow. 
And so they saw the top poison 

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control doctors who said 
essentially he would be a bubble

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boy for the rest of his life. 
They needed to create a safe 

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room for him with like pretty 
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organic mattress. 
And he would have to take shots 

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for the rest of his life, 
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And again, Marilyn just refused 
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option and just knew there had 
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determined to get her son back. 
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just a safe room for him. 
They wanted to create a whole 

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house safe home for him. 
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their house to like bare bones 
minimum like a wooden table, 

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organic mattress, like just the 
essential and lived. 

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Outside for a while and. 
Left outside because he was so 

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sensitive, basically his 
detoxification system and his 

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brain and immune system we're 
all so severely damaged that he 

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couldn't be around anything 
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reactions. 
Like lymph nodes would swell up.

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He would go from being like 
super sound sensitive to and, 

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and like hardly having any 
energy to them, like being off 

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the walls and being super 
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Like it was really interesting 
because she could see he was 

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like the Canary in the coal mine
telling her how he would react 

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to different exposures, 
chemicals. 

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And so they slept outside. 
She thought she had done 

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everything she could to make her
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And one night she's, she's on 
the caught, like, you know, 

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having a conversation with 
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Like, what am I missing? 
Why is he not able to stay 

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inside? 
And she thought about this box 

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of her favorite personal care 
products and perfumes, etcetera,

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that she was keeping a box in 
her bathroom. 

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And she was like, I need to just
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I'm not going to tell him or my 
son or my husband and just see 

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what happens. 
Like, that's crazy, but I'm 

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going to try it. 
Well, sure enough, after that, 

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after she removed that box of, 
of fragrance, you know, 

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products, the next day he comes 
in and he's like, mom, what'd 

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you do? 
I'm not feeling like I need to 

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get outside. 
And she's like, OK, let's just 

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see how long you can stay. 
He ends up sleeping in the house

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that night. 
And he had no idea, right? 

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He had no idea. 
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husband cuz she was like, 
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we're all kind of like living in
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products are sealed and closed. 
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products that we bring in our 
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volatile organic compounds, 
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and creating a body burden that 
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detoxify. 
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products and the chemicals were 
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powerhouse for his healing. 
He fully recovered and graduated

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the top of his class in the 
Naval Academy, married with 

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three children, brilliant and 
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people wanted help there, you 
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it didn't matter what the 
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was. 
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with, you know, going category 
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get toxic products out of their 
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products, fragrance products, 
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toxic, like biggest offenders, 
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you don't have to throw these 
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Just just just take a chance and
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box and get them outside so at 
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know, everyday environment. 
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over kept having success. 
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things in there and there are 
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things with genetics and all and
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trauma that can all 'cause 
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quality with food has been so 
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over and over again. 
It's like so far ahead of her 

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time with that, because I feel 
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period and even a few decades 
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caused by genetics, right? 
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predisposed to this, Therefore 
that's my destiny. 

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Like my mom had this, my grandma
had this, right? 

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I'm probably going to have this,
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Merrily Merrily's approach is so
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just accepting, you know, 
whatever your mom or your 

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grandma had as being your 
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like, no, I, I have the, the 
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the decisions I'm making and 
what I'm allowing into my home 

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and the foods that I'm eating. 
And now there's so much 

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information, you know, coming 
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genetics, load the gun, but 
lifestyle, thoughts, diet, all 

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these things we're talking about
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So I'm just always amazed by 
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all of that information and, and
how many people she's helped 

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with it. 
And she couldn't really find a 

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lot of information in the US, 
She started finding information 

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about the brain and movement 
being nourishment for the brain 

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and in Europe. 
So a lot of people in Germany 

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were starting to study this. 
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like without any Internet. 
It was amazing. 

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But she, yes, I think what you 
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She refused to just kind of take
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diagnosis as if it was the only 
way, you know. 

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And I think that is the first 
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because our, our mindset and 
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huge. 
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we invite you to do this with 
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Like, we invite you to take this
opportunity to toss the toxins 

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instead of feeling like, Oh my 
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gonna be like poisoning myself 
and my family and like going 

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into this fierce state and. 
Then people get paralyzed and do

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nothing. 
Yes, yeah, exactly. 

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Yeah. 
But yeah, Marilyn is definitely 

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ahead of our time. 
And because of that, she has 

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been so valuable in helping us 
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what she has seen for decades 
with her clients, you know, and 

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she's always like, Nope, that 
ingredients going to become the 

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next big thing that you know, or
that ingredient and like, we're 

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not going to allow it. 
And I'm so thankful for that. 

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And that's what her experience 
and her knowledge and has really

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enabled us to create products 
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confident that they're the same,
safest, best for our customers. 

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And so actually back to your 
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products company, we started off
like telling everyone, our 

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friends and family and started a
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the things, you know, sauna, 
supplements, cleaning products, 

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diet, water filters, you name 
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And everyone was really 
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I mean, sorry, really 
overwhelmed and confused, but 

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overwhelmed and didn't know 
where to start. 

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And we just kept finding 
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cleaning products. 
It's an easy first step. 

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Make such a huge impact in your 
air quality and you don't have 

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to think about it multiple times
a day. 

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Like your food, you know, and 
it's you're not like addicted to

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it like like food or sugar or 
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So that's kind of how we landed 
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because there it was an easy 
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need for truly clean products 
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and you know, cuz non-toxic on a
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It doesn't really mean anything.
It's not regulated and all 

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natural. 
It doesn't mean anything. 

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And so we saw a need and we saw 
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for people. 
And really our mission and our 

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heart is to educate on all 
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And so we kind of viewed it as 
like a way to get in the door 

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with people. 
It's like, OK, if people can 

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start thinking about what 
cleaning products am I bringing 

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into my home, then we can then 
get them start thinking about 

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all the rest you know of, of the
things they're putting in on and

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around themselves everyday. 
Yeah. 

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Absolutely. 
And you guys do such a good job 

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of that, of educating. 
I don't think most people know 

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the powerhouse of information 
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that, which is like Marilee and 
now you and Allison. 

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We don't often see Marilee like 
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but she's like, she's. 
Behind all the vlogs. 

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Yeah, What about going back to 
cleaning products? 

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What are some toxic household 
cleaning items that people might

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be surprised by that are in 
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So cleaning. 
Specifically cleaning. 

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Anything, Any household toxins 
that would just surprise people 

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to know about. 
Gosh, well, I mean, I think 

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people just don't even realize 
the amount of products they keep

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in their homes that they don't 
need. 

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And so we have all these, these 
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everything from bug sprays, like
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like the lice treatments that we
put on our heads, like all these

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pesticides that we are that are 
designed to kill that we're just

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putting a lot of times like it, 
they'll be in people's pantries 

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next to their food. 
And so I would say the, the, the

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everyday kind of pesticides and 
and then just cleaning products 

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in particular I think of. 
Like dryer sheets and laundry as

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some of the biggest culprits 
because we never escape our 

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laundry. 
Guy can smell it from the street

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walking by a house that is using
dryer sheets and like toxic 

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laundry products and they're. 
Designed to cling to your 

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clothes like, you know, to give 
that long lasting freshness and 

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so the phthalates and like the 
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added to keep. 
Those smells sticky. 

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Yes, fragrant for a long time. 
It just makes it where they 

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impregnate every porous material
in your home, your walls, your 

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furniture, you know, and then 
obviously your clothes and, and 

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you're, so you're absorbing it 
and inhaling it. 

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It's just the worst. 
I always think if I can smell 

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this walking outside of a house,
like what are those people that 

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are in the house, you know, 
doing laundry? 

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I mean, I grew up using that and
I, I became, our bodies are 

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amazing. 
And I became like, you know, 

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masked to it and adapted and I 
now can smell it from a mile 

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away and my body starts to give 
me the red flags immediately. 

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And it's so it's been so fun 
because I've gotten family 

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members and friends on board to,
you know, switch and just try. 

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I'm like, Oh my. 
It's just like, just take a 

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challenge. 
Like view it as a challenge. 

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Just do it for like 30 days. 
And unfortunately those 

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chemicals can take a long time 
to get out of your clothes. 

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It can take like 7 to 10 washes.
And so speeding, putting it up 

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out in the sun can speed it up. 
The people that do it are now 

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telling me when they go on walks
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they can even smell the people 
like as they're running by that 

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are using the same products that
they used to use but couldn't 

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smell. 
And so it's, you know, Allison 

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always talks about it like it's 
like if you used to smoke and 

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you're now and then you quit, 
you like can't stand being 

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around cigarette smoke. 
And it's kind of that same 

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thing. 
But yeah, I would say laundry 

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product is like a major place to
look at. 

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And then just anything with 
disinfectants because they're 

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usually going to have an API 
registered pesticide. 

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OK. 
You mentioned disinfectants. 

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What is the difference between 
disinfecting and removing germs?

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Yeah. 
So we're big proponents of 

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removing versus trying to kill 
because when you try and kill, 

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undoubtedly there's going to be 
something leftover that that 

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lives. 
And we're moving with soap and 

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water is actually much more 
effective. 

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You're removing the germs and 
not leaving that chance for 

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mutation. 
And also the disinfectants, like

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I said, are designed to kill. 
And so you're disrupting your 

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microbiome, your gut. 
Pesticides are some of the most 

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toxic products that we have in 
our homes. 

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Like I said, I mean, since the 
introduction of home pesticides,

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childhood cancer has gone up 
28%. 

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And so we always take this 
approach of like, less is more 

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and you don't need to expose 
yourself to these things. 

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But because of all the 
marketing, we've come to believe

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that, like, we have to kill all 
the germs to keep our family 

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safe. 
Oftentimes, these chemical 

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pesticides are making our immune
systems weaker. 

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They're adding more stress to 
our bodies. 

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And so it's actually doing more 
harm than good. 

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And when you just remove germs 
with soap and water, you're not 

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having that negative impact and 
exposure on your body, and 

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you're actually creating a 
cleaner surface. 

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Yeah, that totally. 
Makes sense. 

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So our most would you say like 
most your average cleaner that 

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you would find at the grocery 
store is a disinfectant and not 

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something that would actually 
like remove germs. 

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Well, they, I mean usually you 
know, you'll, you'll know if it 

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says disinfectant or sanitizer 
or kills versus just like an 

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all-purpose cleaner, surface 
cleaner, something like that. 

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And actually is recommended to 
clean a surface before you even 

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use the disinfectant. 
Like the disinfectant 

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instructions will say that 
because it's not as effective if

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you don't clean at first because
it's the dirt and grime and dust

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can affect it. 
And then also you're supposed to

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keep it on for like 10 minutes 
and no one doesn't know. 

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So they're just not effective 
and they are, like I said, 

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exposing you to more harm than 
good. 

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Even if you don't want to use 
branch basics, just use like hot

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water or bar soap and lemon 
juice, baking soda. 

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There's so many simple things to
use. 

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But if you do want something 
that gives that cofactor, then 

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you can use vinegar and hydrogen
peroxide. 

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You don't want to mix them 
together because when they're 

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mixed they can create harmful 
fumes. 

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But separately, like if you 
spray one and then spray the 

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other, those two have been found
to be just as effective as as 

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bleach. 
Wow. 

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Is there a scenario that you 
would do that personally like in

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your home? 
So I have a trigger, I mean 

452
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,800
sorry hydrogen peroxide bottle 
with a trigger spray on it 

453
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280
because you want to keep it in 
the brown bottle of the amber 

454
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,000
bottle. 
I have one under my sink and 

455
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:06,040
there have been times where like
after raw meat or a sick kid 

456
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,760
that I've sprayed it. 
But honestly I haven't even done

457
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,080
that in like years and I just I 
we've never had an issue. 

458
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,600
My husband was a doctor on the 
COVID floor and we just use 

459
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,600
branch basics and never had any 
issues. 

460
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,760
I think it's more I tell it to 
people who need it for the Peace

461
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,080
of Mind. 
Right, right. 

462
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,720
That makes sense. 
I think another wild thing that 

463
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,000
I learned from you guys about 
different household cleaners is 

464
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,040
that so there's when you go to 
the store, there's like the 

465
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,360
toilet cleaner and then the dish
soap cleaner, like all these 

466
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:43,600
different ones. 
And that differs from your 

467
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,400
approach, which is 1 concentrate
in different, you know, levels 

468
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,200
and solutions to loaded with 
water for different areas of the

469
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000
house. 
But I always grew up thinking, 

470
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720
oh, you need a totally different
products for your toilet then 

471
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,560
you need for your counters or 
what not. 

472
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,800
When in reality, that's all just
kind of a marketing gimmick, 

473
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,880
right? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

474
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,960
So it's different levels of 
water and like a few drops of 

475
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,200
chemicals, but it's pretty much 
all the same thing. 

476
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:17,440
It's really for people mentally 
to that struggle with throwing 

477
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,400
the same thing on your toilet as
your countertop. 

478
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
They want to like, nuke the 
toilet and then be a little more

479
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,000
gentle on the countertop. 
And just like the idea of having

480
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,360
the same cleaning products in 
for your like that can be safe 

481
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:37,280
on your skin and your toilet or 
all your vegetables and your 

482
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,440
toilet, like it's really hard 
for people to. 

483
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,040
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it 
would do its job. 

484
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920
If it's safe enough to like 
exactly like your skin, yes. 

485
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,080
Like it's not strong enough and 
then also just for marketing to 

486
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,000
sell more products. 
I mean, because really our 

487
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,120
bathroom cleaner and our street 
free cleaner is all comes from 

488
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,760
the same stuff with the street 
free cleaner has way more water.

489
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,040
And so when you're buying 
different products on the shelf,

490
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,360
yeah, it's like you're basically
buying water with a few drops of

491
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,360
chemicals. 
And said the concentrate model 

492
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,120
allows you to use not only one 
thing that's safe for everything

493
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:18,080
and like easily replace dozens 
of different cleaners at one 

494
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,240
time without having to research 
an oven cleaner, a bathroom 

495
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,480
cleaner, etcetera. 
But you get to just use one 

496
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,360
thing and mix it yourself with 
different, you know, small 

497
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,880
amounts with water and it's just
really. 

498
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,640
And see how the same thing can 
be effective. 

499
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,600
Yeah and all around your house. 
And it just that simplicity like

500
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,160
the whole. 
You're always such an 

501
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,720
inspiration to me with like 
minimizing and the simplicity of

502
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,320
getting rid of like 30 different
cleaning products and then just 

503
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,080
having one concentrate and then 
a, you know, a few different 

504
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,800
spray bottles that is healthy 
like that, that takes the 

505
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,480
stressor off of your body. 
You mentioned some of the DIY 

506
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,440
things that people can do to 
clean. 

507
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,480
You guys always have so many 
good, like easy, you know, tips 

508
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,120
and hacks for people to create a
safer home environment. 

509
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,640
What are some like low hanging 
fruit things that people can do 

510
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,080
to improve the quality of air in
their home? 

511
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960
Other than removal, which we 
talked about, Yeah. 

512
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,080
Well, first I want to say that I
just realized I forgot to 

513
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,480
mention this, that we often 
think that just because the 

514
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,200
product is on store shelves that
it's been tested for safety and 

515
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,240
that's not the case. 
And skin care, yes, exactly as 

516
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760
you all know. 
And, and then with cleaning 

517
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,800
products, unlike skin care, 
we're not even required to list 

518
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,200
our ingredients on the bottle. 
And so many times cleaning 

519
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840
products don't have an 
ingredient list when when I talk

520
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,960
about removal and going around 
your home and let you know, 

521
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360
getting out pesticides and 
getting out toxic cleaning 

522
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,160
products. 
When it comes to cleaning 

523
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,200
products, some easy things to 
look for are an ingredient list.

524
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,360
If it if there's not one and 
that's a red flag. 

525
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,800
And then words like caution, 
danger, warning, of course 

526
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
you're going to see like keep 
out of reach of children. 

527
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,320
That's just to be expected that.
But the caution warning and 

528
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,040
danger are indicative of more 
hazardous classifications. 

529
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360
And so those are not products 
you want in your home. 

530
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,680
And and then anything with 
fragrance like that single word 

531
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,240
fragrance as you know is 
protected trade secret like can 

532
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,360
contain hundreds of different 
chemicals, asthmogens, 

533
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,120
obesogens, allergens, 
neurotoxins, carcinogens, 

534
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,360
endocrine disruptors. 
So those like three kind of 

535
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,400
categories of pesticides, 
cleaning products and fragrance,

536
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,520
which goes into personal care, 
candles, cleaning products, all 

537
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,280
that can immediately make a 
dramatic improvement in your air

538
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,920
quality. 
And we always say better air 

539
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400
means better health. 
For people that get really 

540
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,320
overwhelmed by the thought of of
getting all these products out 

541
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,960
of their house or or get 
throwing them away, we always 

542
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,360
say you don't have to throw them
away. 

543
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,520
We like to tell people to just 
get like those big Sterilite 

544
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,840
boxes, those big bends and put 
everything in there and just 

545
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,200
take it outside for a little 
bit, like 30 days, maybe 60 days

546
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,440
and just see how you feel, see 
how your family feels, your pets

547
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,160
feel. 
Just getting rid of that 

548
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,800
exposure versus thinking of it 
as like, oh, what new things can

549
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,600
I add? 
Like air purifier, What new 

550
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,760
supplements can I get? 
Like those things can be great, 

551
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,200
but creating that foundation of 
getting the the harmful 

552
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,600
stressors out is going to just 
set you up for the biggest first

553
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,240
step is the biggest first step. 
Yeah. 

554
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,360
So that is like hack number one,
just remove the harmful stuff. 

555
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,680
And EWG, the environmental 
working group is a great 

556
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,200
resource. 
We like to tell people to go to 

557
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,000
the skin deep website because 
and really look at everything 

558
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,680
based on the ingredients versus 
just an overall product rating. 

559
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,040
Because there can be ingredients
like have like, you know, a 

560
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,040
higher rating, like a 10 for the
overall product rating can be 

561
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,920
good. 
And so if you just start with 

562
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120
the bottom of the list, the 
ingredient list, you know, 

563
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
because usually the some of the 
most toxic ones are at the 

564
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,880
bottom for preservatives. 
But then obviously that single 

565
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,520
word fragrance, that's an easy 
one to spot. 

566
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,840
And usually that can be higher 
up. 

567
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,440
But but going through and 
looking at ingredient list, once

568
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520
you do it, it's that finite 
process. 

569
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960
You get it out, you find your 
brands and you're done. 

570
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640
Where is, you know, like with 
food, that can be harder because

571
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440
you're, you're having to think 
about it multiple times a day 

572
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,680
and, and what you're eating. 
So the whole removal process, I 

573
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,520
know it can sound daunting, but 
there are ways to to make it 

574
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,720
easier and to kind of just allow
your your body to get a break at

575
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,440
all at once like that by putting
them outside and then slowly 

576
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,560
going through them and replacing
them over time. 

577
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760
And it's a good first step of 
like, OK, I'm not getting rid of

578
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,160
it yet. 
I'm just putting it outside, but

579
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,560
I don't think there's probably 
ever been anyone who has taken 

580
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,080
on that challenge and decided at
the end of it, actually, I want 

581
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,200
to bring everything back in my. 
Exactly, that's what I said. 

582
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Because just getting it out, you
realize 1 I don't need all this 

583
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:18,000
stuff and two, like I when I go 
back to my box to get some 

584
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,640
unlikely getting like runny nose
or sneezing, coughing or mighty 

585
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,800
head will start hurting all 
those. 

586
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920
Signals that have been 
suppressed, that are really just

587
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,000
like such a gift of our bodies 
to alert us when we're in like a

588
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,760
dangerous environment. 
That was the biggest thing that 

589
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,320
I learned from merely is just 
like starting to connect the 

590
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,320
dots when I had a symptom and 
think about and. 

591
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,600
And not to the point where I'm 
like always freaking about about

592
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,160
everything around me and 
thinking, Oh my gosh, did this, 

593
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880
'cause this did that, that 
caused that. 

594
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,960
But just to start being aware 
and like, like tuning, acting 

595
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,360
the dot. 
Yeah, which? 

596
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Is so different from Western 
medicine, which is like, OK 

597
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680
symptom, here's a medication 
that lines up with this symptom.

598
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,480
This is your protocol. 
It's like, OK, no, I'm 

599
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,360
experiencing this. 
Like, why? 

600
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,920
What, where was I? 
What happened? 

601
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,840
What did I products did I use? 
What foods did I eat? 

602
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,240
And kind of, yeah, figuring out 
your body and like what your 

603
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680
body's trying to tell you. 
Yeah, it's like being a little 

604
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,600
investigator. 
Yeah. 

605
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,320
And that's like what Marilyn was
doing when she asked Allison all

606
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,360
those questions. 
Yeah. 

607
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Like to figure out more of the 
underlying 'cause right removal 

608
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,880
and then just getting fresh air 
into your home and flushing it 

609
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,680
out and then a really 
interesting like inexpensive 

610
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,600
hack for air purification. 
You can make your own air 

611
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,720
purifier just with a 20 by 20 
box fan and putting a Filtry 

612
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,520
filter 20 by 20 Filtry filter 
onto it. 

613
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,680
And when you turn on the fan, 
it'll suction the filter to it. 

614
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:53,840
And like that can be a really 
easy and expensive way to like 

615
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240
get better air, especially in 
your bedroom. 

616
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Like I always tell people to 
start with your bedroom or 

617
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Merrily has always taught us to 
start with your bedroom because 

618
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120
when you sleep at night, that's 
when your body is meant to 

619
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000
repair and rejuvenate and rest 
and heal. 

620
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,360
And so the, the more you can 
take the burden off of the body 

621
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,040
at night and the more you know 
healing will happen. 

622
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,600
And so look, I get it, air 
purifiers can be really 

623
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,440
expensive, but if you can just 
put a box fan in every bedroom, 

624
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,440
like that's huge that. 
Is such a good tip. 

625
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,040
We did that when we were demoing
and remodeling our master 

626
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,560
bedroom because there's so many 
particulates in the air during 

627
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,639
that time. 
And we had a few of them going 

628
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,400
and. 
And I would replace them every 

629
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,400
so often. 
And one time I remember bringing

630
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,440
in a replacement and, like, 
lining them up side by side with

631
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,880
the one that we had that I had 
just taken off. 

632
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,360
I mean, it was filthy. 
Like, it really works. 

633
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,040
It collects so much. 
Yeah. 

634
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,239
That's an amazing hack. 
Yeah. 

635
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,199
OK, I have to try this. 
Yeah, yeah. 

636
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Wait, tell me what's in this 
real quick. 

637
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,400
OK, so this is raw beef liver, 
raw milk, raw mint from the 

638
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,200
primary pure farm, the mint 
berries and honey barrel 

639
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,040
pastures honey. 
I'm not just saying this because

640
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,800
you're my friend. 
This is truly the best liver 

641
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,680
smoothie I've ever had. 
Right. 

642
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,120
It doesn't. 
I don't even taste the liver. 

643
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,840
Yeah, like is there. 
It has a decent hammer. 

644
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,000
Yeah. 
OK. 

645
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,920
I'm glad you like it. 
Really good. 

646
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,120
I was not expecting it to be 
that. 

647
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,360
You. 
Tried had a liver smoothie 

648
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,800
before and. 
Mine are never that good. 

649
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,800
Getting into some family, 
motherhood things. 

650
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,760
How do you live a healthy 
lifestyle and maintain a 

651
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,960
non-toxic home when your family,
like spouse or extended family 

652
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,640
may not be on board with your 
choices? 

653
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Yeah, I definitely have that 
scenario in a few different 

654
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120
areas. 
I was actually just at my my 

655
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,000
mom's house this past weekend. 
And it's just funny to me 

656
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480
because I'm like, people 
probably think, oh, Kelly like 

657
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000
has it so easy because she owns 
branch basics and like 

658
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,520
everything's so natural around 
her. 

659
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Like my mom and stepdad are not 
live in the branch basic 

660
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,160
lifestyle. 
And so anyway, I've had to 

661
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,680
navigate like, cuz I've been 
what, almost been like 15 years 

662
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:14,200
since I've been living this way.
And so it's just my norm. 

663
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,520
But I've had to go through 
periods where I've realized like

664
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
I came on too strong. 
I tried to like push it on 

665
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:26,000
people and often times it's just
better for me to do my thing 

666
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,200
and, you know, if people are 
interested, then I'll tell more,

667
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520
but not trying to like push it 
on people. 

668
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,640
And so that's where, you know, 
that's where we're at with my 

669
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520
mom and stuff that it's worth it
to me to make go through the 

670
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:44,720
extra effort and to carry the 
the weight of making the the 

671
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:51,400
choices for our home and, you 
know, groceries and all that. 

672
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,240
That. 
Like my husband is on board and 

673
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,000
he is supportive about almost 
everything, but he's not going 

674
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,800
to be the one like spearheading,
spearheading this and doing the 

675
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,040
research and getting really 
nerdy about like the latest and 

676
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,200
greatest, you know, help hacks. 
But he's so appreciative. 

677
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,400
I. 
Know with my husband too. 

678
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400
I was kind of the one, I mean, 
it was him and his family that 

679
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,400
started the farm. 
And so we were like both kind of

680
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,440
into healthy living at the time.
But I was really like reading 

681
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,520
the books and telling him out of
excitement about everything I 

682
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,880
was learning. 
And you know, right away I was 

683
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,880
ready to make the commitment and
change my diet, change my 

684
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,680
lifestyle kind of in real time 
as I was learning these things. 

685
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,360
And for him, it took a little 
while of him like seeing the 

686
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,000
difference, the changes that I 
was making and the difference 

687
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
that it made and how I felt and 
just my outlook. 

688
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,120
And then that is kind of, I 
think in time, what drew him in 

689
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,320
more to it. 
And and just like me making, 

690
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,600
taking the first steps and 
making it accessible and making 

691
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,520
those changes in our home, 
right. 

692
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Like you, like your husband 
wasn't opposed to it really, but

693
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,760
just probably wouldn't have 
taken that first step. 

694
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Yeah. 
But for people that do kind of 

695
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,760
learn about this after having 
used all conventional products 

696
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,440
forever, and then their spouse 
is like, wait, what? 

697
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
What's going on? 
Why you want to throw everything

698
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,920
out? 
I always recommend like, you 

699
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,840
don't need to go in and create 
fear and tell everyone, Oh my 

700
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,120
gosh, like we've got to throw 
out all this poisonous stuff. 

701
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,760
But go under the radar and 
switch out the things that you 

702
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,320
can that don't really impact 
people in a big way. 

703
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Like they won't notice, 
especially if you have the older

704
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,560
kids. 
Like cleaning products again, is

705
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,480
something that is pretty easy to
do. 

706
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,200
But something I think about the 
most for me is like when we're 

707
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,880
traveling, I am willing to go 
through the extra effort of like

708
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,960
packing, you know, some extra 
like beach towels, even though 

709
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,200
the place may have towel towels 
at the house that we're renting 

710
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,800
at the beach, because I want to 
make sure that the towels are 

711
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,360
fragrance free. 
And I'm going to bring my branch

712
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,880
basics with me and I'm going to 
bring food and make sure we have

713
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,120
clean water and like kind of the
basics. 

714
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,400
This is important to me. 
And so people might look at that

715
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,520
and say like, OK, that's not 
worth, worth effort. 

716
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,160
But I always tell people I'm 
like, if, if it's important to 

717
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,840
you, then like people can't 
argue with that. 

718
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:21,000
And, and so I have learned when 
to keep my mouth shut and when 

719
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,400
to say something or let my 
actions speak louder than words.

720
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,160
And then when to kind of do 
things under the radar. 

721
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,080
And you kind of just have to 
gauge your audience because I 

722
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,720
think a lot of times people feel
judged even when you don't 

723
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,240
intend to, when you start 
educating about all this. 

724
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,560
But if you say it in a way that 
is truly trying to like educate 

725
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,120
or, or you share your own 
experience of like, I learned 

726
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,600
this and this helped me so much 
versus like, Oh my gosh, like, 

727
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,000
did you that's so bad for you. 
You should never eat that. 

728
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,840
Like that's so terrible, blah, 
blah, blah. 

729
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,960
I think that goes a long way. 
And so just being mindful of all

730
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,120
those things and. 
Knowing that if you believe in 

731
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,280
your heart that you're doing the
best thing for your family and 

732
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,760
you're willing to put in the 
effort, then tell other people 

733
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,720
like you do you. 
Let me do me. 

734
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,520
Yeah. 
I. 

735
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,480
Think that's hard when you first
get started? 

736
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,440
I know if me in the beginning 
when I was learning all this 

737
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,280
stuff, I wanted to shout it to 
the. 

738
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,560
Rooftop so passionate. 
I'm like, I was on our entire 

739
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,080
life about this. 
Like I right. 

740
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,120
It's so hard to like keep it in 
and learn to, you know that 

741
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,000
approach of knowing the right 
time like you're mentioning. 

742
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,560
But I think I've developed that 
ability over the years. 

743
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,200
Definitely didn't have it right 
away. 

744
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,000
I was more forceful. 
My friends are like, so are you 

745
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,560
about to like go live in a tree 
house, like and Kelly, like, 

746
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,680
just because we don't eat like 
you doesn't mean yeah, this it 

747
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,280
was. 
I came on strong at first, so I 

748
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,040
had to learn this, how to turn 
it down. 

749
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,840
Same. 
OK what about kids and like 

750
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,680
going into the school year? 
Healthy snack ideas for kids. 

751
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,840
I know you have so many just 
like fun kids snack swaps like 

752
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,760
your blue spirulina lemonade. 
So easy. 

753
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,600
And now kids love making it. 
What else do you do? 

754
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,240
Literally just even if we have 
like 1 lemon in the fridge, my 

755
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,520
daughter read. 
You know, we'll just get the 

756
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,320
lemon squeezer out and. 
She mix it, yeah. 

757
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
She'll do it all the time and, 
and just literally mix it with 

758
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,880
water and a little bit of the 
blue spirulina, which is so 

759
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,360
great because it doesn't have a 
strong taste. 

760
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,120
And then usually like either 
Maple syrup or a little bit of 

761
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,200
cavia leaf powder. 
That's amazing. 

762
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,640
It's. 
So easy and just, you know, 

763
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,600
they'll either use the frother 
because they love using the 

764
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,400
frother as you're cooking. 
Myself, a lot of frothing last 

765
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,800
night was in our table with my 
kids with belly. 

766
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,240
Or just like, stir it up with 
the pork and put some ice in 

767
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:52,440
there. 
And it's so good and it's so 

768
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,760
pretty. 
It looks like, yeah, literally 

769
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,680
looks like blue Gatorade. 
So fun. 

770
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,600
And I mean, there are other 
things other powders you can do 

771
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,800
with different colors even like,
you know, beet powder or 

772
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,920
whatever. 
And then I don't know, I'm 

773
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
always wanting to learn from you
about healthy snacks. 

774
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,080
But I think the biggest thing 
for me is just, and this is 

775
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,680
where my husband gets on board 
too. 

776
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,040
It's like we're more lenient 
with our kids when we're out at 

777
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,680
functions because they are in a 
healthy, strong place. 

778
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,720
If they are sick or if they're 
they, if they were going through

779
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,360
like a chronic illness, I would 
be much more stringent, I guess,

780
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,280
or I wouldn't be as LAX, I 
should say. 

781
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:38,720
But at home, I'm like, I don't 
want to have anything, any 

782
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,200
unhealthy snacks in our home 
because if it's there, then of 

783
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,400
course they're going to go to 
that. 

784
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,320
And so the more we can just make
our home kind of like a place 

785
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,320
where there are only healthy 
options and like real food 

786
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,040
options like fruit and 
vegetables and nuts. 

787
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,800
And then if they get hungry, 
they're going to eat something. 

788
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,120
And usually they end up just 
like making a smoothie or eating

789
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,000
yogurt and yeah, fruit and nuts.
You know when your kids are 

790
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,640
sick? 
I know you use garlic. 

791
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,440
Like tell me about the other 
day. 

792
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,000
You told me you made garlic 
drops. 

793
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,240
Oh yeah. 
Or read. 

794
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,000
Read the ear. 
Yeah. 

795
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,680
OK, tell me how you do that, and
tell me what else you do when 

796
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,640
your kids are sick. 
So yeah, she was congested and 

797
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,840
we've never had an earache so 
much. 

798
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Read is 7 1/2, George is 4 1/2 
and Griffin's almost 2. 

799
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,920
Never had an earache but there 
have been times where. 

800
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,720
Never had an ear infection. 
I'm sorry, ear infection. 

801
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,160
Thank you. 
But there have been times when 

802
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,280
Reed's ear is hurt. 
It's all so far it's only been 

803
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Reed and every time that she 
says that it's when she has 

804
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,600
congestion. 
I think it's just the pressure 

805
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,120
build up. 
I have made garlic oil drops by 

806
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,560
literally just chopping up 
garlic, putting it in a skillet 

807
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,440
with olive oil and simmering it 
so it doesn't like cook where 

808
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,680
you know, it starts to burn. 
But it just went as soon as you 

809
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,200
kind of start smelling the 
garlic smell and it's soft, turn

810
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,600
it off, let it cool down or 
strain it, let it cool down and 

811
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,080
then just use a dropper and put,
you know, drops in her ear and 

812
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,000
then put alarm compress like a 
warm towel over here. 

813
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,720
And every single time, well, 
she, her pain goes away and it's

814
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,040
never like progressed. 
That's so cool. 

815
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,680
So it's like things like that, 
that I am just so grateful to 

816
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:27,880
know and I'm so grateful that I 
knew all this before kids 

817
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,520
because I because I empathize 
with people who this is also new

818
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,720
and when and then if especially 
like if you're a mom and that's 

819
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,440
whole new, you're like trying to
figure out the best, but you 

820
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,360
don't like not ever. 
I I'm so blessed to have 

821
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Marilyn. 
I tell people all the time, 

822
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,800
like, I promise it'll just get 
easier and easier. 

823
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,480
And there's so many amazing 
resources and support systems 

824
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,920
now. 
And the, once you get over that 

825
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,120
mindset of thinking, oh, I, I 
have to take an antibiotic for 

826
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,240
this or I have to, you know, do 
this because you grew up doing 

827
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,640
that and you're willing to step 
out-of-the-box and try something

828
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,840
different. 
You just see that it works. 

829
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,800
And, and then it just gets 
easier and easier over time. 

830
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,320
And you're you start like 
finding new resources and people

831
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,280
friends that you can share ideas
with. 

832
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,440
Yes, overwhelming at first, but 
when you're on a journey, you 

833
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,080
know once you master one thing, 
it just becomes second nature 

834
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,280
and then you're ready to tackle 
that next thing and the next 

835
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960
thing and the. 
Beautiful thing about removal, 

836
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
going back to that for a second,
is that these chemicals impact 

837
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,160
the way we think and feel. 
And so a lot of times just 

838
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,600
getting them out, you actually 
start to like think more clearly

839
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,280
and not have as much brain fog 
and the overwhelm actually goes 

840
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,240
down. 
Yeah. 

841
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,200
OK. 
So you mentioned thoughts and 

842
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,600
feelings. 
Let's talk a little bit about 

843
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,640
that. 
I know you have spoken about 

844
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,160
this before. 
How do our emotions and our 

845
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,960
thoughts impact our whole body 
health? 

846
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,040
I mean, obviously there's a lot 
more awareness of like mind body

847
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:05,240
connection now, but I have just 
been so fascinated by the fact 

848
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:08,480
that every thought we think 
sends a cell to every signal in 

849
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,400
our body. 
So when we focus our mind on 

850
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:18,880
negative feelings of fear, 
resentment, bitterness, that 

851
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600
sends a signal to our body. 
And then our body starts to 

852
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,320
store these negative emotions 
and it can impact our organs, it

853
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,000
can impact our physical health. 
And so when we can actively like

854
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,560
consciously stop our thoughts 
from going down that negative 

855
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,680
rabbit hole and say like, no, 
I'm not going to, I'm not going 

856
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,440
to dwell in that. 
I'm going to choose hope, I'm 

857
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,960
going to choose faith, I'm going
to choose forgiveness. 

858
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,960
It actually impacts our physical
health in a, you know, in a 

859
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,920
positive way. 
So that's actually why we 

860
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,640
include emotions in our tossa 
toxins course, you know, along 

861
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,000
with the pesticides cleaning 
products, you're going to see 

862
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,120
emotions because it is such a 
huge part of our of our overall 

863
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,600
physical health. 
Oftentimes when people go 

864
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,680
through a detox or a cleanse 
like sadness or different 

865
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,280
emotions that may have come like
been stored and suppressed will 

866
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,800
come up and it'll be like, you 
know, so early I was talking 

867
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,640
about like living that merrily 
isn't having those detox 

868
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,800
symptoms. 
Emotions can be part of that 

869
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480
process. 
Health really is so multifaceted

870
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,960
and I love the work of Doctor 
Caroline Leaf in this area. 

871
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,160
And just, I think there's so 
much hope with like 

872
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,520
neuroplasticity, like yes, 
negative thoughts and emotions 

873
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,880
can wire our bodies negatively 
and secrete an imbalanced amount

874
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,040
of hormones and chemicals to 
like really throw things off. 

875
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,160
But we can rewire that by 
retraining our brain to think 

876
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,120
about a certain experience with 
a positive light or with 

877
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,160
gratitude. 
It's just really a matter of 

878
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,480
like holding those thoughts 
captive and having a say in in 

879
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480
what we're thinking and not just
kind of like letting our 

880
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,400
thoughts happen to us, which is 
easier said than done, but it is

881
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,360
possible. 
Yeah, I love that, But don't 

882
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,040
believe everything you think. 
Yes. 

883
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaking of neuroplasticity, 
when Douglas Marilee's son was 

884
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,960
exposed to those chemicals and 
told that he would be bubble boy

885
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,560
forever, they didn't know, like 
the medical world didn't know 

886
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,760
about neuroplasticity then. 
And so again, it just goes to 

887
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,640
show like there's we're always 
learning more. 

888
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,720
And so to be like open minded 
and you know, also obviously to 

889
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,640
be cautious, not just like jump 
into every new like health thing

890
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,040
that comes up. 
But yeah, I think it's this 

891
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,400
whole area is so fascinating. 
Yeah, if we. 

892
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Think about how many times like 
the experts have been wrong in 

893
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,560
the past, like back when women 
were put to sleep to give birth.

894
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,280
Just, you know, as a standard 
practice. 

895
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,160
There's so many things 
throughout history that we have 

896
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,440
done wrong that we can't 
automatically just trust what 

897
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,880
we're being told without doing 
our own investigation into it. 

898
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,000
And I think what's so 
interesting is that when you 

899
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
step back and think about it, 
like what we're talking about 

900
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
and what I was just talking 
about with like this whole idea 

901
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,920
of removal, it's common sense. 
Yeah. 

902
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,200
But it seems so like 
revolutionary because we're 

903
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:15,320
we're in a world today where 
these chemicals are so 

904
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,240
commonplace. 
And so they've just been 

905
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:21,640
accepted like by everyone to be 
the nor it's in everything. 

906
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,280
They're all around us. 
And so it feels like when you 

907
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,080
say, Oh, I don't want to eat 
this chemicals that you're being

908
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:35,520
like radical, but it's actually 
just like, no, I, I just want to

909
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,800
get back to basics. 
I want to like actually have the

910
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,800
real thing. 
And so I think it's just so 

911
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,960
fascinating today that like, you
know, going back to that point 

912
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,600
of navigating when other people 
don't understand it, I like to 

913
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,000
just kind of point that out. 
I always want people to know, 

914
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,160
too, that I realized that we 
think of so many symptoms as 

915
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:01,640
normal, like painful menstrual 
cramps, but really they're just 

916
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520
common. 
And that was a huge part of my 

917
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,600
story. 
I was again like the healthy one

918
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,200
that summer at Maryly's, but all
of a sudden I had no more 

919
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,800
painful menstrual cramps, no 
more dry, itchy eyes, and I 

920
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,920
realized that these are not our 
bodies. 

921
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,240
Normal. 
They're just common. 

922
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,920
OK, last question, this is kind 
of a fun one. 

923
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:24,120
What was your most cringe worthy
habit or just something that you

924
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,040
did before you knew better that 
you look back on now and you're 

925
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,960
just like, Oh my gosh, I cannot 
believe I used to do that. 

926
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:39,680
When I think of like being in 
middle school and spending the 

927
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,680
night in my room that had been 
freshly painted with like really

928
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,320
horrible paint, like oil based, 
not non toxicating and using all

929
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,280
my I don't know, can I name 
names? 

930
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,240
I'll just say like really 
scented name body hair products 

931
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:03,280
like all the bath and body works
and the Super fragrant shampoo. 

932
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,400
What did I use? 
Like they're like great Garnier.

933
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,280
Yes, yeah, yeah, that was a big 
one. 

934
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,880
In our generation. 
And then eating, you know, my 

935
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,840
well, I was going to say like 
100 calorie packs, but that was 

936
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,120
probably not until college. 
So like in middle school it was 

937
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,880
literally just Lucky Charms 
breakfast. 

938
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,120
And it's like, I can't say one 
thing because it's like I think 

939
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,680
of my whole day. 
Yeah, it. 

940
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,960
Was still crunch. 
Really. 

941
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:30,760
Yeah. 
Same. 

942
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,600
Same. 
So I don't know I. 

943
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,960
Remember coming back from swim 
practice after school and high 

944
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,880
school and every day I would 
heat up two Eggo waffles in the 

945
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,280
in the toaster and then I get 
mint chip ice cream and eat have

946
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,760
like a Eggo waffle Ice Cream 
Sandwich that's like my after I 

947
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,000
go. 
Oh my goodness, I feel. 

948
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,760
Like we both grew up in similar 
like eating types of households 

949
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,360
maybe? 
Yeah, and thankfully we had my 

950
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,000
mom always did home cooked 
meals. 

951
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,840
And so actually I was telling 
her recently I was like, let's 

952
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,040
take some of your recipes and 
like you may, I'm going to make 

953
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,800
them with you, but I'm going to 
have all my ingredients and 

954
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
you're going to have all your 
ingredients and see if they 

955
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,520
taste pretty much the same. 
Like if you still think they 

956
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,240
taste good, that's cool, but 
with all clean ingredients 

957
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:19,160
because you can do that and. 
My mom has actually done that a 

958
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,120
lot. 
Like she's so on board now with 

959
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:21,720
everything. 
That's. 

960
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:23,200
Awesome. 
Yeah, it totally works. 

961
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,040
Like you can modify almost 
anything, yeah. 

962
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,840
But I just want to say the 
people that are eating, I go 

963
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,440
waffles and all that, like there
is no shame and no guilt in all 

964
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,720
of this. 
We all like once we know better,

965
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,800
we do better. 
And, you know, even merrily she 

966
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:46,280
was painting her son's room and 
herself as she was nine months 

967
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,520
pregnant. 
And the bug man came, you know, 

968
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,840
and sprayed that morning before 
she started painting. 

969
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,720
I mean, we just you think she 
would never do now. 

970
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,600
And she would tell all of her 
classes do not do. 

971
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,920
But as we learn more, you know, 
we can do better. 

972
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,000
And so there's never any guilt 
or shame in any of this because 

973
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,120
I think that is one thing that 
can cripple people from moving 

974
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,920
forward and making steps because
they feel like it's just more 

975
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,200
comfortable to stay and what 
they've been doing and to say 

976
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,920
like, oh, that doesn't matter. 
That doesn't matter because they

977
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,560
don't want to like, you know, 
recognize or come to terms with 

978
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,320
maybe some of the things they've
been doing haven't been the best

979
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,440
thing, you know, thing so. 
Almost all of us have been in 

980
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,320
that spot where we're making not
so great choices. 

981
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,400
And so there's only 
opportunities to do better. 

982
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,720
There's not just, you know, 
looking back and having guilt 

983
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,720
about past choices. 
There's, there's no like 

984
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:43,680
progress or improvement or just 
it's not a good place to sit in.

985
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:44,800
You don't want to like stay 
there. 

986
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,960
You just want to think about the
future and what you can change 

987
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,840
going forward. 
Yeah. 

988
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,280
And there's so much we can do, 
and there's so much hope. 

989
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,720
So much hope. 
So. 

990
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,760
Yeah, well, thank you so much 
for joining us today. 

991
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,920
Kelly and I have a flight to 
catch, but it was so good 

992
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,640
spending time when I. 
Enjoy my liver smoothie and it's

993
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,840
fresh air before I have to go 
sit on a plane. 

994
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,760
Yes. 
Enjoy it. 

995
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,440
No, thank you. 
Thank you.