1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Most of us think that fertility is something that just happens 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,440 and if we try hard enough, it'll all work out. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,800 For our guests Ronit and Vida, that belief led to heartbreak 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,440 after miscarriages just one week apart. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Both of them were told that it was just bad luck. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,960 Two best friends, 2 losses, the perfect prenatal routine, and 0 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,960 satisfying answers. They didn't accept that, and 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,400 what they uncovered challenged everything they had been taught 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 about conception. There's a mismatch between our 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,080 environment and our bodies. There's so much that you could 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,920 do to support your environment and enhance fertility. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,480 Now, as the founders of Weenatal, they're revealing how 13 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:44,080 modern lifestyles, stress and overlooked factors are quietly 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,680 shaping fertility. When it comes to fertility, 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,120 we've been getting it wrong. In this episode, we are finding 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,480 out how to get it right. Let's dig in. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Ronit and Vida, welcome to the farm. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,040 I'm so excited that you guys are here. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,800 You have so much knowledge on all things fertility, and I 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,200 think our audience is going to walk away with really practical 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,800 action items on how to improve their fertility and health 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,360 overall. So thanks so much for being 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,720 here. Thanks for having us. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Such an honor to be here. I want to talk about the global 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,080 fertility crisis. How bad is it really and what's 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,320 driving it? Yeah, it's definitely a global 27 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,920 problem. It doesn't discriminate. 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,080 First, any socioeconomic status or any country. 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,400 We see it across the globe and the real reality is it is a 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,040 problem. Most countries nowadays are not 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,080 even having enough kids for the replacement rate, which is 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,880 considered 2.1. So basically two kids to replace 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,640 you and your partner. We look at the US, we're around 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,600 1.7. We look at alarming countries 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,960 like South Korea .8 so we realize that like for the future 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 of our mankind and the future of humanity, it is a global issue 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,120 we should all care about no matter what stage of life. 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,800 If you care about us flourishing, we also need to 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,240 care about fertility. And what are the main factors 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,520 that are driving this? So when we look at fertility, 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,600 we're really and the decline in fertility, we're really looking 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,640 at the last 50 years of or so where we see sperm counts 43 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:18,920 declining, increase in miscarriage rate, increase in 44 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,640 issues like erectile dysfunction, decrease in 45 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:25,520 testosterone and all of this has been happening in the last 50 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,160 years. So when we think about what is 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:35,160 the reason and what is going on, we really think about so much 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,560 has changed in the last 50 years. 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,600 We're not living like our ancestors. 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,200 We're spending 92% of our time indoors. 51 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,480 We're eating ultra processed foods that that is made in a 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,800 factory. There is plastic everywhere, 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,720 toxins in our environment, toxins in our skin care products 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,160 as you know. And so there's basically a 55 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,720 mismatch between how our bodies were made to. 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,360 There's a mismatch between our environment and our bodies 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,520 essentially, totally. But with that, there's so much 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,400 optimism that comes with that because there's so much that you 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,800 could do to support your environment and enhance 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,640 fertility. And that's really one of our 61 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:25,880 biggest messages is, yes, the fertility crisis seems like it's 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,040 doom and gloom, but there's so much hope because there's so 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,200 much that you could do to support your fertility. 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,160 I fully agree. And when people blame genetics 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,120 for fertility issues or other diseases, I'm not saying 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,240 genetics are completely irrelevant, but we have to like 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,400 understand that our genetics have not changed this much in 68 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,680 the last 50 years. But everything about our 69 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,840 environment that you just mentioned has changed and some 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,600 of it we can't control and some of it we can. 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,800 So I agree, I think there's a lot of hope and optimism there 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,720 even in the midst of these like staggeringly sad statistics. 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,040 Like I've heard you guys say that one in four pregnancies are 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,520 ending with miscarriage. Right now, 20% of couples are 75 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,920 not able to to conceive within the first year of trying and 76 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,040 then sperm, right? Like what is going on with men's 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,640 sperm right now? So this the stats are staggering 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,120 around the fertility crisis and it truly is a crisis. 79 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,360 In the last 50 years, sperm counts have declined by 50%. 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,200 So what that means is that men today have 50% less sperm 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,280 compared to their grandfathers. And when we look at the 82 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:41,400 trajectory up until the year 2000, sperm counts has declined 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:47,440 by 1% per year, but since the 2000s is declined by 2.6% per 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,640 year. And some researchers are looking 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,800 at that data and saying by 2045 sperm counts could be 0 if we 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,880 don't do anything about it. Wow. 87 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:03,080 So what's happening with sperm? I think it's, you know, you'll 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,240 have some researchers that like Doctor Shana Swan who talk about 89 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,880 the plastics in our environment and the impact it's making on 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,640 sperm. But really, sperm is a barometer 91 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,800 of health. And so when we look at 92 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,600 fertility, we have to look at the big picture of what's 93 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,480 happening with health overall. And we're seeing an increase of 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,600 autoimmune disease, we're seeing an increase in mental health 95 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:34,000 issues and and chronic disease. And so fertility and and health 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,400 go hand in hand, but also sperm are very sensitive to our 97 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,480 environment. Sperm essentially is a cell that 98 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 is being generated outside of the body. 99 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,720 And when we look at sperm counts and sperm counts decline, we can 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,120 see that what's happening in human beings are also happening 101 00:05:54,120 --> 00:06:00,120 in our home pets. And so all of that to say is if 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,480 it's happening to your pet and it's happening to you, it has to 103 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 be something that's going on inside your household. 104 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Yeah, yeah. And, and I'm sure, I mean, 105 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:13,960 there's, there's so many factors that can contribute to lowering 106 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,880 men's sperm count, but what are some things that men might be 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,360 unknowingly doing that are negatively impacting their sperm 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,560 that they might think is like good for them or healthy, but 109 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,960 actually is really bad for their sperm count and quality? 110 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,520 The most obvious sometimes things that are good for us but 111 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,320 during that trying to conceive stage that might not be is heat. 112 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,560 So the testicles live outside of the body because it doesn't like 113 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,360 heat. And so if you're a regular sauna 114 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,480 user or heat anything in the heat and I jacuzzi, you name it. 115 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Oh my. Gosh, do you have this memory of 116 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,400 my Nana when when I was a kid and I was in the hot tub with my 117 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,200 cousins and siblings. And she goes up to my cousin, 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,720 who I think was a teenager at the time. 119 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,160 And she was like, you need to get out of the hot tub. 120 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,800 I want, I want great grandchildren someday. 121 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Like, you can't stay in here for too long. 122 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,040 And I was like, whoa, that seems kind of crazy. 123 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,280 But it turns out she wasn't wrong. 124 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,520 She wasn't wrong, the sperm doesn't like the heat and if you 125 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 are obsessed with this honor either you could avoid it for 126 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,480 the few months up to conception or they nowadays have ice packs 127 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,880 and certain things you could do to keep it cool down there. 128 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,080 It's OK for women. It is OK for women, it's very 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,880 good for us in general, detoxifying, it's so great. 130 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,320 But during that time for men, we recommend maybe avoiding it or 131 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,960 if you have to using the ice pack. 132 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,080 And so that's just interesting, easy one that most people don't 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,640 know, and it could be a simple trick outside of that, I think 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 it's so similar, men and women, there's so many, we like to kind 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 of bucket them into fertility blockers and fertility boosters. 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,120 And to Roni's point about our environment has changed so much, 137 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,320 So what are the easy things within our control that we can 138 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,520 block, like toxins? That's why we only use primarily 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,000 pure in skin care that's clean because your organ is your big, 140 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,160 your skin is your biggest organ that's absorbing everything. 141 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,400 But it's the same with the everyday items in your house 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 mainly, and now you know this, but the kitchen and bathroom 143 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,040 probably being the culprits of the most toxins in your home. 144 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,640 And so clean cleaning products, clean, you know, glass 145 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,840 containers, clean pans that are stainless steel in the bathroom, 146 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,120 better deodorants, better beauty products, anything that you 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,560 might be using. When you run out of one thing, 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,360 try to search for cleaner option. 149 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 There's so many options these days. 150 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,560 And so it could feel overwhelming if we're saying 151 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,880 like ditch your whole lifestyle and start over. 152 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,960 But if you start slowly, it's about always doing a little 153 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,360 better. And it's the world you want to 154 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,360 live in anyway. For your health, for longevity, 155 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,919 absolutely. It's a worthwhile thing to 156 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:44,600 pursue. And these toxins, they are 157 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,640 impacting our cells, our mitochondria. 158 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Talk a little bit about that and why are mitochondria are so 159 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,000 important for reproductive health? 160 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Oh my gosh, we talked about mitochondria all the time and 161 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Women's Health and women's fertility. 162 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,680 A lot of people think that as you age, your eggs age with you. 163 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,240 And so as a result, there's this myth out there that if you're 164 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,680 older, your eggs are old, or if you're over 35, you're 165 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,480 geriatric. But I want to talk about that. 166 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,200 Later we could get into that all, all day long, but really 167 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:28,120 your mitochondria ages with you. And so as a result, if you want 168 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,440 to improve your egg quality or your sperm quality, you can 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,080 focus on enhancing your mitochondria. 170 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,880 And then as a result, you will improve your egg quality because 171 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,320 the mitochondria are essentially the battery of the cells. 172 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:45,000 Your eggs have the most amount of mitochondria compared to any 173 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,160 other cell in the body. So it's really important to 174 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,240 focus on mitochondrial health and that will in turn improve 175 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,680 your fertility. But real quick, circling back to 176 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:59,840 sperm, the reason why we like talking about sperm so much is 177 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,600 because sperm are dynamic. Men are making 1500 sperm every 178 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,880 second of the day. That is wild. 179 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,840 It's wild. It's a superpower, really. 180 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,400 We really feel like they are the superheroes of the fertility 181 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,200 equation because they're constantly regenerating. 182 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Sperm, And that's a pretty new idea. 183 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Like traditionally it's always been very focused on the women, 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,680 the fertility conversation. But you guys are bringing the 185 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:28,920 guy into the conversation, which is, you know, it just makes 186 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,040 sense when you think about it. But for so long, I feel like 187 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,280 that's kind of just been forgotten and left out. 188 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,600 It's been forgotten and even in our journeys which we can get 189 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,280 into, we completely took the burden of of fertility on our 190 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,040 shoulders. But once we started to think 191 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,760 about the other half, we started to bring in our partner into the 192 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,560 mix. Really miracles happened in our 193 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,840 lives and so many miracles have happened in our communities 194 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,040 lives. We've helped over 30,000 195 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,880 families have healthy babies and it's really incredible and, and 196 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,240 it makes sense, right? It takes 2 to tango. 197 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,280 It takes 2 to make a baby. But up until now, we've been so 198 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,960 focused on our self. Society has put it on us and so 199 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,280 we talk about sperm a lot. But real quick, so men have this 200 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,280 ability to regenerate sperm called sperm metagenesis and 201 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,720 they can really transform their sperm quality in three months 202 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,040 because a complete cycle of sperm is essentially 3 months. 203 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,720 And so when we started weenatal, we put we did a beta with a few 204 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:38,520 men and we put them on weenatal and did a sperm test before and 205 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,480 after three months of weenatal. And we have one of our beta 206 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,760 testers, his name is John. He didn't change anything except 207 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,600 for taking in these high dose antioxidants and his sperm 208 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,920 parameters, all of them morphology, motility count have 209 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,480 all doubled to quadrupled. And now he has two very young 210 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,840 kids that have only one year difference between them. 211 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,760 And he says we need to put a warning label on the naval for 212 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,720 him. So that's how well it works. 213 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,720 And that is why we're so passionate about kind of like 214 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,320 the power that you have over your own fertility and over this 215 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,520 incredible journey of growing your family. 216 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,080 That is wild. OK, I didn't realize that men 217 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,480 completely regenerate their sperm in a three month span. 218 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,760 Yes. So yeah, what you do in those 219 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,240 three months before conception is so important for men. 220 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Is it true that men don't have a fertility clock? 221 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:42,840 And that it's easy for them to impregnate a woman at any age. 222 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,880 I know it appears like that. So I'm going to say no, it's not 223 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,720 true. Yes, they probably could 224 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,120 impregnate because at any age because they are making sperm 225 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,000 every second well into their, you know, later in life. 226 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,640 And we see celebrities like Mick Jagger and Robert De Niro having 227 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,240 kids such later in life. So I think media sensationalizes 228 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,800 that men don't, but the reality is they do. 229 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,760 And men having kids later in life have a higher chance of 230 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,440 passing off, you know, genetics to their offspring. 231 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,240 That could be not good and not optimal. 232 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,040 And so while they could probably produce a child, they have to 233 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,680 still make sure to be taking care of themselves and the 234 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:24,400 antioxidants to make sure that the DNA damage their sperm isn't 235 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,520 passed along to their child, which could happen at a higher 236 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,320 rate later in life. I just love that you guys are 237 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,280 bringing men into the fertility conversation and taking it from 238 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,720 me to we, as you guys say. How did you even come to make 239 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,320 that realization in the first place? 240 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,040 I think the biggest AHA we had in our own personal journey is 241 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,200 was that we thought we were doing everything right and yet 242 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,120 completely ignoring the other half of the equation. 243 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,360 And once Roni uncovered the research around men's health 244 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,400 being 50% of pregnancy health and men being such a huge 245 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,520 contributor to not only a healthy pregnancy but a healthy 246 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,760 child, it was the moment that stopped everything for us. 247 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,560 I remember where I was when she called me with that research. 248 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,600 It was chilled. And it was mind blowing to me 249 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,640 that we're so advanced in so many ways, but yet society has 250 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,360 still placed the burden of fertility as a woman's health 251 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,000 issue. And if you think about it in the 252 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,720 most common way, fertility is a team sport. 253 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,200 It's intuitive that it takes 2 to tango in this situation. 254 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,360 If you My favorite analogy is like, we all love football. 255 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,080 It's the American pastime. And if you literally have the 256 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,760 best quarterback in the world, but the rest of your team is 257 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,040 untrained and not guarding your quarterback, you're not making 258 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,720 it to the end zone. And how is it that we were 259 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,320 literally just scrutinizing everything about women their 260 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,000 age, what they ate, their work? I remember after my miscarriage 261 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,080 so going down such a deep rabbit hole of everything I did, trying 262 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,720 to trace back what I did wrong. Meanwhile, my husband was living 263 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,160 his best life doing things he shouldn't have been, and I 264 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,560 didn't even dawn on me that he could even be part of the 265 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,720 conversation. And so we're here to change the 266 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,040 narrative for me to we because in society we say we're trying, 267 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,880 we're having a baby and I'm like, where, where's the we? 268 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,960 Where is it? So let's put that back into the 269 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,160 conversation and and we can get into like our story and how we 270 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,120 started, but. We had a Google doc when we 271 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,360 first came up with the idea of weenatal and we called the IT 272 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,320 was like best deco that Google doc. 273 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,760 We didn't know what the company was going to be, but we 274 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,880 literally wrote that on the top of the Google doc. 275 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,920 We are trying. We are having a baby, but 276 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,920 where's the we from me to we And that was the concept. 277 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,880 But really like what kind of gave us the biggest AHA to start 278 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,160 weenatal is when we learned that men who take high dose 279 00:15:54,160 --> 00:16:01,200 antioxidants like Coq 10 and AC vitamin C have a 4X chances of 280 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,120 getting their partner pregnant and having a live birth. 281 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,280 And we thought we don't know any men who are taking prenatals, 282 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,600 any men who are going into this fertility journey in a conscious 283 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,520 way together with their partner. And we wanted to change that. 284 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Let's talk a little bit about your stories. 285 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,960 So take us back to 2020. Both of you experienced 286 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,600 miscarriages a week apart, correct? 287 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,160 What was that period like for you guys? 288 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 It was worth shattering to if we're honest. 289 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,800 So I we met in our Nike corporate career and we became 290 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,520 best friends. And when I actually before that 291 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,480 had my first miscarriage, I was told all the things that most of 292 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,000 us are told. It just happens. 293 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,040 Keep trying. I was given 0 satisfying 294 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,680 answers. I took it as a truth, but thank 295 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,960 God Roni was working with Doctor Mark Hyman and in the functional 296 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,920 medicine space and she pushed me to look beyond the normal labs, 297 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,400 right? They're normal, but they're not 298 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,079 optimal. Found out I have Hashimoto's. 299 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,599 I changed my diet, my lifestyle, I took supplementation, and I 300 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,359 went on to have my healthy baby girl. 301 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,599 Ironically, I was also leading Nike Global events for some of 302 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,560 the best athletes in the world with impeccable precision, 303 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,760 literally scrutinizing every detail of the events, what 304 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,960 they're putting in their body, every inch of like, you know, 305 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,000 weights on their clothes to make them the best at their sport. 306 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 And when it came to my own pregnancy journey, I just 307 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,920 thought I'm young, I'm healthy, I should just go for it. 308 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,080 So Fast forward to early 2020, I thought the nightmare was over. 309 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,360 I go to try for my second kid. I go in for a routine 310 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:44,160 ultrasound. The room drops again. 311 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,480 It was my second time of seeing my OBGYN's face drop, saying the 312 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,600 words that no parent to be ever wants to hear, which there's no 313 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,840 heartbeat. And it was. 314 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,680 There's no words in that moment except the pain you feel from 315 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,800 crying, your jaw ache, and really just being told try again 316 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,160 when you're ready and being sent through a waiting room of 317 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,520 glowing bellies with no advice, no guidance, no answers, 318 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,800 nothing. The only difference this time is 319 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,400 a week later, Roni called me with the same devastating loss. 320 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,440 And so there we were, two best friends, two losses, the perfect 321 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,240 prenatal routine, and 0 satisfying answers. 322 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,360 And we realize something's up and. 323 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:34,120 So when I asked my doctor what can I do to optimize for a 324 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:38,760 healthy pregnancy next time around, she said there's nothing 325 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,120 you could do, it's your age, just keep trying. 326 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,920 And how old were you at the time? 327 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:49,760 I was 41, so I guess I was old, but I I didn't feel old. 328 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,480 And honestly, I was working in functional medicine alongside 329 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,640 the best doctors. I had access to the best 330 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,600 nutritionist, naturopathic doctors, fertility doctors. 331 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,960 And I decided not to listen to my OB and actually started to 332 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,880 research and and talk to all of the incredible practitioners in 333 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,000 my network. And that's where I learned that 334 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:18,440 men are 50% of the equation. But nobody is talking about 335 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,840 that. And So what we decided to do is 336 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:28,920 myself, my husband Vita and her husband is take three months to 337 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:35,400 focus on trimester 0. And we put together ADIY stack 338 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,600 of nutrients for our husbands, which we put together from 339 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,800 different multivitamins. And we committed to three months 340 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:48,200 of really leveling up our eating, our movement. 341 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,040 I took on acupuncture 3 * a week. 342 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Our husbands kind of committed to three months of no bad 343 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,680 behavior, which for them is like no smoking, no drinking. 344 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,720 A lot of things that are so common and even legal are just 345 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,840 horrible for fertility. Was it hard to get them on board 346 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,280 or were they like all in? You know, I think after loss, 347 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,440 men are committed to doing, committed to doing anything they 348 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,760 can. It's so painful for a couple to 349 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,280 experience that and they're part of the pain. 350 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,720 You know, it's, it's hard for them and it's hard for us. 351 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:31,560 And three months later, after committing to going into this 352 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,240 consciously and doing all the right things, I got pregnant 353 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,520 with Emma, who was born four days after my 42nd birthday, my 354 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,360 first try. And Vita, three months 355 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,960 afterwards, gave birth to her daughter Davina. 356 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:54,040 So our experiment worked and that experiment really propelled 357 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,440 us to launch the brand because we wanted everybody who was 358 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,920 going through such painful times to have the blessings that we 359 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:10,560 had and have access to the information and access to just 360 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,800 like the education and all of the people that we had in our 361 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,440 network, we wanted everybody else to have. 362 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,120 That's so incredible. And I think so when we do think 363 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:24,480 about how men factor into the equation, it's often thought of 364 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,400 in terms of just like getting pregnant, you know, and, and I 365 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,840 think like sperm count maybe is talked about. 366 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,880 But but I know that you guys have said that the quality of 367 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,160 the sperm matters. And that's why even if a woman 368 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,000 does get pregnant, sperm can factor into the miscarriage as 369 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,800 well and can even be responsible for 50% of miscarriages. 370 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,160 It's incredible. Like it's such a small thing 371 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,000 that men can do to just like radically transform the health 372 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,320 of their sperm. There's and you guys are living 373 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,600 proof. There's also so much data, not 374 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,680 just unlike the miscarriage itself, but the lifelong health 375 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,520 of the child. There's some research that shows 376 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:07,000 that men who have like kind of binge eating episodes will have 377 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,560 children that have blood sugar dysregulation. 378 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,760 There is so much more research being done on sperm, sperm. 379 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Now sperm can impact the health of the pregnancy and like 380 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,960 placenta and can even cause things like preeclampsia. 381 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,000 And so we want to know that we're passing along. 382 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,640 You know, when you think about your children, a lot of times 383 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,000 you're like, oh, does your son have like blonde hair like you? 384 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,160 You know, you're, you think about the traits that you're 385 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,800 passing along that are like, you know, the physical traits, but 386 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:43,000 you don't realize you're also passing along your, you know, 387 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,120 the epigenetics, you're turning on and off genes that can, you 388 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,480 know, be passed on to your child. 389 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,640 And so it's not just about having that baby and the 2 pink 390 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,760 lines that you see on your pregnancy test. 391 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,680 It's really about investing in the future of your child for 392 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280 their entire life. And so to us, it's a no brainer 393 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,120 when you ask about men and were they able like, you know, if if 394 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,880 men understand this, of course they're going to commit to no 395 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,560 drinking, of course they're going to commit to no smoking 396 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,840 and at the very least commit to taking a prenatal for three 397 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,520 months before trying to conceive. 398 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,320 The fertility industry has become a multi billion dollar 399 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000 industry. Do you feel like they are 400 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,880 praying on women's fears? Because as you're saying all 401 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,120 this I'm thinking why is this not a part of the conversation 402 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,040 immediately? Why? 403 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:37,440 Why do IVF clinics not factor this in and not try this as the 404 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,880 first option? That is a great question. 405 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,560 The fertility industry is a $20 billion industry, 20 billion. 406 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,840 That is a huge industry. And I think part of it is that 407 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,520 these are businesses with quotas. 408 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,400 But, but a big part of it is really the lack of education 409 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,080 that doctors don't have. They don't have exposed exposure 410 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240 to nutrition classes. They actually don't know a lot 411 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,000 of this information. And so I think it's the system 412 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,760 as a whole, like the medical system. 413 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040 And a lot of times people go straight from trying to 414 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,440 conceive, working with their OBGYN for six months to a year, 415 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,240 straight to IVF. And there's just so much that 416 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,800 you could do before you get into that, get to that step. 417 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:37,280 And even if you go go to that step, your outcomes will be so 418 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,600 much better if you are focusing on the basics. 419 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,160 And I think, you know, when it comes to IVF, it's this 420 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,280 technology is incredible and it helps so many people and so many 421 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520 couples. And ultimately there will be 422 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760 some people that need to resort to that. 423 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,560 You have to be smart about how you're going into things. 424 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,720 And that shouldn't be the first approach. 425 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about 426 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,600 nutrients and how certain nutrients can impact fertility 427 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,400 and a growing baby in the womb as well. 428 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,960 Can you give us a breakdown on that? 429 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:15,240 Definitely so nutrients are a big deal when it comes to 430 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,360 fertility. Health of mom, health of baby, 431 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,080 your outcomes in postpartum nutrient depletion can cause 432 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800 postpartum depression and anxiety. 433 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,640 So it's actually a big deal. And that's why even though our 434 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,440 big AHA to create weenatal came from the men's aspect and the 435 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,760 men's prenatal, why we even got into women's prenatal was 436 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,360 because a product like weenatal didn't exist. 437 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,600 We were taking a prenatal that was, I would say, like solid, a 438 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,880 solid brand, but we had to add vitamin D, we had to add 439 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,080 choline, we had to add iron, we had to add folate. 440 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,800 So we were basically taking, I don't know, like 13 pills a day 441 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,640 because we had to add so many things. 442 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,240 And by the way, we were also paying about $150.00 a month 443 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,480 because we had to piece together all of these nutrients to make 444 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,640 our prenatal a good prenatal. So choline is a critical 445 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,360 nutrient for baby brain development. 446 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,080 And even some research shows that choline can impact your 447 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,440 child's IQ. And so when Vita and I were 448 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,520 taking our prenatal, our prenatal didn't have choline. 449 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,120 So we had to add that. And so many prenatals on the 450 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,440 market either don't contain choline or have very minimal 451 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,680 dosages. But we know that the dose makes 452 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,120 a difference, especially with prenatals. 453 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:50,320 And so choline is a big one. And so if anybody's looking at 454 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,920 their nutrition label, the first thing they should look at is 455 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,320 choline. Make sure it has at least 400 456 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920 milligrams. And if not, that prenatal is not 457 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,960 for you. The next one is folate and not 458 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,480 folic acid. So that's a big kind of debate 459 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,120 out there, folic acid versus folate and we needle has 460 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:14,640 methylfolate, which is a bioavailable form of folic acid, 461 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,880 which is critical for neural tube development, which is 462 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,680 essentially what ends up becoming your spinal cord and 463 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,920 your brain and kind of a big deal, kind of a big deal. 464 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:32,880 And the reason why we use methylfolate is because 40% of 465 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,280 the population have a genetic mutation called MTHFR and they 466 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,440 cannot convert the synthetic form of folic acid, folic acid 467 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,360 to the bioavailable form methylfolate. 468 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 And so it's very important to make sure that your prenatal has 469 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,720 the bioavailable form. And I think other than that, 470 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,360 from a high level, our our prenatal includes 24 key 471 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,800 ingredients and every single one of them, there is a reason why 472 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,840 they're in there and there's a reason why they're in there in 473 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,360 that specific dose. And we share all of the research 474 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,400 on our website. But from a high level, it's 475 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,920 important to know that your prenatal should be comprehensive 476 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,680 and should have at least those 24 key ingredients. 477 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Like a lot of prenatals on the market, like the ones that you 478 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,440 would find that like a Target or Acvs only have 12 ingredients. 479 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,240 And for us, we wouldn't leave 1 nutrient out of the prenatal. 480 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,680 So that's one big thing that people should look at. 481 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,440 You know, labels are very confusing, but at the very least 482 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,280 count and make sure that it has 24 key ingredients and then make 483 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,880 sure it has methylfolate. Make sure it has choline at the 484 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680 right dose. Another big one is vitamin D. 485 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,480 We know that vitamin D is responsible for your hormones 486 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,720 and low vitamin D can actually impact things like preeclampsia, 487 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,520 gestational diabetes, or low, low birth weight. 488 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,200 It makes a big difference on pregnancy outcomes. 489 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,160 And so we Natal has 4000 I us of vitamin D and it's really 490 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,840 important to, you know, check your vitamin D levels and make 491 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,440 sure that they're optimal. And then last one, because I 492 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760 can, I can we could talk about. The. 493 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,480 And the dosages and get really get in the weeds is iron. 494 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Iron is critical for pregnancy because your iron needs double 495 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,840 when you're pregnant. And so that was one in our 496 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,280 formula, we have 18 milligrams of iron. 497 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,000 And when we were formulating we Natal, we were going back and 498 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,240 forth with our formulation team for about 3 months on should we 499 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,160 put iron in it or should we put calcium because both of those 500 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,680 things cannot exist in one capsule because they compete for 501 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,560 absorption. And we really went back and 502 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,880 forth for a long time. But ultimately we realized that 503 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,720 it's harder to get iron from diet when and especially when 504 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,680 you're pregnant. When you're nauseous, it's a. 505 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Lot and have meat aversion. Yeah, exactly. 506 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,760 It's a lot easier to get calcium from diet. 507 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,320 And so we went with iron and we hear from so many of our we 508 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,720 Natal customers that were on a different prenatal and then they 509 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,520 took we Natal for their second or third pregnancy and all of a 510 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,960 sudden for postpartum, they felt better, they had more energy. 511 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,240 Kelly Levesque, our mutual friend, talks a lot about how 512 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,280 the iron and renatal really helped her with her third 513 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,160 pregnancy. And so that's a, that's a big 514 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,440 one too, just making sure that you're getting the iron. 515 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Yeah. And I think what we learned when 516 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,720 we were incepting this brand is that first of all, very similar 517 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,880 to primarily pure, it was our own deed. 518 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,480 We knew we needed it. We knew women and men deserved 519 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,560 better and better options and optimism in this ever 520 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,320 increasingly stressful and slightly negative world of 521 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,640 fertility. And so similarly, when we saw 522 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000 all these store brands, we thought, of course, they must be 523 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,280 regulated. Of course there must be 524 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,000 integrity in this world, and there's not. 525 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,400 There's no FDA regulation. Anyone who thinks up a vitamin 526 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720 could put it on the shelf. And if you're not versed to look 527 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,800 for those nutrients and also what's equally important is 528 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,120 what's not in it. So we were finding prenatals 529 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,200 with a whole paragraph of other additives, fillers, colors, 530 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,720 binders, you name it, Things you never want to ingest, much less 531 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,200 when you're trying to conceive a baby. 532 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,240 And so once you learn all this stuff, you can not, you can't 533 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,040 look back. It's like, have you ever seen 534 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,600 the movie The 6th Sense? Once you find out Bruce Willis 535 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,000 was that, I remember like that moment, you will go back on 536 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,800 every scene and like replay. And so once we found out about 537 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,000 men's health, about the lack of integrity in the supplement 538 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,280 world, the rock of regulation, we literally wanted to make 539 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,760 something so much better for us and everyone who came behind us. 540 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,520 OK. That's wild that the prenatals 541 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,760 are not FDA regulated because we launched A sunscreen last year 542 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,520 and it was the longest, most tedious process because even 543 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,320 that is regulated by the FDA, but a prenatal isn't. 544 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,440 That's wild. Can you guys just go off on one 545 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,800 a days? I would love to hear your 546 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,400 breakdown of the popular prenatal 1A day. 547 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Yeah. Well, it's funny, I once send 548 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,680 our nutrition director the label and I didn't tell her what it 549 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,960 was. She's like, what is that? 550 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,960 I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. 551 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,800 And I think 1A day is in theory a good idea, like one per day. 552 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,560 But like, can you get all of your nutrients for the day and 553 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,160 just one meal? No, you can't. 554 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,640 So like at the end of the day, they're selling you on the 555 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,760 market of like on the idea of convenience. 556 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,760 But ultimately, if you look at their label, it's not 557 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,400 comprehensive. It has low dosages, horrible 558 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,120 forms and also the paragraph of what they have in there is just 559 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,400 like you would never ingest like what Vita said and so. 560 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,560 The. Junk. 561 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,240 Yeah, the junk. It shouldn't be there. 562 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Why did they use it? Maybe companies put that stuff 563 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,240 in there. I mean, it's like, why does 564 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480 Wonder Bread use what they use in it? 565 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,720 Because they have a shelf life that's essentially forever and 566 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,720 so. Our to produce. 567 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,880 Our shelf life is 2 years and you know, from an operational 568 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,760 perspective and I'm sure you, you see the same thing with your 569 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,800 products. You have to manufacture things 570 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,280 more often and in smaller batches and it's harder to 571 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120 manufacture. But that's our commitment to the 572 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,200 consumer. We want to make sure that 573 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,360 whatever they take in is, you know what we wish on us. 574 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,040 And it's just like it's so important. 575 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,160 And the the other thing just to add on it is third party testing 576 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,320 and regulating because prenatals are not regulated by the FDA. 577 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,360 We actually use a third party to make sure that the potency, what 578 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,840 we say is on our label is actually in our product. 579 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800 They look at heavy metals to make sure that our product 580 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760 doesn't contain heavy metals that are harmful when you're 581 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,880 pregnant. And they look at third party 582 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,000 testing ensures purity and potency. 583 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,960 And so that's also very important. 584 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,239 And a lot of products will say that they're third party tested 585 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,360 tested, but when you ask them for the documentation, they 586 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,120 don't send it to you. So we share our third party 587 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,400 testing documents for every single batch on our website as 588 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,560 APDF, so anybody can look and see it the results. 589 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,159 So that's very important. And I love that it's just three 590 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,080 capsules because it is so pure, it is so concentrated and 591 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,920 bioavailable. And Grace don't use all of the 592 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,199 synthetic fillers that other companies do. 593 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,360 So probably helps a lot with buy in from from men and also from 594 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,440 women that are having trouble, you know, taking pills while 595 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,239 they're pregnant. Having it as just those 3 is 596 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,400 like huge. Yeah. 597 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,719 And science is also ever changing and so I can't speak to 598 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,160 one a day, but I'm pretty sure it's been on the shelf forever 599 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,560 without it evolving. And the science and our 600 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120 ingredients have based on the latest clinical research to 601 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,040 support fertility and so much so that it was already the best 602 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,960 prenatal on the market. And then six months into 603 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880 launching, new research came out and our whole medical board got 604 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,800 together and made it even better. 605 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,920 And we completely changed our formula and made small tweaks to 606 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,680 go to the latest science. And that's our also commitment 607 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,440 and why other brands don't do it. 608 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,600 It's costly, it takes time, even finding a manufacturer that will 609 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,640 work in small dosage and clean. And also it's not easy because 610 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,400 they're so pure. If water touches it, if heat 611 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,920 like it's not shelf stable, it's very sensitive to the elements. 612 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,440 And so, but we would not do it any differently. 613 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,120 And we want to give the best for ourselves and for our community. 614 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,960 In the summer we have to pack and ship with an ice pack. 615 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,040 You know, if it's logistical things that just make it harder 616 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,160 on like the company and the business, but to the consumer, 617 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120 they deserve the best. I love that and I feel like your 618 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,720 heart comes across so much and and everything that you guys do, 619 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,840 it's very evident how much you care. 620 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,720 I've also heard that some of the worst prenatals are the ones 621 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,560 prescribed by the doctors in fertility clinics. 622 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,440 Is that true? It's true from what we've seen. 623 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,280 And I will say though that in the last three years we have 624 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,480 seen a shift in how fertility doctors talk about nutrients. 625 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,800 And there are some fertility doctors back in the day when we 626 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,320 first started that would literally just say your age is 627 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,120 the number one factor when it comes to your fertility. 628 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,160 And now fertility doctors are talking about inflammation, 629 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,800 they're talking about Coq 10, they're talking about 630 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,880 acupuncture. So slowly this message is 631 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,680 getting out there. But yes, I've seen some of the 632 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,600 prescribed prenatals out there and they're scary. 633 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,720 For women who are eating a really nutrient dense diet 634 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:49,200 already, maybe they're having a lot of red meat for iron and 635 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,560 eggs for choline, sunshine for vitamin D. 636 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:59,080 Is a prenatal still necessary? Yes, I'd say, I mean, even if it 637 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,840 was our full time job to eat for fertility and I look at someone 638 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,120 who I look up to, like Kelly Levesque, who's one of our 639 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,320 medical advisors and on our board, she probably eats like 640 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,800 the rainbow. She's home cooking every day 641 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,680 with the best oils and the best meat. 642 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,120 And she still found the need to take our prenatal for her 643 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,360 pregnancies. And so you realize that no 644 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,640 matter how good you can eat, it's always a good idea to build 645 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040 those nutrient reserves. And like, it's a small insurance 646 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,400 policy to me to make sure whatever our food sources, even 647 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,920 the best quality could be lacking because of the depletion 648 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,400 in our soils and all the things which you know. 649 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,600 And so I'd say absolutely, and it's like the lowest hanging 650 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,760 fruit to make sure you're doing everything you can. 651 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,280 Aside from getting the right nutrients, what else can women 652 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,440 and men be doing? Lifestyle stuff, you know, 653 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,280 sleep, all of that to optimize their fertility. 654 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,000 Yeah, there. There's so much that couples 655 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,840 could do together and anything that we talked about in regards 656 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,440 to like women apply to men as well. 657 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,680 But I would say the first thing is your diet, essentially, you 658 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,120 know, you can't really supplement yourself out of a bad 659 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,280 diet. So the diet, what you put into 660 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,080 your body every single day makes a big difference. 661 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,880 And there's a ton of data showing that the Mediterranean 662 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,560 diet, a high protein diet with colorful vegetables and fruits, 663 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,040 which provide you with the antioxidants, the high protein 664 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,840 diets that balance your blood sugar make a big difference on 665 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520 male and female fertility. So starting with diet. 666 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120 Is that kind of how you 2 eat? Yes. 667 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,920 So getting in your protein is obviously critical and just 668 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480 making sure to eat the rainbow. The next one is kind of the 669 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,320 toxins in your environment. Let's put that into like one big 670 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,560 bucket. It's what you're putting on your 671 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,680 body, around your body. And we talk a lot about how the 672 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,960 two most toxic places in your house is essentially your 673 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,520 kitchen and your bathroom. I'm sure you talk about this all 674 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,560 day long. And so your listeners know that 675 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,640 what you put on your body is critical. 676 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,160 And nowadays it's so easy to get clean products. 677 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,200 I think when you started primarily pure, you were 678 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,720 probably like the first one. It wasn't the case that people 679 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,720 would have to make their own products, but it's not the case 680 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,720 anymore. And so just making sure to look 681 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,840 at your labels and in the kitchen kind of ditching the 682 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,200 plastics, ditching the Teflon to being more mindful about the 683 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,200 products, your cleaning supplies. 684 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,880 I think anything with fragrance people need to avoid like the 685 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,400 plague. I mean, fragrance is full of 686 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,840 phthalates that are endocrine disrupting chemicals that can 687 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,240 lead to estrogen dominance in the body and then that has a 688 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,440 negative impact on fertility. That's just an easy one that if 689 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640 something that you're using, whether it's a cleaning product 690 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,840 or a skin care product to beauty product, if it says fragrance on 691 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,040 the label, just avoid it completely. 692 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,560 Yeah. And it's so funny. 693 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,200 Yesterday on our way to school, my daughter was asking me, why 694 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,320 do people have that, like that tree hanging on their car? 695 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,560 And she was like, and I said, you know, they just don't know 696 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,440 that fragrance is bad for you. And she's like, she goes, oh, is 697 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,000 that why when we were at Target, you told me not like, that you 698 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,040 couldn't get me that candle. And I said yeah, you can only 699 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,600 get candles from specific. Places, but the ones at Target, 700 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,120 they're definitely not good for you because they have these 701 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,480 fragrances and. Walk down that aisle and you 702 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,240 just get away. All of it, right? 703 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,480 Away and a migraine, Yeah. To go with it. 704 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,760 And and then I would say like the last one, like the last big 705 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,600 bucket is really stress and sleep and they go hand in hand. 706 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,960 And so our bodies were just not made to reproduce in these like 707 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,080 stressful days. So finding ways that ground you 708 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,280 and finding ways to navigate that stress and then really like 709 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,320 investing in good quality sleep. I think sleep is so underrated 710 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,320 and it's something that can really help kind of like reset 711 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,640 your nervous system and help with detox. 712 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,680 And so focusing on good quality sleep, sleep hygiene, ditching 713 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,440 the screens late at night, or at least getting blue blocking 714 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,480 glasses. Do you guys wear blue blockers? 715 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,520 Yeah, at night, yeah, at least so I could watch a show or my 716 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,440 phone and not. You don't just do it at night, 717 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,160 you do it. Oh I do during the day too. 718 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,480 I have the yellow ones. I do the. 719 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680 Day yellow. And the red one for night. 720 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,560 Once you start doing it. Yeah, it makes the. 721 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,000 Big difference. It's very noticeable and it's 722 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,320 hard to go back. I agree. 723 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,600 Yeah, it's like assaulting to the system. 724 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,960 It's like the information, once you know it, you can't go back. 725 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,240 And so all these like little micro acts make a big 726 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,680 difference. And we prep for so many things. 727 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,640 We prep for our wedding day. We prep nurseries for months or 728 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,880 baby showers. But like the most important time 729 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,800 is prepping for the lifelong health of your kids. 730 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,800 And so these little micro acts before will only make you a 731 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,080 healthier person to bring welcome that baby into your 732 00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,960 home. Absolutely. 733 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,200 What's something that quietly wrecks fertility but almost no 734 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,160 one suspects? You know, anytime we talk about 735 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,560 a checklist for preconception will oftentimes add taking care 736 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,920 of your oral health as part of that checklist and people are 737 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,840 shocked. But we learned from so many of 738 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,400 our friends that improving your oral microbiome and reducing, 739 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160 you know, things like gingivitis and inflammation in the gums can 740 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,040 actually improve your fertility. And research shows that women 741 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,240 who have inflammation in their gums, it takes them two to three 742 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:37,960 months longer to get pregnant. So we always say if you want to 743 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,560 get pregnant in 2026, go to the teeth cleaning and when you're 744 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,760 pregnant, making sure to take care of your teeth. 745 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,560 Because a lot of times we'll hear from people like, oh, I 746 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,680 gave birth and now I have cavities and, you know, they 747 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,440 have a lot of oral issues. Because the baby I had a my 748 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640 first ever root canal with my first this as well before we 749 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,840 Nadal and she basically drained every nutrient down to my teeth 750 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,680 and I that was when I also couldn't stomach all the pills 751 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160 and I was like not taking care of myself with supplements and 752 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,160 all that. But yes, they say the baby is 753 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,080 the perfect parasite because they will it'll take from mom. 754 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,960 So if mom's not repleting herself she'll be left 755 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,560 unfortunately slightly damaged like I was. 756 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,840 I. Remember having a teeth cleaning 757 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,360 after my first I was still breastfeeding and my gums were 758 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,960 just bleeding like the most simplest, like touches and and 759 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,320 flossing and yeah, it was terrible. 760 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,080 I think some women are especially vulnerable there too. 761 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,360 And then I started incorporating more like liver into my diet 762 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,040 going forward, and that kind of wasn't as bad for the next two. 763 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520 One other thing that I learned, which was like taking care of my 764 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,880 mental health, it's not something you often talk about. 765 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,480 And for me, type A corporate person, I was checking the box. 766 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,040 OK, Roni taught me about supplement. 767 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,800 I fixed my thyroid and I was doing the the physical things, 768 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,840 but I was a stress basket and I was literally in my head about 769 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,360 everything. And like that's essentially 770 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,920 putting your body in fight or flight mode. 771 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,320 It's prioritizing sending blood to the limbs to run as if you're 772 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,440 being chased by a bear. It's not helping you prioritize 773 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,360 conception. And so once I found gratitude, 774 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,120 once I like learn to slow down a bit and actually prioritize my 775 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,080 nutrition and slowing down, I was able to have my first 776 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,240 daughter Dolly up. But it's often sometimes we 777 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,480 don't think of when we're checking the boxes and the 778 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,760 mental health around the stressful world we're all living 779 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,920 in. And so whatever works for you, 780 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,960 I'd say stress isn't going away, but how you befriend it, whether 781 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,240 it's getting out in nature like this beautiful setting or taking 782 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,960 more walks in the day or meditating or whatever works for 783 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,400 you. There isn't one-size-fits-all, 784 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,840 but combating the stress with some things is so important in 785 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,080 this journey. That's a good one, especially 786 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,640 because we all have the everyday stressors like you mentioned, 787 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,120 but then also the fertility journey in itself can be really 788 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080 stressful for people, especially if you you're in a place where 789 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,320 you feel like you've been trying everything and nothing's 790 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,360 working. Exactly. 791 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,520 I mean, and even if it's easier, there will always be something 792 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,760 stressful that you encounter in, you know, pregnancy all of a 793 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560 sudden, like you don't feel the baby moving or you know, 794 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,320 whatever it may be, it's just like overall could be a very 795 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,560 stressful journey. And now research shows that 796 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,920 gratitude, even in the hardest times can really impact your 797 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,720 Physiology. And so we always tell our 798 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:26,320 community, even if it's hard, you know, are you grateful for 799 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,040 like the sun that's shining? Like you can always find 800 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,680 something to be grateful for and that will change your journey. 801 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,760 And we actually created a gratitude journal that we send 802 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,560 to all of our subscribers when they subscribe to our Together 803 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,880 kit because we just felt like, OK, we're going to arm you with 804 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,800 the nutrients that will help your Physiology, but we want to 805 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,720 empower you with ways to kind of like improve your mind because 806 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,680 there's that mind body connection as well. 807 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,080 Yeah, it's so important both of you have had babies over the age 808 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,920 of 35, which is considered geriatric in modern medicine. 809 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,720 What does that term even mean and what are some misconceptions 810 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:09,840 surrounding geriatric pregnancies? 811 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,600 I don't know if your audience could see my eye roll around 812 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160 that term, but it is infuriating. 813 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,880 It's such a like poisonous term. And for me, I remember the nurse 814 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,160 even saying we have to do this actual word blood work because 815 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,080 you're considered geriatric. And like there's nothing worse 816 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,440 than the mental burden of something that doesn't serve 817 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,960 you, but it only hurts you. I didn't understand at the time, 818 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,760 but it was definitely something that I went into that pregnancy 819 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,760 with more panic because I was termed that. 820 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,760 So to me, it's not any anything other than we need to change the 821 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,880 narrative. More women are actually having 822 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,200 kids in their 40s than their 20s. 823 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,840 So we're at a time where we're all having kids later in life 824 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:47,360 for great reasons. We've entered the workforce, we 825 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,400 have education, we have so many things for women that wasn't 826 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,520 accessible generations ago. And so that's probably why it's 827 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,160 incoming increasingly stressful and these terms don't serve us. 828 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,000 And I think they need to be obsolete. 829 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,840 I mean, even advanced maternal age isn't that much more kind. 830 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,600 So to me also being your own advocate and not getting in your 831 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,440 head with like the stuff you hear around you and doing your 832 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,440 own research, you can feel empowered in your pregnancy and 833 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,880 not defeated with something I wish to pass on. 834 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,080 And I think there's the idea of your biological age versus your 835 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,600 chronological age. You could be 41 years old the 836 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,160 way I was and live a completely healthy lifestyle. 837 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,520 And at the time when I looked at my biological age, I was in my 838 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,280 early 30s. And so if you take care of your 839 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,840 body, your cells actually age slower. 840 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,600 And so that is more important than your actual age. 841 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,960 Now, like we said going back to earlier in the conversation, 842 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,560 your mitochondria matters. And as you age, if you improve 843 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,400 your mitochondria, the battery of the cell, you can essentially 844 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,520 slow down the aging of your eggs. 845 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,400 And so we always say that it's about egg quality versus egg 846 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,440 quantity. Yes, later in life you do have 847 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,640 less eggs, but you just need that one healthy egg to make 848 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,320 that healthy baby. And we can influence that with 849 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,280 our day-to-day choices and and activities and lifestyle. 850 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,440 Yes, our day-to-day choices because the 100 days leading to 851 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,320 your ovulation when the egg is maturing, you really make an 852 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,880 impact on that egg quality and what makes the impact is the 853 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,720 mitochondria. So taking in nutrients that 854 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,040 improve your mitochondria like Coq 10, NAC, we have a product 855 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,840 called Egg Quality Plus, which takes five of the nutrients that 856 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,800 improve egg quality all in one product. 857 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,000 And, you know, doing all the things we talked about because 858 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,520 it makes a big difference. I think that's another thing 859 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840 that isn't talked about often. I think eggs are often thought 860 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,880 of as being set and stagnant. And you know, you get what you 861 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,760 get, what you're born with, and then there's no changing it. 862 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,320 There's no impacting it. But you're saying that we 863 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,760 actually can make an impact in just what did you say, 100 days? 864 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,840 And 100 days. And make a difference. 865 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,560 A big difference in the egg quality. 866 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:23,360 And you know, we hear it from so many of our customers where, you 867 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,960 know, they were on Weenadal, they weren't on Weenadal. 868 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,840 We were just telling you a story of somebody that Vita spoke to 869 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,600 who had no viable embryos. Then her and her husband took 870 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,360 Weenadal and they have 7 viable embryos. 871 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,640 So it makes a big difference and there's so much you could do. 872 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,000 And I think like, you know, back when I started talking to, you 873 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480 know, when we started working on weenatal and I would tell my 874 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,160 fertility Dr. friends, you know, I had my first when I was 38 and 875 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,640 my second when I was 42. They said, well, you're just 876 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,040 lucky. And it's like, no, yes, I think 877 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,120 luck has to do a little bit with it, you know? 878 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,640 You're like I worked so hard to do there. 879 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,000 There's God, but also there's the hard work. 880 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,560 You have to put in the the work. Is it absolutely true that women 881 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040 are born with all of the eggs we will ever have? 882 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:15,560 That's correct. Yeah. 883 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,560 So we probably start off with a couple million eggs and then we 884 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,680 lose them every month. But back to the point, that's 885 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,880 the myth that I that's the thing we hear the most, but no one 886 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,760 talks about the quality. So by about 37 we probably have 887 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,360 10s of thousands. You know, it does reduce every 888 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,760 month, but no one's talking about that 100 day window where 889 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,320 we can improve the quality. And again, all you need is 1 890 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,040 quality good egg. And so let's not again poison 891 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,400 our mind with the numbers. And there's one There's little 892 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,160 put portions of the conversation that matter, but it shouldn't 893 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,800 consume you. Like the terms, you know? 894 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,400 And you guys talk about that three to six month window before 895 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,320 conception as the golden window. What does that mean and why is 896 00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:00,880 that time so powerful? Trimester 0 is so important and 897 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,720 it's not one that most people think about. 898 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,880 We talked about first trimester, second trimester, even 4th 899 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,080 trimester, which we love that people are talking about the 900 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,120 fourth trimester. But trimester 0 is critical for 901 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,240 for a few reasons. So #1 investing in yourself 902 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:21,080 before you're actually pregnant will allow you to build those 903 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,760 nutrient reserves so that when you're actually, when you 904 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:30,240 actually become pregnant, if you have a hard time eating and you 905 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:35,480 can just consume, you know, bread or crackers and like it's 906 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,600 no big deal because you built those nutrient reserves in 907 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,480 advance. And so that's one thing. 908 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:47,120 The second reason is because of this idea of sperm quality takes 909 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,240 has the 72 day window of the spermatogenesis and then that 910 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:55,720 maturing egg has that 100 day window. 911 00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:01,880 And so in those two, you know, for men and for women, you can 912 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,800 really impact the quality of the egg and the sperm. 913 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,600 And so going into fertility and making sure that you did 914 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,800 everything possible to improve your egg quality and your sperm 915 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,160 quality will just give you such a greater start. 916 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,760 It's like you wouldn't plant a seed without in, in dirt without 917 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,520 nurturing the dirt. You would, you would really take 918 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,880 care of that. In order to plant like a 919 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,600 beautiful strawberry or whatever it may be, you have to take care 920 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,840 of your body together. And so we, we talk about 921 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,720 preconception trimester 0 all the time to the point where 922 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:43,560 sometimes customers tell us like, wait, are you like, does 923 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960 should now I'm pregnant? Like what should I like, should 924 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,720 I take, continue taking your prenatal? 925 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:52,240 Yes, but we are so passionate about trimester 0 because it can 926 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,280 make or break your entire experience. 927 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,400 And like I said, even postpartum, if you go into 928 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,640 pregnancy depleted, you know, game over for for postpartum, 929 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,800 you're going to be so much more depleted and exhausted in 930 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,760 postpartum. Because you've just grown a baby 931 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,800 and given birth to a baby, and then often times you're nursing 932 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,560 that baby. And so there goes, yeah, not 933 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,480 getting sleep. Absolutely. 934 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,640 And I've heard that term trimester 4A lot. 935 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,200 But this is the first time I've heard trimester zero. 936 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,360 I love that you guys are are talking about that. 937 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,640 Beyond taking a high quality prenatal, what else can women do 938 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,520 once they get pregnant to continue to support their 939 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,640 bodies? I think it's, you know, 940 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,280 continuing to do the things that they did in trimester 0, which 941 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,080 sets the foundation right, but continuing to focus on eating 942 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,400 clean. Movement, you know, I think 943 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,560 movement is one that we didn't really talk about, but also like 944 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,360 not too much and not too little, like finding the sweet spot that 945 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,240 works for you. I think continuing to connect 946 00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:59,640 with your partner, that's another one too, that sometimes 947 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:05,200 when you're, you have struggles and you're, you know, going down 948 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,360 the, the, the rabbit hole of like treatments or whatever it 949 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,000 may be, you forget to have fun. And it's just like focusing on 950 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,760 those things, joy, community, friends, all of those things can 951 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,120 really like help your journey. For any woman that has 952 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,320 experienced miscarriage or loss and it's just out of place of 953 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,480 feeling hopeless, how would you encourage them? 954 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:31,760 We've been there, first of all. So we want to open up We Needle 955 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,400 as their community first and foremost. 956 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,440 Our brand is about community over isolation, education over 957 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,200 fear. And So what I'd say is that 958 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,480 gratitude helped me in the darkest days. 959 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,600 And while it's so hard in the moment and it's hard to really 960 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,920 envision the baby's coming, and I have faith in the timing and I 961 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,280 know my body can do this for me. Tony recommended the book Spirit 962 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,960 Babies. And it really talked about the 963 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,880 soul is still there and it's waiting for you. 964 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,760 And so I found a little bit of light. 965 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,720 But I'd say now more than ever, community is so important. 966 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:09,600 And often times I came from a culture where you don't really 967 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,840 tell anyone you had a miscarriage. 968 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,760 You kind of brush under the rug and you're you're strong. 969 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,440 And I want to go back to my corporate career and not be, you 970 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,320 know, weak Percy. But now more than ever is when 971 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,360 you need to lean in, when the friends do matter and it's a 972 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,760 community you want to create anyway as you go into 973 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,520 parenthood. And they say it takes a village 974 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,920 because it really does. But for me, if you can have 975 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,160 faith in the timing of your baby, if you can have faith in 976 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,280 why it happened and that there will be a light and finding 977 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,720 gratitude, it can be comforting. I know it's hard. 978 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,840 Yeah, I'm going back to the idea of community, talking about your 979 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,000 loss and sharing about it. If people do that, they'll 980 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,360 realize that so many people in their circle have actually had 981 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,400 losses. And for me, my friend Lillian 982 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,920 had multiple losses before having her first child. 983 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,040 And sometimes you have to hear those like positive outcomes of 984 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,280 like other people to believe that it can actually happen to 985 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,840 you. And that's why with We Needle, 986 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,800 we're so passionate about sharing our story and talking 987 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,720 about it and letting people know it's not too late. 988 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,520 There are solutions. There's so much you could do 989 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,080 because we were there. We were at our lowest spot. 990 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,280 And even though for us, it was the most painful time of our 991 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,760 lives, I'm so grateful that we had these miscarriages a week 992 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,760 apart. We're so grateful for those two 993 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,080 souls that came into our lives because it really gave us our 994 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,760 purpose. And now with that, we're able to 995 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,480 help so many people. And we there's not a day that 996 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,320 goes by that I don't open my inbox and people say, you know, 997 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,840 I couldn't have done this without you. 998 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,720 They share their ultrasound pictures. 999 00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:57,320 They stop us on the street and say, this is my we needle baby. 1000 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,120 They invite us to their baby showers. 1001 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:06,680 And we are so grateful for, you know, these losses because we 1002 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,800 know that I don't know. For us, it gave us our, our 1003 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,880 lives, mission and our purpose. And we we couldn't have asked 1004 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,920 for anything better. And much easier said than done 1005 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,040 right? You can look back and be 1006 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,960 grateful, but trying to have that faith in the moment that if 1007 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,040 you had lost, perhaps in my case I had multiple and in one case 1008 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,720 the baby was not healthy and there was chromosomal errors. 1009 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,360 And I had faith that when the time is right, I will have my 1010 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,440 healthy baby. And so believing. 1011 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,920 What do you want the woman who blames herself for her 1012 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,600 miscarriage to know? One, it's not all on her. 1013 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,080 I think so much of our brand was because we don't want women to 1014 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,360 take the burden of fertility on themselves. 1015 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,240 And you do the prep, you put your best foot forward and then 1016 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,040 it's back to having a little faith. 1017 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,600 But please know that there's so many circumstances, including 1018 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,120 her partner's health and the world we live in, that could be 1019 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,160 playing into it. And so while I definitely had 1020 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,640 the self blame, I'm hoping that by sharing our story and sharing 1021 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,240 the education and empowering women and couples still more 1022 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,520 look at the science versus go inwards and blame themselves. 1023 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,480 And honestly, sometimes you can be doing everything right and 1024 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,440 it's just not your time. And so, yeah, it's going back to 1025 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:31,240 what Vita said, letting go and just trusting that you know your 1026 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,880 baby will be there with you when the timing is right. 1027 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,280 And now when we look back like and we look at our rainbow 1028 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,480 babies, we couldn't have imagined life any differently. 1029 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,480 They're amazing and they're perfect and they're exactly who 1030 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,600 our daughters intended to be. I love how open both of you are 1031 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,520 about your stories. And I think that the two of you 1032 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,200 are the perfect spokespeople for your brand and the perfect 1033 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,880 people to bring this message for the world. 1034 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,880 Because you've lived the story that probably a lot of your 1035 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,360 customers are dealing with and you've already lived those 1036 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,480 struggles and you've come out of the other side. 1037 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,520 And I just think your message brings so much hope for for so 1038 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,320 many people. So. 1039 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,000 I love that. OK, I want to close this out 1040 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,120 with some bunch of quick rapid fire questions of it. 1041 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,120 What's one thing that you wish every couple would stop doing 1042 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,880 when trying to conceive? Doing it alone. 1043 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,960 Exactly, it's a team sport, get after it together. 1044 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,440 Let's change the narrative. Me to we. 1045 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,680 Love it. What is the fertility myth that 1046 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,800 frustrates you the most? You're too old. 1047 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,960 You're too old to have a baby. Don't let anybody ever tell you 1048 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,240 you're too old. And even if you it doesn't 1049 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,200 happen exactly the way that you wanted it to happen, we have a 1050 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,880 team member that had her son at the age of 57. 1051 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440 She used the donor egg and she carried her son to term. 1052 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,480 And so there is always a way. It might not be exactly what you 1053 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,640 want your way to be like, or how you planned it, but you know 1054 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,880 there's always a way. What is 1 simple daily habit 1055 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,080 that quietly supports fertility? I would say for me sleep. 1056 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,600 Sleep is the best thing ever, yeah. 1057 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,160 You can't really get around that one can't get around. 1058 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,440 That one that was a game changer. 1059 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,280 That's actually why we launched a magnesium my or ring scores 1060 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,360 were insanity. I tried everything weighted 1061 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,600 blankets, eye pillows anyways Melton none of it worked and our 1062 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,520 new magnesium is epic. If anyone has sleep issues and 1063 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,240 also movement, we're sitting way too long and we're indoors way 1064 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,840 too long. And so for me, incorporating 1065 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,240 some walking, zoom meetings and walking and talking and like 1066 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,160 finding ways to incorporate it in your everyday life. 1067 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,400 Kelly talks about doing squats between meetings and whatever 1068 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,320 works for you. Again, it's it's not 1069 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,120 one-size-fits-all, but just trying to incorporate small 1070 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,880 micro habits can be a game changer. 1071 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,040 I love those. I completely agree. 1072 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,480 I'm always you can ask the crew. I'm always doing like, air 1073 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,880 squats between podcast recordings. 1074 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,600 And yeah, I think it's just realizing like, how backwards 1075 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,600 our environment is and our lifestyles are and trying to, 1076 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,240 like, find little ways to, like, inch back towards living a more 1077 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,200 ancestral lifestyle. Agreed completely. 1078 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,200 And sometimes it's just these these small things that if we're 1079 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,200 consistent with them, it really adds up. 01 more Back to that 1080 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,400 oral health tongue scraping. Our good friend Doctor Lydia, 1081 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,600 who's an amazing dentist, told us that's a game changer and I 1082 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,440 never stopped doing it ever since she told us. 1083 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,040 Oh my gosh. Morning and night tongue. 1084 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:30,880 Scraping. That's one thing. 1085 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,920 It's such a quick easy. Thing and it's a game changer. 1086 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,920 I do oil pulling. Do you guys oil? 1087 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,240 Pull. I haven't she. 1088 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,280 Actually swishing around oil in your mouth for I mean tongue is 1089 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,680 probably a lot quicker. Like I switch around oil in my 1090 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,440 mouth for like 10 minutes. Yeah, most mornings, not every 1091 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,040 morning, but I don't know why I haven't gotten into the habit of 1092 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,280 tongue scraping. Easy. 1093 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,040 So many people talk about it. It's like gratifying. 1094 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,480 You see all the junk leaving your tongue and you're like, 1095 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,480 really? I'm so happy you have to. 1096 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,920 Really like scrape hard. No, no, not really. 1097 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,200 And actually for men, it supports Nitric oxide 1098 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,920 production, which helps support with erection and all those 1099 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,440 things. So, you know, it's all linked. 1100 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,840 It's all linked. OK, another thing I have to 1101 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,800 start. What is something that anyone 1102 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,360 trying to conceive should stay away from or avoid like the 1103 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,120 plague? We'll say a couple folic acid, 1104 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,320 which we talked about. Yeah, if your prenatal has folic 1105 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,800 acid. Stay away. 1106 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,440 And then, you know, those toxins, I would say alcohol, 1107 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,360 marijuana, smoking, those things that seem to be like culturally 1108 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,560 accepted, but they just harm fertility. 1109 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,120 And for men especially, those things go straight to their 1110 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,120 sperm. There's no filter into the 1111 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,120 testicles, so. Yeah, avoiding those, especially 1112 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,280 in that like 3 month window probably really important, yeah. 1113 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,280 What gives you the most hope about the future of fertility 1114 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,520 care? Our customer stories, we hear 1115 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,320 from so many people that they were told they had unexplained 1116 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,920 infertility or IVF was their only option, or they're too old. 1117 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,360 And I can't even tell you. Like sometimes I don't believe 1118 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,440 the stories that I hear from people. 1119 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,360 And that really gives us hope that the narrative is changing 1120 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,680 and that we can really make an impact and help millions of 1121 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,600 people around the world. So good, I love how connected 1122 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,240 you guys are to your customers. You were telling me earlier that 1123 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,600 you actually like regularly take calls with customers. 1124 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,200 That's amazing. So grounding it, you don't know 1125 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,040 what you don't know. We're stuck in the day-to-day, 1126 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,600 but having these customer calls has given us a chance to give 1127 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,320 back, learn what we're doing great, learn what they want more 1128 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,440 of. And it's been humbling honestly, 1129 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,760 hearing these stories and it's like it brings you to tears when 1130 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,480 you see that like people had no hope and have now changed. 1131 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,600 I mean, just last week was a story with 7 embryos after she 1132 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,720 had none and one podcast changed her life. 1133 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,120 It was that one with Courtney Swan and she basically said that 1134 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,600 changed everything for her. It gave her hope. 1135 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,680 She took we Needle for her and her partner and that transformed 1136 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,120 their life. And, and as founders, you know, 1137 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,800 you have the ups and downs of the business. 1138 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,120 They could feel like, I don't know, sometimes we look back and 1139 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:19,000 we think like progress is like you're growing slowly and, and 1140 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,160 talking to the consumers and hearing from them that you 1141 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,680 actually made a difference. Like you responding to Adm gave 1142 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,520 them hope. Or I I'll send voice notes to to 1143 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,560 customers sometimes on DMS and, and, and hearing from them what 1144 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,160 a big difference it made in their lives really continues to 1145 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,440 fuel you as a founder and continue to do what you do and 1146 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,880 continue to innovate and create better products for, for the 1147 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,760 community. Yeah. 1148 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,720 I'm sure it just keeps you guys more connected to your mission 1149 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,680 and not easy to do. By the way, like as a founder, 1150 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,720 we have so much going on. It's so easy to just get caught 1151 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,840 up in our To Do List. And so I'm sure it's not easy to 1152 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,080 set time aside to do that. But just again, shows like how 1153 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,840 much you guys really do care about the people that you're 1154 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,600 supporting and your your mission as a whole. 1155 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,880 So I think that's amazing. OK, I'm going to have you guys 1156 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,240 finish the following sentence. Healthy fertility starts with 1157 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,960 both partners. 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