1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Hey, welcome back to Crosstalk Podcast. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,960 I'm Tomaya. Hi, I'm Andrea. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,880 So I understand, do you ride a bike in Japan? 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,800 No, not anymore. No, I do not. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,720 OK, used to. Used to. 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:16,440 I used to, yes, me too. So if you guys ride a bike, you 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,280 may want to be extra careful. Under the new traffic rules, 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,320 cyclists can now be fined for even small violations. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,760 Yes. That's what I heard. 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,479 Have you noticed any changing in cyclist behavior around you? 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,920 A little bit. I've seen a few more people 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,400 wearing helmets, but I think there was not a law, but there 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,040 was a strong recommendation that started a few years ago, two 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,440 years ago or so, that people should wear helmets, even 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,160 adults. So around that time, from about 16 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:56,560 two years ago, I noticed a lot more elderly people wearing 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,520 helmets. And then with this new change, 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,960 I've even seen some high school students wearing helmets, which 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,240 is nice. OK, yeah, for those guys who 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,280 doesn't know anything about Japanese cyclist rules, you 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,920 know, before there's no clear rules for cycling, OK. 22 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,480 And you know, people doesn't have to wear helmets and you 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,720 know people are listening music while they're cycling. 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,400 Well, I think there was a rule against that, actually. 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,920 Because I was caught, I got in trouble. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,680 That's how I know. Yeah, but. 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,080 It's it's, it's got a stricter now. 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like last time it was just a 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 warning. I didn't have a fine, so I've 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,360 never done that again, obviously, right. 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,200 I just didn't know the rule. Right. 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,320 Me. Me neither, right? 33 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:49,960 And I did get caught, but I think up until now, like you 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,760 cannot, for example, ride a bike with an umbrella. 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,680 You can't hold an umbrella while you're riding a bike. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,160 You cannot have a drink or you shouldn't use your smartphone or 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,520 you shouldn't have earphones on. But it was always a just a 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,040 warning. But I think the difference is 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,240 that now people can be fined, right? 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Yes, it's because many accidents happen in Japan 2020 four and 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,160 five. And OK, yeah, many people got 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,360 hit by a bicycle. OK. 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Some instance are very serious. I think yeah, it can be, can be 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,080 very dangerous. Yes. 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,880 So do you ever see people cycling dangerously around where 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,320 you live? Around where I live, not much. 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:42,600 I live in the countryside and we don't have bike lanes, so people 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,080 just cycle in the street with the cars or on bike paths, which 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,760 is only for bikes and pedestrians. 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,520 No cars can go. I do not see people doing 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,880 dangerous things actually, so that's good. 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Like I never see people holding an umbrella or, you know, using 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,360 their smartphone. People are pretty good about 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,600 that. But in the city, like where we 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:12,280 are here now, there's more cars, there's more people on bikes and 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,920 there's a lot of one way streets in Oklahoma City. 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,840 And so I noticed, like with bicycles, they don't have to 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,560 follow the one way rule. They can go the wrong way, 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,640 right? But what is it with the new 60 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:25,920 rules? Do you know, can they go on the 61 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:27,520 wrong way? I think they still can. 62 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Technically you can't cycle wrong way. 63 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,000 Technically, technically, but I still see people doing it on 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,160 this road that we're on right now, actually. 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,440 I know, yeah. People, it's a big Rd., yes, but 66 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,000 it's a one way Rd., yeah. Right, so maybe people just 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,840 didn't pay attention to the new. Route. 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Yeah, I think, I think it's one of those cases where if a 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,480 policeman is standing there watching, you might follow the 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,400 rule, but if there's no one watching, OK, maybe I'll just go 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,720 this way and right, take my chances. 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,440 Yeah, it's that kind of situation. 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Yeah, one way is very confusing. You know which the cyclists 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,040 can't go any direction. Yeah, right, Yeah, right. 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,000 People doesn't care about it. I think people don't care, 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,080 probably. I wonder. 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,240 I don't know how many people have read the new rules, but 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,520 probably most people are a little bit aware of it, but they 79 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,880 don't really care that deeply. Yeah. 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Maybe this happened a few years ago. 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,280 I was riding a bicycle. It was a rush hour, OK? 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,800 And then there is someone in front of me and then this person 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,400 suddenly changed his course. Oh, OK. 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,360 And that's dangerous. Yeah, it's kind of dangerous. 85 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:47,000 And I, I tried to avoid it because, you know, he he was 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 literally like very close to me. Yeah, yeah. 87 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,520 So I avoided, there was someone next to me. 88 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,800 So I was almost hit this person. Yeah, it's scary. 89 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,240 It's kind of scary. Right. 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,840 You kind of swerve to avoid hitting the bike and you almost 91 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:04,240 hit a car, right, Right. It's very dangerous. 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Yeah, so this person looked at me like, what are you doing, 93 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,080 face? Why are you coming? 94 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:13,320 Over here, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,600 But this, there's a reason, you know, and I told this person, 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,880 no, I'm sorry. I I needed to avoid this person. 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,520 Yeah. You know, the, I see these 98 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:26,240 people sometimes on the road while I'm driving. 99 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,440 Yeah. Like the cyclists, especially 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,560 elderly people change their course suddenly, you know, for 101 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,000 some reasons, maybe some people wanted to avoid small rocks on 102 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,760 the road. Oh, right, right, right. 103 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,440 You know. Yeah, it's actually kind of 104 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,840 true. When you mentioned that, where 105 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:49,080 was that going yesterday? I was driving just yesterday, I 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,720 think I was coming home from work and I was driving on a 107 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,280 regular road and there was the road, of course, where I was. 108 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:59,280 And then next to that, there's kind of a little bike lane area 109 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,320 designated for bicycles, but actually it's not really a 110 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,040 proper bike lane. It's just kind of like the side 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,120 of the road. And so it was really lumpy and 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,520 bumpy. And there's, yeah, like I said, 113 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,320 rocks and stuff. There's pebbles. 114 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,480 And I was thinking, wow, OK, so the new under the new rules, 115 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,280 cyclists are not allowed to ride their bikes on the sidewalk. 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,360 So they have to be in the street with the cars, right? 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,960 But the end, this tiny little lane that's actually not a bike 118 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,920 lane, it's lumpy and there's bombs and there's rocks. 119 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,120 It's actually really more dangerous. 120 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,040 Right. Because if they, like you said, 121 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,400 if they swerve to avoid something or if their tire gets 122 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,360 stuck in a crack and they're, then they're going to fall over 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,000 in front of a car, right And probably be hit. 124 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,520 So it's actually more dangerous, yes. 125 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Busy roads Busy streets have usually like not all bike rains. 126 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Yeah, which is not really a bike lane, it's more like a side of 127 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,120 the road for cars. Right, it's. 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Like the leftover road, right? Like the ditch right in the 129 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,960 ditch, basically. Yeah. 130 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,560 And then? You right in the ditch. 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,360 And so usually there's only like a two or three inch meters. 132 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Wise, I mean, how much is that? 30 centimeters? 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,920 But half of it was concrete and half was asphalt and there's a 134 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,120 crack in the middle, right? So it's actually not a good 135 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,520 situation. No. 136 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:35,120 So it's dangerous for both cars, drivers and cyclists. 137 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Yeah, it is. It really is. 138 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Yes, because you can't. It's not easy to overtaking 139 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,200 these cyclist right from the driver's point of view. 140 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,320 Right. I mean, it's kind of scary 141 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,680 anyway because anyone could fall in front of your car. 142 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:57,560 So I'm always, I try to be extra careful when I'm passing a 143 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,200 cyclist. Yeah, I would just hate to hit 144 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,880 someone. It would be so scary. 145 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Right, Yeah. Have you ever felt scared when a 146 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,920 car passed you on the on a bike? Definitely. 147 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,600 When I first moved to Japan, I had to cycle to work. 148 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,160 I was forced to cycle to work. And so they gave me like a old 149 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Mama chatty to drive. But then during the year, I 150 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,800 ended up buying a nice mountain bike. 151 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,080 So I took my bike to where I was using my bike to go to work. 152 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,000 But also on the weekends, I would go exploring around my 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,640 town and, you know, ride my bike and look around. 154 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,960 And one of the roads that we had to take to, you know, get out of 155 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,800 the town area was like like a doth day, like a Riverside Rd. 156 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,840 which are they're super, super narrow. 157 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,200 And it was just like, it was like gambling with your life 158 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,480 driving on that road. It was so narrow and cars would 159 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,760 get irritated because they wanted to pass you, but it was 160 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,640 too narrow. So it was literally like, I felt 161 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,520 so scared every time I had to drive on that road. 162 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:07,840 How about you? Have you had that experience? 163 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Oh yeah, sometimes I think, you know, cars passing right next to 164 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,800 me. Like, yeah, boom. 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Like super close. Yeah, like super close. 166 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Like if you reach out your arm, you could, you know, tap the 167 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,880 window kind of close. Like it's too close, right? 168 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Yeah. You shouldn't be able to touch 169 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,800 the car. That's too close. 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Yeah. A happy days experience I think 171 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,200 many people have. Yeah, probably. 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,720 Yeah, it's very scary. It is Japan, roads are narrow 173 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,080 and not safer. Yeah, and there's no, very few 174 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,600 cities, maybe big cities, I don't know, but have like proper 175 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,120 bike lanes. And actually I met some people 176 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,880 from Australia last week and they were saying the same thing. 177 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,360 They were like, wow, you know, there's so many cyclists here, 178 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,920 but there's no proper bike lanes. 179 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,800 It's so dangerous. It's very different than 180 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Australia. And there's another issue I 181 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 think here. OK, some intersections have a 182 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,040 separate signals for bikes and pedestrians. 183 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Oh really? But some of the intersections 184 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,200 signals only for a pedestrian. OK, so then in that case the 185 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,880 bike has to. Follow the car signal. 186 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,600 OK, yes, it's confusing. It's confusing. 187 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,320 It's very confusing. Thing we just need one rule yes, 188 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,120 not a case by case situation. Right. 189 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Actually, it's very different in America. 190 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Cyclists are required by law to follow the same rules that the 191 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,560 cars do. So they're always in the road 192 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,160 and they're not on the side of the road. 193 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,800 They can be in the middle of the lane. 194 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,360 That's actually safer because the cars can see you. 195 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,920 And yes, the cars get irritated because then they have to really 196 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,360 pass you, but it's much safer because you're not like going to 197 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,240 be hit by someone trying to pass you really. 198 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,400 But they have to follow the same traffic signals and the same 199 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,320 everything, like the same rules as cars. 200 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,400 And when we turn on a bike, we have to use a hand signal to 201 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,000 indicate whether we're turning left or right. 202 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,200 Did did you see anything like that in Australia when you were 203 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,040 there? Did you see people signaling on 204 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,480 cycles? Oh yeah, yes, I I've seen hand 205 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,480 sign hand. See what? 206 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,960 Do you say hand signals? On signals, yeah. 207 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,560 In Austria, yeah. OK, People do that. 208 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Yeah, without hesitation. Why? 209 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:35,200 Why did Japanese not do? Do you know? 210 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Like why we? We. 211 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Haven't learned. We haven't learned. 212 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,240 But there's also no rule about it too, right? 213 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,920 No, no, there's no rule saying you have to signal. 214 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,880 No, it's it's not on the textbook. 215 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,880 OK, OK. OK, and I only for serious 216 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,320 cyclist have learned this hand sign. 217 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Oh really? OK, maybe I'm wrong, but you 218 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,320 know I used to ride a sports bike. 219 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,240 OK, I learned this hand signal so. 220 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,240 That's interesting. I'm going to check actually, 221 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,520 because near my house we've got a couple of really long roads 222 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,440 that have no stop lights because it's out in the country and 223 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,240 they're St. And so a lot of the kading 224 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,840 cyclists practiced on those roads. 225 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:26,360 They'll they'll all get together. 226 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,800 They'll put their cycling, the big, you know, bikes in a van 227 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,760 and park somewhere, unload their bikes and they just cycle for 228 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,960 practice. But I've never I've never seen 229 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,240 them turn because it's a straight Rd. but I'm curious if 230 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,040 they use hand signals. And the higher speed. 231 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Yeah, yeah. I've never seen them do it 232 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,600 though, 'cause it just, I've only seen them going straight. 233 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,440 Yeah, they're fast though. They're really fast. 234 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,160 They. Are. 235 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Yeah, their leg muscles look like a tree. 236 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,440 Like a log. Yeah, it's like a log. 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,960 It's. Crazy though, yeah, You know, we 238 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,160 have to separate those, you know, professional cyclists and. 239 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,800 Like everyday people. Yeah, for everyday people like. 240 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Yeah. I think it the new rules is not 241 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:15,400 strict enough. It's probably not because 242 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,360 actually, you know, people are talking about it and apparently 243 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,920 it changed on April 1st. But have you seen anyone 244 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,200 enforcing this? I haven't. 245 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,800 No. I mean, I haven't seen any 246 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,200 policemen standing outside, like check in. 247 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,480 I haven't seen anything happening, which, you know, And 248 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,520 then also, like, again, we're in a rural area. 249 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:43,520 So when the rule says don't cycle on the sidewalk, people 250 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,040 don't really care people because they're used to it. 251 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,280 And it's actually safer to be on the sidewalk. 252 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,440 And it's not crowded here if you're in a crowded area like 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Kyoto, OK, fine. I understand. 254 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,800 But come on. It's OK, Emma, right? 255 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,960 There are no pedestrians here. No one cares, right? 256 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,480 No one cares where you cycle. So I'm just I have a one last 257 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,520 question before we finishing up this episode. 258 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,160 All right. Have you ever been in a bike 259 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,680 accident? Bike accident? 260 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:18,680 No, no I have not. I've almost been in an accident. 261 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,280 That's, that's good, yeah. I was very lucky. 262 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,040 I was riding my bicycle going to work. 263 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,960 I was going kind of fast, actually not super fast, but 264 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,080 kind of fast. And a very small child ran out 265 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,720 into the street and there was a wall around his house, so I 266 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,080 couldn't see into his yard. And he just ran out in front of 267 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,600 my bicycle. So I I swerved to not hit him 268 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,920 and like you said at the beginning, thank goodness there 269 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,280 was no car coming behind me because I would have been toast. 270 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,680 Yeah, scary. It was scary. 271 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,680 It was very scary. I didn't want to hit the child 272 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,680 and I didn't want someone to hit me from behind. 273 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,480 So yeah, we were all lucky. How about you? 274 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Have you been in a bike accident? 275 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Not by myself. Oh, what happened? 276 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,720 When I was six or seven years old, my mom and me, we were 277 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:20,800 riding double and somehow I got thrown off from. 278 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,120 The bike. Oh my goodness. 279 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,160 I don't remember clearly but it was I was bleeding from my leg. 280 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,880 We went a clinic I think and I still have a score on my. 281 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Leg, really. It must have been pretty 282 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,960 serious. Yeah. 283 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,280 So you mean you were riding double, you were on the back of 284 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,960 her bike, or you were riding next to her on your bike? 285 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 I was riding the back of her. OK. 286 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,640 And you got thrown off the bike. That's scary. 287 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Yes. But I could see how it would 288 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,760 happen because, yeah, I've put my child on the back of my bike 289 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,720 and you can't see, like if you're driving the bike a ride 290 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,240 and you can't see what's happening. 291 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,000 So the child could easily fall off. 292 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Yeah, that was probably a serious injury I got, but as I 293 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,080 said, I was only 6-7. OK, don't remember clearly. 294 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,840 OK. I'm glad it didn't traumatize 295 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,800 you. I'm glad you're OK. 296 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,520 Maybe I lost memory. You were too you. 297 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Forgot. Is that what you mean? 298 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Maybe you've suppressed memories? 299 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,320 You have suppressed memories from super super trauma. 300 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Right. Maybe right. 301 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,520 That's our episode for today. All right. 302 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Thanks for listening, guys. We'd like to hear from you 303 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,720 before we go have the new bicycle rules change the way you 304 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,560 ride your bicycle. Please let us know. 305 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240 OK. And please share your stories on 306 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,440 our podcast website. OK. 307 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,800 And that address is. Podcast dot crosstalk dot me OK. 308 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,160 This is Crosstalk signing off, bringing you English your way 309 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,520 every week. Keep listening and keep shining 310 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,280 bye.