1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,240 Hey, welcome back to Crosstalk Podcast. 2 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:03,960 I'm Tomaya. Hi, I'm Andrea. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,920 There's many things happening in the news lately. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,800 Oh, Trump announced a new tariff and there was a big fight in 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Mexico. Oh, right. 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Yes, I'm actually a little bit worried about that one because I 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,760 have someone traveling, a friend traveling in Mexico right now. 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,920 Yes, El Moncho, one of the most wanted culture leaders for many 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,000 years. Yeah, but he's actually quite 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,360 young. He was quite young. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Yeah, apparently he was killed and cartel is kind of like the 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,040 mafia basically, right? So he he was the leader of their 13 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:39,080 kind of mafia group and he got killed. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,200 But all of his followers and, you know, the smaller branches 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,880 are all fighting now. It looks scary. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,960 It looks very scary, yeah. Would not want to be in Mexico 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,840 right now. No, the follower of this El 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Muncho. They started blocking roads and 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,720 setting cars on fire. Right. 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,680 I've seen pictures of cars on fire, buses on fire, 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,440 supermarkets on fire, everything's on, everything's on 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,200 fire. Damn crazy. 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,800 But it's very scary, I think, because like tourists, it's not 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,880 all over the country. It's just in some cities. 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,080 But, you know, tourists rely on buses and trains to get around, 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,160 and these things are stopping. These services are stopping 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,720 because it's dangerous. So a lot of people are getting 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,000 stuck there. I hope visitors can go back to 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,960 their own countries soon. I yeah, safely. 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,080 One of the problems is, you know, the World Cup next year, 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,880 is it next year this year? This year is going to be hosted 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,880 in the USA, Canada and Mexico. And people are kind of wondering 33 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,920 now, is Mexico going to be able to host? 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,080 And also, like America, is America going to be able to 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,480 host? Because we're also having 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,960 massive riots and demonstrations. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,160 And also immigration is really, really strict right now going 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,800 into America. So it's really, really turbulent 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,360 times. Turbulent time. 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Yeah, turbulent times in North America. 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Oh my God. Canada is the only stable 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:13,120 country of the three, I think. Yeah, I saw the TV news and 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,600 saying it might be too dangerous for fans and tourists. 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Yeah, at the moment, if it if it's like this, it would be. 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,080 So the World Cup soccer will be held in June this year. 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,800 Oh, wow, that's only a few months away. 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,360 Yeah, yeah. We still have sometimes, but we 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 don't know what would it be a situation? 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,920 Right, I think, I think experts are predicting that the 50 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:41,000 situation in Mexico will calm down. 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,200 OK. But America? 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Who knows? It's a wild card, right? 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,120 So we have been talking about this heavy big news, but that's 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,360 not the topic we I want to talk today, OK? 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,200 We want to talk about something really small. 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,960 It's not political, it's not crime. 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,200 It's something really quiet. OK, so the story was about a 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,240 baby named the Punch at the Ishikawa Zoo. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Japan punch, Yeah. And what happened to this baby 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,960 explains why so many people felt connected to it. 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,040 OK, I saw actually a story about Punch first on the Japanese 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,760 news, but Punch has also been on international news as well. 63 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:30,120 Yeah, I'm surprised I saw the picture of Punchy, like a 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,440 dragging that stuffed the doll. Yeah, a stuffed monkey doll. 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Yeah, Yeah. Which is bigger than he is, 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Yeah. And I was like, OK, here's 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,160 another meme from somewhere in the world. 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Oh, you thought it was a meme? Yeah. 69 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Oh. It turned out it's actually from 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Japan, and it's it's kind of a heartwarming story. 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,400 Yeah, it's kind of heartbreaking too, really. 72 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,840 Yeah, I was sad. I think Punch's story was really 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,600 sad. OK, let's get into it. 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,640 OK. So the punch is the baby 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,200 chimpanzee. OK, After Punch was born, the 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,120 mother did not care for her baby. 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,920 But chimpanzees, A baby cannot live without its mother, right? 78 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Right. So the dookeeper stepped in. 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,440 People saw a tiny life depending on human help. 80 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,800 The story was shared by big media around the world, 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,840 including the BBC and some other big media. 82 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:31,080 Yeah, I saw it in the New York Times, actually, on the 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,200 newspaper, online newspaper. And it's been on the Japanese, 84 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,320 it's been on NHK as well. Yeah, I saw the title of punchy 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,880 on the half post, half inton post. 86 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Oh, really? OK. 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,280 And Forbes as well and half inton post even introduced how 88 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:50,640 to get to this to. Oh, really? 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Yes. OK, They're going to have a lot 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,480 of visitors then. That's my guess, yeah. 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,240 They're going to be busy. Yeah, they're going to be busy. 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Yeah. Because, you know, the phenomena 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,080 of, you know, really cute baby animals that go viral on media 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,920 or social media. This is not the first time 95 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:14,960 before Punch, was it last year or maybe two years ago, there 96 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,400 was a baby hippo in Thailand that went viral and everybody 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,720 went to Thailand to see this little baby hippo. 98 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,880 It was just so cute. And then after that there was a 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,120 giant Penguin in Australia, I think. 100 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,560 And he was also, he didn't have a mother, but he was raised by 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,560 two other Penguins. The the parent Penguins were 102 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,400 normal sized, but the baby was a giant king Penguin or emperor 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Penguin. And he was huge. 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,240 He also went viral and everyone ran down to Australia to see 105 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,640 this baby Penguin who was actually bigger than his 106 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,120 parents. But yeah, so like, I think Punch 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,960 will get a lot of real life attention and a lot of people 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,320 will go to Ishikawa. Yeah, for sure. 109 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:06,280 So you mentioned this is not a a happy story, it's also a sad 110 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:09,040 story. What part of is the thought for 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,680 you? Because he's a little baby and 112 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,040 he didn't have a Mama. True. 113 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,840 No, as, as you know, someone who loves animals. 114 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,720 I saw this little abandoned baby monkey and I'm just like, oh, 115 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,960 he's so cute. Why did the mom reject him? 116 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,280 Right. So I actually started reading 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,320 before you. You told me we were going to 118 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,640 talk about Punch today. I was actually reading about 119 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Punch's story. And the zookeepers don't know 120 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:42,000 why the mother abandoned him, but they think it's because she 121 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,480 gave birth to him in the, like, the hottest part of summer and 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:51,040 she had a very hard labor. And so like, she kind of, you 123 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,600 know, didn't want to care for him after that because she 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,600 herself had a hard time recovering. 125 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,960 But, you know, there's many reasons why animals abandoned 126 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,760 their babies, and it happens quite frequently apparently. 127 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,720 But so the problem is because he didn't have a mother to watch 128 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,440 for him and take care of him, then the other adults, monkeys 129 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,440 were bullying him. And he, you know, he's just a 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,200 little baby. He can't really defend himself. 131 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,880 And he didn't really have any other monkey friends. 132 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,840 He was literally, like, outcast. And he was, you know, the only 133 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,080 one, like, sitting alone by himself. 134 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Like, he just looks so lonely. And that's why I thought it was, 135 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,400 oh, this is heartbreaking. I see, I see what you mean and 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,640 also I have read following up news this punchy started 137 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,400 grooming other chimpanzees so which which shows the good signs 138 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,640 because it's becoming a friend. Oh yes I read that too, but I 139 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,280 heard that they were grooming him. 140 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,160 They started to groom him. OK, OK. 141 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,400 So that kind of meant like he there is starting to accept him 142 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,280 as another monkey in their group. 143 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,840 And it was, you know, younger monkeys too and older monkeys. 144 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,320 But some of the younger monkeys look. 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,680 So he has playmates now. Oh good. 146 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 But like also, it was sad when when they first shared his story 147 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,840 because he's tiny. He's a little, tiny little bitty 148 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,880 monkey. And they gave him this stuffed 149 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,640 animal toy as kind of like a surrogate mother so he could 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,320 have something to hold on to because, you know, little baby 151 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,040 monkeys, they usually hold on to their mother. 152 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,280 But the toy was bigger than he was. 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,360 And so he'd, like, struggled to drag this toy around. 154 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,160 And I just felt so sorry for the little baby. 155 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Yeah, this is a picture of Panchi that I saw a first time 156 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,760 and I was like, I didn't know what was the what was happening 157 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,320 in the scene. Yeah, that was probably a very 158 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,280 important scenes, I guess. Yeah, cuz he, the surrogate doll 159 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 was bigger than he was, of course, cuz it has to be in 160 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,000 order to replace his mother. But then he had to drag it 161 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,600 around with them and it was very heavy. 162 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,400 So is he still carrying this stuffed animal I. 163 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:05,040 Don't know. I don't know. 164 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,880 I think maybe but he like you've mentioned, he does have friends 165 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,680 now. So he's not completely alone 166 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:11,600 now. OK. 167 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,840 Why did you think it was heartwarming? 168 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,320 It's because his mother hasn't died yet. 169 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,520 Oh. His real mother. 170 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,960 Real mother. Oh yeah, she's probably, they 171 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 haven't mentioned that, but I guess she's still in the group 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,040 of monkeys. Yeah, Mother, just just ignore 173 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:32,440 or ring him. That's so I thought that was OK. 174 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,960 Really. That's so sad. 175 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,400 For me, that's the heartbreaking part. 176 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,040 As long as this mother lived, you know, Yeah, they can see 177 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,840 each other. So I thought this. 178 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Was does he know it's his mother? 179 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,080 That's my next question, and I don't know if he knows it's his 180 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,120 mother. Oh, that's another question. 181 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,280 Because I've only seen him holding onto the doll and then 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,400 also to like a zookeeper's leg. Like the zookeeper was walking 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,680 around feeding the animal, like feeding the other monkeys and 184 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,840 taking care of them. And Punch was kind of attached 185 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,760 to this guy's leg like he would be to his mother, so, but I 186 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,000 haven't seen him interacting with his real mother, so I don't 187 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,360 know. I don't know. 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,160 That makes me think of, you know, can dogs recognize their 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,600 mother or father? Oh, I think, I wonder. 190 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,680 Yeah. If the dogs, any other animals 191 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:29,360 can recognize their parents, you know, which is real sad story, 192 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,840 you know they need to live separately. 193 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Yeah, it's not really sad, though, too much because 194 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:40,880 actually with cats and dogs both, if you have, for example, 195 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,000 if you get cats from the same parents they have, you know, 196 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,200 they're born at the same time, the same litter of kittens. 197 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,720 If you have, for example, two boy cats, they end up fighting 198 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,080 and being very territorial and so one of them will usually run 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,880 away so that they can make their own territory. 200 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,440 So I mean, it's kind of better to separate them before they get 201 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,080 to that point because they do fight and they do injure each 202 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,440 other. Dogs too. 203 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Like there's there's a real rivalry between brother and 204 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 sister dogs, so you have to kind of separate them before they 205 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,720 start fighting. Oh, really? 206 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,800 Yeah, actually, yeah. So that's not actually that bad. 207 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:25,880 That's not too sad. OK, so if this theory applied to 208 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,360 the monkey chimpanzee, it's not going to be a real sad story for 209 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,600 me. Man, but parents like the 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,880 parents abandoning babies I think is for me very sad. 211 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Yeah, of course. Because humans of course, do 212 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,320 that too. And that's also very sad. 213 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,360 I just, you know, like, like some people, some humans, when 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,960 you like women who have babies, most people have a mothering 215 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,560 instinct. Like your instinct kicks in and 216 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:55,120 you just, you know how to become a mother. 217 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,560 But some people don't have that. And I think some monkeys also 218 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,600 don't have that. And so maybe that's what 219 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,360 happened here with Punch. Like his mother just didn't have 220 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:09,440 that maternal feeling, that instinct to be a mother could 221 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,400 be, you know? OK, probably. 222 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:18,000 It's, it's interesting thinking to me because, you know, as you 223 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,360 said, some of the individual animals abandoned their child. 224 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Yes, yes, including humans. Yeah, some humans do. 225 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Most people do not. The more majority do not. 226 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,960 And most people raise their own children. 227 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,440 Yeah, some people do, right? Yeah, I haven't mentioned this, 228 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,040 but I was the one abandoned from my father. 229 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,560 So no, that's not true. That's not true. 230 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,640 Yeah. Well, fathers are different. 231 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,440 Like fathers in the animal world too. 232 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,200 Like fathers make babies, but they don't necessarily, you 233 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,600 know, most species, the father doesn't care for the baby. 234 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,240 It's usually the mother. So that's that's normal. 235 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,760 That's actually normal. When the father just makes a 236 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,280 baby and goes on. That's normal. 237 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,680 Yeah. That's not, that's not 238 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:01,640 exceptional. Yeah. 239 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,400 The. Father are OK to abandon their 240 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,560 babies. Not OK, but it's just like they 241 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:12,640 don't have that social structure where they're forced to take 242 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,680 care of their babies except in humans. 243 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,120 But then it's still a natural for some people. 244 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Of course. Yeah. 245 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Yeah. But your mother didn't abandoned 246 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,480 you. Your mother's the main ones. 247 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,800 Not yet. Not yet. 248 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Well, you're old enough that she could. 249 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,520 She probably should have abandoned you. 250 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Now, I don't know. But like in Japan, this is, this 251 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,240 is getting off the topic of monkeys, but a lot of people 252 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,200 still live at home with their parents regardless of age. 253 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:43,000 And like for Americans, that's a little bit strange. 254 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,880 I think it's only America or maybe American, British people. 255 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,920 But like once you're 18 or 20, your parents kind of expect you 256 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,840 to get out. 20. Yeah, move out. 257 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,360 Like, get out of our house. You're an adult now and go work. 258 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Get your own place. Shoe, shoe, right? 259 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,400 I didn't know this culture difference. 260 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Yeah, it's a big cultural difference, yeah. 261 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,640 But if you look at like older societies like Japan, China, 262 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Korea, even into like Mexico, South America, a lot of older 263 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,680 cultures, you'll have people living with their parents and 264 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,840 their grandparents, you know, from 2-3 generations. 265 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,680 And that's normal. So I saw this comedy video many 266 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,040 years ago. Their main personality asked 267 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,920 audience, where do you live? And then the the guy answered 268 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,640 Tim, I lived with my mother. And then everyone laughed at 269 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,000 him, and I didn't know why everyone laughed because 270 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,120 usually, as you said, men. Well, anyone? 271 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Anyone, anyone more than 20 years old or something, they 272 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,640 they should leave the house. Yeah, it's kind of expected that 273 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,920 you'll you'll leave and get your own place and, you know, start 274 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,040 working. So yeah. 275 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,680 That's the reason, you know, the audience laughed at him. 276 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,200 You know, this guy should answer. 277 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,720 You know, I live, you know, with my girlfriend or something. 278 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Yeah, I live. I live in Doko Soko area. 279 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Yeah, that's the expected answer. 280 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Yeah, probably. I mean, honestly, though, some 281 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,160 people do live with their parents if they're, if they're 282 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,800 caring for someone elderly or, you know, nowadays, like after 283 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,800 the pandemic, a lot of people after the pandemic lost their 284 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,960 jobs and lost their homes. And so they did move in with 285 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,720 their parents or become homeless, you know, so it's, 286 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,080 it's less of a thing now. But I think pre pandemic, it was 287 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,960 expected that you live by yourself or live, live away from 288 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,480 your parents anyway. And for me, just speaking, 289 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:55,160 speaking personally for me, I I lived at home until I was like 290 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,920 22 ish 23. But I was going to school full 291 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,960 time, so I wasn't at home all the time. 292 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,360 But then I moved out. Yeah. 293 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 And I think my sister moved out as soon as she. 294 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Well, when we were in college, we were out and then we just 295 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,320 never went back home. Right. 296 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Just live in the dormitories. And then you come and you get 297 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,920 your own place. Yeah. 298 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,760 How about you? When did you move out of your 299 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,960 house? I moved out my house around 20 300 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,800 something. OK. 301 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Yeah, early to mid 20s, that's probably normal. 302 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,480 Yeah, in America too, that's probably normal. 303 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,120 So I have some question for this topic today. 304 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:30,920 OK. All right. 305 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,600 So if you worked at 2:00, which animal would you give extra 306 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 snacks to when no one is looking? 307 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,800 Oh, I think I would give extra snacks to all the animals. 308 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,080 You know how I am. I love a baby animal. 309 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,600 I love animals in general, right? 310 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,160 I would give snacks to anyone who wanted a snack. 311 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,760 OK. That's a very good answer. 312 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,920 How about you? Who would you give snacks to? 313 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Oh, I would give us next to very friendly animal to me. 314 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,880 OK, that's a good answer too. Yeah. 315 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,960 Yeah, I don't have a specific species I like. 316 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,880 OK, I do. I like certain species. 317 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,680 I like everyone, but more than others. 318 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,800 There's I do have favorites. You don't have favorite animals. 319 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,880 Except dog. OK, but dogs would not be in a 320 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,079 zoo, right? Right, Right. 321 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,079 Dogs and cats are not in the zoo. 322 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,680 No. Would you give a snack to 323 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,840 crocodile? That's. 324 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,240 The only animal I don't like. So I mean maybe, but probably 325 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,160 not hit that, maybe not to. Crocodile. 326 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,440 She lied about it. Yeah, I forgot about that, 327 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,680 actually. Elephants though, like they're 328 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,760 very intelligent. They would probably come and ask 329 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,880 you for extra peanuts. Yeah, they're very, they're very 330 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,280 smart. Yeah, very charming to giraffes. 331 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,560 They're very smart and charming. Also, they like to eat birds. 332 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Yeah, birds are kind of so. So my favorite animal at the zoo 333 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,200 is see Seal. Seal, Seal. 334 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,720 They're just so pretty. They smell terrible, but they're 335 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,920 just so pretty. Do. 336 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:10,840 You have a favorite zoo animal to watch. 337 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,320 Not really. Really. 338 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,960 Oh, it's not a animal, but I like I forgot able. 339 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,720 What is it in Japanese? Could I get jellyfish? 340 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,680 Oh yeah, I like jellyfish. Jellyfish. 341 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,480 They don't have a brain. That's why I like it. 342 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,120 I mean, they're pretty, but that's about it. 343 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,800 It's. Not animal though. 344 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Well. It's a sea animal. 345 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,840 Sea Animal. I'll be graceful and give you 346 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,400 that. Yeah. 347 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,280 But if you. Yeah, if you like jellyfish. 348 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,920 If anyone else likes jellyfish, you should go to Shikoku 349 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,640 Aquarium and Shikoku. They have a nice small 350 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,320 collection of beautiful jellyfish. 351 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Okay, about one more question. Okay, do you like giving pets 352 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,280 human names like Kevin or you like cute animal names, for 353 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,160 example Marshmallow? Oh, I think I prefer human 354 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,640 names. Yeah, actually you are very good 355 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,360 at giving a name to animals. Am I? 356 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,080 I'm not. I don't know if I'm good at it, 357 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,920 but I tend, not always, but I tend to give my animals human 358 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,920 names. Yeah, even in the past, like the 359 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,040 dogs and cats that I was allowed to name, I usually gave them 360 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,240 human names. That's nice. 361 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,160 Yeah. So you can have a deeper 362 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,400 connection to your pets, right? Yeah, and I just think it's 363 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,320 funny. I don't know why. 364 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,520 I just think it's funny. There's no reason. 365 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,240 It just makes me laugh. Yeah. 366 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Yeah. OK. 367 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,120 How about you? I don't really had a chance to 368 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,840 give a name to my pets. OK, so I don't have any 369 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,200 preference. OK, yeah, your mom named your 370 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,640 last D your current dogs, right? What about your previous dog? 371 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Previous dog I think I named him. 372 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,760 I took name from ATV game. Oh, OK. 373 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,360 What was his name? Vardy. 374 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,720 That's cute. OK. 375 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:05,760 This punchy story reminds me of. Our neighbor Foot, Stray cats, 376 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,680 Punchy and Buster. Uh huh. 377 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Yes, we did have some cats around here that we gave names 378 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,560 to Punch and Buster. Yeah, so there's many stray cats 379 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,240 around my neighbor foot. Yeah, they weren't my pets, of 380 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,840 course. Right, they're just stray cats 381 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,880 outdoors. Yeah, but we sew them almost 382 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,360 every day here and there. Yeah, and we sometimes leave the 383 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,960 food for them. Yes, but don't tell anyone she. 384 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,360 You're not supposed to do that, right? 385 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,240 And there are also two really cute cats, Punch and Buster. 386 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 You named them. I did name them because one of 387 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,720 them, you said, punched you when you tried to touch him, right? 388 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,120 So I named him Punch because he tried to punch you. 389 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,960 But then like Punch and Buster, it sounds like a comedy name, 390 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,400 like a comedy team. I thought, oh, that's kind of 391 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,040 cute. And they were always together. 392 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,800 They were always together. So I thought, OK, these guys, 393 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,680 they make a good team. Yeah, you found this real 394 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,040 comedian Punch and Buster. Old, old, old. 395 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,560 Group. Yes, yes, like from the. 1930s 396 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,960 or something, I don't know. Yes, super. 397 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Old yeah, we took name from them, but we haven't seen them 398 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,600 for many, many years. No, not for a few years. 399 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,360 Yeah. And I also had a stray cat at my 400 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,600 house that I named Peanut. And I don't know why I named him 401 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Peanut, just because he was not really super smart. 402 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,160 He had like a peanut brain. He was cute, though. 403 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,400 But he would come up to our yard and, you know, look for food and 404 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,360 I would give him food sometimes, yeah. 405 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,480 Then he also went away and I don't know where he went. 406 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,360 So it's been years now since Punch and Buster has been 407 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:47,560 missing. Yeah. 408 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,680 And we never found out what happened them. 409 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Yeah, it's sad. Yeah, it's, it's, it's sad. 410 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,360 I hope they're OK. And I also want to mention one 411 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,800 little tiny touivier. OK for today's episode. 412 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,000 Oh, OK. Have you heard of a cat 413 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,480 distribution system? Cat distribution system? 414 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,400 No. What is that? 415 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,040 It's a joke about how to people how people get the cats. 416 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Oh, OK, so people say you never plan to get a cat. 417 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,360 The universe just sent you one to you. 418 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:24,120 Oh. Oh okay, like it's distributed 419 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:28,200 by the universe right? Oh cute, I like that I got lucky 420 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,200 I got 2. The universe sent you 2 cats I. 421 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Got 2 cats I got like buy one get one free special. 422 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Yeah, and I haven't got one. So the universe haven't decided 423 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,400 to send me one yet. You are unlucky, man. 424 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,760 I just wondered how many of our listeners have cats. 425 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,120 I would like to ask about that when we do our live streaming. 426 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:55,080 Live streaming? Yeah, let's talk about cats. 427 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,080 And I want to see what kind of pets you guys have. 428 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,000 OK, yeah, OK, that's all for this episode today. 429 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,120 All right, we'd love to hear from you guys. 430 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,320 Do you have any pets? And have you ever had an animal 431 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,000 that's changed your life in any way? 432 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Send us your story to our Instagram or Spotify. 433 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,160 We might Share your story to the future episode. 434 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:19,080 OK, this is crossed off bringing you English your way every week. 435 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240 Keep listening and keep shining bye.