1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 Hi, welcome back to Crosstalk podcast. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,800 I'm Tommya. Hi, I'm Andrea. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Anderson, we got a message from a listener named Unison this. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Week. OK, great. 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,200 Thank you, Unison. Yeah, she says. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,880 I'm planning a trip to Italy and Spain during Golden Week to 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,520 watch football matches. My wish is to make friends while 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,200 traveling in Europe and stay in touch with them after he got 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,120 home. Oh wow, that's great. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,040 That's really nice actually. It is indeed. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,640 It's a good. Goal, yes, and we want to talk 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,520 about this, how to make overseas friends. 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,120 OK. Maybe my specialty, Maybe your 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,160 specialty? No, it's not. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,800 It's really tough to make our friends in the other countries, 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 right? It's difficult, but it's really 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,160 rewarding actually, if you can make it work, yeah. 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Yes, let's talk about it. OK, So Andrea Sound, yes, as an 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,440 American, yes. Do you have friends from your 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,400 travels that you still in touch with today? 21 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:12,200 Not from my travels, but from my study abroad period, yes. 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,640 I have lots of friends who I'm in touch with often, actually. 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Yeah, but you know, I have to, I have to give you a disclaimer. 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,560 When I was young and travelling, there wasn't social media and we 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,440 didn't really have Internet back then. 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,440 So that seems crazy because it wasn't that long ago. 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,120 But I think, I think social media has really changed the 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,280 game now. Oh yeah, was it a game changer? 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Yeah, it has been, yeah. You know, I don't use social 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:46,240 media often, so I don't really connect to with those people who 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,880 I have met in other countries. OK, I have checked the message 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,920 box a while ago and I I got actually a message from one of a 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,200 very good friend. Oh, that's nice. 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,720 Yeah, and then he said, oh, how are you doing? 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,800 I I'm going to Tokyo this summer and would you hang out with me 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,919 or something that he said. Oh, that's nice. 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,759 Where is he from? He's Germany. 38 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:12,200 Nice. Oh, that'd be great. 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,520 Yeah. Are you gonna go to Tokyo? 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,240 No, that was the last year. So no, you and you did not go to 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Tokyo. Did you? 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,080 I did not go to. You should. 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Have gone. You should have gone. 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,520 It's the time I checked this message, it, it was already like 45 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,960 Odom or something, so I messaged him or I'm sorry I I didn't 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,600 check your message, you know? No, you missed a good chance to 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200 hang out with your friend. Yeah, we might have next chance. 48 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,880 I hope so, yeah. You might have to go to Germany 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 next time. Yeah, yeah, that, that might be 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 a plan. Yeah, if I can't afford. 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,000 So you are saying you use social media to keep in touch with 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,520 those friends? Yeah. 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,160 So about how did you or would you make friends in other 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,080 countries? In the 1st place, like when you 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,640 travel, if you are doing something interesting and 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,360 there's another person there and you start chatting with them, 57 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:13,680 then it's pretty easy nowadays to exchange, you know, social 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,160 media contacts like, oh, can I follow you on Instagram or can 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,640 we exchange Instagrams or how can I message you? 60 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:25,520 There's, there's ways to keep in touch with people now that are 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,440 pretty easy where it's not like so personal, right? 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,200 It's, it's kind of a general message board or, you know, a 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,720 general social media app. It's not like a specific phone 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,920 number only for you or, you know, it feels a little safer, I 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:41,760 think. Yeah. 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,800 So I think like going to, you know, you have to go out, 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,120 obviously you have to be sightseeing and going to 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,480 restaurants, going to, you know, events and talk to people who 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,440 are there at the same time as you are. 70 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,840 OK. And so you are saying you can 71 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,520 make friends anywhere anytime while traveling? 72 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,360 You could actually, yeah, you could. 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,360 I mean, I'm just thinking, like I said, when I traveled, I met 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 people and we were friends at the time. 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 But like back in those days, we didn't have a way to keep in 76 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,760 touch. There was no way to keep in 77 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,560 touch with people. If we had had social media back 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,079 then, it would have been much easier to keep in touch. 79 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:24,440 And I probably still be, would still be in touch with many of 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,000 them. Yeah. 81 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:33,240 If I are in other country, I wouldn't be so optimistic about 82 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:38,480 talking to strangers. This might be an American thing 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,720 though, because like, I'm an American and Americans are very 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,440 chatty and very friendly, but we, I mean, not everyone of 85 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,640 course, but some of us. I'm pretty comfortable talking 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,040 with anyone. So, yeah, I have no, no trouble 87 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,120 like starting up a conversation and, you know, asking questions 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,400 and getting to know people. That's very easy for me to do. 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,960 Yeah, not everyone is that way, but you have to if you want to 90 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 make friends. You deson's goal is to make 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:10,000 friends overseas, then you kind of need to push yourself out of 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,640 your comfort zone, right? Yeah. 93 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,440 So I don't know if she plays a football, but does she have 94 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,720 passion to watch these football games, right. 95 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,800 So it's it's easy. It's a tool to talk to 96 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:31,200 strangers, especially you know you visited this a sports. 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,480 Bar. Yeah, sports bar. 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,920 Like even the arena, you know you could make friends with the 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,040 people sitting next to you or around you if you wanted to. 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,400 True. But I feel like there's 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,800 something matters even more, you know, especially you live in the 102 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,040 other side of the side of the world. 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Yeah, right. So I, I feel like, how can I 104 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,440 keep in touch with those people? I see. 105 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,400 I mean, it's kind of, it is hard, honestly, because for 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:06,640 example, the last trip I took, I went to San Francisco and I love 107 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,480 dogs. And I was walking with my father 108 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,360 and my son. We were looking at some 109 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,320 historical area and in that area there was a big park and there 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,040 were lots of people walking dogs. 111 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,680 And there were some beautiful dogs that I didn't know what 112 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,520 kind of breed that was. So I stopped and I was talking 113 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,400 to one of the ladies. I said, oh, your dog is 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,320 beautiful. What kind of dog is this? 115 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,200 And she told me what kind. And so we were chatting about 116 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,320 dogs. I mean, I could have, if I 117 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,480 really wanted to, like I could have exchanged information with 118 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,680 her, but I didn't, you know, I didn't, it was just a one time, 119 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,200 you know, 5 minute conversation. You know, I'm, you're not going 120 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,240 to become like deep friends with every single person you meet, 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,160 right? Even if they have your same 122 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,200 interest just because, you know, we were only there for a few 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,040 minutes in the park. We weren't there for hours on 124 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,520 end, but like it's a football match, you know, you're sitting 125 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,080 in the stadium for, you know, hour and a half, two hours, 3 126 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,600 hours maybe if you're lucky, you could easily, you know, get 127 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,160 chatty with the people around you. 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,120 So it it really depends on the the occasion and how long you're 129 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,560 there and you know, how much time you have to talk with 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,560 people. It's much easier if you spend 131 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,320 the more time with your stranger. 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,680 A new person? Yeah. 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,320 To become a friends. Yeah. 134 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,240 Or like, you know, for example, when I was much younger, I went 135 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,680 to Austria and I went together with my friend and he had 136 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,200 friends already in Austria, but we went out drinking one night 137 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,440 with his friends and their friends. 138 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,440 And so we were all drinking for like hours and hours in this 139 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,800 bar. We were chatting even though I 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 don't speak German at all and they didn't really speak 141 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,960 English. We were chatting and having fun. 142 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,520 I could have become friends with some of them if I had had social 143 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,760 media or e-mail address into something. 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,040 But there's no way to get in touch with there at the time. 145 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,920 There was no way to keep in touch with people you know. 146 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 And at the time, you know, I didn't speak any German. 147 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,280 They barely spoke a like tiny bit of English, but now we have 148 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,480 AI, we have Google Translate and chat GP2 who can translate so 149 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,240 it'd be much easier to make friends now I think. 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,720 And you are really good at keep in touch with those new people 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,000 on the social media. Is that because of you sending 152 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,720 message to them quite frequently or they've sent you a message 153 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,200 often? It might be 5050, it might be 154 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,720 like almost 5050. OK, Recently, OK, for example, I 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,920 didn't travel, I was here, but a woman from Thailand came to 156 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,520 visit this area and I had seen her. 157 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,360 I think she comes sometimes. She joined our Facebook page, 158 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,080 which is for this local area. And I thought, OK, this is 159 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,320 interesting. We have a traveller from 160 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,440 Thailand. OK, cool. 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,960 Well, it turns out she's an artist and she was asking, you 162 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,880 know, who wants to come and have coffee with me? 163 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,560 Who wants to come and draw pictures with me? 164 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,320 I'm an artist. I'm here for like 1 day, who 165 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,200 wants to come and draw? And so I did text her, but I had 166 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,080 to work so I didn't go, I didn't meet her. 167 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,320 The next year she came back and I remembered, oh, that's the 168 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,320 lady who was drawing last year. So I got in touch with her and I 169 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,120 said, yeah, I can have coffee with you this time. 170 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,920 So I met and had coffee and now we exchange messages back and 171 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,160 forth. And she's actually coming to him 172 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,680 AG next week, this week and I'm going to meet her again this 173 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:39,520 week. So we've been in touch just 174 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,320 online for a few years. But it's, it's reciprocal. 175 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Like she sends a message, I send a message. 176 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,440 Or like she posts a picture of her painting and I comment, you 177 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,280 know, and then she texts back, you know, it's 5050 now, 50. 50 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Yeah, OK, so you and. We are good friends, actually. 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Yeah, we don't talk about personal things, but we're, you 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,600 know, we're good friends with art, about art. 181 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,360 OK. Art and travel. 182 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,800 OK, that's that's good. And I've still wondered if I 183 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:16,560 need to make an effort to send him message to a new person who 184 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:21,440 I wanna become a friend with. How often do I need to send a 185 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 message to this person? Not that often. 186 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Okay, not that often. Just sometimes. 187 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,560 Yeah, just sometimes, okay. Yeah, I also look back who has 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,200 become good friend with me. Okay, what did you find out? 189 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,040 Those people have a unique opinion. 190 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,120 OK. And they have unique 191 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,400 personality. OK. 192 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,720 And also their lifestyle isn't normal. 193 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,480 OK, Like they have a kind of a unique pattern of living or like 194 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,320 what they're doing for work? Right, right. 195 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,520 Yes, that makes me wanted to become friends with them. 196 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,120 OK, OK. But again, it's it's I'm not 197 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,600 good at make using social media so it's I miss message 198 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,160 sometimes. Yeah. 199 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,440 I mean, I think for me, like, social media is a big key 200 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,520 because even like I mentioned at the beginning, I have a lot of 201 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,960 friends from the days when I was doing study abroad here in 202 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,600 Japan. And at the time we did not have 203 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:29,760 e-mail or social media, but we managed to keep in touch because 204 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 like after I went back to America and after, you know, 205 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 they came back to Japan and stayed in Japan, then I came to 206 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,760 Japan again. And then while I was here the 207 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,600 second time, then kind of Facebook took off and then later 208 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,000 Instagram. But I was able to search for 209 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,160 them and find them on Facebook. And like not everyone, but I 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:59,720 think of the group that we used to hang out with, 12312345 of 211 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,520 the five people, six people that I7 people that I used to hang 212 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:09,760 out with a lot, eight people I'm still in touch with, like many 213 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,080 of them either through social media or sometimes *** Joe even. 214 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,160 The Yeah. Because they're Japanese. 215 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,800 So we do, we do *** Joe. I wouldn't send a *** Joe to 216 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,920 someone in Italy or Spain, but you could, you know you could. 217 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,440 That's why you have a many friends and any everywhere. 218 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,600 Yeah, but like I actually, I actively searched for them on 219 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,200 Facebook, you know, years later after we'd finished studying 220 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,200 together. So I think nowadays Instagram 221 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,520 and Line, but Line is not used outside of Japan and Korea. 222 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,200 So if if Yudison is going to Spain and Italy. 223 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Maybe. Maybe Instagram or what's up, I 224 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,720 don't know what I don't know what's popular in Spain and 225 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Italy? They might have something else, 226 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,280 right? Yes, you'd have to research, but 227 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,920 worldwide maybe Instagram is popular on Facebook. 228 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Yeah, yes. By the way, if you haven't 229 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,960 checked it out yet, we've got our Offshore Crosstalk website 230 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,440 up and running. That's right, and you guys can 231 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,520 vote for future episodes and send in specific request topics 232 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,200 from there, just like you Desan did. 233 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:24,040 You can check it out right now at podcast dot crosstalk dot me. 234 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Jumping back to our topic, I know you were in Australia for a 235 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:34,000 while doing working holiday and you know, traveling around. 236 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Did you meet any people in Australia that you kept in touch 237 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,960 with for a long time besides the guy from Germany? 238 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Oh, OK, my good friend from Australia is probably a former 239 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,720 boss that I worked with. OK, maybe I have mentioned this 240 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,560 person a few times in the past episodes. 241 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,560 OK, But I have messaged her last winter. 242 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,520 I asked her what? Oh, what's up? 243 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:05,080 And then, oh, I moved to Melbourne from Sydney and. 244 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,320 Oh, OK. Yeah. 245 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,800 OK. So did she move her her business 246 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,360 also? No, she she's just a regular 247 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,240 worker. Oh. 248 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,040 OK, OK. And then maybe she quit her 249 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,080 workplace OK and I moved to male volume OK and then maybe she got 250 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,880 a job there. She also said I'm busy for 251 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,880 raising my children. And then she have also mentioned 252 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,840 I I have a dream, I wanna start my own cooking studio or. 253 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Something that's cool. That's cool. 254 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Yeah, it's. Nice. 255 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Yeah, that's nice. So you do have friends and that 256 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,160 was how long ago? How long did you try? 257 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,960 More than 10 years ago. Oh, wow. 258 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,480 OK. And you're still in touch. 259 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,640 That's nice. Yeah, just, you know, a little 260 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,440 bit. OK. 261 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:55,680 You know, I have a a few friends from overseas. 262 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,840 OK, So what do you guys keep in touch with? 263 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Like what medium? So like Facebook? 264 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Oh yeah, face Facebook. Yes, Facebook. 265 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,320 OK, most of them use still use Facebook. 266 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,480 OK, probably I don't, you know, people are fading away from, you 267 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,240 know, this Facebook. But yeah. 268 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Actually, yeah, they are. But still, you know these people 269 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,400 are using Facebook, at least messengers. 270 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, that's true. 271 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Like I have some friends who are not on Facebook but they still 272 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,040 use Messenger which is good if you want to keep in touch with 273 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,560 you, right? Since we got out this topic and 274 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,320 I kind of start thinking about well, maybe it's time to start 275 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,520 restart using Facebook. You know, it might be a good 276 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,520 chance to make new friends. Yeah, yeah, for. 277 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Sure, yeah. For sure and polishing our 278 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,160 friendship on the online. Yeah, definitely. 279 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,920 Why not? Maybe. 280 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,000 Yeah, Yeah. How about you? 281 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Yeah, I mean, I look, I look at Facebook everyday a little bit, 282 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,440 but I'm not on it that much. But yeah, I am on, I am on 283 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,440 Messenger. But the good thing about 284 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,760 Facebook is that, you know, people post photos on there of 285 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,800 their families or, you know, whatever they're doing. 286 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,880 So it's a good way to kind of keep in touch without having 287 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,560 like the stress of having to write a big letter. 288 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,280 You can just kind of write a little comment or, you know, E 289 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 nay or whatever. And that counts. 290 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,560 That counts as I know what that person's doing and I'm keeping 291 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,360 in touch. Right. 292 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Yeah. And they can see that you saw. 293 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Yes, yes, yes. The one of one of the reason 294 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,080 that I stopped using Facebook is because people posting like 295 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,920 their lifestyle. That's OK. 296 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,520 And like, no, it what used to be like, oh, I made a company. 297 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,480 And then we the other person say, oh, we married and we have 298 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,240 this fancy house and, you know, and I've got a car. 299 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 And then some of some of the people say they go, oh, I did 300 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,480 this. I did that, you know. 301 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Oh yeah. I mean, that's all social media, 302 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,120 that's Instagram. Also, it's not just Facebook. 303 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,920 It's. Overwhelming. 304 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Yeah. I think you just think too much 305 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,599 about it. I don't think about it that 306 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:06,240 much. Just like oh, pretty picture, 307 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,680 nice, nice, nice, nice. Keep going, keep scrolling. 308 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,440 Oh, cute, cute, nice. I don't think about it that much 309 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,240 because because like, I think we talked about this a while back, 310 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,240 but when you look at social media, people only post good 311 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,319 things. Of course, you know, everyone 312 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:23,599 has hardship. Everyone has really bad times. 313 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:26,119 They're not going to post that. They're not going to post about 314 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,240 that. They're only going to post like, 315 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 oh, look at this pretty flower. Oh, look what? 316 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,840 Look at, you know, look at this happy thing I did. 317 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,520 They're not going to post the depressing stuff. 318 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,040 So I don't think about it in their way. 319 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Yeah, OK. Don't let it bother you. 320 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,040 OK, I won't be so negative about it. 321 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,880 Yeah, that's my advice and I'll. I'll be careful about it. 322 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Yeah. OK. 323 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:54,240 And so actually I have a a few overseas friends in Germany, 324 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:01,840 also Myanmar, so Europe, Asia. Completed next is. 325 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,800 Next is America or. The America's. 326 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,800 America's or. Canada, including Canada or 327 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:14,200 Mexico, OK, OK. And you know, Africa, Yes, OK. 328 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,360 Yes. Well, you have to go there. 329 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:20,240 You know, you have to go there or they have to come here and 330 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,920 you may have to meet in Japan. True. 331 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,680 That's very true. Yeah. 332 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,200 Yeah. So my my dream. 333 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,040 My tiny small dream. To get a friend from each 334 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,680 continent, Right. OK. 335 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,360 Right. Well, I have friends. 336 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:34,720 I have friends that I used to work with. 337 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,080 We weren't like, I wasn't traveling, but I have friends in 338 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,680 Australia and New Zealand. I used to have African friends. 339 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,720 We kind of lost touch, actually. I used to have a pen pal in 340 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,000 Africa. Pimple. 341 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,800 Yeah, so. You write, you just write 342 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,600 letters. Never met him in in person 343 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,480 though. Yes. 344 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,280 Europe. I don't have any friends in 345 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,400 Europe anymore. I need to go to Europe. 346 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,400 Yeah. Maybe I should go with you, 347 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,000 Dusan to Italy. That sounds good. 348 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,920 Yeah, I'll go. I'll go find us some friends. 349 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,040 Yeah. Yeah, America, Canada, I have a 350 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,040 lot of friends. South America, No. 351 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,320 I have friends from there, but they're here in Japan, so that 352 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,800 doesn't count, right? Yeah. 353 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Yeah, Hawaii. I have friends in Hawaii. 354 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,560 OK. Alaska. 355 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,000 Yeah, you have many friends around the world. 356 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,360 Yeah. I'm missing Africa too, and 357 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,960 missing what did I say? South America and Europe? 358 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Western Europe. Yeah. 359 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,840 So like you said, it's, you know, if you live farther away 360 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:46,400 from your friends, it's really difficult to keep keep in touch 361 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,240 and maintain your friendship, right? 362 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Yeah. And that's natural things. 363 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,480 You can avoid it. True, right? 364 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,320 True, so keep refreshing your friends list that's. 365 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,400 Yeah, I mean it, it entails like you having to go out and do 366 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,280 stuff and meet people or travel. And I don't have the time at the 367 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,280 moment to like travel to Africa or South America. 368 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,520 But yeah, I mean, if if I meet people here and who are 369 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,320 traveling, yeah, definitely, definitely. 370 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,480 Yes, yes. Do you have any travel plans by 371 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,040 the way? Oh, don't ask me about that. 372 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,200 OK, I won't cut. Because I don't. 373 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:29,880 Because I don't have one. Yeah. 374 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,840 OK, OK. Yeah, I kind of promised going 375 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Egypt with my friends in Osaka. OK, Yeah. 376 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,120 Did you OK, I did. When are you guys going? 377 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:41,720 I. Don't know. 378 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Maybe next, next year, OK, Next next year, OK, I don't know. 379 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,080 I'm going to Yokohama. I'm going to Yokohama. 380 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,480 You can go to Egypt. I need to save money, a lot of 381 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,880 money though. Yeah, you do. 382 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,080 And I need, I need to succeed in my business. 383 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,640 Yeah, first, anyway, yeah, we don't know about future, but you 384 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,760 know, keep trying and keep pushing yourself and keep open 385 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,960 your mind. Yeah, and and don't be afraid to 386 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840 talk to people you know, if they don't want to talk, they'll 387 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,920 they'll ignore you, they'll let you know. 388 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,680 But you have to put yourself out there. 389 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,640 You have to not be shy, you have to be outgoing. 390 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,560 Right. Yeah. 391 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,520 OK. I think that's all for today's 392 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,320 episode. All right, sounds good. 393 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,480 We'd love to hear from you guys. 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