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Hello, welcome back to Crosstalk
Podcast. 

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I'm Tommy. 
Hi, I'm Andrea. 

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Anderson, how well do you 
usually sleep on tonight? 

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Ah, that's a difficult question.
I usually sleep pretty deeply, 

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like quality wise I think it's 
OK, but I don't. 

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I don't sleep for a long time. 
I sleep for a pretty short time.

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How about you? 
I sleep instantly at night. 

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Yeah, I. 
Fall asleep pretty fast, yes. 

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Yeah. 
Do you sleep for a long time? 

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I sleep a lot. 
I mean, I sleep longer than you.

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Well, everyone sleeps longer 
than me probably. 

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But yesterday I bought her PC 
game. 

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Uh. 
Oh yeah, I know what that means.

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What do you know? 
That means you stayed up late 

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playing games and you didn't 
sleep enough. 

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Right. 
I knew it. 

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I'm OK now because I'm drinking 
a red pool. 

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Right now you seem you sleep 
very quiet today. 

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That's why I don't. 
Know I feel energetic. 

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OK, can I ask what game you 
bought last night? 

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I think you don't know this 
game, but I bought Slay the 

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Aspire too. 
OK, No, I don't know that. 

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It's a kind of a card game and 
it's kind of it's, it's a 

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popular game right now. 
OK, so can we ask what time did 

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you stay up until last night? 
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. 

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Let's take a bet. 
Let's take a bet. 

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I'm going to bet 4:00 AM. 4:00 
AM Yeah, very close. 

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Oh, very, very close. 345. 
No 5 in five in the morning. 

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Oh. 
My God, Oh my God. 

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You know I started this game 
around 12:00. 

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Oh my God. 
And I was thinking maybe I can 

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play a few round, OK, and then 
staying up late until, you know,

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five in 5:00 AM. 
So this game must be kind of 

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exciting if you stayed up 
playing for five hours. 

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Yeah, it's it's fun. 
Also it's maybe everybody says 

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this type of game or eating up 
your time. 

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OK. 
Yeah, I can see that, yes. 

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And I did. 
I was like, what? 

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Oh wow. 
OK, OK, well I'm glad you had 

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fun at least. 
Yeah, This is why I didn't want 

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to buy video games I see for 
many, many months, many, many 

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years. 
Did you have a same kind of 

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experience before? 
Not with games, but with 

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Netflix. 
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If there was a series I was 
watching, but it's not that I 

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stayed up watching Netflix the 
whole time. 

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I probably recently I've I've 
been feeling very tired recently

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actually. 
So when I go home, I get home 

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like around 993010 PM and I'll 
eat dinner really fast. 

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And I think OK, I'll take a rest
on the sofa for like 30 minutes 

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and I fall asleep on the sofa. 
And then I wake up at like 2:00 

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AM or 3:00 AM and I'll take a 
fast bath or a shower, and then 

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I'll go back to sleep from like 
4:00 AM. 

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So technically I was not awake 
until 4:00 AM because I slept 

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for three hours on the sofa or 
whatever. 

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But yeah, like, there have been 
a few nights last week when I 

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didn't sleep all the way through
the night when I woke up halfway

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through. 
Three, OK. 

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Because I slept on the sofa. 
Uh huh. 

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Don't you feel tired the next 
day I. 

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Mean I feel OK if I can sleep 
more than five hours. 

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If in total I usually feel OK, 
yeah, a little tired A. 

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Little shorter sleep hours. 
Yeah, I'm a little sleepy today 

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because I only slept for like 4 
1/2 hours last night. 

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OK, that's quite short. 
Yeah, it was a little short. 

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OK, so we want to talk about 
this sleep hacks, yes? 

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Today, sleep hacks. 
So usually I use Netflix when I 

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go to bed and fall asleep in in 
5 minutes or so. 

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OK, so what's your technique to 
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Asleep, I don't really have any 
techniques. 

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I just, I like a really warm 
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So I'll turn on my electric 
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minutes before I go to bed. 
And then when I get into bed 

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it'll be really nice and warm 
and toasty and it's very easy to

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fall asleep. 
I just turn the lights out and 

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and I sleep with my cats. 
I have two cats that I sleep 

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with and I kind of play with my 
cats for a few minutes and make 

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sure they're comfortable and 
then I just turn the lights out.

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I usually fall asleep very 
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Oh yeah, yeah. 
So don't you watch any TV movies

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while you were in the bed? 
No, never while I'm in the bed 

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until like right up until I go 
to bed. 

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Yes, I'll be watching Netflix. 
And you know, they say that you 

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should not watch TV or you 
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for about an hour before you go 
to bed. 

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But I do. 
I look at my phone like right up

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until I'm in bed. 
But I do not look at my phone 

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while I'm in bed. 
Never. 

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Never. 
Hardly ever. 

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Maybe some people use Netflix 
but not watching this screen 

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right? 
Some people put phone aside of 

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your bed and just listen Netflix
or podcast. 

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I hope they don't fall asleep to
our podcast. 

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I think some people do. 
That'd be OK. 

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Or listening musics. 
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Or listening. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. 

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Yeah, I don't. 
But yeah, a lot of people do 

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listen to music. 
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Like like relaxing music. 
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. 

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I have talked with this with 
someone before. 

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This person use ASMR while you 
are while they are sleeping. 

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OK, ASMR. 
Do you guys know what ASMR is? 

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Yeah, it's basically just like 
relaxing sounds. 

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Yeah, I thought so, but this 
person used the videos. 

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That woman eating food? 
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So that they are this person 
enjoying the sound of eating. 

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OK, that's not my thing, but OK.
Me neither. 

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I thought about. 
I was like, how can you sleep 

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with someone? 
Eating food next to you. 

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OK, so we want to talk about 

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some other sleeping habit around
the world. 

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OK, from Scandinavia, sleeping 
outside in the freezing cold for

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better rest. 
That sounds that sounds kind of 

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painful. 
I don't like cold weather so I 

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don't think I would like to do 
this do. 

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You use the heater while you 
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A little bit. 
I have a air conditioner in the 

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room that I use, but mostly it's
for my cats. 

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Not not so much for me, but 
definitely in the winter. 

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I have a electric blanket. 
Yes. 

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Oh, it's an electric blanket 
too. 

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Yeah. 
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like I have, I don't know what 
it's called. 

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It's like a neck warmer thing 
that you put in the microwave. 

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It has beads and azuki beans 
inside that keeps your neck 

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warm. 
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microwave and then you wrap it 
around your neck with when you 

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sleep. 
Keeps your neck warm. 

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And I've got one for my eyes, 
and I've got one for my stomach,

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too. 
Is that some kind of a UTAM 

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pole? 
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except it's not water. 
It's just the beads inside that 

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you heat up. 
It's very nice. 

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They're very nice. 
Never heard of it. 

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Yeah, the eye mask is especially
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at any pharmacy. 
Very good. 

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Sounds nice. 
I I don't use any of that and I 

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like sleeping in a cold room. 
Actually, yeah, they say that if

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you sleep in a cold room, you 
get better sleep. 

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Yeah, so from the other country,
Guatemala. 

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Yeah, of whispering your stress 
to tiny dolls under your pillow 

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so you can sleep. 
I've heard of this. 

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These are called worry dolls. 
Really. 

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Yeah. 
Like the doll kind of absorbs 

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your stress I think, and then 
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can sleep better. 
Oh. 

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OK I wonder is Japan has a 
similar culture I. 

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Don't know, I've never heard of 
anything like that. 

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No, in Japan. 
How about AUS? 

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Is there any particular way of 
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I think only Native Americans 
have what we call dream 

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catchers, and these are popular 
in Japan too. 

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I think we talked about these 
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sold as like decorations. 
But basically it looks like a 

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web of woven string with 
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And you traditionally these are 
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right? 
Deer. 

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Deer. 
What is suji in English? 

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I can't think of the word. 
I know what it is tendon. 

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Tendon. 
Yeah, it's like tendons from a 

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deer's leg that is made into 
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this. 
And then you hang it above your 

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head when you sleep and it 
catches all the bad dreams 

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before the bedrooms get into 
your head. 

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But this is only native people. 
This is not everyone. 

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OK, have you ever used this 
dream catcher I. 

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Have and it really worked. 
Actually, when I had one in 

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America, I never had a bad 
dream. 

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Oh yeah, yeah. 
They're very nice. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. 
Speaking of a bad dream, I had a

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bizarre dream last night. 
Oh, really? 

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Actually, a few nights ago I was
selling something in Kyoto. 

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Oh. 
You know, I don't know why 

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Kyoto. 
It felt like a Kyoto OK from 

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scenery. 
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And I've and I was probably 
doing tension funin or 

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something, OK, but I didn't have
any family to leave behind. 

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Right, because you're single. 
Right, right. 

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So I had no idea what was 
happening in that dream. 

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That's weird. 
Yeah, But I felt like I'm doing 

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this. 
That's very weird. 

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Yeah, that's very weird. 
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I had a weird dream the other 
day too but I didn't remember 

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what it was. 
But I do remember waking up 

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thinking oh that's really weird.
I don't. 

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I don't often remember my dreams
though. 

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Me neither. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, maybe some people need our
dream catcher. 

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Yeah. 
I think maybe we should get 

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some. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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Well, you know, we talked at the
beginning of the episode about 

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how, like, I don't sleep very 
long and you do sleep. 

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But last night you didn't, you 
didn't sleep very long. 

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If you guys remember, like one 
of my New Year's resolutions 

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this year was to get better 
sleep, to fix my sleep schedule.

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But like I feel like my sleep 
schedule is getting worse 

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actually. 
Mine too, actually. 

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Yeah, I don't. 
I think for me like it's an age 

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fact factor also like I feel 
really tired recently. 

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Maybe. 
It's either age or season or 

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something. 
Maybe it's seasonal thing. 

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Yeah, maybe. 
Yeah, we can't control that. 

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Yeah, I just feel so tired, like
when I get home right away, 

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Yeah, but I still have a lot of 
work to do and I still have 

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stuff I need to get done before 
I go to sleep. 

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But I can't not sleep. 
I feel like my schedule is 

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getting really bad. 
So I'm going to try in the next 

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couple of weeks to be better 
about getting my schedule back 

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on track. 
The solutions definitely go to 

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bed earlier Yeah, but what what 
else we can do So if you guys 

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had any technique or tips to get
better sleep, please comment on 

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message to our website Yeah, 

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through website. 
Yeah, yeah, you can. 

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