Hey everybody, this is Pastor John Ewart from Inglewood
Baptist Church in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina.
Thank you so much for tuning into our podcast.
You're going to hear from God today as we share from his word
about important issues facing your life that can guide you
according to the Bible. Well, thank you for joining us
for this session. Those of you who are here face
to face, those of you who are listening online to this later,
I continue to hear those who do that and appreciate that we do
that on purpose. Also for people who are serving
in other ministries during these live sessions.
As you can imagine, we have, as Jean said, we'll have 250 or
whoever, whatever amount in here, but you got to recognize
we'll have almost that many and other places in the building at
the same time. And so when I first got here, I
said I wanted to see about 500 people.
On Wednesday night, somebody laughed at me out loud.
I won't point them out there in the room right now, but I won't
point them out. And, and yet I think that we're
about, you know, God's, that's God's just getting started.
So we're going to see as we keep going, I want to apologize.
You have 4 pages of notes for this session.
I started off with 11 and I still have 11.
And so I tried to get it down to four.
So that would be simpler for them to print them off.
As you can tell, the margins get smaller and smaller.
But this session is going to be woefully incomplete even with
this much material, which is a great thing because of the
subject matter. We probably should have just
done a 10 part series on the on heaven itself and maybe we'll
come back and do that again. We're going to move forward in
our conversation of heaven, hell and the hereafter.
But, but I'm, I, I just want to apologize up front for the
entire series that we're going to try to do now in the next
hour or so. So hang in there.
You know, throughout history and throughout the Scriptures, we
read of great men and, and great women of God who, who gave
evidence that they were, that they were thinking of eternity,
that eternity was in their hearts.
One of their great passages is Hebrews 11, and it says these
all died in faith, not having received the things promised,
but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having
acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the
earth. For people who speak thus make
it clear that that they're seeking a homeland, and if
they've been thinking of that land from which they had gone
out, they would have had the opportunity to return.
But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a
heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to
be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.
So you see this great passage in Hebrews 11 of these Old
Testament heroes who were still saved by faith, by grace.
And and yet we're longing. We're longing for a better
country. There are songs written about
that as well. And so unfortunately for some,
hopefully not you here at this session.
You know, sometimes I feel like I'm preaching to the literally
to the choir a little bit on Wednesday in our Wednesday
sessions. But there are people that we
know maybe at times you're guilty of this, who are who, who
love it so much right here or have it so good right here, that
they don't often really think about home.
They don't really long for heaven.
I was griping one day, which is not an uncommon thing, but I was
griping one day about some contemporary Christian music,
about how I was not hearing songs about people wanting to go
home anymore. And that's changed some in
recent years. I've appreciated the fact that
that has cycled back a little bit sometimes.
Sometimes even Christian music can be extremely self-centered
to where it's just about me and it's about what I'm going to,
what I need and what I'm going to get.
And it's really not about glorifying God.
And so I, I, I, I love to sing about home and we need to learn
to set our affections on this. CS Lewis, who I've quoted more
in, in the last few months here at Inglewood than my entire
life. For some reason, if you read
history, you will find that the Christians who did most for the
present world were just those who thought most of the next.
It's because Christians have largely ceased to think of the
other world that they have become so ineffective in this
one. And so you can tell what we're
living for at times. Where is our focus?
And so we're just going to look at a couple of basic categories.
This may get a little redundant at times, but I just want us to,
I just want us to enjoy, frankly, the truth about where
those of us who know Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior
are going to spend eternity. And so my prayer is that this
session will be encouraging for some.
It might be challenging if you don't know Christ as your Lord
and Savior, but but we we're going to talk about a few just
basic things. So where is heaven?
You know, we have such a a limited perspective at times, I
think it boggles the mind that the same Christ who created the
universe is the one who's also preparing a place for you.
And we'll come back to that passage later.
You got to kind of consider this, the magnitude of what we
would call the stellar universe, the physical universe we live
in. We're going to break down the
different kinds of heavens here in a little while, but only
about 4000 stars are visible to the human eye without the help
of a telescope. And that would be obviously out
in the woods someplace without, without light pollution cutting
that out from a city or something.
But with the telescopes that they have now, some of them
actually in space, scientists estimate that there are about or
over 10 to the 25th. So think of 10 with 25 zeros
after that. That ends up being billions of
millions somehow. I'm not sure what the, what the
quadzillion quabillion name for that is, but it's like 1,000,000
billion billion, something like that.
And they keep discovering more. In fact, I, I read articles.
I, I read scientific articles almost, well, probably almost
every day. In fact, I'll comment him to
Teresa sometimes. I'm always interested in the
latest things science found that they thought they already knew,
but realized they didn't, and now they've learned something
new. Science is a very fluid, a fluid
industry that often our world doesn't accept.
They think it's static, but it's not.
And so they're always learning something new.
But but that number of stars is, is the estimated number of
grains of sand on the earth. Now, don't ask me who counted
those. I don't know who counted those.
I'm not sure how you make that. I guess you take one shovel and
you multiply it. I don't know.
Our solar system has a diameter of 700 light minutes.
Now you got to think about the difference between the light
minutes. You probably heard the more
familiar term of light years. How far does light travel in a
certain time period? And so that that alone is 8
billion miles. Our Galaxy has a diameter of
about 100,000 light years, and our Galaxy is one of billions so
far. Beyond this intergalactic space
lies something else. It's different.
It's a different dimension and we need to talk about it.
The Old Testament talked to some about it in Deuteronomy 10.
It says, behold, to the Lord your God belong heaven and the
heaven of heavens, the earth with all that is in it.
So all of this, all of this space, all of this belongs to
him. A simple question, is heaven up?
Because sometimes we think that way, don't we?
Jesus ascended, we think that way the so heaven has to be up
here somewhere, right? And for our humanity, for our
human minds and our human ability to understand.
And I'm going to have to talk about that phrase over and over
and over and over and over again when we talk about heaven
because the the descriptions that we're going to get into are
put into human vocabulary because that's the only way we
know how to understand them. But our human vocabulary really
isn't good enough to carry the weight of the actual meaning.
So as heaven up well, they're even verses that make you think
so and it sounds as Psalm 53 two says God looks down from heaven
on the children of man to see if there are any who understand who
seek after God. But you got to understand that
because of what heaven really is.
And this really does go back to our and this is one of the
reasons we did it a session of 14 ago or whenever it was when I
talked about the eternality of God.
You've got to remember God transcends time and space and so
does heaven. Heaven is a different dimension.
It's a whole different way of existing and we we're going to
have to try to wrap our heads, which is hard to do.
So up and down really lose meaning when you realize that
heaven is not bound by time and space.
It's beyond that. Second Corinthians 12 says this.
I know a man in Christ who 14 years ago was caught up to the
3rd heaven, whether in the body or out of the body, I do not
know. God knows and he heard things
that cannot be told, which man may not utter.
I find this passage is interesting because right now my
personal Bible study in the mornings, I've shared this with
you. I'm in the book and almost
finishing up the book of Numbers and also in the Book of
Revelation. And so this passage, even though
it's not talking about John, it, it's interesting because it's
almost like what John has has experienced in Patmos as he's
having this vision of the revelation.
But the Bible speaks of three different kinds of heaven.
And so just to be clear here, 1 is atmospheric, 1 is the
physical that we see the the the the atmospheric right around us.
In other words, the sky. Job 35 says, look at the heavens
and sea and behold the clouds which are higher than you.
Or Psalm 147. He covers the heavens with
clouds. He prepares rain for the earth.
He makes grass grow on the hills.
And so sometimes, especially in the Old Testament, the word for
heaven would refer to the the atmosphere, the sky, just not
that far away from us. In other words, the the things
right around us. You also see a stellar or
planetary heaven, which is what we were talking about a minute
ago. And we go back to Genesis and
remind ourselves of of how that came into being in Genesis 1.
And God said, let there be lights in the expanse of the
heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for
signs and for seasons and for days and years, and let them be
lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the
earth. And it was so.
And God made 2 great lights, the greater light to rule the day,
and the lesser light to rule the night and the stars.
And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on
the earth, to rule over the day and over the night, and to
separate the light from the darkness.
And God saw that it was good. And so we see this
interplanetary this the solar systems, the galaxies, the
stars. And yet both of these first two
kinds of heavens have been negatively impacted by sin.
They're part of the created order.
They're part of creation and, and is it?
They've been affected by sin. And one day those two types of
heavens will no longer exist. They're going to go away.
In fact, Peter writes about this in a pretty vivid passage.
People, like some scholars I know, like to argue about what
Peter means. I like to take the Bible at its
clearest meaning. And I think Peter meant what he
wrote. And it says this.
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the
heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies
will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that
are done on it will be exposed. So one day all of this will be
gone. At the end of time, the creation
as we know it will burn up, it'll be dissolved, it'll be
done away with. And so both the sky and and even
the stars, the moon, the sun, the solar systems, wherever our
spaceships try to go. My grandfather was just
convinced it was Arizona or New Mexico till the day he died.
I mean, till the, I mean, strongly felt.
So, yeah, it's just a movie set, you know, out there in New
Mexico. Simple.
I've been there. I know where that was.
Those guys are good actors, you know, and that that golf ball on
a string going real slow, That was pretty creative.
But there's a third kind. That's what we're going to talk
about tonight. The heavenly heaven, the 3rd
heaven, God's perfect and unstained dwelling place that
remains untouched by sin. It's not affected by the fall.
It's not affected by the created order.
It's not affected and will exist forever.
It will not go away. And it's interesting because so
then that makes me think so OK, so how does this, how does this
whole thing work? So Jesus is on the cross in Luke
chapter 23 and he says to the thief next to him today you'll
be with me in paradise. Now, I don't believe and I don't
see any indication that he was transported by superhuman speed
to to a place out there beyond the farthest Galaxy.
I don't think that's how it worked.
I think he slipped immediately into another dimension and was
immediately into the presence of the Lord.
And so heaven exists beyond time.
So traveling a zillion mph might put you on the edge of the
stellar universe. But to take a step into heaven
requires something different, something else.
So why does heaven exist? Well, it's the primarily the
dwelling place of God in a sense he's more than that, but it is
that and I'll explain. Isaiah 63 says look down from
heaven. See again, we see this
directional idea because that's the only thing we can
understand. Look down from heaven and see
from your holy and beautiful habitation where where are your
zeal and your might, the stirring of your inner parts and
your compassion or held back for me.
Or go to the Gospels Matthew 5 as Jesus is working through the
Sermon on the Mount ideas in the same way, let your light shine
before others so that they may see your good works and give
glory to your Father who is in heaven.
Or Matthew 69 which you know, you just may know the Luke
version of it. But in Matthew 69, we pray then
like this, our Father where in heaven hallowed be your name and
many, many, many more verses obviously would point to his
location and his habitation of heaven.
So, but we also have to remember, and this is the other
part of this, that even though heaven is the dwelling place of
God, it's not the only place of not the only dwelling place of
God. God is omnipresent.
So there is no place you can go where God is not So it in other
words, there there is no realm where his presence does not
reach. In fact, First Kings 8 says
this, but will God indeed dwell on the earth?
Behold, heaven in the highest heaven cannot contain you.
How much less this house that I've built.
And so there's a recognition that God's not contained in a
Tabernacle or a temple. He's not contained in a church
building. He's not contained in a in a
singular physical location for sure, but he also isn't simply
contained in heaven. Psalm 139, verse 8 says if I
ascend to heaven, you are there. If I make my bed and Sheol,
you're there. So there's nowhere to escape
him. Psalm 139 goes on.
There's no place to escape the presence of God.
He's everywhere. And to say that God dwells in
heaven is true, but it's not to say that heaven contains all
there is of God. That is not true.
God is bigger and transcends that.
So he, he's, he's uniquely in heaven.
In other words, heaven is uniquely his home.
It's his. It's his center of operation, so
to speak. It's headquarters and other
beings live there that we'll talk more about later, but other
others are there, and it's a place where his throne resides,
and it's where the most perfect worship of him will occur.
And one day we'll get to join that.
I thought some of you would appreciate the fact that I'm
going to read from Ezekiel. I know some of you love Ezekiel.
And it says, and above the expanse over their heads there
was a likeness of a throne, an appearance like sapphire.
And seated above the lightness of a throne was a lightness with
a human appearance. And upward from what had the
appearance of his waist, I saw, as it were gleaming metal, like
the appearance of fire enclosed all around.
And downward from what had the appearance of his waist, I saw,
as it were the appearance of fire.
And there was brightness around him, like the appearance of the
bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the
appearance of the brightness all around.
Such was the appearance of the lightness of the glory of the
Lord. And when I saw it, I fell on my
face, and I heard the voice of one speaking.
You layer this in with some of the descriptions you'll see,
which we'll talk about in a moment of the Book of
Revelation. And you'll see, you'll see this,
this human language trying to describe something that's
indescribable, trying to, to, to associate it with, with precious
stones or metals or fire, when when in fact it's more than
that. It's better than that.
But that's all we got. That's all we can think of.
That's the only way we could capture it, the only way we
could imagine it in his glory. So it is the dwelling place of
God. It's also the dwelling place of
the godly, which is great news for us.
Amen. If you are one.
And so Philippians 320 says our citizenship is where, Yeah, our
citizenship is in heaven. We're not home here.
And that, that's something that's hard to figure out day by
day by day, I think for folks, because we're so attached to
this. We're so attached to all of
this. But this is not us, and this is
not home. We're pilgrims.
We're looking and longing for a better country, longing to go
home. But in the meantime, we have
work to do, so our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we
await A Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ or Ephesians 2.
But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with
which he loved us even when we were dead in our trespasses,
made us alive together with Christ.
By grace you have been saved. And and then listen to this, not
the next part. And raised up and raised us up
with him and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ
Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the
immeasurable riches of his grace and kindness toward us in Christ
Jesus, that we would actually be seated with him in the heavenly
places. Quite a, quite an image.
Now, one of the things you ought to note, and we could read more
passages, but in these two passages, if you'll note, the
verbs are in the present tense, many more passages like that
that are written in the present tense.
In other words, this isn't just something that's going to happen
later. The eternity isn't just
something that's going to happen later.
It's like we're already there. We're already eternal, we're
already immortal. We're already, we're already a
part of this, even though we haven't gone there yet.
It's a reality. These present tense verbs in the
New Testament are very important.
One of the most, the simplest verb, the simplest verse I could
think of as John 647. It's the most simple gospel
verse I think there is in the New Testament, John 647.
Whosoever believes has eternal life, present tense, you have it
now, you have it now. And so the reason I say that so
strongly is the fact that it needs to motivate me to, to at
times to not be so caught up in this and to recognize there's
something so much more, something so much better.
It can help me to endure. It can help me to work through
what this is throwing at me because there's more, there's
more coming. But we, we're supposed to be
here. We're supposed to worship, we're
supposed to make disciples, we're supposed to share the
gospel. There's things we got to do here
before that. But because of that, all right,
all right, we can deal with this because I'm looking at that,
because I know where this ends. I know how this ends.
My eternal life in Christ began the moment he saved me.
And I just spent a piece, I mean, a fraction.
And when you think about eternity, it's it's a miniscule
fraction of my existence on this planet on assignment for him.
But the real life happens later. So we should be preoccupied with
heavenly things, not to the point of being useless.
Paul had to kind of get on to the Thessalonians about that.
But we we have to, we have to recognize we have work to do,
but we also need to think about what can we take a take with us
when we go home. That's my pre.
What can I take with me there? Who can I take with me there to
join me in that incredible experience?
So we're going to spend the most of our time on this question.
What's heaven like? I struggled with this, you know,
as I was working through this and, and working through so many
passages and so many thoughts and so many things we could do.
And we're going to come back and revisit some of these pieces
down the road. But, but, but here's just an
overview. So heaven itself, the word is
always synonymous with, with things like beauty or comfort or
peace or, or, or satisfaction or contentment.
It, it can be an adjective where it's describing something
wonderful, something incredible. It can be a noun as this real
place where the people of God go and dwell with God, right.
So, but, but as I was saying earlier, words cannot express
what it's like adequately. And so be careful when you're
reading these descriptions. I mean, I, we, we'll even make
jokes about streets of gold and, and maybe they are gold, but I
really think the way it's written and the way you see it
written, it's more than gold. That's just the closest thing we
can think of. It's the only thing that our
human minds can grab a hold of to identify.
And so verses again, are forced into this human vocabulary doing
its best to describe something that's beyond humanity.
So things are like these things, but we also know they're
different and better. So it's hard for us in our
limited thoughts, but Scripture repeatedly reminds us that
heaven is a realm of unsurpassed everything, bliss, delight,
peace. The Hebrew word that's used most
often is a Hebrew word, shamayam.
Shamayam with an M on the end. Sorry.
And and it's plural, so it literally means the heights.
It means the highest of the heights in a sense, the Greek
word oranis, where you get the planetary name Uranus, That's
where that planet name comes from, from this Greek word
oranis. And, and that means raised up,
it means lofty. And so these are the words that
are often used for heaven. I, I got out my, my yardstick
and we did a little measuring. The New Jerusalem, the capital
of where we're going to end up in the new heaven, the new earth
is going to be 1500 miles by 1500 miles by 1500 miles.
Let me read that for you in Revelation 21.
And then you got to get out your ruler and do some translation.
And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to
measure. So you got to get your solid
gold yardstick to measure the city and its gates and walls.
The city lies Foursquare. Anybody heard of Foursquare
churches? Yeah.
See, this is where this word comes from.
This is where this idea comes from, The idea of some kind of
Foursquare church, regardless of its Baptist or Baptist,
Foursquare Baptist or Foursquare other things, Pentecostals,
there's Foursquare several things.
And, and the idea of a Foursquare church, they're
stealing the idea of this is like the new, the new Jerusalem.
This is like heaven in this church.
So the city lives four square, its length the same as its
width. And he measured the city with a
city with its rod 12,000 stadia. Its length and width and height
are equal. He also measured its walls, 144
cubits by human measurement, which is also an angels
measurement. There you go.
So we stole the way we measure, I guess from the angels a little
bit. We're going to talk more about
angels, not necessarily this session, but it's interesting
because in the Tabernacle and the Temple, the Holy of Holies
was a cube. I don't know if you ever knew
that or not. It was equal, equal sided
because it's a representation, It's a symbol.
The Holy of Holies is a symbol of the new heaven and new earth
and New Jerusalem, specifically the dwelling place of God.
And so the in the Holy of Holies and the Tabernacle on the
Temple, it represented, it represented the very sanctuary
where you met with God, where you could be in God's presence.
And, and the same thing is going to be true in eternity in the
New Jerusalem. So you see this symbol of this
imagery that was supposed to teach us about the end.
And then the gates and foundations of the New Jerusalem
are described as you move forward.
In Revelation 21, it says the the wall was built of Jasper
while the city was pure gold like clear glass.
And Jasper is a translucent semi opaque stone, but it gives off
all kinds of different colors and so in But in Bible times, it
may be that this word was actually used to represent an A
diamond like gym. So when light shone through this
gym, it would really radiate from the center everywhere.
So it was a brilliant radiation of multiple colors.
Think of think of a rainbow prism just blinding you with
this light and it's multiple colors.
And so just a brilliant thing. And so God's glory radiating out
from his throne. So to make from the city, the
center of the city and then gold or something that looks like
gold. And I'm, I'm not trying to play
that up or down any more than I can.
It's just that if, if this really is gold, it's the purest
gold, the most perfect gold you could ever imagine.
So perfect. It's it's clear, it's glass like
in its appearance. Revelation keeps going.
The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every
kind of jewel. The first was Jasper, the second
Sapphire, The third Agate, The 4th Emerald, The 5th Onyx, The
6th Carnelian, The 7th Chrysalite.
The 8th Burial, The 9th Topaz, The 10th Chrysler Praise.
I can't say that word. The 11th Jason.
The 12th Amethyst and at the 12 gates were 12 pearls.
Each of the gates made of a single Pearl.
And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent
glass. You're going to see this
transparent glassy gold throughout the descriptions of
heaven. And so you see all these
incredible jewel tones and jewels making up the walls.
So think about, think about if you, you go back to the Nehemiah
story and they're building walls out of stones and blocks in, in,
in heaven. They're building the, the, the
walls out of blocks of precious stone.
Every, everyone being different and then you, you see these
gates that are made of a single Pearl.
Now these pearls weren't made by giant oysters.
They're not giant oysters in heaven.
I don't think Bible doesn't say that, but they are fashioned by
God's hand. But what it does say to me is it
really does reflect something. I I think you really do.
This goes back to our Roman study and we talked about
general revelation that you see in nature, so that even even the
simple oyster with the mother of Pearl on the inside and the
Pearl that it produces, it's just a reflection.
It's a reflection of God's glory and God's creation in a sense, a
little picture of heaven almost in the way that the beauty that
we see in in jewels and the beauty that we see in these
created objects of God are reflections to where through
nature he's showing that I exist.
He's pointing to himself in this general revelation way to
hopefully lead people to the specific revelation of the
gospel. Now, there are some things that
have heaven lacks. There's some things that heaven
didn't have, some things that are missing from heaven.
I, I know that's a shock. I know, but we're going to be
glad they're not there. Stinky things aren't going to be
there. Nothing stinks in heaven.
That's out of first. John, you were 36.
All right, Revelation 2122 keeps going.
And listen, he says. And I saw no temple in the city,
for his temple is the Lord God the Almighty in the Lamb.
And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it.
For the glory of God gives it light, and it's lamp is the
Lamb. By its light will the nation's
walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
And it's gates will never be shut by day, and there will be
no night there. They, they will bring into it
the glory and the honor of the nation's, but nothing unclean
will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or
false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of
life. No, temple don't need one.
God himself is the temple. God himself fulfills the need
for whatever the temples purpose was.
We don't need a temple anymore. We don't, we don't need that
system either of sacrifice anymore.
So God himself is the object of the worship, the place of
worship, the destination of worship, right.
The temple was where you used to go in, in biblical times to
worship, especially with the Jewish people in heaven.
We go to him and we don't need a separate light source.
He's the light. You don't need a security
system. He's he'll keep you secure.
You have no need of it. In fact, in heaven you have no
needs at all, period. No need.
I have no need. Complete satisfaction and
fulfilment. No curse, no sin, no darkness.
This incredible place Chapter 22 goes on, no longer will there be
any anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb
will be in it and his servants will worship him.
They will see his face and his name will be on their foreheads
and the and night will be no more.
They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be
their light and they will reign forever and ever.
The psalmist makes comment too. He says in Psalm 16, you make
known to me the path of life. In your presence there's
fullness of joy and that your right hand are pleasures
forevermore. No more sorrow, no more cares,
no more tears, no more fears, no more hurt, no more pain, no more
disappointment. None of that, because it says in
Revelation 21, four and five, he will wipe away every tear from
their eyes and death won't be there.
Death will be no more. Neither shall but there be
mourning nor crying nor pain anymore.
For the former, things have passed away.
So everything that causes you anxiety, every stressor, every
PTSD source, every hurt, every pain, every aching back or
broken tooth. Now, there's a couple of us who
believe that we will all be bald because perfection, right?
Tim Looper, Amen. Thank you very much.
Thank you for that testimony. The rest of you all covered up.
I don't get it. But one of these days, you'll
reach perfection. But the Bible tells us that the
former things have passed away. This is a verse that's very much
very similar to 2nd Corinthians 517.
The old things pass away. Behold, all things become new.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ.
And so we recognize that in heaven all things become new.
So the old is made new. Everything has changed.
And the Greek word here, kinos, is this idea of not just new
compared to the old, but it's made out of something different.
It's made out of a different substance.
It's a different quality. It's, it's, it's totally
different in its makeup, its form is different.
So it's a change in a lot of different.
So the new heaven and the new earth are going to be different.
We will be different. And sometimes, and we don't have
any other way to think about it, we'll, when people die and they,
they like to go fishing or something and they die, we can,
you know, we'll, we'll talk about how they're up there in
heaven catching big fish or something like that.
And maybe, maybe we'll catch big fish in heaven.
But you know, at times we've got to look beyond some of the
earthly stuff. It's going to be different.
It's going to be new. It's going to be something
incredible. We will be different.
Last, in our last session, we discussed the new bodies that
we're going to receive. The fact that death means
departure, the fact that the spirit and the soul depart from
the body, and we'll immediately be in the presence of the Lord.
But not yet in our final state where we've got the second
coming is going to usher that in.
The day's going to come though, and God reunites spirit and
resurrected body. Now we're fully conscious, we're
fully recognizable. We're fully aware.
In the meantime, the Bible indicates, but just listen to
what Billy said. Good old Billy.
Death has two stages. First, the separation of the
body from the spirit of a person for a purely spiritual
existence. And 2nd reunion with the body
and a glorious resurrection, the second coming of Christ when our
body ceases to function and we are dead.
That the spirit of the believer is not asleep.
We don't believe in soul sleep. Our flesh and bones and all the
intricate and wonderful parts God has made are the dwelling
place of the spirit of the believer.
Someday our bodies will be renewed and changed like that of
the resurrected body of Jesus Christ.
And as Paul wrote in Philippians 3 again, he says, who will
transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body by the
power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.
So these resurrected bodies, they're going to be perfectly
suited for eternity. And, and our our new bodies are
going to be like we talked last time, like Christ's glorious
body. In first John chapter 3, it
says, beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will
be has not yet appeared, but we know that when he appears we
shall be like him because we shall see him as he is.
So all we know now our only, our only basis of perception and our
standard of comparison is imperfection.
So what we think is great or good or healthy or better than
somebody else is still on a completely different standard
than what's going to happen in heaven.
Romans 822 reminds us as well that we know that the whole
creation has been groaning together in the pain of
childbirth until now. So as we talked earlier, all the
creation, all of the created order, the heaven, the physical
heaven and the earth and the the stellar heaven, the planetary
heavens, it's all groaning and agonizing under the effect of
sin. But a time's going to come for
perfection. So the whole person, body and
soul will be reunited completely new in a flawless way.
And it's hard to envision that now, hard to understand that now
because we can't see our spirit, we can't see our soul, but we
will finally actually be whole. We'll actually be complete.
So, so you got to think of it this way.
God isn't just making us better than we are, he's actually
conforming us to the image of his son in his glorious state,
to the image of Christ himself. We're we're being conformed more
to the image and and that makes us fit to be able to dwell in
his presence. You get you got to remember
this. If not go, but you can remember
the Old Testament part of this that we'll see in Exodus through
to 33 in a minute. But we can't be in the presence
of God right now. It would kill us in our physical
sinful state. The brilliance of God's presence
would be overwhelming. We can't be there in that
complete way, yet we talk about it.
We're we're in the presence of God or we want God's presence
with us in our worship and things like that.
But in a complete way we can't do that, yet it would kill us.
We can't be in hit what we would call his unveiled presence.
Paul wrote to his spiritual son Timothy, who alone has
immortality, who dwells and unapproachable light, whom no
one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor an eternal
dominion. Amen.
And then the famous story about the cleft in the rock in Exodus
33 with Moses. Moses said, please show me your
glory. And he said, he being God, I
will make all my goodness pass before you, and will proclaim
before you my name, the Lord. And I will be gracious to whom I
will be gracious, and I will show mercy on whom I will show
mercy. But he said, You cannot see my
face for a man shall not see me and live.
So then he basically says, here, look, here's a little bit of
here's a niche in the rock. You go in there and, and kind of
turn your back to me and I'll turn my back to you and you can
get a little glimpse because that's all you can handle.
So we have to be changed. We can't stay the way we are.
We have to be changed or we would die in his brilliance.
So he outfits us with this resurrected body that can take
it, that's designed for this. So in heaven, we're going to
lose our fallenness and our resurrected bodies are going to
have the same qualities as the glorified body of Christ that we
talked about in the last session.
And believers who are dead first are going to be united with
their perfected bodies. Then those who are still alive,
guess what we get to do? We get to fly.
We'll be caught up and instantly changed and glorified.
It's what 1st Thessalonians 4 is all about.
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers about those
who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no
hope. For since we believe that Jesus
died and rose again, Even so, through Jesus God will bring
with him those who have fallen asleep.
For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who
are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not
proceed those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a cry
of command, with the voice of an Archangel, with the sound of the
trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together
with them in the clouds, meet the Lord in the air, and so we
will always be with the Lord. Therefore, encourage one another
with these words. What do you all call that?
The rapture. Some people don't believe in the
rapture anymore. Some people in churches don't
teach the rapture anymore. I'm not sure what they do with
this. I'm hanging on for it.
One of these days, one of the two things is going to happen.
One of these days, I just kind of want to hear the voice of an
Archangel and the sound of the trumpet of God.
Don't you That sound, right? My guess is that stir you out of
bed for the day. That will be.
And as I mentioned earlier, our resurrected bodies will be
different. They're different in variety and
quality than what we now know. So they're going to be
especially suited for this. But we will have real bodies
that are permanently and eternally perfect, that, again,
no sickness, no injury, no disease.
I love this quote by John Quincy Adams, the former president
later in life and he lived to be an old man.
Late in life, he was asked how he was doing.
He said John Quincy Adams is well served, very well.
The house in which he has been living is dilapidated and old
and has received word from its maker that he must vacate soon.
But John Quincy Adams is well, Sir, very well, as Paul would
write to the Corinthians at another time.
This is just a House of clay, a vessel of clay, a tent that we
live in, that that one day will be gone.
We're going to have new hearts. We'll have a completely purified
heart with no sin, Romans 7, which we'll get to in our Romans
series 2 not too long from now, wretched man that I am, who will
deliver me from this body of death, thanks be to God through
Jesus Christ our Lord. So then I myself serve the law
of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
So we're going to be released from this.
We're going to be released from sin, from the penalty and the
power and the presence of sin. No more barriers, no more
obstacles to perfect fellowship with God, no more struggle, no
more guilt, no more failure, no more distractions, no more
doubts, no more obstacles, no more lack of faith.
We're going to be right there with him and we're going to have
new minds. This is a very holistic
experience. Our heart changes, our mind
changes. In First Corinthians 1312, it's
that verse you know. For now we see in a mirror,
dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part.
Then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
So no more ignorance, no more false thoughts, no more
failures, no more imperfections. None of that bad things are not
going to come to our minds anymore.
They're going to be blocked out by the brilliance in the
knowledge of God. Our thought process will no
longer be a battle. Our focus won't be distracted.
We'll stand amazed to see how God beautifully embroidered each
circumstance into this pattern for our good and His glory.
We're finally going to understand.
Romans 828, finally. And we know that those who love
God, that for those who love God, all things work together
for good, for those who are called according to His purpose,
this will finally be understood. We're going to get it.
We're going to understand in a new way how everything fit and
sin's no longer going to define us.
And then I want to spend a couple minutes on this one
because this was actually a question that came up to me
afterwards last last session. We need to talk about some new
relationships. And this is kind of hard for
some people. Some people don't like this
part. So I hope that you like heaven.
I prefer that you like heaven. If you're going to go there, you
better like it. I had AI, had AI, had a youth.
I was in the youth ministry for many years, if you can believe
it or not. I was actually a youth once and
and I worked with a bunch of missionary kids.
Part of my job in the Philippines is I had a whole
youth group of missionary kids and I had one of them come up to
me one time and they said, you know, I don't know if I want to
go to heaven. And I'm like, so finish the
sentence. Yeah.
I mean, if going to heaven is just like going to church all
the time and all we're going to do is just go to church all the
time, I'm not sure I want to go there.
That's called a pause. Did you hear that?
That was a pause. I don't know if that was a
statement about church, about her or just.
Yes. But in heaven, in eternity, we
relate to one another in a different way.
And for some, because we're so attached to our earthly
relationships, this can be kind of a hard teaching for some.
Now, don't let it be that. Let it be incredible, because in
heaven we're going to experience perfect people for the first
time in perfect fellowship. You don't know what that is.
You don't have that. I don't care how good you think
your relationship with somebody else is, you don't have that.
You're not perfect and neither are they.
And for the first time, a perfect person in a perfect
relationship takes on a whole different meaning.
We've never done that before. We have no clue how great this
is going to be now. There are countless folks that I
can't wait to see again. There are who are there.
My mother and father were saved before they died.
I look forward to seeing them. I have nieces and nephews who
have died. I look forward to seeing them.
I have incredible Saints and churches that have gone on and
relatives who have died that were saved it.
I can't wait to see them again. I look forward to seeing them
and I and we're going to know each other and I'm going to come
back to that again in a minute. But in First Corinthians 7, just
hear what's written. This is what I mean, brothers.
The appointed time has grown very short.
From now on let those who have wives live as though they have
none, and those who mourn as though there were not mourning,
and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing.
And those who buy as those as though they had no goods, and
those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with
it. For the present form of this
world is passing away. Now that last part, form is
really important. The the form of this world is
passing away. The word for form of schema,
which is really interesting because that word's used in
other places in the New Testament, but it means a manner
of life. It means a way of doing things.
So the way we do things here will pass away the way we deal
with the world, the way we deal with one another.
They're going to be different. And so heaven has higher values.
In fact, this comes to a real specific point when the
Pharisees and Sadducees are trying to trap Jesus in a
lengthy passage. And this is the passage about a
guy dies and he has a brother and then they die and they die
and they have a brother and they die and who gets the wife?
I mean, it's a whole long thing they're going through, right?
And, and, and so they're trying to trap Jesus because you got to
remember, the Pharisees believed that you had the same
relationships after death that you did on earth.
I don't know if you know that about the Pharisees.
The Sadducees didn't believe in the afterlife at all.
And so they're trying to get Jesus to pick a side and both of
them are wrong. And so they're trying to, but
they're trying to get him to pick, pick a side.
So they're asking him about our human relationships after death.
So in Matthew 22, he answers them, and this is an important
teaching for us, he says, but Jesus answered them.
You're wrong, both of you, all of you.
You're wrong. You're wrong.
Oh, world's wrong, but because
you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God.
And remember, these are the religious leaders of the day.
Verse 34. In the resurrection, they
neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in
heaven. And As for the resurrection of
the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God?
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of
Jacob. He is not God of the dead, but
of the living. And when the crowd heard it,
they were astonished at his teaching.
And you know, I won't go down this rabbit hole too far, but
you got to understand how they should be.
They hadn't heard any of this. They'd never heard this before.
I mean, they should have, but that's they were being fed
either Pharisaical or Sadducee teaching in their religious
life. And so one way or the other,
they're both getting the wrong teaching.
So for anybody who was probably alive at this moment, this is
the first time they're ever hearing this kind of stuff.
So he says, listen, it's he's not saying we become angels.
That's not what he's saying here.
We become like them in our relationships.
That's what he's saying. So hang in there with me through
this paragraph or so. All the need for marriage will
be gone. We don't need marriage in
heaven. It doesn't mean we don't love
each other, but it's just going to be so different.
And so here we need marriage, here we need a help mate, here
we need helpers, we need protectors, we need companions.
We need all that in our earthliness and God blesses us
with that in a wonderful way. And but, but we're completing
him because in heaven, we don't need any other helper.
We don't need any other protector.
He's there and he fulfills that need that we have.
So we have companionship and a pure love than we have ever had
here. And you might sit there.
There's no way in the world I love my spouse so much.
There's no way anybody could love me or I could love anybody
more than that. You just don't know.
It's different.
It's so pure and so perfect. And so the population of heaven,
you got to remember this part of it too, that the population of
heaven is going to be fixed. You don't have new babies in
heaven, so that part of marriage is not needed either.
And so they're not going to be new babies in heaven.
So, but that doesn't mean that there's no recognizable gender
or identity. We talked a little bit about
this last time. Christ was still recognizable.
He was also still recognizable as masculine.
And so there seems to be an indication that that's going to
still be there. And so some people say this is
hard. I love my wife.
She's my best friend, my dearest companion and, and I, I, I
wanted to be my wife in heaven. Well, she's still there, but
we're going to have such a perfect relationship with each
other and, and an eternal companionship in heaven that is
more perfect than any earthly partnership could ever be.
It's going to be so much better. We're going to have a perfect
relationship with every other perfect person in heaven.
It's just different the way we're going to relate to one
another and to Him, but we will know each other somehow.
The particular person you now carry around is also going to be
seen in this new miraculous body.
I, I don't know that that means you're going to look exactly the
same, but you're going to be identifiable.
We will forever be who we are, only perfect.
I mean, you got to remember the scripture shows this.
In fact he just did a minute ago.
But the scripture show this over and over again.
Remember when David's baby died in Second Samuel?
He says, but now he's dead. Why should I fast?
Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall
not return to me. David knew he would see him
again. Or Matthew 811.
I tell you, many will come from east and West and recline at
table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the Kingdom of heaven.
There's still them. In fact, in the passage I read
earlier from Matthew 22, he refers to the God of Abraham,
the God of Isaac. The God of this is still
Abraham. This is still, this is still
Isaac, this is still Jacob. You're going to see these guys.
You're going to recognize these guys.
You're going to know that's Abraham.
I don't think anybody's going to have to tap you on the shoulder
and say that's Abraham, the guy playing pickleball.
That's Moses. Got a mean serve.
It's perfect. It's a perfect serve.
We're in heaven. What do you think?
I'm not suggesting we're playing pickleball in heaven.
Remember always, chuckytaylor@inglewoodbabish.com.
But there's still them. And, and remember, as I talked
about in the last session, Elijah and Moses, who had been
dead for centuries, appeared in clear identity with Jesus on the
Mount of Transfiguration. But we're going to relate to
each other in a different way. We're also going to get to
relate to the heavenly host, and this is a part of heaven that we
talk about Jesus and God the Father sometimes.
But I want you to just take a moment to recognize that one of
the exciting parts of heaven is we're going to get to know on
fellowship with angels. They love that we're going to be
there. They throw a party when you get
to come. Luke 15 says, just so I tell
you, there is joy before the angels of God over 1 Sinner who
repents. And so if we don't rejoice,
we're missing out because the angels are rejoicing.
We're going to baptize 3 people on Sunday.
We got the baptistery fixed, by the way.
So we'll baptize 3 this Sunday. I think we got a couple more the
Sunday after that and maybe some more get lined up after that. 4
this week, 4 this week, is that right?
We're going to baptize 4 people this week.
I'm going to preach for 2 1/2 minutes.
Now this is an incredibly important sermon. 1 commentator
says this is the most important paragraph ever written in
history. So you need to be here this
Sunday. But but the angels see our
redemption and they see it completed that, you know, they,
they've known what's been going on.
And then at the end they see a completion to all of this and
this it's going to lead them to worship and our ability to
worship with him. Listen to Revelation 5.
Then I looked and I heard around the throne and the living
creatures and the elders, the voices of many angels, numbering
myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud
voice, Worthy is the Lamb who was slain to receive power and
wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing.
We get to be there. Just blow your horn once for me,
Michael. That's Gabriel over there.
Gabriel likes to play pickleball with Moses.
But that's not the best thing about heaven, is it?
The best thing about heaven is an unbroken fellowship with God.
We have communion with Him here and now.
If you've trusted in him, if you're a follower of His, you
have that. But it's still incomplete
because of us. Not because of him, but because
of us. And in heaven, there's no sin to
cloud that anymore. Nothing to dim it, nothing to
put it out of focus, nothing to distract you.
We're going to be with a person as much as we're going to live
in a place, and that's the significant part of heaven.
We're going there not just because there's this wonderful
place called Heaven. And I don't, I'm not going to go
to that place called Hell, but I'm going to get there because
of the person who's there. That'll be the focus, that'll be
the object. That's what makes Heaven,
heaven. So again, Revelation 21 And I
heard a loud voice from the throne saying, behold, the
dwelling place of God is with man, and he will dwell with
them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be
with them as their God. And we're free from sin.
So we'll see God's glory unveiled for the first time in
fullness. You think you've had great
moments with Him here Matthew 58 reminds us that blessed are the
pure in heart, for they shall see God.
The reason I use that verse, it's interesting because the
verb see the harao is written in a future continuous reality the
way it's written in the Greek language.
In other words, not only do they see God, they're going to see
God. They're never not going to see
God. They're going to continue to see
God forever. They're going to see God.
We will see him continually. So how do I get there?
Psalm 39 says, oh, Lord, make me know my end.
And what is the measure of my days?
Let me know how fleeting I am. You know, it's natural.
I think it's very normal to want to live as long as possible
here. It's very normal, very natural.
People fear death. People fear the loss of
fellowship and it's it's normal to I was some TV some
commercials on was on TV the other day about somebody talking
about live trying to live forever scientifically trying to
figure out to live forever. They're going to fail.
By the way, I don't even have to know the science, but it's
natural to to want to stick around.
But the actual timing of death is in the hands of of a God
who's incredibly and perfectly sovereign.
And Job wrote about it and Job 14, since his days are
determined and the number of his months is with you, and you have
appointed his limits that he cannot pass.
God has a time limit on us. He knows when we need to come
home. And our God who loves us
infinitely is still in charge of time, even though he transcends
it. He's in charge and, and, and we
can trust him completely. I mean, if, if I knew the manner
and the moment that my life would, would end, that I would
die, would I change my life and the way I lived right now?
It's important question, how would you change your life?
When would you change your life? Why would you have to?
Are you prepared? Are you prepared at any moment?
Psalm 31 says my times are in your hand.
Rescue me from the hand of my enemies and from my persecutors.
So he recognized David recognized it.
His time is in God's hand. Our knowledge of heaven then,
should influence the way we live right now.
It ought to impact the way we live, right?
We ought to live as heavenly ish as we can.
I don't know if it's a word, but it is now We should live
heavenly ish. How you use your time, where's
your focus? When you know something's going
to happen, it's pretty wise to prepare for it.
And many people make no preparation whatsoever for the
most important journey that they're ever going to take and
the one that all of us will take at some point from this life to
the next. Because you're either going to
die, sit down. I know it's shocking.
You're either going to die or Jesus is going to return.
But there's no need to be afraid.
Just be ready, be ready. This is too great a risk.
I mean, I don't understand people.
I really don't. It boggles my mind.
I've I've dealt with them all my life, deal with some now.
It's too great a risk to to place a bet on a guess.
Eternity is at risk here. Hebrews 11 reminds us that faith
is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things
not seen. So faith means believing in
realities that go beyond sense and sight.
That's the whole point. That's what He wants from us.
He wants us to trust in, to believe in, to rely upon, and to
be certain of Him. Not because you appeared in a
cloud. Not because you your face
appears on a burnt piece of toast.
And our free will and that love nature.
He gave us that free will. And in that free will he says He
wants us to choose to love Him and to know him, and reminds you
of a verse, these verses that you know well, but you need to
think about them sometimes. Ephesians 2, beginning in verse
8. For by grace you have been saved
through faith, and this is not your own doing.
It's the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one
may boast. But don't forget verse 10.
For we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good
works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk
in them. Not only are we saved, but we
ought to live a certain life in grace by faith.
You can't save yourself. And you got to remember, that
includes trying to figure this out on your own, to try to
figure all this out on your own with your limited mind, your
limited ability, based on some kind of facts that you're trying
to search out. You can't do this on your own.
You never will. Your faith is what is needed,
your faith in eternal truth. Remember what Jesus said in one
of the most famous chapters of the Bible in John chapter 3.
Jesus answered truly, truly. I say to you, unless one is born
of water in the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born
of the Spirit is Spirit. Do not marvel that I said to
you, you must be born again then.
But listen to this verse. The wind blows where it wishes
and you hear it sound, but you don't know where it comes from
or where it goes. So it is with everyone who's
born of the Spirit. Now the word for spirit and the
word for wind are the same words in Greek.
So it's a play on words in the original language as well.
But we have to be born again. And faith in Christ alone is
what does that. And you sit there and say, well,
I don't know how to do that. Which kind of like you,
something about the wind blowing.
You believe in gravity. You Google this after I'm done,
prove me wrong. But you better be right when you
try to do that. And you better read the whole
article, not parts of it. Do you believe in gravity?
We know gravity is there, but they to this day don't know the
ultimate cause of gravity in science.
You might as well. Of course they didn't know.
They don't. You read an honest scientific
study of gravity. They know how it works to some
degree. They know it's there, but they
don't know what causes it. You believe in magnetism?
Magnets sticking together. Oh, you read an article and they
say, of course we know how magnetism works.
It has to do with the magnetic pool of the electrons and how
the electrons are spinning and they give off a magnetic force.
But when you ask them why do the electrons have a magnetic force,
they don't know. We believe in magnetism, we
believe in gravity. We have faith in them, depend
upon them every day, but we don't even know what why they
work the way they do. Science can explain to some how
it works when they get on that microscopic level, but they
don't know why it works Now. Faith is the assurance of things
hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
You have faith in gravity and magnetism, but you struggle
believing in God. What do you think all this stuff
comes from? So do you know beyond any shadow
of a doubt that if you were to die today, you would go to
heaven? And I don't.
I don't know why that any believer has a doubt.
I don't understand it. Royce.
Do you understand that I don't understand that I know beyond
any shadow of doubt. You strike me down right now.
I know exactly where I am immediately.
That has nothing to do with me, man.
That changes life. Are you ready?
You need to fix your heart on heaven.
You need to long for the glory of heaven.
Remember Colossians 3, one of the first passages I ever
preached to you here at Inglewood.
It says if then you have been raised with Christ, seek the
things that are above where Christ is seated at the right
hand of God. Set your mind on things that are
above, not on things that are on the earth.
For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
When Christ, who is your life appears, I love that then you
also will appear with Him in glory.
Pretty cool, huh? Well, it's pretty special
because the same guy who died on the cross for you, the same God
who rose from the dead, has gone on to prepare a place for you.
John 14 reminds us, let not your hearts be troubled.
Believe faith. That's the word for faith.
Faith in God, faith also in me, in my Father's house, or many
rooms if it were not so, what I have told you that I go to
prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place
for you, I will come again and we'll take you to myself.
That where I am, you may be also in heaven.
Take great comfort in this, but for those of you who doubt, I
just beg that you would believe, and I dare you to come here.
Sunday's sermon out of Romans, chapter 3.
Father, thank you, man. Those words aren't enough, are
they? Thank you, Father, for
everything. Thank you for all things.
Thank you for who you are. Thank you for what you've done.
Thank you, Father, for what you're preparing.
Thank you, Father, for your perfect timing.
Thank you, Father, for your perfect knowledge.
Thank you, Father, for a perfect destination for us.
Lord, when we stack ourselves up against all that, we sure don't
deserve it. But Father, I'm so thankful that
deserve ain't got nothing to do with it.
Grace, Grace. So, Father, I pray that You will
equip those here who do not know you, who are not trusting in
you, who are not walking with you, who are not doing the good
works in their life right now, that You prepared beforehand not
to be saved, but because they are saved.
That Father, You would give them the strength to believe.
We believe in so many things we don't understand here on earth.
We do so blindly. And yet, Father, we seem to
struggle with trusting in you. Father, forgive us, Lord, we are
imperfect. But Father, I pray that we're
all so hungry. I pray, Father, that we're
longing. I pray, Father, that we're
looking forward and seeking a better country.
And Father, one day, one day with people from every tribe and
every tongue in every nation, and myriads and myriads and
thousands and thousands of angels and heavenly creatures,
we're going to surround a sea of transparent glass before your
throne. And we're going to worship
because you deserve it, because only you are worthy.
Thank you, Father, help us, Lord, help us, Father, this week
to live for you, to tell somebody else about you and to
bring them with us in Christ's name, Amen.
Thank you all. Thank you so much for listening
today. And I also hope that you'll go
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you and your families. Thank you once again.