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Hey everybody, this is Pastor 
John Ewart from Inglewood 

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Baptist Church in Rocky 
Mountain, North Carolina. 

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Thank you so much for tuning 
into our podcast. 

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You're going to hear from God 
today as we share from his word 

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about important issues facing 
your life that can guide you 

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according to the Bible. 
All right, So thank you for 

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being here and appreciate you if
you're a guest here as we begin 

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a new series for those who are 
listening later, thank you for 

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listening and hope that if you 
have any prayer requests or any 

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needs that you'll contact us at 
the church. 

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Also hope that you'll tune into 
the other podcast episodes that 

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we have so that that you might 
be able to pick up some of our 

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other series. 
This coming Sunday, I'm going to

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begin our series in Romans, and 
we're diving pretty deeply in 

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chapter 1 already, and so we'll 
be in chapter 1 this week. 

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If you would like one of these 
journals, these are wonderful. 

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They're blank on one side with 
the scripture on the other. 

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Great place for you to take 
every single note you'd ever 

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want to take from a book study. 
I have the complete set of these

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things. 
This is what I do in my quiet 

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time. 
And so we have the book of 

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Romans in the bookstore, and I 
believe they will be open even 

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tonight after this session if 
you're interested in one of 

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those. 
So pick those up and you can 

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follow right along with the with
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So I look forward to that. 
But here at midweek, we're 

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starting the Heaven, Hell and 
Hereafter series. 

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And I know that you want me to 
get into angels and you want me 

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to get into demons and you want 
me to get into hell and you want

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me to explain Hades and you want
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And we will, I promise. 
But we needed to do a little 

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more general backdrop to get us 
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And so we've we're calling this 
session wrapping our brains 

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around eternity. 
And if nothing else, we're going

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to praise the Lord tonight and 
acknowledge who he is. 

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Because eternity is a big word. 
And we need to understand it. 

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Because obviously when we start 
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we will be in that subject 
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And I'll get to that in just a 
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But we're going to break down 
all those other pieces over the 

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next several sessions, and so I 
hope you'll be back and hope 

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you'll tune in for that. 
I appreciate very much the work 

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of some friends of mine as well 
as some people that I've read 

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for years. 
I appreciate Paul ends and his 

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work, Doctor Paul Ends, Doctor 
Wayne Grudem, Doctor Miller 

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Derrickson, and others who have 
written on some of these 

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subjects. 
I just appreciate them. 

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Always want to give due credit 
to sources whenever I possibly 

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can remember to do that. 
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is eternity or eternality. 
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for a few minutes. 
I don't know if you've ever had 

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a session just about this before
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us. 
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eternality for a moment. 
The eternity, the eternity of 

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God is partially understood by 
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And I want you to note, I said 
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We partially understand this. 
We do not understand this fully.

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We cannot understand this fully.
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In fact, one of the problems in 
the world today is they want to 

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understand everything there is 
about God, be able to dissect 

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it, box it and and catalog it. 
And that's part of their 

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problem, because you can't. 
We have revelation from God. 

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He reveals to us what we need to
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reveal everything about Himself.
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partially as it relates 
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And so we're going to be on the 
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tonight. 
And so because we can't grasp it

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all, it's, it's frankly too 
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fully comprehend. 
We, we struggle, the human mind 

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struggles with the word eternal.
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forever and ever and ever and 
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What does that mean? 
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brains around that. 
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eternal and hell is eternal, we 
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first. 
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just for a few moments because 
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So by definition, the eternality
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partially defined in the fact 
that God is not limited or bound

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by time. 
Now Wayne Grudem gives us a more

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extensive definition and he says
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further as follows. 
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secession of moments in his own 
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That's an important phrase more 
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And he sees he sees all time 
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Yet God also sees events in time
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Now, what in the world did he 
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Well, sometimes this doctrine is
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God. 
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called the doctrine of Infinity.
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affinity wrapped up into this as
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Some of you when I say the word 
Infinity, you're thinking of a a

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doll that in a spacesuit that 
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buzzing your lightyear. 
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unlimited. 
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doctrine teaches that time does 
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Now not everybody wants to 
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Well, tough because the Bible 
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So with God, there is no what we
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events. 
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Something happened today, 
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tomorrow. 
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transcends all of that. 
I'll talk about that a lot. 

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I'm going to be redundant, 
repetitive. 

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I'm going to say the same things
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help you understand. 
Pizza, pizza. 

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All right, so God is above all 
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Time does not have anything to 
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determining what God can or 
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So what we recognize is God's 
eternity then goes backward into

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a Infinity, and it goes forward 
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There was never a time God was 
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time when God will not be. 
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our human brains around, 
frankly, because we are living 

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in a very mortal, very finite 
existence in this physical world

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that we are living in now. 
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eternity also is really related 
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When you go to Exodus 3, you 
know this verse, you just may 

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not know it's Exodus 314, but 
this is the verse where you know

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the the burning Bush around 
that, where Moses is getting his

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Commission. 
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I could do it better. 
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Is that better? 
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All right, very good. 
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people of Israel. 
I am has sent me to you so many 

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and I would be a part of that. 
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this version of I am that I am 
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It's the present tense of the 
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verb to be. 
In other words, he's declaring 

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his own eternity in the sense 
that I am I, I always have been,

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I always will be, I is there 
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I'm here and it, it reflects his
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this is a phrase that you'll see
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He is the continually existing 
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That's a good description of 
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one. 
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Greek language and biblical 
language, there are at least two

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kinds of time that are described
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If I were to talk about Second 
Corinthians 517 with my 

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testimony last week, I would 
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And this, this word also gets 
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But there's one word, chronos, 
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You can see how we get English 
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And this is the, the, the 
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around us. 
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around the sun. 
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his axle. 
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And these are things that we 
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We still don't chart them 
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to some degree. 
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time, Kairos, which is related 
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But this idea of Kairos, which 
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different. 
This is a qualitatively 

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different description of time. 
It's not so much quantitative as

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it is qualitative. 
I'll explain. 

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So God's time is what the 
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this in some previous session 
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I'm going to elaborate more on 
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But this, this is what the 
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would call God's unbounded Now. 
You got to think about those 

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words. 
Don't let these words throw you.

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In other words, his now has no 
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His now is everything. 
His now is unlimited. 

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So what that means is, is that 
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and, and what will stretch into 
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is right now. 
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There is no present. 
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He sees it all at the same time,
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He already sees. 
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distinction between that 
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We're stuck in the timeline. 
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God lives in chaos to our Kairos
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And I'll make my point stronger 
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So all things are equally and 
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Now you can't understand that I 
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I can describe it, but I can't 
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reference point for that in my 
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So what we see is, is that there
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gone, nor a future that has not 
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And that might freak you out. 
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understand predestination and 
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This foreknowledge is the key to
everything in the sense of of He

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already knows. 
So this doctrine also helps us 

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relate, and I'm going to come 
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This doctrine also helps us to 
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unchangeableness, right? 
Because of who he is, because of

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his relationship to time. 
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God is the same when? 
Yesterday. 

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What? 
Yeah, today and tomorrow or 

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forever. 
Hebrews 13/8. 

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He's the same yesterday and 
today and forever. 

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Not just because He is 
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Now that's true. 
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That is part of this. 
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consistent. 
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how we would think of the verse.
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He's always the same. 
He's not going to be 

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inconsistent. 
We would talk about that, but 

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that's not all this verse is 
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He's also, he's not just, he's 
not just consistent, but it also

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is the fact that he absolutely 
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He is the same yesterday, today,
tomorrow, forever, because for 

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him it's all right now. 
It's the same moment for him 

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now. 
Again, hard for us to get. 

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God's eternity is is described 
in Scripture, not contained, but

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described. 
Listen to the psalmist in Psalm 

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90, verse 2, before the 
mountains were brought forth or 

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or ever you had formed the earth
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to everlasting. 
You are God. 

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Now what is everlasting to 
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it's a part of the fact that 
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was not and there never will be 
when he is not, He has always 

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been. 
So it's true that God is not, is

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not changed. 
It's true that God does not 

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change. 
He's unchangeable, but you got 

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to hear me. 
One of the reasons for that is 

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that time cannot change God. 
Time does not change God. 

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I don't know about you, but time
has changed me. 

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It has no effect on God. 
It has no effect on His being. 

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It has no effect on His 
perfection. 

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It has no effect on His purpose.
It has no effect on His 

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promises. 
It doesn't change his word. 

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It doesn't change his will, it 
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in life. 
So time has no effect. 

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And this is going to be weird 
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Hang in there with me. 
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knowledge. 
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new things. 
God never forgets things that 

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would that would mean a change 
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God already knows those things. 
He's already seen those things, 

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so the passing of time does not 
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knowledge. 
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knows all things present, He 
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knows them all equally and 
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would write. 
Thus He is the Alpha and what He

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is the beginning and the end. 
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the alpha in the Omega, says the
Lord God, who is and who was and

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who is to come the Almighty. 
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And the fact that God never 
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concluded from the fact that God
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He was here before anything 
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I've talked about this before. 
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time is to us. 
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creation. 
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Genesis 11, at least not in the 
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one after another. 
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before, during, or after. 
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universe, he created time, and 
when he began to create the 

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universe, and before there was 
time, God always existed without

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beginning and without being 
influenced by time, because time

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didn't even exist. 
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an existence in itself. 
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time absolutely depends upon 
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keep it going. 
So let me just make sure in case

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you haven't been here in the 
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clear as I can to. 
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Right seasons. 

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The earth is going around the 
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Correct. 
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The Earth spinning on its axle, 
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before Genesis one. 
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moon, there was no solar system,
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There was no spinning on an axle
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There was no time. 
Now we get we get wrapped up and

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trapped into it because we base 
our entire existence upon it and

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we Fred over it and we're 
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it and we look forward to it. 
But it's just different with 

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God. 
All of existence, all of his 

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existence has been and is always
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I'm not trying to explain it to 
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It's beyond this, but this is 
difficult for us to understand 

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it, for it's a kind of existence
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experience here. 
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belief. 
In fact, Psalm 90, verse four, 

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that same Psalm I read earlier, 
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says the following. 
It says for 1000 years in your 

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sight or but as yesterday when 
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the night. 
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like you would remember today or
yesterday or better perfectly he

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can he can see it all or second 
Peter 38, which kind of builds 

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on the same idea, the one that 
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But do not overlook this one 
fact beloved, that with the Lord

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one day is as what 1000 years 
and 1000 years as one day. 

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Now that doesn't mean that 1000 
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It's just symbolizing the fact 
that his ability to know and to 

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see all at once is unlimited and
he sees it and can see it all. 

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So he knows and understands who 
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through. 
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period of time to us just 
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It's just happening. 
Sees. 

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He sees and he knows all events,
past, present, and future with 

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equal vividness. 
So God's relationship to time in

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a way is a way, in a way that we
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His experience of time is not 
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It's not just like he's 
impatiently enduring eons and 

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eons of endless duration. 
That's not how this works at 

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all. 
He has a qualitatively different

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Kairos experience of time, and 
this is consistent with the idea

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that in his own being God is 
timeless. 

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He does not experience moments 
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There is no past, there is no 
present, there is no future with

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Him. 
In the same way. 

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He is not like us. 
Isaiah writes about it. 

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He says declare and this Isaiah 
4521. 

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Declare and present your case. 
Let them take counsel together. 

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Who towed this long ago? 
Who declared it of old, old, old

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ode, That's ODE in it, an ode to
somebody. 

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Was it not I the Lord? 
And there is no other God 

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besides me, a righteous God and 
a Saviour. 

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There is none besides me. 
In other words, there's just 

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nobody else like me, or listen 
to Psalm, or excuse me, Isaiah 

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46, verse 9. 
Remember the former things of 

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old, for I am God and there is 
no other. 

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I am God and there is none. 
Like me declaring the end from 

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the beginning and from ancient 
times things not yet done. 

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And hear that phrase saying, my 
counsel shall stand, and I will 

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accomplish all my purpose. 
So even from ancient times, he 

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knows already what's coming, 
what's coming today. 

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He knew that before time began. 
In a moment, we're going to 

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personalize all this so it can 
give you a headache if you 

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contemplate this theological 
trigonometry too long. 

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But at the same time, I want us 
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we can understand eternal life 
that we experience, which we'll 

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talk about more in a moment. 
I've used the illustration, but 

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some of you were not there and 
some of you have never seen it, 

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so bear with me for a moment. 
You just have to understand. 

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And so let me do it one more 
time. 

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Let me talk about the line and 
the .1 more time. 

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Some of you could stand up and 
do it instead of me. 

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But this is the way I would 
teach this in a seminary class 

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and everybody look at me and say
that's way too simple. 

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And then they'd think about it 
for a minute and come back and 

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thank me. 
I didn't think of this, but in 

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geometry, a line is the distance
between two points. 

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You all remember your geometry, 
a line between two points. 

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Some of you younger folks 
probably in it now. 

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When you turn a line on its end 
in geometry, what does it 

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become? 
A point. 

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God sees the point. 
We're living the line, and 

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that's the difference between 
us. 

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I can't see the point. 
I have to live the line. 

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But when God turns it on its 
end, it's a single. 

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A line is a single point when 
it's on its end. 

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That's how God sees. 
God sees it all now. 

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God knows what I'm going to do 
tomorrow. 

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He knows what I'm going to say 
tonight. 

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He knows what I'm going to do 
wrong next week. 

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He already knows. 
And so that ought to affect our 

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lives, and we'll talk about that
in a moment. 

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We also recognize that His 
eternality, His eternality is 

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related to His eternal rule in 
His Kingdom. 

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Listen to the psalmist in Psalm 
102, verse 12. 

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But you, O Lord, are enthroned 
forever. 

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You are remembered throughout 
all generations. 

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There's never a time when he's 
not. 

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There's never a time when God is
not in complete control. 

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There's never a time when he 
loses his sovereignty. 

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There's never a time when God's 
not on the throne. 

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Oh, sometimes in evangelism or 
in an illustration, we'll talk 

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about, have you moved God off 
the throne of your life? 

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And you know, will you get off 
the throne of your life and put 

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God back on the throne of your 
life? 

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That's not what we're talking 
about. 

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We're talking about the eternal 
heavenly sovereign throne of the

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universe. 
He's in complete control. 

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Now, lest I be a hypocrite, let 
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original definition by Wayne 
Grudem. 

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We also said that he sees all 
time equally vividly. 

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Yet God also sees events in time
and acts in time. 

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So even though God is not 
affected by time, God still 

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works in Chronos. 
He does still work in our time. 

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He does that. 
There are times that we while 

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God sees everything as an 
eternal now, he nonetheless in 

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relation to man and in relation 
to this physical creation that 

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he developed and and made for 
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He does work through secession 
of events in our timeline for 

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us. 
That's for us so that we might 

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know him. 
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time, he also sees the events in
time and he acts in time. 

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For example, at Christmas I 
preached A sermon series called 

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the Fullness of Time based on 
Galatians 4 because I'm 

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fascinated by that phrase. 
I still am relates to this to 

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some degree. 
Galatians 4, four and five, 

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where it says, but when the 
fullness of time had come, God 

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sent forth his Son, born of 
woman, born under the law, to 

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redeem those who are under the 
law so that we might receive 

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adoption as sons. 
So we recognize that God is 

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manipulating time. 
God is orchestrating history. 

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God is orchestrating time. 
God is working in our timeline 

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with us because that's how we 
can relate to him. 

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We can't relate to the unbounded
now. 

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We need him to work in our past.
We need him to work in our 

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present. 
We need him to work in our 

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future so that we can relate to 
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So he does. 
So he'll do something tomorrow 

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and he'll do something Tuesday 
and he'll do something on 

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Sunday. 
I pray. 

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So even though he's above it, he
still works in it. 

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Now, if you, if you don't 
understand, there's a word for 

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that. 
It's a, it's a really fancy 

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theological word. 
God transcends time. 

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God is not affected by time. 
God doesn't need or have to live

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within time, but he chooses to 
work within our time frame to 

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help us. 
There's a really fancy 

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theological word. 
It's called grace. 

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That's what that is. 
As the creator of God, he knew 

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we would have to have that. 
Well, he knew we couldn't 

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relate. 
We couldn't comprehend this 

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stuff without that. 
I, I can't identify with 

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unbounded now. 
I can't identify seeing it all 

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at once. 
It would blow your brains out. 

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And so he recognizes that we 
need this and he's extremely 

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gracious to do that. 
And so not only do we see him 

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sending himself in an Incarnate,
I'll get it out. 

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Incarnate form is God the Son 
and Jesus to to live, to be one 

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of us, to walk alongside of us 
in Chronos in a life that was 30

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something years long with with a
beginning and an end of his 

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earthly time. 
But we also recognize that he 

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does it incarnationally with us 
every single day in a very 

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similar way to where the God, 
the Holy Spirit is walking with 

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us intimately, step by step by 
step along the line, because he 

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loves us that much and he wants 
us to know him that much. 

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That's how much this God will 
lower himself. 

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That's how much this God will 
make the effort. 

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That's how much this God will 
work to be able to relate to us.

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Now you show me another world 
religion where that happens. 

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Doesn't exist like that. 
While we were yet sinners, 

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Christ died for us. 
Does not exist in any other 

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world belief system. 
Everybody else, everybody else 

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is working their way up the 
ladder. 

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Everybody else is somehow going 
to achieve or appease or or or 

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or avoid or pray. 
They don't get zapped in some 

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fatalistic belief system. 
A law is not that way. 

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Hinduism would not be that way. 
Buddhism is not that way. 

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Islam, Judaism, they're all 
works. 

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Righteousness. 
That's what makes Christianity 

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the truth. 
It's because of who this God 

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really is and the way he 
interacts with us. 

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And he doesn't have to. 
He didn't need to for him, but 

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he sure needed to for us. 
And that's his love and his 

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grace. 
So how do we share in some of 

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this, which is what this series 
will be about? 

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The theologian Millard Erickson,
who wrote a very thick book that

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I once had to read all of says 
this. 

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He says being created in the 
image of God, man also has an 

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eternal dimension. 
And that is part of this image 

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of God idea. 
Not all of it, but part of being

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created in the image of God is 
the fact that we will have 

454
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,600
eternal life. 
And one of the things that we 

455
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560
all, we, we often don't think 
about, and I need you to chew on

456
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,440
for a moment because I have, I 
have debated this with people, 

457
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,520
is all of humanity will exist 
eternally according to 

458
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Scripture. 
And that's something we don't 

459
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,920
always think about. 
We are not annihilationists. 

460
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Now let me talk about that for a
second. 

461
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,280
We're going to talk more about 
that when we talk about hell 

462
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,840
later. 
Annihilationism, I mentioned it 

463
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520
in our theological series, 
probably this summer. 

464
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,080
Annihilationism is where you 
believe that people go to hell, 

465
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,840
but that hell is short term. 
So they go to hell, they burn up

466
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,160
and they're gone and they cease 
to exist. 

467
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520
So they get thrown in the lake 
of fire, they burn up and 

468
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,760
they're gone. 
I once had in a church I 

469
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,000
pastored, a 200 something year 
old church that I pastored. 

470
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,560
I had a senior adult man who 
taught a senior adult Bible 

471
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,280
study and he was 
annihilationist. 

472
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,480
I learned and he taught 
annihilationism in the in the 

473
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Sunday school class basically. 
And so I called him in and we 

474
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480
had to have a long conversation.
So I prepared a pretty lengthy 

475
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560
document on here. 
You ready for the title? 

476
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,840
This will sound like almost like
I went to school. 

477
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,880
You know, the eternality of, of 
punishment, right? 

478
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Because one of the things that 
I'm going to say again in future

479
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,040
sessions is you. 
You can't have an eternal heaven

480
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,000
without an eternal hell. 
Jesus used exactly the same 

481
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080
words in original language for 
both. 

482
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560
And so hell is just as eternal 
as heaven. 

483
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,880
And yet there's a a percentage 
of American population, even 

484
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,080
among the evangelical church, 
they like heaven, they don't 

485
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,800
like hell. 
And so from an emotional 

486
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040
standpoint of God and the 
problem of evil, why would a 

487
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,440
good God send somebody to hell? 
Which we're going to talk about 

488
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400
all that, I promise. 
So if you have those questions, 

489
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,120
you need to keep coming. 
But in that frame, there's no 

490
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,760
way this could really last 
forever. 

491
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,200
And so you've got to understand 
that everybody now listen to me 

492
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,880
it and and I'm going to I'll, 
I'll rephrase this and, and put 

493
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,720
this in its right place in 
future sessions. 

494
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,440
So don't throw rocks at me 
tonight. 

495
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,960
In this session, everybody's 
going to receive a special body 

496
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,600
so that it can endure. 
OK, We talked about resurrected 

497
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,800
bodies for believers, but you 
got to understand that everybody

498
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,200
is going to receive the special 
ability to be tormented forever 

499
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720
in hell as well. 
And not everybody but those who 

500
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,720
don't believe. 
And, and that's something that 

501
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,200
people often don't think about. 
Well, there's no way. 

502
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
There's no way the body would 
quit thinking about this. 

503
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,720
Quit. 
You're living in Chronos. 

504
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Quit living in Chronos. 
That's not eternity. 

505
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,480
Eternity works on K Rock Kyros. 
And so there's going to be 

506
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,760
eternal bodies for people in 
hell too, and it's going to last

507
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,160
forever. 
It doesn't mean it saves them 

508
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,120
from the pain or the torment, 
and I'll talk a little bit about

509
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,800
that on Sunday. 
As far as why God takes sins, so

510
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,120
much more so in a week or so 
when we get to Romans, the end 

511
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880
of Romans one and two, where he 
talks about God's wrath. 

512
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,600
So, but specifically in the new 
heaven and new earth, which are 

513
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,480
yet to come. 
Another question exists, and 

514
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,680
some of you will have strong 
opinions about this because I 

515
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,720
know your fascination with 
eschatology. 

516
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,440
I'm very familiar. 
Will time still exist in the new

517
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,840
heaven and the new earth? 
And many say no. 

518
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,640
In fact, there's an old hymn, 
you know it, when the trumpet of

519
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,320
the Lord shall sound, and time 
shall be no more, right. 

520
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,080
And we also read in Scripture, 
for example, Revelation chapter 

521
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,680
21. 
Some of you are delighted. 

522
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,960
I'm actually in Revelation. 
I'm studying Revelation verse by

523
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,280
verse in the mornings along with
numbers because of course those 

524
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,680
2GO hand in hand. 
Who knows that's what I'm doing 

525
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,960
though. 
So Revelation 21 says and the 

526
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,280
city has no need of sun or moon 
to shine on it, for the glory of

527
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,840
God gives it light and it's lamp
is the Lamb and it's gates. 

528
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,400
This verse 25 and it's gates 
will never shut, be shut by day 

529
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,600
and there will be no night 
there. 

530
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,920
And then Revelation 22 five and 
night will be no more. 

531
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,640
They will need no light of lamp 
or sun for the Lord God will be 

532
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880
their light and they will reign 
forever and ever. 

533
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:39,120
So no sun, no moon, no night. 
So, so so not the same kind of 

534
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,760
Kronos time that we would 
experience here for sure. 

535
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,560
So we know it's different, at 
least it's different. 

536
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,080
But we do see in heaven in the 
descriptions of heaven in the 

537
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Bible that there are series of 
events. 

538
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Some things happen first, some 
things happen next, some things 

539
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,160
happen next. 
So there is a version of time. 

540
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
It's just a very different 
version of time. 

541
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,880
And so I, I won't say there'll 
be no time, but I will say that 

542
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,600
it's going to be God's time and 
very different from what we 

543
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,560
experience now. 
And we're going to talk a whole 

544
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960
lot more specifically about each
one of those things. 

545
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,120
I promise in the days ahead, 
what it exactly is going to 

546
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,520
happen in heaven and those 
orders, we're going to hit all 

547
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,720
that. 
So we're going to experience 

548
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,520
eternal life, but not in this 
exact duplication of God's 

549
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,400
attribute of eternality. 
Does that make sense? 

550
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,040
We're still not God in our 
eternal life. 

551
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,840
We're still not God. 
We're not. 

552
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,800
We're not of a part of a group. 
The LDS church kind of believes 

553
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,520
our branches of them believe 
that we get to become gods. 

554
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280
We don't. 
We don't get to become gods. 

555
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,160
So if that disappoints you and 
you want to turn in your 

556
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:54,840
membership badge, just remember 
Chucky T at Englewood Baptist 

557
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,120
dot com. 
If Gene Davis hears me, he will 

558
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,960
actually create that e-mail 
address. 

559
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,760
There is AC Taylor now I've been
told. 

560
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
I don't know if you even know 
that, but there is AC Taylor 

561
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,520
now. 
I've been told so anyway, I 

562
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,240
don't know what's in there. 
Don't want to know, don't want 

563
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,520
to look, but it won't be exactly
the same. 

564
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,120
In other words, we're not going 
to become God in terms of His 

565
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,120
attributes, but we're certainly 
going to experience the duration

566
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,360
of time that will never end. 
That's a fact. 

567
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,280
We know that for sure. 
In fact, listen to an 

568
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080
interesting verse. 
It's kind of hard to understand 

569
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,040
sometimes, frankly. 
I preached A sermon series out 

570
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,040
of Ecclesiastes a few years ago 
and and it was the first time 

571
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,320
I'd ever done that. 
I don't know why I enjoyed it. 

572
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,440
We did that at a large church 
where I was an interim pastor 

573
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960
and it spent the summer in 
Ecclesiastes. 

574
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,560
And I had, I had several 
seminary professors in that 

575
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,360
church and we were talking 
through it because at times it 

576
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,960
can be a little bit of a 
complicated book. 

577
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,480
I mean, I the basic jest is 
there, but listen to 

578
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,000
Ecclesiastes chapter 3, verse 
11. 

579
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,880
He has made everything beautiful
in it's time. 

580
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Also, he has put eternity into 
man's heart yet so that he 

581
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,040
cannot find out what God has 
done from the beginning to the 

582
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,320
end. 
So even though we have and, and 

583
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520
when we get to a sermon or so 
into Romans, we're going to talk

584
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,360
about general revelation again 
and the fact that there's this 

585
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,400
innate sense in man that a God 
exists, creator exists, that 

586
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,639
something beyond him exists. 
Every single culture has some 

587
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:34,600
version of worship, for example.
It's a pretty steady trademark 

588
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,760
of the definition of culture. 
And so it's hard to understand 

589
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,920
that that even though humans 
have this innate sense of life 

590
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,639
beyond themselves or a being 
beyond themselves, we cannot 

591
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:50,360
understand the greatness. 
We can't wrap our heads around 

592
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,800
the eternity of God himself or, 
or the scope of his creativity 

593
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,200
or the way in which he will 
bring time that our Cronos time,

594
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:05,920
our timeline to a close. 
And so it's an amazing thing 

595
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,320
beyond us to a large degree that
we still don't understand. 

596
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,080
And so it's hard to understand 
these things. 

597
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120
But eternal life in the New 
Testament eliminates the 

598
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,040
boundary line of death. 
But death is still a foe. 

599
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:25,520
It's still something that we 
fight here at times, but the one

600
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,080
who has eternal life already 
experiences the kind of 

601
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,640
existence that will never end. 
And that's an important part 

602
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,400
that I want to camp upon for a 
moment. 

603
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,280
And I'm actually going to camp 
in a in the shortest verse I 

604
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,720
could possibly find. 
And that's John 647. 

605
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,720
I was actually criticized not 
long ago for my belief about 

606
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,400
salvation, which I found 
interesting. 

607
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,600
And I look forward to the 
conversation I pray that I get 

608
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,640
to have with the individual who 
criticized me. 

609
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400
But mine's a pretty orthodox 
biblical view. 

610
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,960
His was not. 
But anyway, in John 647, it says

611
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,760
truly, truly. 
I say to you, whoever believes 

612
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,520
has eternal life. 
And I really need us to grasp 

613
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,640
this. 
So as I've shared with you about

614
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,640
462 times, Tim Luper's keeping 
track. 

615
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,520
So this would be 463. 
Tim looks at me like, what are 

616
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,040
you talking? 
So he's like that puffer fish up

617
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,800
there. 
It's like, what? 

618
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Thank you, Tim. 
Thank you. 

619
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,360
You're you're you're your 
servant always. 

620
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,040
Yeah. 
And you really are. 

621
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,600
You're a blessing. 
So Jesus is speaking here and 

622
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,040
whoever, whoever piste owes. 
And I've I've shared this word 

623
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,840
with you over and over again, 
but I need you. 

624
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,160
I really need you to grab it and
understand this because as 

625
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
you're sharing the gospel, which
we're going to be hitting heavy 

626
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,680
in Romans, the whole book's 
about the gospel. 

627
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,600
And so as we're sharing with 
others, we need to understand 

628
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,720
this part of it explicitly. 
So this verb, I wish we didn't, 

629
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,680
I wish we didn't translate it 
the way we did. 

630
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,640
That's, and it's very common in 
almost all your translations, 

631
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,160
they have the word believe or 
something like believeth or 

632
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,000
something, because this word is 
simply the verb form of the noun

633
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,880
for faith. 
So the noun for faith is pistas.

634
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,960
And so peste uo is simply in 
Greek, you add, think of a 

635
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360
prefix or suffix that you don't 
call them that, but that's the 

636
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,080
best way to think about it. 
You had some prefix or suffixes 

637
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,240
in there and suddenly it's a 
verb. 

638
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,760
It's not a noun anymore. 
And so the word believes 

639
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,480
wherever you see it almost 100% 
of the time. 

640
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,360
There were a couple of 
exceptions, John 316's the same 

641
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,920
many, many verses that have the 
word believes in. 

642
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,880
It's always the same word. 
And this word peste uo, which is

643
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,720
a very common normal verb in 
Greek, it means to, it means to 

644
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,040
faith. 
And so I, what I really wish 

645
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,280
this verse said is whoever 
faiths has eternal life or, or 

646
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,480
whosoever faiths in him would 
have eternal life because it 

647
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,720
emphasizes this need for faith, 
right? 

648
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,040
And so the idea here is, is that
I am faithing in God. 

649
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,440
So the word pissed us then, 
which means I got to back up. 

650
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,600
And of course, So what does that
mean? 

651
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,080
What does that word mean? 
Right. 

652
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Well, the noun for faith doesn't
just mean believe. 

653
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,600
And that's where this English 
word throws us. 

654
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Because when we use the word 
believe today, often times we're

655
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,640
thinking of a mental exercise. 
You know, I believe something. 

656
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,360
I know something in my brain and
that gets people in trouble and 

657
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,320
that messes people up. 
We have people who think they're

658
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Christians who aren't 
Christians. 

659
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520
We have people who don't 
understand salvation because of 

660
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,360
this and, and all kinds of mess.
And so we've really got to 

661
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,360
understand, and I shared about 
this in sermons about salvation 

662
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,560
before. 
And but the word pistas for 

663
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,800
faith means to depend upon it 
means to trust, It means 

664
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,920
literally to put your whole 
weight on something. 

665
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,520
You know the old chair 
illustration where I sit in the 

666
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,960
chair, right? 
And I put my whole weight in the

667
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,480
chair. 
And for me, that's significant. 

668
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,080
In fact, this week I was 
watching some of the chair 

669
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,160
exercises and Charles, I think 
we only had to throw away four 

670
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,920
or five chairs with four. 
OK. 

671
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
So bless you all's heart. 
Some of you might want to do 

672
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,640
that more. 
But anyway, so, so I have no 

673
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:38,800
idea whatsoever what I'm talking
about, but but this idea that I 

674
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,560
can study this chair, I can 
believe in this chair. 

675
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,160
I, I can study the tensile 
strength of the metal. 

676
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,320
I can understand the cushion, I 
can understand the fabric. 

677
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000
I can know the company who made 
it. 

678
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,880
I can understand the little man 
in Taiwan who made every single 

679
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,080
screw that went into that chair 
and the kind of metal he used. 

680
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,600
I I can understand this chair is
rated to hold up X number of 

681
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,720
pounds. 
I can study every, I can go to 

682
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,400
Amazon, read the whole product 
description. 

683
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,080
I can get it all down in my 
brain. 

684
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,440
That's not Pistas, that's 
knowledge. 

685
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,520
It's not an important. 
It's good to know those things. 

686
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120
It's important to know all the 
facts about Jesus, isn't it? 

687
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,080
We're going to talk about that 
extensively in our Roman study. 

688
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,240
What all did Jesus do? 
What is this thing called the 

689
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:27,280
gospel? 
Paul's going to talk about every

690
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,480
facet of it. 
And so I need to know those 

691
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080
things. 
Jesus was born in who Jesus is. 

692
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,760
I need to know that. 
And Incarnate God, he's, he died

693
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,920
on a cross. 
I need to know that. 

694
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,040
And he rose again. 
I need to know these things. 

695
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,800
But that alone is not going to 
save me. 

696
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,880
We're saved by what? 
Through what, right. 

697
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,280
So it's this incredible 
combination of this incredible 

698
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,000
free gift of God, of grace that 
he gives to us. 

699
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,720
And then there's this, this 
aspect of faith that has to be a

700
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,080
part of the experience. 
Now, some would argue that God 

701
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120
has to give me the faith to 
believe in him. 

702
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Romans, you can see it almost, 
it's like a gifting. 

703
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,600
And so if and if the more 
reformed you are, the more 

704
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,880
you're going to lean in that 
direction to where I can't even 

705
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,680
muster up the faith. 
God has to give me the faith or 

706
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,160
I can be over here a little more
to where I'm the one who's 

707
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,840
believing and trusting in him. 
And some people say that's a 

708
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,240
work. 
So there's this weird 

709
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,360
counterbalance between the two. 
Are y'all tracking with any of 

710
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,760
this somewhere in here? 
It's the truth. 

711
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,680
In His nature of love, He gave 
me free will. 

712
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120
In His nature of holiness, He 
demands a price. 

713
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,280
And I have to work through that 
with Him. 

714
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,840
And so the Holy Spirit's helping
me. 

715
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,200
I have no problem saying the 
Holy Spirit's drawing me to Him,

716
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,440
the Holy Spirit's convicting me 
of him, the Holy Spirit's 

717
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,480
helping me to believe. 
I have no problem with those 

718
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,600
words. 
But in the end, I have to faith,

719
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,960
I have to, I have to put my, put
my whole weight on him and lift 

720
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,760
my feet up in the air and 
recognize that he alone can hold

721
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,920
me. 
I've used the illustration 

722
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,800
before of repelling. 
I used to repel off of 

723
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,720
mountains. 
I know it's a big rope, but 

724
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,480
anyway, so, so we used to go 
repelling, we used to go hiking 

725
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,360
and we'd go repelling off of 
these cliffs. 

726
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,440
And, and the first time you ever
do that, some of you who are 

727
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,800
first responders or military, 
you know what I'm talking about.

728
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,720
Your first time you lean back on
that rope and that rope 

729
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:27,560
stretches and you can hear it 
stretch and you can hear that 

730
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,480
knot tightening up and the 
webbing or the harness that you 

731
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
have on us tightening up. 
And you're not real sure of that

732
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,960
between you and those 150 feet 
down on those rocks, whether 

733
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,920
that ropes going to work or not.
But you got to put your whole 

734
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,560
weight on it. 
You got to put your whole weight

735
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,080
and that and that's what this 
is. 

736
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,560
So that that's not even my point
tonight. 

737
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,080
I just thought that was good to 
throw in. 

738
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Is that OK? 
So that has to happen. 

739
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,240
If you're here tonight and 
you've never done that part, you

740
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,600
need to come see me or Charles 
after this thing's over with, 

741
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,720
and let's talk to you about 
that. 

742
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,360
I want you to see the verb, that
little bitty verb in John 647. 

743
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,880
It says who? 
Truly, truly. 

744
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:14,800
I say to you, whoever believes 
has, What tense is that present?

745
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,200
Now? 
I want us to grasp that. 

746
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,240
I know some of you know this. 
I know you, you, you cognitively

747
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,400
get this. 
I want you to embrace this. 

748
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,960
If you have trusted in Jesus 
Christ as your Lord and Savior, 

749
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,040
if you have depended upon him, 
if you've faith in him, if 

750
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,760
you've done what you need to do 
to be saved, you are eternal and

751
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,120
you have eternal life now. 
And so this isn't just about 

752
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,560
heaven. 
This isn't just about later 

753
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,240
after death. 
We're going to talk about what 

754
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,720
happens at the moment that you 
die. 

755
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
We're going to talk about that. 
We're going to talk about what 

756
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,800
happens, what heaven looks like,
the best we can muster up with 

757
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640
our finite languages that we try
to muster up. 

758
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,840
We're going to talk about who's 
there and who's not. 

759
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,200
And we're going to talk about 
hell. 

760
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,400
We're going to talk about 
SHIELD. 

761
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,640
We're going to talk about Hades.
We're going to talk about hell. 

762
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,520
We're going to talk about all 
that stuff, but your eternal 

763
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,560
life begins with Christ right 
here, right now. 

764
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:11,040
And so we're supposed to be 
living right now like we're 

765
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,920
there. 
You need to start living more in

766
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Kairos than Kronos. 
Makes sense Now I'm trapped. 

767
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
I'm trapped in chronic. 
I mean, I used to have hair. 

768
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000
I did. 
I used to be beautiful. 

769
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,160
I mean, I mean, telling you MUI 
guapo, I'm, I'm telling you just

770
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:41,480
just beautiful. 
Maybe not quite that, but time. 

771
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,120
I'm a part of a creation that's 
decaying. 

772
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,400
I'm part of a creation that's 
groaning. 

773
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:57,680
I mean, you can feel it in the 
morning, but spiritually, I need

774
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,760
to believe I'm living in Kairos.
I, I, I need to transcend this 

775
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,640
more. 
You understand what I'm saying, 

776
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,520
that this place doesn't need to 
drag me down that much. 

777
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,600
We're beyond it. 
I can't escape its effect. 

778
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,880
I, I can't escape all its 
pressures. 

779
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,880
But in my heart of hearts and my
prayer and my time with God, I 

780
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,280
can recognize this stuff can't 
really touch me. 

781
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,480
When I die, I'll be more alive 
than I've ever been. 

782
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,440
I'll be free from a vessel of 
clay. 

783
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,440
And this groaning, this 
temporary affliction does not 

784
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,440
compare to the eternal way to 
glory. 

785
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,640
And so the problem with that is,
is that's a good thing to say at

786
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,520
a funeral, right? 
But we need to be living that 

787
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,720
now. 
That's needs to be our attitude 

788
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,720
toward one another. 
That needs to be attitude toward

789
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:00,120
the people who don't know about 
it. 

790
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,600
That needs to be our attitude 
toward him. 

791
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,560
I, I want others to experience 
that too. 

792
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,720
I want others to know him and to
experience him. 

793
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,760
So let me read to you a section.
I hope you can track with this 

794
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,240
from CS Lewis. 
Some of you have read Lewis, 

795
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:22,920
Some of you never have. 
Sometimes reading Lewis can be a

796
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:30,280
little complicated, but in his 
book The Screw Tape Letters, the

797
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,360
Demon Screw Tape is writing to 
his nephew Wormwood, who's a 

798
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,360
demon who tempts people so 
recognize that good is bad and 

799
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,280
bad is good in the language 
they're using. 

800
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,040
So when he talks about somebody 
being the enemy, he means Jesus 

801
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:52,800
or God. 
He says you being a spirit, will

802
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,280
find it difficult to understand 
how he gets into this confusion.

803
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,920
So he's talking about the fact 
that this demon is assigned to a

804
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,520
person and he's supposed to mess
that person up. 

805
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,720
That's what he's supposed to be 
doing. 

806
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,480
That's the idea between Lewis's 
work. 

807
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,400
But you must remember that he 
takes time for an ultimate 

808
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,360
reality. 
He supposes that the enemy God, 

809
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,320
like himself, sees some things 
as present, remembers others his

810
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,320
past, and anticipates others his
future. 

811
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,720
Or even if he believes that the 
enemy once again Jesus or God, 

812
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:32,240
does not see things that way, 
yet in his heart of hearts he 

813
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:36,200
regards this as a peculiarity of
the enemy's mode of perception. 

814
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,640
He doesn't really think, though 
he would say he did, that things

815
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,760
as the enemy sees them are 
things as they are. 

816
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,000
So if you tried to explain to 
him that men's prayers today are

817
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,920
one of the innumerable 
coordinates with which the enemy

818
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,080
harmonizes the weather of 
tomorrow. 

819
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,760
In other words, how you know, as
we pray to God for the weather, 

820
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,720
does God actually work? 
He would reply that then that 

821
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:06,720
the enemy always knew men were 
going to make those prayers, and

822
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:10,200
if so, they did not pray freely.
But we're predestined to do so. 

823
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,800
And he would add that the 
weather on a given day can can 

824
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,640
be traced back to through his 
causes to the original creation 

825
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,080
of matter itself. 
So that the whole thing, both on

826
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,400
the human and on the material 
side is is given from the word 

827
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,720
go. 
In other words, he's arguing the

828
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:30,720
fact that man has no freedom. 
Man is completely controlled and

829
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,160
he has no free will. 
And all this is just what the 

830
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:39,960
enemy God forces to have happen.
Keep listening for a minute. 

831
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,000
You don't have to agree with 
Louis, but listen to him. 

832
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,480
What he ought to say, of course,
is obvious to us that the 

833
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,920
problem of adapting the 
particular weather to the 

834
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,640
particular prayers is merely the
appearance at 2 points in his 

835
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,000
temporal mode of perception. 
In other words, it's just a 

836
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,600
coincidence of the total problem
adapting the whole spiritual 

837
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,720
universe to the whole corporal 
universe. 

838
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,320
So the physical and the 
spiritual together that creation

839
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,160
into in its entirety operates at
every point of space and time. 

840
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Or rather that their kind of 
consciousness forces them to 

841
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,560
encounter the whole self 
consistent creative act as a 

842
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,240
series of successive events. 
Just bear with me. 

843
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,320
Why that creative act leaves 
room for their free will. 

844
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,240
Is the problem of problems. 
The secret behind the enemy's 

845
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:32,000
nonsense, God's nonsense about 
love. 

846
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,840
How it does so is no problem at 
all. 

847
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,200
For the enemy does not foresee 
the humans making their free 

848
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,840
contributions in the future, but
sees them doing so. 

849
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,920
And his unbounded now. 
Now listen to this last line. 

850
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,040
He didn't get anything else. 
Get this. 

851
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,080
And obviously, to watch a man 
doing something is not to make 

852
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,800
him do it. 
So this last bit. 

853
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,800
And now here's the really hard 
word for you. 

854
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,720
There will be no test, by the 
way, no pop quiz is This is the 

855
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,000
idea of irreversible 
predestination. 

856
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,240
There you go. 
In other words, God doesn't 

857
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,440
foresee the humans making their 
free contributions in the 

858
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,680
future, but sees them doing so 
and is unbounded now. 

859
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,040
And obviously, as that last 
sentence goes, to watch a man 

860
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,080
doing something is not to make 
him do it. 

861
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,960
So that words God already knows.
Here's the bottom line. 

862
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,720
In his love, pretty amazing. 
Don't understand it? 

863
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,080
It's pretty mysterious. 
Take some faith. 

864
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,640
But in his love for us, He's 
allowing us to live in Cronos 

865
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,400
and He allows us to make 
decisions. 

866
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:53,480
He allows us to do smart things 
and we also do dumb things. 

867
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,720
And he already knew we were 
going to do those things. 

868
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,520
He sees them all and is 
unbounded now, but that doesn't 

869
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
mean that every one of those 
things is predestined. 

870
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,920
And I have no choice. 
This is the balance. 

871
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,240
We still have free will in the 
Chronos. 

872
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,720
He's watching us. 
He knows about it. 

873
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Does God already know who's 
going to heaven and hell? 

874
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Yes. 
Does that mean that nobody has 

875
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,440
any hope or choice? 
No. 

876
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,160
And that's the incredible 
balance of grace and that we're 

877
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:31,360
living in this freedom to even 
mess up, to even reject him 

878
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,360
because he loves us that much to
allow us to do that. 

879
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:41,480
So let me read one last thing 
and I'll start winding this up. 

880
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,800
This is more Lewis, just for a 
second. 

881
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,640
We this the last time I'll read 
CS Lewis. 

882
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,440
You'd be all right, All right. 
We must begin to correct the 

883
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,000
admittedly, admittedly false 
picture of Providence which we 

884
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,760
have hitherto been using. 
That picture, you will remember,

885
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,080
was false because it represented
God and nature as inhabiting 

886
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,040
common time. 
They don't. 

887
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,120
So in other words, the physical 
and God don't inhabit the same 

888
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,880
kind of time. 
We've been talking about that. 

889
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,480
But it is probable that nature 
is not really in time, and 

890
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,440
almost certain that God is not. 
This is some conjecture by 

891
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,240
Lewis. 
Time is probably the mode of our

892
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,360
perception. 
There is therefore in reality no

893
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,000
question of God's at one point 
in time, the moment of creation,

894
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,720
adapting the material history of
the universe in advance to free 

895
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:31,480
acts which you or I are to 
perform at a later point in 

896
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,600
time. 
Get this sentence. 

897
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,200
You'll get this one. 
To Him, all the physical events 

898
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,960
and all the human acts are 
present in an eternal now. 

899
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,640
The liberation of finite wills 
and the creation of the whole 

900
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,280
material history of the universe
related to the acts of those 

901
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,040
wills and all the necessary 
complexity is to Him a single 

902
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,040
operation. 
In this sense, God did not 

903
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,440
create the universe long ago, 
but creates it at this minute, 

904
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:13,280
at every minute in Kairos. 
So in other words, He has given 

905
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,520
us this ability. 
Now. 

906
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,760
Gang, you got to understand 
this. 

907
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,160
This a gift. 
I say it, and I'm not sure it 

908
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,800
clicks. 
We don't deserve to exist. 

909
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,360
We did nothing to exist. 
We exist by grace. 

910
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:36,760
This world exists by grace. 
We're able to breathe and have a

911
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,320
heartbeat because of grace. 
And within that amazing 

912
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:47,400
timeline, we also have the 
ability to choose or to reject, 

913
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,600
to claim him or to deny him. 
And over the years, I've met 

914
00:53:53,600 --> 00:54:00,800
people who've done both. 
But I'm thankful that sitting on

915
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:07,840
the throne, and we're going to 
talk about that is a sovereign 

916
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:14,280
God who already knows. 
So when he gives us verses like 

917
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,920
I'm not going to give you more 
than you can handle, I'm not 

918
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,560
going to allow you to be tempted
more than you can take, it's 

919
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,720
because He already knows. 
He knows you. 

920
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,600
He knows you better than you 
know you. 

921
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,200
He knows He knows what your 
tomorrow's going to have. 

922
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,720
You don't know what's going to 
happen to you 10 seconds from 

923
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:37,800
now. 
You live in an extremely fragile

924
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:43,920
state on the line. 
But then again, maybe it's not 

925
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:50,520
fragile at all because we sit in
the hands of a sovereign God who

926
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,880
loves us, who takes care of us. 
And here's the amazing thing 

927
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,120
that we're going to talk about 
in the future sessions. 

928
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:05,120
He's even created a place for us
to go to live with him forever. 

929
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Now, in the meantime, here on 
the Kronos, here on the line, we

930
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,720
got work to do, we got things to
put together. 

931
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,280
We got people to tell, we got 
people to share, we got people 

932
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:27,760
to teach because we want as many
people to be there with us. 

933
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,480
And if you don't care about 
that, you're missing the heart 

934
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,560
of God. 
You really are because that the 

935
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,920
whole reason he did all of this 
in the 1st place, the whole 

936
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,000
reason he fashioned all of this,
the whole reason he's watching 

937
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:51,440
over it all at once all the time
is so that we could know Him and

938
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,960
bring him great glory. 
And so he wants as many people, 

939
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,840
He wants the nation's to know 
him. 

940
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,520
He wants everybody to know him 
so that we can share together. 

941
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,680
You know, part of my testimony 
that I didn't share too well, I,

942
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,400
I have regretted several parts 
of that. 

943
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,440
Number one, the one thing I'd 
want to say, and I shared this 

944
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,440
at a breakfast the other day, 
but I want to say this on a 

945
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Wednesday night because I shared
it initially on a Wednesday 

946
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,520
night is before my parents died.
They're both saved, They're in 

947
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,880
heaven. 
And I didn't get to say I forgot

948
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,720
to say that was a dumb thing to 
leave out. 

949
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:35,680
But part of my part of my early 
spiritual walk was just as dumb.

950
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,640
So I'm saved, but I'm not 
baptized yet. 

951
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,800
I mean, this is foreign to me. 
You can understand church is 

952
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,920
foreign. 
We don't, you know, I don't, I 

953
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,600
didn't understand how all that 
stuff worked. 

954
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,000
And so I, I the guy who led me 
to the Lord's Baptist. 

955
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,200
And so I'm I'm going to the 
Baptist Church and my best 

956
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,880
friend, Jay Bird Buffalo meet 
Yahoo once a week. 

957
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Wahoo young. 
So we remember where we were 

958
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,200
raised. 
He, he's accepted Christ and 

959
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,280
we're standing there. 
We're both tall. 

960
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,080
I mean, I was just tall when I 
was 14, you know. 

961
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,800
And so we're standing there 
together and he, he, he's 

962
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,280
elbowing me during the 
invitation at First Baptist. 

963
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,960
And he's go, we need to go down 
front. 

964
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,160
We need to go down front. 
We need to go get baptized. 

965
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,800
And I literally physically grab 
him. 

966
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,320
And I say, that wouldn't be 
cool. 

967
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,760
And I I physically stop him from
walking out into the aisle to go

968
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,080
forward to be baptized. 
I'm Dumber than a rock. 

969
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,880
Well, I should have known what 
my next week was going to be 

970
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:47,000
like. 
He's on me every day and he and 

971
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,840
God's on me every day. 
And I promise that that next 

972
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:56,240
Sunday morning, I beat him to 
the punch and I was John out 

973
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,080
running Peter to that, down that
down that aisle to do what I 

974
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:06,640
knew God wanted us to do. 
I'm thankful for chances. 

975
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,000
I'm thankful for grace. 
I'm thankful for the way he 

976
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,800
watches over us. 
So take comfort. 

977
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,040
You're never alone. 
You're never unwatched. 

978
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,120
You never, you're never not 
cared for. 

979
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,440
You're never not loved, no 
matter what you think of 

980
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,000
yourself, no matter what you 
think other people think of you,

981
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,720
you've got an eternal Father. 
He's on a whole different 

982
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,040
wavelength. 
And take joy in that. 

983
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,560
Now, we're also going to talk 
about the fact that He hates 

984
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,720
your sin. 
We're going to do that in a 

985
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,680
couple weeks. 
In Romans. 

986
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,840
I mean, we got to talk about 
God's wrath. 

987
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,160
That's a word that people don't 
like in our culture today, but 

988
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,400
we'll get there. 
So thank you all for tonight. 

989
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Let's pray, Father, we're 
grateful. 

990
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,960
We're grateful that we don't 
have to try to figure all this 

991
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,240
out on our own. 
I know tonight, Father might 

992
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,760
have been a little little 
redundant or much, but Father, I

993
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,240
just wanted to make sure we, we 
took a session and acknowledged 

994
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,840
who you were and your 
relationship to eternity before 

995
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,320
we just dive in to talk about 
what we want out of it, what we 

996
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,000
get out of it. 
I wanted us to talk about what 

997
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,120
you put into it. 
So Father, thank you for 

998
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,680
creating. 
Thank you, Father, for for 

999
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:39,160
providing an opportunity for us 
to even know that you exist, a 

1000
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,080
way for us to know you and to 
have fellowship with you and a 

1001
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,440
relationship with you. 
And I pray, Father, that that 

1002
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,360
relationship just deepens as our
discipleship grows. 

1003
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,680
But Father, also pray that we're
very careful to be aware that 

1004
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,840
you didn't do that just so that 
we could keep it to ourselves. 

1005
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:06,520
But Father, you've blessed us 
with a gift of grace so that we 

1006
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,920
can bless others by telling them
about your gift. 

1007
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,520
Now, Father, if there's someone 
in here physically in this 

1008
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:19,640
session or someone listening to 
this online right now and they 

1009
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,240
have to acknowledge they've 
never. 

1010
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,240
They've never faith in you. 
They've never put their whole 

1011
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,240
weight into what Jesus has done 
for them. 

1012
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,640
The Father, they would come and 
talk to us, contact us, reach 

1013
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,920
out to us so that we might know 
how to help them, just to know 

1014
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,720
you. 
Thank you for the opportunity to

1015
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,560
know you. 
Thank you, Father, that you're 

1016
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,000
watching over us carefully and 
you're going to guide us and 

1017
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,320
you're going to bless us in 
Christ's name, Amen. 

1018
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,520
God bless you all. 
Thank you so much for being 

1019
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,200
here. 
Thank you so much for listening 

1020
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,800
today. 
And I also hope that you'll go 

1021
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040
to 
ourwebsite@englewoodbaptist.com 

1022
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,080
as well as our app and find many
other resources that will bless 

1023
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,280
you and your families. 
Thank you once again.