1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,040 Hey everybody, this is Pastor John Ewart from Inglewood 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,920 Baptist Church in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Thank you so much for tuning into our podcast. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,320 You're going to hear from God today as we share from his word 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,120 about important issues facing your life that can guide you 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:22,360 according to the Bible. All right, So thank you all so 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,440 much for being here. Thank you for being in the room 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,080 here with us and those who are listening online, I want to say 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,560 upfront, please do not let the appearance of the handout, where 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,080 are you, scare you, bore you, or in some way thank that boy. 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,120 I don't want to even look at this because I'm telling you 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,080 this is a lot more exciting, a lot more important than you 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,200 might know. So it's going to be a very 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,800 important study and I'm going to talk about what's coming up. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,720 I'm also going to share for the very first time publicly, the 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,120 very first time publicly, the current total amount for the 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Happy Birthday Jesus offering. I will say this again on Sunday, 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,879 but we had, you know, we have a base need of about 174,000 to 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,680 just cover some basic things. We set a goal of 185 because we 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,840 have some new things happening this year. 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,600 We knew we were going to need that buffer. 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,160 So right now we have received $228,343.01. 23 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:25,040 So thank you so much for that and that really is a blessing 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 and it'll all be used. And that will also go on. 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,800 A portion of some of that will go on to the City of Refuge, as 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,440 well as to our Lottie Moon International Missions Fund, 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,600 which supports thousands of missionaries all around the 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,440 world. And then the Annie Armstrong 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,120 North American Missions Fund, which supports thousands of 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,280 North American church planters. So, so, so you're giving to 31 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:50,040 thousands of missions projects by by giving that way. 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,320 And we'll continue to talk about that and try to educate even 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,440 more about that. So we're, we're, we're in a, I'm 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,040 introducing a series called Engage the Bible. 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,360 This is one of our seven essentials of discipleship. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Tonight, I want to talk about how do I approach the Bible? 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,720 That may sound like a, a weird title, but let me let me let me 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,840 explain something to you. So here's what's coming up, 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,680 Here's what's coming up over the next several weeks, which I hope 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,840 will help make sense of why I've been doing what I've done for 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,880 these first couple of sessions. So over the next couple of 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,280 weeks. And you can also listen to some 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,640 podcasts that we're doing already that support some of 44 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,200 this as well. So next time we're together, 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,800 we're we're going to start diving into your actual personal 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,760 Bible study as well as your group Bible study. 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,240 In other words, how do I observe the text? 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,360 Now that may sound like a weird thing, but when I first read a 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,160 text, I read a portion of the Bible. 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,840 What do I need to be looking for? 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,000 What do I need to be trying to observe? 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,680 What, what do I need to take note of? 53 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,760 So we're going to be talking about that a lot next time. 54 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:57,600 Very, very practical. And then how do I interpret the 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,120 text? We'll be in a session after 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,040 that. So, so, so I've noticed all 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,680 these things. I've learned all these things. 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,720 So, so how do I interpret those things? 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Well, last session and this session are going to help us to 60 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,720 understand some of that interpretation. 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,600 Part 2. Then after that we're going to 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,200 talk about how I apply the text because if I don't do anything 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,600 with it, what good is it, right? So, so how does this actually 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,840 affect my life? And then eventually, how am I 65 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,080 going to this with somebody else? 66 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,320 So those are some of the things that we're going to talk about 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,520 very practically over the next couple of weeks. 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Last session was hilarious to me because I had been teaching a 69 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,000 PhD seminar all that day and was still recovering from the Super 70 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,920 flu. And at 729 at in the in the live 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,320 session, I was done. I mean, I was fried. 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,520 I leaned on this pulpit and I looked at my wife and I'm like, 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,760 am I going to make it for 30 more minutes? 74 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,520 So you got out early. Don't plan on that tonight. 75 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,840 So here we go. I feel much better so and 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,040 appreciate it. And I've been in some really 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,280 interesting meetings all day long. 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,480 So I'm fired up, charged up, maybe a little angry. 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,400 So here we go. No, been good. 80 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Been a good day, but we really do want to pray as just think 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,280 about this as I as I take my Bible. 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:18,600 I do, I do hope and and encourage prescribe that you 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,520 would pray that you would say God as I open your word reveal 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,120 to me what I need to learn today because what's what's really 85 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,840 fascinating to me and we'll talk a lot more about this at later 86 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:32,720 in some of the sessions too. What's fascinating about me. 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,400 I've read the whole Bible through more than once and I 88 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,440 know some of you have too. You certainly read certain 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,280 verses more than once, but it's always fascinating to me. 90 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:46,440 I can read the same verse for that 50th time. 91 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,520 And because of what's going on in life, because of where I am 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,320 in life, because of what's happening on it says something 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:58,080 to me, speaks to me in a new way or a contextual way or an 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,000 applicable way because of what I'm going through. 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,600 And that's because this is not just a book. 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,920 It's because this is living and active. 97 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,160 The Holy Spirit's working through the Word and helping us 98 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,160 to grasp it and and apply it. So it really is really 99 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 fascinating. So as you take that Bible in 100 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,720 your hand, I want you to pray God's reveal to me your word and 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,680 your will for this moment in my life. 102 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,680 What do I need right now out of John 316 or whatever that verse 103 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,320 is that you know by heart or you've seen a million times And, 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,280 and so, but first, let's talk a little more about how did I get 105 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:36,280 the text? We talked about this a little 106 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:39,000 bit last session, but tonight I want to talk. 107 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,480 I want to get to the point of talking about translations and 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,680 why do we choose the ones we do? Which ones should we choose? 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Some of you don't like the one I use. 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,360 And so and I remember you in my prayers, but it's OK. 111 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,160 So we're going to talk about that. 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,520 But you got to think about it before the invention of the 113 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,320 printing press. You just got to think about the 114 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:08,160 fact that before all that these things were hand copied and, 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,080 and, and that might not seem like a big deal if you're 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,320 thinking in English, but you ought to think in Hebrew. 117 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,080 And in the original Hebrew texts, you've got to understand 118 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,280 that they didn't have vowels and they didn't have. 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,440 So let me how do I describe this? 120 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:29,440 Some of you might be more familiar with a Japanese or 121 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Chinese character than you are a Hebrew one, but they're not 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,840 dissimilar in their appearance. So Hebrew would be a series of 123 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:41,760 squiggly lines and dots, and those dots represent vowel 124 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,440 sounds. But in the original Hebrew, 125 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,240 those weren't there. There were no, there was no 126 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,200 indention, there was no punctuation, there were no vowel 127 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,600 signs. So you had a series of 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,640 consonants in a block over and over again. 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,560 And of course in Hebrew you read from right to left. 130 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,360 And so it's just a series of blocks of letters. 131 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,800 So you can imagine it when you're hand copying this by some 132 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:13,120 kind of oil lamp light in some cave somewhere, how difficult it 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,440 would be to even come close to being accurate. 134 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,400 So one of the one of the great lessons that I want this session 135 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,080 to reinforce in your life is the miracle of the accuracy of the 136 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,720 word of God you hold in your hand. 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 And I'll prove it to you, I hope, before the night's over. 138 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,480 It's really amazing that you can have something in English and 139 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,360 for some of you, something in English. 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,560 You know, down here in, you know, in the South, it's 141 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,880 southern English even. I don't know what that meant, 142 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,280 but yeah, yeah, they did. So you have something in English 143 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,240 that you can hold in your hand. You even have multiple options 144 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,640 of English that you can choose from. 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,120 And some are better than others. Of course, the one I use is the 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,680 best, but so. But we're going to talk about 147 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 that. And so just recognize how 148 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,520 significant this really was. So, but before that invention 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,520 and, and, and also remembering, don't let this freak you out. 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,440 But we, you know, we don't have, and many of you know this, we 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,560 don't have any of the original manuscripts anymore. 152 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,640 There are also called autographs. 153 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,480 And so you'll see in writing the manuscripts or autographs. 154 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,840 In other words, the very first time somebody wrote what the 155 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,480 Holy Spirit was giving them on that papyrus. 156 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,280 We don't have those anymore. They're they're long gone. 157 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,080 It is fascinating over history, though. 158 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,039 And I'll tell you a couple of stories about how some of the 159 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:35,520 oldest manuscripts were actually found and saved, some in a 160 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,200 wastebasket in a monastery, others that had just been burned 161 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,559 and they pulled some out of the fire. 162 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,960 And so it's a, it's really interesting how the Bible came 163 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,960 about. So let's talk for a few minutes 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,680 about the Old Testament. Some of these things will be 165 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:52,280 familiar with you. Some of these things will not be 166 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,400 familiar to you. Some of these things you're not 167 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,240 going to care about one bit after tonight's over, but the 168 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Old Testament, what you see is you see about four sources to 169 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,520 study when you're talking about the development of the Old 170 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Testament in translation and what's called transmission, 171 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,120 which is that copying process. And so they're about four 172 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,480 sources, general sources to think about. 1 is what you would 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,320 just call the Hebrew text. The most famous one of those is 174 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,160 called the Masoretic text, which is often. 175 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,280 If I were to bring my Hebrew Bible in here to show you, it 176 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,000 would be based on the Masoretic text. 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Now you got to recognize it was created around 100 AD in a final 178 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,800 standardized edition. Now, that doesn't mean there 179 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,600 weren't things before that, but in a standardized edition with 180 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,960 what's called consonantal Hebrew, which means it's just 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,360 that block, block of, of consonants. 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Now, later, those punctuation Marks and vowel points were 183 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,800 added to help. And that was really, really 184 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,880 helpful when they were added. And they were added by scholars 185 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,760 who carefully, carefully, carefully analyzed the wording 186 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,040 that was being used. But in that original form of 187 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,200 Hebrew, you're dependent not only on the letters and the 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,640 words, but context to understand, OK, what what do we 189 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,400 mean here? So it's really a significant 190 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,680 study. And so these things were first 191 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:22,720 brought about and then you had several different versions that 192 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,440 came along that in these early days before the Dead Sea 193 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Scrolls. Now, once you get to what we 194 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,360 call the Qumran Dead Sea Scrolls text, you've got everything 195 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 changed. These were discovered in 1948. 196 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Some of you who have been to Israel have been to Qumran, 197 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,240 You've seen the caves where the the texts were actually found. 198 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,360 So the story goes that in 1948 a shepherd boy was mad at one of 199 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 his goats or sheep. He threw throws a rock in The 200 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,520 Cave the animal went into. He hears a crash and he goes in 201 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,280 there and they're these clay pots and he's broken one of them 202 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,560 open and inside of these old manuscripts that the Essenes 203 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,680 preserved. So during during a certain 204 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:13,320 period in Jewish history, some of you would know, you have 205 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,200 what's called the Maccabean revolt. 206 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,120 And so in the, in the Apocrypha that we talked about in the 207 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,680 last, last session, you'll have the book in the Maccabees in, in 208 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:24,120 the Catholic Bible. And there's nothing wrong with 209 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,160 the book of Maccabees. They're just history books. 210 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,600 There's nothing inspired about them. 211 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,440 They're just telling the story of the families that led the 212 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,720 revolts. You can, and if you ever go to 213 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,640 Masada or some of these places in Israel, you'll see evidences 214 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,160 of some of the revolt that happened with the S scenes were 215 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,440 a community that escaped all that and lived out in the 216 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,600 desert. Think about monk kind of 217 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:48,120 livelihood. It really wasn't, but kind of 218 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,040 like that. And they were preserving 219 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,480 scripture. They were copying it. 220 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:55,160 They hid it in the caves from the Romans and put them in clay 221 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,840 pots because of the dry, arid climate of the desert. 222 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,960 These fragments and these scrolls were preserved and, and 223 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,120 I'll talk more about them in a minute. 224 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,600 So, so as they come through, what we really see too is that 225 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,360 throughout the Old Testament history, you see these various 226 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,840 dominations. Even the Syrians when they came 227 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,480 in destroyed a lot of the, the, the testaments. 228 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,680 They, they destroyed a lot of the Scriptures. 229 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:30,000 And so apart from the Qumran writings, no manuscripts of Old 230 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Testament books before about the 9th century AD survived. 231 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,560 And so and so the the Dead Sea Scrolls were a big deal. 232 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,320 Now I'm going to hop ahead just for a second. 233 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Then I'm gonna hop back again. And I'll hop back over there 234 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,720 later because I like to hop. But sometimes the differences in 235 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,840 your translations, especially the older translations, Think 236 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 about translations prior to 1948. 237 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,840 King James, for example, we're based upon manuscripts that 238 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,160 weren't reinforced yet by the Dead Sea Scrolls. 239 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,600 But once they discovered these older manuscripts in the Dead 240 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Sea Scrolls, they're able to go back. 241 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,120 And earlier generally is always better. 242 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,840 The earlier you can get, the better the source. 243 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,080 And so later translations are actually able to use better 244 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Hebrew especially, and even some Greek manuscripts. 245 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,120 And so they're often perceived as being one's not wrong and 246 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,280 one's not right. One would just be more accurate 247 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,080 in some of his wording. And So what we see, and so 248 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:42,000 what's really amazing is is how how frankly, how good a 249 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,400 translation the King James is based upon the manuscripts they 250 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,440 used, it's still a good translation. 251 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,200 And even though they didn't have the very best earliest 252 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,160 manuscripts at that point. And so a lot of this is Indiana 253 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Jones archaeology talk, I know. So what happens then over the 254 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,080 years is that you see some, some earliest known versions of the 255 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,200 Old Testament and they have various names. 256 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,720 You'll see a lot of codex names. And so you have the, the, the 257 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,080 manuscript of the Prophets, which is from about 895. 258 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:17,440 And then there's an entire Old Testament, which is probably 259 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:25,280 the, the, the earliest known existing entire Old Testament is 260 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,640 the Leningrad Codex from around a year, a thousand, 1008. 261 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,480 And so you can see how far away and how, how new in a sense, 262 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 some of the manuscripts were that we have today. 263 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,360 But anyway, so then you have various fragments and, and you 264 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,320 just got to understand that that there could in in some of these 265 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,720 cases, like in one case that there's a in the rebuilding of 266 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,000 an old synagogue in Cairo, they found over 200,000 fragments of 267 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,280 the Old Testament. And when you talk about the Dead 268 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,360 Sea Scrolls, you're talking about thousands of fragments. 269 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,160 And so this isn't just big one big Longwell, that's really 270 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,440 nice. One big long 35 foot long scroll 271 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,040 they're dealing with with thousands of fragments. 272 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Some of you've seen pieces of that in museums, etcetera. 273 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,160 And so whenever they would rebuild a synagogue, when this 274 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Old Testament talks to we're not New Testament yet that, you 275 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,960 know, they would, they would bury so, so in a synagogue or in 276 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,600 Jewish tradition, once the scroll got too old to use kind 277 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,600 of like an American flag, you know, you're supposed to, you 278 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,200 have a ceremony to, to, to, to honor an American flag and burn 279 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,520 it. Well, with a, with a scroll in a 280 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,400 synagogue, they would bury it. And so whenever you, they're 281 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,720 digging underneath old synagogues, they can often find 282 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,240 fragments of these manuscripts. Isn't that exciting? 283 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,320 I tell you guys, you're here. Yeah, there you go. 284 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,760 So anyway, moving on. So, so then the Dead Sea Scrolls 285 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,480 come along, which produce this incredibly valuable, very unique 286 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:03,160 source where there there are fragments that go back all the 287 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,400 way to 1:30. So you've got to recognize now 288 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,600 you're at 1:30 BC to AD 70 in some cases. 289 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,040 So you're 1000 years earlier in some cases than what you once 290 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,040 had. That's how significant the Dead 291 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Sea Scrolls are. And so in 1948 when they 292 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,760 discovered that, they realized we could go back 1000 years. 293 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,080 But what's really amazing is, is how little difference there was. 294 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,720 That's the miracle. So one of the trustworthy 295 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,280 evidences of even those, even those translations done prior to 296 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 1948 is how trustworthy they were and how accurate, because 297 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,000 they're checking them all the time and, and, and, and nothing 298 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,240 of any theological significance ever. 299 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,120 You might have a little factual thing here or there or a 300 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,880 punctuation thing or something like that, but nothing of any 301 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,120 theological consequence at all. So it's really amazing how 302 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,280 accurate that has been. And so, but it does allow them 303 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,400 to go back even further and study language. 304 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Now, what's also interesting then is this thing called the 305 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,760 Septuagint, which I mentioned last time I should have brought 306 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,200 a copy with. Now I have a copy of the 307 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:13,160 Septuagint, but the Septuagint then is a Greek translation of 308 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,040 the Old Testament. So you you have Hebrew that was 309 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,800 written in some Aramaic. But because of the large 310 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,079 settlement of Jews in Egypt, it's always interesting to me. 311 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,960 And, and, and I think it's worth noting at one time the center of 312 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Christianity was Alexandria, Egypt. 313 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Now you just got to think about that in today's world, to think 314 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:43,160 about how things change. Today, Alexandria, Egypt would 315 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,360 be a hotbed of Islam, but in the day it was the place of 316 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:51,000 scholarship, it was the place of higher learning, it was the 317 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,680 place of teaching of the early church. 318 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,120 And so Alexandria becomes a center of learning and writing 319 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,320 and research, etcetera. And so because of the large 320 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,160 settlement there of the Jewish people who spoke Greek instead 321 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,240 of Hebrew, they they translate. It first began with the first 322 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,800 five books, the Pentateuch, and you're looking at about 250 BC. 323 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,760 Now the tradition says that 70 scholars worked on this, and the 324 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,680 word Septuagint comes from the idea of 70. 325 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,360 So these 70 scholars, and that's an important point for a minute, 326 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,400 because the more scholars who work on a translation tend to be 327 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,080 a better translation. And we'll talk about that more 328 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,640 later, which will help you pick out your translation. 329 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,560 And so then finally, the other Old Testament books come to come 330 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,080 to pass so that by about 1:50 BC, they're complete with the 331 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,680 entire thing called the Septuagint. 332 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,920 Now, what's interesting about the Septuagint is that this was 333 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,760 actually the first attempt to probably translate the Old 334 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Testament. But what's really interesting, 335 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,480 and a lot of people don't know this, this would have been what 336 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Jesus used to a large degree. In fact, Jesus quotes the 337 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,480 Septuagint more than he does any other text. 338 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,640 And so did the disciples. And you can tell they're quoting 339 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,160 from the Greek in Greek when they're doing a lot of that. 340 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Jesus would have spoken Aramaic primarily by the time he was 341 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,760 alive, would have been able to read Hebrew, obviously. 342 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,920 And so, but he very likely most scholars believe, and you can 343 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,840 see it in the language and the structure that when he's quoting 344 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,800 the Old Testament, he's actually taking the quotes from the 345 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Septuagint. And so this becomes a primary 346 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,040 tool because you got to recognize this. 347 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,760 So Christians use it because you got to think this, this. 348 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,200 And then and, and the best manuscript was what's called 349 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,640 Vatican Vaticanus Codex. And it's from around 325 AD. 350 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:52,440 So we're not just at, we're not just at 1000 anymore. 351 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,120 We're, we're not, we're, you know, some of the Dead Sea score 352 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,320 fragments help us go back quite a ways. 353 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,200 But you're also recognizing here that you have a complete Old 354 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,120 Testament from 3:25. It just happens to be in Greek 355 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,920 and not Hebrew. So the Septuagint is still a 356 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,480 very important source of scholarship to study for people 357 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,520 who are doing translations. Well, things move along. 358 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,080 You need other translations. You know, and so other 359 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,440 translations in Greek follow. There are a lot of those. 360 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,440 I won't list them. You wouldn't remember anyway. 361 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Eventually origin, one of the early church fathers creates a 362 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:35,360 parallel Bible to where it's called the Hexapla origins. 363 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:39,080 Hexapla where you basically have all these columns. 364 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,040 It's like some of you might have a Bible like a parallel Bible 365 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,160 like that. Now we have more than one 366 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:49,440 translation, and this one had a six columns side by side in 367 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Greek as well as in Hebrew. Along the way, some of these 368 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,160 other Greek translations as well as Hebrew. 369 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,720 But what happened is, is Judaism and Christianity spreads all 370 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,760 around the world. And so they're in all these 371 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,600 other places with other languages. 372 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,640 So it became necessary to translate the Old Testament 373 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,000 scriptures into new languages. And that may not seem 374 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,240 controversial. It will be controversial. 375 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,440 In fact, it'll be a death penalty sentence later, but at 376 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,600 this point it's not so. Aramaic was used for synagogues, 377 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Syriac for Syrian believers. I have friends who can still 378 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,200 translate Syriac for those who need a hobby. 379 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,720 And then of course, finally, what happens is Latin comes 380 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,200 along. Why does Latin come along? 381 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,880 What happens? Say it again, Rome. 382 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,400 That's right. So when Rome begins to dominate 383 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,680 the world there and Christianity is, is moving through the Roman 384 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,920 Empire, there's the need for a Latin translation. 385 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,680 So what happens then is, is that the the Latin translation of the 386 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Septuagint, which is the Greek Old Testament, was used by 150 387 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,880 AD and Jerome, another church father. 388 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,360 And this is important, translates it into what's called 389 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:08,600 the Vulgate around 400 AD. Now what's significant about 390 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,880 this is so now you have the Old Testament in Latin and the 391 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,800 Church would not allow another translation for 1000 years. 392 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:25,720 So remember, the Roman Catholic Church insisted on Latin and so 393 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,480 for many, many, many, many, many years. 394 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,080 And so they would not allow any other Old Testament other than 395 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,560 the Vulgate for, for over 1000 years. 396 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,960 And when some English translations start, and we'll 397 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,240 talk about it in a minute, especially by a guy named John 398 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,160 Wickliffe, you might call him Wycliffe. 399 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,440 That Wickliffe, he actually, he actually gets a death penalty 400 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,640 for translating the Bible into English because he's violating 401 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,440 the church because they want everything in Latin. 402 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,440 And not only does he have a death penalty, they, they hang 403 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,680 him, they burn his body, they cut it into pieces and they 404 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,280 throw it in the river just to make sure. 405 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,800 So they were, they did not want that to happen. 406 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,160 All right. So that's kind of the Old 407 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Testament. So we go from Hebrew to Greek to 408 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,320 eventually Latin. Along the way you have a few 409 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,560 other languages, Aramaic and Syriac. 410 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,080 None of those really help you, do you? 411 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:24,200 Anybody here an expert in Latin? Anybody have Latin in high 412 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,480 school? They don't even do that anymore. 413 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,520 Hardly anybody still do that younger. 414 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600 You all take Latin? Yeah. 415 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,040 I don't have to think so. Me either. 416 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Me either. I could. 417 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,960 I barely took English, but I want you to know how many. 418 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,440 If you're a school teacher, raise your hand. 419 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,720 OK. Thank you very much. 420 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,400 Appreciate you. My wife's one. 421 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,160 It was one, too. I just want you to know that 422 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,000 when I went to college and I flunked my English class in 423 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:02,680 college because my high school did not teach me English, and 424 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,840 then I retook the English class. I made an AI, went back and I 425 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,840 located my 8th grade English teacher, Missus McIntosh, who 426 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,920 taught me how to diagram a sentence and understand the 427 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,840 parts of speech and thanked her because she's the only way I 428 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,360 could go back and remember what I was supposed to know for 429 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,560 English. So thank you teachers, of that 430 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,360 investment. I made Misses McIntosh cry. 431 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,400 But anyway. But I was her favorite student 432 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,080 of all time, so it was great. Now New Testament, just for a 433 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,960 few minutes. So the earliest New Testament 434 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,400 manuscripts now in existence are still on papyrus. 435 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:52,640 So we still have some early papyrus documents, but after 436 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,240 about the 4th century, everything moves into parchment. 437 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,400 So, So the way that research in the New Testament is broken 438 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,000 down, history of the New Testament, you're going to have 439 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,240 the parchment, excuse me, The papyrus manuscripts and the 440 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,000 parchment manuscripts, they actually divide it by what it 441 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,680 was written on, OK. And so early on, you had people 442 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,240 riding on papyrus. The oldest one of these would be 443 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,800 about 8117. And so they, they, they, they, 444 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,920 they are larger. They, they get bigger and bigger 445 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,240 from about the second and third centuries. 446 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Then the parchments come around by about the four centuries. 447 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,000 Now remember that what happens is I talked last time about what 448 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,760 a codex was. A codex is a book. 449 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,160 Just think like a book. That's all that is. 450 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,320 Instead of a scroll, you got a book. 451 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,080 And so now what you have is you have the Old and New Testaments 452 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,080 in codex form. So you have once again, this 453 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,800 Codex Vaticanus, which is probably the most reliable copy 454 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,880 of the entire New Testament as well from about AD 325. 455 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,400 But then you have a couple others that I mentioned there 456 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,640 and you can see their names. And So what we see is, is that 457 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,680 that that there's no record when some of these were discovered. 458 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,680 It is interesting though, because that one, that, that one 459 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:17,240 at the bottom, Codex Cyaniticitis, Cyaniticus 460 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Cyaniticus. Mount Sinai, Sinaiticus. 461 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,120 Sinaiticus. For those of you listening 462 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,240 online, that was my brain blowing up. 463 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:38,640 They actually in, yeah, in about 1859, a guy was visiting a 464 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,720 monastery and he looks in a waste paper basket and he 465 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,840 notices this old parchment and he reaches in there and it's one 466 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,120 of these oldest parchment manuscripts of all time. 467 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,080 And then the the monks tell him, well, you got here a little late 468 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,960 because we just used several of the others in the in the stove 469 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,800 to heat up the place. And so they'd actually burned it 470 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240 up. And so it's really interesting. 471 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,960 He got 43 leaves out of the basket, but that wasn't all of 472 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,520 them and it wasn't enough. So it's really interesting that 473 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,200 we're able to have any of this stuff. 474 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520 They said there were two basketfuls that got burned up. 475 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,080 So then again, remember you've got the Latin Vulgate now that 476 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,960 started in in about 400 ish with Jerome. 477 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,840 But then along comes the Council of Trent and it says this is the 478 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,040 authoritative Bible of the church, right? 479 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,480 And and it also becomes the very first book ever printed on the 480 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,680 Guten Gutenberg printing press. And so it began, it goes into 481 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,280 mass production in Latin and no other translations allowed for a 482 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,200 long time. And so they, they, they won't 483 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 let you use it. All right now we go through all 484 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,360 that and then, and then let me share with you because I got to 485 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,920 spend a little time here on the middle here. 486 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200 But then what happens is if you'll notice we kind of hop in 487 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:06,440 time a little bit, you get to about 1522 and you have a, you 488 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,320 have one of the greatest terms ever in the world, the complete, 489 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,760 the Completensian polyglot. So there's your sentence for 490 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,800 tomorrow. It just means many tongues. 491 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,440 And what it meant was as you had Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin 492 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,600 and columns, it's another parallel Bible that gets 493 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,240 developed along the way, right? It's actually put together by a 494 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,640 cardinal in Spain who puts it together. 495 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,720 And so it becomes a unique thing. 496 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,200 And of course, with the printing press coming along a little bit 497 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,960 later is going to be mass produced too. 498 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,840 So then along the way you have other Greek New Testaments, but 499 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,240 some of these Greek New Testaments were based on very 500 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,680 inferior manuscripts. And I'm going to talk about how 501 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 we know that. And so a lot of them weren't 502 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,840 very good. All right, so then we get to 503 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,760 what I want to spend time on. All right, here we go. 504 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,440 So all that was introductory. Welcome. 505 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,920 You're, I'm glad you're here. So welcome to the session 506 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840 tonight. Let's talk about translation 507 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,760 because this is a big deal and I want you to understand it. 508 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,320 I still do translation, believe it or not, especially out of 509 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,680 Greek sometimes. And so I taught Greek for a 510 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,760 while. And so you have again, 66 books 511 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,120 originally from three languages and the and, and the and so 512 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,520 you've got Hebrew, Aramaic, most of Aramaic in the Bible. 513 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,480 You're going to find some in Daniel in the Old Testament, 514 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,880 you've got passages in Ezra that are in Aramaic. 515 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,720 And then of course some of the some of the sayings of Jesus 516 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320 were either Greek or Aramaic and then in the Greek New Testament 517 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,240 for the most part. But here's the problem. 518 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Most of you don't know any of those. 519 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,160 I would guess some of you might have studied Greek or Hebrew if 520 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,440 you went to a certain school, but most of you probably don't 521 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,840 know Greek or Hebrew. And so does that scare me? 522 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,840 Should I, should I learn those? Is there any way I can trust 523 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,840 anybody else to help me? Or are the English translations 524 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160 any good? You know, am I really reading 525 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,720 the word of God? So most of us need a good 526 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,880 English translation and translators. 527 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160 You got to remember, and don't let this scare you. 528 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,680 Translation equals interpretation. 529 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,720 And you always got to remember that. 530 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,160 And I'm going to talk to tell you why. 531 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,480 That's why you have different translations that have different 532 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,400 words sometimes because there's some interpretation involved. 533 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,280 It's often very difficult. English is a very different 534 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 language compared to Greek or Hebrew. 535 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Greek is a very rich, expressive language. 536 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840 And in English we would say that's a dog. 537 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,320 In Greek, they'd probably have 12 words for dog, depending upon 538 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,200 if there's a big dog, a little dog, a fast dog, a loud dog, a 539 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,240 quiet dog. They'd have all these different 540 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,920 words, all these different combinations. 541 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600 So it's a very rich thing. So sometimes when you're 542 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,200 translating Greek, you need a paragraph in English to 543 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360 translate the one word. So when we talk about how 544 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560 translation works, you're going to have to make decisions. 545 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Is it a word for word translation? 546 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,960 Is it a meaning translation? What are we trying to get to? 547 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,080 I'll talk more about that in a minute. 548 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920 So So what happens is, is there's translation involved. 549 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,520 So and so it's important AI think that first of all, you 550 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,920 might own more than one translation if you can. 551 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,880 Now in many parts of the world, they can't. 552 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,480 They don't have one. They only have the one, you know 553 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,880 their language, they got the one translation or they don't even 554 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,080 have a whole translation. Again, remember that in the 555 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,520 world today and you'll read different things online, but 556 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,480 it's wrong. I'm right. 557 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,320 And what I'm about to tell you, and I know that because of the 558 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720 research. So they're about 12,000 559 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960 languages. By the time you Add all the 560 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,240 dialects of all the languages, you're up to 11,000 something. 561 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,080 The entire Bible has been translated in 600 or less. 562 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,920 OK, so most of the world's population does not have an 563 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280 entire Bible necessarily in their own language. 564 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280 If you talk about language groups, not necessarily 565 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,000 population and so, so it's a big deal for you to have an English 566 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200 translation. It's also a big deal if you have 567 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,480 more than one. I advise you to have more than 568 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,680 one. I'm going to talk to you about 569 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,160 which ones I think you ought to choose from because there are 570 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,640 categories of translations that I think if you could have one 571 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600 from each of at least two of these categories, it would be 572 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,640 helpful for you to compare and read right. 573 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,960 You're not going to get different theology, you are 574 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,320 going to get different nuance. You're going to get different 575 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,720 wording, you're going to get different word pictures at times 576 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160 because of that. So it really becomes important. 577 00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:00,480 And so some of you know, how many of you here still use the 578 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,520 the older King James as your primary translation? 579 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Just confess it. Thank you, thank you, thank you 580 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080 very much. There are some people who 581 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360 believe it's the only translation to use that Jesus 582 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,920 did, that Jesus did not use the King James Version, but it's not 583 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,400 a bad translation at all. It's just sometimes the language 584 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,200 is kind of tough for modern readers. 585 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,160 We'll talk more about that in a minute. 586 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640 So remember that. And so for the serious student, 587 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,760 we need help. So we depend upon translators 588 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,560 and to help us do that. And so the science of 589 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,720 translation is really a big deal. 590 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,400 I know people who do this. This is what they do for a 591 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,120 living. They do this as missionaries. 592 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,440 They do this as scholars. I I have a dear friend now who's 593 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,200 probably one of the world's, well, one of the nations anyway, 594 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240 greatest New Testament translators on the planet. 595 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240 And so they have to make at least two choices. 596 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,720 You have to make choices in at least these two areas, and one 597 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,440 of those would be called textual. 598 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,040 So you'll hear words like textual criticism, which often 599 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400 gets painted in a negative light for some reason. 600 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,960 And that's not the same thing as source criticism where you're 601 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,400 you're, you're, you're questioning whether or not the 602 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,719 Bible is real or not. But textual criticism just means 603 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080 we're analyzing the actual wording. 604 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,360 So be sure that the the Hebrew and Greek are, is as close as 605 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,520 the original wording can be. And your translations of that 606 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,040 are close. So it's it's the actual wording 607 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,719 itself. So they've got to look at least 608 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,440 a couple of things when they're looking at it. 609 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,320 They got to look at both external evidence as well as 610 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,239 internal evidence. And I'll talk about that as we 611 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,440 go. So what we have are we have 612 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,800 these thousands of manuscripts, we have all these different 613 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,880 copies throughout history. And so the issue that these 614 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,440 scholars will, a good scholars will do, a committee of scholars 615 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239 will do. They'll actually sift through 616 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:03,240 all those, today's world gets aided by computers, but in 617 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,200 today's world, they can actually sift through thousands of the 618 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,120 various manuscripts to see if there are any variants to see if 619 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,680 there are choices being made in the language being used and what 620 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,320 that means. So, so they'll, they, they try 621 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,520 to sort out what's the best manuscripts. 622 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,360 And so This is why in some of your study Bibles, you'll have 623 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,240 verses that are in the margin and people get mad about that. 624 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600 I've heard stories about people up here getting mad about that. 625 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,400 And so for example, at the end of Mark, where does Mark 626 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,280 actually end? And then some of your study 627 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,240 Bibles, they'll be, you know, some manuscripts do not contain 628 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,720 the following verses. Well, that's because some 629 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,680 manuscripts don't contain the following verses. 630 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000 And so they're trying to weave through which are the most 631 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,600 accurate, earliest trustworthy manuscripts. 632 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,520 And so I always want to study a Bible that has it in the margin 633 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,560 to tell me that. And even in those circumstances, 634 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,480 there's, there's, there's not a theological issue at stake. 635 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,720 Usually the verses that are missing or just emphasizing 636 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:14,040 something that's already been said for most of the time. 637 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,360 So, so this, this seems kind of tough. 638 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,640 And, and so, you know, are, are these translators actually 639 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,880 capable as they work through the external evidence, which is 640 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,800 actually the character and quality of the manuscripts? 641 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,760 Where did this manuscript come from? 642 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,120 Who, who, who put it together? How old is it? 643 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,840 They're actually analyzing the manuscript itself, right? 644 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:40,960 And then the internal evidence is, is, is how many times has 645 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,040 something been copied? And is this a copy of a copy of 646 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,920 a copy as compared to how early it goes? 647 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,840 So they're looking at both the, the, the, the work that's being 648 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,680 done inside the manuscript as well as how the manuscript was 649 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640 produced in the first place. But then not only are they 650 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,040 working through the, the textual part of it, they're also going 651 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,880 to work through the linguistic part of it. 652 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,800 So what we see is, is that that language can often be very 653 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,320 interesting. So what's the grammar, what's 654 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,080 the culture, what's the history? What, what did, what did they 655 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,120 really mean when they said that, etcetera. 656 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,720 So there's some interpretation going on depending upon the type 657 00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:24,920 of translation that you use. Some translations are much more 658 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,960 interpretive, others are much more word for word for word. 659 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,840 And so you've got to decide which one you want. 660 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,560 So for the most part, though, rest easy. 661 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,720 For the most part, these translators work straight from 662 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:43,600 the Hebrew and Greek texts, and they are edited by rigorous, 663 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,360 careful scholarship, right? And, and, and so they're working 664 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,880 through all of these pieces, and then you've got to make 665 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,920 decisions in the linguistics section. 666 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,880 And it's often difficult, again, to convey the meaning. 667 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,200 So are you looking for a literal translation? 668 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,480 Are you looking for what's called dynamic equivalence? 669 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,040 Or are you looking for free? And different English 670 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,640 translations fall into those 3 categories. 671 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:19,840 So you have some, for example, a free translation, a very free, 672 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,840 not even a translation, a free paraphrase is the Living Bible, 673 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,480 the Living Bible, not the new living translation. 674 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,840 But the Living Bible is not a translation. 675 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,560 The Living Bible was not even intended to be a translation. 676 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,240 The Living Bible was a father who was trying to read Bible 677 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:43,120 stories to his children at night from the King James and they 678 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,240 couldn't understand the King James. 679 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,320 So he paraphrases the King James into modern English and you have 680 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,920 the Living Bible. It's it's not, it's, it's a 681 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,720 paraphrase based on a translation, right? 682 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,720 I would not ever recommend that the Living Bible be your primary 683 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,720 study Bible. It might be a commentary and 684 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,560 that's how I would treat it. Is the Living Bible is more like 685 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,800 a commentary. And so you have literal 686 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,040 translations where you're trying to get, you're trying to get 687 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,120 more of a word for word type experience where you're actually 688 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,800 looking for what the the Greek word was, what the Hebrew word 689 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,720 was. And then you also have dynamic 690 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,840 equivalence where you're looking more for meaning and also 691 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,360 readability. And so part of the issue between 692 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:42,440 translations is how readable it is in English and also what how 693 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,880 close it's trying to be to so literal would be word order as 694 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,280 well as as close to a word for word translation as you can get. 695 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,120 So sometimes the translations that you read, including the one 696 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,840 I preach from, which some people don't like, it's because it's a 697 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,680 more literal translation. And so the word order sometimes 698 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,120 can be awkward to an English reader. 699 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,720 Some of our translations are written on a 11th and 12th grade 700 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:13,320 reading level. Some of our English translations 701 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,600 are written on a fifth grade reading level, and those are 702 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,680 very different from one another. And so again, no theology is 703 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,120 affected, but the wording, the specific words that are used 704 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,760 sometimes, because instead of using a literal meaning of a 705 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,120 Greek or Hebrew word, we're going to convey the meaning and 706 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,840 more of a paraphrase or sentence form or use more than one word 707 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,240 to try to describe what it means. 708 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,840 So literal translations can make things kind of ambiguous 709 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,120 sometimes, but what you call the free translation on the other 710 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,400 end can also be more of a commentary than a translation. 711 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,200 And so when you begin looking at some of the more modern 712 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,000 translations, there's a couple of things that I would say that 713 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,200 I would use as a matrix for choosing which translation I 714 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,560 want to use, right? So the first thing for me is I 715 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,000 do want it to be based on original language. 716 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,240 I'm not looking for a paraphrase. 717 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,120 I want a translation that is based on the Hebrew and Greek. 718 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,920 OK. I also want a translation that's 719 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,360 put together by a committee of scholars and not an individual. 720 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:34,240 Now I own 5 shelves of bibles, probably 4. 721 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:39,200 Anyway, I bet it's 5. And I have some like the Philips 722 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,840 New Testament. It's a well known older 723 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,800 translation put together by one man. 724 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,080 That doesn't mean it's not valuable. 725 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,920 That doesn't mean I wouldn't pull Phillips out every now and 726 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,480 to say, what did Phillips say about this compared to what the 727 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,680 entire huge committee that put together the CSB said about this 728 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,320 thing? Right. 729 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,320 And it doesn't mean that he's wrong. 730 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,400 He very likely going to say the same thing. 731 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,160 But you always want to have more than one scholar because I just 732 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,880 know these scholars. I know some of them. 733 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,400 I know some of them have worked on the the CSB, which is a later 734 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,840 translation. And they argue, they argue over 735 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,640 which, which word are we going to use to translate this word? 736 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,240 Because they know they all know original language. 737 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120 They can all speak it. They could all stand up here and 738 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,000 just preach out of the Hebrew and the Greek to you. 739 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,760 They don't need an English translation. 740 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,240 This is their life. But then they're going to sit 741 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,880 there and argue, well, it has this nuance and has this little, 742 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,160 so should we do this? What tense should it be in, in 743 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,320 English? I mean, they're going to sit 744 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,560 there and argue and debate and argue and debate over every 745 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,800 single word, which is why it takes so long to translate the 746 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,320 Bible and Wickliffe Bible translators who translate into 747 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,800 other languages do the same thing. 748 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,960 Now, again, technology is very helpful today in helping them 749 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,040 work through some of those issues because it has a database 750 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,320 that they can pull on. But I want one that's based on 751 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,280 original language. I want one that's that's 752 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,800 committee, not individual. And I want one that's literal 753 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,440 and I want one that's dynamic equivalent. 754 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080 I want both of those. I have all three. 755 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,160 But if I'm only picking 2 Bibles, I'm going to try to find 756 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,320 some that fit into both of those categories. 757 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,840 So let me give you a couple of examples. 758 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,880 So for example, I used to only use the New American standard. 759 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,520 I love the new American standard. 760 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,800 My first real Bible was a New American standard. 761 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,480 It's a it's a literal translation. 762 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,400 It's a literal translation. It's a it's a close to word for 763 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,480 word. It's awkward to read for some 764 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,720 people in English because it follows more of a of a Greek 765 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,000 word order in the New Testament, but I like it. 766 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,560 The CSB, which is a newer translation you'll see at the 767 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,120 very bottom. 2016 used to be called the Homan. 768 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,640 It's now the CSB. Dylan would say that's the only 769 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,040 translation you ought to use and that is the most accurate. 770 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,720 And Doctor Chuck Quarles, who teaches at Southeastern 771 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:08,280 Seminary, is actually a part of that group, and he would argue 772 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,400 that it's by far the most accurate current translation. 773 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,120 But it's going to be word for word. 774 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,440 It's going to be, I say word for word. 775 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,360 It's never word for word, but it's a literal word order. 776 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,480 Closest can be word for word. Now, when you get over into 777 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,200 dynamic, and then you have other older ones like the Rs of the 778 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,000 Revised Standard, etcetera. King James is literal. 779 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,760 It tries to follow that word order. 780 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,880 When you get into dynamic equivalents, the most well known 781 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,040 for you all would be the NIV. And some people just don't like 782 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,120 the NIV at all. Yeah, Right. 783 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,560 Because because of this or that or the other. 784 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,880 Right. But the NIV, the new 785 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,440 International version, is much more readable, much easier to 786 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,960 read. It's on a fifth grade reading 787 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,880 level, whereas the new American standard will be that 11th or 788 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,400 12th grade reading level. And that may not sound like 789 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,800 much, but that's harder than you know. 790 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,040 And so for the NIV, you have a much more modern version. 791 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,680 You have good news for modern man. 792 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,160 If you remember some of those things, those would be somewhere 793 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,640 in between dynamic equivalents and free, right? 794 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,800 And so you have some of those other kinds of versions as well. 795 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,120 The new King James, which I preached through for many years, 796 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,480 Doctor Clover's translation, I believe. 797 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,480 So the primary reason I don't use the new King James Version 798 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,200 is because Michael Clover did. But I hope you're listening, 799 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,640 Michael. That was for you. 800 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,080 Like you would ever listen to me. 801 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,600 But no, I used it for many, many years. 802 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,440 Part of the reason I used it is the very first church I ever 803 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,560 pastored. I was in the pastor church team 804 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,040 meeting and this is a little town of 2000 people. 805 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,520 I was their first full time anything. 806 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,680 It had just kind of moved from being a church plant to a church 807 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,320 and the 80 people wanted a pastor and the committee had a 808 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,440 retired old pastor on the the committee had two of those 809 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,160 retired old pastors. I have says the word old on the 810 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,080 team and and they asked me, well, you are going to preach 811 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,440 out of the King James Version, aren't you? 812 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000 And this is in eastern Oklahoma, almost Arkansas. 813 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,320 I mean, just literally across the street from Arkansas just 814 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,280 about and we have a lot of King James only churches in that part 815 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,600 of the world. And so I said, well, I certainly 816 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,200 will be glad to do that as soon as I go buy a King James Version 817 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,120 Bible. And so I started off I still 818 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,600 have it. It's really looks nice. 819 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,720 It was a very nice Bible. It was one of the nicer Bibles 820 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,760 I've probably ever owned. It was one of those fancy 821 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,600 leather, you know, because I can't afford those anymore. 822 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,720 But I still have it on my shelf and it looks really nice because 823 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,560 I didn't use it very long. So so I transitioned them to New 824 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,120 King James because it follows a similar word order as the older 825 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,760 King James and it was an easier translate transition. 826 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,760 And I preached out a new King James for 20 years probably. 827 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,360 So a lot of my old sermons are New King James. 828 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,640 So you wonder, why did I ever leave behind the beloved? 829 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,120 Well, I came here and I knew that about Clover, so I had to 830 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,040 do something. So so anyway, so but even like 831 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,120 the good News Bible that that still was put together by one 832 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,760 man got him Robert Bratcher. So you got to be careful when 833 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,680 you're looking at some of these different kind of Bibles as 834 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,160 well. And so let's talk about some 835 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,480 translations for some minutes here because again, it's often 836 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,120 very difficult and and to know. And so you have a, a list of 837 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,400 translations basically with times, you know, when you kind 838 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,240 of see them, some of the early ones, etcetera. 839 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,240 But and then of course, now you have interlinears and parallel 840 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:45,800 Bibles and you have the message and you have all kinds of stuff. 841 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,440 But when you start thinking about some of these 842 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,120 translations, you can see some of these early versions of, of 843 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640 English. Some of these were condemned, 844 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,400 some of these were not. Later you'll eventually see 845 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:05,200 1611, the King James and then you go through various early 846 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,080 versions. The amplified version comes 847 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,880 along. I like, I use an amplified 848 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,960 version a lot. If you don't know what the 849 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,520 amplified version is, is it's a translation that actually 850 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,240 purposely is almost impossible to read out of or to preach out 851 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,840 of because it, it will actually go on and describe what the word 852 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,400 means. So you have a running commentary 853 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,920 of here's what that Hebrew word means. 854 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,200 Here's what that Greek word means. 855 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,880 So it amplifies the meaning. It's really great for study, not 856 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,280 great for preaching, probably your teaching, but but what we 857 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,400 see then is you move on along to the, you know, you see the 858 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,400 living Bible, the new American standard coming along, the new 859 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:49,240 King James, the living, new Living translation, the ESV, 860 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,120 which I use. And then then you see the CSB at 861 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,440 the end there. And so part of the issue with 862 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,000 these translations here's here's recommendations for what it's 863 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,920 worth. So if I'm picking a translation 864 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,440 AI, again, I want one at least from a literal category. 865 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,200 So I if I like the Old King James fine, new King James fine, 866 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:22,280 new American standard fine, then ESV fine, CSV fine. 867 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,800 There might be some others that would be fine, but those would 868 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,720 be that short list of literals for me, and some of those would 869 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,360 be a lot easier to read than others. 870 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,720 So think about that then, the dynamic equivalence. 871 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,080 I'm not afraid of the New International Version. 872 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,560 I don't use it as my primary study Bible, nor would I use it 873 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,280 as my primary teaching or preaching Bible. 874 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,600 I'm not saying you shouldn't, I just wouldn't because I want the 875 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,520 more literal one for that. Because the living translation 876 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,800 is going to flesh out more modern English, modern thought, 877 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,600 etcetera. The New Living translation is a 878 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,520 translation. It's not the Living Bible. 879 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,920 And the new Living translation would be a little similar to the 880 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,000 NIV, somewhere in between that and literal. 881 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,360 That would be the the, the new living translation. 882 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,880 So, but it's probably that more dynamic equivalence, but much 883 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,040 more reliable than say the it's not the Living Bible. 884 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,000 Don't get those confused. Not the same thing at all. 885 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:29,040 And so to think through what the translations are, the question 886 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,600 again, then the balance is, do I want readability or do I want 887 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,320 literal meaning? Right. 888 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,880 And, and, and for me, I think it's helpful to have both and to 889 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,520 mix it up. So in your personal Bible study, 890 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,600 then what I would be working toward is I would be working 891 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,200 toward having more than one Bible. 892 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,680 That doesn't mean you have to use them every single day. 893 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,760 That doesn't mean that you're always reading every single 894 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,600 verse out of both translations. And sometimes you can actually 895 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,840 buy Bibles now that have multiple translations in them. 896 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,920 And of course, in modern day, your, your Bible might be this 897 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,080 anyway to where you're looking at an iPad or your phone where 898 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,720 it's often easiest to switch back and forth between 899 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:13,080 translations. But it's it's rare time every 900 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,880 single morning. We have prayer time and devotion 901 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,080 with the staff in the office every single morning. 902 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,920 We start that 8:15 every single morning and I bring a passage of 903 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:30,520 Scripture and we pray together. Often I'm bringing some verse 904 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,480 from my quiet time earlier that morning, right? 905 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,120 So I've been studying, like I say, around Nehemiah, Ezra, 906 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,280 Haggai, Zechariah. Sometimes I'll pull a devotional 907 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,560 book out or something else will happen and I'll use that verse. 908 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,960 But I almost always, even in those moments, I'm consulting 909 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,760 multiple translations. And in fact, this morning I had 910 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,560 Bibles on both knees as I'm just sharing with them. 911 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,120 I had four different translations this morning in our 912 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,320 devotion to show them a word that I think is cool. 913 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,920 And so in fact, turn, if you have a Bible, let me show you 914 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,160 one has nothing to do with it's not going to mess with your 915 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,840 meaning. But I did this because of my 916 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,960 sermon last week that I know you all memorized. 917 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,680 And so you probably know what verse I want to go to even 918 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,800 before I say it. So of course it's Romans 12 919 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,840 because I, I mentioned one verse out of Romans 12 last week. 920 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,320 So what was struck, what struck me about Romans 12 is, is on my 921 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,240 phone, I have a note called and I've shared this with some of 922 00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:44,760 you before. It's called Why I Breathe. 923 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,920 I encourage all of you to do that on my phone. 924 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,680 I have this, this huge long note of of why I breathe. 925 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:56,720 In fact, I'll just here, I'll pull it up so I won't let you 926 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,000 read it because it's personal. But here on my phone, these are 927 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,480 verses and principles and prayers, just things. 928 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,160 This is why I'm alive. This is why I exist. 929 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,240 This is what God wants of me. I add to it, I reflect on it. 930 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,680 Some days I need to read it more than I do other days. 931 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,280 This morning was a day I needed to read it. 932 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,160 OK, why am I here? Why do I exist? 933 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,680 What should I be doing? OK, and the very first verse on 934 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,440 the Why I breathe note is Romans 12/12. 935 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,360 In my sermon last week, I shared Romans 12/11. 936 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,120 So I thought to myself, huh, there's a theme there. 937 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,960 So let me just show you this. Now, as you can guess, I'm in 938 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,960 the ESV. Some of you make sure you're in 939 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,560 a different translation. I really don't feel bad. 940 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,240 I'm just hoarse because I've had 4000 meetings today. 941 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,480 All right, so listen to this. I'm going to get to verse 11, 942 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,680 but but let me start off earlier just because it's really good. 943 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,920 So verse 9, let love be genuine, abhor what is evil, hold fast to 944 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,760 what is good. Love one another with brotherly 945 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,040 affection, outdo one another and showing honor. 946 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,760 I love that phrase. That was something we talked 947 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,640 about this morning. How can we outdo one another to 948 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,400 show each other honor? You know, not only do we love 949 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,040 one another, we're nice to one another. 950 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,400 How can I outdo you? By showing more honor to you 951 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,880 than you could ever show to me. What a what a challenge for us. 952 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,120 Then look at verse 12. Do not be slothful in Z11. 953 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,360 I'm sorry, 1111, do not be slothful in zeal. 954 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,520 This is what I read last Sunday be fervent in spirit, serve the 955 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,000 Lord and it goes on rejoicing, hope, be patient tribulation and 956 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,160 goes on great little phrases all the way through because you know 957 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,880 it's the word of God is good stuff, but in that verse 11 do 958 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,760 not be slothful in zeal. What do you have in you just 959 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,200 that phrase. Don't read the whole verse. 960 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,560 Say it, Say it again. Be would be what? 961 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,280 Be in business. Oh, do not be slothful in 962 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,440 business. Isn't that interesting? 963 00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:15,920 Yeah, Yeah. Never be lazy. 964 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,680 Be diligent. Now the next phrase, mine is be 965 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,280 fervent in spirit. I really want to hear what words 966 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,200 you use. Fervent. 967 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,760 Who's got something other than fervent? 968 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,200 It's enthusiastically so. This morning I pulled two 969 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,000 different Greek texts out, two different interlinears, because 970 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,400 I was fascinated by the fact that in English I was seeing 971 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,760 these different words. Now, there's nothing about any 972 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,440 of that that changes the meaning and right, it's just a different 973 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,680 adjective or it's just a different adverb depending upon 974 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,160 how it's worded. So I pull out the Greek text and 975 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,320 one of them says, be burning in the Holy Spirit, right? 976 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,640 I love the other one. The second one said be boiling 977 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:05,360 in the Holy Spirit, so guess what that original word probably 978 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,040 referred to? You don't have to be a scholar 979 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,880 to guess, I know, but you can just tell me. 980 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,240 Burning or boiling, What does that say to you? 981 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:17,280 We're on fire. Yeah, we're on fire. 982 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,120 We're smoking, right? So we're not going to be lazy. 983 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,560 We're on fire. We're boiling over with the Holy 984 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,800 Spirit. We're burning with the Holy 985 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,440 Spirit. We're enthusiastic about the 986 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,960 Holy Spirit and we're going to see how we can honor one another 987 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,560 more than we can, You know, you can honor me. 988 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,400 I'm, I'm going to compete with you in honoring. 989 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,960 See how I can do that. So you can just see how even in 990 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,160 the Greek itself, there were choices made in the very 991 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,760 interlinear work that they were doing to show the, the, the 992 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,760 actual, a actual literal translation. 993 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:53,400 So the original word means to burn or to boil, you know, and 994 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,600 it's a cooking term. You're on fire. 995 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,080 You're, you're over the fire. I'm sure that if we went back 996 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,240 and broke the Greek word down, it could you break them down 997 00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,240 into pieces, you'd probably have some meaning that said you're 998 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,480 being held over the fire. You know, that's what the, 999 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,240 that's how we're supposed to be with the Holy Spirit. 1000 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,560 See, that's if we studied that way. 1001 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,400 And I'm going to show you over the next few weeks how to do 1002 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,200 that. How can I break this down to get 1003 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,960 that to I, I don't, you know, I may not get through a whole 1004 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,960 chapter. Man, that one phrase in one 1005 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,360 verse filled me up today. You know what I mean? 1006 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,720 That's how rich, that's how alive this word is. 1007 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,800 This is not just a book. And so to be able to break it 1008 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,040 down that way and to understand the dynamics of that, rejoice 1009 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,440 and hope, be patient tribulation, be constant in the 1010 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,200 prayer, contribute to the needs of the Saints and seek to show 1011 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,280 hospitality. Look at the end of verse 13. 1012 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,840 What's your last word? Is it hospitality? 1013 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,760 Say it again. That's good. 1014 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,640 Bless those who persecute you. Bless and do not curse them. 1015 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,240 Rejoice with those who rejoice. We put those who weep. 1016 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,760 Live in harmony with one another. 1017 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,840 Do not be haughty. Does yours? 1018 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,160 Have haughty Proud. But associate with the lowly. 1019 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,440 Never be wise in your own sight. This pretty good passage. 1020 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,400 We might want to pay attention to this, you know, and so it's 1021 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,360 amazing when you begin to just compare translation to translate 1022 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,360 because a lot of you, you know, the Greek's not going to, it's 1023 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,240 just going to be Greek to you, you know, Hebrews worse for 1024 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,040 most. But but if you begin to even 1025 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,360 just look at the different English translations, if you 1026 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,960 speak any other language, pull the Spanish Bible out. 1027 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,200 How did the Spanish language translate that if you speak 1028 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,720 Spanish? And so sometimes I have friends 1029 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,320 who'll do that. I have international friends. 1030 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,000 They're looking at their home and heart language and they're 1031 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,880 looking at English and they'd be looking at original language and 1032 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,400 saying how? And then when you sit there and 1033 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,680 start comparing, this is what that word really means. 1034 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,200 That's how deep our Bible study ought to be. 1035 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,400 That's how rich this meal is. See. 1036 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,880 And so, you know, I, I, I, let me tell you a funny story. 1037 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,600 So so growing up, you're going to crack up growing up growing 1038 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,040 up, we used to go to Gore, Oklahoma. 1039 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:21,040 Now if that sounds like a fantastic place, Gore GORE, you 1040 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,240 can look it up. It still maybe exists. 1041 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,080 And we went to the Finn and Feather Resort on Lake 1042 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,520 Tinkiller. Whoo, now we're talking big 1043 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,480 time. Now, wait a minute. 1044 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,320 Now you didn't just go to Finn and Feather anytime you want. 1045 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,400 You know, not that wasn't an every week thing you did. 1046 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,880 You had to load up in the car, you know, and, and pile up in 1047 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,280 the back of that Ford station wagon. 1048 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,800 No seatbelts back there. Probably no seats are in the 1049 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,440 back of the pickup truck. And it was 45 minutes to an hour 1050 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,440 to get the Finn and Feather from my house. 1051 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,840 So, I mean, this was not just in the old night of the week, you 1052 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,400 know, you didn't do that. This is luxury. 1053 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,880 And the Finn and Feather Resort have these 1940s and 50s 1054 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,000 cottages. They're still there. 1055 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,600 You can still rent them if you're there. 1056 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,920 And but that wasn't a big deal. It was the destination of every 1057 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,200 bus tour, every senior adult foliage bus tour in the entire 1058 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,720 world because they had an all you can eat buffet. 1059 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,960 Now you can understand something. 1060 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,880 We're talking 1970 or 1969 or earlier, right? 1061 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,680 And, and, and they didn't have all you can eat buffets in 1062 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,120 Cherokee County, Oklahoma. You know what I'm saying? 1063 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,560 So, so you get up and you can work. 1064 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,000 We're going, we're going Fin and Feather. 1065 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,360 So that meant you put on your stretchy pants and you got in 1066 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,680 the back of that station wagon and you got out to Fin and 1067 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,360 Feather and Fin and Feather. And here's the thing. 1068 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,440 And Teresa laughs. Because because we would still 1069 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,040 go to Fin and Feather in more modern days. 1070 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,960 And it hadn't, it hadn't changed a bit. 1071 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,040 And you stood in line, I mean, a lie to get to the buffet at Fin 1072 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,520 and Feather, right? Because you ever be. 1073 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,960 I mean, it's Fin and Feather. There's a parrot that talked to 1074 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,800 you in the cage. The parrot probably died. 1075 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,520 And and then there was a guy who played an organ. 1076 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,640 He was a blind man who played the organ. 1077 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,200 And we're talking about one of those wrap around organ things 1078 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,400 with about 6 different levels and and and things you pushed 1079 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,920 and feet things and he would take requests and do happy 1080 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,200 birthday. And the waitresses at Fin and 1081 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,600 Feather every night was a theme night and they dressed up and 1082 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,680 danced. Whoa, it's Fin and Feather. 1083 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:35,560 I'm getting to the point you waited in that line and you can 1084 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,440 see it. You're walking along glass the 1085 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,800 whole way. So there's people in there. 1086 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,880 You're especially your nose up almost like are you done? 1087 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,000 Are you done? Can we have your seat? 1088 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,600 Are you done? You know, when are you done? 1089 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,760 Are you done? And finally you get up to the 1090 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,880 line where you pay. And of course, I was a kid so I 1091 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,280 never paid nothing. And, and there was a white 1092 01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:00,800 haired man who worked at Fin and Feather for 1000 years, looked 1093 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,600 like Johnny Carson. Anybody remember Johnny Carson 1094 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,320 when he had Gray hair? And he would, he would tell you 1095 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,600 where to sit. And it was a, it was like a 1096 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,400 tropical furniture kind of place. 1097 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,840 But it might be western night or it might be, it might be a 50s 1098 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,880 night. You know, if they'd be put, you 1099 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,680 know, poodle skirts. And these are all like high 1100 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,560 school girls who working there for the summer, you know, but 1101 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,360 they had this all you can eat buffet and you could go down 1102 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:30,080 both sides and you'd feel your plate up. 1103 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,040 And then they had this whole thing of desserts. 1104 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,480 And Mama and daddy didn't care if I got dessert 1st. 1105 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,640 And you get that pile of food on your plate and you get about 1106 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,120 four pieces of pie or cake surrounding that plate, you 1107 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,400 know, And you go sit down and listen to the blind man play 1108 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,680 happy birthday or happy anniversary for somebody. 1109 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,960 And you would just start diving in, diving in and diving in. 1110 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,120 And you were so looking forward to that big old mound of food 1111 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,960 and you just stuffing yourself as fast as you can because you 1112 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,320 want to go back. It's all you can eat. 1113 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,320 You know, you got to go back. You can't just go through once. 1114 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,680 I mean, that'd be so you got to go back. 1115 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,240 It's like raising the flag at the Mexican place or the 1116 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,960 Brazilian state, how you got to do it. 1117 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,760 You know, whether your stuff you're going to do it. 1118 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,920 And, you know, by the time I was done, I was sick about fin and 1119 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,640 feather. I've stuffed myself and so fast, 1120 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,480 just shoveling it in so fast. I have no idea what I ate, have 1121 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,480 no idea what it tasted like, and be every single trip home. 1122 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,240 It's curvy old road back home from Gore now I'm telling you, 1123 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,560 every single time, sick to death 'cause I just rushing through 1124 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:41,080 it, 'cause I thought it was all you can eat and I had a big old 1125 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:49,720 mound of it. Cut it slowly, smell it, taste 1126 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,880 it, chew it those 30 times before you swallow. 1127 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,640 See, we we got to be really care. 1128 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,320 I'm not opposed at all to reading the Bible through in a 1129 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,880 year. Great if that's your goal, but 1130 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,800 that better be not that doesn't anybody like all you're doing go 1131 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:14,960 back and say boiling, burning enthusiastically, fervently. 1132 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:21,120 Is that me? Is that really me today? 1133 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,360 And earlier this morning I had to go back and even ask God why 1134 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,680 I existed. And then I'm confronted with 1135 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,200 that and I have to sit out there in the office and tell the staff 1136 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,040 that that we need to be boiling and fervent for the Lord. 1137 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:41,720 And is that even me today? Chew on it, taste it, swallow 1138 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,720 it, be nourished by it. Don't just be made sick because 1139 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,680 you stuffed yourself. And sometimes I worry about 1140 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,480 church friends because people come, they're not here on 1141 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,920 Wednesday night. So I'm, and I'm literally 1142 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,760 preaching to the choir, but I see they're here on Sunday 1143 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,360 morning and that's the only time they're here. 1144 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,360 And, and they, they hear the sermon, which is never going to 1145 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,160 be that good because it's me, but they're here and that they 1146 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,840 think that's good enough. They think that's the diet. 1147 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,280 They think that that they've they've been filled somehow. 1148 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,920 I've always and be care. I'm going to be careful. 1149 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,960 Don't misinterpret what I'll say. 1150 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,840 I've always found it funny when somebody comes to me and says 1151 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,080 I'm leaving my church because I'm not being fed. 1152 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,960 Now, sometimes it's a legitimate complaint the the the preacher 1153 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,080 teacher's not doing a good job and leadership. 1154 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,720 But sometimes it's also just a sign of immaturity. 1155 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,600 Why aren't you feeding yourself? How old are you? 1156 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:46,960 Learn to feed yourself too, see, because whoever stands up here 1157 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,560 may not always do a good job, but you alone in the word, one 1158 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,760 word at a time, 1 syllable at a time. 1159 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,240 Think about it that way, just for a little bit. 1160 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,400 So in my personal quiet time, I'm going to close with this, my 1161 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,880 personal quiet time. Here's the way it's designed. 1162 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,600 And then starting next week, we're going to dive in. 1163 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,880 How do you do this? How do I do this? 1164 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,400 How do I do this? What do I need to look? 1165 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,040 We're going to take passages of Scripture and we're going to use 1166 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,840 them as examples. What do I see in that passage of 1167 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,120 scripture? What do I need to chew on? 1168 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,720 Where's the stake that I need to pull out of that passage? 1169 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,800 How do I do that when I'm alone in my quiet time? 1170 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,280 We're going to talk about that starting next week. 1171 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,560 But the way I do my personal quiet time, I'm not trying to 1172 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,640 read a chapter. I'm not trying to read a whole 1173 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,160 book all at once. I actually, and I'm not, I don't 1174 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,560 know if this is a good thing or not, but you know how in your 1175 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,040 Bible you have the little subheadings? 1176 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,960 That's what I do. I've been doing that for years 1177 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,880 because I figured there's the story. 1178 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,080 That's a story, here's a teaching. 1179 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,000 I'm not going to go any further than that. 1180 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,040 I may be in the same chapter for a week and 1/2 because there's a 1181 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,640 subheading, subheading, subheading, subheading. 1182 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,400 And I'm just I want to read that subheading. 1183 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,400 Now if I feel like that's a story related in there, I'll 1184 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,440 keep going. But but often that's that's 1185 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,560 context and I just I'm going to read that and I journal. 1186 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,560 I'm a notorious journaler and I'm writing notes. 1187 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,760 They don't mean a thing to anybody but me, but I'm trying 1188 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:11,280 to isolate the steak. And so I want to read and I want 1189 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:16,280 to digest, and I want to absorb so that there can be 1190 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,080 applications. So over these next few weeks, 1191 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,200 how do I observe it? All right? 1192 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,520 How do I look at it? What does it mean? 1193 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,520 I mean, And what we're talking about is what did it mean in its 1194 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,160 original context. One of the basic truths of 1195 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,000 hermeneutics is the Bible can't mean what it didn't mean. 1196 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,240 It means what it meant. We can't make it mean something 1197 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,960 else. That's called isagesis where 1198 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,440 we're making it mean something. We want it to mean that it 1199 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:52,880 doesn't mean then So what? How does that apply in my life? 1200 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,760 How does it change who I need to be and what do I need to do? 1201 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,600 And so these next few weeks, we're going to walk through that 1202 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:05,320 very diligently, very as deeply as we possibly can using using 1203 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,160 Scripture and using examples to help us do that. 1204 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,680 But in the meantime, I get asked on a regular basis what 1205 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,319 translation I'm using and why. I started in the ESVA few years 1206 01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:19,880 ago. And so am I saying it's the 1207 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,840 perfect translation? No Am I saying it's the only 1208 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,600 translation? No. 1209 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,760 If you want to follow along with me when I'm reading mine in the 1210 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,000 slides, it's going to be ESV. Dylan's working hard to get me 1211 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,920 to change to CSV. Let's see. 1212 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,720 I can't go back to New King James because that's Clover and 1213 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,640 I can't go to CSB because that's Aunt, you know, that's Dylan. 1214 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,760 So I'm pretty stuck at ESV. That's how we decide things 1215 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,319 around here. Scientifically. 1216 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,359 It's a scientific method. Mine, mine, mine. 1217 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,760 No, it has nothing to do with any of that, obviously. 1218 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,040 But, but I've been in ESV for a long time and I'll just be 1219 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,000 honest with you, we used it as a textbook in seminary life a lot 1220 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:06,800 because of its literal life. So when I was taking Greek, let 1221 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,760 me finish with this. I'll pray. 1222 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,960 Sorry, thanks for keep popping in my head. 1223 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,960 So when I was so I took Greek. It's a long story flunked my 1224 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,720 first semester in Greek had to take it over again. 1225 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,600 Then I became AI took I became a minor. 1226 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,080 I did a minor in Greek and made A's and became real close to the 1227 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,880 professor, etcetera. So it was a different experience 1228 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,920 even then. Eventually taught it overseas. 1229 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:34,399 But but I remember in class I had a professor who wrote his 1230 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:41,560 own Greek textbook and he was about 5 foot 6 and wore about a 1231 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,080 15 shoe. And so it's kind of like Bozo 1232 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:49,000 the Clown teaching Greek. But Richard Cutter the third, 1233 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,520 he's long dead. So I'm safe baby. 1234 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:57,080 And you had to translate in class so he just call on you. 1235 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,440 You can't do that. Y'all don't know. 1236 01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:02,880 You young UNS don't know. See, in the old days, you know 1237 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,320 you, you and, and if you didn't know it, he'd throw a piece of 1238 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,840 chalk at you and hit you right in the head. 1239 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,720 That's no exaggeration. Or, or, or an eraser. 1240 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,640 And so you knew that if you didn't know, you ducked because 1241 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,320 that chalk, because it was chalkboard, you know, it wasn't 1242 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,840 whiteboard stuff. And so that that that piece of 1243 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,560 chalk or that eraser was coming right to and he was good at it. 1244 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,440 And so we learned a long time ago that, you know, we'd have 1245 01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:29,080 our greet. He had a big 8 1/2 by 11 Greek 1246 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,000 book that he wrote. So, you know, it's pretty good 1247 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,680 size. And we learned a long time ago, 1248 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,360 if you just kind of tilted that up, you could have your Bible 1249 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,400 right there. So we learned a long time ago 1250 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,680 that we needed to use a literal translation. 1251 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,240 So part of my love for the New American Standard was the fact 1252 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,880 that I could tilt my little new American Standard right up in 1253 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,160 there and my little 8 1/2 by 11 Greek a textbook. 1254 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,600 And when I got called on, I could, I could, I could read. 1255 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,880 I learned to read the New American Standard in Greek word 1256 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,480 order to make it sound really good. 1257 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:11,440 And then the chalk was coming. That's why that's I used to have 1258 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:17,320 hair. So thank you all so much. 1259 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,000 Let's pray together and, and I really do want there's a last 1260 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,640 sentence on your old handout. Be thankful to have the 1261 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:29,000 opportunity to engage the Bible in your language. 1262 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,240 I'm telling you, it's a privilege. 1263 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:40,440 It's also a responsibility. You have no excuse not to know 1264 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:47,000 what that book says. And so take that privilege and 1265 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:52,080 responsibility seriously. Father, we are so grateful that 1266 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,480 we could learn more about how your word came together. 1267 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,960 And Father, we very carefully, seriously, cautiously 1268 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,240 acknowledge that this is indeed your word. 1269 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:10,920 Father, it's a miracle that what we hold in our hands today could 1270 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:16,160 be so incredibly accurate to ancient, ancient manuscripts. 1271 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,920 There's no way in the world that could happen without your 1272 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,080 sovereign hand, your Holy Spirit guiding that. 1273 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,720 And Father, we know those original manuscripts, those 1274 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,400 original autographs, those original documents were fully 1275 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,680 inspired and infallible and inerrant. 1276 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,520 And so we're so thankful that we have translations today that are 1277 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,680 accurate and reliable, trustworthy. 1278 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,480 Help us to be wise and the ones we select. 1279 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,280 And then, Father, help us to be fervent, help us to be 1280 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,920 enthusiastic. Help us to be burning. 1281 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,680 Help us to be boiling in your spirit, to read and to chew and 1282 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,400 to study what that word really says. 1283 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,640 Not to rush through it, not to just pile it on the plate, see 1284 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,560 how much we can stuff in and move on. 1285 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:16,160 But Father, to savour it, to let it soak in, to to marry it to 1286 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:22,560 prayer and to allow it to change us and transform us to make us 1287 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:28,800 who we need to be. And then Father, I do pray very 1288 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:34,440 seriously that we will stop and we will say thank you for not 1289 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:37,480 only allowing us to have a personal copy of the Bible that 1290 01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:42,360 we can study like that. But thank you for the ability to 1291 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:47,960 come to a church and be in connect group and study with 1292 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:52,960 friends who want to help us dig in, who want to help us apply, 1293 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:58,120 who want to encourage us to be enthusiastic to to see how we 1294 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,320 can outdo one another with honor and love. 1295 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,960 And we can come and we can hear the words sung and we can hear 1296 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,280 the word preached and we can come back and, and, and engage 1297 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,280 in a study together about that word. 1298 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:17,360 What a privilege, what an honor. And Father, I just pray, Lord, I 1299 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,480 fear for him. Father, I fear for them, for the 1300 01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:25,760 people who have this opportunity and do not take advantage of it. 1301 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,360 Because, Father, one day I believe with all my heart, 1302 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,240 they're going to be reminded and held accountable. 1303 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,800 And so, Father, help us to be disciples. 1304 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:40,280 Help us to pursue, help us to seek, help us to find in your 1305 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,720 word. And I pray, Father, that you'll 1306 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,520 feed us, lead us to be fully satisfied. 1307 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,640 Thank you. Thank you for the the group here 1308 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,880 tonight. Father, we do lift up friends 1309 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,760 who are sick. And Father, we know many who are 1310 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,200 healing. I pray, Father, you'll bring us 1311 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,560 back Sunday for us to worship you and to bring you the glory. 1312 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,240 Thank you, Father in Christ's name, Amen. 1313 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,080 Thank you so much for listening today, and I also hope that 1314 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,600 you'll go to ourwebsite@englewoodbaptist.com 1315 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,640 as well as our app and find many other resources that will bless 1316 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,840 you and your families. Thank you once again.