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Hey everybody, and welcome back 
to the Scrappy Piano Teacher 

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Podcast, the show for 
independent piano teachers who 

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are building studios with heart,
grit, and a heck of a lot of 

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coffee. 
I'm your host, Jacqueline, and 

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today's episode is when you're 
going to want to bookmark. 

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I am chatting with William 
Perry, the creator of Piano 

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Music Database, a powerful tool 
built by a teacher for teachers.

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And if you've ever found 
yourself frantically flipping 

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through books, scrolling 
screenshots, or begging Facebook

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groups for music ideas midway 
through a lesson, Yup, I do that

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here all the time. 
Well, I have to tell you. 

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William's story and this 
resource are about to change how

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you plan, search, and organize 
music for your students. 

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You're going to love this. 
I'm going to jump right in. 

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Thanks for being here. 
Hi teachers, thank you so much 

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for joining me today. 
I have a special guest who I've 

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been wanting to have on my 
podcast for a long time, Liam 

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Perry, and you are joining us 
from Piano Music Database. 

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But before we get into that, I 
want to talk a little bit more 

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about you as a teacher because I
know you because you're here in 

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Cincinnati with me. 
But if you wouldn't mind just 

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sharing a little bit about who 
you are, your background as a 

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pianist of? 
Course, Yeah, Yeah, I'm in 

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Cincinnati now. 
I love Cincinnati. 

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It's a great town, a lot of 
great music. 

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It's a great place to be. 
MTNA is headquartered here, so 

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it's a, It's a lot going on. 
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I been playing piano my whole 
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I did not come from a musical 
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My parents are not musical. 
Nobody in my family does music. 

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So I sort of stumbled upon music
on my own first or second grade.

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A student brought in a keyboard 
to show and tell and was like, 

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playing it for everyone. 
And they were all like, Oh my 

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God, this is so cool. 
So I saw that and I was like, I 

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I need to play piano. 
This seems really exciting. 

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I started taking piano lessons. 
My parents always told me that I

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was a very good practicer and 
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practice. 
I really enjoyed enjoyed piano 

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as a child. 
I guess like a ideal student or 

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something. 
I started getting very serious 

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into piano in high school and 
applied to college and and went 

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to undergrad for piano 
performance and in school 

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started teaching piano at the 
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piano. 
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experience being able to do that
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From there, decided that I would
study pedagogy and so for my 

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graduate program is in was in 
piano performance and pedagogy 

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at Florida State University. 
Since then I've been teaching in

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Florida. 
I'm from Florida and then moved 

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to Ohio in 2020 right during the
pandemic and I've been teaching 

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at academies in in Cincinnati 
and then now I have my own 

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studio in Pleasant Ridge. 
I did. 

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Not know you were from Florida? 
I know that you're good friends 

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with my good friend Jill, which 
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My wife and I met who is also a 
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Her name is Ariadne and we met 
teaching piano at Piano Academy 

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in Tampa, FL and we were both 
there for I was there for two 

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years, she was there for one 
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She left to go to CCM for her 
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We met there, we started dating,
and then I just followed her up 

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to Cincinnati. 
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I think that Jill was already 
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remember how they met, but it's 
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way. 
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impression you all went to CCM 
together, so I just learned 

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something completely new about. 
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attached myself to CCM stuff 
even though I never went there. 

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Well, it's great people, it's a 
great place to attach yourself 

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to. 
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of started it and now you're 
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So start to a wonderful musical 
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So you guys being teachers, is 
that how you got the idea for 

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Piano Music Database? 
Were you seeing a need and you 

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wanted to fill it? 
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really. 
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I've been teaching for a while, 
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We weren't in a method book. 
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concepts I was introducing to 
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bluntly, like, I don't like this
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I can't play this one, I don't 
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So I was always looking for 
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was kind of a pain because there
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that were doing or that were 
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that I was looking for, giving 
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looking for. 
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own spreadsheets for, for 
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and coming up with the teaching 
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like have like a list of pieces 
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this was something that other 
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interested in. 
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who is a web developer, and I 
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spreadsheet into a website or 
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use? 
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started to take off for me. 
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2020, right during the pandemic.
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random lists of music in 
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something on social media and 
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but everything is so scattered. 
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at stuff, which is usually in 
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never know where to look, like 
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that? 
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Is that in Word? 
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would make so much more sense 
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organizer. 
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analytical brain, which maybe 
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but in this case, putting both 
of my interests together, I just

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am like obsessed with organizing
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how everything works together 
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me kind of a broad sense of, of,
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So this project just sort of 
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nicely into my. 
I love that. 

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OK, so and let's talk about 
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So this is much more than just 
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your computer. 
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filters and different things. 
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exactly this database is and why
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Yes. 
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thousands of pieces, myself and 
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with on this project, we go in 
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concepts in the pieces. 
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key signature, the time 
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piece, the style, any kind of 
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trains or whatever the piece 
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That's important. 
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And so every piece that goes 
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data points and that allows 
teachers who are using it to 

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then apply filters to find 
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points that they need in their 
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And it's very like specific for,
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So imagine like you have a late 
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skills with 8th notes. 
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about animals, for example. 
So you can find all those things

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really easily in the database. 
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filter, you click it and you do 
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notes teaching concept, and then
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And it's just going to show you 
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where the pieces match all three
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You can imagine like how long 
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sources where it'd be like I'm 
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guidebook and I'm just flipping 
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behind. 
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to what I'm looking for. 
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searching through my anthologies
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would be very time consuming. 
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that effort that you would that 
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in different locations, putting 
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giving you the power to search 
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collect. 
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I think it's Joy. 
Morin just had a recital and it 

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was food themed. 
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themes. 
I think it's such a great idea. 

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And I know that's gonna be hard 
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You know, maybe it is jungle 
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thing. 
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stuff up in your database. 
I have done that for my own 

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students for their recitals cuz 
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So yeah, it's very easy on the 
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You just go to the search page 
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like type your own themes out 
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You can find closely related 
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So like if we just had spring 
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to find pieces about spring, I 
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tag for spring and it would show
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so pieces that have spring 
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And then I could go through and 
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So I could find a spring piece 
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I could find a spring piece for 
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all the way up to like master 
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that. 
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and it would be pretty simple. 
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that would save somebody, I 
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took hours of research and put 
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That's amazing. 
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research for you. 
Like ahead of time we were going

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through and categorizing all the
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So then you don't have to do 
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So is this just supplemental 
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well? 
Is it a little bit of everything

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you're just always adding we? 
Have a little bit of everything 

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we have. 
We just now started working 

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through method books. 
We have several of them already 

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in the database and we are 
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So that's in there. 
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by like modern living composers,
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pedagogical like. 
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as well. 
Public domain music by all of 

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the famous composers. 
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lot of our effort on getting 
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the database too, so you can use
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everything. 
I love that so much. 

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So let's say that you have this 
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Do you have websites and all 
that good stuff on how to access

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the music if we need to purchase
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Yes, so, but we are in, in a 
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If you're familiar with Kayak 
where you go and it's got all 

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the hotels that fit your 
criteria and then from there you

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go to the hotel's website or 
someplace else to buy them. 

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You the the hotel. 
So we're kind of like that. 

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We show you all the pieces, you 
go to the pieces page and you 

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can see all the information 
about it, the video and all 

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that. 
And then it will show you all 

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the different locations where 
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So most of the time Sheet music 
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we are just linking directly to 
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directly to the publishers 
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If it's a public domain piece, 
we'll do all of that, plus we'll

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show the IMSLP page for it. 
So you'll have an option if you 

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want to buy a newer edition of 
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Or if you want to wade through 
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find a free 1, you could do that
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Wow. 
OK, hold on. 

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You said videos. 
Does that mean that we get to 

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preview the music? 
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As well. 
So we'll go to YouTube and we'll

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try to find the best recording 
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So most of the music has a 
recording, but not everything 

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has a recording yet. 
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maybe 85 to 90% of the pieces 
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So we've just linked those. 
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helped me with this and they'll 
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leveling. 
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review of it all before it gets 
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So what do you want to work on 
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Do you want to work on a special
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something a little bit 
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So I could pull up this website 
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and we could decide right then 
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Oh yeah, put. 
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to like put everything into 
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that for me because like the 
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enough, but also being able to 
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music, is very exciting to me 
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I am like miss post it notes 
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that something you've been 
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being easy to use. 
It's just a website. 

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downloaded first or anything. 
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phone and we try to design it so
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there's only enough information 
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things on the UI. 
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if you're used to like shopping 
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to sort and that sort of thing. 
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sites that have search engines 
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there's not a big learning curve
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OK, awesome. 
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shopping on Amazon, so we'll be 
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Played around with your website.
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meaning to get on there because 
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me at the MTNA, which by the 
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NCKPI saw you posted on a post, 
you're going to have a zoo there

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as well. 
OK, so everybody needs to visit 

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William at NCKP for sure. 
And you'll be wowed by this if 

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you don't just jump on and do it
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So I know that at NCKP you plan 
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announcements, but until then 
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some stuff out. 
So how can a teacher join and 

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can they access all the 
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Do they need to pay for it? 
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How is it work right now? 
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You can access all of the 

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ability to favorite a work and 
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lists of works. 
All that is free for now for you

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to try out and basically give us
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we are developing the features 
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And then at NCKP, when we 
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for for everybody who signed up 
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Oh wow. 
So it's pretty much like if we 

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Join Now early June, you pretty 
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week free in depth trial is how 
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When you try, when you sign up 
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of helping us shape the the 
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You're giving us feedback, 
useful feedback about how we can

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develop the product and make it 
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So, so it is as a thank you for 
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codes afterwards. 
So awesome. 

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OK, so it's been up there for a 
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So have you gotten any feedback 
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you as you've released this beta
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who are, we're just very excited
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they'll tell me, oh, I, I don't 
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something like this. 
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the energy to, to make a project
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And it is, it's really great to 
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is a lot of work, you know, like
every piece that goes in you 

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have to do an in depth analysis 
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the piano repertoire is endless.
It just keeps going and going. 

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More people are making music and
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music going backwards too. 
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software to find music for their
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using it in their pedagogy 
classes, which has been really 

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awesome to hear. 
So just a lot of positive 

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feedback in terms of like the 
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like how complex it is. 
It's been great. 

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It has to be so encouraging too,
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to hear that. 
I wouldn't even think about them

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using that in classes. 
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Sometimes I hear these things 
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have access to and I think about
20 years ago when I was, you 

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know, a new teacher and I'm 
thinking how did I no wonder why

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I literally just stuck with the 
same method book for so many 

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years and now we can just do 
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So I. 
This is great. 

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I remember doing that when I was
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And I actually, I find that I 
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feeling when I'm on the website 
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through books. 
I have a lot more information 

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about it than like perusing 
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then go and go to the composer's
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composer and then go from the 
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of theirs. 
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connections for all the music, 
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music and just kind of browsing 
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confine. 
That's a great feeling. 

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And yes, it is digital and so 
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feeling of opening up a book, 
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much as possible in the sort of 
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I, yeah, I and you know what 
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beginning is how you try to link
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you try to get to that page. 
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a big deal and it makes me want 
to go on there and support it 

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just so that I can support them 
directly as much as possible. 

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So if somebody wants to try it 
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pianomusicdatabase.com? 
Is that right? 

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That is it. 
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get. 
That'll take you to the home 

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page and you can create an 
account there and that'll open 

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up all of the features of the 
site for you. 

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So they can just go to the 
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their free account, they'll get 
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Is that right? 
And then are there other ways to

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connect if we want to do so 
before all that good stuff 

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happens? 
Yes, there's a Facebook group 

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that we just started. 
It's just called Piano Music 

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Database Users and anybody who 
creates an account can sign up 

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as a member of that group. 
And that will be our community 

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hub for for the database where 
you can ask questions from me 

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and other people on the team, 
connect with other users. 

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We've got composers and 
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They'll probably be promoting 

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their music. 
It will make promotions with 

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them, let you know about new, 
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database. 
You'll also get to vote on new 

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features to come to the database
or new music that we're going to

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add. 
We want to make sure that we're 

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connecting with our users and 
giving our users what they feel 

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like they need. 
So if you want more from us and 

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you want to connect with us at 
the very beginning of this 

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project, the Facebook group is 
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that. 
And it's free. 

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It doesn't cost anything to go 
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Yeah. 
So if any composers are 

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listening, they need to 
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Yes, for sure. 
And we have any composer or 

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publisher can create an account 
and start adding their music 

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themselves. 
So we already have lots of 

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composers who have started to do
that, especially independent 

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composers who just have their 
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their music that way. 
This is a really great 

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opportunity to to promote your 
music to piano teachers. 

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Because when a teacher goes to 
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piece and they've put in all of 
their characteristics that 

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they're looking for and they 
find a piece that matches 

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everything, you know that 
they're very likely to then go 

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and buy that music because they 
already know that it matches 

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what they need. 
When by the time we send our 

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user over to your site, they're 
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We are trying to help everyone 
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Bigger publishers can be on the 
site and smaller independent 

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composers can get benefit from 
it as much. 

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And you are also on Instagram, 
so if somebody is not on 

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Facebook, you can go to 
Instagram, but they should 

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definitely join that Facebook 
page and then they can connect 

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with you directly from there if 
they have any questions. 

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And there's there's contact 
buttons on the site. 

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Every page of the site has like 
a feedback too. 

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So if you ever run into an 
issue, there's ways to contact 

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us directly if like something is
wrong or you have a question. 

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Awesome. 
I am so excited for you. 

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All right, well, William, this 
was awesome. 

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Thank you so much for joining 
me. 

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And I'm I'm going to look, I'm 
going to be watching. 

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I'm excited to see where the 
sun's up. 

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Yeah. 
Thanks for having me. 

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Thanks for letting me come on 
and talk about things. 

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Thanks. 
I really appreciate. 

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It listen that's so good. 
Thank you William. 

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Big thank you to William for 
sharing both the behind the 

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scenes work and all of the 
incredible ways teachers can 

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start using piano music database
right now. 

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And if you found this helpful, 
which I know you did, be sure to

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leave a five star review on your
favorite podcast app for yours 

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truly. 
And because I mean, hello, it 

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helps other piano teachers just 
like you find the show and feel 

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a little less alone in chaos. 
Also, come hang out with me on 

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the brand new YouTube channel 
The Scrappy Piano Teacher. 

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I'll be posting more this 
summer. 

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I'm going to post some extra 
stuff to you with some goodies 

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like reviews and all that kind 
of stuff. 

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And don't forget to subscribe at
the Scrappy pianoteacher.com so 

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you can stay in the loop with 
all the happenings. 

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Plus grab some new free 
resources the second day drop. 

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Thanks for listening all you 
Scrappy Vienna teachers. 

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I'm so thankful for you and I 
will see you next time. 

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Bye.