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I'm Ronnie and you're listening 
to Clean With Me, the podcast 

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where I walk you through 
cleaning your house step by 

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step. 
When you clean along with this 

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show, you'll get more done in 
less time, so you can spend the 

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rest of your day doing what 
matters most to you. 

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Thanks for joining me. 
In today's episode, we're going 

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to be working in your bedroom 
and I'm going to talk you 

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through decluttering your 
drawers and closet. 

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It's going to be fun. 
And by the end of the episode, 

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you're going to be way more 
organized than you were to begin

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with. 
And you're going to love your 

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clothes again. 
Let's get right into the 

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episode. 
So the first thing I want you to

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do is grab up any dirty laundry 
that you have and take it to the

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laundry room and start a load of
laundry. 

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That way your washing machine's 
working for you while you're 

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working in your bedroom. 
And then the other thing I want 

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you to do, if it has not already
been done, is make your bed 

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because you're going to need a 
place to put things and that 

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gives you a nice staging area 
and it also makes your room look

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better immediately and that can 
improve your outlook. 

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You might also want to shut your
door and lock it because I'm 

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going to be encouraging you to 
try some things on so that you 

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can make the decisions about 
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If you came to clean your house,
listen to one of our other 

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episodes. 
But obviously decluttering makes

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it easier to clean. 
And no, I'm not going to make 

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you get rid of all your stuff, 
but I'm going to help you make 

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those hard decisions with real 
life examples. 

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I literally just decluttered my 
drawers and closet. 

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So I experienced all of those 
emotions and they're fresh and 

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I've got lots of examples to 
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So hopefully you are starting a 
load of laundry and making your 

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bed. 
You might also want to just 

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quickly pick up your bed bedroom
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In the last bonus episode for 
financial supporters, I talked 

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about how important it is to do 
that surface cleaning in your 

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bedroom and not get sidetracked 
by decluttering your wardrobe 

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and dealing with a lot of 
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But that was that episode. 
Now it's time to actually do 

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some decluttering. 
But at the same time, you might 

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want to just do a quick pickup 
of your bedroom floor. 

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You made your bed, so you might 
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the floor. 
This is not the type of 

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decluttering session where we're
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the process. 
I don't know about you, but I 

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don't like to even empty an 
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decluttering. 
I like to keep things real, 

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manageable and not make much of 
a mess at all. 

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Of course, there's a time and a 
place for vacuuming out a drawer

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and completely emptying it, but 
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decluttering session, so this 
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any drawers. 
I'm going to give you about one 

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more minute to get ready for 
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Hopefully you've started a load 
of laundry, made your bed, and 

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done a quick straighten of your 
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Another thing you may want to do
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In fact, this is pretty 
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I grabbed a paper shopping bag 
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You know how sometimes you're 
you're out shopping, you get 

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something big and they give you 
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with handles. 
Those make great donation bags. 

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So I had one of those in my 
closet and started putting items

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into that bag. 
So hopefully by now you're ready

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to get started. 
Now, you might want to start in 

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a specific drawer of your 
dresser, or you might want to 

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start with another area where 
you've kind of set some things 

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aside. 
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over the course of seven or 
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And there was a point where I 
tried on some things that were a

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little bit loose and I was kind 
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and planned to just keep going. 
And so I took some things out of

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circulation that actually still 
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They were just tiny bit loose in
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It was mainly jeans and shorts, 
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top of my closet because I kind 
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shouldn't donate them, but I 
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because I was excited that I had
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sense. 
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decluttering session, I pulled 
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top shelf of my closet where I 
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I grabbed a chair, got all of 
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just started trying it on. 
A couple items did go into the 

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donation bag, but a lot of them 
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I showed him to my husband. 
I'm like, do these look baggy or

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do these look? 
He loved it that I was just 

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modeling all these clothes, but 
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judge each each thing and we 
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So basically I decided to keep 
some stuff and that's rare 

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usually like when in doubt throw
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But I decided to keep some 
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But I was just in a really weird
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My point is it was a rare 
situation where I had set some 

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things aside kind of in a think 
about it pile and some of them 

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went back into circulation and a
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but only a couple. 
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are that you want to start with 
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And I know for a while the Marie
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I brought, I bought the the 
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I'm not going to say I'm Marie 
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the book. 
I really didn't. 

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I feel like it did give me some 
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but it didn't really resonate 
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With her method, it was like, 
you put everything, all of your 

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clothes in a pile or something. 
Yeah, that's overwhelming to me.

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By the way, some of you might be
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you a minimalist or are you a 
clothes horse, which you don't 

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hear that term very often 
anymore, but it's someone who 

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has a lot of clothes. 
I feel like I'm very middle of 

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the road. 
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You're supposed to be sorting 
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keep pile. 
Pulling everything out is 

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overwhelming for me. 
So I like to look at items of a 

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certain category. 
I made a pile of jeans, tried 

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them on jeans and Jean shorts. 
OK, so that's a good category to

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start with. 
One pair that I threw away had a

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huge ink blot on it. 
I could have made them into cut 

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offs, but I have enough cut 
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I I like to break things down 
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So let's talk about what to do 
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You need to either hide or get 
rid of clothes that don't fit 

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your body today. 
Here's what I mean by hiding 

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them. 
I was talking to a listener and 

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I already touched on this in 
another episode, so I'm just 

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going to do a quick recap. 
I was talking to a listener who 

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her weight has always 
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to get rid of all of her stuff. 
And let's face it, a lot of 

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influencers are like telling us 
to get rid of things that don't 

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fit us right now because we 
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again and it's going to make us 
feel bad, this and that. 

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But not all of us can afford new
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So this was my advice to this 
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She lives alone and has another 
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some clothes in it. 
I said organize your wardrobe 

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and just put everything that 
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other room and then in your 
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Everything in there should be 
something that fits you now, 

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that you feel good in now and 
that you wear now and it's going

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to do 2 things. 
It's going to keep you from 

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feeling bad about not fitting 
into those other items, and it's

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also going to help you get ready
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to be sorting through things 
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And maybe the things that didn't
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one side of her closet. 
But still, she would be able to 

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kind of spread her things out a 
little bit more and not have her

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closet so jam packed if her main
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stuff that she currently wears. 
So I thought that was a great 

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solution and I said there 
probably are some things that 

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you need to get rid of. 
I mean, you know, we've all 

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bought trendy items like, I 
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like I just had to have a long 
maxi dress that was a Chevron 

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pattern and a long maxi skirt 
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And it was just all the rage. 
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And now that looks really dated.
So yes, there are some things 

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that are outdated, but I feel 
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we're not buying as many trendy 
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A trendy piece that I got, I 
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before time flies, I don't know,
was kind of a crop sweater with 

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like large holes in it. 
It's kind of a mesh. 

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I don't know if I'm ready to get
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But one reason I might get rid 
of something is if I've been 

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photographed too much in the 
item and it's kind of a trendy 

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item. 
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photographed too much and just a
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But these items that are super 
specific and trendy, you 

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especially don't want to be 
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after year. 
I'm not just at an age where I 

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don't care what I wear or 
something like that, but at the 

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same time, I try to choose 
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I rarely buy trendy items. 
Like I thought about that 

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specific sweater, but I rarely 
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I buy stuff that's in style but 
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way. 
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were saying like skinny jeans 
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Now they're saying they might be
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never fully went out. 
Maybe for a teenager in high 

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school. 
Yeah, I wasn't making my 

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daughter where I'm to school or 
something, But I feel like they 

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were still in for people my age.
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still selling them in the 
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I mean, when something's totally
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So maybe this will help you. 
By the way, you're supposed to 

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be sorting things into a 
donation bag, a keep pile, and 

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then maybe put things in the 
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Or you might even have a fourth 
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OK, I don't want to go off on a 
rabbit trail about selling 

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things, but I did go through a 
phase a while back where I was 

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selling clothes on eBay. 
I have friends who have a knack 

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for getting things that are name
brands and then selling them to 

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consignment shops. 
If that's something that you 

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enjoy doing and you have the 
time to do it, a lot of times 

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full full time homemakers do 
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Or for some people, this is 
their hustle. 

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They find something in a thrift 
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But, but for a lot of us, we 
don't really have the time or 

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want to make the time because 
you make time for what you want 

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to do. 
A lot of us just don't want to 

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do it. 
We're not in the season of life 

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where we want to do that. 
So you might have a pile for 

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stuff that you could sell. 
It is really hard in my 

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experience, to sell things to 
consignment shops because like I

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was saying, most of my clothes 
are not name brands and they 

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only want things in certain 
seasons, certain brands, and 

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then they give you pennies on 
the dollar for it. 

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But don't get me wrong, some 
people have a knack for it and 

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they do great with it. 
Like they get something 

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secondhand to begin with and 
then sell it to a consignment 

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shop and it's it's a win win. 
But for a lot of us, we're just 

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going to donate the stuff. 
It's it's either going to be 

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keep trash or donate. 
OK, but you should be sorting 

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things into those piles. 
But the stuff I'm talking about 

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is to help you make decisions. 
OK, So obviously, we all deal 

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with clothes that don't fit our 
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They're too small or they're too
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And one school of thought is to 
get rid of everything that 

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doesn't fit you now because by 
the time it fits you, it might 

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be out of style. 
But at the same time, if you 

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know your weight historically 
fluctuates, you might want to do

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what I told this listener to do 
and move things into a different

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closet. 
And you might be saying, I don't

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have, you know, an empty closet.
Like every room in my house, it 

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says occupied. 
I've got kids. 

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OK, I get that. 
But there are those, like, flat 

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containers, flat plastic 
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your clothing, like under the 
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I have a section in my closet 
that's kind of a hidden corner 

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that I like to put things. 
I put seasonal items in there. 

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Like, that's where you would 
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shirts. 
I have a couple of those. 

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They're in a corner that you 
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and the beginning of fall. 
I usually put some sleeveless 

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tops in that corner. 
I do wear the knit tank tops, 

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like his undershirts throughout 
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tops that I would wear as 
standalones go into that corner.

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So that's kind of how I sort my 
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But I don't have like tons of 
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But yeah, I realized that some 
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things that you're never going 
to fit into it again. 

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Like, I don't know if you're as 
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I'm over 50 years old. 
OK. 

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I'm not going to get back to my 
high school weight. 

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I wouldn't look good at that 
weight. 

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Here's the kind of the mic drop 
moment, I guess, about weight 

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fluctuations. 
You're clothes that are too 

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small aren't making you smaller 
by holding on to those, and your

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clothes that are too big for you
aren't making you gain weight. 

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Your size has nothing to do with
what kind of clothes are in your

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closet, you know, So don't tell 
yourself that staring at these 

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small things is going to 
motivate you. 

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It probably is not, so you might
want to store them out of sight 

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or get rid of them. 
Either way is fine and there's a

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case you know there's pros and 
cons of each. 

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Another thing is just items that
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I have a quick story for that. 
A dear lady gave me a dress and 

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she was excited about giving it 
to me and I graciously accepted 

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it. 
I took it home, tried it on and 

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just thought, who am I kidding, 
I will never wear this, I will 

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never wear this and it just 
wasn't my style. 

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It was flattering, whatever, but
it just it was kind of dated. 

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It wasn't my style, but she's so
sweet, love her dearly, didn't 

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want to offend her. 
She's an older lady. 

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She won't hear this podcast. 
The dress look too old for me 

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for sure and it went in the 
donation bag today. 

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But at first, I was keeping it 
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thinking, what if she asks about
it or maybe I should make an 

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appearance around her one time 
in it and just, you know, wear a

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long sweater over it. 
So not all of the dress shows. 

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You know, these are things that 
crossed my mind. 

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But what ended up happening is 
she said, so did that dress fit?

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Yeah, it did. 
Thanks again. 

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And I wasn't lying. 
It did fit when I tried it on. 

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So I kept it for an appropriate 
length of time, which is maybe a

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couple months. 
And it's in the donation bag 

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now. 
So you can release items someone

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gave you that you never wear. 
Most people are not going to 

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question you on why they haven't
seen you in the item. 

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I mean, appreciate the gift and 
the person's good intention and 

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you know, there's no need to 
embarrass them. 

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And some people you're closer to
and you can just be like, no, to

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be honest, I will never wear 
that. 

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Like my mom recently over 
Thanksgiving told me to go 

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shopping in her closet. 
Well, it's my mom, so I'm 

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totally honest with her and oh, 
that looks good. 

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You know, she had me try on a 
bunch of stuff and I was like, I

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will probably never wear this. 
Like, I just told her what I 

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wasn't going to wear and I 
didn't take anything that I 

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wasn't going to wear. 
And my mom's picky about what 

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she wears too, so she totally 
gets it. 

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But sometimes there are 
situations where the person's 

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really excited to give it, give 
something to you, and you've got

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to accept it. 
Like I have an aunt who loves 

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thrifting and giving people 
stuff. 

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And some of the stuff is really 
odd, but we all graciously 

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accept it for the most part. 
So it is OK to graciously accept

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something but then donate it 
because you know, you're never 

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going to wear it, pass it on. 
And I'm not going to get into 

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where to donate stuff. 
But there are so many different 

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places that accept clothing and 
you can choose which 'cause that

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you're really into. 
Even if there there's a charity 

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with a thrift store and you're 
not sure what percentage of it 

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goes to charity or you know it's
a really small percent. 

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You can think of it this way. 
People who do not have much 

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money are able to purchase your 
items for only a couple bucks at

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a thrift store. 
And if it wasn't for people like

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you donating stuff, then they'd 
have to pay full price and get 

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it at a department store or or 
even Walmart where it's going to

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cost them more. 
So you're helping people in a 

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lot of different ways. 
It's common for thrift stores to

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hire people who are recovering 
drug addicts or who have 

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disabilities. 
So you're helping to provide 

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jobs for people who otherwise 
might struggle to find a job. 

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So there's my little talk on 
donating, but also no judgement 

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here. 
If you just throw something away

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because there's not a good place
to donate, you live out in the 

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middle of nowhere or something. 
OK, don't come at me for that. 

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I don't want anyone to be a 
slave to their stuff. 

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But usually it's good to just 
put it in a bag, put it in the 

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back of your car, and then 
you're going to end up driving 

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by a place where you can donate 
it later on. 

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It might be in the back of your 
car for a couple months. 

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That's OK. 
And hopefully you're just 

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sorting through things, but and 
trying things on. 

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If if you come across something 
and you're like, I don't know if

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this fits, try it on. 
Or here's another example. 

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There's a shirt that I bought 
fairly recently. 

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I was super excited to find it, 
but it shrunk and it got a 

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little short and it wasn't too 
short. 

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And I was telling myself, oh, 
it's OK, I'll wear an undershirt

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under it or I'll wear it with 
higher waisted pants. 

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But the problem was just the 
shape of it and where it hit at 

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the waistline didn't look good 
anymore once it shrunk. 

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And I don't care how heavy you 
are, how thin you are, it's very

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important where something hits 
around the waistline. 

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Just how things hit. 
It's important. 

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And we're all different shapes 
and sizes. 

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Anyway, I got rid of the shirt 
because I remembered the last 

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time I put it on, I just didn't 
want to wear it. 

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And so I tried it again to kind.
I tried it on again to kind of 

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refresh my memory. 
And it was like, yeah, I think 

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what it is is just where it hits
because I have lots of things 

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that are this short that come 
right to the waist. 

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Now that I put it on, it's just 
not flattering the way it hits 

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me at the waistline. 
Tossed it. 

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It was super cheap anyway. 
That's probably why it shrunk. 

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OK, but let me just go on a 
rabbit trail here. 

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I see people who are dressing 
ultra trendy and in doing so, 

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they're wearing things that are 
not flattering to their figure. 

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You know, sometimes there's a 
temptation to get on a bandwagon

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and, you know, get something 
that you see a lot of people 

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have and it looks good on them 
and it doesn't mean it's going 

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to look good on you. 
So I guess I guess what I'm 

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saying is the older I get, I 
realize that certain things work

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well with my figure and I'm not 
going to wear things that are 

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just outdated or whatever, but 
I'm also not going to buy a 

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bunch of trendy items that are 
not flattering to my figure. 

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Like I'm going to go moderate 
and wear things that hit me 

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right at the waist. 
I think the most important thing

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when dressing for your figure is
how things hit you at the waist.

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Like some people should not be 
wearing a dress that's tight in 

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the waist. 
Some people should not be 

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wearing a high waisted shirt 
with a high waisted skirt with 

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their shirt tucked in. 
You know, certain shirts can 

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look too boxy on you. 
I can hold up a shirt without 

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even trying it on and know 
whether it's going to be 

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flattering to my figure. 
Call me picky or whatever, but 

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I'm not going to buy something 
just because it's trendy. 

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So that's another category of 
things that you're going to get 

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rid of, things that do not look 
good on you. 

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And if you come across an item 
and you remember a time where 

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you put it on and then decided 
not to wear it, time dims the 

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memory and you might be thinking
you want to give it another 

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chance, try it back on and then 
make the decision. 

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Like I said, I, I, I want you to
try things on. 

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Because what happens if you 
don't try things on during a 

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wardrobe decluttering session is
you're going to make these maybe

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piles or these procrastination 
piles and you're going to have 

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these doom boxes. 
And I want you to just try it on

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and make the decision now, you 
know, instead of wasting your 

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time the next time you're 
getting ready for an event and 

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put on that same thing that you 
keep rejecting, try it on. 

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Now get it out of your system. 
Get rid of it, OK? 

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And maybe if you were in a weird
mindset where you tried to get 

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rid of all of your genes because
you thought you were going to 

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lose 10 or 15 more pounds and 
then didn't try them back on 

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and, you know, maybe decide to 
bring them back into circulation

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like I did. 
But needing to bring things back

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into circulation is pretty rare.
And it wouldn't have hurt me if 

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I had just donated them because 
I have plenty of jeans. 

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So, you know, is what it is. 
I'm kind of glad that I didn't 

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because now I have even more. 
And there was still a part of me

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that was thinking, yeah, but I'm
going to lose more weight, and 

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I'm not going to have these. 
I'll just say it. 

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I have pants ranging anywhere 
from size eights to fourteens. 

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I only have one pair of eight. 
OK, probably the most common 

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size I have in jeans is 12. 
OK, I wear a lot of twelves. 

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I wear several 10s. 
I have one pair of dressy pants 

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that I wear when I'm working at 
the school that are eights. 

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It's kind of a fluke, I guess, 
and I have a couple pairs of 

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jeans that are fourteens and I 
wanted to get rid of them 

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because of that number. 
But that's ridiculous. 

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And you can always do what my 
sister-in-law used to do years 

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ago. 
I don't mind throwing this 

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person under the bus at all. 
Years ago, my sister-in-law gave

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me some maternity clothes. 
And, you know, she's a 

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competitive type, and she cut 
the size tags off of them so 

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that I wouldn't know what size 
there they were. 

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I mean, it, it was just comical 
because like, how am I going to 

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judge her for being a certain 
size when I'm going to put them 

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on and wear them? 
Like, obviously she thought 

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they'd fit me and they did fit 
me, but she didn't want me to 

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know what size they were. 
And no, she didn't cut the tags 

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out to make the clothes more 
comfortable. 

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She literally told me that that 
she didn't want me to know what 

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size they were. 
Don't even get me started on 

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this person. 
But nobody can really pin me 

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down on which side of the family
this person is on or which 

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sister-in-law it is. 
So I'm going to get away with 

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it. 
I'm not going to make a short 

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clip isolating this moment, but 
I'm going to get away with it. 

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And if I don't, I don't. 
It's still, it's still really 

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weird. 
So yeah, don't get hung up on 

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the sizes. 
Try them on is my point there. 

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Hopefully you're plugging away 
at sorting things into piles 

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without making a huge mess in 
the process. 

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Another category of clothing to 
get rid of is stuff that just 

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doesn't fit your lifestyle. 
For example, I used to go to 

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churches that were super dressy.
But sometimes it's a combination

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of things. 
You move to another part of the 

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country where people are less 
formal. 

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Overtime our society as a whole 
has gotten more casual. 

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So combination of me moving to 
another part of the country 

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where people don't dress up as 
much for church and the fact 

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that society is getting more 
casual as a whole, and the fact 

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that I go to a more relaxed 
style of church than I is to so 

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many different factors. 
But Long story short, I don't 

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need as much dressy clothing. 
Now don't get me wrong, I still 

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like to put on a dress for 
church. 

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I'm not just, you know, wearing 
jeans every time or something, 

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but I do sometimes wear pants if
it's super cold or if I just 

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don't feel like coordinating 
some dress outfit with the 

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perfect shoes and fake tanning 
stuff on my legs or whatever, 

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I'll just put on pants because 
it's easier. 

443
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000
Sometimes I feel like just 
wearing jeans. 

444
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,600
I'm recording this on a Sunday. 
I wore jeans and a dressy blouse

445
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,880
today and we actually go to two 
different churches and one of 

446
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000
them's even more casual than the
other. 

447
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520
But I, I definitely wear jeans 
to either church. 

448
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,960
Again, I do have dresses and 
stuff, but I don't need a bunch 

449
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,720
of unique dressy church outfits.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely

450
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,800
dress up for weddings, funerals,
job interviews, if you know, if 

451
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,320
that comes up. 
I, I definitely, I'm a firm 

452
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,400
believer in the little black 
dress. 

453
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,040
I have two of them. 
I have one black dress that's 

454
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,640
kind of short and sleeveless and
then I have another one that's 

455
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,600
long sleeve and more form 
fitting, but not short. 

456
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,800
So I either do short or I do 
tight, but I don't do short and 

457
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240
tight together. 
I'm, I'm not a prude or 

458
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560
anything, but I don't do short 
and tight at the same time. 

459
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,520
I either do tight or I do short.
So anyway, it's not that short. 

460
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800
But anyway, if you have a black 
dress, you can accessorize it at

461
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,920
different in different ways and 
you're definitely ready for a 

462
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,200
funeral or a formal dinner of 
some sort. 

463
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Since I go to church, I'm ready 
for a wedding. 

464
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,000
The only thing I don't really 
have is like an actual formal. 

465
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,640
And I think the only reason I 
would need that is if I went on 

466
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,600
a cruise a while back. 
My best friend Amy, who handles 

467
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,320
my social media on Facebook, her
and her husband put a deposit 

468
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,720
down on a cruise for us to go 
with them on a cruise. 

469
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,880
And we were super excited about 
it. 

470
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,320
And I was going to get a formal 
and all that, but it ended up 

471
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,360
getting canceled due to COVID. 
So this was during the pandemic.

472
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
So we never really ended up, we 
never ended up going on a 

473
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,760
cruise. 
But I don't own a formal, but 

474
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,640
I'm pretty much, I mean, I think
a lot of people don't own a 

475
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,640
formal like once they get out of
high school, but that's the only

476
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,640
thing I can think of that I 
don't have. 

477
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,760
But I could definitely go to it,
you know, a dressy wedding or a 

478
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,080
black tie affair of some sort, 
you know, in one of my black 

479
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,480
dresses. 
So anyway, can't go wrong with a

480
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,560
little black dress. 
So I'm not saying to get rid of 

481
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
all of your dressy clothes. 
If you don't dress up much, you 

482
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,400
need to be ready for things. 
And some of us like the 

483
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,880
opportunity to go shopping. 
Oh, weddings coming up, I'm 

484
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,240
going to go buy an outfit. 
You know, that's always fun, but

485
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,320
it's, it also feels good to be 
prepared for something like that

486
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,560
In case you don't have the time 
or money to go shopping for an 

487
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,280
outfit, you're ready to go. 
So definitely have something for

488
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,920
weddings, funerals, but maybe 
you worked an office job where 

489
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,360
you wore a lot of Blazers. 
You could always declutter your 

490
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:34,360
wardrobe down to like one 
favorite blazer that you could 

491
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,920
wear for a job interview or 
something. 

492
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,840
One of the things that I 
decluttered was a blazer that 

493
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,760
didn't really hang right on the 
shoulders. 

494
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,080
But yes, I still have the 
quintessential black blazer that

495
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,080
I'll wear at some point when I 
need to look professional. 

496
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,040
But it's not going to be often 
that I need to wear a blazer. 

497
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,680
So I only need 1 and I only own 
1. 

498
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
And I got rid of the ones that 
were too big. 

499
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:05,120
So yes, it's OK to let go of 
clothing that you wore for a 

500
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,040
prior life or a life that you 
aspire to have. 

501
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,200
Dress for the life you have 
right now. 

502
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Be prepared for, you know, the 
occasional night out. 

503
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,480
I'm big on being prepared for 
different occasions. 

504
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,680
Like if I go to a country 
concert I've got a pair of 

505
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,680
cowgirl boots, I've got AT 
shirt, you know, with a country 

506
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,000
singer's name on it. 
I've got jeans with little 

507
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840
rhinestones on the pockets. 
But I don't have a whole 

508
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,880
wardrobe of things like that 
because that's not what I wear 

509
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360
on a day-to-day basis. 
I mean, no judgement here. 

510
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360
If you're really into dressing 
country like every day, then 

511
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,680
that's your everyday clothing. 
But you only need one or two 

512
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,040
things for specific occasions, I
guess is what I'm getting at. 

513
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280
And when you go to the concert, 
you want to have an excuse to 

514
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,760
get another T-shirt. 
So here's a little tip. 

515
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,120
Make sure your husband's not 
listening for this one. 

516
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,880
If your husband tends to 
complain about how much clothing

517
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,240
you buy, you got to get rid of 
some stuff so that he doesn't 

518
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,360
think you have too much and then
gripe about you buying new 

519
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760
stuff. 
So sometimes getting rid of 

520
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040
stuff gives you an excuse to get
new stuff. 

521
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,400
Just just a little marriage tip 
there. 

522
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,720
Anyway, you might have clothing 
from a job or a different type 

523
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240
of church or whatever that you 
don't need any more. 

524
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,560
Let's see, what about releasing 
things that make you feel bad? 

525
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,400
They make you feel angry, sad, 
like there are certain things 

526
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,240
that will take you back to a 
real negative experience. 

527
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:46,800
OK, now I'm definitely in favor 
of keeping something that it 

528
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,160
helps you relive fond memories 
of your dear, dearly departed 

529
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
loved one. 
But what if it was the shirt you

530
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,120
wore when the person died and it
and it just brings back these 

531
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,800
terrible memories or whatever? 
That's different. 

532
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,920
You see what I'm saying? 
What? 

533
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Or what about just a mildly 
negative memory where you put 

534
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400
something on and somebody made a
weird comment about it? 

535
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,160
I don't know about you, but if 
my husband makes a negative 

536
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,360
comment about something I wear, 
I might never wear it again. 

537
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Now sometimes I'll just disagree
with him and wear it when he's 

538
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,640
not around or something, but a 
lot of times it ruins it for me 

539
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,440
and I get rid of it. 
Or one of the things I 

540
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,040
decluttered today, like I told 
you, like a lot of these 

541
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,320
emotions are fresh. 
One of the things I decluttered 

542
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,520
today was a pair of pants where 
when I put it on and I work at 

543
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,920
my kids school so they do care 
what I wear. 

544
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,240
I put it on and one of my one of
my teenagers was like, mom, why 

545
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,640
are you wearing those pants? 
And I went ahead and wore them 

546
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,840
because I didn't want the kid to
like when or you know what I 

547
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,240
mean? 
I didn't want them to think that

548
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,880
they're going to tell me what to
wear. 

549
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760
I didn't want to set that kind 
of precedent. 

550
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920
But yeah, I don't want to just 
keep embarrassing them. 

551
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,400
So they went the donation bag 
and I have at least three other 

552
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,520
pairs of black pants, 3 or 4, 
four or five. 

553
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080
OK. 
I didn't need them, by the way. 

554
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480
I have a lot of black clothes. 
I was saying earlier, I like the

555
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,640
idea of a capsule wardrobe, but 
I'm not that minimalist. 

556
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,280
But at the same time, I do like 
my wardrobe to center around 

557
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,480
certain colors. 
I wear a lot of black, white, 

558
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,000
burgundy. 
Those are kind of my primary 

559
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,200
colors that I wear. 
Not primary colors in the sense 

560
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120
that they're called primary 
colors, but main colors that I 

561
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,600
wear, black, white, burgundy, 
but to a lesser extent. 

562
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:52,000
I like wearing purple, rose, 
pink, Navy blue, fuchsia, and I 

563
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,040
like to have a lot of purses, 
tote bags, crossbodies, and it's

564
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,200
always a bonus when a bag has 
both black and tan on it. 

565
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,120
In fact, I recently got a small 
purse that's black, tan and 

566
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Gray. 
And it's, it's the type of purse

567
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,920
you'd wear to address the event 
where it's, you know, it's super

568
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,480
small. 
Like there's enough room in it 

569
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,160
for a small wallet and some 
essential items of makeup and 

570
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,040
maybe a tiny comb or something 
in case your hair gets 

571
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,600
windblown. 
But it's super small. 

572
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,680
And it could go with any of my 
shoes. 

573
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,080
So except the burgundy shoes, I 
probably wouldn't wear it with 

574
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,480
my burgundy shoes, but it would 
go with all of my tan shoes, all

575
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920
of my black shoes and a pair of 
Gray shoes that I have. 

576
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,280
So I like that. 
And one other thought on purses 

577
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000
and handbags, I'm not going to 
tell you to downsize those 

578
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,600
unless you want to. 
But something that I learned a 

579
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,560
long time ago when my kids were 
little and you know, I'd have a 

580
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,720
baby and start carrying a diaper
bag, I would sometimes 

581
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,520
accidentally leave my purse in a
restaurant. 

582
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,400
And I never did that before I 
started carrying a diaper bag. 

583
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,040
And it's because I'm only used 
to carrying one purse. 

584
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,239
So something that I did in those
days was I would downsize to a 

585
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,320
really small purse, and then I 
would keep it inside the diaper 

586
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,760
bag when we'd go out to 
restaurants and whatnot. 

587
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,560
And it was also convenient if I 
dropped a baby off in the church

588
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,159
nursery, I could pull my purse 
out in case I wanted to put on 

589
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,719
some chapstick during the 
service or whatever, but leave 

590
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,040
the diaper bag there. 
And then also, there were phases

591
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,440
where I just kept my wallet in 
the diaper bag, but I kind of 

592
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,560
liked the small purse within a 
bigger bag method. 

593
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,400
And I still do it and I'll 
explain in a minute. 

594
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,360
But you go somewhere, you're out
running, running around with 

595
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,600
your baby and you're like, OK, 
I'm going to go in the store. 

596
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,760
I don't want to carry the whole 
diaper bag. 

597
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,400
So then you pull out the little 
purse, you leave the diaper bag 

598
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,120
in the car and you pull out that
little purse when you go into 

599
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,920
the grocery store. 
But when you're at church or 

600
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,240
restaurants or friend's house, 
you got the little purse inside 

601
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,640
of the diaper bag. 
So you only have to grab one bag

602
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,600
and not forget it. 
Well, now my version of that is 

603
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,040
sometimes I carry a small purse 
and put it inside of a larger 

604
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,920
tote bag. 
And for a while it was stressing

605
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,480
me out to change purses because 
I tend to put like my bank card,

606
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,440
my credit cards and random 
compartments in my purse instead

607
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640
of in the wallet. 
You know how it is when you're 

608
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,280
in a hurry at the register or 
whatever. 

609
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160
So sometimes I would switch 
purses and I'd accidentally 

610
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,160
leave an important card in the 
purse that was at home and then 

611
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,200
I wouldn't have it. 
And that kind of freaked me out.

612
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,440
So I went through a phase where 
when I was getting ready for 

613
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,040
church, if my shoes did not 
match the current purse I was 

614
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,680
using, I would place the purse 
into a larger tote bag. 

615
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,320
For example, I have a Gray and 
black tote bag. 

616
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,040
So when I was dressed in Gray 
and black, I would stick a brown

617
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,000
purse inside that tote bag and 
then with my Bible and stuff and

618
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,440
everything matched. 
But I didn't have to like do the

619
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,240
dreaded purse switch. 
Lately, I've been more 

620
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,480
comfortable with switching 
purses and I've I've created a 

621
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,720
new habit of putting my debit 
card into my wallet. 

622
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,640
So that's a thing now. 
And when I go teach in the 

623
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,400
school, I grabbed my makeup bag 
and my small wallet. 

624
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,080
I have a small wallet and a big 
wallet but I grabbed my big 

625
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,120
makeup bag and my small wallet, 
put them into my tote bag. 

626
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,360
Then if I want to stop by 
because sometimes on the way 

627
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,920
home my husband's like can you 
stop and pick up blah blah blah.

628
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,560
I will sometimes just grab the 
wallet and walk into the store 

629
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,040
with it rather than take the 
whole tote bag in. 

630
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,120
But anyway that's a rabbit trail
but might help somebody. 

631
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,840
I've talked about it in the old 
episodes but I don't expect you 

632
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200
to have heard all of the 
episodes. 

633
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,560
But you definitely need a way to
organize your purses and tote 

634
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,080
bags, whether it's wide hooks or
you're putting them on a shelf. 

635
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,880
If you have really expensive 
bags they say don't like hang 

636
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,960
them on a hook, but I use hooks 
that have like a rubber coating 

637
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,520
on them and that's fine. 
But I also have a shelf in my 

638
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
closet I could use if I needed 
to. 

639
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,440
I definitely recommend having a 
shoe rack in your closet. 

640
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Just an organization tip there 
and don't store too much on the 

641
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,480
floor of your closet. 
Part of cleaning out your 

642
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,680
closet, other than sorting 
through your wardrobe is just 

643
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,600
getting the floor clear. 
From time to time I have to pick

644
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,120
up clothes that have fallen in 
my closet and I cleaned my 

645
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,120
closet floor today while I was 
going through my wardrobe. 

646
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,720
So that might be something you 
need to work on when you when 

647
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,120
you're decluttering, a lot of 
times you'll find something and 

648
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,440
it actually saves you money. 
I was just saying earlier that I

649
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,520
needed to buy a pair of insoles 
for a particular pair of shoes, 

650
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,800
and I was literally going to do 
it. 

651
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,320
And then I found a pair of 
insoles that were mine that I 

652
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160
forgot I even had in the bottom 
of my closet. 

653
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,400
So it was like, boom, I don't 
have to buy these anymore. 

654
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,000
And it's also always fun when 
you're cleaning out your closet.

655
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Check the pockets of all of your
coats and jackets and all of 

656
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,720
your handbags because sometimes 
you'll find a $20 bill and 

657
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:28,200
that's always nice. 
So just to recap on things that 

658
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,680
you should get rid of, hide or 
get rid of clothes that don't 

659
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200
fit your body today. 
You might just want to set them 

660
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,200
aside and take them out of 
circulation temporarily. 

661
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,320
Get rid of items that someone 
gave you that you never wear. 

662
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Get rid of most of the clothes 
that don't fit your lifestyle. 

663
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,320
You know what, if you used to 
play tennis all the time, you 

664
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,680
might want to save one tennis 
outfit or something, for 

665
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,840
example, or save one blazer. 
Even though you work in a casual

666
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,720
environment or you're a stay at 
home mom. 

667
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,080
If you have a formal and you 
wear it on a cruise and it still

668
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
fits you keep it for the next 
cruise. 

669
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,600
I've never even been on a 
cruise, but I just know it's a 

670
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520
thing. 
Amy told me about the formals 

671
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,720
and stuff. 
Let's see. 

672
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,720
Release anything that makes you 
feel sad or bad. 

673
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,000
We talked about that. 
If you only think these certain 

674
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,960
negative thoughts when you see a
certain object, why would you 

675
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,280
keep that object? 
Just get rid of it. 

676
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,200
And here's another tip. 
You don't have to tell your 

677
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,040
spouse everything you're getting
rid of when it's yours. 

678
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,600
You know, obviously my husband 
doesn't want me to get rid of 

679
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,120
anything of his, just like I 
don't want him to get rid of 

680
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,680
anything of mine. 
But I also don't need to explain

681
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,440
what I'm getting rid of and why.
You know, put it in a black 

682
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,320
trash bag, tie a knot in it, and
don't tell anybody what's in 

683
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,560
there. 
It's your business. 

684
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,960
It's your stuff, your business. 
Let's see. 

685
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,800
Oh, here's another tip. 
If you think that someone's 

686
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,640
going to ask if you still have 
something, they're probably not.

687
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,400
Because if you ever been in a 
situation where somebody's at 

688
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,280
your house and they're, they see
something that they gave you 

689
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,320
like decades ago and they're 
like, oh, you still have that. 

690
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,880
They're surprised you still have
it. 

691
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,680
That means it's OK if you would 
have gotten rid of it because 

692
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,240
they wouldn't have even thought 
of the item. 

693
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,600
They weren't even expecting you 
to just carry it with you 

694
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,440
through life. 
And every time you've moved and 

695
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,680
every time your weight's 
fluctuated, etcetera, etcetera, 

696
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,520
they're not expecting you to 
keep things forever. 

697
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,880
Maybe if it's a family heirloom,
like a piece of jewelry, but in 

698
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,960
most cases, they're not 
expecting you to keep these 

699
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,520
things forever. 
No, I'm not going to give you a 

700
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:40,160
lecture on minimalism, but what 
I am going to say is if your 

701
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:46,080
drawers are overstuffed and you 
don't have the space or the 

702
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,960
money to get another dresser, 
try to hang up as much as you 

703
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,560
can. 
But if you still don't have room

704
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,160
to put away all your clothes, 
get rid of some stuff. 

705
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Whenever my dresser gets too 
full it, it's not usually 

706
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,760
because I need to get rid of 
stuff because I'm not a clothes 

707
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,640
horse and I am kind of 
minimalist and I do get tired of

708
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,480
things and I do decide I've been
photographed in something too 

709
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,960
many times or, you know, it 
looks too worn out or whatever. 

710
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Eventually I do give up on 
things and get rid of them. 

711
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,760
And I'm rough on stuff. 
You know, I stay in stuff, I 

712
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,800
wear stuff out. 
But a lot of times it's that 

713
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,080
I've been getting a little lazy 
and putting things in the drawer

714
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440
that I could be hanging up 
because a lot of us have more 

715
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,440
room in our closet than we do in
our dressers. 

716
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,680
So that's another tip. 
Maybe your dresser could be just

717
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:50,280
for things like undergarments, 
pajamas, little tank tops and 

718
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,080
shorts, Little small things that
you know, the smaller items that

719
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,800
are harder to put on a hanger. 
I guess your little cami tops, 

720
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,360
your slips, things like that, 
socks and a lot of your other 

721
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,880
stuff you can hang up. 
This is super extreme, but I've 

722
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,840
seen some videos about this 
where people will have a basket 

723
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
for each of their kids and when 
they do the laundry they just 

724
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,400
put, they just put each item 
into the basket. 

725
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,440
Like this lady had three kids. 
She pulls out a load of laundry 

726
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,440
and it's her kids laundry and 
she sorts it into baskets 

727
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,200
depending on what kid it belongs
to and then they just live out 

728
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,120
of that little basket. 
Some of you are really cringing.

729
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,960
I'm even cringing. 
But at the same time, I have 

730
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,240
been guilty of having like, a 
large, clean laundry pile where 

731
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,240
my kids have at times had to dig
through the pile to find 

732
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,520
something to wear. 
So it's really not much 

733
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,560
different. 
And it's actually better if they

734
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,600
had this little basket of their 
own stuff. 

735
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,200
So that might work for somebody.
You know, some of you are going 

736
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,000
to hate it, but some of you, it 
might resonate with. 

737
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,240
Some of you might be like, yeah,
I'm just going to do that. 

738
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,800
My version of it is I don't fold
socks or underwear. 

739
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,120
I just put them in the person's 
drawer. 

740
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,440
I mean, my kids do their own 
laundry, but when they were 

741
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,400
younger, I would just, oh, these
are so and so socks. 

742
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,720
I'd put them in the drawer. 
And then when that person gets 

743
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,680
dressed, they just pull out two 
of the same sock and put them 

744
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,360
on. 
And my mom always folded the 

745
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,520
socks together. 
At some point I just started 

746
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,080
putting them in the person's 
drawer loose and nothing 

747
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,520
terrible happened. 
Some of you are more organized, 

748
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,920
you know, you're former former 
military or something like this 

749
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,320
is not going to resonate with 
you. 

750
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,600
And you know, I was raised with 
the socks folded together. 

751
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,640
You had socks and underwear in 
your top drawer, Next one was 

752
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,720
shirts, next one was pants, 
etcetera, etcetera. 

753
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,440
But you know, we all go through 
different seasons of life and 

754
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,960
some of us struggle with 
laundry. 

755
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,760
When my kids were younger I 
mainly hung up their dressy 

756
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,240
stuff and then their casual 
clothes were folded and put in 

757
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,120
drawers. 
But at the same time there was 

758
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,240
also a clean laundry pile so 
sometimes they didn't find what 

759
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,600
they needed in their drawers. 
I'm not proud of this, but just 

760
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:35,840
laundry was a weak point. 
I was good about washing and 

761
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,680
drying the laundry, not so good 
about folding it and putting it 

762
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,680
away. 
So if you are into extreme 

763
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,480
minimalism, you could have like 
a little basket for each kid. 

764
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:52,520
And a lot of experts recommend 
having a setup in your laundry 

765
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:57,040
room where you do everything 
right there, meaning you've got 

766
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,560
a place to fold and then you 
have a place to put the clean 

767
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,120
stuff. 
You have hangers for their 

768
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,080
clothes and a little bar and 
you've got a little cubby for 

769
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,800
each person's folded items and 
whatnot. 

770
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,440
So you know that that's beyond 
the scope of this episode. 

771
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,440
It's not really about doing 
laundry. 

772
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,160
It's about organizing your 
drawers and closet. 

773
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,680
Another tip for organizing your 
drawers is to use an old 

774
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,360
shoebox. 
Well, not an old shoebox, but 

775
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,160
just a shoebox from last time 
you bought a pair of shoes or 

776
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,680
whatever to separate. 
Things like that could help you 

777
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:37,240
separate socks and underwear or 
bras or slips or whatever. 

778
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,320
You know, items you want to sort
in the drawers. 

779
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Large shoe boxes, especially the
ones that come with like boots 

780
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,800
and stuff, are great for 
organizing your drawers. 

781
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:55,920
So anyway, I hope you freed up 
some drawer space, either by 

782
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,000
getting rid of stuff or hanging 
some stuff up. 

783
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,560
I hope you've got a good 
donation bag going. 

784
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,920
You're going to feel good kind 
of giving back, especially those

785
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,080
of us who aren't just writing 
checks to charities. 

786
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,400
It can feel good to donate some 
stuff. 

787
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:18,640
That's a way to give back. 
I hope that you picked up your 

788
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,880
floor. 
I didn't. 

789
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,280
I didn't really talk a lot about
this. 

790
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,560
But during my session, after I 
tried on a bunch of clothes, 

791
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,560
decided what to keep, what to 
donate, I cleaned up the bottom 

792
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,280
of my closet. 
I found some broken hangers, 

793
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,160
some trash, some random gloves 
that needed to be put away and 

794
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,320
things like that. 
And I cleared the floor of my 

795
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,000
closet. 
And the great thing about that 

796
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,560
is one of my backup recording 
stations is in my closet. 

797
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,960
It's not even a huge closet, but
I have a little table in the 

798
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,280
very back with a microphone on 
it and I can just take a chair 

799
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,400
in there and record if there's 
just a lot going on at my house 

800
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,320
and I need a quieter 
environment. 

801
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,080
I mean, some of you a while back
said it was cute that there was 

802
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,800
a little pug snoring. 
No, it was actually my husband's

803
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,400
snoring and I tried to edit that
out. 

804
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,760
But in all seriousness, 
sometimes I record in the 

805
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,160
closet. 
Right now I'm recording in my 

806
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,600
son's room. 
I'm not always in my desk that 

807
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,600
you've seen me in and some 
videos or whatever. 

808
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Like I was thinking about doing 
full length video podcasts and 

809
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,600
I've even I even did one 
recently. 

810
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,200
But The thing is having you sit 
and stare at me while I podcast 

811
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,960
would just defeat the purpose. 
This is really an odd audio only

812
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,200
show I might make. 
I might I might make some videos

813
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,160
in the future just so I can put 
some short clips on social 

814
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,720
media, but I think I'm going to 
keep this show mainly audio. 

815
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,760
So if you're, if you're watching
on YouTube and wondering why 

816
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,480
you're seeing just a little 
sound wave instead of my face, 

817
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,880
it's because you're supposed to 
be cleaning while you're 

818
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,000
listening. 
And I'd rather concentrate on 

819
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,400
what I'm saying then worry about
whether or not I'm looking at 

820
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,240
the camera. 
So I, I just know you got a lot 

821
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:28,320
done during this episode. 
Special, special thanks to my 

822
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,640
financial supporters who support
the show either through an Apple

823
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,240
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Apple Podcast is that purple 

824
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:42,480
podcast app or on Patreon, which
you can access directly through 

825
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,800
Spotify or you can go straight 
to my Patreon link or even the 

826
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,720
Spreaker Supporter Club, which 
is yet another way you can 

827
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:53,080
support the show. 
I have all those links in the 

828
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,920
episode notes, so be sure to 
check that out. 

829
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,800
And you can also visit 
cleanwithmepodcast.com and 

830
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,480
you'll find all the links there 
as well. 

831
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,840
But I know not everyone is able 
to subscribe to bonus content. 

832
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,960
I just appreciate it when 
someone does, and I know that 

833
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,400
you'll benefit from those extra 
episodes, but even just 

834
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,120
listening to the show helps me. 
So be sure to click follow or 

835
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:25,480
the plus sign or subscribe on 
whichever app you're listening 

836
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,520
on. 
But most of all, just keep 

837
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,240
listening. 
Even just doing what you're 

838
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:33,160
doing right now helps me. 
I appreciate each and everyone 

839
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,520
of you. 
And as always, happy cleaning. 

840
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,320
I'll talk to you in the next 
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