Everybody knows that, you know, in a marriage you want to do
things to keep the spark in your marriage.
It's just such a cliche that we've all heard.
But what about keeping the spark in your housework?
I'm Ronnie and you're listening to Clean with Me, the podcast
where I walk you through cleaning your house step by
step. Thanks for joining me.
I have so much to talk about in today's episode, and this is a
little bit more of a topical episode than a step by step.
I just want to kind of cover some key points while you're
working in a backroom. In this episode, I'm going to be
encouraging you to clean a back bedroom of your house, to
organize and clean it. And by back bedroom, I mean
another room besides your own bedroom.
And don't tune me out if you only have one backroom that
you're responsible for and it's your bedroom.
Obviously, you can go ahead and clean your bedroom during this
episode, but a lot of you have another room in the back of your
house that you are responsible for.
OK, if you're like me, you tend to prioritize your living areas,
your kitchen, your guest bathroom, and then to a lesser
extent, maybe your bedroom and the master bathroom, possibly to
keep your spouse happy or so that you can wake up in a clean
environment or get ready for the day in a clean environment.
But what about that other room? Maybe you have a young child and
you're responsible for cleaning their room.
Or maybe you have a spare room that could be used for an
office, a gym, a craft room, or all of the above.
And maybe that room has become kind of a catch all.
Or it's not necessarily a catch all, but it just hasn't been
cleaned and organized in a while.
Anyway, it's time to gear up for your cleaning session.
Maybe you need to freshen up for the day a little bit, or maybe
you just want to take care of some priority tasks real quick
before you disappear into the back.
Maybe you want to pick up the front entry area of your home.
OK, for me that would be the living room and then probably
clearing off the kitchen island that can be seen from the front
door. OK, straightening my front room,
clearing off that front island gives a nice first impression.
Even if there are dishes in the sink or just a few things out of
place in the kitchen, my house is going to look generally tidy
if I do those two things, straightening the front entrance
and clearing off the kitchen island, which you're probably
like. What's the significance of the
kitchen island? If you're new to the show,
that's just the part of the countertop that's clearly
visible from my front door. It could be something else for
you, but maybe you want to just straighten up the first
impression area of your home, whatever that looks like in your
floor plan. OK.
Or you might be just freshening up and getting ready for the
day. I mean, there are a lot of
reasons to just stay presentable.
Most of the time I like to get fixed up fairly early and just
be ready for anything, whether you get asked to lunch, spur the
moment or somebody Facetimes you.
I mean, nowadays that's a thing. Yesterday I called my dad to
tell him happy birthday and he wanted to show me something.
So he's like, hey, you want to switch to FaceTime?
And I was like, sure. And you know, it didn't set me
into a panic because I was fixed up.
So there is some motivation if you've been just sitting around
in your pajamas with some smeared makeup from the night
before. Anyway, that's enough
introduction because I want you to make some progress in the
back, hopefully, if they're freshened up yourself or your
house, by straightening up the immediate front entrance.
When you head to that backroom, make sure that you have the
containers you're going to need. If this is just kind of a
routine tidying up and it's not a major decluttering and
organizing session, you might just need something to put trash
in. But you might also have a more
complicated situation going on. For example, I am getting ready
to totally redo the backroom in my house.
My middle daughter has moved back in with the father of her
kids. And so I've decided, and as you
know, I have a son in Marine boot camp.
So I've decided to utilize that extra room and I'm not sure what
I'm going to call it yet, but it's going to be used as an
office slash gym slash craft storage area.
And that sounds like a lot, but, you know, we're not rich and
we've only got so many rooms and we still have three kids living
here. Each of my two teenagers has
their own room. And then my adult son is staying
in the RV in our driveway. It is one of those situations
where he's come back temporarily so that he can save up some
money and he likes the privacy of having his his own space out
there. Of course he was offered the
extra room when it came available, but this is the first
time in a very long time in decades that I've actually had a
spare room. When my husband and I first got
married, we rented A2 bedroom apartment simply because we
wanted to have an extra room to store things in.
And when we had our first baby, we kept her in the room with us
and just use that second bedroom for storage because obviously
with an apartment, you don't have a garage or anything.
And he owns some things, camping gear, fishing gear, things like
that, that he wanted to store in that second bedroom.
So that was a spare room per SE, which allowed us to keep the
living room and our bedroom tidy because that was kind of the
overflow area where we could put things.
I mean, it gave us an extra closet and I think we had ATV in
there for when his older kids would come visit.
But as a lot of you know, I have 6 kids.
So since then I've filled every bedroom of every house.
I've lived in three bedroom houses and four bedroom houses,
but I've filled every bedroom because by the time we moved
into our first 3 bedroom house, we had two kids.
So hopefully you've got at least a trash bag and maybe some other
containers if you're going to be redistributing things to other
rooms of the house. Maybe you want to sort things
into piles that are within containers, but you do not
necessarily need containers to do this kind of sorting.
Sometimes I just make a pile of items on either the floor or
freshly made bed that are going to be redistributed to other
rooms. That way I don't get sidetracked
by leaving the room. But you might like putting those
items in a laundry basket. There could be a chance that you
get interrupted, you get called away from what you're working
on, and you have to pause the episode.
Maybe you have a baby or toddler who might wake up from a nap, or
just something's going to come up where you have to set your
housework aside. In situations like that, it's
nice to kind of keep the mess contained and maybe have a
laundry basket or a box of items that you're going to put
somewhere. But you also might be packing up
belongings of a specific person, maybe somebody who moved out
recently or maybe somebody who moved out not so recently.
I talked to parents all the time of older children who kind of
store their kids stuff indefinitely.
And then at some point they're like, you know what, I'm going
to clear out that room and make it a guest room.
And that's when they box some of the stuff up and then give that
adult child a chance to pick up the stuff.
But I know a lot of you are in a way earlier stage of life and
you don't have adult kids, so I'm not going to talk too much
about that. Hopefully if it's a room that is
a bedroom or a guest room, you've at least made the bed.
Or maybe you've stripped, stripped the bedding and started
a load of laundry. If not, do so now.
But some of you are probably already working in the room.
Always start by clearing the floor, getting things kind of
divided into categories or piles, getting a clear floor and
dividing the items you're going to be going through.
Of course, if you don't have anything to go through, and this
is more of a routine, clean where you're just putting things
in a hamper, a closet, the trash bag.
By all means, you can start working on surfaces, windows,
window sills, baseboards, dusting, furniture, all the
things. A lot of you have some
organizing to do. If you're not sure what to do
with something, maybe just place it on the bed.
Or if there's not a bed in the room, place it into the laundry
basket or the redistribution pile to be dealt with toward the
end of the episode. But while you're working, I
wanted to talk about internal motivation versus external
motivation. Everybody knows that, you know,
in a marriage, you want to do things to keep the spark in your
marriage. It's just such a cliche that
we've all heard. But what about keeping the spark
in your housework? OK, obviously it's arguably not
as important, but some of us need to stay excited about
things to stay motivated. You know, doing housework can be
so mundane and it's a job that's just never really done.
I mean, arguably some of us get our house company ready and
we're like, wow, this is the best our house has ever looked.
You know, you're having overnight guests and your house
is looking amazing and it's a really good feeling.
So that's an external motivation when you're preparing for
somebody coming. And then the internal motivation
is sometimes we just kind of make a commitment to ourselves,
like, hey, I'm going to get caught up on laundry.
My method of staying on top of laundry is keeping family
members laundry separate. Everybody puts their dirty
laundry into a hamper in their own room, and then when it's
time to do their laundry, they put that laundry directly into
the washing machine. That's the system.
But once in a while, something happens where people's laundry
kind of gets mixed up and then procrastination can happen.
Nobody really wants to deal with that pile because they don't
realize it's theirs. They see other people's stuff.
So recently, I had to kind of hit the reset button and just do
several loads of laundry, regardless of who they belong
to, sort through them, bag it up for someone who'd moved out, and
then tell another person, hey, you need to go through this
stuff because some of the stuff might be yours, you know, the
remaining items. And it can definitely be hard to
do laundry when you don't know who the stuff belongs to.
And I feel like I was the one who knew best.
So it fell to me to get all this laundry caught up to kind of get
it back to like, OK, we're caught up.
Now everybody needs to do their own laundry separately.
And the exception is I do mixed loads for my husband and me.
But it's practical because we share a bedroom and he's a man,
I'm a woman. It's easy to tell our stuff
apart when we're sorting through the laundry.
Our laundry loads are supposed to consist of the household
towels, a load of our own bedding or a mixed load of my
clothes and my husband clothes or possibly separate loads, mine
and then his. But I don't really like to do a
separate load of my own clothes because then he's like, oh, did
you wash any of my stuff? So I, I try to avoid that
question, but that's an example of internal motivation.
Another example of internal motivation is when I want to
just deep clean my own bedroom or maybe the master shower.
When you have a separate shower and bathtub, you're more likely
to scrub the bathtub than the shower.
So that's something that can get procrastinated on.
But sometimes it's like, hey, I really need to get this shower
clean. So sometimes you pull out this
internal motivation to tackle a specific project.
And, you know, while we're talking about you possibly
working in a spare bedroom, an internal motivation is that I'm
excited to move the gym equipment which somehow ended up
in our living room. See, we had one of these weight
machines out in the garage, but obviously the weather's never
really perfectly ideal. I mean, it is, but not often.
You know, in the summer it's too hot to want to work out there.
In the winter, it's too cold. So my husband ended up bringing
it in and much to my chagrin, he put it in the living room and
it's heavy and complicated to move.
It has to be partially disassembled to move it.
But now it's on his honey do list that that's going to be
going into the backroom. And I haven't decided what to
call that room yet. Have you ever noticed that you
have a, a room, a name for every room of your house?
Like you might move into a house that has two living areas in
your this is the living room, this is the family room, or this
is the front room and this is the den or, you know, whatever
you call things. It's kind of based on, I guess,
the culture you grew up in. I grew up with a laundry room.
A lot of times my husband calls that a washroom.
It kind of makes me crazy because I feel like a washroom
is what like my grandparents were calling a bathroom back in
the day. But he's thinking of it as the
room where you do the wash. So all that haven't been said.
I haven't decided the name for the spare room yet.
I might call it the office because I mean, my daughter, my
daughter's room is equally in the back, my teenage daughter's
room. But nobody's just going to call
it the back bedroom. We're going to call it her
name's room. Nobody externally cares if I
move stuff into that room. So it's kind of an internal
thing that I'm excited about spreading out some of my
belongings, thinning down what's in my bedroom, thinning down
what's in the living room by putting some items in that room
and also making it to where that's where I record.
I'm currently in my little corner office of my bedroom
where I'm at a desk with a microphone computer.
But the drawback with having that in here is I like to start
working early in the morning. And if I'm up earlier than my
husband, I don't want to record with him snoring in the
background. So there are a lot of different
reasons to reorganize your house.
Sometimes it's spreading out your belongings so that another
room can look more spacious, a more important room can look
more spacious, Or sometimes it's a practical reason, like you
need a place to work. For me, it's both.
Another thing I might do with that spare room.
Hopefully you're plugging away at organizing a back room,
tidying or tidying up a backroom, whether that's a kids
room, craft room, storage room, spare room, guest room, whatever
you call it, office, or even your own bedroom.
And sometimes you don't feel comfortable get getting rid of
things right away. And there's some kind of an
interim step like moving it out to the garage, knowing that when
your husband cleans out the garage, he might discard the
item, but maybe skip that step and just throw something away.
I mean, some people just have a block against throwing things
away, but you have to understand you're constantly bringing items
into your house, and the longer you live in a house, the more
you're going to accumulate. And I'm not saying you have to
throw things away. You could have a donation box or
a donation bag, but you're still getting rid of items.
I mean, when we clean out our backyard, sometimes we're
burning things in the fire pit. Other items we take to the city
dump, you know, which is a, you know, a fun activity for most
husbands, like, hey, let's go on a trip to the dump and they kind
of like it because you're working, you're working
together. Definitely getting rid of stuff
is important to your housekeeping.
And I talked about internal motivation.
I guess moving my podcast setup to that other room is more of an
internal motivation than moving the gym from the living room to
the backroom because obviously I'm trying to make my living
room look better for company. I don't like looking at the gym
in the living room, but more importantly, I don't want my
guests to see that I have a gym in my living room.
You know, it's kind of a guy thing.
And this is not a bachelor pad, folks.
Don't get me wrong, I'm going to use the gym, but I mean, it's a
guy thing thinking it would be OK to have it in the living
room. So an internal motivation could
be to make your life more convenient or your immediate
surrounding look better. Oftentimes A cluttered house
leads to a cluttered mind. So those are some internal
motivations for keeping those back rooms of your house clutter
free tidied. Now let's talk a little bit
about external motivation. Whose visit are you looking
forward to? And we all know that concept of
you invite somebody over for dinner or whatever, a play date,
you know, maybe you both have a little kid or something, then
that's going to cause you to clean.
It's not enough. It is something and it can cause
you maybe to get out of a rut and pick up your living room and
vacuum it, do your dishes and clean your guest bathroom.
It can cause you to do those things, but it's not necessarily
going to motivate you to detail every inch of your house.
I talked about this a while back, but a new neighbor gave me
a tour of her house and I was like, oh, I'll have to show you
my house sometime. And I kind of used that as a
motivation because I had to get the entire house clean as what,
at once? So that's one way to harness
that external motivation is to think about someone touring your
entire house. If your house is new and maybe
you're taking your time or new to you, you've moved into it
recently. It doesn't have to be brand new,
but if you moved into a new to you house, maybe you've got
boxes sitting around, you haven't hung up pictures yet.
The idea of giving a close friend or family member a tour
of your entire house can motivate you to kind of complete
that process. OK, another motivation could be
just someone moving in with you and they're going to see the
back rooms at some point. I didn't really get to harness
this recently when my son, who had been living in another state
for around 9 years, was coming. I didn't really have a chance to
fully detail every inch of my house in preparation for his
visit. I would have if I could have,
but there just wasn't any time. However, I do have that son in
Marine boot camp and. I'm just envisioning his
standards getting a lot higher. I mean, we all know about how
people in the military have to make their beds a certain way.
And, you know, they're, they're learning how to do hospital
corners. And I'm not saying I'm going to
take it that far, but they're taught to be extremely neat and
tidy. And I don't want him to come
home and kind of see our house with new eyes and suddenly see
us as disorganized. You know, the mom who is telling
him to keep his room clean all the sudden falls short of the
standards he's been taught. It might be an irrational fear,
but I'm, I'm kind of using these thoughts to give me this
deadline, OK? Like, oh, we've got 6 1/2 more
weeks before he comes home on leave and I'd like the house to
look better than it did before he left.
Another example of external motivation is we already know
who we're having as guests for Thanksgiving.
We're going to have out of town guests.
So that's another external motivation.
It's a little more long term, but it's like, wow, we should
probably get our shower fixed before that.
Our guest shower works, but not exactly how it's supposed to,
let's put it that way. I mean, it's it's the guest
bathroom slash kid bathroom, but nobody wants to really have to
train their guests on how to use the shower.
Hopefully by me sharing these kind of personal thoughts about
what motivates me to go deeper with my cleaning and organizing,
I've helped you kind of think about what you have coming up.
You know, what kind of deadline do you have coming up?
Is someone going to be visiting with you for several days?
Is somebody moving back into the house and you want to make a
better impression than you have in the past?
Or is somebody visiting, and there's something about when
your adult children move out and then they come home to visit
like they're now visitors, that you're straightening up the
house for, even though you weren't worried about what they
thought of your bedroom when they were kids and they saw your
messy bedroom on a regular? There are people who know you
well, who've seen your house messy, but you want them to see
improvement the next time they come.
But sometimes you don't have something like that coming up
and that's where you have to rely on internal motivation.
But if internal motivation fails you, which is possible, often
it's it's very hard to be self motivated.
I mean, if we could be self motivated in every area of life,
you know, we'd all be a huge success in every category.
We all fight a battle against ourselves and don't always do
the things that we wish we could do.
But sometimes the thought of surprising your spouse with a
clean house, you know, your spouse is someone who's going to
see every room of the house at some point.
That can be a motivator that is kind of external.
But without having this major event coming, like guests
visiting from out of town or a child moving back in after years
of living out of state or giving someone a tour because it's
their first time at your house. And that's not always mandatory.
But I feel like if I have someone over and they've given
me a tour of their house, then I'm going to reciprocate because
they're curious about my bedroom and master bath and, you know,
the other rooms of my house. And I welcome that because it
causes me to kind of take my cleaning and organizing to the
next level and actually see these back rooms through someone
else's eyes. And obviously I talk about
mental gymnastics. Pretend your house is on the
market and you're a realtor coming through, looking at it
objectively. And the homeowner has asked you
to give them advice and you're like, well, this looks this
corner looks cluttered. You know, maybe put this stuff
away. That's still harder than
actually planning for guests. OK, That when it's the real
deal, your mind knows it. But doing these make believe
scenarios where you pretend you're a real estate agent or
you pretend you're a judgmental guest can help you muster up
internal motivation because you're thinking about an
external point of view. So yeah, I have a lot of things
to be excited about with my housework.
Now I am in a super busy season of life.
I'm trying to finally, you know, get my bachelor's degree, and
I'm going to have an intense 10 months, but future me wants me
to accomplish that. So these projects I'm doing are
not going to get done overnight, but they're things that I'm
chipping away at to improve the overall look of my home.
I mean, I would like my bedroom to look more like a hotel room,
but there are things that I store in my bedroom out of
necessity. That's going to be changing when
I move some of the furniture out and into that backroom.
And obviously as a cleaning podcaster, I need to keep that
spark alive where I'm excited about what's next for my home.
I think everybody needs that. They need to have these
motivators. I know who people who frequently
re redecorate their home and that's one of the motivators.
Of course, not everybody can afford that hobby.
A lot of us are like, OK, we've already got pictures on the
walls. You know, some things need to be
replaced here and there, but we're not going to completely
redecorate. But sometimes decorating just
seasonally with some items from a dollar store can get you
excited about cleaning a room or buying a fresh set of bedding.
You know, a new comforter, new pillowcases and shams can get
you excited about detailing your bedroom or your guest bedroom.
So self-imposed deadline #1 is making sure that my house is
clean and organized to a higher standard by the time my son gets
back in 6 1/2 weeks because he's graduated from live in child to
visiting child. And then major deadline number 2
is getting the house ready for Thanksgiving.
But I'm kind of thinking maybe I'll just be 15 minutes away
from, you know, clean house or an hour or two away from a clean
house. However you want to think about
that once I've done these improvements of moving stuff
into the spare room and stepping up my game before my middle son
gets home. What do you have coming up?
And maybe the holidays are a little far away.
Maybe you are having your in laws or your own family coming
to stay for the holidays. Or even if they're staying at a
hotel, they might be visiting you a lot, just spending a lot
of time in your house. You might be giving them a tour
because they've never seen your house.
But what do you have before that?
What's what's a short term event that you're planning for?
I mean, sometimes it can be just a daily saying.
It could be as simple as accomplishing, accomplishing
something before your husband gets home from work, something
different than what you do on a daily basis.
You know, you do your routine things.
You know, maybe you always like to have the dishes done before
he gets home from work. But being able to show him that
you organized a spare bedroom or you cleaned out a closet.
And that might not be your style to, you know, do that for him or
show him that I'm just throwing out some ideas.
But sometimes getting rid of stuff can can be exciting in and
of itself. There are times where I've done
a major purge and just measured my success in black trash bags
and white donation bags. I will often buy two colors of
bags so that I can differentiate.
You know, you don't want to have that like phobia that what if
somebody throws this away thinking it's trash or whatever.
And sometimes you can even put, you know, things in clear bags
that you're keeping. But boxes can also help you
differentiate or Rubbermaid tubs are great, or Sterilite is
another brand. The brand isn't important, but
I'm just kind of talking about these rectangular tubs with lids
that you can buy just about anywhere.
Those are great for storing things that you're going to keep
and you can label them. Like if you have a toddler who's
grown out of their clothes, you might want to put some items in
one of those tubs, put the lid on it and label it Girls 2T to
3T or whatever, for example. Another thing I'm big on is
after you've done a major purge and decided that you're going to
keep certain things, that's when it's time to buy storage
containers. You don't want to buy a bunch of
containers before you've purged a room, OK?
Because you know, they say, as I say, you can't organize clutter.
You want to get rid of stuff that you don't need and organize
the stuff that's important to you.
So from time to time I'll decide, hey, I want to keep all
this stuff, the certain category of items, and I'll buy those
little plastic dressers that you can get at Walmart or another
similar store like that. I like to store those in my walk
in closet. Those are great for storing
things like yarn or stationary or insert whatever there.
If you're organizing a kids room, they're great for
organizing Legos or other small toys.
And some people like to go a step further and actually label
those plastic dressers, which I've done with the one in my
closet because sometimes if you don't mess with that dresser for
a while, you kind of forget, like, what was this drawer for?
There's nothing in it. What was I planning to put in
this drawer? OK, so I'm planning to have my
office slash podcast setup in one corner of that spare room
that's currently spare but won't be spare once I set it up.
It's I'm staking my claim on that room, but I'm also going to
move this small coffee table. You know, if you've really been
listening to this podcast for a while, you might even remember
that I have a small coffee table along one wall in my bedroom.
And it's got a couple drawers and it's got a shelf under it
that's going to go into the spare room too, because I'm
going to use that to store and organize my yarn.
And then I'm planning to hang my illuminating looms above it,
like to put little hooks and everything, stuff that I've been
doing in my bedroom. When I'm thinking about how I
want a bedroom to look that I sleep in, I kind of envision a
nice hotel room. There's a large work of art
that's kind of a focal point, maybe a couple smaller pictures
on the side walls. There are night stands.
There might be a desk or a TV stand.
Mine's going to be minus the desk.
OK. At this point in the episode, I
want you to gather up any items that need to be moved out of
your room, OK, that you're working on and either get rid of
them, put them in a closet somewhere, figure out what
you're going to do with them. Maybe they need to be in a
laundry basket temporarily while you buy some kind of a plastic
tub or dresser. This is what I call recovery
time, where you've been working in a room and then you, you
don't want to leave a mess. You don't want to leave piles.
Let's quickly make some decisions and deal with those
piles. Maybe you need to put a donation
bag in the trunk of your car. Maybe you need to move something
to a different room. You know that whole spreading
out concept where you move something into an overflow room
to make the important room more spacious.
I want my bedroom to feel peaceful and spacious, and I'm
OK with the fact that there are going to be a lot of things
going on in that spare room. I think I'm leaning strongly
toward calling it just my office.
Obviously my husband's going to be working out on in there, but
I have a gym in my office and my husband comes in here to work
out. OK.
Sometimes you got to just define the space.
What, what is the purpose of that room you're working in?
Think about that while you're putting things away and getting
it organized, and maybe you're calling it a guest room or
sewing room. Once you put those items away,
and maybe you need to pause the episode if you need more time,
you want to do some dusting and cleaning.
You know, maybe you need to dust the ceiling fan.
Maybe you need to wipe out at least one window sill.
Or if you have a sliding glass door in your master bedroom and
that's where you're working, you need to vacuum out the dust out
of the tracks of that sliding glass door.
OK, Or maybe you just need to wash a window.
Regardless of what you use that back bedroom for, it probably
has a window and dusting doesn't take that long.
I mean, if you've been working in a room this long, you've
probably, and it has night stands, you've probably cleared
off those night stands. Or if it's an office, you've
probably cleared off the surface of the desk.
Time to wipe it down because the finishing touch is vacuuming and
dusting the room. So let's get it dusted.
And then I'm going to be closing out this episode.
But you might want to put on some music while you sweep and
mop or vacuum and mop if it's a hard floor, or just vacuum if
it's a carpeted room. A bonus task could be cleaning a
stain off the carpet with, you know, using a spot cleaner and a
spray bottle and a damp rag. You know, always be observant
when you're vacuuming carpet for spots that need to be cleaned.
And if you have family members who are old enough to help you,
maybe you've created a pile and they need to come get their
stuff. OK, everybody come get your
stuff out of this pile. These are items that don't
belong in this room. Come get them and put them away.
Often as a mom, whether I'm folding a bunch of laundry, a
bunch of miscellaneous laundry that's gotten mixed together, or
I'm just cleaning out a closet, I will make piles for people and
then I'll call them at the end, hey, come get this stuff.
Or hey, son, I found these items that used to belong to your
older brother. I want you to take these and put
them in your closet because these would fit you.
Now. Something I did recently when I
went through my hall closet. I hope you got a lot done during
this episode. My next bonus episode is going
to be a Walk With Me episode, but I'm not going to record it
while walking. I'm going to record it in the
studio, so to speak, so that you won't have to listen to all the
wind and the background noise. It'll be more like one of these
cleaning episodes. But the good news is that one's
going to be available for all of my supporters.
Some of the Walk With Me episodes are not available for
people on the lowest level of Patreon support.
I want to make the next one available to all financial
supporters at every level just to kind of give you an A sample
of what that's about to see if you want to start supporting on
Apple or on the all excess level of Patreon.
But anyone who's supporting the show is doing me such a huge
favor and hopefully also benefiting from the content.
So stay tuned for that Walk with Me episode that's going to be
available to everyone who supports me at any level.
Again, some Walk With Me episodes are only available to
Spreaker and Apple supporters and people who are All Access
supporters on Patreon. There is a very affordable basic
level on Patreon that unlocks all cleaning episodes, but I'm
going to give everybody who's supporting at any level a sample
of the Walk With Me episodes. So that's coming next.
Thank you so much for listening. I appreciate each and everyone
of you. As always, Happy cleaning and
I'll talk to you in the next episode.