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Everybody knows that, you know, 
in a marriage you want to do 

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things to keep the spark in your
marriage. 

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It's just such a cliche that 
we've all heard. 

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But what about keeping the spark
in your housework? 

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I'm Ronnie and you're listening 
to Clean with Me, the podcast 

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where I walk you through 
cleaning your house step by 

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step. 
Thanks for joining me. 

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I have so much to talk about in 
today's episode, and this is a 

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little bit more of a topical 
episode than a step by step. 

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I just want to kind of cover 
some key points while you're 

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working in a backroom. 
In this episode, I'm going to be

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encouraging you to clean a back 
bedroom of your house, to 

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organize and clean it. 
And by back bedroom, I mean 

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another room besides your own 
bedroom. 

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And don't tune me out if you 
only have one backroom that 

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you're responsible for and it's 
your bedroom. 

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Obviously, you can go ahead and 
clean your bedroom during this 

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episode, but a lot of you have 
another room in the back of your

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house that you are responsible 
for. 

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OK, if you're like me, you tend 
to prioritize your living areas,

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your kitchen, your guest 
bathroom, and then to a lesser 

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extent, maybe your bedroom and 
the master bathroom, possibly to

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keep your spouse happy or so 
that you can wake up in a clean 

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environment or get ready for the
day in a clean environment. 

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But what about that other room? 
Maybe you have a young child and

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you're responsible for cleaning 
their room. 

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Or maybe you have a spare room 
that could be used for an 

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office, a gym, a craft room, or 
all of the above. 

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And maybe that room has become 
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Or it's not necessarily a catch 
all, but it just hasn't been 

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cleaned and organized in a 
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Anyway, it's time to gear up for
your cleaning session. 

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Maybe you need to freshen up for
the day a little bit, or maybe 

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you just want to take care of 
some priority tasks real quick 

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before you disappear into the 
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Maybe you want to pick up the 
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OK, for me that would be the 
living room and then probably 

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clearing off the kitchen island 
that can be seen from the front 

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door. 
OK, straightening my front room,

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clearing off that front island 
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Even if there are dishes in the 
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place in the kitchen, my house 
is going to look generally tidy 

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if I do those two things, 
straightening the front entrance

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and clearing off the kitchen 
island, which you're probably 

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like. 
What's the significance of the 

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kitchen island? 
If you're new to the show, 

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that's just the part of the 
countertop that's clearly 

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visible from my front door. 
It could be something else for 

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you, but maybe you want to just 
straighten up the first 

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impression area of your home, 
whatever that looks like in your

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floor plan. 
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Or you might be just freshening 
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day. 
I mean, there are a lot of 

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reasons to just stay 
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Most of the time I like to get 
fixed up fairly early and just 

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be ready for anything, whether 
you get asked to lunch, spur the

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moment or somebody Facetimes 
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I mean, nowadays that's a thing.
Yesterday I called my dad to 

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tell him happy birthday and he 
wanted to show me something. 

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So he's like, hey, you want to 
switch to FaceTime? 

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And I was like, sure. 
And you know, it didn't set me 

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into a panic because I was fixed
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So there is some motivation if 
you've been just sitting around 

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in your pajamas with some 
smeared makeup from the night 

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before. 
Anyway, that's enough 

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introduction because I want you 
to make some progress in the 

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back, hopefully, if they're 
freshened up yourself or your 

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house, by straightening up the 
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When you head to that backroom, 
make sure that you have the 

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containers you're going to need.
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routine tidying up and it's not 
a major decluttering and 

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organizing session, you might 
just need something to put trash

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in. 
But you might also have a more 

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complicated situation going on. 
For example, I am getting ready 

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to totally redo the backroom in 
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My middle daughter has moved 
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kids. 
And so I've decided, and as you 

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know, I have a son in Marine 
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So I've decided to utilize that 
extra room and I'm not sure what

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I'm going to call it yet, but 
it's going to be used as an 

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office slash gym slash craft 
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And that sounds like a lot, but,
you know, we're not rich and 

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we've only got so many rooms and
we still have three kids living 

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here. 
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their own room. 
And then my adult son is staying

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in the RV in our driveway. 
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where he's come back temporarily
so that he can save up some 

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money and he likes the privacy 
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there. 
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extra room when it came 
available, but this is the first

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time in a very long time in 
decades that I've actually had a

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spare room. 
When my husband and I first got 

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married, we rented A2 bedroom 
apartment simply because we 

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wanted to have an extra room to 
store things in. 

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And when we had our first baby, 
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and just use that second bedroom
for storage because obviously 

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with an apartment, you don't 
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And he owns some things, camping
gear, fishing gear, things like 

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that, that he wanted to store in
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So that was a spare room per SE,
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living room and our bedroom tidy
because that was kind of the 

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overflow area where we could put
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I mean, it gave us an extra 
closet and I think we had ATV in

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there for when his older kids 
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But as a lot of you know, I have
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So since then I've filled every 
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I've lived in three bedroom 
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but I've filled every bedroom 
because by the time we moved 

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into our first 3 bedroom house, 
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So hopefully you've got at least
a trash bag and maybe some other

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containers if you're going to be
redistributing things to other 

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rooms of the house. 
Maybe you want to sort things 

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into piles that are within 
containers, but you do not 

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necessarily need containers to 
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Sometimes I just make a pile of 
items on either the floor or 

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freshly made bed that are going 
to be redistributed to other 

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rooms. 
That way I don't get sidetracked

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by leaving the room. 
But you might like putting those

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items in a laundry basket. 
There could be a chance that you

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get interrupted, you get called 
away from what you're working 

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on, and you have to pause the 
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Maybe you have a baby or toddler
who might wake up from a nap, or

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just something's going to come 
up where you have to set your 

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housework aside. 
In situations like that, it's 

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nice to kind of keep the mess 
contained and maybe have a 

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laundry basket or a box of items
that you're going to put 

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somewhere. 
But you also might be packing up

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belongings of a specific person,
maybe somebody who moved out 

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recently or maybe somebody who 
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I talked to parents all the time
of older children who kind of 

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store their kids stuff 
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And then at some point they're 
like, you know what, I'm going 

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to clear out that room and make 
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And that's when they box some of
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adult child a chance to pick up 
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But I know a lot of you are in a
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you don't have adult kids, so 
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about that. 
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a bedroom or a guest room, 
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Or maybe you've stripped, 
stripped the bedding and started

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a load of laundry. 
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But some of you are probably 
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Always start by clearing the 
floor, getting things kind of 

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divided into categories or 
piles, getting a clear floor and

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dividing the items you're going 
to be going through. 

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Of course, if you don't have 
anything to go through, and this

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is more of a routine, clean 
where you're just putting things

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in a hamper, a closet, the trash
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By all means, you can start 
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window sills, baseboards, 
dusting, furniture, all the 

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things. 
A lot of you have some 

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organizing to do. 
If you're not sure what to do 

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with something, maybe just place
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basket or the redistribution 
pile to be dealt with toward the

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end of the episode. 
But while you're working, I 

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wanted to talk about internal 
motivation versus external 

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motivation. 
Everybody knows that, you know, 

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in a marriage, you want to do 
things to keep the spark in your

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marriage. 
It's just such a cliche that 

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we've all heard. 
But what about keeping the spark

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in your housework? 
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as important, but some of us 
need to stay excited about 

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things to stay motivated. 
You know, doing housework can be

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so mundane and it's a job that's
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I mean, arguably some of us get 
our house company ready and 

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we're like, wow, this is the 
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You know, you're having 
overnight guests and your house 

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is looking amazing and it's a 
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So that's an external motivation
when you're preparing for 

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somebody coming. 
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is sometimes we just kind of 
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like, hey, I'm going to get 
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My method of staying on top of 
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members laundry separate. 
Everybody puts their dirty 

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laundry into a hamper in their 
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time to do their laundry, they 
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the washing machine. 
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But once in a while, something 
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kind of gets mixed up and then 
procrastination can happen. 

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Nobody really wants to deal with
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realize it's theirs. 
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So recently, I had to kind of 
hit the reset button and just do

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several loads of laundry, 
regardless of who they belong 

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to, sort through them, bag it up
for someone who'd moved out, and

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then tell another person, hey, 
you need to go through this 

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stuff because some of the stuff 
might be yours, you know, the 

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remaining items. 
And it can definitely be hard to

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do laundry when you don't know 
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And I feel like I was the one 
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So it fell to me to get all this
laundry caught up to kind of get

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it back to like, OK, we're 
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Now everybody needs to do their 
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And the exception is I do mixed 
loads for my husband and me. 

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But it's practical because we 
share a bedroom and he's a man, 

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I'm a woman. 
It's easy to tell our stuff 

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apart when we're sorting through
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Our laundry loads are supposed 
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towels, a load of our own 
bedding or a mixed load of my 

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clothes and my husband clothes 
or possibly separate loads, mine

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and then his. 
But I don't really like to do a 

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separate load of my own clothes 
because then he's like, oh, did 

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you wash any of my stuff? 
So I, I try to avoid that 

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question, but that's an example 
of internal motivation. 

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Another example of internal 
motivation is when I want to 

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just deep clean my own bedroom 
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When you have a separate shower 
and bathtub, you're more likely 

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to scrub the bathtub than the 
shower. 

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So that's something that can get
procrastinated on. 

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But sometimes it's like, hey, I 
really need to get this shower 

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clean. 
So sometimes you pull out this 

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internal motivation to tackle a 
specific project. 

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And, you know, while we're 
talking about you possibly 

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working in a spare bedroom, an 
internal motivation is that I'm 

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excited to move the gym 
equipment which somehow ended up

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in our living room. 
See, we had one of these weight 

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machines out in the garage, but 
obviously the weather's never 

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really perfectly ideal. 
I mean, it is, but not often. 

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You know, in the summer it's too
hot to want to work out there. 

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In the winter, it's too cold. 
So my husband ended up bringing 

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it in and much to my chagrin, he
put it in the living room and 

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it's heavy and complicated to 
move. 

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It has to be partially 
disassembled to move it. 

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But now it's on his honey do 
list that that's going to be 

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going into the backroom. 
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call that room yet. 
Have you ever noticed that you 

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have a, a room, a name for every
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Like you might move into a house
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your this is the living room, 
this is the family room, or this

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is the front room and this is 
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you call things. 
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the culture you grew up in. 
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is what like my grandparents 
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the day. 
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room where you do the wash. 
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I haven't decided the name for 
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I might call it the office 
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daughter's room is equally in 
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room. 
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it the back bedroom. 
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name's room. 
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move stuff into that room. 
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thing that I'm excited about 
spreading out some of my 

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belongings, thinning down what's
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what's in the living room by 
putting some items in that room 

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and also making it to where 
that's where I record. 

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I'm currently in my little 
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where I'm at a desk with a 
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But the drawback with having 
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working early in the morning. 
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husband, I don't want to record 
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background. 
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reasons to reorganize your 
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Sometimes it's spreading out 
your belongings so that another 

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room can look more spacious, a 
more important room can look 

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more spacious, Or sometimes it's
a practical reason, like you 

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need a place to work. 
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Another thing I might do with 
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Hopefully you're plugging away 
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tidying or tidying up a 
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room, craft room, storage room, 
spare room, guest room, whatever

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you call it, office, or even 
your own bedroom. 

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things right away. 
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interim step like moving it out 
to the garage, knowing that when

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your husband cleans out the 
garage, he might discard the 

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item, but maybe skip that step 
and just throw something away. 

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I mean, some people just have a 
block against throwing things 

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away, but you have to understand
you're constantly bringing items

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into your house, and the longer 
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you're going to accumulate. 
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throw things away. 
You could have a donation box or

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a donation bag, but you're still
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I mean, when we clean out our 
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burning things in the fire pit. 
Other items we take to the city 

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dump, you know, which is a, you 
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husbands, like, hey, let's go on
a trip to the dump and they kind

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of like it because you're 
working, you're working 

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together. 
Definitely getting rid of stuff 

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is important to your 
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And I talked about internal 
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I guess moving my podcast setup 
to that other room is more of an

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internal motivation than moving 
the gym from the living room to 

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the backroom because obviously 
I'm trying to make my living 

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room look better for company. 
I don't like looking at the gym 

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in the living room, but more 
importantly, I don't want my 

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guests to see that I have a gym 
in my living room. 

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You know, it's kind of a guy 
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And this is not a bachelor pad, 
folks. 

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Don't get me wrong, I'm going to
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guy thing thinking it would be 
OK to have it in the living 

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room. 
So an internal motivation could 

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be to make your life more 
convenient or your immediate 

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surrounding look better. 
Oftentimes A cluttered house 

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leads to a cluttered mind. 
So those are some internal 

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motivations for keeping those 
back rooms of your house clutter

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free tidied. 
Now let's talk a little bit 

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about external motivation. 
Whose visit are you looking 

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forward to? 
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you invite somebody over for 
dinner or whatever, a play date,

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you know, maybe you both have a 
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that's going to cause you to 
clean. 

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It's not enough. 
It is something and it can cause

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you maybe to get out of a rut 
and pick up your living room and

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vacuum it, do your dishes and 
clean your guest bathroom. 

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It can cause you to do those 
things, but it's not necessarily

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going to motivate you to detail 
every inch of your house. 

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I talked about this a while 
back, but a new neighbor gave me

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a tour of her house and I was 
like, oh, I'll have to show you 

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my house sometime. 
And I kind of used that as a 

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motivation because I had to get 
the entire house clean as what, 

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at once? 
So that's one way to harness 

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that external motivation is to 
think about someone touring your

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entire house. 
If your house is new and maybe 

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you're taking your time or new 
to you, you've moved into it 

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recently. 
It doesn't have to be brand new,

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but if you moved into a new to 
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boxes sitting around, you 
haven't hung up pictures yet. 

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The idea of giving a close 
friend or family member a tour 

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of your entire house can 
motivate you to kind of complete

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that process. 
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just someone moving in with you 
and they're going to see the 

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back rooms at some point. 
I didn't really get to harness 

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this recently when my son, who 
had been living in another state

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for around 9 years, was coming. 
I didn't really have a chance to

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fully detail every inch of my 
house in preparation for his 

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visit. 
I would have if I could have, 

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but there just wasn't any time. 
However, I do have that son in 

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Marine boot camp and. 
I'm just envisioning his 

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standards getting a lot higher. 
I mean, we all know about how 

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people in the military have to 
make their beds a certain way. 

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And, you know, they're, they're 
learning how to do hospital 

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corners. 
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take it that far, but they're 
taught to be extremely neat and 

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tidy. 
And I don't want him to come 

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home and kind of see our house 
with new eyes and suddenly see 

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us as disorganized. 
You know, the mom who is telling

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him to keep his room clean all 
the sudden falls short of the 

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standards he's been taught. 
It might be an irrational fear, 

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but I'm, I'm kind of using these
thoughts to give me this 

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deadline, OK? 
Like, oh, we've got 6 1/2 more 

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weeks before he comes home on 
leave and I'd like the house to 

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look better than it did before 
he left. 

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Another example of external 
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who we're having as guests for 
Thanksgiving. 

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We're going to have out of town 
guests. 

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So that's another external 
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It's a little more long term, 
but it's like, wow, we should 

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probably get our shower fixed 
before that. 

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Our guest shower works, but not 
exactly how it's supposed to, 

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let's put it that way. 
I mean, it's it's the guest 

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bathroom slash kid bathroom, but
nobody wants to really have to 

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train their guests on how to use
the shower. 

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Hopefully by me sharing these 
kind of personal thoughts about 

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what motivates me to go deeper 
with my cleaning and organizing,

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I've helped you kind of think 
about what you have coming up. 

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You know, what kind of deadline 
do you have coming up? 

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Is someone going to be visiting 
with you for several days? 

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Is somebody moving back into the
house and you want to make a 

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better impression than you have 
in the past? 

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Or is somebody visiting, and 
there's something about when 

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your adult children move out and
then they come home to visit 

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like they're now visitors, that 
you're straightening up the 

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house for, even though you 
weren't worried about what they 

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thought of your bedroom when 
they were kids and they saw your

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messy bedroom on a regular? 
There are people who know you 

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well, who've seen your house 
messy, but you want them to see 

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improvement the next time they 
come. 

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But sometimes you don't have 
something like that coming up 

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and that's where you have to 
rely on internal motivation. 

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But if internal motivation fails
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it's it's very hard to be self 
motivated. 

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I mean, if we could be self 
motivated in every area of life,

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you know, we'd all be a huge 
success in every category. 

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We all fight a battle against 
ourselves and don't always do 

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the things that we wish we could
do. 

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But sometimes the thought of 
surprising your spouse with a 

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clean house, you know, your 
spouse is someone who's going to

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see every room of the house at 
some point. 

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That can be a motivator that is 
kind of external. 

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But without having this major 
event coming, like guests 

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visiting from out of town or a 
child moving back in after years

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of living out of state or giving
someone a tour because it's 

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their first time at your house. 
And that's not always mandatory.

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But I feel like if I have 
someone over and they've given 

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me a tour of their house, then 
I'm going to reciprocate because

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they're curious about my bedroom
and master bath and, you know, 

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the other rooms of my house. 
And I welcome that because it 

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causes me to kind of take my 
cleaning and organizing to the 

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next level and actually see 
these back rooms through someone

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else's eyes. 
And obviously I talk about 

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mental gymnastics. 
Pretend your house is on the 

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market and you're a realtor 
coming through, looking at it 

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objectively. 
And the homeowner has asked you 

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to give them advice and you're 
like, well, this looks this 

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corner looks cluttered. 
You know, maybe put this stuff 

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away. 
That's still harder than 

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actually planning for guests. 
OK, That when it's the real 

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deal, your mind knows it. 
But doing these make believe 

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scenarios where you pretend 
you're a real estate agent or 

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you pretend you're a judgmental 
guest can help you muster up 

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internal motivation because 
you're thinking about an 

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external point of view. 
So yeah, I have a lot of things 

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to be excited about with my 
housework. 

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Now I am in a super busy season 
of life. 

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I'm trying to finally, you know,
get my bachelor's degree, and 

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I'm going to have an intense 10 
months, but future me wants me 

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to accomplish that. 
So these projects I'm doing are 

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not going to get done overnight,
but they're things that I'm 

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chipping away at to improve the 
overall look of my home. 

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I mean, I would like my bedroom 
to look more like a hotel room, 

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but there are things that I 
store in my bedroom out of 

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necessity. 
That's going to be changing when

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I move some of the furniture out
and into that backroom. 

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And obviously as a cleaning 
podcaster, I need to keep that 

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spark alive where I'm excited 
about what's next for my home. 

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I think everybody needs that. 
They need to have these 

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motivators. 
I know who people who frequently

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re redecorate their home and 
that's one of the motivators. 

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Of course, not everybody can 
afford that hobby. 

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A lot of us are like, OK, we've 
already got pictures on the 

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walls. 
You know, some things need to be

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replaced here and there, but 
we're not going to completely 

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redecorate. 
But sometimes decorating just 

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seasonally with some items from 
a dollar store can get you 

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excited about cleaning a room or
buying a fresh set of bedding. 

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You know, a new comforter, new 
pillowcases and shams can get 

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you excited about detailing your
bedroom or your guest bedroom. 

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So self-imposed deadline #1 is 
making sure that my house is 

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clean and organized to a higher 
standard by the time my son gets

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back in 6 1/2 weeks because he's
graduated from live in child to 

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visiting child. 
And then major deadline number 2

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is getting the house ready for 
Thanksgiving. 

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But I'm kind of thinking maybe 
I'll just be 15 minutes away 

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from, you know, clean house or 
an hour or two away from a clean

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house. 
However you want to think about 

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that once I've done these 
improvements of moving stuff 

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into the spare room and stepping
up my game before my middle son 

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gets home. 
What do you have coming up? 

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And maybe the holidays are a 
little far away. 

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Maybe you are having your in 
laws or your own family coming 

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to stay for the holidays. 
Or even if they're staying at a 

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hotel, they might be visiting 
you a lot, just spending a lot 

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of time in your house. 
You might be giving them a tour 

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because they've never seen your 
house. 

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But what do you have before 
that? 

449
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,880
What's what's a short term event
that you're planning for? 

450
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,600
I mean, sometimes it can be just
a daily saying. 

451
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,000
It could be as simple as 
accomplishing, accomplishing 

452
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,480
something before your husband 
gets home from work, something 

453
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,160
different than what you do on a 
daily basis. 

454
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,000
You know, you do your routine 
things. 

455
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,840
You know, maybe you always like 
to have the dishes done before 

456
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,400
he gets home from work. 
But being able to show him that 

457
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,520
you organized a spare bedroom or
you cleaned out a closet. 

458
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,440
And that might not be your style
to, you know, do that for him or

459
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,880
show him that I'm just throwing 
out some ideas. 

460
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,640
But sometimes getting rid of 
stuff can can be exciting in and

461
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,680
of itself. 
There are times where I've done 

462
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,960
a major purge and just measured 
my success in black trash bags 

463
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,080
and white donation bags. 
I will often buy two colors of 

464
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,360
bags so that I can 
differentiate. 

465
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,040
You know, you don't want to have
that like phobia that what if 

466
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960
somebody throws this away 
thinking it's trash or whatever.

467
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720
And sometimes you can even put, 
you know, things in clear bags 

468
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,280
that you're keeping. 
But boxes can also help you 

469
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,600
differentiate or Rubbermaid tubs
are great, or Sterilite is 

470
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880
another brand. 
The brand isn't important, but 

471
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,440
I'm just kind of talking about 
these rectangular tubs with lids

472
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,480
that you can buy just about 
anywhere. 

473
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,680
Those are great for storing 
things that you're going to keep

474
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080
and you can label them. 
Like if you have a toddler who's

475
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,280
grown out of their clothes, you 
might want to put some items in 

476
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,560
one of those tubs, put the lid 
on it and label it Girls 2T to 

477
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,200
3T or whatever, for example. 
Another thing I'm big on is 

478
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,480
after you've done a major purge 
and decided that you're going to

479
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,000
keep certain things, that's when
it's time to buy storage 

480
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,520
containers. 
You don't want to buy a bunch of

481
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,720
containers before you've purged 
a room, OK? 

482
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,760
Because you know, they say, as I
say, you can't organize clutter.

483
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,120
You want to get rid of stuff 
that you don't need and organize

484
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,000
the stuff that's important to 
you. 

485
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,600
So from time to time I'll 
decide, hey, I want to keep all 

486
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,920
this stuff, the certain category
of items, and I'll buy those 

487
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,760
little plastic dressers that you
can get at Walmart or another 

488
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,520
similar store like that. 
I like to store those in my walk

489
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,120
in closet. 
Those are great for storing 

490
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,400
things like yarn or stationary 
or insert whatever there. 

491
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,800
If you're organizing a kids 
room, they're great for 

492
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,720
organizing Legos or other small 
toys. 

493
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,840
And some people like to go a 
step further and actually label 

494
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,600
those plastic dressers, which 
I've done with the one in my 

495
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,360
closet because sometimes if you 
don't mess with that dresser for

496
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,880
a while, you kind of forget, 
like, what was this drawer for? 

497
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960
There's nothing in it. 
What was I planning to put in 

498
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,600
this drawer? 
OK, so I'm planning to have my 

499
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:31,080
office slash podcast setup in 
one corner of that spare room 

500
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,560
that's currently spare but won't
be spare once I set it up. 

501
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,360
It's I'm staking my claim on 
that room, but I'm also going to

502
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,520
move this small coffee table. 
You know, if you've really been 

503
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560
listening to this podcast for a 
while, you might even remember 

504
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,880
that I have a small coffee table
along one wall in my bedroom. 

505
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,920
And it's got a couple drawers 
and it's got a shelf under it 

506
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,320
that's going to go into the 
spare room too, because I'm 

507
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,000
going to use that to store and 
organize my yarn. 

508
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,120
And then I'm planning to hang my
illuminating looms above it, 

509
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,720
like to put little hooks and 
everything, stuff that I've been

510
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,400
doing in my bedroom. 
When I'm thinking about how I 

511
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,720
want a bedroom to look that I 
sleep in, I kind of envision a 

512
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,720
nice hotel room. 
There's a large work of art 

513
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,080
that's kind of a focal point, 
maybe a couple smaller pictures 

514
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,320
on the side walls. 
There are night stands. 

515
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,680
There might be a desk or a TV 
stand. 

516
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Mine's going to be minus the 
desk. 

517
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,120
OK. 
At this point in the episode, I 

518
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,920
want you to gather up any items 
that need to be moved out of 

519
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,120
your room, OK, that you're 
working on and either get rid of

520
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,720
them, put them in a closet 
somewhere, figure out what 

521
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,480
you're going to do with them. 
Maybe they need to be in a 

522
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,640
laundry basket temporarily while
you buy some kind of a plastic 

523
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,080
tub or dresser. 
This is what I call recovery 

524
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
time, where you've been working 
in a room and then you, you 

525
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400
don't want to leave a mess. 
You don't want to leave piles. 

526
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Let's quickly make some 
decisions and deal with those 

527
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,560
piles. 
Maybe you need to put a donation

528
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
bag in the trunk of your car. 
Maybe you need to move something

529
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,280
to a different room. 
You know that whole spreading 

530
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,400
out concept where you move 
something into an overflow room 

531
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,720
to make the important room more 
spacious. 

532
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,960
I want my bedroom to feel 
peaceful and spacious, and I'm 

533
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,440
OK with the fact that there are 
going to be a lot of things 

534
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,760
going on in that spare room. 
I think I'm leaning strongly 

535
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,760
toward calling it just my 
office. 

536
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,760
Obviously my husband's going to 
be working out on in there, but 

537
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,320
I have a gym in my office and my
husband comes in here to work 

538
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,320
out. 
OK. 

539
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Sometimes you got to just define
the space. 

540
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,960
What, what is the purpose of 
that room you're working in? 

541
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,280
Think about that while you're 
putting things away and getting 

542
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,600
it organized, and maybe you're 
calling it a guest room or 

543
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160
sewing room. 
Once you put those items away, 

544
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
and maybe you need to pause the 
episode if you need more time, 

545
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,800
you want to do some dusting and 
cleaning. 

546
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360
You know, maybe you need to dust
the ceiling fan. 

547
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,600
Maybe you need to wipe out at 
least one window sill. 

548
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Or if you have a sliding glass 
door in your master bedroom and 

549
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,920
that's where you're working, you
need to vacuum out the dust out 

550
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960
of the tracks of that sliding 
glass door. 

551
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320
OK, Or maybe you just need to 
wash a window. 

552
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,320
Regardless of what you use that 
back bedroom for, it probably 

553
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,440
has a window and dusting doesn't
take that long. 

554
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160
I mean, if you've been working 
in a room this long, you've 

555
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,640
probably, and it has night 
stands, you've probably cleared 

556
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,960
off those night stands. 
Or if it's an office, you've 

557
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
probably cleared off the surface
of the desk. 

558
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,480
Time to wipe it down because the
finishing touch is vacuuming and

559
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,040
dusting the room. 
So let's get it dusted. 

560
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,280
And then I'm going to be closing
out this episode. 

561
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,960
But you might want to put on 
some music while you sweep and 

562
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,560
mop or vacuum and mop if it's a 
hard floor, or just vacuum if 

563
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,960
it's a carpeted room. 
A bonus task could be cleaning a

564
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,440
stain off the carpet with, you 
know, using a spot cleaner and a

565
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,880
spray bottle and a damp rag. 
You know, always be observant 

566
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,480
when you're vacuuming carpet for
spots that need to be cleaned. 

567
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,280
And if you have family members 
who are old enough to help you, 

568
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,560
maybe you've created a pile and 
they need to come get their 

569
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,280
stuff. 
OK, everybody come get your 

570
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,199
stuff out of this pile. 
These are items that don't 

571
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,880
belong in this room. 
Come get them and put them away.

572
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,639
Often as a mom, whether I'm 
folding a bunch of laundry, a 

573
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:40,080
bunch of miscellaneous laundry 
that's gotten mixed together, or

574
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,560
I'm just cleaning out a closet, 
I will make piles for people and

575
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,080
then I'll call them at the end, 
hey, come get this stuff. 

576
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,360
Or hey, son, I found these items
that used to belong to your 

577
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,280
older brother. 
I want you to take these and put

578
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,320
them in your closet because 
these would fit you. 

579
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,280
Now. 
Something I did recently when I 

580
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,920
went through my hall closet. 
I hope you got a lot done during

581
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,800
this episode. 
My next bonus episode is going 

582
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,520
to be a Walk With Me episode, 
but I'm not going to record it 

583
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,480
while walking. 
I'm going to record it in the 

584
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,960
studio, so to speak, so that you
won't have to listen to all the 

585
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440
wind and the background noise. 
It'll be more like one of these 

586
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,880
cleaning episodes. 
But the good news is that one's 

587
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,360
going to be available for all of
my supporters. 

588
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,440
Some of the Walk With Me 
episodes are not available for 

589
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,600
people on the lowest level of 
Patreon support. 

590
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,760
I want to make the next one 
available to all financial 

591
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,200
supporters at every level just 
to kind of give you an A sample 

592
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,880
of what that's about to see if 
you want to start supporting on 

593
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,240
Apple or on the all excess level
of Patreon. 

594
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,920
But anyone who's supporting the 
show is doing me such a huge 

595
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,680
favor and hopefully also 
benefiting from the content. 

596
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,760
So stay tuned for that Walk with
Me episode that's going to be 

597
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,680
available to everyone who 
supports me at any level. 

598
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,440
Again, some Walk With Me 
episodes are only available to 

599
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Spreaker and Apple supporters 
and people who are All Access 

600
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,080
supporters on Patreon. 
There is a very affordable basic

601
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,400
level on Patreon that unlocks 
all cleaning episodes, but I'm 

602
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,440
going to give everybody who's 
supporting at any level a sample

603
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,760
of the Walk With Me episodes. 
So that's coming next. 

604
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Thank you so much for listening.
I appreciate each and everyone 

605
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,840
of you. 
As always, Happy cleaning and 

606
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,320
I'll talk to you in the next 
episode.

