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Does anyone else find it harder 
to clean when their spouse is 

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home? 
Hi, I'm Ronnie and you're 

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listening to Clean with me, the 
podcast where I talk you through

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cleaning your house step by 
step. 

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And in today's episode, we're 
going to tackle a messy kitchen.

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And of course, if your kitchen 
is not messy, you can do some 

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deep cleaning tasks while we're 
in there. 

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I But I suspect a lot of you 
have a sink full of dishes, 

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maybe a countertop full of 
dishes, a lot of things left out

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of place, a floor that needs to 
be swept and mopped, and so on. 

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Let's get right into the 
episode. 

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It's time to gear up for your 
cleaning session. 

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If your kitchen's a mess, you're
probably going to want to put on

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some shoes rather than walk on a
gritty or sticky floor, and you 

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might also want to straighten up
the front entrance area of your 

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home real quick. 
I like to straighten up my front

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room before I do pretty much any
household task, just so that I 

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can feel like my house is under 
control and whoever walks in 

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will get a good impression. 
Another thing I like to do at 

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the beginning of a cleaning 
session is simply start a load 

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of laundry. 
Basically, I like to get my 

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machines running fairly early in
the cleaning session. 

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And by machines I mean my 
washing machine, maybe my dryer,

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and my dishwasher. 
And I realize you may or may not

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have a dishwasher, but if you 
do, we're going to get that 

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machine running too. 
But right now, you might need to

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start a load of laundry. 
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You also might want to freshen 
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And I know I can talk faster 
than you can do things. 

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I'm just giving you a few ideas 
on how to kick off your cleaning

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session. 
And then I'm going to be more 

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specific once we get to work on 
the kitchen. 

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Another thing you might need to 
do is gather up any dirty dishes

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from around the house, whether 
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stands or a forgotten plate on a
dining room table or in table or

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coffee table. 
Let's get all that stuff 

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gathered to the sink area as 
soon as you're done starting 

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that load of laundry or 
straightening up that front row.

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If you have little ones, you 
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often. 
When you've got a messy kitchen,

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the best way to keep your kids 
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somewhere nearby that room that 
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I remember at one house I had a 
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actually in the kitchen because 
this particular house had a lot 

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of square footage kind of 
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I felt in the kitchen area like 
there was a huge kitchen with 

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room for a table and then some 
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kitchen that was still over a 
hard floor. 

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I felt like it was kind of 
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So my mom ended up having the 
idea of me making a little 

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corner for my preschooler and 
toddler to plan. 

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And what we did is we put a 
little area rug in one corner of

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the kitchen and a little toy box
bookshelf with like 2 shelves or

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something that allowed the kids 
to play away from the sink, away

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from the stove, but where I 
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while working in the kitchen. 
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So just something for you moms 
of little ones for a while At 

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our current house, we had a gate
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And we originally did this when 
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puppies, but then it came in 
handy when the grandkids would 

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try to get in there while we 
were cooking or loading and 

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unloading the dishwasher. 
Just times you don't want a 

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little toddler around. 
And that way we could see them 

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playing in the living room 
nearby while keeping them out of

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the kitchen. 
So just a few things to think 

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about while you're gearing up 
for today's kitchen cleaning 

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session. 
Now that you've gotten your 

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shoes on and maybe started a 
load of laundry straight in your

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front room, you know whichever 
of those things that you did, if

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you haven't already done so, 
gather up all of your dirty 

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dishes. 
I want you to stay in the 

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kitchen during this episode if 
at all possible. 

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So I want you to get everything 
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OK? 
All of the dishes and some fresh

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cleaning rags. 
OK, Like at least a fresh dish 

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rag and a clean, dry towel. 
You're going to need those 

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items, and I don't want you to 
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kitchen. 
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do is kind of assess the 
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You may have a dirty stovetop 
right now. 

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You may have clutter all over 
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or even a kitchen table. 
You may have a dirty high chair.

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You've probably got a lot going 
on if you clicked on an episode 

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about a messy kitchen. 
I get that and you probably feel

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overwhelmed, but the first thing
I want you to do is get any 

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difficult items pre rinsed and 
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You know, maybe you've piled 
things in the sink and you need 

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to empty it out so that you'll 
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Or if you have the the kind of 
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maybe you need to empty out the 
section with the garbage 

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disposal where you're going to 
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OK, maybe you have a little dish
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especially if you have one of 
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I've I've got the old school 2 
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one section is the old school 
and we went back to that as a 

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society. 
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But I've never had the sink 
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It's it, mine has the two 
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And so I always, you know, empty
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started because I'm going to use
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the hot water and dish soap. 
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going to use to pre rinse and 
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And you may or may not have a 
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That's OK. 
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to work whether you have a 
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I'm going to talk about hand 
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And if you're like me, when 
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you've got more than what's 
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or certain items you don't want 
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And so you might be doing a 
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But let's get that sink ready. 
Let's get it emptied out, you 

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know, just by placing things 
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and then, you know, rinsing it 
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OK, so maybe you're filling up 
the sink or maybe you just wash 

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your dishes completely under 
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I know some people do that, But 
I get my water running to heat 

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it up. 
I run the garbage disposal in 

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case there's anything in it. 
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And then I put some hot soapy 
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for me. 
It's on the right, you know, I 

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plug it, start filling it up, 
and then I look for any dirty 

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silverware and drop that in. 
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be soaked, I drop those in as 
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sink with hot water. 
You might not be doing things in

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exactly the same way I'm 
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Obviously just work on pre 
rinsing your dishes however you 

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like to do that, but I think 
it's important to deal with the 

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difficult items first. 
When you come across something 

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that needs a lot of scrubbing, I
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procrastinate on washing that 
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I just want you to pre rinse it 
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If it's a cup that's just soiled
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the bottom of it, you can just 
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water, some liquid dish soap and
set it on the counter or set it 

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in your basin or your sink. 
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silverware I submerge plates, I 
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first, of course, because you 
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lot of debris in the water. 
You're washing your dishes then.

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So I grab a dishwashing brush 
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under running water. 
I'll, I'll scrub a silverware if

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there's chunks on it. 
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silverware I'm just dropping it 
in but I'll I'll scrub the food 

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off the plate, submerge it OK. 
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lot of cups and pans and things 
like that I'll scrub and pre 

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rinse them under running water. 
But the way I'll soak them is by

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filling them up and then placing
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This is definitely a good 
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If not everything's going to fit
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to be doing multiple sink loads,
you know where you're changing 

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the water after washing several 
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But even though I'm going to be 
putting a lot of items in the 

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dishwasher, I will get the most 
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Soaking those obvious difficult 
items, the the pot and pan from 

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dinner where the food has kind 
of dried on or that container 

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that you pulled out of the 
refrigerator and threw away the 

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leftovers. 
By the way, if you haven't dealt

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with leftovers, I'm talking 
leftovers, you're not no longer 

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going to eat old leftovers. 
Go ahead and deal with those. 

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You've got plenty of dishes to 
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Might as well wash those 
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fridge because you're going to 
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OK, so let's get all these 
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soaking. 
You might still come across 

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items that are more difficult 
than others that you're going to

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procrastinate on in a good way, 
but we'll talk about that. 

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Let's get the obviously 
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soaking and let's get started on
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OK? 
I'm talking about things that 

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can go straight into the 
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rinse and scrub and then can be 
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Or if you're hand washing. 
I'm talking about those items 

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that are ready to go in the 
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under running water. 
If that's the way you do it, I'm

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not going to keep talking about 
washing under running water 

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because that's not the way I do 
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I pre rinse under running water.
I submerge, scrub and then rinse

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under running water. 
Again, no judgement here if you 

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don't do any type of a submerge.
I feel like it it takes more 

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effort and uses more water so 
it's not my method of choice. 

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But just be working on dishes 
obviously whatever that means 

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for you today. 
But as I'm pre rinsing items and

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placing them in the dishwasher I
I'll often come across something

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that I didn't notice needed to 
soak during that first step, if 

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that makes sense. 
OK, that item is going to get 

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submerged or filled up whatever 
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Depending on the size of the 
item, I tend to soak those large

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pots and pans outside of the 
sink. 

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Another thing I and just be 
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while I talk because you're 
setting yourself up for an 

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easier dishwashing session when 
you do the preliminary work, OK.

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And obviously, if you're ahead 
of the game, you can be cleaning

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surfaces in your kitchen that, 
you know, for instance, if you 

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didn't have any dishes to do 
today, OK, if you've been 

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keeping up on your dishes, but 
I'm assuming you've got at least

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one big meal to clean up after 
possibly 24 hours worth of 

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dishes, maybe more. 
No judgement here. 

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I do want you to have the goal 
of doing all of your dishes 

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every 24 hours and, you know, 
getting them done before bed. 

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I get a little more personal in 

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haters aren't going to subscribe

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to them, you know? 
But that's besides the point 

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anyway. 
When you come across an item 

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that is not easily pre rinsed 
and placed in the dishwasher, 

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you submerge it if you're using 
a dishwasher. 

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That's my method. 
OK, I know what else I wanted to

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tell you why you're pre rinsing.
One of the other things that I 

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don't submerge is anything 
that's sharp. 

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I don't put steak knives, 
butcher knives, chopping knives.

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You know, I don't put any sharp 
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You know, I'm not hiding these 
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bubbles and I hope you're not 
doing that either. 

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Butter knives, sure, but my 
sharp knives, and I typically 

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have large ones that I need to 
wash, will submerge those in one

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of the large pots that I have 
sitting on the counter soaking. 

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Because if I've used a large 
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used my large skillet as well 
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soapy water. 
It's a perfect way to soak place

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to soak the knife. 
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large salad bowl or a large 
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kind of caked on the knife. 
If not, you know, if you just 

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used it to chop onions and it's,
you know, going to be easy to 

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clean, clean it under, you know,
running water or whatever, it's 

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real quick. 
But you don't soak a sharp knife

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in the sink under the bubbles. 
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But as I'm I'm pre rinsing items
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lately, I don't run the 
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I used to say like if you have a
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need to do an empty reload, 
reload and run of the dishwasher

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and then wash the remaining 
items by hand that either didn't

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fit or that you didn't want to 
put in there. 

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I used to say that, but I, I 
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not being enough. 
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with that. 
So what I do is I don't actually

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run the dishwasher. 
I just load it and some often 

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times I don't run it at all 
until I'm completely done hand 

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washing everything. 
I'm going to hand wash, but I'm 

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putting things in there, you 
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OK. 
That way when I come across an 

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easy item, I pre rinse it and 
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When I come across a difficult 
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to soaking to soak. 
And you may be thinking, OK, 

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well I've got some items 
soaking, but I've already either

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washed the easy items, you know,
rinse, washed, rinsed and place 

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them in the drying rack or I've 
pre rinsed them and placed them 

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in the dishwasher. 
And those difficult items 

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haven't had very much time to 
soak. 

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Maybe I could just leave them 
till tomorrow. 

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No, no, no, no, no, you're not 
getting off that easy. 

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When I said it's OK to 
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overnight. 
Very rarely do you need to let 

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something soak overnight, you 
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extremely baked on dish. 
Maybe you made a lasagna and 

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then reheated it in the same 
container in the oven. 

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Or maybe you you cook something 
in a crock pot and it's just 

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really stuck on OK. 
There might be like one item 

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like that. 
I don't want you to get into 

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that cycle of having something 
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Even if it seems like your items
need to soak a long time, they 

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probably don't need to soak as 
long as you think. 

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OK, so once you deal with all 
the easy stuff, whether you 

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washed it, rinsed it and placed 
it in the drying rack or you pre

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rinsed it and placed it in your 
dishwasher that's not yet 

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running, you might need more 
soaking time for those pots and 

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pans that you have soaking. 
OK. 

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And don't feel bad if you're not
completely to that point, you 

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know, just keep working on the 
pre rinsing as long as it takes.

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I realize it can take a while if
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on you. 
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encourage you to try to either 
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you know, two to three times a 
day, especially if you have a 

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tendency to feel overwhelmed. 
Or maybe to have a system where 

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you load things in the 
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and then you run it at the end. 
You know, that system works for 

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some people, not us. 
But I realized that there are 

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these pile UPS, you know, you 
get busy for. 

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It happened to me recently. 
You get busy for a few days and 

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you're just constantly on the 
go. 

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And maybe you have kids who are 
dirtying up dishes. 

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And definitely, I've found that 
even when we have a system in 

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place and rules in place, if my 
husband and I haven't been doing

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dishes, it's it's kind of hard 
to get the kids to clean as they

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go when they're walking into a 
kitchen that's messy to begin 

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with. 
So I definitely encourage you to

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get caught up on your dishes and
then turn over a new leaf. 

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I'm talking about teaching by 
example. 

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If you have kids who are old 
enough to dirty up their own 

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dishes, meaning like prepare 
their own snacks and meals. 

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Yeah, I realize some of you, 
your kids are toddlers and, you 

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know, you're cleaning up after 
them. 

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I get that. 
But our current system is that 

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when someone fixes their own 
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that's not one of the family 
meals, which typically happen in

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the evening, they have to wash 
that bowl and spoon or that 

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plate and fork by hand and place
it in the drying rack. 

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It's not that hard. 
And then some people have a role

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where their kid has to pre rinse
it and place it in the 

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dishwasher. 
If you just say like rinse it 

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and place it in the sink, 
sometimes they're just 

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sprinkling a little bit of water
on it and then you're still 

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dealing with dried on food. 
They're not actually filling 

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that cereal bowl up with hot 
soapy water and the cereal is 

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just cemented on the bowl, or 
the Top Ramen is just cemented 

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into the bowl. 
So we have that system and then 

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at dinner time, they're allowed 
to do that more traditional 

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method where they just clear and
rinse their plate and fork or 

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their spoon and, you know, and 
bowl if it was chili or 

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something and you know, clear 
it, rinse it off and place it in

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the sink. 
Then my husband or I do the 

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dishes when we quote UN quote 
close the kitchen. 

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You know that that all important
closing shift needs to happen 

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after dinner or before bed, 
whatever's best for you. 

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But I don't want people just 
going in throughout the day and 

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making these little meals and 
then just letting the food dry 

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on. 
And then we have to deal with 

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this disaster again. 
OK, but it it does happen, you 

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know, when the family's busy and
just things come up or just you 

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haven't had that talk with them 
in a while, you know what I 

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mean? 
Definitely I encourage you to 

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create some kind of system like 
set an expectation if you have 

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kids who are able to prepare 
their own food on how they're 

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going to manage cleaning up 
after themselves as they go. 

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OK, And then more importantly, 
follow that rule yourself, OK, 

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and also hold people 
accountable. 

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And it can be it can be hard if 
you have a large family, it can 

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be hard because you don't know 
who left what nobody's admitting

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to it or whatever. 
But like when you're down to two

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teenagers, it's pretty easy to 
know like whose container it is 

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just by what what they made you 
know, because I know what they. 

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So it definitely gets easier as 
your kids get older for those of

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you who are still in the 
trenches. 

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But you you definitely want to 
hold them more accountable and 

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teach them to clean up after 
yourselves and you know, in 

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these and hopefully you're pre 
rinsing your dishes. 

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But like I was saying, you might
feel like you need more time for

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them to soak, move around the 
kitchen and do some other stuff.

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That's the right kind of 
procrastination. 

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You know, you could walk away 
and start scrubbing your stove 

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top. 
I have a glass cook top, so I 

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just say scrub your stove top. 
But I realized you might need to

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remove burners and clean burner 
trays. 

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You know, it might be a little 
bit of a more complicated job 

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for you. 
You might have items on the 

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counter that don't belong. 
You might have cereal boxes and 

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seasoning sitting out from when 
people prepared meals and that 

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the by people, it might, it 
might be you, you might be the 

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problem. 
OK, let's let's get that stuff 

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put away while those super 
difficult items have a little 

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more time to soak. 
I feel like sometimes I'll look 

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at something and be like, whoa, 
this is going to need to soak 

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for like an hour or something, 
but really it just needs a few 

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more minutes. 
It some of those items need you 

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to go scrub your stove and go 
clean your countertops and then 

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come back and then maybe drain 
the sink and refill it with 

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hotter water. 
Submerge the items again. 

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There's just something about 
looking at items with some dried

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on food and wrongly assuming 
that it's going to take longer 

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than it really does to soak. 
OK, but you have other things 

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you can do in your kitchen. 
If you're down to just a few 

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items, even four or five, even 
10 items that need some extra 

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soaking time, you can basically 
clean your whole kitchen and 

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then come back to those. 
You can wipe down your stovetop 

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and countertop, and I usually 
scrub the stovetop before wiping

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it down. 
I'll put some liquid dish soap 

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on it, get an abrasive sponge 
and just really scrub it. 

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And then I'll let that soap sit 
there for a few minutes while I 

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clear the countertops and I get 
my favorite multi purpose spray 

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and spray and wipe down those 
countertops. 

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Then I come back with a, you 
know, my maybe my dish rag and 

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wipe off that stovetop. 
Then when I go back to the sink,

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those dishes are magically easy 
to wash because they've had some

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extra time. 
And sometimes they do need 

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hotter water put in them for one
last two minutes, soak and some 

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hotter water. 
But you don't stand around while

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your items are soaking. 
OK, you're either washing easier

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items or you're cleaning the 
rest of your kitchen. 

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And don't forget about wiping 
your cabinets, the fronts of 

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your large appliances. 
You know, you start with your 

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upper cabinets and once your 
countertop, stove top are clean,

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you can move down to wiping 
those lower cabinets. 

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Sometimes the lower cabinets get
neglected and they get 

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fingerprints on them. 
And and by fingerprints, I'm not

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talking just a fingerprint, I'm 
talking about, you know, food 

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smudges and whatnot, OK. 
And you can even sweep. 

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And I wouldn't mop before 
washing all the dishes, but you 

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could sweep, finish washing the 
dishes and then mop. 

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OK, This is productive 
procrastination. 

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The important thing is that 
you're staying in your kitchen 

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and, you know, letting, maybe 
letting that dish soap do its 

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work while you scrub other areas
of your kitchen. 

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You know, sometimes you can 
even, you know, kind of take a 

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little detour and organize your 
pantry or your, you know, 1 

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cupboard or whatever. 
Often I need to reorganize my 

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seasonings because we have this 
tiny skinny cabinet. 

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Because you know how you, you 
organize and just be working on 

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washing your dishes, whatever 
that means for you, whether 

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you're loading the dishwasher, 
you know, and maybe you had to 

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empty a drying rack or 
dishwasher first. 

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Definitely. 
I like to keep that task 

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separate. 
But I realize you might be doing

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it all right now. 
Or maybe you're just playing 

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dish Jenga and adding clean 
dishes to an existing pile. 

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I forgot to tell you to put away
any clean dishes. 

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And that's because that's not 
part of my dishwashing session 

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anymore. 
I have delegated that to my 

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teenage daughter. 
Her job is to empty the drying 

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rack and dishwasher, of course, 
put those items away where they 

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go correctly. 
And she's, she does great with 

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that. 
Her job is to do that before 

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4:00 PM when we're starting to 
prep dinner, OK? 

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That way it it's even easier to 
clean as we go when we've got a 

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nice empty drying rack and an 
empty dishwasher when we go in 

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to make dinner and clean up 
after dinner. 

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OK, but I realized that task 
might fall to you. 

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A lot of you might want to 
implement the the habit of 

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emptying your dishwasher and 
drying rack in the morning while

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your coffee is brewing or while 
you're making breakfast or 

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something. 
Just a thought there. 

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I'm really big on separating 
tasks into manageable bite size 

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parts. 
OK, Breaking things down to 

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where I don't have to put away a
bunch of clean dishes when I 

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wash them. 
OK, so just a thought. 

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But I realize some of you needed
to put stuff away, so you might 

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still be washing dishes and 
there might be a lot. 

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I get it. 
I'm trying to give you plenty of

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time for that. 
But if if you get nothing else 

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done other than just your dishes
in this episode, or if you don't

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even get all your dishes done in
this episode, I definitely want 

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you to finish the job. 
I encourage you to baby put on 

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some music after this, get all 
your dishes done and wipe down 

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your upper surfaces and then 
sweep and mop your kitchen 

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floor. 
And maybe you'll need a little 

445
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,760
break, a little rest break 
before you sweep and mop. 

446
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,640
Oftentimes when I'm cleaning a 
messy kitchen and I get all the 

447
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,200
dishes done and the upper 
surfaces wipe, meaning my 

448
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,040
countertops, my appliances, my 
cabinets, OK, you know, cleaning

449
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,320
the stove, cleaning the sink. 
I will sit down and drink some 

450
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,800
water before getting back up to 
sweep or mop. 

451
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,920
Or I'll delegate the sweeping 
and mopping, OK, because I've 

452
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,360
done the hard part, which is 
washing a bunch of dirty dishes.

453
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,640
OK. 
So hopefully I've I've given you

454
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,800
kind of a strategy for dealing 
with all of these dishes and 

455
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,080
hopefully I've given you that 
extra push not to assume that 

456
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760
things need to soak longer than 
they do. 

457
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,320
The trick is to get the items 
pre rinsed and soaking, wash the

458
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,000
easy stuff and then if you still
need more soaking time, maybe 

459
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,280
reboot with hotter water and 
then do some other stuff around 

460
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,960
the kitchen. 
Clean your kitchen and then come

461
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400
back to those items. 
Work smarter, not harder. 

462
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,320
OK, I don't love scrubbing that 
much, and one of the reasons 

463
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,880
that I might be tempted to 
procrastinate on doing my dishes

464
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,800
is if I see that there's going 
to be a lot of scrubbing to do. 

465
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:04,880
But I don't have to scrub that 
hard because I rely on soaking 

466
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,440
things and even re soaking them 
again with hotter water. 

467
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200
OK, that's the way. 
Now, obviously there are 

468
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,280
exceptions. 
Obviously there are times where 

469
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,040
you might just need to really 
bust it out and get those dishes

470
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200
done. 
Somebody's coming over and you 

471
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,760
don't want them to catch you 
with a sink full of dishes or 

472
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000
something and you want to just 
scrub. 

473
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,240
OK, there's a time for that. 
That's why you probably have a 

474
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,800
few different tools, you know, 
various types of scrub brushes. 

475
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040
I've got one that's always my 
pre rinse scrub brush and then 

476
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,640
I've got one where I keep soap. 
You know it. 

477
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,520
You can put soap inside of it 
that's for actually washing 

478
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,120
dishes and that works well for 
those difficult items if you 

479
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,280
need to wash them quickly. 
I also use the like the scrub 

480
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,920
daddy's sponges. 
Lately I've been getting the 

481
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960
ones by that same brand that are
just rectangular that still have

482
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,800
a soft side and an abrasive 
side. 

483
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,240
It's cheaper to get a pack of 
several of those, in my opinion,

484
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,360
and I definitely use this for 
scrubbing the stove as well as 

485
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,640
difficult dishes. 
But a lot of you by now have 

486
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,240
finished your dishes. 
Let's focus on those upper 

487
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,920
surfaces. 
Do you need to remove some 

488
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,840
clutter from your countertops? 
Sometimes? 

489
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,800
If there's someone else in your 
house who helps you with dishes,

490
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:33,880
that person might not be as 
bothered by clutter. 

491
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,720
Let's say you know, whether you 
ask your your, your teenager to 

492
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,040
do dishes or maybe your spouse 
does dishes, sometimes that 

493
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,320
person might be letting some 
some clutter accumulate on your 

494
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,680
countertops. 
I always feel like when I go in 

495
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,360
and do the dishes, like I'm 
actually kind of resetting my 

496
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,040
countertops to be the minimalist
countertops I want them to be. 

497
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,840
I'm not just a complete 
minimalist as far as my 

498
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,680
housekeeping, but one area where
I love to go minimal is the 

499
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,440
countertops. 
There's nothing that says a 

500
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,720
clean house like uncluttered 
countertops. 

501
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200
OK, in my opinion, obviously 
there are people who keep an 

502
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,600
Immaculate home and have a lot 
of decorations and knickknacks, 

503
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880
but I don't want to work around 
all that stuff, OK? 

504
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,520
I like to go really minimalist 
in the kitchen and to me that's 

505
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000
kind of the fun part. 
You know, when I get my stuff 

506
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,960
pre rinsed and soaking, then 
it's time for me to just really 

507
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,960
put everything away and like 
expose my countertops again that

508
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,040
my family's been cluttering up, 
OK and spray and wipe that down 

509
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,120
and make it shine. 
And the more stuff I can put 

510
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400
away, the better. 
I mean, there's always that item

511
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,040
that you need to keep out. 
Maybe it's a toaster, maybe it's

512
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,680
your Keurig, but I even have a 
separate coffee station so that 

513
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,760
I'm not cluttering my counter 
with my Keurig. 

514
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,880
OK, I have another piece of 
furniture over across from the 

515
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,320
dining table. 
It's still in the kitchen, per 

516
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,560
SE, where I have my Keurig and 
the little ice maker. 

517
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,840
It's kind of just a little drink
station and the newest addition.

518
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,000
You know those 5 gallon water 
jugs. 

519
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,360
I'm not sure if I've mentioned 
this yet on the show, but I 

520
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:34,720
bought a pump for 999 on Amazon 
that has you you set the five 

521
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,720
gallon jug wherever you want it.
For me, it's on my coffee 

522
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,960
station slash drink station 
area. 

523
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,000
I set it on that piece of 
furniture or my husband does 

524
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,320
because it's pretty heavy. 
I mean, I can lift it, but 

525
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320
that's one of those things your 
husband typically helps with if 

526
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,240
you're married. 
Instead of turning it upside 

527
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,440
down onto a dispenser, the 
openings at the top and then you

528
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,080
set this pump into it. 
You know, you take the lid off, 

529
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
you set this pump on it, and 
there's a tube that goes down. 

530
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,200
Basically the pump. 
You charge it like every 30 days

531
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:14,920
with a USB cord, but it's just 
battery operated on that water 

532
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,800
bottle. 
I mean, the only drawback from 

533
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,280
using that versus a water 
dispenser is that it doesn't 

534
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,440
chill the water. 
But like I said, we've got a 

535
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,199
little ice maker too, so we can 
put ice in the water. 

536
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:33,840
And we're saving so much money 
it it costs us $1.75 to fill up 

537
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,239
one of those jugs at our 
favorite water station, OK? 

538
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,000
And I mean, by our calculations,
it's saving us at least $100 a 

539
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:49,400
month, meaning we were spending 
$100 more than what we're 

540
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,080
spending on those jugs when we 
were buying cases of individual 

541
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,920
bottled water, OK. 
And I realized there's a happy 

542
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,040
medium you could get, you know, 
gallon jugs and different things

543
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,880
like that. 
But we've just found that this 

544
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,200
works well for us. 
So I just wanted to throw it out

545
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,960
there in case somebody's 
interested in in trying one of 

546
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,600
those pumps. 
I'll put a picture of it in my 

547
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,800
Patreon and I'll also put it in 
the group that's for the 

548
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Facebook group, that's for 
supporters. 

549
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,360
But that's been kind of a kind 
of a game changer. 

550
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:34,920
My point is, I go to great 
lengths to keep my countertops 

551
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,680
sparse. 
I think it makes a huge 

552
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,480
difference in the look of a 
kitchen. 

553
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,400
Obviously keeping your kitchen 
sanitary is the most important 

554
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:51,560
thing, but the minimalist look 
helps too, Especially if your 

555
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,400
clutter is not cute decorations.
It's just stuff that you're 

556
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,320
piling on your countertops. 
OK, you definitely need a system

557
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,040
for putting away clean dishes 
too, so that those aren't piling

558
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520
up too much. 
Clean dishes are better than 

559
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,600
dirty dishes. 
You know, if you're going to 

560
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,880
have a pile of something, but 
your kitchen is going to look so

561
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,400
much better if you're getting 
those put away and you have it 

562
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,920
kind of a streamlined 
countertop. 

563
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,000
OK, Once you've cleaned all 
those upper surfaces in your 

564
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,320
kitchen, again, you're going to 
sweep and mop and maybe listen 

565
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:27,840
to some music while you do that.
Your spouse might, might like 

566
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,760
sweeping and mopping. 
Yeah, this is, this is just a 

567
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,320
generalization, but men a lot of
times don't like the more 

568
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,760
tedious aspects of cleaning. 
So they're more likely to want 

569
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,200
to run a vacuum or a carpet 
shampoo or, you know, you even 

570
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,480
use a broom or a mop. 
So just a thought there. 

571
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,560
Same with teenage boys, really. 
But don't get me wrong, if you 

572
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,320
have teenagers, OK, regardless 
of their gender, they need to 

573
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,800
learn how to do every aspect of 
housekeeping. 

574
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,280
OK. 
And in our house, you know, my 

575
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,280
husband, my husband does a lot 
of the housework, especially 

576
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,800
because he's retired. 
But he, he's always enjoyed 

577
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,320
cooking and he's always, you 
know, cleaned while he cooked, 

578
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,000
you know, and cleaned up his 
mess afterward. 

579
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,840
So my boys do see a role model 
of a man who does work in the 

580
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,080
kitchen. 
I do want to encourage you to 

581
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,560
continue after this episode if 
your kitchen is kind of a 

582
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,160
disaster. 
I will say this. 

583
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,480
It can take up to an hour to 
clean a really messy kitchen and

584
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,600
that's working efficiently. 
Sometimes it does get that out 

585
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,600
of hand. 
I get that, and I want you to 

586
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,280
finish the job, but like I said,
you might need to take a little 

587
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,840
break, sit down and drink some 
water before you deal with the 

588
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,240
floor. 
As I realized, not all of you 

589
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,680
are able to delegate that task. 
Today. 

590
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,040
It might fall to you today, it 
might fall to you all the time. 

591
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:21,760
But definitely as my kids get 
older, I teach them to do more 

592
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,240
complicated aspects of 
housework. 

593
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,320
You know, by age 9, your kids 
should be helping with the 

594
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,320
dishes, vacuuming. 
They should, they should learn 

595
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,200
how to do all that. 
And then by the time they're in 

596
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,200
high school, you should be 
starting to teach them how to 

597
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,440
clean a bathroom. 
And sometimes they do it at 

598
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,000
their summer camps. 
Have you noticed the shift of 

599
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,480
the culture where? 
Because I've heard other people 

600
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,160
talk about it too, like their 
kids are helping to clean the 

601
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,480
bathrooms at summer camp. 
And at first I was thinking 

602
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,240
what, like, we're paying for 
this and they got the kids 

603
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,240
cleaning the bathrooms, but it's
probably good for them, OK. 

604
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,240
And I found out it wasn't just 
the camp that our kids go to. 

605
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,360
My friend's daughter had to 
clean the bathroom at camp too. 

606
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,320
But just in case they're not 
teaching the kids that a camp, 

607
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,720
you need to teach them that at 
some point. 

608
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960
You know, obviously it would be 
gross to have a little kid 

609
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000
cleaning a toilet, but when 
they're in high school, they're 

610
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,880
more than capable of of doing 
that. 

611
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,160
And they should know how to 
clean the kitchen at an even 

612
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,400
younger age, OK? 
I'm not saying that they're 

613
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,560
they're always doing it. 
Sometimes it's a rotation, 

614
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,760
sometimes it's a once a week 
thing. 

615
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,120
But you do need to teach your 
kids to clean, OK. 

616
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,840
And by the time they leave your 
house, they should know how to 

617
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,840
complete all aspects of 
housekeeping. 

618
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,120
They should know how to shop for
groceries. 

619
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,160
They should know how to cook a 
few meals. 

620
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,680
I mean, they don't need to have 
a bunch, but they need to know 

621
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,600
how to cook a few homemade 
meals, OK, And follow a recipe 

622
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,480
in a cookbook, OK. 
And I've taught all my kids 

623
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,720
those things. 
I will say my girls have taken 

624
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:13,680
more of an interest in cooking 
than my boys have. 

625
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:20,440
But my boys. 
Can make a few meals, you know, 

626
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,440
and they know how to follow a 
recipe. 

627
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,560
Anyway, I hope you got your 
dishes done, but don't beat 

628
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,240
yourself up if you haven't. 
Spend the next 20 minutes 

629
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,640
finishing up your dishes and 
cleaning the surfaces in your 

630
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,720
kitchen. 
Maybe take a break and then go 

631
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:42,200
back in and sweep or vacuum. 
Special special thanks to my 

632
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,240
financial supporters who've 
already unlocked bonus episodes.

633
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,120
But even just listening to these
free episodes helps me. 

634
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,920
I realize not everybody's able 
to subscribe. 

635
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:56,880
Thank you so much for listening.
I appreciate each and everyone 

636
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,440
of you. 
And as always, happy cleaning. 

637
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:01,200
I'll talk to you in the next 
episode.

