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I'm Ronnie and you're listening 
to Clean With Me, the podcast 

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where I talk you through 
cleaning your house. 

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I had a dream last night that 
someone was let in through my 

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bedroom patio door and ushered 
into my master bathroom. 

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I had seen it on a security 
camera and was trying to picture

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whether or not my bathroom was 
clean enough for guests, so I 

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took that as a sign to have you 
clean your bathroom. 

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In this episode, a lot of you 
are listening while cleaning 

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your kitchen, so we're going to 
do that too. 

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It's time to gear up for your 
cleaning session. 

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Maybe you need to freshen up for
the day and get dressed into 

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something that's comfortable yet
presentable. 

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Run a brush through your hair, 
wipe the old makeup off from 

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under your eyes, or wash your 
face and put on a full face and 

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makeup. 
Whatever it takes for you to 

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feel ready for the day, now's 
the time to do that. 

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And of course, some of you might
want to light a candle, start a 

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wax warmer, take out the trash 
to get your house smelling 

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fresh. 
While you're doing one of those 

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things that I just mentioned, 
I'll just let you know the theme

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of this episode and its change 
starts with you. 

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A lot of times we make excuses 
that other people in our 

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household are messing up the 
house, our spouse, our kids. 

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And I get it, that definitely 
can be an obstacle. 

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But in this episode, I'm going 
to encourage you to stop waiting

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for your spouse to change. 
Obviously with kids could be a 

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discipline issue, and I'm real 
big on having chore lists for 

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kids and consequences and 
rewards and all the things. 

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But when it comes to other 
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change when they want to change,
and they're also heavily 

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influenced by those who they 
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So when you turn over a new leaf
in your house, I know people 

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aren't automatically going to do
exactly what you do, but they 

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are going to do better in a 
clean environment. 

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If you don't believe me, just 
test it out. 

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The first thing I want you to do
is gather up dishes from around 

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the house. 
Just make sure all your dishes 

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are in the sink or next to the 
sink so that we can be as 

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efficient as possible when 
cleaning your kitchen. 

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The next thing I want you to do 
is make sure you have the proper

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tools. 
New day, new rag, folks, get a 

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clean dish rag. 
Make sure that you have other 

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tools that you like to use 
handy. 

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Maybe you like to use a sponge 
that's abrasive on one side, 

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soft on the other. 
Maybe you like to use a scrub 

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brush with a handle or even one 
of those dishwashing wands where

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you can put dish soap in the 
handle. 

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Gather up your favorite tools. 
And then the next step, of 

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course, is to put away clean 
dishes. 

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OK, this could mean emptying 
your dishwasher. 

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It could mean emptying your 
drying rack. 

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It could mean clearing off a 
drying pad or a towel where 

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you've laid out clean dishes. 
Let's get all of those items put

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away. 
You might be tempted to skip 

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this step, but don't you need to
be able to quickly set things 

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down after you wash them? 
And if you're like me, you're 

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going to put some things in the 
dishwasher and you're going to 

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hand wash other items. 
Or if you're completely 

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overwhelmed today, you could 
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OK, that's kind of an emergency 
measure. 

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I'll, I'll talk about another 
emergency measure too. 

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But the first thing I want you 
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everything to the kitchen is get
any difficult items. 

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Soaking that pot, that pan, that
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residue. 
Let's get some hot soapy water 

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into those pans and get them 
soaking while we move on to 

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washing the easier stuff while 
you're getting those more 

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difficult items soaking. 
And of course, as always, if 

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you're caught up on dishes, just
be cleaning the surfaces in your

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kitchen. 
But for a lot of you, you're 

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getting those difficult items 
soaking while you're doing that.

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I just wanted to talk about 
something that you might be able

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to do here in a few minutes, and
that's letting a sink load soak 

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with a dishwasher pod in the 
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This is a shortcut that I do 
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And then you come back an hour 
later and you don't have to 

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scrub. 
I haven't done this in a while, 

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but it's just one of those 
emergency techniques when you're

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short on time and you need to go
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and then come back to the 
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I'm talking about those days 
where you're facing a dish 

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shaster. 
OK, you you know what that means

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If you've been listening to the 
show for a while, it's where not

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everything fits in the 
dishwasher or can be hand washed

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in just a couple sink loads. 
But once you've gotten those 

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difficult items soaking, you 
might want to quickly straighten

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up your countertops. 
This gives you a quick win and 

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could possibly improve the view 
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I'm really big on good first 
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If someone else in my family 
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like I haven't done anything 
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So that's why I clean in an 
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That starts with the view from 
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This isn't a living room or 
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there's a glaring problem by 
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want to take care of that. 
But as far as my kitchen, the 

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kitchen island can be seen from 
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the countertop, and there might 
be a part of your kitchen that 

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can be seen from the front door.
I like to get that part of the 

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countertop cleared off quickly. 
Maybe there is empty food 

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packaging there, or maybe people
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and other miscellaneous items on
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Let's get that cleared off for a
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when you look into the kitchen. 
But once you've done that little

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bit of straightening, it's it's 
time to either load your 

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dishwasher or start that first 
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And for me, starting the first 
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the silverware, the bowls, maybe
the cups if it's not too much 

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stuff. 
I don't like to overload the 

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sink, especially with breakable 
items with fragile glasses and 

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mugs. 
I will often get those soaking 

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kind of like with the pots and 
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You know when you get that ring 
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in the bottom of a glass or mug,
a little bit of dish soap and 

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some hot water in the cup can go
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So I'll get those soaking while 
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silverware into the sink if I'm 
hand washing. 

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OK, I realize some of you are 
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Some of you are hand washing 
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So just be working on dishes, 
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But if you do need to do an 
additional sink load and it's 

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time for us to move on to the 
bathroom a little later in the 

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episode, you can always put the 
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hot water, a little bit of 
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dishwasher pod for a super soak.
That is going to get the stuff 

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virtually clean already without 
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And then you can come back and 
rinse those items off like an 

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hour later. 
And in that situation, I would 

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recommend setting a timer 
because this episode is not 

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going to be an hour long, 
setting a timer to get back to 

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it. 
So just be plugging away on the 

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dishes, whatever that means for 
you, even if you need to leave a

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load to soak and then set a 
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I talked about this in the last 
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when leaving things to soak is 
that you're coming back to them 

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later in the day. 
You don't want to, excuse me, 

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You don't want to leave them 
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You don't want to always have 
something soaking where you're 

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just in a perpetual cycle. 
You want to get down to dish 0 

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before you go to bed every 
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nights. 
Obviously, nobody's perfect and 

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life happens, and sometimes 
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important than getting the 
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But I want that to be the norm 
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And if it's not, that's OK. 
You've come to the right place. 

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I'm going to help you establish 
those habits while you're 

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working on dishes. 
I'm going to give you a little 

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marriage tip. 
I already touched on the fact 

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that you shouldn't wait for your
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over a new leaf as far as your 
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And I'll also add to that you 
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by nagging them, especially in 
this delicate balance called 

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marriage. 
What I would recommend, and 

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don't get me wrong, my husband 
is probably a better housekeeper

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than I am. 
So I'm I'm not talking about 

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him. 
That's a disclaimer. 

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But I know a lot of you have 
messy husbands, so that's who 

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I'm talking to right now. 
And obviously this works in 

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other areas besides just 
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So I do know what I'm talking 
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You want to reinforce positive 
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OK, Your spouse is not your 
child. 

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You don't give them 
consequences. 

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You don't nag. 
But what you do is you reinforce

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positive behavior. 
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especially true with most men 
when they've done something that

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they view as extra or out of the
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They are expecting affirmation 
for that and I realize you might

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not be getting positive. 
You know affirmations when you 

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clean. 
And sure your spouse should walk

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in and tell you the house looks 
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But then when he does something 
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expecting you to notice it and 
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OK. 
People are self-centered, it's 

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human nature. 
I'm not saying it's right or 

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fair that he's expecting you to 
react when he cleans and then 

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when you clean it's just it 
treated as the default or 

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something. 
I'm not condoning that. 

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But we're talking about goal 
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If your goal is for him to do 
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your relationship, commenting on
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And let's face it, people are 
heavily influenced by those who 

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they spend time with. 
So if you're commenting, hey, 

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the house looks nice, oh you did
dishes, thank you. 

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He's more likely to say those 
same things to you. 

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Like I like I said, change 
starts with you. 

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And before you come at me, would
you want to be nagged or 

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criticized or told that you're 
not doing something right? 

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Or would you want someone to 
comment on your efforts when you

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do the thing they want you to 
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Do you like it when your spouse 
walks in and says, hey, the 

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house looks nice? 
Wow, you've been working hard. 

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And maybe that doesn't happen 
very often, but those times when

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he does something, if you 
comment on it, then he's more 

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likely to do the same for you. 
Or at the very least, he's going

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to want to clean more to get 
those words of affirmation. 

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Obviously, I'm making 
generalizations here and this is

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not necessarily going to work 
for you exactly how I think it 

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is. 
But with this podcast, chew up 

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the meat, spit out the bones, I 
throw things out because some of

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it might resonate, some of it 
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By the way, if you do happen to 
be listening on Spotify, I've 

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discovered a new feature on 
there where I can create polls. 

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So when you click on the 
episode, take the poll. 

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It only takes a second to to 
answer 1 multiple choice 

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question, so I'll probably 
address this topic in a poll. 

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Some of you like these tidbits 
on marriage and some don't. 

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I get that. 
Don't give me a bad review. 

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But you can respond in a Spotify
poll or you can e-mail me at 

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cleanwithmepodcast@gmail.com. 
And sometimes I do get reviews 

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where they say stick to cleaning
this and that, but keeping your 

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house clean is a family affair. 
And if you have other people in 

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your household, that does come 
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And some people do want help 
with navigating these 

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situations. 
And I'm not saying that there's 

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not a time or place to say I 
would love it if I could get a 

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little bit of help with the 
dishes. 

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And don't get me wrong, I'm not 
saying not to talk about the 

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division of Labor and who does 
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These conversations do need to 
happen, but I've read a lot of 

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marriage books and it's more 
effective to express something 

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as a desire. 
Like I would just love it if I 

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could come home once to a clean 
kitchen, something like that, 

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rather than nagging or 
criticizing, you know, use those

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I statements. 
And as far as kids, it's always 

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good to have them clean before 
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And kids prefer a chore list 
rather than you just asking them

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to do things on a whim. 
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do that. 
Hey, I need you to clean this up

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while I'm gone. 
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got to go take care of 
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I need you to clean up the 
living room, or I need you to do

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these few dishes I didn't get 
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Yeah, that's a thing. 
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appreciate it much more if I 
just say, check the chore list 

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and do your chores while I'm 
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They tend to like that better 
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thought into the chore list and 
it's more fair than these orders

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that I might just bark out. 
It's divided up in a certain way

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already. 
I put a lot of thought into it 

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once, I mean, once every few 
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often. 
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it's, it's like it's the list 
telling them what to do instead 

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of me. 
And they tend to like that 

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better. 
Maybe that would work with a 

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spouse, but I don't put my 
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It's just not, not the dynamic 
in our relationship, but it 

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might be in yours. 
Your husband might be like, if 

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you could just put what you want
on this chore list, it'd be 

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easier to make you happy. 
I can't read your mind. 

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Sometimes people just want to 
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So don't get me wrong. 
I'm not saying that your husband

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can't be on the chore list after
you've had this conversation 

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about a division of Labor. 
I'm also not saying that he has 

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to help you with any particular 
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different situations as far as 
who works more, who likes doing 

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what, who's good at what. 
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things like vacuuming, sweeping,
and mopping more than things 

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like doing dishes and whatnot. 
So if your spouse is dirtying up

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the kitchen, he might he might 
prefer kind of a system where he

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pre rinses his dish and places 
it into the dishwasher rather 

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than dishes piling up and then 
you're asking him to do the 

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dreaded task of washing the 
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That's how I do it with my kids 
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And my husband tends to just 
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himself in the kitchen, but I 
know not all husbands do. 

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A lot of you are still plugging 
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But of course, for those of you 
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did not have any kind of pile up
today, you may want to start 

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wiping down your kitchen 
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Or if you're in a state of 
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day where you're going to give 
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swipe. 
You're going to wipe down your 

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table and chairs if they're 
sticky. 

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You're going to clean out your 
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And then after you've cleaned 
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and bathroom floor and then mop 
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But I'm going to give you just a
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whether that's to finish the 
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a swipe or to do more detailing 
of surfaces if your dishes are 

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done at this point. 
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a bathroom. 
So sometimes getting your kids 

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and husband to do more around 
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things like showing appreciation
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I wish I could wake up to a 
clean kitchen. 

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I wish I could come home to a 
clean kitchen, things like that.

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But other times it involves 
sitting down and having the 

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conversation and formally 
dividing up the labor. 

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You know who does nobody in the 
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Or do you like doing dishes but 
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I mean, the best way to divide 
labor is for everyone to do what

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they like. 
But sometimes there are a few 

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tasks that nobody likes to do, 
and that's where it can get a 

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little bit tricky. 
Somebody's got to do it. 

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But I do think of a spreadsheet 
with columns for different days 

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and people listing what's 
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can work wonders. 
That's how I do it with my three

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teenagers. 
My husband and I work as a team.

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Basically. 
We both do the remaining items 

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that are not on the kids 
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And I have put myself on the 
spreadsheet in the past, but I'm

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no longer doing that because I 
don't think it's the kids place 

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to hold me to something like, 
hey, mom was supposed to clean 

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the kitchen today or whatever 
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So yeah, I'm going to keep 
myself off of that list going 

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forward. 
But in reality, we don't usually

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have the kids cleaning the 
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In my opinion, the important 
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kids are older teenagers, they 
have done all the things like 

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they know how to do dishes, they
know how to clean the kitchen, 

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they know how to sweep and mop, 
they know how to deep clean a 

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bathroom, etcetera, etcetera. 
But that doesn't mean that that 

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needs to be their chore on an 
ongoing basis. 

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We just have a rule that when 
kids dirty a dish and it's not, 

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it's not the official dinner 
that my husband or I cooked, 

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that they washed that dish from 
start to finish. 

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Basically, they help keep the 
kitchen clean, but either my 

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husband or myself washes the 
lion's share of the dishes and 

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does most of the kitchen 
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But they've all had times where 
cleaning the kitchen and doing 

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dishes was on their chore list, 
so they've learned to do it. 

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Making a chore list for kids is 
the easy part, but the division 

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of Labor labor between spouses 
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things. 
Cultural norms, the family that 

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they grew up in. 
I think one of the reasons why 

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my husband is so good about 
cooking and cleaning. 

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He grew up with all brothers so 
there wasn't some kind of a 

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gender role issue where these 
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the girls or something. 
And my sons see a dad who cooks 

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and cleans. 
Everyone should clean up after 

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themselves and be willing to 
take on some of the 

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responsibilities around the 
house. 

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And it can vary, you know? 
Maybe you just want your husband

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to pick up after himself and 
take out the trash. 

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Or maybe you're both working a 
lot and you need a lot more from

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them. 
But remember that change starts 

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with you. 
Reinforcing positive behavior 

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and other adults is far more 
effective than griping or 

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punishing. 
OK, hopefully I've given you 

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enough time in the kitchen and 
you've got it done. 

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Other than the floors. 
As always, use this episode how 

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you want. 
Some people are just doing 

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general housework while they 
listen, and some people are 

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trying to clean along, but I 
always gear the show towards 

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someone who is cleaning along. 
In case you are, and I feel like

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a lot of you are, that's a 
question for a future poll on 

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Facebook, Spotify, or Patreon. 
I plan on doing more polls for 

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you because I like to hear from 
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Let's head to the bathroom and 
before you even start that pre 

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clean that needs to happen where
you remove all clutter, I want 

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you to get your toilet bowl 
cleaner into the toilet bowl. 

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Whatever product you use to 
clean the inside of your toilet 

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bowl, get that in there. 
Grab your toilet scrubbing brush

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and scrub the bowl, but then let
that product sit. 

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Maybe you even want to reapply 
more product after you've given 

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the toilet bowl a swish. 
But you're going to let that 

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toilet bowl cleaner do its work 
while you clean the rest of the 

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bathroom. 
And it only takes a minute to 

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get that toilet bowl soaking. 
But then it's time for that pre 

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clean. 
You might have bath mats or rugs

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on the floor that need to be 
taken to your laundry room. 

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You might have random items. 
Your family might be a work in 

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progress. 
They might be dropping towels or

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clothes on the floor. 
You might have even been the one

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to drop that stuff. 
So you might have to pick some 

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stuff up off of the floor. 
Definitely have a policy of 

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whichever bathroom is your guest
bathroom that nobody should be 

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leaving anything on the floor. 
And let's face it, nobody should

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be leaving anything on any 
bathroom floor. 

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But if you're gradually trying 
to improve your household 

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habits, start by keeping that 
bathroom, that guest bathroom, 

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perpetually clean. 
And I'm not saying you have a 

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dedicated guest bathroom, but 
for me, I'm talking about the 

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hall bathroom. 
That's also my kids bathroom. 

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I don't really care if my 
husband drops something in the 

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master bathroom floor, but it 
makes me crazy when kids are 

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leaving shoes and clothes in 
that hall bathroom, which is 

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also our guest bathroom. 
Maybe you need to, maybe you 

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need to clear off your bathroom 
countertop. 

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If this is your master bathroom,
you're more likely to have some 

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things spread out. 
Curling irons, flat irons, 

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crimping irons, waving irons, 
all the things. 

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You need a place for those and 
you're probably not using all of

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them every day. 
Our everyday items and that I 

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keep out in the master bathroom 
are a blow drying brush. 

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My teenage daughter likes to 
come in my bathroom and use a 

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blow drying brush. 
I went through a phase where I 

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was using it but passed it on to
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I don't have any guilt when I 
buy things and get tired of them

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because I've got all these 
daughters that can take them on.

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But I don't use that very often.
But I do use a wide curling iron

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just to kind of shape my bangs. 
Like I'm not curling my bangs 

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80s style, but I'm particular 
about how they hang. 

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So I use a really large curling 
iron for that. 

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And so those two items are 
usually out. 

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And then I have a basket 
underneath that has kind of a 

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waving iron, a smaller barrel 
curling iron, and a couple flat 

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irons. 
But when I'm cleaning the 

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bathroom, they all get put into 
that basket that's in the 

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cupboard. 
It's like a miniature laundry 

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basket. 
It looks like a laundry basket, 

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but it's small. 
I put all those items away. 

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So when I'm talking about 
clearing off your vanity, I'm 

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talking about things that don't 
belong there, but also things 

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that do things that you do keep 
there on a regular basis, like a

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soap dish, your toothbrush 
holders, your toothpaste, that 

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little dish where you put your 
rings. 

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Let's move all of that aside 
somewhere so that you can click 

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quickly. 
Clean the surfaces. 

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I feel like one of the reasons 
that we procrastinate on 

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cleaning the bathroom sometimes 
is the pre clean part. 

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It's not really cleaning the 
surfaces and it's like that in 

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every room of the house. 
For me, cleaning the surfaces is

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no big deal, but what can make 
me feel overwhelmed is if I let 

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an area get cluttered. 
And you may be different, you 

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may dread cleaning the toilet. 
But if you've been listening to 

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this show for a while, you know 
my solution for for people who 

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have an aversion to cleaning the
toilet, get some gloves. 

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OK, they could be disposable 
gloves or reusable, whatever 

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you're more comfortable with. 
And you know, get one of your 

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old, get one of your old COVID 
masks to cover your nose and 

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mouth or tie a bandana around 
your face. 

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If you don't like getting up and
close and personal with the 

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toilet with your face exposed, 
that can kind of go a long way. 

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And obviously this this pre soak
of the toilet bowl can also go a

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long way and sanitizing that 
gross part of your toilet. 

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Not that the rest of it isn't 
gross. 

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I also really like cleaning the 
exterior parts of my toilet with

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disinfecting wipes, but I know 
that can be expensive. 

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You can also use a separate 
cleaning product and paper 

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towels to do that same thing for
cheap. 

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And of course some of you are 
using reusable rags. 

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I just can't fathom that. 
I like to use disposable stuff 

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when cleaning the toilet, but 
we're going to get back to the 

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toilet later. 
Clear off your vanity, pick up 

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everything off of your bathroom 
floor, and then it's time to 

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scrub the countertop part, scrub
out the sinks, you know, using 

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your favorite bathroom cleaning 
products or just whatever you 

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happen to have on hand. 
And then you're going to end 

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with the bathroom faucets and 
the mirror. 

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Something that I'm super excited
about is the way I'm cleaning my

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larger mirror in the master 
bathroom lately in my kids 

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bathroom. 
And it's on their chore list to 

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clean that bathroom. 
So it doesn't usually fall to 

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me. 
But when I'm cleaning that 

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bathroom, cleaning the mirror is
not a big deal. 

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I'm just spraying some glass 
cleaner and then quickly wiping 

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it with a micro fiber wipe or 
micro fiber cloth. 

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There's not a lot of lighting in
that bathroom. 

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I mean, there are lights, but 
there's no natural light coming 

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in. 
So even if someone does a less 

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than perfect job cleaning the 
mirror, you're not going to see 

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those streaks or anything 
because there's not a window 

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with natural light coming in. 
However, in my master bathroom, 

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there's a huge mirror and then 
there's a window above the tub 

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that lets a lot of natural light
in so you'll see the streaks if 

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it's not done perfectly. 
And I'm not being a 

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00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,640
perfectionist here, it it looks 
awful if the mirror is not 

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00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520
cleaned right. 
And I also can't even reach the 

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,520
entire mirror. 
What I've been doing is I take 

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00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:49,480
the Swiffer mop from my kitchen 
and instead of attaching the the

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00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:56,160
pre moistened mop pad I attach a
clean dry micro fiber cloth to 

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it. 
But you could also stripe strap 

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that micro fiber cloth to any 
type of mop with rubber bands or

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,680
something if you wanted to. 
But it it works well with the 

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00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Swiffer type thing that's 
designed to just wrap a pad 

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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,240
around and then you kind of push
it in with your fingers on the 

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back. 
Some of you know what I'm 

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00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,320
talking about. 
But I basically spray that huge 

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00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,800
mirror with glass cleaner. 
I don't have to be able to reach

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the top to do that. 
And then I'm using this mop with

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the micro fiber cloth attached 
and I and I just literally mop 

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the mirror. 
It's so effective. 

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It's so quick. 
You don't know how happy I was 

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00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,440
to discover that I posted a 
video of how that works and on 

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00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:52,160
my TikTok and also kind of a 
slideshow thing of it on my 

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00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Instagram. 
My TikTok is clean with me pod 

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00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,480
and my Instagram is Ronnie S. 
If you're already using those 

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00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480
apps, I'm not asking you to 
start using social media apps 

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00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,760
you're not already on. 
But I throw it out there because

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some of you are on those apps 
and of course, my Facebook page 

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00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,840
is Clean with Me podcast, and I 
think I even did a reel about 

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00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880
mopping the mirror. 
So if you're following me on any

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00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,960
form of social media, you're 
going to get the visual on some 

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of the things I talk about. 
And I plan to post more visual 

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content in the near future. 
So once you've cleaned your 

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countertop, your sink, your 
faucets, and your mirror, of 

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course, pause the episode if you
need more time. 

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I don't know how messy your 
bathroom was or how big it is. 

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It's time to clean the exterior 
parts of the toilet and then 

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00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,800
scrub that bowl one last time. 
And if there's still some type 

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00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,120
of a water line, like if you 
have extremely hard water, there

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00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400
could still be some 
discoloration in your toilet 

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00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,920
after you scrub the bowl. 
You can use a pumice stone to 

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00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,400
get rid of that line. 
And no, it doesn't harm the 

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00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
finish. 
It's designed for that. 

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00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,720
It was kind of funny when I was 
buying that pumice stone on a 

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00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,960
handle in my grocery store, the 
grocery checker was like, does 

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00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
this work? 
Or does this damage the inside 

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00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440
of the bowl? 
I've been thinking about buying 

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,120
one of these, but I'm afraid to 
use it. 

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00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,760
And in my mind I was thinking, 
how did you know I'm a cleaning 

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00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000
podcaster? 
But of course, I told her, you 

504
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200
know, it does work. 
And it says right on the package

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00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040
that it it won't damage the 
porcelain or whatever. 

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00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,720
And usually getting in there 
with a disinfecting wipe is good

507
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,440
enough. 
But of course, you can remove 

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00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,240
your toilet bowl lid for 
effective cleaning around the 

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00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640
hinges and stuff. 
And when you're cleaning your 

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00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,560
toilet and you get down to where
you're cleaning the exterior 

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00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,360
part of the bowl, the base of 
it, make sure you're scrubbing 

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00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,400
the floor around it. 
The best time to clean your 

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00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,840
floor and baseboards that are 
right by the bottom of your 

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00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,280
toilet is when you're down there
cleaning the toilet. 

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00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Because let's face it, your mop 
is not going to get in there as 

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00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,920
good as you're going to get with
your bare hands while you're 

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00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160
down there, or gloved hands if 
that's what you're using. 

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00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,920
And you know, on this show, I 
don't talk a lot about scrubbing

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00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,200
the shower and the bathtub 
because I encourage you to kind 

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00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,840
of combine that with maybe your 
leisurely shower or bath on the 

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00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,920
weekend. 
However, when I'm deep cleaning 

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00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,400
my master bathroom, I do deep 
clean the shower doors. 

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00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,000
If you have clear glass shower 
doors, they're going to take a 

524
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760
little bit of extra care, 
especially if you have hard 

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00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,640
water. 
So when I'm in that bathroom 

526
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:46,520
cleaning, I like to spray the 
inside and outside of my glass 

527
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,800
shower doors. 
I'll get a glass cleaner that 

528
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,000
contains white vinegar or I'll 
use a spray bottle with vinegar 

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00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,040
and water because that helps to 
get rid of those hard water 

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00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560
stains. 
And sometimes I'll scrub with 

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00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,400
something abrasive, you know, a 
little scrubby pad and then I'll

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00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,080
spray it again and then wipe it 
with something soft like a micro

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00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,440
fiber cloth or even a bathroom 
squeegee. 

534
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,760
We have a rule that when someone
uses our shower, they have to 

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00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,320
wipe down the inside of it with 
a squeegee. 

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00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,240
You could also use a micro fiber
cloth for that or you can do 

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00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280
both. 
But we can tell when somebody 

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00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,160
takes a shower and doesn't use 
the squeegee. 

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00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Often when we're gone, one of 
the kids will decide to use our 

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00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,120
shower and not use the squeegee.
But they've, they've gotten 

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00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,200
better about it. 
But once in a while, somebody 

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00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240
doesn't. 
One time my husband was like, 

543
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,640
somebody took a shower in here 
and didn't use the squeegee. 

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00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,080
And I'm like, well, you know, it
wasn't me because I'm the one 

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00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,440
who made that rule. 
By the way, he doesn't like it 

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00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,640
that I make a lot of rules that 
apply to him. 

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00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,200
So always tread lightly with 
your significant other. 

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00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,440
Since you're going to scrub your
shower or bathtub in another 

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00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,080
step. 
I like to separate that from the

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00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,600
bathroom cleaning product 
process, and I think one of the 

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,560
reasons that I do that is 
because it does help you avoid 

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00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,639
procrastination on cleaning your
toilet, vanity and sink, which 

553
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,000
are the dirtier parts of your 
bathroom and the floor. 

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00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,920
You're not going to 
procrastinate as much when you 

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00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,239
separate the task of scrubbing 
your tub or shower floor or 

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00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520
shower walls. 
That's going to be done at a 

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00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
different time, so you're not 
going to feel overwhelmed with 

558
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,400
this big bathroom cleaning 
project. 

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00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,679
I do have some episodes where I 
have you do that, but I 

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00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,199
recommend just keeping some 
cleaning products in your shower

561
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,480
or tub and cleaning as you're 
getting in or getting out. 

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,320
So on that note, you're going to
end with your bathroom floor. 

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00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,880
You're going to sweep and mop 
your bathroom floor. 

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00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,280
If it's a big bathroom, if it's 
a smaller bathroom, you might be

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00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,480
able to kind of combine that 
process. 

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00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,160
That's my favorite thing when 
I'm cleaning my kids bathroom 

567
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,920
now and then I'm I let's I'll be
honest, I'm usually cleaning 

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00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440
that bathroom when I'm expecting
guests because they do a good 

569
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,280
enough job on a weekly basis. 
But when I'm expecting company, 

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00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,560
I want that guest bathroom 
detailed by an adult or at least

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00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,640
by my 18 year old son who has 
more experience than the younger

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00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,280
ones at detailing a bathroom. 
But I will often just grab a pre

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00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,360
moistened Swiffer mop pad. 
I get the generic ones or the 

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00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Swiffer, doesn't matter. 
Just pick your favorite scent 

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00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:48,840
because that's really effective 
on my shiny bathroom tile and I 

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00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,880
do it in the same way. 
I like to describe it as when 

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00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,440
you're wiping off the countertop
after you've made toast and 

578
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440
there are some toast crumbs that
you don't want to brush onto the

579
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,200
floor. 
You're kind of grabbing them up 

580
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,280
in that damp cloth while you're 
wiping down the countertop. 

581
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,880
That's kind of the technique I 
use in a tiny bathroom when I'm 

582
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,760
combining the step of sweeping 
and mopping and doing it with a 

583
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,600
cloth, a damp cloth or pre 
moistened pad. 

584
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,680
In a pinch, I've been known to 
clean that floor with Windex and

585
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,280
paper towels, but I really like 
using those pre moistened mop 

586
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,440
pads and I'll even go a step 
further and wipe the bathroom 

587
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,080
baseboards with those. 
By the way, your bonus task in 

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,320
the bathroom, should you choose 
to accept it before you mop your

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00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,200
way out of the bathroom, is to 
wipe down your switch plates, 

590
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,240
door knobs, the part of the door
that people touch a lot, outlet 

591
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:51,000
covers with a disinfecting wipe 
or pre moistened mop pad or 

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00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,080
whatever else, a rag, whatever 
you use while you're finishing 

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,520
up in the bathroom. 
I just wanted to say special 

594
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,400
thanks to my financial 
supporters who support the show 

595
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,560
either on Apple Podcasts, 
Patreon, which you can do 

596
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,560
straight from Spotify if you 
have a Patreon account or 

597
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Breaker supporters Club, which 
there's going to be a link in 

598
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
the episode description for 
that. 

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,160
And if you happen to be watching
on YouTube, only a few of you 

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00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,280
are doing that, but I appreciate
you. 

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,240
There'll be a link to clean with
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602
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,400
there, you'll find links to the 
different ways to support the 

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show and of course, gain access 
to the long bonus episodes. 

604
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,040
But even just listening to this 
show helps. 

605
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,520
So even if you're not able to 
pay for bonus content or you 

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,840
don't want to, I understand. 
Just please click follow or the 

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00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,000
plus sign on whichever platform 
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By the way, in Monday's episode,
we're going to be doing dishes 

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and then cleaning your bedroom, 
so don't miss that.

