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Well, good evening. 
Thank you, thank you. 

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If I have, don't know you. 
My name is Andrew me. 

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And my wife, and our three kids.
We used to be a part of Frontier

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church. 
And about a year and a half ago,

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we moved down to Texas where we 
are currently serving in student

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Ministry down there. 
So we've just been here for a 

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handful of days and it's been a 
joy to be with you. 

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So thank you for allowing me 
this privilege to teach tonight.

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And to talk about something that
is often misunderstood or is 

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just not thought about it all. 
I've got a couple of goals for 

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us tonight and hopefully you've 
seen. 

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I'm still on the frontier Church
text messaging list so I know 

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Cole has been blasting you with.
Hey, here's what's coming up? 

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Here's some articles to read. 
So I know that you hopefully 

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understand what, what what 
tonight is about. 

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But we're going to be talking 
about the harrowing of Hell or 

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the dissensus, or the Christ 
descent into the underworld, or 

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his descent into hell. 
And we're going to unpack that 

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here in just a little bit. 
But on the outset of teaching, I

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just want to give you my two 
goals for the tonight. 

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I've got two goals, the first 
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Is I want you to have handles to
hold on to this doctrine of 

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Christ descent things that you 
can hold on, you say, okay. 

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I know what this is. 
I understand it. 

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I know how this impacts my life.
That's goal. 

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Number one and the goal. 
Number two is, I want you to see

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how Christ descent gives us joy.
How Christ is sent should cause 

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us to worship Him and love him. 
And follow him, more closely to 

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simple goals. 
And then a disclaimer, there is 

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a lot of content about this 
doctrine of Christ to Ending 

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into hell tons of it. 
I've got 30 minutes tonight. 

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Hopefully, I will stay within 
that those boundaries, but I've 

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sent through a lot of coal 
sermons or he went over the 

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boundaries of 30 minutes or 50 
minutes. 

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So I might get to just drop a 
nuke tonight and he gets to deal

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with all the Pastoral 
ramifications of that. 

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But anyway, so there should be 
some things. 

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There should be some rocks that 
were not going to uncover and 

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see what's hiding under those 
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But what I want to do tonight is
to give you an overview of what 

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this Doctrine is. 
And how this leads us to find 

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our joy in Jesus and to follow 
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So I'm going to pray and they 
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of scripture and that what I 
want to show us is how this 

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actually impacts our daily lives
how this impacts the way we 

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think about Jesus and how this 
impacts the way that we think 

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about ourselves. 
So let's pray and I'm going to 

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dig into God's word together. 
Father, I thank you so much for 

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this church. 
I think you that after a year 

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and a half, I get to return and 
see how this church family has 

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grown, and is flourishing. 
And not just because they have a

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building. 
But because of people who are 

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investing in people in this 
church, I think you for this 

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pastoral team in Frontier and 
how they, they feed the flock, 

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and how they shepherd, the flock
of God, and how they understand 

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that, they are under Shepherds 
who were being shepherded by 

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Jesus. 
I think you for the people who 

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loudly they are truths through 
song on Sunday morning. 

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It's a beautiful picture to see 
people who come from different 

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walks of life and different 
backgrounds and come together as

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God's people and worship. 
And declare that Jesus is king 

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of kings. 
And he's the Lord of lords that 

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he is, Sovereign over all. 
And so, I think you for the 

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blessing that Frontier church, 
has been to my family and how 

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they've been a blessing to the 
city of Des Moines. 

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And so I pray that you would 
continue to bless them that you 

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would give them Grace and that 
you would continue to show them 

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your kindness. 
In the powerful name of Jesus 

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that we declare these things and
ask these things of you, amen. 

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All right, so tonight we are 
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We're talking about him, going 
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he's crucified. 
And I've been, I was a part of 

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Frontier for about five and a 
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day one. 
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Apostles Creed, we did that 
tonight and you see this phrase 

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pop up? 
He descended into hell. 

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I don't know if you're like me, 
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I was Southern Baptist my entire
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I serve in a Southern Baptist 
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into That phrase, he descended 
into hell and that would freak 

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me out. 
Like, what are you toeses think?

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Talking about you, Tommy the 
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that's because I believed my 
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h-e-l-l-o meant a place of 
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hear that and be like families. 
Catholics are weird. 

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Why are we reading this Apostles
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those, those anglicans, they are
some weird Falk. 

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They believe that Jesus 
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is going on here? 
But as I've grown and come to a 

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Understand the scriptures more 
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the Apostles Creed is trying to 
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It gave me a broader view of 
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those who would follow him. 
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dissension of Christ into hell. 
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the Afterlife and I want to 
flush that out here more in just

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a second but we all know about 
Good Friday. 

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Good Friday, we may wear black 
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We turn the lights down, we 
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celebrate, and we mourn our sin 
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crucified on behalf of the 
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We know that. 
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they were like well I guess 
we're just waiting. 

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We just going to fill these 
Easter baskets baskets on 

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Saturday night. 
So the kids can have them and we

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really don't know what to do 
with Saturday and then and then 

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Easter Sunday morning, we could 
celebrate and sing our guts out 

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about Christ. 
Resurrection, but there's this 

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time in between that we neglect 
often in our theology, in our 

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understanding of Christ's 
Ministry that that, that we can 

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squeeze out more joy out of it. 
And so this this day Saturday 

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which throughout church history 
has been known as Holy Saturday.

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We look at what Jesus did 
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We'd look at we're all pretty 
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then Christ was resurrected, but
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in-between? 
What's what He accomplished 

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while his body was dead, while 
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while his heart had no beet 
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What is Christ at work doing? 
What does he accomplishing in 

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his death and this doctrine of 
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The dissensus, the harrowing of 
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though his body is dead, his 
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God's people and God's glory and
God's judgment over the forces 

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of evil. 
There's so much that we can 

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learn. 
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And I love this Doctrine, just 
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whenever I started to understand
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with this Doctrine. 
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we accomplished here in these 
next, few moments will be 

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helpful for you and that 
whenever you get to Holly 

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Saturday here in a few weeks 
that it your Holy Saturday won't

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be wasted but that you'll 
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You'll know what to celebrate on
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Sunday it. 
So we're going to look at three 

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passages here and what I really 
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of with what one of my favorite 
theologians will call a matrix 

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of ideas, how all these ideas 
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present us with information 
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So the first pass is going to 
look at and if you want to turn 

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there and your scriptures or 
turn on your glowy screen and 

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and figure out what's going on 
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Revelation 1 and we'll look at 7
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17 and 18. 
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and we're going to kind of use 
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And as I said earlier, there's a
whole mine that we can dig and 

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bring things back up to the 
surface and the passages that 

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we're look at tonight, we're not
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that. 
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after we're done tonight, I can 
give you some more resources, 

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Point some books out to you that
have been really helpful for me.

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But we're to look at these 
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and then I get to leave and then
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Frontier does next year on Holy 
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And how you guys are Going down 
into the mines, digging up these

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jewels that we find in these 
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Let me read read for us here. 
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feet as though dead, but he laid
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fear not. 
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the living one, I died and 
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I am alive for Evermore and I 
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Hades. 
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read. 
I don't know how many times in 

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my life in the Bible reading 
plan or just me being bored. 

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Like, let's look at this kooky 
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simple versus here. 
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So we have John, who is given 
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is encountering Jesus. 
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conversation with Jesus and John
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he's freaking out. 
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I was dead. 
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Face and then Jesus lays his 
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And he says, fear not. 
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will? 
He unpacks and things but he 

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says, behold I have the keys of 
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What is, what does that mean? 
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language of keys in the Old 
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and the Greco-Roman culture of 
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We're not, we don't have the 
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Jesus is saying, is that I have 
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Hades, Hades is the Greek word 
for hell and not just a place of

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eternal torment. 
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your soul goes somewhere, your 
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understand this more fully. 
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people conceptualize the world. 
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the world as a, it was a three, 
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There were the heavens, there's 
the Earth, and there's the realm

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under the Earth and that realm 
under the Earth is where your 

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soul goes to after you die. 
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faithful people in the Old 
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something to happen. 
After they died, when their soul

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is separated from their bodies, 
they they have hope that God is 

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going to reunite their bodies 
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And in Revelation, we see this 
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new heavens and a new Earth. 
But but where do where do these 

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souls go? 
When they die, will they go into

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the underworld? 
If you were to ask someone 5,000

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two thousand years ago. 
What happens when you die, they 

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would tell you, well our souls, 
leave our bodies because we If 

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that we're not just we're not 
just sacks of flesh but there's 

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something that inhabits our 
bodies. 

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And when we die, when our blood 
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bodies, whenever our lungs 
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our souls depart somewhere and 
it goes into the underworld, it 

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goes into Shale is the Hebrew 
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understanding or it goes into 
Hades which is the Greek 

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understanding of the afterlife 
but you'll see this language of 

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Underworld. 
So when I swear I'm going to use

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these words very interchangeably
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underworld Realm of the dead. 
It's this this concept of when 

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you die, your soul goes 
somewhere, you don't just cease 

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to exist. 
You don't just you're not just 

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annihilated. 
But you, your soul goes 

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somewhere in the hope for God's 
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And the Old Testament is that 
God would resurrect you. 

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He would reunite your body and 
your soul and you would Rule and

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reign with him forever. 
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of, okay? 
There's this three-tiered Cosmos

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Heaven Earth, the underworld 
where you go when you die. 

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And you're there. 
And it's not, it's not that 

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you're being punished as an 
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follower of God, but you're in 
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says, I hold the keys of death 
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I have ownership. 
I can unlock these Gates. 

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I am the title holder here. 
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the deed to this property? 
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property. 
I own the these things. 

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I own death. 
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I own these things. 
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you, John, and today, that 
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the big things, he's authority 
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Life and death. 
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that your soul goes when you die
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This more in a little bit. 
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we see, Jesus Authority, that 
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When we see Jesus, Jesus have 
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I don't know about you, but my 
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time or two people that I love 
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out of control after a time or 
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as followers of Jesus is that he
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Nothing is a surprise to him. 
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with, with the knowledge of 
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his holding the keys, Over Hades
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I used to have a key to Noche 
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back. 
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of ownership but I don't own 
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Only went up in there one son 
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illusion of ownership with 
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everything. 
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underworld He has control over 
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Hades and death will then what 
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there's like a I'll punch a 
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of Jesus having the keys, 
there's an awesome book called 

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The Battle of the keys. 
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when he descended. 
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Jesus, whenever he was 
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would say he gave up the ghost, 
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He snatches the keys from 
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why that's important to 
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keys and having the keys in our 
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So Jesus having these Keys 
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to get these keys. 
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point us to is First Peter 
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Peter chapter 3 will look at 
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First Peter 3, 18 to 22. 
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here of Jesus, is the owner of 
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Well, why is that significant 
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suffering or they're about to 
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there is a level of suffering 
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these churches that are 
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he writes to them, he addresses 
their suffering and then he says

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for Christ also suffered once 
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unrighteous that he might bring 
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and The flesh but made alive in 
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We've heard you talk about some 

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things like this before. 
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some things like that before, 
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went and proclaimed to the 
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What are you talking about here 
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He went to his Spirit went and 
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prison. 
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God's patience waited in the 
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being prepared in which a few 
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brought slave safely through 
water baptism which corresponds 

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to this now saves you know as a 
removal of dirt from the body 

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but as an appeal to God for a 
good conscience, Through the 

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resurrection of Jesus Christ who
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the right hand of God with 
angels authorities and Powers 

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having been subjected to him. 
There's a lot of stuff in there,

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like I've heard that before, 
then you kind of hear, he 

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wouldn't proclaimed a Spirits in
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What is what's going on here? 
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Peters assuming in addressing 
his original audience and we can

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we'll pull back a couple layers 
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in his audiences that they're 
familiar with the story and it's

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called first Enoch where Enoch 
and it's a way we could no doubt

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on this and spin like seven 
hours talking about this 

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tonight. 
But I'm trying to be I'm trying 

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to be helpful. 
Be helpful in If you help. 

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fictional story is not in the 
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but it's the story of Enoch. 
He was a righteous man he walked

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with God and he is taken for he 
is not so he never tasted death 

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and then Enoch gets summons by 
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imprisoned in hell and the 
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unrighteous compartment of hell 
and they gets he gets summoned 

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by them so he not goes down 
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guys? 
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knock hey Can you go tell God 
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We're sorry for this whole thing
that we this whole Genesis 6 

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thing where we were the sons of 
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We were sons of God and we came 
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We made babies made these things
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kind of wild not a hand. 
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please tell him that we are 
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again. 
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presence and he tells God hate 
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They said that they're sorry, 
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again. 
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them it's just as bad and I got 
some bad news for you. 

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You're not going to be released 
from your change. 

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You're going to remain 
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punished, you're going to be 
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These homies who were in Chains 
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it's cool that you're sorry but 
you can't undo what you have 

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done. 
There is no forgiveness for you.

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so he preaches to them and then 
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but Peters, audiences connect 
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their minds, this dissension to 
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prison and then Enoch goes back 
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Enoch as a typology pointing to 
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Christ, he was righteous, but he
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could go and preach to Spirits 
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And so Jesus on, Holy Saturday, 
he is crucified and his Spirit 

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descends into the underworld. 
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that we said that word proclaim 
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English, but a better way to to 
help us understand this in a 

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better translation. 
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So Jesus is going on this 
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into the underworld and these 
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against God in Genesis chapter 
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got this, dude, he thought he 
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could, he thought he was gonna 
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never gonna die while we got 
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And Jesus says, hey, I've got 
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I'm only going to be up in here 
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going to be resurrected and I'm 
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Creation. 
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My spirit is alive. 
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gospel to these evil spirits, 
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prison who stepped outside of 
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As we see elsewhere in scripture
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But there is no hope for 
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There is no hope for a change of
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is he's, I picture in my mind, 
he's rattling. 

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The cages of their jail cell and
saying, what you have done is 

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going to be undone by me. 
I have the keys now, I could let

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you out if I wanted to, but I'm 
not going to let you out. 

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I could do this but I'm not 
going to because what you have 

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done is you've perverted 
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You have brought more corruption
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you or agents of the kingdom of 
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darkness is not going to 
overpower the Kingdom of Light. 

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The city of man, the evil city 
of man is not going to overpower

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the city of God. 
This Kingdom you tried to build 

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is not going to be powerful 
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That is going to be that. 
It's going to be thwarting. 

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The kingdom of God, Jesus has 
the keys. 

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He's Jingling the keys in front 
of them. 

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Hey, you guys want to get out? 
Oh, psych. 

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You can't get out, but they were
also what he's doing. 

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And we see this in Ephesians 
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We have a ton of time to get 
into that. 

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But, but it talks about Jesus 
descending. 

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There's a lot of debate on this 
passage and I can show you later

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why there's debate on this but 
talks about Jesus descending to 

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the lower regions. 
If you have the ESV is going to 

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say the lower regions comma the 
Earth. 

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the earth. 
I just read a toll call like I 

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would read a bunch of stuff 
other night and it kind of gave 

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me too much content and I just 
verbally diary and up here right

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now as a result of that. 
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helpful translation is that he 
did descend into the lower 

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regions of the earth. 
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And what he does is, he leads a 
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gifts to men. 
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go on a preaching tour and 
Proclaim his victory over the 

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principalities and over the 
darkness and over the evil 

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Spiritual Beings, but he also 
does something else. 

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He leads a host of captives and 
gives gifts to men, Luke talked 

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about on Sunday, and I hate that
he's not here because I was 

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gonna give him a hard time about
just because it's fun to do to 

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Luke, but, but he talked about 
God's victory, over the Gods on 

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the Earth. 
He set me up real well for 

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tonight. 
God is going to destroy these 

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gods that are on the earth that 
are leading God's people astray 

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and causing them to worship 
idols. 

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And now what we see in Jesus 
descent as him and his victory 

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over the Spiritual Beings and 
the underworld under the Earth. 

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Jesus, secures Victory on the 
cross whenever he is the perfect

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spotless atoning sacrifice. 
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underworld and he proclaims his 
victory, he proclaims that. 

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What I have done my perfect 
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This was sufficient to rescue 
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Underworld and Usher them into 
God's presence. 

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And so, Jesus goes on this 
preaching tour, it's like, eight

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pronounces, judgment pronounces 
that there is no hope for these 

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rebellious Spiritual Beings, but
then he also brings out. 

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God's faithful people that are 
in the Underworld, I should have

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mentioned us earlier. 
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conceptualize the underworld, as
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compartment of this not should 
have put a graphic on the screen

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but, you know, I'm not like coal
and all that graphics on screens

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but there's an unrighteous 
compartment where the people who

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have rejected God and the 
following other gods are and 

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where evil Spiritual Beings are.
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compartment where the Old 
Testament Believers were 

446
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located. 
But when Jesus goes down in 

447
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there, he leads a host of 
captives. 

448
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,800
He brings God's faithful people 
out of this out of the 

449
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underworld. 
Old and brings them into God's 

450
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presence. 
He gives gifts to men. 

451
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If you look at later on and if 
he's in chapter 4, what Jesus 

452
00:23:57,100 --> 00:24:01,500
does is the gifts that he is 
giving our roles in the church 

453
00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:04,200
that benefit the church and that
build up the church where he's 

454
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,300
building up his kingdom. 
Within These Little mobile human

455
00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:11,200
beings, who are images of God 
and who are filled with God's 

456
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,900
presence. 
They are now that they're the 

457
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:16,300
new temples that are walking 
around and saw Jesus. 

458
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,600
He pronounces judgment Heap. 
Announces victory in the 

459
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Underworld but he also rescues a
group of people. 

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And Peter also goes on here in 
First Peter chapter 3 he uses 

461
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Enoch was kind of the story of 
Enoch. 

462
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,500
That's in the social imagination
to show that Jesus is better 

463
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than Enoch. 
He's stronger than Enoch, he's 

464
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more powerfully than Enoch. 
He didn't just like Enoch, he 

465
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didn't, just go and preach he 
preached. 

466
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But then, he rescued and led 
people out of out of the 

467
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underworld and to God's 
presence. 

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And that's good news for us 
because whenever our souls 

469
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depart from our bodies Upon Our 
death, Is that we don't just go 

470
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into the underworld? 
We get to be like that thief on 

471
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the cross, who Jesus says today 
you will be with me in Paradise.

472
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,900
We get to be in God's presence 
and if you know your Bibles and 

473
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,100
you know, Revelation when you 
know that it's not the end of 

474
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,700
Heaven is not just like Cole 
said the other day on our pot, 

475
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:11,000
on the podcast, Heaven is not 
the end zone. 

476
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,400
Heaven is the red zone there is 
going to be a day that comes 

477
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:18,800
whenever we die in our souls. 
Go to be present with Christ. 

478
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,900
There's going to be a day that 
comes where Heaven and Earth are

479
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:23,800
going to overlap and it's going 
to be a new Heaven and it's 

480
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,500
gonna be a new Earth. 
The Whole Earth is going to be 

481
00:25:25,508 --> 00:25:28,800
the Garden of Eden as we better 
than anything we could possibly 

482
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,300
imagine. 
But our souls, and our bodies 

483
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:33,600
are going to reunite all because
of what Jesus has done on the 

484
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cross and in his dissent. 
And so we have the hope that 

485
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we're not just going to be this,
disembodied spirit for eternity 

486
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,900
and that was still be sweet 
enough, right? 

487
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,000
We get to be disembodied 
floating around with our that 

488
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,300
looks like as a disembodied 
spirit with Jesus, but, but 

489
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:52,800
Jesus is returning back to 
God's. 

490
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,700
I bring returns us back to God. 
Odds ideal of being embodied 

491
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:04,000
spirits, who dwell and Rule, and
Reign alongside God as a 

492
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,800
glorious reality, that Jesus has
accomplished on behalf on our 

493
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,800
behalf. 
I don't know about you, I 

494
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,500
couldn't accomplish this, right?
I've sent a couple of times as 

495
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:15,600
I've been here. 
There's a long story, but 

496
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,000
anyway. 
Yeah, stay up way too late every

497
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,500
night this week. 
My kids have stayed up way too 

498
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,500
late every night this week, but 
the last text that I want to, 

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that want to point us to. 
We've looked at Revelations, we 

500
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looked at John. 
Look at First Peter, we've heard

501
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,800
Peters encouragement of the 
church that hey, I know, you're 

502
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,900
suffering and suffering is gonna
get worse for you. 

503
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,900
But Jesus not only suffered on 
the cross for you but he also 

504
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,300
descended into hell. 
And proclaimed his victory over 

505
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:50,300
over sin and over death to that,
that should help you. 

506
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,700
That should help you be 
motivated to pursue 

507
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:54,800
righteousness whenever you're 
being persecuted. 

508
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,900
We've looked at those those two 
two pieces of scripture and if 

509
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you might think that, well, this
is just what these guys, this 

510
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,700
was their interpretation of what
Jesus had to do. 

511
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,600
They just kind of came up with 
this, on their own, but if we 

512
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,900
take a gander at Matthew chapter
12, we see that Jesus has this 

513
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:18,300
in his in his mind, as well. 
The Jesus. 

514
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,500
Talks about him descending 
wasn't just what some guys were 

515
00:27:23,508 --> 00:27:25,100
like. 
It'd be cool if we wrote some 

516
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:26,800
stories about Jesus descending 
into hell. 

517
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,800
That wouldn't that be awesome if
we talk about that? 

518
00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:30,500
But Jesus conceptualize this as 
well. 

519
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,300
In Matthew chapter 12 verses 38 
to 42 you probably got the 

520
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heading in your scriptures that 
says something like the the sign

521
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,600
of Jonah May have some different
language there, but and the ESV 

522
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,500
what I've got here is the sign 
of Jonah. 

523
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,500
And so Jesus is talking with 
these fools, the scribes the 

524
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Pharisees and they were talking 
to him and they said, hey 

525
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800
teacher, we wish to see a sign 
from you. 

526
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,500
Jesus has been engaging, these 
scribes and the Pharisees, and 

527
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,600
they've been dogging him and 
trying to get them, but Jesus 

528
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,500
knows who they are and Jesus 
Jesus. 

529
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,800
So he is going to win and Jesus 
answers them an evil and 

530
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,000
adulterous generation seeks for 
a sign, but no sign will be 

531
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,100
given to it except the sign of 
the prophet. 

532
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,700
Jonah for just as Jonah was 
three days and three nights in 

533
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,300
the belly of the great fish. 
So will the son of man be three 

534
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:27,900
days and three nights in the 
heart of the Earth, the men of 

535
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:31,000
Nineveh will rise up at the 
Judgment with this generation 

536
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,900
and condemn it for they repented
at the preaching and behold 

537
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:36,500
something greater than Jonah is 
here. 

538
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,900
The queen of the South will rise
up at the Judgment with this 

539
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,500
generation and condemn it for. 
She came from the ends of the 

540
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,300
Earth to hear the wisdom of 
Solomon and behold something 

541
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:48,200
greater than Solomon is here. 
So Jesus uses Jonah as an 

542
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,500
archetype, as a typology of what
he is going to do. 

543
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:55,200
If you don't remember the story 
of Jonah, which as long as you 

544
00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:58,700
don't remember it, as Like in 
terms of VeggieTales then you 

545
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:00,000
can kind of understand what's 
going on here. 

546
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:05,800
Jonas told to go preach to 
Nineveh caught, tell them to 

547
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,100
repent and Jonah says, no, I 
don't like those guys. 

548
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,900
And so Jonah goes, the exact 
opposite direction gets on a 

549
00:29:12,908 --> 00:29:14,600
boat. 
The boat starts rocking in a row

550
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,900
on. 
The sailors are praying to all 

551
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,200
their guys and they're like, yo,
don't know, why are you asleep 

552
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,100
in this boat? 
Man? 

553
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:20,800
We're about to all about to die.
I pray to your God. 

554
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,800
And so I was like, hey, this is 
because of me, guys. 

555
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000
If you chunk me over the the 
edge of this boat will be good 

556
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,100
to go. 
So they tossed Jonah over the 

557
00:29:28,108 --> 00:29:30,400
boat and he goes into the water 
and he's like, okay, cool. 

558
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400
I finally Like I'm for sure, not
going to Nineveh. 

559
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Now I'm going to die, I'm going 
to drown and then this fish 

560
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,700
comes in Scoops, Jonah out. 
And then we see Jonah kind of 

561
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:41,100
come to terms. 
He kind of repents he prays this

562
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,800
prayer and Jonah talks about him
being in the pits, which another

563
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,700
way to think about that as Jonah
was envisioning himself. 

564
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:51,800
As in Shale. 
He was, he was in this place and

565
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,700
he had descended down. 
And then he gets spewed out onto

566
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the shores and he had goes to 
Nineveh and preaches. 

567
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And Jesus says uses this as the 
sign of Jonah, these scribes and

568
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,300
Pharisees are wanting a sign 
they wanted Jesus to do 

569
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:08,200
something that and Jesus has 
been providing, all these signs 

570
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,100
has been healing. 
People casting out demons, and 

571
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,700
preaching and teaching, but they
want something more in, Jesus 

572
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:16,500
says, what I'm going to do, I'm 
going to take on the sign of 

573
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:18,600
Jonah Jonah. 
Went into a fish for this amount

574
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,500
of time but I'm going to go into
the heart of the earth. 

575
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,600
So Jesus is saying I'm going to 
go into anyone. 

576
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,600
Say that the understanding is 
that he's going into the place 

577
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,900
of the dead, that's where he's 
going to be. 

578
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,700
He's descending down in there 
and then he's going to rise up 

579
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:35,800
again victoriously and he's 
going to have this preaching 

580
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,500
tour just like Jonah did Jonah 
went and preached around in 

581
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,700
Nova. 
Looks very short and what we 

582
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:44,100
have in the scriptures but Jesus
while he's descended and why 

583
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:47,100
he's resurrected preaches. 
Then he resurrects and it is at 

584
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:52,000
this as a sign of the power of 
God that he holds the keys. 

585
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:56,500
That he has authority over all 
things that death cannot control

586
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,100
him. 
That's a lot of information, a 

587
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,600
lot of content, right? 
There's probably some murky 

588
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,700
areas that I left there and I'm 
some of them. 

589
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:05,800
I left intentionally murky to. 
So you can have some follow up 

590
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,500
with coal while I'm gone. 
We recorded a podcast yesterday 

591
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,800
that maybe can be complementary 
to this. 

592
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:15,600
But as I said, the beginning, I 
wanted to give you some 

593
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,000
information to give you handles 
onto this doctrine of what 

594
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,300
happened when Christ died, the 
you just die and go take a nap. 

595
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,100
That he died and just wait for 
his resurrection or was he at 

596
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,200
work? 
I think the scriptures have 

597
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,700
given us an information here 
that Jesus was at work. 

598
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:33,700
At First Peter 3 pack, text has 
become one of my favorite 

599
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:38,000
passages because it shows him at
were even, Jesus Is So Glorious.

600
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,600
And so powerful, that even while
his body is dead, his soul is 

601
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,000
securing the hope and the 
destiny of the faithful. 

602
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:51,500
The Jesus, even when his, 
whenever his body is lifeless 

603
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:55,000
his soul. 
Is proclaiming victory over the 

604
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,800
kingdom of darkness. 
Let that sink in to your to your

605
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,100
mind in your heart. 
That's how powerful our Jesus 

606
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:06,300
is. 
Our King has his Reign, never 

607
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:11,200
ends and even when it looks like
he lost there on the cross, he 

608
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,800
didn't his economy is upside 
down from that than that of 

609
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,800
other kings, he died so that he 
could be a sacrifice, but he 

610
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,100
died. 
So also he could go down and 

611
00:32:21,108 --> 00:32:24,200
Proclaim judgment over the 
principalities in the rulers of 

612
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,300
Darkness that are in the 
Underworld. 

613
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,000
That's how powerful Jesus. 
Is that should give us joy. 

614
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400
That should give us, hope it 
does this Doctrine. 

615
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:37,400
I'll end with this here before 
we get to respond, to the power,

616
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,500
and the Majesty of Jesus. 
But this, this Doctrine has been

617
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:45,700
special to me and several ways. 
This as I talk with people who 

618
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:50,000
have a fear of death, as I think
about my depression and anxiety,

619
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,900
as I think about the evil that 
exists in this world, embracing 

620
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,300
the doctrine of Christ descent 
into hell. 

621
00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:00,800
Helps me combat those things. 
Helps me combat where I think 

622
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,300
that things are just not going 
to get better. 

623
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,800
And you guys, if you were a part
of Frontier year and a half ago,

624
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,000
so I'm going to bawl my eyes out
and I was just a point where I 

625
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,900
felt like nothing was ever going
to get better. 

626
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,600
There's gonna be stuck in this 
state, embracing this doctrine 

627
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,300
of Christ descent that he 
suffered on my behalf and 

628
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:21,100
descended into the place of the 
dead and he pronounced victory 

629
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,700
over the rulers of Darkness. 
He pronounced a victory over 

630
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,700
sin. 
He pronounces victory. 

631
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,900
Over death, that's come. 
I was comforting for me to 

632
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,900
embrace him that to think that 
Jesus didn't just suffer. 

633
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,800
But even when he was dead, he 
was at work for me. 

634
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Help me combat that. 
I kind of have this irrational 

635
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,500
fear of death at times, but 
then, thinking of how Jesus is 

636
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,100
Victorious over death, that 
death could not hold him. 

637
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,500
And the, that that the rulers of
evil thought that they had 

638
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,800
defeated Jesus, but Jesus says, 
I'm going to be resurrected, You

639
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,500
Don't Own Me. 
I own you. 

640
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400
The helps me come combat. 
That it helps me. 

641
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Also, give me a beautiful 
picture of baptism. 

642
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Baptism is a picture of this 
story of Jesus being crucified. 

643
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,800
He's buried. 
Shenzhen to hell. 

644
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,500
And then he's a resurrected and 
brought to New Life, it gives us

645
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:14,699
another angle to view baptism 
with there's so many 

646
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:17,900
implications that we have with 
this doctrine of Christ. 

647
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,400
The scent. 
I know, it's weird, right? 

648
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:21,900
If you think it's weird, it's 
okay. 

649
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,900
But if you also think that Jesus
was born of a virgin, that's 

650
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:28,100
also pretty weird as well. 
So who's to say that Jesus is 

651
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,000
limited. 
He doesn't descend into the 

652
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,400
underworld and pronounced 
victory, over the spirits who 

653
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:41,699
are imprisoned So I hope that 
yeah that this content went 

654
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:44,199
longer than I should have but I 
hope of this content. 

655
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,300
Was it helpful for you? 
Just to kind of conceptualize 

656
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:50,100
what's going on and feed you 
with joy in Jesus. 

657
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,400
So now we get to we're going to 
confess the Apostles Creed again

658
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,300
together, and then we're going 
to have to worship Jesus Through

659
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,900
song after we get this Apostles 
Creed done. 

660
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,800
If you got questions about any 
of the stuff, I joked and said I

661
00:35:00,808 --> 00:35:03,300
was gonna do it on coals lap, 
but I've got some more notes and

662
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:07,100
some resources that might be 
helpful for you, but I'm 

663
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:10,800
passionate about this I love it.
It's changed is impacted me. 

664
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,200
It's been good for me. 
I've been like, oh, it's not. 

665
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Do those Catholic weirdos who 
balloon talk about the stuff, 

666
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,600
but people for centuries, 
believe this in confess this and

667
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,200
I can talk to you about the 
history of that. 

668
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400
And when it changed, but I'm 
glad that I get to be a part of 

669
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,900
a be here in a part of this with
you tonight and y'all don't look

670
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,400
at me. 
Like I've got 12 heads on my 

671
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,500
shoulders right now because I've
set talk about this up before 

672
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:39,100
and people look at me like I was
a fool anyway. let's stand and 

673
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:42,700
can and and confess the Apostles
Creed together with that with 

674
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:38,000
the mindset of what Christ did 
for us when he descended let's 

675
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,600
stand and can and and confess 
the Apostles Creed together with

676
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
that with the mindset of what 
Christ did for us when he 

677
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,100
descended
