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My name is Cole. 
We haven't met. 

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I'm the lead pastor at Frontier 
and I get to preach most 

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Sundays. 
We are in Week 5 in our really 

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long sermon series through the 
book of Titus. 

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And so if you've got a Bible, 
you can go and get that open. 

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If you don't have a Bible, don't
feel bad without all the 

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relevant words on the screen for
you. 

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But this morning we spent like 
four straight weeks just digging

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through Paul's introductory 
notes in the letter that he's 

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writing to Titus. 
I had fun. 

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I don't know about you. 
It was a blast for me. 

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We got really nerdy and we dug 
into a lot of the original text 

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and I hope it feels a little bit
more familiar. 

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Strangely enough, as we pivot, 
so Paul, he's done with his 

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introductory notes. 
As we pivot from his 

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introductory notes to the main 
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letter, has an interesting first
thing that he wants to talk 

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about to these Christians and 
these churches that are in on 

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Crete. 
Crete, this island that's filled

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with pirates and filled with 
crooks and filled with crazy 

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people. 
These churches have sprung up on

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this little island. 
And now that Paul has said hi, 

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grace and peace, what he wants 
to talk about is actually 

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pastors or elders or overseers. 
They're kind of synonymous 

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terms. 
And so for those of you who are 

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members at at this church, we're
going to talk about pastors this

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morning. 
And for the majority of us, I 

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think this morning is probably 
not going to be the most 

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exciting sermon that you've ever
heard as a part of your biblical

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diet at this church. 
It probably won't hit like a 

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coffee that makes you feel like 
you want to run through a wall 

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for Jesus. 
It's not going to feel like a 

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coffee. 
It's not going to be super 

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energizing. 
I think it's probably going to 

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hit more like a multi vitamin, 
or so I've heard. 

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For those of you who take 
multivitamins, right, it's not 

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going to energize you right off 
the bat. 

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What it's going to do is it's 
going to feel more like a 

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multivitamin that that works 
quietly in the background to 

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help create a much healthier and
more joyful body. 

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So yes, sweetheart. 
Huh. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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You can go kids in the room. 
If you're a kid, can you raise 

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your hand really quickly? 
Casey, I am glad that you guys 

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are in here. 
You guys are not an obstacle to 

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what we're doing in this church.
You guys might be one of the 

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most important things in this 
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Here's what I'm going to do 
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Kids, you did great. 
You can put the hand down. 

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You did awesome. 
I'm going to talk this morning a

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lot about pastors. 
And as I talk about pastors, I 

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might say a lot of things that 
you don't understand. 

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And you know what? 
That's OK. 

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Because even though you might 
not understand everything I say 

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about pastors this morning, what
I do say is going to create a 

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healthier church that is more 
fun for you guys to grow up in. 

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And so even if it goes over your
head, this sermon is for you. 

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But if you're a kid, the most, 
if you're an adult too, but 

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specifically if you're a kid, 
the most important thing you 

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need to hear from me this 
morning is the gospel. 

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So you need to know that Jesus 
loves you so much that he died 

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for you on a cross. 
And if you believe in him, he 

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will take away all your sins and
he will cover you in his 

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righteousness and he will give 
you heaven forever. 

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And if that sounds crazy, if if 
your heart leaps for joy at that

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news, I want you to poke your 
mom or dad after church and say,

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dad, mom, can you tell me the 
gospel? 

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That's the single most important
thing for you to hear this 

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morning. 
So if you're able, would you 

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stand for the reading of God's 
Word? 

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Paul has said, hi, hello. 
Here's what I'm trying to do in 

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this letter, Grace and peace 
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And then he pivots in verse 5 to
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Crete. 
And by the way, I love that like

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the way that Paul phrases, that 
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Like it kind of gives you the 
impression that Crete was just 

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this absolute dumpster fire that
Paul bailed on and was like, OK,

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Titus, you stay back here. 
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He left Titus and Crete. 
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This is why I left you in Crete 
so that you might put what 

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remained into order. 
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By appointing elders in every 
town on the island, as I 

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directed you, if anyone is above
approach the husband of one wife

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and his children are believers 
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debauchery or insubordination 
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See how he's using that term 
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Synonymously with with a elder 
as an overseer, as God's 

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steward. 
What's a pastor? 

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What's an elder? 
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God steward for an overseer as 
God steward must be above 

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reproach. 
She must not be arrogant or 

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quick tempered or a drunkard or 
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hospitable, a lover of good self
controlled, upright, holy and 

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certainly disciplined. 
Heavenly Father, I pray that as 

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we work through this text, you 
would bring to mind the names 

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and faces of our elders. 
These are not just hypothetical 

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people in Crete. 
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pastors and overseers in this 
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Steven Kerr. 
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elder? 
Amazing. 

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Jaron Moore, the fellas that 
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two years of training that we're
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the next couple weeks. 
Jay Frichty. 

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Wow. 
Noah Holthouse, even Joseph 

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Donifrell, what amazing men the 
Lord has brought to Frontier 

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Church in order to lead us. 
I pray that we would be an 

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encouragement and a blessing to 
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Do all these things in the 
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All God's people prayed. 
Amen. 

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You gonna have to see if if you 
know Paul's other letters in the

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Bible, then you probably could 
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thing that Paul is going to say 
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Almost always whenever you read 
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himself and then he jumps right 
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And so you would guess at the 
first thing that Paul would jump

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into after his introduction 
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would be right in almost every 
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But if you guessed that about 
his letter to Titus, I'm sorry 

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sweetheart, you would actually 
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What's the first thing Paul says
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gets through the introductions? 
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go build pastors. 
It things are a mess here, go 

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find, train, and install these 
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Why? 
Well, if you've heard the other 

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4 sermons on Titus so far, you 
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answer. 
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which is where Titus is, is an 
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It's filled with mercenary 
soldiers who are dishonest and 

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pirates who are thieves and 
wolves who want to destroy the 

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church. 
And because of this, this young,

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these young fledgling churches 
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pastors or this, that's exactly 
what this would lead us to 

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believe. 
They are a football team without

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a coach. 
They, they are a, they're a film

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cast without a director, right? 
They're, they don't have healthy

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leadership apart from Titus. 
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of finding these people and 
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If Titus gets the pastors wrong,
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perish. 
If Titus gets the pastors right,

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the churches will probably 
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And so the main point of my 
sermon today, which I'm going to

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try to keep shorter than usual, 
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God establishes healthy churches
through healthy leaders whose 

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lives imperfectly, but whose 
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Let me show you where I'm 
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Look at verse 5. 
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exact leader he's talking about 
are elders, or as he calls them 

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synonymously in verse 7, 
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Let me explain. 
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and overseer and pastor, they, 
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They're synonymous terms that 
are just used in different 

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locations. 
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tend to as a church, use the 
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And so pastors or elders or 
overseers, they're the leaders 

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that God gives to the church to 
lead through three big 

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categories. 
Pastors lead through three big 

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categories. 
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Old Testament and New Testament 
direction, doctrine and 

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doctoring souls. 
Don't you guys love 

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alliteration? 
Don't roll your eyes at me. 

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It's great doctrine, direction, 
doctoring souls. 

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They're the chief leaders under 
Jesus in a local church, and 

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they're charged with the 
direction of the church or the 

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important decisions and taking 
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They're charged with upholding 
the doctrine of the church, what

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gets taught and what doesn't get
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And they're charged with the 
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ongoing prayer and care and 
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And again, Paul says, Titus, 
Titus before you do, it's such a

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strange way to plant a church 
because I so we planted this 

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church nine years ago and the 
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like, OK, here's how you plant a
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You got to launch the church 
Instagram and then try to get as

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many people to follow it as 
possible and get the word spread

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around town, right? 
You want to find, you got to 

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find the right camera so that 
you can take videos of the 

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sermon and put it on Spotify so 
to show people your sermons. 

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And there's nothing wrong with 
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It's just not the strategy that 
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Paul's strategy for planting 
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find elders. 
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Get these leaders right. 
Two things in the evaluation and

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finding of these people that we 
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The first thing we see is as 
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training them and installing 
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is like Jesus personally, or say
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make sure he's like Jesus, not 
perfect, but like Jesus in his 

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home. 
That's verse six. 

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I'm not making this up. 
Look at verse 6, If anyone is 

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above reproach, the husband of 
one wife or to say that in a 

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different way in a culture where
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be an elder, he, this dude can't
be an elder if he has more than 

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one wife or if he's unfaithful 
to his wife sexually or 

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emotionally in any way. 
I don't care how talented he is,

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he fails that qualification. 
Keep reading. 

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And if his children are 
believers and not open to the 

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charge of debauchery or 
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And so he's got to be a good, 
not perfect, but a good dad who 

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is present with his kids and 
training them up in the way of 

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Jesus to the best of his 
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verse 6 is, hey, make sure that 
these guys are like Jesus 

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privately. 
And that's not that's not 

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enough. 
He keeps on, he keeps on going. 

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The second thing he says is make
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pastoral candidates, they must 
be like Jesus publicly, or to 

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say it in a different way, make 
sure he's like Jesus, not 

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perfect, but like Jesus in the 
world. 

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That's verses 7 and eight. 
He says for an overseer as God's

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steward must be above reproach. 
And then he lists 5 things a guy

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cannot be to qualify as an 
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He must not be arrogant or quick
tempered or a drunkard or 

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violent or greedy for gain. 
But it's not just about not 

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being the wrong thing, right? 
It's also about being the right 

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thing. 
And so after five things he must

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not be, he lists 6 things he 
must be. 

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Instead. 
He must be hospitable, a lover 

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of good, self controlled, 
upright, holy and discipline. 

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Look, we don't have time to go 
through all of those 

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qualifications individually. 
Frankly, they're all pretty 

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self-explanatory. 
So what I want to do is I want 

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to lace all of these 
qualifications together with a 

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critical through line. 
OK, I need your guys's eyes for 

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this one. 
This is so important when it 

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comes to qualification, when it 
comes to all of these 

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qualifications, to meet the 
qualifications to be a pastor, a

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man must be these things 
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Not perfectly, consistently not 
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Say it this way. 
To be qualified means that he's 

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known for these things. 
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Workshop really quickly with me.
I'm going to do a quick workshop

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with you because this is so 
unfathomable that everybody will

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know it's not true. 
OK, super hypothetical 

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situation. 
Suppose so, Jaron. 

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Where's Jaron at? 
Jaron. 

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So Jaron's one of our pastors, 
one of our elders, one of our 

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overseers. 
Suppose. 

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Suppose you're at Barn Town 
Brewery on a Friday night, 

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right? 
Cook. 

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What's your favorite restaurant 
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You got one in Des Moines? 
What? 

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OK, suppose you're at the sushi 
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Wow, dude, that's bougie, bro. 
Sushi. 

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You think you know a guy? 
So suppose you're at the sushi 

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house. 
And suppose Jaron is at the 

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sushi house too, right? 
So Jaron's with his family. 

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You see him across the room. 
You know Jaron's one of the 

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pastors here. 
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since Jaron is not like this, 
you see Jaron snap and he gets 

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visibly angry at his kids. 
And you see it. 

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And then you open up first, 
Titus verse 7, and it says an 

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elder cannot be quick tempered. 
Does this mean that Jaron is 

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disqualified as a pastor? 
Not necessarily. 

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Not necessarily. 
Now, you should probably have a 

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conversation with them. 
Hey, bro, I just, I noticed that

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this thing, I saw this. 
Can you tell me more about this?

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You should probably poke at his 
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it's tender and repentant. 
Maybe he had a bad night and he 

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went home and he repented to his
kids and he asked for 

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forgiveness, right? 
If this is if this is the case, 

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then it can still be that Jaron 
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tempered and still have some bad
nights. 

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The dude's not disqualified for 
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there's this growing mountain of
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wounded by his anger. 
If his kids are always walking 

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on egg shells because the temper
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them, is he disqualified? 
Yeah, he's disqualified. 

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Unfit to be an elder. 
What if he's really good at 

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public speaking? 
I don't care. 

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I don't care. 
Disqualified. 

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No matter how gosh darn talented
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The key phrase here, this is 
there's a single phrase that's 

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repeated twice in this section. 
Did you notice that? 

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It's critical. 
It was repeated before the 

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private qualifications and 
before the public 

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qualifications. 
The repeat, the repeated phrase 

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that's repeated twice is above 
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If anyone's above reproach, 
verse 7, an overseer must be 

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above reproach. 
So what's it mean to be above 

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reproach? 
The phrase above reproach. 

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What it is, is it is a summary 
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qualifications that Paul lays 
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It's summarizing there's like 15
or 15 ish qualifications in here

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for Titus. 
It's a summary phrase for all of

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those exact qualification. 
What it is not is a catch all 

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for all the things that you wish
were different about your 

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pastors. 
Does that make sense? 

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This, this is actually really 
important. 

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This is really important. 
So I, I actually want you to 

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follow me closely, tailgate my 
bumper as I drive through this 

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argument. 
OK, come in close here. 

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OK. 
The, the thing about the phrase 

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above reproach is that it's 
beautiful and it's also one of 

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the most weaponized phrases 
against pastors in the entire 

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New Testament. 
Some people, what they'll do is 

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they'll weaponize the phrase got
to be above reproach in order to

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leverage their desire to have 
all of their stylistic 

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preferences met. 
Have you ever seen this? 

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I've I you guys are awesome 
church to pastor. 

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So I don't feel like it's been 
leveraged against me. 

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But here I, I have a lot of 
relationships with other pastors

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and I have heard of pastors 
being criticized by church 

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people for not being above 
reproach for the craziest 

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things. 
OK, listen to this list of the 

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following things. 
I sat down. 

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I was like, what have I heard 
pastors accused for as above 

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reproach? 
I've heard pastors accused for 

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being not being above reproach 
because they preached in 

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T-shirts rather than collared 
shirts, or because they preached

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in collared shirts rather than 
suits, or because they preached 

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in suits rather than robes. 
You got to be above approach, 

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bro. 
Or for listening to secular 

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music, got to be above approach.
Or for responsibly enjoying 

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cigars, Or for responsibly 
enjoying alcohol, or for 

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watching rated R movies, or for 
watching PG13 movies, or for 

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making barely above a livable 
wage. 

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You got to be above approach, 
bro. 

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Or for being at a brewery on a 
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sushi house on a Friday night, 
got to be above approach. 

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And often times what Christians 
don't have is the maturity to 

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say, you know, that that's just 
a, a preference of mine or I 

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wish he was a little bit 
different in the way that he 

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dressed when he was behind the 
pulpit. 

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And because Christians don't 
have that maturity, what they'll

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do is they'll lurch onto the 
phrase be above reproach and try

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to give their preferences 
biblical weight. 

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And it's unhelpful. 
So let me tie. 

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Let me tie a boat at the same 
point in time. 

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The phrase above approach 
doesn't mean nothing, right? 

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So let me tie a bow on 
everything I've been saying here

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for the last couple minutes. 
If if you are a doodling in your

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Bible, circle the phrase above 
reproach in verses 6 or 7. 

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Underline it or just tattoo it 
on your forehead. 

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Don't tattoo it on your 
forehead. 

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You know what I'm saying? 
If the criticism points to a 

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matter of sin and the listed 
qualifications in the Bible, you

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need to take it seriously and 
your pastor may not be above 

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reproach and it would be helpful
for him to hear that from you. 

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If the criticism points to a 
matter of style or liberty, or 

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he's casual and you wish he was 
more formal in his personality, 

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or he's more formal and you wish
he was just more casual in his 

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personality. 
If you wish your pastors were 

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just a little bit different, 
that is not what Paul means by 

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being above reproach. 
And I'm making sense. 

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So here's this is so important. 
Did you notice how of all the 

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qualifications listed, only one 
is a skill? 

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And Titus actually didn't read 
it this morning, but as we look 

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at it next week, the only 
qualification in the Scriptures 

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for an elder that's a skill is 
that he's able to give 

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instruction and sound doctrine. 
He's got to be able to teach. 

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But the rest of them are not 
skills. 

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It's all character. 
It like Titus does not read the 

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qualifications for an elder, 
does not read like like an 

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interview for Aceo or an 
executive, right? 

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It's almost all what's he like 
in the home? 

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What's his heart like? 
What's his relationship with 

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alcohol like does? 
Is he self-control? 

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It's almost all character stuff.
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Because of Paul's definition of 
a pastor. 

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Verse 7-2 words For Paul, a 
pastor is God's steward. 

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That's verse 7 for an overseer 
as. 

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So an overseer is for an 
overseer as God's steward. 

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That's what a pastor is, God's 
steward. 

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Why only one competency and 15 
character qualifications answer?

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Because pastors are not stewards
of their own gifts. 

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They are stewards of God's 
gifts. 

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They're God's stewards. 
That means Paul is being very 

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clear. 
He's saying the church does not 

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belong to the pastors, belongs 
to Jesus. 

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It's not Cole's church. 
It, I mean, it is in the sense 

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that I belong to it, but it is 
not in the sense that it belongs

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to me. 
And so pastors are not stewards 

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of their own gifts. 
They're stewards of the gifts of

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Jesus to the people of Jesus. 
Here's when our elder team gets 

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together on a weekly basis. 
A lot of the times when we get 

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together, we have these five 
reminders that we read before we

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do any business. 
And one of the reminders that we

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say whenever we read these 
reminders, which we need to read

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more often now is, is is this? 
The church is not ours. 

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We say it out loud. 
The church is not ours, but 

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Jesus's. 
We are just Jesus's errand boys.

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That's what pastoral ministry 
is. 

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Jesus, what do you have for 
errands for us to run for your 

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church? 
This OK? 

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Yep, we'll do that. 
We'll care for that person. 

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We'll preach that. 
OK, got it. 

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That's it. 
Like here. 

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Here's another way of saying it.
The pastors, what pastors are is

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they're, I like this image. 
They're like groomsmen, right? 

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So if Jesus is the groom and the
church is the bride, a good 

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pastor functions like a a 
groomsman. 

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What's a groomsman do? 
If, if the if the bride and the 

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groom are doing like a 
traditional wedding and they 

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don't want to see each other 
before the service, what what a 

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groomsman does is he stewards 
the gifts of the groom to the 

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bride, right? 
They're trying to remain hidden 

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until the service. 
And so if, if, if the groom 

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wants to say something to the 
bride to be, what's he got to 

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do? 
He gives the message to the 

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groomsman and the groomsman. 
Hey, yeah, your boy wants to say

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this to you and he delivers the 
message, right? 

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Or like if, if, if the groom has
a love letter that he wrote for 

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his bride to be on the wedding 
day, he'll give that to the 

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groomsman and the groomsmen will
take that to the bride to be and

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say, Hey, your, your man wrote 
this for you. 

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And he'll deliver the message, 
right? 

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If, if he got, if he got her a 
nice necklace, he'll give it to 

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the groomsmen. 
The groomsmen will take the 

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necklace to the bride and say, 
Hey, he got you this right. 

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If he does that, is he a good 
groomsman? 

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Oh, you're, you're unsettled on 
that. 

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I think he's a good groomsman 
that that's at least part of the

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groomsman. 
He's just delivering the gifts 

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of the groom to the bride. 
That's a pretty good dude. 

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Suppose this though. 
Suppose the groomsman starts 

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delivering his own gifts to the 
bride. 

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Like got a necklace for the 
bride to be, and the groomsman 

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delivers his own necklace that 
he bought for the bride to the 

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bride. 
A little shady little creep, 

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Judy saying no, I'm going to cue
off of Judy. 

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No thumbs down. 
Suppose the groom's men, not the

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groom. 
Suppose the groom's men delivers

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to the bride to be a love letter
he wrote for her. 

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You feel that dude's a creep? 
Shady traitor. 

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What's what's happening? 
What's happening? 

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He's mistaken himself for the 
groom, where he's just the 

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groomsmen. 
What he's trying to do, it would

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appear to me, is entice the 
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Is this a good groomsmen? 
No, this is where everything 

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goes wrong with pastors is when 
they confuse themselves as the 

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groom rather than the groomsmen,
and they think the church is 

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theirs rather than Jesus. 
I mean, the church is about 

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delivering their gifts to the 
church rather than pointing 

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people to Jesus. 
And when a pastor does this, he 

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is starting to entice the church
into spiritual adultery with him

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rather than Jesus. 
Not a good pastor, right? 

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This is where everything it hits
hits the fan, right? 

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This is where you get all the 
stuff you read about in the 

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headlines right now, right? 
The moment when pastors become 

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the type of people who misuse 
the church's farms to buy a 

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bunch of their books to get it 
on the New York Times bestseller

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list. 
It happens when they stop seeing

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themselves as God. 
Stewart when When pastors, when 

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that root of anger and spiritual
abuse takes root in a pastor's 

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heart, it's usually because they
start mistaking themselves as 

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stewards of themselves and 
people don't understand how 

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great of a pastor I am and blah,
blah, blah, and they start to 

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explode on people and hurt 
people. 

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The key here it is for pastors 
to be qualified biblically and 

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for them to take on the rule of 
God steward and not stewards of 

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themselves. 
Here's the point, the church 

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does not belong to the pastor as
the church belongs to God. 

452
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,120
Roughly 15 qualifications in 
here for elders and Titus only. 

453
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:43,040
One's a skill. 
If you do the math, that means 

454
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,200
that roughly 5% of what makes a 
good pastor is skill or ability 

455
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,440
and competency. 
And believe me, if you can 

456
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,200
choose pastors who are competent
and high character, you want 

457
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,840
those. 
But being a pastor is 95% 

458
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,680
character and only 5% skill. 
Why? 

459
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,200
Here's an easy layup. 
Here's why. 

460
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Because they sparkly, 
impressive. 

461
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,360
A talented man who would make a 
great CEO of a company but who 

462
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:16,560
does not love people will 
destroy a church as a pastor. 

463
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,080
What if he's really good at 
speaking? 

464
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,480
This is what Jesus says. 
What if he's really popular? 

465
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,160
He doesn't meet these No, a 
super talented man who does not 

466
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,560
love people well should not be a
pastor, right? 

467
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,360
It's and the reason why is 
because it takes an immense 

468
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,680
amount of character and 
discipline to love people in the

469
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,400
church really well. 
Like I, I heard a quote. 

470
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,040
I heard a quote the other day, a
couple months ago that made me 

471
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,160
rethink my life. 
It was it was the only man in 

472
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,680
your life who wants you to do 
better than them is your father.

473
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,080
And I, I read that quote and I 
was like, is that true? 

474
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,240
Some of you maybe didn't grow up
with good dads and that's not 

475
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,440
true for you. 
Is the only man in your life 

476
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
that you that wants you to do 
better than them? 

477
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Your dad is that? 
Is that true? 

478
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,680
May there might be some truth to
that, right, Sigmund Freud, he 

479
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,040
famously made the observation 
that even in peer and friend 

480
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760
relationships, they were 
characterized by primarily quote

481
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,480
quiet but competitive hostility.
That's what Freud said. 

482
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,480
Unfortunately, I think Freud is 
mostly right. 

483
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Do you need water? 
What do you need? 

484
00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:00,880
Yeah, you can do that. 
Quiet but competitive hostility.

485
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Is that correct? 
I think it's mostly right. 

486
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Like friends are notorious for 
being envious of your growth and

487
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
improvement. 
Peers are notorious for not 

488
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,280
being able to celebrate whenever
you grow or get the promotion or

489
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,360
whatever it is. 
And so like, it's just really 

490
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,440
rare for you to have a person in
your life who wants you to do 

491
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,920
better than you currently 
already are, right. 

492
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,160
I was like, is that it made me? 
It made me think of my own dad. 

493
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Is that true of my dad? 
Did he want me to do better than

494
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,440
he himself did? 
And of course, that made me go 

495
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,200
down just an absolute rabbit 
hole. 

496
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,360
And you, those of you who are at
Frontier, you know where that 

497
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,920
led me? 
It led me to the wrestling room,

498
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,200
you know that. 
And yeah, I grew up wrestling, 

499
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880
obviously. 
And I, I grew up pretty 

500
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320
decorated and youth wrestling 
that nobody cares about. 

501
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,320
It doesn't matter, but you stay 
champ blah, blah, blah, blah 

502
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,120
blah, multiple time all 
American. 

503
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,480
I say that all because despite 
all of those accomplishments, 

504
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,280
you know who I couldn't beat in 
wrestling? 

505
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,520
My dad drove me not even like at
the peak, even at the peak of my

506
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,920
athletic abilities, like even 
when I was at high school and he

507
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,720
already had knee surgery, still 
couldn't beat him. 

508
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,440
And it drove me nuts. 
The guy was in his upper 40s and

509
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
he still was just absolutely 
making mashed potatoes out of 

510
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,040
me. 
I was like, what in the world? 

511
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Guy's not in shape, he wears a 
knee brace. 

512
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520
How was this a thing? 
So I couldn't take him down 

513
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,800
until my senior year of high 
school. 

514
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,360
Did it. 
I still remember it. 

515
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Is it a bit? 
It was late at night in the 

516
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280
basement of the middle school. 
I still remember the smell of 

517
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,800
the old mats, exhausted, covered
in sweat, my dad's knee brace, 

518
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,200
right? 
I still remember the feeling of 

519
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,440
taking it down and being like, 
who's the big dog now? 

520
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,680
I still remember that it felt 
awesome. 

521
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,640
I was like, heck yes, I did it. 
I did it. 

522
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,040
And then 18 years later, I read 
the quote, the only man in your 

523
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680
life who wants you to do better 
than himself is your dad. 

524
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:15,240
And I was like, hold on a 
second, does that mean 18 years 

525
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,680
ago, my one takedown on him, 
Dang it, he gave me that 

526
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680
takedown and it took it away 
from me. 

527
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,880
I was like, no, I don't even 
think I got that takedown 

528
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,960
fairly. 
I think it was an absolute gift.

529
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,040
The only man in your life who 
wants you to do better than them

530
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,440
is your dad. 
The reason why there's such a 

531
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,880
high calling on character and 
qualifications in the New 

532
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Testament is because the pastors
of your local church should be 

533
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:54,480
those men too. 
You should be able to 

534
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,200
confidently look at them and say
that guy cares about my Christ 

535
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
likeness maybe even more than I 
do. 

536
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Like that's how I know my heart 
is in a pastoral place. 

537
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:15,520
If I can say honestly that I 
want your joy in the Lord, maybe

538
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,400
even more than I want my own, 
that is a pastor right there. 

539
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,400
And it takes an immense amount 
of discipline and character to 

540
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600
get to that place. 
Like you can't see it right now,

541
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,400
right? 
But in the room right now, if it

542
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,400
were visible, I'm just, I'm just
being honest with you. 

543
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,760
If it were visible, you would 
see these opinions over here 

544
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480
about me. 
You would see that this person 

545
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640
has been criticizing me behind 
my back for the last six months,

546
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,360
and this person I know disagrees
with what I'm about to say. 

547
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120
And that person is Troy. 
Like if you can see all the 

548
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:58,800
stuff in the room, you would see
how easy it would be to let the 

549
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,160
pastor member relationship be 
characterized by relational 

550
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:09,280
bitterness and hostility. 
And the reason why a pastor has 

551
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,720
to have such high character and 
be so disciplined is because 

552
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,440
every Sunday and in every 
meeting with the individual and 

553
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,680
privately, when we lift you up 
in prayer and pray for you, we 

554
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,800
have to be able to see through 
this stuff in the room and not 

555
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,960
see you through the stuff in the
room, but see you in the blood 

556
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,520
of Christ and love you well 
still. 

557
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,840
And that's really hard. 
It means that right for for 

558
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Jesus. 
It didn't just mean letting his 

559
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
people take him down in the 
sport of wrestling, that's 

560
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040
trivial. 
That's that's the analogy. 

561
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,560
It meant letting his people 
crucify him and still loving 

562
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840
them. 
And that is what biblical 

563
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,680
leadership is. 
It's not being ACEO and making 

564
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,560
decisions. 
That's like 1/5 of it. 

565
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,920
Or it is suffering well and 
still through it all, loving the

566
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,120
church, showing up for the 
church, praying for the church, 

567
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,040
right the way that Alexander 
Strock said it in his massively 

568
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,600
beautiful book on biblical 
eldership is elders in the local

569
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,800
church do not wear the crowns, 
they wear the aprons. 

570
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,120
This is the self emptying 
leadership of the true lead 

571
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,440
pastor of every true church. 
Who's the truly pastor of every 

572
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,840
true church? 
Jesus, the self emptying, 

573
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,239
suffering leader. 
Jesus emptied himself for the 

574
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,960
sake of the church. 
His throne is the cross, His 

575
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,600
crown is made of thorns. 
His leadership is his loving 

576
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,159
suffering for his people. 
That's the gospel. 

577
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,920
Jesus Christ was crucified for 
you. 

578
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,199
That's his leadership. 
So that in Christ by faith 

579
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,200
alone, all of your sins are 
taken away, all of His 

580
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,280
righteousness that is given to 
you. 

581
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,320
The gospel's the good news that 
despite humanity's endless need 

582
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,320
to try to annihilate God, God 
willingly goes to annihilate 

583
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,160
himself on the cross and still 
shows up and says, I love you. 

584
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:20,200
And what Paul is saying in a 
different way is he's he's 

585
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,600
saying make sure these churches 
find leaders who reflect that 

586
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
gospel in their lives. 
That's what he's saying. 

587
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,920
That's why when Paul's writing 
Titus and there are these new 

588
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,320
struggling churches in Crete, 
the first thing Paul says is go 

589
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,320
find these leaders. 
Go find, build and install 

590
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,240
elders. 
Healthy elders, healthy church, 

591
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,400
unhealthy elders, unhealthy 
church. 

592
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Even if the church is deeply 
unhealthy and emotionally 

593
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,320
immature and relational 
divisive, often times when you 

594
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,080
get the right leaders in the 
right place, the whole 

595
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,640
organization slowly grows up 
into maturity or the immature 

596
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,000
people end up leaving because 
they find the maturity 

597
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,400
offensive. 
That's why so many leadership 

598
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,040
gurus make the note, and I think
they're right, that an 

599
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,120
organization's maturity will 
rarely exceed the leaders 

600
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,680
maturity. 
And that's why getting the right

601
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,680
elders is such a big deal to 
Titus in the Book of Titus. 

602
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,560
And that's why finding the right
elders is such a big deal at 

603
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Frontier. 
But let me end with something 

604
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,200
practical. 95% of you won't 
become pastors, and that's 

605
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,360
great, right? 
You don't want like 50% of your 

606
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,160
church to be pastors. 
Too many cooks in the kitchen, 

607
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,560
as I say. 
So 95% of you aren't going to 

608
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,520
become pastors, and that's 
great. 

609
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,280
So what do you, what's the 
point? 

610
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,240
What do you want? 
What do you do with this text? 

611
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:00,200
What do you do with this 
message? 

612
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,800
Let me be really practical. 
I think your job is just as hard

613
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,280
as the job of the elders. 
So let me tell it to you via 

614
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,760
narrative. 
Eugene Patter, Eugene Peterson, 

615
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,400
he's one of my favorite, was one
of my favorite writers on the 

616
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640
pastoral life. 
He wrote this beautiful 

617
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:20,640
biography called a Pastor. 
And in it he tells us haunting 

618
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,320
story about when he was going 
through seminary. 

619
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,600
And as he was going through 
seminary and was so excited to 

620
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,600
be a pastor, he also had this 
atheist buddy who he was really 

621
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,880
good buddies with. 
And so he's got this atheist 

622
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,760
buddy. 
And his atheist buddy was like, 

623
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Eugene, don't do it, bro. 
It's fine if you want to be a 

624
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,360
Christian and, you know, pretend
to enjoy this fairy God in the 

625
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,640
sky, but don't become a pastor, 
bro. 

626
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,400
And Eugene was like, I'm going 
to do it. 

627
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,280
He's like, no, don't do it. 
He's like, I'm going to do it. 

628
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,080
And so the atheist friend was 
like, OK, well, is it OK? 

629
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,760
He just happened to be a really 
talented painter too. 

630
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,040
And so his atheist buddy said, 
is it OK if you come for an hour

631
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,640
every week and my studio sit on 
a stool and I'm going to paint a

632
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
portrait of, of you? 
And Eugene was like, sure, 

633
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,000
whatever helps for you to grow 
as an artist. 

634
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,040
So Eugene showed up in his in 
his studio for a month, sat down

635
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,040
on a stool and allowed the guy 
to paint him on a on a weekly 

636
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,760
basis. 
And he he kept the painting 

637
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,000
hidden from Peterson the entire 
time. 

638
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,720
Yeah, you can go get some. 
But on, I think on Week 3, the 

639
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:34,760
painter's wife came in and she 
looked at the portrait of 

640
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Eugene, and she went, why you're
the worst. 

641
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,280
And Eugene was like, what? 
What was that? 

642
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,160
And the next week, when the 
painter finished the painting, 

643
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Peterson saw why his painting 
buddy took canvas when he was 

644
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,040
finished with it. 
And he turned it around and he 

645
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,000
showed Peterson the painting. 
And what he had done is he had 

646
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,080
painted a self-portrait of 
Eugene Peterson as a zombie with

647
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,960
hollowed out eyes, a dead 
expression, pale white, 

648
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,800
lifeless. 
And he said to Eugene Peterson, 

649
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160
this is my final warning for 
you. 

650
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Don't become a pastor or this is
what will happen to you. 

651
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,640
The church will suck out your 
soul and it will kill you. 

652
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:40,440
And you know what Peterson did? 
He took the portrait and he hung

653
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,240
it up in his private closet and 
his pastor's office and looked 

654
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,280
on it at a weekly basis to 
remind himself to stay connected

655
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,000
to Jesus and not let his church 
kill him. 

656
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:56,960
So what does this mean for you? 
The Bible's clear about your 

657
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,120
role in the relationship with 
your pastor. 

658
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,000
Here's the way that Hebrews 13 
says it. 

659
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,400
Obey your leaders and submit to 
them, for they are keeping watch

660
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,320
over your souls as those who 
will have to give an account. 

661
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,800
Let them do this with joy and 
not with groaning, for that 

662
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,600
would be of no advantage to you.
Here's what I'm not saying. 

663
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560
I'm not saying that you've got 
to give your pastors a special 

664
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,440
parking spot in the parking lot.
That was the first thing we 

665
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,040
ripped out when we bought this 
building. 

666
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,680
I'm not saying that on Pastors 
Appreciation Month you've got to

667
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,640
write a sappy emotional post 
about how important your pastor 

668
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,600
is to you on Facebook, but I'm 
not. 

669
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,520
I'm not saying you have to do 
any of that silly stuff. 

670
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,440
I am certainly not saying that 
you can never rebuke or correct 

671
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,040
them. 
They need your rebuke and your 

672
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,240
correction. 
But at the very least, the Bible

673
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:50,960
is clear that your job is to be 
a joy to pastor. 

674
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,240
Or to use the language of Eugene
Peterson's friend, don't kill 

675
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your pastors via gossip, via 
slander, via spirit. 

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Just don't kill them. 
And the cool thing about me 

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preaching the sermon is I'm not 
doing it reactively. 

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You guys are like the best 
church ever to pastor. 

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You guys are like, really 
encouraging. 

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And I'm not like, I'm just 
saying like, do more of this. 

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I hang out with other pastors 
sometimes. 

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And I'm like, I wish you guys 
could pastor my church. 

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You guys are way too good and 
it's fun to pastor you. 

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So thanks for being a joy to 
pastor Heavenly Father. 

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I pray that you would continue 
to build into and invest in the 

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member elder dynamic. 
It's probably I was praying 

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about this this week. 
It's probably the third most 

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important relational dynamic in 
the church. 

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The the most important 
relational dynamic is the people

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to God relational dynamic. 
That's the most important thing.

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The second most important 
relational dynamic is probably 

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the pastor and pastor dynamic. 
When a pastoral team collapses, 

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often times the church follows. 
But the third most important 

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relational dynamic is the pastor
and member dynamic. 

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Would you protect that Lord? 
Would your Holy Spirit hover 

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over our pastors and our members
and help us endure seasons where

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we don't like each other or we 
would prefer that we were 

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different and still hold 
together in the bond of love 

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that the Gospel of Jesus has 
purchased for us? 

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May May our elders take their 
character seriously and may our 

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members celebrate their selfless
leadership, especially the lay 

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elders who give their time and 
energy and don't sing a see a 

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single dollar in response to 
that. 

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May we protect that and just 
remind us that the church does 

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not belong to the pastors. 
Church belongs to Jesus. 

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So it's in his precious name 
that all God's people prayed. 

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Amen. 
Let's stand and let's worship.

