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If you got a Bible, go and get 
that open to the book of Job in 

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the Old Testament, specifically 
Job chapter 3. 

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As you're turning there, a 
couple notes are sermon series 

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for Advent. 
We're titling it stubborn 

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gladness. 
So Advent is the celebration of 

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the light coming into the 
darkness, right? 

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This symbolic analogy for God 
himself coming in the flesh of 

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Jesus into our broken world. 
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we've been exploring the 
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hope, peace, joy, next week, 
love. 

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But we've been exploring them in
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And so hope in light of 
hopelessness, peace in light of 

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anxiety, and joy in light of 
depression. 

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That's why you're turning to Job
Chapter 3 this morning. 

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So it is about joy this morning.
Well, but don't get too excited 

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because I think my goal is to 
preach the saddest sermon on joy

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possible because I'm a monster. 
So let me pray and then we'll 

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jump into that. 
Heavenly Father, I, I do, I do 

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try, I, I honestly do try to be 
mindful because I love the, I 

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love the Advent season. 
I love the, I love the Christmas

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season. 
I, I love everything about it. 

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And so I, Lord, I do try to be 
mindful that, as I said to our 

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volunteers this morning, not 
everybody is Clark Griswold 

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during the season. 
But for some people, the bright 

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sparkling lights and the the 
presents under the Christmas 

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tree and the ornaments on the 
tree, for some people that 

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represents loss, loss of hope, 
loss of the people, a nostalgic 

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depression of Christmas 
expectations that went on that I

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don't, I don't know, Lord, 
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I just know people can tend to 
experience the the Christmas 

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Blues in this season. 
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this is, this is a hope, Lord, 
that can it can only be 

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fulfilled if you show up in a 
profound and miraculous way this

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morning. 
My, my hope is that for those 

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who experience deep and 
unrelenting sorrow or sadness or

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even in even depression during 
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would show up this morning and 
help them taste joy in the midst

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of it. 
Maybe not even joy in spite of 

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it, but joy in the midst of that
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I'm always profoundly amazed 
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and I read the Apostle Paul 
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yet always rejoicing. 
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yet always rejoicing as in joy 
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And so there has to be in the 
Spirit this possibility that joy

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and sorrow can coexist in the 
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in a broken world and in the 
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So yeah, do that. 
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all God's people prayed, Amen. 
We 3 Joy. 

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One of the biggest challenges of
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potentially the biggest 
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is when our experiences don't 
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You know what I mean? 
Like when our felt experiences 

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don't line up with God's 
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I know God promises me this. 
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I feel this. 
What do you do when your felt 

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experiences don't line up with 
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And I I didn't think there's any
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topic than with God's promise of
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of depression, sorrow, and 
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So take the Old Testament for 
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God in the Old Testament, he 
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He distinguishes Israel from all
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specifically by declaring them a
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That's not coal. 
That's the Bible. 

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This is Deuteronomy chapter 33. 
I just want you to see this 

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Deuteronomy chapter 33. 
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Israel, who is like you? 
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nations. 
He's saying When I compare the 

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people of God in Israel to all 
the other nations, no one's like

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you. 
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Happy are you, O Israel, who is 
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Lord. 
And so Israel is God's people is

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to be distinct and different 
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particularly by their happiness 
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salvation. 
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course, is what do you do when 
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Like if you know your Bible, 
like what do you do? 

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For instance, if you're Job, do 
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Do you act? 
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What do you do? 
And if you're able, let's go 

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ahead and stand together for the
reading of God's Word and see 

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what he does. 
All of chapter 3. 

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I won't have time to expose it 
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That would take a long time, but
let's blast through this 

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Job chapter 3 after this, I'll 

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explain what happened leading up
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After this, Job opened his mouth
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birth. 
And Job said, this is ugly 

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stuff. 
Let the day perish on which I 

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was born, and the night that 
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Let that day be darkness. 
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light shine upon it. 
Let gloom and deep darkness 

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claim it. 
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Let the blackness of the day 
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That night where I was born, let
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Let it not rejoice among the 
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Let it not come into the number 
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Yeesh. 
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barren, let no joyful cry enter 
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Let those who curse them, who 
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rouse up leviathan chaos. 
Let the stars of its dawn be 

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dark. 
Let it hope for light, but have 

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none nor see the eyelids of the 
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the doors of my mother's womb, 
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It gets worse. 
Why did I not die at birth, come

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out from the womb and expire? 
Why did the knees of my mother 

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receive me, or why the breast 
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Then I would have lain down and 
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I would have slept. 
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with kings and counselors of the
earth who rebuilt ruins for 

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themselves, or with Princess who
had gold, who filled their 

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houses with silver. 
Why was I not as a hidden 

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stillborn child, as infants who 
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There the wicked cease from 
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are at rest. 
There the prisoners are at ease 

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together. 
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taskmaster, the small and the 
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There, and the slave is free 
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So why is light given to him who
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bitter and soul who long for 
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But it comes not, and dig for it
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who rejoice exceedingly, and are
glad when they find the grave in

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light. 
Why is light given to a man 

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whose way is hidden, whom God 
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For my sign comes instead of my 
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poured out like the water. 
For the thing that I fear comes 

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upon me, and what I dread 
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I am not at ease, nor am I 
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I have no rest. 
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Job. 
You know that old classic Advent

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text? 
If you're able, you can be 

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seated Week 1 of Advent. 
The first candle. 

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Tell yourself this. 
Tell your children this is for 

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hope, the hope of Jesus. 
Week 2 of Advent is for peace, 

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the peace of Jesus and week 3 of
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Tell yourself this, this week as
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If you have kids, tell them it's
for joy. 

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But you read a text like this 
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question is where? 
Where is that? 

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Where's the joy? 
Where's the joy? 

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God promises the distinguishes 
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happiness in him. 
Job is a part of the people of 

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God. 
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That means he is by virtue of 
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He is a recipient of that 
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But where's the joy? 
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know what happened in chapters 1
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So here's what comes before Job 
Chapter 3. 

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Essentially, Job loses 
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You should read chapters 1 and 2
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It's essentially progressive 
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Every time you think that's got 
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happen, another thing that's bad
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It starts with Job losing his 
oxen and his servants are struck

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dead. 
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He loses his children. 
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Even his wife curses him. 
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And the worst part is, if you 
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befalling Job, all these, these 
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happening to Job. 
It's all taking place based on a

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cosmic bet between God and Satan
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everything from Job, Job won't 
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That's the big question in in 
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do it? 
Is is Job going to raise his 

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first to the heavens and curse 
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There's a lot of cursing in this
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A lot. 
It's uncomfortable to read, 

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parents. 
I bet if somebody made a song 

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out of Job 3 and you heard it on
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I don't want my kids to hear 
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You would turn it off. 
So much cursing. 

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The question is, does Job curse 
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If you have a Bible open, look 
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I'm not going to have this on 
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Let me just read it out loud. 
Job curse is the day where he 

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was born. 
He says let the day perish on 

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which I was born in the night 
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Let that day be darkness like 
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He's like this close to cursing 
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Does he do it? 
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above not seek it, nor light 
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Let gloom and deep darkness 
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Let clouds dwell upon it. 
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terrify it. 
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This is poetic language. 
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doing is he's cursing the day of
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Notice this. 
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This is an important textual 
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about God. 
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He's just cursing out loud. 
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So if you look at all the angry 
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angry Psalms, one thing you 
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they always address God. 
They, they pray to God. 

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You read a Psalm and it's like, 
how long, O Lord, until you do 

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this or God, what are you doing 
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How long until this happens? 
They're addressing God. 

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That's not what's happening with
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He mentions God, but he does not
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That's why some theologians 
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into the void, which would make 
an awesome name for a metal 

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album. 
Praying into the void. 

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This is not Job praying to God, 
this is Job kicking and punching

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in his bed sheets, screaming 
into his pillow. 

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Job is the Old Testament figure 
who experiences the felt, not 

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the objective, the felt absence 
of God more than any other Old 

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Testament figure. 
You could even say that Job. 

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Many people do say that Job is 
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Old Testament in these chapters.
But does he do it? 

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He curses. 
But does he curse God? 

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Not yet. 
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Job continues by saying why did 
I not die at birth, come out 

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from the womb and expire? 
Why did the knees receive me? 

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Why the breast that I should 
nurse for? 

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Then I would have lain down and 
been quiet. 

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I would have slept, he's saying.
It would have been better to 

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just be dead with kings and 
Queens than to be alive, he 

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says. 
Then I would have been at rest 

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with kings and councillors of 
the earth who built ruins for 

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themselves or with Princess who 
had gold, who filled their 

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houses with silver. 
What a terrible thing to say. 

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Like imagine you're a small 
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and somebody says that, right? 
You would be like, you ever do 

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that? 
Like somebody asks who you how 

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you are and you're like, I'm 
good. 

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And they're like, no, how are 
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And you're like, OK. 
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you're like, OK, I feel worse 
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how I'm doing, I still feel that
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It's bad. 
It's a bad thing to say. 

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God says life is good, existence
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It was God's idea. 
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am I right? 
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Christians struggle with this. 
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sorrow or depression, it freaks 
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the fact that God actually 
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sorrow. 
That was God's idea, and the 

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capacity for sorrow is 
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perfect and holy One, then it is
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that if we are unable to 
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life, then we actually fail to 
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world. 
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My read on that is not oh, Job's
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If Job lost all of that and he 
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that the opposite of joy is not 
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Like I'm going to try to put 
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appropriate amount, appropriate 
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the amount of loss, you 
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bottom of it. 
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that if our capacity for sadness
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consolation for him, then to try
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would mean that you're not 
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his health, his financial thing,
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his heart. 
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furious tornado of depression, 
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things. 
Christians say scary things. 

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Job is saying some scary things.
He's cursing life itself. 

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Yikes. 
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Did he curse God? 
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no, close, but no. 
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light after going after his own 
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He says why is light given to 
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to the bitter and soul? 
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a man whose way is hidden, whom 
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This is very close to cursing 
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When God creates light in 
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Genesis saying, or what Job is 
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God says it's good. 
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What a brutally atrocious thing 
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But did he curse God? 
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And this, this is the key 
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I think this is the central 
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Job is consumed by depression, a
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fact, And Job raises a fist at 
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curses everything besides God. 
So I'm going to say something 

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that is, I think it might, I'm 
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think might make you nervous. 
I'm reading a book right now by 

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a Christian who experiences 
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bipolar and a lot of other 
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And he, he says his name is John
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it's worth your consideration. 
I wrote it down right when I 

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read it. 
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And I'm still very much mentally
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not fixed that. 
How he goes on to say this, this

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is so critical. 
He says, look, the saddest thing

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in the world isn't to have bad 
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Has anybody ever told you that 
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is not to have bad thoughts or 
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He says The saddest thing in the

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world is to believe things that 
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The saddest thing in the world 
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depression. 
You need to hear me say that the

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saddest thing in the world is to
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depression tells you. 
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You can be in the midst of deep 
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lies that your depression is 
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feet planted in the promises of 
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something amazing happens in 
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that Job is simultaneously the 
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Deuteronomy 33. 
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identity. 
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one of Israel, the blessed one 
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sorrows. 
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once. 
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Biblically, joy is not the 
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It can't be, the New Testament 
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rejoicing. 
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suffering. 
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to count our suffering as all 
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So it can't be that. 
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positivity, if joy is not the 
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of suffering, then what is it? 
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is joy is a stubborn refusal to 
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we experience it, and instead a 
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God alone. 
I'm telling this is going to be 

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a hard pill to swallow. 
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I think, I think that it is 
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presence of God than to be 
chipper outside of the presence 

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of God. 
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The person with deep sadness and
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Super happy clappy person who 
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depressed person in Christ has 
more joy. 

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It's wild. 
It's wild. 

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This is why we're using the 
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this series. 
I'm actually ripping off from a 

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Jack Gilbert poem where he says 
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Gilbert says. 
The first time I read this a 

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couple of years, I underlined it
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like, that's got to go on a 
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is baby Gilbert. 
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He says we must have the 
stubbornness. 

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I like that Our mission 
statement is fight for joy. 

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It's not act happy or act 
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It's a stubborn fight, he says. 
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stubbornness to accept our 
gladness even in the ruthless 

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furnace of the world. 
Come on, does that hit dude? 

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We must have the stubbornness to
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ruthless furnace of this world. 
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the sermon, right? 
This is where, this is where, 

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this is the moment where this 
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becomes an Advent story. 
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Advent story is that God is not 
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sadness and sorrow as he does in
Job chapter 3. 

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God is the God who descends into
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Because one of the things you 
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Jesus comes, there is one who 
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Job better than Job. 
The first advent of Jesus is the

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advent of a truer and better 
Job. 

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Jesus experiences everything 
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Read the gospels in light of the
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Jesus experiences everything 
that Job experiences, but to the

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10th degree, right? 
Like Job, Jesus loses his 

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friends. 
Like Job, Jesus loses everything

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that belongs to him, which is 
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oxen like Job, but all of 
creation turns against Jesus 

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like Job, his bride, his wife. 
The church curses him on the 

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cross. 
It's exactly parallel. 

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And ultimately, like Job, it's 
Jesus who screams into the void 

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on the cross. 
Jesus, the advent of God 

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himself. 
Jesus experiences a felt absence

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of God. 
My God, my God, why have you 

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forsaken me? 
It's extraordinary. 

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Job is not the most God forsaken
man in the Bible. 

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Jesus is the most God forsaken 
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This is extraordinary fullness 
of divinity made to feel the 

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absence of divinity, right? 
The in the modern world we have 

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a word for that kind of 
experience. 

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When Jesus is in Gethsemane and 
he says my soul is sorrowful to 

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the point of death. 
That's poetic language for what 

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in the modern world we call 
depression. 

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Like you have to reckon with 
this, this, just think about 

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this. 
Jesus experienced a chemical 

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imbalance in his brain. 
If you could take an MRI of what

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was going on in Jesus brain in 
Gethsemane, you would see a 

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chemical imbalance and he's 
perfect for God himself in the 

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flesh. 
God experienced a chemical 

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imbalance in his brain. 
What I mean, what God does that?

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Only Jesus, Amen. 
Only Jesus, only the Christian 

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God, only Jesus can catch one of
your tears in his hands and say,

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I know what that feels like. 
I cried that exact same tear. 

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And this is so important to know
because it helps you recognize 

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something so important, which is
so simple, which is this God's 

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not afraid of your depression. 
Your friends, even some of your 

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Christian friends. 
When you go into deep seasons of

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darkness and you say things like
Job three, sometimes your 

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Christian friends will go, well,
God's got a plan for your life, 

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so you just act happy. 
Even our Christian friends won't

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do that sometimes. 
Does God No. 

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And you're God does not do this 
when you're in depression, when 

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you're in deep seasons of 
darkness and sorrow, God does 

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this. 
He knows it's felt it not afraid

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of your depression, not afraid 
of your sorrow. 

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He knows what it feels like. 
And so when it's so life giving,

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because when I experience 
sadness and sorrow, do you feel 

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this way ever? 
I don't know if I've ever been 

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through a season that I would 
call depression. 

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And so I don't. 
I have, I don't think I've 

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tasted that if you've 
experienced that or in that. 

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But I've been in seasons of 
sadness and sorrow. 

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And when I'm in those seasons, 
what I don't want people to do 

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is cheer me up. 
I don't. 

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What I want people to do in 
those seasons is I want people 

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to dignify my sorrow, to grant 
it dignity and worth and value. 

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And for Jesus to experience 
sorrow means that he has made 

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sorrow holy. 
By tasting sadness in the flesh,

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Jesus has transfigured our 
sorrow and he has infused our 

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sorrow with a type of, and I 
mean this when I say it, 

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reverence. 
Do you find that beautiful? 

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Like, I don't even want, I don't
even want a Jesus who's not the 

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Man of Sorrows. 
I don't want a Jesus who looks 

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at my sadness. 
And it's like, what's that like?

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It's profound. 
Jesus, God in the flesh, the man

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of sorrows. 
Job was just a man who felt 

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sorrow. 
Jesus was the Man of sorrows. 

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I mean, Job just cursed the day 
of his birth. 

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Jesus was cursed from the day of
his birth. 

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There's a difference. 
Job just cursed his birthday. 

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Jesus was cursed from his 
birthday. 

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Galatians chapter 313. 
Argue with the wall if you don't

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like that. 
Christ redeemed us from the 

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curse of the law by becoming a 
curse for us. 

456
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,120
He took on the curse that we 
deserved. 

457
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640
That's what makes him the Man of
Sorrows. 

458
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800
And so every year when we 
celebrate Advent, we are 

459
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
celebrating the advent of the 
Man of Sorrows. 

460
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240
He is the Man of Sorrows and the
happy one of Israel. 

461
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,320
And there will be a second 
Advent, right? 

462
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,760
He's coming back, Amen. 
And when he comes back in the 

463
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,080
second Advent, that gap is going
to be gone. 

464
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,720
The one we talked about, that 
gap between your felt 

465
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,120
experiences and the promises of 
God during the second advent of 

466
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,000
Jesus, it it'll be gone. 
There will no longer be any gap 

467
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280
between his promises and our 
felt experiences. 

468
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,320
That gap will be thrown into the
lake of fire and our experiences

469
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,560
will finally be brought fully 
into complete union with his 

470
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,720
promises. 
No gap, not even a millisecond 

471
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,960
between God promises this and 
then we experience it there. 

472
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:08,160
It'll just be 1. 
You won't have to wait for the 

473
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,600
needle to drop the needle to 
drop. 

474
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:20,520
I I don't struggle with a lot of
devices of the world, but I do 

475
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,000
have addictions. 
For instance, my addiction 

476
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,720
currently is in the middle of 
the day. 

477
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,840
Yesterday I ran out of my house 
in order to drive over to the Hy

478
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Vee Wine and Spirits where 
Joseph works because I needed to

479
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,080
have some more. 
And what I needed to have more 

480
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,160
of was they had a record pop up 
store and I'm addicted to 

481
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,640
records. 
And so I got there and you know 

482
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,320
what, like a like a typical, I 
just like it all. 

483
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,240
I like the the shape of the 
records. 

484
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,040
I like the heaviness of it. 
I like the artwork, design, all 

485
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880
of it. 
And like a typical addict, I'm 

486
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,520
going to blame somebody else. 
It's not my fault. 

487
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,760
It's Andrew Johnson's fault he's
not here, right? 

488
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,480
Good. 
I'm going to blame Andrew. 

489
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,520
So the reason why I'm so 
addicted to records right now is

490
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,480
he you should go check it out. 
In my office after church, he 

491
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,280
brought in this amazing record 
player that he had that he's 

492
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,880
letting me borrow and these 
massive speakers. 

493
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,240
And so I listened to like one of
my favorite albums on it. 

494
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
And I was like, I have to hear 
every one of my favorite records

495
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,640
on this. 
And so it was like the week 

496
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,280
after Andrew brought his new 
fancy record player and put it 

497
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,320
in my office. 
And I there one of my favorite 

498
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,080
records this year was written by
a punk band called Military Gun,

499
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,240
not a Christian band. 
I'm not recommending it to you 

500
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560
know that I know as a pastor, 
I'm only allowed to listen to 

501
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Hillsong on my spare time. 
Which if you, which if you 

502
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,720
believe that, do not look at my 
Spotify rapped for the year. 

503
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320
But there's this band called 
Military Gun and they're like 

504
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200
profoundly this punk band, like 
you listen to it and they got 

505
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,680
this punk sound, but they also 
infuse it with this 

506
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,880
extraordinary sound of joy. 
And so I was like, man, I got to

507
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,280
hear that. 
I was kind of feeling down that 

508
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,760
week. 
I was like, I got to put on this

509
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,000
this record. 
And so I turned it on, turn the 

510
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,760
speaker on, press play. 
It started spinning and I 

511
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,120
couldn't hear it. 
So I checked again. 

512
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:22,400
The record player was on, the 
speakers were on, the record was

513
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,200
spinning. 
I couldn't hear the music. 

514
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,320
You know what happened? 
Andrew has a really fancy record

515
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,080
player, mine at home. 
You just press a button when you

516
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,200
press start and the needle 
naturally lifts up and goes 

517
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,720
right down on the record where 
it's supposed to. 

518
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,080
That's not the way Andrew's 
works. 

519
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,640
It's a fancy one. 
You've got to manually lift up 

520
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,920
the needle and then put it to 
the right spot and drop it. 

521
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,960
I didn't know that. 
And so the record player was on,

522
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,080
the speakers were on, the record
was spinning. 

523
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,200
I couldn't hear it. 
Why? 

524
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,200
Because the needle hadn't 
dropped. 

525
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,280
And this is where records get 
really interesting. 

526
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,960
OK, This is, I think that this 
is fascinating when when they 

527
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960
make a record, what they do is 
they etch the music. 

528
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,000
They etch the songs into little 
tiny grooves, and then they they

529
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,400
press it into plastic and they 
press those songs into the 

530
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,280
plastic until the record 
eventually goes perfectly flat. 

531
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,679
And what that means is that the 
music is objectively there when 

532
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,199
it's spinning, because it's 
etched into the record, it's 

533
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,199
objectively there. 
But if the needle isn't dropped,

534
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,239
can you hear the music? 
No, that doesn't mean the 

535
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,360
music's not there. 
It is. 

536
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,679
You just have seasons where you 
can't hear it. 

537
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,880
And what record players teach us
is that there can be a profound 

538
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,400
gap between an objective 
reality, like a song etched into

539
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,760
the very record itself, and our 
subjective experience of hearing

540
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,240
that song. 
And that's helpful to know 

541
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,320
because that's most of the 
Christian life. 

542
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,920
You are declared. 
If you're a believer in Jesus, 

543
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,480
you are declared sinless 
objectively, even though 

544
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,760
subjectively you still struggle 
with sin. 

545
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080
You've been covered in the 
righteousness of God. 

546
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,720
Even though sometimes you 
practice unrighteousness. 

547
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,560
Your sins are forgiven. 
You're covered in Jesus right 

548
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,000
righteousness. 
And in your union with God 

549
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,160
through the work of the Spirit, 
a joyful song has objectively 

550
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,360
been pressed into your heart and
grooves. 

551
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,160
And sometimes as a Christian, 
the speakers are on, you know, 

552
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,560
your Bible, the record players 
on, you go to church and you 

553
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,720
worship with people. 
The record is spinning like 

554
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,240
you're practicing the spiritual 
disciplines and you're going 

555
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,120
through the motions. 
You're doing all of that and you

556
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,240
can't hear the music. 
You can't feel the joy. 

557
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,240
And the big question is, what do
you do in those seasons? 

558
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,720
And the biblical answer to that,
the answer of Advent, is simple.

559
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,560
What do you do? 
You keep spinning the record and

560
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,800
you wait for God to drop the 
needle. 

561
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,600
That's what you do. 
You keep spinning the record. 

562
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Read your Bible. 
You keep spinning the record. 

563
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,840
Keep going to church, You keep 
spinning the record. 

564
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Fast, repent of sin, pray, get 
help, encourage other people, 

565
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,280
and you wait for God to drop the
needle. 

566
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,720
You practice what theologians 
call holy discontentment. 

567
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,320
You ever heard that holy 
discontentment? 

568
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,320
It's it's this term where 
whenever God promises us 

569
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,600
something that we don't 
experience, it's our job to 

570
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,800
practice holy discontentment. 
Do not be cool with that gap. 

571
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,760
It's like if you go through a 
season of, of, of joylessness of

572
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,080
sadness and sorrow, that's OK, 
but be discontent in a holy way 

573
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:09,360
with it, right? 
Our, our job is to say, God, you

574
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,560
promised me joy. 
I don't feel it. 

575
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Would you give it to me? 
And then if you don't experience

576
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,720
it, you know what you should do?
Keep asking. 

577
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,000
Keep spinning the record. 
Keep reading your Bible, say 

578
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,840
God, I still won't experience 
it. 

579
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,440
I don't feel the joy. 
You promised me joy. 

580
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Would you do it? 
And if you don't, you know what 

581
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040
you do. 
You keep asking, you keep 

582
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,680
spinning the record. 
You keep praying, you keep 

583
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,960
worshipping, you keep reading 
your Bible, you fast, you get 

584
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,520
help. 
You talk to other Christians, 

585
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840
you wait. 
You keep spinning the record. 

586
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,720
You fast. 
And you say, God, I want the joy

587
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,760
of salvation. 
I don't feel it. 

588
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,040
Would you give it to me? 
And if you still don't get it, 

589
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,960
you keep doing that on a daily 
basis, even if you have to do it

590
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,760
every day until you die. 
You keep spinning the record. 

591
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,960
Amen. 
Keep spinning it. 

592
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,840
You keep asking. 
You don't quit. 

593
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,080
You don't just quit. 
You don't just give up and curse

594
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,920
God and be done with it. 
No, you keep asking, you keep 

595
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,160
fighting and you keep banging on
the door and you keep saying, 

596
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,360
God, I don't feel it. 
Would you help me experience it?

597
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,400
You keep stubbornly asking, God,
where's the joy? 

598
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Where is it? 
Heavenly Father, would you help 

599
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,880
us practice that holy 
discontentment? 

600
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:51,760
Stir in US just the spirit given
desire to continue to ask and 

601
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,440
ask and ask and ask and fight 
and fight and fight and fight. 

602
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,560
And if you don't give that to us
in this lifetime, help us wait 

603
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:07,720
for it because it is coming. 
Maybe some of us will experience

604
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,680
the lifting of the sadness and 
sorrow right now. 

605
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Pray for that if you haven't. 
Some of us will experience the 

606
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,000
lifting of that sorrow next 
week. 

607
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,360
Some of us will experience it 
next year. 

608
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,640
But all of us will experience it
in our next lifetime. 

609
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,560
And so, Lord, stir in us a 
desire to taste the joy 

610
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,200
subjectively that is objectively
in us because of the person of 

611
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,920
Jesus. 
So it's in his precious name 

612
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,400
that all God's people prayed. 
Amen.

