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Here's Ed Taylor with today's 
episode of Lead to Serve, a 

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leadership podcast. 
You know our goal for the. 

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Podcast is to help you. 
Grow in your servant leadership.

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So that you will glorify. 
God and all that you do. 

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Isn't that your heart? 
That's my heart. 

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I want to glorify God and all 
that I do. 

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And the the tag you know that we
we think of as the better 

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serving you are, the better 
leader you'll become, and the 

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better leader you'll become will
broaden the scope of opportunity

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for you to serve. 
And that's what we want, serving

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and leading. 
Jesus said that he didn't come 

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to be. 
Served but to serve. 

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And give his life a ransom for 
many. 

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Jesus said that the way up is. 
Actually down. 

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And if you want to be the 
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we need to be the servant of 
all. 

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That's the podcast, and we're 
just talking out loud for many 

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years. 
I did it by myself, which 

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occasionally I'll do an episode 
by myself now, but we got some 

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feedback. 
After I started. 

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Adding some guests that you 
really like the discussion part 

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of, you know talking through 
things. 

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So we have for this season 
again, Pastor Bob Clay Camp 

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joining me. 
Welcome again, Bob. 

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Good. 
I'm glad to be here. 

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Absolutely. 
We are talking about ministry 

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and life together and last week 
we talked about my pastor going 

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home to be with the Lord and and
just the simple truth I wanted 

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to lay out for you, I mean. 
Probably a couple truths. 

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But one is. 
God picks the pastor for you. 

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Don't be so dissatisfied and 
upset with your pastor thinking 

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you need need another one. 
Unless the Lord tells you, don't

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run away and don't lop on your 
pastor unrealistic expectations.

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It will frustrate you and it'll 
burn your pastor and make him 

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ineffective. 
It's just the truth the the way 

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it is. 
So we are in episode #8 #8 and 

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the topic today. 
Is really good and. 

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It came to me the idea, at least
the general idea, studying 

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through the kings studying. 
Through the scriptures. 

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And watching how people are 
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Watching how people are 
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I think of the most famous one. 
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The famous type of Jesus. 
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that most people, even if 
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Bible. 
Would probably be able to give. 

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Some sort of answer to this, and
it would be like the question do

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you know who King David is or 
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Yes. 
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Remembered. 
Well, Bob? 

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How is he remembered? 
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unfortunately, by that one 
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well, yeah, but didn't he do 
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And how can be, how can he be an
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Well, if he finished, well, he 
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because God looks at the 
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faithfulness and he knew the 
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Even when he called, he 
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through it all. 
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higher level of remembrance of 
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Before the adultery. 
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after God's own heart. 
That's how he's remembered. 

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And then come the excuses or the
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or a flawed man and. 
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was flawed. 
In multiple. 

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Ways just like Bob Clay. 
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Just like Ed Taylor, like. 
We may not have these 

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disqualifying flaws or, and I 
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I never want them. 
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would be silly. 
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Course we are filled with. 
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going to be remembered? 
That's an important I I We 

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should start thinking about that
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We should start thinking about 
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Do How do I? 
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How do? 
I want to live my life so that 

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after I'm gone. 
This is what? 

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I'll be known for yeah, What? 
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that? 
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What's something high on your 
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for and remembered for? 
I want to be known for someone 

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who repents quickly when I get 
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I want to be known by somebody 
who seeks the Lord and takes 

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serious the the calling. 
I want to be known as someone 

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who loves unconditionally. 
That the whole testimony is I 

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want my dash between the year of
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death to make a a difference. 
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want to focus on certain things,
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determine what parts of my life 
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lives of others. 
Yeah, I I thought about this. 

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I still think about it 
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Because I. 
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That this was. 
Thrust upon me was the sudden 

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death of my son, and seeing such
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quickly. 
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You start thinking about your 
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dash, when it's going to come, 
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And there's a new urgency. 
So I started thinking, I'm like,

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well, I want to be. 
I want to be remembered as a man

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who took his relationship with 
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That that. 
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He was that. 
He had a real. 

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Relationship with the Lord, he 
They can remember all my faults 

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and failures. 
There's many, and I wouldn't. 

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I wouldn't want people to forget
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who I am, but at the same time. 
What would be at the height of 

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it? 
Because I haven't really put a 

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phrase, but like what would I 
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Is like man that like I love 
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He loved his church. 
He's pretty serious. 

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About things and then they could
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you know, like, you know, I 
remember the time he came in and

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he just told me the way it is. 
Or I remember the time he's at 

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my hospital bed and he pray with
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Or how he got down to the level 
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all special. 
Like whatever the details are, 

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they are a detail that speak to.
The man love God and he loved 

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the people around him. 
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Amen. 
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And you know the the Old 
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of kings who started off well, 
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And even King Saul started off 
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all, and he should have stepped 
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It ruined Jonathan's future, 
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Jonathan would have been a great
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But the Lord saw that up front. 
I don't want to be used as an 

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example of what not to do. 
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Because legacy is built one way 
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remembered by how you lived your
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And those who know you closest, 
they're the ones that you impact

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greatly. 
Even if those of you that are 

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listening, even if your kids are
wayward right now, they're upset

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with you. 
They're angry with you. 

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They don't want to speak to you.
Don't stop. 

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Don't give up because it could 
be at your funeral when your 

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life testimony ends up breaking 
through that shell that they put

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up. 
As I watch that happen in all 

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the funerals I've done, I've 
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special ways. 
Yes, I like what you said a 

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legacy is. 
Built one way or another the. 

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Legacy of our life. 
Is going to be the sum total of 

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our life. 
The good, the bad and the ugly, 

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however. 
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Choices we've been pastoring in 
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where we see compromises and bad
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ruin lives and ruin families. 
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sharing this, I'm thinking of 
the time I've been. 

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All here, all these years. 
And just thinking of some real 

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prominent families, real 
prominent upfront serving their.

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Hearts out probably were used. 
To save marriages, used to bring

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people from the edge, save 
people from suicide, all sorts 

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of things. 
You know, some of them aren't 

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walking with the Lord anymore. 
They're divorced themselves. 

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Some have ended their own lives.
Some are atheists. 

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And I mean every every example I
just give you right now is a 

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face attached to a children. 
Attached to it like like that's 

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that's the legacy they're. 
Currently living right now, 

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they. 
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From it. 
But now it's stained, it's 

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indelible, indelibly stained. 
I think of, you know, even those

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of you listening right now, that
could be planning sin or 

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compromise or thinking you can 
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I remember having to step into a
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Where the pastor? 
Stole hundreds of thousands of 

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dollars from the church, 
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It was shocking to me, first and
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I've heard about it. 
I've heard about in other 

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churches but I was I was 
involved to to clean up the mess

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and and dig in and do a front 
forensic analysis of their books

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and and I'm hundreds of 
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what happened what happened I I.
We all have. 

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Testimonies or recollections of 
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of. 
Churches that pastors that were.

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Prominent pastors on the radio. 
Pastors that. 

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Filled thousands and thousands 
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They're not. 
They're not even what have a 

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walk with the Lord anymore. 
They committed. 

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Adultery. 
Their kids. 

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Don't like them, their parent, 
their former wife, don't like 

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them. 
And and it was just, it didn't, 

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it didn't happen overnight, man.
Yeah, finishing well at the end 

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of your life starts with today, 
and you just finished well today

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doesn't mean you're perfect 
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It means that you repent and you
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Finishing well today, finishing 
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this month, finishing well. 
This year, year after year, 

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that's how you end up finishing 
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But if you say, well, I've got 
time to kind of like clear 

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things up later, No, it no, it 
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Today is the only day. 
You wake up at 2:00 AM tomorrow.

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It's still today in in your life
existence. 

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So finish well today with your 
family, with your relationships,

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with your Ministry, You have to,
because it just doesn't come 

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automatically. 
It has to be intentional. 

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And this is a warning. 
What you're just showing right 

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now, It's a warning as I'm 
listening to you because we're 

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talking to people. 
That are full. 

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They have full lives. 
They have busy lives. 

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Talking to pastors who have 
limited resources in a growing 

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church, and they got to do this 
and they have to do that and 

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they can't take a break in 
there, maybe even to the neglect

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of their own rest or their own 
vocation or. 

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And and they're just that when 
they're listening to. 

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Us they're they're like, oh. 
Just more things to do. 

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More things to do. 
No, no, it's. 

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Actually a call. 
To do less things where you find

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yourself in a position of 
abiding in Christ. 

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This principle might sound 
familiar. 

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To people that have read. 
Books in the business world, how

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to be a better manager and such 
a real. 

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Popular book. 
For many years multi million. 

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Bestseller is. 
I think it's the seven. 

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Habits of highly successful. 
People by Stephen Covey. 

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He. 
Wrote this book. 

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Very popular. 
One of his chapters. 

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Is is a powerful chapter. 
And. 

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He teaches the the leader. 
He says. 

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I think the title of it was 
Think with the End in Mind, 

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which sounds very similar what 
we're talking about here, that 

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when you're leading, think about
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So you could take. 
People there like you got. 

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To think ahead, you got to think
of what it's going to be when 

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you're done and, you know, get a
good 360 view of everything. 

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So you're thinking with the end 
in mind and you're not aimlessly

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wandering around. 
This is a similar principle, 

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except it's not as complicated 
as There's a business world 

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where you got to make it all 
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You don't need to make anything 
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Headed. 
Christ likeness, God's already 

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showed you where you're headed. 
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image of. 
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Response now is to abide. 
Where all of his resources are. 

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All of his wisdom is. 
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Everything that we need is found
in Christ, and as we're abiding 

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in Christ, we're being led by 
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of. 
Faith. 

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And living, making decisions. 
When it comes to making 

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decisions, hey, I'm headed 
toward Christ likeness, so this 

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decision is not going to get me 
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I'm headed toward a favorable 
like I'm the first man in my 

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family that's saved. 
So I want that to patriarchal 

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position that that leadership 
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known as my grandpa, my great 
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That's where it all started. 
It was his walk with the Lord. 

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It was his faithfulness. 
It was his discipleship. 

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That handed down through 
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You don't want to be remembered 
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Or the liar or. 
The one that's always working a 

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deal, You know you. 
There's a lot of these. 

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Characters in the Bible or even 
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You know we if Rahab wasn't in 
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redeemed, then she would be 
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But now she's remembered. 
As the harlot that was. 

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Redeemed. 
She was changed, and we 

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remember. 
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In helping the spies Not for her
sex work. 

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Because that's the legacy that 
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Define that. 
What does it look like to finish

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well at the end of the day? 
And what's involved in that is 

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not trying to accomplish some 
personal agenda that you want to

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see done. 
But it's my love for the Lord 

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Jesus, his expectation of me and
resting in the portion of grace 

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that he distributes. 
Because I can't be like anybody 

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else. 
I can't accomplish what other 

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people accomplish. 
I am just to walk within the 

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measure of the grace that God 
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And in ministry, there are so 
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There's so much push to bring 
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greater in this year and and you
bring that all about and God has

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to bless it because you have 
good intentions and that's just 

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so upside down. 
Walking in the measure of the 

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grace you have is faithfulness 
and that's how you finish well. 

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Finish well isn't a bunch of 
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Finishing well is being 
faithful. 

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Keeping it simple you and Jesus.
I'm at the end of the day, I'm. 

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I'm talking with pastors all 
over the world that you know, 

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are telling me, you know, I've 
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Shouldn't that look different 
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And. 
And impacted square one. 

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And I can't believe it. 
How come people do this? 

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I'm going, well, how does it 
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Well, what do you mean? 
I said, well, well, you came 

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here with nobody, just your 
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So what's? 
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up and you're so excited now. 
What happened? 

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Well, yeah, but it's been 15 
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different. 
Really. 

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In whose eyes? 
Is that what you think Jesus is 

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looking for? 
He sent you out there to take 

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care of the few sheep because he
loved those sheep. 

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And he. 
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He said it. 
Is anybody willing to go? 

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And you raised your hand. 
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And so he sacrificed and you're 
there and you were super happy 

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and super excited. 
What happened? 

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Well yeah. 
But. 

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And it's all that. 
Yeah. 

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But I'm going. 
Look, get back to basics. 

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It's you and Jesus. 
Figure out the portion of grace 

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he's given to you. 
Operate within it. 

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Be thankful. 
Be grateful. 

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Put your head on the pillow. 
We're very fragile people, you 

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know, because when you're asked 
that question, what happened? 

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We can answer it 1000 different 
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But we're so fragile we we start
out. 

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Well, and we met. 
We have all the right 

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measurements. 
I, I I've always made that joke 

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to you know that and I've tried 
to set. 

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Up. 
These guards in my life, so that

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if my flesh. 
Does fire up the guards will? 

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Push me back. 
Kind of like when you're 

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bowling, you know, and the. 
Kids they cover the you cover 

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the gutters. 
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Is to get the ball down there. 
That's the whole goal. 

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Somehow the goal became strikes 
and somehow the goal became a 

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300 game. 
But the real goal when you're 5 

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years old is just hit something.
That's it, just hit something. 

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And that's how pastoring can. 
Be like we start out. 

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When I moved here, we move with 
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the, you know, anything above 5.
And I I mean it. 

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Although I'm sure I've had my 
days, but like any anything 

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over? 
Five is great because. 

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That's how what I moved here 
with anything less than five 

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means, man, I think my wife's 
going to another church, you 

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know, it's like, and I know my 
kids are with me, but. 

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Like it? 
It's. 

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You go through that and you're 
learning these things, but we're

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so. 
Fragile because the size of the 

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church, the size of the budget. 
Some book that rewrote read 

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some. 
YouTube video. 

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Some podcast, you know, said 
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now it's Instagram and look at 
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Big that church look at. 
We start at the same time we, 

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you know, I just saw today and I
didn't have any negative 

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response, but I did see it 
today. 

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Like it didn't bum me out. 
But I I saw a a a church post. 

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I mean this church is multi 
thousands of people, multi 

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thousands of people they we are 
church 25. 

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Years. 
They're a church. 15 years, 

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that's how fast. 
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15 years. 
And they were celebrating it. 

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And if we're not careful? 
We'll be all. 

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Upset. 
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them, that's a milestone. 
This church made it 15 years. 

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Whether they had it small or 
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They weren't saying, look at us,
we're so big and you're so small

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that we're doing that at all. 
They were just like. 

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We are so happy we made it 15 
years and it happens to be a. 

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Big Church but. 
If I'm in a bad. 

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Space. 
And I can be. 

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Or if I'm bummed out about 
something, or another family's 

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left, or they're mad, or an 
e-mail or whatever, I could let 

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something so exciting about 
celebrating 15 years. 

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The oh oh Lord, you're. 
I can't believe it. 

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Why do they? 
Why? 

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You know, no, no. 
And so I've. 

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Really tried to set. 
Up guardrails in my own life, in

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my own leadership, so I can. 
Celebrate the victories, ours 

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and. 
Others and one thing I I want to

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build on and what you said is 
how how do we finish? 

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Well, at the end of the day, one
of the things that's necessary 

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is to stay on the track. 
You're never going to get 

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through the finish line if you 
don't stay on the track. 

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You got to run your race on your
track to your finish line. 

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And I think and tell me what you
think about this, but I think a 

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big. 
Part of. 

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Staying on the track is 
repentance. 

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Why absolutely. 
And what does that look like? 

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Like repentance. 
Like is it? 

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Am I so far off the track? 
Repentance get me. 

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Backwards, so I start. 
Running away from the like, What

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is repentance look like on this 
finishing the race? 

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Well, it's it starts on the 
inside because all behavior 

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starts on the inside. 
And so there's an attitude 

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issue. 
You're angry or you're 

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frustrated or you're not 
handling it right and you're in 

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the flesh and you're not willing
to stop your you want to you 

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want to press the ticket and and
you forget that every time you 

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sow to the flesh you'll reap 
corruption that's guaranteed 

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100% and and you you you get it 
back in quantity and quality. 

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You sow 1 corn kernel of corn, 
it comes up not pair. 

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It it comes up a corn, a corn 
stalk and it's a multitude of of

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kernels that you get and so it's
quality and quantity when you 

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sow to the flesh. 
But that portion there in 

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Galatians 6 is the emphasis 
really is so do the spirit just 

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just one seed because you'll get
back in quality, life 

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everlasting and quantity. 
And so it's, it's finishing well

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is that when you find yourself 
like you have had an argument 

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with your wife or you were real 
harsh with your kids, you own it

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and you come back before the end
of the day and you ask 

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forgiveness, You own that, you 
humble yourself. 

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You don't wait for them to say, 
oh, you know, I shouldn't have 

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done that. 
No, take your responsibility 

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before the Lord finish. 
Well, I'm even if your flywheel 

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is still sending out sparks 
because you're so wound up, just

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repent. 
Just do it in faith. 

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Don't wait for the feeling. 
What's a flywheel Something? 

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That comes from my childhood 
with one of those cars. 

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Those cars, you know that you 
spin and created sparks. 

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OK, OK, you can take it off, but
the flywheel, because of the 

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inertia, is still spinning. 
And I can unplug myself from 

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being wound up, but I don't 
like, settle down right away. 

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It takes me a while for the 
flywheel to kind of eventually 

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slow down. 
Yeah, I I, I was thinking 

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another illustration. 
I want to end our episode. 

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We're almost done today but I 
want to hear if you have an 

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example. 
I have an example, but I was 

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thinking of if I'm running a 
race I'm going to finish well. 

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Where my eyes? 
Are are pretty, is pretty. 

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Important I need to have my eyes
on the prize, the finish line. 

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Even the Bible would teach us in
Hebrews to have my eyes firmly 

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fixed on Jesus, the author and 
finisher of our faith. 

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So where my eyes are are very 
important, so thinking about. 

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For a spiritual leader. 
Sunday School. 

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Teacher, elder, pastor, 
especially a pastor. 

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Have you ever had your eyes? 
Have you ever been Have you ever

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been distracted or taken off 
course in your? 

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Race of life because you were. 
Jealous about another church or?

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Upset about? 
OK. 

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Can you, do you have an example?
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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That you can share with us right
now. 

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When I was pastoring in Phoenix,
there was another up and coming 

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Calvary Chapel Church that was a
few miles away and they're 

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running out of space and they 
needed they couldn't find a 

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place to move. 
And now we were currently 

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working with with a shopping 
center to eventually move in. 

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And while I'm talking to him, 
the Holy Spirit said give me 

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your contact, 'cause you know 
you you're not getting out of 

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your lease for a year and a 
half. 

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So I gave him, I gave him. 
The contact is Mark Martin from 

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Calvary Community Church. 
And he not only worked out a 

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deal with a guy, he ended up 
buying the whole shopping 

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center. 
And it's a it's a mile and a 

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half away from us. 
And so I have to drive by the 

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place every day and drive home 
by it every night. 

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And there was jealousy. 
There was like, that's not fair.

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I mean, and the Lord said no, 
no, you are driving by it every 

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day and every night and you're 
going to pray for him every time

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you drive by. 
And you're going to stop in once

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a week and check on them and see
how they're doing with their 

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build out. 
And it killed me. 

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I mean, it was, it was terrible 
at first, but after a while, 

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it's like, you know, Lord, you 
do different things, different 

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places. 
Yeah. 

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And I was. 
And then people from our church 

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start going over there because 
it was so exciting. 

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And so we went down from 700 
down to 180. 

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Wow. 
And I had layoff all my staff. 

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And that's hard, you know? 
Yeah. 

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How? 
Did that get resolved? 

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How'd you get back on the 
course? 

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We. 
Moved, we imagine we had the. 

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Community Oh yeah, yeah. 
Yeah we had and there's still 

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great church and he's he's got 
the gift of evangelist. 

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I mean it's a it's an amazing 
ministry there but we had to 

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move and and there was a lot of 
challenges in the midst of it 

456
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,880
all. 
But finishing well is you 

457
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,760
eventually. 
Just let the Lord take care of 

458
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,440
everything and and walk within 
your lane. 

459
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,120
Because if you're looking around
at other people that are 

460
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:30,040
running, you're going to get out
of your lane #1, plus you're 

461
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,240
going to slow down. 
Yes, this discontentment. 

462
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,240
To get stirred up, so. 
Often, you know, the Bible says 

463
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,240
not to compare ourselves with 
the one another. 

464
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,840
It's foolish. 
It's not wise. 

465
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,800
The Proverbs 8 or maybe Paul 
said that comparing themselves 

466
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,360
with one with one another is not
wise and. 

467
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080
That it's a pitfall for us. 
I shared this one recently with 

468
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,440
our team that God's doing an 
inward work and you don't think 

469
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,360
it's that big? 
A deal like that's the key. 

470
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,480
These are. 
If you, I'm sure if you talk to 

471
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,680
an Olympic runner or somebody 
that's running the race that 

472
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,880
needs to finish. 
Well, they would tell you. 

473
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,040
About 1000 little things. 
Not all the big things. 

474
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,920
It's 1000 little things that 
they've just paid attention to 

475
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,240
that in their mind it's all one 
big thing. 

476
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520
I I think it's true. 
For us too, it's a. 1000 Little 

477
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,240
things. 
So I'm going through my 

478
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,320
Instagram feed recently and I'm 
noticing a pastor. 

479
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,600
That has a very large church. 
He's just always posting 

480
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,760
something great. 
He's always doing something. 

481
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,760
I've admired him all my. 
Life I I, I still. 

482
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,040
Admire him. 
He's a great brother. 

483
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,040
I met him. 
I've become friends with him. 

484
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760
It's amazing. 
It has nothing really to do with

485
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,320
him at all. 
It's all me and this is what God

486
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,160
wants to see. 
So I'm seeing him post this and 

487
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,440
post that and and going off to 
this place and getting invited 

488
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,360
over here and then just like. 
For this is so cool, I would 

489
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,760
love to do. 
This one day it would be great. 

490
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,720
I'd love to and and it's just 
not part. 

491
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520
It's not my not what I've been 
called to do. 

492
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,360
Although he. 
Has let me be a part of a lot of

493
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,880
great stuff and it's amazing. 
It's just if you. 

494
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,320
Compare if I compare to the 
brother. 

495
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Then I'm always going to fall. 
Short, but if I. 

496
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,720
Compare it to my lostness. 
I mean this is all icing man 

497
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,280
icing on the team. 
So I'm I'm seeing recently he's 

498
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,600
posting these pictures. 
He's in the airport. 

499
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Hey this is so and so and he 
listens to by he listens has a 

500
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480
little Bible study listening to 
me on in Ethiopia. 

501
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,760
Oh Lord, that's awesome. 
And you know, here's somebody 

502
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,080
that just came, they came all 
the way from, you know, Istanbul

503
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,760
to our church to to meet me. 
And they say they listen and 

504
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,760
have a little Bible study 
watching me on YouTube. 

505
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000
And he takes a picture of them 
and there's a few of them. 

506
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,440
And I just remember thinking, 
Lord, nobody, I've never met 

507
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,640
anybody like that in our church.
I've never had anybody that I 

508
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,600
can think of. 
I mean, I've had someone come 

509
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,520
from Bennett or I've had someone
come like from Highlands Ranch 

510
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,720
and it's beautiful and 
wonderful, but I've never had 

511
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,280
these kind of stories and I'm 
not bummed. 

512
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,000
Out about it like like. 
Depressed or anything, but I got

513
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,280
this little thing that's growing
and if it grows anymore, I'm 

514
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,800
going to get off. 
Course like. 

515
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:00,400
I don't even know where it's 
headed. 

516
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,960
So God's very gracious. 
And I'm not praying. 

517
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,880
I didn't pray. 
As a God, please. 

518
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,640
Let me I didn't pray for it. 
I didn't ask for it. 

519
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,840
And then a. 
Couple weeks ago, A couple weeks

520
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,240
ago. 
After a normal Wednesday night 

521
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,520
service which is a portion of 
the. 

522
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,880
Church, Right So. 
We even we even block off a 

523
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040
couple corners of our sanctuary.
Because we it's it's a very. 

524
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Small portion of our church. 
It's a wonderful portion of our 

525
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,120
church. 
But the. 

526
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,120
Gathering on Wednesdays is 
smaller than the weekends, like 

527
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,960
most churches. 
And after the service, I'm 

528
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,560
greeting everyone, praying with 
people. 

529
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,200
And this young woman comes up 
probably in her 20s and Asian. 

530
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560
And she comes up and she's oh, 
Pastor Ed. 

531
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760
She's nervous. 
I came to meet you and I'm like,

532
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,440
OK, maybe she heard on the radio
or something and and she's. 

533
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,240
Literally says. 
Yeah, I I came here from Vietnam

534
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,680
to meet you. 
I listened to you on the radio 

535
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,000
and we get. 
Together with little Bible 

536
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600
studies. 
Watching you online and and here

537
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,320
are my friends. 
They're introduced and so can we

538
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,640
take a picture? 
And I said sure we can take a 

539
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,840
picture. 
And and I ended up taking the 

540
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,240
picture with them. 
She sent it to me. 

541
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,360
I posted it because now I have a
testimony like that pastor, but 

542
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,480
that's not the end. 
That's that's just. 

543
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,680
That that you would think that's
the end you go Ed, but it's not 

544
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960
the end because. 
God's like OK, Ed. 

545
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,520
What do you want, like I have in
this conversation with God? 

546
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Like, what do you want? 
Like, Because it wasn't, it 

547
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,240
wasn't satisfying like, I mean, 
it wasn't satisfying like that 

548
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,920
jealousy or whatever I'm 
feeling. 

549
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,720
It was beautiful. 
That I got to serve and I 

550
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,800
couldn't believe it. 
It's like I'm. 

551
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480
Still shocked? 
But God, just using that person 

552
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,480
in my life to go, OK, Ed, what 
do you want? 

553
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,640
Well, you know, and I have 
things on my I mean, I'm talking

554
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,680
about, what do you mean what I 
want? 

555
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,480
Well, I mean you want somebody 
to come from. 

556
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,720
You want me to send something 
from Vietnam so you can take a 

557
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,720
picture and post on. 
That's easy for me. 

558
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,560
I just it's easy. 
It's done. 

559
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360
And then so I'm thinking about, 
well, you know what? 

560
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,200
I'd like to see my grandson. 
That's easy. 

561
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,920
I could you, you know, one day 
you're going to see your 

562
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,760
grandson. 
That's easy. 

563
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,040
You haven't seen him for 10 
years. 

564
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,400
But it's easy. 
What else? 

565
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Do you want and? 
I've got some things in my mind 

566
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,280
and and it was. 
Like the Lord was. 

567
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,000
Saying and this is like my. 
Race. 

568
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960
It's like Ed. 
All that you want is easy for 

569
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,560
me, But when are you going to 
ask for me like you want all 

570
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920
these things? 
You got my whole question wrong.

571
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,880
You want me? 
You want to have a. 

572
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,520
Picture like that, pastor that. 
That's not hard for me. 

573
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,920
That's not and it's like and 
even some things that I think 

574
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880
are literally impossible, God 
says that is not. 

575
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,000
And I I was reminded because I 
shared it with. 

576
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Staff yesterday at our staff. 
Meeting Debbie, one of the 

577
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,680
sisters comes up and she 
reminded me of the text in 

578
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,600
Second Kings where they were 
digging ditches and and he says.

579
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,160
This whole the whole valley. 
Is going to be filled. 

580
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,040
With water, this is a. 
Simple matter for me and I'm 

581
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,960
going to give you. 
Victory over the. 

582
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Armies like and here's this. 
This this group of. 

583
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,480
People in Second Kings that is 
marching to battle. 

584
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,440
They're men of war. 
They've been marching for days. 

585
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,800
They come to the arid desert. 
There's no water. 

586
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,600
And that's where everything 
stops. 

587
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,320
We need. 
Water. 

588
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,240
We're going to die. 
We can't make it. 

589
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000
Water, water, water, water, 
water, water, water. 

590
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Water and God says. 
You know what guys? 

591
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,040
I think you forgot you came out 
here to to battle on war. 

592
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Water is no problem for me and 
neither I'm not only going to 

593
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,400
give you the water you want, but
I'm also going to give you the 

594
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,280
victory and sometimes the. 
These. 

595
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,240
Little things get in the way. 
That are serious. 

596
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,640
Things that are like big things 
like you're, you know. 

597
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,160
Basically, Ed, just be happy. 
For these people, you you have 

598
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,080
your own lane you're going to 
do. 

599
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,880
What I called you to do where I 
called you to do it the way I 

600
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,160
called you to. 
Do it and it's glorious. 

601
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,120
And I say, yes, Lord, Amen. 
It's great. 

602
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,720
But then these little foxes that
eat up the vines and I see this 

603
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,920
over here and I see this over 
here and and I'm so I don't have

604
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,320
any water, Lord. 
I don't have any. 

605
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,480
Like, take some ditches. 
I'll send you the water. 

606
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,400
But you forgot. 
You didn't come. 

607
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,440
I didn't bring you seven days in
the desert for water. 

608
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,240
Yeah, I can't. 
I brought you. 

609
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Seven days into the. 
Desert for victory. 

610
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Because Messiah is coming. 
Yeah. 

611
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320
It's all a part of the mystery 
of getting into the story of 

612
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,560
Jesus and and so at any rate, I 
think this is a great topic. 

613
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,360
I mean, can't we? 
Can't we have a whole season 

614
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920
talking about how checked up we 
can be? 

615
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,240
As we get our eyes off the Lord.
Yeah, it's not ending, but how 

616
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,320
God takes our missteps and turns
them around to His steps. 

617
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640
Look at you. 
Sounded like Micah. 

618
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Micah's his son. 
Is that he always likes. 

619
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,400
To rhyme things and put things 
into acronyms. 

620
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,920
So it was great. 
So anyway, you're listening to 

621
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920
another episode. 
Of lead, to serve. 

622
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Podcast My name is Ed Taylor. 
I'm in. 

623
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Studio with Pastor Bob Claycamp.
We served together here at 

624
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,400
Calvary Church. 
Pastor Bob's also a. 

625
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Travelling pastor and servant of
the Lord As a part of the Poyman

626
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,360
ministries, he can come to your 
church and give an assessment. 

627
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Fill the pulpit for you. 
Help with your leadership. 

628
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
There's a. 
Lot that he can do a lot that 

629
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,000
we. 
Can do as a church. 

630
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,440
We're resourcing church and we'd
love to serve you. 

631
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,120
If you need any help, all you 
need to do is ask. 

632
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080
So, any feedback you have, Any 
suggestions you have for topics,

633
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,680
e-mail me. 
Ed@edtaylor.org ed@edtaylor.org 

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00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,960
has to be.org. 
And you can text me directly 

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00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:33,520
720. 60800. 1/2. 
Or go to our website Calvary. 

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00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,680
Co that stands for Colorado dot 
Church. 

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00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,800
Until next time on the lead. 
To serve podcast God bless. 

638
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,080
You be encouraged and I hope 
you're enjoying the season. 

639
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,480
We certainly are. 
Lots to talk about, lots for the

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00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Holy Spirit to work. 
In our lives. 

641
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Stay close to the Lord because 
he loves you. 

642
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Thank you for joining us for 
this episode of Lead to Serve 

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00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,480
with Pastor Ed Taylor, a 
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644
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,280
Church in Aurora, Co. 
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645
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
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