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Welcome to the London History 
Podcast. 

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I'm your host, Hazel Baker from 
londonguidedwalks.co.uk. 

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I'm here guiding you through the
captivating tales that have 

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shaped our great city. 
Today we're taking you back to 

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an extraordinary winter's 
evening on the 30th of December 

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1952, to the heart of the 
capital and to an unforgettable 

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act of quick thinking and 
courage on one of London's most 

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iconic landmarks. 
Joining me today is Londoner 

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Carl Stanley, a listener of 
London History Podcast, who got 

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in touch and ousted if we could 
cover this event. 

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I responded and said of course 
if you cover it with me. 

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And here we are today. 
So join us as we uncover the 

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facts, the first hand accounts 
and the official investigations 

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behind the day Londoners 
witnessed a bus take flight over

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Tower Bridge. 
It's a story that combines 

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everyday heroicism, historic 
engineering and the 

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unpredictable drama of life in 
mid century London. 

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Let's get started. 
So welcome, Karl. 

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Hello. 
Thank you very much for having 

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me. 
Now this is let's just get this 

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sorted to everybody's mind that 
we're talking about the pretty 

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Tower Bridge and not London 
Bridge, which everyone seems to 

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get confused about. 
Yes, yes. 

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The one with the Gothic towers, 
the Gothic Spires, that Tower 

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Bridge, that's the one we're 
talking about. 

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Yes, absolutely. 
All right. 

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So would you like to share with 
everybody what we're talking 

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about today? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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So I would like to just 
basically share and talk about 

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the story of Albert Gunter and 
his bus, his day job, his 

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commute across Tower Bridge and 
how he jumped Tower Bridge after

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it started opening. 
Sounds like a movie, but this 

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was something in real life 
wasn't. 

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It it was, yeah. 
It does sound very Hollywood. 

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It really does. 
And I think that's what makes it

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all the more fascinating, to be 
honest, that this was actually a

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real event that happened. 
And not even recently. 

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It happened back in 1952 as 
well. 30th of December 1952. 

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So a very cold, dark night 
Tuesday night and he was driving

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the number 76 bus, wasn't he? 
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number 78 bus, yeah #78 bus 
doing the Shoreditch to Dulwich 

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route. 
Shoreditch to Dulwich. 

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So what? 
That's not 78 now. 

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What is it now? 
To be honest, I'm not too sure. 

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I don't really frequent the 
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I'm more of a true two person, 
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Oh I love a good bus, especially
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pretending to be the driver. 
Well, you could always do the 

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DLR for that if you want to 
pretend to be the driver. 

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That is true. 
I haven't done the new ones yet 

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either, so that's something to 
take off my list. 

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So he was a bus driver and he 
was driving over Tower Bridge. 

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He was he was indeed. 
If you don't mind, just give a 

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bit of background context to to 
the story. 

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It it was as as we've 
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of December 1952. 
And don't forget at this time or

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during this time, it was the 
London had the great smog, the 

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peace hoopers of 1952. 
And it was only just after this 

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event so that the smokes were 
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atmosphere. 
They were starting to clear, but

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they hadn't fully cleared. 
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atmosphere and the environment 
around London very hazy, very 

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foggy, still very murky in at 
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Added to this, this event, when 
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evening as well. 
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the remnants of the Great Smog, 
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dark, hazy. 
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Tower Bridge itself, they were 
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terms of the raising of the 
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Their their job was to manually 
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to ring a warning bell and to 
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green to red for the traffic. 
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vital and crucial for this to 
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So that's a bit of context 
around the background of the 

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where this all may lead towards.
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like a a happy story after 
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the smog events from 1950, two 
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in the five days of the main 
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December. 
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you know, suddenly there's, 
there's a really interesting 

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quite a unique glory and we're 
still talking about it even now.

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We're also talking about really 
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For those you are listening in 
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know this is the depth of winter
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Yeah, absolutely. 
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can be quite misty, quite hazy 
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So yes, adding to the fact that 
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that time of the Great Smog, 
it's just really bad in terms of

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visibility. 
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background. 
That was a bit of context. 

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So anyway, the the driver of 
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on, I'd say he was just doing 
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He was on his shortest to 
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Tower Bridge. 
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Bridge, he notices the traffic 
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It all seems normal basically to
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So in fact, that that is what he
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He proceeds and only when he's 
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suddenly realize through his 
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Bridge Rd. is starting to sort 
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sort of panic that's settling 
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stop. 
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bridge. 
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It's also too late to reverse. 
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bascule. 
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It's already rising. 
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had one real choice, only one 
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So he sort of in a very 
Hollywood fashion, in a Very 

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Fast and Furious type of 
fashion, he slams the bus into 

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gear and he absolutely flaws it 
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He didn't have very much option.
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on the. 
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number, around 40 I think. 
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bit of information about the bus
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The bus it was, it was a Regent 
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was one of the most commonly 
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the time in the 1950s. 
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its top speed was around about 
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that is just like bonkers 
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Absolutely mind boggling. 
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You said, I mean, he didn't have
the really much option. 

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I mean he was a 46 year old 
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He was very experienced. 
You can't go backwards, so the 

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only thing to go is forward. 
You put your foot down and just 

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hope for the. 
Best. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
That is all you can do. 

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So, yeah. 
So he floored it, he went for it

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and and against all the odds, he
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He managed to jump the gap. 
He managed to land the bus 

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without crashing it either. 
It was quite a remarkable feat, 

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to be fair. 
Afterwards, they were sort of 

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like injury reports, initial 
injury reports that came out 

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afterwards, but they were a 
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For example, some reports said 
that Albert Gunter himself, the 

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bus driver, he had fractured his
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So we're not entirely sure. 
That seems a little bit vague. 

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But however, what we do know is 
that everyone on board was safe 

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in their life. 
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think about those old style 
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black and white movies. 
I mean, nowadays the the tests 

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that the buses have to do and 
all the whole going up on ramps 

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and this that and the other. 
I mean, I think maybe a modern 

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bus would have a better chance 
of bouncing back from that 5 

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foot drop. 
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miles an hour at top speed at 
that gradient as well and just 

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having to to go for it and for 
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that's a success story, I think.
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Absolutely. 
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such an achievement as well. 
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from modern day times, I mean 
even for a modern day bus to try

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and jump the gap when the bridge
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unthinkable. 
So yeah, in the 1950s with their

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the technology of the buses then
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And in fact the the bus itself 
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little to the damage itself, 
which in itself is quite 

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incredible. 
I see they built things to last 

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then you see. 
Yeah, that's very true. 

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That's very true. 
What about this then? 

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Because, you know, he didn't 
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he couldn't like, you know, 
announce it to everybody. 

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So how do we know that? 
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You can imagine the is trying to
think this that on the download.

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Yeah, but as you can imagine, 
something back in those times as

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well, something quite remarkable
such as this, the media was 

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straight on it. 
They were all over it. 

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The, the media in those days, 
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we're on about the press, the 
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So they were there, they were on
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the low down the information and
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interview a couple of people. 
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passenger, Peter Dunn. 
He spoke to the press and he, he

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basically just told them about 
upon landing, there was such a 

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loud crashing sound and crashing
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It was actually launched and 
thrown from his seat as well. 

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So he told of that there was 
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No, no seat belts either, are 
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So they would have been just 
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seats and then up, up into the 
ceiling you go. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
Say no seatbelts or anything 

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like that. 
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their seat. 
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well that gave an interview to 
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Her name was Mae Walshaw and she
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her seat upon the landing, the 
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She also said that she was so 
distraught by the event that she

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would never use a bus again. 
She would never take a bus 

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again, she was that impacted by 
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However, she was eternally 
grateful for Albert Gunter and 

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his bravery basically, and for 
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himself. 
He was also interviewed not by a

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newspaper, it was actually 
interviewed by Time magazine and

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he basically gave a little bit 
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feelings and, and how he he went
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So he said to Time magazine that
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tank driver in the military. 
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he knew that heavy vehicles 
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And because of the situation he 
was in, he was in heavy vehicle,

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he had the tank driving 
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He thought, what the heck, give 
it a go. 

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So, yeah, so he gave that 
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little bit of insight as well, 
which I feel was quite 

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fascinating to have that sort of
background and context to him as

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well and his feelings about. 
It you see, knowing that you 

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were coming on, I thought I'd do
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And this, this draws up a really
interesting point because you're

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saying he was a tank driver. 
I didn't come up with that. 

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I found in the Holloway Press an
article of interviewing his 

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wife. 
Rather than him. 

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Yeah, and it says that he served
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the worst of the London raids. 
And they must, they must have 

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quoted from him because he says 
it was my worst experience yet. 

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But then the wife picks up and 
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had happened, Right? 
So, so multiple accounts and 

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reports basically there. 
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It was a bit of a media 
celebrity then I'd I'd imagine 

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at this point a minor media 
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Yeah, I mean, this is on the 2nd
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leg if he had been hurt then. 
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demand basically for an inquest 
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authorities basically trying to 
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this even occur? 
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London did admit faults and take
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They blamed the on duty Watchmen
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He was blamed for misjudgment 
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What was Al? 
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What did they take the couch? 
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That he was. 
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He was very new. 
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lacked. 
Training Oh, was that, see, I, I

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didn't know that part of it. 
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took the full brunt of the blame
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So yeah, he took the full brunt 
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trying to basically to get some 
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it, we were coming out at the 
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and visibility was really poor. 
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played a part into it. 
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the road traffic or was just so 
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realise that the traffic signals
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any warning or anything. 
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part into it, but I'm only sort 
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Yeah, no idea whatsoever. 
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how it actually is supposed to 
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happen at the time they're 
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traffic. 
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on their training or lack there 
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lift the bridge. 
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light turns on and then there's 
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barricade I think was manual in 
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yeah. 
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Then it wasn't, and then the 
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by pressing the button, so maybe
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The bus, yeah, that's the thing 
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poor. 
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I don't think we'll ever really 
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and assume basically. 
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to say the, the Corporation of 
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they blamed it on the poor 
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rewards for Albert Gunter 
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rewarded him for his quick 
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They gave him 10 lbs and they 
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The Corporation of London then 
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was a lot more generous to be 
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They gave him 35 lbs as a cash 
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holiday in Dorset. 
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furthermore, him, him and his 
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Lord Mayor's party as well. 
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looked after basically for, for 
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his bravery. 
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part of the whole story really 
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remember Mae Walshaw, the 
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that she would never use a bus 
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event, she actually got married 
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her wedding as a thanks for 
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So I thought that was a really 
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Oh lovely, that shows that she 
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just the situation. 
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I think that was probably the 
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reward, probably for Albert as 
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Yeah, absolutely. 
I mean, when I was having a look

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at the the aftermath, you know, 
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something to to print about. 
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the Holloway Press. 
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talks about how the busman who 
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last week, Mr. Albert Gunter of 
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Islington, has been invited to 
meet the man behind Islington's 

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record-breaking Rd. 
Safety campaign, Rd. 

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Safety Officer Walter Strachan. 
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campaign and then it says Mr. 
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week on our front page. 
All right, so he did really get 

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marked. 
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One and done almost. 
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He's at his 5 minutes of fame. 
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that article also in the 
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children, really about his, his 
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also his son Alan at the age of 
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And it's right, it's like a 
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They, they wake up the next day 
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and they find out that it's 
their daddy who's the, the bus 

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driver. 
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excited that she went to the 
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as many copies of the newspaper 
as possible because she was so 

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proud. 
I mean, how lovely is that? 

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children. 
Imagine your dad has become this

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almost real life superhero. 
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that? 
What What do you do? 

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Do you ever see your dad in a 
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light? 
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It must be. 
It must have been so surreal. 

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And I can only imagine where 
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returned to school, imagine what
all the kids were saying or 

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their friends were saying, even 
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Yeah. 
It must have been such a weird, 

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weird, but wonderful time for 
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I. 
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If the kids have been asked what
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up, the answer would have been. 
Bus driver. 

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Absolutely better than any 
Superman or Spider Man out 

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there. 
Be a bus driver. 

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Oh. 
Really. 

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Oh, a fantastic story. 
Like, I can't believe really 

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that we're still talking about 
it now and with, you know, with 

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all the things that happen in a 
crazy world, but dealing with an

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emergency so well and becoming a
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is a great story to talk about 
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Yeah, it's, I think it's one of 
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That's relatively unknown to a 
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like in modern times. 
I think it's one of those that 

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kind of went under the radar 
slightly, which is quite 

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surprising given the the sort of
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of the incident. 
So it's really nice to sort of 

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talk about it, bring it back 
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speak, and just basically spread
the word of it. 

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Oh, absolutely. 
Well, thank you very much Carl 

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for for sharing your love and 
enthusiasm of London history. 

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Thank you very much for having 
me. 

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It's been great. 
Thank you. 

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What an incredible journey we've
taken today, revisiting one of 

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the city's most dramatic and 
heart warming moments from 

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London history. 
On a cold, smoggy evening in 

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December 1952, Albert Gunter, 
behind the wheel of his double 

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Decker bus, became an unlikely 
London hero when quick thinking 

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and courage helped a bus packed 
with passengers leap a widening 

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gap on Tower Bridge. 
We've uncovered eyewitness 

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accounts the passengers launched
from their seats without 

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seatbelts, the astonished press 
interviews and touching 

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aftermath, including rewards for
Gunter and the heartfelt tribute

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from those whose lives were 
changed. 

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We've explored the foggy winter,
the mechanical quirks, the 

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errors and lessons learned, and 
the enduring sense of community 

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and gratitude in London, even 
amid chaos. 

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Thank you for listening to the 
London History Podcast, where 

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the everyday heroes and 
surprising moments of our city 

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come to life. 
If you've enjoyed this episode, 

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please don't forget to subscribe
for more tales from the streets,

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bridges and hearts of London. 
A special thanks to my guest 

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Carl Stanley for his curiosity 
and enthusiasm, and to all our 

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listeners who keep London's 
stories alive, I'm Hazel Baker 

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from londonguidedwalks.co.uk. 
Until next time, keep exploring,

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keep asking questions and above 
all, keep loving London.

