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Welcome to Comfort Zone, a 
podcast all about pushing a host

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well outside of their comfort 
zone. 

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I'm Christopher Lawley and each 
week I'm joined by two 

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incredible Co hosts. 
As always, I'm joined by Matt 

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Burchler. 
Matt, how are you? 

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Because I'm doing well, I wanted
to just let the audience know 

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who's watching that I'm drinking
a brew, Dr. Ian Bucha, which is 

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not alcoholic, which really 
confused the the cashier at the 

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grocery store. 
This the weekend they really 

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thought it was alcoholic. 
So I just want people to know 

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this is not and I am fine. 
It is 10 AM, nothing's 

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happening. 
It's 5:00 somewhere, Matt, and 

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where it's probably past five 
O'clock isn't Elion. 

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Elion, how are you? 
I'm doing well. 

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It's almost six. 
Yeah, you're. 

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Right. 
So it's not 5:00 there. 

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It's almost 6. 
OK, well pour me something tall 

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and strong. 
I'm drinking fizzy water with a 

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lichy syrup. 
And I have a Doctor Pepper 0 

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sugar but with cherry this time 
it's OK. 

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It's. 
It's not as good as the cream. 

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Soda one, the cream soda, they 
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So we're doing the cherry this 
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It's good. 
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already has a bit of a cherry 
flavor to it, so it just 

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enhances the cherry flavor. 
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You don't. 
You don't even know. 

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You don't. 
Even. 

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Know you. 
You. 

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Kid, you don't know. 
I don't know. 

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Anyways, we got some tiny 
topics. 

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Matt, you made something for 
comfort zone. 

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You want to talk about it I. 
Did I? 

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I made the Comfort Zone 
database, which is the coolest 

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database on the Internet and 
it's powered by crypto. 

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So here's how it works. 
You are going to pay us a 

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certain amount. 
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I made for myself where I had a 
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we talked about this before? 
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I was like, I don't know if 
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before. 
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I could use to just search our 
past transcripts very easily and

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see when we talked about things.
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spiraled into a, well, this 
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That'd be the easiest way to do 
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Let me do that. 
OK, I've done that now. 

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Oh, deploying this online in 
2026 is super easy and super 

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free. 
So I just posted it online and 

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people can check it out if they 
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things and it has subscribe 
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And it looks cute, like our 
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Nice, I love this. 
By the way, I looked up because 

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I was kind of curious what has 
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more Mustangs or Doctor Pepper? 
Dr. Pepper has been mentioned. 

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More Well, that makes sense, I 
think, if it told us who brought

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them up. 
These are unanimously Chris 

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topics. 
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because I was like, how many 
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things that I love? 
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Danielle that way because I know
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I hope she's not listening in 
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But this is good now we we 
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lot of episodes in our backlog 
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if we've already talked about 
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Yeah, no, I, I love this. 
This is this was great. 

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In fact, I for the challenge 
that I'm going to issue today, I

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looked up to see if we had done 
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not. 
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tell, Matt, a couple weeks ago I
suggested you get some new 

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Airpods Pro 3 Tips. 
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recording schedule, I believe 
you have them now and I'm 

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curious what you think. 
I do have them now, they're on 

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my Airpods Pro 3 which I do have
on my person because they are 

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better than Apple's tips. 
Yes, victory. 

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Woohoo, Chris, Like something. 
I don't know what I went. 

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My micro review of them is they 
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my ears, which is good. 
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which is the bar they are having
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They are not as good as the 
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ships for me. 
So I still think those are like 

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just peak comfort, just like 
sliding gears and I'm just like 

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I'm in heaven. 
But these don't hurt me. 

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Again, it's a low bar, but it 
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It's definitely better than what
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And yeah, it's gotten me using 
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It's got me appreciating the 
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volume on the Pros, which the 
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Nice, nice. 
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the charge in active foam. 
Something something LinkedIn the

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description. 
Yes, yeah, just like 2 days 

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later after I ordered and it was
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Oh, nice, nice. 
That's nice. 

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I'm I'm so glad to hear they're 
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I am working on a little short 
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kind of spread the word because 
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that has had complaints about 
the Airpod Pros 3. 

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Yeah, can Can I also talk about 
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Please. 
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but it's pretty close. 
It's my new Yep headphone 

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questions, are they? 
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Wait, are these another new 
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I think so. 
I, I, I just searched on the 

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comfort zone database to see if 
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ones and it doesn't seem like 
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So these ones, they're really 
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like I don't know if I can show 
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No, I see, I see. 
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a slope to them. 
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of my ears don't touch the like 
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So this is really comfortable. 
And also they are, since they 

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are angled toward your ears, 
it's like it preserves the sound

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because it adds quite a bit of 
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But since it's angled and in the
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distance, the sound isn't 
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So yeah. 
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That's actually really smart. 
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like that. 
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headphone talk a little later as
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feedback. 
Who I I don't, I think. 

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I think this is kind of related 
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Or yeah, I, I, I put these in 
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I pulled from our our feedback 
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Of course, we have two pieces of
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Jesse is responding to Chris, 
Your question about how we name 

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our devices, that's right from a
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And Jesse says my iPad is named 
Love Magnet after the object of 

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that name carried by the Shaggy 
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book The Road to Oz. 
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With what is that? 
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But basically because my iPad 
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object to me, my Max internal 
SSD is named a lot, partially 

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because I have a lot of files on
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the Ally Brosh book Hyperbole 
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So very deep literary cuts or 
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just don't read. 
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I I literally have a library 
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and not a single one of those 
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to me. 
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So you can tell who in this 
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this bookshelf back here, which 
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So yeah. 
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name all my devices after 
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Steel Marillion because it's one
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read in my life, so I should 
flex a little bit, OK? 

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I've tried reading the 
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It's it's the hardest book I've 
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It is. 
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is. 
In fact, I have a copyright. 

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Why? 
Why would you want to show your 

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copy I? 
Have I have my copy of the? 

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Silmarillion. 
Oh, it's a fancy one. 

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Yeah, it's a fancy one. 
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Yeah. 
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Oh, So yeah, if it's written in 
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it's not going to be easy to 
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To want the English translation 
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Going to be a lot focus. 
It's an English. 

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OK, OK, it's an Elvish. 
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nice copies of all the Lord of 
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Silmarillion, The Hobbit, and 
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So she got me a really nice copy
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Christmas. 
I think I talked about this on 

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the show. 
Nice. 

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Anyways. 
Let me check in the database OK.

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The the second bit of feedback 
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on Comfort Zone episode 91, Neil
Ion mentioned that she's using 

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an emoji picker app in place of 
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Cast emoji picker on GitHub and 
forked it and it was a rabbit 

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hole. 
I want to know more is there is 

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there anything you want to say 
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What this emoji picker turned 
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Anything you want to puck. 
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it was meant as a teaser for 
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I launched Tiny Start, the 
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Mac. 
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last week in the episode a 
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But yes, it part of that rabbit 
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I was looking for obscure emoji 
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GitHub and I found one that 
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then abandoned it and never 
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So I forked it and this is how 
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And so, yeah, that's how I was. 
I really iterated on that a 

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bunch. 
And then I scrapped it, started 

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from scratch, made tiny start 
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Nice. 
Yeah, Well, well, Speaking of 

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development projects that were 
scrapped on Cozy Zone this week,

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we roasted each other's 10 year 
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iPads, all sorts of different 
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And I showed off screenshots of 
my first app I ever made. 

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First and only app I ever made. 
And when you see the 

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screenshots, you'll know why it 
was the only app I ever made 

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because oh boy is it ugly. 
But yeah, that was this week on 

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Cozy Zone. 
Cozy Zones are members only 

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special show where you get an 
extra episode of US every single

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week. 
And my home screen had widgets 

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in 2016, yeah. 
Because technology hadn't 

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reached a certain OS yet. 
We had we hadn't been judged to 

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be allowed to have them. 
We we hadn't been good enough to

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be allowed to have them. 
At the time you were like, hey, 

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iOS don't need. 
We just need. 

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Them right? 
Yeah, widgets are actually bad. 

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Yeah, that's really bad. 
Steve had decided we didn't need

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them, so we were OK with that. 
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Any anything else? 
Or should we move on to the main

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show? 
Let's move on. 

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I want to roast you. 
I don't know why you want to 

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roast me. 
I'm bringing something brand new

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to the show. 
Nothing like this ever seen 

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before, ever. 
Whatsoever. 

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So this last week a large 
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50th anniversary and on the day 
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released a new product for for 
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It would been announced a couple
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into one of their stores and. 
Buy anniversary Mac or 

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something. 
Yes, but the the 50th 

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anniversary Mac comes in the 
form of headphones. 

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Oh no. 
I have the Airpods Macs who not 

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to be confused with the Airpods 
Max one, which hang on one 

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second look at these things like
they're they're totally 

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different. 
They're they're absolutely 

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completely different. 
You you can't tell me which ones

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which. 
I can tell if you if you place 

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in front of the camera like the 
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headband. 
Yeah, yeah, look at. 

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That we'll be able to tell, 
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Yeah, the the headband on, on my
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literally I got these the day 
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I've had these since 2020. 
The, the, the canopy on these 

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things is completely destroyed. 
The fact that Apple doesn't sell

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a replacement for the headband 
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But yeah, these are my original 
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If you want to buy them, let me 
know you know. 

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Especially since the the 
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to remove. 
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pin clip thing that you push 
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it's actually pretty simple. 
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Those are filthy. 
You know, these are the 

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original. 
These are these are the original

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ones with lightning. 
I got them day one. 

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They're filthy, but I have the 
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backs ultra something something 
twos and I kind of love them. 

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I kind of absolutely love them. 
OK, so one, they're comfortable.

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They are comfortable for me. 
They're comfortable. 2, the ANC 

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is better, like they are better 
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on these. 
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really does bug me is so Apple 
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Then two years ago in 2024, they
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they did new colors for those. 
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too, and it's the same colors as
the USBC version, not to be 

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confused with the original 
version. 

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So the midnight is the same 
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Gen. 
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they're going to put another 
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have come up with new colors. 
Like, that's actually my, my, my

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nitpick complaint about this. 
Like, I have big complaints 

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about these. 
Don't get me wrong, I do have 

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big complaints about these, but 
the fact that they couldn't 

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bother come up with new colors 
because I don't think the color,

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like I got the black midnight 
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fun color options are actually 
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I I don't like them, but yeah. 
Do we think it's because so they

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were preparing the the the 
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slate of new colors for that, 
but then they had to rush a USBC

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version because of regulations. 
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that they already had. 
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probably. 
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that was a thing. 
I'm I'm, I'm more surprised at 

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how long these took to come out.
It probably was one of those 

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things where like, oh crap, that
UK law or European law or 

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whatever passed and now we have 
to sell them with USBC and stuff

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like that. 
So let's put that update out. 

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But these weren't the the twos 
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that because I don't know, but 
they're still overpriced, $550 

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is way too much for over. 
The ear headphones it's. 

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Way too much. 
I did it for the show. 

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Also tax write off what? 
Nothing. 

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The adaptive mode is really nice
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I really like the adaptive mode.
In fact I have gone into the 

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settings and turned off the 
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So like when you click the 
button transparency mode isn't 

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an option, it's just noise 
cancelling or adaptive. 

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Now what? 
Yep. 

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Why? 
Yeah, that's the that's the way 

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to go. 
Yeah, adaptive is literally 

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better than transparency. 
Because it's still better. 

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Because it's still blocking out 
stuff like lawn mowers, dogs 

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barking, cars driving. 
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transparency mode still caps 
those in volume, right? 

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It's not as much like it still 
lets that stuff through. 

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Yeah, the best way I can 
describe it, because I didn't 

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like the adaptive mode at first.
It was same weird, but they've, 

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I think they've tuned it since 
then to be a little better. 

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I, I think what, what I like 
about adaptive mode is it is so 

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noise cancellation cancels out 
like everything. 

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So someone like tries to talk to
you like there's traffic or 

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something like that is all 
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But with adaptive mode, it's 
like white noise and that sort 

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of thing is blocked out, but you
still hear like if someone talks

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to you, you'll just hear it come
through clearly. 

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So that's kind of nice. 
It's kind of like a balanced 

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thing. 
It's like it worked for me on my

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last flight that I took. 
The airplane noise was like 

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really wiped out pretty well, 
but I could still like hear the 

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stewardess ask me a question or 
something so. 

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Yeah, I've not tried adaptive 
mode on my Airpods Pro since it 

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came out because I tried it when
it came out and I hated it. 

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Yeah, it's. 
Changed I I turned. 

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I tried adaptive mode when it 
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it. 
I turned it off and I've gone 

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back to it in the last probably 
6 months or so and I, I like it 

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a lot. 
Like that's when I'm walking 

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around the house. 
I have adaptive mode on so 

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Danielle can still talk to me, 
but like if she's cooking 

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something or like if the 
neighbors doing something or 

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something's going on, like 
outside of that it that's still 

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being blocked out. 
Yeah, and pro tip for a our 

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future dog owner here, you 
should. 

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Spoiler alert, thanks. 
Oh dope, so. 

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It's OK. 
It's OK. 

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No, it's OK. 
I was going to, I was going to 

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get to it later, but that's OK. 
That's OK. 

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I walk the dog and one of the, I
think the default settings for 

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adaptive mode is when someone 
starts talking or you start 

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talking, it automatically dips 
whatever you're listening to. 

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Maybe it's not adaptive mode, 
it's a whole separate setting. 

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Turn that off when you're 
walking the dog, because when 

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you're going to say like, come 
on, buddy, and it's going to 

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like it, it dips everything. 
It's horrible. 

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So I say turn that off. 
Yes, yeah, it's like, it's like 

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I forget what that's called, but
I already have that off because 

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I hate that setting. 
Like I hate the whole. 

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And then there's like the 
adaptive volume thing where like

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if you start making a bunch of 
noise, like my big thing is like

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if I start taking out the trash,
like pulling the trash bag out 

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of the trash can, taking it to 
the bin, throwing it in there 

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and stuff like that, the the 
volume goes all over the place. 

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I turn that off Like I don't 
like that, but some stuff I do 

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like. 
These now mean having the 

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Airpods Max 2 now mean I have no
more Lightning devices 

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whatsoever. 
That's it. 

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These are it. 
There is no more Lightning 

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devices. 
I think maybe Danielle might 

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have a pair of Lightning Airpods
Pro 2, but that's not my 

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problem. 
That's her problem, not mine. 

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I'm just kidding. 
I've given her solutions, mostly

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just wireless charging, so no 
more Lightning devices. 

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And I feel good about that. 
Like death to Lightning. 

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Wow. 
OK. 

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Yep. 
Yeah, yeah, that's right. 

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Oh. 
Is is that the most exciting 

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thing about this product, that 
you now do not need a Lightning 

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cable? 
No. 

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Better A&C is as look I'm going 
to tell. 

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So we had that whole, I had that
whole saga of getting a new 

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roof. 
Getting a new roof was the 

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loudest. 
OK. 

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Editor Chris prepared to bleep. 
Getting a new blue roof is the 

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loudest thing that has ever I've
ever been around in my life and 

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I've grown up going to monster 
truck rallies. 

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Like getting a new roof was 
insane. 

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I still had to work while we 
were getting a new roof put on 

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air. 
Having Airpods Max were the only

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reason why I was able to was 
because of noise cancelling. 

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Now having even better noise 
cancelling, yes, yes please. 

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Now I don't expect to get a new 
roof again anytime soon, but 

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loud things happen. 
I will take better ANC. 

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Absolutely. 
Also the battery life being 

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refreshed is kind of nice. 
I was having to charge the old 

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ones quite quite often and 
having a new fresher battery is 

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is is pretty nice. 
You know, in regard to A and CI.

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Don't want to like dismiss your 
experience or whatever, but it 

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feels like I don't know how to 
feel about this because for the 

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past several years, like even 
when they first came out, the 

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Airpods Max, people were saying 
and they kept saying that it was

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among the best ANC you could get
on over ear headphones, right on

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par if not better than the 
Sony's and the Bose. 

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So how is it even better than 
that? 

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I have a hard time 
understanding. 

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So, OK, so you know when you're 
wearing them, we've all had, 

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we've all had them, we've all 
wear them. 

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And for the most part it blocks 
out everything. 

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But every once in awhile, like 
there's something really loud 

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that can still bleed through. 
Like there's something that can 

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still get through. 
This just takes that extra like 

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20-30, maybe even 50% off that 
top where it's just like it's 

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it's silent. 
It's it's truly silent, like 

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Danielle scared the again editor
crispy be a prior to bleep. 

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Danielle walked in my office and
as you can see, my desk is over 

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here for video viewers. 
The door to my office is on the 

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opposite wall. 
So if I'm facing my monitor, I 

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cannot see somebody walk in. 
Danielle scared out of me. 

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When she walked in, she like 
tapped me on the shoulder and I 

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had those on. 
I had no idea anyone had opened 

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the door and had walked in. 
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So in this room it's carpet, but
in like the hallway and living 

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room and space like that. 
We have like this linoleum 

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hardwood floor kind of thing. 
And it is so loud. 

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It's so creaky. 
I don't hear anyone walking 

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anymore. 
It's fantastic. 

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I am just when I have them on, I
am focused straight ahead. 

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There is nothing getting 
through. 

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OK, Chris, you've actually 
walked into a draft in my blog, 

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which is my #1 pet peeve from 
reviewers is when they say 

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something's perfect. 
Because if it's perfect, then 

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you don't get to be excited in a
year or two when they make it 

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better. 
If you can't acknowledge that 

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these things are wrong now, you 
can't say that they were wrong 

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before because you said today it
was perfect. 

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So what I'm saying and this is 
going into the Comfort zone 

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database is when the Airpods 3 
come out, you may not say 

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anything about the ANC. 
Because it's perfect. 

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That's that's, that's a good 
point. 

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I I actually like that now that 
I I I actually agree with your 

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point even though I I just I'm 
contradicting myself now. 

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It's easy to do because you're 
like oh this is possibly be. 

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But then like 2 years later 
we're like Oh well obviously 

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this wasn't perfect, we could 
get better. 

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And I, I would say from a 
reviewer standpoint, the that 

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situation is, oh, I have never 
perfect is I haven't everything 

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I've tried all my experiences, 
I've never tried anything that's

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better than these. 
So obviously these are perfect. 

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This is as good as they can get.
And then technology advances and

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oh, something else is going to 
it's like the M1 chip. 

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Oh, the M1 chip is perfect. 
Like it's great, great, great. 

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M1 Pro and M1 Max comes out. 
Holy crap, no, this is even 

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better. 
This is and then M2 blah, blah, 

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blah, blah blah. 
So I, I, I see where you're 

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coming from and you know what 
I'm going to try not to say that

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anymore. 
I'm going to say the ANC is very

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good and it's the best I have 
tried to this date. 

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And I have tried Sony's and I've
tried the bows before. 

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I do believe it's better because
I have tried the Sony's and it's

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not as my Sony. 
I have the Fives, whatever those

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are and the yeah, the original 
Airpods and Max are better than 

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those even I would say. 
So these are even better. 

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That's quite good. 
To be fair, I don't think I've 

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tried the Sony since the fours. 
It was the one right before they

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folded. 
I don't remember I think. 

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Before they did not fold, yeah. 
Before they didn't fold. 

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Remember that time when they 
stopped folding and then? 

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Those are these. 
Those are the fives. 

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OK, OK, so I tried the fours. 
The fours were the ones that 

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they were the last ones. 
I tried them. 

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OK, so something else I really 
like about these and it's 

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stupid. 
It's really dumb. 

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One second here, this guy right 
here. 

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This is the Apple USBC to 3.5mm 
cable. 

450
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,760
Now neon. 
You and I have had the lightning

451
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080
ones. 
You and I used the Air Pods Max 

452
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,600
for podcasting for a little 
while and I think we would both 

453
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,040
agree the lightning to 3.5mm 
cable was the worst cable ever 

454
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,080
made. 
It was the worst cable. 

455
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,800
It was super thin, it was 
fragile. 

456
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,320
My girlfriend's mom's cat ate 
those things up. 

457
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,200
I have probably bought 6 of them
over time because she kept 

458
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,160
eating them up. 
My bad, I kept leaving the door 

459
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,360
open, but whatever. 
This is the USBC version. 

460
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,640
It is a braided thicker cable. 
Much much nicer quality. 

461
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,560
Big complaint. 
Still overpriced $40 cable for 

462
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,840
this, which is stupid. 
Absolutely should not be that, 

463
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,520
but at least it's braided down. 
It's a little thicker, but it 

464
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,080
only comes in white. 
For a $550 pair of headphones 

465
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,200
and a $40 cable, they should 
have color matched these things.

466
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:57,200
Oh boy. 
Isn't it like it's a reverse 

467
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,120
deck? 
Yeah. 

468
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,040
They they have, there is a 
reason why it is somebody's 

469
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,960
taking it apart and there is a 
reason why it is so expensive. 

470
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,400
But I still think $40.00 for a 
cable that only works with $550 

471
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040
pair of headphones like you, 
you're not going to just buy 

472
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,840
this cable on its own. 
Like there's no reason to buy 

473
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,960
it. 
This cable only works with the 

474
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,160
Airpods Max, right? 
Oh, is that true? 

475
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,480
Well, I was going to say I never
used the Airpods Max to record. 

476
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,720
So I never used it with my 
Airpods Max ironically, but I 

477
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,640
did actually have the headphone 
to lightning cable, the Super 

478
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,440
thin 1 specifically for my car 
to plug my my lightning iPhone 

479
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,480
into the audio Jack because that
was I'm sure I could have gone 

480
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040
on Amazon and get something, but
I was at the Apple store, so I 

481
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,360
just got it. 
But so you may still want that 

482
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,440
if you have an older car that 
you can't do USB to connect your

483
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,400
phone might be. 
OK, OK, All right. 

484
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Interesting. 
OK, so maybe there is a reason 

485
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,800
to have this other than that, I 
I don't know. 

486
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,880
I just assumed this cable only 
worked with the Airpods Max 

487
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,400
because that's what it was 
designed for. 

488
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,040
But maybe I am wrong there. 
I shouldn't have said that, but 

489
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,160
anyways they should have color 
matched them. 

490
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,120
They should have. 
It's it's ridiculous that they 

491
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,480
didn't color match them. 
If the iMac gets color matching 

492
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480
for all of its accessories, come
on right? 

493
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,120
Come on. 
Come on. 

494
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,200
It should be in the box. 
What's that? 

495
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,160
Yes I I would agree with that. 
It should be in the box it it's 

496
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,360
especially considering one of 
the selling points of these is 

497
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,680
plug them into audio interface 
and you get lossless audio with 

498
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Apple Music. 
And also it's $550. 

499
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Yeah. 
Did you come with a USBC to USBC

500
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,640
cable though? 
Yeah, there is that. 

501
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,400
But it's weird that you like you
can't use them wired with just a

502
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,000
USBC cable. 
By the way, it is weird. 

503
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,560
It is weird, it is really weird 
that you can't just go USBC to 

504
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,960
USBC. 
Yeah, it has to be USBC to 3.5. 

505
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,800
Yeah, they they do something is 
really weird with the Airpods 

506
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Max, because it's not like they 
don't go to analog when you plug

507
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,960
them in. 
They're still digital, which 

508
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,840
means they still have to do 
conversion, signal conversion in

509
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,400
the mix. 
And This is why you end up with 

510
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
this situation. 
You can't use a regular USBC 

511
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,520
cable to use them wired, and you
have to use the fancy cable 

512
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,480
that's reverse DAC or whatever. 
Well, it's almost as bad as 

513
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Matt. 
You probably remember this, 

514
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Neil. 
I might be before your time a 

515
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,440
little bit, but maybe you 
remember this. 

516
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,400
I don't remember what you maybe 
maybe a little bit because Matt 

517
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,960
and I are old guys. 
We're we're, we're Matt and I 

518
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120
are old guys. 
Neil Leon's the youngster, the 

519
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
the young hip. 
I, I'm cool. 

520
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,080
I got. 
I got. 

521
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880
To talk about the the Walkman 
or. 

522
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,840
Or no, the iPod. 
When the iPod video came out, 

523
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,640
Apple released an RCA cable. 
So it was the IT plugged into 

524
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,720
the 3.5mm headphone cable and 
then it had the red, yellow and 

525
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,120
white RCA extensions coming out 
of it. 

526
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,680
So you can plug it in the TV. 
And at first Apple's like, yeah,

527
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000
you have to use ours. 
But what what later was the 

528
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080
turns out was Apple reversed the
signals. 

529
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,400
So the video signal, the yellow 
cable was coming out of one of 

530
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,680
the audio ports and Oh my God, 
vice versa. 

531
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,400
So you could actually use any, 
any 3.5 to RCA cable you wanted.

532
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,320
You could buy a cheap one but 
Apple was reversing them so you 

533
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,640
would buy their like $60.00 
cable or whatever it was. 

534
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Well, that's lawsuit material. 
They weren't big enough to. 

535
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,720
A a part of me just respects 
that sort of like we, we could 

536
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680
do the Super that's like the 
opposite of Apple. 

537
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,720
Like they have like, oh, we're 
going to do this like over the 

538
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,800
top. 
We're going to go, we're going 

539
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,120
to be more innovative that we 
need to, we're going to be use 

540
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,680
more components that we need to.
And this time, they're just 

541
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,880
like, what if we flip the yellow
and the red? 

542
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,360
That's literally what they did. 
Insane. 

543
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Yeah, so cuz I remember like 
wanting to do video out from my 

544
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,840
iPod video, but I couldn't 
afford the crazy cable. 

545
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600
And then I found online that's 
like, yeah, you can just take 

546
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:18,600
any 3.5 cable to RCA, reverse 
them to your TV's input, and you

547
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,080
can do video out. 
So Yep, Yep, that was the thing.

548
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,600
OK, going long on this. 
So I'm just going to wrap up a 

549
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,360
few things. 
A couple of some complaints 

550
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,240
about these that are pretty 
obvious price. 

551
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,320
It's they're too expensive. 
They still don't fold, which is 

552
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,640
ridiculous. 
To be fair. 

553
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,200
They just sit at my desk. 
I will never travel with these. 

554
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400
Airpods Pro 3 are more than 
enough for me to travel with. 

555
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,480
These are my desk headphones and
the case is ridiculous. 

556
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Oh and another reason why I did 
get these is I moved my 

557
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,880
PlayStation into here and I'm 
using this cable to plug into my

558
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,040
PlayStation controller. 
And honestly, it's just easier 

559
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,560
now to have USBC so I can charge
them anywhere. 

560
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,440
So that was kind of why I got 
them. 

561
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,760
But yeah, those are my Airpods 
Max too. 

562
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,240
Nee Leon, feel free to roast 
away. 

563
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:15,160
OK my biggest pet peeve reading 
the reviews about this pair the 

564
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,840
the new Airpods Max is how 
nobody talks about the headband 

565
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,640
because it's still atrocious And
like the headband alone. 

566
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,680
I I don't want to recommend this
to anyone at all. 

567
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960
Like it could sound like an 
absolute dream inside. 

568
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,560
I I still think it would be a 
RIP off because the headband, it

569
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,960
ages like super fast. 
If you have long hair, maybe 

570
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,800
you're, you're a bit of a sweaty
person, I don't know. 

571
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000
But as long as like even if you 
don't have long hair, but I feel

572
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,240
like long hair worsens it 
because you, you, you have 

573
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,280
products in your hair or, I 
don't know, yeah. 

574
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Or even like, yeah, even if you 
wear a hard hat or something. 

575
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Because I got the little dimple 
thing at the top of it that 

576
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,520
pokes onto it, yeah. 
Those destroy the headbands so 

577
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400
fast. 
Like I don't know any other 

578
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,360
headphones in that price range 
which has this problem. 

579
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,040
Like this is insane. 
I can't I this is my biggest pet

580
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,400
peeve and like to illustrate 
that I read the review, I think 

581
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,200
it was Cult of Mac. 
I don't remember 99 to five. 

582
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,880
I don't remember, 1 publication 
wrote at the end of the review 

583
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,960
wrote. 
So the headband still feels 

584
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320
super comfortable, but we don't 
know how they they will age. 

585
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,760
We'll see it ended like this. 
We we do know how it's going to.

586
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Age and I was like. 
What do you mean we'll see this 

587
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,480
right here, This, this, this. 
It's not focusing, but like this

588
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,400
right here, like that's how it's
going to do it. 

589
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Yes. 
We've known the issue for five 

590
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,240
years, over five years. 
And people are still wondering 

591
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,840
will this age? 
Well, yeah, no, I'm not. 

592
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Really with you, like the 
headband is not going to age 

593
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560
well on these things and they're
too expensive for the headband 

594
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080
not to age well. 
Yeah, Apple had said something 

595
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360
about like, oh, we've changed 
the headband and I could see 

596
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,960
that line, but no, they didn't. 
It's exactly. 

597
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,640
No, it's literally the same. 
So much data on this. 

598
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Yeah, this is insane. 
The second thing is, yeah, I 

599
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:27,160
think this comes back to the 
fact that I've become, I've come

600
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,160
to hate Bluetooth so much that I
just can't imagine having to 

601
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,960
deal with Apple's workarounds, 
crazy workarounds just to plug 

602
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,040
my headphones into something. 
I this, I, I hate this so much. 

603
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,560
I hate this so much that the 
future, like the for them to 

604
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,240
feel like the future, they would
have to turn into regular analog

605
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,320
headphones when you plug them in
so that they don't use 

606
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,960
batteries. 
So that like even turn off the 

607
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,840
all the smart features, like 
just plug them in their regular 

608
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,360
headphones and it's just analog 
and that's it. 

609
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,920
Yes, Sony, the Sony's do that, 
yeah. 

610
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,560
But I wear these Sony's every 
single week for an hour or like 

611
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,639
2 hours when we because of cozy 
zones. 

612
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,840
I2 hours every week. 
I literally never charge these. 

613
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Yeah, they're not on. 
They're they're just not on. 

614
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,239
They're just. 
Yeah, they're just analog. 

615
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,199
Can can I point out really 
something really funny about the

616
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,800
Airpods Max when you plug them 
in? 

617
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,320
So you have the USBC to 3.5mm 
cable, it plugs in on the right 

618
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,719
cup. 
But if you have a MacBook Pro, 

619
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,880
the 3.5mm port is on the left 
side. 

620
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,920
So that means you're going from 
your right ear to the left side 

621
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,440
of your MacBook, which means you
have a cable crossing in front 

622
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,440
of you. 
Yum. 

623
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,000
Like this? 
Nice. 

624
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,679
Let's say that's a short. 
Cable, It is a very short cable,

625
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,800
which is fine for me. 
I actually the way I'm using it,

626
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,400
I don't want a long cable, but 
it is a very short cable. 

627
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Yeah, that's it. 
I'm done. 

628
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,800
OK. 
All right. 

629
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,720
Don't buy this. 
Or do whatever you know, do what

630
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,000
you like. 
No, don't. 

631
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,080
You don't know. 
You listen to me. 

632
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440
Listen to me do. 
What you want? 

633
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,320
I have a free will. 
I bought them. 

634
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,280
Neilian is your free will now. 
Yes, my free will is. 

635
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,040
Then why? 
Then why did I buy them? 

636
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,320
Because your rogue, you didn't 
actually do it. 

637
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,160
Yeah, right. 
Yeah, these are knockoffs 

638
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:37,880
actually. 
Yep, it's where I got Danielle's

639
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,600
Gucci purse, too. 
Don't tell her I Hermes. 

640
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,320
I don't. 
I don't know. 

641
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,360
I don't know fashion brands. 
I think Gucci was the only one 

642
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,120
that I knew. 
All right, well, so that's 

643
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,400
enough of that. 
I have Airpods Max, too. 

644
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,840
I'm working on a video. 
I like them, but they're still 

645
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,440
too expensive. 
So yeah, Matt, what do you got 

646
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,800
for us this week? 
So I don't have so much an app 

647
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,440
as the concept of an app. 
And what? 

648
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Is an app. 
As as the development bug 

649
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,800
captures the Comfort Zone crew 
more and more, I wanted to talk 

650
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,520
about the adventure I'm on right
now, where I'm trying to build 

651
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,480
yet another app, this one maybe 
just for me. 

652
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,480
I think we'll see how it turns 
out, but. 

653
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,360
I want it. 
I know, I know. 

654
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,000
You showed it to me. 
You you showed it to me means 

655
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080
you. 
You legally owe it to me. 

656
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:44,600
Yeah, OK, the So what I am 
trying to do now is build a 

657
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,520
dictation app because of all the
things that have changed about 

658
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,240
how I use my computer in the 
last few years, the biggest 

659
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:55,960
change is dictation apps. 
I literally use this all day 

660
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,840
everyday. 
It is a core part of how I use 

661
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,160
my computer now. 
Like I dictate so much. 

662
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,920
And one of the annoying things 
is that Apple's built in 

663
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,720
dictation is tough to use. 
It does not do punctuation well.

664
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,320
It doesn't do proper nouns well.
It's it's a little rough. 

665
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,560
So there's all these third party
apps that do it and they use 

666
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,040
local models typically, but they
charge a subscription and it is 

667
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,240
a pretty expensive subscription 
in most cases. 

668
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:32,320
Like it's 10 to 15 bucks a 
month, which is not nothing like

669
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,040
before the days of the $20 AI 
subscriptions, like 10 bucks a 

670
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,320
month was like the ceiling for 
consumer software. 

671
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Like nobody had that. 
Nothing was more than that, 

672
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,040
right? 
Like $20.00 a month for ChatGPT 

673
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,240
Plus was crazy when they first 
announced that were like nobody 

674
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,280
does $20 subscriptions and now 
it's like 15 bucks to dictate to

675
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,320
your computer. 
Or, or a $200 AI subscription a 

676
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,760
month, Yeah. 
So I was like, there's got to be

677
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,680
a better way. 
So I was like, look, I've been 

678
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,560
building apps for the past year 
that work with dictation and 

679
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,640
text and speech to text, text to
speech, each direction. 

680
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,880
And you know, surely I could 
take these skills and put 

681
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,520
together something myself that 
runs locally that has 0 cost to 

682
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,680
me as the developer and that I 
could use myself. 

683
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
And if it's good enough, I could
release it and see if other 

684
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,440
people like it. 
And it is so hard to do this. 

685
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Well, I thought it would be 
easy. 

686
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920
I thought it would just be, oh, 
implement Apple speech engine, 

687
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200
boom, fast. 
It's on everybody's device that 

688
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440
has Apple intelligence. 
Great, lovely. 

689
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,600
No, it doesn't work that way. 
Apple Speech Engine is not good 

690
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,400
enough to do dictation because 
it's effectively what their own 

691
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,680
dictation does, right? 
Which has its own issues. 

692
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,640
So I tried using that, just 
doing raw output, and it sucked.

693
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,240
It wasn't good enough. 
So I was like, shoot, well, how 

694
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,560
do I fix this? 
And I was like, well, you have 

695
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,600
this quick notes app that has a 
clean up feature that already 

696
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000
does this. 
It does Apple's dictation, it 

697
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,040
transcribes everything, and then
you clean it up with the power 

698
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,840
of AI. 
Again, still local, still no 

699
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,760
cost to anybody, so let's try 
that. 

700
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,880
But that was too slow. 
So I was just sitting there 

701
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,440
waiting for it to transcribe and
then waiting for it to do some 

702
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,400
AI mumbo jumbo to it, and it 
wasn't even good enough. 

703
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,680
And Apple's foundation model is 
so frustrating because this is a

704
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,920
thing that I, I, I thwarted in 
quick notes, but somehow it's, I

705
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,720
literally the same instructions 
to different things here. 

706
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,240
It really wants to chat with 
you. 

707
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,080
So even though I'm like, hey, 
here's some text, you are not 

708
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,800
responding to this. 
You are not giving a response at

709
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,360
all to this. 
You are just trying to clean it 

710
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,840
up to fix things like 
punctuation and proper nouns and

711
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,160
this sort of thing. 
And very often I would just like

712
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,280
I would dictate something into 
this and I would say like, I 

713
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,920
would be like, I don't know what
I would say, it doesn't matter. 

714
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,880
But like it would return at the 
text that it would print out of 

715
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,440
my screen is the Apple 
Foundation model replying to 

716
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,200
whatever I talked into my app. 
And I was like, this sucks. 

717
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,560
It's slow and it sucks. 
What do I do next? 

718
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:19,280
So now I've implemented Whisper 
Kit, which is the GOAT when it 

719
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,200
comes to local transcription and
it's doing much better. 

720
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,960
But now. 
It's slower. 

721
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,600
And so I'm having, especially 
when you're like hold, you're 

722
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,040
like dictating for like 30 
seconds, a minute or more, like 

723
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040
it's just taking a while to 
transcribe that. 

724
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,640
And that's if you feel slow. 
So then I'm like, OK, here's 

725
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,600
what you do. 
We're going to pause on 

726
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680
silences. 
So if the, if the user pauses 

727
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,200
for more than a second without 
saying anything, we cut the 

728
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,000
audio file off. 
We transcribe that in the 

729
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,760
background and we keep recording
and every time they pause, we 

730
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,240
cut off a new sliver and we do 
this transcription. 

731
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,080
And this is working OK, but now 
there's awkward breaks because 

732
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,520
the transcription, sometimes if 
you pause in the middle of a 

733
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,600
sentence, it gets confused 
because it doesn't know where to

734
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
put the punctuation. 
So then I'm like, well, then do 

735
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,840
I do a foundation model request 
afterwards and say fix the 

736
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,200
punctuation? 
And now I'm in the same 

737
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,080
situation. 
And so this can be done. 

738
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,760
It can be done because apps do 
it, but I don't know how they do

739
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,440
it, and I'm figuring it out. 
But I'm getting closer, it's 

740
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,200
getting better, so I'm actually 
using it. 

741
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
It's getting to the point where 
I can use it for myself most of 

742
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,040
the time, so I think that's 
pretty good. 

743
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:33,080
But software development is 
hard, especially once you move 

744
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,280
beyond just displaying databases
in pretty interfaces. 

745
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,840
It's very tricky. 
And I'm doing this on a Mac. 

746
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,080
So like, it's not like a window 
in the traditional way that 

747
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,280
like, and Neil, and you're 
dealing with this with tiny 

748
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,040
start. 
It's not like, Oh yeah, window 

749
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,320
with three like traffic lights 
and tabs and views and like 

750
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,040
traditional stuff like it's, 
it's something custom. 

751
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,280
And so it lives on screen, but 
it's not a window. 

752
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,640
It feels very hacky when you do 
this. 

753
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Yeah, Yeah, you have to. 
You have, you have to create 

754
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,200
some fake stuff to make macOS 
believe that it's a window, but 

755
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,840
it's not. 
It's weird, yeah. 

756
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,840
Yeah. 
And yeah, so you have to make 

757
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,200
sure like the focus works 
because when you switch to an 

758
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,560
app window, it sets us to the 
focus, but you're not 

759
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,560
technically the focus. 
You need the focus to be the 

760
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560
thing in the background because 
for you, for the emoji picker, 

761
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,520
you need the emoji to go into 
the app, not into your window. 

762
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,240
And same with my text. 
I need to go into a thing and 

763
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,520
then yes, dealing with history. 
How what, what if it fails? 

764
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,480
Can you recover the audio? 
Do I save the audio? 

765
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,240
I don't want to save the audio 
because that's going to take up 

766
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,560
space and people are going to 
freak out. 

767
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,920
So all this is to say I'm making
progress, but it is very 

768
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,560
interesting because not 
interesting. 

769
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,560
It's, I think it's notable that 
this is not a super complicated 

770
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,800
app in the grand scheme of 
things. 

771
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,720
This is a pretty simple piece of
software, but there are so many 

772
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,440
things to consider and you don't
get it for free. 

773
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,080
You have to figure this out 
yourself. 

774
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,000
And I'm saying this as someone 
who uses Claude code for 

775
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920
basically all the code that I 
write. 

776
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Like a lot of this is happening 
in the terminal. 

777
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,880
And even then I have to go 
ahead. 

778
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,400
There's so many things to know 
about how Mac OS works, how how 

779
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,440
I want the data structure to be 
like, how I want all this to 

780
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,960
work. 
Like there's, it's not just like

781
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,280
enter a prompt, get an app. 
There's still so much to do. 

782
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:35,800
And yeah, it's, it's very fun, 
but it's very complicated as 

783
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,520
well. 
And yeah, I don't know, I just 

784
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,320
wanted to talk about it cuz 
it's, it is. 

785
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,400
I was thinking about what to 
bring this week and I was like, 

786
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,160
literally the only thing on my 
mind is how to get this stupid 

787
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,920
app working. 
This is what I'm. 

788
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,000
This is all I care about right 
now is figuring. 

789
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Out how to what you're saying 
about like the the UI part and 

790
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,560
like when you're developing an 
app that's not just, you know, 

791
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,960
sitting in a regular window, 
that's we mentioned this earlier

792
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,720
in the episode. 
That's what looking at emoji 

793
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:11,120
pickers like swift emoji pickers
on GitHub. 

794
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,360
Help me understand like the 
approaches that people are 

795
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160
taking. 
Maybe you should do that. 

796
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,320
Maybe you should look at 
projects being done like this 

797
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,560
and look at this yourself and 
just try, maybe even try to fork

798
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,200
it and modify things yourself to
see how things behave. 

799
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,880
This has this has helped me a 
lot getting started and just 

800
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,720
getting a launch on screen 
that's not stealing focus from 

801
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,120
other windows when you're using 
it. 

802
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,680
Yeah, that that was a big 
breakthrough. 

803
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,320
Yeah, yeah, I guess that that's 
really all I have to say. 

804
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,520
I, I guess the other thing that 
I keep thinking about is a year 

805
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,560
ago or almost a year ago at 
WWDC, Apple was like, we have 

806
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,520
this new transcription model and
this new foundation model. 

807
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,760
And I started working on those. 
Like the next day I started 

808
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,800
integrating with those and 
figuring out how they worked and

809
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,120
how to use them. 
And just like getting those 

810
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,680
basic skills together makes me 
think of all these other ideas. 

811
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,960
Oh, here I have this skill. 
Here's how I can use it in a 

812
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,680
different context, right? 
Because like that's what my 

813
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,200
quick notes app was, was I want 
to dictate into my iPhone and 

814
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,080
get high quality transcripts 
from it. 

815
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,840
And OK, that's great. 
But that came from quick 

816
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,600
subtitles, which was let me 
just, I have the audio file 

817
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,840
already give me the good text. 
And now I was like, what if I 

818
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,800
made the audio file in real time
and then give me good text? 

819
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,160
And now this builds on that, 
which is like on a Mac in a 

820
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,480
totally different context where 
I'm not like bringing up 

821
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,000
separate apps. 
Let me just hit a button and say

822
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,240
things. 
So anyway, it's really it's fun 

823
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,800
to see how. 
You could make. 

824
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,160
And it builds up. 
Could build like an only one, 

825
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,880
record your podcast, publish it 
and you host it yourself. 

826
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,680
So that's service. 
There you go boom, you have 

827
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,280
service revenue. 
And so yeah, it's all one thing.

828
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,760
People can dictate their 
podcast. 

829
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,320
It's all at the same time, 
recording, doing the chapters, 

830
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,640
and it also gives you a 
transcription for the episode. 

831
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,680
And then you click publish and 
it's all uploaded to your 

832
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,960
servers and into the podcast 
apps and you're welcome. 

833
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,480
This is an amazing idea. 
It doesn't. 

834
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,600
That would be so much work. 
Call me when you raise 1 billion

835
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,640
and. 
Yeah, I expect a cushy job. 

836
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,600
OK, OK. 
Makes sense? 

837
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,880
But it would like gather up all 
you've done so far, right? 

838
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,040
I know, I know This is this is a
thing that I've thought about is

839
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,120
making some sort of like 
podcaster studio app that kind 

840
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:58,440
of combines chapterization 
stuff, transcription stuff, show

841
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,120
notes, all this stuff into one 
place and. 

842
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,320
Missing the hosting part and 
you're good to go. 

843
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,440
I mean, I could figure out the 
hosting part. 

844
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,040
I am working on another app that
does web hosting. 

845
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,200
It's a web app that lives on the
web and hosts audio files for 

846
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,280
things. 
I won't say more. 

847
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:27,040
So yeah, it could be done. 
Yeah, if you think. 

848
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,920
It's amazing if. 
You feel like this is like a 

849
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,920
billion dollar idea. 
You just ask editor to cut all 

850
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,040
of this and so that you keep it 
to yourself. 

851
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,400
Well, the idea is, is is nothing
people could think about this. 

852
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,320
You just got to do it. 
OK? 

853
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000
So Ed or Chris, don't worry 
about it. 

854
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,040
OK, OK, all right. 
But if it does become a billion 

855
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:57,720
dollar thing, you know, hire me.
I'll I'll become your. 

856
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,160
You haven't. 
Said anything I should be higher

857
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,840
than this? 
I but I'll I'll make the YouTube

858
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,200
videos. 
I'll be like This is why you 

859
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:05,800
want to use. 
This. 

860
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,760
That's a good point. 
OK. 

861
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Yeah. 
You know, I'll use my influence.

862
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,600
I'll, I'll. 
Whatever little I have. 

863
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,200
I'll what can I do? 
I'll sell NFTSI don't know for 

864
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,080
you. 
No, you make the emoji picker, 

865
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:21,640
you build the emoji part of the 
dictation. 

866
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,240
So that way like like you just 
dictate what emoji you want. 

867
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
OK, well, I mean it's clear. 
OK. 

868
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:32,680
It's clear we'll all be even 
partners in this. 

869
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,040
You know Matt will do most of 
the work. 

870
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,760
We're just scamming him live. 
We're just totally leaching on 

871
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,080
to him. 
You got this, Matt, You got 

872
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,920
this. 
You got this. 

873
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,800
Our futures depend on you. 
Yeah. 

874
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,600
No pressure. 
We are on the line. 

875
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,600
I'm, I'm putting, I'm putting 
all my retirement, everything on

876
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,920
my life savings. 
I'm putting it all in on you, 

877
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,520
OK? 
Yeah, I just sent my resignation

878
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,240
so. 
Yeah, I would like to formally 

879
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:04,800
announce my retirement from 
coding. 

880
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,920
Hopefully that doesn't 
negatively impact anybody. 

881
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,320
Wait, wait, wait, what? 
I deleted my YouTube channel 

882
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,200
Matt, what do you mean? 
You keep it keeps happening. 

883
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Anyways, I I hope this does work
out for you because this is this

884
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,920
is genuinely an interesting app.
I would love to have a good 

885
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,680
local dictation app or a good, 
let me rephrase, a good 

886
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,240
dictation app that doesn't 
charge me an arm and a leg every

887
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,360
month. 
Yeah, agreed. 

888
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,720
All right. 
Should we move on to the 

889
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:37,520
challenge? 
OK. 

890
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Neil Leon, it was your 

891
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,960
challenge. 
Yes, I feel like I cheated, but 

892
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:51,360
the challenge was the prompt was
back up your entire photos 

893
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:58,320
library and the best method wins
so I can go first. 

894
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,760
So I looked at things. 
Things are expensive. 

895
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Yeah, yeah. 
Storage is a little pricey right

896
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,520
now. 
Even like even not counting the 

897
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,880
the storage like software, like 
just backup software that's 

898
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,280
dedicated to doing this, to 
backing up a photos library 

899
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:26,520
specifically, it's expensive if 
it's not subscription. 

900
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,800
Even like I found one utility 
that was one time purchase and I

901
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,000
don't know, it felt like I 
don't, I don't know the value of

902
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,920
this. 
I don't know if I should call in

903
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,760
on this anyway. 
So in the end, I cheated by 

904
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,960
going to privacy.apple.com. 
Are you aware of this trick? 

905
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,440
It's a good trick. 
Yeah. 

906
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,000
So if you go to 
privacy.apple.com, there's a 

907
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,640
section on there. 
So you have to sign in and 

908
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,520
there's a section on there. 
I'm signed out now. 

909
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,840
I can't see it properly word for
word because Apple get a copy of

910
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:09,080
your data on the web ever. 
Sorry, request Request a copy of

911
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,760
your data. 
Yes, exactly. 

912
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,040
That's the one. 
So request a copy of your data 

913
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,600
and so you click on that and you
can download everything from 

914
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,000
your Apple account and you can 
download your anti iCloud Drive 

915
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,000
if you want. 
You can download all your notes,

916
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,400
all your contacts, your calendar
stuff, all your emails. 

917
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,000
You can't download anything. 
And there's a section there for 

918
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,280
photos and there's even a 
warning there. 

919
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,200
I don't remember what it says 
specifically because now I'm 

920
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:45,440
signed out, but it says photos 
can be like very large photo 

921
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,360
like it can be very large. 
The following items may be large

922
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
and take a long time to 
download, and that includes 

923
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,720
iCloud Drive, Files, Documents, 
iCloud Mail, and iCloud Photos. 

924
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,040
Exactly. 
And so, but they have a way to 

925
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,960
deal with that that's actually 
pretty smart. 

926
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,720
So I went ahead and did that 
with photos. 

927
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:10,280
I select photo, then continue 
and there you have an option to 

928
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:16,720
split your download into 
multiple files of the same size.

929
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,800
So you can, for example, you can
cap it at 1 gigs, one or more. 

930
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:29,160
I think it's 110100I remember, 
so I went with 10. 

931
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,880
So it gave me multiple 10 GB 
files that you don't have to 

932
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,640
download simultaneously, you can
download one after the other. 

933
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,400
So that's actually pretty smart.
It was tedious but it worked. 

934
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,080
Also, where are Apple servers? 
Are they on the moon? 

935
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,120
Are they on the Artemis 2 rocket
ship or whatever? 

936
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Because the download rate it was
really bad. 

937
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,320
I don't know where the servers 
are. 

938
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,480
I'm sure it's not a server 
location thing. 

939
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,160
I'm sure it's a server data cap 
thing like like so that way 

940
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,720
you're they're not just letting 
you just bleed their bandwidth. 

941
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:07,640
Drive. 
I feel like for this purpose 

942
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,680
they should allow me to to 
download. 

943
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,600
Well, they have the warning 
there that it's going to take a 

944
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,120
while, which I, I like, I, I 
think it's fair. 

945
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,480
But I, I have a feeling they do 
this so people aren't 

946
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,960
constantly, because that's going
to cost a lot of money to 

947
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,800
download that, that amount of 
storage. 

948
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,520
So I have a feeling they're 
doing this so people don't 

949
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,360
constantly use this. 
Yeah, maybe. 

950
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:37,320
So anyway, I did this and I did 
this over 2 nights just because 

951
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,440
at some point I was like, I'm 
tired of this, sorry. 

952
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,640
I'll do, I'll do the rest 
tomorrow. 

953
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,120
And also it takes like I said, 
it takes a few hours to download

954
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,920
every time. 
So I downloaded 2 at once or 

955
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,720
three at once and then gave up 
and then started again the next 

956
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,640
day. 
Yes, there you go. 

957
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,760
I have folders upon folders of 
my entire photos library 

958
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,440
downloaded from this on my 4 
terabyte HDD. 

959
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,840
I don't know if I'll keep that, 
but I've done it. 

960
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,320
I've backed up my photos library
using using Apple's thing that 

961
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,280
they had to do because it's 
probably illegal not to do this 

962
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,080
at this year. 
It's probably more just like 

963
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,600
people are like lose their photo
library and more of a service to

964
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,400
like how many stories have you 
all heard about like person gets

965
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,520
locked out of their Apple 
account or iPhone and like their

966
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,080
photo library is gone because 
they didn't back it up or 

967
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,280
something like that. 
So yeah. 

968
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Yeah, so there you go. 
I don't know, maybe I cheated, 

969
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,720
but I like I don't know. 
I backed up my photos library in

970
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:57,000
the end and nice it for free. 
Like using the existing hard 

971
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,920
drive and using Apple's download
tool. 

972
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,760
Nice. 
How did you do, Matt? 

973
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,160
One second, I'm just actually I 
was looking up somebody for our 

974
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,560
next bit. 
I did horribly. 

975
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,960
I was like, what if? 
I mean, the answer is I want 

976
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,280
them on my Synology, which is 
already working, which didn't 

977
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,000
really fit the challenge. 
So I didn't just say I will 

978
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,600
continue to do what I've been 
doing, which I'm happy with. 

979
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,600
And So what I chose was sadness.
And I chose this via as often 

980
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,640
happens in software through 
Microsoft. 

981
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,160
And I installed OneDrive on my 
Mac and was like, I wonder if 

982
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,040
this can auto like backup my 
Apple Photos library because 

983
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,480
Google Photos does that. 
And I was like, let me see if 

984
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:57,440
that works. 
And it does, but I hate it. 

985
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,840
The interface for photos in 
OneDrive is is rough. 

986
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,760
It feels like a remnant of the 
Windows 8 era of design in that 

987
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,880
it's all just, I don't know, it 
ain't right and it just, it 

988
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,560
sucks. 
And it very quickly was like, 

989
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,960
hey buddy, you don't pay for 
storage through us. 

990
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Would you like to pay? 
And I was like, no, not at any 

991
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,760
cost. 
So I uninstalled it and then 

992
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,600
deleted all the photos. 
So I have done I'm ending the 

993
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,920
week exactly where I started but
I did backup approximately 4 1/2

994
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,440
gigabytes of photos to one drive
before deleting them, which I 

995
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,200
can confirm the upload and the 
delete functions do function so 

996
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
that's something OK. 
OK. 

997
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,520
OK. 
So because the free cap was at 

998
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,000
five, Yeah, OK. 
Yeah, I used to pay for it 

999
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,400
because I do have a Windows 
computer, but I was so angry. 

1000
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,120
I hate I do not want to pay this
so I stopped. 

1001
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,920
Yeah, who wants to give money to
Microsoft anyways? 

1002
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:08,880
Especially for OneDrive, yeah. 
All right, so like Matt, I back 

1003
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,440
up my, I already back up my 
photo library to my Nas. 

1004
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Like that's like that already 
happens through Synology. 

1005
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,760
Synology has an app that like 
syncs with Apple, the Apple 

1006
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Photos app and will copy 
everything off. 

1007
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:25,520
So I was like, OK, my, my Apple 
Photos library is already backed

1008
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,240
up, but I do have technically a 
second photos library. 

1009
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,040
I have fancy cameras and 
whenever I shoot RAW, like the 

1010
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,360
raw photos with those, I put 
them in folders in iCloud Drive.

1011
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,960
I usually what I do is I will 
date them or if it's a trip or 

1012
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,480
something, I'll label them or 
whatever. 

1013
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,960
And then I have two folders in 
there raws and then edited. 

1014
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,280
So I will backup all the raw 
photos. 

1015
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,440
So I always have the raw photos 
and then anything I edit in 

1016
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,480
Lightroom now Pixelmator photo I
will put in the edited folder. 

1017
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,040
So that stuff was being backed 
up via Time Machine cuz it was 

1018
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,720
an iCloud Drive and Time Machine
will still back that stuff up. 

1019
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,080
But what I did is I was like OK 
I have that but let's take a 

1020
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,280
look at this. 
So I went and built a Hazel 

1021
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,960
script and let me pull up Hazel 
here. 

1022
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,120
I should have already had that. 
So what it does is it watches 

1023
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,640
that folder and anytime there is
new content of any file, it 

1024
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,480
syncs this folder to a 
photography folder on an 

1025
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,200
external drive that I have. 
And I'm actually going to keep 

1026
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,760
this and I'm going to switch it 
to my Nas. 

1027
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,680
But since I already have the Nas
backup, I figured I'd do 

1028
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,880
something different for the 
challenge. 

1029
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,280
I have a bunch of other external
drives just laying around that I

1030
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,280
got pre external drive storage 
cost that skyrocketed. 

1031
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,160
I did look at a few other 
options. 

1032
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,040
I was like oh what if I bought 
like a specific navs just for 

1033
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,080
backing up photos or something. 
No storage costs are stupid 

1034
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,760
expensive. 
Not doing that right now. 

1035
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,960
So I just took an A1 TB external
drive that I have laying around.

1036
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,720
I plugged it in the back of the 
Cal digit hub. 

1037
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,160
It just sits there and anytime 
new stuff is going to be added 

1038
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,640
to that folder, it'll sync those
two folders together. 

1039
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,720
So they'll always be In Sync. 
Bye bye. 

1040
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,040
Bye, bye bye. 
No. 

1041
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:15,200
OK, so you can move. 
But yeah, so that way they will 

1042
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,440
stay In Sync and that library 
will now live in two places. 

1043
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,440
I will. 
OK, OK. 

1044
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,320
Nice, I will. 
I'm the only one that actually 

1045
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,600
made a backup thing, so. 
Yeah, I backed up something. 

1046
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,760
You went to a website. 
Which let me back up my photos 

1047
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,720
library. 
You weren't actually backing 

1048
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360
anything up, it was already 
being sent there. 

1049
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,960
I I still don't understand what 
a backup is. 

1050
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,960
Why? 
No, it's one. 

1051
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,920
No, it was not already sent 
there. 

1052
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,680
No like right now. 
Apart from this, I have no copy 

1053
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,040
of my photo library. 
You don't have it in an app 

1054
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,960
called Photos. 
Yes, but that's on iCloud Drive,

1055
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,200
Yes, and that's iCloud like. 
That's where that website you 

1056
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,560
would too pulled it from. 
Yes, but to put it on an 

1057
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,240
external drive. 
So there's a second copy now. 

1058
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,120
I backed it up. 
This is what makes me not do 

1059
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,800
backups because every time I say
oh I did a backup, a backup 

1060
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,040
person's like no you did not. 
That's not a backup. 

1061
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,920
Why is it not a backup? 
It needs to be in a bulletproof 

1062
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:27,200
fireproof casing that is kept on
the other side of the country at

1063
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,440
20,000 feet elevation. 
OK. 

1064
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Fair enough. 
No or on one drive. 

1065
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,640
No, no, do not keep your your 
backup on OneDrive. 

1066
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,360
Get it put up OneDrive. 
Oh. 

1067
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,440
That's actually a horrible name.
I guess if you want backups. 

1068
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,280
It is a terrible name. 
Yeah, I get what they were going

1069
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,480
for, but yeah. 
It's like 1 password. 

1070
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,000
Yeah, yeah, I can just use one 
password for everything. 

1071
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,120
I don't need to. 
Back up your password on a post 

1072
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,560
it note on your on your computer
monitor as well as a third place

1073
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,360
that is under lock and key. 
On one post it note. 

1074
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,200
One post it note. 
I have a tattooed on my 

1075
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,720
forehead, that's why I have to 
wear a hat. 

1076
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,760
This makes sense. 
So any time I need my password, 

1077
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,920
I look in a mirror, but then 
it's reversed so I have to look 

1078
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,320
at another mirror. 
It's like Apple's encryption 

1079
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,600
with the RCA cable. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 

1080
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,720
exactly. 
That's where I got the idea 

1081
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,360
from. 
All right. 

1082
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,400
I have no idea who won except I 
want so. 

1083
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,920
Let's move on to my challenge. 
I think you actually have a 

1084
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,760
method, so you. 
I do have a method. 

1085
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,120
Yeah, I built something. 
Yeah. 

1086
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:37,560
OK. 
All right. 

1087
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:39,640
You guys ready for the new 
challenge? 

1088
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,440
Yes. 
All right. 

1089
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,640
So as Matt said earlier in the 
episode, I'm getting a puppy in 

1090
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,520
four weeks from a couple of days
ago. 

1091
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,960
So a time you're hearing this 
probably 3 weeks now, I, I'm 

1092
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,840
getting a little puppy and we're
very, very excited. 

1093
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,040
Danielle and I have wanted a 
puppy for a really long time. 

1094
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,800
And we had some family friends 
that their dog had some puppies.

1095
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,400
I know you should spay a new to 
your dog. 

1096
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,400
That's not my dog. 
I, I look, I, I had no control 

1097
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,920
over that. 
But what I do though, is that 

1098
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,400
they were looking for people to 
adopt these puppies. 

1099
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,320
We jumped on it. 
So in a couple weeks, once 

1100
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,600
they're little bit bigger and 
kind of weaned off the mom, we 

1101
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,440
will be going and picking up a 
puppy. 

1102
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:27,560
So for the challenge, I want you
all to find some best pet tech. 

1103
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,200
Neon, you have a cat. 
Matt, you have a dog. 

1104
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,880
I technically will have both in 
a couple of weeks. 

1105
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:40,800
So find some pet tech, ideally 
something for me to order for my

1106
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,560
new puppy. 
That's who wins. 

1107
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,880
If you find something that I can
order for my new puppy that I'm 

1108
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,800
excited about and can order for,
that's who wins. 

1109
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,120
That's how we will decide the. 
Winner. 

1110
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,240
There's something I've been 
wanting to get for a cat but my 

1111
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,360
partner like vetoes it every 
time. 

1112
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,600
Now you can. 
You have to do it for your work.

1113
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,280
Yeah, yeah. 
For your work. 

1114
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,400
I can say it's for the show, 
Like, Yep, you're letting 

1115
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,200
hundreds and of thousands of 
people down, Yeah. 

1116
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,920
Yep, hundreds of thousands, yes.
Hey, if you'd like to subscribe 

1117
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,680
to or not subscribe, if you'd 
like to sponsor Comfort sound, 

1118
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,920
reach out to John Voorhees. 
But anyways, so that's the 

1119
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,600
challenge for next week. 
Find some pet tech. 

1120
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,520
Ideally, you know, if I wanna, 
if it's something I end up 

1121
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,920
ordering for my puppy, let me 
you know, that's who wins. 

1122
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,800
So, yeah, OK. 
All right, that brings us to the

1123
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,000
in the show and I have an in the
show question for the two of 

1124
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,680
you. 
What I have a question. 

1125
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,920
OK, do headphone cushions count 
as pet tech? 

1126
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,840
No. 
OK. 

1127
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,360
It's got to be something for the
animal, not something to keep 

1128
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,080
you from the. 
I mean, I guess if you want to 

1129
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,920
give it to them, chew it up I 
guess. 

1130
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,080
Hopefully it's not toxic. 
OK. 

1131
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,240
Come on, I'm bringing all the 
hits today. 

1132
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,520
Yes, that's. 
That's all right. 

1133
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,680
OK. 
So I'm going to show question 

1134
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,200
for you guys. 
And what sci-fi or fantasy world

1135
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,440
would you want to live in? 
OK. 

1136
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,200
Super easy for me, I could 
answer this right away. 

1137
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,040
Well, what's your answer? 
What's your answer? 

1138
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,720
Lord of the Rings and I want to 
live in the Shire. 

1139
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,680
I want to eat, drink and be 
merry. 

1140
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,080
OK. 
That's a good one. 

1141
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,640
I think you've asked a similar 
question in the past and I 

1142
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,040
responded with Beetlejuice and 
you were like, no, that doesn't.

1143
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,520
Count that doesn't count. 
So, Beetlejuice, I'm moving on 

1144
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:41,480
to something a little different.
I would like to live in the 

1145
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,480
Galler region. 
Oh. 

1146
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,560
What is that? 
This is from Pokémon Sword and 

1147
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Shield. 
Interesting you picked Galler. 

1148
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,320
I love that game. 
I think it's such, I think it's 

1149
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,600
just so cozy. 
It's like a British countryside.

1150
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,360
It's just, it seems nice. 
People are happy. 

1151
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,240
The biggest controversies are 
around Pokémon battles. 

1152
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,360
Like I think it'd be a chill 
place to live for a while. 

1153
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,480
And all the Pokémon battles take
place in stadiums too. 

1154
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,520
Yeah, you just go and watch. 
So it's a Pokémon? 

1155
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,360
Bite each other. 
Yep, nothing. 

1156
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,960
Nothing problematic there. 
So it's a Pokémon thing? 

1157
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,040
It's a Pokémon thing. 
Yeah, OK, I know. 

1158
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,520
What about you? 
I think my answer is also Lord 

1159
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,320
of the Rings, and mostly because
in that world they bit, they 

1160
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:39,560
were able to beat fascism. 
And that sounds like a pretty 

1161
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,120
good. 
Place you don't think Aragon 

1162
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,640
would bring a different form of 
fascism as the king? 

1163
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,600
I don't know. 
I I don't think I would like to 

1164
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,760
live in his Kingdom. 
Yeah. 

1165
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,000
Feels like too big of a place. 
It's like so bad. 

1166
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,000
I don't, I don't want to live in
the US, you know? 

1167
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,880
Too big what? 
What region would you want to 

1168
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,120
live in then? 
I don't know. 

1169
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,560
Would you want to be an elf 
maiden? 

1170
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,280
A dwarf Lord. 
The elf, sorry. 

1171
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Oh wow. 
Damn. 

1172
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,800
Through the elves. 
You want the idea of the Shire 

1173
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,360
something. 
Like that, OK, The Shire, I, you

1174
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,720
know, like you just see the 
Shire and it's like, yeah, 

1175
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,680
that's where I want to live. 
Like I want to live in the 

1176
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,000
Shire. 
Yeah, maybe I, I have a Tavern 

1177
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,600
like I'm the, I'm the manager of
the Tavern in Bree, you know? 

1178
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,200
Oh. 
OK, OK. 

1179
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,440
I manage it. 
So I don't go everyday there, 

1180
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,640
you know? 
Yeah. 

1181
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,880
Isn't Bree technically outside 
of the Shire? 

1182
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,720
Oh, it is outside, yes. 
OK, All right. 

1183
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,400
It's just. 
Just like, like Stephen Colbert 

1184
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,320
is going to listen to this and 
he was going to write and be 

1185
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,520
like, well, you said the Shire, 
but Bree is not technically in 

1186
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,040
the Shire. 
So OK, I just, I'm just fending 

1187
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,840
off the Stephen Colbert 
feedback. 

1188
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,120
OK, OK all. 
Right, cool. 

1189
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,760
All right, Thank you all so much
for listening or watching. 

1190
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,960
We have video version on YouTube
on the Mac Stories channel if 

1191
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,040
you want to check it out. 
And a huge thank you to Mac 

1192
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,240
Stories, we're at Max Stories 
Podcast. 

1193
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,440
Go check out the website, 
there's all the other writings 

1194
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,920
and podcasts, lots of stuff 
happening over there. 

1195
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,560
Thank you all, have a great day.
Oh, bye. 

1196
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,200
What are you guys doing I. 
Don't know. 

1197
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,760
All right, thumbnail.
