1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,880 Oh oh, I heard that. Oh, I heard that. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,480 Welcome to Comfort Zone, a podcast all about pushing your 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,320 hosts well outside of their comfort zone. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,079 I'm Christopher Lally and each week normally I'm joined by two 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,880 incredible Co hosts but this week not sure if Riverside 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,040 caught the pop or not but apparently it's just two old men 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 this week 'cause we'd be creaking and popping. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,320 Yeah, I made 108 good episodes without injuring myself while 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,080 podcasting, and I can't tell if that felt that hurt good or hurt 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,040 bad. And well, hopefully the Mac 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,640 stories health insurance plan covers it cause yeah, yeah, Oh 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,760 yeah. I, I felt that. 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,640 I, I really hope Riverside caught that and I can leave it 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,200 in the edit. But if it didn't, that was a, 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,400 that was a pop. And I felt it. 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Anyways, we have a show to do. And it's not about our creaking, 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,200 aging bodies. But we got some tiny topics. 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,720 Let's do them. Yes, the first one we. 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,320 Skip them is 1. There is nothing big in here, 20 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:11,600 right? There's nothing we need to talk 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,360 about. I mean we can like whatever MBT. 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Let's see what we got. Let's see what we got. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,040 Anything interesting? Let's see here, let me, let me. 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,120 I don't have my reading glasses so I don't know if I'm going to 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,600 be able to read. This Let's see here, Neil Leon 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,040 is screaming at us right now. I I believe this first one says 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:34,000 parchment is live. Oh, that's me yes, my app by the 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,160 time you were listening to this parchment is live at the time of 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,880 recording the pre-orders live, but it'll be it'll be out the 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,080 day before this episode comes out. 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,280 So yes, Parchment is live. It's my app. 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,960 I spent the last two weeks talking about it. 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,280 So I won't, I won't I won't bore you guys again, but if it 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,400 sounded interesting to you, it is live. 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,760 It is a flat $5, no subscription, no in app 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,160 purchase, no tracking data, none of that stuff. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,680 It's just there and I'm really proud of it. 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,759 It The actual shipping version should be 1.0 dot one because I 39 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:13,360 found, well, I'll get to it in my main topic, but yeah, it 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,760 it'll it, it'll be pretty cool. So yeah, parchment is life. 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,000 I'm pretty excited. Congratulations, it's very 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,800 exciting when a new one goes out. 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,520 Yeah, I know. I'm really excited. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Like I feel really proud of myself. 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Like like kind of like when I first started releasing videos 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,560 on YouTube, like you put out a video and I felt very proud of 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,600 myself for just putting one out and kind of have that feeling 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,400 again with this. So I'm I'm excited. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 That's great. Congratulations. 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,880 I, I hope it makes you a millionaire and so you don't 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,560 leave this podcast, but you just have to worry about this 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,800 podcast. Your whole life can be comfort 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,120 zone. I look, if I become a 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,600 millionaire, I, I will say we're, we are hiring an editor 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,680 and I will pay for. Oh yeah, that would actually be 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,240 a great way to use the $1,000,000. 57 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,200 Like like editor that takes care of like all the the post 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,320 production stuff. So you and I don't have anything 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,040 to do anymore. That would be cool. 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,320 That would be. Sometimes, yeah, I see these 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,960 like celebrity podcasters and they just walk into a room, they 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,200 talk for an hour or two or four, and then when they then they're 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,160 done and they just come up back a week later and do it again and 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,200 they don't worry about anything. Imagine having a team like that 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,960 behind you. Hot take, that's not real 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,240 podcasting. If you're not sweating, if 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,960 you're not dealing with CSS or the the content management 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,080 system or any of that stuff, you're not real podcasting. 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,040 If you're not logging into a Libsyn dashboard and battling 70 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,480 the user interface, are you a real podcaster? 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,720 And wondering if that schedule button is going to release 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,600 something too early. Breaking embargo end up getting 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,280 you sued. What are you even doing? 74 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Anyways, yeah, so parchment is live and yeah, go check it out, 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,760 please. I would, I would, I would love 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,280 it. But also understand if it's not 77 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,600 for you too. Totally get it. 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,680 All right, I OK, we have something. 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,640 Else in there what? Are we doing in a podcast? 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,120 In a podcast. I I might have put something in 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,760 the tiny topics that requires some intro music the. 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Browser podcast editor Chris, because the sound board isn't 83 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,440 set up for it at the moment. Oh. 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,600 OK, OK, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. OK, so it's playing right now 85 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,040 then. So a whole bunch of stuff 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,760 happened this week and I'll get into it in my main topic, but I 87 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:47,120 just wanted to say Atlas, the open AI ChatGPT browser is dead. 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,680 They killed it and with that, I think is the nail in the coffin 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,400 for a gentech browsers right. I think that's what you said. 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,600 Did you say that in a group chat? 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,160 I think you said did you say that or did Federico say that to 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,680 me? I, I had two group chats popping 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,640 off, yes, during the ChatGPT stuff. 94 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,600 And I, I don't remember who said, well, somebody I would 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 talk to yesterday said this is the nail in the coffin for 96 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,840 agentic browsers. And I agree because stuff like 97 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,720 Chrome and even Safari in the developer preview right now, but 98 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,040 it'll come to main Safari later on, has MCP and that just allows 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,240 any agent to control the browser, not a specific agent 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,680 that is built baked into that browser. 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,720 So yeah. Yeah, this is 1 I got wrong. 102 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,480 I was convinced that after all this time of Chrome being 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,320 utterly dominant every single place it's available, that the 104 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,200 only person or not or the only company who could come take the 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,040 crown to get people to shift browsers. 106 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Because people used to like we had different Kings of the Hill 107 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,720 for a while. Like there was like the net. 108 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,760 I'm not going to go all the way to the beginning of time, but 109 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 there was like Netscape and then Internet Explorer was. 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,800 You're not going to believe this. 111 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,840 Internet Explorer was great for a while and then Firefox came 112 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:12,520 and then people went to Chrome and Chrome has been like the 113 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,680 browser for a long time 20. Years, something like that, 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,080 22,007, something like that. Like and like the thing that 115 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,720 made Chrome. This is just some fun Internet 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,960 history. I don't know if you know this or 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,440 not, but the thing that made Chrome so great was the fact 118 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,600 that it did updates to the browser in the background. 119 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,920 And now they actually built that. 120 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,160 The Chrome team had built that feature before. 121 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,880 They had actually built the browser window like because like 122 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Firefox, you would open up Firefox and you get this pop up, 123 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,960 be like, oh, there's a new update you need to click. 124 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,280 And then you'd have to like install the update and wait for 125 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,080 it to install. And then you could start doing 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,760 your browsing. And with Chrome, we would just 127 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,720 install in the background and you'd open it and be like, hey, 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,560 it's up to date. It was also, and it must be 129 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,520 said, and this is probably my most controversial browser 130 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:08,080 opinion, that when Internet Explorer was, when people 131 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,080 started to move to Firefox, it was because Internet Explorer 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,120 started to really suck and people hated it. 133 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,400 And then Firefox started to suck and people hated it. 134 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,760 And Chrome again had this, these nice updates. 135 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,440 It was way faster, it was way nicer to use. 136 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,320 And you know, for most people, they don't hate Chrome. 137 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:32,360 So it's not driving people away, but I really thought ChatGPT or 138 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Open AI had a chance to do something and turns out no. 139 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,520 Chrome still wins. Yeah, yeah. 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,160 I don't, I, I don't know what to say to that other than yeah, 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,040 like you can't kill Chrome, I guess. 142 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,920 Until Chrome gets really bad I guess. 143 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Yeah, if you come for the king, you better not miss. 144 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,760 Anyway, so that was the Browser podcast. 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,360 I was your temporary host, Christopher Lawley, subbing in 146 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,600 for Neilion. Felt weird. 147 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Yeah, it did. I don't, I don't. 148 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,880 I didn't like it. I didn't like it one bit. 149 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Anyways, let's pull the RIP cord on that. 150 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,120 This week on Cozy Zone, which is our members only show, you get a 151 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,440 whole extra episode of us every single week. 152 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Some of you may be like, whoa, that's too much of you. 153 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,160 No, it's not. It's really not. 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,760 In fact, you should probably even have more of us. 155 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,280 You should be reading our blogs and our YouTube channels, and 156 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 you should be reading Neil Leon's Mastodon feed all the 157 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,480 time. Anyways, this week on Cozy Zone, 158 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,840 Neil Leon put together a quiz and tested matinee's knowledge 159 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,280 on Star Wars. And it doesn't go the way you 160 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,240 think it does, but it also goes the way you think it does. 161 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,480 And it was fantastic. But I also walked away really 162 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,520 mad. I was enraged by this one. 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,480 It was in a different universe where the coin flipped the other 164 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:58,800 way and just the order changed. Now you, you're giving it away. 165 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,040 I got to believe that. I got to believe that. 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,960 You can believe that. I'm going to believe that. 167 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,720 I'm just saying I had a chance I had. 168 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,600 A chance. I don't think I don't. 169 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,360 No, you really didn't. You really didn't. 170 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,440 We can go back to the tape, but we can. 171 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,720 I don't know anyways. I I'm the Star Wars guy. 172 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 We all know this. Look at all the Star Wars stuff 173 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,000 behind me. Matt Birchler Do we need to do 174 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,880 another quiz? No. 175 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,320 I, I, I can, I, we can find somebody right now to do a quiz. 176 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,840 I, I can get Dan Moran on the call right now. 177 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Well, maybe not right now, but I could get Dan Moran on here and 178 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,760 he could quiz us. He, he, I feel like he, he's the 179 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,800 equivalent of of my Star Wars nerdiness. 180 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,360 Oh, well, yes, that's that's fair. 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,960 You're all chasing me, which is ultimately I know all nine movie 182 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,480 titles. I know most of the main 183 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,720 characters names there's. More than 9 movies. 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,160 I know about Darth Plagueis. He was wise. 185 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,400 I'm just saying. All right, let's get in the main 186 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,840 show. You're, you're up first. 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,040 We, we, we, we, we, we got first this week. 188 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,000 What, what, what, what you got going on over there. 189 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,080 You've been doing things. You've been, you've been. 190 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,760 You've been shaking babies and kissing hands. 191 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,840 I've been shaking babies and kissing hands. 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Absolutely. I wanted to talk about my app. 193 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,480 I got jealous of Chris talking about his app and I was like, I 194 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,120 need to get in on in on this, but I wanted to talk about quick 195 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:45,120 reads, which is my read later service and I'm so happy with 196 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080 this app. It is, it is the read later app 197 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,160 I have wanted and I'm trying to make it the read later app 198 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,880 everybody wants. But even if it's not, it's, 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,560 it's, it's exactly what I want and it is just, I've said this 200 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,680 before, I'll say it again. It is so cool to be using a 201 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:07,640 thing on a daily basis and be like, I wish this worked a 202 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,760 little better and then you can just do it. 203 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 That is the beauty of being having like being a developer 204 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,760 who making your own things is like, you can, you don't have to 205 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,200 wish, you don't have to hope someone, you don't have to plead 206 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 your case with anybody. You can just be like, yeah, it'd 207 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,040 be nice if that happened and it just happens. 208 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,320 It's a it's very, very cool, but I wanted to talk about the 209 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,160 updates. I've been pushing to quick reads 210 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,880 because there are some notable updates. 211 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,640 And if you checked it out when it launched and you were like, 212 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,560 oh, it's missing these things that I really wanted. 213 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Those things are there now in most cases. 214 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:50,360 So the number one thing people ask me for early days, 215 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,960 especially in the beta, was tags. 216 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,520 You gonna do tags, You're gonna do good tags. 217 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,760 You're gonna have a page with tags. 218 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Can I organize my tags? Can I change my tags? 219 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,920 Can I bulk update tags? And my answer was no, 'cause I 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,680 hate tags. But then I realized I needed to 221 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:07,360 add that. So I've added that. 222 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,800 That was there on day one or day two or three. 223 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,120 But after that request was fulfilled, there's always, 224 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,280 there's always a new thing that everybody wants. 225 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:18,240 The biggest request. Yes. 226 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Biggest request after that was newsletters. 227 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:24,920 People wanted the ability to have their newsletters delivered 228 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,120 a quick reads and automatically appear in their reading queue. 229 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,520 And now you can. It's for Pro Pro tier only. 230 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,040 So the basic tier doesn't get this one, but Pro does. 231 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,880 And yeah, you just get a quick reads e-mail address. 232 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,040 You can sign up for whatever you want with it. 233 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,320 Every e-mail is sent through the same article parser that parses 234 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,040 it down and you get this beautiful way to read your 235 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,720 newsletters. It's, and I should also say, if 236 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,880 you ever start to get spammed because these newsletters did 237 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,800 bad things with your e-mail, you have the ability to blow it away 238 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,240 and start a new one. So you can do that as well. 239 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,080 But this works really great. It's really nice. 240 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,800 I've set it up for a couple of my newsletters and it is it's 241 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,320 very nice to just have them magically appear in there. 242 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,280 I I haven't had a chance to do it, but this right here got me 243 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:24,600 to or is going to get me to upgrade to the pro tier or the 244 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,280 the what? Wait, the pro tier, right? 245 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Did I say that? Right. 246 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,680 OK, all right, all right. You know, these people in their 247 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,240 tiers, they got to name them something else, you know, like, 248 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,880 and it's like this is the pro and the plus and the Max and the 249 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,960 and the minimum and the subtraction and the division and 250 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,520 the multiplication. It's all of these like things. 251 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,320 All of these things. But there's more. 252 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:56,000 I've also also added RSS feeds, so you can add your RSS feeds. 253 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,480 It is not an RSS reader. It is not meant to replace an 254 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,960 RSS reader. But if there's some blogs you 255 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,720 follow where you just know you're going to save everything 256 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,240 they write, maybe it's someone like a John Syracusa who writes 257 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,280 one to three articles a year. You can just subscribe to his 258 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:19,480 RSS feed and they'll just appear automatically in your reading 259 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,640 queue. So great. 260 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Lovely. That has proven to be 261 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,720 surprisingly popular since I launched it. 262 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,880 So yeah, that's very nice. And when you add a feed, you can 263 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,800 auto tag them. So if you want to auto tag them 264 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,640 as something, I have mine tagged as RSS so that when I see things 265 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,360 in my queue and I'm like, how the heck did that get there? 266 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 I didn't say that I know where where it came from. 267 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,400 So that's cool and then this is the one. 268 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,320 This one is probably out by the time this episode airs. 269 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:59,000 This is a new feature. So I you want to save links, 270 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,960 right? You want to read them, but you 271 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,920 don't always want to read them. Sometimes they're just links to 272 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,200 things you want to get back to. I get this a lot when I come 273 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,800 across like developer tools or like NPM packages for things 274 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,240 that I may want to use in my projects. 275 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,080 And I don't want to read those pages. 276 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,480 They're GitHub links or they're like developer showcase pages. 277 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,600 So they're not to read, but I do want to save them. 278 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:30,440 So do I save them to reminders or like things or do I get like 279 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,880 a raindrop subscription as well to go along? 280 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,560 What do I do? And so I was like, here's what 281 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,160 you do. Quick reads either now or soon 282 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:47,360 has or will have A to do's section where you can save links 283 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:54,080 as to do's rather than articles. And so this saves them 284 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,960 structurally they are just articles because for backwards 285 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:03,160 compatibility and support for like my own app to make sure I 286 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,080 don't break things, they're just articles with different tags. 287 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,840 You can see how it works in the API, but basically they present 288 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,400 on a second view in the interface, whether it's the app 289 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,600 or the web interface. And they have nice little 290 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,800 circles that you can check off. There's a delightful animation 291 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,960 that plays and everything and it's just very fun. 292 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,160 So I have a new to do section for saving the things that 293 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,400 aren't for reading, but you do want to save for later and you 294 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,520 don't really know what to do with them. 295 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,760 And with these, you can actually give them a title as well. 296 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,480 So it'll automatically pull the website title, but if it's like 297 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,400 download this when you get home, you can title it, download this 298 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,360 when you get home. So I'm very excited about that 299 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,680 and I don't think any of the other kind of read later apps 300 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,960 out there have something like this. 301 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,440 So I think this is relatively new. 302 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,240 You you either have to kind of like force it and like it's kind 303 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,120 of janky or you have to use something like raindrop dot IO, 304 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,920 which then you lose the read it later. 305 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:06,440 Nice layout section that you have in quick reads. 306 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,000 So that's fantastic. Thank you. 307 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,200 This is this. This is something that I wanted, 308 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,720 but I didn't. I didn't bother asking you 309 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,960 because I didn't think you would do it. 310 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:15,920 I didn't think I would do it either. 311 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,160 I really wanted to focus on the reading experience. 312 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,280 I told you, I think you asked about this like early on, you 313 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,480 were like, is this going to be like a full raindrop 314 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,520 replacement? Or you could. 315 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,319 And I was like, no, I cannot do that. 316 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,800 I cannot do. I'm not going to like store like 317 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,120 archives of other of websites or anything for, for folks like 318 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,640 that's going to eat up so much storage and that's going to add 319 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,560 cost And it's a whole diversion. But I kept finding myself in the 320 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,320 situation where I was saving these things that weren't 321 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,560 articles and I didn't know what the heck to do with them. 322 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,440 And so I just solve my own problem I guess. 323 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Nice nice. Is this a pro tier feature as 324 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,040 well or is this all the tiers? I think it's all the tiers. 325 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:02,720 All the tiers, OK, and I'll rapid fire through the rest 326 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,000 because the to do's are the big newsletters RSS and to Do's are 327 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,040 kind of the big ones. But I will not be stopped. 328 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,440 There are more features, so I also added after This is a 329 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,160 reader suggestion. So user kind of emailed me and 330 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,920 was like, hey, did you know that Feedbin and some of these other 331 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:24,040 like services lets you do custom share options where you can just 332 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,760 like they've got like you're reading Feedbin, you have an 333 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,440 article pulled up, they have a native send to Instapaper send. 334 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,680 To. Whatever. 335 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,480 But they also have a custom option and so if you have a URL 336 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,600 that you can pass in a URL to, you can add custom ones. 337 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,840 And so I created a save from anywhere feature which basically 338 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,840 just lets you in a service like Feedbin, enter a quick reads URL 339 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,520 with their URL variable at as a part of it. 340 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,240 And that will make it so that if you're in the Feedbin interface, 341 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,040 you can have a native save to quick reads button. 342 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,000 I should just reach out to them and say you should add support 343 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,560 for me. But in the meantime, you can 344 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,040 just do that and it works great. And you can use it in other 345 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,120 places such as IOA shortcuts, which may become relevant later 346 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:19,200 in this episode. There's been a few updates as 347 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,480 well. Just quality of life things. 348 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,800 You can upload PDFs. This was the thing I found 349 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,280 myself needing and was like, shoot, I should add PDFs. 350 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,040 And so it does OCR and those and pulls all the text. 351 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,400 So it's searchable. It does not do any sort of reef 352 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,200 flow of the, the data in the PDF. 353 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,520 You're just going to see the PDF, but it's searchable and all 354 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,560 that stuff. So that's there. 355 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,160 I've updated social posts. So from day one you've, if you 356 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,480 save a post from Mastodon Blue Sky threads or even X, it will 357 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,600 parse them nicely and save them lovely. 358 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,160 I also do some logic there where if the post has a link in it, I 359 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,640 kind of assume you want to save the link that's what you were 360 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,120 saving and so I'll actually save the link as well as a read later 361 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:04,200 thing. Nice, that's a nice touch. 362 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Yeah, you could. There's also a way to connect to 363 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,920 your Mastodon and Blue Sky account, so when you bookmark a 364 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,160 post, it will automatically pull that in to your readlete reading 365 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,320 queue. And they also threads. 366 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,120 If there's threads with like 20 posts, it turns them into just 367 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,840 one article for you. And the final feature that is 368 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,680 for me is called preload audio because I listen to so many 369 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,320 articles. That's my, that's my favorite 370 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,800 way to read. I read them in the web app, but 371 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,560 I also, and then on the iOS app, but I also like to listen while 372 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,040 I'm walking the dog or doing a workout. 373 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,760 And one of the issues you can run into is that it takes a 374 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,080 while to generate audio. Doesn't take long to download. 375 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,480 It takes a while to generate it. And so I've tried to make it as 376 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,080 low latency as possible by chunking the text and 377 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,920 everything. So it's kind of doing a bunch of 378 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,160 jobs in order, but that's still not enough sometimes. 379 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,480 And So what I've added is in the web UI only so far, if you click 380 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,560 on an article, you can go to a preload audio option which will 381 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,240 generate the audio for you so that when you're ready to listen 382 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,080 to it, it's already there and you don't need to wait for the 383 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,560 text to speech provider to generate it. 384 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:24,080 So these are all little things that I did for myself and I hope 385 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,000 other people like. But yeah, quite a few things 386 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,480 have been added to the service since then. 387 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760 I didn't even talk about. I redesigned the highlights 388 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,440 page. The tags are delightful. 389 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,640 Yeah, you're in. Reading has gotten more 390 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,400 features. Slowly fantastic. 391 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,800 This, this is everything I want from like a read it later 392 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,200 service like you like I'm going to go cancel my raindrop dot IO 393 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,200 and like I'm going all in on quick reads. 394 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,880 This is this is everything I want because I like raindrop dot 395 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,000 IO but it's app is not great. Like it is not a great app 396 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,120 experience. I think they're much more 397 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:05,480 focused on the web than they are like apps. 398 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,280 And I miss having like a read it later style page where like the 399 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,160 article is loaded in there and stuff like that. 400 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,840 And I actually, I know when you originally launched this, I said 401 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,360 I wasn't a big like text to speech blog person, but I had an 402 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:22,600 article the other day that I was wrong. 403 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,960 I was walking rightly. And I was like, man, I would 404 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,480 have loved to been able to read this article while walking 405 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,400 rightly. And I was like, wait a second. 406 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,040 I could have, yeah. There you go. 407 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,160 It's a, it's a, it's a thing walking the dog. 408 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,280 That is, that is your podcast time. 409 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,080 That is your text to speech time. 410 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. Yep. 411 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,480 Yeah, she has all of her shots now, so I can, I can finally, 412 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,800 like, start doing like, big walks with her and stuff. 413 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,000 So yeah. Except she's a golden retriever, 414 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600 so she gets like it. When she gets to the point where 415 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,240 she's done, she just stops and lays down and I have to carry 416 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,560 her the rest of the way. And she's almost 40 lbs now. 417 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,280 That's not fun. Mine does that too in the heat 418 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,760 and but he's 11 lbs. Little easier. 419 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,600 Yeah. Well, this is fantastic. 420 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Congratulations. This is this is some big updates 421 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,720 here. I'm I'm glad to see this stuff 422 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,160 is here and this is fantastic. Yeah, and thank you for 423 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,160 mentioning it when you were featured in installer a few 424 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,960 weeks ago. I definitely saw a bump after 425 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000 that. And then the newsletters and RSS 426 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,800 feeds led to a second bump. So I guess if you give the 427 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,800 people what they want, they will come. 428 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Yeah, I mean, I've basically implemented every feature 429 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080 request in Parchment except Neon's make the orange theme the 430 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,480 default and out of now that's just out of spite. 431 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,800 I'm kidding Neon. I'm kidding. 432 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,200 I I do feel the people want the blue theme as the default. 433 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,480 No one's written in to tell me otherwise, so. 434 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,720 OK, let me open up my alt account and get the feedback 435 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,600 flow and. All right, well, I have a 436 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,600 classic all the small things topic for you. 437 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,080 I I I got like a few, like I got a bunch of little grab bag items 438 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,240 and I'm rapid fire through some of these and then some of these. 439 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,360 I think we can we'll probably have a discussion on. 440 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:20,400 But the first is there was a Final Cut Pro update. 441 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640 Was it this week? No, it was by the time you're 442 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,120 listening to this, it would have been last week. 443 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,360 OK, whatever, it doesn't matter. I really get hung up on that. 444 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,240 Like that really breaks my brain. 445 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,360 You really do. I think you need to. 446 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,680 You need to just like eject this from your brain. 447 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,040 I can't. It really seems to break you. 448 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,480 I can't. It's just, yeah, it breaks me. 449 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,560 I can't do. Anyways. 450 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,080 Anyway, there's a couple of new features and final cut that I 451 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,160 think are really interesting. There's no proper live caption. 452 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,600 So previously they had support for like closed captions, but it 453 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,600 was like baked into the video. You couldn't change the font, 454 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,040 you couldn't change anything about it. 455 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,520 They were not good. Now they have proper live 456 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,040 captions that you see on like TikTok or Instagram or something 457 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,040 like that, where it's going through and giving you proper 458 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560 captions. You can change the font, you can 459 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,280 change the size, you can change the animation style, you can 460 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,240 change the timing, you can change just about everything 461 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,120 related to it. They're really good. 462 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:20,840 They're on the Mac and the iPad, which I appreciate a Mac only 463 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,040 feature is there is now auto masking. 464 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,920 So if you're color grading and you're like, hey, you know this 465 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,520 I'm I'm filming a person and they're standing in front of a 466 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,720 car, but the person is lit correctly, but the car is not in 467 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,600 the car is a little too dark. You can auto mask the car now 468 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,400 and you can light it up and it'll create a mask around that 469 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,920 car for every single frame of that clip. 470 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,000 So if the car is moving, that mask moves with it, which is 471 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,680 really nice. Or if like you want to do the 472 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,440 person, the person moves with it or if you wanted it's, it's a 473 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,880 really nice feature. That's something I know. 474 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 I wish they would bring these features to the iPad as well. 475 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:04,240 It it really shows that like Apple does think of the Final 476 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Cut Pro for the iPad as Final Cut light and not Final Cut Pro. 477 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,360 Yeah, it it does. It kills me a little bit. 478 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,480 It's like Final Cut Express back back when there was Final Cut 479 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,160 Pro and Final Cut Express. That's actually a really good 480 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,040 way of putting it, which is a bummer, but yeah. 481 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,440 As someone who learned on Final Cut Express. 482 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Same. That's fine, you know, inside, 483 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:33,960 but yeah, but that's really cool. 484 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,200 The the auto caption thing is, is really, really nice because I 485 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,040 remember I don't really have A use for that myself with the 486 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,640 sort of stuff that I make. But like I was kind of 487 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,040 interested in it and then when I saw how it was initially 488 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,160 implemented where like you said, it was just like here it is. 489 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,080 Yeah, it's it was closed captions is what like classic TV 490 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,640 closed captions kind of thing? Yeah, but now it's like the 491 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,960 stylized stuff that you get in like those apps, like. 492 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Like captions, is that what? Yeah. 493 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600 Or there's something that everybody uses Cap cut. 494 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,920 Cap cut. OK, that too, Cap. 495 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,280 Cut or the Instagram Edits app or even like the TikTok app or 496 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,880 something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 497 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,760 So yeah, that, that that's pretty. 498 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,440 There's some other stuff in there as well. 499 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240 There's some logic changes. They're also baking Final or 500 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Pixelmator Pro into the apps a little bit better. 501 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,360 So that way, like you can take a frame right from Final Cut and 502 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,440 send it to Pixelmator Pro so you can do thumbnails and stuff like 503 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,800 that. Kind of cool. 504 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,440 But interesting, OK. The other big thing that 505 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:46,080 happened this week is Open AI released GPT 5.6 and this was 506 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,080 kind of what I was talking about. 507 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,800 I was, I was in a group chat with John and Federico yesterday 508 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,480 and we were playing around with it and it's very impressive. 509 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,520 Sorry, nearly. We're going to talk about AI 510 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,760 stuff for a bit, but it is insane. 511 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,920 So there's three tiers of it now. 512 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,040 There is, there is Soul, Terra and Luna and I hate the names 513 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,240 because I always have to stop and think about them for a 514 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480 second. But Soul is the sun, Terra is 515 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,360 earth, Luna is the moon, and so sun is the biggest most complex 516 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,160 like goes the hardest 1. Terra is supposed to be about 517 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,000 the same as GPT 5.5 but about half the cost and Luna is 518 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,200 supposed to be the fastest and cheapest model they've ever done 519 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,960 while still being pretty like pretty good. 520 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,640 Like it's pretty good. I have found myself just pretty 521 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,760 much using soul for development stuff and Luna for like everyday 522 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,440 task and stuff like that and like that seems to be a good 523 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280 balance so it doesn't eat up my usage. 524 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,760 But going into it, I knew it was going to be released on Thursday 525 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,640 and I I've been so I've been working on parchment and I was 526 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,400 like, OK, I want to test this. I want to see if it actually is 527 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,520 that different from 5.5 S The morning 5.6 came out before it 528 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,800 was out, I prompted 5.5 with like this like like 2 paragraphs 529 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,960 of like basically TLDR find bugs, security and performance 530 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,760 issues. But like it was, it was a little 531 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,320 more detailed at that. And 5.5 came back with nothing. 532 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,440 It was like, Nope, you're good. I was like, wow, OK, that's 533 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,800 weird. Interesting. 534 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640 And I, I've been kind of doing that along the way throughout 535 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Parchment, so it's not entirely like surprising, but I was a 536 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,000 little surprised it didn't find anything. 5.6 came up. 537 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,480 I turn on Soul, I turn it up to the maximum, and it came back 538 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,440 with eight critical bugs and eight performance bugs. 539 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,000 And so I just let it go at it. I let it fix those. 540 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,720 And then let me tell you something, the app feels so much 541 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,920 snappier afterwards. You might even think it's 542 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Safari. But yeah, it's I, I was very 543 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560 impressed with 5.6. Hang on one second. 544 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Sorry about that. I knocked the power brick out. 545 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,240 That is keeping my camera on. Yeah. 546 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Yeah, that's a little important. I also took 5.6 and I pointed it 547 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400 at Balance Audio. Now Balance Audio is the first 548 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680 made of native Mac App that I made. 549 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,400 And because it was the first native Mac App that I made, I 550 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,960 made a lot of mistakes with it as well because there was a lot 551 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,080 of stuff I just didn't know. So I pointed it at it and it 552 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,080 basically came back and said, yeah, this sucks, let me fix 553 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480 this for you. It took, it was just under 30 554 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720 minutes. It was like 29 minutes and like 555 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,920 40 something seconds at that and it basically rebuilt it and went 556 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,200 through like 2400. It deleted 2400 lines of code. 557 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,560 No, I'm sorry I got this backwards. 558 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,120 It deleted 1900 lines of code and added 2400 lines of code and 559 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,400 like it just completely cleaned up the app and it is so much 560 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,840 faster and so much smoother now and is a much better native Mac 561 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600 citizen. So I was very impressed with 562 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,160 this. I, I've been burning through 563 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,120 tokens like nobody's business. Luckily they keep giving me 564 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,680 resets. So I'm like, yeah, but anyway, 565 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800 so I'm really impressed with 5.6. 566 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,640 I think it's a really good model. 567 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,000 I'm not some AI researcher or like influencer or something 568 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,720 like that. I don't, I, I'm not going to sit 569 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,720 here and tell you all the benchmarks and stuff like that, 570 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,120 but for my use cases, it's very impressive and I'm, I'm very 571 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,400 impressed by it. That being said, open AI still 572 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,640 not a great company and I don't like Sam Altman. 573 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,120 So yes, I'm very conflicted. I have very major issues with 574 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,600 all of this stuff and I, I don't know how to resolve that. 575 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,200 I, I, I really don't, I can't bury my head in the sand from 576 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:58,720 it, but I also, I, I don't know, I don't know, look, I feel bad 577 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,560 for using it, but I'm still using it. 578 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760 So I don't know. I don't know what I don't know. 579 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Yeah, nice. Well, I, I have not used any of 580 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,320 the new chat. I don't use ChatGPT almost ever. 581 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:17,200 So this is all weird to me. Although I heard they updated 582 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 their their Mac App and people hate it. 583 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,920 I'm sure we'll get I'm sure we'll get to that. 584 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,360 I think it is notable and interesting that they have 585 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,440 adopted the Opus Sauna Taiku naming structure that Anthropic 586 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,160 has had for a while. Interesting. 587 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,560 But I, I do think you hit on an interesting thing, which is in a 588 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,960 world where we lean heavily on these AI coding agents to help 589 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:53,560 us make software because we are so early in it and it change and 590 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,240 it is getting notably better. And I think this is a thing that 591 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,120 like if you use these chat bots as chat bots, then they maybe 592 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,600 feel like they're kind of not changing much and they're kind 593 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,200 of just whatever. It's been the same. 594 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,880 And honestly, I think like the Luna and like Haiku models and 595 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160 even Apple's like basically they're on device model is good 596 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,680 enough for a lot of things people do with AI. 597 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,960 But these high end models, encoding tasks specifically with 598 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,400 coding harnesses like cloud code, like open code, like 599 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Codex, their world's better, like remarkably better than they 600 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,040 were a year ago. And six months ago even. 601 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,760 And so if you are experiencing that, you may be look at other 602 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,360 people who are like, what's the big deal? 603 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,040 And be like, what are you talking about? 604 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,000 It's enormous what these things can do now. 605 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,280 And it's just, I think we live in different realities where 606 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,600 we're not using the same things. But I digress. 607 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,400 I'm going through some of this with my quick reviews app, which 608 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 was my first app I released a year and a half ago. 609 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:03,960 And that app was built with cursor and Sonnet 3.5. 610 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,719 So a lot of the stuff there is it was a very different 611 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520 development process back then. And like it was much more like 612 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,360 write a function that does this, oh God, you crashed everything. 613 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,600 Here's how to fix it. Like it was a very different 614 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,320 world. And like right now we're like, 615 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,960 I've had the same experience where I've like said, here's the 616 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,760 functionality, here's what I needed to do. 617 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,360 And it will like look at the code base and like say, OK, 618 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,960 here's how it works. Here's how things should work. 619 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,040 Let's ask some clarifying questions. 620 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,560 And then it goes and works for an hour and a half and then it's 621 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,320 done. Like it is very, very different. 622 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,120 But I am going through the quick reads or quick reviews source 623 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,159 code and like figuring out how to make it better. 624 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:51,840 And I'm doing this with Fable 5 and it is, it is a very good 625 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,719 partner in figuring out how to make this stuff better. 626 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,480 So I'm working on a three dot O of that because like you said, 627 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,760 it looks at the code and it's like, whoa, buddy, what happened 628 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,280 here? It was functional and it worked 629 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,920 and it's like, it's fine. But yeah, now they can do much 630 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,680 more and they can be cleaner. I don't know if you ever ran 631 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,440 into this when you've been building in codecs. 632 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,320 One of the things that was a huge issue like last year was 633 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,920 you would like do all these coding changes and it would 634 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,640 stick all the changes in one file. 635 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,960 So Xcode would yell at you and say it can't, what is it? 636 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,560 What is this? I can't, you know, I can't do 637 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,360 this. I can't do this thing within a 638 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,320 reasonable amount of time. Simplify the code or something. 639 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,440 Yep, Yep. Yep, Yep, Yep. 640 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,560 I got that all the time. So that that that's what 641 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,320 happened with balance audio is when I cuz so balance audio, I 642 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,000 didn't write any code for that. Like I didn't write. 643 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,800 I just, I was like, we're going to let Codex do its thing. 644 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,680 Like it was a pretty simple app. It like I talked about, it's a 645 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,760 front end for FFM peg. Like it's not like it's, there's 646 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,040 really not much to it. It wrote everything in a single 647 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,000 dot swift file. It put everything. 648 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,640 And when I, when I put 5.6 on that, it went, why is it like 649 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,200 this? OK, hang on, we're going to fix 650 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,040 this. And that's, that's a big thing 651 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,680 that I did. One thing I do want to point 652 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,320 out. So I talked about how it found 653 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,240 eight critical bugs and eight performance bugs in parchment. 654 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,320 Those like what it came back with was really niche stuff. 655 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,000 Like it was very specific like workflow, like if you do this, 656 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,960 this, this and this, OK, the app is going to crash. 657 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,800 Or if you do this, this, this, like it, like one thing it found 658 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,960 was like if you use the Apple Pencil and you draw and you draw 659 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,800 over this area a certain amount of times, it's going to end up 660 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,840 duplicating this thing and it's going to cause all these weird 661 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,800 issues. It's something that I would have 662 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,680 never been able to figure out on my own. 663 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,560 I think Marco Armament just talked about how he pointed 664 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,840 Claude at Overcast and was like, I've had these bugs for years, I 665 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,280 can't find them. And Claude came back and was 666 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,920 like, Yep, Nope, found them. Here you go, here's the fixes, 667 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,800 here's how you do it. So like, I think these are 668 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,320 really great assistant tools like Parchment. 669 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,320 For me, I still feel like I am the primary developer of 670 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,040 Parchment, whereas Balance Audio Codex was the primary developer. 671 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,600 I feel like I'm the primary developer of parchment and Codex 672 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080 is my assistant here. And I think that's, that's 673 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,560 probably the healthy tool, healthy way of doing it. 674 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,960 But oh, I feel like you might disagree with me. 675 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,960 No, I don't disagree with you. I have. 676 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,480 I have. I've had a thought that I feel 677 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,000 stronger about, which is that all coding languages are 678 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840 abstractions. Like at the end of the day, it's 679 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,080 ones and zeros flipping back and forth And we have there's 680 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,400 there's like that's like binary, there's machine code that kind 681 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,760 of tries to abstract it a little bit. 682 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,360 There's like C, there's C++, there's objective C, there's 683 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,840 Swift. Like all of these things are 684 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080 abstracting more and more of it away so that you can write more 685 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,640 human readable, easy to learn and understand code. 686 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,720 And I kind of think that even though it's non deterministic, 687 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,440 like working with these coding agents is kind of an just a new 688 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,680 level of, of abstraction on top of it. 689 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,840 So I feel like if you're, if you're vibe coding where you 690 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040 just like have a chat window on like one side and you just have 691 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,000 the web app loaded and you have no idea what's going on, maybe 692 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,160 that's not exactly the same thing. 693 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,560 But like, I feel very much like a real regular developer when 694 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520 I'm working with these things. Yeah. 695 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,280 So for me, like I have codecs open, but I also have Xcode open 696 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:56,560 and I, I'm, I'm working in both. So I, you know, I'm not trying 697 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,920 to gatekeeper, tell people what they are. 698 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,760 They're not. That's more just like kind of my 699 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,920 gut feeling like, like I said, like balance audio. 700 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,520 I don't feel like I'm the developer of it. 701 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,960 I feel like I just natural language and put my way through 702 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,840 that thing. Yeah. 703 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,680 And that's fine because that wasn't, that's not an app that's 704 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,480 going to be sold or like, like if you join my Patreon, you get 705 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,200 access to it. But like, it's not something 706 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,840 like it was. It was really just a tool for me 707 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:28,480 because I had a problem. I think my bigger thing is if 708 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,000 you think this is not development, then you just don't 709 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,880 think development exists anymore because. 710 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,520 I think this is. What's going to this is it is 711 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,920 not, I think, a flash in the pan. 712 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,760 I think this is what development looks like. 713 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,680 It's, no, it's just like when we move from punch cards, like like 714 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,880 that was before our time, but like there was a time in human 715 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,680 history where development meant you took paper and you punched 716 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,680 holes in the card and that's, that's, that's how you told the 717 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,440 computer what to do. Yeah, it wasn't too long ago 718 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,160 that iOS developers had to manage their own memory and 719 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,040 release it on like, you know, Swift abstracts a ton as well. 720 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,840 Yeah, I think, I think we this, I think this is a new era of 721 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680 abstraction. And I will say another thing, 722 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,720 one of the reasons why you are so like locked into Codex and 723 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,880 I'm so locked into Cloud Code is like while the LLMS are 724 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,600 randomizers, whatever, they are very consistent in how they 725 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,000 behave. So I know when I enter something 726 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,080 into Cloud code, I know what it's going to do. 727 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,640 It's very dependable. And that that was another reason 728 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,840 I I've talked about why I switched to codecs a while ago 729 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,560 because I was using cloud for a long time. 730 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,600 But when I started doing development, I felt like the way 731 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:53,320 I spoke to codecs, it understood me better than the way I spoke 732 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,920 to Claude. Does that make any sense? 733 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,760 It makes total sense. I I've used codecs a couple 734 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,840 times and I'm like, what are you doing, buddy? 735 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,440 That's not what I would do. So yeah, it's not that it's 736 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,240 worse. Like obviously 5-6 especially is 737 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,800 sounds like a great model, but yeah, it's, it's weird. 738 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,640 We live in interesting times. Yeah, it, it is. 739 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,520 Yeah, I do want to briefly chat about the new ChatGPT app. 740 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,240 So they basically they took the Codex app and the ChatGPT app, 741 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:30,000 they put them in a room, they put on some Bow Wow Wow, wow, 742 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,800 wow music. And then like nine months later 743 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,480 out came this new ChatGPT app, which is Codex and ChatGPT and 744 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,920 one, and people are having a field day over it. 745 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,200 I don't get it. I freaking love it. 746 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,320 I love it. It makes the IT makes. 747 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,880 Is the chat there? I guess the chat is so the chat 748 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,400 is No, the chat is there. It's just, it's, it's not the 749 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,120 primary focus, it's, it's like a little popover window, which I 750 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,760 think makes total sense. OK, let's let's big picture this 751 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,040 for a second. Google and Apple are going to 752 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,760 take the main user AI field like you're going to have built in 753 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:16,440 AI, be able to query AI stuff in your OS that you're using, 754 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,880 whether you're using iOS, Mac OS, Android, the Chrome OS, or 755 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080 like whatever they're doing on Chromebooks or stuff over there. 756 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,800 There is going to be system level chat bots that you can 757 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,000 just chat with and ask questions and get returned. 758 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,440 So companies like Claude or Anthropic and Open AI and stuff 759 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,680 like that, they are going to lose that base right there of 760 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,000 like the normal people of like, hey, what are the restaurants 761 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,840 around me? I'm staying in this hotel. 762 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,440 I need stuff that's in walking distance, that kind of stuff. 763 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,080 They're going to lose that base right there. 764 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960 What they're going to keep is all the people that are focused 765 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,680 on productivity and coding. So the fact that the app is 766 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,400 shifting more towards the productivity and coding side 767 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,600 thing, I think makes sense to me. 768 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,040 Chat is still there. There's a keyboard shortcut. 769 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,160 You can hit command option N and you can just type in. 770 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,400 You can chat right with it. It's great. 771 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,640 It's still there. It's great for asking those one 772 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,120 off questions and things like that. 773 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,400 But basically the way the way to think about it is your 774 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,200 productivity and like coding stuff is file 1st and that's the 775 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,440 kind of thing, whereas just asking like chat questions is 776 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,680 web first. So that's just kind of like off 777 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,680 to the side, a smaller thing. I love it. 778 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,360 I think people just need to get used to it. 779 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,280 I think the whole people don't like change and they just like, 780 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,560 what do you mean? Like I like, I downloaded and 781 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,240 I'm like, this makes sense to me immediately. 782 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,280 I get it. The one thing that's not there 783 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,840 right now is the ChatGPT projects feature, Codex projects 784 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,680 are there, but the ChatGPT projects, which is also like 785 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,360 cloud projects, those aren't there right now. 786 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,120 But apparently somebody from Open AI said those are coming. 787 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,280 So yeah. Interesting. 788 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,160 OK, like I said, I haven't used it, but I have not heard a 789 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,680 single person say they like it outside developers. 790 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,520 If you're a developer who used Codex already, it seems like you 791 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,440 like it. But I guess it's kind of, I 792 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,560 guess the, the feeling I've gotten from folks is that, oh, 793 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,400 you're making us all use the developer app now. 794 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,680 I see. I have. 795 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,120 I have a feeling that the people that are just using ChatGPT 796 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,120 regular ChatGPT are probably using it on the web and not 797 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,920 using it in the app. Well, this is the thing as well. 798 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,760 This is I think we overestimate how many people use Mac apps. 799 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,080 I have done so much user research over the years and I am 800 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,120 I it was this was a thing that really shocked me. 801 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,720 Everyone uses everything in Chrome. 802 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,960 That's, that's what, that's kind of what like when I'm looking at 803 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480 this, I'm like, I'm like, I have a feeling a majority of the 804 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,280 people like they have user data, they know what accounts are 805 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,640 touching ChatGPT codecs touching both one or the other. 806 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,720 Like they know. And I have a feeling they're, 807 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:04,360 they see that like if you are just using ChatGPT, you're just 808 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,520 using it in the web. But anyways, we should probably 809 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,720 move on to the challenge. Yes. 810 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,440 One thing really quick. I mean, I have one more thing in 811 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,520 the document and I'm going to like 30 seconds on this. 812 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,600 There's going to be a link in the show notes to something 813 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,800 called Open Knowledge. This is a new text editor. 814 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,080 This is a text editor that basically combines terminal it 815 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,560 together. So think Obsidian, but also you 816 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,320 have Claude code or codex in the terminal at the same time, all 817 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,120 in the same window. So for example, if you're using 818 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,000 Obsidian, I pointed it at my Obsidian vault, I can sit there 819 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,480 and write in all of my markdown text files. 820 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,240 But also I can be like, hey, go through and summarize all of the 821 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:52,400 features in iOS 27 about widgets and it'll go through all of my 822 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,760 notes. But just that's just the stuff 823 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,440 in my vault and it'll pull all that stuff and it'll come back 824 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,480 with all of the widget features and iOS 27 kind of cool if 825 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,240 you're into that. And it's free, so check it out. 826 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,200 Interesting. Yeah, I found it yesterday. 827 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,680 That was kind of interesting, but yeah, we should get to the 828 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,760 challenge. Oh boy. 829 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,480 So what was your challenge, Chris? 830 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,200 My challenge was build a shortcut with only the feature 831 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,320 Describe a shortcut which is an iOS, iPad OS and Mac OS27 832 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080 feature. Would you like to go first? 833 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,560 I feel like I just did a lot of talking, so it would you like to 834 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,000 go first? I can go first. 835 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,000 I doesn't keep a history, does it? 836 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,560 What? Do you mean doesn't? 837 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,600 Like a history of what you asked it to do it doesn't look like. 838 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:46,120 Oh, I don't think so. So I have been partially 839 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,040 successful and this might just be a beta issue, it probably is. 840 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:59,640 So I have created a shortcut called Save web page to stand by 841 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,840 quick reads and it is a simple little shortcut that uses that 842 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,160 new save anywhere. The URL I talked about that you 843 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,800 can use in apps like Feedbin and made it so made a shortcut that 844 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,520 takes in a safari website, it finds the URL and it sends it 845 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:24,840 over to quick reads. Now this is stupid because it is 846 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,800 totally unnecessary. The quick reads app has a share 847 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,720 extension that just shares it and it works better than this so 848 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,600 you should just use that. But if for whatever reason you 849 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,040 need, I just wanted to see if it could do it. 850 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120 Like can it understand what I'm asking it to do? 851 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,320 And I know it can't use third party apps yet. 852 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,800 So I was like what can I do? That's just with the Apple 853 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200 stuff. And it worked. 854 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:53,200 It did a good job. The only thing it didn't get 855 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,280 right and even after I asked it a couple times to fix it, it 856 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,840 didn't. So I just went in and fixed it 857 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,280 myself. It was against the challenge. 858 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,480 Well, here's, well, you'll, you'll hear in a moment why it 859 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,120 doesn't didn't matter. So the shortcut input there like 860 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,840 where you can select like what can like images, videos, it 861 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,440 would just always select all of them. 862 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:19,440 It would not specify. It would not let me specify just 863 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,320 like web pages. So I had to do that manually. 864 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:28,160 The ultimate problem, and this might just be an iOS 27 issue, 865 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,680 is that it never showed up as an option to share. 866 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,960 So I don't know what I did wrong, but oh, I probably need 867 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,280 to do something to like, say, to show it in the share sheet. 868 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,840 That's probably what. I you might have to add the 869 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,240 yeah, because I think that's an action now. 870 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,320 OK, so I could not for the life of me figure out how to get this 871 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,280 to show up in Safari itself. Yeah, I think that's. 872 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440 It I'll play around and see if I can get it to do it, but that 873 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,240 was the one thing that bummed me out is I actually, oh show in 874 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:01,800 the share sheet. Yeah, it's just an option. 875 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,160 And if I do it now, now it does show and it works. 876 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,200 I get the annoying pop up that says would you like to allow 877 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,560 this? Always allow. 878 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,520 Which, and it doesn't remember, always allow nice. 879 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:22,880 OK, it functions so so it works. I did great. 880 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:29,040 I did cheat a little I guess. All right, so I did. 881 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,000 Well, OK, so I started off was like, OK, I'm just going to tell 882 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,160 it. So this was the thing at WWDC, 883 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,040 we were all trying to get it to do and we couldn't get it to do. 884 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,640 So I was like, I'm going to do it this time. 885 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,360 We're on beta three. I bet you I can do it. 886 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,600 I was trying to get it to make a clipboard manager, even though 887 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,280 on iOS and iPad OS you would still have to manually add stuff 888 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,920 would not do it. It would like Nope out. 889 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,600 It would like one of the times it was like, I will save your 890 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,920 clipboard history to a notes document. 891 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,280 And then when you would try and go and get it, it would it would 892 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920 come up with little pop up. It said go into Apple notes and 893 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,320 look at this notes document and just copy it out of here. 894 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,920 I'm like, no, this is not right. So that didn't work. 895 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,920 So I was like, you know what, you know what other shortcut 896 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,040 everyone tried to make when shortcuts first came out was a 897 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,640 morning summary shortcut. Everyone had a morning summary 898 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,560 shortcut, including this guy. So I was like, you know what, 899 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,960 I'll I'll get it to do it. And it did a really good job 900 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,600 right off the first prompt of doing it. 901 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,920 It pulled all the reminders that we're due today, all my calendar 902 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,760 events and the weather. I did follow up with it because 903 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,920 what it did on the first go is it just put it all in like a 904 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,480 giant ward wall. Like it was just like one 905 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,240 paragraph. No line breaks, no nothing. 906 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,280 It's like, this is unreadable. So I told it I was like, OK, put 907 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,440 everything in a list form, use emojis to break up the sections 908 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,120 and stuff like that. Much more readable. 909 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,280 And then I also did follow up and told it to always include 910 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,560 specific weather, like the current temperature, high, low 911 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,560 and air quality, I believe. Yeah. 912 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,680 And it's been working great ever since then. 913 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,480 I'm not going to use this because I have something in 914 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,440 Codex that I use this for that's a lot more detailed and a lot 915 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,640 more powerful. And that's the thing that kind 916 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,520 of worries me about Shortcuts is I have something in Codex that 917 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,880 not only gives me all of this information, calendar events, 918 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960 reminders, weather, things like that, it also goes through my 919 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,200 e-mail and finds important messages, goes through the 920 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,080 Messages app, finds important messages. 921 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,600 It goes through and finds like 5 to 10 articles that from the 922 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,240 last 24 hours. It does a lot more that 923 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,960 Shortcuts just can't do. And I'm like kind of worried 924 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,160 Apple is behind the game on this. 925 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,800 No, not not that they are. They are behind the game. 926 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,880 I'm not worried that they might be. 927 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,440 They are behind. Well, nice. 928 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,000 That's fun. Yeah. 929 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,480 Did you cheat at all? No, no, I, I didn't. 930 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,400 I, I literally would just do the follow up and hit run and I'd be 931 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,240 like, OK, yeah, that worked. And I ran it a couple of times 932 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:03,400 throughout the week. I actually am curious. 933 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,080 I'm going to look at it. Let's let's look at it right 934 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:05,960 now. We have a couple minutes. 935 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,920 So let's let's look at I haven't looked at the editor, so I've 936 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,680 just been using the OK, so it starts with fine calendar 937 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,760 events, then does fine reminder, get weather, get temperature, 938 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,560 get high, get low, get air quality. 939 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,320 Then it uses the the Apple Intelligence use cloud model 940 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,560 option to basically somewhere. That's interesting because it 941 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,920 doesn't need to do that. It could have just put all that 942 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:33,320 information in a text, deal a text action and done that. 943 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,320 It doesn't need to use that, but I guess that it does. 944 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,320 Oh OK I see what it does. So it says basically it uses the 945 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,640 cloud model, says summarize my day based on calendar, events, 946 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,600 reminders, weather, current temperature. 947 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:48,280 And then it says please format the summary as an outline with 948 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,360 headings. Use emojis to symbolize 949 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,480 different sections. So that's funny because it does 950 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,400 that. You could get different results 951 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,840 every single time that you do that. 952 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,200 I don't, I didn't take screenshots, so I don't know if 953 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,480 I was getting different results. I wasn't paying that close of 954 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,600 attention. I assumed it would have been 955 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,680 using the text action and laying all that information out, but it 956 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,960 doesn't. Interesting. 957 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,320 But then the last one is show results. 958 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,960 So it shows that. All right. 959 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,240 Interesting. All right, Well, that was that 960 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,880 challenge. What do you got for us to do 961 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:26,560 this week? So my challenge is use one of 962 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,320 your Co hosts apps and make a feature suggestion. 963 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,080 Love this, love this. Ideally one that'll make them 964 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,960 $1,000,000. Can't can we tell Neilion to put 965 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,840 in codex and clot? No, Tell Neilion to put in grok 966 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:50,600 and Tiny start. A more cursed combination. 967 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,920 Just gonna be so mad. Oh boy. 968 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,600 Oh. I'm kidding. 969 00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,600 I'm kidding. I wouldn't do that. 970 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,000 I wouldn't do that. I. 971 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,960 Wouldn't do that. The coach doesn't have to follow 972 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,320 it. They could totally ignore it. 973 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,600 But you know, if I give them, we, we all like to do some dev 974 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,600 work. So give us give us something fun 975 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,360 to do. OK, I like this. 976 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,960 I like this a lot. OK, cool. 977 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,520 All right, well, that brings us to the end of the show, and I 978 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,200 have an end of the show question specifically for you, Matt. 979 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,360 Is Max Verstappen going to leave Red Bull? 980 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,920 There's a lot of rumors going around that he's talking to some 981 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,000 other teams and that like, he might be signing with McLaren, 982 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,600 even though everyone is publicly denying it. 983 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,560 There's a lot of rumors going around and you know what they 984 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,200 say? Where there's smoke, there's 985 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:45,600 papaya. Well, obviously on an infinite 986 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,760 time scale, yes, he will leave Red Bull. 987 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,520 I mean 40 years old. OK, before the start of next 988 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,880 season, will he be at Red Bull? Let's, let's put it that, let's 989 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,960 rephrase it before the start of the next Formula One season. 990 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,920 And by start, I mean obviously like testing and stuff like 991 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,720 that. Like by the start of the season, 992 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,960 will he still be at Red Bull? OK so I was going to say on an 993 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,080 infinite time scale, 100% heat death of the universe, he's gone 994 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,680 on a two to three-year time scale. 995 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:23,560 I would say like 80% chance he goes somewhere else but by next 996 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:28,960 season cause 'cause. His contract clause, so he has a 997 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,760 clause in his contract that he's able to leave if he isn't second 998 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,520 in the World Drivers Championship by a certain point 999 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,760 and we just passed that. He is not second. 1000 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:48,000 He's not even close to 2nd. Yeah, OK, F1 using my he's #7 1001 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,280 right now in the drivers championship. 1002 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,080 That's tough. Yeah. 1003 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,320 For, I mean, let's be real, the best driver on the grid at the 1004 00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:01,640 moment. 7th is rough. So yeah, OK, I'd I'd give it. 1005 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,640 Oh, I mean, it's it feels like a cop out. 1006 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,320 I feel like it's a coin flip. I would say he will still be 1007 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,160 with Red Bull at the start of next season. 1008 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,960 I'm saying he's gone. I I'm saying he, I'm saying next 1009 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,160 season he is not at Red Bull. I mean, he seems pretty upset 1010 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:18,960 and. Unhappy he is. 1011 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,920 He's mad. He is like, did you see the 1012 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,200 footage of him like after the race this last weekend? 1013 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:32,400 Like just like run past Lauren Becky's? 1014 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,560 Like he was just like, Nope, don't. 1015 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,280 Want to talk to you? Yeah, he was like Lauren. 1016 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,680 Becky's ran after him like it was like, yeah, he's, he's, 1017 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:42,640 he's. Yeah. 1018 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,960 All right. Well, that brings us to the 1019 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,080 show. Thank you all so much for 1020 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,480 listening. Thank you for Mac Stories, for 1021 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,080 having us. We're Mac Stories podcast after 1022 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,120 all. Go Let's go check out all the 1023 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,360 writings and other podcasts. I can't speak anymore. 1024 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,600 So that's a good place to wrap up. 1025 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,720 Have a great day.