1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Lights, camera, action. OK take 2. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Welcome to Comfort Zone, a podcast all about pushing your 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,400 host well outside of their comfort zone. 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,120 I'm Christopher Lawley and each week I am joined by two 5 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:17,480 incredible Co hosts. As always, I am joined by Matt 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Burchler. Matt, how are you doing? 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,440 I'm doing well, I'm drinking Doctor Pepper today and I'm 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,880 introducing Echo into the audio track, so hopefully it's no 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,120 longer happening, but I was doing a great job of creating 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,560 Echo a second ago. Oh, I think it's back by. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,760 The way I don't know, I well, let's just hope it's not in the 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 recording and it's something weird with the Riverside side. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,120 And if it is, I get to deal with a fun edit this week. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,600 I I, I have no idea what's going on. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,360 So we're also joined by Neilion. Neil Leon, how are you? 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Is there any echo where you are? I don't think so. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,480 My I think my my room last week was sounding very echoey but now 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,160 it's got more stuff in so. Yep, adding stuff definitely 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,240 helps with the echo that that actually could be. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 The thing is that it could be bouncing off your walls re 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,800 hitting your mic and that's why no we muted Matt. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,800 It doesn't matter anyways. Our our doesn't matter because 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,920 our listeners don't care about that. 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,840 What they care about is some tiny topics. 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,200 I have one for you guys. I got my WWDC invite. 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,320 I will be boots on the ground at WWDC. 27 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:31,480 This will be my 5th dub. Dub as the kids say. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,280 As do the kids talk about dub dub they. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,640 Talk about dub dub. They do I guess. 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Maybe. That they're, they're all 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,600 excited for the AI and, and stuff. 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,600 I think I don't know I, I'm, I'm fully expecting this to be a big 33 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:53,880 AI year and I'm not expecting, you know, like iPad OS 26 again, 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,080 so. You can tell as well because 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,120 they announced the accessibility stuff this week. 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:06,880 I'll be recording and it's full of AI talk, even though like I'm 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,560 not sure half of it is really AI because it feels like some of it 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,080 is iteration on some of the stuff that's been done before 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,200 and that's enhanced. So I don't know. 40 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,320 What you what you have to understand is these companies 41 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,280 are talking to investors and that's basically it. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,640 And they want to hear AI. You should see my inbox. 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,800 And like every, everyone has changed their company name to 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,440 have AI at the end of it. And like, I literally get 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,160 pictures from companies that have nothing to do with software 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,800 and they're like, Oh yeah, and we have AI now. 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,360 And I'm like, wait, what? Like I was in. 48 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:49,080 I I can't, I can't actually talk about it yet, but I'll talk 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,560 about it on the show when it comes up. 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,960 But I was in a thing and there was a thing that was announced 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:03,080 that has dedicated on device AI model and you're just like what? 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,880 No, no, no it doesn't. No, it does not. 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,200 But very. Nebulous. 54 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,960 I know I was probably even more than what I am allowed to say, 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,120 but whatever. I don't care. 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,040 But yeah, I'll be at WWDC this year. 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,800 I believe John and Federico will be there. 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,200 So it's fun hanging out with them. 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,560 I I'm excited. This is my fifth one, so I, I 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,600 wasn't actually sure I was going to be able to go this year 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,160 because of Riley, but we got that all squared away and I can 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,680 go. So I'm excited. 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,840 I wish you guys were coming. Well, I mean this is like my 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:46,840 20th WWDC, but I will be doing it remotely boots in the Midwest 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,000 as I always do. You get invited to stay home. 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,560 That's that. That's your invite. 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,400 That's true. That's true. 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,680 It will be an easier week for me. 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,880 Just just so people know if even if I get invited, I can't cross 70 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,880 the US border. So there you go. 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Look. I was just trying to stay in a 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,640 positive everything's OK mindset, you know, like we 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,920 don't, we don't need to go and all that. 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,800 You know, I'm thinking we live in a utopia right now. 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Make it happen in Paris or something, I don't know. 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,280 They used to be in Mac Expo in Paris. 77 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,840 There you go. Yeah, that would be cool. 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,160 Bring that back. I think the big thing is getting 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,040 the the amount of Apple employees that do something at 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,840 WWDCI. Think getting them outside of 81 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:36,880 the Cupertino area that's the problem. 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,840 Nah, trillion dollar company, they can make it happen. 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Probably. All right, we got something else 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,120 in here, and judging by what it is, I'm guessing it's from Neon. 85 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Yes, as we're recording this broke like an hour ago from. 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,360 So so by the time you're listening to this, it broke like 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,840 a week and an hour. Ago in a few days, but it's like 88 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:06,360 it's not massively urgent. It's like important piece of 89 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,280 news that I thought I would bring up Mac Generation. 90 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:15,760 So the French website that I mentioned before for which 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Nicola Ferno writes, he's an avid listener of Comfort Zone 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,640 and he's been in a feedback form a few times. 93 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,760 We roasted him his home screen. Anyway, yeah, he wrote this 94 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,320 article revealing that. So end to end encryption for RCS 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:42,160 has rolled out in iOS 26.5 and like in bunch of places in the 96 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,960 world actually, but one is missing on the map and that's 97 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,320 France. Like all the neighboring 98 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,720 countries in Europe all have end end to end encryption with RCS 99 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,160 and not France, which seemed weird. 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,200 So like Mac generation Nicola and Mac generation has asked 101 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,760 around. He called a few of the carriers 102 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,760 in France to, like, investigate what is going on. 103 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,680 And it turns out the French government is blocking it. 104 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Like, not not blocking it, but they're like, yeah, it'd be best 105 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,200 if you wait on this, that they're telling the carriers 106 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,800 just you should not roll this out right now because we're 107 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,960 doing counterterrorism, which is code for we. 108 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,800 We want to be able to keep reading people's text 109 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,520 conversations. And there's this weird 110 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,440 situation, like it's a political situation on Orleans. 111 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:46,240 There are four big carriers in France and one of them is 112 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,280 selling out like the they're trying to get bought by the 113 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:54,800 other three. And because like it's kind of 114 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,240 it's a high level thing because there will only be 3 big 115 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,000 carriers in France when that happens. 116 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,440 So there's like a regulation that comes into play, like is it 117 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,000 a monopoly if that happens? Is there a monopolistic 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,360 situation? So basically there are tons of 119 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,000 negotiations currently happening behind the scenes between the 120 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,400 government and those carriers. So the government is like 121 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,600 asking, it'd be, it'd be good if you wait on rolling out the end 122 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,880 to end encryption on RCS. And the carriers are like, sure, 123 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,360 let's not bother the government right now because we want them 124 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,360 to agree with our plan to buy the, the, the the one of the 125 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,800 carrier. So so basically the Stephen 126 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,680 Colbert situation. RIP to the real 1. 127 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,160 I, I I don't remember that context. 128 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Because Paramount. It's literally the same thing. 129 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,640 Paramount is trying to buy Warner Brothers and basically 130 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,280 the president wanted Stephen Colbert off the air so they 131 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,640 cancelled his show so that way they could buy it. 132 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Yeah. So right now there's is like the 133 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,360 situation is frozen, like carriers are waiting, government 134 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 is waiting. And yeah, no end to end 135 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,280 encryption for RCS in France right now, even though 136 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,120 everything's ready on Apple's end, everything's ready on the 137 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,760 carriers. And like you can, if you look at 138 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,920 the RCS profile that's bundled in iOS, everything's there for 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,280 the French carriers. So they just have to turn, turn 140 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,800 the switch to enable it. And they're not doing it because 141 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 of this. Very interesting. 142 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Yeah. The governments, they like to 143 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Snoop. And not and not the Snoop Doggy 144 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,840 Dog way. I don't know. 145 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,799 That wasn't funny. That was right. 146 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,680 That wasn't funny at all. I am so tired, guys. 147 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,640 I haven't had a full night's sleep since we got Riley and I 148 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,240 am exhausted. It's OK because you know why? 149 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,040 It's OK because I have a surprise tiny topic. 150 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,680 Oh. Yes, it's the browser podcast, 151 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:02,200 baby. Yeah, you'll handle that. 152 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:10,080 Yes, Vivaldi announced version 8 point O this week with a big 153 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,560 redesign. Which seems weird because when 154 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:17,680 you update to 8.0 everything's looks exactly the same. 155 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:23,240 There's no redesign inside. But this is mostly seen for new 156 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,800 users for like when you install, when you do a French install, a 157 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,480 French, a fresh install on the onboarding, everything looks 158 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,520 new. There's a new default theme, 159 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,680 There's a new way to make your, to style your themes in Vivaldi, 160 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,920 which looks very sleek. I, I like it. 161 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,960 And but yeah, if you already have configured the custom theme 162 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,040 when you upgrade, you will not see a difference. 163 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,120 They are preserving everything that used to be there, which is 164 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,280 good because the users of Vivaldi, they are users who have 165 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,800 customized heavily the UI and you do not want to break that 166 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,880 over every design. Well, they've wasted half their 167 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,200 life just going through the settings page, you know? 168 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:11,560 Now they're looking for the, the, the, Oh my God, my brain is 169 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,040 broken. My brain. 170 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,920 Is don't save him. My Indiana Jones and Last 171 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Crusade. The Last Crusade. 172 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,840 What was the thing? The Holy, The Holy Grail. 173 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,480 They were looking for the Holy Grail now. 174 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,440 Oh my God, my brain is broken. You've fully. 175 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Lost Chris at this point. He's talking about the Bible or 176 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,680 something. No talk about Indiana Jones, OK 177 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Oh my brain. So anyway, so for people who 178 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,800 thought Vivaldi looks ugly or something like you're not you, 179 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,600 you don't like the looks of it, the new default theme looks very 180 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,520 different. I will give them that. 181 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,640 It's a, it's a, it's a new fresh look and maybe you want to give 182 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,960 that a try. And now I'm done. 183 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,200 There's no surprise, OK, beyond that. 184 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,280 OK. All right. 185 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Well, that was the browser podcast. 186 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Interesting. OK, All right, so I I have a 187 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,680 topic for you guys this week and I want to talk about codecs and 188 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,880 computer use. I'm I'm sorry, Neil Leon, we are 189 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,760 going to discuss AI. I'm. 190 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,680 Sorry, so like 81 MP? Four, yes. 191 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:21,920 Yep. That's that's what codecs. 192 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,400 Yep, Yep. That's what we're going to be 193 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,680 discussing. Absolutely. 194 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,960 Let's get nerdy. Oh my gosh. 195 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Yeah, no, codecs is the open AI ChatGPT. 196 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,560 Well, originally it was their coding platform. 197 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,520 It was their answer to Claude code and but it's kind of 198 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,280 evolved. So it's become its own dedicated 199 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,880 app on Mac OS now and it has its own tab in the iOS app now in 200 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,840 the ChatGPT iOS app and it's become kind of its own thing. 201 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,360 It's kind of become a productivity super app. 202 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,720 And I'm, I'm curious, have you have either of you use the 203 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,360 dedicated codecs app? No. 204 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,480 I have used it to try to code and it did not click with me so 205 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,400 I went back to what works for me. 206 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,880 OK. All right. 207 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:16,000 And is that still cloud code? Cloud code in the terminal like 208 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,720 a real sego. Nice. 209 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,560 No, I I get it. Look, I, I've been using Cloud 210 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:26,680 Code for a while now, but codecs has evolved beyond just being a 211 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:29,240 coding platform. And this is really clicking with 212 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,880 me. So a little bit of history. 213 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,560 We all know the app workflow, which became Shortcuts workflow 214 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:42,000 was the original automation platform on iOS. 215 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,360 Apple bought it, it became Shortcuts. 216 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,640 And it's the buggy mess that we know today. 217 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,880 The the original workflow team went to work at Apple. 218 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,920 They left a couple of years ago and they went off to do their 219 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,640 own thing and they made an app, Sky, which never got a public 220 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,080 release, but Federico wrote about it on Mac Stories and like 221 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,560 it. It was really interesting what 222 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,960 they were doing with it. Basically the idea was you would 223 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,600 have basically get natural language automation. 224 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,480 You would just type a sentence and it would go do a thing on 225 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,440 your Mac. Well, Open AI bought it and 226 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,840 integrated it into Codex and it is now a feature called Computer 227 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,640 Use. And this is where codecs gets 228 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,520 really interesting. So codecs, like I said, is no 229 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,240 longer just a coding platform. It is a productivity platform. 230 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,800 There's plug insurance for Google Sheets and Docs and 231 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:40,000 Chrome and Notion and Jira and all those like big businessy boy 232 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:46,520 apps that Matt uses. Computer use is a little 233 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,680 different. It is a plug in, but it allows 234 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:53,800 you to do any it'll allows codecs to control anything and 235 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,000 everything on your computer. Now, by the time this episode is 236 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,320 out, my video on this will be out because it's going to be out 237 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,880 tomorrow and today's Friday. But this doesn't come out till 238 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,680 the following Thursday schedules. 239 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,000 You know that's that's the whole thing. 240 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,680 So I will have a video for you that you can go watch, but 241 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:15,280 there's also Open AI put out a video with Ari, the original 242 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,960 creator of Workflow, demoing this and it's really cool. 243 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,840 So basically the way it works is say you wanted to go through 244 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,920 your e-mail, go through and find all the receipts that were in 245 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,240 your e-mail and then update your expense tracking spreadsheet. 246 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,960 You would literally type go through at the AT symbol like an 247 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,120 e-mail at mail and find all my receipts. 248 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,040 I need you to go in and update my expense tracker in whatever 249 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,520 spreadsheet document you're using. 250 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 For my example, I would go at numbers. 251 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Numbers does not have a Codex plug in. 252 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,880 There is no plug in for mail or numbers, but I would type it. 253 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,240 I would type at it would search for all the apps that are on my 254 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Mac, find that app that you know, you just natural language 255 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,680 type it out, find it in the list, select it and it would go 256 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,800 through find all the receipts that have come in for you know, 257 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,600 stuff I bought. Then update my expense tracker 258 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,400 automatically and it works fantastic. 259 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,080 I've been using this for so many different things and it is 260 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,480 amazing. It is pure natural language 261 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:25,400 automation without needing to know ifs you know like it. 262 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,840 What if statements do. You don't need to know terminal 263 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,360 commands. You don't need to know what apps 264 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,600 need CLI. You don't need to know Python or 265 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,680 any of this stuff. It is pure natural language 266 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,880 automation and it is very, very interesting. 267 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,800 I've used it for running our audio through Hush because what 268 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,800 you can do is you can use it from your phone so you can link 269 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,240 the ChatGPT app on your phone to your Mac. 270 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,960 And I literally had the files download and then I told it to 271 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,920 you, hey, look for this zip file. 272 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,080 So it's always timeline dot zip from from Riverside is is our 273 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,800 audio files. Unzip the file, take the audio 274 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,640 files that are in that folder that you unzipped. 275 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,440 Run them through the app Hush. Set the output in Hush to my 276 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,560 under score temp folder. Do not change any presets in 277 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,520 Hush. And it did it perfect. 278 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,520 By the time I got back to my Mac, all of those files were ran 279 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,080 and they were there. It like they were done. 280 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,920 They ran through Hush, they were cleaned up, they were there. 281 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Sorry my brain is broken right now. 282 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,280 I really hope this is all making sense. 283 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:40,240 That makes sense, So. I I am incredibly impressed with 284 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,080 how this is working and like the the team behind computer use. 285 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,640 I think this is the next step in automation for your computer and 286 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 they have timed automation so you can set things up to run at 287 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,200 specific times. This is really making me want a 288 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,640 Mac mini or a Mac studio like I am. 289 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,040 I am like I keep checking out like I'm like, I could just buy 290 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,200 one, but like the M5 ones aren't out like like maybe, but are the 291 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,359 M5 ones going to be so much more expensive? 292 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:16,000 I am I I've multiple times this week had a Mac mini in my cart 293 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,200 ready to go and I was like maybe just wait. 294 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,839 And are they back in stock? I think the one that I wanted 295 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:27,960 was in stock, but I don't remember. 296 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,280 But I, I think the one I but I've been like looking at like 297 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,120 the price and I'm like, I don't because I want like the M4 pro 298 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:39,000 and like, yeah, I don't, I don't want the base M4 and I want some 299 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,160 extra RAM and I need some extra storage. 300 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,640 I wonder. So I'm looking at the video 301 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,600 video from Open AI that you linked. 302 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:56,520 It looks quite different from white when when Federico showed 303 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,680 off with Sky it looks quite different. 304 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:04,760 It feels like Sky. I wanted to be some like way 305 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,440 more contextual than this. Yes, I would agree absolutely. 306 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,960 And Sky felt more like a spotlight replacement, whereas 307 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,800 this is a chat bot. Like I'm just going to tell you 308 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,480 to go do something and it goes do it and goes and does it. 309 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,680 Now I haven't got to the best part of this. 310 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,280 OK. So when you tell it to go do 311 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,160 something, it basically creates another cursor on your Mac to go 312 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,240 do it, but it doesn't hijack your computer, unlike other 313 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,000 tools. It does this completely in the 314 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,080 background. So that male example I I gave 315 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,680 earlier of like, hey, go through my mail, find all the receipts, 316 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,120 update my expense tracking spreadsheet, that all happens in 317 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:49,240 the background. I can still be editing a video 318 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:54,680 or working on photos or writing a script or whatever while 319 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,160 that's happening in the background that it doesn't take 320 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,600 over my computer in any way whatsoever. 321 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,800 It it all happens in the background. 322 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,280 That's the killer feature of this. 323 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Yeah, that is nice. I, I remember when I'm like was 324 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,800 last year playing with all these AI browsers that browse for you. 325 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,360 They all took over the browser and so you couldn't do anything 326 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:20,960 and all you had to do was watch it use your browser slowly and 327 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,920 often poorly. So it would would be nice not to 328 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,560 like have it take over your mouse cursor and stuff. 329 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,880 Are you are there other things you're doing with it? 330 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,640 The Hush example is interesting. I the e-mail example is the 331 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,800 example. I always hear about these 332 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,720 automation tools and I do them once and I never do them again. 333 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,040 So I'm curious if there's like other things that are clicking 334 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,480 for you with this? Yeah, so there's a few other 335 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,560 things that I, I am doing as well. 336 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,520 So one of the other things is it works great with Obsidian 337 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,480 because Obsidian is file and folder and stuff like that. 338 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:06,160 So I went and I, I got some, I got to be kind of vague about 339 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240 this part. I got some PDF documents this 340 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,440 week for some products. Not nothing Apple related. 341 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,840 If you were listening and you're like Apple's about ready to 342 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,400 release something new. This is not Apple related 343 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,920 whatsoever. Do not. 344 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,600 This is not Apple related. It's it's from Microsoft. 345 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Yes, it's from Microsoft. It's they're bringing the 346 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,440 Surface tablets back and I, I, you can only get real work done 347 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,760 on the Surface tablet. So that's, that's what this is. 348 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,520 So I got some PDF documents and they are full of fluff and one 349 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,840 thing I I and like I want to be able to go through these PDF. 350 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520 I want to be able to get the information out of these PDF 351 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,720 documents. But one I don't want them to be 352 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,360 in PDF form and I don't want all this fluff. 353 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 So I point it. So I gave them the codex. 354 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,800 I said hey, summarize these pull out all the key points, turn 355 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,440 them into a markdown file and then add them to my research 356 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,240 folder in AT Obsidian. Obsidian does not have a plug 357 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,400 in. It does have a command line 358 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,080 interface, so it can use all that stuff, but it just did that 359 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,800 in the background and went through these fairly hefty PDF 360 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,440 documents, found all the key points and created a pretty big 361 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,000 Obsidian document for me to go through. 362 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,560 And now I have all the key points from that document. 363 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,600 And I even verified it like because this is fairly new. 364 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,240 So I did verify it and was like, yeah, you pulled all the 365 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,040 important key points and it took out all the fluff. 366 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,240 There was none of this like patting ourselves on the back. 367 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,360 We did this amazing thing, crap that I was all over this PDF 368 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:41,080 document. So it did a really great job 369 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,760 with that. Another example, and this is 370 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:49,320 another male one, but I get so much spam, but a lot of the spam 371 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,400 and like junk e-mail is very similar. 372 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,960 So I created a timed automation to go through and look for all 373 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,240 these emails that are fairly similar and just archive them 374 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,240 right away. And it's literally cleaning up 375 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,400 my inbox every morning and it's like cutting it down by half 376 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,800 like it is, it is so helpful like that is is killer. 377 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,200 Another another example and this one, this one's pretty, this 378 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840 one's kind of demory, but I have found it to be really useful as 379 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,640 I created a timed automation and it goes through my To Do List 380 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,480 and fantastic how everyday creates a summary and texts it 381 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,160 to me and then marks that message in messages as unread. 382 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,720 So when I wake up, I have it because if you text yourself in 383 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,040 messages in the Mac messages app, it's going to immediately 384 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,040 mark it as read. So this will actually go in and 385 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320 mark it as unread. So that's kind of cool. 386 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,160 And again, this is all using the gooey not like to do it and 387 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,080 fantastic. Hell, do not hook into codex 388 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,600 whatsoever. This is using the gooey of the 389 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Mac and this it's kind of cool. Like I was like, OK, yeah, this 390 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,320 it's very demo E, but I also thought like, hey, if you are 391 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,960 somebody that's like a big business boy bachelor and you 392 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,280 have a bunch of different apps with a bunch of different stuff 393 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560 all over the place, you could have this go through and be 394 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,720 like, OK, my team is working on this. 395 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,840 I have this on my schedule. I have this on my task list. 396 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,760 This was the summary of these meeting notes. 397 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Like I, we have a follow up meeting to this meeting. 398 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Here's a summary of those meeting notes because you can 399 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,480 have it go out and look and be like, hey, do I have any 400 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,880 meetings on my calendar? Oh, were there any meetings 401 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,920 related to this in the past month? 402 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,400 Go and find my notes for this and send me a summary of those 403 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,880 notes. Like that's the kind of thing it 404 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,920 can do. And again, it all happens in the 405 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,960 background and that's the killer part. 406 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,160 If this was hijacking your computer, this, I do not think 407 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,840 this would be useful whatsoever. But the fact that this is 408 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,680 happening in the background while you can still use your 409 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,400 computer is really nice. Say gooey again. 410 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,840 Gooey, did I say it? Weird? 411 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 I'm a little stuffed up today. I don't know if you could tell. 412 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,520 Gooey, gooey, gooey. It is a funny word. 413 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,640 I it is I, you know, I grew up in a different generation and I 414 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,440 only saw a GUI written out. I liked forums for many years 415 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,080 and so I in my head I had always been saying GUI and I had no 416 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,120 idea people were saying GUI all this time. 417 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Same. I said GUI but yeah. 418 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,960 I I always heard gooey, I don't know why. 419 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Gooey. I don't know. 420 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,000 But anyway, so that's, that's kind of codex. 421 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,360 Do you guys have any questions on it? 422 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:32,520 I, I think it's a very fascinating Oh, it you can use 423 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,760 it with the free tier of ChatGPT. 424 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,280 You just you have to download the dedicated codecs app. 425 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:44,360 It's not in the Mac ChatGPT app. It's in the Mac OS codecs app. 426 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,280 So you have to download that and then you go into the plug 427 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,000 insurance and install computer use. 428 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,480 But it is free to use. But you, if you do anything 429 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,920 heavy with it, you will blow through your free usage tokens 430 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,320 pretty quickly. I'm on the $20.00 a month plan 431 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,200 and I haven't hit that limit yet. 432 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,280 So it's, it's been fine with that. 433 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,200 So I, I've been pretty happy with it and I, I think it's, 434 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,000 it's a pretty interesting tool to play with. 435 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,760 That was exactly my question is a lot of times these features 436 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,320 are in the like $200 a month plan and that's a important 437 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,360 detail to mention. It is and honestly, if this was 438 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:24,880 just in the $200 a month plan, I, I wouldn't even bring it up. 439 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,200 But the fact that this is in the free plan and the $20.00 a month 440 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,560 plan, and I think because they chat GB or open AI has like an 441 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,440 $8 a month plan. So I'm guessing it's in that as 442 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,000 well. Because if it's in the free plan 443 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,680 and it's in the 20, I'm guessing it's in that $8 plan. 444 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,200 But I don't, I just went with the, the, the, whatever the I, I 445 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480 can't keep track of the name. I think it's the plus. 446 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560 I think it's chat. GPT plus is the 20. 447 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,200 Dollar yeah OK, all right, that's what I thought it but 448 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,600 yeah so anyways, I have been really liking this and I've been 449 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,760 liking its results. I also like with ChatGPT, you 450 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,480 can tweak its personality so it doesn't be overly friendly and 451 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,400 like you can just strip it down to like kind of the bare bones 452 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280 because I don't I don't I don't I don't need an AI to be my 453 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,960 friend. I, I got you 2. 454 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,920 Like I don't need an AII got you 2. 455 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,920 But yeah, so I don't know. It's, it's even if you're kind 456 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,040 of like, I'm not sure about this AI stuff, I would, I would play 457 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,360 with this because I think it's fascinating natural language 458 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,360 automation. And I'm really hoping Apple has 459 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:33,360 something like this at WWDC at the very least, the ability to 460 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,200 create shortcuts like this. You know, Federico just released 461 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,920 his, his, his shortcuts generator thing that he's been 462 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,120 working on a really long time. We should put a link to that in 463 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:50,040 the show notes that Matt Matt, that's you shortcuts. 464 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Playground. Shortcuts playground. 465 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Thank you. I can't, I was my brain is not 466 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,000 functioning today, guys. Oh my gosh, it is so bad. 467 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,920 But anyways, I'm hoping Apple has something like that at WWDC. 468 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,760 But yeah, so that's codecs and computer use. 469 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,600 Like I said, free to try. So just go check it out. 470 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,760 It's I think it's pretty interesting. 471 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,960 Yeah, my only opinion on this is it freaks me out so I. 472 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,600 OK so try this ever. I will say they do a really good 473 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,720 job with permissions. It will not interact with any 474 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600 app without asking your permission. 475 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,120 There is an always allow option that you can check that I've 476 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,600 checked for my timed automations, but it won't just 477 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,920 go and go rogue and start doing stuff. 478 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,720 And I've never had it. Like I've been having it send 479 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,800 messages through the messages app and it's never once messed 480 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320 up. So I've I've been impressed. 481 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,760 I like and I am, I, I'm I, I was an AI skeptic for a very long 482 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000 time and I'm impressed. Fix me out. 483 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,440 I've I've used my human hands to create a reminder for four weeks 484 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,880 from now and I'm going to I'm looking for an update. 485 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,240 I'm curious if you're still using it, if you still like it, 486 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,480 if you found new things, because I would love to see how it works 487 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,920 in the long run. I and like I said, I will have a 488 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960 video out. So today's Friday, it'll be out 489 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,200 tomorrow, Saturday. But by the time the audience is 490 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,120 listening this, it's been out for almost a week. 491 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,320 So they'll be there will be a video out. 492 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,880 But I thought it this would be an interesting discussion to 493 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,600 have with the two of you because I feel like the three of us are 494 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,160 on on a nice range of the AI spectrum. 495 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Oh no, this implies that am I the AI sicko who just love? 496 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,400 How many apps have you made so far? 497 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,840 None of them are AI apps though. They're just like apps for 498 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,360 normal folks. Yeah, but what did you use to 499 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,560 make them? I think that's different. 500 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,800 I mean, I guess I also use the AI then. 501 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,760 OK, so maybe we're not as far apart as I thought because I 502 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,400 have some internal tools as well. 503 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:01,920 So yeah. And listen, I surprisingly in 504 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,720 everyday life, I, because I started doing this ironically 505 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400 and it's starting to get unironic, but I look up things 506 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,360 in ChatGPT all the time in front of my friends just to like annoy 507 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,720 them because most of my friends are like radical leftists and 508 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:25,120 they are worse than me on AI. And I just, I, I when, when we 509 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,960 talk about things, I just pick up ChatGPT just to annoy them. 510 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,680 It's starting to become like, it started as an ironic thing and I 511 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,400 do it all the time. But it's funny. 512 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,720 I still find it funny. ChatGPT search is actually 513 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,560 really good, I mean. You can't find. 514 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Sorry, you can't find. You can't find anything with 515 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Google. It's. 516 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,280 Yeah, no, Google is. Google has gotten really bad. 517 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760 It's hey, have you guys heard Caggy? 518 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help myself. 519 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720 If you don't know, it's like everybody on Mastodon is like 520 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,320 discovering Caggy this week. Yeah. 521 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,520 I have beef with Caggy. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I 522 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,400 know. Yeah, don't use Caggy. 523 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Nice. Do what you want. 524 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,280 OK. All right. 525 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,960 I have a Caggy T-shirt. Yeah, people have Caggy 526 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,440 plushies. I don't know. 527 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640 We are we are a spectrum on Kaggy. 528 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,720 Yeah, some people have arc stickers still on their laptops. 529 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,360 I don't know if those like. I would I would put an ARC 530 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,240 sticker on my laptop. Absolutely. 531 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800 If you have an ARC sticker, reach out. 532 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,320 I will put that on my. Laptop having a Netscape sticker 533 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,040 I guess. If you have a Netscape sticker 534 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,320 reach out I I will send you some money. 535 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,560 Yes. Oh my God, I bet you I could 536 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,080 order one from. Oh, by the way, guys, we when we 537 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000 talked about the Newton last week, right? 538 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000 We Tim asked us about it. Yeah. 539 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:02,560 Yes, and so I was in the I was on the Cult of Mack podcast this 540 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:09,240 week and Griffin from Cult of Mack, he told me see, so he 541 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,600 listened to our show and he told me I've got a Newton right here 542 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,720 and and I was like, maybe maybe should come on, talk about the 543 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,560 Newton. We should do something about it 544 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,800 because I I see on masterdone that also Tim told you that he 545 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,880 has a Newton. So like maybe you can we can 546 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,200 arrange a Newton focus group on the show or something. 547 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,680 But anyway, so we kind of provoked our audience send us 548 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Newtons and people are actually like, here's my Newton. 549 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,920 I can talk about the Newton. Yeah, yeah, attempt link to like 550 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,400 there's like a Wi-Fi chip you can get in it and. 551 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,400 Yeah. Oh, boy. 552 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,600 It just seems like if I had nostalgia for that, I think I'd 553 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,080 be all over it. But I just. 554 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,000 I missed that whole era. I'm too young. 555 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,480 Yeah. I was a baby. 556 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Yeah. I look if if people want to come 557 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,840 on and talk about it, they're more than welcome to, but are 558 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,160 they careful? With what you say, Chris? 559 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520 Yeah, OK. No, you're not welcome. 560 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,720 Do not come on. By the way, I found a Netscape 561 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,960 sticker. I'm ordering it now. 562 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,120 Oh wow, OK. Do you have nostalgia for 563 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,040 Netscape? Yes, because I use Netscape. 564 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,520 OK, for me, it's a legend, you know? 565 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,320 It's it's a real thing. It's a real thing. 566 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,200 It was. Oh boy, my first browser was an 567 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,440 E world. But anyway, yeah. 568 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:44,640 Yeah, now I, I, I had a. Yep, I had to do I had to do 569 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,360 that back in the day. Yeah. 570 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,840 Now, now have you guys ever heard of Red Bubble? 571 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,120 It's a like a sticker website. Yeah, they do T-shirts as well. 572 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,280 T-shirt points. They have a lot of really good 573 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,280 stuff on here. I'm just like adding a bunch of 574 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640 stuff to my cart right now. Is it one of? 575 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,480 Those, I think it's one of those sites where you can easily get 576 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,920 started if you're an artist and just really they print 577 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,080 everything for you and you just upload your designs. 578 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,000 Oh OK, well hopefully they're not problematic because I'm 579 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520 giving them like 20. Bucks no idea, so OK. 580 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,800 Don't worry about it. Yeah, no, dude, Oh my gosh, that 581 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,200 that was the first place I ever bought stickers and I regret 582 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640 ever giving them money. Screw sticker mule. 583 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Anyways, we should probably move on. 584 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,440 How did we started with codecs and ended that stickers? 585 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880 I'm not not not sure what happened there. 586 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,480 You know, podcasts just need the flow, talk about whatever you're 587 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,960 going to talk about. This is going to be one of those 588 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,560 4 hour podcasts where we just we just no. 589 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,680 It can't be. I got, I got Mandalorian Grogu 590 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,120 tickets. It can't be 4 hours. 591 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,400 Oh. OK, OK, well, we can move on to 592 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,600 my topic, which is more of a more of an idea, OK. 593 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,320 So I love when we have one of these. 594 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,400 I I, I don't really know how to start this, but I, I kind of 595 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,880 feel like social media tech. So this is a tech thing has made 596 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:16,400 us talk like psychopaths and I kind of I just the, the more I 597 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,639 like think about it, the more I, I kind of believe this. 598 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,280 This all kicked off a few weeks ago whenever the new Fitbit was 599 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,840 announced. The new Fitbit like banned it 600 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:35,440 like goes after the the oh boy, whoop, whoop. 601 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,880 Thank you. And and I don't I don't have the 602 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,440 link to it anymore, but I saw someone post they were just some 603 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,239 I had some influencer I'd never heard of. 604 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,480 But like some of the people I follow, they're on threads. 605 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,239 Some of the people I follow on threads follow them. 606 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,360 So anyway, they're clearly trying to like build some sort 607 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,920 of audience and be influencer like. 608 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,880 Let me, let me just come in with the craziest hot takes on 609 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,240 threads and like I I don't even need to believe them. 610 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,880 I just need to write the craziest shit possible and then 611 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,080 I'll get a following. That's threads for you. 612 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Maybe, but like the the the way this this post was worded, it 613 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600 was like it's it said it, it started out. 614 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,200 I feel sorry for anyone who's bought a whoop Fitbit just 615 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,680 killed what you love. Like that was like, and I was 616 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,720 like, OK, that's a psychotic thing to say. 617 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,720 If you said that in the real world, you would like, if you 618 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,200 walked into the Best Buy to like buy your Fitbit and you were 619 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,280 like, I feel sorry for the losers who bought the whoop. 620 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,720 This is cheaper and better. And no, I haven't used it, so I 621 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,200 don't actually know any of this, but it's definitely going to 622 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,600 kill the whoop. It was just it. 623 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080 It wasn't like the worst thing. People say worse things on 624 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,880 social media. But like, and we've established 625 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,720 Whoop as a cult, so if you were to say something like that in 626 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,560 person, you'd get punched in the face or. 627 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Oh my God. Stabbed or maybe given Kool-aid, 628 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480 I don't know. Chris, you're not helping my 629 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,360 point here. But like, it's, it's just, it's 630 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,880 just a, it's a, it's a quiet. It's just the sort of thing that 631 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,000 like social media makes you say, you can't just say like, oh, 632 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,200 Google released this new Fitbit that looks kind of cool. 633 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520 Hopefully it lives up to what seems like it could be pretty 634 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,480 decent. That's not going to get any 635 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,400 clicks. No one's excited about that. 636 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,920 No one's hitting the like button for that. 637 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,080 It's it's I'm going to be mean to people because they bought a 638 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,400 thing that there might be a better thing now. 639 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,040 And I feel bad for them because they bought this four years ago 640 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,680 and this didn't exist. But they should have known in 641 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,720 four years this was there was going to be a better thing out. 642 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,000 Another thing that I see a lot is people who are like X just 643 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600 killed Y not like X the social media platform, but like this 644 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,200 thing just killed this like this is gone. 645 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,360 And it's kind of the same thing of like this. 646 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,800 They haven't even used the thing yet. 647 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,880 This was another post I saw recently where Datadog has like 648 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,920 some sort of tool they're working on that will like it's, 649 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,880 it's, it helps you monitor like software and they're building 650 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,560 some platform that will let you like as it notices recurring 651 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600 errors come up. It will generate tasks and code 652 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,640 those tasks and can like set submit them to review and all 653 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,680 that. And someone was like Datadog 654 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,840 just killed Claude code in Codex. 655 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,880 Yeah. OK, did it. 656 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,440 I don't know. And the other one and this one 657 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,160 really gets me. This 10. 658 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:30,320 This one gets me is when it's it's always the same. 659 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,480 It is always the notes app icon, Apple notes a greater than 660 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,720 symbol. And then it's either Notion or 661 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,200 Obsidian and it's like, or it's the, the version of that charge 662 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,920 with like the the line graph that's like like 0 IQ, medium 663 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,000 IQ, high IQ. And it's like if you have 0 IQ, 664 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,880 you use Apple Notes. If you, if you have a medium IQ, 665 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,680 you use Notion because you think you're being fancy. 666 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,400 And then once you are really smart, you're using Apple Notes 667 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,720 because Apple Notes is the GOAT because you didn't actually need 668 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,200 all that automation. You didn't need all that 669 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:08,720 complication. So yeah, I think that one is 670 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,080 just generally the, I have figured it out. 671 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,880 You don't need all that complexity. 672 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,640 Or here's a 17 post thread on how you could optimize using 673 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,240 something. And the thing about it I don't 674 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,560 like is that people go through eras. 675 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000 I feel like like sometimes you need complexity, sometimes you 676 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,400 want simplicity and you're going to go back and forth. 677 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,120 It's fine. It's OK. 678 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,840 I if I find no, my iPhone is recording this video so I can't 679 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,200 hold up the camera. If you look at my home screen, I 680 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,080 don't have things on there at the moment. 681 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,440 The app thing, you don't have anything on your home screen. 682 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,000 It's just blank. I don't have things. 683 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,480 Yeah, the screen's broken. That's why it's my camera now. 684 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960 I don't use I, I'm not using things at the moment. 685 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,960 I'm actually using reminders for the reminders that I have. 686 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,480 Because Matt's finally high IQ or no IQ, What? 687 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,720 Where are we on that ground? One or the other, but like right 688 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,480 now, I don't need the things that things did for me. 689 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,840 That's not important to me. Reminders is totally sufficient 690 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,640 and the fact that it can do those like urgent alerts that 691 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,960 like take over the screen like it's an alarm going off is 692 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,760 actually very nice. You're you're one step closer to 693 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,120 my way of. Maybe I'll be there one day. 694 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,720 Maybe I'll just be like whatever. 695 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,120 If it, if I can't keep it in my head or on a sticky note, then 696 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,640 it's, it's not getting done. Oh my God, you know, you go 697 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,600 through phases. You have a second brain and then 698 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,040 you're like, why did I have that second brain? 699 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080 That was so stupid. You have these like crazy 700 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,840 automations set up and then you're like, I don't need those 701 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,680 crazy automations. You sign up for a very expensive 702 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120 app that some people call a cult because it really helps you with 703 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,400 e-mail. And then you kind of get an 704 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,920 e-mail under control and you don't need any more. 705 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,800 Like people go through phases and I, I am very annoyed when it 706 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080 there's like this one-size-fits-all or like 707 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,320 you're. You have achieved enlightenment 708 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,120 once you do what I do at this exact moment, because in six 709 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,320 months I'll do things something different. 710 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,720 So anyway, I think there's just, I think social media has like 711 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,760 made us talk like influencers all the time about everything 712 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:23,960 and it's made us angry in a way that's just very upsetting. 713 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,360 Because everything has to scale now. 714 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,080 That's the thing with the way why everyone talks this way is 715 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880 everything has to scale. I need to be bigger and bigger 716 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,920 so I can get bigger and bigger ad deals. 717 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,760 And it's annoying and frustrating. 718 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,680 And I, I am making changes to my business because I am sick of 719 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,400 that stuff. I am sick of the, I need to 720 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,960 constantly scale. I am making some changes because 721 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,280 I, I, I have been seeing what you're talking about that and 722 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,200 it's driving me nuts as well. And it's I, I just can't. 723 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,920 I can't. I don't want to be a part of it. 724 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,800 Yeah, and all of these, all these posts I'm quoting are 725 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,320 actually Chris Lawley. Actually, it's pretty 726 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,040 incredible. Actually, I wouldn't. 727 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:14,760 I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah, so it's just it's a thing. 728 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,520 Also on a related note, I saw Christopher Nolan did an 729 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,600 interview, I think with 60 minutes this past week where 730 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,160 he's they talked to him about tech and they're like, you don't 731 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,000 have a smartphone. And he's like, no, I don't use a 732 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,240 smartphone. I have a flip phone. 733 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,600 They're like, you don't do e-mail and he's like, no, I 734 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,240 don't do e-mail. And you know, good for him. 735 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,720 What what a life that must be. But the the post. 736 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:45,360 That is my God. But the post that I I saw was 737 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,320 like, now ask his assistants if they use e-mail. 738 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,440 Yeah, Oh yeah, 100%. But I. 739 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,560 I do think it is, it is interesting when you see like 740 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:01,080 these people, like I find in my line of work, when someone's an 741 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,080 executive and like a really high up in a company, they're, 742 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,960 they're more likely to just bring like their iPad around or 743 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,680 like they're doing everything from their phone and or they had 744 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,360 just have like a paper notebook in front of them. 745 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,200 And it's like, Oh, that's how that's how you do it. 746 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,280 And it's like, no, no, no, you have assistance. 747 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,760 You have a whole team behind you that does things for you. 748 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,720 And it's just a, it's a very different life depending on 749 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:23,760 where you are. So. 750 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,040 Yeah, there's a reason why I have a bajillion automations 751 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,040 that fire off all the time because those are my assistance 752 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,520 like that. That's, that's that's it. 753 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,560 I instead of, instead of hiring people because I, I, I can't 754 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,840 afford to hire somebody and give them proper salary and health 755 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,400 insurance and all that stuff, I programmed a bunch of 756 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,720 automations and that's my assistants. 757 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:47,920 And that's why I can carry around an iPad. 758 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,840 Yeah, so anyway, and I feel like I this is the same at every 759 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,240 social network. It was like this when I was on 760 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,880 Twitter. It's definitely like this on 761 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:03,560 Threads. Threads is 9, but it is really 762 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,040 like the most vapid stuff. I feel like Threads is kind of 763 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,920 like Facebook where there's stuff there and there's 764 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,920 apparently hundreds of millions of people using it, but like, it 765 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,240 never escapes containment. It's never like culturally 766 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:18,000 relevant. It's all just vapid junk. 767 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,240 And yeah, so anyway. The the I only have two reasons 768 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,880 for having threads still installed is because that is 769 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200 where a majority of my YouTube friends are. 770 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,080 So it's nice to just kind of see what's going on with them. 771 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,120 And that's where Formula One news is are a lot of Formula One 772 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,640 news at least Formula One news gets reposted there. 773 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,400 So that's kind of the only reason I, I rarely, rarely, 774 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,520 rarely post there because I don't, I don't really want to be 775 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,960 a part of all that, but I'm just like, yeah, there's, there's 776 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,080 just enough there that I'd like to see, but. 777 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:59,280 Threads really seems awful. I I don't have an account 778 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:06,120 anymore and yeah, every time I have to click a link on there it 779 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,800 it seems atrocious. Like the comments and everything 780 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:18,600 are unhinged. It feels like it's a second X, 781 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,200 like it feels like this some kind of vibe as when you open a 782 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:28,840 thread on X. Oh man, for reasons that will be 783 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,960 revealed later, I have opened a few more threads on X recently 784 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,880 and it is it is wild in the comments like it is it is Yikes 785 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,560 sometimes, especially on. XII don't know if this is true 786 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160 or not, like this is literally just a thing I heard on the 787 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520 Internet so who knows if this is true or not put take a grain of 788 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,840 salt. I believe whatever. 789 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:57,360 This is I I heard that X is now 75% men like like they've just 790 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,800 like ran women off the platform. I I heard this as well, and 791 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,720 again, based on what I've seen in the replies it does seem that 792 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:07,200 way. That's surprising. 793 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:12,160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, grain of salt who I I 794 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640 legitimately do not know if that's true or not, but it 795 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:17,880 really wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't surprise me if 796 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,320 that number is actually like too low and it's more like 80 to 797 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,840 85%. I wonder if it's the same on 798 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,720 threads. I, you know, I'd be very curious 799 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,240 about that. Oh, I saw some comparison here. 800 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:34,720 I think it was better on threads if there's if, I would. 801 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:38,680 Not be surprised if men are also overrepresented on threads 802 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,720 compared to let's say Instagram for some for example. 803 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,040 Oh, I I would bet that 100%, Yeah, yeah. 804 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,120 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 805 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,360 Compared to Instagram, yeah, absolutely. 806 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,360 All right. Any anything else on this? 807 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,320 I mean, Christopher Nolan, he's fine. 808 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,280 He is. He is. 809 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920 My God. I only have two complaints with 810 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,280 him. During his Dark Knight series, 811 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,400 he renamed Racial Goal to Razal Goal. 812 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,320 For some reason it's Racial Goal. 813 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,440 And he renamed the League of Assassins to League of Shadows. 814 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,560 For some reason it's League of Assassins. 815 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,240 I don't. Know. 816 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,160 Why he did that, I actually think that's probably more his 817 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,320 brother because I think his brother was the the writer on 818 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,720 those so. But you know, there is a better, 819 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,240 there is a better version of Christopher Nolan out there, and 820 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:34,760 he's called Denis Villeneuve. I mean, why choose, you know, 821 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,400 Denny? Is I choose I mean. 822 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,040 He's, he's unbelievable. He's he's on an incredible run. 823 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,520 He is. He is pretty great. 824 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,000 I'm so excited that he is directing the next James Bond 825 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,240 movie. Yeah, I heard that and I could 826 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:50,800 not believe it. I was like, sure. 827 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,880 After he finishes June 3, June 3 and. 828 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,320 That's true. Wow. 829 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,120 I'm, I'm OK, I'm really hoping they go back to like the 50s, 830 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,680 like Cold War era James Bond, like like we did the whole 831 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,360 modern James Bond with Daniel Craig. 832 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,640 Like, let's go back to like the gadgety 50s James Bond, Like, 833 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,920 let's revisit that era now because that would be really 834 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,040 fun. But yeah, I, I'm, I'm, I'm 835 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,400 pretty excited about that. I, I really want him to do a 836 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,400 Star Wars movie. I don't know if he would do it, 837 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,800 but a Star Wars movie by him? Wasting potential, maybe. 838 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,880 I don't. I don't think he would do well. 839 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,080 Really. Yeah, I think Disney would ruin 840 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,280 him. Yeah, see he would, he would 841 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,680 need he he would need like I get full creative control. 842 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,080 Yeah, not happening. Yeah. 843 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,760 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. 844 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,240 Bob Iger over your shoulder. Bob Iger's gone. 845 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,160 We got the new guy. We got the guy that's interested 846 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,840 in the parks now, the guy that ran the parks. 847 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,280 Bob Newman What's? In it's Bob Newhart. 848 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,080 Bob Newhart. Yep, it's Bob. 849 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,960 Definitely Bob Newhart. OK, let's move on. 850 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,400 OK, All right. We had a challenge. 851 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,480 It was your challenge. Yes, so the challenge was prank 852 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:23,200 your spouse slash partner with some smart home stuff and yeah, 853 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,120 that's it. I I I think I did well if you. 854 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,360 Want me to start please? I so, you know, we just moved in 855 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,840 to a new house and this is like, we are not in the same city as 856 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:41,760 before we used to live in, which is a fairly large city with 857 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,040 plenty of public transit like tramway lines, buses all around. 858 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,680 Anyway, now we live in a very like a much smaller town that's 859 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:59,120 located in between major cities. Like it, it's not a rural town, 860 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,280 but it like it's, it's in the middle, you know. 861 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,680 And anyway, so there's just one very busy train line that runs 862 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,920 through town. It's very busy train line 863 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:17,560 because it links two big cities. And but that's just our only 864 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,600 public transit basically to get out of the town and go someplace 865 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,520 else. So I have surprised my partner 866 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:34,680 with something they still work in where, where we lived before 867 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,760 in the big in the bigger city. So they take the train every day 868 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,000 and they they need to wake up early and they come home later 869 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,680 than before. And they rely on the train 870 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:51,000 schedule and on knowing when trains arrive, when there are 871 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,120 like late trains, like when there's an incident on the line 872 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,160 or whatever. So surprised Neilion blew up a 873 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,320 train. Neilion. 874 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:08,720 So I bought a train so I surprised them with you Remember 875 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:16,840 we are mad at terminal honest I am, but I still have my 876 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,360 terminal. It's e-waste. 877 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,920 Basically it's just sitting there the. 878 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,680 EE Ink. The ink screen. 879 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,640 From the terminal, for some reason I was thinking Mac OS 880 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,480 terminal and I was like why are we mad at the terminal? 881 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,720 How do we mad at terminal? So yeah, I've not sold it like 882 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:38,360 it is just sitting there. So I just, I'm, I thought I 883 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:44,640 would just use this, put it near the entrance of our place and if 884 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,800 you unfold the spoiler tag in our document, you will see what 885 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,640 it looks like and maybe try to guess what it does. 886 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,040 OK. So it looks like train 887 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,800 schedules, are you having them run early? 888 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,680 Did you set it up so that like they run early and? 889 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,760 No, no, all accurate. All accurate. 890 00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:08,480 OK, I think the prank part is just that I did this silently 891 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,040 like one day. It was just there. 892 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,880 OK. OK. 893 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,360 All right, OK. It wasn't a mean prank, it was 894 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,800 it. Wasn't OK, So basically I 895 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,880 misunderstood this challenge. I misunderstood as well. 896 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:22,840 I mean, it's OK to do a mean thing. 897 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,440 It's funnier at least. So yes, this is basically so you 898 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,080 know where? I don't know, you're not used to 899 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,560 trains. You don't even know how to get 900 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040 on a train do. You why I've got a car I. 901 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,080 Don't need, everything I know about getting onto a train is 902 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,400 from jet lag. I Everything I know about trains 903 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,920 is from Thomas the Tank Engine. That's a stop. 904 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520 Jet lag is a stop. So to get on a train, you go to 905 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,440 the train station. Inside the train station, you 906 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,440 look up at the big screens. There are two big screens 907 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,480 always. There's one for departures and 908 00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,680 one for arrivals. This terminal at in our entrance 909 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,800 of the house is displaying the real time departure screen from 910 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,600 our local train station and it's showing. 911 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,800 So the next trains with the scheduled departure, the 912 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,400 destination on the right side there's a letter that's the the 913 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,960 platform A or B. It's the small station, so 914 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,480 there's just A or B. And as you can see, the 3rd and 915 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:33,800 4th and 5th and and 6th train on this photo right now are late. 916 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,360 They are scheduled to be late, 5 minutes late. 917 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,080 So there's one that will be 20 minutes late apparently. 918 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,640 And it's displaying beneath that the reason for why it's late. 919 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:47,800 So the incident that's currently ongoing. 920 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,600 So right now there's it's saying there's one train that's out of. 921 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,720 How did you call that? It's out of order. 922 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,880 It's it, it broke down, basically, yeah. 923 00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,680 You blew it up. You. 924 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,240 Blew it up. I blew it up. 925 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,160 But the others, the, the ones who which have less late 926 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,480 scheduled are saying that it's just because there's busy 927 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,600 traffic on the train line. So there you go. 928 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,240 And that's, that's just it. I surprised and they were very 929 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:22,840 happy. Very, very, very happy to 930 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,600 explain how I did this. By the way, this was made much 931 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,600 more complicated than I imagined. 932 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:35,640 I had to make a Python script to screenshot a website because 933 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,200 where does this departure table come from? 934 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,640 It comes from somebody who made a website. 935 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,040 Yeah, I'm, I linked it in the show notes if you want to look 936 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,120 at it. It's called Carto Chew. 937 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:56,560 Basically this is a real time interactive live map of all the 938 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,560 trains currently running in France. 939 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,280 It's absolutely amazing. This thing is amazing. 940 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,440 Like you can click on any train on this map. 941 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,880 They are the blue triangles. You will see their current 942 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,320 trajectory, like the stations are coming through and you can 943 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,560 click on any station and see their departure schedule. 944 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,440 You can see the disruptions currently ongoing. 945 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,920 You can enable a heat map of all the late trains in France. 946 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,200 This is absolutely amazing. This is all done using open data 947 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,320 that's provided by the French like state. 948 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,760 So it's all free data provided by the government basically that 949 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,640 you can use to build things like this. 950 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,080 And they, yeah, obviously are local, very tiny local station 951 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,800 is in there. I will not link it. 952 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,920 I'm not going to talk to myself, but if you click on that on our 953 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,840 local train station, you will see the departure table and all 954 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,520 the schedules and everything and you can see as well the trains 955 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,040 coming and going from on our line. 956 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:09,040 This is an amazing website. Just just wanted to mention it 957 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,320 and basically my Python script. What it does is it's screenshots 958 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,840 that departure table from this website every 5 minutes by 959 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,160 spawning like a chromium instance blah blah blah. 960 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,720 On our Linux server at home. It screenshots that and then 961 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:34,760 serves it on a local HTTP like web server that's on the local 962 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,680 network and the terminal is just fetching the like the URL from 963 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,360 that's served from my Linux server at home which is 964 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,280 displaying the just the tiny screenshot of the departure 965 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,200 table. The script also turns it into 966 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,960 black and white so it's easier to control how how it will look 967 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,880 on the E Ink display. So it turned out to be a rabbit 968 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,240 hole. I thought this would take 10 969 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:04,480 minutes to set up. I spent many hours on this, but 970 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,720 I'm very happy I will this will stay in our home entrance 971 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,360 because this is actually very useful. 972 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:13,720 This is very impressive. This is very cool. 973 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:18,320 Oh man. OK, OK, this is cool. 974 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,760 Yeah. So yeah, not mean I I did not go 975 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,880 the mean route, just something fun and I surprised them or 976 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,320 something. OK, OK. 977 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,240 Well. You guys were were nice to your 978 00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,640 spouse as well, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 979 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,000 I went a. Slightly different route. 980 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,400 Yeah, I heard prank. I didn't hear. 981 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,480 Do something nice to for your partner. 982 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,240 Yeah. OK, that's fine. 983 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:52,040 OK, So what I did actually, I could have I, I this would have 984 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,760 actually been a nice thing for codecs to do or for maybe a 985 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,320 Federico shortcut playground thing would help. 986 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:06,160 I created about 20 automations in the Home app to lower the 987 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,000 brightness of the lights in our living room by just like 2% at a 988 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:17,120 time and. Oh, that's genius. 989 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,120 That's great during the evening. During the evening, yes, and so 990 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:31,440 my wife would be like and then it gets so dim so I I, I 991 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,760 literally gas lit my wife. It's a that's. 992 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,680 Great. That's fantastic. 993 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,640 How? How dim did it get? 994 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,960 It got dim enough to notice, but it was definitely a kind of a 995 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,840 frog in a pot situation where you don't really notice it at 996 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,920 the time and there's no way to like have them fade slowly. 997 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,920 I was really wishing I could be like at 6:00 PM, start fading it 998 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,040 for two hours, but you can't really do that. 999 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,000 So it was just a lot of like every, I forgot how many 1000 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,280 minutes. Every like 5 minutes it would 1001 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,320 like just tick down 2%. Just a little, just a little. 1002 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,400 It, it, it was, it was fine. There were no like enormous 1003 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,080 moments, but I, I did have to give it up that I was doing it. 1004 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,040 It took forever to set up the automations. 1005 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,120 It was. So I can't imagine. 1006 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,400 Like, and then to be sitting there like watching like ATV 1007 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:31,160 show and be like it's happening. It's working, but it's a little 1008 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,960 like you can't even tell like it's happening. 1009 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,240 So like I was kind of in the same position as her as like is 1010 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,480 it is it darker? I can't really tell. 1011 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,600 So it's fun, but I I've disabled those all because they were very 1012 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,040 annoying. And then you blew up a train. 1013 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,120 And then I blew. This is how you blow up a pipe, 1014 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,080 a pipeline. This is I guess. 1015 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,040 We are so going to be on an FBI watch list up to this episode. 1016 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,920 Wow. So I did something kind of 1017 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:08,040 similar to Matt, sort of I, I built an automation so that when 1018 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,640 you would turn on a light, a specific light that I knew 1019 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,400 Danielle would turn on that it would like wait 5 seconds and 1020 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,760 then turn off. So that way she would have to 1021 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:24,920 get up and hit the button again. But but guys, so I built the 1022 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,000 automation and I tested it while she was gone. 1023 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,600 So I know it worked, but this was not a good week for that. 1024 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,680 We have a new puppy. She had a crazy work schedule. 1025 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,640 This was I so I had no, no point. 1026 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,480 Did I turn it on for her. I, I built it, but I didn't turn 1027 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:47,080 it on for her because I was like, this is how I get dumped. 1028 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,040 Like this is how I, I lose my relationship. 1029 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,040 I lose everything. This was not a good week to do 1030 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,040 that. Like we, we've been chasing 1031 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,800 Riley around. We've been like, like one point 1032 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,320 Riley stepped in her own poop, then ran inside. 1033 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,200 It was like, OK, like this is not. 1034 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,840 This was not a good week for that. 1035 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,720 And on top of that, she had a crazy work schedule. 1036 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,560 So I built it and it was ready to go. 1037 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,400 I just never enabled it. Chicken down. 1038 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,240 I did chicken out. I didn't want to get dumped. 1039 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,560 I mean, what you could have done apparently, is just do something 1040 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,680 really nice, yeah. See that's what it like if I 1041 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,640 would have known that's what the challenge was because that was 1042 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,720 that is not the state. Yeah, I didn't realize how prank 1043 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:33,840 could be. Just do. 1044 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,480 Something nice for your partner. I mean it's. 1045 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,560 Not really a prank. But I feel like they should have 1046 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,000 a moment where they're like, what? 1047 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,840 What the Hell's? Going on, what is happening? 1048 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,240 Yeah, what happened like. That they were surprised. 1049 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,800 See that thing in the entrance? OK, OK. 1050 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,960 OK, yeah, I mean, I could have done something really nice for 1051 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,280 Danielle. I you know what? 1052 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,720 I'm going to give her the Xbox in the living room this whole 1053 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,640 weekend and let her play Lego Batman. 1054 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,280 I'm just I that's, that's cuz she is very excited about a new 1055 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,200 Lego game. So that's that's the nice thing 1056 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,320 I'll do for her. OK, good prank. 1057 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,560 Yeah, I'm not sure that's a prank, but I'll let her have it. 1058 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,680 Maybe I'll take the batteries out of her Xbox controller. 1059 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,920 That's way on the other end of this. 1060 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:26,920 Picture I'll throw out a little extra batteries, it'll be great. 1061 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,760 I'll throw out her controller. You know what I'll do is I'll, 1062 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,560 I'll take the HDMI cable out of the wall. 1063 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,200 So there's no HDMI cable going from the TV to the Xbox, and our 1064 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,040 TV is mounted on the wall, so it goes into the wall. 1065 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,560 There you go. That's what I'll do. 1066 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,640 No, I'm not going to do that anyways. 1067 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,080 Yeah, so I chickened out. I'm sorry. 1068 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,560 I didn't want to get dumped. That's OK, That's OK. 1069 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,200 You didn't win, but it's OK. That's fine. 1070 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,880 Dimming. Dimming slowly the lights. 1071 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,360 That was pretty good. That was pretty good. 1072 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,280 I you know what, Matt? I think we'll give you 1. 1073 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,280 Sure. We'll allow it this one time. 1074 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,080 It's a nice thing we're doing for you, Matt, but it's your 1075 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,160 challenge this next week. What do you got for us? 1076 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,240 You may regret this immediately. A challenge is just three words. 1077 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,920 Join a cult. Can I start a cult? 1078 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,040 No. I really think I'd make a great 1079 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,960 cult leader. I all cult leaders do. 1080 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,240 I I really do think I would make a great cult leader. 1081 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,520 I think I could be a really good like, like I, I'm, I'm animated, 1082 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,960 you know, I could get people to follow me. 1083 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,920 Yeah. Join a cult. 1084 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,880 I mean I would say join a cult. Don't start a cult kids don't 1085 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,280 start cults. Does it have to? 1086 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,000 Be a real cult. I mean well listen, it was more 1087 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,920 of a software cult so you could use Superhuman. 1088 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,360 Of course the the the absolute GOAT of software cults. 1089 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,920 I don't pay for anything necessarily. 1090 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,960 Obsidian is a cult. Notion is a cult. 1091 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:12,160 I would argue BB Edit is a cult. Launch Bar is a cult. 1092 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,280 I'm installing Linux. Linux is a cult. 1093 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,520 Linux is definitely a cult. Linux. 1094 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,400 Once you're in, you're in. You're in for life. 1095 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,480 Yeah, so you may escape a little bit, but they'll they'll bring 1096 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,760 you back. So join a cult, use, use a cult, 1097 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,800 use an app with a or something with a cult following that you 1098 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,480 don't typically use. Use it a little bit. 1099 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,200 Oh. OK, OK, OK. 1100 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,480 Interesting. OK, cool. 1101 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,320 Alright. Have to think on this for a bit. 1102 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:54,320 That was good, that was good. See, problem is I'm already part 1103 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,920 of cults Canon. Apple Obsidian. 1104 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,480 Looked up Pepper. Doctor Pepper. 1105 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,280 See. A cult of 1, though I don't know 1106 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,360 if there's like a Doctor Pepper is. 1107 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,840 There Mastodon the cult. Mastodon's definitely a cult. 1108 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,720 You talk about any other social media on Mastodon, people get 1109 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,920 mad at you. They're back. 1110 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,440 Well, they're not Federated. They're not properly Federated. 1111 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,680 That's true. How? 1112 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,440 How journey. That's not a cult, That's just. 1113 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:26,680 True, by the way. By the way, The Verge, did you 1114 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,720 see what The Verge did? Yeah, they Federated the quick 1115 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,120 post things. Yeah, this. 1116 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,920 They announced that they were federating like the quick post 1117 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:38,040 on their homepage to and when you look at the fine prints. 1118 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,720 I I really don't know what that means by the. 1119 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,840 Way, yeah. So I don't want to trash talk 1120 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,920 them, but but I will a little bit. 1121 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,960 It seems like by federating they mean we are just duplicating 1122 01:04:52,960 --> 01:05:02,120 that post and so basically cross busting on blue sky threads and 1123 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,760 there was another one and that's it, isn't that it? 1124 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,960 Yes. Mastodon. 1125 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:11,200 There's no Mastodon because like this saying like the Fred's 1126 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:16,480 account is Federated so it shows up on Mastodon. 1127 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,920 So technically. It's actually federating 1128 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,520 anything. What they're doing is they 1129 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,800 literally just have an automation set up to take a 1130 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,640 quick post and post it to. These others like it, but also 1131 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,520 they're saying like the replies to the posts are supposed to 1132 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,200 show up on the website. And they do. 1133 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,920 I didn't see that. Yeah, which is which seems 1134 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,120 weird. It seems like they have two bots 1135 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,880 set up, one to cross post and the other to scrape the replies 1136 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,080 and copy them. Why? 1137 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,280 First off, why do you even have comments on? 1138 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,160 Yeah, that's if. If it wasn't so ingrained in the 1139 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,320 YouTube culture I would turn comments off. 1140 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,920 You cannot turn comments off. You cannot turn comments off. 1141 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,360 It is ingrained like Apple is the only people that turn 1142 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,000 comments off and even they are starting to come around. 1143 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,240 All does it like penalize you in the? 1144 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,280 Algorithm. Well, people just are like. 1145 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,080 This guy has no confidence. He's doing like, like it is. 1146 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,280 It is a huge faux pas. It is like. 1147 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,560 And and comments are part of the engagement algorithm too. 1148 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,200 Yeah, true. So anyways. 1149 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,400 But yeah, no. Wow. 1150 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,120 So Mastodon is not a cult, but I do have a sticker right here on 1151 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:29,720 my mic. See. 1152 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,880 Mastodon is definitely. That's the kind of a cult. 1153 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,960 That is Mastodon. I have the Mastodon flashy on 1154 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,840 the. Two of the elephant so. 1155 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,880 Can I? Can I? 1156 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,000 I'm gonna join the Ford cult. Can can I join the? 1157 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,000 Can I? Just buy another car Chris. 1158 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,760 You are actually not short on cults. 1159 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,120 You are. Yeah, you know. 1160 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,720 Pretty heavy on cults. But my cults are good cults like 1161 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,560 I've. Got good cults. 1162 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,240 OK, OK, I've. Got great cults. 1163 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,960 I've got the best cults. No, nobody's cults are as good 1164 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,600 as mine. You should see my cult numbers. 1165 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,320 My cult numbers are off the chart. 1166 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,440 We have the best best cult numbers. 1167 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,880 Oh boy. OK, OK. 1168 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,240 All right. So that brings us to the end of 1169 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,240 the show and I got an in the show question for you and it's 1170 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,280 mostly a follow up question, but I want to know what web browser 1171 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,520 you're currently using what what web browser is open right now? 1172 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:22,800 Not not what might be your default browser, but what web 1173 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,920 browser is currently. Open and that has 10 browser. 1174 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:34,760 Web browser. You can type a URL into it and 1175 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,360 it resolves. There's there's a bar in there 1176 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,960 you can type it. You can type in just 1177 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:46,320 birchtree.me.co.uk.gov dot. What if I have a couple of them 1178 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,240 open? OK, what are they just? 1179 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,720 I have you know what? It's 3 Chromium browsers and my 1180 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,920 battery life is great. Helium is my go to. 1181 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,520 It remains my go to just day-to-day browser. 1182 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,320 Dia is my work browser and Vivaldi for whatever reason is 1183 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,720 where I just have comfort zone siloed in here. 1184 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,960 So I this is where I have the tier list app bookmarked. 1185 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,720 That's where I have Riverside ready to go. 1186 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,200 So I have 3 apps open right now and again all Chromium, great 1187 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:19,479 battery life. Neilion, can I just answer for 1188 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:20,479 you? Yeah. 1189 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,240 Chrome. What do you mean no, I'm. 1190 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,600 Just kidding. No, it's Vivaldi. 1191 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,560 It's got to be. Vivaldi OK, I'm still on. 1192 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,960 Vivaldi. Nice, I'm still using Dia. 1193 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,279 I'm pretty happy with Dia. I'm still using. 1194 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,000 Dia, you were supposed to give us an update. 1195 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,000 Pretty happy with it. I tried the the tabs at the top 1196 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,080 like you suggested. I immediately went back to the 1197 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:44,359 sidebar. I love the side. 1198 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,560 I love the sidebar. The sidebar is great. 1199 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,439 I haven't finished. I'm I'm in the process of 1200 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,640 setting up 1 password and all that stuff. 1201 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,120 I just haven't quite I've been it's been a crazy week. 1202 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,920 It's it's been. You know I'm I'm becoming an 1203 01:09:00,279 --> 01:09:04,600 anti sidebar in browsers. I think I'm turning around. 1204 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,399 I think then you should use. Safari. 1205 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,560 People go Safari. This is what I'm saying. 1206 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,200 Sometimes sidebar, sometimes tab, sometimes top, it doesn't 1207 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,399 matter. I think. 1208 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:19,640 The sidebar killed top bars. Anyone who uses top bars is 1209 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,080 overthinking it and I feel sad for people that are using the 1210 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,120 top tabs. Christopher Nolan doesn't use 1211 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:32,399 top tabs. Title. 1212 01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,359 Title. That is the title of the 1213 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:35,760 episode. Christopher Nolan doesn't use 1214 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,920 top tabs. All right, thank you all so much 1215 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,200 for listening. Have a great day.