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Welcome to Comfort Zone, a 
podcast all about pushing your 

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hosts well outside of their 
comfort zone. 

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I am Christopher Lawley and each
week I am joined by two 

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incredible Co hosts. 
But this week unfortunately one 

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of our Co hosts is moving so I'm
only joined by one Co host and 

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that Co host is Matt Burchler. 
Hello. 

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It's me, Matt are. 
You are not currently moving, 

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are you? 
I'm not currently moving. 

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I hope to not have to move for a
very long time. 

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I am in that same boat. 
I think I might have one more 

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move left but I'm like I did 2 
moves in under 2 years. 

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I, I don't I'm good. 
But Neil Leon is moving this 

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week. 
So what this means is we said we

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would do episode 100 together. 
So this is not episode 100. 

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This is episode 101. 
So nobody's allowed to 

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congratulate us on it being 
episode 100. 

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Oh no, Chris, I had my air horn 
all ready to go. 

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I was ready to celebrate episode
100. 

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You have to. 
You have to save it for a week 

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because we can't do episode 100 
without Neilion. 

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OK, well if I can't use the air 
horn. 

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Oh yeah, we're a classy show 
now. 

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Oh my God, I love it so much. 
OK yes, so we're not doing 

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episode 100 this week because I 
just don't feel it's right to do

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it without neon. 
So this is episode 101, though 

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in the CMS it'll probably say 
episode 100 because I don't know

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how to mess with. 
All it is going to break 

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everything so the CMS will say 
what 100, but we all know it's a

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lie. 
Every comfort zone with your 

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nose. 
This is a lie episode. 

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One O 1. 
This is the way. 

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Really going to throw off the 
whole YouTube stuff like the 

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playlist, like it's going to 
really mess up some stuff, but 

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that's OK. 
Last week I wasn't here because 

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I was getting my puppy. 
Stay to the end of the show and 

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maybe click over to the video 
version or there'll be a link to

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her Instagram in the description
if I remember to get Matt that 

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link. 
Reminder reminder get. 

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Yes, because my puppy has an 
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She also has a TikTok account. 
But Danielle is actually the one

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managing all this, not me. 
Anyways, that's all besides the 

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point. 
I'm sorry. 

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I have not slept much. 
It's like having a child. 

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But I was laughing myself 
editing last week's episode, 

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especially when I got to the 
challenge part. 

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Both of you guys did an 
excellent job and thank you to 

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both of you for covering for me 
while I was out. 

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But the challenge was fantastic.
New Leon could have used a bit 

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more task managers and Matt, I, 
I do feel you could have covered

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that display a bit more. 
I I do feel there was a lot of 

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real estate left. 
I I agree, I actually I thought 

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it was going to be higher. 
I I my 3D printer only prints so

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tall. 
It was a it was a limit. 

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It's now in the garbage. 
For what it's worth, it was 

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Thank you not. 
Suitable. 

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The 3D printer is in the 
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You're getting a. 
Bigger 3D printer so you can't 

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worry about that. 
No you you clearly need to get a

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bigger 3D printer so you can 
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Oh, I'm. 
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OK, OK, you're right. 
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again in 100 episodes, I'll, 
I'll get a bigger printer. 

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That's my guarantee. 
There you go. 

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But yeah, no, it's a great 
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If you haven't listened, go go 
listen to it because I was 

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laughing and I got some good 
tips out of it from your guys's 

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main topics. 
I also appreciated your rant on 

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the reviewers of the Logitech MX
master mouse and and how you 

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know, I I held, I still have my 
3S and I took the four and I put

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them like I was jumping back. 
I couldn't really tell much of a

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difference, but OK, I guess 
that's just me. 

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I I could tell the difference in
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OK. 
Fair enough. 

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I have a tiny topic. 
That's just one little thing. 

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In the early days of the show, I
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I brought a tea kettle and I was
told that's not tech. 

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I mean, I think we actually came
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it's tech. 
If it has power, it's tech. 

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OK, well I just wanted to say I 
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tech, but it feels kind of tacky
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brought it as my topic this week
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impressed with it. 
I almost brought a garbage can. 

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What? 
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this more at some point, But I 
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which I think is a meme is a is,
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impression is these are like 
$400.00 garbage cans that use 

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proprietary bags. 
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case. 
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ones, but those are for like big
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But you can get like a normal 
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I got mine for, you know, a 
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a lot, but it is nice. 
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It's we're talking tiny topics, 
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where I thought it would be so 
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And then I got 1 and there's so 
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well that make me appreciate it.
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one, but I'll keep getting the 
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And then I used it. 
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clever. 
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And Oh yeah, on Amazon, they 
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even cheaper than the Target 
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So I just wanted to say simple 
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think and actually way better 
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for garbage cans. 
Matt, you've joined another cult

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like I'm looking at this thing 
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OK so the the typical kitchen 55
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can is 200 bucks. 
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That's bigger. 
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going to get confused because 
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liter. 
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I got a slightly smaller 1 and 
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going out of business or is just
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clearance thing and so 
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it for a little less. 
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a link to the one I have. 
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I thought it was going to be the
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I I changed my mind. 
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have to get a garbage can with a
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because Riley and she is going 
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So maybe I don't know, this does
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Does it does it plug in? 

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Does is this tech? 
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Doesn't plug in, but it does run
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the what? 
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power? 
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There's a sensor and you can 
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you, if you don't want the 
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when you are close to it, you 
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that's even cheaper. 
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So entry to the cult much 
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I I I appreciate a good cult 
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entry. 
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stuff. 
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so it doesn't get like all like 
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Air it. 
Has a little here here's the 

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cool thing. 
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This is getting less tiny, but 
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The garbage bags, they are in 
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almost sort of thing. 
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backside of the can. 
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it's already in there and it's 
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You just pull it out and you 
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across and it's perfect and it's
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It's great. 
That's genius, Matt. 

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You just made me spend money. 
Damn it, Matt. 

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Link in the description, not in 
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All right, no. 
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Get that bag. 
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Bag. 
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Garbage bag. 
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actually kind of interesting. 
OK yeah, send me a link to this.

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I'm I'm very curious about this.
This week on Cozy Zone, we 

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roasted our listeners old home 
screen setups and it was it was 

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actually really fun. 
It was a nice like trip down 

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memory lane of old apps and 
there was some jailbroken stuff 

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in there that was wild. 
There was and there was one home

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screen that really is a is 
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There always is. 
And one person put the camera 

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icon in the right position. 
We. 

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Finally got someone doing it. 
Finally, I appreciate them if 

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you want. 
To see Chris happy, check it 

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out. 
Yes, and everyone should want to

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see me happy. 
I mean, I got a puppy this week.

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I'm I've been overjoyed. 
I've like taking the week off of

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work. 
I've spent the whole week 

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playing with a puppy. 
I mean, what more could you do? 

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What more could you want? 
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For those that don't know, Cozy 
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It's 5 bucks a month. 
You get an extra episode of us 

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every single week where we just 
kind of talk about things that 

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are a little more loosey goosey,
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And then sometimes we go off the
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logos and how evanescence they 
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That's true. 
That is a scale that we explored

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deeply. 
I was robbed. 

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I have a classic all the small 
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I kind of wanted to go over some
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So a few weeks ago I talked 
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360 no scope gamer bro monitor 
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I'm still loving this monitor. 
I absolutely like that it is I 

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I'm very impressed with this 
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Yes, it's not proper Apple 
retina PPI, but I've did the 

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display things and Matt, you 
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yours isn't on the like super 
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that is way too big. 
You need to go into the display 

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settings, pick the middle option
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It's good. 
It work, it's it's good. 

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I'm telling you it's good. 
I, I Christopher Lally, I'm 

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telling you it's good, so you 
should be OK with that. 

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I need the buttons big enough 
where if my fist was if it was a

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touch screen, I could use my 
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button. 
It's so big. 

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The default option is so big. 
It's so it's so unbelievable. 

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Anyways, OK, I've actually sold 
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I sold it the other day. 
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It was the thing that's that 
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I plug the studio display back 
in and I saw I have So on my 

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MacBook Pro, I have an Artemis 2
mission photo of the moon as my 

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wallpaper. 
I plugged my MacBook Pro into 

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that. 
I saw what the black levels look

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like and I was like, Yep, Nope. 
I can't go back. 

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I can't. 
The OLED monitors ruined me. 

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And I'm not paying the $3600 for
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yeah, no. 
So the, the, the, the Asus 

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monitor is here to stay. 
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I moved around my gaming setup. 
So my PS-5, which is the 

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original digital day one PS 5 is
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like a it's, it's actually down 
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and I have like a 10 foot HDMI 
cable going to the monitor. 

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But I have a question for you, 
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Should I get APS 5 pro because I
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issue is I want the best and 
I've been looking at my back 

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catalog of games that I want to 
play and a lot of them have PS-5

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pro support but the PS-5 Pro is 
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Thank you. 
Really expensive. 

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OK I do have APS 5 pro OK. 
I do kind of regret getting the 

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PS-5 Pro really it is better but
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I I guess the math would be 
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have a gaming PC as well. 
The the problem for me is that 

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it's it's better than APS 5 but 
like the PC is still way better 

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so it's not like it's not like 
the best the best way to play 

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games. 
The nice thing, and it depends 

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on what sort of gamer you are, 
if you are fine with 30FPS 

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games, then it's not going to be
great. 

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But on pretty much every game, 
if the normal mode is like 30 

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FPS on the PS-5, it's going to 
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Pro, and it will probably go at 
a higher resolution. 

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They have PSSR, which is kind of
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better in the version 2 that 
just came out like a month ago. 

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And yeah, I mean, it's if you 
want the best of the best, yes. 

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The reason I got it was for 
Death Stranding 2 last year, 

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because it was PS-5 only and 
there's no PC version. 

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And I wanted to play that. 
The best of the best. 

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Ironically, that's one of the 
smallest upgrades, it turns out.

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So it wasn't the best choice. 
But yeah, I mean, if you want 

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the best of the best, and 
especially because you're 

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coming, you're like an Xbox guy 
traditionally. 

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So you're coming from Xbox and 
you wanted to feel like not only

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are you getting the PlayStation 
experience, but like the games 

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look better across the board? 
They will, They will, OK. 

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And, and I should probably 
explain the reason why I went 

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with the PlayStation in my 
office here is so I do have an 

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Xbox Series X and that was mine 
before Danielle and I moved in 

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together. 
But she really likes Xbox 

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achievements. 
So I would not be allowed to 

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take that away from the living 
room. 

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So that is staying in the living
room and that's kind of just 

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becoming hers and the 
PlayStation is where I'm playing

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a majority of my games now. 
I already had APS five. 

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I got this this I actually got 
the PS-5 before I got the Xbox 

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and I was thinking about 
building a gaming PC instead of 

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bringing the PS-5 in here 
because I was thinking about OK,

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I could sell the PS-5. 
The price is going up on PS 

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fives. 
I could probably actually make 

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most of my money back on the day
one digital version, but what I 

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realized is there were 
PlayStation only games and it 

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sounds like PlayStation is kind 
of rethinking the bringing games

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to the PC even after their timed
exclusive. 

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And on top of that, GTA 6 is 
only coming out for the consoles

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at 1st and it'll probably be a 
year or two before it comes out 

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on the PC and I'm that day one. 
That's going to be a big high. 

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That's going to be a game that I
would hope would because it's 

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pushing the envelope for a lot 
of graphics stuff in such a big 

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world and everything that we're 
expecting. 

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So that one might benefit. 
That's that's another reason why

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I'm thinking I should just get 
the PS-5 Pro now because it's 

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going to it's going to run so 
much better on it. 

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Like I really wouldn't be 
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per second game on the regular 
PS-5. 

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I would expect that, yes. 
So that's why I'm like, we 

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should just get APS 5 Pro. 
Yeah, I hate it. 

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I hate it. 
And like, the price of the thing

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has gone up so much it's 
ridiculous. 

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Well, yeah, that's, that's the 
thing as well that makes brings 

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me a little piece is it's like 
200. 

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It was like $200 less when I 
bought it. 

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Yeah, which is crazy. 
It's ridiculous. 

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I mean, I bought my SO I have 
the PS-5 digital version and so 

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I bought that for 400 bucks when
that originally came out and 

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it's like 600 now or something 
like that. 

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Like it's ridiculous. 
But I will say games look 

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fantastic on the Sol LED 
monitor. 

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I have always, always been a 
consoles plugged into TV person.

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I don't think I've ever plugged 
a console into a monitor before.

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And oh boy, wow, is this cool. 
Like sitting up close to it 

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looks good. 32 inches, You know,
I have a 77 inch TV, but a 32 

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inch monitor, you would think, 
OK, 77 inch TV is going to be a 

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lot better. 
But the way our living room is 

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situated, I sit pretty far back.
Having a gaming monitor is way 

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better. 
It's fantastic. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, and you've got high frame 

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rate, high refresh rate too. 
I do. 

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So I that monitor goes up to 240
frames per second. 

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PlayStation 5 supports variable 
refresh rate. 

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It also supports 1440P if if the
game wants to run at that. 

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So that's nice like I have all 
the options with this monitor, 

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which is, which is fantastic. 
When I talked about this monitor

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originally, I did mention the 
one thing that I wasn't sure how

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I was going to do was audio. 
And for a while I was just 

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plugging headphones into the 
PlayStation controller, but I 

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was like, I don't really like 
this, this sucks. 

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Now I have this cable I got to 
deal with. 

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It's just it's not great. 
So I figured, so I use Clod and 

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I was like, OK, let's start 
doing some research and I was 

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looking for wireless headphones 
that worked with the PlayStation

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and found a bunch of different 
options. 

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And the ones that ended up going
with are do you have a drum roll

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on that machine? 
There? 

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You need a drum roll. 
OK, that works. 

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I mean it's not that exciting 
but I got the Razor Black Shark 

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version 3 Pro wireless 
headphones and these are very 

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gamery headphones. 
All of your purposes recently 

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are like, I know. 
So you're exiting your Apple era

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and entering your your 360 no 
scope era. 

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This is very unlike me, very 
much like what is happening like

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I I'm shocked there is an RGB 
just glowing off this, but these

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are actually really nice 
headphones. 

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They have support. 
So OK headphone annoyance time, 

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their headphones, they have two 
speakers, but if you look at 

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these things, they claim that 
they support. 

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Oh I didn't put a link in the 
description sorry I thought I 

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did. 
But if you if you look at these 

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things they claim they do Dolby 
surround sound 7.1 but that's 

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not possible because they don't 
have 7 speakers in a subwoofer. 

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But they emulate 7.1 surround 
sound and the emulation of that 

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actually sounds pretty good for 
headphones. 

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Like I've been using Airpods Max
and plugging them into the 

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controller. 
These sound better for games 

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than the Airpods Max do because 
it's doing that emulation. 

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Whereas Airpods Max was just 
doing left and right, it was 

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just doing stereo. 
Yeah. 

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Well, because yeah, Airpods can 
do doby Atmos, which is another 

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standard for like surround sound
through stereo speakers. 

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But if PS-5 doesn't do that. 
Exactly because Microsoft has 

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Dolby Atmos license for the 
Xbox, so the PlayStation can't 

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do Dolby Atmos, which is a 
whole, which was another reason 

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why I was a big Xbox person, 
because my sound system on my TV

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at Dolby Atmos. 
It's a whole thing, people, huh?

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Oh boy, nothing better than 
video and audio standards, you 

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know? 
Right. 

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And then like people and people 
licensing them so competitors 

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can't use them and stuff like 
that. 

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It's a whole thing. 
But you know what, I'm really 

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happy with these. 
So these have ANC and they also 

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have a transparency mode as 
well. 

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I've been using the transparency
mode so when Danielle walks in, 

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I don't jump 20 feet in the air 
when she touches my shoulder 

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because I'm playing some game 
and some creepy thing is 

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crawling up and she grabs me 
just as that. 

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Another reason why I went with 
these is they have a detachable 

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mic. 
I do not play multiplayer 

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online. 
I am not a Fortnighter. 

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I don't Fortnite. 
I, I, I have, I have played a 

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Fortnite. 
You know, the first time I ever 

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played a Fortnite, I won. 
And like, I was at my brother's 

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bachelor party and I won and 
they were all losing their mind.

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I was like, why are you guys? 
And they're like, oh, this is a 

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hard thing to do. 
And I was like, didn't seem that

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hard, but whatever. 
I, I don't know if I just got 

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lucky or whatever, but you got 
lucky. 

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I was like, I was like, OK, all 
right, whatever. 

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But yeah. 
So they have a detachable mic, 

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they charge via USBC. 
They have like 48 hours of 

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battery life. 
And the nice thing is when the 

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PlayStation turns off, it 
notices that and like 30 seconds

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later these turn off. 
So I don't have to worry about 

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turning them off to save that 
battery life. 

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You do have to manually turn 
them on when the PlayStation 

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turns on though, but it's not 
that big a deal. 

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OK, so there is a power button 
as. 

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Well, yes, there is right there.
OK, Yeah. 

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So that's that's kind of nice. 
So it's A and C you know, there 

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is mic volume on here. 
You can mute the mic if you're 

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like into that the end. 
But what I really love is 

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there's a big knob on the side 
on the on the left ear cup here 

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that you can control the volume 
of the headphones. 

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So you can just you can crank 
that. 

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That's really nice. 
And most importantly, they're 

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comfy. 
If you're going to be playing 

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for 8 hours or whatever, like 
they're comfy, I like them. 

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Nice. 
And the wireless works good, 

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like in terms of latency, like 
you don't feel like there's any 

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issues there. 
Yes, it has really low latency. 

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So there is a dongle that comes 
with this thing that plugs into 

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the PlayStation and that I think
is what helps with the latency. 

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But there is no noticeable 
latency whatsoever. 

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I think it's like under 10 
milliseconds of latency. 

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So if you could notice that you 
are Superman, cause 10 

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milliseconds is I, I don't even 
think it's, I may not even be 

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that. 
I'm sorry, I, I should have 

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wrote that down. 
But it is no noticeable latency 

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whatsoever. 
Like I've been playing Starfield

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lately and I shoot a gun in 
Starfield, it sounds of gunshot.

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So yeah, I, I'm, I'm pretty, 
pretty happy with that. 

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But yeah, that's, that's kind of
my gaming set up. 

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Like I said, I'm I'm kind of 
torn between getting APS 5 Pro, 

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especially with what it sounds 
like the PSPS 6 is being delayed

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for a few years because of 
storage and memory prices and 

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all that stuff. 
It sounds like that that it may 

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not be a bad thing to get APS 5 
Pro, especially with some 

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upcoming games like Wolverine. 
Man, I'm excited for oh. 

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Yeah, Wolverine, I hope it's 
great. 

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And Double O 7, the new Double O
7 game that comes out I think 

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next month. 
It's pretty soon, yeah. 

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Yeah, I think it's next month. 
I think it's like end of June or

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something like that. 
Very excited for that there's. 

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New new Forza Horizon game 
coming out I think this week as 

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this episode's released I think 
comes out to literally the day. 

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Is it, is it being released day 
and day on the PS-5? 

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Nice that yeah, Microsoft kind 
of like going like, Yep, we're 

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just going to release stuff on 
the PS-5. 

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Has really helped me because I 
know like Fable. 

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I love Fable games that I have 
played all the Fable games. 

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I have like 100% of them. 
I love the Fable games. 

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There's a new Fable game coming 
out supposedly at the end of 

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this year. 
It's going to be released the 

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same day on the PS-5. 
I'm like Yep OK cool, I'm in Yep

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so yeah. 
So that's kind of my gaming 

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setup. 
The the one other thing I wanted

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to mention is I3D printed an 
ergonomic stand for the magic 

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trackpad. 
Link will be in the show notes. 

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This thing has been amazing, 
like my hand feels so good using

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this and what's nice is. 
Oh, I've seen these OK. 

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Yeah, so it puts it at an angle.
So your hand is, oh, let me turn

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it off so I don't start doing 
things. 

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So it's it's for video viewers, 
you'll see it's angled. 

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So your hand is kind of in a 
more ergonomic position. 

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It's not flat, it's more 
ergonomic. 

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This has been really nice. 
Now the one thing I will say is 

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the model is very tall. 
So what I did is I shrunk the Y 

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axis by 70% and that really 
seemed to help. 

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But if you're somebody that has.
A 3D printer. 

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Or access to a 3D printer and 
uses a magic trackpad. 

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Highly recommend printing one of
these. 

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It's made using the Magic 
Trackpad a lot better. 

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Wait. 
It it angles it to the side. 

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Yes, it angles it. 
To the side, so your hands kind 

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of like that. 
Oh. 

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OK. 
Yeah. 

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So it's because. 
That's the way like 

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ergonomically, that's the way 
that you your hand goes like so 

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00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,160
here you should see you should 
be able to see my desk. 

446
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,240
I will make my my me the full 
screen person. 

447
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,360
So you can see right here. 
It's kind of angled up. 

448
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,200
So that way like it's kind of 
where your hand just naturally 

449
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,120
goes. 
And it took, it didn't take that

450
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,520
long to get used to it. 
It was pretty quick and now it 

451
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,080
feels weird to use it without 
it. 

452
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,040
OK. 
Nice. 

453
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,160
Yeah. 
I thought it was like a trick of

454
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080
the camera or something. 
At first I was like, why is it 

455
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,280
angled that? 
Nope. 

456
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Way Nope. 
That's because that's like the 

457
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,560
ergonomic position that you 
should be using it. 

458
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,640
But Apple wants everything to be
flat and this, this doesn't feel

459
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,680
good anymore Like that actually 
hurts my wrist like this. 

460
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,320
This feels much better. 
Well, what? 

461
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
You need to do now you need to 
try out there. 

462
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,960
You know how there's like those 
vertical mice where like you, 

463
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,760
you like, hold them like a 
handshake? 

464
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,600
That's what you should get your 
magic track pad set up like 

465
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,120
that. 
Oh yeah, Yeah. 

466
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,080
Yeah, just just just full 
vertical, just like, yeah, just 

467
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,560
like. 89° just a slight angle so
it doesn't fall off actually. 

468
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,280
There you go it. 
Stands on its own 90° right 

469
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,080
there. 
Perfect. 

470
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,920
Now you could put like a. 
You don't even. 

471
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,560
Need to print anything. 
You could just get like a little

472
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,640
Velcro like strap so it like 
sticks to your hand and then 

473
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,880
your thumb doing whatever it 
needs to do. 

474
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,440
Yeah, cut this this. 
Is our billion dollar idea. 

475
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,680
Don't tell anyone else no one. 
Is allowed to steal this TM pad 

476
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720
and pending comfort zone Yeah 
yeah. 

477
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Anyway, just an. 
Idea. 

478
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,120
Just an idea. 
So that's what I got. 

479
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:26,040
For you this week, gaming setup,
just kind of been tweaking my 

480
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,560
setups and just kind of getting 
everything dialed in for the 

481
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760
summer. 
I think we're just a few weeks 

482
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,680
away from WWDC, which is what I 
consider to be the start of the 

483
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960
summer for me at least. 
You know, just kind of the way 

484
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,920
my my life works out. 
And I have a really good feeling

485
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,480
that this is going to be a big 
WWDC, not necessarily for the 

486
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,520
iPad, but for the ecosystem. 
OK, just a vibe. 

487
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,120
Just a vibe. 
Nope. 

488
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,880
No. 
Not OK, not a vibe, whatever. 

489
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200
You want to call it just just a.
Feeling. 

490
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,160
Just a feeling, just a feeling, 
just a feeling. 

491
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,720
Well, that's exciting. 
Anyways, that's what I got for 

492
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,640
you this week. 
Unless you have any questions, 

493
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,960
I'd love to hear what you have 
for me. 

494
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,560
I also have a small thing but 
just one OK which. 

495
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,920
Is. 
I am an Apple Watch guy, OK? 

496
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Always have. 
Been. 

497
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,080
Used to be literally. 
What I was known for until there

498
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,800
was nothing else to talk about 
and I moved to other things. 

499
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,440
But I one of the things I love 
to do is to run. 

500
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,400
I'm a big runner, so I actually 
just hit 100 miles for the year.

501
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Congratulations. 
A couple of years ago, it took. 

502
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,560
Me like most of the year to do 
that. 

503
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,480
So to do it in the first few 
months is cool. 

504
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,440
Including winter and when I was 
sick and traveling anyway. 

505
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,800
And and and for the record. 
You have real, real winter, not 

506
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000
California winter. 
So yeah, like, it's literally. 

507
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040
Like I will slip and fall and 
die if I run during some of 

508
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,880
those. 
So it's risky. 

509
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Damn. 
But I've always used Apple's 

510
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,880
workouts to track my runs and it
works fine. 

511
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,920
I'm not. 
There are some things I need the

512
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,320
best of the best calendars. 
I need something that's awesome,

513
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320
further stuff, just something 
that works. 

514
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,680
And Apple workouts just worked. 
It's good. 

515
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,880
It has auto detection. 
I really like that feature. 

516
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,640
And yeah, it works. 
It works well. 

517
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,880
However, I had a thought. 
Why did I have this? 

518
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,760
I don't actually know what's 
spurred this thought, but I was 

519
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,560
like, Strava's a thing, Neil. 
I mentioned it on a recent 

520
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,080
episode of one of our cozy 
zones, actually, how it caused 

521
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,960
military strife. 
Oh, yeah, So I but so maybe that

522
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,240
that jostled something in me. 
So anyway, I installed Strava, 

523
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,360
which I haven't used in many, 
many years. 

524
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,760
And I've been used to track my 
runs for the last few weeks. 

525
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,800
And I got to say. 
It's pretty cool. 

526
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,000
It's pretty nice. 
It is. 

527
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,280
The big thing about it is the 
social aspect, which I have not 

528
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,080
gotten into. 
Maybe I should, maybe I can, but

529
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,760
so far I've just been. 
I set my account to absolute 

530
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,360
private, like nobody sees my 
runs, nobody can find me. 

531
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640
I'm a I'm a secret Strava user 
but. 

532
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Even still, it's. 
Kind of cool #1 The animations 

533
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,000
in the app are super slick This 
is not necessarily the most 

534
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,120
important thing, but like it's 
super cool. 

535
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Like when you finish a workout 
on the on the phone, it does 

536
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,800
like this full screen animation 
of like I've never seen before. 

537
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,200
It's really slick, even on the 
watch. 

538
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,480
If you start on the watch, it 
has a really nice countdown 

539
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440
that's even nicer, I think than 
apples. 

540
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,720
So just feels good to use. 
It's really nice feeling app and

541
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,960
when you finish a workout as 
well, minor all outdoor runs. 

542
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,680
So I'm moving around the world. 
You get this nice little map and

543
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,240
it shows you here's what you did
and you can do a fly by as well.

544
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,200
Afterwards, there's like a 
little animated video you can 

545
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,120
watch of like watching you run 
around and it fills up the space

546
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,360
and then it zooms out and shows 
you the whole map and it's I 

547
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,600
don't know, it's kind of cool. 
So I lead with these experience 

548
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,840
things because the features are 
very similar. 

549
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880
You start a timer, it tells you 
how fast you're going. 

550
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,080
It tells you when you stopped 
because you say that, you tell 

551
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040
it that and it tells you how 
fast you went. 

552
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,240
That's really what it does. 
It's I'm there's probably more, 

553
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,320
but I really like that. 
It gives you kind of a feed of 

554
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,200
what you worked on. 
It has more controls than apples

555
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,080
as well. 
One of the things that has 

556
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,440
killed me is this freaking 
workout buddy. 

557
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280
I don't know if you have any 
workout buddy experience. 

558
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,360
I do and I want to murder 
workout buddy. 

559
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,520
I hate workout buddy. 
Yes, I. 

560
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,560
I liked workout buddy and then I
I just it's too much. 

561
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,440
It is too much. 
It tells you too much. 

562
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,880
It is. 
It's like, it's basically like 

563
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,200
instead of saying like a 
milestone, one mile time, 12:43 

564
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800
or whatever, it'll be like, good
for you. 

565
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,000
You've done an incredible first 
mile at 12 minutes and 43 

566
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000
seconds. 
That's better than your previous

567
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,440
one. 
Let's keep it going with comfort

568
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,880
zone. 
And it's like, it's too much. 

569
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,000
It's too much. 
Yeah. 

570
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,240
It's like trying to. 
Be a personal trainer and DJ and

571
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,040
your buddy. 
And it's like, I don't want any 

572
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960
of this. 
Yeah, Well, yeah. 

573
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,840
And that's. 
The thing don't want to get on 

574
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,680
too much of A tangent, but that 
is the thing that drives me 

575
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000
crazy about it is it only tells 
you good news. 

576
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440
It's a, it's a workout buddy, 
not a workout trainer. 

577
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,960
And I would love to know 'cause 
it's it'll be like when you 

578
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,000
start a workout, it'll be like 
great job getting out there for 

579
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,160
your fourth run of the week. 
That's two more than you had at 

580
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160
this point last week. 
These are like exact quotes, by 

581
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,880
the way. 
This is like the tone that it 

582
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880
has. 
But if you do less, like you're 

583
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,360
doing like worse, you're going 
slower, you're doing fewer 

584
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,840
workouts. 
It just tells you this is your 

585
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,480
first workout in 75 days. 
Yeah, let's do it. 

586
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,840
Like it doesn't tell you 
anything. 

587
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,720
It doesn't give you. 
It only gives you good feedback,

588
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040
which is. 
Yeah, you know what it really. 

589
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Needs is it needs the carrot 
weather personality so that 

590
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,000
like, hey, you haven't worked 
out in six months, you slob like

591
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,240
get out there, you sick. 
Human, you sick meat bag. 

592
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
What are you doing? 
It needs it. 

593
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,680
Needs the carrot. 
Weather. 

594
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,640
Yeah, all all this. 
Is to say there's no workout 

595
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640
buddy here, but there are more 
settings. 

596
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,320
So one of the, one of the things
I want I would like with like 

597
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400
the workout buddy in the future 
is the ability to like be more 

598
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,840
just succinct with your 
messages. 

599
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,880
I do like to hear the milestones
I just did like I, I just 

600
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120
mentioned I did 100 miles. 
I know that because I'm 

601
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,120
tracking, but it is cool when 
workout buddy is like you just 

602
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,480
did your four thousandth minute 
of running this year, Like 

603
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,760
that's a cool milestone to hear 
about. 

604
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,560
So I would like those. 
I would just like them to be 

605
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,080
more compact. 
I would also like to be able to 

606
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,880
control a little bit more what 
it tells me, like when the audio

607
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,199
feedback is there and Strava has
quite a few controls over like I

608
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,760
want to know this milestone. 
And I want you to say this like 

609
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719
it's. 
It's much more configurable in 

610
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719
that way. 
One of the other things. 

611
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,760
That's really cool though, as an
outdoor runner is. 

612
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,679
I live in the suburbs and 
there's a lot of windy roads and

613
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:51,600
stuff and you know, I have a 
couple routes that I tend to 

614
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,040
take, but sometimes I'd like to 
go a different route or just 

615
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,480
figure something out that's 
interesting or maybe I want to 

616
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,120
do a different distance than 
normal. 

617
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,400
And it's really hard. 
I actually, this is actually a 

618
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
thing I would really love to 
exist is maybe it does, but like

619
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,840
some way for me to just like 
draw on a map and like see how 

620
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,680
long this would have been if I 
ran it because I don't really 

621
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480
know. 
And then suddenly I'm like miles

622
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680
from home and I'm like, Oh no, 
I'm so tired, but I still have 

623
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,880
to get back. 
You're calling your wife. 

624
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,760
Can you come pick me up please? 
And so. 

625
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,600
One of the cool things about 
Strava is because so many people

626
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:31,840
use it, there are in your area. 
Assuming there's literally 

627
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,400
anyone else in your area who's 
using Strava, they can create 

628
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,800
routes based on different 
distances. 

629
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,680
So you can just find a route 
that someone else's made and 

630
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,280
they also have this ability to 
generate routes for you. 

631
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640
So I could just say I'm going to
start my run here. 

632
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,720
I'd like to end my run here and 
I'd like to run for three miles 

633
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,240
and it will figure out based on 
the streets around me some 

634
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,240
routes that would work. 
And that's super cool. 

635
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,200
That is super, super cool. 
Like you can figure that out 

636
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,960
with like trial and error just 
in real life. 

637
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,280
And that's fine. 
But it has gotten me doing some 

638
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,080
different paths than I've done 
in the past, which is, which is 

639
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,160
fun. 
It's novel, little novelty is 

640
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,320
OK. 
So I think it's nice. 

641
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,960
I'm using it for. 
Oh, and it also syncs to Apple 

642
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Health, which was the critical 
thing. 

643
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Nice, nice. 
OK, because I am still. 

644
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,800
Using my yearly run goals app to
track my progress towards my 

645
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,120
goal of 365 miles this year and 
so it syncs automatically. 

646
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,120
The two downsides of it. 
The three downsides of it. 

647
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,880
The three downs maybe? 
Four. 

648
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:51,240
Only three so far. 
A couple downsides #1 the app. 

649
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:52,800
You can start a workout on your 
Apple Watch. 

650
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,200
I've switched the action button 
on my Apple Watch Ultra to open 

651
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Strava and basically the exact 
same UI, although more reliable 

652
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640
because it actually starts the 
first tap every time, not like 

653
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,880
happens with Watch OS26 in the 
workouts app. 

654
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520
So you start the workout and 
it's like gives you all the 

655
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,840
feedback here. 
The problem is it does not sync,

656
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,960
or at least it's not working on 
mine. 

657
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,560
It does not start the workout on
the phone app as well. 

658
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,400
So I don't get the live activity
on the phone and the audio 

659
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,200
feedback. 
When you're doing the workout 

660
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,840
from the watch, the audio comes 
from the watch, not from like 

661
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,520
your Airpods or anything. 
So that's a little weird. 

662
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
So is. 
Are they assuming you were 

663
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,480
pairing Airpods with your watch 
and you're running without a 

664
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,920
phone? 
Maybe. 

665
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,760
They could be, but yeah, so it 
and it goes both ways. 

666
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
That's a big. 
Assumption because now it's 

667
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,840
like, OK, you're you have a 
cellular watch with a cellular 

668
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,400
connection with Airpods that are
paired to like specifically 

669
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Airpods that compare to your 
watch that is a that's a big 

670
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,760
jump, yeah, and. 
I mean, and more annoyingly is 

671
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,280
when you start it from the 
phone, it doesn't start it on 

672
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,360
the watch, so. 
You can't. 

673
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Like what? 
Look at your stats and maybe 

674
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,960
this is some configuration thing
I've done wrong, but they seem 

675
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,360
to see each other and everything
seems to be working but it's 

676
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,000
like I can't. 
What I would love is what, you 

677
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,360
know, start the workout on 
either device and I get the live

678
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,520
activity on the the app on the 
phone and the, you know, all the

679
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,840
metrics on my watch. 
So I could like see my time and 

680
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480
everything as I'm going. 
So that's definitely a downside.

681
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,480
That's definitely not something 
that doesn't work as well. 

682
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
I think actually workouts does 
this great. 

683
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,760
They added this in iOS 26. 
We're now on the phone. 

684
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,200
You get a live activity. 
You can see everything from the 

685
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,120
phone screen. 
If you want, you can stop the 

686
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,600
work out there, pause it like 
all the stuff works and you can 

687
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,360
do it from either device and it 
syncs perfectly. 

688
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,320
Not with Strava unfortunately, 
unless I'm an idiot and it's 

689
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:02,200
broken or I broke it. 
Another small downside, it does 

690
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,600
sync with Apple Health. 
Although if I do the workout 

691
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480
from the watch, I can stop it 
from the watch and it says 

692
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,120
synced to Strava which is great 
but I need to launch the Strava 

693
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,800
app on the phone for it actually
to send the data to Apple 

694
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,480
Health. 
Which isn't the end of the. 

695
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,640
World because I do look at that 
cool map anyway, but it is an 

696
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,360
extra step. 
So I was wondering why it wasn't

697
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,000
showing up in health right away 
and that was the reason. 

698
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,320
And is there a? 
3rd issue. 

699
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,280
Maybe there's not. 
I really got held up on the. 

700
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,960
It doesn't show up on both 
devices at the same time, that 

701
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,680
is. 
That is. 

702
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,800
Very frustrating. 
And I, I know like the Apple 

703
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,920
Watch isn't the easiest device 
to develop for so, and like 

704
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,440
bunch of developers have had 
issues and stuff like getting 

705
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,280
stuff to sync. 
So, but man, that's, that's 

706
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,560
frustrating, yeah. 
But that's pretty much it. 

707
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,320
I think I'm going to keep using 
it and seeing what happens. 

708
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,400
There is a subscription that I'm
free trialling for the month. 

709
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,680
I really need to figure out 
exactly what this does. 

710
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,040
It's like $80 a year, which is a
decent amount. 

711
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:12,320
So I'm probably not going to 
keep up with it. 

712
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,480
But it looks like the route 
suggestions and that sort of 

713
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,920
thing is a paid thing. 
So maybe there's. 

714
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Some aspects, yeah, yeah. 
So maybe I'll just get the good 

715
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,800
ones during the trial and then 
stop and then use them going 

716
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,640
forward. 
Yeah, that. 

717
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Is interesting that that would 
be a really good app for runners

718
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,320
of like, hey, build your route 
and like maybe like have some 

719
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,040
kind of like watch app that not 
only is like tracking your 

720
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,240
health metrics, but also gives 
you like Agps of like, OK, at 

721
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,600
this corner, turn right at this 
corner, turn left. 

722
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Oh, keep going straight here or 
whatever. 

723
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That'd be nice. 

724
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,720
That might be. 
That might be interesting. 

725
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,800
And like, have it all run on the
watch so you can go without your

726
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,200
phone. 
And then, yeah, I don't know if 

727
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,080
that's possible or not, but if 
it is and you make that app, you

728
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,920
owe me. 10% for. 
Every everything I want 10% of 

729
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,200
the business. 
Did you? 

730
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,600
See the new Fitbit that was 
announced at the time recording 

731
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,960
yesterday. 
I think it was yesterday I did. 

732
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,080
See that they announced 
something so. 

733
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,880
It is basically the fitness 
tracker we've all been asking 

734
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,720
for from Apple, where it is just
a band. 

735
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,000
There is no screen on it 
whatsoever, and it just syncs to

736
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,160
your phone. 
I kind of want this, but also 

737
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,320
I'm like, I want the Apple 
version because I don't want and

738
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,280
like, it's supposed to work with
how the health app and stuff. 

739
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,720
But I have a feeling it's going 
to be like Strava where it you 

740
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,240
have to like, open it in there. 
There's a bunch of limitations 

741
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,720
because Apple, yeah. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

742
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,280
I'm I'm interested. 
Sort of. 

743
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,000
I thought about going I thought 
about going down this route a 

744
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,120
few months ago, right. 
I tried using right in a regular

745
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,480
watch instead of an Apple Watch.
I don't know what I would do 

746
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,200
because I want to have a watch. 
I want to be able to tell the 

747
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,280
time. 
Am I going to be a 2 wrists see.

748
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,720
That's what I would do is I 
would, if, if I could get the 

749
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:21,040
fitness band that I want from 
Apple, fitness band goes on my 

750
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,960
right wrist, traditional watch 
goes on my left wrist because 

751
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,200
like I really don't want to wear
an Apple Watch, but I really 

752
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,440
want the healths. 
I really want the health metrics

753
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,640
and I really want a the time and
date on my wrist. 

754
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:38,440
Like those three things, like 
and date and time I can get with

755
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,760
a traditional watch and then the
health stuff I could get with a 

756
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,080
band. 
But like there's not, I don't 

757
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,800
know, I almost bought this thing
and but then I was just like, 

758
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,560
it's going to be a Google 
product. 

759
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,320
So there's going to be 
limitations with how it works 

760
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,600
with iOS. 
And like maybe I'll just wait 

761
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,360
for the reviews because I'm not 
a fitness influencer. 

762
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,800
Like I'm not going to be making 
videos about it would just be 

763
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,840
for my personal thing. 
So I could probably just wait 

764
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,240
until the reviews are out 
because it's not coming out till

765
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:06,240
the end of the month, OK. 
Yeah, I got it. 

766
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,040
I got to check it out. 
I'm interested in it. 

767
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,720
It's only 100. 
Bucks like it's not crazy. 

768
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000
Yeah, I. 
Mean that's in the impulse by 

769
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,280
territory for a lot of folks. 
So it'll be. 

770
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Just the same. 
Is it like a whoop? 

771
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Is that kind of the idea? 
I'll be honest. 

772
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,520
With you, I don't really know 
what a whoop is because I'm 

773
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,400
like, all right, let me, let me 
be honest, a whoop there. 

774
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,520
It ain't because it sounds like 
it's cult. 

775
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,840
It is a little culty. 
I don't I I looked into this. 

776
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,760
This was one of the things I 
looked into when I was 

777
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,400
considering going watch free or 
smart watch free. 

778
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,480
It is. 
It's culty, and it's also very. 

779
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Expensive like Apple Watch 
Expensive or? 

780
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,600
Well, it depends. 
If you want, I'm looking at it 

781
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,880
right now. 
Basically they're they're like 

782
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,120
best it is mandatory 
subscription. 

783
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,520
I think the product is 
relatively cheap and then it's 

784
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,440
about $300 a year for Oh yeah, 
that. 

785
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,400
Keeps using it. 
Yeah, yeah, that's too much. 

786
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,480
Yeah. 
No, for for that I would I I'm 

787
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640
considering I'm like, OK, what 
if I just set up the Apple Watch

788
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,320
so that I don't get any 
notifications. 

789
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,080
I, you know, have a very simple 
whole like home screen and stuff

790
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,520
like that, but our watch face. 
But I'm just like, it feels, it 

791
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,040
feels like overkill. 
I don't know. 

792
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,880
I, I'm not sure what to do I'm 
but I'm not currently happy with

793
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,360
the Apple Watch as it is. 
I feel like it's more of a 

794
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,440
distraction and a hindrance than
it is a tool to help me turn 

795
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,920
turn off the. 
Notifications and see what 

796
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,120
happens that. 
So I've done this experiment 

797
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,400
before and this was years ago so
maybe it's been fixed but I 

798
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,160
turned off notifications and all
of a sudden I wasn't getting 

799
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,680
like. 
Like when I would get a text 

800
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,200
message my phone wouldn't ring 
or buzz like vibrate like it 

801
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,360
wouldn't do anything you would 
expecting. 

802
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,720
Interesting. 
OK, like I would still. 

803
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,680
Want that like I would want the 
the notifications to like if if 

804
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,920
my wrist isn't going to buzz 
when I get a text message my 

805
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,680
phone needs to buzz and I 
turned. 

806
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,560
I've done this before and I've 
turned off notifications and 

807
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,880
like I would get messages and 
nothing would happen. 

808
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,840
Gotcha. 
OK, that makes some sense. 

809
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,520
Yeah, like if I get a phone 
call, my my phone needs to still

810
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,240
vibrate. 
It my all the sounds are off of 

811
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,480
my phone, but like my phone, 
like if I get a phone call, my 

812
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,880
phone needs to vibrate and it 
wasn't doing that. 

813
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,480
So yeah, OK, I have. 
No idea how that works these 

814
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,960
days. 
Yeah, I, I. 

815
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Don't need I, I can play around 
with it. 

816
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,960
It's just something like, it 
just seems like a lot of work to

817
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,160
turn all that stuff off. 
And if it doesn't work, I'm 

818
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,920
like, OK, now I'm going to undo 
it all. 

819
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,800
And yeah, I'm just being lazy, 
OK? 

820
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Did you see? 
Mr. Mobile Michael Fisher posted

821
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,880
a video with a few of his small 
things and he has a band that's 

822
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,480
supposed to be for habit 
tracking and it gives you an 

823
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,080
elect little electric shock or a
relatively significant electric 

824
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,320
shock if you do something you're
not supposed to do. 

825
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,440
I have seen those. 
Before and I've thought about 

826
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,360
doing that for like eating 
healthy, but I don't know, I 

827
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,480
don't know how that's like get 
set up and stuff like that, but 

828
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,720
I think you have to. 
Literally like hit a button on 

829
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,520
it and then a few seconds later 
it shocks you, so you have to 

830
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,600
like, tell it to do it to you. 
Yeah, I don't. 

831
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Think I would. 
I don't think I would 

832
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,840
purposefully do that. 
Like if I go in and grab ice 

833
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,440
cream, I'm not going to be like,
OK, shock me. 

834
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,480
I'm just going to be like, OK, 
I'm getting away with it and 

835
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,600
don't shock me. 
Yeah, no, Fair enough. 

836
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:49,800
I would. 
Yeah, no. 

837
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,360
OK. 
Don't. 

838
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,440
Don't electrocute yourself. 
Don't. 

839
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,320
Don't do it. 
Don't let tech companies 

840
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,040
electrocute you. 
Don't, don't, don't. 

841
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,520
Don't do it. 
Yeah. 

842
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,200
Anyways, we should get to our 
challenge. 

843
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,840
It was your challenge this week.
Yeah, it was it. 

844
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,600
Was a weird one because it made 
me get out of my comfort zone 

845
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:15,040
and oh wait, we didn't. 
I didn't move it over to the new

846
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,920
document, but my challenge was I
want to get word for Word, use a

847
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,760
web browser that supports mouse 
gestures, and find a really nice

848
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,440
gesture that revolutionizes the 
browser. 

849
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,440
So yeah, Oh no, this. 
Has all the makings of a Chris 

850
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,160
did not enjoy this challenge 
well. 

851
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,760
The. 
Issue. 

852
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,320
Was the week that we chose this?
I have taken a majority of this 

853
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,760
week off. 
I have not done a lot of 

854
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,360
computer E work. 
I've I've edited comfort zone. 

855
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,640
I found out about this challenge
as I was editing the show and. 

856
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,720
My issue. 
With it was OK. 

857
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:04,040
So now I got to install another 
browser which I did and set up 

858
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,560
these gestures which I did but I
wasn't at my computer enough to 

859
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,760
remember the gestures so I 
didn't really use them. 

860
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,800
I also did the thing our Co host
suggested, Neilion and I set up 

861
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,720
better touch tool so that I 
would had like if I swiped up on

862
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:25,680
the left side of the trackpad, 
it would create a new tab, new 

863
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,080
tab. 
Or if I swiped up on the right 

864
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:35,960
side of the trackpad, it would 
do command L or not command L 

865
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,640
the thing to go to the bar. 
Why can't I say yeah, command L,

866
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,840
yeah, command L, yeah, command L
yeah. 

867
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,200
Command Li don't. 
Know why I was? 

868
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,840
Oh yeah, but so I did that and I
mostly just forgot about. 

869
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,960
I'm sorry. 
I did set it up and I did use 

870
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,200
them a couple of times, but my 
thought was this seems worse 

871
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,800
than keyboard shortcuts. 
OK. 

872
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,920
OK. 
But I'm curious what you did so.

873
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,120
This is not a thing that I use. 
I've never used mouse gestures, 

874
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,480
they've never clicked with me, 
I've never understood them and 

875
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,600
so I wanted to have an excuse to
try them out. 

876
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,280
So I I have been using Vivaldi 
more this week, obviously 

877
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,120
already installed. 
I had all the browsers 

878
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,560
installed, this was not a 
problem. 

879
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,200
When do you not have all the? 
Browsers. 

880
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600
Installed and so I I decided not
to rock the boat. 

881
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,440
I basically use some of their 
built in ones which the common 

882
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,040
ones I used were basically two 
of them. 

883
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,600
New tab which is you hold down 
the right click button and then 

884
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,960
slide a go down straight down 
that opens a new tab. 

885
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,880
You can also do a new tab in the
background by holding down the 

886
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,720
right click and then going down 
and back up. 

887
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,920
And you can close a tab by 
holding right, left, right click

888
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:01,760
and going down and right. 
And I succeeded in the. 

889
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,680
Challenge by using these some. 
I failed in the. 

890
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Challenge by revolutionizing the
browser because I don't 

891
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,600
understand. 
How this is better than? 

892
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,600
Anything. 
Exactly. 

893
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,040
See, that's where I was and I 
think. 

894
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,000
A big issue for me is I was 
using the Magic Trackpad, so I 

895
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,920
didn't have the ability to like 
hold a button and and move a 

896
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,760
mouse, like physically move a 
mouse. 

897
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:28,160
So that was the that was the big
thing is I didn't even think 

898
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,760
like, Oh yeah, I should switch 
to the mouse for a week. 

899
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,120
I was like, how am I going to 
make this work with the Magic 

900
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,480
Trackpad? 
And it just, it just nothing 

901
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,800
felt, it never felt faster than 
just hitting command T, Yeah. 

902
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,280
And like like you mentioned 
command L like that's two 

903
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,280
fingers. 
That's a two hand thing for me. 

904
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,240
I don't know if you do it with 
one hand, but like it's used 

905
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:53,240
with one hand. 
I could do it with one hand, 

906
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,920
Yeah. 
OK, well I do it. 

907
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,960
With two hands, so I could see 
potentially, like if my hand is 

908
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,920
already on the mouse and I want 
to do that instead of moving my 

909
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,120
mouse, my hand over to the 
keyboard to do that. 

910
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:08,080
I could do a gesture, but I 
don't think I would. 

911
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,800
I don't know. 
It seems like it's solving a 

912
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,800
problem that I've just 
personally never had. 

913
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, like it was. 

914
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:21,720
It was an interesting thing to 
try out, but I don't know, maybe

915
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,160
maybe more of an accessibility 
thing? 

916
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Maybe or. 
Maybe although the. 

917
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,840
Precision you need, I guess. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

918
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,560
You need to be pretty precise. 
To be able to do these, so like 

919
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,000
depending on like what what your
specific needs are. 

920
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,720
But like, and I guess if you 
don't have it in your head that 

921
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,160
command L goes, focuses the 
address bar, command T opens a 

922
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,920
new tab, command W closes it 
like like these are pretty basic

923
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,720
ones, I guess. 
But like, if you don't have all 

924
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:50,000
of these or like back and 
forwards, you don't know our 

925
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,200
command, the braces right and 
left, Yeah. 

926
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,120
If you don't have those. 
In your head then maybe like 

927
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,280
it's easier for you to do like 
gesture left to go back and 

928
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,440
right to go forward and. 
But yeah. 

929
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,640
It just didn't didn't click with
me like at all. 

930
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,560
Maybe for like these newer 
generations coming up where 

931
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:15,680
their primary devices that they 
learned computers on are touch 

932
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,600
based, maybe that might be who 
this is for. 

933
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,240
Like you and I grew up in 
keyboard first world and I grew 

934
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,880
up in mouse first. 
World, actually. 

935
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Well, OK, yes. 
But we we learned keyboard 

936
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,320
shortcuts. 
We learned copy and paste, cut. 

937
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:39,280
Maybe I don't know I. 
Every once in a while. 

938
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Chris, you walk into one of my 
things that I'm thinking about 

939
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,720
and don't know how to write into
a blog post and get to talk 

940
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:49,240
about briefly here. 
And this is this idea that we're

941
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,880
we, we always talk about like 
kids these days. 

942
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,760
They don't know how file systems
work. 

943
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,440
They don't know, they don't know
how non touch screens work. 

944
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,000
They're not going to know these 
keyboard shortcuts. 

945
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,800
And I'm always wondering, is it 
because they're a new generation

946
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,400
that is doing things totally 
differently, or is it just 

947
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,600
because they're children and 
they don't know everything? 

948
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,760
Yeah. 
And I think and, and a part of 

949
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,440
it is like I grew up a nerd. 
I wanted to, I wanted to know 

950
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,400
everything a computer could do. 
I wanted to do everything 

951
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,000
possible computer. 
So I learned everything. 

952
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,800
Do they just not care? 
Do they even need to care? 

953
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Like, let's be honest, do they 
need to know command X cuts or 

954
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,680
do I mean, that's probably a bad
example that that's do they need

955
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,480
to know command L opens up the 
address bar in a browser? 

956
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,480
Do they even need to know that? 
I I. 

957
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,400
I don't know. 
I don't, I don't, I that's, 

958
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,360
that's a whole philosophical 
thing for another time, I guess.

959
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,760
But yeah, I, I, I struggled to 
remember to do these. 

960
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,640
I sat down this morning and I 
was like, oh, what was the 

961
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,640
challenge again? 
And I was like, oh, yeah, this 

962
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,720
OK. 
I kind of did it. 

963
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:05,560
But it's, it's definitely 
something that will be disabled 

964
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,040
as soon as we're done recording 
because I don't like, I, I could

965
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,960
see myself accidentally like 
swiping up on the left side of 

966
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
the trackpad and like opening a 
new tab be like, wait, what just

967
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,240
happened? 
Yeah, yes, I. 

968
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,960
Yes, this has happened to me 
with keyboard text expansion 

969
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,600
things. 
I set up like a weird text 

970
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,440
expansion thing that I forgot 
about and wasn't in the normal 

971
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,440
text expansion app that I used. 
So like every time, every once 

972
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,000
in a while I type something out 
and something weird would 

973
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,160
happen. 
I'd be like what just happened 

974
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,200
but. 
I lived like this for. 

975
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,760
Weeks until I figured it out. 
My favorite was before I learned

976
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:47,280
markdown I set up a text thing 
that said to to ampersand signs 

977
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,240
next to each other would auto 
fill my phone number and then I 

978
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,160
started getting into markdown 
and I'm like wait why does every

979
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,520
time I go to do an H2 it's 
inserting my phone number? 

980
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,000
It was, yeah, it was something 
like that for me too. 

981
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,080
I was like, why? 
Why is it? 

982
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,960
Doing this, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I have something else set up for

983
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,760
it now, but yeah, it was 
interesting. 

984
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,040
But I don't think I will stick 
with this. 

985
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,320
Yeah. 
I mean, listen, that's the point

986
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,480
of comfort zone. 
Yeah, we pushed. 

987
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,320
We tried. 
It we tried it the the the, the 

988
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,560
point isn't to always find 
something new to constantly use,

989
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,840
but it's to try something. 
And sometimes it works, 

990
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,040
sometimes it doesn't. 
Yeah, and. 

991
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,640
Let us know, give us some 
feedback. 

992
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,160
Are you using mouse gestures? 
Are we crazy? 

993
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,720
Is there something we should be 
doing? 

994
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,320
Did we miss the point? 
It's possible, yeah. 

995
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,680
We we could have missed the 
point. 

996
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,760
And maybe, maybe that's the 
thing. 

997
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,720
But yeah, so it's my challenge 
for next week and I you don't 

998
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,520
really actually have to really 
do anything during the week for 

999
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,520
my challenge, the ideal 
challenge. 

1000
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,560
It's it's kind of. 
It's not really an ideal, ideal 

1001
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:02,280
challenge or an it's a concept. 
It's to help Chris switch to 

1002
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,880
Dia. 
I I, I finally done it, Matt, 

1003
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,720
I'm finally like, OK, I get it. 
I see. 

1004
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,280
I I want, I want, I want my tabs
on the side. 

1005
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,960
I don't think Safari is going to
give it to me. 

1006
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,720
And I think Dia is a very 
interesting browser. 

1007
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,240
You guys were talking about it 
last week on the show and I was 

1008
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,320
like, I haven't checked it out 
in a minute. 

1009
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,120
Let's let's check it out. 
And you can disable a lot of the

1010
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,560
crap on here. 
And it's basically arc now. 

1011
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,360
Like it's kind of basically arc,
right? 

1012
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,720
Yeah, it's ARC. 
With some more stuff and some 

1013
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,080
slightly different things, but 
it's it is. 

1014
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,400
It feels very much as if they'd 
kept working on ARC and just 

1015
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,840
made it better. 
Yep. 

1016
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440
That's, that's what it feels 
like, which I, OK, I don't know 

1017
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,640
why whatever. 
Anyways, but I have a few things

1018
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,680
that I would like you to think 
about and Neelyon, Neelyon, if 

1019
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,080
you're listening or just looking
at the doc, whatever. 

1020
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,440
But here's some stuff that I 
need from you guys to help me 

1021
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,960
switch to Dia. 
And basically I'm, I'm putting 

1022
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,320
all my homework off on you is 
what I'm doing this week. 

1023
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,240
I need a password manager that 
works with Dia and probably 

1024
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:16,480
Safari, and the ability to move 
from the passwords apps to 

1025
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,440
whatever this is. 
I need to know what? 

1026
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,240
Do I do about the iPhone and 
iPad? 

1027
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,880
I need to know what extensions 
do I need, What settings I need 

1028
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,360
to change? 
How long is dia? 

1029
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,080
Sunset and how long until Dia? 
Sunset and I am back on safari. 

1030
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,000
OK. 
The icon is literally the sun 

1031
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,960
setting so I I noticed that. 
It doesn't use a pro score call,

1032
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,000
but it is better than the Safari
icon. 

1033
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,080
But most importantly, Matt, this
one is specifically for you 

1034
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,480
because I know Dia is a Chromium
browser. 

1035
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,800
Will this kill my battery life? 
It will not kill. 

1036
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,320
Your battery life it will be 
fine. 

1037
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,000
I am running three. 
I'm running 3 chromium browsers 

1038
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,400
simultaneously right now. 
My battery life is excellent. 

1039
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,880
Everybody needs to just stop 
living like it's 2012. 

1040
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,680
I I mostly just. 
Wanted to trigger that there. 

1041
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,240
I I know I've read, I've read 
his report. 

1042
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,320
Chrome. 
Chrome is not not not the 

1043
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,160
battery killer it used to be if.
Anyone can give me literally any

1044
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,560
data showing that it does, I 
will be open to it. 

1045
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,720
But nobody has data. 
They only have vibes from 10 

1046
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,440
years ago and as we. 
Pointed out we hate vibes. 

1047
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,160
It's not a real thing. 
Some of us love vibes. 

1048
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,760
This is a. 
Vibe from tech not. 

1049
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,520
Not if you're recycling vibes 
from 10 years ago to do battery 

1050
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,720
tests, yes. 
You actually have to do battery 

1051
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,720
test people. 
But anyways. 

1052
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,440
That's my challenge for the 
week. 

1053
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,360
That's a fun challenge. 
Yeah. 

1054
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,840
Now I do have an end of the show
question for you, but I have to 

1055
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,120
go get it. 
Can you hold on for like 2 

1056
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,520
minutes and we'll we'll cut this
from the show? 

1057
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,400
Sure, sure, sure. 
OK, all right, put. 

1058
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,280
In some hold music here editor 
Chris. 

1059
00:59:10,310 --> 00:59:11,590
Browser. 
Podcast the browser. 

1060
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:18,030
Podcast. 
Oh God, he's still not back. 

1061
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,120
So my. 
End of the show question. 

1062
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,680
For you is how adorable is this 
puppy? 

1063
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,480
Oh boy. 
On a scale of 1 to 10. 

1064
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,200
We're looking at an 11. 
Riley, you got an 11. 

1065
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,240
If you're not watching the video
version, you really should be. 

1066
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,160
We'll put chapters in the hair 
so you can skip right to the 

1067
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:44,680
video, but this is Riley. 
This is Riley Rascal Van Lolly. 

1068
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,360
And she would. 
Her middle name was actually 

1069
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,720
inspired by Jason Snell calling 
you a Rascal. 

1070
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,360
Yeah, so. 
Yeah, this is this is her. 

1071
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,640
She, this is my puppy. 
Aw, how old is she? 

1072
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,880
She is. 9 weeks old, 9 weeks old
and she's a big girl. 

1073
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,880
She's already 17 lbs. 
Yeah, she's gotten bigger. 

1074
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Since last picture I saw she 
since. 

1075
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,320
We've picked her up. 
She's probably 20 to 30% bigger 

1076
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,960
than what when we picked her up.
So yeah. 

1077
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,960
She's she's a big girl. 
Do you know how big she's going 

1078
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,120
to get? 
Her probably around 70 to 80 

1079
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,960
lbs. 
Yeah. 

1080
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,120
So we're trying to not carry her
around because it's already 

1081
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,680
hurting both of our backs, OK. 
Yeah. 

1082
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,520
But anyways, this is Riley 
linked to her Instagram account 

1083
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,800
in the in the show notes. 
Go follow her Daniel management 

1084
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,160
manages most of it. 
I I've done very little with it 

1085
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,000
because I don't really want to 
manage more stuff all. 

1086
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,280
She's interested. 
What is she again? 

1087
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,520
What's what breed she's? 
She's golden retriever. 

1088
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,240
It's a golden retriever. 
OK, it's the. 

1089
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,040
European line. 
So she is basically white like 

1090
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,320
she she and like has like these 
brown racing stripes, OK. 

1091
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,160
Oh boy. 
Well, this is going to be a 

1092
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,120
enormous part of your life now 
and your camera rolls going to 

1093
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,800
fill up. 
You're going to be like, I need 

1094
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,760
the absolute best camera. 
You're going to become that like

1095
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,200
a guy. 
I'm going to be a like. 

1096
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,320
A guy, I've already started 
doing the research. 

1097
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,440
I've already started it. 
I literally have tabs open right

1098
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,120
now with like his web page. 
But yeah, All right. 

1099
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,960
Well, thank you all so much for 
listening. 

1100
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,800
Have a great day. 
Bye.

