1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,840 Good evening and welcome to another ramble where we will be 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,200 talking about agility, my favorite topic in the entire 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,880 world now. But seriously, we have a Reddit 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,720 post by Independent Living 95. Shout out 95. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,280 Any 30 year olds in the comments let me know down below. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,600 But this is a really cool Reddit post. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,600 It's called Agility has no reason to be so slow. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,240 And if I were to guess, I would say the community puts agility 9 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:28,240 in probably the top three most hated skills. 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,400 And there are so many reasons for that, which obviously I have 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,520 gone to and we will get to in this. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,200 There's just, I think there's over 1000 comments on yeah, 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,720 there's 1.2 K comments on this thread, which is absolutely 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,080 wild. 666 up votes that is cursed. 15 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:48,280 But there is a lot to sort of dissect in this. 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,200 So I'm very excited to jump into this. 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,200 I want you guys to let me know down in the comments how you 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,960 guys feel currently about agility. 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Do you think it should just be speed up? 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Obviously, we're going to get to all these points, but before I 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,760 get there, be sure to if you guys are listening to these 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,880 rambles at work or on the road, check out the show on Spotify 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,800 linked in the comments and pinned in or pinned in the 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,880 comments, LinkedIn the description. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,200 I'll never get that right, but it really does help me out if 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,800 you guys want to support the show it I'm just trying to grow 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,080 it over there. It's not monetized. 28 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,800 I'm trying to get it monetized, but we have to hit some certain 29 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,720 numbers. So thank you very much guys. 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,400 Now let's cover this. Why does agility have such low 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,080 XP rates? I don't see any reason why the 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,640 XP rates can't be buffed by at least 50% or even doubled across 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,960 the board. This sounds eerily familiar 34 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:37,200 because of my stance on chambers of Zurich. 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,400 Now I'm saying similar because I am the one advocating for like 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,160 straight up doubling purple rates across the board at 37 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,400 chambers and people think that's extremely radical. 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Which I, you know, I'm. I'm willing to hear out the 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,120 arguments for why, but it is funny that I hear this and I'm 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,520 against this. Whereas, you know, he probably 41 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,000 sees me as just like, I don't know, the same way I see people 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,280 that are like, no, chambers is perfect, never touch it. 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,720 But I think there are a few distinctive differences in that. 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,880 But I want to continue reading before we just start jumping 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,560 into all that. I'm not going to be talking 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,479 about chambers on this, but I wanted to kind of bring up the 47 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:14,320 example of how I feel kind of about the similarities between 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,040 me saying doubling purple rates and people saying doubling XP 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,680 rates for no reason. Because I would say the same. 50 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,560 There is a reason. Obviously they have a reason. 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,800 I have a reason for mine. Anyway, a skill that requires 52 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,120 that much focus should have faster XP rates. 53 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:32,600 Focus. OK, so we will cover that. 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,360 What focus I guess. I mean yeah, it's not like 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,920 shooting stars, people are. People now think like shooting 56 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:39,360 stars. The FK and everything else is 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,480 just like super quick intensive reward. 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,240 The rewards don't feel valuable enough for the time it takes to 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,080 get them. 100 hours to save 30 seconds for a shortcut? 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,360 Nah. Granted, some of the rewards are 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,880 quite useful. So I know I sound like I'm 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,480 criticizing this post already. I'm not. 63 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,160 I really want to hear this out because I actually I did glance 64 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,720 at this post and I actually already agree with many things 65 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,080 he points out. Or she could be a girl. 66 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Granted, some of the rewards are quite useful. 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Graceful is a staple even though the energy changes have made it 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,400 less of a must have than before. The shortcut to D KS is amazing 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,160 and save loads of time. That was just such an amazing 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,960 update. Thank God. 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,320 And they didn't say you had to get like from an elite. 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Done. Oh my God guys, I'm sorry but 73 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,400 who? What, who? 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,880 Raise your hand in the comments if you were the masochist or the 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:35,080 masochists that decided to vote no on removing the Desert Elite 76 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,600 requirement from passing that 86 level shortcut at KQ. 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Like what the fuck guys. Anyway, great for Iron Man 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,120 especially. However, it's level 85. 79 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Level 85 to save time getting to a boss encounter that's close to 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,400 an entry level boss. Really, That is true. 81 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,720 However I will say it's only really just 80 because it is 82 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,560 just a one time shortcut. You just bring a summer pie. 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,760 Level 80 is not asking that much. 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,720 It really is not asking that much to get such a nice benefit. 85 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,720 I actually think they appropriately leveled that 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 shortcut personally. They could have easily done some 87 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,120 bullshit like 95. So let's come on. 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,520 And if you don't have summer pies for whatever reason, make 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,920 one First off. But if you didn't, you could 90 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,560 just easily make an agility potion and you just need 82. 91 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,600 I mean, yeah anyway. But I'm hearing his argument. 92 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Ring of Endurance is the only big money item you can get 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,040 exclusively from agility. Even then it's not worth as much 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,680 anymore. The requirement 92 agility, 95 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,360 Yeah, Stamina pots, which again aren't quite as useful as they 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,920 once were, is an item that requires input from agility. 97 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,680 No other way of getting amylase, which is an actual all the time 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,960 reward for the skill. I think the thing that feels 99 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,480 worst about agility, except for the painful XP rates that 100 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 doesn't translate well to the effort put in, is that there is 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,200 almost no visible gain from training it. 102 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,800 Almost every other skill has this on almost every skilling 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,480 action. Combat gains loot. 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,400 It could be absolute crap loot but you still gain something. 105 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:08,000 RC gains runes, herb or gains potions. 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Thieving gains mostly GP. Also a host of useful items. 107 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Crafting gains items to sell. Alk use fletching same as 108 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,720 crafting. Slayer gains loot with an actual 109 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,680 worthwhile reward. Curve levels are underwhelming 110 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,240 though. Hunter gains bones, meat, or 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,800 rumors made this go better. Mining, woodcutting, fishing. 112 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,040 Farming gains resources to selling news so the thing gains 113 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,360 items to sell. Alk use and cooking gains foods 114 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 to use and so. OK so you may have noticed 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,760 prayer construction and fire making are missing here. 116 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,720 Prayer I don't think needs a chance it's it's a unique skill 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,440 with unique rewards. The only thing I could think of 118 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,040 is slapping a prayer level requirement on more gear to feel 119 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,480 A to get a feeling of progression, but it's honestly 120 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,880 fine. The construction and the fire 121 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,320 making have their own problems though. 122 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,160 High level construction rewards are at top tier but you get 123 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,400 almost nothing in return while training to that point. 124 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,720 Fire making is fire making Had incense sticks from Rs 30. 125 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,480 God I've actually heard some really good things about RS3 126 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,280 lately. The RS3 leagues apparently was 127 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:09,360 like a fucking banger. I just kept hearing tedious on X 128 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,120 just fucking praising it from the rooftops. 129 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,920 Or just leave it. Leave it as the meme it is. 130 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Anyways. Agility desperately needs a 131 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,640 rework somehow. Either through buffed XP rates, 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,600 better reward space, or a different way to train. 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,440 That is key right there. Because he's offering multiple 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,600 solutions, or he's offering a solution with multiple different 135 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,240 routes to take. Preferably all of the above. 136 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,920 The best reward right now for most of it right now for most of 137 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,920 the time is the chance per lap of getting one single mark of 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,520 grace which is at best equal to 110th of an actual reward item, 139 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,880 the amulets pack. This is a nothing reward for 140 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,040 many accounts as you need 77 herbler to use them. 141 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,400 So instead per lap you get a chance to get a one and 260th 142 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,120 part of a graceful set. You will see the actual reward 143 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 for many hours. OSRS good and should be better 144 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,120 than that. Jodie gives me absolutely no 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,240 satisfaction at at any point to train to all J mods. 146 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,560 There is no rework being worked on at the moment. 147 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Please let us know. I would write up a whole skill 148 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,840 rework concept document all by myself if I need to just save us 149 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,640 from agility in its current state ran over. 150 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,480 OK, so let's let's you know, let's just cover a few of these 151 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,880 topics or a few of these comments and then I'll just kind 152 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,840 of start sharing some stuff. So Alice Alice DC says give us a 153 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,880 postman style mini game. I immediately thought of that 154 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,200 little YouTube short. I'll probably have it posted in 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,280 the description if you guys want to see. 156 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,120 It's just fucking delivering shit delivering packages for 157 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 post EP to clients around the world. 158 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,720 The issue is as a novice postman, you aren't allowed to 159 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 teleport with packages. So you need to run or boat 160 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,120 around to different areas. They can add more shortcuts. 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,680 You can be rewarded by clients paying in GP or other items they 162 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,040 have laying around in big XP drops. 163 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,120 May maybe in reward outfit could be a postman outfit that when 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,680 complete gives free unlimited teleports to all your available 165 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,360 teleports on your current spellbook. 166 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,800 No XP. So you can teleport around like 167 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,600 Pete. Interesting. 168 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Yeah, so that was one of my ideas. 169 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,880 I was just as it's a fun it's a fun meme idea, but it genuinely 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:14,440 has some like merit to it. I feel like, which is in my it 171 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,800 was nothing to do with post de Pete. 172 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,480 It was about like running the different kingdoms. 173 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,640 So like for example, I think the example I said was like, you go 174 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,920 up to the king in Artie and he's like, hey, I need you to send a 175 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,680 message to King rolled in Verrock. 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,920 And then you have to manually run there basically. 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,600 So your whole journey you cannot teleport. 178 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,880 You just have to run there. And then as soon as you arrive, 179 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,840 you get some generous XP, agility XP plus some cool 180 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,200 reward. And it basically would encourage 181 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,920 you to just actually run around the game, not be in this weird 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,240 just rooftop confined area with like 4 different fucking levels 183 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,480 to it where you're like bouncing in and up at like on 4 different 184 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,800 planes of existence. It's just very bizarre. 185 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,680 That's a whole nother thing we need to talk about just that. 186 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:03,200 But yeah. And and the cool thing would be 187 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,320 you could maybe have some taxi services. 188 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,520 So there would be people like sitting outside of Artie Castle, 189 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,760 like, hey, you pay ME300K and I'll run you to Barack myself. 190 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,320 And you're going to have like these fucking pro taxi drivers 191 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,920 that will get you around like legitimate obstacles and get you 192 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,200 safely across like White Wolf Mountain, for example, or 193 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,320 something like that. You know what I mean? 194 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,280 So if there's going to be like these kind of like businesses 195 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 that spring up and it's going to become a very AFK form, if you 196 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,600 want to like pay the guys or you can just like fucking hitch a 197 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,760 ride with somebody that's already following. 198 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,880 But who knows, maybe the driver is going to like somehow 199 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,560 maneuver the you like around a fence or I don't know, but who 200 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:44,840 knows, who knows? But I like the idea of a taxi 201 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,720 service kind of like a more AFK sort of star mining thing. 202 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,120 But yeah, it's just and and it's it's not force, it's just a 203 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,320 different way to train. I think that's really cool. 204 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,560 So very nice. What is this guy? 205 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,080 Or yeah. Jesus fucking Christ. 206 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Listen, OK, so for those that don't know, this is actually 207 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,520 already rooftops. It's just so pathetic looking 208 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,800 at. But seriously, can we actually 209 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,640 think about if they were to drop rooftops today, how much of an 210 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,320 abomination, how much we'd be screeching at the top of our 211 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,760 lungs about what a dog shit update that was? 212 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,960 I mean, truly, can you actually imagine rooftops being put into 213 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,440 the game even in the last five years? 214 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,680 It would have just been the most embarrassing thing to have ever 215 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:33,120 seen. But because it's like sort of 216 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,960 more ancient, it came out in like late 2013. 217 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,600 We kind of all just accept it. Like, yeah, this is the way you 218 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,400 train agility and you can't really shit on it too much 219 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,840 'cause it's like, yeah, this is like the meta, but dear fucking 220 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,760 God, it's horrible. It's just so horrible. 221 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,440 There's no rhythm to it. It's just click at any point 222 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,160 ever. And the guy made a great just he 223 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,120 illustrates it so well. You get a one and 260th of a 224 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,760 fucking like outfit. It's just so embarrassing. 225 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 It is very, very bad. There's nothing like special. 226 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,080 There's nothing like random or cool. 227 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,320 The animations are just fucking pathetic. 228 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:15,440 I I honestly agility would be improved by maybe double 229 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:18,680 instantaneously if they were to just go in and clean up the 230 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:22,520 animations. Why the fuck do you run up next 231 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:26,320 to a building, immediately stop and then jump? 232 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Like why isn't this like Assassin's Creed? 233 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Like make it so your dude actually is gaining acceleration 234 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,680 and then jumps to the next building without you going down. 235 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:39,640 And like just randomly bumping on a fucking stall down there 236 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,000 and then jumping on another stall and then glitching back up 237 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,680 to the top and then standing there for like 2 ticks while 238 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,480 your guy registers the next movement. 239 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,240 It's just, it's just so bad. It really is bad. 240 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,280 Truly. I don't think people understand. 241 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,040 I've said this before so many times, but truly think about 242 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,920 this. If you were to click an obstacle 243 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,560 and your guy genuinely runs and just does the most majestic jump 244 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:07,280 over to the roof and you're like genuinely capturing that imagery 245 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,080 of just jumping and leaping and just successfully landing and it 246 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,440 looks smooth and your guy continues to accelerate. 247 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,200 He doesn't just jump, stop and then wait there for two ticks 248 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,800 for you for your guy to run over to a plank, stop, walk across a 249 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,080 plank. Like why can't we just be 250 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,160 leaping and jumping and fucking running the whole time? 251 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,040 Seriously. Like I know maybe that would 252 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,680 look RS3 or whatever the fuck people say or like that's too 253 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,480 new school. But seriously, that that alone 254 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,880 would make massive improvements to the skill if they were to 255 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,320 just clean up the animations, make it so when if you have like 256 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,800 roofs enabled, if you're like thieving down at RT, I'm just 257 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,240 bringing up RT for example. There's so there's obviously a 258 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,840 bunch of different roof popcours, a bunch of different 259 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,360 courses in general. But if you could see the people 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,560 on top of the roofs as well jumping without that being like 261 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,280 a huge engine work or something, that would also be really cool 262 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,640 to just see people jumping these roofs and it looks clean and 263 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,520 smooth and your guy keeps running. 264 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,280 I don't know that obviously they would need to rebalance some of 265 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,360 the XP rates or not the XP rates, but the XP per obstacle, 266 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,240 because your guy would actually just be moving faster, you know 267 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,120 what I mean? But that would be so cool. 268 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,080 I mean, what the fuck is up with like the Harry Potter 269 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,440 broomstick? Your dude's like riding a 270 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,560 broomstick randomly. It's supposed to be a pole 271 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:30,120 vault, but your dude just, Oh my God. 272 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 It's just the glitchiest, most clunky thing ever. 273 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,880 I know it's charming to some degree, but it's just so 274 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,680 pathetic. Oh my God, I'm getting an 275 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,680 aneurysm from talking about this, so we're going to move on. 276 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,600 But yeah, this is just really bad. 277 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,040 By the way, does anyone in the comments play with just the 278 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,040 black screen? Looks so bad. 279 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,960 The changes made it a lot better to run to run energy, but the 280 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,080 actual content and what it gives you as a skill is kind of ask. 281 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,080 And then someone with 99 is basically free or XP for irons 282 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,000 really and it's barely that much. 283 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,680 Honestly. Maybe I was too harsh on an 284 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,480 analogy or what? Yeah. 285 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,840 Yeah. So is he the one saying? 286 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Is this comment inferring that like he's disagreeing with the 287 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,040 XP rate? Like just buff. 288 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Let's see, slippery slope is right. 289 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Hey guys, let's just double the XP for the scale 'cause I don't 290 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,320 like it is unironically uploaded. 291 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,760 It just suggests we don't have a mini game for every scale. 292 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,200 I'd like it if we got mini games that were fully isolated from 293 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,640 the scale and actually optional things like Pyramid Plunder, 294 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Volcanic mine, Broomhaven, Agility, or Hell Hallowed 295 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Sepulchre or or hell hallowed sepulchre. 296 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Given the thread, yeah yeah, it's insane to me how bad it's 297 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,280 gotten every update Reddit Reddit begs for for is just a 298 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,040 general buff skill Cape perks for free, removing elite diary 299 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,200 requirements, no double NXP skills. 300 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,720 Give all these things Reddit unironically once if you haven't 301 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,000 so so let me let me just touch on this thing where he said one 302 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,920 of the three he would like to have see he would like to see 303 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,080 changed which is better reward space, different way to train or 304 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,320 buffed XP rates. He prefers all of the above, but 305 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,120 he is giving the kind of options, the reward space, 100%. 306 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,240 We can have more rewards. We can come out with cool 307 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,960 courses. I have talked so much about a 308 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,640 rhythmic click box agility course. 309 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,040 This is something so simple in theory to design. 310 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,360 It truly is I I honestly think a dev could bang out this. 311 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,760 I mean the the only thing that would take time is just the 312 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,840 animations. I think the animations go a long 313 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,840 way. So it would be important to have 314 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,800 an artist truly make really sick, really sick and slick 315 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,520 animations for all this. But imagine the the only thing I 316 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,800 can really say right now that's in the game that a lot of people 317 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,720 have experienced is like the Yama stepping stones. 318 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,160 You know, you're jumping everyone tick. 319 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,760 There is rhythm to it. Now imagine you're kind of in 320 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:06,920 this like ninja Warrior sort of esque agility arena course where 321 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,240 you have like a few different stones you're jumping across and 322 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,520 there's like balls swinging. And so you have to click it 323 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,880 every two ticks. If you click any earlier, if 324 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,760 you're just spamming it, you're going to get hit by a ball. 325 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,880 If you go too late, you're going to get hit by a ball. 326 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,480 So there's like a timing to it, but it's just click boxes. 327 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,800 You're clicking on the next thing. 328 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,160 So it's not sepulchre where you're just running and 329 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,600 coasting. And then you just have to know 330 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 the timing and memorize the sort of patterns. 331 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,560 But this is truly just click the next click box in the rhythm. 332 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,720 And then the next agility obstacle would be like scale a 333 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,080 wall and there's like a peg that you grab on. 334 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,080 So you click the peg, click the next peg. 335 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,800 And then there's maybe one way up there. 336 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,760 So you have to click like one tick, 2 tick, one tick, one 337 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,960 tick, 2 tick, you know, just be as some sort of visual pattern 338 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,840 you see, but you have to execute it properly or you'll slip down 339 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,080 and fall. So your first few runs through 340 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,200 it, you're going to be like, what the fuck? 341 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,560 You're going to be lost and it's not going to really click with 342 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,920 you. But then you just do a few runs 343 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,359 and it just all of a sudden clicks and you're going to feel 344 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,400 like a fucking giga Chad executing this course. 345 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,680 Just Florida State because you know the exact timings. 346 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,720 It's all going to start clicking with you. 347 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,440 The muscle memory is going to come into place and there's just 348 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,319 a variety of different obstacles that you have to clear and 349 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:23,200 they're just have different rhythmic timings. 350 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,960 Some would just be 1 ticking, some would be two ticking, some 351 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,960 would be alternating, some would be maybe it, it does have a sort 352 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,080 of alternating thing where you when you are watching something. 353 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,520 So it's not always the exact same. 354 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,680 There is some elements of randomness to it, but for the 355 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 most part it's going to feel really smooth and good and 356 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,040 you're going to be flying through while you're watching 357 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,760 these noobs slip and fall. And I just think having a course 358 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,960 like that at an earlier stage, so this isn't like a level 90 359 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,600 requirement. It's something you can start 360 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,880 doing at like level 20 and then there will be different courses 361 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,920 as you progress through it. But training agility becomes a 362 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,760 genuine pleasure. Like it's something you want to 363 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,920 do. It's going to be fun. 364 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,240 It's going to be zippy. Your dudes going to animate 365 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,880 animation stall. So like, let's just say you have 366 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,480 to click a buzzer on something and clicking the buzzer has this 367 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,160 animation that looks like you're just smashing the buzzer, but 368 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,840 your dude's already running, you know, because you've already 369 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,440 clicked on the next course, but he's still pounding the button 370 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,880 and then he zips, you know, he fucking beelines to the next 371 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,800 one. There's something so satisfying 372 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,680 about making animations feel good and snappy and rubber bandy 373 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,160 and just nice rubber bandy usually is like a negative, but 374 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,040 I feel like there's there's some real cool things you can do in 375 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,120 old school that feels zippy and snappy. 376 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:45,320 And I just truly that alone. If you were to just make a 377 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,120 course like that, it would save agility. 378 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:49,600 It truly would. You wouldn't need to start 379 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,800 balancing XP rates. You're just going to have a fun 380 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,200 course that from the get go is just enjoyable to train and you 381 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,560 feel like you're improving. Have you guys ever played 382 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Geometry Dash? I'm sure many of you have had 383 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,400 androids or iPhones and you got Geometry Dash several years ago 384 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,160 and it was like super popular. That game is pure rhythm and 385 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,040 it's just tapping. It's just literally you're just 386 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,560 tapping the screen and your dude's bouncing to the rhythm 387 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,160 and you just have to memorize the rhythm. 388 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,680 You're you're you suck it first. It instantly resets you as soon 389 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,200 as you die and you just start bouncing and you're just in this 390 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,320 beautiful rhythm. It's so fun. 391 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,080 It that shit is addicting. You know what's not addicting? 392 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Running to a running just with no rhythm to the next agility 393 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,200 obstacle where your guy runs there, stops glitches, three 394 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,680 different planes of existence lands and you're trying to click 395 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,040 the next thing but it's not even moving you. 396 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,400 And then you finally move and your guy starts walking again 397 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,000 up. Take 3 ticks to pick up a 398 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,800 fucking mark of grace. Run 2 tiles. 399 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,160 Stop there, look around, jump the next rooftop slip fall to no 400 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,720 fault of your own. It's just this is just all 401 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,600 bullshit. It's all bullshit and we have 402 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,400 been suffering. We truly have been suffering due 403 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,240 to negligence on Jag XS part. I'm sorry it's just the case. 404 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,440 Agility can be fixed so simply. It really can. 405 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 And you can do it by more enjoyable rhythmic mini games. 406 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,440 It's rhythm. We need rhythm, we need 407 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,760 snappiness, we need beautiful animations. 408 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,760 We need these new courses that are going to just liven up 409 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,600 agility across the board. This shit would be so fire and 410 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,000 you can pimp it out with rewards. 411 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,920 Make it so agility becomes. Something you want to train and 412 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,080 you're gonna get rewarded for it. 413 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,960 So you could just start training agility in the 99 like fucking 414 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,200 off the bat, you know, like the how cool would that be? 415 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,160 I also wanted to point out something about shortcuts. 416 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,920 I know this is something that was brought up, but like 417 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:48,760 shortcuts mod Husky in somebody linked me a clip of this on X, 418 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,800 but it was basically mod Husky saying exactly what I've been 419 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,360 harping on about, which is they came out with a bunch of new 420 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:59,160 shortcuts across the game, just random shortcuts, you know, and 421 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,760 it was really, really cool. They came out with it like a 422 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,800 couple years ago and I was like testing them all out a couple 423 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,600 years ago and every single one of them had you click it. 424 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,440 Your guy has to stall there for a tick, then moves across 425 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,400 shimmies across pretty quickly and then stalls for a tick and 426 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,880 mod Husky in that clip. I I I don't know if I can find 427 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,480 it right now, but he basically says, yes, I think we should 428 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760 clean up all those shortcuts and how cool would it be if we 429 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,960 cleaned them all up and made them super snappy, where as soon 430 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,800 as you get past your beelining it to your next destination. 431 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,640 You know what I mean? So I love it that the devs mod 432 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Husky in particular, do see the beauty and like the satisfaction 433 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:43,240 of snappiness of speed of just not feeling sticky. 434 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,120 God, feeling sticky in this game is just awful. 435 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,760 It really is. So imagine a mini game, agility 436 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,440 courses that have that as the philosophy, non stickiness, 437 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,160 rhythm skill. Your there's actual skill 438 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,520 expression, but it's not super difficult. 439 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760 It we don't need like a sepulcher floor 6. 440 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000 That's just headache inducing and trying to memorize the 441 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,840 patterns and they're all randomized and you're just 442 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840 getting a fucking headache. You know, this is this is going 443 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,640 to be simpler than sepulcher. This is going to be something 444 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240 everybody can jump into real quickly. 445 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,840 And yes, you'll fail a little bit, but it'll be due to your 446 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,480 own fault that you'll Start learning how to improve at and 447 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,480 you'll very quickly improve at at it. 448 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,600 So I don't know if you tried it, but will the agility masses have 449 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,640 been a game changer for me. Much better rates and the profit 450 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,160 is super nice. Plus Sigmund is incredible, one 451 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,280 of the best in the game. I gotta, I gotta hand it to them 452 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,960 that the wilderness agility course truly is pretty good, but 453 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,400 it's still just a rooftop course. 454 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,200 So even though it has that element of risk which keeps you 455 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,880 kind of locked in honestly, like doing agility now in the 456 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,040 wilderness, you guys haven't tried it. 457 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,320 It it really is quite enjoyable, but the course itself is jank as 458 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,480 fuck. Damn, it's so bad, it's 459 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,920 horrible, it's so pathetic. It's and that that needs to be 460 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,040 cleaned up. It really does. 461 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,520 That is just the worst thing ever. 462 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,080 Plus I don't think you ever stop failing that lava stepping stone 463 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,080 thing. I don't even think you stopped 464 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,720 failing any of the obstacles. I think there's like 3 different 465 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,080 obstacles you can follow, like the rope swing right before the 466 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,200 stepping stones, stepping stones, and then the little like 467 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,200 log balance. I think even at 99 you still 468 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,800 fail it. Like what? 469 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,280 What the hell is that? So fix all that and you got like 470 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,960 a you got like a really flawless thing out there. 471 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,400 Again, a whole separate issue about like wilderness just 472 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,600 shitting out supplies for early irons, but that that's besides 473 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,480 the point. It's really good. 474 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,160 It's it actually is is enjoyable. 475 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,000 If you have a clan like protecting you 2 we're not 476 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,760 protecting you, but you're all just all in it at once. 477 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,200 You know, there's just nobody protecting. 478 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,920 You're just doing it as like a clan event. 479 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 You know, those Yama stepping stone things are in each face 480 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,880 making a jolty course. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 481 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,840 I came in to try to point that out. 482 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,720 Agility training at some course with one taking optionals that 483 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,120 be into it. Everybody's agreeing werewolf 484 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,600 agility already has it So with perfect we don't need to add 485 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,880 anything else now. He didn't say that. 486 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:08,760 So if you don't take perfect and fast if you do yeah so I I I 487 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,160 think the Penguin course also has the one ticking, but it's so 488 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,200 jank looking 'cause they didn't like take that much time into 489 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,840 the animation. So if you're on like a bad ping 490 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,040 world, just like you, you almost, it just is so awkward. 491 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,320 But yeah, stuff like that. But the whole course is that and 492 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,840 it has different alternating patterns. 493 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Like I was saying earlier, maybe I'm just an unpopular opinion, 494 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,760 but one thing that does draw me to this game is that it's not a 495 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,960 game that you need to rush to Max to start enjoying it. 496 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 You can played this game for decades without Max and that's 497 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,320 perfectly fine. I get that agility and room 498 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,160 crafting are so skills, but I sort of appreciate that you 499 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,000 would never have to get 99 unless you choose to do so and 500 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,120 set it as an aspirational goal. 70 is the maximum needed for a 501 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,320 grandmaster end game quest and the further you push the skill 502 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,880 and the more shortcuts you can act as to but are not mandatory 503 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,520 to play the game either. I think it can get a bit 504 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,080 repetitive with agility, but I think they really did a good job 505 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,920 and fix with the sepulcher that can Max that at about 100 KXP an 506 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,760 hour, which is up significantly from what it was in the past. 507 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,200 It is much more interactive type of training. 508 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,160 You can always fall back and click it in a circle. 509 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,480 If you want something less dynamic, less dynamic, just know 510 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,640 there's there's nothing dynamic about it. 511 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Yeah. So I I agree with that to some 512 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,160 extent. Let's see. 513 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,160 It used to be worse man. It's true. 514 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,720 This game is not a marathon, not a race. 515 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,440 This game will be ruined by people wanting short term 516 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,880 rewards like what happened to R3. 517 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280 So yeah, let me make it also very clear, I know many of you 518 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,840 already know my stance on this, but I I would be absolutely 519 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,560 against just cranking up skill XP rates. 520 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Skilling does not need just arbitrary XP rate increases. 521 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,240 That is just the complete opposite thing you should be 522 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,760 doing. You should be making fun and 523 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,120 engaging content. That's what you need to do. 524 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,120 If there was something truly fun, truly engaging, you really 525 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,640 wouldn't care about the XP per hour. 526 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,360 I mean, you would there. Obviously you can't have it be 1 527 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,520 XP per hour, you know, But there's a fine line. 528 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,880 There's much more of a, a grace or what am I trying to say, like 529 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,120 a, a sort of like set where it's more broadened, I guess the XP 530 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:20,880 rates per hour. If you have a really fun, 531 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,840 enjoyable piece of content like I am never. 532 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,040 When I'm doing Hunter rumors, for example, I'm never looking 533 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,080 at my XP rate. When I'm doing Hallowed 534 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,600 Sepulchre, I'm never looking at my XP rates. 535 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,200 I just don't. When I'm doing Slayer, I'm not 536 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,040 looking at my XP rates. I know a lot of people do 'cause 537 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040 they're just super, super XP minded. 538 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,520 But there are skills where I do look at the XP rates and there 539 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,920 are some that are truly engaging and fun where I just don't care. 540 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,640 Slayer's the number one. Like, Slayer's so good because 541 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,000 you just, that's like my relaxing skill. 542 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,440 It's just like, hang out and your XP just goes up and you 543 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,880 just don't even feel it. It's really cool. 544 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,640 So come out with content that just makes you feel like you're 545 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,600 not even, you know, gaining XP. It's just, I mean, you are, but 546 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,160 you're not thinking about it. Shut up and do some lats. 547 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:11,120 Jesus. Yeah, we do need more shortcuts. 548 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,200 I I have always been a huge fan of shortcuts. 549 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:20,360 I think there's always room to add more even something like the 550 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,520 agility pyramid. They they should have a shortcut 551 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,200 to get up there or just remove that hard close up. 552 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Jesus guy doesn't know about running times and will the 553 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,800 agility downplaying one of the most useful and to be honest 554 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,680 easy to level skills meanwhile requiring 0 knowledge. 555 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,600 Yeah. So the wilderness course really 556 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,760 is Godin. It's really nice. 557 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520 The irony of being OK with massive rewards, not actually 558 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,960 putting in much work on most AFK skills, and being upset when you 559 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,360 actually have to put in work. And let me also say generally 560 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,920 this is like a very general concept of an MMO. 561 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,360 You should have time consuming skills, they should be fun. 562 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,840 I don't think there's ever a reason to purposely make a 563 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,840 miserable skill that that is what we kind of used to. 564 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Honestly, that was the like the philosophy of players a decade 565 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,640 ago with old school was they honestly thought it was like if 566 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 this skill is just pitiful to train just the just an 567 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,880 abomination that's respectable like that. 568 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Honestly, people used to think that way. 569 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,840 So I think we have already been through. 570 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,400 We're kind of in this enlightenment period. 571 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,640 We've been in it for several years now where vast majority of 572 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,040 players do see it a useful thing to make everything fun because 573 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,320 it's a video game and things should be fun. 574 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,120 They should not just be awful. But I do really like the 575 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,560 viewpoints of players that want to maintain the amount of time 576 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,640 it takes to like Max and stuff that I think no matter what, 577 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,320 that'll always be speed up just because. 578 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,280 And, and I'm one of those players that, that I, I do think 579 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,800 that skilling updates should provide a little bit better ways 580 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,640 of training over time. So it's just like a little bit 581 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,440 of power. It's like power creep with PBM, 582 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 but it's like XP rate creep. I don't think that's a bad 583 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,160 thing. I think Sepulchre was a great, 584 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320 you know, thing where like that just cranked up the XP per hour 585 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,880 of a skill. And there's a lot of other 586 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,840 examples, obviously I could go into, but I'm not against having 587 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,520 metas change across skilling, but just do it very, very 588 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,000 carefully and slowly over time. We don't, we don't want to just 589 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,440 pump up XP rays for no reason. So RS3 player thinks he gets to 590 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680 make our game easier. I like it being slow. 591 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 You don't need 99 in agility. It's a skill I can always fall 592 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,480 back on. Do some AFK mobile training. 593 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,640 If you don't want to grind out 99 agility then don't leave it 594 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,480 as a badge of honor for those of us that do. 595 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Yeah and who remembers back in the early days, Like if you had 596 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,480 a room crafting Cape, you were a pimp. 597 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120 You were a fucking pimp. Now, if you see something with a 598 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,800 room crafting Cape, you your first assumption is they're just 599 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,920 a bot. I'm just thinking of like the 600 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,760 bots at Edgeville that are just always abyss room crafting and 601 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,920 they have their RC capes and they have like 50 mil or RCI 602 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,000 just like God. It's a whole other thing. 603 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040 We need to talk about botting. We need to talk more about 604 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,680 botting. I talk about it so much. 605 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,680 But yeah, it's really cool to do something that takes a long time 606 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920 and you've put in the hours. It is cool, it's respectable, 607 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320 it's a cool thing. This game is kind of about the 608 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000 flex. Not entirely, but if I don't 609 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,800 think most people would play as much as they do if this is a 610 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280 single player game, I think a lot of the reason people put in 611 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080 so many hours is because they want to flex to their friends 612 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440 and that is totally cool. That's human. 613 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,960 That's very human to do. I do it the same. 614 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,320 I I love flexing on this game. So anyway, there's probably so 615 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,200 much more on this, but I want to get your guys's feedback down in 616 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,920 the comments. Let me know how you guys feel 617 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000 about this. Do you think they should just 618 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640 arbitrarily increase XP rates? Do you think it should just be a 619 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,680 reward thing? Increase the rewards, a 620 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600 combination of them? Or like I said, like just give 621 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,640 us better courses, more shortcuts. 622 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,160 I think the more shortcuts are the reward to some degree. 623 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480 But yeah, I I love these discussions. 624 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,720 Shout out Independent Living 95 for the good just discussion 625 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,240 because yeah, it just gets the community talking about 626 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,520 something that truly needs to be changed. 627 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Agility doesn't need to be changed, but in the right way. 628 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720 So thank you all for listening. Check out the show on Spotify 629 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,560 pinned in the comments linked to the description. 630 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440 I love you all. Have a wonderful rest of your 631 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,640 night. Talk to you later. 632 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Peace.