1 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:22,000 Hey guys, it's Tim. And welcome to episode 131 of 2 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,600 the Dreaming of Disney podcast. And I'm with my beautiful wife, 3 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Audrey Anne. Hello, Audrey. 4 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,760 You have to excuse me, I was outside today and I hate this 5 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,360 time of year because I get really bad allergies. 6 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,720 I know I. Know and even when I take 7 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,760 allergy medicine they like just takes the edge off it, but I 8 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,960 still get congested and gross. I'm so that's all right. 9 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,240 And we have. These trees, the trees in front 10 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,200 of in our front yard are really pretty, but they have these huge 11 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,080 blossoms and just leave all the pollen dust everywhere and I 12 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,920 hate the smell of it. I know some people like the 13 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,720 smell. I hate the. 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,960 Smell These ones don't smell great, but they are really 15 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,320 pretty they. Smell like urine. 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,680 That's what it smells like to me. 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,320 OK, so there you go A. Little too far. 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,400 Little tea by. Little We don't even know that 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:23,000 about you you know OK, real quick yes, before we get into 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,640 anything else we are coming up so we're episode 131. 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:36,480 We are also coming up on our 4th anniversary of the podcast 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,440 that's. Crazy. 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,440 I can't. Believe it, but can you see? 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,040 Do you know what the date was or do would you have to like look 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,960 back at something? What the date I can I can look 26 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:48,240 it up real quick. I mean, if if you can. 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,440 Oh man. Wait, where's my title, Gifter 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,600 all? Right, well if for people who 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,080 are listening on the podcast, sorry we are live on TikTok as 30 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 well. So sometimes we respond to the 31 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,880 people who are commenting live on TikTok. 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,480 So you can follow us on TikTok and watch this live as we record 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:18,480 it every Sunday night around 8 ish 8:30 PM Pacific Time. 34 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Welcome to join us. Yeah, on the TikTok. 35 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:27,880 It's a party, It's a party. Oh, I don't even have podcasts 36 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,120 loaded on my iPad. I'll have to find it later all. 37 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Right. It's fine. 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,720 But yeah, we'll have to look. And then, you know, I wonder. 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,360 No, there's no wait. No, it is March. 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,200 But I just don't know. Yeah, nevermind. 41 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,720 I was thinking we don't have time though. 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,760 I was like, oh, that'd be cool if we got to like 150, but it 43 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,600 was in March. So we can't record 20 podcasts. 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,200 Let's just do like, let's just do like 19 or 18 like 2 minute 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,640 podcast episodes where we just share a quick Disney thought and 46 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:09,520 then you get to 150 on our the anniversary of our podcast. 47 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,000 So would it just be on the app? Is that what you were going to 48 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,080 look at? Yeah, I was looking at the 49 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,320 podcast app and. OK, and then I'd have to scroll. 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,680 All the way down and. Oh, man, OK, well, why don't 51 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,840 you, why don't you can say what we're going to talk about and 52 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,720 I'll. Do that. 53 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,440 So the last couple of weeks we've been recapping our 54 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Disneyland trip that we did back in February, beginning in 55 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,520 February. And so you know, it was what, 3 56 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,360 days? Four days? 57 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,520 Three days? Three days? 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,000 It's in Disney life. Already looked March 5th. 59 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,920 There you go. March 5th, 2020. 60 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,480 That would be this coming week. Yes. 61 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,760 I can't believe 2022 seems so long ago. 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,360 But also not like like we can't be 4 years from that because. 63 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Still in the middle of the C word. 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,160 It was. We were. 65 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,880 Get the C word out of. There, Timothy Michaels. 66 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,800 It's Arrested Development. We're talking about a. 67 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Boat. I know. 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Thank you. Oh, no way, Gina. 69 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,079 So, Sean O'Connor, welcome in. Big Juice, welcome in. 70 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:21,600 When is that? Let's see what's day. 71 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,720 What is that coming up? I believe we started. 72 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,280 That's this Friday. That is this Friday. 73 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,080 Oh, I don't have to scroll all the way back. 74 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Well, now I don't because you did. 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,040 Thank you. But. 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:40,720 Anyways, we'd had a three days, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 77 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Monday, 4/3 and. 1/2, three and a. 78 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,080 Half days it. Was a good length. 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,680 It was a good length. On that Saturday, our first full 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:58,400 day was February 7th. We had that day was the D-23. 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Your your hand, your. I keep hearing you go mouthing 82 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,880 things. That's right. 83 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:13,040 You're very sensitive to that. Just turning to a ASMR podcast, 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:23,160 there was AD 23 panel on the 25th anniversary of Disney's 85 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,920 California Adventure because unbeknownst to us, we didn't 86 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,840 know that the 8th, which was the next day, was the 25th 87 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,600 anniversary of California Adventure because Disney didn't 88 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,920 advertise like the week before. They're like, hey, it's a 25th 89 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,320 anniversary. Here's what we're doing. 90 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,120 And then once it's once I saw that and I was like, oh, that's 91 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,960 right, like February 2001. Like I didn't know the exact 92 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,080 date, but I was like, I remember it being, I just remembered 93 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,880 something. What? 94 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,280 I have a shirt. I don't anymore. 95 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:01,160 What happened to that shirt? I got a shirt from the the the 96 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,040 Disney Magic music days that I went to in 2001 in high school. 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,480 We got a shirt and it had something about California. 98 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,960 I think it had the Grizzly Peak on it or something in the 99 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,000 castle. It's a 2001 magic. 100 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,320 What happened to that? What happened to that shirt? 101 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 That'd be really cool to find. I mean, I'm not going to find 102 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,520 it. That was a long time ago. 103 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:28,280 But anyways. So I went to the panel, it was, 104 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,840 we didn't take the whole family because I think the kids would 105 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:37,800 find it extremely boring. And so I mean, it was over 2 106 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,120 hours of former and current Imagineers talking about how 107 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,000 California Adventure was created. 108 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,320 And so I don't think the four year old would appreciate that. 109 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,560 No, not at all. So it was just me that that went 110 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,960 to that. And so I took notes and we're 111 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,920 going to talk about it. Yeah, let's let's let us know. 112 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,720 Let's let us know. Let us know so. 113 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,120 What happened? So there within this panel, 114 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,520 there were two panels. The first panel was the original 115 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:16,280 Imagineers that, you know, conceived and built California 116 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,880 Adventure as it once was back in 2001. 117 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:27,360 And then the second panel was the group of Imagineers that 118 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,440 reimagined California Adventure. In what year was that? 119 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Do you remember? All I know is that when we went 120 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:53,920 in 20, 2013, they had redone it, so in between 2011 and 2013 it 121 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,480 was in there. Something like 2012? 122 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,160 That would be in the middle of. 2011 and 2013. 123 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,360 So I mean, it was in phases though, because it was like they 124 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,240 reimagined the entrance and then they eventually added Pixar 125 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Pier. 'Cause there was a period of 126 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,280 time where we didn't go. We didn't go for like a year and 127 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,920 a half, two years. There was a little break there. 128 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,360 Yeah. So and it was within that time 129 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,680 that they did that. So the first panel consists of 130 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,600 Barry Braverman, who was the executive who helped shape the 131 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,720 original vision of Disney's California Adventure, and Tim 132 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Delaney, who was the designer behind DCA's original entrance. 133 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,840 Tim Delaney's an actor as well, isn't he? 134 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,120 Tim Delaney? I don't know. 135 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,920 It's an actor. So he was the he was the concept 136 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,640 artist who came up with a lot of these ideas and concepts. 137 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,480 Rick Rothschild, who was the Imagineer who brought Sauron 138 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:02,000 over California to life. And then Greg Emmer. 139 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Emmer, who was a show producer who helped build Grizzly Peak 140 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,800 and the Wilderness Area, and then Kathy Magnum, who was the 141 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:18,120 executive producer who led DC as Made in California, experiences 142 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,360 which did not last very long. Unfortunately. 143 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:33,640 So the the what? So how how DCA came about? 144 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,400 I'm. Talking about a little place 145 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,960 called Aspen. Aspen What's that? 146 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,520 From Michael Eisner, who was the CEO of Disney at the time. 147 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,400 He wanted to turn Disneyland into a full on resort much like 148 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,720 Disney World. That'd be nice. 149 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,680 Let's do it. Because Disneyland was just one 150 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:59,360 park and only one hotel at the time. 151 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah. 152 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:08,840 And, and whereas Disney World was 4 parks, many resorts, lots 153 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,760 of things to do, Downtown Disney didn't exist at this time in 154 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Disneyland in California. Just Disneyland it. 155 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Was just Disneyland, that's all it was. 156 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:25,480 And so they wanted to come up with a idea to create a full on 157 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,600 resort type of experience in California, much like Disney 158 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,800 World in Orlando. So they went to a retreat in 159 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Aspen, Co, in the summer of 1995. 160 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Someplace warm. And so the, the, the, the, the 161 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,440 goal of this trip was to come away with one idea to where they 162 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,360 could then create another theme park. 163 00:10:52,400 --> 00:11:01,360 And so they came away with actually was that 12344 ideas. 164 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,040 They said four to five ideas but they only mentioned 41. 165 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,320 Idea was aquatic theme park, which you know. 166 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,560 Like SeaWorld? They said like kind of like a, a 167 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:17,280 beach type of type of resort, you know, they mentioned kind of 168 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,280 similar to like Long Beach type idea. 169 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,280 That would be hard to make a whole theme park off that I feel 170 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,600 like. Yeah, another idea was Route 66 171 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,400 to create a park around the idea of of a lot of the stops along 172 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Route 66 in America. Kind of hard to tie that into 173 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Disney I feel. Another one was a park that was 174 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 based around the different seasons and holidays throughout 175 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,840 the year. And then finally was one that 176 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:54,480 was based on California. And so Eisner chose one about 177 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,800 California because it had a lot of different elements. 178 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:02,000 You have Hollywood, they could create a, a Hollywood type area 179 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,400 like on the smaller scale of Hollywood Studios, which was MGM 180 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Studios at the time, Disney World. 181 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,080 And it just had a lot of different, different things that 182 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,880 where you could celebrate the idea of the state of California. 183 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,160 Well, the that's one thing about California is it's very isn't it 184 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,680 the only state that has all the different type of. 185 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Yes, the only place in the world that has all the different 186 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,280 microclimates. So, you know, we have, Yeah, 187 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,640 Mountains, mountains, desert beach. 188 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,480 Valley. Valley isn't for like, it's just 189 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,040 it's the state is vast, vast. And diverse. 190 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Very diverse, yes. So you could do a lot with that 191 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,000 so. The idea was you they could 192 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,120 create a smaller Hollywood area, they could create a nostalgic 193 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,520 beach, French amusement park, which became Paradise Pier, and 194 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 then a things made in California. 195 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:56,200 So California history, agriculture products, things 196 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,920 like that. Living with the land would go 197 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,080 well in California. It would have I feel like. 198 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Because we've got a lot of. Agriculture missed opportunity. 199 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Lot of agriculture here. We do have a little bit of 200 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,720 agriculture here, little bit 80% of all foods in the United 201 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,320 States are produced here in California. 202 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,600 If you didn't know that, there you go. 203 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Now you know a little bit of tidbit of. 204 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,800 California. Information. 205 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,200 Knowledge. I'll just say history. 206 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:25,920 It's not really. History. 207 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:26,880 It's not really. Just it's a. 208 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Little fact. Little California fact. 209 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:35,160 Tidbit there. So they they had the kind of a, 210 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,480 you know, a hard time trying to conceptualize how they were 211 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,800 going to fit this park into the parking lot of Disneyland. 212 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Right, because it used to be the parking. 213 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:48,480 Lot. It was the parking lot. 214 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,480 I remember getting out of my dad's car in the parking lot and 215 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,760 walking to the gate. Because if you look at if you go 216 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,560 on Google, Google map, Google Maps and you look at Disneyland 217 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:03,360 or you just look at a map of Disneyland, it's very 218 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:11,040 thoughtfully laid out. You have you have the the we're 219 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,880 thumbings down on a comment here. 220 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Jay just likes to come in and try to make me mad though. 221 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,520 OK, he's just, he's just trying to start drama here. 222 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Yep, he's got a lot of hot takes. 223 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,280 So, so they had a because if you look at Disneyland, it has like 224 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 kind of the cog wheel type design. 225 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,600 You have the hub in the middle and you have all the lands, you 226 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,400 know, sprawling out from the hub. 227 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,640 And so it has a very logical, you know, layout. 228 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,480 And so when you look at the parking lot, it was a very kind 229 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,280 of like convoluted, kind of weird shape. 230 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,360 And so they had to figure out how are we going to, you know, 231 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,960 make this flow naturally in this weird shape that they have of 232 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,920 this parking lot. And they, they had also a very 233 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,640 strict budget. So Disneyland has a berm, which 234 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,960 is, you know, a mound of dirt that goes around all the way 235 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,120 around Disneyland that cuts out the outside world so you can't 236 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,720 see anything. Cut out the outside world, they. 237 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,440 Couldn't do that for for California Adventure. 238 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,400 They didn't have the money to create this berm to, you know, 239 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,720 cut out the outside world. So they had to rely on buildings 240 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:26,360 and other pieces of the park to kind of block different things. 241 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,960 So they had to think about sight lines, and they also had to 242 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,040 build it with the idea that they're going to expand it 243 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,840 because they knew, like, just like Walt said about Disneyland, 244 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,280 it'll never be finished as long as there's imagination in the 245 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,680 world. So they had that same idea for 246 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,720 California Adventure. They wanted to build it in a way 247 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,800 that's where they could expand. Look like you were going to say 248 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,680 something. No, just like they can't. 249 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,800 I know. And that's another thing I mean. 250 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,440 They don't. I would. 251 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,880 I mean, they are, I guess they're bringing Coco, which 252 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,880 they're not taking anything away for that. 253 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,640 They're just bringing it. But and they are expanding a bit 254 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,600 for for Avatar, they are taking something away, but then I think 255 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,480 expanding as well seemingly. They're just they're taking away 256 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 from backstage areas. It's, I mean, they don't have, 257 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,800 they don't have, they don't. Have a lot of space. 258 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,840 They don't have a lot to work with. 259 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,280 They have to be. Around them unlike. 260 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,600 Yeah, I mean there's houses like 2 blocks down like, you know. 261 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:32,880 And, and they also, you know, they couldn't build like 262 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,280 original rides. They had to because of the, the, 263 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,440 the cost recent, the budget restraints they had, they had to 264 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,720 pick rides that were already built so they couldn't invent 265 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,160 new things. So they had to take a original 266 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,000 like off, they said off the shelf rides and place them in 267 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,440 there. Soren. 268 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,040 What? Was like Sauron. 269 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,840 It was the only original ride that they that they built. 270 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,400 Everything else was based off of something else. 271 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,920 OK, 'cause I was like, what? I don't feel like there was ever 272 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,680 a ride like Sauron. I guess it was Cali river Rapids 273 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,680 probably before. I believe it was before. 274 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,920 Grizzly River Grizzly River Run. Which they had to. 275 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,800 I can't remember if it was from this panel or if I saw it on 276 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Instagram. They had to figure out a way. 277 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,720 How could they make Grizzly River run different? 278 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,000 And you talked about this. Oh, different. 279 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,880 No, you talked about the water. Yeah, though that's something 280 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,040 different. But like they had to figure out 281 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,120 a way to make Grizzly River Run different from Cali River 282 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,120 Rapids. And what it was is the spinning. 283 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,560 So you know, if you go on Grizzly River Run, you spin. 284 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,400 So fantastic. Because of the way that the the 285 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,160 when you when you do the drop. Oh my gosh, you you. 286 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Start spinning, whereas that's. Something you don't rat, you 287 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,800 don't spin in Cali River. Rapids. 288 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,160 I guess not. Do you spin in Cali river 289 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Rapids? Friends in the TikTok with the 290 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,840 world friends, Our world friends like Splash Mountain makeover. 291 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,840 What's young with you? So the idea. 292 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,800 'Cause if you don't, you need to go on Grizzly River Run because 293 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,160 it's fantastic and go on it at night. 294 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,640 Oh, you do. You do, you do. 295 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:18,760 So the the idea of California Venture was based all around the 296 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,280 California dream. So people, a lot of people from 297 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,400 all over the world in the United States come to California to 298 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,600 pursue their dreams. So whether it's, you know, you 299 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,960 know, Hollywood or you know, Silicon Valley with technology, 300 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,560 surfing, I just want to surf all. 301 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,040 Day I do get asked that when people like when I'm in other 302 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,760 States and people like found out I'm from California. 303 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:45,760 Do you surf? I got that when I when I was a 304 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,000 kid and we would move around and go to we, we lived in 305 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,400 California, my family. And then we moved to Texas for a 306 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,120 couple of years and that's all I got asked like, oh, do you go to 307 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:57,320 the beach everyday? Do you surf? 308 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,040 Yeah. No, I lived like 5 hours from 309 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,040 the beach. What? 310 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,440 I thought all of California was on the beach. 311 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,360 I was like, no. Yeah, When I lived in New York, 312 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,400 that's always the first thing I go, Oh my gosh, you live at the 313 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,280 ocean. Do you know to surf? 314 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,080 And I'd be like, I lived in the mountains. 315 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,880 Yeah, California's a very big state. 316 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,200 It is. A very big state. 317 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,880 So, so that was kind of the idea behind California Adventure. 318 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,440 So the, so they came to like, how did they want to, how do 319 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:29,880 they want you to experience the entrance of, of California 320 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,400 Venture? Because they had to be iconic. 321 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Just like with Disneyland, it's iconic. 322 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,200 You go, you go through the tunnel and you now are part of, 323 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,400 you know, these stories being told. 324 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,320 That's what Walt, Walt wanted. Like you're on a movie set, you 325 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,640 know, you're in these, you're living these, these stories. 326 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,120 And so you're, you're part of these stories. 327 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,920 So they wanted something iconic like that. 328 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,440 So they, they try to come up with different ideas of like 329 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,440 what would be iconic entrance into California adventure. 330 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,480 And so one of the ideas was a freeway entrance. 331 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,560 You're you're walking into a freeway entrance because 332 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,040 California has lots of freeways. Lots. 333 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,680 Of freeways. Especially down South. 334 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,000 I don't think any of them are pretty. 335 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,160 Yeah, nothing is like they said that. 336 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,000 That was quickly rejected. Yeah. 337 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Another idea that they really loved was a Redwood forest. 338 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,040 So walking into a Redwood forest. 339 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,680 So the Redwood forest is pretty iconic in the Bay Area. 340 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,160 If you ever seen Star Wars, Return of the Jedi and the 341 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,680 planet of Indoor that are that was filmed in the Redwood forest 342 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,640 in the beautiful. I've been there. 343 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,200 It's beautiful. And so it's very iconic. 344 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,640 So if you see that they they kind of had an idea they 345 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,600 couldn't do that because they just didn't have enough time 346 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,240 because they had four years to build this. 347 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,280 It opened in 99. It opened in 2001. 2001 brain 348 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,720 fart. So they had they had, what is 349 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,240 that, six years? They had six years to open them. 350 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,120 So what they ended on was what we've know as the, what the, 351 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:12,600 the, the Golden State Golden Golden Gate Bridge and with the, 352 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,840 the monorail and then the California letters in front. 353 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,480 So they, they thought of like, what would a postcard look like 354 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,160 for the state of California? And so they, they designed this 355 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,040 interest to be like a three-dimensional version of a 356 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,640 postcard. So you have the California 357 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,840 letters, you have the Golden Gate Bridge, you have a iconic 358 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:40,120 tile mural that they built on the, on the what's going on over 359 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:46,480 there, iconic tile mural that they built. 360 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,400 And then they had the monorail where she would walk under. 361 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,880 She's searching through her treasures. 362 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,680 It looks like treasure box, treasure box. 363 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,120 And so and then they had the iconic sign sun icon. 364 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,800 So interesting about this mural that they had with the I don't 365 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,760 do you remember this mural that was off to the side of the 366 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,720 entrance? It was like a surfer. 367 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,760 It was on a building. Off to the side, but at the 368 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,200 entrance. At the entrance, yeah. 369 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,400 So that. In the like once you're in the 370 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,680 park or right before you're. In the at the entrance at the 371 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,320 park, so like the turnstiles, so you would see like the Golden 372 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960 Gate Bridge and then like you have this big mural on the side. 373 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 I can't say that I do. Where's the we have the map out 374 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,640 here. Do we have a slip here? 375 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,880 So if you look at it, this it's a mountain. 376 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:44,440 So this guy right here this. I don't remember that. 377 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,280 OK, so this is what I'm talking about. 378 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,600 So this mountain right there. So that was actually, at the 379 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,800 time, the largest tile mural in the world. 380 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,200 Oh. Wow, that's cool. 381 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,520 So that's a little fact also the parking lot or not the parking 382 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,480 lot, the the parking garage which is now look. 383 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,880 At that first picture I grabbed in the O. 384 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:17,520 In the O there you go. That would be in 2002. 385 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,720 So the Mickey and Friends parking structure that they 386 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,040 built at the time, because it's before Toy Story, so it's just 387 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,400 Mickey and Friends, that was the largest parking structure in the 388 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,840 world that became Friends parking lot parking structure, 389 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,520 which is it was just crazy. They the, the architect that 390 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,160 they hired to build the, the parking structure. 391 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,720 He had other projects that he was bidding on, but he chose of 392 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,000 all the other projects he wanted to build the parking structure 393 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,400 at Disneyland. He. 394 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720 Said I want to be part of that. Because he, he, he knew it was 395 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:04,240 going to be such a, a challenge to build something that's nice 396 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,080 looking. And so it's like, how do you 397 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,720 make a parking structure look nice? 398 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:15,280 So, so yeah, see what else? So that there's a lot of oh, 399 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:22,400 it's that mural 17,000 pieces tiles, hand hand built tiles. 400 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,160 Let's see what else. So Soren over California. 401 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,320 So they spent a lot of time on this and they actually they cut 402 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,880 off the the imagineer who was talking about was like, we we're 403 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,120 running out of time. Sorry, like I got to take this. 404 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,560 The Barry Braverman who was the, the, the lead imagineer, he kind 405 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,560 of like interrupted the, the Imagineer talking about Sauron, 406 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,400 which was it was a Rick Rick Rothschild. 407 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,720 He kind of offers like we have to keep going because we're 408 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,800 running out of time, but everybody want to learn about 409 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,720 solar and Sauron because Sauron's awesome. 410 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,560 So one of the one of the, when they're thinking about the the 411 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,440 California dream, one of the one of those things is the idea of 412 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,880 flight. A lot of things when it comes to 413 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,600 flight happened here in California, except the first 414 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,520 airplane by the Bright brothers was actually North Carolina, but 415 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,440 everything else was developed here. 416 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,520 So the early idea as a Sauron was a hot air balloon. 417 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,320 And so guests would go up off the ground. 418 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760 And so instead of it being a, a communal experience, like, you 419 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,280 know, a group of people in a hot air balloon, they shifted to a 420 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,000 more individual personal flight experience. 421 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,960 So that's when they came into the, the idea of gliders. 422 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,720 And so it, it took them about six months to kind of figure 423 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,800 out, you know, what does this look like? 424 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,800 And so the idea of the ride mechanism actually came about 425 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,480 from a, how would they stop the ride in an emergency? 426 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,440 So the, the, if you know, we've all been in a sore. 427 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,680 And so you start out, you know, on the floor and then you kind 428 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,720 of, you know, there's three layers. 429 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,320 And so you kind of you, you shoot up and kind of like a in 430 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,560 1/2 circle. So that's kind of the way the 431 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,800 track looks like. And so they had to figure out, 432 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,120 OK, we have to come up with the idea of this ride had to stop in 433 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,320 an emergency. How would it, how do we stop it? 434 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,720 So it, the, it actually just it, they use gravity. 435 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,920 So the gravity would just kind of bring you back down. 436 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,320 So they, they thought of this ride structure just by thinking 437 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,360 of kind of thinking it backwards, like how would we 438 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,240 stop this if we needed to stop it in the emergency? 439 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,800 So they showed a, they, they built it a model like a, a 440 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,920 handmade model that's kind of the size of like your hands. 441 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,480 And they showed a video of that, how the the ride mechanism 442 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:15,400 worked. This was the first ride that was 443 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,040 built using computers. Really. 444 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:25,160 It it helped them to, it was not AI, but it was kind of like the 445 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:32,160 first way to where they could conceptualize how a ride would 446 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920 work before actually having to build it. 447 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280 So they were able to build it in the computer and conceptualize 448 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,640 it before actually having to build any type of models or 449 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,080 actually having to build it full scale. 450 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840 So they were able to do it in the computer first, which was 451 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,360 one of the first rights to ever do that. 452 00:27:51,200 --> 00:28:00,920 And. 48 FPS high speed. So this was interesting. 453 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,960 So when they came about, you know, shooting the scenes for 454 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,880 this, they shot it on IMAX cameras, which are very loud or 455 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,000 very they're very big and very heavy. 456 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,840 They use film. So it wasn't, they didn't shoot 457 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,120 it digitally because they didn't have digital cameras at the time 458 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,480 that had that, you know, good of quality. 459 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,320 And so they had to shoot it on IMAX film. 460 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Is that Pinocchio? Pinocchio. 461 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,760 Little creeper. Hugging. 462 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Yeah, he gets her hugging really close. 463 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,600 Hugging me a little too tight there, panoch. 464 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,640 I don't think they do that anymore. 465 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:46,080 On both arms, man. So they shot on IMAX cameras and 466 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,440 they, they each camera, a camera holds about 5000 feet of film. 467 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,600 That may sound like a lot. So if you take the you take the 468 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,440 film and you stretch it out, it'll it covers 5000 feet. 469 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,760 But shooting at 448 frames per second, that 5000 feet would 470 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,880 only last 24 1/2 seconds. OK, wait. 471 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Wait, wait, how many feet? 5000. 5000 feet of film. 472 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,840 Running at 48 frames per second. So each little square on the on 473 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,640 the piece of film, it's a frame. And so each frame would go by 48 474 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:31,800 times in one second. So it would take 24 1/2 seconds 475 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,600 to go through that 50 or 5000 feet of film. 476 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,880 So each camera can run. You going to show me something? 477 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Is that you with Mickey? It looks like our our daughter 478 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600 little mini me. Mini It's Minnie Mouse. 479 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,800 OK. It's Minnie Mouse. 480 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,560 So. It would have been like 90. 481 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:06,560 No, probably like 89. So they could only do 22 takes 482 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:12,880 at a time, so each take would be only 24 1/2 seconds long, and so 483 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,880 they could only do 2. They could only load the camera 484 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,600 up with enough film for 2 takes so that it's about 50 seconds. 485 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:31,400 So they could, when they were filming it, they only had enough 486 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:38,760 time to take one take. And so every time they had to 487 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:48,320 reload the camera, it was 90 minutes to gosh, gosh, trying to 488 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,000 remember all of this. It was very complicated to film 489 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,320 us. So what I'm saying is that they 490 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,440 had to they only had two, two chances to get the take of each 491 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,560 shot that they wanted. And when you? 492 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Think about the shots in soaring over California and you think 493 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:09,000 like they're going like, you know, like, though I'm thinking 494 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,920 of that because we just did soaring over California when we 495 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,800 were there. Like, and there's the part where 496 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,400 they're, you know, on the canoes when you're going over the yeah, 497 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,480 the river and they're like canoeing. 498 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,240 So if they only had two chances to get that, get that shot, like 499 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,720 did they just have like a bunch of people canoeing down the 500 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,520 river? And I don't know. 501 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,800 I don't. I don't know where my mind's 502 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 going with that one. But anyways, so the the 503 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600 helicopter. Anyways. 504 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,760 The helicopter that shot this and the IT was filled up with 505 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,880 fuel. The fuel would only last 90 506 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,400 minutes and so by the time they got to their location they had 507 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,720 60 minutes to shoot 2 scenes or two takes of 1 scene and they 508 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,760 were only able to get about eight shots for in one hour. 509 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,040 OK. Wow. 510 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,840 So it was very complicated a very you know a lot of logistics 511 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:15,040 to get all this shot and so the the one shot in soaring over 512 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,440 California where the where the the the fighter jet flies at you 513 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,040 yes so our. Boys love that. 514 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:28,120 The the pilots, the fighter pilot started 25 miles away from 515 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360 the helicopter. So he, they were on the radio 516 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,960 and they would give the cue he would actually be 25 miles away 517 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,880 when he, he started his, his flight and he hit his mark. 518 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,400 They did that. They did that take 8 times. 519 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Oh. Wow, 7 times he hit the mark 520 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,400 perfectly. He missed the eighth shot by a 521 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,720 little over a second and that was the one that they used. 522 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,400 They said that was the the best shot. 523 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920 So the one where he was on the mark, No good. 524 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,560 So that was soaring over California so that I, as someone 525 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,800 who who shoots video and like the logistics of all that I 526 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,840 found out really fascinating, all that stuff. 527 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760 So a Bugs Land. So a bugs, I didn't realize 528 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,760 this. I don't know why, but A Bugs 529 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,640 Land wasn't a original opening attraction for California 530 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,960 Adventure. Yeah, I didn't realize anything. 531 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:35,360 So what was there was a a kind of like a you pick farm so you 532 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,960 could go and like experience agriculture in as it is in 533 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,160 California. And that's where a tough a tough 534 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,280 to be a bug was there. So a tough to be a bug. 535 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,800 The Bugs Land Show or a Bugs Life Show was an original 536 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,320 opening attraction, but a Bugs Land wasn't. 537 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,280 OK, I didn't do we didn't do a bugs tough to be a bug until 538 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480 Disney World. I didn't know it was in 539 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,120 Disneyland. Yeah, so right after they 540 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,800 opened, they they heard from guests right away that there 541 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040 wasn't enough to do for kids. Yeah. 542 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,679 And so. And they took it away. 543 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:24,800 Yeah, so during a pre opening tour of California Adventure, 544 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,280 John Laster was there and they they were touring the, you know, 545 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,400 DCA and they watched, you know, a tough to be a bug. 546 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,760 And and so John Laster was like, wouldn't it be great if we were 547 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040 like shrunk down into his size of a bug? 548 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,239 And he started talking about the, the immersive idea of being 549 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,520 having a real life bugs land. And so they they that they're 550 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,639 like, that's that's perfect. And so there wasn't multiple 551 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,320 ideas. They're like, that's it, that's 552 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,360 the one. We're going to do it. 553 00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:02,640 And so they opened that in 2002. So one year after California 554 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,320 Adventure opened, they opened a Bugs Land. 555 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,400 So sorry AG agriculture just wasn't wasn't fun enough. 556 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:15,320 For well, yeah, like they needed more to do for little kids. 557 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,120 And then we come to the Hyperion Theatre, which is in not how to 558 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,160 say Tomorrowland, Hollywoodland and California adventure. 559 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480 And so they really fought hard. They like they wanted a like 560 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:42,840 proper Broadway style. There's sirens going on outside. 561 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,360 They wanted a proper Broadway style theater and so that they 562 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:53,480 could do stage shows and be able to have that quality of 563 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440 entertainment at the parks 'cause they didn't have that 564 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:02,720 before. And so they, they, they, they 565 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,160 fought hard for that. And so Aladdin was the first the 566 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,560 first show to be there. And so they they really fought 567 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,520 hard to have a theater like that. 568 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:20,960 And unfortunately it's still it's empty. 569 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,400 Unfortunately. They don't use it. 570 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,160 So they, the, the Imagineers were really, they're hinting 571 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,200 hard like tell executives not to get rid of it because I think 572 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,280 it's on the chopping block the way, the way that they made a 573 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,720 sound. I don't. 574 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,640 We've been talking about this in our TikTok room. 575 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,160 The last show was Rogers the Musical. 576 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,760 Rogers which was what, 20222322 or 2323? 577 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,560 I think it was summer of 23. No Yes, yes, I think it was 578 00:36:51,560 --> 00:37:00,040 summer of 23. I what was I saying? 579 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,320 OK, so we've been talking about this in our room a lot this week 580 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,440 on our lives that there's the Hyperion Theatre, there's the 581 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:18,480 whatever, the places where they had Dum Dum Dum, Captain EO and 582 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840 yes, that. Honey, I shrunk the audience. 583 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,240 Honey, I shrunk the audience. There is nothing in there. 584 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,920 There's also the place where they did the snow play area 585 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,680 during that. Which was late. 586 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:35,960 The last it was was an Avengers store. 587 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,400 That's right. Yeah. 588 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,760 And like, they have all of these places and that they could put a 589 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120 show. Hyperion Theater is a big 590 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,680 theater. Like, why don't they do a show 591 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,680 there? I don't understand. 592 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,160 And like well. They've been cutting back on 593 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,800 entertainment and performers. No, Justin, I have the window 594 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,360 open. So yeah, you're probably hearing 595 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,640 crickets and stuff. You might be going crazy. 596 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,640 And I'm attached to the Hyperion Theatre because so 3/3 of I 597 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040 think 3 of my four years of high school, there was one year where 598 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,120 we didn't go, but we had one year we actually had. 599 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,280 We did like the music days in Disneyland. 600 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,600 That was my freshman year. And in the other years, our 601 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,240 actual choir festival was not at Disneyland. 602 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,920 We went to like a high school somewhere in Anaheim. 603 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:35,640 But we had our awards ceremony in the Hyperion that night where 604 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:43,480 we won, oh, first place. And so I'm very attached to the 605 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,440 Hyperion Theatre. It was like my senior year of 606 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680 high school. It was like, you know, the end 607 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,240 of this thing, an era, if you will. 608 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,880 And so I'm attached to the Hyperion Theatre because it was 609 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,200 an awesome moment and I'm sad. And I think that they could just 610 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,480 do so much there and then. We don't have that many shows. 611 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,800 I know in Disneyland at the Disneyland Resort. 612 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,680 So it wasn't this trip. You guys, where are those 613 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,280 pictures? These are different trips. 614 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,560 These are different choir trips. Can't find my senior year 615 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,960 pictures. So that ended the the the first 616 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,400 panel and so they brought in the second panel that helped 617 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,880 reimagine California adventure as we know it today. 618 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,040 So that included Kathy Magnum, who she. 619 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,440 Was I love her. She I believe she was on the 620 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,840 first panel. No, she wasn't. 621 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,040 You know, I think you said that name before. 622 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,640 Yeah, no, she was Kevin Rafferty, who is a creative 623 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480 director behind Cars Lands, Cars Land, the Radius, Braziers, 624 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,280 Steve Davison, who is the entertainment visionary who 625 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:02,160 created World of color, and Jeanette Longboy, the creative 626 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,120 executive, creative leader behind Pixar Pier, Guardians of 627 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:11,200 the Galaxy and Avengers Campus. Emo O'Brien, a show producer who 628 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,120 up shaped Cars land and contributed park to the park's 629 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,040 Pixar air evolution, and Kathy Rogers, a creative producer who 630 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,600 helped translate Pixar storytelling. 631 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,600 It's immersive physical environments inside the park. 632 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,320 So they didn't go really too much into Buena Vista St. 633 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,720 because that the whole entrance of California Adventure was 634 00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:38,680 totally reimagined. And I, I mean, it's, it's like, 635 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,560 it's sad for what they created and like the California letters 636 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,240 and all that. But I, I've said it a billion 637 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,000 times and I'll say it a billion more 'cause I repeat myself a 638 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:55,960 lot, but I love California adventure. 639 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,080 And once they redid it, like before that, it was like half 640 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,240 day park. They had some fun things. 641 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:04,240 I loved Sauron. I like the world of color. 642 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,240 I love the world of color, but even California screaming got 643 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,960 like old for me. Like I would I could take it or 644 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,920 leave it at towards the end of it. 645 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,240 Like it was a great roller coaster, but it was just a 646 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:23,080 roller coaster. But when they reimagined it and 647 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,600 so they brought so much more Disney into it. 648 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,320 I just I absolutely love it. I love, you know, and Mickey and 649 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,440 Minnie are like in their like 1920s, you know, costumes and, 650 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,360 you know, they have like the jazz singers and they have like, 651 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,920 it's just I love it. I love it, I think and. 652 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,760 It still fits with the California dream idea. 653 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,360 It's just they, they're now, you know, it's. 654 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,720 Walt Disney it's. Walt Disney dream, you know, he 655 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,360 had the dream of of starting animation studio with his 656 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,280 brother and so he came out to California to start that and so. 657 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,600 OK, hang on. I have a question for for for 658 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,040 grim granny dads here who also has a podcast. 659 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,680 You guys, Grim Granny dads, you say they're in the middle of an 660 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160 identity crisis. Would you say that Hollywood 661 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,440 Studios is as well then? Because I kind of feel like 662 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,200 Hollywood Studios is all over the place. 663 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,240 There's Toy Story Land, there's Galaxy's Edge. 664 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,600 I mean, you have Sunset Blvd., is that what it's called that 665 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,360 going down by tower? It's just Hollywood studios in 666 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,320 in Orlando. It's based around storytelling 667 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,320 and movies and, and things like that. 668 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,320 So having these different things makes sense because you have 669 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,280 the, you know, the, you know, Toy Story land, which goes into, 670 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,280 you know, you know, these movies, Star Wars, Toy Story. 671 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,600 So then, tower terror. So then to me, the only thing 672 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,000 that wouldn't quite make sense is Pixar Pier. 673 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,960 But even that makes sense to me because it's a pier like in 674 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,840 California, they just bring it Disney, just like Hollywood, CA. 675 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000 They make it Disney because it's when Walt Disney came. 676 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:06,800 They make the San Francisco area, San Francisco from Big 677 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,640 Hero 6. It's still California because 678 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,960 it's like. It's tying in. 679 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,120 San Francisco. But what Disney movie is kind of 680 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,360 San Francisco? It's. 681 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,680 Kind of, I mean, OK, Marvel through it kind of throws it 682 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,040 off. Marvel throws it off. 683 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,040 I will take, I will say that. Where's cars? 684 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,840 Land Route 66. Leads to California. 685 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,640 Yeah, going out West and you know that that whole idea. 686 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,640 But yeah, the the marvel but. Marvel kind of throws. 687 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,840 A wrench into. The whole thing, yeah, I see 688 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,800 that. I can see that. 689 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,440 So. So. 690 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,240 Yeah. So they went into Pixar Pier. 691 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,200 So they they took the, the existing bones of the pure, you 692 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,600 know, Paradise Pier, which was known at the time, and they gave 693 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,280 it a stronger character driven identity. 694 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:09,240 So keeping the idea of the, the idea of the California, you 695 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,280 know, peer amusement park because there was only like a 696 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,840 handful in California at the time, but they're very nostalgic 697 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,440 and, you know. Like the? 698 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,840 Iconics in the 19, early 1900s, you know, era. 699 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,480 And so they, they said, let's, let's throw a Disney spin on it. 700 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,400 So they threw Pixar because it had so many good characters and, 701 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:40,200 and identities along with that. And so they, they, when it came 702 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:46,720 to California screaming, which is the, which is the roller, the 703 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:50,800 iconic roller coaster that's, you know, on the pier, they 704 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,640 didn't have an idea of, of what theme they wanted to give it. 705 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,600 And so they were playing around with different music. 706 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000 They're like, well, you know, music changes a lot when it 707 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:09,960 comes to comes to A to a ride. And so they call it using music 708 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:16,960 as a thrill multiplier. And so they, they were thinking 709 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,600 of like what, what Pixar movie has a great score and they 710 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,680 immediately thought of Michael Giacchino, who is the composer 711 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,400 of the Incredibles. And so they took California 712 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,480 screaming and what they did, they just put the Incredibles 713 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,760 theme on the ride when they were testing it out. 714 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,760 And they just like, let's just try riding it with the 715 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,280 incredible score on it. And they like they knew, they 716 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,720 knew it like, oh, this is perfect. 717 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:44,280 This is it. This is what we're gonna do. 718 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,160 And so that's when they decided to read the in California 719 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,200 screaming as the Incredi coaster. 720 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,920 It's. So fantastic. 721 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,520 It's I am. There have been times where I 722 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,360 don't get to ride it for whatever reason, but it's one of 723 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,720 my favorite rides. It went from being like it's OK 724 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,280 to, I mean, it was a great roller coaster. 725 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,840 It just was the roller coaster to being one of my favorite 726 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,840 rides. I just, I love it. 727 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,080 I love it so much. I think the way the the story 728 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,440 they brought in with like the Incredibles and Jack Jack 729 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,000 escaping so you're chasing Jack Jack is just, it's so fun. 730 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,440 I just love it. Yeah, that's great. 731 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,200 And so then we got to World of Color, which was pretty amazing. 732 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,400 You know how this came about. So Steve Davison, who is the the 733 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,440 Imagineer who is in charge of world of color. 734 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,920 They, they knew they wanted something in the lagoon area of 735 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,200 Paradise Pier or Pixar Pier. And the they originally, when 736 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,000 they first built California venture, the original Imagineers 737 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,520 knew they wanted to do something there, some type of night time 738 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,720 show, but they are limited by budget. 739 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:56,080 They like we want to do something here. 740 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,920 So that's when it came back to where they built the park with 741 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,360 ideas of expanding it in the future. 742 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,880 So they built this lagoon there, but they didn't have the budget 743 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,920 to do anything. So when I came to reimagine 744 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,440 California Adventure, they knew they wanted to do something 745 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,160 there. So, so they, they had different 746 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,960 ideas that came before World of Color. 747 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,360 They, they had other entertainment like they had the 748 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,640 Eureka parade. Do you remember the Eureka 749 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,040 parade? It was a California themed 750 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,600 parade. I guess it didn't do very well. 751 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,840 They had Iperian theater and then they had a Hollywood, I 752 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:43,600 mean, a holiday show that was fireworks over the pier. 753 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,960 So that kind of led the way into doing something there. 754 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,600 And so they they kept pitching it, you know, to their bosses 755 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,200 and to the next level and to the next level until they eventually 756 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,160 reached Bob Iger, who was ACEO at the time of Disney. 757 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,600 And they they were like confident, like this is going to 758 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,880 be too expensive. They, they, there's no way that 759 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,000 they're going to approve this because it's going to cost way 760 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160 too much money to develop all this technology for this 761 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,640 fountain show that's never been done before. 762 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,800 And they said after the presentation, Bob Iger was just 763 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,960 quiet and he looked at them and said, when, when can we do this? 764 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,240 And so they admitted, like, we never thought about when we 765 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:35,800 could do it. We never knew like how long it's 766 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,640 going to take because we didn't, we never thought it would get 767 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,960 approved. And so, and they didn't know 768 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,120 anything about fountains. So they conceptualized this idea 769 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,840 of this fountain show when they didn't know how fountains worked 770 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,160 or they can even do what they wanted to do. 771 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,200 And so they had to go learn, invent and build new technology 772 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,800 to build this nighttime show. So they had to think of new 773 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,680 lighting methods, new movement systems of moving water, moving 774 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,840 light. They had to figure out how to 775 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:17,200 move fire. And, and so one signature effect 776 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,560 they have, or is this, you've probably seen it where the, the 777 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:26,600 laser shoots out in front of, of the water and it creates like 778 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,840 these, these sheets of, of lasers this like this sheet of 779 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,280 laser light that goes above the water. 780 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:41,160 And that was done by accident. They're like, oh, that's cool, 781 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:47,520 let's keep that. And so one of the one of the 782 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,800 hardest things they had to figure out of all the technology 783 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,040 that they invented for a word of color, the most difficult thing 784 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,280 they had to invent was just figuring out how to get them the 785 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,000 fountains to move up and down. So if you've been to California 786 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,480 Adventure during the day, all the fountains are below the 787 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,840 water. You don't see them. 788 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,560 It's not until the afternoon and evening with the fountains raise 789 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,000 up out of the water. They had to invent that 790 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,760 technology. And they said that was the most 791 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,280 difficult thing. Which is crazy. 792 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,000 Like what you just put it like, you think it would just be like 793 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,680 on a lift of some. Like, it's like, why would that 794 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,320 be complicated when you think about all the other things they 795 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,960 create for rides and shows And yeah. 796 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,920 Yeah, so that that was that was pretty cool. 797 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,920 Also, another little tidbit was that the this kind of goes back 798 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,160 to the first panel, but when they built Grizzly River run the 799 00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,600 the Rapids ride. When you have a water ride like 800 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,760 that, you have to store the water somewhere. 801 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,080 You can't, the water's just not like recycled in the ride. 802 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:01,560 You have to have a large, you know, you know, Bank of water to 803 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,960 pull from. So that's one of the reasons why 804 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,080 they also built the lagoon in Paradise Pier and Pixar Pier was 805 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:16,440 that is the holding tank of water for Grizzly River Run. 806 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:24,080 Now, is that the same? Is that the case also with like 807 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,840 Splash Mountain to be honest? I don't think so because they 808 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,120 don't need as much water. These grizzly. 809 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,640 River Run uses a whole lot more. A lot of water. 810 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,800 And so, so when So they have to because when you think about 811 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,200 when they refurbish Grizzly River Run, they have to put that 812 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,960 water somewhere 'cause they they empty out the ride and they have 813 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,120 to put it. Right, like right now it's 814 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,400 empty. Yeah, So that all that water 815 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,480 when there, when there's refurbished and there's no water 816 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,560 and it all goes to Paradise Pier or the to the lagoon. 817 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:01,560 So they said when Grizzly River Run is in refurbishment, the 818 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,280 lagoon is in high tide. When the when the Grizzly River 819 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,480 Run is running, the lagoon is in low tide. 820 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,400 So I thought that was just interesting. 821 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,200 Well, Tiana's, you have the Rivers of America right there, 822 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,600 so that's probably where they pull. 823 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,640 From the water, right there it is right there. 824 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,440 So then we got to cars land, which was really interesting, 825 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:29,520 just like all the the parallels of this land and what it was 826 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,800 originally going to be and how it shifted into what we know it 827 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:41,080 to be now. So the, the, the imagineer who 828 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,000 was in charge, Kevin Rafferty. So he started out at Disneyland 829 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,160 as a dishwasher when he was a teenager. 830 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840 So he's been working at Disneyland most of his life. 831 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,120 And so him and his friends, after their shifts, they would 832 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:04,440 go, you know, back to their cars in the parking lot and just like 833 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,800 sit in their cars and imagine, like, if you could build a ride, 834 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,720 what would it be? And come, you know, decades 835 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:14,800 later, he's an Imagineer and he's building rides in that 836 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,360 parking lot where they would have, where they were first 837 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,200 imagining, you know, what they would build. 838 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:31,200 So where am I? So they started developing cars 839 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,160 land before they even knew cars as a movie was being developed 840 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:41,720 by Pixar. So they it was his boss came to 841 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:46,640 him and said, I want you to think of a new ride at 842 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,120 California adventure that could possibly be an anchor for a new 843 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,960 land. And so he he, you know, was 844 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,040 super excited about that. And so he started to just coming 845 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,000 up with ideas and he landed on, you know, you know what, what is 846 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,000 something that is well known or another, you know, idea around 847 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,720 California that's really popular. 848 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,440 And he came up with car culture. So car culture is really popular 849 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,960 in California. Well, there is old cars, muscle 850 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,800 cars, you know, all those, you know, race cars, all these 851 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,120 different things. And so he wanted to be rooted in 852 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,280 the 1955 to 1965 era of car culture. 853 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,120 And he framed it, you know, as a, you know, as a way as like, 854 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,080 you know, personal expression and freedom in that era and. 855 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,640 American Graffiti. Yeah. 856 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,720 And so he envisioned it as a 1950s Main Street you would go 857 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:47,080 down. And so he, he wanted to be in 858 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,680 the same like time frame as Disneyland. 859 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,920 So when Disneyland opened in 1955, Main St. was the turn of 860 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,280 the century Main Street, right. OK. 861 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,120 So when California Adventure opened in the early 2000s, the 862 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:07,360 the equivalent time frame would be the 19. 50s in the 50s, 863 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,760 that's cool. So he wanted to have that time, 864 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:15,480 that same like time that the same like time jump as similar 865 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,480 to Disneyland. And so, you know, building that 866 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,840 Main Street from the 1950s era, you know, idea of, you know, a 867 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:29,160 road trip, car wash idea where, where the guests would be, you 868 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,120 know, be in this ride. And so they'd be going through a 869 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,000 car wash. And the people who are like in 870 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,480 this restaurant could push buttons and interact with the 871 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,960 ride as they go through a car wash. 872 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,240 That would have been fun. I like that. 873 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:48,240 And so it wasn't until he started developing this idea of 874 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:52,960 car land. So not cars land, but car land. 875 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:59,440 No S that it was one of the times John Lasseter was at the 876 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,480 park and he's like, hey, we're developing this movie called 877 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,760 Cars and they're like, that's perfect. 878 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,080 We're developing a land called Car land. 879 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,240 And so they they kind of joined forces and they came up with the 880 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,360 idea of Radiator Springs Racers. Which is interesting because 881 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:26,840 cars came out in 2005. Sounds about right, yeah. 2004 882 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:32,800 2005 was. Right before I moved but the 883 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,360 land opened in what, 20/12/2013? Something like that and we'll 884 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,720 look at, but I take that back, they actually conceptualized 885 00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:44,240 Radiator Springs Racers before they even knew cars. 886 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:48,760 Came out 2000. It came out before 2008, 2006. 887 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,600 They they came up the idea of Radiator Springs Racers before 888 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,920 they knew about cars, so they wanted to do a car racing ride 889 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,680 much similar to Yeah 2006 test track. 890 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,520 Cars, Cars come around. Cars came out in 2006. 891 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,560 I know because I was like, I moved out on my own that year 892 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,920 and I watched it all the time. It was my comfort movie. 893 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:19,720 OK, continue. So they, they imagined Radiator 894 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,320 Springs Racers. It wasn't Radiator Springs 895 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:27,560 Racers, but rides similar to that before they knew Cars was a 896 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,680 movie. And so that's when John Laster, 897 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,120 you know, got in touch with them like, hey, we're doing this 898 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,000 right, this movie called Cars. And they're like, that's 899 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,440 amazing. We're doing this land called Car 900 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,200 Land. And so they, they threw the cars 901 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,520 theming on there. They said that Racers ended up 902 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,680 being about 97% the way that they conceived it originally 903 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,880 before. Oh that's cool, they just added. 904 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,920 They just added. The characters. 905 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,200 The characters, pretty much. Such an amazing ride. 906 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:03,280 And so so, yeah, so that's that's how, you know, Cards Land 907 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,720 came to be. And so they actually did the 908 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,200 same tour along Route 66. They, you know, they did a 909 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,480 research tour tour. So what if you ever watch behind 910 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,800 the scenes about cars, Pixar, the animators and the the 911 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,640 writers, they went on a tour of Route 66 to learn about that 912 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,640 area of the United States. And so the Imagineers did the 913 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:35,920 same tour and which I didn't notice the sheriff in Cars was 914 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:42,000 they met Pixar. Pixar met the the actor who does 915 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:48,400 the sheriff is somebody that they met along the Route 66. 916 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,840 That's amazing. Oh my gosh, I love that. 917 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,720 And so, so he wasn't originally an actor. 918 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,880 They just loved his voice, like, oh, you fit perfectly for what 919 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,840 we're doing. And so the the the actor, you 920 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,480 know, the person turned actor who plays the sheriff was the 921 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:11,200 Imagineers tour guide along Route 66 to show them all the. 922 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,720 Difficulties. That's cool. 923 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,880 So now I want to watch. I love cars. 924 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,680 Cars is the first. Cars are so good. 925 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,840 The cars are so. Good. 926 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,280 It's just so comfortable. We don't talk about cars too. 927 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,240 We. Don't talk about. 928 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,440 Cars too. And then we get to. 929 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,720 We're almost done. We got two more things we get 930 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,960 to. You're talking to the kids. 931 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,960 We're almost done. Hang in there, guys. 932 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,520 We're almost there. We're almost there. 933 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:41,080 We're almost there and and we get to Tower of Terror. 934 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,600 And so this one, you know, was tough for a lot of people. 935 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,120 What do you mean? Why? 936 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,880 Because it was reimagined to the Guardians of the Galaxy. 937 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,720 Oh, oh, oh, you're so you're, you're talking about the reimag. 938 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,800 You're not talking about when they decided to make it here. 939 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,920 No, this is their reimagining of Tower of Terror. 940 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,640 Tower of Terror. Tower of Terror into Guardians 941 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:11,320 of the Galaxy mission breakout and so it this was who was the 942 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,120 imagineer on this one? This was Jeanette Lomboy. 943 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,240 Lomboy it. Does need who was Marilyn needs 944 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,320 some love? Definitely. 945 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:26,520 Who was in charge of She was told she was assigned to put 946 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,040 Marvel into Disney's California Adventure immediately. 947 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,800 They had to figure out a way to get Marvel into DCA. 948 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,200 Calm down you guys immediately. Like chill out. 949 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,800 And she had only been in the job a month. 950 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,560 So she was, she was, you know, fresh. 951 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,000 She had interned with Imagineers for a while. 952 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,960 She was a production assistant. And so she was familiar. 953 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,400 But this was like her first real Imagineer job. 954 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,720 And so they they thought of different things like what could 955 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,160 we do? They thought they originally 956 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,680 considered Spider Man. Which they brought him in as a 957 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,280 character. Eventually brought Spider Man in 958 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,040 with Avengers campus but. Oh wait, but remember when he 959 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,360 was like, in that little corner? Oh, that's right. 960 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,680 Where you could meet him. But you know what? 961 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,000 That Guardians may have already been Guardians at that point. 962 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:20,440 I think it was OK. And so they, they were thinking, 963 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,280 OK, what, where can we put Guardians or where, where could, 964 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,520 what type of Marvel story could they put into California 965 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,440 adventure easily? And so that's when they, they, 966 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,080 the Jeanette and the other imagineer, there were big 967 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,560 guardians, Guardians Galaxy friends. 968 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,840 And so it what really turned them, what's the music? 969 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,480 Because music, they, they all, they all kept emphasizing music. 970 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,360 It really adds another element to a lot of these rides. 971 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,640 And so this, you know, the Guardians Galaxy has a great 972 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:58,480 soundtrack. And so they pitched it to Bob 973 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,960 Weiss, who was, you know, the head of Imagineering, and he 974 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:09,280 built Tower of Terror. And he gave the go ahead. 975 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,720 And they said, can you do it in 15 months? 976 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,480 Because Guardians Galaxy was coming out. 977 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,880 And so they wanted to time the release of the ride with the 978 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,920 movie, with the second movie, I believe it was the second movie. 979 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,440 And so they said yes, but they didn't know how they were going 980 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,560 to do it. And they thought themselves, 981 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:35,000 well, if Walt could build Disneyland in the year, they can 982 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,680 turn a already existing ride into something else. 983 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,680 And so they were, they had 15 months to do it. 984 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,160 And so while the ride was still running as Tower of Terror, they 985 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,680 would program the new ride in the middle of the night. 986 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,720 So they were testing it during the middle of night, just trying 987 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,120 different combinations, different music, like would this 988 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,000 work? Does that work? 989 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,840 And so. How did they say how long 'cause 990 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,200 I don't remember did they say how long it was closed? 991 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,280 I don't remember, no. Wonder if I could find it 'cause 992 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,480 I don't remember. I don't remember. 993 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,200 I'm gonna look it up, see if I can figure it out. 994 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,480 So, so, yeah, so they were, they were programming in the middle 995 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,800 of night. They would write it multiple 996 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,200 times in the middle of the night, she said. 997 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,880 They would they, you know, Park would close, they would work on 998 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,480 it. They would drive home at 3:00 AM 999 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,880 and then start the next day. Oh my gosh. 1000 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,560 So then we get into Avengers Campus and so. 1001 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,040 Wait, hang on. I just have to say yeah. 1002 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,960 Which I mean, I've said it on the podcast before, but man, I 1003 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,200 wasn't happy. I'm not. 1004 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,400 I was not like I grew up watching the Twilight. 1005 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,280 Twilight Zone was before my time, but I loved Tower of 1006 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,600 Terror. I was not happy about them 1007 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,640 bringing Marvel into the park at all. 1008 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,520 I was like, this is Disney, get out of here. 1009 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:09,520 And I wasn't excited about it. Guardians of the Galaxy Mission 1010 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,280 Breakout is one of the best rides I've ever been on in my 1011 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,600 life. It is, it is amazing. 1012 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,440 The music, the the thrill, it's. Just different. 1013 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,440 Yes, it is still a drop ride, but it is different. 1014 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,400 It is not the same. So I don't want to give any 1015 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,920 spoilers, but it's it's not the same. 1016 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,640 It's just it's different. And then when we were in Disney 1017 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:45,760 World in 24/20/24, you and I, we went on their Tower of Terror 1018 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,680 and I was like, Yep, this confirms it. 1019 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,520 Yeah, it's. Better. 1020 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,040 OK. You want a spoiler? 1021 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,160 I like if it didn't make me feel like I was. 1022 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,840 Yeah. And they chose to keep it. 1023 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,120 Yeah. And I, I, and you know, people 1024 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:08,840 in Disney World, they love it. But it it holds nothing to 1025 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,280 guardians. Guardians. 1026 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:17,000 Like, and you know, you know, if if you've been around for a 1027 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:24,880 minute, back in November, I was in California Adventure and Mr. 1028 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,200 Sprinkles was in Hollywood Studios and we did a battle on 1029 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,080 TikTok in front of Guardians and then Tower. 1030 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,520 He was in front of Tower and then we both wrote it and 1031 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,400 streamed side by side. You guys, it's just better. 1032 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,320 OK, Guardians mission breakout. If you want to spoil, yes. 1033 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,120 The drops, the drops are better, Aaron said. 1034 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,400 The drops are better in California, but the pre show is 1035 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,200 better in Florida. OK, I could see that. 1036 01:05:54,200 --> 01:06:00,520 And well, and I will say the theming, not necessarily now 1037 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,480 because it's Guardians, it's not a hotel anymore. 1038 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:10,920 When it was Tower of Terror in California, the queue and the 1039 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,680 outside of the building in Disney World is better. 1040 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,280 It looks like a hotel. The queue, you get into the 1041 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,640 theme more. So the queue I think is better. 1042 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:29,040 Fun fact, Tower of Terror before it switched to Guardians in 1043 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:34,480 California is taller than Tower of Terror in Orlando. 1044 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,080 Mainly because when they isn't. That they talk about that on the 1045 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,960 imaginary behind the. Attraction because when they 1046 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,920 built Tower of Terror in Orlando, you have to, when a 1047 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,080 building gets to a certain height, you have to put a red 1048 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,440 light, a flashing red light on the top to warn airplanes 1049 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,680 because if they fly too low, they might run into it. 1050 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,040 So they didn't want to do that. So they kept it at a certain 1051 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,320 length height. So they didn't have to do that 1052 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,840 in California. They didn't worry about that. 1053 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,160 And so they made it taller. And so you actually, you know, 1054 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,480 drop farther in California than you do in Orlando. 1055 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,440 And OK, I just left, it was only closed for a little under 5 1056 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,960 months. Oh wow, yeah, it's not very 1057 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,840 long, yeah, but yeah, if you want to spoil Guardians. 1058 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,240 Mission Breakout if you don't want to spoil, mute. 1059 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,120 Mute me if you're listening to the podcast. 1060 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,920 Turn it down, skip it, whatever you got to do. 1061 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:40,640 The best parts of Guardians Galaxy is that you don't slowly 1062 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,000 go up like Tower of Terror and then drop immediately when the 1063 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,760 ride starts. You get shot up full speed and 1064 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,560 then you drop. So you get your stomach goes 1065 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,120 down into your butt and then your stomach goes up into your 1066 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,040 throat when you drop. And the, it was because I 1067 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,160 remember the first time we wrote it thinking, oh, it's going to 1068 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,120 be the exact same. It's just going to be Guardians 1069 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,040 of the Galaxy. So that's what we're expecting. 1070 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,120 We're expecting like the story, because the story would go and 1071 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,720 it would talk about the hotel while you were slowly going up, 1072 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:25,720 at least in Disneyland and then. It's the worst. 1073 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,520 And so that's what we're expecting. 1074 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:37,880 And it was like a what? Also, if you go, I mean, you 1075 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,800 could ask, but you get in. When they put you to the 1076 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,920 elevator, you either go to one on the right or the left. 1077 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,279 You want the one on the right because not when you get the 1078 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,000 initially, like at the very beginning before you go into the 1079 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,880 room with the, what's his name, Rocket. 1080 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,920 No, not Rocket the like inventor guy. 1081 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,040 Oh gosh, what is his name? That guy, the collector, the 1082 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,880 collector guy, Yeah. If you get to the if you, they 1083 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,760 put you in the line to the right. 1084 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,120 You don't go upstairs to then get on the. 1085 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,680 The third there's two on the bottom. 1086 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,080 Wait, wait, what is it called though? 1087 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,359 It's not called an elevator anymore. 1088 01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:19,920 What do they call it The? Gantry lift. 1089 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,560 The gantry lift so you don't go upstairs where the if you go to 1090 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,479 the left then you come out on the other side and you walk 1091 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,880 upstairs to go into a line. But if you don't go upstairs, 1092 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,880 the initial shoot up is bigger. It's better. 1093 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,960 It is better. It's not. 1094 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,359 It's not better because it's different. 1095 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,000 It's better. It's just because it's better. 1096 01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:46,359 It's just it's more intense. It's more. 1097 01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:47,600 Intense. It's. 1098 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:52,040 More intense and that the vibe is just different and more fun. 1099 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,240 The music's great and it's different every time you go. 1100 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,880 That's that's another thing. Every time you write it, it's 1101 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,840 different. Whereas Tower terror, terror, 1102 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,120 terror. You know what though? 1103 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,480 Someone told me that it was they do change it in Disney World. 1104 01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:09,280 Is that accurate? Disney World friends? 1105 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:16,960 Anybody know that it changes a bit like the the way the drops 1106 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,840 move? Because I know when we went on 1107 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,240 it in Tower of Terror in 2024, I like barely around the 1108 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,080 butterflies. Yeah, it was kind of lame. 1109 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,680 And I was like, what in the world? 1110 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,040 What is this? Aaron, we agree to disagree 1111 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,760 anyways. So the last. 1112 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,040 Section. What? 1113 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,720 Yeah, I agree with you, friend, but that's OK. 1114 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,320 We don't have to agree, but we can still be friends. 1115 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,080 The last section that they went on talked about was Avengers 1116 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:48,520 Campus, which is one of the New Orleans or the newest land at 1117 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:54,360 California Adventure and they were 90% done. 1118 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:59,880 Like they were like 2 to three months away from opening the 1119 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:01,880 park. I remember this in 2019 they 1120 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,720 were closed. They had a date announced. 1121 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,680 Yeah, I remember I had a friend who had was planning on going. 1122 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,400 They had, yeah, reservations or they didn't have to have park 1123 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,240 reservations at the time, but I had a hotel and stuff. 1124 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:16,720 So in 2019, it was about to open about 2-3 months away and then 1125 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:21,160 COVID hit and the park closed. Whereas, you know, if you think 1126 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,640 about Disney World, Disney World was only closed for a couple 1127 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,520 months. So crazy. 1128 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,520 Disneyland was closed for over a year. 1129 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:36,600 And so when Disneyland closed, they, they talked about 1130 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,200 imagineers were just heartbroken because they were, they were 1131 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:46,400 ready to, to bring this land, the first new land in a long 1132 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:52,720 time to California Adventure. And they had to they placed the, 1133 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,280 the Quinn jet, the, the jet that's on top of the The 1134 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,520 Avengers building. They placed it and they said 1135 01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,360 they everyone was crying because. 1136 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,400 They. Couldn't let people experience 1137 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:06,360 this because it was closed when they did that and so they had to 1138 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,840 weatherproof everything and then everything just sat for over a 1139 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,040 year. Sad. 1140 01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:16,960 And so Avengers campus became the first land open when 1141 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:22,720 Disneyland Resort reopened 2021 and so and they're still 1142 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,160 expanding it. So as you know, they're. 1143 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,640 Yeah, they're. They're building 2 new rides. 1144 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,800 I'm excited. I think they're going to be, I 1145 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,520 think they're going to be really good from what they described at 1146 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,480 the D-23 couple years ago or a year ago or whatever. 1147 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,400 So I think they're. Going to be really good one is 1148 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,360 called Tony Stark's flight lab or Stark flight lab, which is 1149 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:45,640 you're you and another person are like in these chairs and a 1150 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,360 robotic arm takes you and it like spins you around. 1151 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,480 You're supposed to be like mimicking like being Iron Man 1152 01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:53,160 and flying around and different things. 1153 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:58,240 And so that looks fun. And then the Big E Ticket Ride, 1154 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,600 which is supposed to be on the level of Rise of the Resistance, 1155 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,240 but Avengers. OK. 1156 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:09,560 So that'll be cool. Yeah, I think it's I'm really 1157 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,360 excited about it because I, I do like Avengers. 1158 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,800 I wasn't crazy about it coming to the parks, but I do like The 1159 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:21,520 Avengers and the the land I like like cuz the The Avengers music 1160 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,320 is really good. And so walking through hearing 1161 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,000 the music is good, but then you're kind of like. 1162 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,480 There's not a lot to do. There's. 1163 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,320 Not much to do. I like Pimp's Kitchen and I like 1164 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:34,160 Mission Breakout. I do like web singers. 1165 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,920 I just cannot do good at that ride. 1166 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,800 You always beat me. I just I can't figure it out. 1167 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,720 Yes, I do. Yeah. 1168 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,280 I do. I do well at that ride, not 1169 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,000 compared to the other. When you get off the right and 1170 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,520 they tell you the scores of the people that day and I'm like, Oh 1171 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,400 my gosh. Because you can get those power 1172 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,440 up items, you can get those like little like arm blasters, you 1173 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,040 like the the toys that like multiply your your points. 1174 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,760 So but anyways, that was the panel. 1175 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,480 That was it. They ended with Avengers campus. 1176 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:10,640 You know, they, they did mention like, because they, the, the 1177 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:15,160 imagineers that came in after the original imagineers, you 1178 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,160 know, they kind of like felt bad, like they redid everything 1179 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,880 that the original imagineers did. 1180 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,000 But they said that they, they always wanted to honor all those 1181 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,640 that came before us by doing their homework and respecting 1182 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:31,680 the work and the, the, and, you know, honoring that in the parks 1183 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,640 evolution and the spirit of the park. 1184 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,840 So they didn't want to just erase what the original 1185 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:42,880 Imagineers did, but wanted to, you know, plus it up and and 1186 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,440 still honor the work that they already did. 1187 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,520 So that was it. Well, that's cool. 1188 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:53,400 Yeah, I I love DCA. Do you have the pen that they? 1189 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:58,240 Yeah. So so all those that were that 1190 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:03,400 got to the panel got the the special pen sunglass shack. 1191 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,000 I do remember this. I remember the Sunglass Shack. 1192 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,360 And they got a special lanyard and there was another package to 1193 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:14,080 where you could go to the World of Color dessert party without 1194 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,320 having to to have a park ticket so they would take you in there. 1195 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,960 I didn't do that because we were already going to the park so. 1196 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,320 We had all our kids. Yeah, but but it was cool. 1197 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:25,120 It was neat. Yeah. 1198 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,920 I. Liked it, and the most important 1199 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,520 thing was that John Stamos wasn't there. 1200 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,040 He was on there and I didn't miss him. 1201 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,480 No Disney celebrities were there. 1202 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,000 I mean, I did miss him. He was there a few days after 1203 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:40,640 us, but like a week after us. But you know, oh, Justin, I got 1204 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,960 to go to bed. I got to be back in here at 5:30 1205 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,560 in the morning. I'm just going to sleep. 1206 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,360 So. Actually, I could. 1207 01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:49,480 I could just. Sleep. 1208 01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:51,160 You could just sleep. I could just sleep. 1209 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,040 OK hit the live button. Good. 1210 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,280 I know I need a rope driving DCA more than Disneyland. 1211 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,440 It tends to be a quieter morning, yes. 1212 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,000 That's. True. 1213 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,400 I agree. Cody. 1214 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,560 Yes, I do need ice cream. Justin Absolutely so. 1215 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,360 That was. The OK Well, hang on, hang on, 1216 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:14,320 Aaron, don't go anywhere. That was the TCA panel. 1217 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,520 Hope you enjoyed it. Yes, I did. 1218 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:23,720 If you like this podcast, thank you and leave us a review 1219 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,400 wherever you're listening. If you're listening on Apple 1220 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,920 Podcasts, leave a review. Spotify hit those five stars. 1221 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,680 We appreciate it and. We'll be back with something 1222 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:34,840 else I don't know. Yeah, we'll. 1223 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,800 We got to come up with something to talk about now. 1224 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,120 Talk about now I. Just need to go again. 1225 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,000 If you're listening on podcasts, we stream live on TikTok. 1226 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,080 If you're streaming live with us on TikTok, you can listen to 1227 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:50,160 this podcast tomorrow. So we appreciate all you that 1228 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,400 are here with us live. We appreciate all those of you 1229 01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:55,080 that are listening us wherever you may be. 1230 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,720 You can find us on TikTok during the Disney podcast. 1231 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,720 We're also on IG if you want to follow us there. 1232 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,960 And yeah, until. Talk about something next time. 1233 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,120 Yeah. Until next time, talk to you 1234 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,840 later. Bye.