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Yo, an old school Wall Street 
trader who just predicted 

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exactly what the Bitcoin price 
would be on the 14th of March 

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from 5 months ago is now making 
an even more interesting 

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prediction. 
I mean he hit the nail on the 

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head. 
He said exactly the date, he 

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said exactly the price, and this
was like 6 months ago. 

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It was absolutely surreal. 
Could this be the new Bitcoin 

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Nissan algae? 
We're going to talk about it. 

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He is now predicting A440K 
Bitcoin in the not too distant 

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future and is making the case 
that we're watching a once in 

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100 year event today. 
We're going to be breaking down 

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this bold prediction, whether 
it's true, whether it's BS where

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the Bitcoin Twitter is just 
completely tired and bored and 

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they're just tired of the chip 
solidation have something they 

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need something to talk about. 
We're going to be talking about 

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all of that. 
We're going to be unpacking it. 

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It's going to be a great show, 
but before we jump into it, 

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smash the like button. 
I'm going to bring up Opti. 

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I'm going to bring up our guest 
Muzman. 

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I'm going to bring up our other 
guests, Mateo Muzman from 

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lightning ventures. 
Of course, Mateo from the orange

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pull up. 
All right, everybody, no more 

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delay. 
Let's jump straight into today's

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news. 
So what am I talking about? 

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I mean, this was this was pretty
crazy. 

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I mean, you know, the saying 
comes into play, right? 

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A a broken clock is right twice 
or something, something along 

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those lines. 
So I mean, this could be 

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absolute luck, but it could also
be something deeper. 

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I don't know, who knows? 
So this was from November 5th of

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2024. 
This is Josh Mandel. 

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Josh Mandel, apparently, you 
know, you never know whether 

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something's true online or not. 
He's an he's an ex Wall Street 

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trader from Salomon Brothers. 
But it gets really crazy so 

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check it out and it's all 
cryptic and stuff. 

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It's kind of strange. 
So he says. 

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I hope that I have established a
little credibility with a few of

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you so that this will help. 
This time is different. 

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The 4th turning is upon us. 
Thursday 1171162531425 When 84 

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becomes the base Bitcoin calls 
will melt their face. 

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This is how you get ahead by I 
bit calls in size instead. 12:50

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You'll ride it up the stock. 
It soars into the skies. 

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Don't sell the call and 
exercise. 

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See the path of Pistol Pete. 
Try a slug and then repeat. 

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Look every day at close and 
Lowe's. 

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When 84 is on the dot, the car 
will launch a real whole shot. 

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Feel the GS, hear the roar. 
The coin won't stop 360 more. 

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A trio force times a grand. 
That's the top. 

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The BTC fades. 
This is how a cowboy trades a 

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nation state down by the sea. 
I think I'd call it empathy. 

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No room for hate nor jealousy. 
Essentials. 

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They would be on me. 
Working if you want, but just 

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for fun. 
Think in the shade, play in the 

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sun. 
I mean, like, what the what the 

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F right? 
Normally you'd be like, OK, this

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is this is cuckoo, this is 
crazy. 

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But the Bitcoin price on March 
14th, 2025 was exactly, I think 

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it closed that day at exactly 
$84,000. 

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And of course, all of Bitcoin 
Twitter is absolutely using 

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their minds. 
He follows up this original poem

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slash post with MSTR N guys 
here's the path to 10X multiple 

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the the liquidity I bit calls 
will offer Sailor would be 

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amazing. 
All they have to do is get the 

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new SEC chair to authorize 
redemption in kind so that he 

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could use the ETF to lever 
himself up from 84 K to 444 K, 

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then take his coin. 
Kind of cryptic, little bit 

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interesting. 
Obviously the dude becomes an 

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overnight celebrity and he 
follows up with some of his 

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latest posts he said. 
So here's the way I remember the

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rules working. close between 80K
and 84K means the rally can 

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continue from here, probably up 
to 100K by month end. 

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So essentially he's saying that 
he expects the Bitcoin price can

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be at 100K by the end of the 
month. 

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Who knows if it closes at 84 K 
exactly. 

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We run the table, historical, 
historic moves. 

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Above 84 K, we slip back down 
and the rally fails. 

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I didn't really make up these 
rules. 

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It's been many years, but this 
is what I recall. 

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Good luck. 
Then, he continues. 

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This was back in December. 
I bring to the community decades

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of mistakes survived, and I hope
this experience will assist a 

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younger generation in their 
quest to achieve the American 

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dream. 
Please, I ask you to never 

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forget those who need. 
I mean, he's rhyming. 

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He's kind of interesting. 
Here is Luke Broyles and he's 

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responding. 
He's quote posting. 

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He says now that you are Luke, 
I'm going to own this. 

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Why is nobody talking about 440,
four, 144,402 and 75 cents? 

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I think he's referring obviously
referencing to his Bitcoin price

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prediction and the last couple 
of days he's just been 

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absolutely, you know, just going
ham on Giovanni, which was 

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another Bitcoin lease on Al 
Gaib, right? 

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You know, the power law, the 
plan C. 

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This is just I guess this is 
like a Plan B some some type of 

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S type of thing. 
But he says back to two hours 

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ago, he said, sorry, Giovanni, I
have no idea. 

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You were so unpopular as to get 
501 likes in half an hour. 

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Power law was observed, not 
created by Giovanni. 

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Plan C, on the other hand, 
created the quantile model. 

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I live in Giovanni's head down 
by the river. 

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I mean, it's pretty crazy. 
He's he's definitely throwing 

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beef. 
And here's one of the latest 

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things he said. 
OK, so here it goes. 

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I have been somewhat vague and 
have attempted make these latest

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predictions seem like they could
be explained by some system or 

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knowledge of markets. 
This is not true. 

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The truth is that I have a very 
specific prediction based on 

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memories of something that 
happened 30 years ago combined 

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with thoughts which seem ever 
present in my mind. 

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If Bitcoin were to close at 84 K
on March 14th, it will run the 

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table. 
I'm not certain what that means.

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I have a couple thoughts, but 
there's no point unless somehow 

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it actually closes at 84 K. 
The truth is that I am becoming 

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convinced that it may well do 
just that and that the 

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impossible odds of such a thing 
occurring that I will have some 

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explaining to do. 
If this occurs, I will likely 

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take the rest of the month off 
and reach out to family members 

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to let them know what I'm 
planning to reveal. 

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Believe me, I hope I am wrong 
about this because some people 

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are definitely going to view me 
as mentally ill if they are non 

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believers or Oh my God, I don't 
even know what to say. 

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But this is what I got to say. 
I'm going to end it with this. 

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This the new Lisan al gaib. 
I don't know. 

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Let us know down in the comments
if you guys believe Josh 

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Mandel's the new Lisan al gaib. 
I mean, the prediction is is 

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kind of crazy like I don't know 
what to say like it is it is 

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pretty. 
It is pretty jarring that he got

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it so accurate, but again, 
people can get lucky. 

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I also want to give a shout out 
to the live stream. 

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If you guys are enjoying the 
show so far, make sure to smash 

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that like button want to give a 
shout out to the rubble audience

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and of course, the YouTube 
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Opti, is rumble working? 
I don't think it's working my 

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friend. 
Let me see. 

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Yeah, I guess there's a glitch 
on Rumble right now. 

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Yeah, it's trying to send. 
Anyways, I do want to bring. 

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I do want to bring in Muzz, man.
Muzz. 

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What do you think about this, 
bro? 

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I mean it, it was making the 
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weekend, everyone was losing 
their minds that this is the new

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prophet. 
What? 

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What? 
What do you think? 

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What are your thoughts? 
It's remarkable that it was that

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close, you know, And you know, 
the rhyming is great. 

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You know it's very Q and on, but
you know what was the the 

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timeline for the 444 K? 
Is that just sometime this year 

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or is there more detail on an 
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I think he just said top 4444. 
He said triple fours is the top.

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So some people have been saying 
super cycle 2026, but I think 

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he's saying it's the top of this
cycle 2025. 

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So I tried to find that 
information this morning, but as

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of now we're just going to go 
444K top maybe end of 2025, 

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beginning of 2026. 
So take some profits around 

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444,000. 
Yeah, apparently, apparently 

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that's the that's, that's what 
needs to happen. 

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But I mean, it is, it is, it is 
pretty crazy. 

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People can get lucky. 
But I mean, to get lucky to that

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extent, you know, obviously is, 
is very, very interesting to say

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the least. 
Mateo, I don't know if you were 

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on X this weekend, but this is 
this is the current thing that 

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Bitcoiners have been talking 
about. 

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Do you have any thoughts? 
Any commentary? 

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I am an XI am on X more than 
Elon Musk. 

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So the answer is yes. 
But I mean, I had never heard of

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this guy before. 
And then everybody is talking 

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about this guy. 
I'm like, OK, here we go. 

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You know, I guess you can get 
lucky. 

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So I start looking into this 
guy's tweets, right? 

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And, you know, he has a style of
very interesting style of 

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tweeting. 
And what was remarkable for me 

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is that he was insisting that is
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which is already, you know, hard
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He was like, no, no, no, no, no.
For the prophecy to be true, the

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closing should be exactly 84 K 
And it was so like, now, you 

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know, you have to pay attention 
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And I mean, I don't believe in 
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was exactly $84,000 on the 
close. 

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And it makes me think, right, 
what is this guy's all about? 

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I don't know if you guys saw the
news about the latest news about

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Josh Mandel. 
It was that he was arrested once

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for drugs dealing, which 
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But I mean, I'll take 444 K 
anytime. 

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So if he's right, I mean, it's 
better for all of us, right? 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
I mean, so I want to, I want to 

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double back on that idea because
I think a lot of people were 

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expecting Bitcoin to be a lot 
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I think a lot of people were 
like, Oh my God, you know, 

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Bitcoin should be at 120 a 130K 
it's at it's at 80 KA. 

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Lot of people had expectations 
based on the previous cycles. 

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If you compare the previous 
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this cycle, it's definitely a 
little bit underwhelming. 

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I think a lot of people were 
expecting that, obviously 

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because of diminishing returns. 
So I'm going to pass it on to 

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you. 
Ma is like, has Bitcoin become 

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boring? 
Is it just becoming like it's 

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like, is Bitcoin just becoming 
like watching the SNP? 

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No, not at all. 
And you know what else happened 

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this cycle? 
You had the you had the all time

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high before the halving. 
That was pretty unique. 

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You know, for the first time 
ever, we have a a pro Bitcoin 

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president in office. 
We were chatting a little bit a 

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while ago. 
You know, anyone who says it's 

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boring right now, you know, Ross
is free. 

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We have a, a, a Bitcoin 
president in office. 

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We have a a crypto czar, a very 
friendly administration people 

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in the cabinet, you know, 
admittedly with, you know, 

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hundreds of millions of dollars 
worth of Bitcoin. 

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I mean it's it's bright orange 
future, right, it's blue skies 

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ahead. 
I mean this is the most exciting

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time, the last few years being a
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here in the USI mean it was 
nearly impossible to operate. 

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I mean, they did everything in 
their power with Operation Choke

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.2 Point O where you couldn't 
even in some cases have like an 

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operating account when you're 
running a perfectly legitimate 

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United States domiciled Bitcoin 
startup. 

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So now it's another another tune
and a lot of our companies are 

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making headway with banks and 
partnerships and I think we're 

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just going to see a flood of 
amazing products come out there.

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We also just had fold IPO, which
is super exciting as the first, 

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you know, Bitcoin only, I guess 
startup that's traded that's not

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a minor and ASIC manufacturer. 
So I mean, there's never a dull 

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moment in Bitcoin truly. 
So certainly not now. 

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Absolutely 100%. 
I do want to give a shout out to

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the stream. 
Almost 500 people watching live 

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on YouTube smash that like 
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If you guys are enjoying the 
show so far, I want to pass it 

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on to Mateo. 
Mateo, you've been in the 

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industry for a quite a long time
now you have a successful 

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Bitcoin start up. 
What are your thoughts man? 

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Has Bitcoin become boring? 
Has has are Bitcoin's best days 

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behind them. 
I don't think Bitcoin will ever 

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be boring. 
Honestly, I don't think there's 

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going to be a time where Bitcoin
will be boring and definitely 

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not now. 
I think maybe back in, so I got 

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in like 20/17/2018. 
It was more of a Wild West. 

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Like things were like crazier 
than now. 

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Now again, as must say, we have 
a president, they're literally 

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having meet ups at the White 
House, right? 

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And so that's a different, we're
definitely in a different 

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environment now than even like 
two years ago. 

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I think this is like when you 
look at the the conditions on 

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the ground, I don't think you 
could ask for anything better 

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than now. 
Literally like you know, you 

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have the ETF, you have Michael 
Silver buying like, you know, 

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like it's 1999, You have, you 
know, the president, you have 

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the Bitcoin strategic reserve. 
I think maybe now we're like 

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people are a little bit 
disappointed with the price 

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because because you know, we had
higher expectations, right? 

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You had the you have the future 
and then the future is a little 

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bit less than what you thought 
and then you get disappointed. 

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But I think if you go back, so 
if you go back one year ago and 

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I would tell you, hey man, in 
one year we're going to have a 

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pro become president, a peak on 
strategic reserve ETF. 

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Michael Saylor buying like 
crazy. 

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You say, no, wait, it's 
impossible. 

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It's like a dream. 
You're crazy, right? 

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And but here we are. 
So yeah, I don't think it's 

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boring. 
I think just, you know, it's a 

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moment where, you know, we're 
reassessing the expectations 

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maybe. 
But I think fireworks are 

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probably around the corners. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Let's talk about that too, by 
the way. 

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And again, shout out to the live
stream. 

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Also almost 1000 live viewers 
across all platforms. 

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If you guys are enjoying the 
show, smash that like button. 

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Well we broke 100 likes on 
YouTube already Help us break 

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200 likes within the 1st 30 
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Almost 500 of you guys watching 
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Anyways, I'm going to pass it on
to muz. 

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We got this a huge announcement 
from the White House. 

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The White House is posting from 
their ex account. the United 

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States is going to be the 
Bitcoin capital of the world. 

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You know, you had a historic 
moment where Trump at the White 

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House is basically saying like, 
you know, they say don't sell 

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your bitcoins. 
And what did the price do? 

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The price dumped on that news, 
right? 

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You'd be thinking, and you're 
like, Oh my God, the most 

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powerful country, the wealthiest
and most powerful country on the

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face of the planet just told the
entire world they're bullish on 

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Bitcoin. 
They plan to buy Bitcoin. 

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There was news that leaked out 
of the White House on Friday 

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that essentially the White House
is signaling that they have 

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every intention to acquire more 
Bitcoin. 

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They have to say in a budget 
neutral way. 

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But I mean, you would think, you
know, that would send the price 

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to the moon. 
Why has the price dumped? 

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Did the market the market 
already priced this in? 

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What's your take, Moz? 
Well, it's frustrating, right? 

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There's so much positive news 
and when you don't see it 

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immediately reflected in the 
price, you know, all of a sudden

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in manipulation, you know, as if
you know they really care about 

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you know, the three grand in in 
your E*Trade account that 

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they're manipulating on you. 
But buy the rumor, sell the 

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news. 
You know, that old maybe, maybe 

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that's a part of it. 
Maybe there are some games being

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played, you know, with the 
options. 

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Is it Wall Street's little tool 
now? 

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There's probably a lot of people
who really don't mind lower 

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Bitcoin prices when they're in a
huge, you know, accumulation 

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phase. 
So maybe it's just the last 

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shake out. 
You know, maybe it's one more 

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sort of flush. 
Maybe that's what this move was 

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down to 77 or 78. 
Maybe it's one more flush and 

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then we start seeing the price 
really melt everyone's faces 

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off. 
I mean, that's really what I'm 

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expecting. 
But it's also you got to look at

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like the global breadth of the 
indexes. 

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You know, I think the NASDAQ 
shed, I don't know, 3 1/2 to 5% 

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in a day. 
I mean, that's a massive move. 

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I mean, they're just seeing 
trillions, you know, erased from

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equities and other markets. 
So, you know, Bitcoin still a 

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risk on asset, even though for 
us the risk is Fiat, right? 

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The risk is not having any 
Bitcoin. 

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But for a lot of people that are
out there, it's another story. 

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And you have a lot of people who
got into Bitcoin through ETFs 

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and, you know, they're not 
exactly a seasoned toddler. 

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So maybe there's a little bit of
that. 

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But you know, it's just another 
good time to really stack and 

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accumulate and build your 
position, get to that number 

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that you've always had as a 
bitcoiner. 

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Everyone wants a number and now 
is the time to get there before 

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we get to 444,000. 
Yeah, man, I think it'll be out 

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of grass, out of grass for most,
most people just to acquire 1 

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full coin. 
I feel like it's out of the 

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grass for most people right now,
$80,000 is, is a tremendous 

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amount of money. 
Anyways, I'm going to pass it on

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to Mateo. 
Mateo, what's your take on this?

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Are you overwhelmed? 
Are you underwhelmed with this 

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current bull market, especially 
with the white, the, the news 

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coming out of the White House? 
I mean, the talk of the 

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strategic Bitcoin reserve, you 
as a Bitcoin entrepreneur, the 

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end of Operation Choke point 
2.0. 

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I mean, I thought we all, we all
thought we were going to go to 

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jail last year. 
We were all going to get sent to

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the gulag. 
But you know it, it seems like 

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the political landscape 
definitely cleared up. 

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What's your take, Mateo? 
I can tell you for a fact that 

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personal and so in our case, 
Orange fly, we have so we just 

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launched a wallet, right? 
And I people have told me, oh, 

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this app should have a wallet. 
This app since we launched, 

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which is back in 2022. 
And I was almost I almost built 

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it at some point. 
And then I was about to launch 

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it last summertime. 
And that's when the like the FBI

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notice came out, you know, surf 
custody, you know, it's illegal,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 
And I'm like, OK, we're not 

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launching the wallet because I 
don't want to hire more lawyers 

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and developers. 
And the moment that Trump won 

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the election, I told my 
developers, OK, the first thing 

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we do now, as soon as he gets in
office, we're launching the 

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wallet. 
So without a doubt, I've been 

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the administration being even if
it's not super pro Bitcoin, 

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which I think it is, but if they
just leave us alone, you know, 

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really all Bitcoiners want is to
be left alone. 

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And you know, and so that we can
build the infrastructure, we can

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build the, you know, all the 
service that are going to take 

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us to Bitcoin being more 
adopted. 

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And so yeah, I mean, having a 
pro Bitcoin president, pro crypt

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or whatever you want to call it,
it's it's it's especially if 

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you're AUS company with US 
investors, you know, you live in

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the US, it's definitely a game 
changer. 

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And you know, we're going to 
build so many stuff that 

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honestly, if Kamal had won, we, 
we wouldn't have built. 

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So when people say, you know, 
it's, it's always funny to say, 

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well, elections don't matter. 
Bitcoin doesn't care. 

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I mean, maybe Bitcoin doesn't 
care, but the people that use 

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Bitcoin that might be arrested, 
you know, they probably care 

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about not getting arrested. 
And you know the beauty to build

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all this stuff, you know, like 
it's better. 

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You know, it's like, do you want
to build an Internet company in 

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the US or in like North Korea or
Iran, right? 

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Like obviously you want to do in
the US because it's more pro 

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Internet, pro online companies. 
And I think the same is going to

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be like in 20 years from now or 
10 years from now, we're going 

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to look back and say, Hey, you 
built AUS company, a Bitcoin 

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U.S. company, which was better 
than building 1, let's say in 

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France or Europe, you know, 
where all these crazy rules. 

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And maybe now we don't see yet 
because it's just playing out. 

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But I think in 5-10 years we're 
going to look back and say, Oh 

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yeah, that was a game changer 
for the for the Bitcoin 

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industry. 
So yeah, I'm very the price is 

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the price, you know, the price 
is the price. 

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You know, if you've been in 
Bitcoin for years like we all 

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have, you're used to like the 
price not doing what you want it

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to do. 
Like back in 2021, right? 

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We also 100 KA 100 K never 
happened. 

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We used to say, wow, you're 
never gonna go below the 

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previous old time high. 
I don't know if you guys 

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remembered that, which was like 
20,000 and sure enough, 16 K. 

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And so I will say like don't 
worry too much about the price. 

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Bitcoin is gonna go off forever 
and you know, just hold for the 

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long run. 
You know, don't don't be swayed 

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by the like the two minutes 
candle of the one day candle. 

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Absolutely noise. 100% focus on 
the signal. 

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Anyways, I do want to give a 
shout out to the live stream. 

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Almost 1000 people between 
YouTube Rumble and X. 

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If you guys are enjoying the 
show so far, make sure to smash 

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that like button. 552 of you 
guys watching live on YouTube 

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alone, we're already almost at 
150 likes. 

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Help us break 200 likes within 
the 1st 30 minutes of the show. 

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Anyways, I'm going to pass it on
to Opti. 

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Opti, you've been building this 
out from building this out with 

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me over the last couple of years
my friend. 

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How is the price right now under
your expectations, above your 

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expectations? 
I mean, is Bitcoin becoming 

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boring? 
Are we going to have to rebrand 

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to simply Fiat for things to get
more exciting? 

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Opti, what's your take? 
Well, I was telling you this 

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morning and I've been saying it 
for a couple of I'm, I'm on the 

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fence here. 
I'm, I am, I think what we're 

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seeing right now might be kind 
of like the the last bear trap, 

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the last shake out before it 
does run kind of still following

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the old cycles of, you know, 
2013 20/17/2021. 

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There's always kind of one last 
bear trap before it starts 

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pumping. 
And it does seem to be following

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exactly that, like Wall Street 
psychology chart that, you know,

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everyone flips around on 
Twitter. 

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That does seem to be playing 
out. 

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Obviously 2020's hindsight. 
So we'll know towards the end of

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the year if that's playing out. 
Though my gut feeling, and since

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we are kind of in a new paradigm
is, is what I was telling you 

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earlier, maybe the new structure
is, you know, like slight pump, 

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then go sideways, consolidate, 
and then it does the stepwise 

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function where it just pumps a 
little bit and it doesn't do 

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these crazy run up like we've 
seen in the past. 

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Obviously, that's still a 
theory. 

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We won't know until hindsight. 
But going to this Josh Mandel 

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tweet here and all the craze 
around Twitter, it is absolutely

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incredible that he picked the 
exact day and we really don't 

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know how he got these rules. 
He's like it's some vague. 

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He's literally like vibe trading
and this isn't TA charting here.

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He's just like, this is the 
vibes here, some vague memory of

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what the price should be doing 
and it hit perfectly and 

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everyone freaks out on Twitter. 
Obviously, we love to see some 

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predictions play out. 
It's just like it's human. 

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I think it's human nature at 
this point. 

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We just love to see someone call
something five months out and 

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get it literally perfect. 
And now the next prediction is 

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Hey, we're going to see 444 K 
and he's like, how did you get 

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that number? 
He's like, I'm just, it's a vibe

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thing, bro. 
It's like, trust me, based off 

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my vibes, bro. 
And we're like, yes, send it 

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though. 
I do like, and I was trolling 

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over the weekend as well. 
If he hit that 84K, which we 

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00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,680
did, or really it was like you 
if you heard it, it wasn't 84 

445
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,280
exactly. 
It's if it's between 80 and 84 K

446
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000
close, then it's going to go 
much higher. 

447
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,360
And if it went over 84 K, then 
it was going to dump. 

448
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,400
Well, we literally he nailed it 
in in regards to those 

449
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,320
parameters. 
So the next move is we'll see by

450
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,320
the end of the month. 
Are we going to get 100K by the 

451
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,560
end of March? 
Would love to see that. 

452
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,040
That would continue to add some 
more fire to this idea of him 

453
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
being the least on Algaeim. 
He is my quaint here. 

454
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320
And how does your quaint get 
these numbers? 

455
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,760
He's like, it's just vibes bro. 
Like I, I have some idea of how 

456
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760
this is going to work and, and 
I'm just going to keep nailing 

457
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,720
it. 
So 100K by end of this month and

458
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,320
then we'll see 444 K by 2025. 
Or I heard some people saying 

459
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,280
that it was going to be 444 K by
2026. 

460
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,480
Now, if that does play out, then
we can pretty much very clearly 

461
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,200
say that the cycle theory is 
going to break because a lot of 

462
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,480
us are thinking 2026 is going to
be a bear market. 

463
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,320
If we get this perpetual pump 
through 2025 into 2026, then 

464
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,400
maybe this this is, you know, 
this time is different. 

465
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,200
And I think the biggest part 
about his tweet is this whole 

466
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,560
idea of the fourth turning here.
He's like, this time is 

467
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,680
different. 
This is a once in a lifetime 

468
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,880
opportunity. 
You're never going to get this 

469
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,680
back. 
So obviously cherish this moment

470
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,920
moment because things are 
fundamentally changing. 

471
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,720
And I think that's the message 
that we have to kind of continue

472
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,360
to spread to people. 
It's like this is a 

473
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,360
fundamentally paradigm shifting 
moment in history. 

474
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:41,280
We obviously know now that the 
Trump administration and nation 

475
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,720
states are fumbling into 
Bitcoin. 

476
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040
We know all the biggest 
institutions are starting to 

477
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,960
FOMO into Bitcoin so I wouldn't 
be surprised if cycle theory 

478
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,360
does break. 
We already kind of seen that 

479
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:55,160
happen last year. 
Like Muzz was saying the the 

480
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,120
meme of we will never see an all
time high before the halving. 

481
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,240
We broke that and now everyone 
is just kind of trying to wrap 

482
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,240
their head around and and get 
their own mental model of what 

483
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,360
is this price doing because we 
have literally no clue. 

484
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:10,080
Like we are in uncharted 
territory right now and hey, I'd

485
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,120
love A444K Bitcoin by this year 
or going into next year. 

486
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:16,800
That sounds great to me. 
So hey, a little hope you a 

487
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,840
Monday. 
But we we love to see some 

488
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,080
predictions play out, so here we
are. 

489
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:25,120
I'm going to go around the horn 
by the way, but broke 600 live 

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Verge 1000 live viewers across 

491
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live viewers on Rumbles. 

492
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We're at 170 likes. 

494
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760
Help us break 200 likes within 
the 1st 30 minutes of the show. 

495
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We got 4 minutes to hit that 
goal. 

496
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Anyways, I'm going to pass it on
the horn. 

497
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,800
Is Josh Mandel the new Lisa and 
Algaeb of Bitcoin? 

498
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,720
I'm going to define what that 
means. 

499
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,360
Essentially, Plan B was a Lisa 
and Algaeb, Plan C was a Lisan 

500
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,400
al gaib, Giovanni was a Lisan al
gaib. 

501
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,360
But is he the new Lisan al gaib 
of Bitcoin? 

502
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:06,440
Twitter Opti. 
Yes, my coin trades on vibes. 

503
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320
I think my coin. 
He is most I I agree. 

504
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320
I think he is definitely a Lisan
al Gaib. 

505
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,120
I'm going to pass it on to Maz. 
Maz. 

506
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:16,480
Is Josh Mandel the new Lisan al 
Gaib? 

507
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Well, for now, he is, you know, 
that's what they say. 

508
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,280
You know, you're only is, is as 
good as your last price 

509
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,480
prediction. 
And I think that we've seen the,

510
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,400
the rise and fall of, of some 
people and how it goes. 

511
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,320
So I'm, I mean, it doesn't look 
like he's making these 

512
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,760
predictions every other day, 
which is great. 

513
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,800
So yeah, for now and let's see 
what happens. 

514
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,600
You remember that time traveller
that was on red end? 

515
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,840
Yeah, Yeah. 
That was great. 

516
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Happened and then, you know, and
then all of a sudden it didn't 

517
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,360
happen. 
You know, one of the things, so 

518
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,720
I mean, for right now, I mean, 
kudos to Josh and and definitely

519
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:05,800
given the Bulls a lot of a lot 
of drugs. 100% And last but not 

520
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,720
least, Mateo Thomas is 100% 
right. 

521
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720
I do enjoy saying Lisa and Al 
Gaidi. 

522
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,800
It's fun to say Mateo, I'm going
to make you full screen totally 

523
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,360
serious. 
Is Josh Mandel the new Lisa and 

524
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:24,080
Al Gaib of Bitcoin? 
Well, first of all, I don't know

525
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,360
what Lisa. 
I don't even know what that guy 

526
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:30,280
is. 
I'm sorry. 

527
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,680
But I guess it's somebody to 
believe the future from the from

528
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,840
the thing he has in his nose. 
Is that how you predict the 

529
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,600
future? 
I think so. 

530
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,560
I mean, yeah, I mean as, as my 
said, yeah, for now, like you 

531
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:51,160
can be like everybody can be the
guy with the nose for like a day

532
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,560
and right. 
And then and then somebody else 

533
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480
going to come and it's going to 
have a bigger, you know, a 

534
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,040
bigger nose thing. 
And it's going to be more Lisa, 

535
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,920
whatever the name it is than 
you. 

536
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,080
So I don't know. 
I don't know who the hell is 

537
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000
this guy anyway? 
It's the guy from dude it's with

538
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120
me and that was making the 
rounds anyways, so you guys you 

539
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640
guys heard it here. 
We all agree this is the new 

540
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Lisa and I'll game for now until
he gets, I mean, let's see 

541
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,240
'cause I'm telling you if he 
gets this 444K price prediction 

542
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,720
right. 1st 100K end of month if 
he gets 100K end of month. 

543
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Like, we're all gonna be losing 
our minds. 

544
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,360
We're gonna be like, who the 
fuck is this guy? 

545
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400
So, yeah, but every, you know, 
everyone must. 

546
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440
What what, 100K end a month? 
That wasn't a prediction, right?

547
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,120
No, he said. 
Yeah. 

548
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,280
He essentially said if the 
Bitcoin price closes on March 

549
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:54,760
14th, 2025 at in between 80 to 
84 K, then the price is going to

550
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,840
go much higher. 
And then he followed it up with 

551
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,120
100K by end of the month. 
And then he followed that one up

552
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,240
with 444K by, I don't know, 
20252026. 

553
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320
So I guess we'll be watching 2 
weeks. 

554
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,280
Are we running to 100K? 
Wow, he didn't leave himself 

555
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,680
much time for air under K By the
end of the month. 

556
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,760
There's not really too many 
people going to be looking to 

557
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,200
this guy as the as you know, to 
hitch their wagon to his star. 

558
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Hopefully that happens, you 
know, but the way Bitcoin goes, 

559
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,400
you can have 100K end a week, 
you know, that's kind of the 

560
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,640
goods go. 
I mean, if that happens, I feel 

561
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,960
like everyone's going to lose 
their minds. 

562
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,200
Anyways, we're on the verge of 
breaking 200 likes. 

563
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1.66 trillion Bitcoin versus 
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631
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issued 94.46% Declined from all 
time high -23.5%. 

632
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,000
Realized monetary inflation 
.92%. 

633
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Bitcoin continued to take Fiat 
currencies to absolute school. 

634
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Anyways, over the weekend 
there's some pretty interesting 

635
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content that dropped. 
Michael Saylor went on Fox 

636
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Business and did a couple 
interviews. 

637
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,160
Pub Key was featured. 
I have the video of that. 

638
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,000
And of course there's a sit down
interview of Michael Saylor at 

639
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his Miami mansion. 
Let's check out some of those 

640
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,760
clips. 
Kevin, let me ask you this. 

641
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,280
You say start small, but is it 
safe? 

642
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,800
A lot of people aren't sure. 
When I send my money, if I if I 

643
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,320
use my money and I put it in 
crypto, where does it go and is 

644
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,200
it safe? 
That's a great question. 

645
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,160
And if you try and do this on 
your own in a decentralized 

646
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wallet, as they're called, 
someone will hack you most 

647
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,680
likely because you don't know 
what you're doing. 

648
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,640
To make it safe, go to an 
accredited exchange like 

649
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Coinbase, something that is is, 
you know, regulated, but also 

650
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that you can see every day on 
your phone that has million. 

651
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
I mean, before I move, I'm 
before I keep it going. 

652
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,040
I mean, Mr. Wonderful at Public 
Key, but you know, terrible, 

653
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,840
terrible take for Mr. Wonderful.
I know Muzz is a big fan. 

654
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560
Muzz, do you, do you have any 
opinions, thoughts, feelings? 

655
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,600
I think you're muted, brother. 
Perhaps Mr. Wonderful needs to 

656
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:08,000
take a trip down the old What's 
happened with exchanges in the 

657
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,320
past 12 years? 
Perhaps old Mr. Wonderful needs 

658
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:18,400
to revisit, you know, Mount Gox,
Kripsy, my God, you know, he was

659
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,000
probably out there. 
I mean, he was an FTX spokesman,

660
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,760
I think. 
I think he actually showed FTX 

661
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,280
and got paid for it. 
So, you know, anyone who 

662
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:32,240
listened to Mr. Wonderful then 
is not feeling so wonderful now.

663
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,520
I mean, you get what he's 
saying, right? 

664
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,360
I mean, it's, it's still that's 
the challenge with with Bitcoin 

665
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,880
is onboarding. 
You know, I remember I just got 

666
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,400
my mom set up with a hardware 
wallet and she texts me 

667
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,080
sometimes and says I have a 
question about the words, right?

668
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,280
It's funny listening to your 
parents go ahead and think about

669
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,560
mnemonic seed phrases. 
I have a question about my 

670
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920
words. 
And you know, it's still tough, 

671
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,800
right? 
Because there is no 1800 

672
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Bitcoin. 
You know, that's the trade off. 

673
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,720
You know, you make a mistake and
you're going to lose Bitcoin 

674
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,800
forever. 
So, you know, I mean, I kind of 

675
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,200
get what he's saying here and it
is a process, right? 

676
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Maybe you start with a little 
bit of Bitcoin and then once it 

677
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,600
turns into kind of a lot of 
Bitcoin, then you really got to 

678
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,920
think about, you know, taking 
the personal responsibility and 

679
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,960
and taking that next step. 
But you know, exchanges aren't 

680
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,280
safe in any way. 
I mean, we all know that. 

681
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,640
I mean, you guys are out there 
every day screaming get your 

682
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,840
Bitcoin off exchanges and and I 
don't know, I mean he got rugged

683
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,080
with FTX. 
Maybe he needs one or two more 

684
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,360
ruggings in him before you know,
he's fucking hardcore out there 

685
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,240
with the hoodie just being like 
self custody. 

686
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,880
KYC is the real enemy. 
Fuck these people. 

687
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,640
But you know, he's not quite 
there in his Bitcoin journey. 

688
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Absolutely, I mean bro, self 
custody. 

689
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,360
Self custody is not your 
Bitcoin. 

690
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,880
I got the hoodie on everything. 
Mateo, do you have some thoughts

691
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960
on this? 
Yeah, hold on, Hold on a second.

692
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,240
Yeah. 
Mateo is a shadowy super coder. 

693
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,640
There we go. 
Boom. 

694
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,640
So, yeah, I mean, Surf Castle is
the way to go. 

695
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,120
I know it's a little tricky, but
you got to learn. 

696
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,320
Because if you if you keep it on
exchange, it's not your money. 

697
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,960
So eventually they might get 
hacked, they might get seized by

698
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
the government. 
You know what's funny? 

699
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:34,400
I always wanted to talk to 
Sailor about his idea that the 

700
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000
US government should own like 
20% of the coins, like a lot of 

701
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560
coins. 
And, and he doesn't own, you 

702
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,960
know, he doesn't hold his own 
coins, his own coins, his 

703
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Microsoft coins are on Coinbase,
which is really the US 

704
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,560
government and so on and so 
forth. 

705
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:55,600
And I always said a fear that 
people are so worried about 

706
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,000
minors centralization, which to 
me is like the least of the of 

707
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,280
the issue. 
But in reality the real issue 

708
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
the way I see Bitcoin is the 
custodian central custodian 

709
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:13,240
centralization like so imagine 
if so I did the math one time I 

710
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:18,240
think in 2023 in fees they were 
paid 23,000 bitcoins, right? 

711
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Not from the rewards like fees. 
Now what happens is if I have 

712
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,720
1,000,000 bitcoins, I can pretty
much spam the chain for one 

713
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:29,400
year. 
Why? 

714
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,040
Cuz nobody's gonna be able to 
upbeat me and I can clog the 

715
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,600
chain and I can basically, you 
know, like shut down the Bitcoin

716
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:43,160
on chain network. 
And maybe I'm just being 

717
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,680
paranoid, but I always thought 
that's the number one threat to 

718
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Bitcoin, the custodians and not 
the miners. 

719
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400
And so, yeah, if you the more 
comments you keep on the 

720
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,880
custodians, the more this 
thread, this problem becomes 

721
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,240
bigger. 
But at the end of the day, 

722
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,000
everybody start with the 
custodians. 

723
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,000
So if you're new to Bitcoin, you
start with the custodians. 

724
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Then you look, you watch some 
YouTube like busy session is 

725
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,720
great to learn about self 
custody. 

726
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,360
And then eventually you hold 
your own keys, your own coins. 

727
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,760
So whatever happens, it doesn't 
bother you. 

728
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,280
It doesn't matter to you. 
I think that's kind of the path 

729
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,480
of most big corners. 
And so if you're new, just keep 

730
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,160
learning. 
If you've been around for a 

731
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,160
while, just. 
You get a hardware wallet, 

732
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,040
transfer some coins, do some 
testing, and then you'll flip 

733
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,120
coin. 
It's not that difficult. 

734
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,560
It's not that difficult, You 
just have to do it and get 

735
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,120
confident. 
Absolutely, 100%, yeah. 

736
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,120
I mean, I think that's the name 
of the game, right? 

737
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,440
You get comfortable with self 
custody and it just, you can 

738
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,760
never imagine yourself in a, in 
a situation where you, you're 

739
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,680
not taking custody of your keys,
right? 

740
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,280
100%. 
But I mean, it is difficult, 

741
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,160
right? 
For older generations like my 

742
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,040
parents or grandparents, right? 
The idea of self custody is just

743
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,160
like, it's so, it's so 
completely just, it's out of 

744
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,520
their comfort zone to say the 
least. 

745
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,920
Anyways, Opti, what's your take 
on? 

746
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,880
I know that you're a big fan of 
Mr. Wonderful. 

747
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,760
I know that you and Muz will 
love watching Shark Tank 

748
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,440
together and you'll you guys 
will have like Shark Tank recap 

749
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:13,520
calls and stuff. 
So Opti. 

750
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Yeah, I mean, obviously this is 
really bad advice. 

751
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Like it's simple, but like Muzz 
was saying, I think this is kind

752
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,280
of a sign of the time, 
especially someone that is the 

753
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,560
age of Mr. Wonderful. 
They're so used to just having a

754
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,760
middleman custody their assets. 
And so he's, you know, I think 

755
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,400
on the one hand, if we're being 
nice, he's, you know, and, and 

756
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,800
less cynical, this is maybe him 
trying to have some form of like

757
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,160
fiduciary responsibility of 
being like, hey, go to the 

758
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,960
accredited people and that's the
safest way to get your Bitcoin. 

759
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,800
But if you talk to a normal 
person or not a normal person, 

760
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,840
but like an average person that 
isn't a bitcoiner, that's 

761
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,400
probably going to be their go to
move is just be like, Hey, where

762
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,160
can I just buy some Bitcoin? 
And it's going to be safe 

763
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,040
because not many people are used
to self custodying their assets.

764
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,680
And This is why we always say 
that self custody is the 

765
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,720
revolution. 
Like this is the game changer 

766
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,560
about Bitcoin is that you can 
take hold of your own money here

767
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,040
and you don't have to trust the 
middleman. 

768
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,120
Remember, go read the white 
paper. 

769
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,080
It's literally the first 
sentence of the first, you know,

770
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080
the abstract and the first 
paragraph. 

771
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Like there is too much trust on 
the Internet and it is based on 

772
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,360
all of these middle men. 
And this is what Bitcoin is 

773
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,120
eliminating. 
It's eliminating the middleman 

774
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,000
and therefore you want to take 
custody of your Bitcoin. 

775
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,760
So I see where he's coming from.
Obviously, when you kind of go 

776
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,160
down the rabbit hole, I would 
suggest for a lot of people that

777
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,400
that's probably where they 
start. 

778
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,520
It's like, hey, but where can I 
buy Bitcoin and do it safely? 

779
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,320
And then once they get over that
first step of buying their 

780
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,360
Bitcoin, you're like, hey bro, 
maybe you want to take these 

781
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,720
coins off in exchange, 
considering that we've seen so 

782
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,960
many exchanges blow up. 
So I get where he's coming from.

783
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Obviously, I think this is a bad
advice to just be like, hey, buy

784
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,600
it on Coinbase and leave it 
there. 

785
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,600
You're going to be good, bro. 
And it's like, I don't know if 

786
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,840
that's true, Mr. Wonderful. 
So I would highly suggest people

787
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,360
take their Bitcoin into custody.
But I mean, I understand kind of

788
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,840
where he's coming from. 
You know, Boomer, boomer logic 

789
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,680
here. 
It's not as hardcore Bitcoin 

790
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,680
logic, but it is pretty 
interesting that that is the 

791
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,280
clip that they put out on Fox 
News at Pub key. 

792
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480
But, you know, I guess it's just
a sign of where we are right 

793
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,600
now. 
People still need to learn 

794
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,160
what's actually going on with 
Bitcoin. 

795
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,200
You know, you know what one 
thing, So we give these old 

796
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,800
people a little bit of a of a 
pass, right? 

797
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,760
Oh, they're old. 
You know, how are they going to 

798
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,880
be you at birth? 
You are expected to keep a 

799
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,240
physical Social Security card, 
this little piece of paper for 

800
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:41,120
your entire life. 
OK, So if somebody had, you 

801
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,640
know, if, if my grandfather has 
this Social Security card from, 

802
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,440
you know, 19, you know, 30, then
you know, you should be able to 

803
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,680
keep, you know, 12 words safe 
somewhere. 

804
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,200
It's, you know, so we can't be 
too easy on them, right? 

805
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640
It is complicated. 
You do need someone to show you,

806
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,120
but I mean, come on. 
Yeah, 100%. 

807
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,520
I mean, it's again too, you 
know, this is This is why you 

808
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,600
guys should watch Simply Bitcoin
instead of legacy media. 

809
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,360
Tomorrow's Bitcoin News today. 
Anyways, any final thoughts 

810
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,720
before I move on to the next 
segment? 

811
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,600
We're going to be talking, we're
going to be talking about the 

812
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,360
news and specifically an article
coming out of Bitcoin Magazine 

813
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,720
for the audio listeners titled 
South Korea dismisses 

814
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:25,720
Establishing a Strategic Bitcoin
Reserve. 

815
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,160
But that's not the signal out of
this article. 

816
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640
The signal out of this article 
is the reasons as to why they're

817
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,280
not doing is quote, failure to 
meet IMF standards for reserves.

818
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,920
I mean, we told you guys this. 
It was a shot across the bow 

819
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,600
when El Salvador was 
essentially, I mean, it seems 

820
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,880
like Buchele didn't go along 
with it, but the IMF was born 

821
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,360
was warning El Salvador saying, 
hey, listen, we're not going to 

822
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,440
give you guys that loan if you 
don't, if you if you continue to

823
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,920
acquire Bitcoin. 
Seems like El Salvador had they 

824
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520
were at a fork in the road. 
They had to decide, decide which

825
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,200
way they were going to go. 
And they said, you know what, 

826
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,520
we're going to, we're going to 
continue to acquire Bitcoin. 

827
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:08,240
But it seems like other 
countries are, are put in this, 

828
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,320
in this position, especially if 
they have loans with the IMF 

829
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,120
where they don't have a choice, 
right? 

830
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,520
Especially other countries that 
perhaps haven't even started 

831
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,360
acquiring Bitcoin, aren't even 
looking at Bitcoin. 

832
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,560
I remember back in 2021, Bukele 
and El Salvador had so much 

833
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,280
momentum. 
It was announced El Salvador 

834
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,360
made Bitcoin legal tender in 
2021. 

835
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,280
The conference in Miami at the 
time was absolutely bonkers. 

836
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,400
Everyone lost their minds. 
And then the next year, everyone

837
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,920
was anticipating that another 
country was going to fall in the

838
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,200
footsteps of of El Salvador, but
no country followed in the 

839
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,760
footsteps of El Salvador. 
And I was always like, why? 

840
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,600
That's so weird? 
Like that's so strange. 

841
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Why did that happen? 
Now we have a pretty good idea 

842
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,840
as to why it seems like the IMF 
was never a big fan. 

843
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,280
I mean, they indicated that 
since the beginning, but it 

844
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680
seems like they could have been 
the ones pulling the streams, 

845
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,120
the strings in the background. 
But I mean, it is quite 

846
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,640
interesting now that the United 
States is the the, the US 

847
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,480
government is basically saying, 
hey, we're going to acquire 

848
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,240
Bitcoin. 
So the whole dynamics of this is

849
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:08,160
really interesting and to see 
how it's going to unfold is 

850
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,720
going to be, you know, let's see
what happens. 

851
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,160
This is it's going to be it's 
going to be interesting to say 

852
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,720
the least. 
I've said that a couple times, 

853
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:18,040
but this is very interesting 
times and Muzz man is a very 

854
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480
interesting man. 
So we have to say interesting 

855
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,160
multiple times. 
Anyways, I do want to give a 

856
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,200
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Anyways guys we're going to hit 

863
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,840
the news. 
We have tons to talk about 

864
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,680
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907
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Right. 
Everybody we are. 

908
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,800
Back so I tweeted this out a 
couple or posted it's not 

909
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Twitter anymore. 
I posted this on March 4th. 

910
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,360
I said 94 countries have loans 
with the IMF. 

911
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,760
All those countries were just 
sent a message they can't buy 

912
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,000
Bitcoin. 
This is why after 2021, no other

913
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,360
countries followed El Salvador. 
Something stopped the momentum. 

914
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,280
We now have a pretty good idea 
of who was behind that. 

915
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,960
And this was my response to 
essentially almost got got half 

916
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,040
a million views. 
But this is my response to the 

917
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,400
news that was coming out where 
essentially the IMF was putting 

918
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,320
pressure on El Salvador to stop 
acquiring Bitcoin, which is 

919
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,240
absolutely absurd if you think 
about it. 

920
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,160
This is a sovereign country with
the democratically elected 

921
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,800
leader that's representing the 
El Salvadorian people. 

922
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,160
And there you have an an 
international institution 

923
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,200
basically trying to dictate to 
El Salvador what they can and 

924
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,360
cannot do with their money, 
which is absolutely ludicrous. 

925
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,760
And then they hide behind the 
fact that Bitcoin is volatile. 

926
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,800
Bitcoin has no value. 
It's, it's just bullshit. 

927
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,240
So anyhow, and I said that, you 
know, a couple weeks ago and 

928
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:35,120
then Fast forward right, March 
17th, this is the headline. 

929
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,560
South Korea dismisses 
establishing strategic Bitcoin 

930
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,360
reserve. 
Here's the headline. 

931
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,280
The Bank of Korea has dismissed 
the possibility of establishing 

932
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,240
a strategic Bitcoin reserve, 
citing concerns over price 

933
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,400
volatility and risks. 
I mean, we've heard those 

934
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,520
excuses before. 
This comes despite ongoing 

935
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,400
global discussions about using 
Bitcoin as part of foreign 

936
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,000
exchange reserves following the 
United States plans to create a 

937
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,040
reserve. 
In response to an inquiry from a

938
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000
member of the National 
Assembly's Strategy Finance 

939
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Committee, the central bank 
rejected adding Bitcoin to its 

940
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,920
reserve. 
OK officials emphasize bitcoins 

941
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,200
wild price swings as a key 
deterrent, stating the 

942
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,760
transaction cost to conserve bit
convert Bitcoin to cash could 

943
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,400
rise drastically if the market 
experiences instability. 

944
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:30,360
As of March 17th, Bitcoin trades
around 83,500, having fallen 23%

945
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,080
from its peak of 108,000 in 
January. 

946
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,080
The B OK warned that this 
extreme volatility poses 

947
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,160
significant risks to its 
reserves. 

948
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,360
The the bank also indicated that
Bitcoin fails to meet the IMF's 

949
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,080
criteria for reserve assets. 
The IMF calls for prudent 

950
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,800
management of liquidity, market 
and credit risk for reserves, 

951
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,840
standards Bitcoin does not 
currently satisfy in the eyes of

952
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,400
the be OK, I'm going to leave it
there. 

953
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Out of this entire article, this
single paragraph is the signal 

954
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,600
must man must man. 
I mean bro what what what's 

955
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,520
happening here bro? 
Like this is here as day, the 

956
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,480
IMF is just, you know, trying to
ruin bitcoins reputation in the 

957
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,120
eyes of the world. 
Do you think that the central 

958
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,760
Bank of Korea is just using that
as an excuse? 

959
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,880
I mean it's all bullshit bro. 
Like at this point, 16 years 

960
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,760
later, bitcoins the best 
performing asset of all time. 

961
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,560
Like who's buying this anymore? 
Muzz? 

962
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,440
You're muted bro. 
It's kind of disappointing what 

963
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,120
happened with El Salvador. 
I mean, I've been to El Salvador

964
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,080
four times. 
And, you know, to see them sort 

965
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,640
of roll back some of that and 
then not really have kind of the

966
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,560
clear guidance on, you know, 
he's saying one thing And 

967
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,040
whether he ends up using that 
money or continues to buy 

968
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,280
Bitcoin or not. 
You know, those companies like 

969
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Walmart, KFC, everything, they 
had to comply. 

970
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,200
They had to enable Bitcoin 
payments to do business in El 

971
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,760
Salvador. 
And they no longer really have 

972
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,040
to do that. 
So I, I think it's just a Matt, 

973
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,480
it's a temporary sort of game 
that they're playing. 

974
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,240
I, I don't think they can hold 
it back forever, especially 

975
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:27,280
with, with Trump and, you know, 
a lot of other nations coming on

976
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,240
board. 
You know, I mean, they can't 

977
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:34,040
hold it back forever, but they 
certainly, the amount of control

978
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,640
that they have over these 
countries is, is crazy that they

979
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,720
actually have that much power. 
You know, I had thought that, 

980
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,840
you know, what they had said 
was, is El Salvador was going to

981
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,560
be able to pay off the IMF with 
the Bitcoin price. 

982
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:55,120
And it was just a little, you 
know, disappointing to see. 100 

983
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,400
percent, 100%, yeah man, it was.
It's crazy how much power this 

984
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,400
institution has. 
Anyways, I do want to give a 

985
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,920
shout out to the live stream 781
of you guys watching live on X 

986
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,400
657 of you guys watching live on
YouTube. 

987
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,440
And of course, shout out to the 
Rumble audience. 

988
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,440
I believe just broke a hundred 
102 live viewers. 

989
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,440
If you guys are enjoying the 
show so far, help us break 300 

990
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,680
likes. 
We're on the verge of that. 

991
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,560
We're at 292 likes. 
I'm gonna up the target 350 

992
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,640
likes by the end of the live 
stream. 

993
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Smash that like button. 
Someone Thomas Martinez in the 

994
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,320
chat says who controls the IMF? 
I mean, that's a really good 

995
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,800
question, Matteo, what are your 
thoughts on this man? 

996
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,600
This institution, this 
international institution has so

997
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,680
much power. 
They're not elected. 

998
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,400
Like what's going on here? 
Why are they dictating? 

999
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,880
Why are they telling all these 
so-called sovereign countries 

1000
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,360
what they can and cannot do with
their money? 

1001
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,680
That doesn't sound like 
democracy to me Mateo. 

1002
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:56,120
What are your thoughts? 
You know, the crazy part is that

1003
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,200
North Korea has more become the 
South Korea. 

1004
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,280
Like maybe, you know, maybe the 
path forward is to be a 

1005
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,520
dictatorship. 
I don't know, I thought that's 

1006
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,040
the real Bitcoin strategic 
reserve now, Jokina said. 

1007
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,160
I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, 
it's, it's crazy like how much 

1008
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,280
power these, you know, these, 
these institutions have. 

1009
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,120
But I mean, it's not surprising 
anything for us Bitcoiners. 

1010
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,880
We always knew, you know, the, 
the system has too much power, 

1011
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,280
which, you know, in at the end 
of the day, that's why we are 

1012
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,720
into Bitcoin, right? 
Because with Bitcoin, we don't 

1013
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:34,920
have to fight that power. 
We can just completely like step

1014
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,280
out of that system and don't 
have to worry about them. 

1015
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,760
But you know, for most people in
the world, they still haven't 

1016
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,880
figured this out. 
And so they still listen to the 

1017
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,240
IMF and the World Bank and, you 
know, the, you know, NATO and UN

1018
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:54,640
and, you know, the all this kind
of unelected bureaucracy that 

1019
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,400
yeah, they're all empowerment. 
I think everybody gets become 

1020
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,360
the price that we serve and that
includes nation states, right 

1021
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,440
and some people get it sooner, 
like the US finally got it like 

1022
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,520
after 15 years, 16 years, some 
of them got it like five years 

1023
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,520
ago. 
My home country of Italy 

1024
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,720
probably never gonna get it. 
So you know it's what's 

1025
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:20,960
interesting. 
You know what's interesting. 

1026
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,920
I was thinking that a day like, 
so Bitcoin is a tool for 

1027
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,240
freedom, right? 
And and so you should expect 

1028
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:35,360
that the countries that to have 
more freedom principles, like 

1029
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,360
freedom, the best are going to 
be the first to adopt it. 

1030
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,080
And so the US being like one of 
the, I mean, the biggest country

1031
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,320
in the world and the first big 
countries without the Bitcoin, 

1032
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,120
it actually makes perfect sense 
because it's very pro freedom. 

1033
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,560
And if you're pro freedom, 
you're going to adopt freedom 

1034
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,560
technology faster than if you're
anti freedom. 

1035
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,360
Now, I don't know anything about
South Korea. 

1036
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,880
I probably know more about North
Korea than South Korea, so I 

1037
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,360
don't know how how much they 
like freedom, but you know, it's

1038
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,120
they're going to get 100. 
Percent. 

1039
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,040
Also, two guys. 
Mateo, I heard a rumor that the 

1040
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,080
orange palap is where Opti and 
Augustin Carson's met. 

1041
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,680
Is that true? 
It's it's not. 

1042
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,440
A dating at me because so stop. 
Well, somebody got married, 

1043
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,000
someone got. 
Married. 

1044
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,120
Oh my God. 
Wait, can you tell us a little 

1045
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:35,880
bit about that? 
So I mean, yeah, somebody got 

1046
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,000
married and he wasn't a man with
a man. 

1047
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,680
We have no problem with with 
with any type of of of of 

1048
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,160
flavor. 
But yeah. 

1049
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,040
Yeah, I know it was. 
It wasn't like a traditional 

1050
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,480
marriage, men and women. 
And yeah, I mean, the guy was 

1051
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,320
like, man, I owe you. 
I find my girlfriend to this up 

1052
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,520
and my wife and you know, she's 
I didn't get invited. 

1053
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,320
Honestly, I got a little 
disappointed because they didn't

1054
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,400
invite me to the wedding. 
I already got my tuxedo. 

1055
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,040
I already got everything ready 
to go. 

1056
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,160
But yeah, there's a yeah, it's 
not look, it's not easy enough, 

1057
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,280
but it's a social network. 
And when people get together, 

1058
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,480
you know, sometimes they fall in
love, right? 

1059
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,520
And so that's. 
What happens it's, I mean, 

1060
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,840
that's absolutely magical. 
I know Mateo stayed at my house.

1061
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,040
He stayed on my couch through 
the orange palop. 

1062
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,880
You definitely make connections 
like you've never done before. 

1063
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,120
I was waiting for this moment, 
Nika. 

1064
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,240
I was wondering when is? 
And this is this is Augustin 

1065
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,840
Carson's and this is, this is 
who Opti met, right Opti. 

1066
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Help T you don't put him on the 
couch. 

1067
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,520
He is the couch. 
He is the. 

1068
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:56,600
Couch oh man oh man this is odd 
jokes this is odd jokes anyways 

1069
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,960
guys we got. 
Speaking of Speaking of couch, 

1070
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:05,240
do you know that I know it's a 
joke now, but there's a is a 

1071
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,640
story in your Did you watch 
documentary about the Julian and

1072
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,360
Isabel did the orange BLOB and 
then there was a woman that just

1073
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,400
sign up on orange BLOB and then 
Julian and his. 

1074
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,920
Oh, I heard about that. 
Yeah, I heard about that. 

1075
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,320
And then ended up on the couch 
of this lady. 

1076
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,960
And I'm like, I'm like, this is 
like a traditional if you sign 

1077
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,160
up for Orange BLOB, maybe we 
should ask when you sign up if 

1078
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,840
you have a free couch. 
It's part of the culture. 

1079
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,640
It's part of the culture. 
I, I, I, yeah, I mean, and you 

1080
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,160
could have it in your, you could
have it in your profile, right? 

1081
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,680
And it could be like kind of 
cryptic, like if you know, you 

1082
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,320
know, if you don't know, you 
don't know, right? 

1083
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,080
So anyways, guys, it's going to 
be a great, great show. 

1084
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,120
We still have the culture 
segment left and we're going to 

1085
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,920
talk about Thunder Funder. 
We're going to talk about Orange

1086
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,960
Palap. 
And we got the two protagonists 

1087
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,640
of Thunder Thunder and the 
Orange Palap, Mateo and Muzman 

1088
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,840
in the house. 
So I want to give a shout out to

1089
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,280
the live stream 1440 of you guys
watching live between YouTube 

1090
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,240
and X. 
And almost 100 of you guys 

1091
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,400
watching live on Rumble, make 
sure to smash that like button. 

1092
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,840
We blew past our goal of 300 
likes. 

1093
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,360
We're at 310 likes. 
Help us break 350 likes by the 

1094
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,800
time the end the show ends. 
Anyways, Opti, do you have any 

1095
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:25,200
thoughts on this, the IMF, on 
Mateo, on Muzman before we move 

1096
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,480
on to the culture segment? 
Well, oh. 

1097
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Wait, you just, you just got 
called out? 

1098
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,120
By the way, Mateo called me out 
on this as well. 

1099
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,680
Sat wise in the chat. 
Opti blew me off on the orange 

1100
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,000
plat. 
Matteo, you tell? 

1101
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,400
Could you tell Opti Live what 
you told me in front of 

1102
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:50,320
everybody? 
I, I mean, it's, we're, we love 

1103
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:55,560
simply Bitcoin, all the money 
that we make with this coin to 

1104
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,480
the sponsorship program. 
OK, OK, the least. 

1105
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:08,080
The least you can do opti. 
OK, OK, look, clearing, clearing

1106
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,400
up the dirt here. 
I responded to everyone that DM 

1107
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,280
me last week, so I turned my 
notifications on. 

1108
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,720
I'm really notoriously bad at 
responding to my DMS. I 

1109
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,520
responded to everyone. 
So it took a while, but I 

1110
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,600
responded to you guys. 
OK, so I'm I'm there. 

1111
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,480
I'm locked in. 
I'll respond to everyone 

1112
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,400
probably weekly. 
I'll do my best, but I responded

1113
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,960
to everyone. 
Nicole, we should make a new 

1114
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,960
deal. 
Let's do it. 

1115
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,880
We should make a new deal. 
The less up to replies, the 

1116
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,360
lower. 
Simply bitcoins going to go 

1117
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:51,840
broke up to you I'm. 
Replying I replied OK, I'm 

1118
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,200
replying I'm replying. 
So I I've been I've been logging

1119
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,680
in. 
I responded to everyone. 

1120
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,040
It was like 100 plus messages. 
Again, I apologies for the 

1121
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,720
delay, but I'm I'm responding to
the messages. 

1122
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,360
Absolutely. 
IMF, IMF. 

1123
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,160
El Salvador, what's your take? 
OK, all right, well, first of 

1124
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,240
all, Matteo stole my joke 
because I was going to say the 

1125
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,880
same thing. 
It looks like their neighbors in

1126
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,040
the north are the real Bitcoin 
Maxis here. 

1127
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,280
They're they have a strategic 
Bitcoin reserve and they seem to

1128
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,200
have good OPSEC. 
So, you know, South Korea is is 

1129
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,960
absolutely wrecked and 
devastated. 

1130
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,720
And we've been talking about 
this on the show for a long 

1131
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,840
time, that it is very 
interesting why no one followed 

1132
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,480
the El Salvador playbook. 
But obviously, in hindsight, we 

1133
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,240
know why the IMF has been 
pressuring everyone and they 

1134
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,960
don't like Bitcoin. 
And it's not, it's not or it's 

1135
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,800
super obvious why they don't 
like Bitcoin. 

1136
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,120
We talk about it every single 
day. 

1137
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,560
So, you know, it is 
disappointing to see South Korea

1138
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,520
do this, but you know, they're 
going to have fun staying poor. 

1139
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,280
And maybe maybe their neighbors 
to the north are going to be the

1140
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,680
real rich ones because they have
a strategic Bitcoin reserve. 

1141
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,480
Many people don't know, but Kim 
is definitely a Bitcoin maxi if 

1142
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,400
you understand. 
He he actually runs a very 

1143
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:10,480
successful meet up. 
Oh my, I want to go to that one.

1144
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,360
Anyways, the breaking news of 
today's news segment is that 

1145
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,920
Opti will reply to you on Orange
Palab. 

1146
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,560
That is the breaking news. 
Every week, Opti will spend an 

1147
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,400
hour going through messages, 
hitting back all his fans and 

1148
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,520
hanging out in the simply 
Bitcoin group. 

1149
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,040
You guys could ask Opti any 
question to like and he'll be on

1150
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,760
the he'll be on the orange pill 
app and. 

1151
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,920
Wait, how do I find the? 
How do I find the Simply Bitcoin

1152
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,520
group on orange pill app? 
I need to get up in there. 

1153
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,960
It's hidden. 
It's hidden. 

1154
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,400
You got a search for it right 
Mateo are. 

1155
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,160
You going public groups at Mars,
the last stop and the there's 

1156
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:58,880
like 1000 public we got. 406 
people in the simply Bitcoin 

1157
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,080
group chat. 
Opti's going to be responding 

1158
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,760
every single day. 
You guys definitely don't. 

1159
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,920
I can't do every day. 
I'll respond every week. 

1160
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:15,400
You got wow, just moving the 
goal posts in front of Mateo has

1161
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,480
no business acumen whatsoever. 
Guys respond. 

1162
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Join the Simply Bitcoin group 
chat. 

1163
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,400
There's 406 people in there. 
It's a party. 

1164
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,800
I jump in there at least a 
couple times a week. 

1165
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,000
It's a great time. 
You could send me a message as 

1166
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,280
well and make sure to get back 
to every single one of you guys.

1167
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,440
Anyways, guys, stay tuned for 
the culture segment. 

1168
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,000
We're going to do a deep dive on
Thunder Thunder and the Orange 

1169
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,680
Pearl app. 
We'll be right back. 

1170
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,960
I want to give a shout out to 
our partner Hive Digital 

1171
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:51,240
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1172
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,560
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1173
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:59,880
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01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,600
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1175
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,960
They consistently topped the 
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1177
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,840
They're leaning me, they're 
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01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,480
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You can catch the latest buzz by

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,320
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01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:36,600
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I want to give a shout out to 

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All right, ladies and gentlemen,

1199
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,720
we are back. 
We got a super chat from the 

1200
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,640
Muzz Man himself. 
Appreciate the $20 Muzz Man. 

1201
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:56,520
Anyways, guys, we're going to do
a deep dive into what these fine

1202
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,800
gentlemen are working on during 
the culture segment. 

1203
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,640
We got Mateo, founder and CEO of
the Orange Palap in the house. 

1204
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,080
And of course, we got Muzman, 
founder and CEO of Thunder 

1205
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,360
Thunder, Lightning Ventures, all
of that good stuff. 

1206
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,480
We're going to start off with 
the Orange Palap Opti. 

1207
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,040
I'm going to hand it off to you,
my friend. 

1208
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,280
Yeah, well, let's, yeah, let's 
start with the Orange pup. 

1209
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,960
So Mateo, let's talk about it. 
You were talking about it 

1210
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,720
earlier. 
You guys just launched the 

1211
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,200
orange pill app wallet. 
So absolutely incredible. 

1212
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,760
Plug it for the audience that if
they're not familiar with it. 

1213
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,360
Yeah, so the orange flap is it's
kind of like a couch surfing for

1214
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,200
big corners. 
And you can find people with 

1215
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,640
couches all over the world and 
you can talk to them. 

1216
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,000
I'll just just kidding. 
It's, it's, it's basically, you 

1217
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,400
know, the, the reason. 
So I can tell you the short 

1218
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,160
story why I built this up. 
I went to Miami in 2021 and I 

1219
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,080
didn't know anybody. 
Literally I didn't know anybody.

1220
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,240
It was my first conference. 
And before that I was like a 

1221
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,600
Bitcoin, you know, rabbit hole, 
like listening to all the 

1222
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,760
podcasts, all the books. 
And then I was like, yeah, let's

1223
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,560
go find some Bitcoiners. 
So I went to Miami, which is 

1224
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,800
where, you know, Buchelli 
announced or the, the Bitcoin in

1225
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,800
El Salvador. 
Anyway, so I met Vikons for the 

1226
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,760
first time and it was a great 
experience. 

1227
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,479
Then I came back to LA, which is
where I live, and I said let's 

1228
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,399
go to a meet up, let's find big 
corners where I live, right? 

1229
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,960
And I went to this meet up. 
It was like October 2021 and I 

1230
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,240
kid you not, like half of the 
people were like Ethereum NFT. 

1231
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,600
So on my way back home, as I was
young, I was like, how do I find

1232
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,760
big corners in my, you know, in 
my local area? 

1233
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,560
Like there's kind of, I 
literally did the math in my 

1234
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,920
head, you know, like if there's 
0.1% of big corners in the 

1235
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,960
United States, I should be able 
to find 10 or 20 or at least 

1236
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,600
three and there. 
But there wasn't a way, right? 

1237
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,000
Cuz on Twitter you can't, you 
know, you don't see where you 

1238
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,880
are. 
And so eventually I realized, 

1239
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,520
OK, I should build a solution to
this. 

1240
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,880
Hopefully it's not just me with 
this problem of like, you know, 

1241
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,000
like at the Bitcoin is kind of 
like a hero journey, like your 

1242
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,439
normal life, everything is like,
you know, normal. 

1243
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,000
And then you find out about 
Bitcoin and then you kind of 

1244
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,399
like go down to the like, to the
like a dark side where 

1245
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:21,640
everything is like, it's like, 
you know, everything is like a 

1246
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,240
conspiracy theory and like 
everything is wrong with the 

1247
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,800
world. 
You know, the, you learn about 

1248
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,399
money printing and the Fed and 
all that kind of stuff. 

1249
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,840
And then your friends don't want
to talk to you about Bitcoin 

1250
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,200
because they're still in normal.
And in fact, then it's not that 

1251
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,120
they don't want to talk to you. 
They think you're crazy or 

1252
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,240
you're in a cold or, you know, 
you're kind of like losing your 

1253
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,200
mind. 
And so if you know, it's so then

1254
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,359
then you become a little lonely.
You know, it's it's which I 

1255
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:49,560
think is why we spend so much 
time on Twitter and all store 

1256
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,720
and all the podcast because, you
know, we get lonely. 

1257
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,640
And so orange flap is the 
solution to that problem of like

1258
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,360
being a big corner. 
It's a lonely journey. 

1259
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,880
But then, you know, so then I 
launched the app. 

1260
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,320
Actually, I launched you out 
literally like FTXI, remember, 

1261
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,240
blew up on a Friday. 
We launch on a Wednesday after 

1262
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,000
literally at the bottom of the 
mark, which was a great time to 

1263
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,680
launch this app actually. 
But yeah, so we launch this app,

1264
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,760
you know, it's a location based 
social network, so you'll find 

1265
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,760
big corners nearby. 
Of course, we don't deliver 

1266
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,720
pizza, so we don't use precise 
location. 

1267
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,480
We use approximate location, 
which is 10 miles. 

1268
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:36,080
And more importantly, we don't 
do KYC, so you can be anonymous 

1269
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,720
as you like. 
We don't do ads, so we don't 

1270
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,680
really care about you or your 
data. 

1271
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,880
So we don't sell your data. 
We don't track your data. 

1272
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,880
And so it's very private. 
And yeah, the goal is to find 

1273
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,360
local big corners, meet them, 
have fun. 

1274
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,320
You know, like I go to meet ups 
that are actually free of big 

1275
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,560
corners, not like the fake one 
that I went. 

1276
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,320
And and now because of the 
election and Trump, we finally 

1277
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,240
launched a wallet, which is 
lighting only it's super fast. 

1278
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,640
You can ZAP users. 
Yeah, there you go. 

1279
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,120
So it's you can ZAP user 
username. 

1280
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:14,200
We just launched mass zapping. 
And the other day, guys, I kid 

1281
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:19,280
you not, we did half of all 
lighting network transactions. 

1282
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,760
That's crazy. 
Which I was shocked we did 

1283
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:29,000
100,000 transaction in one day. 
And so we launch this thing 

1284
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,400
called Math ZAP. 
And so there are group chats in 

1285
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,320
our orange lab. 
And now you can just click on 

1286
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,200
the bolt icon and you can ZAP 
everybody in the group chat and 

1287
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,120
you can add a little message. 
So it's it's kind of a way to 

1288
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,520
get attention of other people. 
It's actually the, you know, one

1289
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,360
of the best way. 
And yeah, so now we have this 

1290
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:49,840
wallet. 
We're going to launch something 

1291
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,080
special. 
I guess we can announce here 

1292
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,920
we're going to launch Geo 
Zapping, which is you're going 

1293
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,480
to be able to tap a city, let's 
say Miami, and then ZAP 

1294
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,400
everybody that is in that city. 
And so actually somebody just 

1295
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,640
told me that a great use case. 
So you guys remember the 

1296
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:17,840
Canadian truck process right? 
Now imagine if Geo zapping 

1297
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,240
existed back then. 
You could just type the cities 

1298
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:26,040
where all the truckers are and 
ZAP them, although like from all

1299
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,360
over the world, you can just ZAP
people in all anonymous by the 

1300
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,200
way, because we don't do KYC, so
there's no trace of that. 

1301
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,880
So we're launching Joe's app in 
this week and maybe tomorrow. 

1302
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,760
And yeah, so it's, you know, 
it's so we have a wallet, it's 

1303
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,880
a, it's a social network. 
And then later this year, we're 

1304
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,600
launching a ticketing platform 
for the events. 

1305
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,680
Very, very cool. 
Yeah, big fan. 

1306
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,280
Big fan of it. 
By the way, the Simply Bitcoin 

1307
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,200
group chat is popping off right 
now. 

1308
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,280
I'm going to read the last 
couple of message. 

1309
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,880
James says say hey Opti. 
Satoshi says hey Opti. 

1310
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,240
Chef Tommy says just checking in
to make sure Opti holds his end 

1311
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,280
of the bargain. 
James says watching the show No 

1312
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,200
Alaska Mama says hey Opti. 
Chef Tommy says Opti and Niko 

1313
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,440
let's do a meet up and I'll cook
hella steak. 

1314
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,680
So Opti is going to take a 
moment and join the simply 

1315
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:26,120
Bitcoin group chat and respond 
to all his friends and and and 

1316
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,920
fans. 
Anyways, yeah, this is a really 

1317
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,200
cool app. 
I've been using it for years 

1318
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:34,560
just watching Matteo develop. 
This has been absolutely 

1319
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,200
awesome. 
Opti is on the Orange Bull app 

1320
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,720
right now. 
Send him a, send him a question.

1321
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,880
He will answer it live on air. 
And yeah, it's been a great it's

1322
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,240
it's been a great experience 
I've had just using the app. 

1323
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,600
And one of the things, one of 
the highlights that I remember 

1324
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,320
again, was I didn't even know 
Mateo at the time. 

1325
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,040
And he was in Miami and he 
needed a place to stay. 

1326
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,560
And I was like, dude, I have a 
couch. 

1327
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,920
And, you know, he, I, he came at
midnight and my wife was a 

1328
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,120
little bit scared and I couldn't
see him in the hallway because 

1329
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,920
the light was off. 
So I just saw a very tall 

1330
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,680
Italian man. 
And he said, hi, I'm Mateo. 

1331
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,480
And I'm like, hey, I'm Nico. 
And I gave him, you know, a like

1332
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:21,720
a blanket. 
And I showed him the couch. 

1333
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,880
And in the morning, I woke up 
and I was like, I'm going to 

1334
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,920
have breakfast with Mateo, but 
he wasn't there. 

1335
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,800
He was just gone. 
He was mysteriously gone. 

1336
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,760
And I figured out that Brian De 
Mint picked him up. 

1337
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,040
And it wasn't until like, at 
least a couple months that I 

1338
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,880
actually saw Mateo's face. 
I didn't know what he looked 

1339
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,760
like the longest time, but I 
knew his name. 

1340
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:47,080
But those are the only type of 
like special type of, you know, 

1341
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,320
a special type of events that 
you'll find in the orange pull 

1342
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,760
up. 
You won't find any altcoiners on

1343
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,440
there. 
It's it's a, it's a Bitcoin 

1344
01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:58,000
community. 
It's very lively. 

1345
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,840
It's very awesome. 
And you'll run into those types 

1346
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,360
of things, whether you know, 
it's just connecting with 

1347
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,880
people, right? 
You know, this is a movement. 

1348
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,240
The Bitcoin community is very 
special. 

1349
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,560
What Mateo was saying is, is 
very true. 

1350
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,280
Sometimes it's lonely to be a 
Bitcoiner. 

1351
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:17,480
It's hard to connect with people
that share your your worldview. 

1352
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,560
There's there's not that many 
bitcoiners worldwide. 

1353
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,560
So the orange pull app makes it 
easy to find those Bitcoin 

1354
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,160
communities in those cities all 
over the world. 

1355
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,200
So it's a really, really cool 
resource. 

1356
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,640
Been recommending it for years. 
It's absolutely awesome. 

1357
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,040
Go to orangepullapp.com to get 
started. 

1358
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,520
Whine of kisses in the chat. 
Chat shadowy couch sleeper. 

1359
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,600
Something that Winekus does 
very, very well. 

1360
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,960
But yeah, I'm going to, I'm 
going to pass it on to Opti. 

1361
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,520
Opti. 
I mean, you got to, you got to 

1362
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,360
get on the orange palapa. 
I don't know what's happening 

1363
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,520
here. 
Well, first of all, I'm on it 

1364
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,800
and I'm responding, so, you 
know, get off my back here. 

1365
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,080
I just responded to the last 
three messages. 

1366
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,840
All right, so like, let's change
the subject here because we're 

1367
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,560
here to talk about Mateo. 
Let's plug the lightning torch 

1368
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,080
before we go into why Muzz is 
here. 

1369
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,040
Yeah, so too. 
So when the Lighting Network 

1370
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,920
started back in 2017, there was 
this thing called the lighting 

1371
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,880
torch where people would just 
pass the torch to each other 

1372
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,240
like Jack Dorsey and Amanda Dell
and other people like other 

1373
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,440
influencing the Bitcoin and then
to raise funds for Bitcoin or 

1374
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,800
core developers. 
And so we thought, why don't we 

1375
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,160
do the same thing in Orange 
Velocity. 

1376
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,920
So we launched the wallet 
literally a month ago, actually,

1377
01:16:36,440 --> 01:16:41,240
and we've been passing this 
torch around to Orange members. 

1378
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,960
I think now we're like half a 
million SAT's, so we're almost 

1379
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,840
there. 
So once we get to a million 

1380
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,200
SAT's, we'll give it to open 
SAT's account. 

1381
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,400
And yeah, so if you want the 
torch, DM me or actually, sorry,

1382
01:16:53,400 --> 01:17:01,120
DM Opti, you press Secretary A. 
100% Opti is going to be on the 

1383
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:06,160
app today all day, answering 
every question, every message 

1384
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,520
that you might get. 
So message Opti directly and if 

1385
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,000
if you don't just tag me on the 
simply Bitcoin group and I will 

1386
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,120
make sure to call Opti and get 
him on the app anyways. 

1387
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,320
We also have the one, the only 
must man in the house. 

1388
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,080
Muzz is the CEO and and founder 
of Lightning Ventures and 

1389
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Thunder Funder and the Orange 
blab is now crowdfunding on 

1390
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,120
Thunder Funder. 
I'm going to pass the baton to 

1391
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,480
Muzzman Muzman. 
What does that mean? 

1392
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,840
What does that mean? 
And that's interim CEO of 

1393
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,680
Thunder Funder. 
I think we have a new CEO that's

1394
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,440
going to be announced very soon 
that I'm excited about. 

1395
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,320
What does that mean? 
Well, Thunder Funder is a 

1396
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,440
crowdfunding platform, not like 
Kickstarter and Indiegogo and 

1397
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:59,560
those sort of things, but it's 
equity, equity crowdfunding 

1398
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,880
where you can actually invest 
into early stage companies. 

1399
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:08,240
That's the regulation 
crowdfunding portal that we have

1400
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,760
here. 
And of course, we're focused on 

1401
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,560
Bitcoin and open source 
companies. 

1402
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,840
And the Orange Pill app is live 
on Thunder Funder right now. 

1403
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:22,120
So with a very low minimum, you 
can actually invest on what 

1404
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:27,480
would be likely very similar, if
not the same terms as the fancy 

1405
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:31,320
VCs and the suits. 
That's kind of the power of 

1406
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:36,160
democratizing access to these 
really cool early stage 

1407
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,160
companies and that's what we're 
all about. 

1408
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,880
On Thunder Funder, we have 
another deal for Jolts. 

1409
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:46,840
Jolts just had some big news 
because Tether will be issuing 

1410
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,880
USD T on Lightning. 
Jolts is leading with Taproot 

1411
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,680
assets and of course Orange Pill
app. 

1412
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:59,680
Those are our two first 
offerings on Thunder Funder, so 

1413
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:04,440
you can join it's free, you can 
sign up, it's very early, you 

1414
01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:07,280
can send messages, you can 
discover other people on the 

1415
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,600
platform. 
We got a million things that we 

1416
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:15,360
want to do to really make it 
more engaged as far as a 

1417
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,880
community goes regular, lots of 
fun stuff, but it's early, 

1418
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,280
right? 
And we want your feedback. 

1419
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,680
So whatever you come up with, we
will build, right? 

1420
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,240
And it's screaming for a mobile 
app too, which is something. 

1421
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,840
But you can connect with really 
cool people. 

1422
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:34,560
We actually have an orange pill 
app badge that's built into 

1423
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:40,600
Thunder Funder where you plug in
your orange pill app profile on 

1424
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,840
your Thunder Funder investing 
profile. 

1425
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,560
You'll get a little orange pill 
app badge and then people can 

1426
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,480
click on you and move the 
conversation right there into 

1427
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:53,000
the orange pill app. 
So we love Mateo, we love 

1428
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,520
everything that he's doing and 
that is the investment 

1429
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:58,920
opportunity that we have right 
now. 

1430
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,160
Very very cool. 
So to find out more information 

1431
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,000
guys you can go to Thunder 
funder dot dot com. 

1432
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,320
Also breaking news, Opti will be
the new CEO of Thunder Funder. 

1433
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:16,200
That is a joke is it must? 
Well, if you know if if you do 

1434
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,960
want to apply, we took the job 
posted down from from Bitcoin or

1435
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,400
jobs. 
But if you are interested, 

1436
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:27,000
please reach out ASAP because we
are looking for somebody really 

1437
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,360
cool. 
Opti Opti all first step is 

1438
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,280
answer messages. 
Answer messages. 

1439
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,360
You're one step closer to being 
the CEO of Thunder Funder. 

1440
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,560
Opti, could you Scroll down 
please? 

1441
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:43,440
Let's look at some of these the 
the deal terms we valuation 

1442
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,520
funding goal the min the Max 
type of security crowd safe. 

1443
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,440
Let's take a look let's take a 
look at some of these 

1444
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:55,800
highlights. 
So 15,000 paid members, 472,000 

1445
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:04,280
dollars, 472 K yearly revenue, 
59 K downloads, 4.8 rating on 

1446
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:10,000
the App Store, 3.6 BTC and 
treasury and the 1,000,000 plus 

1447
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,160
messages. 
Very very cool and you guys 

1448
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,720
could invest in the orange palap
today. 

1449
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:17,960
Just head over to Thunder 
funder. 

1450
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,720
Now I have a couple questions 
for you. 

1451
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,920
The chats already saying Opti 
for CEO Muzz, you might have put

1452
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,520
yourself in a in a situation, 
but a couple questions for you 

1453
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,000
Muzz man. 
So can anyone invest because we 

1454
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:37,200
you know, we've heard this 1000 
times like the the you know, if 

1455
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,040
you're not an accredited 
investor etcetera, etcetera. 

1456
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,080
You know, is there any type of 
barrier to entry on this? 

1457
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,880
Really, there isn't. 
And that's kind of the cool 

1458
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,480
thing about crowdfunding or 
equity crowdfunding is that 

1459
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,160
nearly anyone can invest. 
And you don't have to be located

1460
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,640
in the USI don't think you can 
invest if you're in North Korea.

1461
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:03,040
You know, there's a few 
sanctioned places that you you 

1462
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,200
can't invest, but for the most 
part, anyone can invest. 

1463
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:09,680
And it's really a low minimum. 
So for people who, you know, 

1464
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,200
want to get started with 
learning about Angel investing 

1465
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,800
and you know, investing in 
companies, but this is not free,

1466
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,880
right? 
Like geyser. 

1467
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:23,520
This is not like geyser. 
You're not donating money to to 

1468
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,720
the orange pill app because it's
it's a worthwhile cause and you 

1469
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,040
want to support it. 
You actually are an investor. 

1470
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,800
You actually have an instrument 
here. 

1471
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,920
They call it a crowd safe. 
It's basically a safe with a 

1472
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,600
with a couple of small 
differences from what you would 

1473
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,320
have as a standard safe, but you
are an investor. 

1474
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:44,600
So when you see Mateo at the 
Bitcoin conferences or when 

1475
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,960
you're using his product, you 
are an investor and you know, it

1476
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:54,560
kind of helps you solidify your 
bond with your users, your 

1477
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,120
customers, right, Because they 
love you so much that they are 

1478
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,000
going to invest in your company 
too. 

1479
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,360
You know, Sub Stack just did a 
really big one, you know, 

1480
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,920
because everyone loves Sub Stack
and people, it gives them an 

1481
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:12,760
opportunity to invest. 
So Mateo has a very captive 

1482
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,920
lively audience within the 
Orange pill app and a lot of 

1483
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,200
those people are coming out and 
investing and supporting in him.

1484
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,520
And you know, Mateo also has a 
nice Bitcoin treasury there too,

1485
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:29,960
as well as it's it's a 
profitable business, which is 

1486
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,280
really cool. 
And you know, we have to put 

1487
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,360
everything on that deal page as 
we are just putting the 

1488
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,280
information out. 
OK, the rules with FINRA is I 

1489
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,120
can't tell you how much I love 
the orange pill app or how 

1490
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,800
amazing this deal is. 
We have to just present the 

1491
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,800
facts. 
So that's why, you know, we 

1492
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,160
don't have a bunch of rocket 
ship emojis and then telling you

1493
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,720
all that stuff on the accredited
investor side, you get to you 

1494
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,880
get to really dig in with your 
feelings and you can't do that 

1495
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,440
with with Thunder Funder. 
So everything you see there is 

1496
01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:09,400
just presented. 
Those are all facts, not our 

1497
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,720
editorial content. 
Absolutely. 

1498
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,960
Very, very cool. 
So guys, head over to 

1499
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,760
thunderthunder.com today, check 
out the latest opportunities and

1500
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,880
also check out the orange pull 
up. 

1501
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:29,160
Go to orangepullup.com today, 
send Opti a message and he will 

1502
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,920
make sure to get back to every 
single one of you guys. 

1503
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,360
I do want to thank the live 
stream, 1600 live viewers 

1504
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,760
between X and YouTube and 
roughly 100 of you guys watching

1505
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,960
live on Rumble. 
If you guys enjoyed today's 

1506
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,480
show, make sure to smash that 
like button. 

1507
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:46,080
We blew past our goal of 350 
likes. 

1508
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,400
We're at 373 likes right now. 
So smash that like button. 

1509
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,400
If you guys enjoyed today's 
show, I think we got a super 

1510
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,880
chat for 499. 
Appreciate you, bro. 

1511
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,600
Thank you so much. 
But yeah, guys, I'm a seat 

1512
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:59,440
though. 
Thank you, dude. 

1513
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,240
Yeah, guys, love you all. 
Thank you guys so much for 

1514
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,600
tuning in today. 
I'm your host Nico, my Co host 

1515
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,080
Optimus Fields, our special 
guest Mateo from the orange 

1516
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,840
Palop and Muzz Man from Thunder 
Funder. 

1517
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,760
Anyways guys, love you all. 
We'll see you on the next one. 

1518
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,000
Take care everybody. 
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1519
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