Has Michael Saylor change everything and no one even
noticed? While we've all been distracted
by the Middle East and markets bleeding trillions of dollars,
one of Michael Saylor's products has been quietly buying billions
of dollars worth of Bitcoin. Could this product alone be the
catalyst that end bitcoins bear market early and leave everyone
in disbelief waiting to buy Bitcoin at lower prices?
I know that sounds crazy, but what Sailor has done with
Stretch is truly incredible. There is so much interest in the
last week it it really is almost mind blowing what we're seeing
happen. And as Sailor said in the past,
this is in his opinion the iPhone moment.
But before I get into all of the numbers, let me play you the
clip from Matt Hogan a bit wise explaining why there is so much
interest in this STRC or Stretch product from MicroStrategy.
I mean, the leading preferred is STRC, which is a really
fascinating instrument for people who don't know
corporations can have multiple different kinds of securities.
They can have bonds that are just debt instruments.
They can have convertible bonds that can convert into shares.
They can have common stock, which is just the stock that
most of us don't. And then there's this unique
streak called preferred equity. Where preferred equity sits is
it's above the common in the event that the company goes
bankrupt. So you pay off your debts and
then you distribute the proceeds first to the bondholders, then
convert holders, then preferred. But what what's really unique is
that they can pay income, they can pay distribution.
So with STRC specifically, it's paying about an 11 1/2 percent
annual yield. And then what micro strategy
does is it raises or lowers that yield in an effort to get the
keep the preferred price at $100.00.
So what we've seen even during this massive drawdown is that
the preferred stock has stayed right around $100 and the people
have been getting 11 1/2% yield and it's mostly tax free because
it's technically return of capital, they're able to offset
losses. The risk you're taking with
something like STRC is that MicroStrategy effectively is
deciding what the yield is. So they can make the yield more,
they can make the yield less. Theoretically, they could not
pay a yield at all. The, the, the reason you're
betting they won't take that last option is that it would be
a huge reputational damage to the firm.
So that's the risk you're taking.
But the benefit is you're getting like a, a, a really
hefty tax deferred yield, 11 1/2 percent is hard to come by and
they've been doing a very good job.
I suspect that that the interest in STRC and and and copycats of
that will be really significant for the next 12 months or so.
All right, guys, that last point, well, rather probably
that second to last sentence, that is the main idea right
here. 11.5% yield, annual yield is hard to come by and I think
This is why we're starting to see it pick up.
I think traditional financial investors are starting to look
at what Sailor is doing and and they're getting excited.
Maybe it's the green bug, whatever you want, but you do
not get those type of revert re returns from traditional
financial vehicles. That is why this is so
interesting. But from you, from the viewer,
from someone that might just be a Bitcoin holder, you're
probably like, why? Why is this?
Why? How could this product in and of
itself and the Bitcoin bear market?
Well, that's obviously the big speculation.
That's the big if. But when you look at the
numbers, it is absolutely insane what they've done in the last
week, which from our friends over at Bitcoin Magazine really
show just how crazy this last week has been for the Stretch
product. Sailor's strategy has bought an
estimated accumulated 9454 bitcoins so far in the last week
via just the STRC product. Just one of Sailor's product has
bought close to 10,000 Bitcoin in the last week.
Now if you connect that with what with what Matt Hogan said
he's like, I'd expect that this might continue for the next 12
months, which means there might be a whole new interest into the
stretch product. And if this amount of Bitcoin
thing happens continuously, if Sailor somehow with one product
is miraculously able to buy 10,000 Bitcoin per week and that
demand just continues to snowball and get bigger and
bigger and bigger. That is an incredible amount of
Bitcoin that is going to end up in strategy and just in one of
his products, the SDRC product. Now this number again for you
guys at home to really wrap your head around just how much
Bitcoin they bought in this last week.
Remember, 450 Bitcoin are released per day, 9454 Bitcoin.
That's about 21 days of Bitcoin buying done in a single week by
sailors. So if that continues to go on
and they're just chewing up all of this Bitcoin week by week
again, demand, supply, economics, you'd expect the
price to go up. Now to make this even crazier,
this STRC product with the amount of interest it's gotten
in the last week, they have now been able to raise enough
capital to buy another 4000 Bitcoin.
So 9 almost 10,000 this week at minimum 4000 next week.
Now you can see how the dominoes are just continuing to grow.
If this continues to go up and more people are incentivized to
use this coming from more a tradify investor because you at
home, you're probably just thinking, hey, I just want to
buy Bitcoin in spot. Totally get it.
I don't want to buy a levered Bitcoin play.
I don't want to buy a security. I want to own Bitcoin.
I mean, just do what what sailors doing, right?
Yes. But from his perspective, again,
a product market fit, he is not necessarily marking these
products for us at home. Yes, you can use this product if
you're trying to get an 11.5% annual yield, you know, tax free
and income. Like obviously there's a there's
a product market fit for us as individuals, but from a more
traditional institutional investment outlook, this is
starting to really be a game changer.
And Nico brought this up last week when we mentioned stretch
the first time, maybe it was the first time on the show.
I think we've hinted at it. It's starting to really, really,
I think turn a lot of eyes here, you know, turning a lot of heads
here. Sorry, I the optiisms on the
show. Anyways, here is the
strategy.com stretch dashboard and you can just see the amount
of interest, just the amount of money that is already been
acquired by this product. And it's their latest product.
It's relatively new and you're starting to see it's it's really
just picking up. I think it's that, well, I don't
think I know it's it said 11.5% annual yield.
That is we're starting to see a frenzy around here.
You're starting to see that people are really starting to
notice this product. Obviously we've seen around the
world institutions, hedge funds, even central banks really get
incentivized to buy MSTR, just the common stock.
Now we might be seeing a whole new incentive structure building
on top of these, you know, equities, Bitcoin stocks, what
whatever, whatever you want to call them, preferred stocks.
You're seeing it. He might have actually done what
he said he did a few years ago on I forget what stage it was.
It might have just been at the Bitcoin for corporation stage.
But he's like, I think this is the iPhone moment for Bitcoin.
It's a stretch product. And again, he is tapping into a
lot of trap liquidity a lot, a lot of different markets that
Bitcoin wasn't really looked at favorably.
It wasn't really able or capable of getting and attracting this
kind of well. And we're seeing it, it's, it's
working like he found an incredible product market fit
here. He he and he found himself like
the product here. And it is kind of interesting
when you remember how Sailor got to this point.
And I, I'm not going to, you know, be too cynical about it,
but it did seem like Sailor was just kind of throwing products
at the wall and seeing what sticks.
And some of them were really well, obviously the MSTR stock,
the Bitcoin treasury play was obviously he was ahead of the
curve on that one. They've been able to acquire
close to 1,000,000 coins. They might even be able to get
to 1,000,000 coins if this bear market continues to go sideways
for a while or even lower. If it goes lower, he's for sure
probably going to be able to get to 1,000,000 Bitcoin.
But this one, the stretch product, as Matt Hogan said, as
we're seeing from the amount of interest, as we're seeing by the
amount of Bitcoin that has been accumulated in a single week, it
really, it really seems like this one is going to be the game
changer product. Maybe you're not interested in
just buying a levered Bitcoin play by buying MSTR.
Maybe it's just preferred stock because you, you know, you just
want to 1111 1/2 annual income here tax free.
You don't really want to do anything you want to, you know,
get paid. Remember the whole idea, Bitcoin
has no yield. Why would I invest into this
thing if I'm a traditional financial investor?
Sailor, I think might have unlocked all of the capital.
This is definitely going to attract.
I don't know if this product alone the the stretch product,
but this idea is definitely going to be able to attract, you
know, trillions of dollars, whether it's spread out a bunch,
a bunch of competitors or you know, Sailor just continues to
innovate. But even if it if it's just this
product in the market and sailors able to attract this
much capital into it and he's able to buy thousands of Bitcoin
via this new flywheel that he's created.
This is why you're starting to look at this and be like, wow,
is Sailor little literally single handedly going to end the
bear market by himself. And to sailors credit, he went
out there and tweeted something very interesting and everyone on
Twitter is like, wait, what? What is he saying here?
Like what does he know? What is going on behind the
scenes? What is sailor watching?
Because yesterday he tweeted this basically right when we
went live. And I saw this earlier and I, I
didn't connect the dots with the stretch product, but it does
make you think it's like, wow, I think Sailor is literally saying
he just ended the bear market. So I'll, I'll pass it over to
Nico after I read this tweet. But Sailor yesterday tweeted,
you know, there's a delay between the time we buy Bitcoin
and the time Bitcoin goes to the moon.
You're like, yo, Sailor is really, he's really out here
kind of flexing right now. He's like like last week we
bought or this week, sorry, this week we bought 10,000 Bitcoin
just in one of my products. He's continuing to raise capital
and do the the standard flywheel Bitcoin treasury play.
Now he's got multiple vehicles of attracting Bitcoin.
There's not that much Bitcoin released daily.
It does feel like we are seeing the end of seller exhaustion.
Obviously, there's still debate, there's still speculation of
whether we'll see another, you know, leg down.
I know that's kind of the consensus right now, but if this
continues and we have seen the end of OG selling Bitcoin, the
end of Bitcoin mining, public companies selling Bitcoin, this
could get out. This could get out of out of
hand to the upside. This remember I said it the
other day, the violent repricing again sailor by himself might be
doing this exact thing. And then, of course, once the
number actually goes back up once we probably break out of
the 70 K area is when you'll you'll know for sure.
I I did talk to Luke this morning, guys.
You know our our reigning more almost more bullish friend than
me. He has been kind of bearish the
last couple of days privately. And I, I don't mean to put your
business out there, Luke, but he's like, yo, if we break out
past 84 K like it's, it's on like Donkey Kong and then me and
then I'm in the middle like, yo, you're bearish.
And Nika's like we're still going to 40K, bro.
So look what Sailor has done. I think what he will continue to
do with this product is just insane.
He if if Sailor again if sailor alone just is able to acquire
1000 close to 10s of thousands of Bitcoin into a single
product. It's just simply supply, demand,
economics. Yeah, I mean, like what's crazy
to me about all of this is and we wouldn't talking about
stretch for a while now, first of all, the the memes dropping
from the the strategy CEO are hilarious, right?
It's like, you know, the doctor recommends you get a good
stretch in the morning, you know, to to remain, to remain in
good health, you know, and stuff like that.
So the memes are just hilarious. That's the first thing I'll say.
The second thing is, you know, regarding this as the iPhone
moment, 100%. I mean, this is what got me so
excited talking about this over the last couple weeks.
But this is what you guys need to know.
Fundamentally, Sailor is betting.
It's a bet, fundamentally, that the Bitcoin price will
appreciate 20 to 30% over the next 15 to 20 years per per
year. For the next 15 to 20 years.
So there's ebbs and flows. He's he's taking out the
volatility for you. He's.
Guaranteeing you 11% interest if you're, if you're sorry, a
dividend, but it amounts to around 11% return on a yearly
basis. That completely blows any other
fixed income product out of the water.
But I I I read this post from Forrest Hoddle this morning and
he's absolutely right to point this out.
This only works if number goes up, right?
That's what it boils down to. Because if Bitcoin does not
appreciate faster than 11%, this product doesn't make sense.
If Bitcoin does appreciate faster than 11%, let's say it
appreciates out of 20% CAGAR for the next 15 to 20 years or it
appreciates out of 30% CAGAR for the next 15 to 20 years, then
this stretch product, not only is it viable, it's an iPhone
moment because the whole fixed income market, the longer this
stretch product exist, the more confidence it's going to have in
the product and the more people are going to see it as the more
people are going to see it as less risky, right?
So essentially it becomes this crazy flywheel, right, that
we're going to see. And this flywheel is
essentially, you know, they're using the proceeds from this
product to buy more Bitcoin. And as Opti pointed out, they're
buying on a daily basis just this product alone, more of the
Bitcoin supply than is being mined on a daily basis.
So I think what Sailor is aiming for and what Opti was saying in
the beginning of the show is that eventually there might be
some type of supply shock, which again sends to new highs.
If Bitcoin goes to new highs, then this stretch product can
continue, no pun intended, can continue being stretched into
the future. Right now, what is the long
term, let's say 50 year viability of this of of this
product? I don't know.
Let's get through the next five years.
But fundamentally, if Sailor is able to deliver that 11% return
for the next five years and it being fueled by the best asset
the world has ever seen, which is Bitcoin, it's going to be a
complete game changer for financial markets.
And strategy is going to be one of the most successful companies
on planet earth. And copy and Opti did mention
copycats earlier. I mean, we did see that with the
Bitcoin treasury companies early on.
But once again, strategy has this first mover advantage,
right? I wouldn't, I wouldn't even look
at any of the of of the copycats.
The other copycats are gonna have to offer higher interest on
top of the 11. We know how that game wins.
Exactly. So they're gonna have to offer
higher interest. For people to be attracted to
them, but with higher interest comes more risk, right?
And that's a that's a big bet, ladies and gentlemen, and I'll
be honest with you, I think 11 percent is conservative.
I think 15% Kaggar is conservative.
I think we get a minimum of. 20 to 25 to 3030% Kaggar moving
forward, I think if we don't get that.
You know, I, I, I would say that Bitcoin failed in in a lot of
ways, right? Because again, you know the
whole thesis, there's been so many books written about this,
there's been so many articles written about how great of an
asset Bitcoin is the. Bullish case for Bitcoin, the
Bitcoin standard by Seifidine. You know, Larry mentioned it on
on in the big print Lynn Leopard like nothing stops this train
and the the theories behind, you know, all these books and you
know, all these theories is basically like, look, if they're
going to print more money, look at the situation in the Middle
East, right? They're going to debase the
currency. If they debase the currency,
it's Infinity divided by 21 million gold.
Even though it's scarce, ultimately it's not absolutely
scarce like Bitcoin is, right? So that's really the question
right now. Is Bitcoin going to be that 11%
return that micro strategy is offering with their stretch
product? If you strategy, they're
renamed, If you believe Bitcoin is, I believe Bitcoin is, then
this is a, this is a, this is such a monumental moment for the
traditional markets because the fixed, the fixed income market
is massive. It's huge and most people in the
fixed income market are getting like let's say you get a high
yield savings account like from Amex or you know, from the other
banks that offer it, they're offering, you know, like 3 and a
half, 3.8%. Let's say you you're buying
bonds, right? It's in the four and a half
region. Let's say you're investing in
real estate. Right.
You know, on a, on a very, very good year, you're getting
between 8 to 12%. But you have to deal with
tenants, you have to deal with maintenance, you have to deal
with taxes. This is why this stretch product
is such a game changer because you're getting 11% yields.
It's tax deferred. As Opti mentioned, you don't
have to deal with tenants, you don't have to deal with
maintenance, and you're getting that type of return like in the
stock market. Just to kind of give you guys
A-frame of reference, and I'm sure of a lot of you guys know
this. If you come from the traditional
markets, a 10% return is fantastic.
If you get a 10% return on your portfolio on a yearly basis, I
know we've been spoiled here in Bitcoin land, you know that is
the best, that is a a fantastic return for the year.
So the fact that a fixed income product is basically offering
that is an ultimate game changer.
But the big question on everybody's mind and we don't
know the answer to this question yet.
We have no idea what is how this is going to end up the big
question. Is and our business depends on
this, the entire Bitcoin industry depends on number go up
technology is. Is Bitcoin going to reach that
20 to 25 to 30% kagar over the next 10 to 15 years?
That is the big question. If Bitcoin does stretch, the
stretch product is going to be a game changer.
It's going to be fueled by Bitcoin and strategies.
Strategy is going to work. If it doesn't, then this product
is is going to fail. But not only is this product
going to fail, I would say the entire Bitcoin industry doesn't
look as attractive to investors anymore.
Like if Bitcoin can't outperform the S&P 500, you know, again,
not from us ideologues that are believing in self custody and
and you know, look at Bitcoin from a sovereign sovereignty
perspective, from a a revolutionary perspective, but
from traditional investors. So, you know, if you're someone
that has a four O 1K, if you're someone that's interested in for
a a fixed income to kind of maintain your lifestyle,
etcetera, etcetera, you're not you're not going to look at you,
you're going to look at Bitcoin. You're like, yeah, that's
interesting. But like, why am I going to take
that perceived risk that they associate Bitcoin with if they
can get a much safer return, for example, with AUS treasury,
right or with a high yield savings account?
Why, why would they take that additional risk on?
Because at the end of the day, that's what you're doing when
you are buying the stretch product.
Now it is working for the time being.
But let's see, I I think the next three to four years are
going to be incredibly exciting. I'll tell you guys what I
personally believe. Of course, this is not trading
advice. This is not financial advice.
I think the, the year after the, the, the year after the blow off
top, it usually tends to be a little bit of a bearish year.
So we're in that year to right now, which is 2026.
But what I'm really looking forward to is the end of
20262027 and then 2028. Historically, the halving cycles
have not broken yet. As much as everyone kept yelling
from the rooftop, this time is different.
This time was in fact not different.
So because the the halving cycle theory is still in play, that
means that 2027 should be a fantastic year for Bitcoin, 2028
should be an incredible year for Bitcoin, and 2029 should be an
amazing year for Bitcoin as well.
Now, if you put all of what I just said together with the fact
that now traditional Wall Street has the mechanisms and the
vehicles to get exposure to Bitcoin and there's different
products to tap into, different pools of capital.
This next bull market is going to be it's going to put this
last one to shame in terms of institutional adoption and
institutional involvement in Bitcoin.
And that is what could potentially bring Bitcoin to
those new price tiers, right? Because Bitcoin is such a huge
asset right now. It's a multi trillion dollar
asset. So for you to really move the
price, you really need a lot of capital going into the asset
that and this is where the big banks, this is where Wall Street
kind of comes into play. And I get, I know I understand a
lot of you guys that get that icky feeling when you hear Wall
Street and big banks. But ultimately, ladies and
gentlemen like that is what is going to push Bitcoin to the new
price points, right? And I think that's part of the
motivation as to why, you know, some of the, some of the Ogs
felt like exiting last cycle. I think the reason that we
didn't have this euphoric phase is a lot of people that were
holding for 10-15 years, you know, they bought Bitcoin under
$100 in the $100 region or, or the below $1000 region.
You know, they're like, listen, I've made an incredible return.
This is life changing money for me.
I'm going to start going and living my life a little bit.
Doesn't mean that they've sold all their Bitcoin, but their
priorities have changed, right? Perhaps they got into Bitcoin in
their mid 20s at the time in their 30s.
If you got into Bitcoin in your early 30s and you've been
holding for 15 years, you're now 45 years old, right?
Your priorities are a little bit different.
Perhaps that militant attitude in that militant worldview that
you had when you when you were younger changed a little bit,
right? So a lot of things happen over a
15 year time scale. Like for me, looking back, holy
crap, it's been 10 years, right? It's been 10 years.
I can't even imagine what another five years in this
industry would be like. Like exactly.
That's what I'm trying to talk about.
So I I kind of empathize a lot with a lot of these O GS that
were like, look, man, like it, it's it's time to ride into the
sunset a little bit, right. So anyways, back to the stretch.
Yeah. And then?
Pass it back to Opti and I'll get off my soapbox.
I promise is dude, this is an absolute game changer.
But big butt it does require for the Bitcoin price to appreciate
at at least a 15 to 20% kagar if it doesn't appreciate at that at
that rate, then this stretch product is not going to work.
It doesn't mean that they're not going to be able to pay out the
dividends for the foreseeable future.
Strategy has a huge cash position.
They will be able to to to service those those dividend
payments. But that stretch product is
based on Sailor's thesis, which he gave this presentation at
Bitcoin 2025. He basically believes that by
2045, he thinks that minimum the price of Bitcoin is going to be
$13 million per coin. This stretch product is based on
that theory. Now, Sailor has had a very, very
good track record at predicting paradigm shifts and at
predicting innovations, right? He wrote the book The Mobile
Wave, where he predicted that the iPhone was going to
fundamentally change the world because it was going to put a
computer in everybody's hands. And he got that 100% right.
So I mean Opti, I just, I don't see how you know.
I don't see how you know the he. I'm on Sailor's.
Side in terms of what his his his theory.
Is anyways, I'm going to pass it on to you.
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Right. Ladies and gentlemen, we are
back and we have Steve joining us.
Steve is with Steve. Please correct me.
SAB Sabra defense team, is that correct?
No Sabre defense team. Sabre defense.
Team yeah, the younger generation sometimes goes what
how is that Sabre defense team is a private security contractor
and and then we also run a separate organization called
Strategic Response Partners, also knows also known as SRP,
it's a global disaster management company.
Awesome. So guys, you guys know the deal,
right? The Bitcoin is all about
sovereignty. It's all about, you know,
reclaiming back your financial sovereignty, but it's not only
about reclaiming your financial sovereignty.
You want to reclaim your sovereignty as a sovereign
individual, right? And that comes with, you know,
not relying on the grid for power, not relying on, you know,
traditional communications, but also it's thinking about home
defense, right? This is all this is.
It's all. 1. Package when it comes to this
right so Bitcoin is just one element of becoming a sovereign
individual and I'm very excited to have Steve joining us on on
the show today and again shout out to SAT 123 for the
recommendation. So Steve, please give us a
breakdown of what Saber does. It's a pretty badass name, by
the way, I might add, and I'll pull up your website while you
do that. Yeah, so Saber defense team has
provided security for some of the largest high net worth
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Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy, Charlie Kirk on certain
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He was a close friend actually had him speak a few weeks before
he passed in in Dallas at a conference called When the
Storm. And we do mission critical
stuff. So aside from executive
protection for many people that are well known people, we
provide certain mission critical stuff like heading out what we
went to Syria as far as in Haddad and Sweda where they
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We've done missions in Nigeria, in Sudan.
We were the ones that were instrumental, instructing a
bunch of Americans and VI PS out of Puerto Vallarta.
Within minutes of that happening, we had armored
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the Kornavaca at an FBO there and then flying them from that
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Hurricane Otis with SRP on the search and rescue side of it.
So we operate in over 70 countries.
But when it comes to protection, right, people go, I got a
firearm. How well are you trained?
That's like going to Guitar Center and buying a guitar
doesn't make you a musician, right?
Going through the training, being the protector of your
household. And my business partner, which I
owe a lot of credit to, is Byron Rodgers, right?
Always preaching executive protection, always talking about
being the man of peace, the protector of your family.
But we do grid down courses completely where you're building
a shelter, you're forging for food, you're processing an
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perimeters, and you're completely off the grid.
So when people talk about being off the grid, and if you haven't
done it, I highly, highly recommend it to your listeners
because it'll change your mind, it'll change your life, and
it'll raise your confidence level of going.
You know what? I could actually do this if the
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another camp, Right? I'm just telling you because
it's a fit of the survival, right?
Survivalist. Yeah.
There's a lot, lot, lot of benefit in in our training.
What makes the the guys that come out of the SF, the Special
Forces and then how we train them, how to operate in the
urban interface. So yeah.
That that's, that's fantastic. And again, the, it's so, you
know, part of, of, of, of Bitcoin culture, Steve, where
this aspect of sovereignty, right?
This, this aspect of reclaiming back your financial sovereignty.
And I think, you know, like home defense really plays.
A. A key.
Role in that, but when it comes home defense training is
everything right? This is not you know, you're not
playing with toys. These are the ultimately these
are firearms. You you need to be trained to to
to to to use them. And there's also legal
implications that I think are, are are, you know, people have
to be aware of, right? Depending on the state, there's
different laws, right, that apply to you.
But thankfully in Florida, we have stand your ground, right?
But different states have different laws for all of this.
But this, this plays a key role in my opinion.
And again, reclaiming your sovereignty as an individual.
And part of that is knowing how to how to defend yourself and
most importantly, how to defend your loved ones and your family,
right. So I, I really love what you
guys offer in terms of not only the security services for high
net worth individual bitcoiners that are looking into that over
the next, you know, 10-15 years, I believe, you know, if we are
about right about the Bitcoin price appreciation, you know,
Steve, the 2020 to 40% of the ultra high net worth individual
a class are going to be bitcoiners and they are going to
require some type of security. But fundamentally, I think also
it comes down to the individual as well, right?
So learning how to properly use a firearm is incredibly
important from a safety perspective and in both ways,
how to handle a firearm properly and how to defend yourself if
worst comes to worst. So that's really interesting.
Could you talk a little bit more about the training program?
Because what I, what I've been seeing in your website is that
it's really, really all-encompassing in terms of
what you guys offer in the training.
So I'm just going to read some of this.
I can't really say this on YouTube, but let's just say a
close quarter battle type of situation, a a, a simulator lab,
the off site training, training that emulates real conditions
for the end user to navigate and emerge better.
A realistic training environment where you can become an
efficient shooter and communicator control the
environment as you navigate real world scenarios on a reality
base simulator. So it really, really is
all-encompassing. And Steve, before you answer
that question. I really want to know what is
your. Background like how did you
start? Like what?
Made you involved in this company?
So if you, if you look at there's two companies, if you go
to srp24.com, that's strategic response partners in 89, I was
that kid that was fascinated with, you know, worldwide
disasters, right? People going down a river in a
makeshift mattress boat trying to carrying their personal
belongings. I had a bunch of my friends that
were in the fight that went into the fire service and I'm like,
well, what'd you do? We went and kicked the door and
put some water, you know, put the wet stuff on the red stuff
and then you left, right? So my stuff was disaster
response, crisis response. And then just putting together a
very comprehensive team of just the best operators.
And it's not just someone who's trained, man.
They have to be first and foremost in all things
spiritually grounded. Because that spirit, if you're
not tuned in there, you're not knowing when to zig or when to
zag, right? And I've really kind of just put
the elite team together. So that's why we represent some
of the most well known people as not just their private security,
right? And they're all in, they're all
around Bitcoin, a big that's just part of their world.
We also provide private fire. So in the LA fires, we saved a
bunch of their homes made, made it on multiple news stations
because they're who are these guys that that that stayed
behind with their fire pumps drafting from pools, protecting
all these homes for these rich and famous people.
And we've been doing that for years.
But when it comes to disaster preparedness and crisis, they
kind of go together. But they're 2 stand alone
companies. So when it comes to, I get the,
the, the beautiful thing of going into hurricanes couple
days earlier, setting up and preparing the critical
infrastructure, bring in the fuel, the temp power, the shrink
wrap crews, environmental structural engineers to be able
to make sure that that hospital, that logistics center, that they
stay online, right? But my guys are trained to be in
that area knowing there's no communication, there's no power,
there's no food, there's no water.
So we bring a city within a city, and the level of
preparedness that we have is keep it lean, keep it nimble,
and be able to have your grab and go kits.
All our stuff's in Pelican airs, right?
And we have different gear that is deployable for hurricanes,
tornado chases on the medical side of it, or if we're going
into a wildfire. So they're all very specific.
If we're going into civil unrest, what does that look
like? Civil unrest?
Call it a riot, right? Or if there's a drone strike,
for example, in California, you know, so there's a lot of talk
about a lot of things, but having the the wherewithal, the
Intel and the right partners, that makes all the difference.
And so for us, for example, we've gotten calls from
Nazareth, from Israel, right? We got calls where we evacuate
people out of Dubai into Oman to get them out of that area.
But we're working closely with the State Department because
unless you're in communication with what's going on at the
ground and you're moving people, you become part of the
casualties, not knowing that they're dropping bombs in an
area. Now you're trying to push people
through there and you're not in direct communication to
effectively and properly move people out of these areas.
So bottom line, honestly, I'm a solutions guy, 35 years, 14,000
plus numbered projects. And I just I, I TuneIn to see
where I can serve, how I can serve.
And if any of your listeners are like, hey, you know, I'm
interested in what your disaster personal disaster plan or your
grab and go supplies or they can e-mail me and I'm happy to share
with them. There's no promo stuff in there.
You know, it's just, there's no promo codes.
It's just I, I tell them basically what I know that's
very effective and what works. And then they can pick up the
stuff on Amazon or, you know, pick up the stuff where they
need. But obviously the satellite
phone store. I mean, those guys, they've been
instrumental because every time we deploy, they've always backed
us up providing, you know, mobile Starlinks, helping us set
up the Starlinks at all the command Centers for the cities,
for the municipalities, for the fire departments, for the police
departments, even in Jamaica that they were instrumental in
actually setting up comms in that island when they had no
comms. So the mayor of Montego Bay, MO
Bay, the fire department there, the, the Police Department,
Samuel, the guy, the Chief Police officer, we put their
mobile Starlinks in their vehicles on the roof and she
donated over 50,000 and just the hardware, you know, so I've
always been a big promoter of those that promote and support
us to support them. But they've done an incredible
job. They have, they have ballistic
backpacks that I have my kids take with them that have the
Kevlar stuff in it. But yeah, yeah, I mean.
The the, the, the synergy here and I'm so glad that you're
you're joining us on on the Friday show, Steve.
I love the Friday shows, this Friday, Friday show specials
because you know our audience, our core audience, Steve.
And I think that the reason there is so much synergy with
our partners at 123 is Bitcoin fundamentally makes you question
the very idea of money. And when you take self custody
of your Bitcoin, essentially what you're really doing is
you're opting out of the traditional financial system.
But with self custody comes tremendous responsibility
because you're not relying on a third party custodian, which
means you are responsible for the asset that you're holding.
And security plays a role in that, right?
Obviously, you know, as bitcoiners, there's different
levels to it, but I think the longer you remain in the
industry, Steve, the more you understand and value
sovereignty, the more you understand and value freedom
tech. Like, for example, me and me and
my partners were messing around with Jack Dorsey's app
yesterday, the Bit Chat, which is essentially this
communications app where you can talk locally via a Bluetooth
mesh net and it doesn't require a traditional cellular to to
interact with each other. And it was so easy to use,
right? So I really believe that your
company, you know, plays a role in this where Bitcoiners could
start really asking the hard questions, right?
Because this isn't just about reclaiming sovereignty over your
money. This is about reclaiming
sovereignty over yourself and depending on where you, you
know, fit on the economic spectrum, as you know, we had in
this in the next 5 to 10 years, you know, you got to really ask
yourself outlook. I'm, I'm just speaking, you
know, generically, right? Look like I'm, I'm taking self
custody of my Bitcoin. Am I really thinking about my
security situation? Am I really thinking about what
happens, you know, with, with a potential $5 wrench attack?
Am I prepared for that type of situation?
Or if you can afford it, you know, you start thinking about
it. Look like, let me start looking
into security. I mean, look at the political
violence that has happened over the last two years.
I mean, it, it, it in the United States out of all places, right?
President Trump, you know, 2, you know, attempts on his life.
And then, of course, you know, the late Charlie Kirk, what
happened was horrible. So, you know, it's better to be
prepared than be put in a situation where you say, listen,
this could never happen here. And you get caught in a
situation where you're unprepared.
You know, for for a lot of, I would say Americans in general,
I think this country, we take a lot of things for granted.
I think the political environment has changed.
So I think a lot of people are asking questions.
But for example, I'm a first generation American.
I originally came from Venezuela, right?
So, you know, a lot of the things that, you know, we take
for granted in this country isn't exactly the norm in the
rest of the world, right? And as a political environment
gets a little bit more heated, you know, these are the types of
of opportunities where you guys want to get yourself prepared,
whether that's with training, whether that's with security,
whether that's reclaiming back your, your, your communication
sovereignty. You know, SAT 123 has so many
products on their store, mobile batteries, Star links, obviously
satellite phones where again, you don't have to rely on a
centralized grid. For you to.
Communicate with your loved ones for you to send a Bitcoin
transaction. You can plug in your Bitcoin
node with the with, you know, with the Starlink that's powered
by battery backup and then that's.
And then that Bitcoin node communicate with the block.
Stream. Satellite right like there,
there there's a big rabbit hole here.
So there's a lot of synergy here.
Steve, I want to get your opinion what I I feel like you
know, Bitcoin and your your industry, it goes hand in hand.
What do you what do you think about Bitcoin?
How do you feel about it? I mean, I think it's a
necessity, right? It's a necessity along with just
diversifying, right? You could have also your, your
hard gold coins, your silver, you know, and then having stuff
that you can barter and trade with.
The best thing that I feel that many people can do is create a
community, right? It's like a neighborhood watch.
You're not calling it a militia, you're not calling it anything
but a neighborhood watch or community within your community.
Get to know your neighbors, right?
Who's the welder? Who's the doctor?
Who's the Bitcoin guy, right? Everyone has to have some sort
of level of diversity because you're going to count on each
other in those type of extreme environments.
I mean, if people just go to YouTube and type in strategic
response partners, they'll see the multiple deployments that
we've done over all these past years, you know, and I know I
learned the beauty of it is I'm not the guy that that textbooks
on prepping. I'm the one who lives the
prepping and response side of it and creating a community.
It's always people go, man, you know, a lot of people.
I'm like, I make it a point to know a lot of people.
I'm the guy who's got a guy, right?
And I'm not asking people come train with us wherever you're at
locally, find a group and do a training, find an outdoor range,
do a training. We have the building with our
training to do some of the most incredible simulation, indoor
range, outdoor range, night OPS. We do all types of immersive
site. And of course, there's people
that are high net worth that pay for these specialized training
for like the YPO or groups that, of like that where they'll get a
group together of their friends. You just bring in a good
trainer, a good instructor and get, get, get the training, get
your, your family prepped and know how you're going to move in
and around a zone if things go down.
Like you mentioned with the Bitcoin, having a Starlink,
having a battery backup, having the solar panels.
And you know what you do? Run a drill, kill your cell
service off, run a drill, put your Starlink up, run the stuff
and see what you what your hiccups are.
That's the biggest problem. People don't drill any of this
stuff. It's like, oh, I'm too busy.
Well, you're going to have a lot of time on your hand when it
goes down, fumbling with stuff that you're like, Oh my God, I
really, I missed that connection, that little, that
little filament or that little screw that would have made my
life a lot easier. Handle it now, not when it's in
crisis mode. Then you're the person who's
relaxed knowing I'm in position to ride this thing out.
Absolutely. I I I 100% agree.
With you, we have a term, Steve in in the Bitcoin in the Bitcoin
space, which is we call it peer-to-peer circular economies,
right. So again, you know, no, like
the, there, there's, there's entire examples of this, like
for example, Bitcoin beach in El Salvador and you know, in Costa
Rica as well, where the traditional financial rails just
weren't viable in those areas. So that's where Bitcoin kind of
came in. And it finally allowed a lot of
these individuals in those kind of like isolated communities to
finally not only transact with each other digitally, but now
have the ability to transact with the world as well.
And it, it goes back to OK, yes, know a plumber and you know,
know a doctor know this person and you could pay them directly
peer-to-peer with Bitcoin. And, and it makes you it, it,
it, it puts you in a stronger position.
It makes you more sovereign and it makes you less dependent on,
you know, on, on, on the powers that be, so to speak.
The dependency goes back on yourself, which in my opinion, I
think is a good thing. I think that if more of the
world, you know, trusted in themselves and depended on
themselves, I think a lot of the the issues that we see with big
government today, a lot of that would naturally, you know,
dissipate as time goes by. So Steve, it's been an honor to
have you on the show today. I'd love to have you back on
again today. I think that again on the show,
I think there's a ton of synergy between what you do at Saber.
And and and and the offerings. That you guys have and the
Bitcoin community as a whole. And I think that this is just
the tip of the iceberg in terms of the of the synergy and in
terms of really people opening up their eyes because there
really is an enormous community out there, Steve, that is, is
looking at what you had to say. And they're highly interested in
it because it's it it goes right up their alley in terms of
wanting them, wanting their them wanting to reclaim back their
sovereignty, not only financially, but as a whole, as
an individual. You know, it's interesting you.
Shared earlier that you're a first.
Generation from Venezuela, I'm a first generation from Serbia, so
I know my family, the pain that they went through with
communism. My father spending seven years
in prison for for his Christian faith, right, because he
wouldn't take a gun. You know, it's kind of skips a
generation. But you know, what it always
brings me back is that if I find that those of us who've come
from those countries, Warren torn countries sanctioned you,
you, you know, back then, you don't read the newspaper and you
don't trust the government and you learn how to move
sovereignly. But you take full accountability
of how you operate. And you only operate because you
have community that's trusted. So thank you again for having me
on your show. I'm here simply to teach,
educate, give them the clear path that I know based on
results works and also what doesn't work.
So, you know, your audience is welcome to reach out, be a
little patient. You know, we're on certain OPS
that that are critical. But I will do my best and I will
respond. I respond to everybody.
I make it a point. Thank you, Steve, I appreciate
it. Guys, go to Saber.
Team.com to find out more information.
We also put Steve's website in the video slash podcast
description. Steve, thank you so much for
joining us today. I really appreciate it.
Appreciate you as well. Thanks for having me.
Guys, we're going to move on to the next segment.
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Alright everybody, we are back. Anyways.
Guys, tons of clips to react to. I got one by the Economist.
They're, they're, you know, they're, they're scaling it up,
the propaganda scaling up again. We played you guys this clip of
again, guys, there's, there's this, I'll just be blunt,
there's there's a, there's a political divide as it comes to
Bitcoin, unfortunately, and there are.
And again, it's not monolithic, but essentially there are people
in the United States and countries all around the world
that want a future of central bank digital currencies.
I would say that's a future of of nihilism, despair, endless
war is a continuation of the Fiat system, but times 10.
And then there is another side. Of the.
Political spectrum that wants freedom, right, that wants to be
able to get to decide what money they can use.
In my humble opinion, the fact that you know the the you have
to basically you're you're forced to use.
Money that is designed to steal from you via inflation is
ludicrous. Like, and that's not how the
country was originally structured, right?
The, you know, the, this Fiat standard is quite new.
It's only been around since 1971.
And you know, before that, right before the Federal Reserve, you
know, which was established in 1913, you didn't have a central
bank in the United States. In fact, a lot of the original
founding fathers warned about what would happen if a central
bank was established. And a lot of their predictions
were became eerily accurate, right?
So, you know, we have two opposing world views that are
happening right now and the media outlets that that support
the world view of more centralization, more, you know,
the continuation of Fiat, the continuation of the central
banking system. Because ultimately, guys, you
have to understand, right? And I know that that like
politicians kind of played this dance where they're like, look
like, you know, Bitcoin isn't money.
It's actually a commodity. It's okay if it's a commodity,
but it's not okay if it's money. And the reason that they have to
take that stance is because Bitcoin in its very nature, the
reason the IMF freaked out the way they did when El Salvador
made Bitcoin legal tender, and the reason the IMF put so much
pressure on El Salvador for El Salvador to reverse the Bitcoin
as legal tender is the central bankers can't have it.
For Bitcoin to be seen as a money.
To for Bitcoin to be treated and equal to Fiat.
And the reason they can't have Bitcoin seen in that light is it
calls their whole system into question.
Bitcoin proves that money can exist without losing purchasing
power. Bitcoin proves that money can
exist without a central bank. Bitcoin proves that money can
exist without a custodian. Bitcoin proves that money can
exist without a middleman. And all of the things that I
just laid out for you have enormous implications for the
current power structures of the world.
So the reason I'm laying all of this out is I know we started
with kind of like the trad FI conversation in the beginning
because that relates to number go up.
But remember why we are all here.
We were all here. We originally came to Bitcoin
because it gave us hope. It gave us hope for change.
It gave us hope for a better future.
And that better future comes with ending the Federal Reserve.
And I think that what we learned as Bitcoiners when we finally
threw our hat in the political ring is we finally learned with
the election of President Trump, which I appreciate.
What he did for Venezuela is amazing.
What he did for the Bitcoin community has been great, the
fact that he freed Ross Ulbricht.
But what we learned with Trump, I believe, is that I don't think
you can change the system within the system.
I think the only way for things to actually change and I tweeted
this out like a week ago or so. Is that the most important?
Vote you can make this midterm year is not voting for party
blue or party red. The most important vote you can
make is reclaiming back your sovereignty.
The number one thing you should do is reclaiming back your
financial sovereignty and you do that by buying Bitcoin, earning
Bitcoin, and putting that Bitcoin into self custody.
That is the most important thing you could do as an individual
and the most important thing that you could do for you and
your family because that way you opt out of politics entirely.
Now that's not. To say that.
Politics aren't important, right?
You obviously do want, you know, elected officials in office
that, you know, represent your your desires, But I think the
system is so well entrenched that it's going to be very
difficult for us to change that said system internally.
I think the only way for that system to change is if, if if
enough of the population start to opt out of the system
entirely. And the way that you do that is
again, buying Bitcoin, earning Bitcoin, mining Bitcoin and
putting that Bitcoin into self custody.
I think that's really the only way to do it.
So all of that. Being said, I do.
Want to show you guys this video from The Economist because
again, you know, we've been covering the economist for so
long. I, I love, you know, one of the,
the, one of my favorite things from the people that critique
Bitcoin is that they always opti, I'm sure you've noticed
this. They always end up calling
themselves economist. So it's basically the line goes
something like this. Bitcoin is not money.
Trust me. I studied economics, right?
Like that's the line, right? And it's like, dude, if you
studied economics, I don't know what type of economics you
studied, but you don't get to determine what is money.
The free market determines what is money.
Not you. Not you with your credentials,
not you the politician, not you the central banker.
Ultimately, the free market is going to get to decide what is
money and what is not money. That is a big culture shock.
That is a huge shock to the powers that be in the power
structures because governments get a tremendous.
Amount of. Power from being able to create
money for free that everyone else has to work for.
So you guys have to understand where we are in the movie
Connect the dots. We started the episode with all
right, guys, number go up stretch is fantastic.
We'll we're infiltrating the traditional financial system.
This is great. You know, we did the middle of
the show. We brought Steve from Sabre team
to talk to you guys about, you know, reclaiming back your your
you know, your your individual sovereignty and meat space.
And now we're ending the show with.
Keeping you guys. Informed with what the enemies
of Bitcoin are saying, what their propaganda is saying, it's
extremely important to stay on top of all of this so that you
are informed. After all, this is a midterm
year and whether you like it or not, there's only two parties in
the United States. One party which again not a big
fan of with this the the the Trump videos.
Coming out of his account, the. Wild there's like that We the
the the we sports video and then he's showing like all the
bombings that are happening in Iran.
Not a big fan of that a big fan of what happened in Venezuela.
So again, it's not perfect right, but ultimately how it
stands right now is that the Republican Party has a pro
Bitcoin anti CBDC stance. The Democrat party, which will
more than likely win the midterms, has a anti crypto anti
Bitcoin stance and pro CBDC stance.
That's how things stand right. So I am not an ideological
voter. I am a single issue voter.
My, my, my vote is, hey, listen, I'm going to vote for the party.
And that, you know, at least isn't going to, you know, come
after me or try to censor me because I'm advocating for
freedom tech and freedom money, right?
Anyhow, so I do want to show you guys this.
The economist clearly stands on the side of central bank digital
currencies. It clearly stands on the side
of, you know, the government should control money.
So I want to show you guys this, you know, one of the latest the
hit pieces that that they that they released.
So the economist is claiming that crypto isn't cool anymore.
So let's check out the clip. Crypto is uncool now.
For an asset class based on vibes, that's a big problem.
Bitcoin is down about 45% since October.
The market value of all cryptocurrencies has fallen by
almost $2 trillion. But crypto has crashed before.
So why do its biggest fans see more despondent than ever?
They're sad. Because they're lonely.
The last All right, I'm just going to leave it at that.
So again. This is.
Just again, ladies and gentlemen, this is this is
propaganda one O 1. They're, you know, they're
basically saying, you know, Bitcoin is, is is is isn't cool
anymore. And if you buy Bitcoin or if
you're into Bitcoin, the reason that you're into Bitcoin, it's
because you're lonely, right? So their excuses are suffering
from inflation themselves, their propaganda suffering from
inflation, they can't even come up with good reasons anymore,
but they want you to walk nilly, nilly into hey, let's all adopt
central bank digital currencies because they're fantastic,
right? So we've seen every single type
of FUD. Excuse known to man thrown at us
for the last 10 years or so. It's clear to me that Opti at
least seeing that video. Man are they running out of
reasons bro to say the least. Yeah, yeah.
Are you lonely? I'm.
Dude, I'm so lonely. Yo, look, I know Niko's going to
get. Mad at my response here but dude
first of all. That last point I mean I.
Honestly, I kind of wish we we heard the rest of it.
I'm not going to lie, I, I kind of, I was having a good laugh at
that. But we're not mad that we're
lonely here. We're mad that the price is down
50%. What are we?
What are we talking? About like yo are, are you
kidding? Me and and further like look
again, I know we try to be as inclusive and Nico yells at me
all the time, but if you're listening to this nerd about
what is cool, like bro, you got a bigger problem.
OK, Like this guy is literally the epitome of not cool telling
us what cool is. It's like OK, but I do I do
agree with him on a point. Crypto is not cool.
Crypto, the word crypto is not cool.
All the shit coins are not cool at all.
People are getting literally destroyed.
Everyone's hoping for crypto shit coins to go up.
Like crypto has never been cool. Literally crypto has never been
cool. Now, obviously I have a bias.
I, I think Bitcoin is the cool thing.
Like Bitcoin is the fundamental revolutionary technology here.
And it's not necessarily just about Bitcoin, you know, being
cool with the tech itself. It's really about what it means
for humanity, what it means means for the world, what it
means for us as individuals. Like, to me, that is cool.
Call me a nerd because I wear glasses too, whatever.
But to me, the implications of what Bitcoin is going to do, I
think that's like the coolest thing ever.
That's why we are so obsessed with it.
That's why we became obsessed with it in the first place.
Now, it does make a point here, though.
I, I, I know the Economist made a point.
It's not about economics at all, but you can see that a lot of
the stuff that we've been talking about recently, and I'm
particularly me on the show and Nico as well, 'cause we have
been covering the propaganda against Bitcoin is you can tell
from where the price currently is, where we currently are in
the bear market, that the sentiment, the demoralization
has been working very well. And you can see right now that
they're doubling down on this moment, that they're going to
continue to double down, continue to try to get people
away from Bitcoin because they know what it means.
They know, know what it will do. It's their jobs to try to get
people basically still corralled in the traditional vehicles, in
the traditional system. Because if everyone's out here,
you know, just doing Bitcoin things completely unplugged,
then they obviously, one, will lose their business model.
But two, it will fundamentally change where things are.
And then they have to update what's going on.
They have to update their models.
They have to change their worldview.
And so honestly, I'm I kind of enjoyed that.
I'm not going to lie. I I totally do agree.
Shit, coins aren't cool. I don't listen to that.
I like, I can't even listen to that guy tell me what cool is to
me. That's just funny in and of
itself. Listen man, I'm I'm selling all
my bags. Because I'm lonely, bro.
That's, that's what it comes down to.
And I'm so lonely. Like I I got to, I got to buy
the. The CBI mean.
He's got a point. Dude.
I thought we were going to get. I thought I was going to get a
girlfriend the cycle. So I actually lonely.
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