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It's. 
All going to zero against 

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Bitcoin. 
It's going on forever. 

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You're against Bitcoin. 
You're against freedom. 

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Yeah, we're going to send to 
Bitcoin. 

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You're number one source for the
peaceful Bitcoin revolution. 

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Breaking news called traumatic 
warfare. 

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We will be your guide through 
the separation of money and 

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state. 
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to

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Simply Bitcoin. 
The most watched daily Bitcoin 

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live show on YouTube. 
Rumble, Annex. 

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Sit back. 
Relax, enjoy the ride. 

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We have a lot to talk about 
today. 

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Michael Saylor dropping the hot 
fire at the Bitcoin for 

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Corporations conference. 
He said the choir part out loud.

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He said, like, look, the reason 
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going to 100 X over the next 10 
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are just not awakened to it yet.
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case that, look, you know, once,
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everyone's on a Bitcoin 
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know, the opportunity isn't 
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right. 
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point from Sailor. 
We have the clip for you guys. 

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We're going to play it for you. 
And then there was this viral 

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clip going around the Internet 
about all these college 

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graduates basically booing 
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And I I kind of, I find it a 
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bet like a big portion of the 
people in that audience, in that

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graduation audience is like 
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in debt. 
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course that's a decision. 
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to college, some people don't 
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know, they're totally open to, 
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know, to to potentially further 
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Potentially not. 
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completely against Bitcoin, 
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The community reacted to it in a
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you guys know, we love to talk 
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is of course the separation of 
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predicted back in 1997 in terms 
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Of course, Rodger Ver was 
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not paying his taxes even though
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Bitcoin exposes incentives. 
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question the very relationship 
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Like, isn't it a little bit 
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forces you to pay, you know, a 
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you want to leave, if you want 
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to seem like that. 
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accelerate, I think as as more 
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out, I think, you know, I I 
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comes into play. 
This is where Bitcoin comes into

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play. 
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play. 
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computing come into play. 
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they can definitely Co opt 
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definitely Co opt someone else's
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But it's a lot more difficult 
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millions upon millions of 
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private keys, millions upon 
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their own computing computing 
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structure was based on the fact 
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always going to be a handful of 
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opt and they can basically use 
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starting to change. 
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all that for you guys today. 
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guest and I consider him a 
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We have the CEO and Founder of 
SIGN Matt, how you doing? 

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Welcome to the show. 
Hey, thanks for having me back 

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on. 
What's up, Nico? 

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And I just want to give a shout 
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bowl in the back of Matt's 
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Matt, you you want to talk a 
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unfortunately like Matt hanged 
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But it was perfect in the sense 
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background. 
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bull, bro? 
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there's just this plain white 
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give me crap about it. 
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Like, I don't have like, books 
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fancy. 
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Bitlock Boom 2023, so, you know,
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you know, in the depths of the 
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was supposed to begin when I 
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promise that I had received when
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that whoever got this would 
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When they hung it. 
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sitting in my basement and and 
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without me. 
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bullshit on the voodoo that this
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But we've stalled, right? 
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it goes flat or goes down. 
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So I'm using this show as an 
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the beginning of the bull 
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That's that's right. 
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it here first. 
The bull market may commence now

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that Matt has hanged the flaming
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I also want to bring up my 
legendary code who is always 

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optimistic. 
Look at that giant smile 

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optimist field. 
How you doing Opti? 

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I'm doing great, man. 
It's good to have you back, 

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Nico. 
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good on a Bitcoin standard and 
shouts out to Matt 'cause he's 

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officially starting the bull run
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So you guys heard it here first.
It's going to start pumping. 

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Absolutely love to hear it. 
I believe it. 

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I believe it's going to be a 
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And during the culture segment, 
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sovereign computing, which I 
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got some hints of in in the 
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importance of that in the next 5
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I think you know and and it's 
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experimenting with a lot of the 
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by the way, highly recommend it.
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it's a sovereign computer. 
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the Bitcoin node is the Trojan 
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So I've been playing with a lot 
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Matt, like Nextcloud I believe 
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There's a vault, Warden is 
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So and it's it's credibly 
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of, you know, going to the URL, 
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address. 
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and it's just been so incredibly
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But for anyone who's not in the 
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quick elevator pitch on what is 
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What is start nine and what is 
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I'm going to do the elevator for
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your desktop. 
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right? 
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What are they remotely 
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They were remotely controlling 
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every circumstance. 
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operated by some company, right?
Namely the company whose app you

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downloaded. 
So if you download some app onto

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your iPhone and you open that 
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you are remotely administering 
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This gives them enormous insight
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computing life, right? 
They can basically see every 

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button that you're clicking. 
They are processing all the 

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information. 
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And according to, you know, one 
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things like the third party 
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As soon as you do that, as soon 
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administer somebody else's 
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none of the information that 
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stored on that server is 
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anyone with sufficient authority
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So with that in mind, what do 
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reality? 
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do is stop using other people's 
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information and store all of 
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Store your data on your own 

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server from your own home and 
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world using your cell phones and
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ultimately resulting in the same
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excluding every and all third 
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becoming a digital sovereign. 
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the 4th Amendment because it is 
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any search of it would require a
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The problem until now has been 
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a normal person to do. 
Running your own server from 

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your own home and using it to 
run all sorts of different 

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applications and accessing those
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the world and doing so with 
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efficiency has basically just 
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of the human race because it's 
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And So what we have taken on as 
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source software endeavours is to
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computing paradigm that makes 
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everyone. 
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And I can attest to that. 
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just because my mind is always 
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realm. 
I tend to, I like to I tend to 

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like convenient things. 
But I always wanted to run my 

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own node and and connect to it 
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world. 
That was one of the issues that 

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I had and I was finally able to 
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And eventually, you know, I 

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And you know, I I I can attest 
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cool that if you really, really 
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sovereignty and your own device 
really, 'cause I I know for a 

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fact no matter where I'm 
travelling, like I'm in in 

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Maida, Portugal and I'm pulling 
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Whispero, whatever, I know that 
I'm connecting to my node at 

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home. 
Like that is so effing cool and 

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it feels really good. 
Like to the point where like 

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I'll open up multiple times just
to see it sync and knowing that 

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it's, you know, I'm connecting 
to my my node like literally 

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thousands of miles away and I've
done this in multiple countries 

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and it feels really good. 
And then not to mention all the 

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other applications, the the data
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incredibly cool guys. 
So I can't wait to talk more 

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about that and the rest of the 
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Before we do that, I do want to 
give a show a shout out to our 

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It's a publicly traded company 

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Future proof? 
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That means that you can't buy 

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Well unless you're going to take

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self custody, which perfectly 
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of the separation of money and 
state, this is a company that 

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wants to make sure your 
grandchildren have a safe place 

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to buy Bitcoin. 
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default Bitcoin on ramp in the 
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All right everybody, let's hit 
the numbers. 

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We have a lot to talk about the 
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website at the time of 
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The Bitcoin price is 63,530 
block height 842,464 SATS per 

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dollar, 1574 market cap 1.25 
trillion Bitcoin priced in gold 

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27.6 oz Bitcoin verse Gold 
market cap 7.91%. 

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The percentage issued of the 
total supply is 93.78% declined 

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from all time high 13.8% but not
for long. 

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The bull market has commenced 
forward monetary inflation .85% 

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and realize monetary inflation 
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So even if governments and 
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that mythological, you know guru
whatever 2% inflation number 

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that they can't even explain why
that is 2% theft. 

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Your money has to have that in 
order to work. 

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You know Bitcoin is still taking
it to absolute school and of 

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course the halvings ensure that 
numbers just gonna that it that 

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forward monetary inflation just 
gonna keep going down forever. 

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Anyways what I did wanted to 
talk. 

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What I do want to talk about 
today is this this again it went

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viral. 
So essentially this guy right 

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here Ohio State commencement 
speaker talks Bitcoin in front 

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of 60,000 people and gets booed.
Let's check it out. 

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Great investors are open minded 
and understand things before 

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other people, so I know this 
might feel polarizing, but I 

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encourage you to keep an open 
mind. 

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Right now. 
I see Bitcoin as a very 

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misunderstood asset class. 
Here's like another version of 

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it as well. 
Here we go. 

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I know this might be a war, but 
I encourage you to keep an open 

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mic right now. 
No, I. 

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See. 
Bitcoin like and then you see 

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like in the screen on the top 
right, of course, something that

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we've showed showed to you guys 
multiple times, right? 

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Like he even has like the data 
to pack it up that look, if you 

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transition to a Bitcoin 
standard, your life will get 

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progressively cheaper, right? 
The American dream is not that. 

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The American dream is is 
thriving if you're on a Bitcoin 

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standard and not only is it the 
American Dream, the American 

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Dream has explored has been 
exported all around the world. 

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Bitcoin has already made all 
time highs in most Fiat 

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currencies and it just made an 
all time high in the US dollar. 

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And it's gonna make another all 
time high because it's Infinity 

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divided by 21 million and your 
life will get cheaper. 

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And what's really interesting to
me is that this is an entire 

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stadium and Dylan Leclair has a 
really good .100. 

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A $100,000 of unsecured debt is 
good. 

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Bitcoin is bad. 
Here's our boy Nick. 

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Can't mine Repeat after me. 
Capitalism. 

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Capitalism. 
Bad. 

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Bad. 
Great job. 

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You're so smart. 
Here's your degree. 

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That'll be a hunt. 
That'll be 300 K And the the, 

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you know, the students freaking 
out like this is like, this is 

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insane. 
This is crazy. 

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But, you know, I think a lot of 
people were were seeing this. 

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And it's like, yeah, this is 
pretty crazy. 

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But here's our boy Nick. 
And I think Michael Saylor says 

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it best. 
Like the fact that so many 

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people and this is like the next
generation of students are 

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looking down on it and basically
not seeing an opportunity where 

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you're seeing an opportunity. 
And this is something that I've 

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seen other Bitcoiners kind of 
get frustrated about, like, holy

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cow, like this isn't happening 
fast enough. 

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I talked to my normie friends 
and they still don't get it. 

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They still don't understand. 
Here's Michael Saylor explaining

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to basically the Bitcoin for 
corporations crowd why that is a

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good thing, why that actually is
an opportunity. 

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And he mentions, you know, the 
fact that he believes that 

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Bitcoin will 100X in the next 10
years and sounds unbelievable 

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from our perspective. 
But let's say it does half of 

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that. 
Let's say 25 percent, 30% of 

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that, right? 
That's still absolutely insane. 

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And what I gotta say is, if I 
told you 10 years ago that 

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Bitcoin would be where it's at 
today, you would have laughed. 

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You would have booed me out of 
the room. 

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You would have laughed at me and
it seems like, you know, we got,

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we got a similar, we got a 
similar reaction. 

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I never forget Andreas 
Antonopoulos giving speeches 

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when Bitcoin was at $100 to an 
empty room. 

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I remember that. 
I never forget that Andreas 

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shout out to him. 
He orange billed me. 

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I was watching his videos in 
2016 and it really resonated 

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with me. 
I'm not going to lie, of course 

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I came for the money. 
I stayed for the revolution. 

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But you know, if everyone sees 
it, then you know, maybe you're 

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a little late. 
And I think that's what Michael 

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Saylor's trying to say in this 
clip. 

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Let's check it out. 
If people agree with you when 

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you say I like Bitcoin, that 
means it's not a good investment

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anymore. 
You understand, at the point 

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when it's not controversial and 
everybody agrees with you, 

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everybody will own it. 
The price will be 100 X. 

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You won't be able to afford to 
buy 1% of what you want, right. 

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You want to know it. 
You don't want them to 

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understand it. 
Let them take 10 years to figure

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it out because that's how you 
100 X and people. 

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I think he's right. 
Like I'll be honest with you. 

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I think he's right. 
I like I'm I'm at that point 

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where you know if people want to
be like like if people just want

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to like you know be like that 
and. 

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You know, just cheer and, you 
know, clap. 

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And I'll say this many times, 
like if you're a Gen. 

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Z or if you're a millennial, you
do not have the same opportunity

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that your parents once had to 
acquire real estate to get ahead

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in life. 
Like Bitcoin is your ticket out 

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of that situation. 
Bitcoin is your way forward. 

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I've seen it not only 
personally, but I've seen it, 

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and the people around me, I've 
seen them. 

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Once they've adopted a Bitcoin 
standard, their life improves, 

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right? 
Of course, sailors looking at it

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from an investment standpoint, 
but let's say you missed the 

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boat 10 years from now, for 
whatever reason, you still 

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didn't listen. 
It's still a good idea to adopt 

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A Bitcoin standard because, you 
know, it's like there's a finite

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supply. 
It's, it's, it's going to ensure

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your purchasing power, your 
energy, your time, right? 

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So yeah, I think we're still 
early to say the least. 

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I still think the masses have no
idea what this thing is, and I 

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think the masses are still 
drinking the kool-aid man like 

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they're still drinking that 
college kool-aid for whatever 

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reason. 
I don't know what that school is

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teaching them, but, you know, 
booing something that has been 

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the best performing asset that 
is, you know, completely changes

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the world, You know is is is is 
hilarious. 

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It just reminds me of Andreas, 
you know, giving a lecture to a 

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college room. 
Now, we have made progress in 

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the sense that at least they 
know what Bitcoin is when the 

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guy brought it up, right? 
You know, five years ago, 10 

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years ago, they would have been 
like, what are you talking 

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about? 
Right. 

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So at least we've made progress,
but, you know, it's I I think 

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they're gonna regret, you know, 
saying that, you know, 5-10 

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years from now. 
Anyways, Matt, I'll start with 

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you. 
Do you think Sailor's right? 

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What's your reaction on the 
whole stadium of college 

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students booing Bitcoin? 
What's your take on all this? 

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First of all, Sailor is 
definitely right. 

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That is the sort of nature of 
investments, not savings as 

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Bitcoin will eventually become. 
But if you're wanting to 

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increase your purchasing power, 
your worth, right, your your 

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amount of capital that you 
control, you have to find things

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before other people do. 
And it doesn't need to be 

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Bitcoin. 
It's really anything, right? 

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Like even as a as a child, so 
quick back story real quick. 

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Like my parents gave me control 
over my stock brokerage account 

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when I was 12. 
I was able to call my broker and

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make trades without their 
permission up to certain limits 

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when I was 12. 
And they did that because I had 

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been picking. 
I'm good. 

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And I exhibited a degree of, you
know, restraint when it came to 

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not being reckless. 
But I I just say that because 

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ultimately, even at that age, 
what I was doing, my philosophy 

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was to find something that I 
thought was awesome. 

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Like, it was basically just that
I just lived my life, and 

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whenever I encountered something
that was really, really cool, 

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the first thing I asked myself 
was, does anybody else know 

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about this yet? 
And if the answer was no, like, 

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I felt like I had discovered 
something before other people 

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did. 
The next thing I did was sought 

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whether there was an investment 
opportunity in that thing. 

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Like, is there a stock for it? 
Is there a, you know, is it 

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something I can trade? 
And if both of those answers 

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were yes, like it's something I 
like, it's something other 

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people don't know about yet, and
it's tradable. 

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It's something I can reasonably 
get into. 

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Then I did, and that was my 
basic philosophy and it always 

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worked well. 
And anytime I tried to do 

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anything other than that, like 
short something that I didn't 

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like or you know any other chart
voodoo or anything like that, it

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always failed and I always lost.
But a tried and true means of 

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investing is find something 
that's awesome before other 

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people do and get some skin in 
the game. 

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So he's right. 
And the bigger the opportunity 

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and the longer it takes people 
to figure out or the cooler the 

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thing and the longer it takes, 
the bigger the opportunity. 

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So with Bitcoin, it's obviously 
massive because it's a massive 

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earth shattering change and it's
taking people a very long time 

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to find out about it and 
understand it. 

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So it's a huge opportunity 
today. 

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It was more of an opportunity 
yesterday, but it'll still be an

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opportunity in in the near 
future from an investment 

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standpoint, right? 
Bitcoin always is useful, even 

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after it ceases to be an 
investment, but right now it's 

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still is a huge investment 
opportunity in my opinion. 

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I, I 100% agree and I think that
I think there there's two things

455
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,440
can be true and I can't 
emphasize that enough, right. 

456
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,560
Bitcoin, even if you know it 
reaches you know that the, you 

457
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320
know those these crazy numbers 
where the volatility starts to 

458
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,840
decrease, right. 
It's in the millions of dollars 

459
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320
per coin, which I think we'll 
definitely see. 

460
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,880
I I think you know the 
volatility is obviously going to

461
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,440
decrease. 
Now it's still better money, 

462
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,200
right, compared to Fiat 
currencies, 100%. 

463
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,160
But obviously in terms of the 
investing opportunity, you know 

464
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,920
the upside isn't you know isn't 
as great as it once was. 

465
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,240
And I think this is where I 
think a lot of people, you know,

466
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,080
a lot of people are are not 
seeing, you know the the 

467
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,600
potential upside. 
Now Matt, do you this is getting

468
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480
into speculation territory which
we don't like to talk about on 

469
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,960
simply Bitcoin. 
But you know Michael Saylor did 

470
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,120
throw out that 100 X number. 
Is that something that you can 

471
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:46,400
see as as possible, especially 
with Bitcoin sitting at 63,000? 

472
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,760
I think 100 X would put it at 
one 6.3 million if let's. 

473
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,560
Be let's be clear about what you
mean 100 X in real purchasing 

474
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,760
power or in terms of dollars. 
Because in terms of dollars, 

475
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,000
it's an inevitability that it'll
go 100 X. 

476
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,040
There's no future where it 
doesn't go 100 X because the 

477
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,560
dollar is will die eventually. 
The dollar cannot survive 

478
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,480
forever in its current form. 
They might come out with the 

479
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,640
dollar two, which is some CBDC 
thing, but in terms of today's 

480
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,360
dollars, that thing is dying. 
It must die. 

481
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,480
And so Bitcoin will go to 
Infinity against that. 

482
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800
But that doesn't mean it'll go 
100X or to Infinity in terms of 

483
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,480
purchasing power like real world
purchasing power from a personal

484
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:36,480
standpoint based on gold's place
in history and Bitcoin 

485
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,920
fundamentally kind of replacing 
gold in my opinion, then I do 

486
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,080
think it has 100X or more of 
real purchasing power potential 

487
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,640
increase. 
And I say potential because 

488
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,400
obviously this is, this is 
technology, this is a project 

489
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,000
and it is still an early stage 
project from a you know, socio 

490
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,360
political historical standpoint.
This is still a very early stage

491
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,120
experiment and it might not work
out. 

492
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,040
But if it does work out and it 
does fulfill its promise, then 

493
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:08,480
sure, hundred X and real 
purchasing power seems very 

494
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,920
reasonable to me. 
I 100% agree with that and that 

495
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,800
I can't emphasize that enough, 
right? 

496
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,880
If Bitcoin stays decentralized 
and secure, right? 

497
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,400
That's the big if this is a 
project, you know, a lot of 

498
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,680
people feel strongly about this,
but I I still think we have a 

499
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,680
tremendous amount of work to do 
on the educational level, as you

500
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,960
can see by an entire class that 
supposedly was educated in 

501
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,440
higher education, literally 
booing the the best money that 

502
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
has ever existed in the history 
of mankind. 

503
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,480
I'd like to weigh in on that, 
actually, real quick. 

504
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:49,080
So the the booing at Ohio State 
commencement, 2 things to keep 

505
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,080
in mind here, OK, 'cause it's 
not just that simple, right? 

506
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,840
One is that this is a 
commencement address, OK? 

507
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:02,040
And if that guy had stood on 
stage and pitched Apple as a 

508
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,280
great investment or something 
like that, it would have been 

509
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,560
inappropriate and obviously 
inappropriate, right? 

510
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,640
Like commencement speeches or, 
you know, they're ever what 

511
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,520
they're whatever the speaker 
wants them to be. 

512
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,160
But traditionally and sort of 
what the crowd is expecting, you

513
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000
have to know your audience and 
know your, you know, context 

514
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,120
there. 
There tend to be sort of higher 

515
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,480
level, more, you know, 
conceptual and philosophic and 

516
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,280
looking to the future and broad 
things like if someone got on 

517
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280
stage and started pitching, you 
know, we need to vote Republican

518
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,160
in the next election, people 
would do. 

519
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080
And if he said we need to vote 
Democrat in the next election, 

520
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760
people would do. 
And in a way, Bitcoin kind of 

521
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,080
fits into that category, right? 
Like, I'm not sure that it was 

522
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,760
appropriate and appropriate 
setting for him to be pitching a

523
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:51,000
crowd full of recently, you 
know, college educated children 

524
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,880
who who just studied, you know, 
Keynesian economics and 

525
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,960
socialism as the solution to 
everything. 

526
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,880
And their parents and their 
younger siblings to then just 

527
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,920
put up a chart of like housing 
prices decreasing in terms of 

528
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120
Bitcoin. 
It was a little inappropriate. 

529
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,280
And I think that that is where 
some of the booing came from. 

530
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800
It was like, who is this guy 
pitching us on an investment 

531
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,440
opportunity at our commencement 
address? 

532
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040
So that's part of it, OK. 
And the second part, which is 

533
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,640
not, has nothing to do with the 
booing. 

534
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360
I just wanted to like, let 
everyone know this is that 

535
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,600
immediately following the 
booing, this guy said in the 

536
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,360
early days, exchanges for 
Bitcoin were prone to hacks and 

537
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,120
fraud. 
But the issue has been resolved 

538
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640
with the recent launch of the 
Bitcoin ETFs. 

539
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200
This guy has no fucking idea 
what he's talking about and he's

540
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960
not a good representative of 
Bitcoin. 

541
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,760
So was it The booing and that 
are separate issues? 

542
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,840
But still, like, this guy's a 
little squirmy, right? 

543
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,120
And I think the booing was in 
part the the context, the timing

544
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,400
and the personality of the 
person delivering it. 

545
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,240
I mean that was a phenomenal 
analysis and I completely agree 

546
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,840
with you guys. 
There's 2231 of you guys 

547
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,040
watching live, not including 
Rumble. 

548
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Let's see what what rumble's at 
48 of you guys watching live on 

549
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Rumble. 
If you guys are enjoying the 

550
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,560
show, make sure to smash that 
like button. 

551
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Also shout out to the Rumble 
team for verifying us on Rumble.

552
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Really appreciate over there. 
So yeah, guys smash the like 

553
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,360
button. 
Really tells the YouTube algos 

554
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,000
and the Rumble algos and the 
Twitter algos to push the orange

555
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,160
signal forward. 
So help us break 100 likes 

556
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,880
within the 1st 35 minutes of the
show. 

557
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Anyways, Opti, what's your take 
on this brother? 

558
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,320
Yeah, I think, I think Matt like
hit the tail the head. 

559
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,040
That was a great analysis. 
I I love Matt's take on this. 

560
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800
And I totally, totally agree. 
And I did. 

561
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920
I didn't watch the whole speech,
but I watched like the full 3 

562
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,440
minutes that I saw on Twitter 
and like kind of what Matt was 

563
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520
saying, you know, the speech was
a little bit cringe. 

564
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,160
I'm not going to lie, but you 
know, let the cringe commence 

565
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,160
until financial literacy 
improves. 

566
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,560
So I think it is, you know, 
caveat in what Matt said. 

567
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040
I think this is a perfect like 
zeitgeist of the normally 

568
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,360
perception of Bitcoin and 
obviously he probably could have

569
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000
took some better context cues 
and maybe wasn't the right place

570
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,800
for the speech. 
But I think it does highlight 

571
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,360
what we say all the time here on
the show. 

572
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Like this is what we're up 
against. 

573
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
I I think most people have heard
about Bitcoin. 

574
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,000
They've made-up their mind about
Bitcoin. 

575
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,080
A lot of people hate on Bitcoin 
and bitcoiners in general and 

576
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400
this is how I know we're still 
early is because most people 

577
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,800
still fundamentally don't 
understand what Bitcoin is, what

578
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,960
bitcoins trying to solve. 
And you know Nico always goes to

579
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,320
education and part of that is, 
you know maybe they didn't hear 

580
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,280
the right messaging around 
Bitcoin. 

581
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,400
But I think it also is kind of a
culmination of what he open the 

582
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,120
speech with. 
It's like if you're open minded 

583
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
and that's the whole thing. 
Most people have made-up their 

584
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,120
mind about Bitcoin and they 
think they know what Bitcoin is 

585
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,280
about. 
They think it's about 

586
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,480
speculating and making money and
all that good stuff. 

587
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,560
And I think this is just a 
culmination of everything that 

588
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360
I've experienced when I try to 
talk to normal people about 

589
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Bitcoin. 
So at this point I am kind of 

590
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,600
like black pilled. 
I I only open up the Bitcoin 

591
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,720
pitch to people that I know are 
able to receive that pitch, 

592
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,120
whether they believe in freedom,
whether they have pain points, 

593
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,720
whether they're having problems 
with their groceries and not, 

594
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,240
you know, caring about real 
estate being too expensive. 

595
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,840
Like I think it's kind of a good
framing to be like pick your 

596
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,480
battles and you don't 
necessarily need to shield 

597
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Bitcoin at every, you know, 
family dinner or every friend 

598
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,560
dinner that you have. 
I think there's a time and a 

599
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160
place to really talk about 
Bitcoin and it really goes to 

600
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,600
what I say all the time here on 
the show. 

601
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,160
It's like you are a walking 
billboard for Bitcoin and the 

602
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,600
best way to spread Bitcoin is by
living that message. 

603
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,200
And you know, we could probably 
go on about the kids booing 

604
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,520
about Bitcoin and dunk on them 
all all we want, But I think 

605
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,480
it's just very important to 
remember that maybe it wasn't 

606
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720
the time and a place to be 
shilling Bitcoin at the 

607
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,680
commencement speech. 
But hey, good on the kid for 

608
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,040
trying to spread that message. 
So shouts out to him for trying 

609
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,600
to orange pill 60,000 kids. 
And I think you know, getting in

610
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,520
the toxic Bitcoin route. 
Like This is why we have the 

611
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,480
meme that you get Bitcoin at the
price you deserve. 

612
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Like, I I'm convinced people 
I've heard about Bitcoin that 

613
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400
vaguely understand Bitcoin. 
They may have had a few touch 

614
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,800
points on Bitcoin, but they're 
just not ready to fully get the 

615
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Bitcoin message. 
And it is what it is. 

616
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,720
This is how I know that it's 
still a great opportunity for us

617
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,240
to continue to stack as many 
sets as possible and continue to

618
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,560
plant those seeds of freedom and
freedom technology and freedom 

619
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,240
money into the minds of people 
that that are open to it. 

620
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,280
And so it just, man, it just 
makes me know that we're still 

621
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760
early to this and I think those 
kids will look back on that 

622
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,040
speech or that moment in time 
eventually with shame when the 

623
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,080
bull run really does commence or
whether it. 

624
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Started it already. 
Started. 

625
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Yeah, it already started. 
Exactly. 

626
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Matt hanged his painting. 
Exactly. 

627
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,840
Or, you know, in the the 10 
years down the line when we 

628
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,720
hundred X, they'll look back and
be like, man, I was a dumb 

629
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,120
college kid and I was booing 
this guy who was trying to help 

630
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
me find financial freedom. 
I should have listened to him, 

631
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,000
but it is what it is. 
We're still early in this whole 

632
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,159
Bitcoin experiment, even though 
it's 15 years old. 

633
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560
But a lot of people have made-up
their minds about Bitcoin and so

634
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,440
only very defining things will 
change their mind. 

635
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,400
Either they gotta feel pain or 
the price has to go absolutely 

636
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,360
nuclear. 
And every single one of us has 

637
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,320
to not only build ourselves up, 
but build up businesses and be a

638
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,719
shining example what it means to
be a bit corner. 

639
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,120
And until then we have the 
opportunity to stack Sats. 

640
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,080
And as Matt is doing over there,
when you build it, they will 

641
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,800
come. 
So in time, hey, this is just 

642
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,120
giving us good cover to build 
over here and continue to spread

643
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,560
the signal and eventually those 
kids will come around, but until

644
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,080
then, hey, they will just have 
fun staying poor. 

645
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
It is what it is. 
All right everybody. 

646
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Before we get on to the news, I 
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647
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648
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649
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650
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651
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655
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I can't emphasize enough the 

656
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fact that if you're going to 
Nashville, you're like, OK, I'm 

657
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not going to buy tickets to the 
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658
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What's going to end up happening
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659
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,000
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Pish, the entire Simply Bitcoin 

660
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Breedlove, Mark Moss, Pubby 

661
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Tatum, All your friends are 
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662
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And the last thing that you want

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664
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It's like literally they can't 

665
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669
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Over 1000 bitcoiners are 

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673
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All right, everybody, let's hit 
the news. 

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700
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701
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Like it makes spending Bitcoin 
from cold storage incredibly 

702
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simple. 
So check it out today. 

703
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,760
You can check out the QR code or
check the link in the video 

704
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,560
description. 
Anyways, you guys are going to 

705
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880
kill me, but I'm going to do it 
anyways. 

706
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,240
I love this book. 
I think it's not predicting 

707
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,600
exactly what's going to happen, 
but I like the philosophy and 

708
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,720
kind of like the theory behind 
how they made a lot of these 

709
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,200
predictions. 
And I think so far that theory 

710
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,280
has been proven right. 
So I always kind of give a 

711
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,000
little bit of of sovereign 
individual thesis and quotes 

712
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,760
before we get on to some of the 
news segments because if you see

713
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,600
the news segments by themselves 
standing on by, standing by 

714
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,040
themselves, you don't connect 
the dots, you don't understand 

715
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,320
what is fully happening. 
I truly believe we're we are 

716
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040
transitioning into this era of I
called the great 

717
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,720
disintermediation of of just the
great disintermediation. 

718
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,440
I think two things are 
happening. 

719
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,720
First, the great 
disintermediation of 

720
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,880
information, massive 
peer-to-peer communications on a

721
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:55,440
worldwide level has completely 
hindered the ability for mass 

722
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,120
narrative control. 
I think that's the first step. 

723
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,840
I think the interview that not, 
I think I know the interview 

724
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,200
with Tucker and Mike Benz was 
was so phenomenal. 

725
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,600
I can't emphasize enough how 
much you guys have to watch that

726
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,360
interview, literally to the 
point where if you search for it

727
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,280
on YouTube, it won't pop up. 
You have to search for it on 

728
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,120
Google and then we'll take you, 
then it will take you to the 

729
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,120
YouTube video. 
But basically he was making the 

730
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,760
case that governments were not 
prepared for social media. 

731
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,120
They were just not. 
It's it's get it's caught them 

732
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,240
flat footed completely and then 
their attempt to censor 

733
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,080
information, you know, and 
that's this has been leaked 

734
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,880
through the Twitter files. 
More information has been linked

735
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,880
that, you know, the government 
has asked YouTube, Facebook, all

736
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,800
these platforms to censor 
certain types of speech, to 

737
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,320
throttle certain types of 
speech. 

738
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,840
I think it's an indication of 
what I'm saying. 

739
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,720
And then what we're 
transitioning slowly into is the

740
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,320
the disintermediation of money, 
which I think will have even 

741
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,520
more consequence in the great 
disintermediation of 

742
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,800
information. 
Now all of that being said, you 

743
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,400
have to prepare for what's to 
come. 

744
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,080
How do you prepare for what's to
come? 

745
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,480
First, take Bitcoin into self 
custody. 

746
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
Second, probably a good idea. 
To run a Bitcoin node, obviously

747
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,760
I recommend the one that I run, 
which is the start 9. 

748
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,640
There's a promo code down in the
video description, go to 

749
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,320
start9.com and of course 
Sovereign computing goes into 

750
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,480
this. 
Noster goes into this right, 

751
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,680
which is completely censorship 
resistant social media and it 

752
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,320
when you have these types of 
tools that governments cannot 

753
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,080
shut down, they cannot censor, 
it kind of becomes a forcing 

754
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,560
function in a way where they 
they have to like because they 

755
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,560
can't shut it down, they have to
kind of live with it. 

756
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,080
And if they're living with it, I
don't think that you know, the 

757
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,600
approved narrative or Fiat 
money, you know, can withstand 

758
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,840
truth, can withstand 
competition. 

759
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,440
And I think that's what we're 
starting to see the first 

760
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,880
inklings of, you know, and I'll 
and I'll give multiple examples 

761
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120
of that. 
But before we do that, I do want

762
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,880
to read some passages from one 
of my favorite books. 

763
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Not my favorite book, but one of
my favorite books, the Sovereign

764
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Individual. 
So first, in the new Millennium,

765
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,440
cyber money controlled by 
private markets will supersede 

766
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120
Fiat money issued by 
governments. 

767
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,000
The authors have also predicted 
that with the rise of this new 

768
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,200
cyberspace and consequently 
cyber money will become harder 

769
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
for a nation state to collect 
taxes from its citizens. 

770
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Now when they say taxes, it's 
not only income tax. 

771
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,520
We'll get to that in a second. 
But it's also tax via inflation,

772
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,880
which I think is a more 
insidious tax. 

773
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,800
I think it's a tax that, like, 
people are just not aware of, 

774
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000
you know, when I see them 
clapping or when they see, you 

775
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,040
know, I walked around my 
neighborhood and I literally 

776
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,000
saw, you know, literal flags and
flags of flags of like, you 

777
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,880
know, things of saying like, 
look, I support this war in 

778
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,920
Ukraine or I support this war in
Israel and I support and 

779
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,600
whatever. 
And it's like look like if you 

780
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,440
take a look at 2023, you know 
the US government spent $1.7 

781
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,000
trillion more than it collected 
in tax revenue 1.7 trillion. 

782
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,760
Where is that money coming from?
They're printing the difference.

783
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,760
People don't understand that 
they are paying for it through 

784
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,560
currency debasement, right? 
It's this kind of the SIOP 

785
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,040
thing. 
This is like you know you have a

786
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,880
whole you have a whole stadium 
of of of kids literally you know

787
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
and Matt's saying what I I agree
with this point. 

788
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,320
It's not appropriate setting but
they're literally like booing at

789
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,440
this thing like they don't know 
we we still have so much work to

790
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,120
do in regards to this topic. 
Anyways I got a little bit 

791
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,960
sidetracked. 
Anyways, it goes on to say they 

792
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,120
compared the state to a farmer 
keeping cows in the field to be 

793
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,760
milked, but that soon the cows 
will have wings. 

794
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,600
They predict that for the 
government to collect taxes from

795
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,320
its citizens in this type of 
society, it would have to 

796
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,920
violate human rights. 
Even traditionally civil 

797
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,680
countries will have to resort 
and turn nasty. 

798
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,880
And it goes on to say, lacking 
their custom scope to tax and 

799
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
inflate, governments even in 
traditionally civil countries 

800
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,800
will turn nasty. 
Businesses that offer the 

801
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,960
services that facilitate the 
realization of autonomy by 

802
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,560
individuals will be subject to 
infiltration, sabotage, and 

803
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,640
disruption. 
Arbitrary forfeiture of 

804
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,720
property, already commonplace in
the United States where it 

805
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,880
occurs 5000 times a week, will 
become even more pervasive. 

806
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,240
Governments will violate human 
rights, censor the free flow of 

807
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:22,200
information, sabotage, useful 
technologies, and worse. 

808
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,800
And I can't help but to, in my 
mind reference the name Buchelli

809
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,680
article where it's called Don't 
Drink the Elite Kool-aid, where 

810
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,560
he says their most important 
weapon, the most powerful 

811
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,760
weapon, is their control on the 
truth. 

812
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,880
Now all of that being said, 
there's a lot of examples of 

813
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,480
this specific of this of these 
specific passages, so 

814
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,320
infiltration, sabotage and 
disruption. 

815
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,280
So the US government basically 
by starting with tornado cash, 

816
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,520
setting the precedent that all 
of a sudden the US Treasury has 

817
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,400
the power to open to sanction 
open source software, they set 

818
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,320
the precedent less than, you 
know, nine months later they 

819
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,160
started arresting Bitcoin 
privacy developers. 

820
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,000
And of course, I'm talking about
the Samurai guys once again 

821
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,560
setting the precedent and again,
not through the legislative 

822
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,040
process, but the US government 
has been able to successfully, 

823
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,800
you know, destroy mixing without
having to pass any type of 

824
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,400
legislation basically through it
through enforcement instead. 

825
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Which you know, of course, this 
is law fair, this is State Fair,

826
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,520
this is what they're talking 
about, right? 

827
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:39,720
They're trying to impose the 
existing surveillance system on 

828
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,520
top of Bitcoin. 
And anyone who you know, 

829
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,440
basically goes outside of that 
system, they'll make an example 

830
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,800
of. 
And of course, I don't like to 

831
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,360
talk kindly about Rodger Ver 
because of what happened with 

832
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,360
Bitcoin Cash. 
But at the end of the day, you 

833
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,120
know, his arrest was basically 
sending a message to everyone, 

834
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,880
basically saying, look, it 
doesn't matter whether you gave 

835
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,000
up your US citizenship, you 
know, it doesn't matter if you 

836
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,920
broke these laws five years ago,
breaking the laws in the sense 

837
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,840
of not paying taxes, the exit 
tax supposedly was what he was 

838
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,760
charged for. 
We will find you. 

839
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,280
It doesn't matter where you are.
You know, Uncle Sam, we'll get 

840
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,680
you and we'll put you in a box 
and we'll make an example out of

841
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,400
you, Mind you. 
Right. 

842
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,000
You know, whether it's in the 
case of the samurai guys, like 

843
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,040
who are the biggest money 
launderers? 

844
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Banks. 
What do they get? 

845
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,480
What are the consequences for 
them breaking those types of 

846
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,840
laws? 
They get fines, right? 

847
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Remember, no banker went to 8. 
No, no banker went to jail for 

848
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,720
2008, even though I think that 
had a much worse effect on 

849
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:47,280
society than anything that the 
Samurai wallet guys did, 

850
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,080
anything that the tornado cash 
guys did. 

851
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,640
And then this is what I want to 
talk about today because this 

852
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,920
news just dropped. 
And I think again, it's another 

853
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,880
reflection of how the state sees
you, how the government sees 

854
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,720
you. 
And this is in the case of 

855
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,960
Canada. 
So there, Canada's proposing a 

856
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:10,800
$25,000 penalty plus A2 times 
exit tax to citizens who leave 

857
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,920
the country. 
The, you know, the person who 

858
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,600
initially tweeted this says, 
I've been warning you, modern 

859
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,240
feudalism is coming to Western 
countries. 

860
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,880
I would even make the case that 
it's not. 

861
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,440
It's already here. 
Right? 

862
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,880
And what's really interesting 
about the sovereign individual 

863
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,840
is that when they were writing 
that book, it, they initially 

864
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,680
passed the first exit tax in the
US and they were basically 

865
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,240
theorizing that this was going 
to be used against Americans 

866
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:39,520
down the road. 
Right. 

867
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,480
And the whole idea, the whole 
premise of an exit tax for 

868
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,960
anyone who's not aware is this 
idea that what if you leave the 

869
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,600
country, right? 
You say, I'm going to give, I'm 

870
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,000
going to renounce my 
citizenship. 

871
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,120
You have to, per SE, You have to
pay 50% of your net worth to the

872
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,320
US government. 
Right. 

873
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,960
So again, you know, you took the
risk, you made the money, you 

874
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,920
made the whatever. the US 
government feels entitled to 50%

875
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,280
of that. 
Now that's the law, right? 

876
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,160
I can't argue that's the law. 
It's my opinion. 

877
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,080
I think it's an unjust law, but 
I think we're going to start to 

878
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,120
see more and more people flee, 
you know, unfavorable tax 

879
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,200
jurisdictions. 
Now here's the official, here's 

880
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,440
the official proposal. 
So it says Canada proposes 25K 

881
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,920
departure penalty and increase 
taxes to curb immigration crisis

882
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,760
in a bid to address a growing 
immigration crisis. 

883
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,960
The Canadian government under 
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is

884
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,240
reportedly discussing 
significant measures to deter 

885
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:37,800
citizens from leaving the 
country. 

886
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,480
According to insider insider 
sources, the proposed strategy 

887
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,920
includes a $25,000 departure 
penalty along with a doubling of

888
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,760
the exiting departure tax for 
those seeking to relocate 

889
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,760
abroad. 
This approach ends to stain to 

890
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,800
stem the tide of Canadians 
moving overseas amidst ongoing 

891
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,120
national crisis in housing 
inflation, affordability, 

892
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,960
education, productivity and 
climate. 

893
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,280
OK, so you can make a very 
strong case that they are 

894
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,120
responsible for a lot of these 
so-called crises, right? 

895
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,760
It's definitely inflation. 
You can make that. 

896
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,880
You can make an argument that 
they're responsible for the 

897
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,160
housing issues. 
You could definitely make the 

898
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,200
case that they're responsible 
for, for the educational aspect,

899
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,840
for the affordability aspect. 
Now instead of facing the 

900
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,440
consequences, what do they do? 
Exactly what the sovereign 

901
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,240
individual says literally taking
people hostage, trying to take 

902
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,680
an entire country hostage. 
It goes on to say the 

903
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,960
discussions are still 
confidential, with details yet 

904
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,840
to be publicly confirmed as the 
government explores options to 

905
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,320
maintain, maintain its 
population and stabilize the 

906
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,160
country's situation. 
Now you know they they did 

907
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,760
propose, and this is public, a 
6067% capital gains tax. 

908
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,200
And in the US, you know, if 
Biden gets elected, a 44% 

909
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,640
capital gains tax, right. 
So you know, it's just it's just

910
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120
interesting how all of this is 
playing out. 

911
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,880
And again, you know, I I I think
it would if Bitcoin didn't 

912
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,440
exist, man, you know, it would 
be a pretty Dark World because 

913
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,600
it's just these governments, 
these these states feel like 

914
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,720
they're entitled to you. 
You know, I think that the book,

915
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:20,360
when they said, you know they 
see basically a citizen like a 

916
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,000
cattle and they have the ability
to milk them, I think is a very,

917
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,240
very accurate description in the
way that they see you. 

918
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,560
And I think the Internet has 
basically, you know started the 

919
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,160
the freedom flame and then 
Bitcoin came along and put a a 

920
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,680
giant gallon drum of gasoline 
and just poured it on there and 

921
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,840
they just ignited this fire and 
they're they don't know how to 

922
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,640
react to it. 
They don't know how to because 

923
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,640
their their monopoly on violence
doesn't have the return that it 

924
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,280
used to. 
And it's just very, very 

925
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,080
interesting to say the least. 
Anyways, that's my take. 

926
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:54,760
Matt, what's your take on all 
this? 

927
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,920
Are you seeing what I'm seeing, 
or am I seeing things that are 

928
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,200
not there? 
I mean, it's hard to argue with 

929
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,520
what is there and in front of 
our eyes. 

930
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,400
So this is definitely happening.
It does accord with the thesis 

931
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,400
of the sovereign individual. 
It makes sense given the nature 

932
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,760
of government and Fiat money and
you know how these systems 

933
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,560
function that they would, you 
know, want to restrict 

934
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,920
expatriation because it is 
removing productive energy and 

935
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,960
value from the economy. 
And you know, for the US you 

936
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,200
had, you had brought it up, your
numbers were a little off. 

937
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,640
So for the US, the tax is 
somewhere in the 23% range. 

938
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,840
That's 20% capital gains. 
Basically, the US treats it as 

939
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,680
if you renounce your 
citizenship. 

940
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,160
It's as though you sold all your
assets in that moment, and so 

941
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,640
you owe capital gains taxes on 
them. 

942
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,720
It's basically taxing unrealized
capital gains at the moment of 

943
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,960
renunciation, plus an added like
3% fee or whatever. 

944
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,800
So it's not 50%. 
I'm not saying that 23% is good.

945
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,720
It's criminal. 
That should be 0 of course, but 

946
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:18,720
secondly it it only effects 
certain individuals, so you have

947
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:23,120
to meet a particular criteria to
be taxed for renouncing your 

948
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,000
citizenship. 
You have to either have over 2 

949
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,680
million in assets or you have to
have made the equivalent of like

950
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:38,280
4 or $500,000 per year for the 
previous five years to to be. 

951
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,080
I just showed. 
I just showed that connection 

952
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,360
was lost. 
Am I still here? 

953
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,960
You're still, you're still here.
Cool. 

954
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,640
So again, not excusing it in any
way, just adding a little bit of

955
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,920
context to the to the whole 
situation. 

956
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040
It's not that it universally 
applies to everyone, it only 

957
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,040
applies to high net worth and 
net earners. 

958
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,360
And it is 23%, not 50%. 
All that said, fuck em. 

959
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,280
That is ridiculous human rights 
violation in my opinion. 

960
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,000
We're free people and we should 
be able to go wherever we want, 

961
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,400
you know? 
If not, then we're we're not 

962
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,720
free. 
So I'm against it, but it's 

963
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:23,960
coming and it's probably coming 
to most countries and and yeah, 

964
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,480
it won't work long term, but it 
will definitely affect people's 

965
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,600
lives before it doesn't work. 
It will work right for a while, 

966
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,880
and on many people. 
It will prevent people from 

967
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,160
moving, or it'll cost people in 
in real, meaningful amounts of 

968
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,080
money who do leave. 
Yeah, I I 100% agree with you 

969
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,240
and I think you know them. 
Making an example of Rodger Ver 

970
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,320
is just like just them saying 
like, look like you can't escape

971
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Uncle Sam. 
Like it doesn't matter where you

972
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,760
are, it doesn't matter where you
are around the world, You know, 

973
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,800
if you don't pay this exit tax, 
if you don't pay your pound of 

974
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,000
flesh, you know, we're going to 
put you in a box essentially. 

975
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,520
So, Opti, what's your take on 
this, brother? 

976
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,760
And then we'll get on to the 
culture. 

977
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,440
Yeah, well, I mean, I think 
especially for us here, we cover

978
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,760
the news every single day. 
But it's becoming clearer and 

979
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,120
clearer that the powers that be 
want to keep us in digital 

980
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,200
slavery. 
And hopefully more people are 

981
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,680
waking up to the illegitimacy of
these institutions. 

982
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,840
And you know, the more they 
push, the more I think there 

983
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,960
will be an opposite reaction and
people start to wake up to how 

984
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,720
crazy things really are getting.
But I think you did, you did 

985
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,800
start with the conversation of 
Tiger Carlson and Mike bands. 

986
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,720
And I think this is just another
shining, an example of the power

987
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,680
of peer-to-peer communications. 
And it's shown that the powers 

988
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,960
that be have lost control. 
Hence why they're getting more 

989
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,280
and more desperate and trying to
control not only communication 

990
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,600
and censorship on the Internet, 
but also your capital. 

991
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,800
They're trying to instill as 
much capital controls as 

992
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,240
possible because like Matt was 
saying, you know, if they push 

993
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,360
too hard, people are just going 
to get up and leave. 

994
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,680
And so it's not surprising that 
they're going to make examples 

995
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,120
of people. 
It's not surprising that they're

996
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,920
going to continue to make 
examples of people. 

997
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,160
And I'm not surprised that 
they're trying to control 

998
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,680
capital. 
We've seen this happen. 

999
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,360
We've seen this play out in 
history many, many times. 

1000
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,920
And you know, the powers that be
are going to continue to try to 

1001
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,560
do this. 
So it's because everyone knows 

1002
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,360
that there is only two votes 
that really matter and it is 

1003
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,040
with your feet and with your 
pocketbook. 

1004
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,680
So once they try to stop you 
from moving and they try to 

1005
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000
control your capital, you know 
how desperate things are 

1006
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
getting. 
And so it is a really defining 

1007
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,920
moment, I think in the history 
of humanity at large that things

1008
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,640
are heating up because the 
powers that be are desperate. 

1009
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,200
Hence why they are trying to 
censor information, Hence why 

1010
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,240
they're trying to control 
capital is because they have 

1011
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,040
lost that control, or rather are
losing that control and people 

1012
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,000
are waking up and people are 
having these conversations and 

1013
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,960
people are at at the very least 
starting to push back against 

1014
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,920
their narratives and this is 
absolutely terrifying them. 

1015
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,880
So I'm not surprised that Canada
is doing this. 

1016
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,280
Let's not forget that Canada is 
usually a test bed for extremely

1017
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,400
bad ideas. 
And so like Matt was saying, 

1018
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,240
don't be naive out there and 
thinking that oh, this won't 

1019
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,160
happened in the US or this won't
happen in my country. 

1020
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,720
It just be prepared for this to 
come to a country near you 

1021
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,880
because we know that this has 
happened before. 

1022
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,400
They'll do stuff in Canada and 
then they'll try to export that 

1023
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,760
everywhere else. 
So if this is happening in in 

1024
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,480
Canada, then it's most likely 
going to happen in the US We are

1025
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,920
seeing it happen in other 
Western countries already. 

1026
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,640
So this is, this is one of those
moments where if you have 

1027
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,680
studied any amount of history, 
you know that this was going to 

1028
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,080
happen when an empire starts to 
crumble, when people start to 

1029
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,600
lose faith in these 
institutions, when the 

1030
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,480
institutions start to lose their
legitimacy, they always do the 

1031
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,640
same thing. 
They try to crack down on people

1032
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,000
having these conversations and 
they also try to crack down on 

1033
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,600
your capitol and basically force
you into now it's digital 

1034
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,920
slavery, but in the past it 
would just be just straight up 

1035
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,600
slavery and and make you, you 
know, one of their one of their 

1036
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,160
cattle or chattel as the meme 
goes. 

1037
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,360
And so I'm not surprised that 
this is happening. 

1038
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,800
Canada is, I think has a long 
history of doing extremely bad 

1039
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,600
things to their people and the 
people just being too nice to 

1040
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,320
say anything. 
So I I'm not surprised that this

1041
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,040
is happening. 
Obviously when you take this in 

1042
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,680
the context of everything 
happening in the world, it it's 

1043
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,160
like Maddow he says it's this is
exactly, you know, par for the 

1044
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,280
course of what empires do when 
they start to lose that power. 

1045
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,960
They clamp down on their 
citizens And so let's not let's 

1046
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120
not be surprised when this 
happens everywhere else because 

1047
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,640
it's going to happen. 
They're going to try to clamp 

1048
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,680
down on you guys moving freely 
on your capitol. 

1049
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,920
They got to keep you in the in 
the in the ranch, they got to 

1050
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,640
keep you in the cattle. 
They got to keep you in the 

1051
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,520
plantation for lack of better 
terms because that's where they 

1052
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,000
get their power from is by 
people believing they still have

1053
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,040
legitimacy and controlling human
conversations and human movement

1054
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,280
which comes with the control of 
capital. 

1055
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,120
So I'm not surprised but man 
Canada just absolutely wrecking 

1056
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,680
their citizens. 
It's it's it must be bad being a

1057
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,400
Canadian right now. 
All right guys, before we get on

1058
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Yeah, great. 

1100
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,000
So, Matt, I do wanna start. 
We're gonna talk about START 9, 

1101
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,320
the new product you just 
released. 

1102
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,400
But I really enjoyed your why 
are we bullish with Sessions? 

1103
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,000
I think it was last week and in 
the face of everything we're 

1104
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,280
seeing going on in the Bitcoin 
space, I think it's a good PSAA 

1105
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,840
good message to spread to our 
audience as well. 

1106
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,040
So what's your take on 
everything going on and why are 

1107
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,800
you still bullish on Bitcoin? 
Yeah, thanks. 

1108
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
That was quite the rip I was on 
one that night got really 

1109
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,080
heated, like just passionate. 
So 'cause this was in the midst 

1110
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,480
of, you know, the Samurai and 
Phoenix announcements. 

1111
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,040
So first of all, you know, that 
was a session called Why Are we 

1112
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,360
Bullish? 
And so I was bringing up these 

1113
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,520
horrible things as a means of 
being bullish for two reasons, 

1114
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,200
really. 
One is because they are entirely

1115
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,200
predictable and expected, right?
So when you're fighting a battle

1116
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,240
and your opponent does something
that you expected them to do, 

1117
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,560
regardless of how horrible it 
is, doesn't mean you should feel

1118
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,680
good about it. 
But you you also shouldn't, 

1119
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,960
like, be devastated by it, 
right? 

1120
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,400
You knew that they were going to
do this. 

1121
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,120
It doesn't mean that when it 
happens you, you know are happy 

1122
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,280
about it, but you knew it was 
coming. 

1123
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,280
And so it's part of the plan. 
You you can deal with this. 

1124
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,240
I personally, and maybe others 
didn't see this coming. 

1125
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,160
I did. 
I I couldn't imagine a future 

1126
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,320
where Samurai was going to 
continue being able to do what 

1127
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,480
they had been doing. 
It just doesn't make sense in my

1128
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,400
understanding of how the 
government's function. 

1129
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,000
You know, Samurai's argument 
rightfully was that this was 

1130
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,680
legal. 
What they were doing was within 

1131
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,000
the law. 
And so therefore they can do it.

1132
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,760
And my response to that is like,
yeah, but laws are just made by 

1133
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,240
the same people that enforce 
them. 

1134
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,360
Like, they're just going to 
change the law. 

1135
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,400
They're going to change the 
interpretation of the law. 

1136
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,120
And yes, while that there's 
easier said than done, because 

1137
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,080
hopefully there's still some 
semblance of like a judicial 

1138
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,640
system and courts have authority
that actually matters. 

1139
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,360
But as you know, the 
centralization of power 

1140
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,320
progresses, that type of stuff 
matters less and less, right? 

1141
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Eventually, the centralization 
force results in dictatorship. 

1142
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,720
That is the end game of all sort
of government. 

1143
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,120
Evolution is dictatorship, at 
which point courts don't matter 

1144
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
at all, right? 
A person and that person's 

1145
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,320
entourage can essentially just 
change laws on a Women enforce 

1146
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,440
those laws arbitrarily. 
And that is the inevitable kind 

1147
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,520
of conclusion of every one of 
these stories throughout 

1148
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,960
history. 
And often times they don't make 

1149
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,680
it that far. 
They fall apart before then. 

1150
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,520
But that is the trajectory. 
And so I'm like, there's no 

1151
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,800
future where they're just going 
to keep letting you do this, 

1152
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,320
right? 
They'll just change the law. 

1153
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Even if that's not legal to do, 
who cares? 

1154
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,680
They'll change that law. 
The law that made it illegal to 

1155
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,160
change the law will be changed, 
right? 

1156
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,560
So at some point, if you're 
doing something that is 

1157
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:46,560
distasteful to the existing 
power elite, the incumbents, 

1158
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,760
you're not going to keep getting
away with it. 

1159
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,760
At some point you are either 
going to have to defend 

1160
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,760
yourself, right? 
You're going to have to take a 

1161
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,280
stand and fight back, or you're 
going to have to stop doing it. 

1162
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,080
That could mean continuing to do
it from a different location, 

1163
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,000
which is a form of defense, 
right? 

1164
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,320
That is a legitimate form of 
defense. 

1165
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,480
So I would actually put that in 
the first category. 

1166
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,080
So really you have two choices. 
If you're doing something 

1167
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,120
distasteful, whether it's 
illegal or illegal, eventually 

1168
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,080
you will have two choices. 
You will either stop doing it 

1169
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,960
completely or you will defend 
your right to do it effectively.

1170
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,280
And so that was sort of the PSA 
that I put out was to anybody 

1171
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,720
out there, myself included, who 
is doing something that will 

1172
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,200
eventually and is currently will
eventually be distasteful to 

1173
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,640
incumbents. 
You better be prepared to do one

1174
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,160
of those things, either stop 
doing it or fight back. 

1175
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,960
And by fight back, I don't mean 
violence necessarily. 

1176
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,840
I just mean effective defense, 
right? 

1177
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,480
The ability to defend yourself 
through hiding, running, 

1178
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,360
fighting, whatever it happens to
be. 

1179
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:58,120
And there's various categories 
here, right? 

1180
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,920
Like what Samurai was doing was 
blatantly sort of antagonistic 

1181
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,160
towards the incumbent powers, 
right? 

1182
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,440
They were like openly 
advertising, like come to our 

1183
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,520
servers. 
And here you can mix money in 

1184
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,440
order to, you know, evade 
surveillance, which is a 

1185
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,160
wonderful thing. 
It's privacy, right? 

1186
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,960
Financial privacy. 
We all deserve that. 

1187
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,320
In my opinion. 
It's a human right, but it is 

1188
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,640
blatantly against what the 
government wants and they were 

1189
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,400
thumbing their their noses in it
as well. 

1190
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,240
And so it kind of added up to me
that this happened, right, Like 

1191
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,720
you got to make an example of 
somebody you got to, you know, 

1192
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,680
whether it was legal what the 
government did to Samurai or not

1193
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,280
is kind of, it's not irrelevant.
It's just not the most important

1194
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,080
consideration. 
The most important 

1195
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,360
consideration, actually is a, 
you know, a Pirates of the 

1196
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,480
Caribbean meme that I posted 
from the start. 

1197
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,680
Nine account after this 
happened, which is the only 

1198
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,360
rules that really matter, are 
these what a man can do and what

1199
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,760
a man can't do. 
That's ultimately what lies 

1200
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,400
beneath the veil of all human 
society and legal structures is 

1201
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,720
force. 
It is can they do this? 

1202
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,040
If the answer is yes, you've 
lost. 

1203
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,640
If the answer is no, you've won.
Doesn't matter. 

1204
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,840
You can lean on, you know, 
nuance of law and loopholes and 

1205
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,040
court battles all you want, but 
at the end of the day, if they 

1206
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,120
can do it legally or illegally, 
it doesn't matter. 

1207
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,560
It doesn't matter if you're in 
the right, you'll just dye a 

1208
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,120
martyr at that point. 
But you're still going to die. 

1209
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,560
And by die, I don't necessarily 
mean like life die. 

1210
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,560
You're just you're out of 
business. 

1211
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:34,600
They're going to shut you down. 
So there's your summary of what 

1212
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:39,080
I spoke about on on why are we 
bullish with with Sessions was 

1213
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,800
you know these events were 
expected and if you're not 

1214
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,800
expecting them, you should 
expect them, which means you 

1215
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,400
should prepare for them, which 
means get your defenses in order

1216
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,360
and get your escape route in 
order. 

1217
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,640
Love it, Matt. 
Great, great. 

1218
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,240
I think it was a a great bow tie
to the conversation we had 

1219
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,960
before before we talk about what
you're building as a tool for 

1220
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:02,960
some of that defense and of 
course we're over at start 9. 

1221
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,600
So I don't know if you want to 
give again another little TLDR 

1222
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,800
of what you're building with 
start nine and then we can talk 

1223
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,240
about your latest feature drop 
which is absolutely sexy. 

1224
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,920
So I guess Matt, what is start 
nine and then we'll talk about 

1225
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:22,320
your latest product release. 
Start 9 is actually a pretty 

1226
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:29,680
boring company in that we sell 
commodity style mini PCs with an

1227
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,640
operating system pre installed 
and then we warranty and provide

1228
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,320
great customer support for that 
product. 

1229
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,440
That's Start 9, the operating 
system that comes pre installed 

1230
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,440
on these devices that we sell is
the interesting part of what we 

1231
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,200
do. 
And I say we loosely because 

1232
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,960
start OS, the operating system 
is an MIT based open source 

1233
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,920
operating system. 
Start nine has zero claim to it.

1234
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:00,640
We spend the majority of our 
time and money as individuals 

1235
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,600
working on Start OS because it's
the interesting thing that makes

1236
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,480
you know all these these cool 
features and defenses possible 

1237
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,640
for people. 
But it is not owned in any way 

1238
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,200
by Start 9 so it's effectively a
donation. 

1239
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,200
So Start OS comes pre installed 
on these devices and with Start 

1240
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:24,120
OSA normal person is now capable
of running a personal server. 

1241
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,240
And why would you want to run a 
personal server? 

1242
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,960
Because it allows you to 
effectively exist on the 

1243
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:37,000
Internet and to use computers in
such a way that no third 

1244
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:42,200
parties, trusted or otherwise, 
that no third parties are part 

1245
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,920
of your experience, that you are
self-contained and independent 

1246
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,600
in the digital realm. 
For example, if I want to text 

1247
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:56,520
message my wife, I opened up my 
phone which is a Pixel 8 running

1248
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,600
Graphene. 
I highly recommend it. 

1249
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,480
If I want to text message my 
wife, I pick up my phone, I send

1250
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,560
a text just like I would if I 
was using any other system. 

1251
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,840
It's super straightforward and 
convenient. 

1252
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,600
But that text message goes from 
my phone where it is encrypted 

1253
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,200
on. 
The device is then onion routed 

1254
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,000
around the darknet, the Tor 
network where it lands on a 

1255
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,600
server in my home which is 
sitting right next to me here. 

1256
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:27,359
The message then resides on the 
server and is relayed to my 

1257
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:31,600
wife's phone again over the 
darknet, fully encrypted, lands 

1258
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,680
at her phone where it is 
decrypted and she can read the 

1259
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,520
message and we text back and 
forth. 

1260
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,000
Obviously the experience of this
is hi hi, it's just text 

1261
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,080
messaging, but the messages are 
end to end, encrypted, onion 

1262
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,800
routed and stored on a device 
that's in my living room that 

1263
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,760
nobody on earth, including my 
ISP, the government and anybody 

1264
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,720
else has any access to. 
So it is provably, completely 

1265
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,359
trustlessly private messaging. 
Nobody even knows the 

1266
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:04,160
conversation is taking place, 
let alone has the ability to 

1267
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,000
Snoop on it or, you know, store 
it or use it to get use use it 

1268
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,720
for advertising purposes, or 
whatever. 

1269
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,960
It's just me and my wife talking
from any place on earth to any 

1270
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,160
other place on earth as though 
we were in a basement in a 

1271
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,359
Faraday cage, whispering in each
other's ears. 

1272
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,080
That's the degree of privacy 
that our computing paradigm 

1273
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,520
affords. 
Now you can apply that to pretty

1274
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,920
much any computing experience. 
It's not just text messaging, 

1275
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:29,800
right? 
You can do this with photo 

1276
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,040
sharing, data, password 
management, video calls, right? 

1277
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,920
I do conference calls like video
calls like this, sitting in 

1278
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,520
front of a computer, talking 
with multiple people in a 

1279
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,720
conference call, and all the 
electrical signals are going 

1280
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,200
from everybody's device through 
a server that I alone control, 

1281
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,960
fully encrypted. 
And so nobody on earth knows 

1282
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,120
that conference call is taking 
place, nobody can read that 

1283
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,279
conference call, and it's free 
for life because there's no 

1284
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:55,960
third party service provider to 
charge me. 

1285
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,920
It's all being run through my 
own infrastructure. 

1286
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,920
And all of this has always been 
possible, but it's always been 

1287
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,640
really, really difficult. 
You had to be a super geek to be

1288
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,320
able to set up the kind of 
computing infrastructure 

1289
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,360
necessary to achieve what I just
described. 

1290
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:17,520
Not only did you have to be a 
super geek, but you had to have 

1291
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,760
a lot of time on your hands. 
It was it was a very time 

1292
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,840
consuming, frustrating endeavor 
even for the people who are 

1293
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,560
technically competent enough to 
pull it off. 

1294
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,720
So what start OS does the open 
source operating system is? 

1295
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,760
It makes administering a server 
and setting up the kind of 

1296
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,000
infrastructure necessary to use 
computers in the way that I 

1297
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,200
described inherently private and
self hosted. 

1298
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,360
It makes it easy. 
I don't want to oversell it and 

1299
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,800
say that any old grandma down 
the street can do this. 

1300
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,600
Our level of technical 
competency that we cite as being

1301
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:58,760
necessary to to use Start OS 
effectively is that you feel 

1302
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:04,000
comfortable as an individual 
going into your settings menu on

1303
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,760
your MacBook or on your Android 
or iPhone device and making 

1304
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,000
changes. 
Like do you feel comfortable 

1305
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,120
going into the settings and 
clicking buttons and making 

1306
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,120
changes? 
And if you don't understand 

1307
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,720
something, going to Google and 
being like hey, how do I change 

1308
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,480
the light mode on my MacBook 
from dark mode? 

1309
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:26,000
Can I do that? 
If you feel competent enough to 

1310
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,200
change settings and go to Google
and look things up every once in

1311
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,560
a while you can run a Start 9 
server that runs start OS and 

1312
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,400
use it to completely eliminate. 
Google. 

1313
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:40,360
Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, all 
these cloud service providers, 

1314
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,360
all these SAS companies, you can
just eliminate them from your 

1315
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:50,600
life, effectively opting out of 
this grid that has become quite 

1316
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,880
diseased. 
You know, the Internet is a 

1317
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,560
very, very dirty place. 
And you can. 

1318
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:57,840
You don't have to live there. 
You don't. 

1319
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,240
You can get out, You can run 
your own computing 

1320
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,760
infrastructure. 
We're on your own private 

1321
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,760
clouds. 
And since we're on simply 

1322
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,520
Bitcoin, I should. 
I would be horribly remiss if I 

1323
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,200
didn't mention one of the 
primary use cases that people 

1324
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,760
buy a server for or set up their
own server is to run a Bitcoin 

1325
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:18,160
node and a lightning node so 
that they can exist on and 

1326
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,520
participate in the Bitcoin and 
lightning networks. 

1327
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,360
As a sovereign entity you are 
not using some third party 

1328
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,960
wallet providers node to send 
and receive transactions and 

1329
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,680
validate transactions. 
You are not using some LSP or 

1330
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,800
partial custodian or 
intermediary to send and receive

1331
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,640
transactions on the lightning 
network. 

1332
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,720
You exist on these networks as 
an independent you don't need 

1333
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,800
any permission, no terms and 
conditions, no possibility of 

1334
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,680
censorship 0 custodianship. 
You and you alone control your 

1335
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,960
finances and the ability to send
them to anyone, anywhere in the 

1336
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,760
world at any time that you want,
forever. 

1337
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,560
You can only achieve that degree
of power, independence, 

1338
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,840
sovereignty if you're running 
your own server. 

1339
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,680
There is no magic loophole. 
And everyone's been looking for 

1340
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,040
the magic loophole for years and
years and years. 

1341
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,400
Everyone's been platform 
hopping. 

1342
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,240
Oh you know, WhatsApp is 
compromised. 

1343
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,280
Let's move to signal Signals 
compromised. 

1344
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,240
Let's move to Telegram. 
Stop platform hopping. 

1345
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,960
Stop using platforms. 
Be your own platform. 

1346
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,680
Take the infrastructure in 
house. 

1347
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,400
We've made it easy enough for 
you to achieve. 

1348
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,640
It's getting easier by the day. 
Many people will attest to that.

1349
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,440
We have thousands and thousands 
of users all over the world 

1350
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,160
running start OS servers 
effectively and opting out of 

1351
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,640
this grid. 
And so it can be done. 

1352
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,680
It should be done. 
And if enough people do it, it's

1353
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,560
going to cause some serious 
consequences, right? 

1354
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,320
Like. 
I'll hold off. 

1355
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:56,800
In case there's any response to 
what I just said, but I actually

1356
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,400
do have like a corollary that I 
might want to get into there if 

1357
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:03,080
there's no immediate questions. 
Yeah, I mean, I I I can attest 

1358
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,400
to that. 
Just the like the ease of use. 

1359
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,680
And I, I, I, I I gotta say like 
you know I I didn't fully 

1360
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:17,560
appreciate it until I got it 
running and I got connected it. 

1361
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:23,240
I connected it with my Bitcoin 
node remotely and then then that

1362
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,800
kind of went. 
I started going down the rabbit 

1363
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,280
hole of, you know, all the other
applications that are on there, 

1364
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,400
right? 
Like the locally hosted mempool 

1365
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,440
space. 
Like, that is awesome, 'cause if

1366
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:39,040
not, like think about it every 
time you want to check, like you

1367
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,760
sent a transaction or whatever. 
Like, yeah, you might be running

1368
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,760
your own Bitcoin node, but every
time you go to 

1369
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:51,520
youknowblockstream.info or, you 
know, mempool dot space or 

1370
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,080
whatever, you're essentially 
doxing your IP address looking 

1371
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,400
for that address. 
And it just, it doesn't take a 

1372
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,200
rocket scientist to be like, OK,
I could probably have a pretty 

1373
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,520
good idea that this address 
belongs to this IP address 

1374
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,760
because of why else would they 
be looking for it, right? 

1375
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,440
So you know, the fact that you 
can do that locally on your own 

1376
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:15,320
machine is a big deal in my 
opinion. 

1377
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,440
The fact that you can connect to
it, you know, anywhere around 

1378
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:23,640
the world via Tor, I've done 
this in multiple countries is a 

1379
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,760
big deal in my opinion. 
And all the other you know 

1380
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,400
capabilities and applications 
that are going to be added to 

1381
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,640
it. 
You know, as time goes by, I'm 

1382
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,880
incredibly bullish on on 
sovereign computing. 

1383
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,040
I see the vision, I see it and I
can't recommend it. 

1384
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,600
Enough guys. 
Like try this. 

1385
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,880
You're gonna, you're gonna wanna
you're gonna wanna run your own 

1386
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,160
Bitcoin node anyway. 
So the fact that it has all 

1387
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:50,200
these, all this extra capability
I think is a is a big deal as 

1388
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,800
well. 
So I I see that Opti has, yeah, 

1389
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,120
let's. 
Talk to Server 1/20/24 edition. 

1390
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,000
I'll pull it up. 
Yeah. 

1391
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,800
So there's a new one that you 
guys just released, right Matt? 

1392
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,000
Yep. 
Yeah, that's the one. 

1393
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,000
So could you, could you tell the
audience a little bit about, you

1394
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,440
know what is the server one? 
I I I think I, I, I, I, I I 

1395
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:13,160
telegrammed you when you when 
you dropped. 

1396
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,480
I'm like dude, this is crazy. 
So could you talk a little bit 

1397
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:20,400
about what the difference is? 
You guys have two right now. 

1398
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,200
The server pier is the one. 
I personally have been loving 

1399
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:24,440
it. 
I think I got one of the first 

1400
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:26,520
editions and then the server 
one. 

1401
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,240
There's a new computing the guy,
the computing device that you 

1402
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,600
guys released at start nine. 
What is the difference between 

1403
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,440
the server one and the server 
pier? 

1404
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,920
Yeah, great. 
So the server one, we just 

1405
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,000
launched the, I should say the 
Server 1/20/24, right. 

1406
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,640
So we have the server one and 
then it has a model year. 

1407
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:50,160
So the 2023 we ran out of stock.
We now have the 2020 fours in 

1408
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,880
stock. 2020 fours are 
significantly more powerful than

1409
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,400
the 2020 ones. 
Or sorry the 2020 threes. 

1410
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:01,800
It has a Ryzen 75825 U chip 
which has an incredibly high 

1411
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,440
benchmark of like you know 
16,000 if you go to the CPU 

1412
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,120
benchmarks website. 
So it's super powerful. 

1413
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:13,040
We offered in up to 32 gigs of 
RAM, 4 terabyte NDMESSDS. 

1414
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,680
So it is a extremely capable, 
powerful computer capable of 

1415
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:21,680
running every single service on 
the marketplace with room to 

1416
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,480
spare. 
With plenty of room to spare in 

1417
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:26,440
fact. 
So it is future proofed and 

1418
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,360
immediately, you know, super 
efficient and powerful and 

1419
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,800
backed by us. 
So we warranty it, we support 

1420
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,280
the hardware, we support the 
operating system, we support 

1421
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,080
many but not all of the services
that are capable of being 

1422
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,400
installed onto the operating 
system as well. 

1423
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,920
So we really are start 9 really 
is your sort of like helping 

1424
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:51,440
hand Technical Support team and 
insurance that this is going to 

1425
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:53,800
work for you and that you're 
going to get the help that you 

1426
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,200
need. 
And that is really the reason to

1427
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,880
buy from us is you're going to 
get this plug and play 

1428
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:03,920
experience, You take it out of a
nice box, you plug it in, it 

1429
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,960
just works. 
You reach out to us if you have 

1430
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,120
any issues, we're here to help. 
That's why people buy from us. 

1431
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:14,960
You can go buy your own mini PC 
and probably save a few bucks. 

1432
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,320
Flash Start OS to it for free 
because start OS is just an MIT 

1433
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:23,960
licensed Linux distro. 
Flash it to the hardware and DIY

1434
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,920
and we have a wonderful guide 
for setting that up. 

1435
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,400
And we encourage people to do 
that, especially people outside 

1436
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,240
of the US because international 
shipping costs and customs fees 

1437
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:35,440
can be hefty. 
So we have a lot of 

1438
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:38,720
international people who just go
get a computer locally and flash

1439
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,680
start OS to it and we super 
encourage this. 

1440
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,960
And if you're happy and 
satisfied, please, you know, 

1441
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,840
throw the project a donation. 
We are an open source project, 

1442
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,080
we don't own the software at 
all, but the server one is an 

1443
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,200
awesome device. 
It's super powerful. 

1444
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,800
It'll get the job done. 
Now, as that relates to the 

1445
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,640
server Pure, the server pure is 
a unique device that is much 

1446
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:04,400
more difficult for someone to 
set up themselves because the 

1447
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,480
server Pure, as the name 
implies, is pure through the 

1448
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:14,800
entire software stack. 
It has no closed source software

1449
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,480
anywhere, all the way down 
through firmware. 

1450
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,200
So the server pure implements 
Core Boot firmware, right? 

1451
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:26,560
Core Boot is go look it up is a 
fully open source firmware that 

1452
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,280
has no closed source drivers at 
all. 

1453
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,320
There's nothing on the device 
that requires even a single 

1454
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,720
closed source BLOB of software 
to operate it. 

1455
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,560
So you can sort of rest assured 
that the device is not doing 

1456
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,440
anything that it shouldn't be. 
It's not sending some signal out

1457
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,760
to, you know, the overlords when
you're not looking. 

1458
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,520
Furthermore, the server pier 
does something that's extremely 

1459
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,120
rare in the world of computing, 
which is that it disables in 

1460
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,280
firmware. 
Intel's Management Engine. 

1461
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:02,080
This is sort of the known 
backdoor that Intel has into 

1462
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,320
pretty much every device on 
earth that's using an Intel chip

1463
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,960
and. 
How is that backdoor being used?

1464
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,560
Is it being used? 
These are all very weird 

1465
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,120
questions that you're not really
allowed to ask if you go looking

1466
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,400
on Google. 
It's nobody really knows. 

1467
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,280
And that's kind of the point is 
nobody really knows what this 

1468
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,120
thing is doing and why they are 
so insistent on keeping it on 

1469
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:28,000
every chip. 
We have managed to build a 

1470
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,160
device that runs core boot 
firmware and provably disables 

1471
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:37,560
Intel's Management Engine in 
firmware and the device is very 

1472
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,440
powerful like the server one, 
capable of running every service

1473
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,480
on the marketplace with room to 
spare. 

1474
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,840
So that is why the higher price 
point of the server pure is 

1475
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,320
because it has this open 
software stack that is not easy 

1476
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,360
to achieve. 
A lot of work went into making 

1477
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,400
that possible and so that is the
reason for the higher prices, 

1478
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,400
because we need to fund 
development of really awesome 

1479
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,120
freedom technology like this. 
And some people care, other 

1480
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,320
people don't. 
Some people are perfectly fine 

1481
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,120
running the server one. 
It's super powerful and it may 

1482
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:14,480
or may not have some deep rooted
closed source BLOB of software. 

1483
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:17,120
That's a back door to Intel deep
in the software stack. 

1484
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,560
We at start 9 have no control 
over that. 

1485
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,120
If you're using a computer, a 
laptop, a cell phone, a mini PC,

1486
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,000
it all has that same 
vulnerability. 

1487
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,000
This is not like it's something 
unique to the server one. 

1488
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:35,200
Every computer on earth has 
closed source software somewhere

1489
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,440
in the firmware and at the 
driver level, every single one 

1490
01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:39,600
of them that you buy off the 
shelf. 

1491
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,720
It is very difficult to get a 
computer to not have those 

1492
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,520
things. 
And that's what the server pier 

1493
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,720
has, is it doesn't have any of 
that closed source stuff. 

1494
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:50,920
Yeah. 
And it must have been 

1495
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,680
incredibly, incredibly difficult
to, you know, to to get the 

1496
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,160
Intel Management Engine off of 
it, I'm assuming, right? 

1497
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,960
There is a group of people, 
wonderful people on the Internet

1498
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,480
and in the open source software 
world, who work on stuff like 

1499
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:11,640
this, and we are riding on their
coattails, right? 

1500
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,960
We are we. 
We have looked up what they have

1501
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,880
discovered and we may need to 
tweak it for our own use cases 

1502
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,400
because every motherboard is 
different, every version of 

1503
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:27,160
Intel chip is different. 
Like the literal bite of code 

1504
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,320
that enables or disables Intel's
Management Engine is like 

1505
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,880
something that has to be found 
by literally scanning byte code 

1506
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,720
and like trying different ones 
to see which one disables it. 

1507
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,040
Like Intel doesn't tell you how 
to disable this shit. 

1508
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,160
And so if somebody goes out and 
they figure it out and then they

1509
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,360
publish it and they're like, hey
everyone, I I cracked the Intel 

1510
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,840
I7 whatever model and now anyone
using that chip and board 

1511
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,360
because the board matters too, 
can now use their work. 

1512
01:22:56,440 --> 01:23:01,960
So we are not inventing this, we
are just tweaking it to our own 

1513
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,840
use case. 
But it's still just work. 

1514
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,880
It's not easy to do. 
Man, and and that's first of 

1515
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,640
all, it's the power of the 
Internet, right. 

1516
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,360
The power of you know, people 
coming together, open source 

1517
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,400
software. 
It's so incredibly important. 

1518
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,200
I can't emphasize enough guys 
like this is one of the tools 

1519
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:24,200
that you can add to your arsenal
in becoming a true sovereign 

1520
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:25,160
individual. 
Right. 

1521
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,600
So first step, taking Bitcoin 
itself, self custody. 

1522
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,680
I always say that second step, 
running your own Bitcoin node. 

1523
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,520
I think the third step that I'm 
coining this today, I don't 

1524
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,800
think I've ever said this before
is, you know, getting your own 

1525
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,920
sovereign computer, right. 
I think that's the third step so

1526
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,440
that you don't have to rely on 
someone else's. 

1527
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:49,680
And I was scanning through the 
apps and I believe right not 

1528
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,120
only is there kind of like a, 
you know like a password 

1529
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:58,400
managers, there's, there's 
cloud, it's not cloud storage, 

1530
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:04,360
it's your own cloud, all right. 
So your own cloud storage 

1531
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,440
solutions, but there's also a 
private messenger as well as one

1532
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:12,600
of the applications that is that
is being offered. 

1533
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,760
So there's so many different use
cases that I'm incredibly 

1534
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,880
excited about. 
And also Matt, I know we've been

1535
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,480
talking about this for a couple 
months. 

1536
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,760
You guys are going to be 
offering clear net also as well 

1537
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,560
as as Tor? 
Yeah, we have some wonderful 

1538
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,880
things coming and we've been 
saying that for a minute, right?

1539
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,160
Like, this is this is hard. 
What we're doing is, is hard 

1540
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,760
stuff. 
You know? 

1541
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,720
My my history as a developer is 
in application development. 

1542
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,000
Like super high level stuff, you
know, like TypeScript and HTML, 

1543
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,160
like building mobile apps and 
web apps and stuff like that. 

1544
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,000
And even writing, you know, 
server side software and Node or

1545
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,920
Ruby is actually where I cut my 
teeth. 

1546
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:51,600
That's all like really easy 
shit. 

1547
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,200
It's, you know, it's, it's high 
level development, right? 

1548
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,440
Most modern developers are 
basically like frankensteining 

1549
01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:00,120
stuff. 
They're like taking this thing 

1550
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,920
that exists over here and 
putting it and then taking that 

1551
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,880
thing and putting it and then 
making it work for you. 

1552
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:08,000
It's basically just reusing 
things that have already been 

1553
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,520
invented and combining them in 
different ways, which I don't 

1554
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,920
want to you know undersell. 
It's still difficult but it's 

1555
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,640
not like gritty low level 
computer science stuff right. 

1556
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,560
That is necessary for developing
an operating system. 

1557
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,440
Start OS is a low level Linux 
based operating system and we 

1558
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:30,160
are interfacing with hardware 
and firmware and and it's, you 

1559
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,080
know, we're doing it in a novel 
way and so it just takes a 

1560
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,440
while, right? 
Like we're paving new ground 

1561
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:37,720
here. 
Nobody's ever really tried to do

1562
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,760
what we're trying to do And so 
we've made mistakes, right. 

1563
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:45,960
We have at this point rewritten,
not updated or edited, but we 

1564
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,920
have rewritten Start OS from 
scratch three Times Now. 

1565
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,200
And the reason we did that was 
because, you know, we wrote the 

1566
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,600
first one and it worked. 
But then we realized that we had

1567
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,640
the wrong architecture, we had 
fundamentally the wrong 

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01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:05,120
abstractions, and that it wasn't
going to scale in feature set in

1569
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,160
the way that we needed it to, to
be ultimately grammar friendly, 

1570
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,080
right. 
Our goal is to have this thing 

1571
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,280
be usable by anyone. 
So we were like, all right, 

1572
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,880
well, we got it wrong, let's 
redo it. 

1573
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:19,200
And so we rewrote it and it was 
way better and way more feature 

1574
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,320
full and extensible. 
And then we were like crap. 

1575
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,880
It still doesn't have the right 
abstractions, in large part 

1576
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,760
because we were leaning too much
on existing technologies to 

1577
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:38,440
handle a lot of the low level 
functionality, namely Docker and

1578
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:41,400
Avahi. 
Docker and Avahi. 

1579
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:47,600
Avahi is an MDNS component 
library that allows you to do, 

1580
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,080
like you know, dot local URLs 
and alias them and to use SNI 

1581
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,840
for host name resolution and all
the rest behind the scenes. 

1582
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:02,440
And Docker is a, you know, 
container runtime solution that 

1583
01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:06,800
is widely deployed throughout 
individual and corporate world. 

1584
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,600
And we were thought that because
these things were so like, you 

1585
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,720
know, established and widely 
used that we could, you know, 

1586
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,600
sort of grab them and use them. 
And as it turns out, they're 

1587
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:23,680
both pieces of shit software. 
Docker is a pile of shit and it 

1588
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,800
needs to die. 
And so is Avahi. 

1589
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,960
And what we did was we had to 
start looking for alternatives. 

1590
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,160
And then you find out that, 
well, there's this alternative 

1591
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,200
to Docker runtime called POD 
Man. 

1592
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,440
All right, so POD Man supposed 
to be, you know, more reliable 

1593
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,200
and you can use it, you know, in
a more kind of customizable way.

1594
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,560
So let's switch to POD Man for 
our container runtime. 

1595
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,920
And turns out POD Man's pile of 
ship too. 

1596
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,760
So now we've done this RE 
architecture and and and so 

1597
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,640
finally what we did was we just 
decided that those who came 

1598
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,040
before us, we can learn from 
them, but they are not 

1599
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,600
necessarily better or smarter 
than us. 

1600
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,040
So we should probably just come 
up with something on our own and

1601
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,640
that works better. 
And so that is what is coming 

1602
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,840
and that's what we've been 
working on is this totally novel

1603
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:14,200
approach to container runtime 
technology like basically 

1604
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,720
running containers on a Linux 
operating system in a reliable, 

1605
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,360
customizable and efficient way. 
And if you are curious about 

1606
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,000
what our strategy is, you can 
watch Aiden McClelland. 

1607
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,240
He is my Co founder and CTO. 
He gave a talk on our strategy 

1608
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,680
at Fostem over in Brussels a 
couple of months ago and that is

1609
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,520
what's coming in O36. 
So start OSO 36 which is now in 

1610
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,720
testing. 
It is running, it works. 

1611
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:44,760
It's in testing touts a new 
container runtime strategy based

1612
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,840
on Linux native containers, LXC 
containers that are multi image 

1613
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,600
based. 
This is probably too much in the

1614
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,080
weeds for a lot of listeners 
here, but some people might 

1615
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,040
appreciate it. 
So that's why I'm going this 

1616
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,240
far, but I'll back off. 
OK, so it is a LXC container 

1617
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:03,600
with multi image support which 
effectively replaces Docker 

1618
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,800
Compose where you can take 
multiple pieces of software and 

1619
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,680
orchestrate them together 
whereas Docker compose takes 

1620
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,560
multiple containers and 
orchestrates them. 

1621
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,880
Our approach is a single 
container orchestrating multiple

1622
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,520
images inside of it using Linux 
native containers which are the 

1623
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,520
most kind of customizable and 
gritty container management 

1624
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,280
system that we have. 
So anyway, that's our approach, 

1625
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,200
that's why it's taking so long. 
We get asked Win O36 daily which

1626
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,760
is why I'm spending a minute to 
explain why it's taking so long.

1627
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,280
Now the things that people care 
about right really quickly, why 

1628
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,960
are we doing all of this? 
Like what is the actual user 

1629
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,760
experience benefit that comes 
about as a result of these 

1630
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,120
changes #1 speed and 
reliability. 

1631
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,640
Your start OS is already more 
reliable, like it has better 

1632
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,440
uptime guarantees and 
reliability than every other 

1633
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:58,160
kind of plug and play, you know,
server type of solution. 

1634
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,160
And we have tons of anecdotal 
evidence from users who have 

1635
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,120
tried all the different 
platforms and been like start OS

1636
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:08,240
is the most stable. 
It's things don't crash and you 

1637
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,160
know it just works well. 
It's about to get a whole lot 

1638
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,480
better, like a huge step 
function increased better in O36

1639
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:17,880
in terms of reliability. 
It's going to be rock solid and 

1640
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,520
stable. 
It's going to be quick and 

1641
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,360
efficient. 
That's number one. 

1642
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,680
Number two is that we're, we're 
ditching Avaya, all this MDNS 

1643
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,400
aliasing bullshit, we're getting
rid of all the dot local URLs 

1644
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,720
like, oh, I launched my mem 
pool, you know, UI at this dot 

1645
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,360
local and I launched my next 
cloud at that dot local. 

1646
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,840
Those are going away and they 
are being replaced with ports on

1647
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,920
the primary dot local and IP 
address. 

1648
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:48,440
What this enables is more 
traditional VPN and clear net 

1649
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,840
hosting. 
So in O36 you will be able to 

1650
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:57,960
seamlessly easily VPN into your 
server and all of its services. 

1651
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,360
So rather than using Tor to 
connect into your server, which 

1652
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,480
is currently the only way to 
reach it while you're outside of

1653
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:07,360
your home, while you're away 
from the LAN, instead of using 

1654
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:08,840
Tor you'll also be able to use 
Tor. 

1655
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,960
That's not going away, it's just
we're adding a new option. 

1656
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,960
You will be able to turn AVPN on
your phone or laptop and connect

1657
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,920
to any service running on your 
server over using AVPN, which 

1658
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,360
will give you clear net speeds 
and is completely private 

1659
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,800
because you and you alone have 
the keys to access your local 

1660
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,600
area network via VPN. 
So that's number one. 

1661
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:37,240
Number two is clear net support.
You will be able to under the 

1662
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,400
hood. 
It won't come over the hood 

1663
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:44,480
until O four O, but in O36 you 
will be able to, using SSH, set 

1664
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:47,120
up clear net on your server. 
This means you will be able to 

1665
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:52,120
selectively choose certain 
interfaces of certain services 

1666
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,760
to host on clear net domains 
that you control. 

1667
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:59,120
For example, let's say I 
installed Ghost which is a 

1668
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,240
blogging platform similar to 
medium except self hosted. 

1669
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:06,720
So I installed Ghost on my 
server and I want my blog to be 

1670
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,280
available not only on a tour URL
for censorship resistance, but I

1671
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,680
also want it to be available at 
blog dot Matt hill dot dev. 

1672
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,240
OK, which is a domain I control 
right? 

1673
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,440
I have Matt hill dot dev so if I
want blog dot Matt hill dot dev 

1674
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:26,160
to be available to serve my 
blog, I can do that very, very 

1675
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,280
simply. 
Starting in O36 on start, OSI 

1676
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,760
will be able to go into the 
settings, make a few changes and

1677
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,240
click save. 
And I'll be hosting A blog from 

1678
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,640
my home. 
Now there are some immediate 

1679
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:42,360
kind of, you know, security and 
implications of exposing even a 

1680
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,480
single port on your home network
and all of that, all of those 

1681
01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:50,080
trade-offs and advanced measures
to make sure that your network 

1682
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,480
is secure will be published 
along with this feature so that 

1683
01:32:53,480 --> 01:32:57,760
people understand exactly what 
the trade-offs are, right? 

1684
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,280
Hosting on clear net not always 
a good idea for every service on

1685
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,800
your system because it opens you
up to denial of service attacks.

1686
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:10,840
It is no longer private, right? 
Like any authority would know 

1687
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,680
that that is your blog, right? 
Like if I host my blog on a 

1688
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,760
domain that I control, I've 
doxed myself, so that's fine. 

1689
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,880
A lot of people don't care. 
They actually want to be dox. 

1690
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,680
They want to be known. 
They're like, this is Matt's 

1691
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,800
blog, It's not a secret. 
Other people who want to remain 

1692
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:29,280
Nims need to take more advanced 
measures to remain private and 

1693
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,160
anonymous, or not private but 
anonymous in their hosting 

1694
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,520
strategies, and we will have 
guides for how you can do that 

1695
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,200
so. 
Yeah, it's all coming, dude. 

1696
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,800
I am. 
I'm so excited. 

1697
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,960
I'm so hyped. 
You know with what Start Nine is

1698
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,360
doing it doing over there always
have been, always been a 

1699
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:52,480
supporter of of Matt and the 
incredible, the incredible 

1700
01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:55,640
project that is Start 9. 
The hardware and the software 

1701
01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:00,440
and guys go go check it out. 
start9.com you can use, you can 

1702
01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:03,920
use promo code simply Bitcoin 
and get I think 9% off. 

1703
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,920
And I'm incredibly excited about
not only the software updates 

1704
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,560
but the hardware updates to 
come. 

1705
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,600
Every time I interact with Matt 
I always think about the meme 

1706
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,600
from Futurama which is just, you
know, take my money. 

1707
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:23,120
So anyways, Matt, it's been an 
honor to have you on Simply 

1708
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,920
Bitcoin Live. 
We appreciate you and thank you 

1709
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,920
for coming on today. 
Always an honor to be on, Nico. 

1710
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,920
Appreciate you Matt great show 
here thanks man guys if you if 

1711
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,800
you if you enjoyed the show you 
know what to do smash the like 

1712
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,200
button consider subscribing. 
If you feel like we provided you

1713
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,120
value go check out our guests 
project start 9. 

1714
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,200
Go follow him on Twitter at Matt
Hill under score I believe. 

1715
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,400
And guys, if you enjoyed the 
show, you know to do smash the 

1716
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:48,520
like button, consider 
subscribing. 

1717
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,000
And of course, the number one 
thing you could do to help push 

1718
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,360
the peaceful Bitcoin revolution 
is not only share Bitcoin media,

1719
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,480
right? 
Projects like start nine. 

1720
01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:59,640
They play a very important role 
in the separation of money and 

1721
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,280
state, the the 
disintermediation, the rise of 

1722
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,080
sovereign individuals. 
So check it out anyways. 

1723
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,760
Love you all. 
We'll be back tomorrow for brand

1724
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:12,640
new episode of Simply Bitcoin. 
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1725
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