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Yo, did the world's largest 
country and BRICS nations just 

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officially ditched the US dollar
to adopt A new currency? 

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Well, another bombshell against 
the dollar has been dropped at 

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the BRICS summit yesterday, and 
rumors are circulating that 

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maybe, just maybe, the BRICS are
about to create a new currency. 

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We've been hearing these rumors.
We even got a visual of this, 

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but dare we speculate and say 
that we might see the BRICS 

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nations formally adopt Bitcoin? 
We don't know yet, but before. 

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You call us. 
Crazy. 

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You're calling me crazy. 
And before you, we play this 

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video of Putin yesterday at the 
BRICS summits denouncing the 

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dollar. 
Let's not forget the BRICS 

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countries are all almost 
entirely interested in Bitcoin. 

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We have old BRICS countries like
China, of course, the Hong Kong 

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ETS been approved. 
Hash powers coming back online 

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in China. 
Russia's legalizing Bitcoin 

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mining. 
India's pivoting on its Bitcoin 

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stance. 
Brazil's new bank is the largest

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digital asset bank in the world 
right now. 

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And Sailor met with a central 
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2023. 
And of course we have South 

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Africa home to Bitcoin and Kazi.
So there is a lot of interest in

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regards to Bitcoin in BRICS 
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But does that mean they're going
to adopt Bitcoin yet? 

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No, but we're going to break 
this down for you guys because 

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they're talking about a new 
international payment system. 

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Obviously there's been a lot of 
concerns about Russia and 

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getting kicked off SWIFT and all
that good stuff. 

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And we have even more 
interesting stories, which I'll 

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play for you from BRICS 
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So let's play you this video 
that we got yesterday from the 

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BRICS Summit about Putin talking
about the US dollar, which is 

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something we always talk about 
here, and the nefarious nature 

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of the US dollar payment system.
Very much. 

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Madame Rousseff, you said that 
the dollar was used as a weapon.

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It is true and we see that. 
I think it is a great mistake by

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those who do it since the use of
the dollar, which is still the 

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most important tool in global 
finance and it's use as a 

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political tool, undermines trust
in this currency, thereby 

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reducing its capabilities. 
We are not the ones who do that,

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it's others. 
We are not rejecting the dollar,

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fighting against it, but if they
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else should we do? 
We should seek other 

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alternatives and this is exactly
what we do. 

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We aspire to cooperation, but 
still we should understand that 

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the longer we'll live and work 
under someone else's rules and 

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on someone else's platforms, the
longer the transition will take 

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to build a new fair economic 
financial system and the more 

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turbulence we will experience, 
including those that we now 

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witness in the Middle East. 
We'll talk to our colleagues 

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about this later. 
Thank you very much for your 

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work. 
So anyone that hasn't been 

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sleeping under a rock. 
Has. 

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Probably gotten to the point 
that we talked about here 

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constantly about what has 
happened with the US dollar and 

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it being weaponized against our 
enemies. 

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You can argue that's good or 
bad, it's just that's the facts 

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of the matter. 
And This is why as a Bitcoin 

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channel. 
We are always. 

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Talking about the importance of 
having a non sovereign money, 

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something that no one can 
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It's a equal playing field for 
everyone. 

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And again, like I was saying, 
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are taking some pretty good 
Bitcoin stances as well. 

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Ethiopia, their government's 
been mining Bitcoin. 

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Iran's been mining Bitcoin for 
years. 

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Turkey, Ergodon, forgive me, has
been meeting with Buchelli in 

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2023. 
And of course, they have rampant

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inflation. 
So as Russia has been slowly 

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kicked off, the dollar kicked 
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frozen. 
It looks like they don't care 

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anymore and are making calls for
a new international payment 

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system. 
Again, I do have some pictures 

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here and I'm not alone. 
I got my boy Dante Cook, AKA the

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host of Bitcoin simply one of 
our new content creators. 

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So Dante, good to have you here.
Let me just break down a couple 

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more of these headlines and then
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and I'll go back and forth. 
So this article came out from 

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the Guardian obviously kind of 
painting this as a bad thing 

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Again, they they are an American
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So there is some concerns here 
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from the BRICS nations 
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But the headline here Putin 
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international payment system at 
BRICS summit, Russian presidents

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go to dollarized world economy 
alarms member that do not want 

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bloc to turn against West and 
moving down a little bit. 

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Russia is working on creating a 
settlement and payment 

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infrastructure that would bypass
the SWIFT payment system based 

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in Belgium. 
The De Dollarization initiative 

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is probably the most concrete 
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the summit. 
That has been a remarkable 

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forgiving Putin his biggest 
international platform since, of

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course, February 2022. 
You guys know why and this last,

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this last quote here before I 
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know, potential, you know, 
symbolic gesture of announcing a

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new currency coming out from the
BRICS nation we have. 

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Agatha Demarius, a sanctions 
specialist at the European 

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Council of Foreign Relations, 
said at this stage it is hard to

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imagine a widespread development
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tools globally. the US dollar's 
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currency landscape is entrenched
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foreign exchange reserves. 
More than 80% of global trade 

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transactions are invoiced in 
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accounts for nearly 60% of 
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And so again, look, we, we got 
this picture here coming out and

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there's some pictures of their 
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It looks kind of like they're 
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But of course, this would be the
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going to name it. 
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They haven't officially 
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they are talking about it. 
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of holding a, a new BRICS 
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now, which is very interesting 
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And so of course, as a Bitcoin 
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problems that go along with the 
SWIFT system, with that go along

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with the US dollar. 
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dollar. 
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there is to further spread that 
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the foot. 
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obviously want to see America 
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But we're seeing that the 
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used the US dollar and 
weaponized it against our 

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enemies. 
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the economics of this, the 
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the US. 
And now countries are looking 

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for alternatives. 
You know, we're seeing bonds 

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being dropped. 
No one wants U.S. government 

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debt. 
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tit for tat things that we've 
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extent that now everyone doesn't
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They're at least questioning the
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And of course I would argue, and
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well, and everyone here at 
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That. 
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be a mistake for Russia to 
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You saw that last quote there 
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really going to want to join the
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But there is roughly about 50 or
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are looking to join the bricks, 
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And that is a growing trend that
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People don't want U.S. debt. 
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weaponization of the dollar and 
they're looking for 

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alternatives. 
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we would argue that the best 
alternative, the best 

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international payment system, or
rather the best international 

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money period is Bitcoin. 
So it's going to be interesting 

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to see these conversations 
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Of course, you know, you can say
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Russian Shields here because 
we're just covering the news 

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news and showing that hey, 
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BRICS nations want to drop the 
dollar because it's been 

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weaponized against them and 
Bitcoin is that neutral money 

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and so once. 
All those countries get into 

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Bitcoin, they realize that 
Bitcoin is the true neutral 

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international money. 
I think the game is really going

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to change and that's when 
adoption, I mean, we might even 

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hit hyper bitcoinization at that
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It's when one of these big 
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fully adopt Bitcoin, and if we 
get all the countries that are 

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in. 
Bricks interested in joining 

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BRICS. 
That's a total of 50 countries 

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dropping the dollar going into 
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And that is really when the game
theory gets super crazy. 

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Anyways, Dante, I know you've 
been covering this lately. 

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I know you got your eye on the 
ball right here. 

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So what's your thoughts on this 
clip coming out from Putin? 

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What's your thoughts about BRICS
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Man, couple thoughts. 
Before we get into any of the 

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logistics of the macro backdrop,
I want to get into some cultural

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commentary because even the 
translators that are translating

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for Putin don't know how to have
fun. 

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Like it's crazy. 
Like, you know, at least our 

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dictators or our evil people 
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know, even like you can take 
Kamala for example, like she has

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a little cackling laugh that'll 
make you like kind of question 

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whether she's a good person or 
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But Putin just faces just like 
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The translator behind him stone 
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You know why I really think 
they're serious about the bricks

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this time? 
Because I have 4 kids and taking

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family pictures with. 
Six of us as hard as hell. 

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So when they try to get 35 of 
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had to know the camera person 
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Like they got 13 different 
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different people and the picture
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I know that that was hard trying
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front. 
Putin's like 55, you know, 

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trying to get Chi in there. 
You know, it's just a whole mix 

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of stuff going on in there. 
That's the cultural commentary. 

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So I know that they're really 
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because doing a picture with 35 
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shot, we got to maximize. 
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thing about bricks, like we in 
the United States, we have this 

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slanted view that we are the 
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world. 
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represent 45% of the world's 
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GDP, $29 trillion and 4429% of 
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44% of total. 
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So look these people. 
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in terms of population and even 
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There's this great image that's 
coming out of the top G7 

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nations. 
None of the G7 nations are 

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growing above 3% in GDP. 
In the BRICS countries that are 

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represented there are growing 
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GDP, so some of these countries 
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And one of the things that made 
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You go back to Bretton Woods, 
you go back to our pact with 

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Saudi Arabia. 
Once they found these new 

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reserves of oil, we said, hey, 
we will protect you. 

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We'll protect your waterways. 
We'll protect your you 

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militarily with our Navy. 
We just ensure that all of the 

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dollar or all of the oil that is
paid for is paid for in dollars.

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That's how the dollar. 
Became the global reserve 

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currency of the world, even 
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So you have to remember the 
dollar is really backed by the 

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currency of the world, which 
Natty Brunel said two days ago 

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on Charles Payne show energy. 
And these shows in these 

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countries have energy in 
abundance, right? 

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They are some of the leading 
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terms of vegetables, in terms of
some of the raw materials and 

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goods, lithium, Palladium. 
You saw the United States 

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government talking about putting
a tariff on the Palladium 

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because Palladium is going to be
really important for this AI 

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future and boom and Russia 
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it. 
So it's going to be very 

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interesting. 
One of the things that I think 

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people have to realize is that 
the dollar is not going to be 

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worthless, that Putin said that 
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We can't go away from the 
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It is the most important asset 
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transactions that happen 
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denominated in dollars through 
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themselves or through back 
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after the fact. 
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know is that the dollar will be 
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So the dollar will not go to 
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The dollar will go to zero 
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measured against. 
When people say the dollar is 

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going to zero, I think everybody
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We're not going to get a 
doughnut in the dollar. 

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It's not a crypto asset in terms
of it won't be worth anything 

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like 99% of those things. 
And shout out to ETH because I 

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get a an opportunity to bash 
them whenever I can. 

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You're down a trillion, like ETH
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Bitcoin right now for anybody 
who wants to make a stupid 

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decision and go on and on earth 
right now. 

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But the most important thing is 
that everything denominated in 

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the dollar will be worth less 
over time. the United States is 

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backed into a corner. 
They lost all trust from other 

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global reserve currencies and 
treasury buyers when they seized

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$300 billion of Russia's assets 
going back two years and then 

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even threatened to fund the 
Ukrainian war, which is just a 

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shadow proxy war for the United 
States to fight against Russia 

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via another country in Ukraine. 
That's neither here nor there. 

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They broke the trust in the 
United States treasury system, 

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which was the world's free 
market return, safest safe haven

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asset that you can put your 
money into. 

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And now they have nowhere else 
to go. 

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That's why BRICS is being 
created. 

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That's why they're doing what 
they're doing, not because we're

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here to prop up these people or 
say that they're great people 

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and they're doing great things. 
It's because we've done this to 

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ourselves. 
And largely I believe that these

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countries, because they are 
abundant in the world's 

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universal currency, which is 
energy. 

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I do believe that they are great
proponents for Bitcoin as well. 

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Hold up, hold up. 
Dante coming in. 

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Absolutely killing and there's a
few things that I want to touch 

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on before we go on. 
There was a great comment in 

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here and I've noticed this 
happening in a lot of different 

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scenarios as well. 
Hold on, I'm trying to find this

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comment. 
It was by Skip on down the road 

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and he goes bricks members seem 
a lot like gold bugs that they 

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recognize the problem but not 
the solution, AKA Bitcoin. 

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And this is what we're seeing 
happening all the time. 

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Like, you know, a lot of the 
people in the world right now, 

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they, you can kind of liken them
to like dinosaurs. 

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They, they see there's a 
problem, but they're just 

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redoing the same, the same steps
that they've done before instead

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of trying to branch out to 
something new. 

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And obviously we would argue 
that that new technology is 

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Bitcoin. 
And this is where we are right 

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now. 
The, the asymmetry of 

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understanding Bitcoin hasn't 
fully distributed around the 

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world. 
Yes, you guys are early here. 

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We've understood Bitcoin, we 
understand the impact of what 

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Bitcoin is. 
And there's still an uphill 

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battle here because there's 
still a lot of education that 

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has to be done to kind of get 
more people to adopt Bitcoin 

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because that's the most 
important thing here period, is 

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getting more people to hold 
Bitcoin, to get more people to 

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see the light, get more people 
understanding what is actually 

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at stake and how you know how, 
how we're cheatering, on the 

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verge of maybe a total global 
Fiat collapse. 

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The Fiat apocalypse might be 
upon us, but you're seeing that 

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the problems are being talked 
about, but not enough talk has 

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been happening in regards 
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And that's why we're here. 
And This is why all you 

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Bitcoiners out there are 
actually doing the work of 

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trying to spread people or 
spread the adoption of Bitcoin 

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and get people on to the Bitcoin
standard, or rather the personal

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Bitcoin standard. 
But it is absolutely amazing 

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what you said, Dante, about like
the trust has been eroded. 

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I think trust and institutions 
are, I don't know, I don't have 

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the data here, so I'm 
spitballing, but it seems at 

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least just that the trust and 
institutions are at the lowest 

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they've probably ever been. 
I don't know if much 

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historically accurate, but it 
does feel like that minimizing 

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trust in these institutions is 
crumbling. 

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And that's, I think part of what
we've been talking about. 

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Just they've weaponized the 
dollar and people are looking 

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for alternatives and more people
are going to wake up to the 

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Bitcoin standard anyways. 
Let's get into. 

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The show because we do have a 
lot for you guys, but before. 

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We move on guys like share, 
subscribe there's over 1000 of 

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Let's see what you guys think 

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about this but of course we do 
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Yes, it's not as convenient for 

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Okay, 2100 sets. 

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All right, so whoever gets that 
first get 2100 sets. 

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What's that like? 
I don't even know. 

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I can't do the conversions right
now. 

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But anyways, make sure you go 
sign up to bitcoinwell.com and I

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was talking with Adam yesterday.
I might, I might, I might have 

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some, some trickery up my sleeve
to report on later in regards to

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Bitcoin. 
Wow. 

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But on that note, guys, let's 
get in to the numbers. 

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Of course, of course, of course.
Also, once you get a Bitcoin 

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wallet, you need to back up that
seed phrase. 

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Make sure you are securing your 
generational wealth. 

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Do not leave it on a piece of 
paper because it might get 

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destroyed. 
If you were in Florida, maybe 

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the hurricane came and got your 
seed phrase wet. 

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Now you're wrecked and your 
great, great grandchildren are 

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going to ask, hey grandpapa, why
are we broke? 

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Even though you are a Bitcoiner 
and you don't want to tell them 

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that you didn't secure your 
generational wealth, make sure 

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you stamp it into titanium. 
They've been trialled, been 

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tested, they've been through the
ringer, it's been thrown in the 

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water, it's been run over by 
bulldozers, it's been burnt by 

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torches, and it still withstands
and holds your seed phrase. 

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You want to make sure that you 
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OK guys, let's get into the 
numbers. 

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We'll go over the numbers real 
quick before we cover some more 

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news. 
Of course, I'm over here on 

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Clark Moody's Bitcoin dashboard 
and the current price is 60. 

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7500 and. 60 so it looks like 
climbing back up we're we're 

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we're consolidating a little bit
hopefully soon we'll break up 

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past the 70K mark. 
I think yesterday we said 77 was

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the new all time high adjusted 
via inflation. 

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So we're almost there. 
Anyways, the stats per dollar, 

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AKA how much the dollar is worth
in Bitcoin, AKA how much Bitcoin

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you can buy for a single dollar 
is currently at 1480 stats per 

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dollar or 148 bits for the bits 
maxi in the batch. 

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I think that conversation is 
going to come back soon. 

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And the current block height, 
which might be the most 

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important number in Bitcoin. 
Yes, we all love the price, but 

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TikTok next block, this number 
shows that Bitcoin is working 

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exactly as designed we're at 
block height of 867,167. 

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The current market cap and Fiat 
terms is $1.34 trillion. 

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And the Bitcoin versus gold 
market cap, so much room to run 

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in the hard money game. 
We are only at 6.96% of gold's 

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market cap. 
Soon we will get to 100. 

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Soon enough we'll get there. 
And the total money supply, the 

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total issuance of all Bitcoin 
that will ever be created is 

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currently at 94.15%, at 
19,000,700 and to 2180.49 BTC. 

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All right. 
Well, Dante mentioned something.

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Earlier. 
We will get a. 

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Chance to dunk on Ethereum 
again. 

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I'm glad you brought that up. 
We are going to be talking about

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ETS for a little bit. 
I know the ETF conversation has 

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been kind of beaten to a pulp. 
I guess. 

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I guess I'll say at this point 
metaphorically, because Nikko's 

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not here, but I'm sure a lot of 
his Bitcoiners are tired. 

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Obviously here at Simply 
Bitcoin, we are spot Bitcoin 

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Maxis. 
We think you guys should be. 

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Buying Bitcoin directly, you 
don't need to buy the paper 

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Bitcoin. 
But I get it. 

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If you are in Tradfi, you got 
your money locked up in the 

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Tradfi instruments, then maybe 
you want to get some Bitcoin 

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exposure. 
So do with that information as 

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you will, but covering the ETFs 
again. 

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It is undoubtedly. 
The best ETF launch ever, 

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literally ever. 
And here we got some numbers. 

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So this was tweeted out by Nate 
Karachi, president at ETF store.

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And of course you know he's 
covering the ETF. 

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So 575 ETFs have now launched in
2024 and 14 of the top 30 by 

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inflow inflows are either spot 
Bitcoin or a shit coin ETF that 

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will not be named except when we
dunk on it includes 6 of the top

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ten. 
And there are also 2 master 

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related ETFs in the top 30. 
So this is probably the point 

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that we constantly keep 
stressing that. 

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And we're gonna say Bitcoin 
appetite, Bitcoin appetite from 

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Tradfi is real again. 
We've been joking all year long.

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Don't sell your Bitcoin 'cause 
you're selling your Bitcoin to 

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Larry Fink or Michael Saylor. 
And and now you're starting to 

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see that it's catching on. 
We're seeing more big names come

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out and say that they have only 
Bitcoin exposure, that you need 

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some Bitcoin exposure. 
I think we started the year at 

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like when the ETF came out like 
maybe you should have 1%. 

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Now the conversation is like, 
you probably should have like 5 

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to 10%. 
We'll soon enough get to the 

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point where we're like, you need
to go all in. 

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You need to go all in on 
Bitcoin. 

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Anyways, going further on this, 
Eric Balkunis, of course, he 

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works at Bloomberg, right? 
Yep, analyst. 

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Senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg,
he goes. 

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Great. 
Stats never. 

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He's just too amazed. 
I'll go one step further in the 

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last four years, 1800 ETS have 
launched and I bid of course the

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Black Rock ETF is the most 
successful of all of them at $26

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billion. 
And then this morning Eric comes

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back on Twitter and he goes, we 
have this tweet here. 

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Actually, we'll go here 1st and 
goes Sean goes yet another big 

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day for BlackRock spot Bitcoin 
ETF now almost through 400,000 

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BTC under management liquidation
heatmap showing strong potential

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upside. 
Get some and get yours while you

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still can. 
Of course, it's showing some of 

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the Bitcoin holders here and 
BlackRock is is it's coming. 

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You know, it's, it's going for 
the top spot. 

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Can they flipping Satoshi out 
there? 

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That's the real flipping that 
we're going. 

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Going to see and going further, 
you know, US spot Bitcoin ETF, 

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which is just covered. 
BlackRock is basically the 

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biggest one. 
It's dwarf grayscale, which had 

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the head the head start out 
there. 

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And it seems like all the money 
is rotating out of grayscale and

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into BlackRock. 
So soon enough, once we start to

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see that more people catch on to
the Bitcoin Bitcoin ETF, it 

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won't just be the rotation of 
money from, you know, grayscale 

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into BlackRock. 
I think we're going to see a new

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unlock of liquidity going into 
Bitcoin. 

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All right, now go on back to 
this tweet by Eric Balkunas and 

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he goes not yet 10 months old. 
And the ETFs are 97% of the way 

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to holding 1,000,000 Bitcoin and
87% of the way to passing 

454
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,640
Satoshi as the biggest holder. 
I'll be presenting on this at 

455
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,920
Logano. 
And if you're going to say going

456
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000
to come, say hi. 
So it just goes to show that 

457
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,520
Tradfly is loving Bitcoin. 
We've hit the mainstage. 

458
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,760
Not only are we in the political
discussion, not only are we 

459
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,200
getting, you know, the nod from 
traditional financial asset 

460
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,480
managers, we have entered the 
mainstage and the ETF now is 

461
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,080
most likely, I think undoubtedly
the best ETF ever. 

462
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,600
And I think this is only going 
to increase, which just goes to 

463
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,880
show that there is an and very 
obvious need and want for 

464
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,480
Bitcoin. 
And of course, that's the first 

465
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,120
step, get Bitcoin exposure. 
The next step is hopefully some 

466
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,720
of these people start to 
actually hold Bitcoin directly. 

467
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,400
But we know how the traditional 
financial world works. 

468
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,040
It's very hard for them to get 
that trad by capital into 

469
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,560
Bitcoin, of course. 
But it just goes to show that 

470
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,560
you know, Wall Street has an 
appetite for Bitcoin. 

471
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,080
So shouts out to every single 
one of you guys out there, 

472
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,080
hashtag front Rand Wall Street. 
It's only matter of time until 

473
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,120
Wall Street starts working for 
us and starts pumping our bags. 

474
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,520
So, you know, there's a trade 
off here, yes. 

475
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,080
There's an interest in Bitcoin 
Yes number is going to go up. 

476
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,840
There is and should be a very 
real concern about how much 

477
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Bitcoin goes into these ETF 
considering that you know, I 

478
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,120
know it's what what we get 
called yesterday. 

479
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:43,200
Paranoid crypto anarchist are 
concerned about a six 102 order.

480
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,560
Personally think of all this ETF
Bitcoin as the government's 

481
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,520
Bitcoin, but hey, you know I'm, 
I'm just a paranoid crypto 

482
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,800
anarchist over here but it's 
just it just goes to show that 

483
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,640
the interest in Bitcoin is 
growing and man it it's been 

484
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,400
pretty crazy to see how quickly 
Wall Street and the 

485
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,000
institutional. 
Capitals of the world are 

486
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,520
adopting Bitcoin Jump. 
In. 

487
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,960
So, so here's so that I saw stat
this morning, 47% of all 

488
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,680
traditional hedge funds now hold
Bitcoin. 

489
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,120
And most of that's going to be 
through ETFs and it's 15 of the 

490
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,880
top 25 hedge funds in the world 
now on Bitcoin. 

491
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520
And I think the thing that's 
most critical for people to 

492
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,680
know, a lot of people don't 
know, Larry Fink started out at 

493
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,040
this bank way back in the day, I
think it was called First Bank 

494
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,680
or First Boston Bank. 
And he was one of the original 

495
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,400
creators of mortgage-backed 
securities. 

496
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,520
This is like 1987 or 19861987. 
He blew up the fund. 

497
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,120
They lost, you know, $100 
million. 

498
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,560
They were getting ready to fire 
him. 

499
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,040
He was depressed, down on his 
luck. 

500
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Steve Schwarzman, a couple guys 
from Blackstone who actually 

501
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,760
spun out Black Rock, said that, 
hey, you're one of the most 

502
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,520
talented guys on Wall Street. 
You're 35 years old, we're going

503
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000
to give you a shot. 
They gave him a $5,000,000 loan.

504
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,320
The dude only took out $150,000 
on that $5,000,000 loan to start

505
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,640
Black Rock. 
They went from like a couple 

506
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,560
$100 million in assets under 
management to like a billion in 

507
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040
less than a few years. 
And then they got up to a 

508
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520
trillion in 2000 when they went 
public. 

509
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,720
So Larry Fink was the creator of
mortgage-backed securities and 

510
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,560
then in the early, late 90s, he 
was one of the first people to 

511
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
adopt ETF. 
So this guy is a market maker 

512
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520
through and through. 
Everybody asks why he has so 

513
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,880
much influence on the world. 
He's by most in all accounts in 

514
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320
the Wall Street world, doesn't 
mean a whole lot in the real 

515
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520
world, but one of the most 
talented people in that that 

516
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,880
field and in that sphere. 
In 2020, so much so the United 

517
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,560
States government called Larry 
Fink in order to help them think

518
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,400
about restructuring their bonds 
and their bond duration 

519
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,480
portfolio. 
So literally, Larry Fink is the 

520
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,560
king of finance. 
So when he came out and when he 

521
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,960
flipped in 2022 to start to kind
of change his tone on Bitcoin 

522
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,640
from an absolute Ponzi scheme 
all the way into launching the 

523
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,680
ETF, you knew that it was big. 
That was your time to buy. 

524
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,880
And so like, honestly, it, it is
what it is. 

525
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,160
A lot of people get so caught up
on whether you know, it's 

526
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,160
Michael Saylor. 
Now that's a whole big debate. 

527
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,120
Like everybody loves Michael 
Saylor when he's pumping their 

528
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,440
bags and the micro strategy 
flywheel is pumping. 

529
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,560
They issue more convertible 
bonds or more stock in order to 

530
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,200
buy more Bitcoin, which pumps 
their price. 

531
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Everybody loves Michael Saylor. 
Then then he talks about 

532
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,120
financial products or Bitcoin 
yield is how they're kind of 

533
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,800
determining their cash on cash 
or the return that they get on 

534
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,880
their Bitcoin. 
And then you know, like Al 

535
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,160
Schlischmann and River comes out
with a Bitcoin yield product and

536
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,800
everybody loves it. 
Like Long story short, like 

537
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Bitcoin is universal for 
everybody. 

538
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,880
Now there are levels to this. 
There is no second best. 

539
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,960
So in terms of Bitcoin versus 
other ETFs, there is no second 

540
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,560
best. 
The Bitcoin ETF is the best 

541
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Bitcoin ETS versus real Bitcoin.
There is no second best. 

542
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,120
There is only the right thing, 
which is buying real Bitcoin. 

543
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,400
And so I do believe, like 
everyone says, Blackrock's 

544
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,000
buying this, Blackrock's buying 
it in a trust on behalf of their

545
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280
shareholders. 
Now, is there a honeypot risk? 

546
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,120
Is there concentration risk? 
Is there a risk that the United 

547
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,200
States government will not be 
able to pay their unfunded 

548
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,400
liabilities or all of their 
Medicare, their Social Security?

549
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,800
We all know that those things 
aren't true. 

550
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,080
Is your pot of Bitcoin in an ETF
through a government at risk? 

551
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,800
In that scenario, absolutely. 
Seizure and confiscation is not 

552
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,280
realistic. 
Lynn Alden actually had a 

553
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520
nostril post recently saying 
that seizure and. 

554
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,280
Confiscation in a digital era 
like is not realistic at all. 

555
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,600
But what is realistic is taxing 
or confiscating through products

556
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,600
and retirement portfolios 
because the only thing that 

557
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,120
actually gives your financial or
retirement portfolio the tax 

558
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,520
free advantage is because the 
government says so, not because 

559
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,560
the asset held in a 401K versus 
a Roth IRA versus you personally

560
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040
is any different. 
It's no different. 

561
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640
It's just what the government 
tells you about that thing and 

562
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,160
whether you're going to have to 
pay taxes on it. 

563
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,640
So for me, like I always say, 
hold it personally, like there's

564
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,400
no question about that. 
But like. 

565
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,200
It are. 
Is Wall Street going to get into

566
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:57,920
it? 
Yes. 

567
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Are mortgage-backed securities a
thing? 

568
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Yes. 
Will there be bubbles that get 

569
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,000
created on top of Bitcoin back 
products? 

570
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,680
Absolutely. 
But what does that represent for

571
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800
you? 
An opportunity to buy. 

572
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920
The richest people in America 
right now are the people who 

573
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
bought real estate in 2009 and 
2010. 

574
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,680
The bubble is what created the 
opportunity for wealth in real 

575
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960
estate, not the other way 
around. 

576
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,680
And so people say that this is a
bad thing. 

577
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,040
If you have a long term view and
a long term perspective, keep 

578
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,280
buying. 
Buy the real thing. 

579
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160
There is no second best. 
That's kind of my thoughts on 

580
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,200
it. 
It's going to happen, Larry 

581
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,280
thinks. 
A market creator. 

582
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,600
He's the best in the world. 
No, no surprise that it's the 

583
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440
most successful product of all 
time. 

584
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,280
You even hear it in their 
earnings reports. 

585
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,120
It's driving the majority of 
Black Rocks profits in their 

586
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,720
assets under management and so 
not a surprise. 

587
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,040
Will will keep happening and 
yeah, glad that we have guys 

588
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,360
like Michael Michael Saylor, 
Michael Michael Strategy Micro 

589
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920
Sailor, however you want to say 
it on. 

590
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,800
Board, because if we didn't. 
We'd have guys like Jamie Dimon,

591
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,000
so pick your poison. 
Let's go. 

592
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Hold on. 
Everyone in the chat says Don, 

593
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,800
let's go. 
Anyways, we are going to be 

594
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,760
talking about taxes in in the 
news. 

595
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040
We do have a a recent 
development on taxes. 

596
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,280
So I'm glad you brought that up 
because that is going to be the 

597
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,800
news story today. 
But before we do that, Dante, 

598
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,560
before I forget, I'm going to 
give you the floor so we can 

599
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,560
cook Ethereum a little bit. 
So I saw this tweet here 

600
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,440
yesterday from Thomas Throwlight
and he goes, Bitcoin is worth a 

601
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
trillion dollars more than 
Ethereum. 

602
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280
And you can check a coin market 
cap here. 

603
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Because of course in that ETF 
news that they were kind of 

604
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,200
bundling the ETF with the 
Bitcoin ETF. 

605
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Of course, there's no second 
best. 

606
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
It's it's Bitcoin and everything
else is a shit coin. 

607
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,760
But it is actually kind of crazy
that Bitcoin now is worth a 

608
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,120
trillion dollars more than ETH. 
Whatever happened to the the 

609
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,240
flipping here? 
It's not eats what's going to 

610
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560
take over the world. 
So Dante, I'm going to give you 

611
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,200
this moment. 
You want to cook eats a little 

612
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,280
bit. 
Maybe this dissuade someone from

613
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,280
buying this trash coin known as 
Etherium. 

614
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,680
That's my sailor side. 
So. 

615
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,080
So look, the last time we've 
heard from Vitalik was him 

616
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,880
getting commented through these 
articles 2 days ago about him, 

617
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,960
him making a comment about 
Michael Saylor saying that you 

618
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880
know, Bitcoin held in 
institutions a terrible 

619
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,560
strategy. 
That's been your entire strategy

620
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:30,240
from the beginning was literally
to Co opt Ethereum with the guys

621
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,960
at JP Morgan and Web 3 and 
Metamask in order for 

622
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120
governments to create their own 
privatized block chains. 

623
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200
That's literally been your path 
from the very beginning. 

624
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400
So proof of stake, proof of 
trash there. 

625
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,200
There's no no value in here that
it's inherently not valuable. 

626
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,080
All of the people that were 
riding on the backs of crypto 

627
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,760
ETFs have been absolutely 
killed. 

628
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,760
You haven't heard anything in 
the media about the ETFs 

629
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120
because? 
They're they're not existed. 

630
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
They're not worthy to even be 
talked about. 

631
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Like there's no second best in 
all asset classes. 

632
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,600
ETH is no, no, no. 
I guess no different than 

633
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,480
anything else. 
The world Computer the the 

634
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,720
Worldwide Compute Network that 
would allow you to earn a yield 

635
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,480
via staking your assets. 
The dumbest thing that I've ever

636
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920
heard. 
And so now it's just kind of 

637
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240
coming back out like it's coming
full circle. 

638
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320
We only hear about Vitalik when 
he's talking about Bitcoin these

639
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520
days because no one's talking 
about Ethereum. 

640
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Nobody cares. 
I hope it continues to get 

641
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,720
buried. 
The the ratio is like .3, I 

642
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,800
don't know, 3-6 or three, three.
I think we'll see below a .3 

643
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,640
ratio of Bitcoin to ETH in this 
next bull cycle and it's not 

644
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,920
coming back. 
Let's go well, you know we we 

645
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,800
don't do it enough here and shit
on Ethereum because we are just 

646
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Bitcoin focused but absolutely 
love it. 

647
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,800
I also can't help but throw an 
opportunity to to spread the 

648
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,040
signal that it's Bitcoin only 
This is why we're simply 

649
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Bitcoin. 
This is why everything we tell 

650
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,240
you is to just buy some Bitcoin,
hold it long term, take it in 

651
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,360
the cold storage, run a node. 
This is how you win guys keep it

652
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440
simple. 
Do not gamble in the shit coin 

653
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160
casino and I think. 
I think, you know, the market 

654
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,480
speaking for itself, people do 
not want to hold Ethereum. 

655
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,880
Yes, they got their ETF, like 
you said, because of maybe their

656
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280
connections with Wall Street. 
And that's probably why they got

657
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,080
that approved, even though Gary 
Ginza for a long time was 

658
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,040
saying, hey, wait. 
Isn't this a security? 

659
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200
But hey, you know, they're going
to play some trickery out there 

660
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640
and do some favoritism. 
But that's that's a whole other 

661
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840
story. 
Let's get into the news story 

662
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,000
because we do have a very 
interesting news story today 

663
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,320
coming out of Denmark. 
And it is a threat, you know, a 

664
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
theme. 
We've been talking about here on

665
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,440
the show for a long time about 
as Bitcoin starts to completely 

666
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520
win and get out of the race, 
countries are going to start to 

667
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,720
try to clamp down and do capital
controls. 

668
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,440
And we did talk about that Lynn 
Alden post the other day and 

669
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,760
maybe maybe I should find it 
real quick and we can talk about

670
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,840
it while I cover the news. 
All right, let's. 

671
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,760
Let's get into it guys. 
So. 

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710
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you actually maybe let me full 
screen this or no no, I'll cover

711
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it in there's a there's a note 
here. 

712
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,400
So we've been covering this 
theme on the show for a long 

713
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,280
time. 
Remember last week we had the 

714
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,560
talk from Italy proposing 
capital gains tax, raising the 

715
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,480
capital gains tax from, I 
believe 26. 

716
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,160
To 42. 
Percent, we also saw Kamala this

717
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,880
year or the Biden administration
come out and say that they're 

718
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,960
proposing a 25% capital gains 
tax on just Bitcoin itself and 

719
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,880
and now we're seeing that in 
Denmark, they are proposing a 

720
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,000
bill to tax unrealized 
cryptocurrency capital gains tax

721
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,400
next year. 
So I am over here on no BS 

722
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,080
Bitcoin. 
I will. 

723
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Jump to the source for a little 
bit, but just kind of doing the 

724
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,080
TLDR here. 
This new bill is expected to 

725
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,440
present it to the Danish 
parliament in early 2025, with 

726
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,320
the country's Tax Law Council 
recommending that the rules 

727
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,000
should not be implemented before
January 1st 2026. 

728
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,200
At the earliest, so the Danish. 
History of taxation recommends 

729
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,880
taxing unrealized gains and 
losses on cryptocurrency assets 

730
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
in the same way it taxes stocks 
and bonds. 

731
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160
You know recommend they drop the
93 page report talking about 

732
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,720
this. 
So let me let me go to the 

733
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,840
source here. 
I'm on Atlas 21 kind of jumping 

734
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,720
jumping in giving it a little 
more context. 

735
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,760
So again, headline Denmark 
proposal for taxation on 

736
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,120
unrealized cryptocurrency gains.
The Danish tax proposal on 

737
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,880
unrealized crypto gains. 
The goal is to implement new 

738
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,720
regulations by 2026. 
The Danish Tax Council has 

739
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,080
recently suggested the 
introduction of a bill to tax 

740
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,680
unrealized gains and losses 
related to quote digital assets 

741
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,560
and the details of the council 
reports. 

742
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,040
In a 93 page report on the tax 
regime applicable to crypto 

743
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,760
currencies, the council examined
3 potential methodologies for 

744
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,600
taxing digital assets, a capital
gain taxation, a warehouse 

745
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680
taxation and an inventory 
taxation, and the report 

746
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,920
proposes a uniform approach to 
the taxation of digital assets 

747
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,520
valid in all contexts. 
Danish Tax Minister Ross miss 

748
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,720
Stockland Stockland emphasized 
the need for a clearer rules to 

749
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,400
avoid unfair taxation under the 
current regime. 

750
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Sounds like an oxymoron unfair 
taxation, but clearer rules and 

751
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,080
you're going to tax unrealized, 
you know, gains cap gains on 

752
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,080
just Bitcoin or digital assets. 
Interesting all right so the 

753
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,280
preference is for this inventory
model. 

754
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Among the alternatives 
discussed, the report leans 

755
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,200
towards the quote inventory 
inventory taxation model. 

756
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,560
This model stipulates that the 
entire cryptocurrency wallet is 

757
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,480
considered a single inventory 
tax on an annual basis at a 

758
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,640
specific date, regardless of the
sale of the assets. 

759
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,720
In a similar scenario, digital 
assets would be treated like 

760
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,240
other financial instruments such
as stocks and bonds, taxing both

761
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,640
unrealized gains and losses. 
And detail regarding the 

762
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,480
retroactive application of the 
tax rules for current wallets 

763
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,440
remains unspecified. 
Some additional proposals 

764
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,880
suggest that service providers 
for digital assets. 

765
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Excuse me, such as exchanges or 
cryptocurrency payment companies

766
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,320
should collect and share data on
customer transactions. 

767
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,880
This information could support 
collaboration amongst European 

768
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,760
Union countries on tax matters. 
Of course, the timeline is no 

769
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,360
earlier than 2025, may be 
implemented by January 1st of 

770
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,920
2026. 
And I think this is the context 

771
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,840
that we've been talking about. 
We've been covering it on the 

772
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,640
show, the international 
contacts. 

773
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,720
So the Danish proposal fits into
a growing international mosaic 

774
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:47,040
of tax regulations for crypto 
currencies. 

775
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,800
In the United States, for 
example, a 25% tax on unsold 

776
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,240
assets has been proposed by 
presidential candidate Kamala 

777
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,440
Harris. 
At the same time, Italy is 

778
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,440
considering an increase in taxes
on capital gains for holders of 

779
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,200
Bitcoin and digital assets, 
raising it from 26 to 42% by 

780
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,720
2025. 
Which is, I think, just more 

781
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,640
signal to what we've been 
saying. 

782
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Remember, of course, Chrissy 
Lagarde's been going out there 

783
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,040
for years basically saying that.
If there is an escape patch, if 

784
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,960
there is an escape boat that we 
have to stop it. 

785
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,000
Of course, they want you to stay
having fun being poor. 

786
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,160
They want you to keep you into 
the system. 

787
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,560
And they are doing whatever they
can to incentivize you with, you

788
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:36,640
know, fear of violence and fines
to ensure that you cannot start 

789
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
to prosper, that you can't 
increase your purchasing power 

790
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,000
by holding Bitcoin. 
So I think this is, I wouldn't 

791
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,360
say the last gasp of a dying 
Fiat system, but you can tell 

792
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,880
that they're they're afraid, 
especially when you kind of link

793
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,200
that with the ECB report about, 
you know, how they can control 

794
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,760
Bitcoin. 
We saw the Fed do another report

795
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,640
about maybe the best way. 
If Bitcoin wins, you know, we 

796
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,320
should tax it. 
So now I think we've gotten to 

797
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,720
obviously that then they fight 
you stage. 

798
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Where at first? 
They're like, let's ignore them.

799
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:08,720
Remember Neel Kashkari just came
out and said, oh, Bitcoin is 

800
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,760
worthless. 
And then literally in the same 

801
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,360
week, he's like, well, maybe if 
it's worthless, we should still 

802
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,720
tax them. 
This is how we can control it. 

803
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,720
So which one is it? 
Is it worthless or do you want 

804
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,040
to tax us? 
But I think the theme remains 

805
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,280
the same that there is. 
And if you connect this with 

806
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,000
what's going on in the BRICS 
Summit, there is an active 

807
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,280
narrative or an active 
appreciation, an active move 

808
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,080
towards people escaping Fiat 
currencies. 

809
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,920
If you are not as well 
entrenched in economics and 

810
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,960
traditional financial world and 
macroeconomics at large, you 

811
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,400
know, you may not understand 
what's going on, but it's all 

812
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,400
remaining the same. 
People. 

813
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,640
People are realizing there's a 
problem with Fiat currencies. 

814
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,600
People are realizing that maybe 
I don't want to hold paper debt 

815
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,760
as my money right now. 
Maybe there's an alternative. 

816
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,640
What is that alternative? 
Obviously we think it's Bitcoin 

817
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,480
and especially when you connect 
this with what we saw. 

818
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,600
All. 
Of this year 2024 with Operation

819
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Choke .2 point O you're seeing 
that the powers that be the the 

820
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,800
elites, if you will I, I don't 
like using that word, but you're

821
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
seeing that they are panicking 
out there and they want to 

822
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,160
ensure that the sheep cattle 
stay in their system where they 

823
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,000
can tax you, where you know they
can shut you off from the system

824
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,680
where they can debank you, where
they can stop transactions and 

825
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,920
hopefully moving you you toward 
a dystopian CBDC digital 

826
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680
currency system. 
We all know that's the play. 

827
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,360
We've been covering it all year 
long, but it is very interesting

828
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,320
that countries around the world 
are ramping up their control 

829
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,560
mechanisms from capital flight. 
And this is what we're. 

830
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Seeing, I think we're going to 
see more of this plan out not 

831
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,880
only the end of this year, but 
moving into the future that as 

832
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,080
people find the need to wake up 
and start to save in Bitcoin, 

833
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,520
the powers that be, those in 
control, obviously trying to 

834
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,640
maintain their power are going 
to do whatever they can to stop 

835
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,000
people from moving into Bitcoin.
And obviously taxing us out of 

836
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,560
existence on our unrealized 
gains is absolutely ludicrous 

837
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,080
and definitely a way to ensure 
that you can't maintain your 

838
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,960
purchasing power. 
And Dante, you jump in on this 

839
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,840
and then I'm going to pull up 
the the Lynn Alden tweet. 

840
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,640
So maybe if you want to 
reference that as well. 

841
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,840
But what's your thoughts? 
First of all, what's your 

842
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,320
initial knee jerk reaction to 
this Denmark proposal of taxing 

843
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,400
unrealized gains on just digital
assets or, you know, Bitcoin and

844
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,520
crypto? 
Well, I'm going to go ahead and 

845
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,920
caveat my whole thinking on 
Denmark is what I call the 

846
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Denmark discount. 
Like I'm a discount anything 

847
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,800
that's coming out of Denmark 
because the whole, the whole 

848
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,080
economy is propped up on fraud 
and stuff that doesn't actually 

849
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,120
work. 
So fraud number one, I think 

850
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,160
they're the largest exporter in 
the world of wind and turbine 

851
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,040
energy. 
Which we all know is just so 

852
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,560
much of a fraud, right? 
We talk about ESG and how it's 

853
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,200
going to be sustainable for the 
environment. 

854
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,080
And then you drive by like any 
field on your way up to Chicago,

855
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,400
and you see about a billion dead
birds in the middle of the 

856
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,360
field. 
And all the concrete that's 

857
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,080
there, right, is a sustainable 
and ESG positive for you. 

858
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,560
You can't use it right in the 
grid directly. 

859
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,800
Battery storage isn't good 
enough. 

860
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,880
But like a lot of their 
economies built up on wind and 

861
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,880
turbine energy fraud #1 fraud #2
Novo Nordisk, it's like their 

862
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,000
poster child, right? 
Which we know has been coming 

863
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,080
out with fraudulent drugs, 
right? 

864
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,080
We we don't need to go down that
whole, that whole rabbit hole 

865
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,200
there. 
But yeah, that's that's Denmark.

866
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,480
And you know, the last time they
were relevant in a sports 

867
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,960
perspective, I think they had 
two guys in the Tour de France. 

868
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,440
I will give them this. 
That they did that did win, but 

869
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,920
we don't know. 
The Tour de France is full of 

870
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,240
cheaters. 
So if you ain't cheating, you 

871
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,640
ain't trying in the Tour de 
France. 

872
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,960
And then I think they had a guy 
win the world championship in 

873
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,920
badminton in like 2020. 
So overall, I'm applying the 

874
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Denmark discount to this. 
But what you saw with Norway is 

875
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,960
they wanted to impose a wealth 
tax on the wealthiest people in 

876
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,520
their country. 
And what ended up happening, 

877
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,200
they thought that they would 
generate like another like 140, 

878
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,440
you know, million in revenue. 
But literally five $54 billion 

879
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,920
worth of net worth and revenue 
left the country. 

880
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:17,360
And so they end up getting tax 
losses of like $500 million when

881
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,160
they thought that they. 
Were going to generate revenue. 

882
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,040
So literally this never works. 
It's one of the dumbest policies

883
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,800
that you can enact. 
I do it to my kids though all 

884
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,880
the time. 
I'm not going to lie. 

885
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,600
I'm like Denmark, Daddy, if you,
if you want me to put, put it 

886
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,480
out there, I'll be imposing 
taxes on stuff that they 

887
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,120
thinking about doing. 
Like that's what this is like. 

888
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,640
I'm going to tax this thing that
hasn't even happened yet. 

889
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,680
Like go outside if you want to 
without shoes on. 

890
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,520
I'm already going to put some 
marbles in the floor just so 

891
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
your feet feel the fire of going
outside. 

892
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,480
And you might think about going 
outside without putting shoes on

893
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,160
instead of dragging this dirt 
through the house. 

894
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,680
So I call it the Denmark 
discount. 

895
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,920
It's a nothing burger to me. 
It's a stupid policy. 

896
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,920
More wealth is going to leave 
the country then it's going to 

897
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,880
come into the country. 
And all of these wealthy 

898
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,400
pharmaceutical holders in Novo 
Nordisk and in all of these 

899
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,560
different industries are just 
going to put their assets in 

900
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,960
other countries. 
They're going to put them in 

901
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Swiss banks. 
They're going to. 

902
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Put them in in Bitcoin or more 
Bitcoin friendly jurisdictions 

903
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,280
because it's an asset class 
whether you like it or not that 

904
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,880
people want to invest into and 
so either you can get with it. 

905
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,480
Or you can exclude yourself from
the gains that are going to come

906
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,160
from it. 
But either way you lose. 

907
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,000
If you try to ban it, you just 
ban yourself from the 

908
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,480
opportunities that come from it.
So Denmark is another, you know,

909
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,360
example. 
In this case, more wealth is 

910
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,160
going to leave Denmark then it's
going to stay there. 

911
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,280
And I don't really take them 
seriously to be honest. 

912
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,880
Yeah, it really does sound like,
you know, it's a proposal. 

913
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,840
And even if they do try to 
implement it, like not even 

914
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,760
getting into all the details and
the technicalities of of this 

915
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,240
playing out like it, it feels 
like they're going to abandon 

916
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:01,520
this. 
Hopefully there's enough 

917
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
backlash where if people in 
Denmark are, you know, not just 

918
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,680
sleepwalking into their own 
gilded cage and they're like, 

919
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,200
no, this is not a good idea. 
Like, what are you saying? 

920
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,280
And especially when you kind of 
think about like these 

921
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,520
unrealized capital gains tax are
being caused because they are 

922
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,720
debasing the Fiat currency. 
And then there's even like, you 

923
00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:25,800
know, if, if this does spread 
like unrealized capital gains 

924
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,840
tax, say on your house or 
something, they're going to be 

925
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,920
so incentivized to just start 
confiscating people's assets 

926
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,680
because the dollar or any Fiat 
local currency is just getting 

927
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,840
destroyed right now. 
So basically everyone is going 

928
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,600
to have unrealized capital gains
taxes on everything they own. 

929
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,760
You know, I hate using the term 
slippery slope, but this is this

930
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,760
is one of those things where if 
you don't understand how the 

931
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,440
Fiat system works, it's like it 
makes no sense when you view it 

932
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,040
from a Bitcoin perspective. 
But Dante, I am going to bring 

933
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,600
up Lynn Alden's note here 
because we did cover it 

934
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,960
yesterday, but I think it is 
fitting that we cover it today. 

935
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,800
So yesterday we covered this in 
regards to Sailor talking about 

936
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,280
self custody, which we cleared 
up during the show. 

937
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,400
Of course, this is talking about
the six one O 2 order and gold 

938
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,400
confiscation. 
And I think the point here is at

939
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,080
the very end that the 
government's now can track or 

940
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,080
can governments today track 
Bitcoin in the twenty 20s better

941
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,120
or worse than gold in 1930s for 
enforcement purposes? 

942
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,320
That's the right question. 
And don't just think of this in 

943
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,040
confiscation terms. 
Think of 70% selective taxes and

944
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640
things like that. 
Far more within the current rule

945
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,560
of law that sophisticated 
approach. 

946
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,320
Don't take it selectively, tax 
it by a lot. 

947
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,000
This is probably. 
Where we're going and these are 

948
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,280
the politics that we're seeing 
even being, you know, talked 

949
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,920
about is now, you know, there it
has been a lot of talk in 

950
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Bitcoin circles. 
We are all paranoid here and 

951
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,880
we're wondering like, OK, when 
is the 61O2 coming down from the

952
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,560
pipeline? 
Because we know that they want 

953
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,720
to ban Bitcoin, we know they 
don't like Bitcoin. 

954
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,840
But I think kind of what Dante 
was saying and what Lid Alden is

955
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,800
saying and what we're even 
seeing from Denmark, from Italy,

956
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,720
we've seen this rolled out from 
the Harrison Biden 

957
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:15,160
administration that they aren't 
actively or outright attacking 

958
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,720
Bitcoin at this point. 
They're trying to choke the on 

959
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,800
and off ramps. 
Of course, choke point 2.0. 

960
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Now they're kind of just 
floating these ideas of just, 

961
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,480
hey, you know, we don't hate 
Bitcoin, but you need to pay 

962
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,560
your fair share and we're going 
to tax you on just your Bitcoin 

963
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,880
at whatever X rate. 
And hey, maybe we tax you on 

964
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,320
your unrealized gains here and 
maybe this is how we control 

965
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Bitcoin and you're seeing all of
this being flowed out. 

966
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,520
And obviously as Bitcoiners, you
can argue about the 

967
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,400
technicalities of how they're 
even going to do that and how, 

968
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,280
you know, do they even have the 
manpower and the money to go to 

969
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,520
door to door and, you know, 
figure out where all. 

970
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,960
These boating accidents were and
etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 

971
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:57,920
But it is interesting that they 
are talking about this. 

972
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,520
So I think very prescient from 
Lynn Alden being like this is 

973
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,560
where the real ball is going and
that's where we should keep our 

974
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,960
eye on. 
Not so much that they're just 

975
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,680
going to outright, you know, ban
Bitcoin, try to confiscate our 

976
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,320
Bitcoin. 
They're probably going to try to

977
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,160
tax us out of existence. 
And you, you know, we can talk 

978
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,480
about that all day long here. 
But yeah, jump in, Dante. 

979
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:21,040
Well, like like Christian 
Lagarbage or Lagarde ETB 

980
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,880
president, you know, said this 
thing about well, you know, we 

981
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,560
need to, we need to tax Bitcoin 
holders because you know, the 

982
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,280
more that those people that were
in at the beginning, you know, 

983
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,880
the more revenue that they more,
the more gains that they have. 

984
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,920
Like we, we we need to tax in 
their fair share. 

985
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,120
If you look at this chart of 
gold, like be before 1971, 

986
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,120
right, we were at like, I don't 
know, $29.00 an ounce around, 

987
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,360
you know, Franklin Delano 
Roosevelt and then obviously 

988
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,240
$35.00 an ounce after 1945. 
And then we kind of stayed at 

989
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,720
that level a little bit more to 
that level up until Bretton 

990
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,480
Woods in 1971. 
And then the chart just goes 

991
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,800
parabolic, like hundred $200.00 
an ounce, $300.00 an ounce. 

992
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,720
You know, in the 80s, you know, 
you got the $700.00 an ounce 

993
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:06,840
went to $1400.00 an ounce. 
Anyways, lo and behold, they 

994
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,840
didn't impose a tax on people 
who got into gold early, right? 

995
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,080
There were no special taxes on 
the people who invested into 

996
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,800
Amazon early or Microsoft early.
If you look at any asset class, 

997
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,800
there are people who 
disproportionately gain from 

998
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,440
getting in earlier. 
That is one of the fundamental 

999
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,520
concepts of capitalism. 
And for the United States that 

1000
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,800
is inconsistent because if they 
were to do that right, the value

1001
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,360
of their own treasury holdings 
that they still have valued at 

1002
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,920
$35.00 an ounce, They would have
to also discount the fact that 

1003
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,840
they got in early by 
confiscating people's gold and 

1004
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,320
being the number one holder of 
gold reserves in the world, 

1005
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560
which we can't confirm because 
it's opaque market. 

1006
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,360
We don't know if Fort Knox is 
actually real. 

1007
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,040
All of this data anyways. 
That's like a whole different, 

1008
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,640
you know, topic. 
We don't need to go down that 

1009
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:00,400
rabbit hole, but the point is 
that this is true of every asset

1010
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,680
class. 
So that's going to be wildly 

1011
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,360
inconsistent. 
I don't see how this sort of 

1012
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,200
legislation passes in the United
States context. 

1013
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,000
I can absolutely see this going 
in Europe and other places, 

1014
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,240
which jurisdictionally is going 
to drive more value to the 

1015
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:18,200
United States dollar and this is
what happens with that dollar. 

1016
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Doom Loop. 
If you've ever heard of the 

1017
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,480
dollar milkshake theory from 
Brent Johnson, what happens is. 

1018
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,120
The value of the United States 
market increases relative to the

1019
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,680
other emerging markets faster, 
which causes them to pull assets

1020
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,160
out of their own economy to put 
them into the United States 

1021
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,360
economy, which then creates more
of a distortion and more of a 

1022
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,360
location and more dollars flow. 
And so that's what happens is 

1023
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,200
the dollar continues to 
strengthen, not because the 

1024
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,160
dollar is strong, it strengthens
relative to their weaker 

1025
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,320
currencies. 
And so this is a a story that I 

1026
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,600
will see play out. 
If they impose these sorts of 

1027
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,040
regulations in the European 
Union or in other places where 

1028
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,080
they're going to selectively tax
Bitcoin, this would never fly in

1029
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,440
United States context, like any 
rational judge or. 

1030
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,600
You know, just straight thinking
person would say, well then 

1031
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,040
we're going to have to go back 
and tax every early shareholder 

1032
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,720
in every other asset class that 
you have out there, including 

1033
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,080
gold as a commodity. 
So what that's going to cause is

1034
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,040
more flight and more capital to 
go to the United States markets,

1035
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,400
which is what China is facing 
right now. 

1036
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,400
We're on a little bit of a 
tangent, but I'm on one. 

1037
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,280
So I just want to keep going. 
What's happening in China right 

1038
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,720
now? 
They're trying to bolster their 

1039
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:31,600
stock market because their 
economy. 

1040
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,880
Is absolutely crumbling. 
The property values, their real 

1041
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,360
estate values continue to go 
down, right? 

1042
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,560
The the consumers in China have 
low trust in their own economy. 

1043
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,040
And what you're seeing is 
they're flooding the market with

1044
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,640
a bazooka of liquidity in order 
to prop up foreign investment 

1045
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,480
into their stock market. 
But ultimately, at the end of 

1046
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,920
the day, people don't trust the 
Chinese stock market. 

1047
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,400
And so Chinese investors, they. 
Put all of their money into 

1048
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,640
United States markets, they put 
it into Canadian real estate, 

1049
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,960
they put it into United States 
real estate in the Pacific 

1050
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Northwest. 
They continue to send their kids

1051
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,440
to College in the United States 
because they want to park their 

1052
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,040
assets in the United States. 
And that drives up the dominance

1053
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,320
of the dollar. 
And so this is will continue to 

1054
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,080
happen if other jurisdictions 
continue to do things like this.

1055
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,560
If they want to tax Bitcoin 
selectively by imposing a 70% 

1056
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
tax, good luck. 
More money's going to flow into 

1057
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,320
the United States. 
That's going to create a 

1058
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,720
stronger dollar and then it's 
going to create more pressure to

1059
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:35,320
pay back those US denominated 
debts, which is the euro market 

1060
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,320
altogether. 
Tangent, but hopefully it's 

1061
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,480
valuable for people. 
Dante spitting today yeah and 

1062
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,960
and speaking even of China, 
they're they did I I think it 

1063
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,680
was just maybe floated but the 
you know the CCP, the Chinese 

1064
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,640
government out there is 
basically now at least talking 

1065
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,320
about taxing their citizens on 
foreign investments. 

1066
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,120
And so like is that going to 
also hurt the US real estate? 

1067
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,760
Obviously they are worried about
capital flight and they're doing

1068
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,680
and clamping down on capital 
controls. 

1069
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,800
And so this is the growing trend
and This is why we talk about 

1070
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,360
this on the show all the time as
a theme that the powers that be,

1071
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,360
the international bankers, you 
know, the bankers, the 

1072
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,720
politicians, they aren't as 
stupid as you might think they 

1073
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,080
are. 
They understand the game as 

1074
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,280
well. 
And they understand that they 

1075
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,560
have to clamp down on capital 
because if capital isn't treated

1076
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,800
correctly, it's going to flow to
where it's treated well. 

1077
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,280
And we're seeing multiple 
examples of this play out. 

1078
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,000
And of course, Bitcoin is the 
superior money here. 

1079
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,320
It's, you know, it's a, it's the
best money here and it's very 

1080
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,600
easy to just pick up all your 
wealth in Bitcoin, go where 

1081
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,320
you're treated well. 
And we're going to start to see 

1082
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,080
this nomadic Bitcoin meme really
start to play out if more 

1083
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,600
countries and more governments 
start to act very unfavorably 

1084
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,440
towards Bitcoin. 
And we're seeing this happen in 

1085
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,080
in traditional finances. 
So it's only going to put, you 

1086
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,000
know, gasoline on the fire when 
they really come after Bitcoin 

1087
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,280
and men. 
We all know that it's coming 

1088
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,520
down the timeline and, and we 
see this happening in real time 

1089
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,320
here. 
It's a, it's like the train 

1090
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,440
wreck in slow motion here on 
simply Bitcoin because we 

1091
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,880
constantly cover it and people 
are like, what? 

1092
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,240
That's not gonna happen. 
It's never gonna happen. 

1093
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:19,760
And now it's like 2-3 months 
down the line, we're like, no, 

1094
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,560
see here, here's another example
of capital control. 

1095
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,800
Whether they're trying to tax 
it, whether they're trying to 

1096
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,680
ban it, it, we know what the 
game is. 

1097
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,240
Once you understand how Bitcoin 
works and you look at the world 

1098
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,640
through a Bitcoin lens, you 
understand where the next move 

1099
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,240
on the chess board's going to 
come from. 

1100
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,320
And we all know it's going to be
capital controls. 

1101
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,840
They're obviously trying to do 
that with Operation Choke .2 

1102
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,680
Point O. 
They're doing it in traditional 

1103
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,360
financial worlds. 
They're floating out all these 

1104
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,960
tax propositions. 
It's like it's coming soon 

1105
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,440
enough unless Bitcoin just blows
through and we, you know, we get

1106
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,560
this watershed moment where 
everyone becomes a Bitcoiner. 

1107
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,920
But that that's probably the 
most helping we had on the show 

1108
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,960
today. 
Yeah, No, I don't. 

1109
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,400
I don't. 
I don't see that happening. 

1110
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,920
But I mean, for those of us that
do get in, I mean, you can 

1111
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,880
either, you can either deny it 
or or you can get with it. 

1112
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,720
I always keep this book with me,
man. 

1113
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,440
I I like, I talk about this book
more than I probably should. 

1114
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,560
This is the everything store 
with Jeff Bezos by Brad Stone. 

1115
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,080
Literally at the beginning of 
this book, he worked at a 

1116
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,680
company called DE Shaw, which 
basically created one of the 

1117
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,000
first, you know, like Gmail 
equivalents and you know, ad 

1118
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,840
based browsers and all these 
sorts of things. 

1119
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,960
He was the best employee at DE 
Shaw. 

1120
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,440
And he goes to his boss one day.
You know, they're one of the 

1121
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,480
biggest and highest performing 
hedge funds out there. 

1122
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,120
He goes to his boss one day. 
He goes, yo, I'm about to leave 

1123
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,800
to to sell some books. 
And boss is like, what are you 

1124
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,160
talking about? 
What the hell do you mean you're

1125
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,120
going to sell books? 
He's like, yeah, there's this 

1126
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,520
thing called the Internet and 
it's growing the last three 

1127
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,600
years, a compounded annual 
growth rate of about 1500% a 

1128
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,640
year. 
And I think it's going to be a 

1129
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,280
thing. 
And so, yeah, I'm just going to 

1130
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,360
start out selling books. 
We'll see what what happens from

1131
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,080
there. 
Literally two months later, 

1132
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,600
dipped out, went to Amazon 
famously, you know, turn that 

1133
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,000
door into his desk and, you 
know, start it from there. 

1134
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,600
The whole point of that is he 
saw a world based upon the 

1135
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,600
compounded annual growth rate of
the Internet, that this thing is

1136
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,160
going to be sustainable. 
And so I'm going to start at the

1137
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,440
very bottom, building a system 
that looks completely different 

1138
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,400
than every other commerce and 
every other store out there. 

1139
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,640
And lo and behold, we get more 
Amazon packages at our door than

1140
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,120
anything else these days. 
And this is in a span of 20 to 

1141
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,800
25 years relative to when they 
went public in 1997. 

1142
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,800
So you have to understand the 
compounded annual growth rate 

1143
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,920
from when they went public is 
like 32% a year. 

1144
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,520
You have to understand when 
these trends happen, there's no 

1145
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,800
stopping them. 
There's a great chart this week 

1146
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,160
going out there about Netflix 
and how their subscriber chart 

1147
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,360
and growth is like taking off 
because Netflix was the first, 

1148
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,080
the first people in this whole 
streaming wars to have this 

1149
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,960
Moat. 
And when you get these first 

1150
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,800
advantage movers in this digital
age, these digital monopolies 

1151
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,280
and digital networks are so 
devastating when you get that 

1152
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,520
first mover advantage and you 
get that first. 

1153
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,040
And Bitcoin has that Moat in the
crypto world versus ETF and the 

1154
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,360
ETF world versus other financial
products and the self 

1155
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,600
sovereignty market versus other 
things like gold, like what 

1156
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,600
you're starting to see in this 
digital world. 

1157
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,680
This is the digital hard asset 
of the next Millennium. 

1158
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,280
And so when you think about 
that, the, the, the trend is 

1159
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,400
obvious. 
Don't, don't fight the trade, 

1160
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,560
don't make it too hard. 
You can't see it. 

1161
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,720
But if you squint out far 
enough, you'll see that this is 

1162
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,040
following the same the same 
curves, the same loss, the same 

1163
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,360
things that we've seen in the 
past. 

1164
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,680
Totally, man, absolutely killing
it today, Dante, Everyone, we 

1165
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,600
got one last segment. 
We're going to be talking about 

1166
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,160
all the stuff that Dante is 
working on. 

1167
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,800
But of course, there's over 1700
of you guys watching live. 

1168
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Let's get the likes up on 
YouTube. 

1169
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,600
It helps us get pushed in the 
algos. 

1170
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,640
Hashtag for the algos. 
Let's make sure more people are 

1171
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,960
hearing this message. 
This is how we win is waking up 

1172
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,360
everyone out there to the real 
problems in the world. 

1173
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
But before we do that, let's get
into the culture. 

1174
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,240
I think if you like Dante's 
spitting on today's show, he's 

1175
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,320
going to drop some more. 
Sauce for you guys. 

1176
01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:34,270
All right, guys, of course, of 
course, of course we pay the 

1177
01:00:34,270 --> 01:00:35,630
bills here. 
Make sure you go to 

1178
01:00:35,630 --> 01:00:39,550
orangecoapp.com. 
If you are hearing what we're 

1179
01:00:39,550 --> 01:00:44,190
saying today. 
The silver lining here is that 

1180
01:00:44,190 --> 01:00:45,910
one day big corners will have 
all the wealth. 

1181
01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:48,630
And so you want to stack some 
friends who stack sad. 

1182
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:52,150
So you need to ensure that you 
take these relationships from 

1183
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:55,920
the Internet and you bring them 
into meat space because hey, I 

1184
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,240
don't know if you guys noticed 
what happened the last four 

1185
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,680
years, but things have gone 
pretty crazy, like really crazy 

1186
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120
the last four years. 
And it would have been better if

1187
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,880
we had a small community of like
minded individuals, or rather a 

1188
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,600
huge community of like minded 
individuals so that you can rely

1189
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,960
on people that you know in meat 
space to fight back against the 

1190
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,320
great leviathan that we find 
ourselves in. 

1191
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,120
What a crazy world. 
Anyways, go to orangecoapp.com 

1192
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,760
stack friends who stacks that? 
This is the way. 

1193
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,000
All right, well, first and 
forest foremost, I'm just going 

1194
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,800
to show the YouTube a little bit
here Dante, because if you like 

1195
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,120
what Dante is doing, if you 
aren't aware, Dante is one of 

1196
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,680
our newest content creators 
doing the Bitcoin Simply Show. 

1197
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,680
So Dante, you've been killing 
it. 

1198
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,720
Let's just give the people a 
little TLDR. You know, what do 

1199
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,160
you cover? 
What do you want to do? 

1200
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,880
What's the mission with the 
Bitcoin Simply Show? 

1201
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,800
Man, it's in the name. 
Like I, we don't want to 

1202
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,720
overcomplicate it. 
I want to make Bitcoin simple 

1203
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,600
for people. 
I mean, honestly, I want to make

1204
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,200
it fun. 
I want to make it entertaining. 

1205
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,720
I want to make it relevant. 
So I'm always trying to mix in a

1206
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,520
sports reference, a funny joke, 
a funny clip here that allows 

1207
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,880
everybody to kind of get on the 
same page with what we're 

1208
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,680
talking about. 
And so that's my whole goal with

1209
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,240
the show in creating content 
again. 

1210
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,600
And in with that, you know, one 
of the biggest observations I 

1211
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,520
had when I was doing the Bitcoin
Daily Show at Swan, I put out 

1212
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,800
this thing where I said, Hey, 
send me an e-mail with your 

1213
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,880
questions at 
daily@swanbitcoin.com and 

1214
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,920
literally surprised me. 
Like I would get like 30 to 40 

1215
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,000
emails a day if people asking 
these questions of how do I 

1216
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,160
navigate this? 
What is what is will quantum 

1217
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,800
computing destroy Bitcoin? 
What is a multi sig versus a 

1218
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,440
single sig? 
How do I know that the 

1219
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,600
government's not going to ban 
it? 

1220
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,240
And what you understand is that 
there's so many people like 

1221
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,320
Twitter is probably not the best
medium to get like Lynn Alden or

1222
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,360
or one of these, you know, 
experts to reply back to your 

1223
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,160
tweet with the serious question 
that you have. 

1224
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,240
LinkedIn is clearly not the 
other right community where it's

1225
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,360
like literally like the algos 
ban anything and everything 

1226
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,160
about Bitcoin. 
But then it's like your 

1227
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,040
professional context. 
It's kind of weird. 

1228
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,600
Like none of your other peers 
are like really like engaging 

1229
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,120
with Bitcoin there. 
So I just thought like, hey, 

1230
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,800
what if there was this third 
space where people can literally

1231
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,200
learn, engage in community with 
others about Bitcoin and like 

1232
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,240
get real questions answered? 
How do they navigate this new 

1233
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,760
frontier? 
And that's why I came up with 

1234
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,560
this idea of like Columbus. 
Like that's what I'm doing with 

1235
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,400
joincolumbus.com. 
And as we've been in beta for 

1236
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,000
like the last two months, we've 
got, you know, hundreds of 

1237
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,680
members now. 
And it's pretty cool to see 

1238
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,520
people really want community. 
They really want answers. 

1239
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,000
They want to go in depth. 
They want it to be easy and 

1240
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,120
understandable. 
And so that's what I want to do 

1241
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,480
with my show. 
That's the kind of content I'm 

1242
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,120
trying to create. 
I'm literally like in the 

1243
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,320
process, like somebody tell me 
not to do this, but like writing

1244
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,240
a book to help make Bitcoin 
simple for people. 

1245
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,000
But it's literally all in the 
vein of helping people to try to

1246
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,080
understand this new 
revolutionary technology that I 

1247
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,920
believe will change the world. 
It's just hard to see that it's 

1248
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,560
not going to do what everyone 
said that it will. 

1249
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,440
And I want to make that 
accessible to everybody. 

1250
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,240
Like those adoption curves, like
the early adopters, that first 

1251
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,480
1% and you know we're in that 
kind of second phase of this S 

1252
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,880
curve. 
You're going to get like 

1253
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,600
everybody else jumping in here. 
I think it's my phone. 

1254
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,800
You're going to get everybody 
else coming in here that's, you 

1255
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,400
know, your grandfather, your 
uncle, your cousin and them, 

1256
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,920
they want to learn about 
Bitcoin. 

1257
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,840
But when you start talking about
Merkel trees, you start talking 

1258
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,720
about lightning nodes, you start
talking about datum and ocean 

1259
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,000
and all these protocols using 
all this language like, whoa, 

1260
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,040
that makes no sense to me. 
Well, you've got to break it 

1261
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,680
down in a way that helps them 
understand because everybody's 

1262
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,760
on a journey, crawl, walk, run. 
We're moving from, Hey, maybe I 

1263
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,720
might consider some in my in, in
an ETF in a retirement 

1264
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,080
portfolio. 
Hey, let me, let me, let me 

1265
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,560
think about how do I buy some on
one of these exchanges? 

1266
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,280
And the first ad that they see 
is Coinbase Terrible, I know. 

1267
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,680
But then one of your buddies 
convinces them to listen to a 

1268
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,280
podcast. 
They don't get off of they they 

1269
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,400
they move from Coinbase to a 
Bitcoin only exchange like the 

1270
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,760
Bitcoin well like river, like 
swan, one of these these Bitcoin

1271
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,920
only companies that has their 
best interest in mind and then 

1272
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,160
they move from leaving it on an 
exchange to withdrawing it to an

1273
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,280
online wallet. 
Maybe that's a blue wallet, 

1274
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,320
maybe that's phoenix wallet. 
Maybe that's one of these other 

1275
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,760
kinds of wallets where they kind
of get interested in this sort 

1276
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,200
of thing and they send their 
first transaction and then they 

1277
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,480
realize that the transaction 
that they sent was too small and

1278
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,920
it's going to create a small 
UTXO where the price of the fee 

1279
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,800
in the future is going to cost 
more than the stats that it's 

1280
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,120
worth in the UTXO. 
And so then and they go, oh man,

1281
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,680
maybe I could just buy this 
Bitcoin, but withdraw it in 

1282
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,760
larger UTXO set so that I it's 
going to be valuable in the 

1283
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,360
future. 
And then they move from oh crap,

1284
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,680
how do I do that? 
Well, I've got to download 

1285
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,000
Sparrow wallet or I've got to 
run my own start 9 lab node or 

1286
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,160
I've got to, you know, download 
one of these softwares to help 

1287
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:55,000
me or desktop software to help 
me understand these transactions

1288
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,560
and to do these sorts of things.
And then they go from single 

1289
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,480
transactions to multi sig right.
Oh, well, I had to assign twice,

1290
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,920
like multiple signatures in 
order to release these funds. 

1291
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,840
And then you go completely off 
the grid, right? 

1292
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,680
Everybody's on this continuum 
and on this journey. 

1293
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,200
Like, I'm really focused. 
Like, I love all the people on 

1294
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,360
the side, like all the hardcore 
folks. 

1295
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,960
I'm just not that hardcore. 
Like I'm watching Thursday Night

1296
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,880
Football. 
I'm trying to see what, like, 

1297
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,760
you know, Matt Stafford, you 
know, does to the Vikings 

1298
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,800
tonight. 
Like former NFC North guy. 

1299
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,640
He's got to hate those guys. 
Weird. 

1300
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,480
They might trade them to the 
Vikings, sort of a weird turn of

1301
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,280
events if he was in a Vikings 
jersey. 

1302
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,600
But like, I'm watching the game 
just like everybody else like 

1303
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,080
and people are looking at these 
different lines on FanDuel. 

1304
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,800
I don't bet I just buy Bitcoin. 
But it's interesting for me to 

1305
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,960
look at that stuff. 
And then so if I make a funny 

1306
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,000
joke related to the game that 
allows them to get into Bitcoin,

1307
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,160
that's a win for me. 
So that's what I do three days a

1308
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,200
week, hopefully more moving 
towards four days a week on 

1309
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,480
Bitcoin, simply on the Simply 
Bitcoin channel, and then 

1310
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,800
through Columbus throughout the 
week by trying to help people go

1311
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,840
deeper in their journey. 
And then hopefully through a 

1312
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,840
book and other content that 
should be coming out soon. 

1313
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,720
But that's what I'm up to, man. 
Love it, Dante. 

1314
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,320
I mean, I, I do agree with one 
thing you said, you know, I 

1315
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,600
don't really watch much sports 
ball anymore. 

1316
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,120
I have been catching some 
college football games on the 

1317
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,800
weekend. 
But one thing that I find very 

1318
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,920
interesting and, and, and you 
kind of just touched on that is 

1319
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,120
like, yes, once you kind of get 
obsessed with Bitcoin, it's like

1320
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,200
all you think about, But after 
you kind of get through that 

1321
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,000
initial like technical hurdle 
and you know, you understand 

1322
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,360
enough, you go back to, I just 
want to live a good life, man. 

1323
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,080
And, and Bitcoin is going to 
help me live that good life. 

1324
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,680
And hey, you know, I know a lot 
of Bitcoiners hate on people 

1325
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,280
that like football or watch 
sports and all that stuff, but 

1326
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,720
it's like there's other things 
outside of Bitcoin. 

1327
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,760
And this is how we get people 
into Bitcoin as not just a money

1328
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,880
revolution, but like a cultural 
revolution. 

1329
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,000
Understand like, yo, there's a 
lot more to life than just 

1330
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,800
Bitcoin. 
But once you get on the Bitcoin 

1331
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,720
standard, once you fix the 
money, you will fix the world. 

1332
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,760
And so kudos to you and the 
journey over that, Columbus. 

1333
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,600
But I see you do want to jump in
before we'll plug Columbus and 

1334
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,120
wrap up today's show. 
I mean, the the last thing that 

1335
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,000
yeah, I mean, my whole journey 
with getting people into Bitcoin

1336
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,960
is so that we can we can we can 
get the things that we truly 

1337
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,680
want in life. 
Like so the thing that I I 

1338
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,920
always want to say is like 
nobody that's watching my you 

1339
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,359
know, Bitcoin simply shows are 
going to be a like my funeral, 

1340
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,920
like Bitcoin is an Ave. for me 
to connect with the people that 

1341
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,680
I love to spend the most time 
with. 

1342
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,800
I have 4 kids. 
I live in community. 

1343
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,200
If you walk around on the east 
side of Indianapolis, like 

1344
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,319
people know who I am. 
People know who I am in this 

1345
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:38,399
city. 
And so it's like I want to be 

1346
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,080
famous, like in my own city, in 
my own little pocket in my own 

1347
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,880
city, right? 
Like I want to be known by the 

1348
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,240
people that that know me best. 
And so that's kind of my end 

1349
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,240
goal. 
And so Bitcoin is an Ave. for me

1350
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,200
to express that through 
financial financially through 

1351
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:54,080
through becoming financially 
sovereign and financially free. 

1352
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,160
And so my like, my whole thing 
with Bitcoin is like Bitcoin is 

1353
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,680
not the end, all right? 
It's not it's not the 

1354
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,560
destination. 
It's the journey towards the 

1355
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,120
place where you ultimately want 
to go. 

1356
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:06,880
So use it as a tool, use it as a
resource to help you achieve the

1357
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,600
goals and the things that you 
want in life. 

1358
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,760
And so that's my end goal. 
Like I'm out in the real world. 

1359
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,760
Like I'm out at like games, I'm 
coaching, I'm on sidelines, I'm 

1360
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,760
doing different stuff. 
Like we got to get off the 

1361
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,880
computers, we got to get off the
screen, we got to get away from,

1362
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,279
you know, the algos and all the 
things that people want to suck 

1363
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:25,240
us into so that we can start to 
get out into the real world. 

1364
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,000
So if you start to think in 
these epochs, these 4 four year 

1365
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,880
cycles, right like? 
You. 

1366
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,160
You really begin to desensitize 
yourself, to desensitize 

1367
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,319
yourself to the sways in the 
pools of all of this media, all 

1368
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:39,760
of these hype cycles, all of 
these election cycles. 

1369
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,279
And you start to think longer 
term. 

1370
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,880
And that's what Bitcoin 
ultimately allows you to do, is 

1371
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,840
you get into Bitcoin real deep 
and that allows you to exit into

1372
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:54,000
the things that you care about 
more deeply. 10 agree more, 10 

1373
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,040
agree more. 
All right, let's let's play 

1374
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,120
Columbus one more. 
But there was a good question 

1375
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,760
here. 
And, and I'm also wondering 

1376
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,920
this, I know you, I know Chris 
is a part of this. 

1377
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,160
You have a couple big corners 
that I know that are part of 

1378
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,800
Columbus. 
But someone asks, can I join 

1379
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,800
Columbus to teach? 
People about nodes. 

1380
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,640
Like how does this community 
work? 

1381
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,880
And then let's plug how people 
can join Columbus. 

1382
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,320
Yeah, so Columbus, it's going to
it's like a literal a digital 

1383
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,160
online community. 
And so I've been like behind the

1384
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,880
scenes trying to build all this 
sort stuff out, but there's 

1385
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,800
literally going to be like forms
and places where you can talk 

1386
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,640
about and ask questions about 
multi sig about lending options 

1387
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,440
on my Bitcoin. 
What's the difference between, 

1388
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:37,080
you know, debify or atomic 
finance or which again, all 

1389
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,800
these things that I don't like 
recommend to people or or these 

1390
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,040
sorts of things, but people have
questions about them and they 

1391
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,920
want real answers. 
They want real deep dive. 

1392
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,960
So this is going to be a 
community, community where you 

1393
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,720
can ask those questions that are
hard to ask in public. 

1394
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,160
So it's kind of a form sort of 
like Slack or Telegram or these 

1395
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,560
other things where you have 
these different channels that we

1396
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,280
talk about these different 
topics. 

1397
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Then we bring in different 
speakers. 

1398
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,440
So the last two speakers that 
I've had are Larry Lapard, I've 

1399
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,400
had Gio Santo Stasi, all right, 
to talk about the Bitcoin power 

1400
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,960
law. 
We're bringing in a multi cig 

1401
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,240
expert. 
We're actually going to go 

1402
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,320
through live. 
What is multi cig? 

1403
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,600
How do you invite different 
people into contracts? 

1404
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,520
How do you sign these 
transactions through your 

1405
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,600
signing device, not your 
hardware wallet, Bad term, but 

1406
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,280
teaching people all of these 
different differences with that.

1407
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,280
And so there's a couple of 
different tiers. 

1408
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,920
There's the adventurer tier, 
which is anyone can join, they 

1409
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,200
can come and they can learn for 
free. 

1410
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,360
And we're going to have courses,
we're going to have all of these

1411
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,200
things in there. 
Then there's the explorer tier. 

1412
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,280
So these are people that are 
going to go a little bit deeper 

1413
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,320
in their journey. 
We get to have one-on-one calls,

1414
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,120
like it's like 10 bucks a month.
Like people get to actually 

1415
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,120
engage with like me and other 
Bitcoin experts like Elaine Mao,

1416
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,640
someone you've seen on the show,
other people that are working 

1417
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,760
behind the scenes that are going
to answer your actual questions 

1418
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,640
and not just be out there in the
in the Internet. 

1419
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,320
And then you have the adventure 
tier. 

1420
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,200
This is a place for like high 
net worth individuals and other 

1421
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,800
people to connect and like round
tables with other people that 

1422
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,480
share their problems. 
These are people that own 

1423
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:02,400
businesses. 
These are people that have 

1424
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,320
significant networks. 
They have trust. 

1425
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,400
They don't know which lawyers to
use, which trust advisors to 

1426
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,440
use, which accountants to use, 
like their existing network is 

1427
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:15,160
counter position to their 
desires, which is to go deeper 

1428
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,320
into Bitcoin. 
And so it's a small community 

1429
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,120
for this group of people to do 
this as well. 

1430
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,440
But like, that's the practical 
of it. 

1431
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,480
Like we're coming up on like 2 
1/2 months. 

1432
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:25,480
We're really about to come out 
with all of these different 

1433
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,520
products and things. 
But like, it's a digital online 

1434
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,520
community to navigate your 
Bitcoin journey. 

1435
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,480
Love it bro. 
Killing it, killing it. 

1436
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:35,240
Oops, wrong comment, wrong 
comment. 

1437
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:39,880
Everyone's yelling at me because
I'm not hanging out in the chat.

1438
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,400
Hey guys, I'm I'm producing the 
show in real time as well. 

1439
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,480
But Dante, you killed it today. 
I do want to give you actually 

1440
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:51,640
two questions. 
First off, tell the people, tell

1441
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,680
the people when you drop the 
Bitcoin simply show so they know

1442
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,360
when to check out for you on the
Simply Bitcoin channel. 

1443
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,680
And then I want I want to do one
last question. 

1444
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,720
So do that quick plug, when do 
people find you on the Bitcoin 

1445
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,440
or Simply Bitcoin channel? 
The the only Simply Bitcoin 

1446
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:12,400
channel, the show that I produce
is called Bitcoin Simply and 

1447
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,440
that comes out on Tuesdays, 
Fridays and Saturdays. 

1448
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,200
So I definitely want to plug 
that the shows typically come 

1449
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,840
out between 3:30 and 5:00 every 
single day or, or on those 

1450
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,360
certain days. 
Rustin is on the other days of 

1451
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,840
the show and we're thinking 
about even producing a Sunday 

1452
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,240
show. 
So we're coming out on Tuesdays,

1453
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,840
Fridays and Saturdays on Bitcoin
Simply. 

1454
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,640
Love it bro. 
OK, last question. 

1455
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,400
I know you're technically in the
Co host seat today, but since 

1456
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,880
they're also kind of being the 
guest for today, I always leave 

1457
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,160
with the same question. 
What is the last message you 

1458
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,520
want to leave with the audience?
It could be about life, it could

1459
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,560
be about Bitcoin, it could be 
one last plug for Columbus. 

1460
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,640
Whatever it is, What's the last 
two sets you want to leave with 

1461
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,280
the audience today? 
Wow, I'm going to be back. 

1462
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,800
So I don't need to hit y'all 
with anything that's like morbid

1463
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,040
or like, you know, go kiss your 
loved ones and that sort of 

1464
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,960
stuff. 
Like I'm going to leave with 

1465
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,600
this whole comment from like 
bricks and Putin and everything 

1466
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,320
that happened today. 
Like he said today that the 

1467
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,080
dollar is the most important 
financial asset in the world. 

1468
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,960
The majority of financial trade 
is facilitated through the 

1469
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,440
dollar. 
So he said, he didn't say that 

1470
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,280
the dollar is going to be worth 
less. 

1471
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:30,120
It's going to be worth less 
overtime when compared to harder

1472
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,760
assets. 
So it isn't going to 0 

1473
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,120
nominally, it's going to 0 in 
the real terms when compared to 

1474
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,160
harder assets. 
The dollar will go to zero 

1475
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,680
against things like what Paul 
Tudor Jones and Stanley 

1476
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,960
Druckenmiller and even Larry 
Fink said, hey, I'm long hard 

1477
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,520
commodities, I'm long Bitcoin, 
I'm long gold, I'm short 

1478
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,800
treasuries, I'm short the United
States government, right? 

1479
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,760
All of these people have said 
the same thing, and these are 

1480
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,720
some of the best investors of 
all time. 

1481
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,880
Don't make the trade too hard, 
right? 

1482
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:05,280
The dollar is not going to 0. 
It's becoming worth 0 in 

1483
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:12,120
relation to harder assets. 
Yeah, listen, that's cool. 

1484
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,400
What the fucking ball? 
One, I wanted to give some a 

1485
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:15,080
whoos. 
Here we go. 

1486
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,440
All right, all right, all right,
right. 

1487
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:19,120
Well, Dante, thanks for coming 
on. 

1488
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Actually, let's let's do one 
more plug your plug your Twitter

1489
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,160
and then of course, guys go to 
joincolumbus.com if you're 

1490
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,720
interested in what Dante is 
doing. 

1491
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,880
But Dante, plug your Twitter 
real quick and then let's wrap 

1492
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,600
up today's show. 
All right, my Twitter is Dante 

1493
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,600
under score cook one trying to 
get to 10K. 

1494
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,800
I'm kind of a hermit on there. 
I don't post as much as I 

1495
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,480
should. 
I don't really like hanging out 

1496
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,040
on Twitter. 
It's hard for me to get out. 

1497
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,760
Like I got like literally 4 
kids. 

1498
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,160
It's hard, but still Dante under
score cook one and if you want 

1499
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,600
to learn more about Columbus, go
to join Columbus com. 

1500
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,480
We're going to start ramping up 
that like really soon come out 

1501
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:54,120
of beta like really get out in 
the public. 

1502
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,440
People like what is this whole 
Columbus thing like you're going

1503
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:58,360
to start to see really soon. 
We're pretty excited about it. 

1504
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,480
Love it bro, Love it. 
Well, you know, me too. 

1505
01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,920
I'm trying to get to 10 K2, but 
I never plugged my Twitter. 

1506
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,600
I haven't even been active on 
Twitter. 

1507
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,960
But yeah, you know, since you're
plugging, go to on Twitter and 

1508
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:13,880
follow me at Optimist Field. 
Let's get the self show in here.

1509
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,800
Anyways, Dante, really 
appreciate you coming on the 

1510
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,240
show absolutely killed it today.
Did an incredible job. 

1511
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,000
But so you know, we're going to 
have to bring you more on the on

1512
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,160
the live show because the chat 
is loving it. 

1513
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,040
Maybe it maybe it'll be a a 
trifecta with you, myself and 

1514
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,280
Nico on the on the live show one
day. 

1515
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,600
Thank you for coming in. 
And on that note, bro, let me 

1516
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,560
pull you behind the scenes and 
wrap up today's show. 

1517
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,600
All right? 
Boys and girls, mainly boys and 

1518
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,360
some girls. 
Of course, of course, of course.

1519
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,600
Like the show. 
Subscribe to our YouTube comment

1520
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,880
below. 
What you think of the stuff 

1521
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,600
we're saying, you know? 
Yeah. 

1522
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,240
But hey, let's be a little 
constructive here. 

1523
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,160
I know, I know we're, I know 
we're late a little bit. 

1524
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,120
So don't just be saying you guys
should start earlier. 

1525
01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:00,040
Be like, all right, maybe I 
agree or disagree. 

1526
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,520
We are. 
Open to constructive criticism. 

1527
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,480
Here, we love you guys. 
Have a good day and you know, 

1528
01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:08,760
piggyback off our piggybacking 
off something, Dante. 

1529
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,400
OK said. 
Go outside, touch some grass. 

1530
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,920
Eat some good food. 
Call your loved ones, hang out 

1531
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,040
with your friends and family. 
The person you are yelling with 

1532
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,400
on Twitter will be there when 
you get back. 

1533
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,880
Get off the black mirrors boys 
and girls. 

1534
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,560
On that note, I'll be back 
tomorrow same time as always of 

1535
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,760
course. 
Monday through Friday, 12:15 PM 

1536
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,560
Eastern Time. 
This has been your boy Opti and 

1537
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:38,240
this is a simply Bitcoin. 
Live peace out bybitcoinwell.com

1538
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,440
a Bitcoin only platform on a 
mission to enable financial 

1539
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:42,280
independence.
