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Bitcoin has exploded to $73,000 
and I think we're all just 

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wondering why we saw Donald 
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Clarity Act while in the 
beginning of a war in Iran. 

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A Bitcoin exchange just gave me 
an account with the Fed, but 

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it's not the one everyone 
thought it was going to be. 

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And Morgan Stanley partners with
BNY Mellon to launch a Bitcoin 

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ETF. 
There's a lot of headwinds, or 

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rather sorry, a lot of tailwinds
to discuss today. 

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But first, let's watch Jamie 
Dimon's recent clip in regards 

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to the war happening with the 
Clarity Act to really set the 

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context of what we're talking 
about today. 

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You and your peers have 
reportedly clashed with 

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Coinbase's Brian Armstrong over 
the Clarity Act and specifically

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this idea of crypto exchanges 
offering rewards for stable 

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coins. 
And Armstrong was on CNBC with 

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Sara Eisen a few weeks ago from 
Mar a Lago, and he said there's 

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a path forward for the market 
structure. 

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Bill, That's a quote, win, win 
outcome for everyone. 

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How are you feeling about it 
right now? 

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The banks feel strongly that 
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same as interest and that you 
know, a compromise would be that

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you could pay rewards on 
transactions, not balances. 

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If you are going to be holding 
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that's the bank. 
You should be regulated by a 

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bank. 
So we've been firm one thing 

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over here, yes, but if you want 
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then you can do whatever you 
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So I remind people, your viewers
may not know banks have 

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restrictions and requires FDIC 
insurance, AML, BSA. 

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We have Community Responsibility
Act, which means we have to open

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25% of our brands, LMI neighbors
with social requirements. 

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We have liquidity requirements, 
capital requirements, 

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transparency requirements, 
report requirements, 

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requirements, government 
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If they want to be a bank, so be
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So what we based is level 
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It can't be you have these 
people doing one thing, you 

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know, without any regulation 
like that, and these people do 

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another. 
And if you do do that, the 

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public will pay it will it will 
get bad. 

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So I just people should take a 
deep breath and what did you 

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want to? 
And we want competition. 

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You know, we're actually one of 
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and you know, and you know, we 
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We've moved money, real time 
payments. 

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You know, we're moving a lot of 
data now using blockchain. 

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So we're in favor of 
competition, but it's got to be 

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fair and balanced level playing 
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It's not. 
It can't be completely skewed. 

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Yeah, The Gas Lobby by Jamie 
Dimon's kind of crazy. 

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I saw a lot of people talking 
about this on Twitter and, and 

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I'm going to get into all the 
different news. 

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But as we've been covering for 
the last couple of weeks, really

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there is this war happening 
right now with the Clarity Act. 

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And we see on one side, it's the
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That's why we have Jamie Dimon. 
It's kind of the figurehead. 

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And now he's on CNBC talking 
about this war, though he is 

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saying, hey, we love 
competition. 

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And then he follows that up with
we need a level playing field. 

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They're they're literally they 
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They got, you know, $4 trillion 
bank saying, hey, Lee, look, 

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these, these crypto companies 
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field. 
We got to make sure it's a level

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competition. 
And you're just like, wow, the, 

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the insane gaslighting here by 
Jamie Dimon to really paint this

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as, Hey, the banks are here to 
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citizen. 
And, and let's not, let's not 

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like gloss over the fact that 
he, he broke the 5th wall here. 

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He's like, let, let's talk to 
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watching this. 
I'm here to protect you. 

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There is a war right now and it 
is the banks and it's, it's 

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becoming very clear. 
It was speculation for a little 

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bit, but the more news coming 
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the banks that are actively 
fighting the Clarity Act right 

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now. 
And it is over the stable coin 

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yield. 
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specifics of whether the Clarity
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beneficial for Bitcoin that I 
think that's still yet to be 

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resolved, but at least that's 
the framing. 

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And actually to start off, I was
going to start off somewhere 

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else because there is some very 
big news coming out of a Bitcoin

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exchange or you could say crypto
exchange to the point that Jamie

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Dimon said. 
But I'm going to start here with

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literally last night, Donald 
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Act or Truth Social post, 
whatever you call it, about the 

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Clarity Act. 
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were confirmed later that this 
tweet happened right after he 

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had a closed door meeting with 
Brian Armstrong, CEO, Coinbase. 

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I thought it very interesting 
that Trump is even true tweeting

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about the Clarity Act right now,
considering, you know, what's 

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happening in the Middle East. 
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there might be a bigger issues 
right now than the clarity act 

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passing, but that didn't stop 
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something and and it was very 
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So we might be seeing a war 
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versus the crypto industry. 
And it does seem like Trump has 

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thrown his hat into the ring. 
And here we go. 

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Here's the tweet. 
This was last night. 

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I can't confirm this is a real 
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This is not a fake news tweet. 
Here's Donald Trump, he goes, 

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the genius act is being 
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banks and that is unacceptable. 
Again, the kind of crypto White 

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House press secretaries or you 
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journalists have been saying 
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Clarity Act has been stalling is
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Now we have Donald Trump, of 
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United States saying the exact 
same thing and goes further, 

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goes we are not going to allow 
it. the US needs to get market 

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structure done ASAP. 
Americans should earn more money

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on their money. 
It's kind of an interesting take

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here. 
I'm not going to lie. 

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The banks are hitting record 
profits and we are not going to 

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allow them to undermine our 
powerful crypto agenda that will

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end up going to China and other 
countries if we don't get the 

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Clarity Act taken care of. 
The Genius Act was EU s s first 

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big step to make the United 
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world and getting the Clarity 
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finish the job and most 
importantly keep this big and 

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powerful industry in our 
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The bank should not be trying to
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the Clarity Act hostage. 
They need to make a good deal 

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with the crypto industry because
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interest of the American people.
This industry cannot be taken 

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from the people of America when 
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successful. 
Thank you for your attention to 

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this matter, President Donald J 
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So again, there has been a lot 
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I mean, even for me, I've, I've 
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jump of how serious the Trump 
administration is taking this 

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quote, you know, crypto capital 
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of the world. 
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getting headlines and, you know,
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just different headlines coming 
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are in fact very serious about 
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world. 
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have become very skeptical that 
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a big surprise to me when I said
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Armstrong. 
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Coinbase, but I do agree with 
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no bill is better than a bad 
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And from all the amendments that
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Clarity Act, it started to look 
like this was becoming a 

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monstrosity. 
It's, it's really probably going

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to do more damage than good. 
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Donald Trump saying, hey, we, we
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to do it correctly too. 
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that Americans can get more 
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And two, that it is in the best 
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for this to pass, which is 
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Look, with all of Donald Trump's
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of itself is a very good idea. 
Yes, I know we are the separate 

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money from state show here, but 
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as American as apple pie. 
America embracing Bitcoin, 

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embracing the 21st century of 
money, embracing digital money 

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and not from a CBDC completely 
corralled and controlled network

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dynamic is a good thing. 
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allowed to use Bitcoin to 
transact in Bitcoin and and we 

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will be able to outperform the 
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The dollar has, you know, 
constantly losing purchasing 

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power. 
And I don't know if you guys saw

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it this morning. 
I actually didn't bring it up on

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the show for you guys today 
because I I have a lot to cover 

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on on this news story, but it 
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Senator Lummis was on Squawk Box
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war in Iran, Of course, the 
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But they did talk about the de 
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minimis tax break on Bitcoin. 
Shout out to Joe Kernan on 

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Squawk Box. 
He's, he's the best Bitcoin 

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podcaster in the world 
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And he brought it up, though 
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not really in a good place on 
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Senator Lummis reiterated the 
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$600.00. 
It went down to 200. 

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Currently they're talking about 
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something worth $300 or less 
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it. 
But Joe Kernan again, and the 

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best Bitcoin podcaster, he he 
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It's like, look, if we are 
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Bitcoin, then maybe we should be
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dollar because it is literally 
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purchasing power. 
Love to see the narrative 

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spread. 
Anyways, remember what Jamie 

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Bitcoin companies, Bitcoin 
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like a bank and you know, 
provide yield on stable coins or

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rewards as the Bitcoin crypto 
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then maybe they should become a 
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Well, we did get some pretty 
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line with that idea. 
So maybe Jamie Dimon is asking 

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for something that he really 
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Maybe he thought this was a dunk
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night. 
So he wasn't Privy to this news 

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this morning. 
Maybe he thought it was a dunk 

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by saying, hey, if if crypto 
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and they should become banks. 
Well, this morning we got some 

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pretty big news. 
So I'll start there. 

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This is the news coming out this
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world first here and and I know,
you know, has to do with the 

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feds. 
So I know a lot of bitcoiners 

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are like, yeah, whatever, dude, 
What what's this? 

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What's this really mean? 
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the first crypto company to 
secure a Fed master account 

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access. 
Excuse me, the approval let's 

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Kraken speed up deposits and 
withdrawals for large traders 

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and institutional clients, But 
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So just breaking this down, 
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Reserve's master account, giving
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the Feds core payment systems 
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payments itself. 
You heard that correctly. 

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Kraken now doesn't have to deal 
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their money. 
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the Fed. 
From one perspective, this is a 

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Bitcoin Trojan horse narrative 
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From the other one, maybe you 
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we're just bending the knee to 
the Federal Reserve. 

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But guys, this is how banking 
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worse, if you're if you're doing
banking things, you're most 

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So this is a big news story. 
This is a big first for the 

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quote UN quote crypto industry. 
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perspective, the Bitcoin only 
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to see, just like a Bitcoin only
bank be the first one or Bitcoin

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only exchange be the first one. 
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little wins here. 
Going further, the approval 

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let's Kraken speed up deposits 
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and institutional clients. 
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Kraken not earning interest on 
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emergency lending. 
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like, oh, Bitcoin exchange 
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very clearly they don't get feds
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So they're still going to have 
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balances. 
They they will have to be full 

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reserve. 
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being fractional reserve here, 
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directly, which it's going to be
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improves Kraken, how this fully 
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industry and maybe very soon we 
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Bitcoin exchanges getting 
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the advantage again. 
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efforts to expand the operations
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initial public offering, 
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other crypto firms like Coinbase
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Of course, Kraken is the first 
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and Gemini, but that's because 
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the big, you know, exit for all 
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C-Suite of these exchanges, It's
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And you know, a lot of people 
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OK, what is this master account?
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already. 
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access to the feds core payment 
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first one. 
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of the crypto, you know, sector 
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But this does show that Bitcoin 
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the banking system. 
Yes, I know Trojan horse meme of

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Bitcoin hasn't been going the 
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and foremost, Bitcoin has to get
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That's just how it's going to 
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I know there's been a lot of 
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Bitcoin being a parallel 
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thing and eventually people will
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ignore the traditional financial
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It's, it's a good theory, but in
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services. 
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You still have to use banking 
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So I know there's a lot of talk 
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medium exchange, but for most of
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can do the heavy work of trying 
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a certain point you're still 
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the Fiat system. 
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Fed. 
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So we're seeing a war with the 
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crypto industry. 
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the crypto industry here. 
We're seeing Kraken get a master

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account at the Fed. 
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historic moment right now in 
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And then of course, the bigger 
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news, but a big news in the same
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Wall Street is. 
Our institutions are for Bitcoin

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and it brings its own problems. 
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problems as we are currently 
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But we see Morgan Stanley now 
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custody in a proposed Bitcoin 
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So more ETFs, though this one is
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This is a Bitcoin trust. 
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transfer agent and cash 
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proposed Bitcoin trust. 
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the Bitcoin trust might actually
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But Morgan Stanley filed with 
the Seca perspective outlining 

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the structure of a proposed 
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revealing that the fund plans to
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Bank of New York Mellons to 
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according to the S1 submitted. 
So big banks coming into custody

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Bitcoin, they're partnering with
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But again, as we've been 
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reiterating the same idea about 
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saying is going to drive us into
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It is, of course, the FAZBE 
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the bank's custody Bitcoin. 
Well, we're starting to see more

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of the bank's custody in 
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Now, again, this does come with 
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I would say personally, I'm not 
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brand names to be custodying my 
Bitcoin because I sell custody 

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my Bitcoin, as the meme always 
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didn't pull it out for you guys.
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As the meme goes, you know, you 
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anymore because you can become 
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And that of course, that also 
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vectors here. 
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of people are waiting for the 
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when in reality, you don't need 
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You just need to, you know, sell
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But it is a stark contrast to 
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know, 15-16 years of Bitcoin, 
where we've been on the outside,

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we've been getting fought and 
we've been kind of relegated 

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into the dark corners of the 
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And ever since last year, now 
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a, a gradual move into Bitcoin. 
And for all of us that's been in

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Bitcoin for a long time, that 
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institutions are here, you know,
they're going to save Bitcoin, 

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they're going to pump our pump 
our bags. 

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It hasn't really happened yet 
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like we're seeing with this 
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Mellon ETF. 
It, it takes, it takes a while. 

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They, these institutions move 
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you guys remember who one of the
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Can you connect the two? 
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One of the biggest donors to the
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banking family, the Mellons. 
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they're getting into Bitcoin. 
Look, I think you guys seen me 

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on the show be like, I don't 
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Bitcoin and politics to collide.
Yes, I've gotten more political.

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Yes, this show has gotten more 
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Rightly so, in my opinion, 
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you're seeing the political 
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behind Bitcoin. 
The institutional machine is 

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starting to get behind Bitcoin. 
Again, there's pros and cons to 

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this. 
Obviously the Pro is always 

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they're going to pump our bags 
That that that's all I care 

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about really. 
It's like, are they going to 

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pump our bags? 
If they do, all right, cool, we 

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don't really need you, but I'll,
I'll take some, you know, some 

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bag, pump it, cheer. 
On the flip side, we are seeing 

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there is this seemingly 
coordinated effort to 

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centralized a lot of Bitcoin to 
literally incentivize you to 

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give get rid of your Bitcoin 
into these products. 

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And then they can do whatever 
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do or whatever crazy plan they 
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As I always say, it's usually 
about the shit corners. 

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You know, shit corners love 
Bitcoin, They just love your 

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Bitcoin more. 
I think we can, you know, put an

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iteration on this. 
Wall Street loves Bitcoin. 

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They just love your Bitcoin 
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So you have to do whatever you 
can to make sure that you do not

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give up your Bitcoin. 
Do not fall for the siren song. 

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Now I know we're all wondering 
what exactly is pushing the 

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Bitcoin price, like why is 
Bitcoin currently in the face of

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macro geopolitical uncertainty 
that you would expect Bitcoin to

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drop? 
I was fully expecting Bitcoin to

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crash on Monday and here we are.
Bitcoin is up at 73 K. 

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It is a very interesting thought
experiment that I will talk 

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about towards the end of the 
show 'cause I'm going to compare

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it to other assets currently and
how well Bitcoin has performed 

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so. 
Maybe there's not one storyline 

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that is pumping Bitcoin right 
now. 

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It could be as Nick Bhatia 
tweeted, a combination of all 

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these things. 
He's like I reflect reflected on

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this morning Bitcoin news for a 
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This was at 10 AM. 
You know, this news came out in 

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the morning. 
He goes. 

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The combination of cracking, 
getting a Federal Reserve master

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account, Morgan Stanley filing 
for a Bitcoin ETF with BNY 

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Mellon as custodian feels like 
just another institutional 

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adoption Newsday. 
But in reality, it's probably 

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one of those days that changes 
the game again forever in 

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bitcoins favor the USA is 
Bitcoin country. 

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And I think with the news of 
Trump coming out and really 

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standing on the frontline to 
being like, look, we have to get

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this clarity act through. 
It really is oh, I didn't pull 

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it up. 
It really is kind of changing 

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the tide here, especially when 
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in another war in Iran right 
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A lot of a lot of conversation, 
a lot of contention of whether 

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we're in a forever war or 
whether this is going to end in,

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you know, a few days, a few 
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We really don't know what's 
going on. 

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And that is where I was most 
curious about this this morning.

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It's like like Trump, I feel 
like has a lot more on his plate

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this morning in, in regards to 
what is happening in Iran that 

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the fact that he's tweeting 
about the clarity act now, it is

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a, it is a strange move to me 
personally. 

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Now, you guys in the chat might 
think differently, but from my 

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kind of, you know, game theory 
of what is the highest bullet 

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point on Trump's list of things 
he needs to do, I was fully 

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convinced that the crypto stuff,
the Bitcoin stuff, the Clarity 

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Act would be at the lower part 
of his list. 

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And here we are in the middle of
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He thinks it's important to be 
tweeting about the Clarity Act. 

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Now, you could argue a lot of 
different ways on this. 

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I know some of the chat is not 
so Trump friendly. 

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I've been very critical on 
Trump. 

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Nico is still wrapping his head 
around the idea of is Trump good

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or bad for Bitcoin? 
Was it a mistake to vote him in 

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again? 
I truly believe that the Bitcoin

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idea, the Bitcoin superpower of 
the world, I think it is a good 

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idea. 
We saw it take place in El 

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Salvador. 
It was a great idea for El 

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Salvador. 
Though El Salvador is a tiny 

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country, it's a blip on the map.
the US being the world reserve 

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superpower, being the head 
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Embracing Bitcoin is a huge 
narrative shift from what we've 

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been doing in Bitcoin in the 
past to where we currently are 

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now. 
Now I know a lot of us and me 

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included, and some of you guys 
in the chat, we look at Trump 

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getting into Bitcoin and we're 
probably wondering and debating 

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like, was it really a good idea?
It it's almost like he's done 

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more harm to our space than good
recently. 

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But if the clarity Act does get 
approved or the bill that 

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they're going to vote through 
does get approved and it is 

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favorable for the industry and 
capital does come into Bitcoin 

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or sorry, into the US for 
Bitcoin and crypto at large. 

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I think it will be one of those 
defining moments. 

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So I do, I don't want to do the,
the, the, you know, 

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quintessential, like sometimes 
centuries happened in days and 

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sometimes there's centuries that
nothing happened. 

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But today's news story does or 
multiple news stories does seem 

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like one of those days that we 
will probably be looking back on

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and being like, OK, you know, in
hindsight, the signs were there.

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It's very obvious what is going 
on. 

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I think a lot of the 
uncertainty, a lot of the 

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division going on right now, I 
really believe that the Bitcoin 

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stuff, the crypto stuff was 
going to just completely be 

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sidelined, not talked about 
again, especially since the 

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midterms are coming up. 
But Trump found it very 

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important to be tweeting about 
this. 

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And again, you know, he just, he
did have a meeting with Brian 

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Armstrong and the timeline 
apparently suggests that he had 

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a closed door meeting with Brian
Armstrong. 

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Then he tweeted this. 
So maybe Brian Armstrong was 

450
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,240
able to get in his ear and be 
like, look, it's the banks that 

451
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,400
are fighting us. 
We want to try to get what your 

452
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,160
agenda is across the goal line, 
but it's the banks that are 

453
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,520
fighting us yesterday, like the 
clip I played you Jamie Diamonds

454
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,840
out here like, hey, we want you 
know, we're we're not the ones 

455
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,280
that are slowing the clarity Act
Bill is like, we want to get 

456
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,920
this done. 
We just want to make sure it's 

457
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,400
fair and competitive and level 
playing field where they're 

458
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,360
literally the biggest bank in 
the world and they probably have

459
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,720
all of the not so fair 
advantages here. 

460
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,640
The timing is very interesting 
from my opinion and especially 

461
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,600
now that Bitcoin is pumping 
well, I mean, for us, that's 

462
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,680
been around for a while. 
This could be considered a, you 

463
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,800
know, pump for ants here. 
But the fact that Bitcoin is at 

464
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,320
73 K and we're seeing all these 
news, I don't think we can 

465
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,680
pinpoint one specific news line 
to really explain the Bitcoin 

466
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,320
pump. 
I think it's a multitude of 

467
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,040
factors right now. 
And of course, the simple supply

468
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,240
demand dynamics of Bitcoin. 
It's probably just because 

469
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,600
someone wants to buy a lot of 
Bitcoin. 

470
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080
The reason the Bitcoin price 
goes up, it's because people are

471
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,400
buying Bitcoin right now. 
But again, that narrative in and

472
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,840
of itself is very interesting 
considering I think most of us 

473
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800
would think that World War Three
would be bad for Bitcoin. 

474
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,680
Now, we're still not necessarily
in World War Three, but that is 

475
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,920
what the narrative is. 
It's like, man, did did Trump 

476
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,400
just start World War 3 and now 
he's focused on Bitcoin and the 

477
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,800
Clarity Act passing? 
It's like I think he's got 

478
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,240
bigger fish to fry right now. 
But hey, it seems like they're 

479
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,400
still very serious to try to get
the Clarity Act across. 

480
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,520
Excuse me. 
And I know, like I said, there 

481
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,920
was like a kind of a pseudo 
deadline of March 1st. 

482
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Now that's the deadline that 
Trump wanted to make it happen. 

483
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,240
It's not the official deadline. 
There's still speculations and 

484
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,120
rumors that we might get 
something for the Clarity Act 

485
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:37,920
through by the end of March. 
So this is an ongoing developing

486
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,800
story here. 
Again, I'm I'm really not 

487
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,520
holding my breath on it, but 
this is some positive momentum 

488
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,360
that the clarity Act will pass. 
And the only reason most 

489
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,960
bitcoiners probably want the 
clarity Act is the whole 

490
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,600
regulatory, you know, rules of 
the road here is most likely, or

491
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,000
at least this is the thesis 
going to attract more capital 

492
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,680
into Bitcoin. 
The idea is that a lot of 

493
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,680
institutions and investors are 
sitting on the sideline until 

494
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,360
they get some clear rules of the
road. 

495
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,320
Now, obviously there's other 
factors playing out right now, 

496
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,480
which is of course, the war in 
the Middle East. 

497
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,920
I think a lot of investors, a 
lot of people that are looking 

498
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,880
where to deploy their capital 
are sitting on the sidelines. 

499
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,480
They're not really sure, but the
markets are reacting very 

500
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,280
interesting. 
They they've been whipsawing in 

501
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,880
equities, in gold and silver 
this morning. 

502
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Almost everything is up. 
So it's very interesting when 

503
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,560
you try to understand the 
investing mentality here. 

504
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,240
It's like, is our investors 
pricing in the idea that we're 

505
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,760
not going to be in a forever 
war? 

506
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:50,400
Are they finally fully digesting
the fact that we are in a new 

507
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,800
war in the Middle East, even 
though Trump said we weren't 

508
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,080
going to be there? 
So I think we are starting to 

509
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,520
see that people are currently at
least going through the 1st 

510
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,080
phases of deploying their 
capital where they think it it 

511
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,960
needs to go so that they can get
a really good return. 

512
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,000
So we'll see. 
We're we're definitely on the 

513
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400
sidelines, us bit corners that 
are all in. 

514
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,520
We're just kind of sitting here 
like twiddling our thumbs just 

515
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,840
like, OK, can something happen? 
Can something finally happen? 

516
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,600
Because it's been slow, it's 
been boring. 

517
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,040
The news has been pretty slow 
recently. 

518
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,200
And then this morning we get a 
bunch of news happening and 

519
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,680
you're like, OK, well, maybe 
maybe the first, you know, first

520
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,040
month or two of the year was 
very slow. 

521
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,040
And maybe now we're going to 
ramp up the news cycle and a 

522
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,120
bunch of things are going to 
happen just consecutively 

523
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,040
back-to-back to back. 
Now, I, I don't have any insight

524
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,040
if we're going to get anything 
big happening this week, but it 

525
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,760
does seem like the, you know, 
the actions around Bitcoin are, 

526
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,600
are starting to ramp up a little
bit. 

527
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640
So I wouldn't be surprised if we
start seeing some fireworks 

528
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,960
happening in Bitcoin, whether 
it's big news story, whether 

529
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,880
it's the price start going up. 
Though I did ask you guys 

530
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,640
yesterday, do you guys think 
this is a suckers rally? 

531
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560
I think a lot of us are thinking
it is a suckers rally. 

532
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Obviously, I'm, I'm on the 
opposite side. 

533
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,120
I'm like, Nah, bro, I told you 
the bear market wasn't going to 

534
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,080
go to 40. 
KII told you we were going to go

535
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,480
sideways. 
Yes, it went lower than I 

536
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,680
thought it was. 
So I'm I'm still, I'm still 

537
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,760
unsure. 
I'm 5050 right now. 

538
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,520
I'm prepared for the worst, but 
I am starting to get hopeful. 

539
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,600
I am starting to get a little 
bullish that hey, maybe this 

540
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,920
isn't the absolute breakout out 
of the bear market, but this 

541
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400
could be the beginning of the 
end of the bear market. 

542
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,360
If that's the case, then we 
might not have to wait till 

543
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,280
October to get a bottom here. 
We might not even have to wait 

544
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,000
till summertime to get a bottom 
here. 

545
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,640
We could start seeing the price 
action respond very well. 

546
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,280
And I, I've been seeing some, 
some, you know, Bitcoin 

547
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
influencers saying that Bitcoin 
always goes up in March and 

548
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,440
we're going to crash after 
March. 

549
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,160
That could be the case. 
This could be the suckers rally.

550
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,280
This, this could be, you know, 
historically Bitcoin does pretty

551
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,640
well in March. 
So this could be the fake out 

552
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,280
pump and then we dump again. 
So I'm not going to get too 

553
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,760
excited here, but I am starting 
to get a little more optimistic 

554
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,600
about where we currently are in 
the bear market cycle. 

555
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Again, only hindsight will show 
me whether I was right or wrong.

556
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,040
So look, I, I leave, you know, 
the optionality of me changing 

557
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,080
my opinion as more information 
comes in, but it, it's looking 

558
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400
pretty good. 
Again, the biggest surprising 

559
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,800
thing for me is 1, how Bitcoin 
has reacted on the news of a, a 

560
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,040
new war in the Middle East. 
And then two, Trump talking 

561
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,000
about the clarity act while he's
in the middle of operation Epic 

562
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Fury, you know, continuing this 
mission in the Middle East. 

563
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,680
It's just the, the coincidences,
the timing, however you want to 

564
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,080
look at this, It's all very 
interesting from my opinion. 

565
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800
It's starting to make the case 
like, oh, OK, maybe maybe the 

566
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,840
bear market wasn't as bad as we 
all expected it to be, which is 

567
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,400
kind of what a lot of people 
been saying. 

568
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,880
No 8, you know, no blow off top,
therefore no 80% correction 

569
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,600
could be playing out like this. 
So the point remains the same 

570
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,480
for you guys that are just 
stacking Bitcoin continuously, 

571
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,920
that don't look at the price. 
This really doesn't change 

572
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400
anything. 
But the narratives around 

573
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Bitcoin, the, the, the 
happenings, the news stories 

574
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,280
that are happening around 
Bitcoin, it is starting to, you 

575
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
know, change course. 
It is starting to feel a little 

576
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,200
more positive for the Bitcoin 
industry. 

577
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,640
Maybe the end of this year we 
will be seeing some fireworks. 

578
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,640
It's all I'm saying, May maybe 
the doom and gloom 

579
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,760
demoralization of Bitcoiners, 
maybe we saw the worst behind 

580
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920
us. 
It's all I'm saying here, guys. 

581
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,520
That's all I'm going to say. 
OK, now for the rest of the 

582
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,560
show. 
I do have an interesting clip 

583
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,760
coming out of Fox News in 
regards to the, you know, free 

584
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Iran. 
What what happens if the Trump 

585
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,640
administration is successful in 
Iran and what that means for 

586
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Bitcoin. 
Again, shouts out to Charles 

587
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Payne, another really great 
Bitcoin podcaster. 

588
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
He's not really, he's on Fox 
News, but he's pro Bitcoin. 

589
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,880
And then we got some interesting
news coming out of the ECB. 

590
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,360
My girl, Chrissy Lagarde, she's 
getting very scared here and 

591
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,000
saying the obvious out loud. 
She's saying the quiet parts out

592
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,560
loud, guys, maybe we are 
winning. 

593
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,680
Maybe this is what winning feels
like and then like I said a 

594
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,080
minute ago to in the culture, I 
am going to analyze a little bit

595
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,320
of how Bitcoin has reacted in 
regards to all of these 

596
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,560
geopolitical macro events. 
And you know, spoiler, Bitcoin's

597
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,440
still doing the best in regards 
to all of the crazy stuff 

598
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,560
happening. 
So first commercial break, I'll 

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All right, guys. 
So Chad, you guys are funny. 

639
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The current Bitcoin price is 
$73,150 per Bitcoin, which is a 

640
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,440
42% discount from all time high.
The market cap, it's inching 

641
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,240
back up guys. 
We're getting closer to 2 

642
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,840
trillion. 
That $1.3 trillion market cap, 

643
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520
man, that was brutal. 
It's really making me feel bad 

644
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,800
about myself here. 
We're currently at 1.46 

645
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,720
trillion. 
The block height TikTok next 

646
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,400
block, the universal time on 
planet Earth is the block 

647
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,600
height. 
We are currently at 939,296. 

648
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,880
All right guys. 
So as I was telling you, we are 

649
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,680
seeing interesting stuff, some 
interesting developments. 

650
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:45,960
And you know, what we like to do
here on the show a lot is some 

651
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560
days we don't just talk about 
the news per SE. 

652
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,640
We talk about how the corporate 
press, the propaganda machines 

653
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,600
talk about Bitcoin. 
And obviously for the entire 

654
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,920
history of Bitcoin, they usually
have a bias bent against 

655
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Bitcoin. 
And only in the last few years 

656
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,640
really because of Joe Kernan on 
Squawk Box and Charles Payne on 

657
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Fox News did we see a a more 
positive view on Bitcoin. 

658
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,040
And This is why I call them the 
Bitcoin podcasters, the best 

659
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,720
Bitcoin podcasters. 
It's, it's really 'cause they 

660
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:26,440
have huge platforms and they 
obviously are pro Bitcoin. 

661
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,480
This clip is pretty interesting 
though. 

662
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,480
From my perspective, I would say
maybe it's a little hopium. 

663
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,240
It, it, it's, it's a little 
hopeful. 

664
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:43,080
OK, it, it, I think while the, 
the, the theory is probably 

665
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,160
correct, I think it's assuming a
lot. 

666
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,520
But nonetheless, the fact that 
we're hearing this come out on 

667
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Fox News is very interesting 
though. 

668
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,240
We, we could, we got to be 100% 
obvious honest here. 

669
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,760
Like in the last few weeks or 
sorry, the last few days I have 

670
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,680
been flipping between CNN, Fox 
News, CNBC, just to see how each

671
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,280
side is talking about the war in
Iran, just to see what 

672
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,600
narratives they're talking 
about. 

673
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,120
You know what, what the bias is,
who's pro who's, who's for it? 

674
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,840
You know who's somewhat neutral 
on this idea? 

675
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,920
Obviously, you could probably 
guess who's who just based on 

676
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,560
what I what I said. 
And Fox News, obviously they've 

677
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000
been very favorable towards the 
war in Iran. 

678
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,440
So this is a favorable take on 
the war in Iran. 

679
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,920
But they brought in an 
interesting take here, which is 

680
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Bitcoin. 
And we're seeing this 

681
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,960
conversation happen on Fox News,
on the public press, the 

682
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,760
corporate press, this idea of 
like, wait, and actually me and 

683
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Sophie were talking about this. 
We were, we were joking about a 

684
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,680
title for a show. 
And it's like, is World War 

685
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,120
three actually good for Bitcoin?
Like how come Bitcoin's pumping?

686
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,400
Why are we seeing on Fox News 
they talk favorably about 

687
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,960
Bitcoin in the context of a war.
I know Bitcoin in from our 

688
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,800
perspective, one of our big 
memes is this idea of Bitcoin 

689
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,480
being anti war Fiat being pro 
war Fiat is literally the money 

690
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920
of war. 
They, they took a pretty 

691
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,080
interesting, interesting take 
on, on this clip on Fox News. 

692
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,440
So I'm going to play again. 
You know, I think directionally 

693
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,280
it's probably correct in the 
sense of like, yeah, I, I can 

694
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,600
see this playing out. 
I think it's, it's a bit 

695
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,360
hopeful, but let me play the 
clip and then and then I'll I'll

696
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,560
gauge your guys's opinion on it.
87% of the Iranians inside Iran 

697
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,080
and 93% of Iranians outside Iran
are ready to topple that down 

698
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,160
this region. 
We have a leader, Reza Pahlavi, 

699
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,080
who's going to lead the 
transition into a free Iran. 

700
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,040
And after that, Oh my gosh, it 
is going to be a new day in the 

701
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,320
world. 
Less Fewer proxy world wars, 

702
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,400
less terrorism. 
A new ally for the US with a lot

703
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,040
of energy. 
And that's why you talk about a 

704
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,440
freedom run with the big picture
because everyone's looking right

705
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,120
now at oil prices. 
You're like, forget about about 

706
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,360
that. 
Let's look at the big, big 

707
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,600
picture. 
Good coin. 

708
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,120
I just talked about it with 
David forming a bottom here. 

709
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,760
Are you buying Bitcoin here? 
So here's another I'm going to 

710
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,880
actually bring back Iran. 
Islamic regime actually controls

711
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,880
2 to 5% of Bitcoin hash rate 
globally. 

712
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,240
So because it's again the 
energy, so supply of Bitcoin in 

713
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,280
the free Iran is potentially 
going to go down. 

714
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,240
What does that mean? 
Low supply for the market, low 

715
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,800
supply, high demand. 
So yes, I'm buying. 

716
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Love it. 
Love it. 

717
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Yeah. 
You know, more demand usually 

718
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,520
means Bitcoin price goes up 
again. 

719
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,000
The framing is the most 
interesting aspect of this. 

720
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,240
They're on Fox News, 
historically right leaning. 

721
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:49,920
They are pro, pro whatever the 
Republican president does. 

722
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,720
So they are painting the war in 
Iran very favorably. 

723
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,120
You know, a free Iran is kind of
the idea. 

724
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,920
If you guys remember what Trump 
said in regards to why they did 

725
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Operation Epic Fury, it was 
essentially to destroy the 

726
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640
leadership there and let the 
people, you know, rise, let the 

727
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,160
people take control of their 
government. 

728
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,720
There's still a lot of debate if
whether that is actually going 

729
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:17,480
to happen, that they are trying 
to do the Venezuela model on 

730
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Iran, though, apparently, you 
know, wasn't able to happen over

731
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,160
the weekend. 
It wasn't able to happen from 

732
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Friday night to Monday morning. 
We're there now. 

733
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,480
And the narratives that we are 
hearing from the Trump 

734
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,400
administration is, is a little 
conflicted. 

735
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,480
They started off with, hey, this
is going to be 4 to 5 days and 

736
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,200
then it's going to be 4 to 6 
months. 

737
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,200
And now the the most recent 
headlines are like, we don't 

738
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,600
know if we're going to be there 
for a little bit. 

739
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,440
We might be there for a lot 
longer. 

740
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:48,080
Trump is even saying forever 
wars now. 

741
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,840
So look, the idea, at least the 
official narrative is like, this

742
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,440
is going to be short. 
This is going to be quick. 

743
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,400
We will be seeing a free Iran 
and and that's at least what 

744
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,320
they want to happen. 
Now whether that will happen is 

745
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,880
a totally different 
conversation. 

746
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,720
But again, bringing the Bitcoins
narrative back in here, the 

747
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,040
Bitcoin story of this is they're
on Fox News talking about, hey, 

748
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,720
a free Iran will obviously 
benefit Bitcoin in in a few 

749
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:17,440
ways. 
The people will be able to save 

750
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,720
in Bitcoin. 
As we saw when I showed you guys

751
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,120
the chart yesterday, since the 
war or actually preceding the 

752
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,800
war, the build up to the war, we
are seeing a lot of money on 

753
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,360
Iranian exchanges or from 
Iranian citizens flowing into 

754
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,800
Bitcoin and we're seeing that 
Bitcoin leave the exchanges. 

755
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,520
So the Bitcoin narrative of when
you need Bitcoin because of 

756
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600
geopolitical uncertainty, 
because you maybe don't trust 

757
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,600
your government, because you 
know when there is a war, it's 

758
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,080
hard to get your money out of 
the banks. 

759
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,640
We are seeing that flight to 
safety into Bitcoin as 

760
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,840
Bitcoiners have always been 
saying this was going to happen.

761
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,000
It's happening now. 
The interesting take on this is 

762
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,680
like, hey, there's a lot of 
energy, of course, in the Middle

763
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,520
East. 
They do have a significant 

764
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,840
amount of hash rate. 
Now, will that increase if there

765
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,640
is a free Iran or further, will 
the proliferation of Bitcoin 

766
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,400
increase in the country? 
Once people to understand the 

767
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,000
power of Bitcoin, that idea 
that, hey, you don't have to 

768
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,400
trust the banks, you don't have 
to trust the traditional banking

769
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,880
system. 
All you have to do is get money 

770
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,840
into it, take it off the 
exchange. 

771
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,640
So if this does play out exactly
like the Trump administration 

772
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,040
views it, well, a short term 
free Iran, then you could kind 

773
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,160
of venture to guess or at least 
speculate that Iran might become

774
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,800
a a hotbed for or maybe that's 
not the best and they might 

775
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:50,240
become a a perfect soil for a 
circular economy to build in 

776
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,840
Iran. 
Now, that is the fabled, you 

777
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,360
know, moving goal post that 
Bitcoiners always like to talk 

778
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,320
about this idea that true 
Bitcoin adoption is not just 

779
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,120
about the price going up, but 
it's people actually using 

780
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,680
Bitcoin. 
And by that they mean using 

781
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,120
Bitcoin as money. 
Though I would argue what we're 

782
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,800
seeing from the data is Iranians
actually using Bitcoin as a 

783
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,480
flight to safety, as a store of 
value, as something that if you 

784
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,520
do need to move, you put it in 
Bitcoin. 

785
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,720
And it's a lot easier to move 
cross-border than, you know, 

786
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,400
say, a hyperinflating currency 
or gold or jewelry or whatever 

787
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,000
it is. 
This is the use case of Bitcoin 

788
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,880
happening, being tried, being 
tested and fully vindicated in 

789
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,240
real time. 
You actually love to see it. 

790
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,520
It is. 
It is a a bit bittersweet 

791
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,960
considering the chaos and the 
turmoil that's happening over 

792
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,240
there. 
But this is what Bitcoiners have

793
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:50,640
been saying for a long time. 
This is why you need Bitcoin for

794
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,640
anyone out there that's saying 
there's no use case for Bitcoin.

795
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,000
I don't think this is a better 
like you couldn't have a better 

796
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,720
example than to be like, look, 
this is on the ground real time 

797
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,440
use of Bitcoin that no other 
money in the world can even come

798
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,000
close to. 
It's, it's honestly, again, it's

799
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,520
bittersweet and it sounds kind 
of messed up to say, but this 

800
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,760
is, this is great to see. 
You'd love to see that. 

801
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Yes, there is turmoil in the 
Middle East. 

802
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,880
Yes, you the, the Iranian rial 
is absolutely hyperinflating 

803
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,320
currently and we are seeing a 
flight to safety to Bitcoin. 

804
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Anyone that says there's no use 
case for Bitcoin, all you're 

805
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,520
doing is hoarding Bitcoin. 
I this this might be one of 

806
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
those new stories to really pull
on their heartstrings. 

807
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,280
Now, you know, not to say that 
we need to emotionally 

808
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:53,080
manipulate everyone to buy into 
Bitcoin, but emotionally 

809
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:59,400
persuasive data points do get 
people to start to change their 

810
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960
tune around Bitcoin. 
So it is a very interesting 

811
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,080
development to just see that Fox
News talking about the war, 

812
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,120
they're talking about Bitcoin 
being a use case to offset the 

813
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,800
troubles of the Iranian people. 
It's happening, guys. 

814
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,280
It really is happening. 
Now I know I've been critical. 

815
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,920
I've been cynical on the idea of
like, if this is what winning 

816
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,760
feels like, it doesn't feel that
good. 

817
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,720
OK, I I've been on that boat. 
I am, I am on that boat. 

818
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,040
But seeing these data points are
seeing these news stories, 

819
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,960
seeing this happen in real time,
it does make me feel a little 

820
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,880
more optimistic about where 
we're going. 

821
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,960
It does make me, you know, feel 
less of a doomer, less, you 

822
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,240
know, beat down, less 
demoralized because Bitcoin is 

823
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,600
working exactly as it's been 
designed. 

824
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,200
As we've all been saying, it's 
doing exactly as it should be 

825
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,440
when people need it most. 
And that's probably the biggest 

826
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,880
take away for Bitcoin. 
Yes, you know, we want the 

827
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,160
Bitcoin price to run. 
We want Bitcoin to go up. 

828
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:10,160
We personally, I feel cheated by
not having you know, number go 

829
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,000
up in 2025, but Bitcoin is 
winning. 

830
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,600
People are using Bitcoin when 
they need it and that is one of 

831
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,760
those narratives or rather one 
of those memes, those rhetorical

832
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,320
tools that bitcoiners have been 
using. 

833
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,160
It's hey, like bitcoins not 
going away, TikTok next block. 

834
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,360
Bitcoin will be there for you 
when you need it most and it's 

835
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,600
happening guys. 
So there is Silver Linings 

836
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,880
throughout all of the crazy 
stuff that we're seeing in the 

837
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,080
world right now. 
There is a silver lining 

838
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:43,560
starting off 2026. 
Maybe, maybe, just maybe, I'm 

839
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,920
going to have to be a little 
more stoic here. 

840
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,520
You know, I'm I I can't let my 
emotions run with the price with

841
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,680
the headlines. 
This is a bittersweet feel good 

842
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,240
news story in my opinion. 
And hey, bitcoins working like 

843
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,600
we we thought it would all right
guys, this one's going to be a 

844
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,520
little fun. 
I actually here's a here. 

845
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,080
There was a good comment in here
by one of one of our friends in 

846
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,560
the chat. 
Let me let me just say this 

847
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,960
comment before, if I can find 
it, before I move into, yeah, 

848
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,840
here we go, our boy Winsome. 
And I'm saying this because I 

849
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,920
think it sets a good context for
the ECB news that we're going to

850
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,440
see winsome hacks goes if you 
steal something, you end up not 

851
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,840
being allowed to do certain 
jobs, not when you're Lagarde's 

852
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,840
social class. 
So just just keep that little 

853
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,800
troll in mind while we talk 
about the ECB in the next 

854
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,960
segment. 
I'll be right back. 

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Everybody OK, maybe, maybe 
later, maybe you'll get one 

899
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minute. 
All right. 

900
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,960
OK, guys, get get this. 
So a new European Central Bank 

901
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,040
paper, dropped research paper 
and the short of it, and I will 

902
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,320
read just a little bit of it, 
but the short of it is the ECB 

903
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,040
dropped a paper warning that 
growing stablecoin adoption 

904
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,400
could pull deposits out of 
banks, constrained lending and 

905
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,480
weaken its ability to transmit 
money, transmit monetary policy 

906
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,440
with the risk rising sharply as 
adoption scale. 

907
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,360
It's almost like that's the 
point, right? 

908
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Like I, I look Chrissy or ECB, 
she didn't write it. 

909
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,480
It's like, you know, it's almost
like that's the point. 

910
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,880
It's almost like you're pointing
out the obvious. 

911
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Again, we're seeing we, we are 
seeing a narrative from banks, 

912
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,440
central banks, regional banks, 
you know, the Jamie Diamonds, 

913
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,000
the Christie Lagarde, the Jerome
Powells of the world really 

914
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,320
point out the obvious of what 
Bitcoin and I guess further 

915
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,560
stable coins are doing. 
And they kind of painted as 

916
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,000
like, oh, this is a bad thing 
and you're just like, no, like 

917
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,640
this, like that's the point. 
This is the point, This is the 

918
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,040
point of this. 
Okay, so anyways, let me let me 

919
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,760
pull up the paper real quick 
here is on the ECB. 

920
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,440
This is actually from the 
European Central Bank. 

921
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,920
I went, I went to the 
government, I searched for it 

922
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,680
guys, and it is titled Working 
Paper Series, Stable Coins and 

923
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Monetary Policy transmission. 
Again, you know, it's 46 pages. 

924
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,240
We're not going to read this 
mumbo jumbo, but I will read a 

925
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,640
little bit, not the abstract, 
but the non-technical summary, 

926
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,640
of course, start talking about 
digital assets and how people 

927
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,600
are starting to use it and how, 
you know, the central bank might

928
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,880
need to update their 
infrastructure. 

929
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,320
At the very least, keep in mind 
that this is a phenomenon that's

930
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,360
happening. 
So here's the first point with 

931
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,080
the question How do stable coins
affect banks? 

932
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,640
The first key finding is that 
growing use of stable coins can 

933
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,920
lead people and firms to move 
money out of the traditional 

934
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,160
bank deposits and into digital 
assets. 

935
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,960
Again, dude, the absolute 
obvious like these guys get paid

936
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,520
to do. 
I thought these guys were smart.

937
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,280
What are we doing here? 
And it goes. 

938
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,360
Banks rely heavily on deposits 
as a stable and low cost source 

939
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,120
of funding to support lending 
the households and businesses. 

940
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,160
When deposits decline, banks may
be forced to rely more on 

941
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,400
wholesale or market based 
funding, which is typically more

942
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,800
expensive and less stable. 
Our analysis shows that 

943
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,720
increasing interest in and 
attention towards stable coins 

944
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:59,440
are associated with a measurable
decline in retail bank deposits 

945
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,880
and a reduction in bank lending 
to firms. 

946
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,080
In other words, stablecoins can 
reduce the amount of credit 

947
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,880
banks provide to the real 
economy. 

948
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,200
Importantly, these effects are 
non linear and depend critically

949
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,280
on the scale of stablecoin 
adoption, their design features 

950
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,640
and their regulatory treatment. 
Yeah, that is literally the 

951
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,480
point. 
Bitcoin, and I guess to some 

952
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:27,280
extent stablecoins do limit your
ability to create money out of 

953
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,440
thin air. 
This is the point of all this. 

954
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,160
If you don't understand how 
banking works, very simply, and 

955
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,720
maybe this is too simple, but 
when you give your money to a 

956
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,480
bank, they take your money. 
It doesn't sit in an account 

957
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,760
untouched. 
They take your money and they 

958
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,400
lend that money so that they can
make a return, therefore 

959
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,440
expanding the money supply, 
creating literally money out of 

960
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,840
thin air. 
You got to remember, debt is 

961
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,520
money. 
Those dollar bills you have in 

962
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,000
your pocket, that is just an 
IOU. 

963
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,120
That is just a claim on debt. 
It's not real. 

964
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,920
It's literally just a paper IOU 
saying, hey, this was created 

965
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,240
out of thin air. 
This is someone's debt that we 

966
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,680
are monitoring advertising so 
that you can use it as a 

967
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,960
currency. 
Here we have the ECB report 

968
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,760
stating the absolute obvious. 
It's like it's yes, this is the 

969
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,320
point. 
At at least we can all agree on 

970
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,560
that. 
This is the war going on. 

971
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,080
Hence this whole theme of 
today's show is very simple. 

972
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,840
And someone in the chat said it 
earlier. 

973
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,960
I think it was down under Blues.
He's like, this is a war with 

974
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,920
Fiat. 
This is Bitcoin versus Fiat 

975
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,040
currency. 
This is a monetary war 

976
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,800
happening. 
It's not kinetic, it's not 

977
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,200
violent. 
It is an ideological information

978
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,120
war. 
But finally we're seeing the ECB

979
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,840
acknowledge what is going on. 
Yes, if people start using 

980
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,640
Bitcoin, you will have less 
money to create more debt. 

981
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,200
That is the literal point of 
this. 

982
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,800
That is what we're trying to do.
I'm glad we can agree on the 

983
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,480
terms. 
Finally, though of course, this 

984
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,640
this report, it's making this 
seem like a bad thing, which in 

985
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,080
in fact is really a good thing. 
Now going further goes, what 

986
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,520
does this mean for monetary 
policy? 

987
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,120
The second finding concerns how 
monetary policy works in the 

988
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,560
euro area. 
Banks play a central role in 

989
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,440
transmitting interest rate 
changes to households and firms.

990
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,960
When deposits shift into stable 
coins, or from our perspective 

991
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,000
into Bitcoin, this transmission 
mechanism changes. 

992
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,680
We find that stable coin 
adoptions interfere with 

993
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,920
multiple monetary policy 
transmission channels, 

994
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,360
potentially weakening the 
predictability of policy 

995
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,120
actions. 
I mean, maybe just like, you 

996
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,480
know, a small group of people 
shouldn't be in control of 

997
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,880
monetary policy. 
Maybe you want to use a neutral 

998
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,200
scarce money that no one 
controls and you know, the 

999
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:01,080
market will very organically get
to the interest rates that are 

1000
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,760
fair for the market. 
But no, you know, let's, let's 

1001
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,880
blame Bitcoin, let's blame 
stablecoin for the fact that no 

1002
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,560
one has the right insight to 
accurately create the interest 

1003
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,760
rates that the economy needs. 
Maybe we should outsource that 

1004
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,680
to the market. 
I don't know, I maybe I'm an 

1005
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,640
extremist. 
Maybe I'm, you know, too far 

1006
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,200
gone down the Bitcoin rabbit 
hole. 

1007
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,840
Maybe I've drinking the orange 
kool-aid a little too much. 

1008
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,360
But from my perspective, sounds 
a lot better than trusting a 

1009
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,720
small group of people that are 
literally fleecing everyone 

1010
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:39,520
stealing from you and saying 
hey, we're doing we're doing the

1011
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,440
doing you the favor. 
We're hey, we're here to protect

1012
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,720
you, the little guy. 
Where, where will you need us to

1013
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:50,720
push back the flood of you 
losing your wealth? 

1014
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,040
Hence why I brought up that that
comment by Winsome is like 

1015
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,280
we're, we're getting to the 
point where they're like, look, 

1016
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,000
if people start using Bitcoin 
and, and I'm, I'm, I'm 

1017
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,240
paraphrasing here, this is, this
is Opti's paraphrasing of what 

1018
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:09,320
the ECB is saying, that they're 
basically saying, hey, if you 

1019
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,280
use Bitcoin or if you use 
stablecoin, we'll use their 

1020
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,760
example. 
If you use stablecoins, then you

1021
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:22,120
are going to distort our ability
to take from you more. 

1022
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,080
I don't know, it sounds like a 
good thing to me personally. 

1023
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,560
So I, I do, I look, I'm, I'm 
honestly completely on board 

1024
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,840
with their, their whole analysis
here. 

1025
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,200
I, I'm totally on board with 
what the ECB is saying. 

1026
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,920
For once. 
They're like, yeah, you're kind 

1027
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,120
of, you're kind of finally 
saying the truth out loud, kind 

1028
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
of like we're finally on board 
with the same ideas of what 

1029
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:48,960
we're actually doing here. 
OK, now one more point. 

1030
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,240
And then I, I will, you know, 
get a, get a funny, ooh, look at

1031
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,080
that. 
Get a funny, you know, breakdown

1032
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,520
from a Bitcoiner. 
A fellow bitcoiner. 

1033
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,560
Here we go. 
Why does the currency of stable 

1034
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,200
coins matter? 
The third policy relevant 

1035
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,720
finding relates to the currency 
in which stable coins are 

1036
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,080
denominated. 
If stable coins linked to non 

1037
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,360
euro currency such as the US 
dollar where to become widely 

1038
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,240
used in the euro area, the risk 
to monetary policy would 

1039
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,560
increase significantly. 
In such a scenario, changes in 

1040
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,240
global financial conditions, 
foreign monetary policy 

1041
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,920
decisions or shifts in investor 
confidence could directly affect

1042
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,120
liquidity and spending 
conditions in the euro era area.

1043
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,400
Sorry. 
Regardless of domestic policy 

1044
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,880
decisions, in simple terms, 
foreign monetary conditions 

1045
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,280
could be imported into the euro 
area through stablecoins. 

1046
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,400
This would weaken the central 
bank's control over financial 

1047
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,520
condition. 
I repeat, weaken the central 

1048
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,000
bank's control over financial 
conditions, reduce the 

1049
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,440
effectiveness of traditional 
monetary policy instruments, and

1050
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,480
make it harder to stabilize 
inflation and economic activity,

1051
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,640
especially during periods of 
financial stress. 

1052
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,000
And of course, their findings. 
These findings highlight the 

1053
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,880
importance of thoughtful 
regulation. 

1054
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Man, it's honestly, this is 
beautiful. 

1055
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,680
It's a master class. 
Shouts out to the ECB. 

1056
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,960
Absolute master class in, I 
don't know, information warfare,

1057
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,680
though, as you can see when you 
read that, you probably get the 

1058
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,160
perspective like, Oh yeah, 
maybe, maybe the stable coin 

1059
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,760
things are a bad thing. 
But when you get the filter, 

1060
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,280
when you get the Bitcoin filter 
through this, you're like, yeah,

1061
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,720
honestly, I kind of totally 
agree with everything you're 

1062
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,120
saying and I'm kind of totally 
on board with this. 

1063
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,960
I totally believe that central 
banks around the world should 

1064
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,120
have less financial control. 
They should have less financial 

1065
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,600
control. 
I'm like, yeah, that's this is 

1066
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,280
great. 
Now I would go further and I, I 

1067
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,560
think really, really the IT 
should be Bitcoin in here 

1068
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:54,160
instead of stable coins. 
But as we know, the ECB is very,

1069
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,720
very adamant about them dropping
ACBDC. 

1070
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,000
And right now stablecoins are 
the threat to their CBDC system 

1071
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,760
because why would you need the 
ECBCBDC if you could just use a 

1072
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,720
stablecoin? 
One, you're probably going to 

1073
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,000
get a better yield on it to the 
central bank can't cut you off 

1074
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,880
whenever they want to. 
But really in reality, when you 

1075
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,760
look at that three paragraphs 
that I read and you add Bitcoin 

1076
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,480
into that instead of 
stablecoins, that is the real 

1077
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,160
play at hand. 
As the US has done with 

1078
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,360
stablecoin regulation, using 
stablecoins as a Trojan horse 

1079
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,120
from my opinion, for Bitcoin to 
get in, because you can't 

1080
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,960
acknowledge stablecoins and not 
acknowledge or accept Bitcoin, 

1081
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,040
at least in some semblance of 
respect for what Bitcoin is or 

1082
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,760
what digital assets are. 
You're seeing that the ECB is 

1083
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,040
doing the opposite. 
They're using stablecoins as the

1084
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,680
big bad boogeyman. 
But in reality, it's Bitcoin 

1085
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,440
that, that really should be the 
ire of the ECB. 

1086
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,360
But you know, I, I think 
they're, they're starting to see

1087
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,880
that that probably isn't going 
to be looked upon favorably. 

1088
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,120
And, and personally, I'm, I'm OK
with this. 

1089
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,040
This is one of the things that 
Bitcoiners have been saying for 

1090
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,080
a long time. 
It's like the only use case for 

1091
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,760
shitcoins. 
And I'm not necessarily saying 

1092
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,360
stablecoins or shitcoins per SE.
I know some people do, as we've 

1093
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,560
seen, there is actual adoption 
of stablecoins around the world.

1094
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,280
So I think the idea of 
stablecoins as a bridge from 

1095
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,840
Fiat to Bitcoin, maybe it's a 
first step to Bitcoin. 

1096
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,200
I, I think it's pretty apt. 
I, I think it, it's a legitimate

1097
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,960
kind of narrative, but they're 
doing, the ECB is, is doing 

1098
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,280
exactly that. 
They're, they're using shit 

1099
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,680
coins as the kind of like the 
squid ink here, you know, the 

1100
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,680
octopus ink to confuse not only 
themselves, but everyone else. 

1101
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,480
And that is, that is the beauty 
of shit coins. 

1102
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,760
Why they all try to regulate the
shit coins. 

1103
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,960
And again, not necessarily 
saying stable coins or shit 

1104
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,880
coins, but it's not Bitcoin. 
It's cover for Bitcoin. 

1105
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,600
So look, let let the US 
government embrace stable coins 

1106
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,320
or, you know, export dollar 
hegemony around the world. 

1107
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,160
Bitcoin's going to get through 
the door. 

1108
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,560
Let the ECB attack stable coins.
I don't think they're going to 

1109
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,080
be successful. 
But with that comes Bitcoin gets

1110
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,200
through the door. 
I think this report is, is very 

1111
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,200
telling in what their narrative 
is and and also what their 

1112
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,280
hubris is. 
It's like, yeah, look, this is 

1113
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,120
the point. 
We want you to have less 

1114
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:33,040
control. 
That was the literal inception 

1115
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,920
of this idea. 
That was the initial route of 

1116
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,720
all of this. 
You should have less control. 

1117
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,480
There shouldn't be central banks
around the world controlling 

1118
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,440
interest rates, controlling the 
money. 

1119
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,680
We are living in a debt Ponzi 
right now. 

1120
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,440
Personally, I want to move into 
something that is scarce, that 

1121
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,040
is neutral, that cannot be 
debased, that cannot be 

1122
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,440
controlled by a single entity or
entities. 

1123
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,400
This is the point of all of 
this. 

1124
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:04,320
So Chrissy Lagarde, maybe, maybe
we slow clap for her for 

1125
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,520
approving this report because 
it's beautiful. 

1126
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,080
It's a beautiful master class. 
I, I love to see this again. 

1127
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,920
They are talking about stable 
coins, but man, they're finally 

1128
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,000
saying it out loud. 
You got you got to love it. 

1129
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,160
You got to love it. 
I absolutely love this let's go.

1130
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,520
This is this is good stuff here.
This is really good stuff from 

1131
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,760
the ECB, but you know in reverse
counter counter signal here from

1132
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,000
the ECB. 
Gotta love it. 

1133
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,280
Love to see you. 
All right, guys, before I move 

1134
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,760
on though, oh, actually, sorry, 
I do have a good tweet. 

1135
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,080
Shouts out to Fernando. 
He is working on Bitcoin 

1136
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,600
perception, BTC perception. 
He was at Block stream for a 

1137
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,400
little bit. 
I love, I love this tweet here. 

1138
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,240
This is great. 
I'm not going to read the whole 

1139
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,320
thing 'cause he, he talks about 
himself a little bit and he used

1140
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,440
to work in the music industry, 
but he goes, wait a minute, hold

1141
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,480
on here. 
So the European Central Bank 

1142
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,160
published a paper warning that 
stablecoin adoption could pull 

1143
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,040
deposits out of the banking 
system. 

1144
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,480
The people who run the monetary 
system are admitting in an 

1145
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,560
academic paper that their 
product might lose to a better 

1146
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,760
product. 
The diagnosis is correct. 

1147
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,640
The conclusion they'll draw from
it, of course, will be to 

1148
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,240
regulate the competition instead
of improving their own product. 

1149
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,920
As I mentioned, the threat 
assessment was always accurate, 

1150
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,120
but the response was always 
protectionism, and protectionism

1151
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,680
always loses. 
Absolutely beautiful. 

1152
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,600
Absolutely beautiful. 
Master class from the ECB and 

1153
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,800
just how to wreck yourself. 
Gotta love it, gotta love it. 

1154
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,760
All right guys, before I move 
on, like I was saying, make sure

1155
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:43,520
you get your tickets to Las 
Vegas 2026 April 27th through 

1156
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,920
the 29th. 
It's going to be at the Venetian

1157
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,160
bit corners are taking over 
Vegas again. 

1158
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,240
Last year I had a blast. 
I might have had a little too 

1159
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:56,640
much fun in Vegas, but hey, you 
know what stays in Vegas or what

1160
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,440
happens in Vegas almost stays in
Vegas until Nico comes on the 

1161
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,920
show and starts saying about me 
in Vegas, guys. 

1162
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,160
Oh, you're look, hey, what 
happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

1163
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,680
All right, so Bitcoin has taken 
over Vegas again for the world's

1164
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,920
largest Bitcoin conference April
27th through the 29th. 

1165
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:17,280
Again, get your tickets today. 
And if you use simply all caps, 

1166
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,120
you get 10% off All right, guys.
So to wrap up today's show, we 

1167
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,840
are going to talk about how's 
Bitcoin reacted in the face of 

1168
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,960
all of the biggest moments we've
seen in the last few years from 

1169
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,920
a geopolitical macro 
perspective. 

1170
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,520
Spoiler alert, it's still the 
best. 

1171
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,240
All right, it's still the 
absolute best. 

1172
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,040
So quick commercial break, last 
commercial break and we will 

1173
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,480
wrap up today's show. 
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1174
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,000
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1175
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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,360
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1181
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,040
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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,520
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1185
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,880
Sorry guys, it's getting a 
little cottonmouth here talking 

1186
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,160
for an hour or so. 
Forgive me for taking a sip of 

1187
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,760
water. 
All right, guys, So bring him 

1188
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,960
back an idea that I brought up 
in the beginning of the show. 

1189
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:45,520
Actually, I've been talking 
about it all week and it is my 

1190
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,640
surprise to how strong Bitcoin 
has reacted in the face of the 

1191
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,280
new war in the Middle East or 
the new operation. 

1192
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,560
I know they're not calling it a 
war yet, but for all intents and

1193
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,280
purposes, we are at war in the 
Middle East with Iran. 

1194
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:06,760
And I was very surprised to see 
Bitcoin not tank on the opening 

1195
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:12,560
of the markets on Monday. 
Now, there is a few things you 

1196
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,360
can point to. 
One of the things is obviously a

1197
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,960
lot of Bitcoiners saying, oh 
hey, Jane St's no longer 

1198
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,680
manipulating the market. 
Now, whether they were or 

1199
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:28,880
weren't, there is a coincidence 
here that ever since the court 

1200
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,680
case against them for price 
manipulation in the 2022 

1201
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:37,640
collapse came to light, or 
rather was issued and came out, 

1202
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,080
we aren't seeing the 10 AM slams
on Bitcoin. 

1203
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,520
And maybe maybe that push down 
of the Bitcoin price potentially

1204
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,160
from Jane Street is why Bitcoin 
is seemingly running right now. 

1205
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,200
Now I know it's at 73 K. 
It's like, what is this a pump 

1206
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,320
for ants? 
I think we're up today or in the

1207
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:04,440
last two days about 6-7 percent.
But since the Iran war, Bitcoin 

1208
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,440
is up 12%. 
And again, that to me is the 

1209
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,440
most surprising signal here, the
fact that Bitcoin is up multiple

1210
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,439
percentages when you'd expect it
to go down. 

1211
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,880
Now, I saw a really good tweet 
kind of analyzing this and 

1212
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,319
comparing this to the S&P 500 in
gold. 

1213
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,000
And it just, it just shows you 
that even though Bitcoin maybe 

1214
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,720
has not performed as well as 
we'd like in the last year, 

1215
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,600
Bitcoin has still been 
outperforming everything else in

1216
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,120
the face of huge geopolitical 
events. 

1217
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,760
So here's James Van Stratton, of
course, he's senior analyst at 

1218
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,120
Coindesk. 
And he goes, remember this 

1219
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:49,240
chart, and this is a chart, this
was by BlackRock, Robbie 

1220
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,640
Mitchnick, Mitchnick, Mitchnick,
I think it's Mitchnick this. 

1221
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:58,920
So this was an official chart 
from BlackRock and they're 

1222
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,240
showing the S&P 500 gold and 
Bitcoin through major 

1223
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,760
geopolitical events. 
The first one, of course, was 

1224
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,840
the US Iran escalation last year
January or sorry, not last year,

1225
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,960
January 3rd, 2020. 
And you can see 10 day returns 

1226
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:20,279
and 60 day returns based on, you
know, gold, S&P 500 and Bitcoin 

1227
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:22,479
response to these huge new 
political events. 

1228
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:27,359
So in 2020, after the US Iran 
escalation, S&P 500 went up 2%, 

1229
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,640
gold was flat and Bitcoin went 
up 12%. 

1230
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:34,880
Ten day return after the 60 day 
return, S&P 500 was down 7%, 

1231
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,399
gold was up 6% and Bitcoin went 
up 20%. 

1232
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,200
Again, the 2020 pandemic 
pandemic. 

1233
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,840
Wait, pandemic? 
Sorry that I I misspoke there. 

1234
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,720
S&P 500 was down 20%, Gold was 
down 9%. 

1235
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,200
Bitcoin did go down further, it 
went down 25%. 

1236
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:56,160
But the 60 day return S&P 500 
was up 2%, Gold was up 30% and 

1237
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,920
Bitcoin went up 21%. 
Now going further, the 2020 US 

1238
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:05,280
election challenges in November 
3rd 2020, S&P 500 up 7%, Gold 

1239
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:11,520
down 1%, Bitcoin up 19 percent. 
60 day return, 2 month return. 

1240
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:17,240
S&P 500 up 12%, Gold down 1%, 
Bitcoin up 131%. 

1241
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,640
Now going further, Russian 
invasion of Ukraine in 2022, 

1242
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,600
Bitcoin did go down more than 
S&P 500. 

1243
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,880
S&P was 1%, Gold 2%, Bitcoin 
went down -6%. 

1244
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:33,040
But the 60 day returns, Bitcoin 
up 15%, while gold's at 9S and 

1245
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,960
P500's at 3. 
US regional banking crisis in 

1246
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,520
2023. 
Remember that? 

1247
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,120
That was fun. 
S&P 500 down to gold up 10%, 

1248
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,440
Bitcoin up 25%. 
Sixty day return, Bitcoin up 

1249
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:51,160
32%, gold 11, S&P 504%. 
Now the yen carry trade, which 

1250
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,320
was all of the rage last year, 
August 5th, 2020. 

1251
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,720
Oh sorry, in 2024, last year we 
saw it unwinding. 

1252
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:02,760
Forgive me. 
We saw S&P 500 up 2%, Gold and 

1253
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:07,120
Bitcoin flat. 
Now we have the updated numbers 

1254
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,920
here 'cause this chart wasn't 
updated and it is just a fill in

1255
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,160
the blank. 
The 60 days after the yen carry 

1256
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:18,080
unwind in August 5th of 2024, 
Bitcoin went up 21%, gold went 

1257
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,960
up 9%, SPX went up 3%. 
Bitcoin outperforming again on 

1258
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,440
geopolitical events. 
Now this is the past, right? 

1259
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,080
I didn't I I it might not be a 
one minute chart guys, but we we

1260
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,720
will look at some charts here. 
OK, I'll maybe I'll put the one 

1261
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,280
minute chart after and and 
forgive all my lines. 

1262
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,600
This is the deep value red 
range. 

1263
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,400
You know, I I got little 
descending triangle that the 

1264
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:50,640
price literally pumped off of. 
So I will do the one week here 

1265
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,280
just to kind of show and I'm 
only going to do actually, I'll 

1266
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,120
do all of them. 
I'll do them all for you guys. 

1267
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,320
Whatever, it's the end of the 
show. 

1268
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:03,000
Here we go. 
You know Bitcoin up almost 13% 

1269
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,000
started this week since the Iran
war. 

1270
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:12,520
So we're not really at the 10 
day returns yet for this Iran 

1271
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,120
war or Operation Epic Fury. 
But so far Bitcoins up 13%. 

1272
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,320
Let's see gold, which is 
probably the most interesting 

1273
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:30,920
gold is down about 7.8%. 
So still still doing well. 

1274
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,840
We're we're still, you know, 
we're still holding up to 

1275
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,000
Bitcoin performs best on these 
huge geopolitical moves. 

1276
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:42,800
And here's S&P 500. 
Let's see what is this? 

1277
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:48,200
I didn't actually check here. 
All right, so S&P 500 up 2.84%. 

1278
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,600
I don't know guys, it's almost 
like Bitcoin is doing exactly 

1279
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:54,840
here. 
Actually, before I go, it's 

1280
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,600
almost like Bitcoin is doing 
exactly as designed. 

1281
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,200
Here's the one minute chart for 
you guys, since you guys love it

1282
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,040
so much. 
Since I've mean oh, I didn't 

1283
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,760
even show you guys. 
Oh, RIP. 

1284
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,520
All right, just trust me on 
those numbers. 

1285
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,720
I was doing them live for you 
guys, but just trust me that 

1286
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,360
those were the numbers. 
So Bitcoin up 12 almost 13%, 

1287
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:21,840
Gold's down almost 8%, S&P 500 
is up almost 3% since the start 

1288
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:27,600
of the operation Epic fury. 
So again, another data point 

1289
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:34,160
that Bitcoin it, it really is 
the best performing asset no 

1290
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,920
matter the conditions. 
Yes, we had a bad 2025, you 

1291
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,840
know, you could always cherry 
pick data points. 

1292
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,600
But again, huge geopolitical 
event. 

1293
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,320
We're almost at the 10 day 
return for Bitcoin, Bitcoins 

1294
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,480
reacting the best out of the 
last huge geopolitical event out

1295
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:57,600
of gold and the S&P 500. 
I don't know, man, guys, it's 

1296
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,640
it's almost as if Bitcoin is 
doing exactly what we thought it

1297
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,480
was going to do. 
When you, when you put it in 

1298
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:08,400
this context, it does show that 
even if we're down on the year, 

1299
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,360
Bitcoin is still the best thing 
to hold no matter what the 

1300
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,400
geopolitical event is. 
And I'm I think I think it's 

1301
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,960
going to be eye opening to see 
this continue to maintain and 

1302
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,800
and at a certain point, it it is
just going to be undeniable. 

1303
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:25,920
Bitcoin's the only thing you 
want to be owning. 

1304
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,680
I don't know, guys, is this what
winning feels like? 

1305
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,880
Is this what winning feels like?
Yes. 

1306
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,560
Best money on earth, boss. 
Sorry, sorry, guys, I I I can't 

1307
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,600
look at the chat. 
Do you guys, do you not trust 

1308
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,120
me? 
OK, All right, OK, all right. 

1309
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,200
Since you guys don't trust me, 
You you guys, man, guys don't 

1310
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,360
trust me. 
OK, I see how it is. 

1311
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,480
I see how it is. 
Here we go all right, so here is

1312
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,240
the low for the week to the high
almost 13%. 

1313
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,040
We're going to do gold, gold 
start of the week and we're and 

1314
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,960
we're even we're even being 
maybe I'm being a little too, 

1315
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,840
you know, cherry picking. 
But this week, from the high to 

1316
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,440
the low, it's almost down 8 
percent, 7.8%. 

1317
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,320
And then S&P 500 again. 
I am being charitable here. 

1318
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,720
From the low of the week to the 
high, it's up 3%. 

1319
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,400
Though in reality, I guess we 
should do something like that. 

1320
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,480
It's up. 
It's not even up a percent. 

1321
01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:32,760
S&P 500 from market open on the 
week to current price, it's up 

1322
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,120
.81% and it just turned red. 
Love it. 

1323
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,200
So like Bitcoin? 
Bitcoin is doing exactly as 

1324
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,080
designed. 
Any of the haters out there 

1325
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,160
saying that Bitcoin has failed, 
it's been hijacked, you know, 

1326
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,560
it's been compromised by the 
banks, yadda, yadda, yadda, 

1327
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,080
They're trying to sell you 
something and they're trying to 

1328
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,080
be bearish on Bitcoin. 
They're trying to sell you 

1329
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,960
anything about Bitcoin. 
At least you guys know my job 

1330
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,000
here is to sell you Bitcoin. 
I lean into the idea. 

1331
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,520
I'm a Bitcoin propagandist. 
I know my bias. 

1332
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:13,800
I am biased towards Bitcoin. 
Bitcoin has reacted the best 

1333
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,880
since Operation Epic Fury 
started. 

1334
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,480
I don't know. 
Take that information as you 

1335
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,600
will, boys. 
It's almost like Bitcoin is 

1336
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,200
doing exactly as designed. 
It is almost like Bitcoin is the

1337
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:32,520
best money in the world. 
Simply chart, boys. 

1338
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,120
Yeah, dude, we're I'm a chart 
boy. 

1339
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,040
Everyone knows I'm a chart boy. 
I have meme, the one minute 

1340
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,040
chart. 
I literally get you guys 

1341
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,600
tweeting at me like I better see
the one minute chart today. 

1342
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,880
You know, it's trolls. 
The one minute chart's just fun 

1343
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,240
to watch, guys. 
All right? 

1344
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,440
It's even more fun when it's 
dumping or it's pumping. 

1345
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,080
So whenever you see the price 
going crazy, I'm telling you, 

1346
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,880
put on the one minute chart and 
then monitor your emotions. 

1347
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,520
The situation you should be 
monitoring is your emotions when

1348
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,320
the price does something. 
That's the funnest thing here. 

1349
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,960
All right, can you walk and chew
gum? 

1350
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,800
No, I can't. 
I I have two brain cells left, 

1351
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,320
guys. 
I have two brain cells left and 

1352
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:20,560
I cannot do multiple stuff. 
All righty then, guys. 

1353
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,160
Well, well, well, all right, so 
end of the show. 

1354
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:31,320
But just to inform you, and you 
guys might be happy Nika's going

1355
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,560
to be gone the rest of the week.
He's he's got to take a trip. 

1356
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,520
So tomorrow I will have a guest 
with me in person. 

1357
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,440
If my, if I remember my schedule
correctly Friday, I will be 

1358
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,680
doing the show most likely 
alone. 

1359
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,080
So simply opt you for the rest 
of week. 

1360
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,840
All right, guys, on that note, I
appreciate you guys. 

1361
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,960
I love you guys. 
Have a good rest of your day. 

1362
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,760
Eat some good food, get a 
workout and get some step. 

1363
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,040
Get your 10K steps in. 
And of course, get some sun on 

1364
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:07,600
you guys get get on your eyes. 
We are we are ascending in 2026.

1365
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,640
I want you guys to be the best 
you can be physically, mentally 

1366
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,000
and of course, financially and 
spiritually. 

1367
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,920
We are rising. 
We are ascending in 2026. 

1368
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,760
All right, guys. 
So put down the doughnuts, watch

1369
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,400
your calories. 
It's going to work out. 

1370
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,040
All right, guys. 
All right, love you guys. 

1371
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,760
I will see you tomorrow. 
Have a good rest of your day. 

1372
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,200
Peace out. 
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1373
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,760
you by bitcoinwell.com, a 
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1374
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,160
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