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Welcome to the libertarian 
Institute Channel, and Keith 

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Knight. 
Don't tread on anyone today. 

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I'm joined by Thaddeus Russell, 
the founder of unregistered 

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Productions, Renegade 
University, the host of the 

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unregistered podcast and author 
of a renegade History of the 

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United States today. 
We'll be discussing World War 

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Two. 
The great blowback. 

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This is a class. 
Mr. Russell will be doing June 

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6, 13 20th, and 27th link will 
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Dr. Russell. 
Thank you so much for your time.

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Oh Keith. 
Thanks so much for having me on.

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I love talking about this. 
Dr. Russell, why is history 

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important? 
You know, I dislike so many 

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things about my profession which
is the historical profession. 

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I'm a Columbia PhD in history 
and I have been our history. 

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Professor for almost three 
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Now, I I dislike so much of it, 
mostly the content, the politics

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of it, the narrowness of the 
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the historical profession on. 
And on, however, there's certain

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things that I really love about.
My profession and the study of 

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history and for us or 
historians, I think this is 

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almost Universal Among Us. 
You know, we we believe that 

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nothing is trans historical. 
Meaning that nothing is eternal 

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and permanent and never 
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everything is historical in that
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Meaning that it is contingent 
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ideas in history, changing over 
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We believe that change is 
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been anything that is static, 
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ideas or culture politics or 
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And so that's what. 
So, there is always more to look

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at because there is nothing. 
But dynamism in the past, there 

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is nothing but constant change 
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And even outside of society, 
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And so, our jobs are never done,
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beautiful. 
That's one reason. 

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I love history. 
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psychologically, I get 
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doing it and it's almost like 
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me. 
I really love it. 

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I really feel better when I'm 
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green reading it. 
I feel like I'm not quite in 

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that place in the past, but I 
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this place anymore. 
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It's nice to be thinking about 
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that there's no sort of feelings
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know, any of the tragedies, you 
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reason and this is why I started
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historian is that I was 
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and like many of our friends 
people in our world as a very 

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young person and I pretty soon 
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history won all the arguments 
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could win virtually any 
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true. 
It's really, it's very 

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difficult. 
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As someone who knows a lot of 
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And when you don't understand 
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impossible. 
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If they have this old Trove of 
information that you're simply, 

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don't have access to. 
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with them on any serious way, in
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So historians those of us who 
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doing the research on the stuff.
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the argument. 
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It just means we have a big 
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is no political question to me. 
That isn't best answered by 

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looking at. 
History. 

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Imagine you have to hire a soul 
historian for Renegade 

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University. 
They're in charge of all the 

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history when looking for when 
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what would you say 
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from a bad historian just quick.
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I am no longer with Renegade 
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So it's my all my courses are at
the unregistered Academy on my 

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patreon, but just so, you know, 
it's a brand-new thing. 

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I don't blame you. 
I was with, are you for a long 

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I went in another Direction just
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So you can go to 
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for all the things that I'm now 
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So what, what kind of historian 
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Well, I just hired David Beto, 
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libertarian historian at the 
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written four or five, very 
important books that have been 

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almost completely ignored by the
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he's got the wrong politics. 
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important their unique and they 
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Understanding of mutual Aid 
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People. 
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self-defense by 
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He's now got a new book. 
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These are the things that you're
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about, you know, in the left 
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Academia and David's, managed to
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have a job and Alabama, but no 
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book. 
So that's why he's on my podcast

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right now. 
This week. 

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He's a new episode and he and I 
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five-part course, June and July 
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assassination. 
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and both David. 
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in it before, but there's a lot 
of brand new workout, that makes

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it much more interesting and 
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more to it than than standard 
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to believe the reason I hire a 
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Is the David asks he asks 
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asking. 
He has he's curious about things

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that other historians are not 
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making any argument. 
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evidence, determine what the 
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He wants to just tell a 
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different. 
He just sees a different history

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than typical historian. 
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wouldn't ever hire as someone 
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I mean, that's but that goes for
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I don't like to have friends who
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I don't want to have anybody 
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who's in curious, and that is 
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And my, my opinion, they are 
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They're not curious about ideas 
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They're mostly propagandists. 
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There are some there are some 
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Who are genuine authentic 
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ideas and themselves, but for 
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they're interested in advancing 
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really listening to ideas that 
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their own. 
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the edges, but they will not 
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about the welfare state or about
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or about socialism, you know, on
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agree and there's Has no point 
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I want someone, who's who's very
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curious and wants to know about 
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not afraid to follow the 
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leads. 
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arguments that I had heard for 
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Two were bad history arguments 
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boring predictable narratives. 
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primary documents or anything. 
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want to go into Syria. 
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want to fight? 
Neville Chamberlain, so you're 

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kind of an idiot in a coward. 
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you're like Winston, Churchill, 
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The greatest breadth that ever 
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What is why our historical 
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opposed to just laying out 
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What, why do narratives matter 
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Well, because narratives become 
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So once once people buy into a 
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narrative, they then 
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culture, internalizes it, and 
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It becomes religious religious, 
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Loan By Any Means in this. 
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established about history over 
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What's great about them. 
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where Michelle Foucault comes 
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He's the he and the French 
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postmodernist identified. 
This, they noticed that the the 

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narratives about history change 
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ruling Elites change, their view
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constantly, they're always 
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actually happened in the past 
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maybe there isn't one single 
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Narrative write one single truth
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But yeah, so if you control, 
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say this, if you control 
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If you control The Narrative of 
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control Society because you can 
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So for instance, you know, in 
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or 60 years, one of the ways in 
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maintained, its control has been
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mythological sort of redneck 
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This usually southern white man 
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somewhere in his house, or on 
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he's racist etcetera. 
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because of date because they 
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lineage of racist white men like
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The Ku Klux Klan the Confederacy
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Yada yada. 
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programs to help 
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to keep down the Trump. 
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I mean, the Democratic party, 
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be without that Narrative of of 
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I mean they have nothing. 
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policy has to be filtered 
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you know, to get it passed. 
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you know, I mean Trump, make 
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So there's a lot of talk among 

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Trump stirs about how great 
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50s, you know, World War Two. 
To and, you know, the great 

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Prosperity after World War 2, 
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enough money that Mom could stay
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it's this nostalgic thing and 
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know, they control, they control
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their own narrative that's 
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Again, the virtually the entire 
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What are they? 
What are they fighting for mean?

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That's what it says. 
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again. 
So it's a nostalgic movement 

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from the beginning. 
The requires on a particular. 

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Oracle narrative to me, both 
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about America being a wonderful 
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and the liberal left Democrat 
Democratic narrative, that the 

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United States has always just 
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killing black people. 
They are equally true to me. 

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They're equally true equally 
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They really are just narratives.
Now, there's and there's 

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evidence. 
There's lots and lots, and lots 

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of evidence. 
There's books and books, and 

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books, and stacks. 
Worth of evidence to support 

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either narrative. 
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1950s America and say yes, in 
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working class was getting paid 
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owned houses. 
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during Jim Crow and not 
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all of the working class was so 
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factories, or 8 10, 12 hours a 
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So, you know, anyway, you get my
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narrative establishing, 
controlling, and disseminating a

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narrative effectively is the 
surest path to power. 

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Great points. 
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Embrace any humility or any 
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narratives, they don't say, 
well, or the example, I'd uses 

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the president of the Council on 
Foreign Relations. 

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Richard Haas. 
He doesn't even say, you know, 

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in my opinion, I think the 
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Afghanistan outweighed. 
The cause he just says, well, we

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know that we had to go into 
Afghanistan. 

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Our hands were tied. 
We had no choice but a rack is 

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where there might be a gray 
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Notice how they've sold you. 
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goods. 
That whenever there's a problem.

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We need major major State 
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have to kill tons of people. 
Look, you don't like it go away 

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and live in Fairyland. 
This is the reality. 

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Moving on, they never even 
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So that's the power, they did 
the power of the narrative. 

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They don't even see that. 
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forward. 
They just see it as a absolute 

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reality, that can go 
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love places that are able to 
bring. 

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Us courses, like World War Two, 
the, the great blowback. 

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What is blowback? 
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concept that was invented by 
Chalmers Johnson. 

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Who's a scholar mostly East 
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foreign policy. 
He was not a Libertarian. 

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He wasn't an anarchist. 
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I think liberal ish his scholar,
but he saw Especially in US 

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policy in the in East Asia over 
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policies. 
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anti-americanism Dollar 
Diplomacy rigging the rigging, 

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the system writing deals, you 
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bombardment, with these, with 
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you know, that basically allowed
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interest in the government 
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Laughs, you know, that kind of 
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How many how many nations 
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sovereignty to the United 
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Japan is just one of them when 
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into Tokyo bay and said, hey 
sign is Trade Agreement or else 

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they sign the trade agreement, 
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Japan after that. 
We're anti-American. 

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How strange? 
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how strange and by 1900 guess 
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anti-American, you know, so 
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in that case, Pearl Harbor was 
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of severe mistreatment of 
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We haven't even talked about 
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United States I should say, did 
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20s and 30s. 
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internment. 
Okay, everybody knows about that

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atrocity. 
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Japanese person in California 
was, was had their their land 

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and property seized by the state
of California. 

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And then, given over to White 
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the alien land laws, right? 
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Francisco Public Schools were 
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white students. 
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pogroms, essentially lynchings 
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streets here, where I live in 
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long before the internment. 
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reason to hate the United 
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came around. 
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blowback, but World War Two in 
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He is not all of it, but I would
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deaths in World War, two were 
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I, my estimate is about 
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The current, the current best 
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People were killed, as a result 
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two thirds of, that would not 
have happened. 

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Two-thirds of those. 
People would not have died. 

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If the US had not entered the 
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So that's blowback, you know, 
something like 40 million 

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people, I think dead the way 
that Europe was divided. 

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the United States controlled. 
The other half was not ideal for

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the United States or the world. 
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living there. 
That's below back. 

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Half a million American men. 
Dead fighting, that's blowback. 

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You know, it goes on and on, I 
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World War Two, they gave 
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Independence to Vietnam, and 
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And then the people in Vietnam 
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Minh a rose, and there's your 
blowback, their anti-americanism

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in Vietnam, became the Vietnam 
War, same, and same in Korea, 

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tons of anti-americanism in 
Korea, largely as a result of 

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what the United States did after
the war and during it. 

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Yeah, but the biggest blow back 
the biggest blow back of all Is 

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the Holocaust. 
So I am the first American 

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historian to make this argument 
explicit, but there are many 

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British and German historians 
who have been making it for many

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years and some ways. 
I'm borrowing from their work. 

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The Holocaust was not caused by 
the United States ending the war

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but its fulfillment was 
guaranteed by the United States 

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entering the war. 
What people don't know is that 

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every year from the time Hitler 
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final solution began in late 
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Every year Hitler gave a public 
speech in the reichstag intended

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for Western governments to here 
in which he said the following. 

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I have the Jews that you love so
much. 

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I will deliver them to you on 
our boats on luxury liners if 

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you want it. 
Will you take them West, if you 

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don't take them and you stop us 
from retaking the land that was 

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stolen from us in the 
Versailles, treaty after World 

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War one, which included pieces 
of Poland. 

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And then also, he had designs on
Western Russia, which was not 

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part of that. 
But anyway, he wanted to take 

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those areas it of you. 
Stop us from taking that land. 

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We will then kill the Jews so 
you can take him now. 

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I'll give him to you. 
But if you intervene militarily 

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to stop us from getting what is 
our ancestral land, we will then

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kill them. 
He was using them as hostages. 

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Well, the West every single year
from 1933 to 1941 the United 

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States state department, France 
Britain, every single one of 

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them refused to take any 
significant number of Jewish 

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refugees from the Third Reich 
over and over and over again. 

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You had Jewish organizations 
begging Roosevelt, daily daily, 

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you'd rabbis going to the White 
House. 

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Daily begging them to let Jewish
refugees from Nazi. 

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Germany, come into the United 
States. 

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No denied The only Jews were 
allowed into the United States 

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from the Third Reich or people 
like Albert, Einstein, who were 

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scientists, who were useful in 
building building bombs. 

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So there's that. 
And then Hitler kept saying, we 

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are going to take Poland much of
which did absolutely belong to 

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Germany. 
Most almost everyone agrees. 

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I mean, even the left wing and 
Germany agreed with Hitler on 

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much of his territorial designs 
ambitions. 

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And he launched the invasion of 
Poland in September 1939. 

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The United States, of course, 
and the Allies intervene 

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militarily, the United States 
through Aid to the Allies Etc. 

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And then Hitler eventually did 
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1941, but the thing is the plan 
for the for the Nazis and Hitler

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from the 19 teens until late. 
The one was to expel Jews. 

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They did not want to exterminate
them, the final solution for 

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Hitler, and the Nazi leadership 
was always to move them out, 

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forced forced migration, move 
them out of Germany, and out of 

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the Third Reich, when they took 
over Austria. 

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That's what they want to because
they wanted to keep them as 

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hostages. 
They wanted to keep that power. 

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Right? 
And when the unite, when the 

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United States ultimately 
intervened and the west 

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intervened, then Hitler no 
longer had used for these Jews 

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and that's when he gave the 
order for the final solution. 

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So this is in the late fall or 
early winter of 1941. 

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This is after Pearl Harbor. 
This is after the declaration of

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war by the United States on 
Germany. 

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And the first gassing of Jews, 
the first killing of Jews in an 

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extermination camp at Camp. 
That was designed for this was 

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in Chelm. 
No Poland. 

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The day after the day after the 
United States, declared war on 

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Germany. 
Now, people will say, and people

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often do say that there was mass
killings of Jews before then, 

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and that is absolutely correct. 
It happened during Operation 

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Barbarossa, the German invasion 
of Russia of the Soviet Union, 

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which began in June of 41. 
This is when the German He just 

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went hog-wild, rushing through 
Poland taking as much as 

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possible, and killing as many 
people as they could. 

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But this was not the, the, the, 
the killings of Jews that 

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happened at that time. 
We're actually against against 

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the direct orders of Berlin that
Hitler and the leadership of the

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Nazi party did not want that. 
They wanted to kill a lot of 

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them. 
They wanted to kill all of the 

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Polish leadership, and they 
wanted to kill all the Polish 

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intellectuals. 
The Jews were just, they were 

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not. 
Important in this campaign. 

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And so and and Hitler didn't 
want. 

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He didn't want his soldiers 
spending their time running 

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around sadistically shooting 
Jews in the head which many of 

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them did. 
He wanted them to focus on the 

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job at hand which was to seize 
this country and get rid of the 

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political leadership of Poland 
was not Jewish. 

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So we know this, we know this 
was policy. 

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We know that Berlin did not 
order the killings of Jews, not 

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in the way that was done that. 
They were interested in taking 

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Poland and eliminate 
liquidating, the ruling class of

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Poland and taking it over, but 
that was not. 

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The plan was to put the Jews in 
ghettos, which they did and then

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in an orderly way, March them 
out or train them out of third 

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of the Third Reich to any 
country that would take them. 

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And here's the thing that many 
people don't know Hitler and the

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Nazi party of Germany. 
In the 1930s co-founded, 

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essentially, the state of Israel
because there was a program by 

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which the the Nazi government 
gave gave material assistance 

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and training to any Jew in 
Germany who was willing to move 

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to Palestine and settle there. 
So, that was just an 

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agricultural area. 
So they were, they had farming 

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programs for Jews. 
The Nazis ran programs that 

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train Jews. 
How to run Farms so that they 

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could move to Palestine. 
It paid some of them Cash Money,

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it provided them with the 
transportation Palestine, many, 

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many thousands of Jews with the 
direct assistance of the Nazi 

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government. 
Moved to Palestine and helped 

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found the state of Israel. 
Because this is what they 

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wanted. 
They wanted the Jews to get out.

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They were not interested. 
Din, Mass extermination. 

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Why? 
Not mass extermination? 

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Mass extermination was what was 
done or attempted by Russian, 

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anti-semites famously before 
Hitler, was anything important, 

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right? 
Is the famed, the infamous 

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pogroms in Russia, which had 
been going on for centuries and 

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where the specially common in 
the late 19th century and early 

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20th century Hitler looked down 
on that, you know, he didn't 

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like slobs. 
You thought Slavs were racially,

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inferior people, Russians were 
inferior. 

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And he saw that as irrational. 
He called it irrational. 

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Emotional anti-Semitism. 
He said what we do, the German 

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the Nazis us we are rational 
anti-semites. 

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We don't run around, cutting off
people's heads and shooting him.

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Dead in the street. 
We line them up. 

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Put them in cattle cars, and 
move them out of the country 

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forever. 
So they spent did not see 

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leadership spent seven eight 
years in the 1930s. 

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After taking power. 
Looking for places to put the 

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Jews. 
They sent many of them to 

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Palestine. 
Winston, Churchill, stop that. 

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By he started bombing the ships 
that were taking the Jews to 

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Palestine. 
By the way, once that ended, 

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then they look to Madagascar. 
The Nazis spent a lot of time 

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investigating Madagascar. 
They sent missions down there to

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investigated. 
They were going, they were 

456
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getting ready to send Jews on 
ships, to Madagascar. 

457
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,000
They kept begging the United 
States, and France, and Britain,

458
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,800
and all the Allies to take the 
Jews. 

459
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,300
They kept saying, no, so they 
had nowhere to go. 

460
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,400
The Jews were trapped there, and
then Winston Churchill in 1939 

461
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,900
after the Invasion of Poland. 
He established a naval blockade 

462
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,400
of Germany. 
No one. 

463
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,100
No person could go in or out of 
Germany. 

464
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:15,100
After that time. 
Winston, Churchill trap, those 

465
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:18,700
people in Hitler's house. 
They refused to take the 

466
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,200
refugees and then he trapped 
them inside the house. 

467
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
As Hitler was burning it down. 
Oh, and then they started 

468
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,200
dropping bombs. 
The British RAF starts bombing 

469
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,100
the cities. 
During this time, the German 

470
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,200
civilians, all that happens. 
This is blowback. 

471
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,700
Of course, when you start 
bombing people The civilians in 

472
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:37,700
that country tend to tend to 
gather Ken to tend to Rally 

473
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:39,800
around the leader in that 
country during wartime. 

474
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:40,700
That's all it. 
Did. 

475
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:44,600
It helped Hitler's. 
Cause, and it did nothing except

476
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,200
ensure that the Jews and that 
country would die. 

477
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,100
And we have just some of the 
most heart-wrenching Memoirs and

478
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:56,300
letters from Jews, living in 
Berlin, and other cities. 

479
00:25:56,300 --> 00:26:01,100
During that time who said they 
said at the time that especially

480
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,600
that, the United States in 41 
was going into the was coming 

481
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,200
into the war. 
They said, now that the United 

482
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,500
States is coming to the war. 
We are dead. 

483
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,500
We are dead because Hitler has 
no reason to keep us around 

484
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,800
anymore. 
And that's exactly what happened

485
00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:17,700
the day after the United States.
Declared war on Germany. 

486
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:20,700
They started gassing Jews in the
final solution began. 

487
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,300
Niall Ferguson has attempted to 
summarize the response by Henry 

488
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:30,800
Kissinger to the concept of 
blowback. 

489
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:36,000
So he said, in his book as 
Kissinger pointed out to Ariana 

490
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,500
felici, the history of things 
that didn't happen needs to be 

491
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:43,100
considered before. 
We may pass any judgment on the 

492
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,400
history of things that did 
happen. 

493
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,100
We need to consider not only the
consequences of what American 

494
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,100
governments did during say the 
Cold War. 

495
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:54,800
But also The probable 
consequences of the different 

496
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,300
foreign policies that might have
been adopted looking at it that 

497
00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:01,800
way. 
Is there anything that might 

498
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,400
come to mind and say, well, yes,
technically, if the US doesn't 

499
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,100
go in but then again. 
What if Germany? 

500
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:14,100
Took basically from France to 
Russia, with Franco running 

501
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:19,500
Spain, Salazar later in Portugal
and Mussolini in Italy and 

502
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:21,700
Hirohito in Japan, how would the
look? 

503
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,900
The world look thin. 
Yeah, all of those guys would be

504
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,000
dead and the regimes would be 
long dead. 

505
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,900
So I spent a lot of time in the 
book that I'm working on 

506
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,600
examining the political economy 
of Nazi Germany, people. 

507
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,000
Don't do this nearly enough, it 
is it's if it weren't so 

508
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,700
horrific. 
It would actually be comical. 

509
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,100
So Nazism as a governing 
ideology is a snake eating its 

510
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:53,900
tail. 
There is Virtually no way for it

511
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:59,600
to sustain itself. 
So the anti-Semitism alone was 

512
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:04,400
nearly lethal for the entire 
German population. 

513
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,700
Why? 
Well, what's the first thing 

514
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,900
that Nazis did? 
When they came to power in 33, 

515
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:14,800
they removed all the Jews from 
the professions, all the 

516
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,000
professions. 
Okay. 

517
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:21,800
So Germany in 1932 1932 33 Jews 
in Germany. 

518
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:26,000
Any occupied, which professions?
Well, let's start with the 

519
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,100
medical profession. 
So, something like half of all 

520
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:32,800
the doctors in Berlin were 
Jewish and overnight. 

521
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:34,600
They were removed from their 
jobs. 

522
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,600
So there were half as many 
doctors now in Berlin. 

523
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Oh gosh. 
Okay. 

524
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600
Jews were also very prominent in
the food industry. 

525
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,900
Not the agriculture production 
side, but at the retail side and

526
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:49,100
the warehousing side, They 
removed all of them from the 

527
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:52,700
food industry in Germany. 
Okay, so, Was the consequence of

528
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:57,500
that starvation. 
The average height of the German

529
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:03,300
child declined during the Nazi 
rule in the 1930s, the average 

530
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,800
height of every other European 
country went up. 

531
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,900
During that time people couldn't
get enough food. 

532
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,800
They couldn't get enough 
medicine because they remove the

533
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,200
people who are providing those 
things. 

534
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,800
Oh, here's a good one. 
German Jewish doctors pioneered,

535
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,900
the treatment of sexually 
transmitted diseases. 

536
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:22,100
They were the first ones to do 
this. 

537
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,600
Really heroic people, actually 
saving people from awful 

538
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,500
diseases like syphilis and 
gonorrhea. 

539
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,300
Almost all the research and all 
the treatment for that in the 

540
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,600
world at the time was going on 
in Berlin by Jewish doctors 

541
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,000
90-plus, percent of the doctors 
in Germany who were treating 

542
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,500
sexually. 
Transmitted diseases were 

543
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,300
Jewish. 
Well, they got removed to guess 

544
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:46,700
what happened, Keith the rates 
of syphilis and gonorrhea, I 

545
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:49,600
mean, these are things that 
cause blindness they are. 

546
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,200
Debilitating, they can kill you.
Stay skyrocketed. 

547
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,300
So the German people are 
suffering tremendously from the 

548
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:00,700
lat. 
Of Jews, their society. 

549
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:03,600
I mean, people who were 
providing essential Services 

550
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000
essential essential Services. 
We haven't even talked about the

551
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,800
intellectuals and the banking 
sector, the financial sector, 

552
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,700
removing the Jews from from 
German society. 

553
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,000
That point was kotak 
catastrophic in itself. 

554
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:21,500
But then then the logic of 
Nazism is, we must have living 

555
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,000
space laban's realm. 
Everyone knows this, right? 

556
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,400
That was that was the 
justification. 

557
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,000
Partial, justification for 
taking Poland and West, Germany.

558
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,200
Hitler believed that the cities 
were too crowded yada yada. 

559
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400
So we've got to go east and get 
new land, right? 

560
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,200
So we can put our people in 
places where they have more 

561
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Breathing Room. 
Living space. 

562
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Okay. 
Well that requires a very large 

563
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,700
military. 
Okay. 

564
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Well, the thing is you've got to
stop that military and the thing

565
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,500
is the military requires things 
like copper for its bullets. 

566
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,500
Bullets had copper in them, 
right? 

567
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,900
You don't have a bullet. 
If you don't have copper. 

568
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:57,500
Well, promise, Germany had no 
copper. 

569
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:02,200
The other thing, the Germany 
insisted on at this time Nazi. 

570
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,300
Germany was to be completely 
self-sufficient. 

571
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,200
Autarky was what it was called. 
So they cut off Imports. 

572
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,500
They didn't want imports from 
any foreign corrupting 

573
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:10,700
influence. 
Right? 

574
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,700
Well, they stopped and they no 
longer were important copper 

575
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,300
now, so that meant they had to 
invade furthermore countries. 

576
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,900
The agricultural sector in 
Germany to define the copper in 

577
00:31:21,908 --> 00:31:24,000
the natural resources. 
The agricultural sector in, in 

578
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,500
Germany was denuded of Labor, to
build the bombs and tanks to 

579
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,300
invade Poland with. 
So, that's another reason people

580
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:34,000
are going hungry in Germany. 
There weren't agricultural 

581
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,700
workers. 
They were being used for 

582
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:39,500
military production. 
So starvation's happening in 

583
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,700
Germany. 
We have to invade More Country. 

584
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,100
We have to invade more of pull 
and more of Western Russia. 

585
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,100
More of other places to get the 
agricultural Goods to get the 

586
00:31:48,108 --> 00:31:50,300
produce to feed our people, 
right. 

587
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:55,000
It's an impossible, and 
impossible task, and so Hitler, 

588
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,300
so Nazi, Germany was collapsing.
Internally. 

589
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:03,200
It was imploding from the moment
of its Inception from 1933 on, 

590
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,700
for many reasons. 
It could not sustain itself. 

591
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:09,600
It was doomed to fail doomed to 
its demise. 

592
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,000
In fact, I'm quite Sure that 
have the United States and the 

593
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,100
Allies. 
Not intervened. 

594
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,400
It all it would have died long 
before 1941. 

595
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,800
When someone looks at the second
world war. 

596
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,800
As I said earlier, the common 
thing is it they always say WWII

597
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200
teaches us that appeasement 
never works. 

598
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,900
How do you respond to that 
mindset? 

599
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,100
Yeah, appeasement. 
Yes. 

600
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:37,700
I mean, so this is what they 
always use against us, right. 

601
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Every time we oppose a war. 
We are we are Chamberlain will? 

602
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,700
Yeah, and, and also, whenever 
the police tell you to do 

603
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,800
anything, you have to obey 
immediately, you can never not 

604
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000
appease the police or else they 
can. 

605
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,800
You everyone else. 
You have to vigorously stand up 

606
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,700
to for every single one of your 
rights, except the people that 

607
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:57,900
violate them the most good 
point. 

608
00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:59,500
Yes, indeed. 
Yeah. 

609
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:07,400
Well, I mean, so, it's so what 
we had circa 1940 one was 

610
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,400
basically to very vicious 
Regional Wars going on very 

611
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400
vicious. 
The one in the East between 

612
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,100
Germany and Russia Operation, 
Barbarossa that war is that 

613
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:19,700
alone? 
Just that piece of World War 

614
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,000
Two? 
Ooh is still the most lethal 

615
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200
catastrophic war in human 
history? 

616
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:28,300
So I'm not minimizing it and 
then Japan and China, you know? 

617
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:31,000
And and then of ultimately Japan
invading other countries as 

618
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,700
well, but mostly China, brutal 
Invasion, the Rape of Nanking. 

619
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:39,300
We know about the enslavement of
countless people, awful terrible

620
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:42,000
Wars going on, but these were 
Regional Wars. 

621
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:47,900
They were limited in scope. 
And Historians are virtually 

622
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:52,300
unanimous in agreeing that 
Hitler's Ambitions were never 

623
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:54,900
Global. 
They weren't even european-wide.

624
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800
He didn't even want to control 
Western Europe. 

625
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,700
As I said, he wanted Poland and 
he wanted Western Russia, which 

626
00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:03,300
he considered to be Teutonic 
territory. 

627
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,700
Meaning the ancestral home of 
his people. 

628
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:10,100
You know, all racialist 
nonsense, and of course, I would

629
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,500
have been thousand percent 
opposed him doing any of that 

630
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,400
too. 
But that's all he wanted for 

631
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,500
people who living in Poland and 
Western Russia. 

632
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,199
This is not a small matter. 
But that is all he wanted. 

633
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,900
He did not want Western Europe. 
He went into Western Europe as a

634
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:27,000
defensive ploy to shore up his 
western front so that he could 

635
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,800
go east. 
He was trying to he was trying 

636
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,600
to stop the Allies in the west 
so that he could push Eastward. 

637
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,699
That's why he took Western 
Europe. 

638
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:35,300
He had no intention of keeping 
France. 

639
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,500
He never wanted London. 
Couldn't take London. 

640
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:40,600
He had no landing craft. 
People don't know the ver 

641
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,400
mocked, the British, the German 
Navy had not a single landing 

642
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,800
craft. 
How on Earth were they going to 

643
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,300
invade England and then the 
United States without landing 

644
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:52,500
craft. 
They have no troop transport 

645
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:54,800
ships. 
They couldn't transport any 

646
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,300
number of troops across the 
ocean anywhere. 

647
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,100
Not even the English Channel. 
This is how we know. 

648
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,900
He had no intentions of going 
outside of his domain. 

649
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,900
In Japan and China. 
We've all I mean, it's clear as 

650
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:11,300
day. 
Japan, never had any designs on 

651
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,600
any other part of the world. 
They certainly want to China 

652
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,400
because they were dependent on 
the resources. 

653
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,100
And China. 
Japan is a volcanic rock. 

654
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,500
It has no natural resources. 
They have to go outward to get 

655
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,400
their stuff, especially 
agriculture stuff and labor. 

656
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,000
That's why they were in China. 
That's why they were brutally 

657
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,600
controlling and dominating 
China, but that's all they 

658
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,900
wanted. 
They did not want to control the

659
00:35:31,908 --> 00:35:33,700
United States. 
They didn't want to invade South

660
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,700
America. 
They Want anything other than 

661
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:38,500
that, they were going to become 
a strong power, just in their 

662
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,900
sphere. 
They would never be able to be 

663
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:43,100
dominated Again by the West as 
they had been. 

664
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000
If they could maintain, if they 
can maintain their control of 

665
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
China with the natural resources
and build their military and 

666
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,600
Industry in that way. 
So again, both regimes, horrible

667
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:58,300
murderous brutal and 
imperialist, of course, but 

668
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,800
they're imperialism. 
All I'm saying is much more 

669
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,200
limited than what WWII became 
what the United States. 

670
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,100
Entry into World War Two did, 
was it converted Regional to 

671
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:14,200
Regional Wars into a global war?
And that's why I say of the 65 

672
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,100
million or so, who died? 
As a result of the war, roughly 

673
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,700
two-thirds of those were outside
those spheres. 

674
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:23,100
The other reason, the United 
States entry into the war was so

675
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,500
lethal and accounted for so many
deaths. 

676
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:29,000
Is that many, many of the 
weapons that were used to kill 

677
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,900
people in this war, on all sides
on all sides were produced in 

678
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,700
the Good Ol USA. 
In places, like Detroit and Long

679
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:38,700
Beach, even the Germans, you 
know, they used they would 

680
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:41,000
capture American weapons and use
them to kill people with same 

681
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,600
with the Japanese. 
But, you know, they were 

682
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,100
flooding. 
The United States was flooding, 

683
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,500
the world with weapons. 
All of the Allies, all of the 

684
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,300
allies and are many allies were 
using u.s. 

685
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:50,800
Made weapons. 
The Soviet Union was using u.s. 

686
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,100
Made weapons, by the end of the 
war. 

687
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,900
They were killing lots of 
people. 

688
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:56,300
So, just the death count, the 
body count. 

689
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,100
The United States is responsible
in some way or another directly 

690
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,000
or indirectly, I believe for 
about two-thirds, but certainly 

691
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,100
a major part of it. 
Another one of the primary 

692
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,700
things that someone will say is 
well look the u.s. 

693
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:14,300
Didn't want the war, but our 
hands were tied after Pearl 

694
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:16,600
Harbor. 
This is another result of 

695
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,200
isolationism as Ben Shapiro 
loves to remind us, here is a 

696
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,900
book published in 1947 the story
of the secret War Pearl Harbor 

697
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:29,700
by George Morgenstern in his 
diary entry of November 25th, 13

698
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:32,200
days before the Pearl Harbor 
attack Stimson. 

699
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Secretary of War, expressed the 
Lemma in its broadest. 

700
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,500
Terms describing the war cabinet
meeting in the white house. 

701
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,400
He stated there the president 
brought up entirely, the 

702
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,600
relations with the Japanese. 
He brought up the event that 

703
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,000
they were likely to be attacked 
possibly, as soon as next 

704
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,500
Monday. 
For the Japanese are notorious 

705
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,900
for making an attack without 
warning and the question was 

706
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,800
what we should do. 
The question was, how we should 

707
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,700
maneuver them into the position 
of firing the first shot without

708
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:06,500
allowing too much Danger. 
ER, to our selves. 

709
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:08,800
What do people need to know 
about Pearl Harbor? 

710
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:11,800
What people need to know about 
Pearl. 

711
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Harbor was that it is what 
Franklin Roosevelt? 

712
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,200
And mr. 
Stimson and many others who 

713
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,600
ended up in Roosevelt's cabinet.
Had been wishing for Keith. 

714
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,600
I kid you not since they were 
teenagers. 

715
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,600
So I devote a significant 
portion of the book to a 

716
00:38:28,607 --> 00:38:31,500
biographical study of Roosevelt 
and his crew. 

717
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000
And he was reading about 
thinking about talking about and

718
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,400
writing about war with Japan, 
when he was in high school. 

719
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,800
He was reading a man named 
Admiral, mahan's books, Admiral 

720
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Mahan. 
Is a very famous military 

721
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,100
theorist of the 19th century, 
who wanted the United States to 

722
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,900
be the global hegemon. 
He was unabashed about it. 

723
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,300
But the thing about my hand was 
he was mostly concerned about 

724
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,800
Japan. 
He said over and over in his 

725
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,900
books that Japan must be 
confronted and defeated for the 

726
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,700
United States to control the 
Pacific. 

727
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,700
Roosevelt was a huge fan of his 
books. 

728
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:10,800
As were many people in what was,
then the foreign policy 

729
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,500
establishment and he started 
reading them when I was in high 

730
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,500
school when he was in boarding 
school, 16 years old. 

731
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:19,200
He was writing home about it and
talking about the Japs and how 

732
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,200
we needed to do something about 
the Japs etcetera, Etc. 

733
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,300
When he was assistant Secretary 
of, Navy, the Navy under the 

734
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:27,300
Wilson Administration and the 
1910s. 

735
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:31,400
He was calling for war against 
Japan and Wilson and Wilson's 

736
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000
cabinet who are Arch and 
interventionist as well were 

737
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,700
horrified by this guy. 
This young Lincoln Roosevelt 

738
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:38,700
guy. 
They try to kept trying to calm 

739
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,800
him down. 
We don't need war with Japan. 

740
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,600
So he was going for war with 
Japan. 

741
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,500
As I said, since he was a child 
literally, the very first 

742
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:50,300
cabinet meeting of the Roosevelt
administration. 

743
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:52,800
The Franklin Roosevelt 
administration, the very first 

744
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,900
cabinet meeting Franklin. 
Lays out maps and plans for what

745
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,700
a war with Japan would look 
like. 

746
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,200
And we have Diaries of his 
cabinet members saying, what the

747
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,000
hell was this? 
We weren't expecting this at 

748
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,700
all. 
That was his first. 

749
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:09,200
This is the height. 
This is the height of the Great 

750
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Depression. 
He had a lot of stuff to do, 

751
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,100
right? 
His first thing was, we got to 

752
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,900
go to war with Japan and how 
here's how it's gonna go. 

753
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,800
It was going to be launched from
the Aleutian Islands and Alaska 

754
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,400
and certain islands in the 
Pacific. 

755
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,500
And he knew how to wear the Navy
was going to be stationed. 

756
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:23,400
And where the Air Force is gonna
be stationed and how they had to

757
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,900
have particular, airfields, 
built-in islands in the Pacific 

758
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,400
so that the launch attacks 
directly into, I mean, he had it

759
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,200
all planned out before he became
president and he had been 

760
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:38,100
dreaming dreaming of a war. 
Japan, as I said, since he was 

761
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:42,300
about 16 years old. 
Unbelievable stuff. 

762
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:47,400
I have just two more pieces of 
evidence here cuz you would not 

763
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,500
believe the emails. 
I get every time I mentioned, 

764
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,100
Pearl Harbor. 
This is really difficult for a 

765
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:56,400
lot of people to accept here. 
Here is the New York Times. 

766
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,400
An article titled War entry 
plans. 

767
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,100
Later Roosevelt published, 
January 2nd, 1972. 

768
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,400
Here is Churchill's own Diaries.
The president's orders to these 

769
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,500
US. 
Navy, escorts were to attack any

770
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,600
German U-Boat, which showed 
itself. 

771
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,200
If it were 200 or 300 miles away
from the Convoy, everything was 

772
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,200
to be done to force an incident.
The president had taken this 

773
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,300
very well and made it clear that
he would look for an incident 

774
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:25,700
which would justify him opening 
hostilities. 

775
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,700
Churchill told his War cabinet. 
And then finally, there was a 

776
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,600
document titled. 
The McCullen memo which lists 

777
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,900
about eight things that the US 
should do in relation to Japan. 

778
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:42,000
The document Ends by saying if 
by these He's means Japan could 

779
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000
be led to commit an overt Act of
War. 

780
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,800
So much the better at all 
events. 

781
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,600
We must be fully prepared to 
accept the threat of War. 

782
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,700
So this was obviously 
intentionally provoked. 

783
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,200
So with what we've dealt with 
Pearl Harbor, but unfortunately,

784
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,300
we're in the war. 
And what are you going to do 

785
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:03,400
now? 
We had to drop to nukes on 

786
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Japan, just to end this hell on 
Earth that killed 65 million 

787
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,200
people after the nukes, the war 
ended, therefore nuking, Anne 

788
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,100
was justified. 
What's saying? 

789
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:17,400
Dr. Russell? 
I have talked to many World War 

790
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,800
Two veterans, who are very, very
happy about the atomic bombs 

791
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,800
being dropped on Hiroshima and 
Nagasaki. 

792
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,300
Because if they hadn't been 
dropped on Hiroshima, Nagasaki 

793
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:29,400
those guys might have been sent 
in into a Mainland invasion of 

794
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,000
Japan. 
Okay. 

795
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:34,600
Now, what would they have been 
met with if they had gotten to 

796
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Japan because by that point 
every city in Japan and people 

797
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,600
don't know this every single 
City and I'm talking about 52. 

798
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,200
60 major cities including Tokyo 
had that point by 1945 had been 

799
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,300
burned flat to the ground. 
Tokyo was a tabletop. 

800
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,800
They had firebomb firebomb, 
firebomb campaign after one, 

801
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,900
after the other. 
There you go. 

802
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:58,200
There were many of them 
throughout the years of the war 

803
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,500
and Tokyo was didn't exist 
anymore. 

804
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,800
As did most of the Japanese 
military, but 1945, but 19 1945.

805
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
The Japanese military was 
depending on teenage boys. 

806
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,100
The defense. 
Production factories where they 

807
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,200
were building the bombs and the 
tanks again staffed by teenagers

808
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,000
during this time in 1945. 
So, a Mainland invasion of Japan

809
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,700
would not have been fun. 
I'm sure there have been many, 

810
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:29,600
many casualties, but would there
have been fewer casualties than 

811
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,500
in her ocean and Nagasaki? 
I don't know. 

812
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Would they would Japan have 
surrendered? 

813
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Avenge eventually, if they were 
surrounded because by that 

814
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,800
point, Mainland Japan was 
surrounded by the US Navy. 

815
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,300
Bye. 1945 the US Navy has taken 
all the all the islands around 

816
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:46,600
Japan and all that was left was 
the mainland. 

817
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,000
So, you know, and we know that 
there was a lot of talk of 

818
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,900
surrender in the Japanese High 
command. 

819
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:54,600
By that point. 
I think it's quite likely that 

820
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,400
there would have been a 
surrender and if not, they would

821
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,700
have been much less resistance 
at that point from the Japanese 

822
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:01,300
military. 
Then, there have been on all 

823
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:07,100
those islands, all those awful, 
you know, brutal battles, on all

824
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:09,400
those islands in the Pacific. 
By that point because it's 

825
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000
simply they were operating. 
Really the dependent on children

826
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,800
the military that point to make 
their stuff and to fight and you

827
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,900
know, the US Military and the 
Allies are not going to have too

828
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,400
much trouble with that. 
So I as as I'm not going to ever

829
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,700
say to a veteran u.s. 
Veteran, who would have gone to 

830
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,500
the mainline. 
I'm not going to say to him, 

831
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,700
you're better off, you know, you
would have been better off if we

832
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:35,900
hadn't dropped the nukes but 
from a macro level society-wide 

833
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:37,500
level. 
I do believe that fewer people 

834
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:41,600
would have died. 
I wish you would have met my 

835
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,600
uncle. 
I think he passed away at 100 

836
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,000
years old. 
He finally opened up about his 

837
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,400
WWII experience. 
He was conscripted and he's 

838
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,500
sitting there. 
Gosh land, his late nineties 

839
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,500
talking to me about this and I 
asked him. 

840
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,600
Did you kill anyone in the war 
and his you know, his face goes 

841
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,500
blank and he goes, well, he 
explained that he was part of 

842
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:11,300
the Air Force and while he was 
flying, He attacked a Japanese 

843
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:15,600
fighter pilot and unfortunately 
was able to see his face just 

844
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,300
before he killed a guy. 
And here he is decades later, 

845
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:21,900
talking to me about it. 
Half a century later. 

846
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,700
Crying about it against the 
Japanese, who with all the 

847
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:29,700
propaganda. 
The average person is still able

848
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,600
to feel this compassion. 
He starts crying and said he was

849
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000
drafted, probably just like, I 
was he should have had kids just

850
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,500
like I did. 
Why did you know his face? 

851
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,200
His firing, miss me, a little, 
and mine hit his. 

852
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:46,500
It's just unbelievable stuff. 
So I'm yeah, Keith. 

853
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:48,800
I'm really glad you brought up 
conscription and this is another

854
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,200
thing that people don't 
understand every single military

855
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,700
that was in World War Two, every
single one, majority conscript 

856
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,800
Army, every single one, the 
United States with 2/3. 

857
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,900
Conscripts what are conscripts 
their slaves? 

858
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:07,400
We need to get over this. 
I mean, problem with calling it 

859
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,500
slavery at mean if Not slavery. 
I don't know. 

860
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,600
It is not only is it slavery? 
It's the worst form of slavery. 

861
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,400
Is it? 
Not? 

862
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,600
Because you are not being forced
to pick cotton, you're being 

863
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,100
forced to fight, and die for a 
cause you may not care about it 

864
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,000
is the worst form of slavery. 
And that's exactly. 

865
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,400
It was 2/3 of Americans in the 
war were conscripts in places. 

866
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,800
Like Germany. 
The Vermont was 90%. 

867
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,100
The German military was 90%. 
Conscripts. 

868
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:38,600
This is why I get furious when 
people describe all Germans as 

869
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,300
not sick. 
Not Aziz during that time, or 

870
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:45,300
they say the Nazi army, or Nazi 
Soldier. 90% of those guys were 

871
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:48,200
not Nazis, and a lot of them 
were anti-nazi. 

872
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,800
Same with all of them, British. 
They all relied on the Soviets. 

873
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,200
They all relied on conscripts. 
Absolutely slavery. 

874
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,200
So tells you tells you the 
support for the war, fighting 

875
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,300
this war on all sides on all 
sides, was not so great. 

876
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,900
Yeah, it's not exactly. 
France and Germany went to war 

877
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,600
know, a few Elites enslaved, 
some people in their 

878
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:17,800
jurisdiction, same thing 
happened on the other side and a

879
00:47:17,808 --> 00:47:19,900
bunch of people got killed. 
Yes, sir. 

880
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:22,000
Exactly. 
Ok, ok perfectly. 

881
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,600
So it's amazing. 
This by the way is referred to 

882
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000
as the good War. 
You would think that the good 

883
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,800
War would be like, I don't know,
Serbia 1999 or sore like Iraq 

884
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,900
war one. 
Something that had like, very 

885
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:35,300
few casual. 
I shouldn't say. 

886
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:38,100
Serbia had very few. 
Something you would think that 

887
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,900
just had so few. 
Little T's and the costs were so

888
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:42,600
small. 
And the benefits were so big, 

889
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:45,900
but 65 million deaths. 
You can't question this. 

890
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:49,200
It's inherently good. 
Here is tell me if I'm reading 

891
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,300
this incorrectly. 
I want to know what you hear in 

892
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,500
this statement. 
Here is Churchill in March of 

893
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:58,100
1948 in a book, titled the 
Gathering Storm Volume. 

894
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:01,800
One of his Memoirs one day. 
President Roosevelt told me he 

895
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600
was asking publicly for 
suggestions about what the war 

896
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,300
should be called. 
I said it once the unnecessary 

897
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:11,100
War, there never was a war one. 
Easy to stop then that which has

898
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,100
just wrecked. 
What was left of the world? 

899
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:17,300
From the previous struggle, the 
human tragedy reaches its climax

900
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:20,400
in the fact that after all, the 
exertions and sacrifices of 

901
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,900
hundreds of millions of people 
and the victories of the 

902
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:26,500
righteous, cause we have still 
not found peace or security and 

903
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:29,900
that we lie in the grip of even 
worse, perils than those, we 

904
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:34,000
have surmounted. 
That's that's the that's one of 

905
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,500
the greatest mass murderers and 
history saying that too. 

906
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:40,000
By the way Winston Churchill. 
As I said, as I said, he trapped

907
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,100
the Jews inside of Germany. 
He refused to take the refugees 

908
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:44,900
and then he put a blockade 
around Germany. 

909
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:48,500
I mean just think about that. 
He's soda, pop Tate around 

910
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:51,200
Germany in the first world war 
as first Lord of the admiralty. 

911
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:52,900
That's right. 
A starvation block. 

912
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:55,500
So he's starving everyone and 
trapping the Jews inside as 

913
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:57,000
well. 
Yeah, and hit the thing about 

914
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,800
Churchill was he boy, he was 
absolutely ruthless. 

915
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,300
He just did not care much. 
All about killing lots of 

916
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:06,100
civilians. 
To achieve a particular War and 

917
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:12,000
the costs of the of the second 
world war besides the Holocaust 

918
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,900
and everything else you've 
mentioned. 

919
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:17,600
But what else do you say to get 
people to say that this isn't 

920
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,600
the Great War? 
There were a ton of unintended 

921
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,000
consequences. 
What would you say? 

922
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,700
Those were if you had to lay 
them out? 

923
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:28,500
Yeah, well, I mean, the, you 
know, the tens of millions of 

924
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:30,700
people as I said, you know, who 
died. 

925
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:33,800
I think I think because either 
directly or indirectly, because 

926
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:39,800
of us entry into the war. 
The planet was reshaped. 

927
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,100
I mean countries were were 
created, other countries were 

928
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:45,200
dissolved. 
People found themselves, 

929
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,900
overnight being citizens of a 
new country that they previously

930
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:50,700
didn't belong to or didn't want 
to belong to. 

931
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:55,700
You have half the Half of 
Europe, half of Eurasia now, 

932
00:49:56,100 --> 00:50:00,900
behind an iron curtain under 
communism under a brutal 

933
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:06,500
stalinist dictatorship. 
You know in Russia alone. 

934
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:09,100
So I went to the Soviet Union. 
I was in the Soviet Union in 

935
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:14,200
1987 that's in its last year's 
and they took us to a military 

936
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:18,300
cemetery. 
Just WWII it was a WWII 

937
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:19,700
Cemetery. 
This is in Moscow. 

938
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,500
And it was so big. 
You couldn't see the edges of it

939
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600
when you were standing in it and
went off to the Horizon in every

940
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,000
direction, and it was one Mass 
grave. 

941
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,700
After another each Mass grave 
was the size of a football 

942
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:37,100
field. 
So just a raised sort of 

943
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:41,100
rectangle of dirt about 100 
yards long and maybe, you know, 

944
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:45,100
whatever that is 50 30, 40 yards
wide and there's just one after 

945
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,900
the other, after the other of 
those going off into the Horizon

946
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,700
that many mass Graves, each Mass
grave. 

947
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Contained ten thousand bodies in
it, ten thousand each one. 

948
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,400
So we know that more than 20 
million people in Russia were 

949
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,600
killed in that war. 
Would Hitler have invaded. 

950
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,800
Western Russia, the Soviet Union
the way that he did and the way 

951
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,800
that he did and would as many 
people have died, if the US have

952
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,000
not been involved, he would have
invaded, he probably would have 

953
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,600
lost, their probably would have 
been fewer casualties, but 

954
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:24,300
Again, it became a World War, as
a result of us intervention. 

955
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,200
The war, the war shape, the 
world in all sorts of ways that 

956
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,500
I mean, in a lot of positive 
ways, you know, a whole lot of 

957
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:35,200
Technology came out of it that 
we still use today with and 

958
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,200
that's something that sort of 
Libertarians need to Grapple 

959
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,000
with. 
You know, Wars are very 

960
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,300
modernizing phenomena. 
They accelerate Innovation and 

961
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:47,800
production and Technology. 
Technological advances. 

962
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,000
You know, can we could we have 
achieved all those things 

963
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,600
without killing 65 million? 
65 million people. 

964
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:57,900
I don't know. 
The other result of the war. 

965
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:02,800
Of course, is what Liberals are 
very proud of and happy about 

966
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,900
and they're defending every 
single day which is the 

967
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,600
establishment of the post-war 
liberal order. 

968
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,800
We call it which is dominated by
the United States. 

969
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:15,400
So, you know, NATO and the UN 
and Gat and the World Bank and 

970
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,000
the IMF, and all the thing, all 
the ways in which the United 

971
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,800
States, upholds, its Empire. 
Was a result of the world of 

972
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,600
World War Two, and that was all 
planned in advance. 

973
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,300
This Council on Foreign 
Relations began making plans in 

974
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:30,400
Earnest in 1939. 
They entered into an agreement 

975
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,300
with the state department. 
Shortly thereafter to make 

976
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:36,300
secret plans, for how the United
States would emerge from the 

977
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:39,700
World War Two, as the dominant 
superpower on the globe and they

978
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:41,100
got it. 
They got all the all that they 

979
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:44,200
wanted. 
Now you could say that was a 

980
00:52:44,207 --> 00:52:49,300
good thing because there have in
fact been fewer deaths by War 

981
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:52,900
since Five in the world. 
It's been a relatively peaceful 

982
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:55,300
time at least in modern the 
modern era. 

983
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,500
But you know, we do have Korea. 
We do a Vietnam. 

984
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,100
We do have Iraq and Afghanistan.
And that's just American wars. 

985
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:03,300
I'm talking about. 
It's been quite a bit of killing

986
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,600
was the Cold War, a good thing 
for the world, seems hard to 

987
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,400
maintain that, you know, half 
the world under communism and 

988
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,100
half the world. 
Under a u.s. 

989
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,400
Puppet regime. 
Is some sort often dictators who

990
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,200
were as brutal as any communist 
ever was. 

991
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,400
You had Cold War? 
He's across the country across 

992
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,300
the world that became often hot 
Wars across the third world, 

993
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:26,500
vicious, vicious Wars and 
Africa. 

994
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:30,300
Latin America. 
They were fought around this 

995
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,800
because of it communism was 
doomed to fail. 

996
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:38,100
We now know that communism as a 
system is not sustainable. 

997
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:40,000
It was just like Nazi Germany, 
Nazism. 

998
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,400
It couldn't be sustained on its 
own and that's all we needed to 

999
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,900
do. 
Leave it alone. 

1000
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,000
George Kennan said this. 
George Kennan said in his in his

1001
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,900
famous tell along. 1947 
basically, they're crazy. 

1002
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:54,200
They don't know how to run 
anything. 

1003
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,900
Talking about the Soviets. 
They're paranoid. 

1004
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:58,700
Delusional. 
Their system is falling apart 

1005
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:01,200
all the time. 
All we got to do is contain 

1006
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,100
them, keep them from moving 
outward and it'll fall apart on 

1007
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:06,900
its own. 
That didn't happen. 

1008
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:11,400
So three years later, the NSC 
National Security, Council 

1009
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,600
rights NSC, 68 saying, no. 
As a matter of fact, we've got 

1010
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,200
to do everything. 
We can to roll back. 

1011
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,400
The Communists, take an 
aggressive position to invest 

1012
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,500
heavily in the military to build
a lot of tanks and bombs, and 

1013
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:26,300
airplanes, and to go hard and to
actually do everything we can to

1014
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:29,400
foment Revolution within the 
Soviet Union regime change is 

1015
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,200
what we need and that was the 
policy and has been the policy 

1016
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,800
still to this day since 18:50 
NSE 68 I think is still in 

1017
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,000
effect. 
They are trying to roll back 

1018
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,800
Russia still. 
It's just now it's Putin. 

1019
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,400
It's not communism but it is 
still Russia. 

1020
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,000
The Russian Bear which has been 
getting in the way of America's 

1021
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,100
globalist Ambitions for more 
than 100 years now. 

1022
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:55,700
And that's why the Russia has 
always been an art sites for, 

1023
00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:58,100
you know, many decades because 
of that. 

1024
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:02,500
They wouldn't play ball with the
American global, managed 

1025
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:07,000
capitalist regime. 
Thank you so much for your time.

1026
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,700
Have two more questions for you.
Every time there is a war, the 

1027
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:14,600
intellectual class will tell you
that the other side just can't 

1028
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,900
be reasoned with Saddam. 
Can't be reasoned with you can't

1029
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,700
negotiate with Putin, can't 
negotiate with Hitler. 

1030
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:25,100
You could not have negotiated 
with the Soviets except during 

1031
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:28,800
WWII at Yalta and Tehran, but 
after that, they couldn't be 

1032
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:35,900
reasoned with here is a summary 
of how a Oswald Garrison, 

1033
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,000
Bollard the editor of the 
nation. 

1034
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,700
Wrote in the great armaments 
were the road to Fascism. 

1035
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,900
He says, they bring with them. 
Increased worship of the state 

1036
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,400
increased nationalism, increased
State service, and therefore, 

1037
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,300
play into the hands of those 
like Hitler and Mussolini who 

1038
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:56,200
declare that the citizen is made
for the state and not the state 

1039
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,600
for the citizen. 
He said, July 2nd 1938 when 

1040
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,400
you're dealing with this fascist
mindset, is there a way to 

1041
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,700
reason with in? 
Enemy, so to speak, that does 

1042
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,500
not involve going to war. 
Hmm. 

1043
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,400
You mean when when the enemy is 
fascist get there a way to deal 

1044
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,800
with them as if the u.s. 
Regime isn't fascist, but you 

1045
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,500
get what I'm saying? 
Okay, so half of my book is 

1046
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:25,100
about an alternative to military
intervention and the alternative

1047
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,700
in the United States has been to
let Hollywood continue making 

1048
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:33,900
movies to let to let the music 
industry in this country. 

1049
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,900
Continue making Music and 
sending it abroad. 

1050
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,600
Sending it to other countries, 
to let Levi Strauss. 

1051
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,400
Continue making blue jeans and 
sending them to other countries 

1052
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,900
to let American Media be 
broadcast through satellite 

1053
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:49,400
dishes. 
Now, previously through radios 

1054
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,000
and TVs, you know everywhere so 
that they can see how we live 

1055
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:59,800
and how they could live whether 
by moving here or by adopting 

1056
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,200
some of our own practices and it
turns out that American popular 

1057
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,800
culture. 
ER American material culture, 

1058
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:10,300
not the culture produced by the 
government not or the military, 

1059
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:13,600
but American pop culture, the 
stuff that we all like to do and

1060
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,600
buy and play with has been 
really really really popular all

1061
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,400
over the world for more than a 
century. 

1062
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,700
And in fact, it turns out that 
things like real housewives is 

1063
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:30,100
more much more influential among
Iranian women these women these 

1064
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:33,400
days. 
Then Sharia law, then the Quran 

1065
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,100
is There's a westernization 
going on at a rapid Pace in 

1066
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:41,200
places, like Iran, and that's 
largely, because people can 

1067
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,900
watch our TV shows and listen to
our music and wear our clothes. 

1068
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:49,600
So you just let the beauty the 
glory, The Liberation, the 

1069
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,700
freedom, the pleasure of 
American popular culture, go out

1070
00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:57,000
there and that will subvert any 
authoritarian ascetic regime 

1071
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,700
instantly because a Muslim 
regime, a Communist Regime, a 

1072
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:08,000
fascist regime, any kind of 
regime requires the discipline 

1073
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:12,000
of its subjects of the citizens 
of the people living in that 

1074
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,800
place. 
It requires, most importantly 

1075
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,900
that they subsume their 
individual interest and identity

1076
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:21,600
to what the interest and 
identity of the nation states. 

1077
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:24,800
Well good ol American popular 
culture. 

1078
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,000
Whether it was jazz or rock and 
roll or Kim Kardashian has 

1079
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,100
always been about your 
individual pleasure and Fun and 

1080
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,300
Freedom. 
Not about some collective 

1081
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:36,500
obligation. 
So, that's why American pop 

1082
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:41,000
culture has been the great 
anti-authoritarian solvent in 

1083
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,300
modern world history. 
And that's the main theme of my 

1084
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:45,000
book. 
That's the argument of it. 

1085
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:50,900
So years ago you correctly said 
shame is the health of the state

1086
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,500
and with this topic World War 
Two, it's always shame. 

1087
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,700
Anytime you go to question. 
Oh, you're a Nazi sympathizer, 

1088
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,800
what you think we should just 
appease Japan after they 

1089
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:06,200
unprovoked kingly kill. 
So Soldiers at Pearl Harbor. 

1090
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,000
Could you be any more evil? 
It's all of this guilt and 

1091
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,700
shame. 
What do you mean the in a at a 

1092
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,300
meta level when you say shame is
the health of the state, shame 

1093
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:22,700
is what's used to keep people in
order to discipline them to make

1094
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:25,800
them go to war. 
To make or at least support a 

1095
00:59:25,808 --> 00:59:27,500
war. 
Oh, you don't want it. 

1096
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:30,900
You don't support the war in 
Ukraine your pro-putin, you're a

1097
00:59:30,908 --> 00:59:33,600
bad person. 
And people clearly many of them 

1098
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:35,900
think that and they feel bad and
then they wear the blue and 

1099
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:39,900
yellow flag and then they vote 
to send 40 billion dollars to 

1100
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:41,000
Ukraine. 
Boom. 

1101
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,100
There you go. 
That's from shame. 

1102
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,000
That's from shame. 
That's what all the blue and 

1103
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,200
yellow flags are about, right. 
It's to shame. 

1104
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,700
Those of us who don't want to do
this, who are not interested in.

1105
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:51,400
Like we're like, wait, what? 
Where's Ukraine? 

1106
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,900
What why is this important to 
us? 

1107
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,000
How much money? 
Going and where is it going up? 

1108
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,800
Yeah, that's those are bad 
people. 

1109
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,400
Bad people ask questions about 
that. 

1110
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,700
We know that Ukraine is a victim
and Putin is the villain. 

1111
01:00:01,700 --> 01:00:04,500
And so what's the point of 
talking about it? 

1112
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,000
We just have to do it but it is.
It is shame. 

1113
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,500
Makes the world go around four 
states states, love shame. 

1114
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,300
That's how they get people to 
put on uniforms and March, and 

1115
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:17,800
fight and die. 
Unfortunately, there's a as more

1116
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,000
to it to, I mean, they they are 
also offered them belonging, you

1117
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,800
know, it's not just shaming, but
you you're dying for. 

1118
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:26,900
Or your family, you know, they 
they create they present the 

1119
01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:29,300
nation-state as your family. 
There's no difference between 

1120
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:31,700
you and United States. 
You are America. 

1121
01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:36,200
America, is you So that gives 
people has given people cause to

1122
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,800
die and fight, you know that 
they really believe in and I 

1123
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,600
think that's actually genuine 
and authentic. 

1124
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,700
I just would rather see less of 
it among people, right? 

1125
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:46,000
I don't think it's imposed on 
them. 

1126
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,800
I think people really buy into 
that genuinely and I really want

1127
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
to be part of this thing, and 
many of them have been willing 

1128
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,400
to kill and die for it. 
And I would just like to give 

1129
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,300
them other alternatives. 
The course is World War 2 with 

1130
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:04,600
the great blowback by dr. 
Thadeus Russell appears to be a 

1131
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,400
guy for part live webinar. 
Monday's, June 6, 13 20th, and 

1132
01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:12,100
27th link will be in the 
description below. 

1133
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Anything I missed on that. 
Know. 

1134
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,000
So the main course description 
is Thaddeus Russell.com courses,

1135
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:22,400
but also go to my patreon. 
If you become a patron at the 

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fifty dollar level, you can take
this course and all the courses 

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for free. 
So that's it. 

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Patreon.com slash on registered.
Thank you everyone for watching 

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Keith and I don't try it on 
anyone any libertarian 

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Institute. 
Dr. Russell. 

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Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you, Keith. 

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This is fun.
