If one or Jex lazy Fair on account of man's foul ability,
and moral weakness, one must for the same reason, also reject
every kind of government action. Welcome to Keith's night.
Don't try it on anyone today. I have Kyle anzalone of the
libertarian Institute and Patrick McFarlane of the
libertarian Institute, as well as the Liberty weekly podcast
Kyle. Where is the best place to find
your work? Just go libertarian.
Institute.org? My name is up there on the
Masthead and that's to Scott Hall.
Pete and Sheldon Richmond, excellent, how about your
alternative media accounts? We're set up for conflicts of
interests on library and me, we so maybe we just search my name.
There's also a conflicts of interest group Library.
I'll send you the the URL but it's /co.
I got it. Pat a remind me of your
ultimately accounts. Yeah, brother.
So I mean the One Stop Shop is Liberty weekly dotnet.
But I'm on float. I'm on me.
We, I'm on Minds. I'm on Library.
Odyssey, did shoot. I mean, I could keep going, but
there's a lot of places. So just search Liberty weekly
and chances are that I am there today.
We are going to do 15 quotes for each going to give five that.
We thought were sort of just life-changing quotes that really
changed the way. We saw either the political
landscape history or life in general, Kyle anzalone, start us
off with Or first quote. All right.
So I feel like this first one is cheating.
Just a little bit because Ron Paul is basically just
describing. What why red pill is, which is
truth, is treason in an Empire of Lies, but was one of those
things that, once Ryan said, it and I started looking at the
news and that way, it really helped me go down to the path of
Liberty. This was probably like, 2009 was
introduced Ron Paul. I would say by 2010.
I was a Libertarian maybe 2011 out.
I don't know, you know, when you actually change what I would
label myself, but this was one thing where when I started
looking at things this way and realize that, you know, the
reason people argue no getting a gain in trouble and stuff like
that is cuz they're speaking the truth.
That's why people are getting censored.
And, of course, with the rest of the quotes I have here.
They're all pretty much examples of, you know, when of things
people spoke out against and got themselves in trouble for even
though it was the truth. Pat.
What is your quote for us here? Okay.
So for the first one, I'm going to start us off with this is a
goodie. I'm going to share my screen
here so we can watch it. But the one of the chemical
weapons attacks that occurred in Syria.
I was just kind of becoming aware of foreign policy.
And I remember this happening where Thomas Massie went on to
talk about why, it doesn't really make sense that Assad
would gassed his own people. So the reason why this is a red
pill quote is because just the Action of the CNN News
correspondent and it was red pilling for me.
Because you can really, really see the establishment narrative
pointing in One Direction. So, it's about a minute, 14
long. We'll just watch it.
I'll speed it up, just a tad here for us.
Here we go. You know, exactly what's
happening in Syria right now. I'd like to know specifically
how that release of chemical gas.
If it if it did occur. And it looks like it did how
that occurred because I don't frankly I don't think Assad
would have done that. It does not serve his interest.
It would tend to draw us into that Civil War even further.
Who. And so you think, who do you
think is behind it. You think you, who do you think
is behind it? You know, you've got a war going
on over there, supposedly that air strike was on an ammo dump.
And so, I don't know if it was released because there was gas.
In the ammo dump or not, that's plausible.
I'm not saying that's what I think happened.
But you're more inclined to believe the position of what
Bashar al-assad is saying and what the Russians are saying,
right now than more inclined, to agree with believe what you're
even. Your colleagues here in the
United States believe is true that this is Assad and which
human rights observers are say, is Assad.
I don't think it would have served Assad's purposes to do a
chemical attack on on his people.
So, I, you know, it's hard for me to understand why he would do
that, if he did. Carson time, Matthew.
Thanks for your time. Yeah, so she doesn't, she
doesn't even know what to say about that.
I just love her reaction to that.
I wish you would have called her a conspiracy theorist for just
making a claim and not having tons of evidence to, to back it
up. But yeah, dude, her eyes.
We forget that. There really are, people who
believe all this nonsense that they are constantly pushing on
us. We are so often reminded of the
people. Just laugh it off and don't care
at all. We forget that there's actual
victims of this, that this Cult of statism Pat, any final
thoughts on the corporate press and believing stories.
With no evidence while calling us conspiracy theorists and
Thomas Massie. Well, Thomas Massie is awesome
and I'll start by that. But I'm other hands.
I mean, this happens all the time.
I just did an episode with Kyle where we were talking about the
China, the, the pure propaganda. Ganda being pushed by
Independent Media and China. We went through tons and tons of
different ones. You had your interview with
James, perloff Keith where you went through Century of War lies
even more time. So it's like this happens over
and over again. The media is complicit in it.
They, in fact, they push these lies.
I went through in World War One, how the British government went
through and pushed all these lies, just in flaming the war
and starting it. But Kyle fight.
If I could tag you about that chemical weapons attack.
What was the Truth that eventually came out from that.
So I'm pretty sure that is the 2018 weapons attack in Khan
shaykhun. He's talking about referring to
the ammo dump and I believe Tom Massie is right there, you know,
it's hard to say what the actual conclusion is because there's a
lot of flaws in the opcw. That's the organization for the
prevention and chemical weapons and their report.
Like people were apparently showing up to the hospital
before the alleged attack, keeping.
Opened. But what we do know is that
there was an ammo dump that the opposition leaders were meeting
in the, you know, these are al Qaeda figures, we're meeting in.
And when that meeting was happening, the Syrian government
in coordination with Russia and in full knowledge of like the
u.s. Carried out that strike on that
ammo dump and Not only was Mo stored there, but in situations
in Syria, the opposition was taking things like Eliezer
cleaners and stuff like that because it's a way to control
the population. And so all that was probably
stored together. And so there's a good article by
Seymour Hersh maybe in the London Review of Books.
I could look up and send you the link Keith that goes into like
what the likely outcome of this was but it definitely wasn't an
Assad. Chemical weapons attack it, you
know, it is tragic that you know, people were poisoned
somehow from this attack and end up dying, but it's not The same
thing as carrying out chemical weapons attack him.
The u.s. Never, you know pretends that
collateral damage is what it is. Yeah.
In the red pill moment from that is look at how bloodthirsty and
complicit the corporate media's look.
How they don't want to wait a single second to gather more
intelligence before starting off a global conflict.
Well what I mean, what could escalate into a global conflict?
Definitely a regional conflict? So yeah.
Anyways, so that's my first one. Mine is from Lysander.
Spooner. Government is in reality
established by the few. And these few will assume the
consent of all the rest, without any such consent, being actually
given, until other words, what he goes on to say in no treason
as even if you got, everyone's consent at the time every single
human being in America, the natives the blacks, the women,
the children. Well, they are now longer alive,
and you don't have the ability. To transfer agreement to your
kids. So this is a totally
illegitimate form of contract transfer, or a transfer of
obligations, rather, according to English common law reading,
this quote was so important because you sort of get this
general idea that well, there is a large-scale consent.
Well, if there is consent, you would first have to say, who was
in on it and then say when it happened you're saying Something
happened. These people, the citizens gave
consent to the government. What date did that occur on?
Sir? Surely if I have your car and
you say, I never gave you my car in order to say when you gave it
to me. One of the first things is, I'd
say where we were and when this happened government cannot do
that in the same way that we would ask any other organization
to. So, really just getting, I guess
it's Spooner's ability to say no.
No, really explain to me. When this consensual agreement
happened, because monarchy we see that's legitimate.
That's just a guy claiming to rule.
But what makes democracy legitimate is it's by the
consent of the governed? And and that's why, you know
what men Arcus States all the way to big governments that are
Republic's Democratic socialism is legitimate because it's based
on consent. That's the difference and
reading Spooner and getting into the idea that it's literally a
microscopic portion of It'll just claiming the right to rule.
Everyone else was such a mind-blowing quote for me that I
had to bring it up here. Kyle, next quote.
All right. The next one I have is from the
Great Scott, Horton. The is 2017 book Fool's, errand,
time to War and the war in Afghanistan.
He says about 9/11, that attack could not have been more
misleading. The planes came out of the clear
blue sky and What's guys talking about here, is that if you look
at the video, it looks like the planes came out of the clear
blue sky and hit the 911 towers and as an American certainly,
you know for as young as I was that time, that's what it
actually felt. Like, you know, America was a
country at peace. We've never you know, we have
been fighting War since the fall of the Soviet Union.
That was that was kind of my take on the world.
And so this was an offensive strike against the us but in
reality and what's God Explains through most of chapter one of
Fool's errand. It is that that absolutely
wasn't the truth. The US was at war with
essentially Iraq, but a lot of the Muslim World from the fall
of the Soviet Union on. WE invade Iraq, we stayed and
we've continued to intervene and bomb several countries and is
not just Iraq under claiming. It was also sedan and others.
Exactly. And Ron Paul mentioned that when
he voted to Impeach Bill Clinton.
Those are like, so are you voting to impeach him for lying
under oath during his deposition?
And he said, I am voting to impeach the president bomb de
pharmaceutical facility in Sudan.
This is going to lead to blow back.
This is you know, going to provoke incidents that Americans
are going to have to pay the price for.
Yes. I'm voting for impeachment.
Unfortunately. I wish it were under different
circumstances. It's incredible that we didn't
get more of that under Trump because it's like, yeah, I'm
voting to impeach him. And then list all the other
terrible things that Trump has done.
It's always like, well, I really do think the the phone call what
the Ukrainian president was. It's so ridiculous.
That Ron Paul is such a breath of fresh air along with of
course Scott's heroic book Fool's errand Pat.
What is the next quote you have? Yeah, so dovetailing off of that
leading up to the September 11th attacks, Kyle anzalone.
He mentioned that the, you know, it's a lot of He's lived in
ignorance and they thought that we weren't at War and the US was
just minding its own business. Well, that leads to in the 90s.
There's this famous quote, which is my second one by Madeleine
Albright at that time. She was the US ambassador to the
UN and she was interviewed by 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley
Stahl in reference to the years of the u.s.
LED economic sanctions against Iraq.
I'll play the clip in a minute, but basically all Madeleine
Albright takes for granted that 500.
Thousand children died because of those sanctions and says that
it was worth it that the price was worth it.
So furthermore, before we play that clip, basically because of
that she was promoted by Bill Clinton to become his secretary
of state and she has attempted to explain it and I'm showing an
article by the great Sheldon Richmond here.
What's the her response? Made it even worse.
She says I must have been crazy. I should have answered the
question by reframing. It in pointing out the inherent
flaws in the premise behind it. Saddam Hussein could have
prevented any child from suffering simply by meeting his
obligations. As soon as I had spoken.
I wish for the power to freeze time and take back those words.
My reply had been a terrible mistake, Hasty clumsy and wrong,
you know, more of a mistake than actually killing the children in
the first place. Nothing matters, more.
Or than the lives of innocent people.
I had fallen into the Trap and said something, I simply did not
mean that was no one's fault. But my own.
So, interestingly enough, the logic she uses here is to say
well, you know, Saddam Hussein Judas should have gone along
with our threatened our threats. He should have met his
obligations. That's like saying, well, I'm a
burglar it's not my fault. I murdered this person when I
was mugging them. They should have just given me
the purse is basically the logic there.
So I'll play the clip here. It's not too long.
Here we go. We have heard it half a million
children of God. I mean, that's more children
than died when in Hiroshima and and, you know, is the price
worth it. I thought this is a very hard
choice, but the price we think the price is worth it.
All right. Yeah, so that was the interview.
Anything to add. Yes.
I'm just making my notes Here. I need to make sure that to see
how many New Yorkers. It's okay for me to murder until
Andrew Cuomo steps down. And then, how many Californians.
I need to murder until Newsome steps down.
I'm just doing, I'm just doing the math.
I'm taking Iraqi population - the deaths and translating it to
the California population. Kyle while I do the math, any
comments on Madeline Albright are our virtuous.
Humble servant. I mean, it's just crazy.
That this is the the foreign policy of humanitarian
intervention is MM responsibility to forget.
And to be honest. I wouldn't at all.
Be surprised if let's say Samantha power's or somebody
like that in the who was a like, kind of a JB.
Member of the B Administration who now is an, are the Obama
Administration who's now in the Trump of ministry are B
Administration, who would less a be confronted about like, Yemen
or Libya. I wonder if, you know, they
would say, you know, well the, you know, the war in Yemen has
been pretty brutal, but we think it was the right decision to
support the Saudis. Like, I could really see them
because they're just that deep of Believers that, you know, eat
if they didn't intervene, it would have been even worse and
so they had Do with it. It's just because that one
person is really mean, is killing people.
It's not us killing anyone. You know, Kyle you got to break
a few eggs to make an omelet Kyle.
I mean, you're just being naive here.
It's great that she like, it's great that she's confronted with
children too. Because if it's men, then or
people in general, then, you know, there are Rockies.
And so they're probably like influenced by Allah.
Our Saddam to do crazy stuff. So, you know, it's a shame.
And that, you know, they're starving to, but it's children.
So you can't even like project that on them.
Is she still like, yeah, it's worth it to kill him.
One of the amazing unappreciated things is that she's referring
to Saddam, who was the head of the government and she's part of
the government in America. This totally throws a wrench in
the belief. That what happens is people are
constantly warring with each other governments come in and
they issue, peace. They issue a sound currency.
They allow for people to trade and respect property rights.
It's the opposite people generally are at peace.
It's not that a ton of Americans hated a ton of Iraqis and a ton
of Frenchman hated a ton of German people.
It's like a few people in governments in the ruling
classes of each country who wage war against each other.
That's the reality of War. So the idea that well, if it
weren't for government, but we'd all be killing each other.
Well, no, because of government. So often were killing each
other. In a Way that we otherwise
wouldn't. So yeah, the belief that
government exists to keep people safe and stop us from going to
war is, is not only not true. It is the antithesis of truth
because they're always trying to provoke us into Wars.
Just on the last two things that Pat has mentioned.
Whether it's a fake war in Syria or a fake war with what Saddam
and how much more proof do you need?
Then? There's Americans who were so
scared after 9/11. That they were willing to bomb
places and go to war with countries that they can find on
a map. It's terrible.
Absolutely nonsense. Mine is from Mark and Rose.
In a book, titled the most dangerous Superstition Larkin.
Road says, if human beings are so careless, stupid and
malicious. That they cannot be trusted to
do the right thing on their own. How would the situation be
improved by taking a subset of those?
Very same careless stupid, a malicious human beings and
giving them societal permission to forcibly control all of the
others. This is important because It
gets to sort of everyone in the conflict of vision scale that
Thomas Soul puts forth. Its like well, there are people
that believe human beings are born good.
And there's people who believe human beings are born terribly
evil. And it's up to us, to sort of
lift them up, and there's other people who sort of find them on
a scale between good and bad, no matter where your view of human
nature, as whether you're, you believe in total depravity as
the Calvinists. Do or you believe in human
beings are born, good. And then there were sewing and
belief that the culture makes them ill and evil and sort of
gets them trying to compete with one another, in vicious ways.
No matter where you stand, there is no legitimate argument for
the belief in government to the belief that some people have the
right to rule over others. So, any claim that well, the the
ideas of volunteerism sound nice, but I just don't trust
people. As large and Rose has also said,
what species do you want running the government?
If you don't trust people and you're afraid of, you know, some
people taking advantage over others.
How does it then follow that you believe in the existence of a
state? One group of people having the
right to rule, I believe in his book.
He says it's literally like saying I don't trust you to be
my neighbor, but I do trust you to be my master.
So is that as it is and as genuinely dangerous, as it can
be to have someone Engaging in activities that they are free to
engage in, it's even worse to allow that person.
We've their participate in the political system.
One of the politicians themselves, not to mention who
was attracted to political power.
But the most evil people in the world, the Kissinger's the
mouths of Stalin's, the Pol pot's the the bin Laden's of the
world and in David Rockefellers and and everything else.
That is my third one, Kyle, Angela.
You're next quote, for us. All right.
So this one was very impactful for me at the time.
And then, once I, you know, I learned a little bit about it
and realize the truth, that was something else and it's from
George W. Bush, who said?
We cannot wait for the final proof.
The Smoking Gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.
And this to me D, would like, when I was a kid, when he said
this, I was probably 11. 12 years old.
I really believed that. If we Didn't go to war in Iraq.
I was going to die. My family was going to die, and
my grandma was going to die and my dog was going to die and when
not old. All right, so, you know, finding
out eventually that the wmds weren't there, you know, that
was kind of explained away. But once I really started to get
into, you know, the sky horn show and stuff, and learned that
not only do what were the wmds. Now, there, that, that was a
lie. I couldn't have been more mad
that somebody made me. So hateful that I just wanted
like, you know, pi and care about like a recce children,
like too bad that your governments trying to kill us
all, you know, you're going to give a wmd toe Sama Ben Laden,
you know, to Nuke the Super Bowl.
Like, that was really things that like, like, that was
warning. I remember after 9/11 I grew up
in st. Louis.
So I think that net Super Bowl was the Patriots versus the Rams
and like in the lead up, like, on local news.
Who's in the lead up to that Super Bowl?
Like they were really like talking about, like, what if
there was a terrorist attack? What's going to happen?
What should people do? And it's absolutely terrifying,
right? And like they're ruining
football for me. And so, yeah, like Obama bright
like, you know, that's only the mind of 11 year old but and this
is supposed to be the mature responsible adult that, you
know, as Keith said, you know, we gotta let the person to run
the state and everything. Well, um, Up with this person
who's willing to terrify children, you know, to try to
get his War. Exactly.
Pat next quote for us. Okay.
So this one goes to what the leads truly think about us.
And it's pretty Stark man. So this is from James Corbett
documentary. How and why Big Oil conquered
the world? I think this is there's three
parts of it. And why I think this is the why
Big Oil conquer the world. So we'll put the the transcript
in the show notes page, but Corbett talks a lot about
Maurice, strong in this Humanity, and he is a Insider
kind of behind the Environmental Conservation, the global warming
movement and the true roots of the, the global warming movement
is anti-human, and all we have to do is listen to what they say
themselves. So, in 1987, as a precursor to
the Rio, Rio de Janeiro, one of the meetings, that was
incredibly important, but Maurice strong organized in.
Mental conference in Denver, Colorado.
It was called the fourth world Wilderness Congress.
The meeting took place in Denver.
As I said it brought together, Maurice strong, David
Rockefeller Edmond de Rothschild, then treasure then
treasury secretary, James Baker, and whole bunch of other.
Oligarchs bankers and Washington power.
Elites. They were going to talk about
the environment and conservation.
Right? Well what they actually
discussed was more incredible as Corbett writes in his
documentary. And I have the link right here.
So it was revealed before I play that David Lang was an Insider.
He was a banker from Montreal who spoke during the conference,
that that's is the one who said the quote that I'm about to
play. But however, there was a scuse
me. There was someone who helped
George hunt, a businessman in Boulder, Colorado volunteered to
help the conference as a concerned Citizen and he came
away completely red pilled in horrified, but would he had
witnessed at the Conference, he released his own recordings of
the proceedings in the early 90s to warn the public about this
group that was meeting and its ultimate aims.
And so, this is a something from his documentary that he, he, he
released later on. So this is the, he talks about
it in this documentary, but this is the actual words that were
said, I suggest therefore the dish be sold not to a democratic
process that would take too long and devour far too much of the
funds to educate the cannon fodder.
Unfortunately, which populates the Earth we have to take almost
annalise's program that we can see the on are swollen bellies
and look to the Future in time frames and in results, which are
not easily understood or which can be with intellectual
honesty. Reduced down to some kind of
simplistic definition. So in case you didn't catch
that, I know the audio was a little garbled, but David Lang
says he refers to selling the their agenda from this
conference not to be put it up through Democratic process that
he says that would take too long.
It would devour far too much of the funds to educate the, the
cannon fodder. Unfortunately, that populates
the Earth. So this is what we are to these
people. We are just cannon fodder were
insects. That need to be crushed under a
boot, essentially. And that's my red Bill quote.
I mean, just seeing past to what the elites really think about us
cannon fodder. Unbelievable.
Absolutely. Yeah, excellent choice on on
that one. My next one is from Stephan.
Kinsella. The reason that this one is
important is that it really gets to the syllogism of what it
means to embrace and ideology. So while you can so often go
back and forth between a republican really means this.
Oh, no, that's a rhino. That's a republican in name.
Only what it really means is and then you can spend so much time
and Engage in so much efforts that ends up being futile.
What he says, for what it means to be an anarchist is to be an
anarchist. Only means that you believe that
aggression is not justified and that states necessarily employee
aggression and therefore, that states, and the aggression.
They necessarily employ are unjustified.
It's quite simple, really, it's in ethical view.
So no surprise. It confuses utilitarians
accordingly. Anyone who is not an anarchist
must maintain either. A aggression is Justified or be
States in particular minimal states?
Do not necessarily employ aggression.
The reason that was so big for me was it's just because can we
really get to the heart of what it means to believe in
voluntourism or anarchism or libertarianism versus statism
monarchy menarche and anything else just the fact that he was
able to falsify the position and say all right, but before we get
into what you We think will happen because you pretend to be
a psychic in the absence of a state.
Let's just say anyone who is not an anarchist as must maintain
either aggression is Justified or states, do not necessarily
employ aggression, for me. That was, that was just such a
Moment of clarity that it allowed me to see things in such
a way. I previously had not been able
to appreciate, Kyle anzalone next, quote.
All right, until my next quote is from Shawn Henry, who is the
CEO of crowdstrike? And he said this in December of
2017. There is not evidence.
They he's referring to the DN c-- emails were actually out,
that's filtrated. There is circumstantial
evidence, but no actual evidence and this was not released until
I believe May of 2020 and it was kept Under Wraps by Adam Schiff,
who was in control of the house committee.
And so the reason that this quote is so important is because
in from what 2016 up until 2018, if you denied that Russia got
the DNC emails and gave them to week.
He leaves. You were a useful idiot of the
Russian regime. At-bats if not a Russian body
and just paid off for the Kremlin and they said that there
was evidence that Russia stole those emails.
This was said time and time again that we know Russia took
the emails and they had this evidence for years that the CEO
of crowdstrike, the FBI didn't investigate the servers that NSA
didn't come to the conclusion that Russia stole, the emails.
They based it off of crowd. Reich.
And crowdstrike says, they have no, actual evidence.
Not, we have some evidence that we don't think, you know, it
would prove Beyond A Reasonable Doubt but no actual evidence.
It's absolutely incredible. And for me, this was crazy
because Russia gate was really one of the first things I like,
I had a very loud opinion on that was like a mainstream
conversation, you know, I cared a lot about Yemen or Palestine
or Syria. But mainly those don't get
talked about and, you know, I would post stuff on Twitter and
I we normies would call me idiots and Trump supporters.
And I was like, no, look, there's just no evidence.
I'm not trying to pick a side here and they insisted that they
were right all along. And they still can't accept the
truth. Now, it's crazy.
Oh, we're all right. So another words, the wrong
about Russia, the wrong about the minimum wage.
They fabricate almost every racial incidents hoax, but We
got to trust them when it comes to the vaccine.
Absolutely anything. They tell us definitely put it
right inside your veins, Pat next quote for us.
Okay. So this is the moment I truly
became an anarchist. I remember it very clearly.
I was in mice. I think before my first year of
law school. I I read anatomy of a state and
that was the moment. I really became an anarchist and
it was maybe this exact paragraph my quote after this
one, my Final quote, is what got me to read anatomy of the state,
but this is when it really truly happens.
So rothbard rights, if then the state is not us, if it is not
the Human family, getting together to decide Mutual
problems. If it is not a lodge meeting or
a country club, then what is it, briefly?
The state is that organization in society, which attempts to
maintain a monopoly on the use of force and violence in a given
territorial area in particular. It is the only organization in
society that obtains its Revenue.
Not by voluntary contribution or payment for services rendered,
but by coercion while other individuals or institutions,
obtain their income by production of goods and
services, it by the peaceful and voluntary sale of these Goods.
And services to others. The state obtains, its Revenue
by the use of compulsion that is by the use of the threat of the
jailhouse. And the bayonet, having used
force and violence to obtain its Revenue.
The state generally goes on to regulate and dictate the other
actions of its individual subjects.
One would think that simple observation of all states
throughout history and over the globe would be proof enough of
this assertion, but the miasma of myth has Lain.
So long over the state activity that elaboration is necessary.
So true. Is that last sentence from
Murray rothbard, I never viewed the state and this lens before
and it is horrifying because it is mainstream accepted as a
foundation of modern political science.
That the state is a monopoly on the use of violence.
This is not some harebrained Theory.
This is a very well solidified. An accepted fact in political
science. It is the Cornerstone of modern
political Theory. Thomas Hobbes wrote about it.
Barack Obama talks about it in an interview with military times
where he talks about the role that military contractors are
playing in our foreign interventionism.
So this is very widely accepted. It's not Murray, rothbard being
some hairbrained, conspiracy crackpot, theorist.
So that was the moment, when I finally realized this, not
through public schooling, but reading on my own that I became
an anarchist. Exactly.
Yeah, and it's so important to understand what you're arguing
about before you start arguing. So when you're arguing with
someone who says, you are a Libertarian Anarchist, so you
don't like schools. It's not schools, that makes
estate unique so you don't like roads.
Well, it's not roads that make the state unit unique.
You don't like people working together.
You just get all of these different bullet points that you
realize are completely irrelevant to the nature of the
state. And what were actually arguing
over. Shane Killian just had An
excellent video of Nick volantis complaining about, you know how
money gets involved and money and Corruption and you know,
people doing favors for each other and politicians and
businessmen. And, you know, it's sort of
exploiting the masses. All of those things have nothing
to do with whether or not the state is legitimate.
But what they do is they make all these criticisms and then
attach them to the voluntary sector.
And then say, therefore, We're doing away with the voluntary
sector. It's that's why rothbart's work,
especially in anatomy of the state is so is so important.
Kyle. Have you read that book?
Anatomy of the state by Murray rothbard?
I have not actually that is probably the best introduction
to a rock guards. Were if anyone hasn't read it
just because it's so short and, and so easy.
My next One is by a historian Bert folsome in his book, The
Myth of the robber, barons, a new look at the rise of big
business in America. He says, The myth of the robber,
barons can be differentiated between political entrepreneurs
and Market entrepreneurs. The political entrepreneur
succeeds by using the implicit violence of government to
Cripple his competitors and harm consumers, the market
entrepreneur. On the other hand makes his
fortune by providing consumers with products.
They need at prices. They can afford and maintains
and expands his market share by remaining Innovative and
responsive to Consumer demand. So the idea that well is
business good, or bad or is money?
Something that is good or bad. Well, those are actually neutral
things. There are principal differences
between people who acquire wealth money and social power as
rothbard likes to say through the voluntary means and people
who use the cohorts of beans. So as evil as John D
Rockefeller, ended up being with his foundations and is
cunningness and all this other terrible.
Sense. In order for him to get any
wealth in the free market. He had to create a good and
service that people wanted to voluntarily purchase same with
Henry Ford if Jeff Bezos is the most evil man on the planet.
I'll look, let's just say, I grant you that he is well in
order to become as rich as he is, he had to create products
and services that benefited, tens of millions of people and
tens of millions of business owners who operate on Amazon
while the state is locking us down stopping Amazon from In any
competition, so seeing the difference that there's actually
a principal difference between political entrepreneurs and
Market entrepreneurs. Stop Me.
Now, pretty much from being a leftist all together and
believing that the problem is private versus public and the
booze was averse the proletariat.
The actual principal difference is between violence and
voluntourism. Kyle's next quote.
All right. The next one I have is from a
New York Times article titled, quiet, support for Saudis and
tangles u.s. In Yemen.
And this is an article by the New York Times where they
interviewed members of the Brock Obama administration.
This wasn't like an expose. It was just explaining why the
Brock Obama administration made the decision to support the
Saudi war in Yemen and to quote from the article the White House
needed to placate. The Saudis as the
administration, completed a nuclear deal with Iran.
Saudis archenemy, that, that alone and clips concern.
Among many of the President's advisers that the Saudi
offensive will be long bloody and indecisive.
And so, you know, this one for me, was crazy because up into
the lead-up of the war. I was listening to this guy horn
show and you know, he had on its first like Nasser are B and I
own a Craig and they were saying like, hey, this is going to be
really nasty. Like we shouldn't get involved
here and not to mention the houthis are the enemies of
al-Qaeda. And it doesn't really seem like
a smart conflict to get involved in.
And it seems like the White House knew that and it was
simply to placate the Saudi princes over there Iran nuclear
deal. And in, of course, now seeing
how this has played out, of course, the Iran nuclear deal is
almost all. A dead at this point.
I mean, it doesn't look like the Biden administration's going to
bother to try to save it at this point and yet the war in Yemen
goes on. I mean, it's absolutely crazy.
They trade a peace deal to start a war and, you know, of course,
Obama was a Peace Prize winner. But even with all of that in the
the war is outliving, the peace deal is is an unbelievable and
stupid, concession that they made.
Passed on next record for us. Okay.
This is my last quote in. It's a little bit long.
So I hope you learned all. I know, I've had long one so
far. I apologize for that.
But this is the other what I was referring to before, before I
read an atom of a state. This is what really turned me on
to the possibility of anarchism. And this is Stefan molyneux used
the story of your enslavement. And it was a video that I
watched on YouTube. The original of course is not
out at all. Re-upload it.
So he begins. This is the story of your
enslavement how it came to be and how you can finally be free.
Like all animals, human beings want to dominate and exploit the
resources around them. At first.
We mostly hunted and fished in Aid off the land, but then
something magical and terrible happened to our minds.
We became alone among the animals afraid of death and of
future loss. And this was the start of a
great tragedy and it never even greater possibility.
You see, when we became afraid of death of Jury and
imprisonment we became controllable.
And so valuable in a way that no other resource could ever be the
greatest resource for any human being, to control is not natural
resources or tools or animals or land, but other human beings.
You can frighten an animal because animals are afraid of
pain in the moment, but you cannot frighten an animal with
the loss of Liberty or with torture or imprisonment in the
future, because animals have very little sense of Tomorrow.
You cannot threaten a cow with torture or sheep with death.
Not swing the sword at a tree and scream at it to produce more
fruit or hold a burning torch to a field in demand more wheat,
you cannot get more eggs by threatening a hand by you can
get a man to give you his eggs by threatening him.
Human farming has been the most profitable in destructive
occupation throughout history and it is now reaching its
destructive climax. Human Society.
Cannot be rationally understood until it is seen for what it is.
A series of farms were human Farmers own human livestock,
some people get confused. Used because governments provide
Healthcare and water and education and Roads and must
imagine that there are some benevolence at work.
Nothing could be further from reality Farmers, provide
Healthcare, and irrigation and training to their livestock.
Some people get confused because we are allowed certain Liberties
and less imagine that our government protects our
freedoms, but Farmers plant, their crops a certain distance
apart to increase their yields and will allow certain animals,
larger stalls or Fields. If it means they will produce
more meat and milk in your Country.
Your text Farm your farmer grants.
You certain freedoms. Not because he cares about your
Liberties, but because he wants to increase his profits.
Are you beginning to see the nature of the cage?
You were born into? So that got me I was that hit me
at the most fertile time. I was very fertile ground for
these ideas but stated that way that was I get chills just
reading it. So I thought it was very red
pill in for me. Definitely.
Yeah, appreciating molyneux's work as a people are de.
Fooling us for not wearing. The masks are taking the
vaccine. My final quote is by Walter E
Williams, rest in peace. He says, prior to capitalism the
way people, amassed great wealth was by looting plundering and
enslaving. Their fellow man capitalism made
it possible to become Wealthy by serving your fellow, man.
I think this is probably Mises great Insight in Human Action
where he talks about, how did we go from, you know plundering and
looting and enslaving and conquering and now there's none
of that and it's not that were impoverished.
And we've given up because of moral considerations.
We're actually wealthier because we don't engage in that.
And what meets us come conclusion is that we aged in
the division of labor people, specialized in something and
then traded with other people, too.
Increase their overall amount of wealth as history goes on.
We are much more Diversified in what we consume and were more
specialized in what we produce. Excellent quotes like that by
Walter Williams along with, you know, large large scale econ
books by people like a little bit Von mises to help us grasp
and appreciate the principles behind things like a free
market. Free trade private property,
allowing people to Lee Express themselves in such a way that
for the same reason, you know, we would wanted L to have access
to more microphones and radio stations than I do.
Well, we would want Scott and Horton to have more access to
books and pieces of paper. Then your average, Joe does
another words, the embracing of private property and inequality
and voluntary, hierarchy far from being this terrible evil
thing. We need to fight against, it's
actually something we should embrace.
So long as it's done voluntarily through peaceful voluntary
exchange. What I want to end our time on
here is I just want to go around and say three books that we
thought really changed the way we see the world and that we
really would recommend that people read, I will go first
because we actually didn't plan on this.
So I'm going to give you a minute to write stuff down here.
So my three books are Michael humours book, the problem of
political Authority. Goes through 1,000 years of
medical justifications. For why?
It's okay for this group of people called the government
group, to rule, another group of people called The Citizen group.
He opens the book up by saying why is it that 535 people called
Congress have the right to rule over 330 million Americans and
something like that was just so mind-blowing at the time that it
was like I was hooked on page one.
The second book is everyday Anarchy by Stefan molyneux.
It was such a non-aggressive introduction into the ideas,
anarchism volunteerism peaceful exchange, voluntary, cooperation
that I finally understood where the anarchist of mindset was
coming from because I saw this sort of this guy who sort of
reasonable, you know, Dave Smith Tom Woods Murray rothbard Lew
Rockwell. I'm like, they're reasonable but
at the same time, They don't even believe in government.
How could they be? So sane yet?
So crazy and then books, like, everyday, Anarchy really made
that clear. Finally, the use and abuse of
logic by Madsen Prairie. He is the head of the Adam Smith
Institute. And this is a book a collection
of 100 logical fallacies that really helped me think clearer
and made sure that I not only had a real justification for
something, but help me from stop, too.
Stop being manipulated by but by irrational arguments.
So those are my three, Michael humors.
The problem of political Authority, everyday, Anarchy by
Stefan molyneux, and the use and abuse of logic by Madsen priori.
Kyle anzalone through books that changed your intellectual life.
I gotta say, you know, your we already talked a little bit
about Spooner, but of course, no treason.
Just the the way that he writes and things about the
Constitution. Is real a real change for me.
I think up until that point. I read this book.
I was like a Libertarian, but a Libertarian who was like, oh,
you know, we follow the Constitution now bring us a
Libertarian society and he completely obliterates that in
that book. And then the other one I had was
Tom Woods 33 questions, the miss one that he goes through and it
was one of the first Astral libertarian books.
I read probably have to Ron Paul's libertarian to find,
which as for what, maybe replace this one on this list, but, you
know, just going through all these little events and history
that you've learned about. And you've learned about in a
way that glorified this state or, you know, push The Narrative
of the state he goes through into bumps like every single
one. And I'm pretty sure I keep one
from that. Book is not from his Politically
Incorrect guy. Book.
Was that World War Two? Brought the US economy out of
the Great Depression learning about that was huge for me at
the time. And then I have up here play by
Aristophanes Called Peace, and it's actually kind of funny.
And he lie, pokes fun, at the war mongers of the time in kind
of talks about how the kind of farmers are conscripted into
the, the wars of the, the politicians and humiliates, like
the arms. Acres and stuff like that and
the play. It's pretty interesting.
And, of course, this is written in ancient Greece and so reading
that and then realizing that oh like this is like apparently
what governments have always done, right?
And just and of course this through satire, it's not like
this, like boring like Greek recounting of like history.
It's like Aristophanes like poking, pretty good fun, and
making poop jokes and stuff, too.
All right, Pat, three books. That changed your life.
First off. That's incredible.
Kyle, is there? He's is he talking about like
the The Shield makers? I got to ask.
How about this, what he's talking about that, even then
the military-industrial complex. Yeah, he at one point.
He's talking about that like helmet makers or something like
that. And, you know, there's like one
of those lines in there, like, you know, go and beat your
Spears into hose or something like that.
My God, that's awesome. So so Kyle, is this book.
Lysistrata is what is the title of the book?
It's piece. It's a play.
It'll be okay because there's one called lysistrata where he
also. Yes, about the military
industrial complex. Where is like, there was such an
industry for more. That the only way to stop this
war was not because, you know, yeah, people were Against
others, the women just said we're going to stop sleeping
with the soldiers until they stop using violence to achieve
their ends. And that's how they do it.
And it's like, oh my God, that kind of wisdom back then because
of course, it's what, you know, of course, it's crossed my mind
today. It's like, well, if we'd stop
clapping for all those soldiers and stop giving them all this
positive attention. Of course, I got cussed out at
Arizona State University for even mentioning such a thing in,
in class once. But, Of course that is, you
know, one peaceful resolution to what to stop a war.
So yeah, I'm sorry to plug up the strata but I was actually
not familiar with what would that one?
Yeah, in fact that another one of my favorite parts of the, I
just things Aristophanes road is he at one point is making fun of
Socrates and he's saying that like the way you do the Socratic
method is to like bend over observe with your asshole.
It's absolutely fine. It's like, it's just great that
like, that kind of humor, these kind of problems, you know, from
ancient, Greece, and everything. Go ahead.
Pat. That's an awesome takai lie.
I love how we just both of us, just turned around, and we're
like, trying to look through our bookshelves being like, what's
your so. My first pick, it would be, it
would be enough already by Scott horn, the one he just released,
but my copy is on the way. It's in the mail right now, so,
but What a good replacement is America's War for the greater
Middle East by Andrew base of itch.
And I picked this one because before I read this book, I had
absolutely no context. I knew nothing about foreign
policy. This starts with the Jimmy
Carter years and works works its way to the mid 2000 teams.
And so I would suggest everyone start here.
It's really easy to understand basic bitch is in the military
himself, and he just It all out in a good way that, you know,
this is this is a book that you could give your, your, your
Republican. Dad, who's always supported the
wars? And it's one thing, you know,
he'll be receptive to it. Because it's by someone in the
military. It's not written by some peace
hippie. Peaceniks.
What have you? So that's a good one.
Very informative. My second pick is reclaiming the
American Revolution, the Kentucky and Virginia
resolutions and their legacy. And this Is written by William J
Watkins jr. I've talked about it on my show
a lot, but it actually goes through the Deep dive history of
the Kentucky, and Virginia resolutions how they came to be
what the political climate was, how they, how they were
received, and how we can use it in the modern day to fight
against the federal government. I know we did Lysander Spooner
and no treason, but if the Constitution's there, you might
as well use it just as well as any other methods, so, I'll
defer to my interview with Michael, Bolton on that one as
well. And the last one that I have is
this one is really was my introduction to economics.
Aside from economics in one lesson.
But this is this is actually not the one that I wanted to grab.
Anyways. Well, this one is a history of
money and banking in the United States by Murray rothbard.
So this is a good one, too, but I'm trying to think of it was a
Murray rothbard one, like our enemy.
The thank you. Of the mystery of banking.
Yes. Yes.
Thank you Keith. Yeah, the mystery of banking.
So that was the one that taught me about the FED.
How the FED operates, what money is, and what currency debasement
is and all that kind of fun stuff.
So those are my picks. Excellent gentlemen, thank you
so much for your time. Kyle.
Remind everyone where they can find the collection of your work
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it's funny reading about rothbart.
The old Works where he had said that, you know, Warren piece
might be the solution to the whole of libertarian question.
Overall. And you see that in what changes
someone from being more of a conservative, someone who's a
utilitarian to someone who's really principled, Mass
murderers wrong, theft is wrong, kidnapping is wrong, torturers
wrong inherently, regardless of geographical area, something
arbitrary like that. And so, the secrets that is Is
taking this principle that you believe in, and then applying it
not only to America or Canada, or North America, but also to
all human beings on planet Earth.
So when I see that and then I see Scott Horton riding, you
know, he's also with us at the libertarian Institute making the
most important foreign policy contributions that I could think
of. I mean, I know Robert Pape of
course wrote a book cutting the fuse along with dying to win.
Other than that. I mean, I think Scott Horton has
made the greatest foreign policy contributions of our day, which
rothbard said was the most essential issue who was the
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