Anarchy is the simple recognition that no man woman or
group thereof is ever wise enough to come up with the best
possible way to run other people's lives.
Just as no one else could be able to enforce on you.
His choice of a marriage partner or compelled you to follow a
career of his choosing. No one else should be able to
enforce his preferences for social organization upon you.
Welcome to keep my don't tread on anyone.
And the libertarian Institute today.
I have Shane of what's Happening, Shane, the thank you
for Joining me. Where is the best place to find
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the description below. Shane.
How would you describe anarcho-capitalism to someone
completely unfamiliar with the ideas?
well, that's I'm sure you have a lot of anarcho-capitalist or and
caps that watch your show. So I'm just going to go right
off the bat and say that me talking about
anarcho-capitalism. They're probably going to be
shaking their head because that's something that I've been
grappling with. I see, people say that.
Antico capitalism is like an oxymoron because they'll say,
well, capitalism is a system with a government in and, of
course, Anarchy or and I'll go is no government.
So it doesn't seem like those which fit too.
Well, they would don't seem like oxymorons, but for someone who's
not familiar with it and to kind of help, I guess better explain
it. It will just be to let the free
market. Kind of, I guess, correct
itself, or to help. Kind of the economy get where it
needs to be because we're what we're living in right now,
obviously isn't an end cap Society or even really a
capitalist Society what kind of hoped especially now with all
the covid stuff that's happened. We're living in a more of a
fascist Society. So I don't know.
That's probably not really answering your question, but
that's it's just something that I've been kind of grappling with
myself. So even me, I'm not even 100%
familiar with anarcho-capitalism, so Teeth,
how would you describe a capitalism to me?
I would describe it as a society where there is the no
institutionalized recognition of any person or group of people
having the right to initiate aggression or physical
interference with anyone else. So, the only two ways that human
beings could achieve their ends would be through voluntary
exchange contract, or original appropriation, which is mixing
their labor. Or Contracting with other people
with unowned property or virgin land so to speak.
That's how I do it to you too. The average person I'd say, it
would be separation of economy and state.
For the same reason, we have separation of church and state.
All interactions should be voluntary.
What makes government unique is that claims the right to
initiate aggression against peaceful people?
That is probably what what I would say you had mentioned that
anatomy of the state was a book that Was said pretty much.
I got you really interested in a lot of these ideas.
What are some of the things you learn from anatomy of the state
and Murray rothbard? Well, just that simple question
of. Do you hate the state?
I think it kind of kept the capsule eights everything.
But yeah, that book is interesting because The way that
he kind of described government like you were saying they have
this, the Monopoly on force and violence and everything like
that. It was something where someone
with a virgin mind like myself kind of looking into these
ideas. It was mind-blowing.
I guess you could say and I, and I didn't even know about Anatomy
estate until I first started listening to part of the problem
with Dave Smith. So Dave Smith is really the
reason that I kind of got into libertarianism the first place,
where the very least got interested in those ideas
because and I wish I knew exactly the episode that I that
I watched or listened to because at the time I was a compound
media subscriber and he he's 1/3 of the Legion of skanks and they
are they used to be part of compound media and it's because
at the time I wasn't really like Legions Keynes was just there.
I was mainly to watch Anthony Kumi and show but Maybe they had
a Gaston or someone that I was interested in.
Maybe Anthony was on. I don't know, a hundred percent,
but maybe Dave mentioned. Oh, yeah, I'm host of part of
the problem as well. I'm doing his events or
something like that. So I was like, okay, I'll maybe
I'll listen to part of the problem and then just how he
pulled it was talking about politics and everything.
Like that was really eye-opening because someone like me, where I
was only familiar with Republican Democrat,
conservative liberal. That was about it.
I was pretty much what I was thinking of.
Oh, it's just a two-part. That's it.
You know, it's just Just McCain Obama.
That's it. So you got so pick Who you gonna
get democracy, right democracy at work.
But so I know I'm kind of going all over the place with your
original question, but that's what led me to anatomy of the
state. And I don't know.
It's interesting because I think someone who isn't even a
Libertarian can look at that book.
And even if they don't become a full-fledged, libertarian or
Anarchist, even am an artist, I guess you could say, they can
look at it and read it and everything be like, well, that
was, it was really interesting because he kind of puts he says
things and that like I was just saying I hadn't even
contemplated before. I know it's really unbelievable.
Like, on page 11. He just sums it up.
So, clearly rothbard says, the state, is that organization in
society, which attempts to maintain a monopoly on the use
of force and violence in a given territorial area in particular.
It is the only organization in society that obtains its
Revenue, not by voluntary, contribution, or payment for
services rendered, but by coercion when I read that it was
just almost life-changing because I had been I had so
long, I had talked about what government should do, what it
shouldn't do, who's running it, how Civics works.
And I never had a consistent definition of government.
The whole time was just getting a solid definition, so much of a
red pill for you that it almost just follows.
Logically, if you really know what it is.
You either are not thinking about it or your kind of
immoral. Yeah, you're kind of I guess
making excuses for what the It is doing to people and I mean
just as of as of this recording tax day.
It was just around the corner or we just passed it or whatever.
And That's that's one of those things because oh, yeah, you're
that that all that phrase. Everyone says, well, there's
only two things that are inevitable, death and taxes, but
then we anatomist State and just other libertarian works.
You think? Well, of course death everybody
dies, but Taxes went around. I'm pretty sure.
I mean, maybe they were back because that's one of the
reasons why the colony started existing was because all
taxation with representation teas at a 2% tax.
We don't like this. And now everybody makes this get
well, you know, you gotta pay your taxes to have the roads
built, or whatever, you know, or you gonna have taxes or taxes
page that we can go and bomb Afghanistan or something like
that, you know. So and and then on page 53, I
think he also does an excellent job just as the two basic and
mutually exclusive interrelations between men are
peaceful cooperation or coercive exploitation production or
predation. So the history of mankind,
particularly its economic history.
May be considered as a contest between these two principles.
I think that's so vitally important because what are the
two divides today black versus white Mexican?
American man versus woman in Rich versus poor when those are
so obviously fake and fraudulent.
How do you get people? If you do to stop seeing things
through this arbitrary, false divide, and get them to see
things on principle? well, I mean, you kind of just
also said it where They kind of try and pin or divide everybody
with this black-and-white or basically trying to divide
everyone with race or anything like that and all that.
But with principle, I think I think how I try and do it at
least, especially on our podcast, is to kind of just show
that it doesn't matter where the whether they have an r or D next
to their name. They're all corrupt.
They're all blood-soaked monsters and they're all just
It's just a game, really? And they're supposed to
represent you. That's why it's some of them are
called Representatives, but they clearly don't onion like Sounds
like some of the representatives are still trying to make these
excuses, to where we need to stay in the Middle East, when
the people are clearly in favor of getting the troops out.
But if they're supposed to represent us all 80% of
Americans, or of my constituents, whatever, think
that we should get it. Okay.
Well, I will vote to get them to, you know, to get the people
out to get this the military out of Afghanistan.
Ah, I'm good. I have all this money is coming
in from the military industrial complex, and all these And
everything like that, Israel Lobby, I'm all right, I'm Gonna
Keep. I got man, those pockets of
money that I got there, deep. I don't get rid of that.
So I kind of just I basically try and show people just the
just how much of a scam it all is really, as best as I possibly
can and try in some Layman way. I try to do it like that.
Dave Smith obviously has really been a big influence on both of
us. He wrote the forward to Peak
Winona's his book. He says it is equally ridiculous
that Libertarians, still must argue our case.
After all, what civilized person would not embrace the principle
of non-aggression, who would reject the philosophy of peace
and prosperity. While the Socialist nightmare
was playing out. The 20th century.
Saw those countries that embraced individual liberty or
at least in a far better job of it.
Enjoy a level of wealth and comfort never experienced in.
Three in the 21st century, hundreds of millions had been
pulled out of extreme poverty by market liberalization.
The Marxist socialist experiments that are still
taking place, Cuba Venezuela, North Korea, to name a few all,
share the classic features of mass poverty starvation and a
totalitarian state. How do you think such evil ideas
are able to last so long? Well, I think if you tried real
socialism, then it would work is not is not the correct answer.
Of course, it's always that it wasn't the right person.
See whenever the free market fails.
It's inherently bad. Like they would never give us
the leeway of saying, you know what, those were some bad CEOs
of those companies. So we just need different CEOs.
So now you're never going to stop us.
We're always going to have the oh if only.
Different CFO or a CO o had been in a higher position, you know,
of course. It's so hard to falsify.
Have you found anything really beneficial when it comes to
communicating the ideas of Freedom?
That sort of, just really red pill someone or wake them up to
the nature of the state or the evils of socialism, and statism
will kind of going back to the answer that I said before, just
kind of showing that doesn't matter.
What are they have in our are D next to their name?
You're really kind of have to look at their actions more than
what they say. Because, you know, they'll say
oh, yeah, I think this and that whatever but then when you look
at their voting record, it's a completely different story and I
think. I think was showing that because
like Bernie Sanders is a big name that he's a big guy is
trying to get all the Socialist, like, proposals and or whatever.
And but even with that, even with him being in there, they
kind of look at them as this, you know, the kind of look at
them with one eye open. I don't know about this guy and
then in the AOC as well, Alexandria cause of Cortez, and
I guess, I don't know what they're what a team.
That she has other the other three, what?
They could the squad. That's it.
The squad. But I mean.
I don't know. I think the whole thing is just
the whole thing is just stupid. As far as other things, you've
learned from Dave Smith. I just love what a great
communicator. He is.
I think he's so cool. He can talk to Ben.
Burgess, Nick Fuentes Anthony Kumi ofcourse.
And you know what? Jim Norton Anthony Come On, Dave
Smith are together. I'm just like in heaven.
They're like just my favorite people.
What are some other things? Whether they're like empirical
knowledge, you got from Dave Smith or Ways of communicating
that you thought were beneficial.
Well, one of the things that just overall thing that he was
talking about was a no few years ago.
Net neutrality was a huge issue. And everybody was saying, oh,
forget rid of net neutrality, internet's going to go.
We're gonna have to pay a thousand dollars for internet
and you know those tweets Racine where every like one line and no
space one line because internet's going to be
downloading super slow speeds. If we get rid of net neutrality
and he was just like well, I mean as far as No, no neutrality
hasn't been around forever. It's only been around for not
too long. And then, of course.
Now net neutrality is no longer around and we're doing this
fine. Everybody can watch it fine.
Everybody still got Wi-Fi, everybody still watching videos
on YouTube and odyssey, whatever.
So, I mean, as far as I know, it's had wasn't a problem with
net neutrality, not being there. And so I know that was a big big
thing that he was talking about. Just those few episodes that he
did about net neutrality. And then also, I think the
biggest thing that he would talk about is just the wars and I
mean I joked with him when he did that reason to be that the
so form with Nick's all working and I was basically joking with
him saying that because I asked Nick saw her question about
what's his what's his biggest issue and everything like that.
And and I said, well, I already know what days answer is going
to be. It's the wars and because you
know, all he talks about his podcast is Libya and Yemen is
like the get it, you know, so What did, what did Nick say his
biggest issue was the War on Drugs?
Okay, you know, that's not terrible.
Yeah, it was just because that that really is the root of so
much like whenever there that the cops are saying.
Well, let me talk to you. Let me get a little more
information. Let me search your car, all
these encroachments. It's not well I suspect you of
rape murder kidnapping and slavery.
It's always you might have drugs on you.
That's always Their justification.
So it's just like this little tyranny window that they could
open up at anytime and androgen you also see videos of them
planting drugs on people's Euro. He had we are but my god, oh, oh
shit, there's weed right there. There was that one video that
was going viral. Just recently where?
I guess it was the guys daughters ashes or something but
are saying oh it's we got to test this for drugs, whatever.
And he was like no, it's my it's my daughters ashes and some
little necklace thing that he had on and it was just it was so
stupid. Ridiculous.
It's just, it broke your heart when you're watching this
because the guys was pleading, please just give me back my
daughter and her like now we gotta test it.
You know, everyone's laughing all the cops like this is great.
What we gotta do. Oh, really?
Okay, and I don't know I think Just yeah, just that in general.
It's just yeah, I kind of know when when someone says to you,
I'm terrified of a world where there aren't drug laws.
I feel like everyone's going to be using and everything.
Do you ever try to persuade them?
That the ideas of voluntourism will not lead to the chaotic
World. They so often.
Fear it will Well, even with the drug laws that we have now,
people are still doing them. So obviously the laws aren't
Aren't working or at the very least, not 100% how they're
supposed to whatever because it's like Ron Paul said when he
was talking about drug, the this getting rid of the war on drugs
and all that. They do, you think the heels
pulling a camera, what state he was in one of those two
Republican debate, seems like how many of you people would
just start shooting up cocaine if they got rid of all drug
laws, and of course, probably hardly, maybe one person, maybe
what it would do it, but I know, I wouldn't because I see the
effects of it and how harmful it can be.
So, I'm like, oh, well, I guess once the laws are gone.
I guess I'll just start snorting coke.
Well, also, during alcohol, prohibition, you had to hide it
because the state was going to kidnap you.
So, what you would do is you'd have a much more dangerous
higher potent amount in moonshine, and moonshine, was
very popular. And now today because it's not
illegal. You can drink beer and you it's
not everyone is using moonshine. So not, everyone would be using
meth people would be using some derivative of, you know, what is
commonly referred to as, probably Adderall or something
like that or Kratom probably just because it's more
accessible. So yeah, they're they're
constantly faking or just trying to scare us with absolute
nonsense. How about Michael?
Malice? What are some things you learned
from Michael malice? Michael malice is another guy
that just the way that he kind of puts things into perspective,
kind of like one of his big, one of the big catch phrases that he
says, that conservatism is progressivism driving the speed
limit and It's like, okay, so progressives were.
You know like pro-gay marriage or something like that and then
now considers are, you know, gay marriage is fine when before
they enact Caitlyn Jenner's running, right?
Right. Exactly.
So just how even though the progressives are here.
It's only gonna be a matter of time as those conservatives.
They're like, oh, yeah. I heard that too.
I mean, at the very least, maybe not.
People wouldn't agree with them. But, at the very least, if can
serve her still even nowadays, if they were still, now, we're
still think marriage should be between a man and a woman, at
least we would have a different It's like, oh, yeah, Democrat
Progressive believes in gay marriage and the Republican
conservative thinks that it should be a man woman.
Okay. Well, now, at least, I get, I
know where they're coming from, not just oh, yeah.
I'm a republican conservative, but I don't problem gay
marriage. It's fine.
If a Democrat Progressive hurt them, and get why?
I mean, they're probably going to vote for me anyway, but even
still, it's like, why am I going to vote for that?
Purse? All those vote for the Democrats
and progressives? Exactly.
Yeah, I see that as saying that Progressive conservatives rather
don't really have a solid foundation to refer to.
So if they say something like, well what the founders wanted
is, well, okay, the founders of North Korea.
Kim il-sung wanted there to be a dictatorship.
So therefore dictatorship is moral because that was their
country's founding. Well, no, it's democracy.
So mob rule. Well, no, it's a republic where
you have But then you can see Representatives don't even
represent the people and the people are ignorant.
So you probably don't even want them having representation in
the first place. So it's on such it lacks such
Solid Ground. That it's no wonder that they
just follow the people that are actually in power controlling
the press and everything. Yeah, and I don't know if
Michael Mouse will ever see this or not, but I'm just going to go
and say that of all the guys that They have influenced me or
that I kind of I guess look up to I suppose politically he's
the one that I think intimidates me the most because just his
social media presence. You know, I feel if if you say
one wrong thing or not, even a wrong thing, even if it says
something he doesn't like it was blockading and get you know,
ostracize you but I can't dive. So sometimes I don't want to
interact with him because I'm saying, man, even if I agree
with this guy, he might just still block them because the new
the word I used was wrong or something.
I don't know. So Well, if you're ever if you
ever watch this, I'm intimidated by you.
And I know that I'm six foot and your the Willy Wonka Politics as
Dave Rubin calls you. But that's how I feel.
Most important thing you learned from the works and contributions
of Tom Woods. Tom Waits.
Oh, yeah, that guy he He's another one like Dave, where he
just, he kind of breaks the mold of the three by five card of
allowable opinion. I feel like I'm just telling
everyone to catch phrases of all these people, you know, that's
like the whole thing just their catchphrase.
I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, so but um, I mean Tom is just His just the amount of
stuff that he puts out all the time.
It's really, it's really admirable.
Just how much he works and I think that's one of the things
I've learned is it's maybe not just his what he says
politically it's just his work. Ethic is just absolutely
incredible. And yeah, I think that's
definitely something that People can guess latch onto, but in
terms of just what he, what he says, or what he believes in
politically. I mean, these guys are kind of
interchangeable in terms of how they believe, what they believe
in because they're kind of all in the same ilk I suppose.
But Tom is another good communicator like Dave, where he
can Even if he comes at a, more of a, scholarly way of doing it,
where Dave is kind of more I guess to Street Smart type of
way. I suppose you can say, because
he's kind of more of the mazes stand-up comic and Legion of
skanks, of course, he has a different audience than Tom, but
the way that he kind of talks about Capitalism.
And I mean the cartoon that he's dead.
He has with Michael. Malice.
I'm watching nose, and him talking about Woodrow Wilson.
And I all I ever want to stay in the world.
Your Wilson is, or not, everybody.
But all these scholarly people, every time they rank.
They asked these high scholarly people at what their ranking, a
presence is Woodrow Wilson is for some reason always near the
top. I don't get it and, you know,
learning about how would your Wilson was this huge racist and
they didn't mention it in the episode.
It like the whole Federal Reserve I think happened while
he was President, I believe but yeah, just just how we kind of
conveys his message. I think is is really good.
Yeah, Tom is definitely an excellent Communicator.
I want to go into foreign policy because this was one where I was
a conservative for so long. It was really the foreign policy
element that I thought the Libertarians volunteer us were
pretty good except for foreign policy.
What was it? It about the work of Scott
Horton that you found so attractive.
He's another one that if it wasn't for Dave, I would have.
I mean, I probably have got to him eventually, but the ones
were David and I would have, I would have never gotten into
Scott as early as I did. But Just talking about how.
And I said this earlier too, and I'll probably say this again,
but just two are in the D. It doesn't really matter because
How it's supposed to be is that the D's are supposed to be doves
or supposed to love peace. You're supposed to want.
No, Bloodshed and not want the war stat to be going on and the
ours were supposed to be the ones.
They're like, no, we gotta, we gotta spread American democracy.
That's, that's how it was supposed to be.
But nowadays. It's basically just, they're all
the same and I think for me that was the best was the biggest
issue. The foreign policy for For sure,
where it really lit. A candle over my head where I
was just like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
I mean, Joe Biden was one of the, he's one of the biggest war
mongers, Obama was supposed to be this President.
And of course, he started Wars George W Bush when he was
running for president in the debate without doors that we
should be doing these nation building things, whatever.
And of course, it's the whole war on terror basically started
under him and Donald Trump is another one.
Oh, yeah, we know he's Wars or stupid your brother.
Let us in the war. And of course, Donald Trump
still did all the things he was he was being really hawkish
towards Russia and getting out of the Iran nuclear deal and all
that stuff is I mean, I guess because I know some people say
well he didn't start any wars but I mean, he still, he still a
them up and I know he tried to get out of Afghanistan but for
still over there and and all that, but that was one of those
big issues that Scott really pounded on it with his guests
and everything. Where that's that's the, I think
that's the biggest issue for me. That I think I care about the
most because I feel if we just if we stopped A lot of the
foreign policy even to 50% of it.
It would it would solve a lot of the problems that we're dealing
with here at home. And yeah, that there was a great
part in Scotts book on page 38, where he quotes, deputy
secretary of defense Paul wolfowitz in an interview, with
Sam. Tommy, Haas of Vanity Fair in
2003. So, here's Paul wolfowitz in an
interview with Vanity Fair, very few.
People are going to read contrast.
This with what bush is saying about why the terrorists hate
us. There are a lot of things that
are different. Now, that the u.s.
Iraq and one that is gone almost unnoticed, but it's huge.
It's that we can now remove almost all our forces from Saudi
Arabia, their presence. They are over the last 12 years
have been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly
government. It's been a huge recruiting
device for Al-Qaeda. In fact, if you look at Bin
Laden one of his principal grievances was the presence of
so-called Crusader forces on the Holy Land Mecca and Medina, I
think just lifting that burden from the Saudis is itself.
If going to open the door to other positive things, I don't
want to speak in mess ionic terms.
It's not going to be changes overnight, but it's a huge
Improvement. Isn't that a little different
than they hate us cuz girls go to school in America.
Oh my God. What was it for you?
That was it any empirical evidence?
Was it trying to put yourself in the shoes of countries?
The u.s. Is occupying.
How was it that you were able to question the War Machine?
We'll definitely putting your shoe on the other foot.
I think helped where if Russia or China invaded us, then we
would have blowback and we probably they're probably a
bunch of American terrorist groups going after Russia and
China, you know, and that's what we see, nowadays with all, you
know, Isis and Al Qaeda and you know, and one when Ron Paul had
That Rudy Giuliani moment talking about.
Well, just like I were talking about we're all they don't they
don't hate us because of our freedoms.
They hate us because we're over, they're bombing the crap out of
them. And that was another big moment.
for me, but I think it's just if you're for the non-aggression
principle, I don't know how you can somewhat justify what's
going on because okay, if we were truly going after the
people that Not the towers down on 9/11 then.
And I'm not saying, I'm not justifying.
I'm not saying I would agree with them to saying, wouldn't we
be starting this war against Saudi Arabia?
Not Afghanistan Iraq, because as far as I know, is in Saudi
Arabia, I wasn't the one of the terrorists during 9/11 weren't
allowed them from Saudi Arabia, but apparently nobody, the oh,
yes, but Saudi Arabia is an ally beerus.
We can't be, can't screw that up my wrong there.
Yeah. So according to Philip zelikow
was 9/11 commission, report 15 of the 19 were from Saudi
Arabia, the others were from Egypt, you know, the guy
motivated by Hi, I'm Ann dolls, Iowa carry.
Another guy from United Arab Emirates and these sorts of
places. So yeah, of course, but it's a
lot harder to paint them as as the enemy.
When, when you can always have that as a card to play later.
I mean Afghanistan and Al Qaeda, we're just, we're just so
perfect. And there's another part in
Scotts book. That was a major red pill moment
for me on page 51. He lists off.
This was so great because he lives off a number of Horses, so
it does it's not just hearsay or well, maybe this reporter, got
it wrong, CBS CBC News. 2001, White House says, no to Taliban
demand for proof, on the intern, press service.
U.s. Refusal of 2001, Taliban offer
gave Ben Laden. A free pass ABC News, 2001
October u.s. Rejects new Taliban offer, Bush
rejects, Taliban offer, Washington, Post, new offer on
Bin Laden the guardian, October 16.
And one. So when you see that there was
actually an offer to hand over the world's most wanted, man.
You've realized they didn't want the most wanted man because then
they wouldn't have this enemy to go after.
And when you start seeing that these things, it's not that
they're so hidden. It's that they, the evidence is
there, but they amplify so much other trivial nonsense.
Net. Neutrality is, going to kill us
Florida's. Lifting restrictions, Greg.
Abbott. Can't stand up but Can't stand
up to what, you know, whatever you can.
He can't stand up to the insurrectionist are just one of
those clever lines anything else.
On Scott Horton or conflicts of interests.
Also known as foreign policy. Focus, Kyle and Sloane's.
Foreign policy work. Oh, yeah.
Kyle's great. Kyle is basically just like a
branch off of Scott Horton. And I'm just, I was just saying
that because I wanted to shout out.
Foreign policy focus in conflicts of interest he and
will Porter's new show and I was wondering the shot them out.
I think they're doing incredible work.
They're saying a lot of the things that even some
Libertarians are afraid of talking about especially with
the israel-palestine Venus in the news right now.
They're basically saying, hey, this is this is all this like
Palestines occupied by Israel. And so we're going to talk about
that. We're this isn't, this isn't
some like own On one's one's good and one is bad, or
probably. Actually.
That is the point once who is this, isn't some like you want
steak. It should be no Israel's
occupying. One people.
And we should be defending these people, or at the very least,
say, in the world. They're being genocided and
they're being ethnically cleansed.
And they're just outright saying it.
They're not being afraid. I think they're one of the most
unafraid shows out there and they just need, they need to be
amped up. They need more, people need to
know about conflicts of interest and I know they mainly talk
about foreign policy and I know foreign policy is in some a sexy
issue, but it's probably the most important issue.
And so I'm just basically saying that too. spread their, their
message out and They're also one of the ones where, when the
whole Russia gate stuff was happening there.
Another one of those shows that we're just Going right through
and saying this was all stupid. I don't know how people can say
Trump. Is this Russian puppet when he's
being really hawkish towards Russia as I alluded to earlier.
So they're just really unafraid and they're not scared to speak
their mind and I just, I really respect them for that.
Exactly. And finally a free man beyond
the wall, my friend, and colleague at the libertarian
Institute, along with Kyle and Scott.
Are some of the things you learn from Peach conus, be Canon is
great. He has got causing the
Firebrand. He's another one just like Kyle.
Well, who's just you just you just speak his mind.
He's not afraid if he'll just he'll just kick your ass
basically. Verbally and I respect him for
that, really like them and I know some people probably get
rubbed off the wrong way with how he what how he says things
whatever but I really like it. A show.
He has some of the most interesting guests on that.
You won't find anywhere else. I don't think.
And especially with this, with the, with this kuf the coup flu
and all that. He's another one.
That's just been knocking it out of the park and not afraid to
say. I mean, it did.
This is one of the things that's kind of annoyed me about this is
that and I really, I really do think that if you weren't.
Convinced that there's all these factions of libertarianism this
issue alone. Should really should have really
solidified a free because there are Libertarians, who say, no.
Well, you know, they said the CDC and the government said,
wear a mask and get the vaccine. Well, you should get it, but
okay. So if if we were supposed to
hate the corporate press and it's kind of going back to like
foreign policy. We're supposed to hate the
corporate press and not believe in anything they say.
But when it comes to Israel Palestine, well, I'm not saying
that the word say everything, you're saying understands true.
Okay, cool. Same thing with the covid and
vaccine or whatever. Oh, yeah, I don't like the
state. But I guess I'll just get the
vaccine because they said, so because dr.
Fauci is my Overlord. I'm going to listen to
everything. He says, I thought Libertarians
was supposed to be this anti-state.
This rebellious people but it's like it gets really confusing
and kind of annoying. They see Libertarians fighting
over this and then like you should be on the same side and
he's another he's one of those people that says that where he's
like, I don't know how you can think this way.
It should be this way. And that's that's just one of
the things that I that I admire about, the guy exactly more
proof that even Libertarians can't be trusted with power.
They will use it for evil Shane. Thank you so much for your time.
Check out the show. What's Happening links in the
description below? Thank you for watching Keith
Knight. Don't try it on anyone in the
libertarian Institute, Shane. Thank you for your time,
brother. Thanks, Keith.
I really appreciate you. Having me on.