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Taxation is the price. 
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civilized society. 
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greater the failure, a centrally
planned totalitarian state 

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represents a complete defeat for
the Civilized World, while a 

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totally voluntary Society 
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Welcome to Keith's night. 
Don't tread on anyone today. 

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We have Mark and Rose the author
of the most dangerous 

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Superstition, mandatory reading 
for anyone interested in 

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understanding the world around 
them and Mark, passio of what on

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Earth is happening at. 
Lutely, must see his seminar 

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titled natural law first 
question to Mark. 

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Passio Mark. 
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I would say that freedom is a 
state whereby, individuals can 

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exercise their rights 
unrestrained from coercion and 

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or the initiation of aggression 
through coercion, and that that 

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is the natural state of 
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Humanity should be living in the
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Whereby. 
Our rights are not constrained 

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or basically. 
We are threatened. 

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I the initiation of physical 
Force, duress, coercion for the 

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exercise of rights, which are 
actions that do not cause do not

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initiate harm to other sentient 
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So, that to me is the state of 
true Freedom, Mark and Rose. 

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What is for him? 
Pretty much what he said, I 

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think, you know, people often 
confuse the notion of well, I 

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should be free to have a house 
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And the other thing and they 
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is actually, and right, sort of 
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It doesn't mean you have the 
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Like, well, you have the right 
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Stop. 
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you have to find a way to fly to
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the moon. 
So Freedom doesn't mean I can do

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whatever I want. 
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forcibly, interfering with me 
doing whatever I can inside what

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I want, you know, inside the I'm
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So Larkin. 
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to do something? 
What we're really saying is is a

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person morally justified in 
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doesn't initiate, fraud or 
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specific on what I write is that
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Well just that it's the - to 
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My mind just means nobody else 
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speaking. 
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I mean, if I'm alone on an 
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To have the right to freedom of 
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there's nobody else there who 
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interfere. 
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negative to say. 
I have a right to X. 

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Just means if I choose to do X. 
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intervene to try to stop. 
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Mark. 
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What is a right, a, right, is an
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harm against another sentient 
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It's a very simple definition, 
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out. 
That is a negative definition. 

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You'll notice that I didn't go 
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Okay. 
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First of all, that's what we're 
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But we're defining a right in 
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It is an action that does not 
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falls Within In the boundaries 
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that do initiate harm against 
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Rape, theft, trespass, coercion 
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Those are the seven. 
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deadly sins, the seven 
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law, the seven transgressions 
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beings inherent rights Mark, 
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Natural law is a set of 
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a nun and immutable conditions 
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consequences of the behaviors 
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for holistic intelligence choose
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So I consider it the karmic 
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I consider it the spiritual laws
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It governs. 
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as the morality of a group of 
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of people declines or degrades, 
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That is how natural law 
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Morgan. 
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morality is objective. 
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thinks it's okay to Butcher and 
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as accurate, a moral view as the
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that, then it's meaningless. 
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natural law, but I talked about 
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It is a moral, should it isn't, 
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create or generate or, you know,
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It's just a description of here 
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right and wrong. 
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different opinions, you know, 
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well, I think this is bad in 
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I'm not trying to invent it. 
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about science and have this 
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And, you know, the obvious parts
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that don't Rob them, and then 
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stuff. 
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term, that that defines. 
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behave and the number one, 
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don't aggress against others. 
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certain political rituals, 
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appointments or whatever else 
can actually dystopia upon a 

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select group of human beings, 
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It's not just about the ability 
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Lots of people, you know, if 
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ability to control their 
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make them government. 
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authority, meaning the right to 
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exists. 
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The violence is very real, all 
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it, the authority to do, it is 
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So the problem is not the thing 
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Us. 
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the fact that those people in 
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problem, the belief system, and 
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That is the problem, Mark. 
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Or a state government is a false
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I would go even further and say 
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It is a cult belief system 
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is a religious belief that is 
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government is that there is such
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vested in man, and that is 
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of violence, which is the 
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toward other beings that are 
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Their Rights, because of the 
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class that call themselves, the 
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want to impose, their will 
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Coercively. 
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therefore, restrain their 
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That's what government is to me.
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take what I just said there and 
condense it down, it comes down 

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to three. 
Simple words, government is 

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slavery. 
Mark what is anarchism anarchism

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simply is the state by which 
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people. 
There are no Masters and there 

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are no slaves. 
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derived from two Greek words, 
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simply means without, or the 
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And the now, Narcos archon in 
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the actual. 
Annotate of sense of being an 

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owner of other people like a 
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over its subjects. 
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someone who has come to a very 
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and is therefore called a master
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like that. 
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Arcos or Arcana in Greek means a
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who is above his subjects. 
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words together and an archon 
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means the absence of rulers or 
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that there are no Masters and no
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state of Freedom Larkin. 
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Well, he just gave it a perfect 
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Anarchism is the advocacy of 
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It's it's even sort of silly and
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Santa Claus, there is not a word
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Advocate killing and eating his 
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authoritarianism, and statism is
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But because it's so rampant, 
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That means, I'm one of the 
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to violently dominate. 
You I think the day will come. 

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And I don't even think it's all 
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nobody will use the word because
it will literally Everybody 

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because everyone will have 
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but for now being an anarchist 
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want to rule or for me and I 
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I want you to be actually free. 
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sort of the step, one of being a
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I don't even see it. 
As some, you know, outlandish 

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philosophy. 
It's just like how to be 

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civilized 101. 
You have this great quote in 

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your book if human beings are so
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that they cannot be trusted to 
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How would the situation be 
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those? 
Very same careless, stupid and 

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malicious human beings and 
giving them societal permission 

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to forcibly control, all the 
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Excellent point in the most 
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Passio. 
What is gun control? 

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A gun control is the restraint 
by the ruling class and or their

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enforcers to coercively and 
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The natural inherent right of 
self-defense with firearms from 

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the people who they consider 
that they have, the right to 

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rule over. 
And it is a coercive violent 

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Behavior, because it actually 
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else's property. 
Namely the right of 

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self-defense. 
Larkin. 

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Help us get through this 
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What is gun control? 
Really mean? 

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We have Justin Trudeau yesterday
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all military grade weapons. 
Illegal, of course, not for the 

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state, a monopoly, for the state
Larkin. 

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What is gun control really mean?
Help us get to the heart of it. 

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Almost everything that 
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It uses euphemisms for? 
And it dishonestly describes. 

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Gun control is a shining 
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It's this nice sounding. 
Oh, We're sort of limiting, 

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something scary or something. 
It is the accurate term is 

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basically peasant disarmament. 
It's the ruling class because 

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they never apply it to 
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It's the ruling class saying, 
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you're not allowed to have guns 
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certain kinds of guns. 
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mean, if we catch you doing 
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guns. 
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disobeying us. 
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form of gun violence immoral in 
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aggression in the immoral to 
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possessing that thing I & my 
thugs with their guns, I'm going

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to come, you know, capture and 
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that what is called gun control 
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Example of gun violence Mark 
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called the second out, the true 
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Second Amendment Mark. 
I'm curious. 

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Why do you oppose gun control? 
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Just about helping people and 
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safe and Cooperative, not at 
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It's about creating a power 
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And that's what government 
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its own power. 
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individual and their rights and 
freedom. 

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I'm opposed to it because I 
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has the inherent right to defend
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From coercion and violence. 
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initiating harm against another 
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And what gun control is is, as 
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of Violence by the people who 
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ruling class to actually, you 
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Peaceful people simply for 
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If an individual doesn't have 
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the action cannot be delegated 
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individual or group and thereby 
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a right. 
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delegation of a wrong, you know,
so if an individual would not 

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have the right to go and seize 
forcibly, and coercively, and 

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violently someone else's 
property that right, cannot be 

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granted to any other individual 
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called a, right. 
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inherent rights and included. 
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inherent rights, that each 
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any more or less than anyone 
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Your physical self, your 
physical being your property, 

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your rights and your freedom 
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aggression by others. 
Now, Larkin, how can you not 

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support gun control For Heaven's
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The u.s. 
Is this gun-toting place? 

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And that's why There's so much 
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Larkin. 
How can you seriously oppose gun

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control? 
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Because it is gun violence, like
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people using guns for bad 
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So much of the way state is 
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And voters, think in the way 
government functions is like a 

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teacher and little kids, like 
the teacher saying, well, you 

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little kids, when you're in my 
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have guns. 
You're not allowed to do this. 

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Like we're grown-ups the notion 
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a whole bunch of armed guards 
himself and then be should tell 

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the rest of us. 
You're not allowed to have what 

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my thugs have every day and will
use on you. 

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If you disobey me because you're
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It's too risky. 
You're too unstable to for 

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anyone to accept that view as 
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fact that they're either a 
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both. 
Of and gun control is completely

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founded on the notion that the 
Masters have the right to decide

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for us. 
What we are allowed to possess 

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in order to defend ourselves 
from, you know, from criminals 

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from Invaders, or from the 
master himself. 

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In at the end of the day. 
That is the only reason they 

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ever push gun control. 
Because if you had human 

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livestock, would you want it to 
have guns? 

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Mark? 
Passio? 

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Do you not care about the Ends 
of Americans who died at the 

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hands of gun violence. 
Just because someone else 

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initiates harm or aggression 
doesn't mean that other people 

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lose their rights as a result. 
You know, this is totally flawed

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logic. 
That is often put out there by 

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people who are Advocates of 
ridiculous forms of violence, 

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like gun control, you know, I 
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learn how to defend themselves 
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violence, instead of trying to 
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It's the idea that, you know, if
let's say a lion attacks, a 

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gazelle, and they did, Did it 
with teeth that then you disarm 

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and take all the teeth out of 
the gazelle, so they have no 

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ability to even bite their their
aggressor. 

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You know, that's what gun 
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It's, it's basically saying 
because they're bad, people who 

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might do violent things with 
Firearms. 

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Let's take them away from the 
people and let them lose their 

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ability to possibly defend 
themselves from such attacks. 

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It's completely and utterly 
flawed logic. 

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And again, as we've pointed out 
over and over again, is a form 

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of violence with guns, which we 
firmly stand. 

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Exactly. 
And the 30,000 annually. 

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Statistic is first of all a lie,
because half of those are 

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suicides. 
It's not violence. 

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If you do it to yourself any 
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money is stealing from myself. 
And also a lot of those are Gang

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Related. 
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cause of mafias and gangs 
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gambling drugs, prostitution 
drive them underground just as 

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there's no Al Capone today, 
being violent with alcohol, 

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there wouldn't be any if there 
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drug war or any of these these 
black markets Mark and Rose. 

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What? 
Is there? 

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Any other important message you 
would like to communicate about 

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gun control? 
You feel is not generally 

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understood. 
Well, I think there there really

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is a trained in immaturity to a 
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Now in the u.s., There are a lot
of exceptions to this. 

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There are a lot of people in the
US who do take it upon 

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themselves to realize. 
Hey, I'm just as responsible as 

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anybody else. 
If there's, you know, if there's

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some scary person out there, why
would Sit on my button. 

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Hope Authority saves the day, 
you know, if I have a gun, if I 

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have the means and the ability 
to go stop the bad guy. 

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It's just as much my job as 
anybody else's, but there are 

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also. 
So many people in the country 

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who have this immature notion 
that if we just sit tight and 

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wait for authority to save us 
and protect us and tell us what 

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we're allowed to have and what 
we're doing. 

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Like everything will turn out 
fine. 

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First of all, those people need 
to read a damn history book, but

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second of all, they literally 
need to grow up people who Leave

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in government literally need to 
grow up and realize, this is the

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real world. 
There's you. 

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There's other people were in 
this together so to speak. 

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And if you want yourself to be 
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which you do. 
If you dial 911, Here's a 

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thought. 
Have somebody with a gun 

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already. 
Be at your house by having it be

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you. 
And the fact that so few people 

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even think about that and 
realize that if We're going to 

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cheer for the forcible 
protection of the innocent. 

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Why don't you just be one of the
people who do that? 

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You don't need a badge. 
You don't, you just special 

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Authority. 
You need to grow up and be moral

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and responsible. 
Another way. 

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They lie with Statistics is 
saying, well, in 1996, Australia

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had a gun ban, and, you know, 
everything went fine violence 

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has decreased what they don't 
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prior violence was all gun. 
Violence was also on the fall 

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and they use A seven year period
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violence in Australia. 
Fell about 22% in the US and 

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that same seven year, period, 
gun violence, fell twenty nine 

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percent. 
So, this is how they'll vote. 

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The world was just for whatever 
reason. 

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You can't say that was as a 
causal result of the gun 

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confiscation bill. 
So that's why it's so important 

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to not fewer statistic, go do a 
bunch of research and then find 

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out that the person was just 
using it as a stalling tactic. 

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We got to get down to the 
principal's. 

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Um, oh and one other thing it's 
like does government not also 

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kill innocent people with guns. 
I mean every criticism up. 

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Well, but innocent people will 
die. 

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If civilians have guns have 
government's ever killed 

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civilians. 
I don't know, Eric Garner Waco 

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World War One, World War, Two 
Vietnam War King. 

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Leopold. 
Like there's a there's all these

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examples Mark passio final 
thoughts on gun control. 

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Those who advocate for gun 
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violence and people never really
look at it. 

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That way. 
They think that they're doing 

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the right thing. 
But what they are actually 

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saying is we believe that a 
special class of people who 

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magically have more rights than 
other people do have the right 

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to come and coercively and 
violently suppress other 

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people's rights with gun 
violence. 

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I mean imagine that you know, 
that's what the people who are 

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Advocates of gun control 
actually believe and yet still 

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believe that they are good 
people. 

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Quote unquote now Advocates of 
violence. 

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Now Market, you have been very 
critical of the police. 

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However, it's I guess no one's 
told you that they're just doing

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their job and they don't make 
the laws congress. 

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Makes the laws For Heaven's 
Sake, Mark. 

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Why are you so critical of 
police when they don't make the 

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laws in, they're just doing 
their job. 

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Well, the SS the schutzstaffel, 
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Nazi of Vermont and high command
in Nazi. 

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Germany also issued orders and 
You know, the the people who 

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were undergoing war crimes 
tribunals at nürnberg offered 

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that same excuse the Nuremberg 
defense, and it didn't work 

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there, because there is no 
excuse for following and moral 

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orders. 
Someone is commanding you and 

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saying we're giving you an order
to go and suppress someone 

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else's natural rights through 
coercion and violence. 

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The answer is you have to say, 
no, and or quit that job. 

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See, I don't really believe that
there is any use or Reason? 

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Or police forces to exist 
because I believe in total 

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personal responsibility. 
That means that each individual 

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should take it upon themselves 
for their own defense. 

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Because no one is closer to your
own body than you. 

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First of all, it is impossible 
for someone else to actually 

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engage in self defense forward 
on another individual because 

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you can never get there faster 
than the individual themselves. 

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This is one of the first and 
foremost principles of all 

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martial arts, including 
self-defense with Firearms, so I

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don't think that we should. 
Try to give any group of people 

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Especial select group of rights 
that we say that other people 

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don't possess. 
Because as soon as you do that, 

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you're creating a differential 
in power and that's always going

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to be abused by people who are 
flawed human beings and it's a 

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it's a fundamentally flawed 
axiomatic idea from the very 

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beginning from Jump Street. 
That is a flawed axiomatic idea 

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to say, anyone else should be 
personally responsible for your 

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self defense. 
No, you You need to be 

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personally responsible for your 
self defense and learn self 

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defense techniques through 
martial arts and the usage of 

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firearms. 
Larkin are the police 

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responsible for enforcing 
immoral laws. 

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Absolutely. 
And as much as I talk about how 

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voters and Advocates of 
government think like children, 

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that is even more true of cops 
and enforcers. 

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The ironic thing is they pretend
to be where the tough rugged 

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bad, guys. 
Keeping you they are physically 

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and intellectually the most 
immature people there are 

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because when you challenge them 
and say you're doing something 

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immoral, they say I'm just doing
what I'm told. 

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It's like a little kid in 
classroom. 

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The teacher told me. 
Do this. 

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So I'm doing it and you know, I 
can't be expected to have a 

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conscience or a brain or the 
ability to distinguish right 

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from wrong or take 
responsibility for what I am 

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personally doing. 
It really is the most cowardly 

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and evil thing. 
Anybody can do to give away 

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their own judgement and 
conscience and Free Will in 

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blindly. 
Obey, some imaginary outside 

458
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,100
Authority. 
And that's what cops and 

459
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,000
soldiers are. 
And of course, they would never 

460
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,400
extend that courtesy to you. 
Yes, officer. 

461
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,300
I was dealing drugs but this is 
my job. 

462
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,400
My Pablo Escobar boss told me to
do this. 

463
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,500
So do Lobby him to change. 
His policy of selling things. 

464
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,700
Don't, don't cage me. 
I'm just doing my job. 

465
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,700
I'm just a hired assassin. 
I'm just a hired bank robber, 

466
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,000
and house Invader. 
It's so it's so obvious. 

467
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,800
Once you apply the principle 
that they pretend to believe in 

468
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800
consistently. 
You see, they don't apply it 

469
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,300
anywhere in their own life. 
Mark passio. 

470
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,400
I was reading David Schmidt's, a
philosopher at the University of

471
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,700
Arizona and he says Freedom 
Classical liberalism 

472
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:42,200
libertarianism means the ability
to say no, how do you respond 

473
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,900
Mark 100%? 
Absolutely agreed. 

474
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,000
I'm a huge study, our of 
esoteric philosophy and the 

475
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,600
Occult. 
As many people who know my 

476
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,500
background and my work would 
know. 

477
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,400
And the word no is actually 
referred to as the Lost word in 

478
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,200
the occult. 
Science and art of Freemasonry, 

479
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:06,900
and that is the word of all 
power as far as I'm concerned. 

480
00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,700
See, that is the ability to 
basically tell an aggressor. 

481
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:15,800
I'm not going to tolerate this 
form of coercion violence or 

482
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,400
aggression, against my natural 
rights, my freedom, my property,

483
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,000
Etc. 
And you have to be able to say 

484
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,900
no with teeth. 
You can't just use it as a word 

485
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:29,900
and expect people who are 
Psychopathic in their mindset. 

486
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:35,800
And hell bent on committing 
violent acts to just hear the 

487
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,000
word. 
No and go. 

488
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,700
Oh, okay. 
I guess you're right. 

489
00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:42,600
I'll back down, you know, saying
no with teeth means you have to 

490
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:46,800
always maintain the ability to 
defend yourself with physical 

491
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,300
force. 
And again, that is done in the 

492
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,200
modern world through the 
equalizer known as Firearms. 

493
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,700
I would also say you could say 
no with teeth through some form 

494
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:01,100
of personal. 
Self-defense in the form of 

495
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,700
martial arts as well, which I 
also practice and study but 

496
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,400
Firearms are so important when 
it comes to equalizing a 

497
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,600
potential huge discrepancy in 
physical power, you know, like 

498
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,500
for instance a very thin Woman 
versus a you know, a 260-pound 

499
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:23,700
huge muscled man, you know, so 
absolutely. 

500
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:27,900
I say that everyone really has 
to have the ability to say no 

501
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:31,200
with teeth. 
That is part of Preserving our 

502
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,400
inherent right of self-defense, 
especially with Firearms. 

503
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:39,800
So Larkin what I hear from this 
is saying no is saying, no, I 

504
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,300
don't want to be part of 
society. 

505
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:44,700
No, I don't want to do anything 
for anyone else is freedom. 

506
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,400
Is this a philosophy of being 
selfish Larkin? 

507
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,700
Not in the slightest? 
Well, unless you mean selfish in

508
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:56,200
the the good sense of it is my 
responsibility to take care of 

509
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,900
myself and like not I don't care
what happens to anybody. 

510
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Else, but I'm in charge of me 
and I'm responsible for my 

511
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,300
actions. 
But I think when it comes to the

512
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,300
notion of saying No, this 
discussion just reminded me of 

513
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,500
many years ago. 
I wrote a little flyer thing 

514
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,700
that was titled stop saying 
please and it was about how so 

515
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:21,900
many people, the closest thing 
they get to say no to 

516
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:25,900
authoritarian, control freaks is
asking them nicely to, please. 

517
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,800
Give us permission to have a 
little bit more freedom. 

518
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,800
And so, the whole article of 
stop saying, please was about 

519
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,300
stop telling these people that 
it's their choice. 

520
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,900
What you are allowed to do, what
you do. 

521
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:41,800
When you vote, or you protection
there. 

522
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:46,200
When you do anything other than 
saying, no, I'm not going along 

523
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,400
with this. 
I will disobey, I will resist, I

524
00:29:48,408 --> 00:29:50,500
don't care what your laws say. 
I don't care what your 

525
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:52,600
legislation says. 
I don't care what the majority 

526
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,500
says. 
I don't care. 

527
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,000
What anything else says I say 
no. 

528
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,900
And yes, that is absolutely a 
lost art. 

529
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,800
Or whatever you want to call it 
in so many people because even 

530
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,600
so many people who say, they 
believe in Freedom, spend so 

531
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,500
much of their time asking the 
politicians to please give us 

532
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:14,000
their legislative permission to 
be a little bit more free. 

533
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,300
If you are asking somebody else 
for your freedom, you're not 

534
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:20,700
even free inside your own head. 
It's pretty incredible. 

535
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,900
They've gotten the philosophy of
peace and non-aggression to mean

536
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,100
selfishness mean. 
Why are the their philosophy is?

537
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,700
You have to obey Ari? 
Because we wrote them down and 

538
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:35,700
voted and if we're going to 
catch you and shoot you, if you 

539
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:39,200
resist, Mark Pesce, if I may add
a quick a quick addendum to that

540
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,700
saying, no, I mean, the the the 
very first as far as I'm 

541
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:46,800
concerned of all human rights is
the right to be left alone and 

542
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,600
the right to refuse 
participation in something, you 

543
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,400
know, I mean, imagine someone 
saying You must do this thing 

544
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,300
and you not being allowed to say
no. 

545
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,700
That is called slavery to 
command another person. 

546
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:07,000
And compel. 
Their behavior is to say, is the

547
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,300
to make the claim that you are 
the master over their body, and 

548
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:14,600
that's called slavery. 
So of course, saying no to 

549
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,100
participation in anything that 
government or anyone else in 

550
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:21,800
society for that matter. 
Once you do isn't selfish. 

551
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,800
It's a natural right to do. 
So Mark, when I hear the ideas 

552
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,400
of anarchism. 
It sounds like this utopian pipe

553
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,400
dream that This assumes everyone
is fine. 

554
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,100
And everyone is a good moral 
person. 

555
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,200
How do you respond? 
Well, the very word Utopia means

556
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,000
nowhere. 
So the the concept of Utopia 

557
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,100
doesn't mean a wonderful place. 
It means that it is an illusion 

558
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:47,800
that does not exist anywhere. 
That's literally. 

559
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,900
What is meant by Utopia. 
So, you know, there is no such 

560
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:56,900
thing as a place that is going 
to be free of any suffering of 

561
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:01,200
any negativity of any 
Uncomfortableness. 

562
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:05,400
Okay, there is that that's that 
is a pipe dream. 

563
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:09,100
Okay. 
Claiming that people should 

564
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,400
saying that. 
We know that people should 

565
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,600
interact with each other on a 
volunteer basis. 

566
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400
Free from coercion. 
And the initiation of violence 

567
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,700
isn't saying that there is that 
will create a perfect world. 

568
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:25,200
Immediately is saying that by 
continuing the cult belief 

569
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,800
system of government, which is 
slavery that you are in. 

570
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,700
During that violence continues 
unabated, you know, you are 

571
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:37,100
ensuring that you're never going
to work toward a world that has 

572
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:39,800
less violence in it and more 
freedom in it. 

573
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,700
But to anarchists are in no way.
Claiming that just creating a 

574
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:49,900
society whereby, there are no 
Masters and no slaves will be a 

575
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,100
perfect place. 
There will still be problems. 

576
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,600
There will still be human 
struggles, and there will still 

577
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,500
be suffering in the world in 
many different forms. 

578
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:03,400
Just not in the form that we've 
created a structured society. 

579
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,100
That is a hierarchical eBay 
Society based on Masters who 

580
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:10,500
have many more rights than their
slaves which they can just 

581
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,500
dictate whatever their rights 
happen to be at any given time. 

582
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,300
That's all anarchists are saying
the, we're not saying that it 

583
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,500
will create any sort of a 
perfect peaceful place. 

584
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:23,100
It's the great non sequitur. 
It's like saying things are 

585
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,600
imperfect in nature. 
Therefore, the Church of 

586
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,500
Scientology has the right to 
coercively rule, hundreds of 

587
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,100
millions of people. 
Well, how do you know that that 

588
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,000
will lead to more problems? 
They don't have the right. 

589
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,900
Either way in the first place 
Larkin, Rose. 

590
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,300
Anarchism is utopian and relies 
on everyone being a perfectly 

591
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,200
knowledgeable. 
Perfectly kind person. 

592
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:47,000
How do you respond? 
It's, it's very weird that 

593
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,300
anybody thinks this and they 
only think that because they 

594
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:50,500
actually haven't thought about 
it. 

595
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:54,300
They just feel it because it's 
an uncomfortable unfamiliar idea

596
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:58,200
to them to live in a society 
without a ruling class, the the 

597
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,700
accusation that it's Utopia. 
Pian and that'll never work. 

598
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:06,000
And the advocacy of government 
is the same as saying. 

599
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:08,600
We will never have a world 
without murder. 

600
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,400
Therefore. 
Let us Advocate a little bit, a 

601
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,300
limited amount of murder. 
Now, I oppose all murder. 

602
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:18,800
Is that utopian? 
No, it's called being moral. 

603
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,300
Does it mean that I think we 
will actually have a world 

604
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,500
without murder. 
No, it doesn't. 

605
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:28,400
It means that's what I advocate.
So for somebody to say that it's

606
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,600
utopian. 
Opposed all initiation of 

607
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,699
violence, but somehow it isn't 
to Advocate the initiation of 

608
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:40,900
violence and to give certain 
people power over everybody 

609
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:43,400
else. 
As if there could be anything 

610
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,699
more. 
Ridiculously pipe dreamish than 

611
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:49,500
saying, we're going to give 
these people permission to 

612
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,199
control and robbed the rest of 
us and I'm sure they'll do it 

613
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,500
for our own good and thinking 
that will end. 

614
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:58,800
Well, as Mark said, none of us 
are saying this makes a perfect 

615
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,900
world. 
It does remove the biggest 

616
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,100
problem in the world which right
now is the thing that Believers 

617
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:08,600
of government Advocate and they 
push for and they make it 

618
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,400
happen. 
And then when you say that big 

619
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,500
monstrosity is creating evil and
suffering Way Beyond anything 

620
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,400
else, they say? 
Well without it, it would be 

621
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,500
even worse. 
And they say that 100% is a 

622
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,400
result of result of 
indoctrination in 0% as a result

623
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,900
of actual evidence and logic. 
It's incredible. 

624
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,200
You were once debating someone 
Larkin and it was Tom will a cut

625
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,100
and he was so flabbergasted. 
He goes. 

626
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Look. 
I just I just don't trust 

627
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,600
people. 
And you go, what species, do you

628
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,500
want running government? 
So it was so terrific. 

629
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,200
And yeah, just just take that 
and apply it. 

630
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Consistently people are evil 
except on the second Tuesday in 

631
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,800
November. 
When they vote, we need to have 

632
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
voting democracy is inherently 
good. 

633
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,400
So that they don't even hold 
this consistently Mark passio. 

634
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,600
I would embrace the ideas of 
anarchism. 

635
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,900
But I am so worried about the 
poor government currently helps 

636
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,600
the poor in the absence of 
government. 

637
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,100
The poor might not be helped. 
Mark. 

638
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,300
How do you respond? 
This is essentially the advocacy

639
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:21,100
of theft because to say that 
someone must contribute any 

640
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,000
amount of the product of their 
labor. 

641
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:29,300
But through coercion is to make 
a claim on the Of the labor of 

642
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:33,500
that Bing and by doing so you 
are indirectly making a claim on

643
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:37,400
that which produced that product
of labor, which is the body 

644
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,300
itself. 
So once again, anyone advocating

645
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:44,600
for taxation redistribution of 
wealth taking from the rich to 

646
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
give to the poor Etc is 
advocating for theft. 

647
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,900
If something is not done 
voluntarily, it is done only 

648
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:55,500
through coercion and duress, 
which is violence in and of 

649
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:57,400
itself. 
So, all we are here. 

650
00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:01,400
Are advocating here today. 
Keith is that we don't want 

651
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,000
people to initiate violence to 
others just to get done in the 

652
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,700
world. 
What they think should get done.

653
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:11,500
If it gets done. 
It has to get done on a 

654
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,400
voluntary basis and you know, 
for people who have such a dark 

655
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,300
world view of other people that 
don't think if people kept more 

656
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,300
of the product of their labor 
that they would be more 

657
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,400
charitable. 
They really haven't really 

658
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400
studied the dynamic where the 
data at all. 

659
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,900
They just have a belief system 
about it and really that's all 

660
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:28,700
that religion. 
That's all, I'm sorry. 

661
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:31,900
The government of really is in 
any of it of its forms, or in 

662
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:35,200
any of its decrees or enactments
or the waves, did it does 

663
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,300
things, it is a religious 
institution and that's how 

664
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,300
people have to really start 
seeing government. 

665
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,400
They need to see it as a 
religion. 

666
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,400
No different than any other 
religion, except for the fact 

667
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,100
that it's actually more violent 
and has even cause more death 

668
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:53,200
through demo side than almost 
any other religious institution 

669
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,000
on the face of the Earth, Mark 
and Rose. 

670
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000
I care about the polar and 
That's why I don't Embrace 

671
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200
libertarianism or anarchism 
Larkin. 

672
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,600
How do you respond? 
There's so many people who just,

673
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,900
they know, what they know. 
They know the life. 

674
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,700
They're in what they're 
familiar, what they've seen and 

675
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:12,200
they have a hard time imagining 
or predicting things. 

676
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,100
Otherwise, so literally if you 
stuck them in a cage and gave 

677
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:19,100
them a bowl of gruel every day 
and kept them that way for ten 

678
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,400
years and some of the open the 
cage door. 

679
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,200
Some of them would say, how do I
know? 

680
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,600
There's going to be food out 
there. 

681
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,400
Like I have my bowl of gruel. 
I have my roof over my head. 

682
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,000
It's not a great roof to roof 
because that's all they've seen.

683
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,100
And so government will use that 
to control something. 

684
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,200
And then say, without us, this 
wouldn't be the case. 

685
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,100
So if you look at the Soviet 
Union, you know, they can say 

686
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,000
you wouldn't have any food. 
If not for us. 

687
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,100
You have to stand in bread 
lines, maybe get a little bit of

688
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,900
moldy garbage after a few hours.
But without else, you wouldn't 

689
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:52,500
have any well that lie doesn't 
work in the u.s. 

690
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,100
Because we have supermarkets and
you can go there and buy all 

691
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,400
sorts of food, but government is
always. 

692
00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:01,700
Trying to take over areas of 
society and then tell us this 

693
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,000
wouldn't happen without us. 
Never mind that. 

694
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,800
You know, when it comes to the 
poor in spite of being robbed by

695
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400
the ruling class. 
Americans are ridiculously 

696
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,900
generous to the tunes of 
billions of dollars a year and 

697
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:17,000
all of the Taxation and 
regulation that gets in the way 

698
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,000
of helping people have places to
live and food and everything. 

699
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,100
It's just a matter of 
government, literally 

700
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:27,500
interfering with us, 
voluntarily, finding Solutions. 

701
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,900
And then saying see this is why 
we can't have a voluntary 

702
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:33,300
Society because you can solve 
these never mind. 

703
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:36,700
They are the reason they can't 
be voluntarily. 

704
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:41,500
Sold right now because agents of
the state with guns will stop 

705
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:46,200
you from solving it and then say
that's why you need us Mark. 

706
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:50,700
Don't we need to have at least 
some government to protect 

707
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,300
consumers and to protect 
employees. 

708
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:55,600
Maybe protect employers, 
sometimes from foreign 

709
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,300
competition. 
Don't we need some sort of? 

710
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,500
Bass societal protection. 
Mark, how do you respond? 

711
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,600
I mean, that's basically the 
argument of saying, don't we 

712
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,900
need some slavery to keep 
Society. 

713
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,500
Moving in. 
Any one particular direction, 

714
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:14,700
all government is immoral 
because it is the idea that 

715
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:19,600
certain people have the right to
issue commands to other people. 

716
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,300
And that those other people have
some sort of a moral obligation 

717
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:27,400
to follow the commands of this, 
dictate toriel ruling class. 

718
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,500
On its face. 
This is the the major paradigm 

719
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:34,700
shift that people have to make 
and this is actually a spiritual

720
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,800
shift in Consciousness, believe 
it or not, is to understand that

721
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,700
the concept of government is on 
its face inherently immoral 

722
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:48,200
because the entirety of the 
concept of the institution is 

723
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,400
based upon coercion violence and
keeping people in the state 

724
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,800
known as duress, which is the 
state of threat of violence. 

725
00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:00,400
This is The government generally
rules is through threat of 

726
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200
violence. 
You know how much people say? 

727
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,400
Oh, there's less violence in the
world today than there ever was 

728
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,600
physically? 
That may be the case. 

729
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,200
But guess what? 
There's probably more duress 

730
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:13,200
there is more threat of 
violence. 

731
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,600
If there is not compliance with 
government decrees than in any 

732
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,800
other time in the world. 
So the people who are advocating

733
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,700
for all of these things even 
menarche ISM are ultimately 

734
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:27,300
Advocates of coercion violence 
and duress. 

735
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:31,500
We have to keep going back to 
that simple concept, and they 

736
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,400
cannot argue a different 
position. 

737
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,300
If they actually are honest 
about what the behaviors that 

738
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,000
they Advocate are. 
If you actually put their feet 

739
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,800
to the fire and say, please 
explain to me what this Behavior

740
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,500
would ultimately have to look 
like in the physical 3D World. 

741
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:53,500
They would describe a situation 
where enforcers were armed 

742
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:58,900
individuals come and command the
Science with the decrees of 

743
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:00,800
their political Overlord 
Masters. 

744
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,000
There is no way around it for 
them. 

745
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,900
Logically. 
They would have to explain it 

746
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:07,000
like that if they're being 
honest with themselves. 

747
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:09,600
So that's what I say to. 
All men are kiss and those who 

748
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,700
Advocate just for keeping 
government as a, you know, a 

749
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:14,600
protectorate or something of 
that nature. 

750
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,700
It's still giving claiming that 
you can give rights that. 

751
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:23,800
The individual does not possess.
If none of us have a thousand 

752
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,100
dollars to give to anyone, we 
cannot all come together and 

753
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,300
give the Nonexistent thousand 
dollars to anyone else, rights 

754
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:34,700
cannot be conferred, granted or,
you know, transacted to other 

755
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:37,000
individuals. 
If those who are making the 

756
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
claim that they're doing that, 
don't have that right 

757
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
themselves. 
So if we look at what people 

758
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,800
would say, they want to keep 
government for even in a 

759
00:42:43,808 --> 00:42:46,400
minimalist terminology in 
America. 

760
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,300
Some point of view, if they 
don't have the right to do those

761
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:53,900
things individually, they cannot
be granted to anyone else to do 

762
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:56,800
and magically call it a right. 
When in fact, it is a wrongdoing

763
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
based. 
Violence Larkin. 

764
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Do we need government for 
Consumer regulation, employee 

765
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,000
regulation, and some Foundation,
societal structure, when people 

766
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,700
say, well, we still need 
government for this, whatever it

767
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,400
is, whatever they finish that 
sentence with what they're 

768
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,900
saying is, Well, in this case, 
we need to have some people 

769
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:23,800
committing violent aggression in
a way that the rest of us have 

770
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,900
no right to do. 
We need some people to not be. 

771
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,800
The by morality basically, 
they're allowed to be violent 

772
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Thugs. 
And whatever the problem, 

773
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600
whether you're talking about, 
you know, poverty or consumer 

774
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200
protectionism, or the 
environment, or yada yada yada, 

775
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:40,900
whatever it is including real 
problems. 

776
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:47,300
The notion that the answer is to
tell somebody you get to make 

777
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:50,200
it, you know, make a decision. 
Come up with a plan and 

778
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,400
violently impose it on the rest 
of us in a way that none of us 

779
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,400
have the right to do as if 
that's going to make it better 

780
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,700
is a Example of why I say 
Advocates of government are 

781
00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:03,900
immature in their minds. 
It's literally a matter of we're

782
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:05,700
not sure how we would handle 
this. 

783
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,600
So we want big daddy government 
or big mommy, government, 

784
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,000
handling it, because we're not 
sure what it would look like 

785
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,200
otherwise, but to to jump to 
saying, well, this is why we 

786
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,200
need government is literally 
saying, this is why we need to 

787
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,400
add immoral violent aggression 
into society. 

788
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,300
Just for this thing, over here, 
just to take care of the poor to

789
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,300
protect us from this. 
No we do. 

790
00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:31,600
In no case. 
Do we need to nor should we add 

791
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,700
immoral violence into society? 
And that is all that. 

792
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:39,700
The belief in government adds is
the impression that violent 

793
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:42,300
aggression can sometimes be 
legitimate. 

794
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:43,700
And I don't mean defensive 
Force. 

795
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:48,100
I mean, aggression against 
innocence government, the belief

796
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,700
in government relies entirely on
the notion that that can be 

797
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:55,000
legitimate to initiate violence 
against somebody who didn't do 

798
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,200
anything to you. 
No, we don't need that. 

799
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,800
Insanity. 
Now, most societies today, have 

800
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,200
government's pretty much 
everyone. 

801
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,700
I could think of most throughout
history have also had 

802
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:07,500
governments Larkin. 
Why is this so hard for an 

803
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:15,000
artist to accept? 
I fully accept believed in this 

804
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,000
insane thing and history books 
will show the death tolls from 

805
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,200
from them believing in it to me.
We are just about to see the 

806
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,800
beginning of real Humanity 
because this Is a combination of

807
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,400
sort of intellectual laziness 
and cowardice along with 

808
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,500
intentional brainwashing and 
manipulation and propaganda from

809
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:41,200
like, literally sociopaths and 
control freaks, who have indeed 

810
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,600
duped. 
Most of the people throughout 

811
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,500
most of the world into thinking 
that they need to be ruled by 

812
00:45:46,508 --> 00:45:49,200
somebody else. 
Basically, they need to be owned

813
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,500
by a wise master, who will take 
care of them. 

814
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:54,900
The fact that we have believed 
something stupid for a very long

815
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:58,800
time, is not a reason, we should
keep Being something stupid and 

816
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600
the fact that evil things have 
been happening for a very long 

817
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,000
time, like slavery is not a 
reason, we should keep doing 

818
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,500
evil things. 
And when somebody falls back on 

819
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:10,000
the argument of, well, this is 
how it's been forever. 

820
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,100
It shows me. 
They are literally just clinging

821
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:17,300
to what is familiar instead of 
thinking at all about logic or 

822
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:19,500
morality or anything of the 
sort. 

823
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,100
So, if somebody wants to 
predict, well, there's going to 

824
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:25,400
be government forever. 
Okay, you can predict that if 

825
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,200
you are advocating, Violet and 
moral aggression, which you are,

826
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,500
if you believe in government 
don't use the excuse of, oh, 

827
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:36,300
well, it's always been around 
any more than, you know, a 

828
00:46:36,300 --> 00:46:38,600
murderer can say, oh, you might 
not like murder, but I mean, 

829
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,500
murders always been around, so 
it's okay. 

830
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:44,100
If I do know it is, if you 
predict it, it's that one thing.

831
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:48,000
If you, that's one thing, if you
condone it, you are an accessory

832
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,800
to evil, Mark governments have 
always existed throughout 

833
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,200
history. 
They exist everywhere. 

834
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Now, how do you respond? 
Well, of course, because people 

835
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,900
have generally, since the dawn 
of human civilization of fallen 

836
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:06,700
for the mind control that 
Authority is somehow morally 

837
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:11,400
legitimate as anarchists. 
We understand that Authority is 

838
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,000
a morally illegitimate position.
The belief in Authority can 

839
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,200
never be moral because what you 
are saying is that there is a 

840
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,900
set of people, a class of 
individuals that actually have 

841
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:28,300
some sort of a quote morale. 
Right, to issue commands to 

842
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:32,200
other people, you know, and 
that's basically rulership to 

843
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,600
all government is in ever has 
been is a euphemism for godhood 

844
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,900
kingship. 
See, we used to put this idea of

845
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,300
the, the vesting of authority in
one individual and they were 

846
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:48,800
called the Pharaoh, the king, 
the ruler. 

847
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,200
Okay, and, you know, now we've 
just diffused, that concept of 

848
00:47:54,207 --> 00:47:56,700
authority into a group of 
people. 

849
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,900
With an oligarchical class of 
people that we call government, 

850
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,200
you know, it's no different. 
It's before it was the king or 

851
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,900
the Pharaoh or the ruler was the
representation of God on Earth 

852
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,800
and can command the people to 
do, whatever he commands them to

853
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,100
do. 
And they must obey, which is 

854
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,000
called slavery. 
Okay. 

855
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,400
All we've done in the modern 
world today, to justify the the 

856
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,700
quote unquote, moral existence 
of government, which there's 

857
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:27,900
nothing moral and whatsoever to 
do with It's completely in a 

858
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:29,700
moral position to even believe 
in. 

859
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:35,600
Okay, is we've taken that. 
And through, we've done a 

860
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,600
process of osmosis. 
We've diffused, this concept of 

861
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,400
authority instead of investing 
it in one individual. 

862
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:46,100
We've diffused it into thousands
of individuals throughout 

863
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,800
society that we call government 
or the authorities and it's 

864
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,900
always been a cult. 
It's always been violent. 

865
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,700
It's always been immoral at any 
other. 

866
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Other time in human history, it 
still is today and it always 

867
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,900
will be for as long as people 
believe in it. 

868
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:06,000
It's simply an immoral violent 
cult. 

869
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:10,200
And that is the spiritual 
awakening that actually needs to

870
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,500
happen in humanity. 
That that is what government is 

871
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:18,800
always has been and always will 
be until we become truly moral 

872
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,400
individuals and truly 
responsible individuals and 

873
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,400
abolish this form of slavery. 
Yeah, and of course, it's a 

874
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,800
violent cult. 
I mean, just imagine I would 

875
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,800
just love to have a hidden 
camera and tell my parents about

876
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,400
a fake group. 
I joined and then just described

877
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,500
government. 
I'm like, yeah, you know what, 

878
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:41,800
we force parents to have their 
kids attend his sermons and the 

879
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,100
parents work. 
We threaten to take their houses

880
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:49,000
away if they don't chip in for 
our group and we have to blindly

881
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,700
obey, whatever he says, and 
tells us to do they'd be like, 

882
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:55,200
oh my God, this is terrible. 
Expose this man. 

883
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:59,400
And what that is openly, what 
governments do all the time. 

884
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Now, as far as naming names, who
was in power, we have people 

885
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,400
like, Bush senior, David 
Rockefellers, a big new 

886
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,000
Burzynski, John McCain. 
They've died this year and 

887
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,300
government. 
Somehow hasn't shrunk which 

888
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:13,600
tells me that the problem is not
the rollers. 

889
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,100
It is the mind of those who 
believe in the illegitimacy of 

890
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:21,200
government Larkin. 
How do we help people escape 

891
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,300
mind control and the belief in 
government? 

892
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:28,700
Well, it's funny because that 
question pretty much Define my 

893
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:30,600
life. 
For the past quarter of a 

894
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,400
century is how to help people 
get out of the belief in 

895
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,700
government. 
I think it's important to note 

896
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:40,200
and I am and, and I teach a 
course called candles in the 

897
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,700
dark, which shows how to do 
this, very gently, and 

898
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:45,600
non-confrontational E. 
I also do it very 

899
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,400
confrontational, e settings, 
and, you know, outright 

900
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,200
knock-down-drag-out debates, but
what's really important to note 

901
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,500
is that Are not inherently 
statist and we have to make them

902
00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:01,000
into something else. 
People are inherently voluntary,

903
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,600
assists or anarchists. 
And on top of that, there is 

904
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,300
this layer of indoctrination 
that is, convince them that we 

905
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:10,300
need a ruling class and it's 
legitimate. 

906
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:12,200
We have to obey, and you gotta 
go Tiana. 

907
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,500
And so, it really is a matter of
freeing the person underneath 

908
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:20,300
rather than making them into 
something else. 

909
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:23,100
We don't, we don't even have to 
teach them much that they don't 

910
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,000
already know. 
To get them to see that they're 

911
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,200
indoctrinated in belief to 
Authority. 

912
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,700
It goes against their 
conscience. 

913
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:35,900
It goes against what they know 
to be true about right and 

914
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:37,100
wrong. 
And there are a bunch of 

915
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:40,300
different ways to try to help 
people see that and to try to 

916
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:42,600
free them from it. 
But the reason I have so much 

917
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,400
hope is this isn't a matter of 
there's a bunch of evil people. 

918
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,900
We have to talk them into being 
good. 

919
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:51,400
There are a bunch of deceived 
people and we need to help them 

920
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,100
escape the deception and that's 
it. 

921
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:55,400
And then You just let them be 
free. 

922
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,900
Like the goal isn't now. 
I'm your master. 

923
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:59,400
Now. 
You will believe what I say and 

924
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,200
do as I say, the goal is to free
them from other people's 

925
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,600
propaganda and literally mind 
control. 

926
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:08,300
Exactly. 
It's not enough to say, well, 

927
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:11,100
the government has the power 
because they have military and 

928
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,300
Dunn's. 
Well, you have to explain why 

929
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:17,500
the military takes orders from 
them and not that group or me. 

930
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,800
I've been calling Doug Ducey, 
but you know, countless times 

931
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,500
telling him to obey me and do 
what I say, but he only listens 

932
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,200
to Trump. 
Well, obviously because in his 

933
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,700
mind one is legitimate and the 
other is just some peasant. 

934
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,500
Mark. 
Passio. 

935
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:32,300
How do we help people escape 
mind control? 

936
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,300
Well, I think you have to really
meticulously and in a stepwise 

937
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:42,000
progression point out the 
logical inconsistencies in their

938
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,600
thinking. 
People think they're advocating 

939
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,200
for a moral position because 
that's all the government does 

940
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,600
is obvious, Kate. 
It's behaviors through 

941
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,400
euphemisms and false. 
Equivalencies and tells people 

942
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,200
that it's actually, you know, 
operating the way that it does 

943
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,800
for moral reasons, which is 
never actually true. 

944
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:03,200
So what one of the processes 
that I do is like a Socratic 

945
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,600
method and basically, say, you 
consider yourself a moral. 

946
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:10,700
Do you consider yourself a moral
individual, you know? 

947
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:16,700
And you know, and explain what 
you think should be done 

948
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:19,500
regarding Taxation and then the 
person might say well I think 

949
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:22,200
you know, the rich should be 
taxed this much, you know people

950
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,700
who don't make this much should 
be taxed as much an animal say, 

951
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:27,700
okay. 
Do you think you yourself have 

952
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:32,200
the ability to go and forcibly 
confiscate any percentage of 

953
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,200
wealth? 
From anyone or resources, from 

954
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,600
anyone that you think, could you
break down their door? 

955
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,700
Go into their home, confiscate 
wealth, confiscate money Etc. 

956
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:42,400
Do you have that, right? 
Nah, they'll always admit. 

957
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,300
No, I don't, why? 
Because you're a moral person. 

958
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,800
You don't believe in committing 
violence, or aggression, or 

959
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,500
theft against your fellow, you 
know, human beings. 

960
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:55,500
And those say, yes, that's true.
Okay, and then, when you explain

961
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:58,200
will, do you think if you don't 
have that right? 

962
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,300
That you could tell your next 
door neighbor to go and do that,

963
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,700
you know, could you? 
And them to do that. 

964
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,300
Or give them the right to do 
that. 

965
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:09,100
No, so then you take it out to 
another next logical. 

966
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,700
Step wise progression. 
Will please tell me who does 

967
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,400
have that right to go in and 
break down their door and 

968
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,800
confiscate whatever wealth you 
see fit to Drew distribute it as

969
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,400
you see fit. 
And the, if they're being honest

970
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,800
with themselves from a moral 
point of view, they will admit 

971
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,300
no one on earth has that right 
as an individual. 

972
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:29,900
And then if that you continue 
the logical progression, well, 

973
00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:32,500
then if no one on earth has the 
right to perform. 

974
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:36,200
That behavior because it is 
inherently violent and immoral. 

975
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,500
How could anyone who does not 
possess that right? 

976
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:44,300
Come together and claim that 
they are magically gifting or 

977
00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:47,300
granting that quote unquote, 
right, which is actually an 

978
00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:51,100
immoral wrongdoing to any other 
individual or group of 

979
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,600
individuals. 
And I've done this many times 

980
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,500
with many people and if they're 
being honest with themselves, if

981
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,400
they're not lying directly to 
themselves or looking you in the

982
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,500
face and just blatantly lying 
about what is true. 

983
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,500
Okay, and about how they feel 
that they are a moral 

984
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,200
individual. 
They will acknowledge that that 

985
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,000
cannot be done in actual point 
of fact, natural reality. 

986
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:16,600
You can only make the claim or 
you can only believe that that 

987
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,000
can be done and that's all 
government is. 

988
00:55:19,300 --> 00:55:23,700
It's a false immoral, belief 
system, which constitutes a 

989
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:27,400
religious cult and it's slavery,
that's it. 

990
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,100
And if you really get down to 
explaining it in a stepwise 

991
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:37,000
moral, And keep consistently 
appealing to the individual 

992
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,200
morality of the human being. 
They will have no choice. 

993
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,700
But to admit that, what they are
actually advocating for his 

994
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:46,800
violent behavior, and I've done 
this to a few people. 

995
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,600
And when they finally said, yes,
I have to admit, that's really 

996
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,100
what it is in actual nature and 
actual Behavior. 

997
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,600
I said, well, congratulations, 
you actually understand. 

998
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,600
Now the philosophical position 
of the anarchist who advocates 

999
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:03,600
for for no violent. 
Either in society for only 

1000
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,700
voluntary behavior in society, 
that is consensual mutually 

1001
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:11,800
consensual and many people have 
actually thanked me for doing 

1002
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,000
that. 
And many people have walked away

1003
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,100
with the, you know, kind of, you
know, a little bit of hard 

1004
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:21,400
feelings because they got their 
ego damaged a little bit as a 

1005
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,900
result of the exchange. 
But either way, you've planted a

1006
00:56:23,908 --> 00:56:26,900
seed that cannot be unplanted. 
Exactly. 

1007
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,100
Yeah, II. 
See anarchism not only as 

1008
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:32,500
freedom, but also, genuine 
equality, equality. 

1009
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,900
Your natural law. 
If I don't have the right to do 

1010
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:36,300
it. 
I don't have the right to Grant 

1011
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:39,200
it to someone else and I am 
equal to them. 

1012
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,100
That's why they don't have the 
right to initiate aggression 

1013
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:43,000
against me. 
And I don't have the right to 

1014
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,800
initiate it against them. 
That's that's how we know that 

1015
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,800
volunteerism is natural log 
because it's the only philosophy

1016
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,400
that could be consistently 
argued without appealing to 

1017
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,700
anything arbitrary. 
Few more questions for you. 

1018
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:57,100
Gentlemen, I appreciate your 
time here lorcan. 

1019
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:00,100
How do we discern right? 
Behavior from wrong Behavior. 

1020
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Moral from immoral? 
This is something that I don't 

1021
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,300
usually talk about in depth in 
public because most people on 

1022
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:12,700
most things, have a whole lot of
agreement on all the major 

1023
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:15,700
things that matter. 
Like, if I asked somebody, is it

1024
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:18,100
okay to beat up your neighbor 
and take your stuff. 

1025
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:22,600
Everybody says, no, that tells 
me that something inside them. 

1026
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,100
However, it works their 
conscience there, you know, 

1027
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,200
moral judgment already knows 
enough. 

1028
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:32,500
That peaceful coexistence is 
perfectly easy between me. 

1029
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,000
Them if they don't believe in 
government. 

1030
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,300
And so I think the sort of the 
Quest for what are we supposed 

1031
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:41,900
to do? 
There are gray areas that we can

1032
00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:44,800
still debate about and I debate 
a bunch of voluntary. 

1033
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,200
It's about them but when it 
comes to the main huge things of

1034
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,100
is it okay to attack somebody 
else and take their stuff? 

1035
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,300
Most people already 
instinctively and internally. 

1036
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:56,000
No, that's not. 
Okay. 

1037
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,800
And that's true of Christians. 
It's true of Jews is true of 

1038
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,800
atheists. 
It's true. 

1039
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,400
Muslim is true of people all 
over the plate is true. 

1040
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:05,800
Were people all over the world 
who, you know, never even heard 

1041
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,200
of this religions, who live off 
in the middle of nowhere. 

1042
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:12,600
They have still, you know, they 
have that built-in sense that 

1043
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,000
we're not supposed to be killing
and robbing each other and just 

1044
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,200
that all by itself. 
Even if people didn't like sit 

1045
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,100
around the having deep 
philosophical conversations, 

1046
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,400
just that Basic Instinct of 
right and wrong is enough to 

1047
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,400
make the world a thousand times 
better than it is if The belief 

1048
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,100
in Authority goes away. 
Then we can bicker about gray 

1049
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,200
areas and where you draw this 
line, where you draw that line, 

1050
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:42,500
but when it comes to the basics 
of being a moral human being 

1051
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:46,900
almost, everybody has enough 
already built into the hardwired

1052
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:50,700
into them, that I don't even 
feel the need to bring up those 

1053
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:54,000
discussions to most people 
because if not for their belief,

1054
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,700
in government, we would get 
along. 

1055
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:57,700
Just fine. 
Mark. 

1056
00:58:57,700 --> 00:59:00,600
How do we discern right? 
Behavior from wrong Behavior, 

1057
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:04,200
moral from immortal? 
I think this is probably the 

1058
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,100
real Crux of the argument 
because what we're talking about

1059
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:10,000
here and have been talking about
from the very Inception is 

1060
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,900
morality. 
Anarchism is about the 

1061
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:18,900
understanding of objective 
morality ultimately and it's 

1062
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,600
very important to get it. 
Right? 

1063
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,100
And this is where, you know, we 
use the word right to mean 

1064
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:26,300
correct, but it also means moral
because they're ultimately the 

1065
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:29,300
same thing that which is true 
and correct is going to lead us 

1066
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:31,700
to that, which is moral. 
So it's very important to be 

1067
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:33,800
correct. 
To be right about it. 

1068
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:38,000
Okay, so you have to start with 
a definition of what a right is 

1069
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,000
and most people can't do that. 
Most people cannot accurately 

1070
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,900
correctly. 
Give the definition of the 

1071
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:45,600
human, right? 
And that's why we're losing our 

1072
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,500
rights. 
Because if you can't properly 

1073
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:50,300
Define something, you don't 
really understand what it is. 

1074
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:53,500
So you'll never understand that.
It's actually being taken away 

1075
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,700
or you're losing it a right is a
behavior. 

1076
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,900
It is an action that a human 
being can perform that does not 

1077
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:04,500
initiate harm to Another 
sentient being that means it 

1078
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,300
doesn't aggress upon them 
violently. 

1079
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:09,600
It doesn't coerce their rights. 
It doesn't coercer restrain 

1080
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,400
their freedom if they have not 
harmed, another, okay, and it 

1081
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,400
doesn't harm their property. 
Okay, so you don't engage in 

1082
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:23,400
behaviors which caused harm, 
which ultimately all the forms 

1083
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,100
of behaviors that cause harm our
forms of theft. 

1084
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:31,100
We have to understand property 
versus theft. 

1085
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:34,300
That's the ultimate. 
Real question when it comes to 

1086
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:39,000
the very Crux and bottom line 
aspect of the moral nature of 

1087
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,100
this argument, okay? 
Of this philosophy, all the 

1088
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:46,900
behaviors that are actual 
wrongdoings that we could ever 

1089
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:50,500
commit against any other 
sentient beings are actually 

1090
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:56,500
forms of theft. 
So murder is theft of life that 

1091
01:00:56,500 --> 01:01:01,100
if the person was not engaged in
behavior, that was causing harm 

1092
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:03,800
to others and possibly put 
Putting their lives in danger 

1093
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,500
through violence, then you don't
have the right to take someone's

1094
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,700
life because their life was 
their property. 

1095
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:14,700
So murder is the immoral taking 
of the property of another in 

1096
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:19,100
the form of their life. 
Coach murder assault. 

1097
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,600
Assault is the taking of bodily 
well-being, without right? 

1098
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:27,300
So that's theft. 
Rape is the theft of Free Will 

1099
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:29,900
sexual Association without, 
right? 

1100
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,500
Yeah. 
There's never a right to do 

1101
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:33,700
that. 
That's Laughter, you're taking 

1102
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:37,600
someone's Free Will and freedom 
of Association when they don't 

1103
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000
want to do that. 
So no coercion. 

1104
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,200
You're taking someone's Free 
Will away. 

1105
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,900
You're actually taking their 
freedom away through coercion. 

1106
01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:50,700
Hey trespass, you're taking 
Security in their living space 

1107
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:52,800
in there. 
In there, you know, domain in 

1108
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,200
which they live and operate away
and lying is taking away. 

1109
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,400
The the necessary information 
that they need to make informed 

1110
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,700
decisions. 
So every immoral Behavior is a 

1111
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:07,500
form of theft. 
It's a really if you really want

1112
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,800
to get down to the very Crux of 
the moral argument that 

1113
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,700
underlies, all of it. 
It's, you have to understand 

1114
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,200
that which is not your property 
and don't take it through 

1115
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,000
violence. 
That's it. 

1116
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,300
Every form of wrongdoing is 
someone committing the theft of 

1117
01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:28,400
someone else's property, whether
they're taking physical things 

1118
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,400
that don't belong to them, 
whether they're taking rights 

1119
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,100
that, don't belong to them. 
Whether they're taking Freedom, 

1120
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:37,000
that doesn't belong to them, 
whether they're taking life. 

1121
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,900
That doesn't belong to them. 
All forms of immoral behavior is

1122
01:02:41,900 --> 01:02:47,900
ultimately theft so we can sum 
up all moral behavior and 

1123
01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:51,400
ultimately Anarchy in one in one
simple. 

1124
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,000
Simple statement. 
Don't steal. 

1125
01:02:57,300 --> 01:03:00,600
That's what all of the, 
ultimately, all of the moral 

1126
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,700
argument comes down to do. 
Don't commit theft because if 

1127
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:06,700
you're not committing theft of 
things that do not belong to 

1128
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:08,300
you. 
You're ultimately not doing 

1129
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,700
immoral behaviors. 
And that's what we have to take 

1130
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:14,300
it down to as an individual. 
Look at the behavior, and look 

1131
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:17,600
at, was property taken as a 
result of this behavior. 

1132
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,300
And if it was, don't do that 
thing. 

1133
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,900
That's a bad wrong and immoral 
thing to do. 

1134
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,100
It's so simple yet. 
People have had the definitions 

1135
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,000
of what is right. 
And what is good and what is 

1136
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,200
moral obvious? 
Hated. 

1137
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,200
That's how evil works. 
It knows that people want to 

1138
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,600
generally be good in those that 
they want to be moral, but it 

1139
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,100
obfuscates the definition. 
So people can ultimately come to

1140
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:47,100
the correct conclusions of what 
true morality true objective, 

1141
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:51,000
morality really means and that's
how mind control works. 

1142
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,700
That's how mind manipulation 
works and that's ultimately what

1143
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:57,700
government is always seeking to 
do to confuse true morality, 

1144
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,800
replace it with morally, 
subjective standards and get 

1145
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,000
people come. 
Completely confused about what 

1146
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,600
the true difference between 
moral right and immoral wrong. 

1147
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:12,100
Ultimately is and it's been very
very successful at doing that 

1148
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:14,700
and that's why anarchists and 
voluntary is have to come 

1149
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:18,600
together and get on the same 
page about an understanding of 

1150
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,500
Human Rights and human morals. 
And then really go out and teach

1151
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:24,500
that to other people then we'll 
be making some true Headway 

1152
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:27,900
Larkin. 
Mark says, truth. 

1153
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:31,100
Is that which is making it 
objective Mark? 

1154
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,300
And how do we determine truth? 
From falsehood. 

1155
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,100
Well, basically like in any 
context, whether you're talking 

1156
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:42,900
about morality or science or 
anything else, the individual is

1157
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:46,500
ultimately the one who has to 
make those decisions and to make

1158
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:49,800
a decision that isn't just 
arbitrary and stupid, you have 

1159
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,600
to observe and learn and and and
bring in all the information and

1160
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,700
understanding you can. 
Now the particular challenge 

1161
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:02,100
when it comes to morality is 
can't measure it with a tape 

1162
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:04,300
measure and weigh it with a 
scale. 

1163
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,400
You Have to use your built-in 
conscience that is hardwired 

1164
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,400
into you. 
And, and a lot of people do this

1165
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,400
and they have all sorts of 
discussions and they read this 

1166
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,400
book, and they learn about this 
and that and the other thing. 

1167
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,300
So, learning factual physical 
truth about something. 

1168
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,600
It's a lot more straightforward 
of go gather, direct evidence 

1169
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,700
and figure out what's going on 
learning. 

1170
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:32,700
Morality is a lot more about 
turning inward because you have 

1171
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:35,800
built into you the ability to To
sense, right? 

1172
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,800
And wrong. 
You don't need to defer to some 

1173
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,300
external Authority because if 
you're doing that you're just 

1174
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:43,400
flipping a coin. 
If you're going to say well, I'm

1175
01:05:43,408 --> 01:05:45,500
going to let that guy. 
Tell me what's right. 

1176
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:49,100
And what's wrong. 
Well 50/50 chance will be a 

1177
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:52,900
psycho. 
And so it's it's something that 

1178
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:57,300
requires internal reflection and
requires looking your own 

1179
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:02,200
conscience, which as it happens 
is precisely what Authority 

1180
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,400
tells you not to do. 
Don't I own your own conscience.

1181
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,000
Don't rely on your own thoughts 
and feelings about how we should

1182
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,500
behave and what should be going 
on. 

1183
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:16,300
Just defer to those of us in 
power and let us tell you what 

1184
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:19,100
you should and shouldn't do will
tell you what's legal. 

1185
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:22,200
And then you'll get confused 
between legal and moral and 

1186
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,800
start to think that what makes 
you a good person is blindly 

1187
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,200
obeying us and that is the 
complete opposite from the 

1188
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,000
truth. 
And a thing. 

1189
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,300
I really want to throw in is 
that when I talk to some average

1190
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:36,500
person who says, Well, I think 
we might need government for 

1191
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:39,100
this and they have right left. 
I don't care wherever they are 

1192
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:43,100
on the Spectrum. 
I say, I don't even know you. 

1193
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:48,800
I've never met you before and I 
would much, rather your actions 

1194
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,900
be based upon your own 
conscience. 

1195
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:56,800
Even if that means ignoring the 
dictates of any political ruling

1196
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,600
class. 
Now, how weird would it be for 

1197
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,500
me, to trust your conscience 
more than you do when I've never

1198
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:08,300
even You met you before. 
But that is the case with a lot 

1199
01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:12,300
of people I talk to and it puts 
them in a position of literally 

1200
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:15,300
either saying, okay. 
Well, I appreciate it and thanks

1201
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,000
for arguing in favor of them 
ignoring their own conscience, 

1202
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,900
which is literally insane. 
But I like to do that. 

1203
01:07:21,900 --> 01:07:24,300
To point out. 
I would rather everybody use 

1204
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:28,100
their own conscience as flawed 
and imperfect as it maybe 

1205
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,800
instead of deferring to some 
imaginary external Authority 

1206
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,800
because the vast majority of 
evil and Injustice. 

1207
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:38,400
That that has happened in the 
world was not the result of 

1208
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,600
individual malice. 
It was the result of obedience 

1209
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,700
and compliance with imaginary 
authorities. 

1210
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,600
Of course, in the most evil 
people in the world are, you 

1211
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,600
know, sucked in like a bat 
signal to the state because 

1212
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,200
that's where they can commit 
their atrocities without being 

1213
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,400
held accountable. 
I mean, just imagine how many 

1214
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,900
deaths now and Kissinger would 
have on their hands. 

1215
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:01,600
If no one believed in their 
legitimate Authority. 

1216
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:03,800
Mark. 
Passio you said, truth. 

1217
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,000
Is that which is Mark, how do we
determine truth from falsehood? 

1218
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:13,100
Well, as Larkin said it starts 
with observation and that is the

1219
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:16,300
scientific methodology. 
So my ultimate answer is you 

1220
01:08:16,300 --> 01:08:20,000
apply the same investigative 
tools that we have through the 

1221
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,899
scientific method. 
You observe you formulate 

1222
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:28,200
hypotheses based on that 
observation, then you do testing

1223
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,600
to see if it actually works that
way and then you refine it and 

1224
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,899
you then publish your results, 
you know, it's no different than

1225
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,500
The actual scientific method 
because what we are saying here 

1226
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:41,800
is not a religious belief. 
It is not a belief system at 

1227
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,000
all. 
It is. 

1228
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:47,200
What is actually operating in 
nature, you know, so there are 

1229
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,600
truth, discovering methods that 
we already have at our disposal 

1230
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:53,000
in the modern day. 
We call this the scientific 

1231
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,800
method in the ancient world in 
an esoteric systems of thought 

1232
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,300
they referred to this as the 
Trivium method. 

1233
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:03,899
The Trivium method was a first 
down taking in all of the data 

1234
01:09:03,899 --> 01:09:07,500
input that you Fire. 
So that was the input phase. 

1235
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:11,800
That was the knowledge phase. 
I'm sorry, the grammar phase. 

1236
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:17,200
Okay, then you had you went to 
grammar, then logic. 

1237
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,300
So this is the, you know, 
boiling it all down. 

1238
01:09:20,300 --> 01:09:22,800
This is taking in all the 
different perspectives and 

1239
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,300
weeding out logical 
inconsistencies. 

1240
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,600
Okay. 
This is the refinement stage. 

1241
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,700
Now is called logic. 
This is the processing stage. 

1242
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:34,300
If you want to look at it in 
modern terms, and then we have 

1243
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:36,300
the output. 
You know, this was rhetoric in 

1244
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,700
the ancient Trivium and you 
know, this is actually putting 

1245
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:42,399
out, you're finding some other 
people when you understand how 

1246
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:44,200
it works. 
It's knowledge, understanding 

1247
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,500
and wisdom, you know, knowledge 
is gaining all of the different 

1248
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:50,100
seemingly disparate parts of 
information. 

1249
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,500
Okay, then understandings, 
putting them all together and 

1250
01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:56,500
processing them correctly. 
So that, you know what it means,

1251
01:09:56,900 --> 01:09:58,800
and then wisdom is what you do 
with it. 

1252
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:02,000
It's going out into the world. 
It's explaining it, and then 

1253
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,800
it's behaving rightly upon all 
of that. 

1254
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:08,800
Understanding that you've 
garnered in the last two stages.

1255
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:12,700
So it's a stepwise progression. 
Once again, it's a stepwise 

1256
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:17,100
logical, logical progression and
it is a scientific methodology. 

1257
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:20,100
Does not require any belief. 
We are not asking anyone to 

1258
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:23,400
believe that this is true. 
We are asking people to 

1259
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,500
investigate it. 
And again, when it comes to 

1260
01:10:25,508 --> 01:10:28,200
things like natural law, 
objective morality, these are 

1261
01:10:28,208 --> 01:10:29,800
things that just exists in 
nature. 

1262
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,300
It is not up to us to invent 
that make them up. 

1263
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,900
It is for us to come to the 
accurate understanding. 

1264
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,200
Understanding of that, which 
already exists and the tools for

1265
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,000
doing that already exist. 
We just have to use them wisely 

1266
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:46,800
and correctly Larkin. 
What is the most important thing

1267
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,700
you've learned from talking to 
status? 

1268
01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:54,400
For 20 years. 
You say, 23 going on 24. 

1269
01:10:55,400 --> 01:11:00,000
Thank you for your service. 
I have I have accidentally 

1270
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,500
learned a whole bunch about 
psychology and how tightly 

1271
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:07,300
people cling to. 
A comfortable, but false idea. 

1272
01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:09,600
Something they've been taught to
believe in something that has 

1273
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,500
been, you know, stuck in their 
brain for decades and how 

1274
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:17,600
uncomfortable and it is for them
to question that and how many 

1275
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,600
very weird things. 
The human mind does to cling to 

1276
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,300
what is that? 
Whatever is familiar and already

1277
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:27,900
believe even in the face of 
evidence and logic that just 

1278
01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:32,900
demolish it and so to me, 99% of
the battle is not even 

1279
01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:36,200
explaining these Concepts 
because as Just heard from both 

1280
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,900
of us. 
The pretty dang simple and 

1281
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:39,700
basic. 
Like, don't attack people laugh.

1282
01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:43,100
How hard is it to teach that? 
The reason it takes so much 

1283
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:46,300
effort is because people were 
indoctrinated into a different 

1284
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,300
belief that that teaches that 
there needs to be a ruling class

1285
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:53,100
and that that's legitimate and 
human psychology does. 

1286
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:57,800
So many weird gymnastics in 
order to avoid questioning, 

1287
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,000
whatever somebody already 
believes and so that for me is 

1288
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,800
the entire Challenge. 
And that's what it's what my 

1289
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:05,200
project. 
Checked. 

1290
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,500
The mirror is about its what our
seminar kennels in the dark is 

1291
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:11,400
about. 
It's about learning to get 

1292
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,400
through all the, the Minefield 
of human psychology to the point

1293
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,700
where you can actually connect 
with the person not to make them

1294
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,300
defer to you, instead of defer 
to Authority. 

1295
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,600
But to make them defer to 
nobody, to let them actually, 

1296
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,500
accept and embrace their own 
self ownership and their own 

1297
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:36,600
individual responsibility. 
Including the The to determine 

1298
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:40,500
right and wrong for themselves 
and to act accordingly. 

1299
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,500
But yes, there are a lot of 
psychological obstacles to try 

1300
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:46,900
to get the average person to do 
that because they have been 

1301
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:52,300
trained to believe that it is 
genuinely criminal and bad. 

1302
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,900
To be a grown-up who makes their
own decision. 

1303
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:57,100
Oh, you think you're above the 
law? 

1304
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:00,400
Yes, we're all Above the Law. 
Stupid politicians. 

1305
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,000
Scribbles are beneath every 
single one of us, our 

1306
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,800
conscience. 
In any given individual. 

1307
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:09,700
That is all you have, you have 
your senses, you have your 

1308
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:13,200
conscience. 
It is up to you to figure out 

1309
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,300
true and false, right? 
And wrong and act accordingly. 

1310
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:19,100
And there's a lot of resistance 
to that because that's 

1311
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:21,400
uncomfortable, responsibilities 
uncomfortable. 

1312
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,000
But I am thrilled seeing the 
head way. 

1313
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,800
That's, that's been happening. 
Just in recent years of the 

1314
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,400
number of people who have, you 
know, coming from a bunch of 

1315
01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:34,800
different directions. 
Crashed into the obvious truism 

1316
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,700
that At the end of the day, I 
have to decide what I believe 

1317
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:41,900
and I have to decide what I what
I think is true and what I'm 

1318
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:46,100
going to do about it, and I 
can't defer that to anybody else

1319
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:50,100
and that unfortunately is very 
hard to get people to embrace. 

1320
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:55,300
But when they do, then they 
become actual free human beings.

1321
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,900
And Marquis will gave your 
answer earlier with regard to 

1322
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:03,800
how you use the Socratic method.
I'm curious Mark when you were 

1323
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,600
on Infowars. 
You said some of the most 

1324
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,700
important information you've 
ever come across was regarding 

1325
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:13,300
Nikola Tesla energy suppression.
What is the most important info?

1326
01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:16,200
You've come across researching, 
Nikola Tesla's, energy 

1327
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,100
suppression. 
I would say it's the simple 

1328
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:22,700
concept that the control of 
energy is the control of human 

1329
01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:26,600
beings, you know, and this is 
one of the ways that the ruling 

1330
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,100
class control people, they 
control resources. 

1331
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:32,900
They control energy, they 
control food medication, Etc. 

1332
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,000
Things that people are you know,
require for physical survival. 

1333
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:41,800
If certain select group on 
oligarchical group of human 

1334
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,600
beings, can ultimately control 
those resources. 

1335
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,300
You can hold people in a state 
of fear. 

1336
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,500
A fear of lack of fear of not 
having a fear of, you know, 

1337
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:55,400
being in a state of survival, 
you know, and that is one of the

1338
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,800
big methods that the ruling 
class used to hold people under 

1339
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,300
their control. 
Fear leads to cowardice and 

1340
01:15:04,300 --> 01:15:06,600
inaction. 
And that's ultimately what they 

1341
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,100
want. 
As Larkin said, they don't want 

1342
01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:10,000
people taking personal 
responsibility. 

1343
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,800
They don't want, people 
learning. 

1344
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:14,100
You know, how true science 
Works. 

1345
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:16,300
They don't want people learning 
how to grow their own food. 

1346
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:18,600
They don't want people learning 
how to To defend themselves. 

1347
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:22,000
They want dependency. 
This is the biggest tool of 

1348
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,000
government is dependency. 
And, you know, one of the things

1349
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,600
I learned by dealing, with 
people who are stuck on 

1350
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,400
believing that, that form of 
dependency is necessary in the 

1351
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,600
government is necessary, is the 
programmability of the human 

1352
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,100
mind and the power of the ego. 
That's what it all led me to a 

1353
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,700
very deep understanding of. 
And this is also, of course, as 

1354
01:15:41,700 --> 01:15:45,400
Larkin said, psychological 
understanding, this is all about

1355
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,900
the understanding of the human 
mind because See these 

1356
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:50,100
manipulators. 
They know us better than we know

1357
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,500
ourselves. 
Unfortunately, as a species, 

1358
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:56,300
they know everything. 
That's what a cult manipulation 

1359
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:59,100
is all about. 
Its ancient psychology, you 

1360
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:01,800
know, they understand all the 
hidden workings of the human 

1361
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,200
mind of the human psyche and 
they know how to exploit those 

1362
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,500
workings. 
They know how to basically get 

1363
01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:10,400
inside that Clockwork and 
exploit it to their ends. 

1364
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:15,800
And if we learn how our minds 
work, how our psyches work to 

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,000
the level, that they And it, 
that will level that playing 

1366
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,800
field of knowledge and they will
not be able to manipulate us and

1367
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,500
manipulate Us in those ways. 
Unfortunately, most people 

1368
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:27,500
haven't gone that deep into 
psychological knowledge. 

1369
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:30,300
Unfortunately, we have to 
understand the human mind is 

1370
01:16:30,300 --> 01:16:32,900
very programmable. 
Garbage goes in garbage. 

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01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:37,100
Comes out, you know, and you 
know, if good programming goes 

1372
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:40,900
in and the form of understanding
how to think, understanding how 

1373
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:44,000
to come to correct conclusions 
critical thinking and then we're

1374
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,800
going to have good output in the
form of behavior because we're 

1375
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,000
going to come to Right, 
conclusions about morality and 

1376
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,200
then we're going to behave 
accordingly, you know, 

1377
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,400
conversely, if bad programming 
goes in garbage, belief systems 

1378
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,700
that are rooted in violence and 
coercion and Advocate slavery, 

1379
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:03,700
you know, then we're going to be
totally confused about what's 

1380
01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:06,400
going on both within ourselves. 
And in our world, we're going to

1381
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:10,100
accept all kinds of euphemisms 
for things that we should never 

1382
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:13,100
accept, you know, like, you 
know, that the government isn't 

1383
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:16,600
violence in slavery and, you 
know, then we're going to our 

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01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,400
output in the form. 
I'm of our behavior is just 

1385
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,400
going to reinforce those 
incorrect beliefs and we're 

1386
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,900
going to get as a society 
negative consequences. 

1387
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:27,300
This is how natural law 
ultimately works. 

1388
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:31,100
If we put quality in, we come to
the correct conclusions and 

1389
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:34,300
therefore come to the exercise, 
correct Behavior. 

1390
01:17:34,300 --> 01:17:38,700
We're going to get an orderly 
outcome and a an outcome that 

1391
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:42,000
does not generate self inflicted
suffering in our world and in 

1392
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,400
our lives and conversely. 
If we put garbage programming 

1393
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,200
into ourselves, and then we 
We're completely confused about 

1394
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,100
what's true and good and right? 
And then our behavior is 

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01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,600
immoral. 
We're going to get very painful 

1396
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,600
and high levels of suffering, as
an experienced, in our rate, in 

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,300
our shared reality here on 
Earth. 

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01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:05,000
Final question to both of you, 
starting with Larkin, say you 

1399
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,400
are, maybe just at a grocery 
store and you see, Joe, Biden 

1400
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,200
claims nomination and someone 
says, that's crazy. 

1401
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,200
What is your take on politics? 
What is your 30 second? 

1402
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,100
Elevator pitch introduction to 
someone kind of interested, but 

1403
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:23,800
not really into the 
philosophical Larkin. 

1404
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:29,200
What would you say to that 
person in short, the, the entire

1405
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,400
game? 
I don't believe the entire game.

1406
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:34,400
I don't want anyone to have the 
right to rule you and I have no 

1407
01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:37,900
right to appoint, somebody to 
rule you and I certainly don't 

1408
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:41,500
want anybody to rule me. 
They play this game and we pay 

1409
01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:43,600
attention to me. 
Choose between the lesser of two

1410
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,900
evils. 
I'm looking forward to a day 

1411
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:48,800
when we stop playing the game. 
Stop falling for their lives and

1412
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,500
we just run our own lives Mark. 
Passio. 

1413
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:55,400
How would you respond? 
I actually have responded to 

1414
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,300
some people that have come up 
and ask me what my politics are.

1415
01:18:58,300 --> 01:19:02,400
And I say politics is an 
illusion of choice, between two 

1416
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:08,100
masters that would rule over you
and government is slavery. 

1417
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:10,600
And that's it. 
It's all, it, all comes down to 

1418
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,900
that, that you have to just 
simply dispel those euphemisms 

1419
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:17,200
and get people to understand 
that all the political game is, 

1420
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:20,300
Is, is a dialectic to get people
to choose a master? 

1421
01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:24,000
And once they stop doing that, 
once they realize that, there is

1422
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,500
no legitimacy to some people 
being Masters while other people

1423
01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:30,200
are their slaves. 
Then the world will make had 

1424
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:34,600
roads into being truly free. 
And that's what we as voluntary 

1425
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:39,600
as ADD as a Turkish ultimately 
advocate for Gentlemen, thank 

1426
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,400
you so much for your time. 
Like and Roses there. 

1427
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,300
Anything that I didn't ask that,
you would like to be in sort of 

1428
01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:48,300
this introduction Roundtable to 
anarchism. 

1429
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,300
Anything. 
I didn't bring up you'd like to 

1430
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,300
well. 
I just, I like to harp on the 

1431
01:19:54,300 --> 01:19:58,400
the fact that this this is about
freeing people from their own 

1432
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,900
lives and even as voluntary as 
we need to keep that in our 

1433
01:20:01,900 --> 01:20:05,000
heads, that it's not, I'm going 
to defeat them. 

1434
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,500
I'm going to, you know, show 
that them, that they're wrong 

1435
01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:08,600
and I'm right. 
Right. 

1436
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,800
It is really a matter of showing
them that they are right 

1437
01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:14,800
underneath the garbage. 
They were taught and we need to 

1438
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,200
help them. 
See that the garbage does not 

1439
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,700
match what they really are, what
they really believe in and help 

1440
01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:27,400
them dare to throw off the 
garbage and like I said reclaim 

1441
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,600
their own self ownership and 
their own responsibility, not. 

1442
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,700
So they can blindly believe me 
or Mark, or you or anybody else 

1443
01:20:33,900 --> 01:20:38,200
but so they can actually 
function as independent. 

1444
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,800
Thinking moral human beings 
Mark. 

1445
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,100
Is there anything? 
I didn't ask that you'd like to 

1446
01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:45,800
communicate to the audience. 
I mean, maybe the only thing 

1447
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,700
that I would add as an addendum 
is, you know, the power of the 

1448
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:53,600
hold of the ego over the mine, 
and many people would consider 

1449
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,800
this more of a spiritual topic, 
but the ego, as I see, it is 

1450
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,900
really just the force that 
refuses to acknowledge, that it 

1451
01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:05,100
was wrong. 
It's the thing that is deeply 

1452
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:08,900
embedded in the human psyche. 
That makes someone Refuse to 

1453
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:11,600
admit that they could have been 
wrong about something or that 

1454
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,400
they could have been duped about
something. 

1455
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,400
And when we really do, Shadow, 
work Upon Our Own subconscious 

1456
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,100
mind. 
And what we look deep inside of 

1457
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:23,700
ourselves and what our belief 
systems are that we think are 

1458
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,100
true. 
You know, we have to come head 

1459
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:30,100
to head up against that force, 
that force of the ego that is 

1460
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:33,300
out of control that wants to 
constantly say, no, you're 

1461
01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:34,200
right. 
You're okay. 

1462
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,600
Just keep going. 
Don't look into these things. 

1463
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,100
Don't acknowledge that. 
You were. 

1464
01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:42,600
All, you know, and we have to 
actually try to really use the 

1465
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:47,800
tools at our disposal to come to
an accurate understanding versus

1466
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,800
what we previously believed was 
true. 

1467
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:54,700
That's a very, very difficult 
spiritual process. 

1468
01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:57,600
As far as I'm concerned. 
That's why so few people want to

1469
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,300
do that. 
Type of Shadow work of an 

1470
01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:03,600
analysis actually analyzing 
their own belief systems and 

1471
01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:08,100
what they feel and believe to be
true because that's its. 

1472
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,000
It's a painful process. 
It's something that most people 

1473
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:15,100
find very, very uncomfortable 
and painful, outright painful. 

1474
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,000
And that's why so few people 
want to do it. 

1475
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,800
But what we as advocates of 
true, freedom, and a voluntary 

1476
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,300
Society should be trying to help
explain to them is a little bit 

1477
01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:29,900
of discomfort in the short-term 
can result in a much better life

1478
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:31,900
in the long term. 
If we're willing to go through 

1479
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:34,500
that process of rediscovery of 
self. 

1480
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,200
Terrific. 
And as I mentioned at the 

1481
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,600
beginning, please visit Mark 
patheos website. 

1482
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,700
What on Earth is happening.com 
Mark and Rose? 

1483
01:22:42,700 --> 01:22:44,700
As I mentioned, has the 
Gradebook the most dangerous 

1484
01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:48,200
Superstition Larkin. 
What is the website where you 

1485
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:53,100
have the candles in the dark for
people to purchase just for 

1486
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:54,600
that. 
It's called attend. 

1487
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,000
Two candles.com but we just 
recently launched a website 

1488
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:02,500
called The Rose channel.com that
has that seminar, but also a 

1489
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:04,700
bunch of some a couple videos we
did. 

1490
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,300
Just for the subscribers and 
it'll have all of the past daily

1491
01:23:09,300 --> 01:23:11,200
Ransom down. 
There are now hundreds of them 

1492
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,300
and basically, a whole bunch of 
stuff. 

1493
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:15,400
We're making. 
Now that will be on the rose 

1494
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,300
Channel.com. 
I mean, for god sakes. 

1495
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:20,400
We spent 12 years in government 
schools. 

1496
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,400
Let's give Larkin like six hours
of our time for something. 

1497
01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:27,500
So special gentlemen. 
Thank you so much for joining me

1498
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,000
and thank you to the viewers for
watching Keith Knight. 

1499
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,000
Don't try it on anyone.