The greatest bulwark against the state isn't online activist, but
rather powerful local families that have both the means and
skin in the game to resist foreign power.
Welcome to Keith's night. Don't tread on anyone.
And the libertarian Institute today.
I have so Bishop the author of that.
Excellent quote. He is the assistant editor at
The mises Institute. Mr. Bishop if people want to
find your collection of work, where is the best place to go?
What is Paleo libertarianism? The Paleo libertarianism was a
deliberate strategy promoted by Murray rothbard, Lew Rockwell
Justin raimondo and others in the 90s that kind of recognized
two important things for one. You have to time.
Their obviously. This is a post-cold war
political environment and they recognize that The Boogeyman of
the Soviet Union, which not the below the little obviously, the
horrific Sure of that regime, but that had long been used as
the justification for the expansion of the American Empire
and for a hawkish foreign policy, which is sell translated
and variety of domestic stems. And alongside of that, it was
about 20 years. After really, a true, American
libertarian movement. If you think as a rothbard fans,
you think about, for New Liberty, which is a great book,
but what, Ross, hard and Rockwell, and part Guided by the
experience of Ron Paul as a Libertarian candidate in the
80s. They recognize that the people
who identified as libertarian were not as good as the ideas of
libertarian. And and so the Paleo strategy
wasn't explicit Outreach to the right.
Particularly the Paleo conservatives in the Pat
Buchanan, mold as well as a deliberate attempt to distance
themselves from the libertarian movement, as they saw it.
In the 90s. There is an excellent article,
which you have four. Published called I believe it's
called the case for Paleo libertarianism by Lew Rockwell
in. There.
He says briefly paleo libertarianism with its old
roots with its roots in the old right sees 10 things.
Let's go over these ten things. Please explain to me why each
one of these is of importance that we should appreciate.
Number one, the Leviathan State as an Institutional source of
evil throughout history. Yeah, I think that is something
that is that there's kind of a ballpoint to libertarian
perspective. But I think in this case is also
important with in that, that trying to tap into those old
right traditions because in particular kind of harking, back
to the ante No Deal coalition of.
And that's one of the things I think is so interesting and in
both the work of vocal rothbard Rockwell is their appreciation
for American political history and one of my favorite articles
strategy for a right cross bars and outlines how That's all the
right perspective. A lot of the framing of the
dangers of the administrative fade them Alliance state for
Libertarians had an outsized impact on that relative
movement. So this kind of a hike knowledge
meant of the state and anti civilizational School.
Number two, the unhampered free market as a moral and practical
imperative. Yes, and this is one of again,
still at this point. I think the first six or seven
or kind of things are going to General libertarian ideas.
But of course, this is important, particularly in this
period if framing because of the right Outreach, where the
skepticism of the market, sometimes works against some of
the perhaps and goals of conservatives.
There is a great chapter in Papua kanan's book Church.
Kill Hitler in the unnecessary War.
I think it's sarcastically titled, man of the century about
Winston Churchill. And he says he cites, that May
11th 1940 was the day that Britain basically engaged in
some of the most barbarous heinous acts when they started
to try and win the war by focusing on civilian targets.
It was all thought up by a guy named Frederick Linda man.
So far from moral degeneracy being the result of free markets
private property, voluntary exchange and Families.
It's the state where people are so blinded by the belief in
political Authority and the erroneous hatred of the quote
enemy that they're able to justify things.
They would otherwise she has blatantly illegitimate.
So, I think Buchanan is such a great Ally.
When it comes to showing that the state is the enemy of
morality and civilization rather than the free market.
Are. There any things you focus on
when communicating to conservatives?
Why the free market is something they should appreciate when it
comes to wanting to live. Moral and civil lives.
One of the important thing right now is I think that will kind of
on the defensive because, you know, we're when conservatives
talk about like don't like what you do right now and some of the
intellection interesting intellectual fears when you're
right. I mean, they will attack the
word capitalism and much the same way.
The left will as kind of using that as a description of the
current state. And I think that one of the
priorities I think this is this is not only, I think, an
important theoretical Point obviously and an improved way of
properly understand the world that's exist.
But also strategic points that you know, we have to highlight
the degree, particularly what the objections out.
There are often, even for example, right now, that the
corporate consolidation of power big Tech, the Black Rock and
things like that. And so highlighting that a lot
of their complaint about About big business about these
monopolies and things like that are not the product.
Either the result of a free market that some of these
trainee other than the trade Arrangement that I've Rosen
since the 90s or not free trade, but government managed trade,
which is why Ralph Buchanan were allies on NASA and others, but
really the consequence of global of financialization of and the
role of the fed and and the the disconnect of sound money as
being a Major Benchmark that if you politicize size of an inch
and any try to build houses, I mean that's going to create some
issues and get kind of same way that we have with the issue with
fiat currency and as members of the economy.
If they exist today for trying to engage in a meaningful way,
what the often we it's a game of semantics and it's a bit but
it's a problem is is that if we get frustrated and throw up our
hands and don't engage on this issue, did not Not only does it
prevent us from working with people like Pat Buchanan that
have a proper understanding of the dangers of the American
Empire and pox Americana, but also it will necessarily make
whatever the American Ride and whatever power.
It has less libertarian by simply lacking any serious
engagement on these things seriously.
So it's like, I think this is the key area of intellectual
discussion that why paleo Libertarians Are so important
because they were the only ones that can kind of communicate on
Comics dog sheet. I think that's so vitally
important. So, while the conservatives are
absolutely right about big Tech being more or less a criminal
Syndicate. At this point, the US government
just seized 22 websites the other day, including press
tv.com. So it's not that should we have
a free market where bad things happen or a political system
instead of having bad things? No bad things are going to
happen on. Or which system.
Would you rather those bad things occur at least in the
free market? You have some competition and
lower barriers to entry. So, yeah, excellent point about
the big tech conglomerates there.
What number Big Tex the problem will kind
gesture but I think that's wasn't really interesting thing
about rothbart's analysis. They like Teddy Roosevelt who
was one of those popular figures that the American rights, the
resurrection of his bull moose or Teddy populism, some of that
just a pathetic. Right?
You know, Teddy Roosevelt, does admittedly have come this Macho
aesthetic, which is I understand.
What's popular But ultimately what the lessons are there.
Is that me what? Teddy Roosevelt Windows busting
trust. He wasn't create you even taking
out some of the power he's taking out his rival Sinister
power. And and and so we can like we
want to understand the corrupted nature of the Empire itself and
particularly considering if you are a cultural conservatives and
you don't recognize the degree to which, you know, the debate
at all levels of power and are never going to be wheeled in to
our advantage. And I think that it also
highlights the importance of, we don't want to give further power
to 12 to the enemy of DC typical were chasing after the end of
the fucking ballot. So I think the work is never on
the Santa Cruz reported some of these your Having State lovers
to from apply pressure. There's a much better approach
than. So again.
That's why they're smooth. Why the battleground of some
point? It's also an opportunity that we
need to engage with it. Honestly, rather than kind of
retreating to the easy talking point.
Exactly Point number. Three by Lew Rockwell private
property as an economic and moral necessity for a free
Society. Strong protection of property
rights given few institutions that can push back against the
prevailing Zeitgeist of the day and obviously given where the
cultural lovers of Power are right.
Now. Again, if you are, even if
you're a great American conservative, without any sort
of sympathies to libertarianism as as a spin one philosophy, you
should appreciate that. You're in the minority when it
comes to over the power. That's when appreciation of
property rights, a failure to appreciate property rights and
suicidal. Point Number Four, The Garrison
State as a preeminent threat to Liberty and social well-being.
Yes, and I think this is particularly interesting right
now because, you know, we're in a period right now.
If you'd war on domestic Terror, Glenn Greenwald among other been
great, particles of this change, the by Administration and and
even though kind of maybe the argument to pass about standing
armies and things like that. It's because concealed
Antiquated a time. What we're seeing now is federal
use of Grant programs to local law enforcement.
Aunt as as a means of trying. Then you and of course, the
more, the federal government places its fingerprints on local
law enforcement, the greater consequence that has when you
think of kind of prevailing Grassroots movements, but for in
nullification laws and things like that you want law
enforcement. If you're going to have you
know, a body dedicated to law enforcement and property of
production of for your protection of property rights.
You Want it to be made up of those in the community.
Not those Allied to a district capital.
Point number five, the welfare state as organized theft that
victimizes producers and eventually even its clients and
that is something that I think it was a focal point of
important because in that used to be a very common held
tradition with the old bright and of course, you know, the
issues quickly. Now, there's this Rising
economic populist argument that will try to make conservative
defenses of the welfare state. Of course, I think one of the
things that makes this little bit different than the Deal is
living on inflationary environment, the store, you
know, because we've lived in a period of consistent Improvement
of material well-being for a variety of different reasons.
Once that change, as we move into an inflationary
environment, a lot of the considerations of the right
economic. Let's go out the window.
When you start feeling real consequences to welfare programs
in my life. Point number six, civil
liberties based on property rights as essential to a just
society. And I think the key there is
good, grounding it in property, right?
Rather abstract nature of the Vic, right?
Which is kind of the religion of the Empire.
Yeah. So that's the warning there.
I think it's very particular, very important Point number
seven, the egalitarian ethic as morally, reprehensible and
destructive of private property and social Authority.
And this is when, you know, with the article illumination for
that distance an area where some Libertarians or disagree in
understand place though, and I think importantly so and I think
this kind of gets the goal you. This is why you know recently in
conversations with Dave Smith and others.
It's my the conversation kind of be like a watered down into the
Republican Party versus libertarian party for me.
My underlying to me. Those are the consequences.
Camera large triply for have, which is being a Liberty
Movement at the unified and he is going to bang.
I think counterproductive precisely because of
disagreements on these next three points here.
I think show a significant disagreements and what should it
be Society? Be if you after the state.
And, of course, the university, he rejection, egalitarian, be
egalitarian ISM. As a romantic ideal or a name,
obviously reflected and He must read article and rothbard zagal
Shrine of the galaxy arianism has a revolt against Nate, but
also something that is very baked into like the worldview of
food Von mises and others. So, again, this, this is where
you start getting the fun cultural differences within the
libertarian movement. Sure.
And rothbard, excellent point in that book, the collection of
essays yell terrorism as revolt against nature.
He says that, you know, it might be a little Infusing seeing
presidents in the most powerful people on Earth, talking about
equality, like you. And I are so unequal me and, you
know, Boris Johnson at the G7, the need for a quality, your
million times more powerful than I'll ever be.
And he says, this is a brilliant tactic, because it's not only
undefinable, but it's unachievable under any system
fascism syndicalism, capitalism socialism, whatever you want to
call it. So it the existence of a lack of
equality. Justifies further egalitarian
legislation, which justifies more and more, and more.
And it, it just is a, I think the, the term itself, licking
ice cream cone is how it's like, you invade a country mess things
up and say, well, look how bad things are.
We need to really step it up in here.
So, again, this, this happens Point number eight, social
Authority. As embodied in the Family Church
community and other intermediating institutions, as
helping protect the The individual from the state and as
necessary for the free and a virtuous Society.
Can't get it to the point that you open the comment.
I was getting that you quoted at the beginning of episode of said
II, there's no greater defense against the reform of the state.
It's not simply the levers of power and the raw brutality of
the fifth of government, but it was also a bit of a cultural
Zeitgeist they did and it requires self-sustaining strong
Networks. To withstand that and of course,
beautiful. We are, we are not hyper or
atomized individuals. We are born into families, who
are born into communities. We are born into language groups
and religions, and all of these aspects that is recite, Human
Society is so much deeper than simply our political Viewpoint.
And again, this is something that you meet these.
It's something that I think it's very telling when you see some
of the target. For example, Nick left and I'm
not trying to compete cheap shot but like In the past.
He has explicitly Define his view of libertarianism as the
promotion of all What alternative Lifestyles.
And of course, that's something that would be, you know, that
that is not the way that they are lured.
Von mises a man of Old Europe would be defining a liberalism
properly understood and I didn't go to some of the cultural
differences there. Yeah, it almost has this
critical theory approach of alternative lifestyle.
So in other words if we convince everyone of self-ownership
non-aggression and private property live.
Bert arianism would then mean an alternative to the current
practicing of voluntary exchanges and voluntary
contracts. There's nothing to even sink
your teeth into with that, Gillespie definition.
You going at the Funny, Bone, a, for carrying all that, all the
of, all of the great things. I'm not putting all of that.
But especially this last year has really helped me.
Is that Liberty is not an individual value.
It is this fairly a collective value.
Yeah. I thought were man and a
tyrannical regime doesn't have a lot of freedom but a, being a
member of a society that values Freedom, as an end.
That is what actually a lot of people live free, not simply,
you know, Argue about who's the most Libertarian person and, you
know, Amazon Gulag right at the difference there.
Sure. That's why I love that.
Image of individualism and collectivism.
In the individual, they're shaking hands and the
collectivists. Their hands are cuffed and
they're being forced to shake. So it's not everyone does their
own thing. You know, as Henry hazlitt said,
you can't even make a pencil by yourself.
You can't even come close. So, therefore it, we're all in
this together. We want to do so on a voluntary.
Peace. All private property, ethic
basis. Yes.
I think that's a vitally important point for us to
appreciate number nine, Western culture as eminently, worthy of
preservation and defense and, and obviously pushed back to get
any sort of sort of recognition of the degree to, which Liberty
with the uniquely Western virtue.
And from that extrapolated it what what they direct byproduct
of Christian culture. And again, this is true
regardless of your view on the theology involved.
It has been dabbling in the culture that evolved in the west
grounded in judeo Christian values.
And that's rough Reiko work on the threat on what made the west
or the what the other European miracle in the like the other.
There's also it's a very good. This is another area where my
views have changed. Last few years with what I, you
know, full appreciation of the debt that we owe from that
Western Christian Legacy. It regardless of your religious
views. Have you read?
Gosh, it's been so long. I think it's it's Tom.
Woods is book how the Catholic church built Western
Civilization. I've not read that one in
particular. I have read rothbart's history
of economic thought which pays a lot of It is Rich.
I acknowledge the contributions of the Catholic church and
within that it currently. Now, based off the
recommendation of her met Eric and I'm reading Tom Hollands
Dominion, which, which provides Chris or proper historical
context for just how revolutionary the example of
Christ was. And that's a fact this has been
a fascinating read but it's something I remember a few years
ago at the Institute during our research conference Dania, Jamie
and David wonderful talk on the cost of the Enlightenment, much
was one of those radical things that are seeing.
It was saying a lot and that really invite questions, you
know, sort of the classical sort of liberal framework.
There's anyone out there. If you're if you're in this
topic, that talk has been something, I'd highly recommend.
Oh, yeah. Well, it's what we need to learn
the lessons that were constantly saying with everything there are
costs and benefits. Even you know, what, the guy
Theodore John Kaczynski was talking about all the costs of
the Industrial Revolution. Ellucian and how it can lead to,
you know, people not being in families and communities and
feeling that the whole world is on their shoulders alone.
They don't have people to lean on.
So yeah, there's a there's cost to everything one thing about
Western Civilization. Molyneux Stefan.
Molyneux. The philosopher said that doubt
is the one thing that makes Western Civilization unique.
Going back to Socrates willing to question, fundamental ideas.
Scientists willing to question. In the Pope's Authority
separation of church and state. I think you're gonna go to hell
if you don't believe what I believe, but I'm not positive.
So I'm still going to let you be free.
Do you see doubt as what makes Western Civilization unique and
worthy of preservation. All that.
Niall Ferguson his book on has made the West, the best play the
highlights that as one of the pisan in.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of important Concepts in
abstractions that you can't be able to take a foothold in the
western world because of those underlying cultural values.
And I think that the complex network of them all.
Is what allowed for the flourishing of Liberty and the
civilization Point number 10, finally objective standards of
morality, especially as found in the judeo Christian tradition as
a central to the free and civilized social order.
Yep. And again, I get a disc.
This is It's the key of it. And yeah, and it's this is often
one of the one of the aspects that is criticized by certain
types of libertarian, where it's, because this is kind of a
push back against the idea that the NASA is enough, right?
You know that. Yeah, that.
Yeah. And and, you know, so it is, is
it detrimental, you know before? Or a Conservative Christian
family live next to a bunch of dude.
It's the things like that. Yeah, they the importance of
Community Values for a cohesive society.
And and I think that again that this is one of those fun Hots
cultural views. And this is also why I guess II
think that a rejection of that. As a norm, makes it difficult
for a Liberty Movement to result in a cohesive. 12:40, is it
right on that article? Like Luke quotes that Jackie
Cooper JK Chesterton something extent of, you know, we agree on
what what the evil is. But it is upon the question of
what is the good that we call each other's eyes out?
And I think about some of these discussions.
I've come with my Erickson and some of the others, then sort of
the questioning of what this libertarian movement really
stands for, and I think a lot of that stems from disagreement on
what, But where do you expect all this to end?
And again, I think that, if your goal, if you recognize the
strengths of a society grounded in those judeo-christian ethics,
I think that it for one. Helps you prioritize, which
issues are out there terms of Outreach, and also makes it a
lot easier to identify who those people you should be.
Get. You should be reaching out to
come. Come, come in to be exact.
I really saw this in a post that recently went sort of viral.
This was both any Progressive and left libertarian circles.
And it was something like why are people always like?
Oh, I hope that homeless person doesn't spend the money.
I give them on drugs or alcohol. Once I give them money.
It's not my business anymore. That is only something.
Someone would they totally left? His mindset would say, I mean,
Are you kidding me? You don't care.
Whether they use it to get a bus ride to get a job application or
use it. I mean, either crystal meth or
job application. They don't have they don't have
any standards. Whereas you would never hear any
Trump, DeSantis Marjorie, Taylor green supporter say that and
when you have that kind of worldview, we should really be
aligning with the people who sort of at least recognize the
difference there. And again, it comes down to a
lot of Libertarians are attracted to the convenient.
Ask you that they see libertarianism as a way of kind
of justifying life decisions at times.
And I get I did this this goes into some of the Kinks that Lou
and Marie had about the libertarian movement that they
watched evolved around them. And that's why like why I love
so much reading the depth of Mason's as work because even
though he was a great Economist, even though he was a proud and
passionate author of classical liberal political thought, you
know, ultimately what he was. Illustrating, a variety of
different disciplines with what are the, what is required for
civilization to thrive? And that requires a lot more
than their understanding of an app that requires more than, you
know, a belief in Lafayette, their economic policy at the end
in itself. You know, it requires your, what
allows for the driving and getting this they terrifying
aspect is that you know civilization is who built by
having low time, from right, you know, planting trees that are
grandkids are going to be able to benefit from and then, you
know a a talk show libertarian framework allows you to fully
recognize the how structured our institutions are to promote High
Time, preference, short, term behavior, and I think a lot of
Libertarians They may differ on the margins State.
They they have no problem, reducing human existence down to
you know, self-gratification units.
And again, I think that's problematic.
Excellent points there one things that the conservatives
are also right about I think is the importance of identity.
I don't know if you've seen these two top trending stories
on Twitter, but one was Demi Lovato comes out as non-binary.
Man comes out as Korean, he is no longer British.
He identifies as Korean and after 18, plastic surgeries will
only respond to you calling him Korean.
This is such a sad case of people needing and identity,
something to feel Something to Believe In.
I can't imagine kids working in the coal mines, saying, I think
I'm transgender. I think I'm Korean and then
they're beating away. It's like you would never have
time for such such bizarre nonsense.
Do you think, how do you think Libertarians can?
Benefit from recognizing the importance of identity were
regarding the individual and the community.
Well, I think I think the community aspect is one of my
favorite talks about limiting to.
It was Jeff tight Corner libertarian talk where he gets
to the point of you know, what were you, what do you want to
fight for? And the problem is one of the
things, the Libertarians I think take for granted, is they assume
that everyone else kind of think like, them or has the ability to
think like them? And the problem is that a lot of
people don't like, a lot of people are not motivated by
abstract arguments and and concerns with Hyper rational,
logical consistency. They are motivated by a sense of
security, by a sense of Pride, by these tribalistic sort of
Nature's there and there is A bad habit that can arise from
strong intellectual Traditions to think that the real goal is
to kind of improve Humanity. Have a evolved past these
archaic past rituals, you know, like family and tribe and God
and all that sort of stuff. And I think that is given, that
that's kind of, underlying Dynamic of progressive was than,
I think, properly understood. And that is something that that
Libertarians could benefit from some humility in that regard.
And I think there's something to be said about how the old adage
of that. Pillar a movement that
Libertarians have a lot to learn from conservatives about culture
and what it means to maintain a cohesive Society.
I'm all conservative a lot to learn from overturned on
economic issues. Of course, on page, 197 of
democracy. The God That Failed hunts APA
says States. Everywhere were intent upon
breaking down and ultimately destroying families and the
institutions and layers and hierarchies of authority that
are the natural outgrowth of family-based communities, in
order to increase and strengthen their own power.
What do you think is important for Libertarians to recognize
the importance of competing authorities to the state's
attempted Monopoly? As well, I think Libertarians
have been better on this than most.
I think they people that have needed this this lesson.
And I think I've gotten this lesson couldn't card particular
past year or conservative particular with the issues in
public school system, you know, I think that there have been a
naivete about just how much the state particularly that at the
federal level education. North inevitable, stated that do
matter but the degree to, which the state of is a benevolent
actor. And I think, yeah, I am.
I'm encouraged at the degree to, which the the kind of too full
for one. Seeing the fruits of our
education system often burning down cities last year with with
these kind of left. If Mom coupled with the
Awakening of the dangers of critical race Theory.
No. More that conservative well
recognized that the state institutions are built to
undermine their connection to their most important asset their
children. That is one of those ways where,
you know, a a massive change in the way that they view.
Those institutions can considering how many, how many
more conservatives are out there, going to tear.
And that's something that I think has the potential.
Home to do some significant damage to the regime.
There's a number of things that unites people on the quote.
Right? And I think this is why we have
so much in common with the DeSantis supporters.
Trump supporters, Marjorie, Taylor green supporters.
Whereas it's extremely difficult to really get along with some of
these left-libertarians, especially ones, you like, who
are, you know, defending critical race Theory, the actual
racism that is Is a big problem in America so we discussed
probably the first main thing that right-wingers have in
common, the hatred of egalitarianism specially
egalitarian outcomes. Another thing that connects us
is the idea of negative rights that you are not inherently owed
something by others Society or the state.
What do you think? Do you think focusing on -
rights is important? I think it is.
So I think there's a, when the use of things that for all of
the other failings of the Constitution.
It does make a good rhetorical Benchmark.
So, so, again, I'm very sympathetic to the Views,
Lysander Spooner. But if your goal is a rhetorical
one to communicate, you being able to, to ground your
Viewpoint and Founding Fathers, as opposed to an anarchist
philosopher, definitely has had some strong.
Strength there. But yeah, and that's the beauty
of it. I mean, this is why rothbard
conceived in Liberty series would have a love letter to the
or internships at the founding of the American tradition.
It's something that it's very tempting at consulate.
Ryan's, I think to feel that they were involved in, even this
kind of tribal connection, but I think grounding that
particularly given the advantage that we have, as Eric and in
that Heritage makes a whole lot easier to outreach for the
right. And again and if your goal is
forming a formidable political alliances, sometimes I think
that is a obvious Common Ground. There Thomas Soul said something
that connects the right is the constrained view of the world,
which is the moral limitations of human beings.
In particular, their egocentricity, self-centeredness
and selfishness are accepted as inherent Facts of Life.
The Challenge is to make the best Of the possibilities that
exist within that constraint rather than waste energy trying
to change human nature along with things like, you know,
admiration of strength and achievement.
Do you see the conflict of Visions or the constrained view
as something that should be appreciated?
Or is that more of an intellectual thing?
We don't exactly need to harp on with conservatives.
Now do I think that there's always different?
You could house, but I think that this does go to an
important point in highlighting them.
Some of those differences that exist of the libertarian ranks,
which is important in your Outreach to the right.
Because again, I think that that is a rejection of that sort of
progressive nature, your Progressive view of humanity is
something fixable, you know, you recognizing that we were living
in a fallen world and that the plans perhaps made with the best
of intentions will be abused. Used by, if there's ability for
the big, be corrupted and abuse people will find means to do so
know that that is a level of humility.
If it take it at face, graded provides a level of humility
that most Progressive or people that have those very
revolutionary view have to reckon with what is the most
important thing you've learned from or contribution of Lew
Rockwell. I can totally rock wall to be
one of the the indefensible men of the idea that Civilization
ham of a rider. I mean things such a eloquent,
beautiful and subset of writer. He eat, he writes with this
level of gratitude that I think is really kind of key to kind of
like kind of a mises Institute for the Fantastic tradition.
A lot of ways. I mean the way that he just I'll
break figures like nieces and rothbard and never put the
attention on himself. But also, I mean, but more
importantly than that is the role of mu as a system Builders
and it's an institution Builder and then this one thing I love
about sort of mises Institute type.
Yeah, I'll do a lot of our material that can look at the
development of intellectual movements in the role that
institution play in there. That allow idea.
Has to really stay in and be kept alive and spread and thrive
in advance, and involved. And the ability of the fact that
Lou Rockwell was able to build an institution that has lasted,
almost 40 years to the dedication of the ideas of Luis
Von mises and the Austrian school because it's truly
incredible. And that's why I like anybody
out there. Again.
It's if you find an article that of loaded, ring that you
disagree, with, if you care at all about Liberty, if you care
at all about He's a rapper and about things and you're not
grateful for the work that that Lou has.
And if you don't deserve to the ideas of the recent rothbard
like that, he's done it. Most important thing you learned
from literally Von mises. Courage.
We are so lucky. I mean, I mean, Luis Von mises
maybe the greatest intellectual figures of human history, as far
as I'm concerned, but even greater than any single book
that he's had. I mean, that that's there's a
lot to be said about. I mean, either the Revit just
praxeology as an instrument of Understanding Human Society
Beyond narrowly economic at the. And I didn't know if I could
take one of the, the untapped gold mines out there for
intellectual output is greater investment in non-economic.
Praxeological sort of analysis, a fact that they've given us.
There's so much, you could go down there for, but I think the
best book that we have in the midst of bookstore is Is Not
Human Action. It's nothing about Ron Paul or
problem, Woods. I think it's the biography of
the was on me because Because his life, but the way that he
lived his life. I think makes his ideas all the
more incredible. And so that needs to take all
the more seriously, it's against the ability of standing up for
history. No matter the cost for the
stakes that as much as to any theoretical concept is something
inspiring. Most important thing you learned
from me. Rien rothbard.
Questioning the historical narrative.
I think that we're getting brought economists.
Brian, political theater, theorists.
And honestly, there's a fact that you have to take that back
to the historical narrative. Hardness is very important.
His revisionist work in history for something I learned from
him, but even perhaps greater than that, was the recognition
that if you truly hate the state that is not enough, you have to
And the state and the makeup of the state and hit the fact that
you had someone of his intellectual achievement in
Kingsville, T, that was not content with simply being an
ivory Tower intellectual rather seriously, engage with the
question of strategy of ideological Warfare.
That is something it is precisely that that gets to them
attacked by Scholars and cushy tenured jobs that aren't
particularly worried about their livelihood, but I think that as
much as anything else sets them apart and something that
obviously has been a tremendous influence on me, and I didn't
have two steps work. Most important thing you learned
from Hans, Hermann, Hoppa. He has the power of controversy.
I think that there's a lot of great insights that help us
brought to the table, but I think it is incredible that he
is able to drive his enemies. So crazy, in spite of the fact
that he's not on social media, right?
Like, you know that there's this is Mystique of him.
Because you need, he's living a five-star hotel.
And, you know, he only drinks us from from the clouds once a year
PFF sand and may occasionally stir event, either the fact that
that he's able just to write a, you know, a deep intellectual
piece. But just with these little,
these little Jabs that will just drive it when he's crazy II,
think that that's one of the reasons why he has it.
Kind of resurrected interest in spite of it.
There's no reason accomplished be as the the mean that he is,
right? You like and he is precisely
because of his ability to for conjurer's, I love others.
Just as I think the fascinating intellectual phenomenon as it's
for everything else. That's what that is unloved.
One of my favorite things that Hapa gives us at the end of
democracy. The God That Failed is his
Thinking behind, why old-school, conservative small government
classical Liberal, Liberal, ideas have not succeeded.
So here are a few quotes from the final chapters of The God,
That Failed liberalism Central and monumentous error lies in
its theory of government. It is impossible to derive to
derive, a justification for government from explicit
contracts between private property owners.
Once the premise of government is accepted liberals.
Classical Liberals are left. Without argument, when socialist
try to pursue this premise without moral argument, at his
disposal, a liberal is left only with the tool of cost-benefit
analysis. But any such analysis must
involve interpersonal. Comparisons of utility, such as
comparisons, such comparisons are impossible.
Scientifically impermissible. Liberals will have to recognize
no government can be contractually justified.
I just love that from Lou. Where he says that we sort of
give them too much wiggle room. Socialists.
So that's why I'm not surprised when I see Lindsey Graham next
to Benjamin Netanyahu holding a sign that says more for Israel.
Oh, why not more? Why not help people what's wrong
with the government doing anything to help a group.
If you buy into government, you of course would believe such
nonsense like that. Well, finally, I want to ask you
what you think Libertarians can learn from the successful
campaigns of Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor
green. Variation of the unit party.
Consensus of what was the sexual part of the form looks like and
the degree to which point I'm in the past.
Is that Trump, in many ways, is the anti Reagan both like Reagan
and Trump, both had great campaign rhetoric.
Both Reagan and Trump had at best imperfect record in the
presidency. The Differences though.
Is that Reagan convinced conservative to trust the
institutions that hated conservative America.
Whereas Trump has awakened conservative America to the
degree to, which these institutions hate them.
And that is something that if you're a Libertarian and don't
don't recognize the value at play when you have 50 plus
million Republicans, that know that the Joe Biden
ministrations, illegitimate. I mean, this is, this is the
best opportunity I've ever had. And I didn't really understand
the lessons when Adam You think they're, we understand the
degree to, which federal power, depends upon perception of
legitimate basis. In terms of on DeSantis, his
success, his successful campaign was an illustration of the power
of trump as a political force, but I think the success, his
governorship goes to the degree to which some Republicans are
waking up to the nature of the cathedral, you know, as it has
been popularized of light because ultimately, you know,
his, Reason why he has to be the leading figure of the Republican
Party coach. Trump today, is him standing up
to the public policy experts and falchi sending up in the
corporate, press setting up to universities, which it has been
one of the strengths of this legislative session.
In fact, you're really dealing with the serious power
structures. Rather than the thought of
ceremonial democracy at the federal level.
And the case of market failure, green.
I think it is degree to the degree to, which the Trump model
scales again, microfiber. Libertarian, I don't think she
wants to legalize recreational cocaine tomorrow, but she
questions the narrative in important ways.
She's attacked warmonger. She attacked a neocon.
She has a pack of many of those same enemies that Trump has,
which is a minute. He's a Libertarian should have.
If you don't have those enemies, that's time for some
self-reflection. And so, I think the Marjorie
Tyler Greene, and that gate food though.
They are obvious allies for those.
Those who recognize the biggest threat to Liberty, is the
centralized power of the regime properly understood rather, and
that's it, the best help that we have politically within.
The American perspective is kind of a a war.
It is a movement of National Liberation away from that
centralized isolated power and I think that stands and In
contrast to the more revolutionary mindset of, you
know, wanting in capistan or, you know, say I think that there
are means to achieve a more radical libertarian Society, but
is going to be exit from the current political regime, rather
than some sort of grand Revolution within the political
regime. Again, I'm all for see.
Setting, I'm offer special economic Sounds.
I'm all for me, returning Honduras and to gulp Gulch,
whatever. But if you're interested in
American politics, in a way of creating, perhaps up libertarian
idea, but something a little bit more free.
There's something to be learned from prompt, DeSantis merger
each other green that gate the whole ranked couldn't couldn't
agree more on. It was the day that, you know,
the election was given to Biden that there was this huge, you
know, protest. Outside of the Arizona capitol
and I remember thinking, they all think that the government is
going to be illegitimate. I need to get down there.
So I put on my black and yellow flag because I go I got to stand
out somehow and I went down there.
I could not get people to stop talking to me about about the
black and yellow flag. People asked me for my podcast
where as you know, the average podcaster trying to compete in
this field as like, you know, really trying to push themselves
out there. People who like.
Oh, please write it down. I want to make sure can I find
it on alternative sites? Because you know YouTube is
Twitter ban Trump and that is going to ban Trump and this is
ridiculous. So yeah, I think you're so right
on with, you know, that being very unique territory for us to
really appreciate and make the most of any final thoughts on
Paleo libertarianism while we close out.
I'ma get the beauty of it. I simply and building off the
shoulders of far greater men. And you know, I it's been
exciting to see people like yourself interested and
pursuing, you know, I think it's really a great heat.
Well of serious libertarian thought and you know, I think it
is a time a and idea that once again kind of come and and at
the very least, I think, I think that it is healthy to have a
Libertarian movement. We're all not sharing the same
bumper sticker slogan. And so again, it's this is going
to be a fun period of time and I look forward to the publishing
more triple law and and providing some original content
about this current age. Thank you everyone for watching
Keith Knight. Don't tread on anyone in the
libertarian Institute. Mr. Bishop.
Thank you so much for your time. Take care.