Don't make me today is dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson.
Dr. Johnson. How can we distinguish truth
from falsehood with regard to historical events?
Of course, this is the central question of my entire existence.
and, The last thing you can do in this respect is to go into a
question with the answer already in your mind.
And the only way to do that is to divest yourself of any
self-interest. And I knew this from the
beginning, special pleading makes people sound like idiots.
You have to be able to control your emotions.
You have to be able to prepare yourself for uncomfortable
results. When you begin reading for major
issues like you're talking about, it is the reading
involved is tremendous. And you have to get the lay of
the land as far as the literature is concerned.
Primary document gonna depend on the issue were talking about
here. Primary documents were always
nice, but they're often misleading because just because
their primary doesn't mean that they're they're good and
interpretation from other successfully in very sensitive
areas, interpretations by other Scholars, especially today is
very suspect to. So you're going to have to be
prepared to be alone to be attacked to be uncomfortable.
That's your absolute first ingredient.
It's basic honesty and I think very few people are capable of
that self-interest is involved be Financial ideological
religious. You're going to sound foolish,
except for people who don't know anything about You know, I went
from Catholicism and Orthodoxy, which was a brutal transition.
For me, over several years are rejecting capitalism.
These took a life to read myself into these things.
So, you know, as a basic the way, it's been over the last few
years, when I find academic historians and Talking Heads
agreeing with the position. I often assume it's wrong,
especially if they don't really give good reasons one, good
example is a rohingya so-called. Rohingya crisis in southern
Burma. No one has ever given a good
reason as to why the Burmese government has been reporting an
attacking them. Just because they're different
or something very, you know, very vague like that but they
don't give a good cui Bono, then that's when you have to start
working or that's how we got into the Burmese situation.
Johnson's law, of course is very important.
If no one knows anything about a topic.
Your audience doesn't know anything.
Well, why do you work so hard for you to say?
Hey give a basic outline, you know, if you're wrong, you're
wrong. No One's Gonna know.
So ultimately truth of Truth and falsehood.
Of the historical event is responsibility of the author.
And the only way to do it is to eliminate and destroy
self-interest. And it's very difficult for me
to admit to the to Crime of the Orthodox Church for example, but
I know I have two from time to time and I think our listeners
and readers respect us for. You know, one of the work, of
course, you know, there's a million different things we
could talk about in this respect.
But whenever your emotions, your connections, financially, or
otherwise or involved, that's probably one topic, you
shouldn't be researching. When it comes to the crimes of
the Soviet Union, you wrote an entire book on this.
When you start this project. What do you start looking for?
Secondary sources and then primary, or you go straight to
primary by passing other current interpretations.
Well, a lot of my books came from separate articles.
That I put together rewrote kind of standardized citations and
then the book comes into existence, there have been a few
times. Like my very first book, I wrote
the book as such. There's some usually to
irritation. That that there's a myth.
There's a story that sounds so probably absurd that I have to
fix it. That's where the first Rome came
from lectures on medieval Russia, came from my University
course on that topic, and I just rewrote those and make those
into a standard text. So that was simply to get that
stuff out there. My Serbia book came from a
document. I found the library from
Dickinson University is no one who was there from a prince of
the Royal family type written in English, so I can't say I have a
standard method but usually it's some kind of irritation.
Something is not being said that there is lies.
Don't have any real support to it.
They don't even trying to make a good case and I start with an
article and I end up with 100 pages so and but generally
speaking, my books are lectures, put together and then
standardized aren't, you know, essays put together and but it's
still for the same reason, fourth primary secondary
sources. The great thing about secondary
sources that they tell you where the primary sources are.
And thank God. We live in the age of the web
where all these things can be looked up in red.
Let me give you one example. This is just a minute.
You mentioned that is this occurred to me.
I would say and I am a supporter of the historical figure of
general suharto of Indonesia, who wiped out the Communist
party and 1966. I've always claimed that the
u.s. Was not particularly into
communist. That was never a big issue with
them. They didn't support these
military dictators in Latin America are out the warehouse
where the review mentally opposed to them in most cases.
That's an old myth. I hope book about that on the
military dictators of Latin America was on Amazon now.
This is bombshell New York Times New York Times article came out
couple of years ago, said the CIA knew about this and
supported this. And we have these 12 documentary
12 cables from the embassy, that that's a it.
Well, they're assuming that no one can read this.
Well, I went I read 12 cables and it says nothing of the kind.
So either they read it and just lied or didn't read it at all.
And it turns out the government was not involved in killing
these Communists. They were often just handing him
over to the Islamic movement and different parts of Indonesia and
they were dispatching them. He saved course, Indonesia from
falling under Soviet orbit, orbit in the 60s.
And of course, he has to be punished for that.
He was never particularly supported by the us, but for
them to come out and say that the CIA was giving him advice.
Ice and backing him in knew exactly what was going on and
kill as many as you want. And here we have these nine.
I think it was 12 or 19, cables documents.
All you know, recently Declassified that prove this I
read them and then or do they not say that in a few cases.
They almost say the opposite. I have to admit, you know,
there's one good thing about Wikipedia and that Wikipedia
usually has some of the best bibliography.
We're all the primary sources can be found.
Yes. That's the one use it has
otherwise, it's pretty useless. So it's going to depend on the
question. If there's a contentious issue
that the primary sources don't agree.
I'm sorry, a secondary sources. Don't agree on our especially if
they all agree which is worse. Then you have to go to the
Commence the extent that they're available.
You know, sometimes the originals, you know, people are
there people, they have their self-interested, they
exaggerated. They want to can see on the
self-important, all this stuff, you know, so even primary
sources have to be read critically.
When it comes to the crimes of the Soviet Union, can you give
me an example of one of their earlier crimes?
And then we'll go later. Give me an example of the crime
and how, you know, it took place.
Well, let's talk just before we started speaking.
When you mentioned that topic, I thought of the holodomor D, the
starvation of Ukraine under Stalin, there are some Russian
Nationals obvious. I'm not one of them.
That either deny this, or minimize this.
Well, again, thank God for the web because all the primary
sources are online. You have Soviet bureaucrats, who
is no via Stalin himself talking about this policy.
It wasn't Secret. Ultimately, this came down to I
have a actually a part of it. I don't know if it was a my
Soviet book or not. I can never remember but because
I end with Stalin there but the primary sources is the only
place you can go. This is what Walter Durante was
trying to cover up. You got the Nobel Prize for that
which I think has been withdrawn.
So for years, no one even talked about that.
And so, whenever you challenged, you have no choice but to go to
primary sources. And here is an overview of one
is very important. And of course, Ukrainian
websites have been promoting these for for quite a while, but
now thanks to the web. We can read these for ourselves.
The holiday more is often dismissed as a famine that could
occur in any country. What are some other Crimes of
the Soviet Union that you can say, or actually calculated acts
of Evil by Lenin Stalin Khrushchev or anyone else?
Probably the best, one of the best examples is over a period
of roughly a decade. The collectivization of
agriculture. This was an issue, Lennon
advocated this as well. This is one of the great Crimes
of the USSR. Where people who had no
knowledge of farming or agriculture will put in charge
of essentially prison camps. Where people who didn't know,
each other, random people were forced to work.
They were given very little money for the crop and we're
always tightly under under under guard.
And this led to is one of the things of course, led to the
famine. It's one of the things that
bottomed out the Soviet economy and it was eventually abandoned,
but over a period of a few years.
When it was first introduced in the early Stone are It led to a
massive number of deaths, mental edge, of starvation, and people
simply weren't working because it wasn't worth it to work
anymore. So these are all these crimes
are connected. The early rebellions against the
Soviet government where every one of them had at least one
Massacre attached to it, you know, this goes on and on.
And again for these things collectivization was policy.
That's not any no one denies. That the fact that it was a
failure is in the primary documents to because after a
while, you know, no one disagreed but you know because
of the u.s. Thing obsession with Hitler.
This is not as widely known but collectivization and this is the
case in Mouse China to even even Pol Pot for that matter.
He's the greatest crime that was there.
Minted. I think in history.
Do you take those two countries? You have something like 40
million deaths, either starvation, or overworked,
whatever. And the worst part is that it
meant that the United States had to feed them.
Russia was feeding the world under the czar's. but when
collectivization took place, They were starving.
And of course, the US was right there, and they were always
dependent on Western food Aid and food purchases to exist.
You can't really have a cold war if you're, if you're feeding
your enemy. So for the sheer number of
deaths, I suppose could never really be pinpointed.
But I think I'm not going to even Venture a guess certainly
in the millions. But but that it's, you know,
period of time that was introduced it agriculture
collapse. You executions you have people
refusing to work and you had starvation. as far as the
massacres go, is that how they would increase power over
certain industries or groups of people by first committing in
Massacre as a show of force to intimidate everyone else, where
would these massacres take place and why you know after the
kronstadt Rebellion You had a whole bunch of these and because
I'm all over the place where and of course it's a catchy tune.
It came, it was something like the Genghis.
Khan idea or the Tamerlane idea I should say, you commit a
massacre, you're going to save lives, because no one's going to
resist after that. Yeah, often what the Soviets
would do, is there was a peasant rebellion and a lot of people
even have names. They would dress up in peasant,
garb. And start shooting and start
shooting and then turn turn on them and start shooting them.
And then commit, a terrible crime, you know?
And say if there was a certain uniform or something like that,
they did this all the time they functioned by duplicity
constantly, in this respect and propaganda eventually control
over people, propaganda is really important humiliation.
We could talk about, you know, Israel pumping pornography into
the occupied territory. The constant demoralisation of
your enemy is was extremely important.
No one did like the Soviets did. That's what the Soviet press,
you know, how they function and life in the camps.
We just talked about the gulag such turned out to be
responsible for maybe twenty percent of the Soviet economy,
even even after Stalin died and it never quite went away.
So, ethnic nationalism was something that I had to destroy.
And again, that's where the holodomor comes in.
I think it was a Novia was a few others Applebaum.
Is his real name? Made it clear that this wasn't
so much an economic matter. But worrying about a prosperous
group of farmers that did very well, very skilled.
And also had a strong nationalist Foundation.
That was the reason for their holodomor wiping out that class
was extremely important. And I'm willing to go so far as
to say that the Soviets, wouldn't worry too much about
starvation in certain places. A because, you know, it's what
they wanted and be they knew that they could rely on others
to take care of the food problem for them.
They never solve the food problem.
That was because the collectivization, the Virgin
lands program in the most southern part of the USSR where
Lance had never been tilled before, you had deportees sent
down there under favorable terms, but nowhere to store
anything. Roads that were too small or too
weak to support any kind of truck in the stupidest things.
And one of the reasons that he was overthrown, it because of
the failure of the Virgin lands program became a mockery.
And again, you have starvation who have death you have in.
This was part of the agricultural crop is coming from
here. All their plans fell apart and
that was a simple, incompetence and stupidity.
I mentioned before you have these, I got many cases.
Soften Jewish commissars sent to these areas to oversee.
These things that have no idea what agriculture is.
They don't know what they've ever been to a farm before.
So, you know, but the gulag system.
I want to just say the gulag system is your overarching crime
of the Soviet Union. You have this, this network of
camps, big part of the economy where a ridiculous number of
people were sent and is almost not quite, but almost certain
death. And was this people
indiscriminately sent to gulags or all political prisoners or
anyone who technically committed a crime?
How was it that you ended up there?
Oh, yeah. I've read a ton of stuff in
Russian concerning the gulag system and there is a tremendous
amount of disagreement in this respect.
Dozen Eaton's idea is that there was this General political
suspicion. Based on the anonymous
denunciation. That got you sent there.
Those now higher up, people who were an irritant or a threat to
the system were sent there. I'm going to make a distinction
between the gulag system. In the mental institutions.
The mental institutions came later.
And that was the basic basis of the institution was and Soviet
Psychiatry. If you could even call it that
was that opposition to the Soviet regime meant.
You must be, we would call antisocial almost schizophrenic
and you can see this even in Youth and they were experimented
on and not a whole lot of came out of it.
But again, the mental institutions or another or
another crime, but as far as a goo launcher concerned, there
was a very brief trial. The were you know terms 5-10
years the smaller term you often would come back and it was
forced labor. So of course had to be able to
do that. Usually there were some reason
for it. You're connected with someone
who's a rebel, you are a rebel yourself, you publish something.
You said something, you can't enforce 100% of course because
there's not enough men, but wherever they could find
something, one of my favorite story and solzhenitsyn mentions
and I forget where now you've written on it.
So many things that they'd be transported through the city's
in Disguise trucks. And I would say meet deliveries.
So not only were they lying about what was happening, but
people thought there's so much so much Prosperity here.
That look at the meat. Trucks are everywhere.
So the entire thing was based on deceit.
So of course there was some indiscriminate stuff, but I
don't think that was the bulk of it.
There had to be a trial and then a term assigned to it.
When it comes to what being sent to Siberia is this just an
expression or thing that actually took place and why what
other they were there were camps everywhere.
The North Sea. And some of these other places
were nasty only because they were so far north, nobody.
Do you have bitter Winters, but then you're being killed by
mosquitoes in the summer. Did you have someone standing
warm standing water Peter, the Great did that when he
constructed st. Petersburg?
He he sent Cossack powa get a group of people who hated who
had resisted him in the past to work in dig this thing out.
You had a hundred thousand deaths at a very low estimate.
So st. Petersburg was literally built
on the bones of his enemies. It was almost an occult ritual
that he defected was an occult ritual.
So this isn't a new thing. Siberia fabric, you know, the
southern part of Siberia is very beautiful.
The northern part is very difficult.
I think phone, most beautiful landscapes in the world, but
they had camps up there for various reasons, but camps were
in every part of the USSR. Looking at other crimes
committed by Communists. I'm mainly focusing on this
because there was a study came out, 29% of gen Z kids in
college, have no problem with Communism and think it's a good
idea that everything be collectively owned 17% of
professors in the social sciences say that they identify
as Marxist. Of course, the venona files come
out showing. That Joseph McCarthy was right,
there were about 300. Word and 50 communist in the
state department. The rosenbergs Harry Dexter
white, Alger Hiss Etc. So because the term communism
isn't put in front of our face. It doesn't, we forget to
register that it's actually a problem and all degrees moving
towards that is, is also an issue when it comes to why you
are an anti-communist. Why is that?
That the theory itself is absurd.
It denies the family. It denies the nation.
It denies any political system except the rule of the party.
That doesn't mean I haven't learned things from Karl, Marx
Karl Marx's early. Writings are actually very good,
the role of money money, dissolves everything, but the
destruction of national cultures, Is a part of policy,
you know, you talked about like a Soviet or Chinese Communist
Massacre. I was just doing this with the
in Vietnam concerning Vietnam that's actually part of policy.
When you other governments may do it more or less as an
aberration, but when cleansing the nation of undesirables, who
are not people in their minds becomes a part of the agenda and
it has always been a part of the agenda.
Massacres whatever it is, are are praiseworthy.
Remember Marxist are pure materials, which is another
giant problem with me. If human beings are nothing more
than flesh and motion. Then what difference does it
make if one is killed or not? So, but Marcus early writings
are very interesting. There is something to be said
about surplus-value. I'm not 100% sure about the
labor theory of value. But but that does not mean
Marxism as a system is is viable.
So, you know, it's such a struggle to deal with it.
You have such a low level of understanding.
We talking about the younger kids.
They like labels a lot. You could promote a system does
not call it Marxist their Styles and if the label isn't on it,
then that they're good, but you know the historical living among
academics historical. Level is so low, the knowledge
is so bad and it's getting worse, not to mention.
The fact that you are in a disease that economy the last
days of Empire here were no, you don't have oligarchy anymore.
You have Monopoly. And because no one knows
anything about the right-wing alternatives to capitalism
syndicalism or whatever. They simply assume that the only
possible art, alternative is Marxism.
You know, marks was again, as bakunin said, in the first
International Market, received a lot of money from the
Rothschilds and a lot of this completely destroyed other forms
of collective ownership. The Prudhoe honest.
I've always been very sympathetic to to pierre-joseph
Prudhoe, but these are very obscure, most people.
So the capitalist system is obviously failed miserably.
And that's, you can even cover that anymore.
Therefore, communism must be true and I'm willing to, I'm
willing to bet that's pretty much.
That's again, it goes propaganda, ignorant or the only
possible art. Alternative is some version of
Communism, mean, a call. It that call it something else,
but I mentioned the bakunin March thing.
He received money from the Rothschilds.
One of the things that came from that was that every other kind
of socialism. It appeared.
They were pretty much kicked out of the first International
socialism. You had a million different
versions of socialism over the over the centuries.
And and I'm told this based on the community, not in the
collective. Those are two different things.
And those were wiped out of the first International, therefore
people began to think and we're ignorant.
Begin to think that if you're anti-capitalist, therefore, you
must be a communist. What is propaganda and how can
it be identified? I'm pretty sure propaganda is a
pejorative. You know, when you are a
government or ruling class. That has no right to rule.
Your only option is to manipulate people getting them
to think that you have a right to rule or that whatever you're
doing is in their best interest or the final manifestation of
historical cycle or the apogee of Justice.
And so you have to control the press and such a way that they
begin. Not just writing this in at
Orioles, but picking stories and ideas and talking about them
with that in mind. Because people work all the time
and they have kids. And if they don't, they don't
have a lot of time to think critically about this Americans,
especially, don't think systematically.
They know, a few sound bites. They know a few slogans.
And it's not, you know, politics for them is like rooting for the
Steelers. So, what the second part of your
question, what is propaganda? And what, and how can it be
identified? Yeah, you know, it's simple,
special pleading. It can be identified because
usually Propaganda in its purest, form doesn't make a
whole lot of sense, you know? Special pleading is the idea
that because yourself interested you have to set up a double
standard and, you know, propaganda tends to have a
pretty in America. It has a pretty uniform
structure. They use a lot of vague words, a
lot of slogans, a lot of repetition, a lot of pointing to
Authority. They claim that they're somehow
Rebels. And when you have the music
industry publishing Academia, not every every institution
concerning Communications in the country, saying the same thing.
It's pretty remarkable. But the assumptions, the
sloganeering and the lack of cui Bono.
Been saying for a long time. What the way you can identify
this is that they never give a reason.
I think about the so-called concentration camps in western
China, which I have a paper on. No one has ever explained.
Why the heck? They're doing that. /.
How is it in their interest? They're trying to build up the
economy of that part of the world.
It's very desolate and so-called concentration camps are in fact,
education center. They desperately need the
there's a whole policy. The equal is equal lives in the
western part to the eastern part and to resettle people out
there, the think that given that policy, they have any interest
in causing, you know, violent Warfare death is absurd.
And you can say this for a lot of places.
What, what is it? How is this regime, whatever
government you're talking about? What is our interest in doing
this? Why in Heaven's name?
Are they spending so much resources, putting so much
resources to destroying a certain group of people, or
whatever the with a claim in and propaganda.
Often will never give you that or they'll give it in in a very
vague way. It's significant that Karl Marx.
Never described. What a communist society would
look like at its final stage. Everything was critical of what
was almost everything was critical of, what was the
anarchist? Didn't do that.
So a lot of vague sloganeering the use of buzzwords.
Weak arguments, the lack of cui Bono logical, inconsistencies
and uniformity with other people in that field.
That's a pretty quick and easy way to, to recognize propaganda
and amateurism in the field. I've always said that in, you
can always spot an Indian historical question.
You can always spot an amateur when they start using modern
Western terms to describe a an old, Much older Society.
So someone talking about human rights when they're talking
about Plato like Allan Bloom. Did you have to laugh?
You can't hold them to that stay.
They had no concept of what that would be.
So that's this one quick example of how and it's a propaganda.
Although, in a historical sense. I could spot it without it.
Yeah, even things like phony quotes.
I can spot a phony quote, right? Right off the bat.
And it usually is that someone is condemning themselves.
So the quote about London, that lending the saying I'm going to
kill everybody. I'm gonna hang babies in Great
Britain. Our party is to destroy to
destroy civilization. You know, stuff like that.
And you know, they're not going to say that about themselves.
They're not going to condemn themselves.
They're going to say that they are the apogee of History.
Lenin does say, he has to cleanse Society, but only with,
you know, the best interest in mind.
No one is going to admit that there's going to hang people for
no reason and that, or whole party this, you know, death and
destruction. That's what we're here for.
But phony quotes from lens, Stone Hitler.
They all day. They say the same thing, and
it's really easy to identify some That would never say
something. It doesn't make any sense.
That's when your expert propagandist, they'll never say.
So that's how you could but. That's just one other example,
the phony quotes I've got so many of these things that
circulate on the web quotations that they use tribute to people.
So many of them are false and I don't know why people can
identify the fact that no one is going to condemn themselves in
front of others. So so that's that's the issue
here. You wrote a paper and I had
trouble finding which paper this was from.
But you spoke about the importance of tradition and far
from being something that just idiots do and is unnecessary and
something we should throw out and replace with pure logic.
There actually is a good reason to embrace tradition and a large
utility in doing. So why is tradition important?
Well, tradition isn't some arbitrary set of practice it.
Traditions concerning the family, for example, these are a
part of natural law. A man and woman, the extended
family living Under One Roof, the tight-knit community of a
family and all of the rituals that go along with it.
This is a part of natural law. Only in modern societies.
Have they tried to destroy the Soviet Union one of the first
tradition among other things is. What works?
What's worked in the past? What people have gotten used to
their? Not an institution isn't
tradition, but practices within the institution, are our
tradition and the Orthodox Church.
For example, the claim is made that tradition is the unwritten.
Doctrines of Christ. And the apostles, the unwritten
doctrines that or even even those that are written in
obscure because only so much you can fit on a page and tradition
is one of the touchstones of truth.
If you could trace it back to the to the apostolic era or
thereabouts. So, tradition makes is an
alienation is based on a traditions and customs
encapsulated in language. These are structures of
survival. They didn't come from nothing.
And they came from struggle. They came from foreign
occupation suffering. Starvation.
Traditions didn't come from nowhere.
They are protective shield for population.
And is that why the Communists? And tyrants of any flavor if we
only call them communist? We're only going to be looking
for them. So tyrants of any flavor, hating
tradition and hating the family structure, because they see it
as a competing Allegiance. They see it as a hurdle.
You getting them to have this sort of Monopoly on Authority
within a certain region. When we Elizabeth.
The first was colonizing Ireland, especially in the
northern part. She made it very clear.
It's actually her exact quote was.
We're going to make sure that this generation has no idea what
the who the grandparents were. And she began a campaign of
burning, and torching monastic, libraries, and any possible
written source of of identity. Therefore, there's no foundation
for Rebellion. Peter, the Great.
Created this myth that Russia before him was ignorant and
illiterate and he said on a campaign to destroy the annals
of the noble families throughout the country.
Which is, which were a huge source of local history.
And he did a very good job of that.
And the point is to make people ignorant about who they are, and
he was a revolutionary and soul. So yeah, I agree though, with
one of the, one of the marks of a tyrant, a true Tyrant is their
hatred of any kind of competing ideologies turning, any kind of
competing institution. So I think your instincts are
perfect in that. Capitalism do is exactly the
same way. Coca-Cola goes into a place like
Indonesia and does everything in its power.
This is actually the book about this to destroy the tea industry
and they ran advertisements and they had things put into TV,
shows something that T is for a lady's, you're not strong, and
not manly, whatever it is. If you're drinking that stuff,
Coke is what you want to do. They went out of their way to
make tea drinking. Effeminate to destroy Nate, they
almost succeeded. So, again, that's a very minor
tradition of tea drinking, but it wasn't minor for Coke.
I'm not sure how successful that was but you have internal
document. That was actually Benjamin.
Barber is Jihad versus make world that story at first read
there. So competing ideas competing
institutions have to go remember the family centuries ago, wasn't
the nuclear family. That's a creation of the 1950.
The family was a with the extended family will talk about
hundreds of people. You don't have the mobile
Society like you had now. The Serbian numb, but evil,
Serbian unit of society was this family and hundreds and hundreds
of people, it would include. Of course, obviously involves
were included. But also servants, anyone who
works for you and you were treated all pretty much in the
same way under a, under a patriarchal head.
So, we talk about things like the family and the institution
to go along with it. All right.
Sorry the Traditions that go along with it.
Remember what they meant. And which is I'm glad I
mentioned that because it did remind me of a very important
idea words today. And this has been a big multi
Crusade of mine. Don't mean what they meant a
hundred years ago, weather trends wife's and other ones.
And I've seen this before, a family, is that classic example
of is. Another example law is.
Another example politics is another example.
Words have been so mangled today that to take that mangled
definition and to read it back. Centuries ago is assure a route
to error and family is one of them.
You weren't talking about, you weren't talking about and
everything was communal. Everything was about social
belonging. You don't have the isolated
individual in the basement, like you have today.
None of that existed in previous centuries.
So taking these words. And using them for earlier
civilizations is again a sign of amateurism May well be a
identifying marker propaganda? Because again, going back to
that question propaganda is false again.
It's a yard, you can't have positive propaganda, you know,
it's like can't have loving loving rape, you know, it's by
definition of battery. So unless we again, so these are
some of your marks for that and we could, we could talk for
hours on that question. Speaking of words that have
different meanings, the type of capitalism that I would support
would be defined from a PhD from Lost University of Las Vegas,
Nevada Hans Hapa in his book, a theory of socialism and
capitalism, and he says we can have two sorts of approaches to
things. We could have communism the
abolition of private property socialism.
The institutionalized aggression against private property.
Or capitalism the institutionalized recognition or
a social system based on the explicit recognition of private
property and non-aggressive, contracts between individuals
and private property owners. Wouldn't you say capitalism?
What are you referring to? Well, capitalism is and I think
I'm pretty sure. Karl Marx coined the term means
the rule of capital. It does not mean the free
market. Yeah, and again, even the free
market I have issues with, but capitalism is the rule of
Corporation, especially banks, that create the market rather
than satisfied. They can get away with paying
low wages. They are they are at War almost
with their community. And the concept is is that you
privatize profits and externalized costs.
And if there's anything that defines the capitalism of today,
it would be that. But it's in the interests of
corporate America to do these things.
It's in the self-interest of corporate America to have their
people in the FDA. Or anywhere.
I mean a defense industry is heavily represented in the
Pentagon in uniform and if they retire they go off and work for
Boeing. It's in their interest to do
that. So I don't believe it's an
aberration. But these companies that have
grown that strong. Know how to protect themselves.
And this is what they do. It's hard today to talk about
the distinction between government and the private
sector because it really doesn't exist.
It's an outmoded idea. When you have first of all,
government agencies, privatized all over the place, having
contractors. On the other hand, having this
revolving door between the public and private sector.
You know, so Facebook and Great Britain hired a group of former
Facebook Executives. Sorry Executives in there and
their version of the FCC to sit on their board.
So they knew exactly what they had to do to get their way.
And this happens, you know, BlackRock, of course an extreme
example where the central banks of the major central banks of
the world. They at least have one
representative of the BlackRock board and That's when you know,
it's a monopoly, you can't get any stronger than that.
So it's in their interest to do these things.
So it's really difficult for us to even talk about the
difference between the state, the state apparatus, and the
private sector. They've grown so powerful that
that you can't tell them apart. And the debt that the u.s.
Is in is such that they need to privatize these things.
It's almost like the sale of officers and he can Century
France. So, but I don't think that's an
aberration. I think I think, you know,
capitalism has a natural course. And and that's really what it
is. So if you want to maintain the
reign of small business workers control, you have to have laws
that keep that from happening. And hope is someone who I've
read. I don't remember that.
I read it so long ago, but so that's why I would come down on
that. The free market has tremendous
benefits. I'm not so sure it exists in
most places anymore. Let's get into the Holocaust.
I want to Define that term so we know we're talking about the
same thing. The three pillars that I think
are necessary to know what we're talking about.
Is one the Holocaust means a plan to exterminate European
jewelry by the National Socialist regime in Germany, 26
million deaths, took place three, these were intentional.
That's primarily using gas Chambers as a method of
execution. So using that term in those
ways. I'm going to try and steal man.
The case for why I do say that the Holocaust is something that
that happened. I think the original
justification, of course, was referred to as the evaru
agreement or the transfer agreement, which was expulsion
from Of Jews out of Europe and into places in Madagascar.
There was also an alliance with Zionist where they had the same
exact interest getting Jews out of Europe.
So one of the first things that I think got this Holocaust
operation moving was having millions of Jews under National
Socialist control during the war.
Say, 1942 era Nazi saw them as an enemy security.
Risk taking up the scarce resources.
In a time of War 1942, you have Operation, Reinhard trains
arriving at belzec sobibor and Treblinka roughly 2.4 million
Jews. Altogether, six hundred thousand
Russian Jews, 1.8 million Jews. I believe the inability to
account for where vels Jews were after the war is an example that
we have of them. Actually getting killed.
When it comes to evidence from gurbles, I have is Diary March
27. 1942, he said, sixty percent of Europe's Jews have been
liquidated on December 12th. 1942 grbl says, we already have
to answer for some things. If we do not want to run the
risk of gradually becoming discovered, October 7th, 1943.
He says, beginning in February 24, I'm sorry garbles begins to
speak of the Jewish, question in the past tense as something that
is behind them. So originally the thesis was,
well, they just had to Terminate enemies of the Empire.
They were security risk, they could have revolted and weekend,
Nazi power in Europe, but then they just needed the labor force
because things were not going as successful as they wanted to on
the Eastern Front. Next piece of evidence.
I have in 1943. I have the core report.
Himmler received the statistical report.
He commissioned from SS Master esthetician.
Dr. Richard core core referred to this as a final extended
report Himmler. Or had wanted the report at the
beginning of 1943 and core represented him with the first
provisional report on March 23rd asking for a few more months
until July to present the final extended report.
The figure he came up with was two million, four hundred
nineteen thousand six hundred and fifty-six, 1.7 killed in
extermination camps and six hundred and thirty three
thousand on the Eastern Front. Finally.
We have Himmler. Saying in May 24 1944.
I believe gentleman that you know me, well, enough to realize
I am not a bloodthirsty man or a man who takes pleasure or find
sport in the harsher things. He must do.
When I recognize the necessity of something.
I will do it unflinchingly as to the Jewish women and children.
I did not believe I had the right to let these children grow
up to become Avengers who would kill our fathers and
grandchildren that's according to Routledge history of The
Holocaust. Finally Himmler says, I am
convinced that things would look Bleak for the front that have
been built up to the east of the general occupied Poland.
If we had not resolved, the Jewish problem there.
If, for example, the ghetto in Lublin or the massive ghetto, in
Warsaw with its 500,000, inhabitants were still in
existence. So we have core saying that
these Jews were dispatched, op gong by a special treatment in
the Eastern camps and are now Toad has fallen to the tune of
2.4 million. We have gerbils implying that
they need to be killed. We have Himmler saying that it
took place. We have korres report after we
also have a large scale revolts in Treblinka and sobibor when it
said that those are being shut down, that is an indicator that
those Jews responded uniquely because they knew that they were
next in line because they were no longer useful for labor.
So, So my biggest point is the missing Jews of Operation.
Reinhard. Thank you for letting me go on
that. That is really all I have to say
on the topic as to my why I have my current position.
What is your response to this? Well, I appreciate it.
And I have no problem listening to that.
I've come across this before. Michael Shermer and a few
others. Thank God.
This is not a big area for me. I have nothing published on the
question. But of course, working for the
bond review. I came across and I read most of
these reports. The years.
I think we both watch the David Cole presentation saying a lot
of these same things. I think I think Cole estimates 2
million as a final death count, which makes them, you know,
pretty well off compared to the Belarus ins or the Russians.
And that sense. There's a few things to say,
some of these reports have been criticized.
I'm not there, not authentic, but they're distort.
I'm going to say that Himmler is probably your best bet.
Himmler and both week, I would think the Posen speech is what
you were referring to. He made two of them where it was
almost a bloodthirsty idea. But Himmler was like that.
Well, people don't get in an East, you're trying just like
the ghettos and everything else you're talking about, an armed
partisan population. Not talking about, you know,
children and playground in the East especially the German High
command always talked about. These partisans is a huge part
of the especially, you know, when the Posen speeches were
made and what was pretty much over and overwhelmingly.
They were of Jewish background. Overwhelmingly, the political
commissars in the Soviet Army were of Jewish background.
You're right to talk about the significant curity threat idea.
You're also right to bring up the Vara and ring.
So I take a moderate position in this respect.
My Uncle Mike one of my big problems with the Holocaust in
general. It's called the Holocaust.
As if they're the only ones that make any difference, you had
Slaughters all over the place. Deliberate Slaughters based on
race or ethnicity. This was just one of many.
I don't believe in the death camps.
I think that, I mean, sorry, the gas Chambers.
I think that's been pretty much despatched by now, zyklon, B
would be very ineffective in that respect.
The analysis of the the fact that the u.s.
Couldn't even get to I'll switch, that was a Soviet
construction, you know, so there's definitely problems.
The Six Million figure is, is an exaggeration.
Like, the six percent figure is an exaggeration.
Some of these, you know, I've come across these reports one
time or another. The only one that I really would
take, seriously, would be him one.
And Himmler is talking about the Eastern Front.
He's talking about reasons for, and he made these speeches,
especially the 40 41. He made these speeches in the
face of military defeat. You knew what was happening.
There. Were privately talking about the
absolute crisis of the Eastern Front.
But the camps were largely self-governed.
The right didn't have the resources, especially in 44 45,
and I think it was the dean of Holocaust studies who I'm
blanking on his name right now. To come to me, you made the
claim that the killings occurred in 4445 at a time of extreme
crisis. So, many of the numbers.
That are purported to be from this Holocaust.
Come from starvation. It comes from the fact that the
Allies had bombed supply lines touch it.
Even German soldiers weren't getting that weren't getting
fed. There's a big debate over how
the off switch camp. For example, was organized.
They did have their own currency.
They did work. So many the Survivor stories are
contradictory. Many of them have been exposed
as fraudulent. This Is War time.
We don't really know what it's like to be.
That's why on the losing side of a war and having to wrap rally,
your men. I know.
It's pretty commonly accepted that in the East, the partisans
played a huge role in the German defeat.
But I remember even as a young man, I said, I can't believe
that Hitler would spend the tremendous resources necessary
to create these camps with millions of people when he had
nothing. When, you know, they, they
weren't feeding Soldiers. The fuel had had almost run out.
He's gonna spend money on that, but they were security threat.
They were hemmed in on both. The Soviets to the east, of
course, the German lines to the West, they were attached to the
partisan unit, even even in the Warsaw Ghetto.
So, these were armed communities, the pogroms of the
same way these worked, you know, did not they're not as some
people are armed. There's some of them were
trained in the Jewish combat Brigade, things like this.
They did put up an impressive fight.
But after the war, when reparations were offered the
number early on the number that came to claim them was 9
million. But the the number of Jews even
within this sphere of influence was certainly less than six
million. And I think David Cole and we
will agree on that. Respect but like Cole.
And like a few others, the political use of the Holocaust
is really my big issue. And that this is a way to
delegitimize social nationalism because they're allegedly a part
of this. And therefore, the only two
options in the world at the time were liberalism and communism,
which is exactly what happened after after the war.
The establishment of Israel, had a lot to do with the Holocaust.
So there's a lot of problems with the feasts.
There's a lot of problems with this.
Incredibly meticulous mass-produced, death machine and
an Empire that was dying. It simply didn't have the
resources to do this. Ultimately, I believe that if
you were to ask, if we could resurrect a national socialist
Minister today and ask, why are these here?
Why are these camps here? They would say because Judaism
especially in the Soviet Union is heavily.
I'm sorry. Communism in the Soviet Union is
heavily Jewish. You have a tremendous amount of
sympathy to the USSR amongst the Jewish population of drumming on
certainly true. So and that was that was the
issue. A lot of the deaf.
Both came from starvation. As I said, Germany was not
prepared for that War. I Germany didn't even have
long-range bombers or heavy tanks.
They invaded the USSR. It was almost a sacrificed
Mission. Romanian was her only source.
But 1941, there were already. Berlin was already being bombed
by the British. They were using mostly light
tanks. They had there was no chance of
them occupying. The u.s.
Is on the Icebreaker book was a brilliant analysis of this.
His military was not all that strong.
He had talented Commanders. But so, and this is, this is a
huge part of part of the issue. Have this massive Invasion and
even the East is really where I'm more comfortable.
Anyway, it wasn't an again, a security issue.
The Germans simply didn't have the resources.
To engage in something like this, the camp, certainly
existed, but starvation on a court disease, typhus, which
also is connected to starvation, is responsible for these deaths
but there's nothing separating the Jews from a lot of other
people in that respect. It was a, you know, he again,
because he the u.s. Blocked immigration.
The have our agreement and was controlled by Britain and Middle
East was controlled by, Britain was blocked there.
And of course, the Madagascar issue, It was French colony and
they had taken friends. So again, they were willing to
and these agreements Jews could leave, which was a Zionist
issue. I think we talked about this,
the last time. If I'm not mistaken, it was
someone I do. So many of these, I can never
remember how our agreement comes up.
Quite a bit that I've seen a coin from that they were.
It was a, it was a currency used for this as a swastika and one
side and star David on the other.
And of course, you currency in the in the camps as well.
I've got four, I lost my train of thought we were, these
transfers were the first solution.
And camps. I guess we're the final, but I
don't think they were meant to kill anybody that were meant for
labor. And, but God, even as early as
43, the war was over. The luftwaffe had had been had
been broken the advance in the Soviet Union was stalled and
there was no Hope of Victory. The Soviets were overwhelmingly
more powerful than the Germans and the minute.
They took Romania. That's it.
The Germans are cut off from fuel.
That's why they tried to invent a plane that ran on coal.
And that's the context for for lot of this, especially in the
East now, no one's going to accept or Justify or do any
special pleading for the killing of women and children,
especially they're not combatants by the combatants in
the Eastern Front often didn't wear uniforms.
And that case, that would not be protected by international law.
The Guerrilla Army has to have uniform and chain of command.
A lot of these groups did not. So, I don't know how many, where
these numbers are coming from what they're basing.
It on trying to look important. But when you have 9 million
Jews, applying for benefits, at the end of the war, you have a
bit of a problem. But ultimately, I think it comes
down to labor and security. And finally deaths were from,
again, overwhelmingly from starvation and typhus when it
comes to the gas chamber discussion, I think his name is
Fran, check Piper. The guy who was director of the
Holocaust Museum in David Cole's, first documentary and
the 90s with Ernst zündel, where he had said that.
What you see when you go to Auschwitz, is actually a Soviet
reconstruction of what was previously there.
But so beaten down that the Soviets chose to build it back
up in order to preserve its historical Integrity.
Are you saying that that is completely fake?
And it's a story that was told as atrocity propaganda by the
Soviets. Actually, well, of course the
camp existed. But it was colds analysis of
that years and years ago. That was really my first
probably, the very first piece of of information concerning the
revisionist point of view of the Holocaust.
When you have walls that have no bullet holes in them.
When you have two different kinds of architecture.
When you have chimneys that are just almost laid on the top, the
Soviets had. Every reason in the world to
push all their atrocities onto onto the Germans.
They were an easy target that were low hanging fruit.
That Captain Massacre is one of the most obvious examples and
it's all about propaganda and public opinion.
So, the Soviets had an interest in doing them.
Boy, the guy who makes the plaque at Auschwitz, you know,
it's got to be a millionaire because every couple of weeks.
There's a new number used to be every day.
I used to be something like 4 million.
Now, it's down to, I don't even know what it's down to them.
The numbers, keep shrinking, and shrinking and shrinking, which
you would have, you would think that you should be happy for ya.
I never understood that they became such a part of the
identity that I don't understand, you know, they
should be happy that the numbers aren't that high compared with
others. But you know, as far as a juicer
concerned that were not the only threat to the German Empire that
we're not the only people in the camps what made them special was
their wealth? And the fact that they were
tremendously sympathetic to the USSR.
Don't forget, Germany, lost a part of its territory in the
Bavarian People's Republic for a while.
It was entirely Jewish, the Hungarian, People's Republic was
exclusively. It was said that the upper
levels. In fact, Stalin even said to
Béla Kun through name was Cohen. Said okay.
Every single person is cabinet is a Jew.
Please find someone who's not and make him president and it
took a very long time. Again.
I'm like know, the name here, the man who became president of
hungry. He's the one who made the
speech. So there was some good reason.
For him to be very suspicious. But and of course, A desperate
need for labor. But by 4445, where most of the
deaths were concerned, the war was pretty much over the network
of supplies had broken down or I'll was nothing.
You had a handful of bring it to get very few guards.
At these places. These are all self government.
Every man had to be at the front and you know, Mass Slaughter
doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
They were meant to work. I think I'll switch initially
was a synthetic fuel plan. And you know, but yeah the
crimes against them are those crimes against everybody
especially against Germany at the end of the war.
It's one of many as I started off with the Holocaust.
Always irritated me. There's nothing special about
this. There was no organized drive to
gas every Jew in the world. It was near the end with result
of starvation and panic and we all know what happened to the
Nuremberg trials. We know the torture.
We know that people were were made to say things.
They had to Hermann. Goering is one of my favorites.
And so that's work. That's already really what it
comes down to and what it during say, at Nuremberg.
Okay, that's ready to read it. A few minutes ago.
Goring said something similar to Gold and the time, you know, he
wasn't sure what awaited him. A lot of these guys.
Thought it mitting, things would get them.
A lighter sentence and it was never the case Rudolf höss.
The same way. The minute Rudolf hoess.
The guy get one of the commandant of Auschwitz sign
that document. He rejected it.
He signed this document saying yes, I saw all these gas things
and everything else things that didn't make any sense like, you
know, guessing opening the door and then putting more people in
It takes 20 hours for zyklon B, to be able to be out of the area
and make it safe. And these guys had no gloves or
anything else. You sign this, he didn't get the
the sentence he thought. And then repudiated.
So I would never, I would never take anything that comes from
nurnberg as a. I wouldn't take it.
Seriously, I would never take it at face value.
And how did this six million gas chamber?
Plan to exterminate. How did this ball get rolling?
What do you mean? I don't think it was a plan.
What do you talk about? I mean, how did it look?
Let's say that. What we're dealing with here is
a historical fabrication. How did what is the origin of
this gas chamber, extermination line?
How did it start? That's that's a very good
question. It's very hard to answer.
I think it does start in the USSR.
It took a while for this in the Holocaust, was not a common word
until the 60s. Really until after the Six-Day
War, it began to be promoted before them returning, jian's
talked about the mass starvation, the bodies that they
found and although the concept of this mask gassing had been
around from the very end of the war.
It didn't become a matter of Popular parlance until several
decades. Later.
So now I'm going to do have Soviet propaganda and Soviet
papers being written on this very problem.
That was was big into this but also the survivors And again,
it's just one group of people. I do not take seriously, the
survivors of these camps. Everyone tells a different
story. Everyone's a hero.
Everyone did tremendous things. We need such a badge of honor
for these people that you, of course.
They have a slight defectors from North Korea.
They have every reason in the world to accentuate their
important. So it wasn't instant.
It took quite a while for this to get a ball rolling as, as you
would say Nuremberg, of course, was just the first step.
Up, but people didn't realize just how bad nürnberg was from a
legal point of view, how so many of the admissions there were
false or done under duress, or done her.
Some kind of promise or simply from from Panic or mental
illness. Is one of the reasons that the
Soviets were able to take that and increase it and the 6
million I think is a significant figure.
In the Kabbalah. The number 6 is always been
significant and I think the very first time the Six Million
figure was used during the pogroms in the late 19th
century. The earliest I could find the
Pittsburgh Jewish news mentioned six million killed in the
kitchen. If program I'm almost certain
about that 6 million in the Soviet.
I'm sorry in the Russian Empire comes up again and again and
again either killed or imprisoned.
So the Six Million figure was also used after World War One.
I can't, I don't have the citation on off the top of my
head. But I have an entire list of
usage of the word of the phrase, six million, going back to, at
least the end of the 19th century.
So, you know, Jews are very powerful in media do specially
after the foundation of Israel, had an interest in this always
had an interest in this, the Allies had an interest in this.
The Allies, you know, carpet-bombed, Germany and
Japan. They could have surrendered in
1943 but Roosevelt wanted Total War and abject surrender, which
led to mass deaths. I wonder if that didn't happen.
What would have happened to the camps?
So it's not hard for this to get off the ground when you have a
so many people. So many powerful people who have
an interest in promoting making the Germans look, terrible.
This is oral or one case to making the Germans look terrible
Justified. Everything that They did, you
got to automatique bombs on Japan.
You had the torching of cities sometimes of no military value.
You had the mass killing to PO, wff pows after the war.
The sinking of ships with German refugees on it is it, you know,
and when you when that's happening need to justify it.
And a lot of these camp stories, so that's that.
That's the list of things, you know, survivors media Soviets
the allies and this belief that somehow when you see it pile
bodies, there was somehow murdered on purpose rather than
starve door or died of some disease and I still World War
Two vets used to say that all the time and they went into the
other camps. This will be of interest.
I'm going to say is the most powerful and I think they got
the ball rolling but not until the 60s.
Becoming a common thing when I think of other historical lies,
one of the ones that it's amazing.
The power that lies can have when they're just Omission lies
that it was never explicitly. Said to me, Germany started the
bombing, but it was so heavily implied that I just always
assumed it. Until I read people like
Nicholson Baker, his book, human smoke until I read Pat
Buchanan's Churchill Hitler in the unnecessary War where he
cites Frederick, Lindemann. Who was a an advisor to
Churchill in the scientific area, where he was very Pro
bombing, civilian areas to hit the morale of people in Germany,
and Baker, in human smoke just list off all the German cities
that had been bomb before there was ever a bomb dropped on
Britain. So so so many lives are not
explicit. There's just heavily nudged and
implied yesterday. There was one Bob Bloom.
Argh. Oh gosh.
It was one of the Bloomberg Outlets.
They said here are here's a list of, you know, people who died at
the January. 6th, quote Insurrection.
First, Brian sick. Nick is an officer who died
after getting in a fight. What they don't tell you is he
had gone to the hospital and later had a stroke.
The next day. He was in horrible condition.
They don't mention, of course, that there was a drug overdose
and out of the, you know, hundreds of thousands of people.
All that were quote involved, some diet of unrelated causes.
So the fact that we're living through explicit lies like this,
or if you remember Trump saying the whole white National saying
that, but there were fine people on both sides.
He was referring to the Statue debate, not find people on both
sides of the, you know, klansmen, antifa debacle.
We see these in real time. There was one that said, Donald
Trump told people to Drink bleach when he was talking about
using disinfectant light as a method of killing a virus, which
is an actual thing. So, we have real examples in,
you know, twenty twenty. One of many people buying into
explicit lies. What are some other big
historical lies outside of the second world war?
Oh my god. Do you have seven hours?
I do you have you have 10 hours? Uh, oh not for you.
Yeah, of course. Yes.
I have a paper on the. Well, there's I have papers on
everything, my God. I already mentioned the military
dictators of Latin America. The left has had a Stranglehold
on that narrative largely, because the Catholic church is
on their side for decades. I can, I was barely able to find
anything in Spanish or in English.
That gave a positive review. Of any of these guns, Pinochet
was one exception because he's well known.
They claim is, is that these people had no etiology.
There were simply out for power. That's not true that they serve
the landlord class, which most certainly is not true.
And that there were supported by the United States.
Not only isn't true, you know, even people like Batista.
We're popular in Cuba. Most of these guys are military
dictatorship develops because the civilian government
collapses and it collapses because they can't come to any
consensus on what to do about the Usually, it's some kind of
hyperinflation or mass unemployment or recovery from
something and the usually wealthy people bickering and
nothing gets done. The minute a military man takes
action. So one of these guys are from
the lower classes from The Peasant classes, they become
very popular and they tend in certain most places to get the
job done very well. You know, the military took over
for this every country in Latin America one time or another for
this because the Communists were bombing people in the street
that they were torching police station, and whether you have
the drug money mixed into that and when the military was
overthrown, then you had these banana republics connected with
the IMF taking over and then they fall deeper and deeper into
into poverty. So that's that's a big one for
me. You know, really if you want to
talk about all the lies of the other ruling class.
It's my my brain freezes. I'm going to tell you that
everything and I mean everything that the average educated
American believes about the world was false.
So let's let's take a an example of a fake testimony in the early
90s in Desert Storm. There was a woman called the
Nigerian naira the nurse from Kuwait who had said on TV.
It's recorded. You can see her crying that.
While she was in Kuwait. The Iraqi Army came in took the
babies out of the incubators and left them to die in the cold
floor. This was repeated by President
of America, George Bush senior, at the time.
Also, by a number of Senators. This is an example of atrocity
propaganda because it turns out an organization Hill and
Knowlton had worked with the US ambassador to Kuwait.
And that was his daughter. This woman was not a nurse in
Kuwait. So if we could fall for a scam
in the 90s, when there's a lot more, when there's more people
with more access to TVs, who could maybe counteracts.
Of narrative like that. It's not too unreal to think
that lies like that can go widespread.
I'm trying to think 09:11 had something to do with invading
Afghanistan. That was one because there was a
plan to invade Afghanistan called National Security,
Presidential Directive 9, I think on September 4th 2001,
which was mentioned by Donald Rumsfeld and is March 23 2004
testimony to Congress So the plan was already in action
people just That they did it because of 9/11.
But what are what are some other ones?
Because I really want to nail this, I really want to nail this
down that there are widespread wide believed historical lies
that are false and they're, you know, they're specially when the
cost of rejecting them as hi. Yeah.
This is one of the reasons that they get maintained.
I mean, there's really no end to them.
Excuse me the gas attack. In Syria a few years ago, which
was The Economist a dog whistle for everyone to hate Assad
there. Now.
I never felt like I was in college when that incubator
story came out I didn't fall for it.
How many men specially family men in uniform are just going to
do that? They're Muslim babies.
It didn't make any sense to me. They didn't serve their
interest. There was no cui Bono of it.
But the gas attack in Syria. I think I was the first person
to write about that right after it happened because he was
winning the war with time. This was before the Russian
intervention. He was winning the war handling.
And so again, the question always comes up is cui Bono.
What, what, what's in it for him, knowing full, well, or
these these assassination attempt to Putin, allegedly does
with his enemy. These people know full well that
if they were to pull this stuff off, they would be condemned
crucified. And and under attack
immediately. That would give the
justification. For all the policy that the West
has against these places. Bashar al-assad knew that if he
actually were to use poison gas, which by the way, the rebels
did. But I forget what year off, the
top of my head. It was very crudely, made
missile that had gas in. It allegedly had gas in it.
He knew that the West would be on him.
It would just maybe even an invasion.
And would destroy him in the international Arena.
He has every reason not to do that.
And we talked about propaganda, took that all these things.
These are some of the marks, the incubator story at some time.
I knew it was ridiculous. My father, who was a, who died
19 years ago today, who was a combat Marine in Korea.
He said, I refuse to believe that Soldier.
With families at home are going to just kill other.
Muslims are babies for no reason.
It was blatant. Propagate was crude in that
sense. Very crude.
Propaganda. Propaganda, couldn't be more
subtle can be crude. So you really just never ends.
There really is. Especially now, you know what
Johnson's law is this dovetails? Just exactly what we're talking
about. I don't know if I'll be talked
about it, the last time Johnson's law, which I named her
after myself, of course. That the more obscure the
country or region, the more the system can lie about it because
it's very few, people who know any better or alternatively, the
more obscure the country, the more that journalists will make
mistakes about it and not realize that they're making it,
we're not even care. They are North Korea, is your
classic example, no one's allowed there.
The Defector stories are awful, you know, no one's pouring
molten lead in prison and down their throat and ridiculous
stories people don't realize they're being paid.
So again, these are also marks of of propaganda.
Anyway, as far as this is concerned, you know, propaganda
manipulation Machiavelli is all. It's all one in the same thing.
Exactly what we're talking about here.
If you could try and think of one more lie, try going to the
first world war try and think of one others that come to mind for
me during the attack on the Waco, on the church.
And Waco, Janet, Reno said, babies were being beaten.
No, such thing was taking place during Libya the invasion in
the, under Obama Wolf, Blitzer on CN.
N said, Gaddafi is giving is true.
Oops, Viagra to commit Mass rape.
The New York Times, said that Russia and Putin were paying to
assassinate American troops and even see in Afghanistan.
Yeah, ABC's showed footage footage.
So this is proof so we know it happened of Assad or gosh who
was it. If they had said that Assad was
indiscriminately killing the Kurds, I believe it was it.
I don't think it was harder one. I'm pretty sure it had to have
been At the time and they said here's the footage and it turns
out it was the footage from a Kentucky gun range that pass
that ABC had used instead. Now, think of first of all
blatant lie that tugs at your heartstrings, you think you're
seeing something that you're not actually seeing and imagine like
the likelihood that someone saw those flames and said, I think
ABC's lying those Flames look familiar.
Are who would have thought that it's just so unbelievable that
they almost got away with that and that easily could have
started a World War no-fly zone in Syria because of them,
killing the troops. That's Russian airspace.
And that's war with Russia regime change for the Putin
Administration. So, this is how bad the lies are
in this year, with social media, the internet, all these TV
stations, so it'll just drive you crazy.
Give me. One more historical.
I may preferably around the first world war, but anything
will do, oh, well, what immediately came to mind?
Even the beginning of this program was Isis?
again, I was the first one to rip apart, this ridiculous story
that somehow out of nowhere, a gigantic army with a rational
chain of command and tons of money and uniforms and
standardized equipment, and a prison system, and a currency,
not to mention tankers to ship Oil, Spring up overnight without
anyone noticing They never attack Israel.
They never attack American targets.
They only attack enemies and the syrians have said this the
Iranians say this all the time. They murdered soleimani two
years ago. It was at the almost.
You know, Isis was the main beneficiary of that because he
was formulating a plan to destroy them.
The Taliban are perpetually at war with ISIS.
And they all say, the same thing.
This is this comes from and Russians.
Due to, this is an American creation.
This comes from American intelligent.
People don't realize that every penny that goes into a bank
account in that part of the world, especially if there's
any, you know, suspicions about them is is monitor.
Do you have satellites monitoring this place every
square inch of this place? All the time?
Their camps are out in the open? They trained out in the open.
There's no way this could have formed without anyone noticing.
It's absolutely absurd. Then as they're being supported
by the West, the craziest, most vicious stories are circulating
again, always, including babies rapes that they're engaged in.
Even the name, the things that struck me was the name Isis.
First of all, the s is like in snake.
It's a typical me man in Hollywood.
The S is used. Isis is, you know, kind of an
obscure occult idea. Not to mention in English, the
pronunciation of a pagan Goddess of Egypt, which no muslim,
whatever call themselves and it's a typical.
There's an Isis. I can't remember.
Think it's an Archer. One of the bad organization is
called Isis. I forget which one.
It's your Classic Hollywood, bad guy named, and it sounds evil,
and this formulated and, and created a thing of massive.
Almost, a country was formed. Just at the time when Americans
were growing, weary of the war in Afghanistan or in the Middle
East, in general. And the most ridiculous story of
a slave markets and everything. They came up with were designed
to inflame the Americans. We need to go and fight.
These people need to stay there and even commit more troops
there to destroy them. Despite the fact that the u.s.
Was backing them. The proof is just overwhelming
that these, this equipment, this money, this guidance.
You can't create a militia overnight.
That could fight the Syrian Army to a standstill.
Syria is one of the most significant military.
Powers of the of the region. So again, you know, Assad always
says that the Isis doesn't need an Air Force because it has his
room as he Israeli Air Force. So it's one of the most
outrageous ones to what comes from.
This is number one that this is like a homegrown group.
There are locals, of course, they come from all over.
But, you know, this is a legitimate group that was formed
to destroy everything. Number two, that the
justification for American involvement over there is to
destroy Isis or number three, America.
It's actually engaging Isis. The Taliban has lost a large
number of men fighting Isis. So when I see headlines talking
about the collusion between those two power, he makes me
laugh. But again Johnson's will up
being what it is. There's not much you can say,
we're talking about in this program, you know staying saying
this is my world for 30 years. I came of age, you know, I came
into this field. I was a musician and 1989 when
ceausescu was shot by his own Army.
That's when I changed. I was my freshman year in
college. And that's that was the event,
that, that was a catalyst for everything that I do now, and
the Gulf War was the first big thing.
Desert Shield was the first big thing that occurred early in my
college Years and even I knew the as a neophyte, how
ridiculous the propaganda was. And as I said in the very
beginning, it's easy to identify propaganda mythology special
pleading because it's not in the interest of the people or powers
to commit these crimes. It doesn't even make sense.
It's so obviously designed to pull at your heartstrings.
As you said that, it's just, it's just isn't true and it's
the same thing over and over again, World War one.
I don't know if you've seen some of the propaganda pictures of
the babies on bayonets. That drumming now and Belgium,
Belgium throwing them up in the air.
You know, this. You can you imagine the corpse
Factory. Yeah.
Could you, can you imagine these
men the family men who missed their wives and children with
every bone in their body. Just killing baby for no reason.
And not only from, you know, for no reason.
But committing these atrocities anywhere justifies the action of
your enemies. The Taliban were the first group
of people to condemn the 9/11 attacks.
They had no connection to it. What's worse?
Didn't have that kind of power and tried to hand over Bin
Laden. Yeah to.
And to any third party country that would accept it and they
will, he ended up in Pakistan. He died long time ago.
That whole story is, is nonsensical, but the Taliban
were, well, aware some an attack like that will justify American
soldiers in the Middle East and Central, Asia for decades to
come. And as you mentioned, the war in
Afghanistan, has been the case long before 9/11 and other, I'm
sorry to interrupt you. But before we before we were too
far away from Isis currently, there's a foreign policy advisor
for the Biden Administration. Jake Sullivan.
And he years ago. In 2012, wrote an email that was
released under in Hillary State Department emails that said,
Make sure Hillary knows H. AQ is on our side and Syria.
Meaning Al-Qaeda is fighting alongside America against Assad
in what was called operation Timber Sycamore.
So they're jabhat al-nusra was the al-qaida-affiliated group
that they were aligned with, of course, killing the Isis.
Enemy soleimani. They gave Al Qaeda all of Iraq
after overthrowing Saddam, they sided with Al-Qaeda against
Gaddafi. Daffy was one of the first
people to call for bin Laden's, arrest and like 96.
So, there was no good Daffy Bin Laden Alliance.
So you strengthen Al Qaeda by taking out Gaddafi in.
I think it was 2014. Yeah, you know, the siding with
the rebels in Yemen against the Iranian backed regime.
There. That is another Al-Qaeda
Alliance, but they've been supporting mujahideen Fighters
since Afghanistan in 79 with Jimmy Carter.
ER, and zbigniew Brzezinski, so I mean, this one is so bad.
So evil. Like if you would have, told
someone on 9/11. Hey, we're going to be taking
these guys, the side of these guys and in a war and in a few
years, people would have just like fainted, they would not
have been able to comprehend it. So, yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt
you, but that Isis point is so bad because it took so long and
people have just moved on we forgot about it now.
We're now we're back to expanding NATO.
Every now and then, we'll throw China and there.
But yet Russia's the bad guy again for wanting to worry about
the border with the Ukraine. Again, Johnson's wife certainly
applies there. Well, I had some fun with the
Isis propaganda. Once I believe it was USA Today
that had a picture of what they claim to be a Mossad spy that
they had captured digging his own grave somewhere.
I'm looking at this picture. Those are their their Facebook
because they able to comment on. I'm looking at this picture.
And first of all, I noticed he's in an orange jumpsuit like an
American prison. Why is it Guerrilla group going
to have standardized prison where that's what they're gonna
spend their money on. That suggest, that's meant to
Western audience. Who said, okay, he's a prisoner.
They're not going to do anything like that.
What would they spend money on a standardized person outfit?
How can they, possibly create a prison system and administration
overnight? Not to mention an army.
That was the first second thing is that Isis has never attacked
any kind of Israeli infrastructure, but more
importantly, The jumpsuit was perfectly clean.
There wasn't a drop of sweat on his head.
You know, I think and it was, it was also bad Photoshop.
One of the worst things about Isis and Isis story has been the
terrible. Photoshopping.
There's a part of me that thinks that they do this kind of thing
on purpose. I was attacked viciously.
For pointing all of this out and they like I don't take, don't
quote me on that. USA Today was something like
that though. Mainstream publication newspaper
by pointing out these obvious things and the fact that no one
else seemed to notice. You talk about, you know, ten
thousand, you know, how on Facebook about 10,000 responses
and I was the only one to did nothing here.
Makes any sense is no aspect of this that makes any sense, but a
part of me wants to think that some of these bad photo shops
are done on purpose. I think the ruling class, you
know, I should put out these magazines.
Perfect English glossy, you know, this massive, massive
organization overnight, but they could do better.
In terms of Photoshop, the Jordanian pilot that was burned
alive in his cage. The prisoners being walked on
the side of the river with feed, you know by proportion Isis guys
were like 7 feet tall really bad.
The ruling class wants to see how far they can push the want
to see how minimal their effort has to be to get people to be
convinced. And the nicest thing has really
been in my mind. It's been almost a crisis in
National cognition that they can actually buy the store asking
any any even basic critical. The constant B Putin
assassinations using these radioactive, you know, it's
laughable. It's if people are going to know
right away what happened and Putin's going to be put on front
center as a bad guy. They don't have to do this.
These are usually very minor figures.
So it's usually these days, it's very crude.
And I think the decline in American cognition is so bad
that they could have bad Photoshop and not care.
And they're seeing how much they can get away with.
But I know I went through so many of those responses on
Facebook about that picture and no one was attacked, of course.
And no. One else picked up on nothing
about that picture makes anything.
Including that notion of having an orange jumpsuit.
I mean, how organized was this group that the IRA have standard
prison jumpsuits for their BMW. That pows are all Overnight.
This group comes into existence but Johnson's law, me what it
is, of course, very few people have the wherewithal to ask
these kind of basic questions and it causes a great amount of
suffering. I've learned to deal with it.
You know, I just turned 50, I can, I'm, you know, this used to
drive me crazy Rises. I just don't expect much from
people. I don't expect much from the
voter or the, the voting mentality, and, you know,
they're absolutely has to be an heiress.
Courtesy of sorts, maybe I'll institutionalized.
But an aristocracy of those who have the leisure time to deeply
get into a topic so deeply get involved in a specific area.
One of the worst things of being a specialist.
As I am is that when another special starts talking about it,
the errors are so bad their knowledge.
So superficial. It's a miracle that there's not
physical violence. So but that's this is this is
our lot, my friend. Let's get into some more tips on
staying sane in the in the world today when you have I mean,
explicit lies, Joe, Biden, gen, Saki, and Nancy.
Pelosi on the same day saying that the three point.
Five trillion dollar stimulus, bill is going to cost zero
dollars. So so when you're faced with
that, how do you stay sane in an insane world?
Well, we say, stay sane. It's not as if that particular
lie, you're going to cause people to go into connections.
What we really mean is that over time.
These lies not just promoted by every single outlet, but also
enforced by social sanction, the wear you down, and grind, you
down grinding. Someone down is a technique.
It's a form of abuse, where you just render someone helpless and
they accept their their helplessness.
They truly believe in might one of my favorite word's is a
Greek. Abulia, abulia is not just, it's
usually defined as lethargy, but it's not just lethargy by
itself. It's lethargy from people who
don't believe there's anything left to fight for I don't have
any purpose. Mmm.
You need to be very careful now at our tips for surviving them,
because over time, you will be warned suffering is going to
happen. You will lose jobs.
We will lose friends. You will lose family member.
I've been through it all. Don't think that somehow you're
going to be the exception, you have to be prepared for its get
out of the field. But tips as far as our personal
life is concerned. We can take breaks from time to
time. You don't have to be reading
every article. We don't have to get into every
subject. We need to be very careful about
who we arguing. Very careful.
My opinion is debate should always be in writing or on
social media. You actually think out a
response and type it out rather than the saying it like this.
When someone makes a good point to me that I don't like, I have
to think about it, you know, I, you know, it takes a while to go
look at sources. Everything is very difficult,
when it's in verbal and verbal altercations, can be really
nasty. The written was only somewhat.
So, you know, people have to read, you don't have to listen
to you in verbally, you could even cite sources.
That's a big deal. Don't expect too much out of
people realize that one in eight Americans is a narcissist.
Or has those qualities from the sociopath next door?
I think it came from that. It's very common.
That maybe their opinions aren't from some unbiased study of the
subject of because it makes them sound intelligent.
In all my experience in dealing with Layman concerning these
issues. It really comes down to sounding
smart. See how informed I am.
See. I'm doing something.
I'm up on this stuff. There's a lot of resentment
because of my education and background.
They they want to take me down somehow.
Keeping your cool is absolutely positively, essential the
minute, you get angry and start yelling.
You've lost. So and I've been through this,
my fiancé is in the mental health field specializing in
autism and schizophrenia, and yes, she has a lot of great
insights into this. But mental illness is very
prevalent. Cognitive dissonance is very
prevalent. I've had situations where I
discussed an issue was so much like the Isis not too long ago.
Obviously, you can argue with what I said about Isis, and then
they agree. But a few weeks later.
I hear him talking. You'll give you the official
account to someone else. Yeah, you know, you can't, you
can't be very trustworthy. You have to have a strong
support system. You can't be isolated.
Isolation is terrible. It's almost a form of torture.
You have to have a support system.
You have to plug into a community.
One of the things that the censorship is doing is
destroying any kind of online. Hopefully you could find actual
human interaction somewhere. That's extremely important.
And that's something that I have.
Thank God. I didn't have for a while
because you will go and saying just by itself regardless of
politics if you're isolated, but that's that's being alone.
That's not being in solitude. So avoid alcohol.
My God, please avoid alcohol. Alcohol makes everything worse
does make anyone feel better? It is the most disastrous thing.
A lot of the young guys, they get drunk, and they do stupid
things, and then when they wake up, they feel worse than they
did before. Substance abuse even among our
people isn't minor. Avoiding alcohol, avoiding
illegal drugs. It's a big part of it.
Maintaining your own personal physical health, not only on
Mental Health. And please, this is what you do.
If you're really into this, make sure you have other hobbies that
are totally apolitical. And as I said, you can you can
pull back for a while. You don't have to read every
damn thing. So understand, what propaganda
it and expect this. And so, when you explain
something to someone make certain that it's calm and
measured and intelligent no personal comments.
No personal insults. Try to agree with a few things
that they say. So you sound, you sound more
agreeable than you are. You know that, okay, that's a
good point, but kind of kind of comment, but that only goes so
far, we will suffer will suffer mentally, and because of that
will suffer physically. Because they're very closely
connected. And as I said before, you will
lose jobs, you lose friends. You lose everything, I did,
thank God, I've rebuilt everything, but the fact that I
rebuilt, it means that it is possible for any of us, you are
going to suffer. But this is the fight.
This is the fight. This is, you know, true
aristocracy is those who are fighting the regime right now?
So, so that's, you know, we're fighting the Machiavellian
regime, Machiavellian regime and, which now, essentially, his
black rock. So, that's pretty much it.
So, you know, yes, we will suffer, you have to prepare for,
but there are other things you could do to keep yourself.
Hopefully unlevel ground. And is there something about
just feeling like you're being part of something that is
relatively meaningful or very meaningful.
Of course you Very meaningful would be you insult the
president and millions of people change their mind on TV, but at,
you know our power level or, you know, to anyone, maybe
listening, it's hard to you. Don't exactly get those road to
Damascus moments, where everything changes for you.
It's a little more gradual. It's much more indirect.
It's much more about planting seeds, isn't there?
Something encouraging about choosing a worthy burden to put
on yourself to give you? Something to fight against that
is important. That should be rejected.
And in that process the people you meet along the way you're
going to have this sort of evolution of friendship.
So instead of me staying in the football realm and making
friends and building relationships there in the
economics philosophy and history realm, I'm making friends and
building relationships there. So it's still beneficial.
It's not like this huge sacrifice and if we lose our
life is for nothing, is there Anything out of that word salad,
you'd like to respond to. Oh, no, don't insult yourself.
That's not word salad at all. Makes a lot of sense to me, but
it is really the summary. Of the tips that I just said,
there has to be this interaction.
I don't regret damn thing. I've lost some very good
University jobs because of this and that's something I may never
fully get over. But everything that you said it
really is summary of how we're to approach.
Mental health here that we are in the right.
I'd never make reference to like the first amendment and the
First Amendment right to say something.
No, I'm right. That's why I'm saying it because
there's some abstraction that gives me permission.
The fact that they're centering so brutally proves that they're
very this is not exactly a secure regime.
Double standard and January 6, versus the riots last year.
Totally complete, double close, you know, and if someone can't
see that, maybe you shouldn't be talking to them at all.
Maybe they're not capable and don't assume that everyone's
capable of reason that everyone's capable of following
a chain of arguments and proposition.
So their conclusion. I found that not a whole lot of
people can do that. Don't assume that everyone's
capable of Love, don't assume that even in our own, our own
side. You have people who were there
for non political reasons that are there for personal reasons
or and I always wondered, you know, I went out to editor the
bars review. I was outside front center of
the Nationalist movement. I heard it.
Everybody knew everybody and we get the crazy letters, usually
handwritten about their teddy bears and whatever it was
insanity. And I've always wondered, I
said, are these people crazy and they join our side or are they
on our side? And therefore they went crazy?
I never, I can't, I can't answer that.
But it is not for everybody. History is made by fanatical
determined cohesive minority. There is no exception to this
whatsoever. The masses don't matter, one way
or the other, contrary to what Marx would say, and our own
personal morality and virtue has to come first.
We have to be very, very, very careful about that.
And, and we have to give an example.
I think people are converted more, by example, then by
ideologies. Because even people who I
Certainly have changed. I often mangled my words and my
meanings making it more conducive to their own
self-interest know our example can be a big part of this.
So, you know, look the Soviet Union fell.
In and of itself, there was no war that was no massive famine.
It collapsed, it collapsed, almost overnight from 89 to 91.
It collapsed almost this is never been done in history.
Usually there's a war there's a severe economic shock, something
like that. This just happened.
And all of those who were fighting the system for decades,
we've indicated because everything they said, turns out
to be true that could happen with any regime that we're
fighting. For those people who will accept
the idea that the January 6. With this horrible Riot and the
riots in every city in America before were wonderful peaceful.
Maybe they're just not capable of thinking.
Pick your battles, pick your friend, but if you don't have a
support system, you're going to be in a lot of trouble and you
may then turn to drugs to get over it.
One of the things that I've done is I've tried to make sure that
I'm reaping a benefit out of all of my interactions.
So, as opposed to me just sort of going into this.
I need to keep the good fight up.
I'm going to try to convince this person.
Maybe they'll teach people and it'll create this Chain
Reaction. A lot of people don't listen and
you'll say well, why did I waste so much time on them?
So what I try to do is learn from every one of my
interactions. Whether it's the dumbest person,
I know or If it's, you know, someone with multiple phds who
I'm disagreeing with, from each person, you could see even if
it's just not someone really into politics.
How does the political messaging affect?
Someone like this who doesn't know much yet.
They have the same opinions that the CIA, the Council on Foreign
Relations, the New York Times and the University's Professor
have, isn't that interesting that all these people have the
same idea and if you peel back one layer, they're not really
interested. And in what's going on or how
they develop that opinion? So always try to harmonize the
interest that all right. I am going to learn from this
conversation how a smart person believes a lie.
What their response is how they rationalize the most ridiculous
things. You could possibly say and what
are they going to say? If I ask them a question about
something instead of, putting it in a statement format?
How do they respond? What is the feedback mechanism?
What? Works.
What doesn't work, what opens their mind?
What gets them to stop? To think these sorts of things
allowed me to stop driving myself crazy, because I go.
Okay. I'm going to talk to this person
for maybe 20, 30 minutes. It won't be a waste at 30
minutes if I didn't convince them because I probably won't,
but I will learn and I will have brought that horse to water.
Maybe the horse, doesn't decide to drink.
I will have brought them to the water of Truth or so.
I think maybe I'm wrong about everything and they're bringing
me to the water. They're bringing me to the
Fountain of Knowledge. But either way, harmonizing
those long-term and short-term goals.
And and me saying, how do I find the benefit in this for myself,
for my family for the people? In my immediate group that has
been a really big thing for me. Also, just having standards for
people who I take criticism from for the same reason, you
wouldn't take a blind man's opinion of a painting.
A lot of the It's of the world, the ignoratio as I call them, or
if they guess, it's the world's biggest secret society.
It's so secret. The people who are the members,
don't even know that their members.
That's how big it is. Billions of people that it's the
equivalent of asking. A deaf person, who their
favorite musician is their inability to distinguish with
distinguish truth from falsehood or you don't have any sense of,
you know, in ethical compass. I just think that it's important
to be able to disassociate, not disassociate to distinguish
between valid opinions and invalid ones in the same way.
I might say, you know what, I really disagree with pilots on
how to fly planes. It's important that people just
laugh at me and say, well, yeah, you're not a pilot.
You haven't studied shut up. It's there shouldn't be a vote
among the passengers on how the pilot should fly.
He's right. Everyone else is ignorant
because maybe they have had taken the time to do so, or
maybe they were misled, whatever.
Also, the division of labor has been really big for me.
So, to recognize. So when people say, yeah, I'm
not really informed on, you know, politics or anything or
banking, but maybe, I'll start watching the news.
I say whatever you do. Do not watch the news.
It's worse. It's worse than doing nothing
because you think you're getting something when you're getting
lies? So I say, all right.
So where do you work? And he'll sort of, you know,
reluctantly says, Goodwill, which for those not in America
that is an organization that takes used items and sells them
that collects them and then sells them, distributes them
around States and and whatnot. So it's seen as like the cheap
place but it's getting nicer and as people get newer things they
give their old stuff to Goodwill and Goodwill sells them at a
heavily discounted price. So telling that person that what
they're doing is they're playing a role in the process of getting
Products and services to people at the lowest levels of income
that our grandparents and grandparents never would have
had access to all these clothes and all these books, and all
these CDs, to all the knowledge of all the books and Goodwill
alone is is really big telling them that they still have value
and that they have meaning that first of all, feels good for
you, but also it doesn't just suck people into.
I'm either involved in the cathedral apparatus of the state
or I'm Not really a good person. Anyone who builds a house for a
family to live in my do more for the world than I've ever done
with with this podcast. All right.
Maybe you have to build a few houses.
The point is, is that telling people that their value, that's
another thing that helps build communities.
You don't feel so isolated and it's not like, I only find my
value in Kamala Harris and the speech is that she gives.
So those are some of the things that come to mind.
Oh, also babysitting, I think is great.
Just to deal with. I mean kids who are not going to
ask me about politics or talk about anything to too, serious.
Just to see them laugh at, you know, books or someone falling.
It's so nice to just sit back and, and appreciate it.
Not to mention a bunch of us, atheists, got together, and went
to church on Christmas. Eve, in Scottsdale, Arizona met
the nicest. People there, develop more.
Ships and most probably for so hours.
Then I have in most online forums or any thing revolving in
the in the political realm. Those are pretty much the main
things that come to mind. Also sports.
That playing football is also nice to just to get some energy
out. Any final thoughts on staying
sane in an insane World. Well, how do you follow that?
I, you know, I say. To everyone that I do two things
very well. I'm a very good historian and I
make very cute babies. Family is absolutely essential.
But when that institution is falling apart, this is where
isolation comes from. Finding the right woman and
making children is essential today, not just in America, but
especially in places like Eastern Europe where our
population is falling. The media has led to a situation
where white males have such a chronic low self-esteem, even
gets into the music and the art that's produced.
Nirvana was almost based on, and this is why I suicide the
overwhelming majority of suicides in America, are
middle-aged white males. They're being replaced.
They don't think they have value.
I don't think they're anybody. They've lost their kids.
They've lost their marriage. There's nothing left.
They're a burden on everybody. So family is essential babies
thing. Would, I raised two boys?
And I love the fact that they their innocence.
I think their innocence is one of the reasons that people
abused them. Child abuse comes from this
terrible envy that they don't have to worry about the things
that they do. Childhood Early Childhood is the
Garden of Eden. The fall is puberty and puberty
and the fall expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden or very
soon. And the whole prior to that.
The innocent is something wonderful and it changed my life
completely. I was a very good father and he
came very natural naturally. To me.
It gives you a tremendous amount of confidence.
You rely - the ultimate activism making healthy children.
Raising is the ultimate form of activism.
Michael would come to the demonstrations With Me Now who
the TWP. I had a lot of pictures of that.
He loved every minute of it. He was 14 15.
He was taken because he was my son.
He was taken very seriously. Everyone loved them.
He was very brave. You are strong, you know, it
changed his line. So but you know, what?
Sometimes I wonder you talk about the distinction between
your political stuff in your private stuff.
I find out that that tends to collapse.
It is eventually going to come out.
You can't keep private stuff private, especially if you're
doing what we do. So family is absolutely
essential churches are essential but even that it's is getting
worse and worse as time goes on self-interest arrogance
Conformity fear seem to rule everything just like the Soviet
Union. The capitalist regime is going
to fall under its own weight, too.
Are we going to do? Are you talk about the ignor
otic? I also when I was told my first
speech to the freedom palooza people, I made the statement
that the United States is the only country where you're going
to have a really what the Western world where you could
have a total economic collapse, and I've no one noticed.
Because of how everything is spun.
It's worse than you think. However, there are bits of good
news. There are still reasons to be
happy. You shouldn't be dictated to by
the fact that we're in this position and, and family, the
church connections and close friends.
These you, there's no way I could stress that anymore.
Without them, you are going to be in some trouble.
I think this is really where alcohol and drug addiction comes
from. What is the important difference
between Catholicism and Orthodoxy?
Oxy. Oh, Auntie that come created.
Great. The idea that the bishop of Rome
can decide where Grace goes. Is absolutely essential to
Catholicism. It's the foundation of papal
infallibility. In Orthodoxy, Grace, simply is
the energies of God. The presence of God on Earth.
Simply the simply is and Bishop can then point to it.
The ascetic life is meant to make you able to receive it.
Eden is here. Heaven is here.
And actually they haven't Eden is here, but we're too sinful to
notice. We're too hung up on.
Usually what it comes down to self-interest uncontrolled.
Passion, sex, greed, media control, self importance for the
opposite and we can't experience the ascetic life of the
monastics in Orthodoxy are the dominant.
Part 3 Bishops have to come from.
But the Roman church almost defies the bureaucracy.
It defines the pope of Rome as having total control over other
Bishops, complete control because he is the one who
decides where Grace goals in Orthodoxy.
There is no such concept, so that changes everything between
the two between the two between the two sides.
It wasn't always that way. They had a 800 years of common
life. But gradually this, you know,
this difference, the pope of Rome being the inheritor of the
Roman Empire and of course the Roman Empire surviving in the
East that was the key different. And when Gregory the seventh,
indistinct is pop a claim that he can overthrow a gift for
economic control. He decides every political
question and every religious question, and it's one of the
central text in Catholicism. That changed.
There was no chance of a reunions between the suicides.
At that point. It was one of the and right
after the system, right after 1054.
Establish establishing themselves as a total list
bureaucracy, that is not the case in the East so that if they
do in a very, very simple way, that's how I would describe it.
Created Grace, this notion that the bishop of Rome has this,
tremendous power is and everything that comes from.
That is the main distinction. And if I want a history of the
Orthodox Church, of course, reading the Bible is important.
What is a book that focuses on the history of the Orthodox
Church that you'd recommend to people?
They only have time for one, which one should they read?
That's difficult. Well, you should pick up my
stuff. My book on the well as the
Orthodox idea in Russian literature is very important.
But Timothy wear anything by Timothy where he's, I don't
agree with them on a lot of things but Timothy where is an
excellent source. Another excellent source is
Vladimir Moss. All this stuff is free online.
He has full histories of the Orthodox Church in different
countries. I don't agree with him on
everything, but he's very intelligent worthwhile.
So, but Timothy where again tends to be a bit of a
modernist, a lot of your Moss is probably where I would.
I would send people the Orthodox Christian information, center is
a huge website. This is old as the web.
There is almost nothing in the church.
It isn't on there. They have a whole history
section. That's where I would go and it's
very imposing. Very few people are actually
going to bother to do this. But if I had to pick one, it
would be one of the historical works of blood me Moss.
There's a history, there were structures.
I can't, I can't think of the exact title of the top my head.
That's why I would send them. If you think of that title, send
it to me. I'll put it in the description
below. And then final question.
What is a book or website? You would recommend to someone
if they wanted to learn how to critically think and decrease
the likelihood. They are manipulated by
Propaganda. Book, this is nice a or website.
Yeah. Person to follow anything in
that area. It comes from experience.
It's very difficult to read your way into this.
What happened to me? Is that the college and grad
school? I began to read forbidden
authors you Michael Jones was a big one who just demolished The
Establishment history and a whole bunch of topics to
generate moderns was the first thing that I read of his.
And when you start realizing that, oh my God.
So much of what society believes is absurd and falls and
damaging, it changes your life. You can't, you can think the
same way again. You can function the same way
again. After that, you start taking all
of these claims with a grain of salt, even if they aren't true.
But that kind of criticism that the critical mentality, it comes
from being a full-time worker in this field.
If you don't have the background knowledge, if you don't have the
tremendous reading that goes into any particular subject me
let alone broad concept. You need to rely on others.
And simply asking someone who you trust what is really going
on. I get that I get these emails
all the time. What is going on here?
But doing this comes from experience.
Young men shouldn't presume. It's kind of crunchy.
When young man. We don't really know that much
start start, you know, acting like they're the the guardian of
Aristotle but age and experience is what's going to allow you to
identify. We talked about identifying
propaganda. It takes a while to, you know, I
can just get a whiff of it. There's certain sometimes even
unspeakable ways that you can understand.
It's not necessarily something in writing, but there's
something about the syntax that suggests falsehood.
And this is why I'm so, you know, a logic cuts through all
the extraneous detail and gets to the heart of the matter.
That's what thinking is. That's extremely rare.
The essence is what we're aiming at.
But most people are attached to the accident or the quality and
qualities are easier to access your color and shape and size
and emotion, but getting to the heart of the matter on something
is rare. I think.
Aristotle. And how many people can read
posterior analytics by Aristotle but that is The Logical text.
But I think over time reading critical books.
You could begin to imitate the critical method can be taken in.
I mean, you know, I've made mistakes believe it or not, but
it's something again, it comes from experience.
There isn't a single book out there that can that can do that
for you. Thanks to everyone for watching
Keith Knight. Don't tread on anyone and the
libertarian Institute. Dr. Johnson.
Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it man.
Best questions. Excellent show.