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Don't make me today is dr. 
Matthew Raphael Johnson. 

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Dr. Johnson. 
How can we distinguish truth 

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from falsehood with regard to 
historical events? 

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Of course, this is the central 
question of my entire existence.

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and, The last thing you can do 
in this respect is to go into a 

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question with the answer already
in your mind. 

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And the only way to do that is 
to divest yourself of any 

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self-interest. 
And I knew this from the 

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beginning, special pleading 
makes people sound like idiots. 

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You have to be able to control 
your emotions. 

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You have to be able to prepare 
yourself for uncomfortable 

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results. 
When you begin reading for major

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issues like you're talking 
about, it is the reading 

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involved is tremendous. 
And you have to get the lay of 

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the land as far as the 
literature is concerned. 

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Primary document gonna depend on
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here. 
Primary documents were always 

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nice, but they're often 
misleading because just because 

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their primary doesn't mean that 
they're they're good and 

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interpretation from other 
successfully in very sensitive 

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areas, interpretations by other 
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very suspect to. 
So you're going to have to be 

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prepared to be alone to be 
attacked to be uncomfortable. 

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That's your absolute first 
ingredient. 

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It's basic honesty and I think 
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that self-interest is involved 
be Financial ideological 

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religious. 
You're going to sound foolish, 

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except for people who don't know
anything about You know, I went 

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from Catholicism and Orthodoxy, 
which was a brutal transition. 

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For me, over several years are 
rejecting capitalism. 

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These took a life to read myself
into these things. 

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So, you know, as a basic the 
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years, when I find academic 
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agreeing with the position. 
I often assume it's wrong, 

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especially if they don't really 
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example is a rohingya so-called.
Rohingya crisis in southern 

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Burma. 
No one has ever given a good 

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reason as to why the Burmese 
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attacking them. 
Just because they're different 

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or something very, you know, 
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don't give a good cui Bono, then
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working or that's how we got 
into the Burmese situation. 

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Johnson's law, of course is very
important. 

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If no one knows anything about a
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Your audience doesn't know 
anything. 

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Well, why do you work so hard 
for you to say? 

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Hey give a basic outline, you 
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wrong. 
No One's Gonna know. 

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So ultimately truth of Truth and
falsehood. 

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Of the historical event is 
responsibility of the author. 

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And the only way to do it is to 
eliminate and destroy 

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self-interest. 
And it's very difficult for me 

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to admit to the to Crime of the 
Orthodox Church for example, but

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I know I have two from time to 
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and readers respect us for. 
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course, you know, there's a 
million different things we 

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could talk about in this 
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But whenever your emotions, your
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otherwise or involved, that's 
probably one topic, you 

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shouldn't be researching. 
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the Soviet Union, you wrote an 
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When you start this project. 
What do you start looking for? 

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Secondary sources and then 
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primary by passing other current
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Well, a lot of my books came 
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That I put together rewrote kind
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then the book comes into 
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times. 
Like my very first book, I wrote

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the book as such. 
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irritation. 
That that there's a myth. 

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There's a story that sounds so 
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fix it. 
That's where the first Rome came

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from lectures on medieval 
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course on that topic, and I just
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into a standard text. 
So that was simply to get that 

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stuff out there. 
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document. 
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Dickinson University is no one 
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the Royal family type written in
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standard method but usually it's
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Something is not being said that
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Don't have any real support to 
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They don't even trying to make a
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article and I end up with 100 
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speaking, my books are lectures,
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standardized aren't, you know, 
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still for the same reason, 
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sources. 
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sources that they tell you where
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And thank God. 
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where all these things can be 
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Let me give you one example. 
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You mentioned that is this 
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I would say and I am a supporter
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general suharto of Indonesia, 
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party and 1966. 
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u.s. 
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communist. 
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military dictators in Latin 
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where the review mentally 
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That's an old myth. 
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military dictators of Latin 
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This is bombshell New York Times
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couple of years ago, said the 
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supported this. 
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12 cables from the embassy, that
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Well, they're assuming that no 
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Well, I went I read 12 cables 
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So either they read it and just 
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these Communists. 
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over to the Islamic movement and
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they were dispatching them. 
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them to come out and say that 
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Ice and backing him in knew 
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kill as many as you want. 
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I think it was 12 or 19, cables 
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All you know, recently 
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read them and then or do they 
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We're all the primary sources 
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otherwise, it's pretty useless. 
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I'm sorry, a secondary sources. 
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they all agree which is worse. 
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exaggerated. 
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self-important, all this stuff, 
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And then we'll go later. 
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and how, you know, it took 
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Well, let's talk just before we 
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When you mentioned that topic, I
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starvation of Ukraine under 
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Nationals obvious. 
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That either deny this, or 
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is no via Stalin himself talking
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It wasn't Secret. 
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have a actually a part of it. 
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Soviet book or not. 
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I end with Stalin there but the 
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place you can go. 
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trying to cover up. 
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which I think has been 
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And so, whenever you challenged,
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primary sources. 
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is very important. 
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websites have been promoting 
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now thanks to the web. 
We can read these for ourselves.

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The holiday more is often 
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occur in any country. 
What are some other Crimes of 

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the Soviet Union that you can 
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of Evil by Lenin Stalin 
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of roughly a decade. 
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agriculture. 
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advocated this as well. 
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of the USSR. 
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knowledge of farming or 
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of essentially prison camps. 
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massive number of deaths, mental
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Soviet government where every 
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Massacre attached to it, you 
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And again for these things 
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That's not any no one denies. 
That the fact that it was a 

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failure is in the primary 
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while, you know, no one 
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of the u.s. 
Thing obsession with Hitler. 

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This is not as widely known but 
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case in Mouse China to even even
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He's the greatest crime that was
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Minted. 
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Do you take those two countries?
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meant that the United States had
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Russia was feeding the world 
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collectivization took place, 
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You can't really have a cold war
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your enemy. 
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deaths, I suppose could never 
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But I think I'm not going to 
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in the millions. 
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period of time that was 
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collapse. 
You executions you have people 

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refusing to work and you had 
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massacres go, is that how they 
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certain industries or groups of 
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Massacre as a show of force to 
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would these massacres take place
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kronstadt Rebellion You had a 
whole bunch of these and because

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I'm all over the place where and
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It came, it was something like 
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Khan idea or the Tamerlane idea 
I should say, you commit a 

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massacre, you're going to save 
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resist after that. 
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would do, is there was a peasant
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even have names. 
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garb. 
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shooting and then turn turn on 
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And then commit, a terrible 
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constantly, in this respect and 
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over people, propaganda is 
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the occupied territory. 
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your enemy is was extremely 
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No one did like the Soviets did.
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you know, how they function and 
life in the camps. 

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We just talked about the gulag 
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responsible for maybe twenty 
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even even after Stalin died and 
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So, ethnic nationalism was 
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And again, that's where the 
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I think it was a Novia was a few
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Is his real name? 
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so much an economic matter. 
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group of farmers that did very 
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That was the reason for their 
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was extremely important. 
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to say that the Soviets, 
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starvation in certain places. 
A because, you know, it's what 

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they wanted and be they knew 
that they could rely on others 

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to take care of the food problem
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They never solve the food 
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lands program in the most 
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Lance had never been tilled 
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down there under favorable 
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anything. 
Roads that were too small or too

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weak to support any kind of 
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And one of the reasons that he 
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the failure of the Virgin lands 
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And again, you have starvation 
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that was a simple, incompetence 
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I mentioned before you have 
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Soften Jewish commissars sent to
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These things that have no idea 
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They don't know what they've 
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So, you know, but the gulag 
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I want to just say the gulag 
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of the Soviet Union. 
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camps, big part of the economy 
where a ridiculous number of 

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people were sent and is almost 
not quite, but almost certain 

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death. 
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indiscriminately sent to gulags 
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anyone who technically committed
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How was it that you ended up 
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I've read a ton of stuff in 

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Russian concerning the gulag 
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amount of disagreement in this 
respect. 

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Dozen Eaton's idea is that there
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suspicion. 
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denunciation. 
That got you sent there. 

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Those now higher up, people who 
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the system were sent there. 
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between the gulag system. 
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The mental institutions came 
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And that was the basic basis of 
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Psychiatry. 
If you could even call it that 

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was that opposition to the 
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You must be, we would call 
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and you can see this even in 
Youth and they were experimented

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on and not a whole lot of came 
out of it. 

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But again, the mental 
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another crime, but as far as a 
goo launcher concerned, there 

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was a very brief trial. 
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years the smaller term you often
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forced labor. 
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do that. 
Usually there were some reason 

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for it. 
You're connected with someone 

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who's a rebel, you are a rebel 
yourself, you publish something.

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You said something, you can't 
enforce 100% of course because 

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there's not enough men, but 
wherever they could find 

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something, one of my favorite 
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and I forget where now you've 
written on it. 

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So many things that they'd be 
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in Disguise trucks. 
And I would say meet deliveries.

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So not only were they lying 
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people thought there's so much 
so much Prosperity here. 

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That look at the meat. 
Trucks are everywhere. 

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So the entire thing was based on
deceit. 

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So of course there was some 
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don't think that was the bulk of
it. 

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There had to be a trial and then
a term assigned to it. 

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When it comes to what being sent
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expression or thing that 
actually took place and why what

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other they were there were camps
everywhere. 

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The North Sea. 
And some of these other places 

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were nasty only because they 
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Do you have bitter Winters, but 
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mosquitoes in the summer. 
Did you have someone standing 

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warm standing water Peter, the 
Great did that when he 

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constructed st. 
Petersburg? 

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He he sent Cossack powa get a 
group of people who hated who 

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had resisted him in the past to 
work in dig this thing out. 

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You had a hundred thousand 
deaths at a very low estimate. 

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So st. 
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on the bones of his enemies. 
It was almost an occult ritual 

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that he defected was an occult 
ritual. 

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So this isn't a new thing. 
Siberia fabric, you know, the 

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southern part of Siberia is very
beautiful. 

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The northern part is very 
difficult. 

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I think phone, most beautiful 
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they had camps up there for 
various reasons, but camps were 

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in every part of the USSR. 
Looking at other crimes 

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committed by Communists. 
I'm mainly focusing on this 

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because there was a study came 
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college, have no problem with 
Communism and think it's a good 

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idea that everything be 
collectively owned 17% of 

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professors in the social 
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as Marxist. 
Of course, the venona files come

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out showing. 
That Joseph McCarthy was right, 

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there were about 300. 
Word and 50 communist in the 

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state department. 
The rosenbergs Harry Dexter 

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white, Alger Hiss Etc. 
So because the term communism 

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isn't put in front of our face. 
It doesn't, we forget to 

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register that it's actually a 
problem and all degrees moving 

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towards that is, is also an 
issue when it comes to why you 

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are an anti-communist. 
Why is that? 

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That the theory itself is 
absurd. 

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It denies the family. 
It denies the nation. 

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It denies any political system 
except the rule of the party. 

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That doesn't mean I haven't 
learned things from Karl, Marx 

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Karl Marx's early. 
Writings are actually very good,

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the role of money money, 
dissolves everything, but the 

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destruction of national 
cultures, Is a part of policy, 

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you know, you talked about like 
a Soviet or Chinese Communist 

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Massacre. 
I was just doing this with the 

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in Vietnam concerning Vietnam 
that's actually part of policy. 

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When you other governments may 
do it more or less as an 

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aberration, but when cleansing 
the nation of undesirables, who 

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are not people in their minds 
becomes a part of the agenda and

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it has always been a part of the
agenda. 

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Massacres whatever it is, are 
are praiseworthy. 

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Remember Marxist are pure 
materials, which is another 

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giant problem with me. 
If human beings are nothing more

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than flesh and motion. 
Then what difference does it 

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make if one is killed or not? 
So, but Marcus early writings 

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are very interesting. 
There is something to be said 

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about surplus-value. 
I'm not 100% sure about the 

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labor theory of value. 
But but that does not mean 

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Marxism as a system is is 
viable. 

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So, you know, it's such a 
struggle to deal with it. 

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You have such a low level of 
understanding. 

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We talking about the younger 
kids. 

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They like labels a lot. 
You could promote a system does 

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not call it Marxist their Styles
and if the label isn't on it, 

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then that they're good, but you 
know the historical living among

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academics historical. 
Level is so low, the knowledge 

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is so bad and it's getting 
worse, not to mention. 

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The fact that you are in a 
disease that economy the last 

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days of Empire here were no, you
don't have oligarchy anymore. 

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You have Monopoly. 
And because no one knows 

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anything about the right-wing 
alternatives to capitalism 

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syndicalism or whatever. 
They simply assume that the only

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possible art, alternative is 
Marxism. 

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You know, marks was again, as 
bakunin said, in the first 

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International Market, received a
lot of money from the 

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Rothschilds and a lot of this 
completely destroyed other forms

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of collective ownership. 
The Prudhoe honest. 

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I've always been very 
sympathetic to to pierre-joseph 

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Prudhoe, but these are very 
obscure, most people. 

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So the capitalist system is 
obviously failed miserably. 

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And that's, you can even cover 
that anymore. 

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Therefore, communism must be 
true and I'm willing to, I'm 

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willing to bet that's pretty 
much. 

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That's again, it goes 
propaganda, ignorant or the only

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possible art. 
Alternative is some version of 

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Communism, mean, a call. 
It that call it something else, 

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but I mentioned the bakunin 
March thing. 

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He received money from the 
Rothschilds. 

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One of the things that came from
that was that every other kind 

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of socialism. 
It appeared. 

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They were pretty much kicked out
of the first International 

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socialism. 
You had a million different 

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versions of socialism over the 
over the centuries. 

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And and I'm told this based on 
the community, not in the 

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collective. 
Those are two different things. 

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And those were wiped out of the 
first International, therefore 

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people began to think and we're 
ignorant. 

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Begin to think that if you're 
anti-capitalist, therefore, you 

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must be a communist. 
What is propaganda and how can 

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it be identified? 
I'm pretty sure propaganda is a 

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pejorative. 
You know, when you are a 

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government or ruling class. 
That has no right to rule. 

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Your only option is to 
manipulate people getting them 

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to think that you have a right 
to rule or that whatever you're 

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doing is in their best interest 
or the final manifestation of 

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historical cycle or the apogee 
of Justice. 

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And so you have to control the 
press and such a way that they 

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begin. 
Not just writing this in at 

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Orioles, but picking stories and
ideas and talking about them 

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with that in mind. 
Because people work all the time

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and they have kids. 
And if they don't, they don't 

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have a lot of time to think 
critically about this Americans,

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especially, don't think 
systematically. 

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They know, a few sound bites. 
They know a few slogans. 

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And it's not, you know, politics
for them is like rooting for the

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Steelers. 
So, what the second part of your

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question, what is propaganda? 
And what, and how can it be 

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identified? 
Yeah, you know, it's simple, 

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special pleading. 
It can be identified because 

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usually Propaganda in its 
purest, form doesn't make a 

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whole lot of sense, you know? 
Special pleading is the idea 

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that because yourself interested
you have to set up a double 

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standard and, you know, 
propaganda tends to have a 

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pretty in America. 
It has a pretty uniform 

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structure. 
They use a lot of vague words, a

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lot of slogans, a lot of 
repetition, a lot of pointing to

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Authority. 
They claim that they're somehow 

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Rebels. 
And when you have the music 

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industry publishing Academia, 
not every every institution 

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concerning Communications in the
country, saying the same thing. 

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It's pretty remarkable. 
But the assumptions, the 

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sloganeering and the lack of cui
Bono. 

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Been saying for a long time. 
What the way you can identify 

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this is that they never give a 
reason. 

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I think about the so-called 
concentration camps in western 

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China, which I have a paper on. 
No one has ever explained. 

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Why the heck? 
They're doing that. /. 

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How is it in their interest? 
They're trying to build up the 

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economy of that part of the 
world. 

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It's very desolate and so-called
concentration camps are in fact,

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education center. 
They desperately need the 

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00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,900
there's a whole policy. 
The equal is equal lives in the 

459
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,800
western part to the eastern part
and to resettle people out 

460
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,500
there, the think that given that
policy, they have any interest 

461
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:19,400
in causing, you know, violent 
Warfare death is absurd. 

462
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:21,600
And you can say this for a lot 
of places. 

463
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800
What, what is it? 
How is this regime, whatever 

464
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,400
government you're talking about?
What is our interest in doing 

465
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,900
this? 
Why in Heaven's name? 

466
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,900
Are they spending so much 
resources, putting so much 

467
00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:33,300
resources to destroying a 
certain group of people, or 

468
00:28:33,308 --> 00:28:37,600
whatever the with a claim in and
propaganda. 

469
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,600
Often will never give you that 
or they'll give it in in a very 

470
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,100
vague way. 
It's significant that Karl Marx.

471
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,100
Never described. 
What a communist society would 

472
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:52,700
look like at its final stage. 
Everything was critical of what 

473
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,700
was almost everything was 
critical of, what was the 

474
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:55,700
anarchist? 
Didn't do that. 

475
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,400
So a lot of vague sloganeering 
the use of buzzwords. 

476
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Weak arguments, the lack of cui 
Bono logical, inconsistencies 

477
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,200
and uniformity with other people
in that field. 

478
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,600
That's a pretty quick and easy 
way to, to recognize propaganda 

479
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:22,700
and amateurism in the field. 
I've always said that in, you 

480
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:24,700
can always spot an Indian 
historical question. 

481
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:29,100
You can always spot an amateur 
when they start using modern 

482
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:33,600
Western terms to describe a an 
old, Much older Society. 

483
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:38,200
So someone talking about human 
rights when they're talking 

484
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600
about Plato like Allan Bloom. 
Did you have to laugh? 

485
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,300
You can't hold them to that 
stay. 

486
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:45,100
They had no concept of what that
would be. 

487
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:50,600
So that's this one quick example
of how and it's a propaganda. 

488
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,100
Although, in a historical sense.
I could spot it without it. 

489
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:56,600
Yeah, even things like phony 
quotes. 

490
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:01,200
I can spot a phony quote, right?
Right off the bat. 

491
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:05,300
And it usually is that someone 
is condemning themselves. 

492
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,400
So the quote about London, that 
lending the saying I'm going to 

493
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,900
kill everybody. 
I'm gonna hang babies in Great 

494
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,900
Britain. 
Our party is to destroy to 

495
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:19,000
destroy civilization. 
You know, stuff like that. 

496
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,000
And you know, they're not going 
to say that about themselves. 

497
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:24,100
They're not going to condemn 
themselves. 

498
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,700
They're going to say that they 
are the apogee of History. 

499
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,700
Lenin does say, he has to 
cleanse Society, but only with, 

500
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,300
you know, the best interest in 
mind. 

501
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800
No one is going to admit that 
there's going to hang people for

502
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,500
no reason and that, or whole 
party this, you know, death and 

503
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:39,700
destruction. 
That's what we're here for. 

504
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:44,200
But phony quotes from lens, 
Stone Hitler. 

505
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:46,200
They all day. 
They say the same thing, and 

506
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600
it's really easy to identify 
some That would never say 

507
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,200
something. 
It doesn't make any sense. 

508
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,500
That's when your expert 
propagandist, they'll never say.

509
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,600
So that's how you could but. 
That's just one other example, 

510
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,100
the phony quotes I've got so 
many of these things that 

511
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:05,000
circulate on the web quotations 
that they use tribute to people.

512
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:08,400
So many of them are false and I 
don't know why people can 

513
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,900
identify the fact that no one is
going to condemn themselves in 

514
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:16,700
front of others. 
So so that's that's the issue 

515
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:21,300
here. 
You wrote a paper and I had 

516
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:23,500
trouble finding which paper this
was from. 

517
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,600
But you spoke about the 
importance of tradition and far 

518
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,700
from being something that just 
idiots do and is unnecessary and

519
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,000
something we should throw out 
and replace with pure logic. 

520
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:40,600
There actually is a good reason 
to embrace tradition and a large

521
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,600
utility in doing. 
So why is tradition important? 

522
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Well, tradition isn't some 
arbitrary set of practice it. 

523
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,200
Traditions concerning the 
family, for example, these are a

524
00:31:52,208 --> 00:31:56,500
part of natural law. 
A man and woman, the extended 

525
00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,900
family living Under One Roof, 
the tight-knit community of a 

526
00:31:59,908 --> 00:32:02,700
family and all of the rituals 
that go along with it. 

527
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:06,800
This is a part of natural law. 
Only in modern societies. 

528
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,100
Have they tried to destroy the 
Soviet Union one of the first 

529
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200
tradition among other things is.
What works? 

530
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,700
What's worked in the past? 
What people have gotten used to 

531
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,200
their? 
Not an institution isn't 

532
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,400
tradition, but practices within 
the institution, are our 

533
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,600
tradition and the Orthodox 
Church. 

534
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,600
For example, the claim is made 
that tradition is the unwritten.

535
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,800
Doctrines of Christ. 
And the apostles, the unwritten 

536
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,500
doctrines that or even even 
those that are written in 

537
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:43,700
obscure because only so much you
can fit on a page and tradition 

538
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,600
is one of the touchstones of 
truth. 

539
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:50,100
If you could trace it back to 
the to the apostolic era or 

540
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,400
thereabouts. 
So, tradition makes is an 

541
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000
alienation is based on a 
traditions and customs 

542
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
encapsulated in language. 
These are structures of 

543
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,000
survival. 
They didn't come from nothing. 

544
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:06,700
And they came from struggle. 
They came from foreign 

545
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,200
occupation suffering. 
Starvation. 

546
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,500
Traditions didn't come from 
nowhere. 

547
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:13,700
They are protective shield for 
population. 

548
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,100
And is that why the Communists? 
And tyrants of any flavor if we 

549
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,200
only call them communist? 
We're only going to be looking 

550
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200
for them. 
So tyrants of any flavor, hating

551
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,500
tradition and hating the family 
structure, because they see it 

552
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,800
as a competing Allegiance. 
They see it as a hurdle. 

553
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:37,200
You getting them to have this 
sort of Monopoly on Authority 

554
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,200
within a certain region. 
When we Elizabeth. 

555
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,600
The first was colonizing 
Ireland, especially in the 

556
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,900
northern part. 
She made it very clear. 

557
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:49,600
It's actually her exact quote 
was. 

558
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,400
We're going to make sure that 
this generation has no idea what

559
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,200
the who the grandparents were. 
And she began a campaign of 

560
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,100
burning, and torching monastic, 
libraries, and any possible 

561
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:14,000
written source of of identity. 
Therefore, there's no foundation

562
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
for Rebellion. 
Peter, the Great. 

563
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,500
Created this myth that Russia 
before him was ignorant and 

564
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,699
illiterate and he said on a 
campaign to destroy the annals 

565
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:28,900
of the noble families throughout
the country. 

566
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:34,000
Which is, which were a huge 
source of local history. 

567
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,900
And he did a very good job of 
that. 

568
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:42,300
And the point is to make people 
ignorant about who they are, and

569
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:47,800
he was a revolutionary and soul.
So yeah, I agree though, with 

570
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,000
one of the, one of the marks of 
a tyrant, a true Tyrant is their

571
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,400
hatred of any kind of competing 
ideologies turning, any kind of 

572
00:34:56,408 --> 00:34:58,600
competing institution. 
So I think your instincts are 

573
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,200
perfect in that. 
Capitalism do is exactly the 

574
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,900
same way. 
Coca-Cola goes into a place like

575
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:08,100
Indonesia and does everything in
its power. 

576
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:13,800
This is actually the book about 
this to destroy the tea industry

577
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,300
and they ran advertisements and 
they had things put into TV, 

578
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:22,100
shows something that T is for a 
lady's, you're not strong, and 

579
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,900
not manly, whatever it is. 
If you're drinking that stuff, 

580
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,700
Coke is what you want to do. 
They went out of their way to 

581
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:32,800
make tea drinking. 
Effeminate to destroy Nate, they

582
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,900
almost succeeded. 
So, again, that's a very minor 

583
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:39,700
tradition of tea drinking, but 
it wasn't minor for Coke. 

584
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,600
I'm not sure how successful that
was but you have internal 

585
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,900
document. 
That was actually Benjamin. 

586
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:48,000
Barber is Jihad versus make 
world that story at first read 

587
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,400
there. 
So competing ideas competing 

588
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,200
institutions have to go remember
the family centuries ago, wasn't

589
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,300
the nuclear family. 
That's a creation of the 1950. 

590
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,900
The family was a with the 
extended family will talk about 

591
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:07,700
hundreds of people. 
You don't have the mobile 

592
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:13,700
Society like you had now. 
The Serbian numb, but evil, 

593
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:18,100
Serbian unit of society was this
family and hundreds and hundreds

594
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,900
of people, it would include. 
Of course, obviously involves 

595
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,000
were included. 
But also servants, anyone who 

596
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,700
works for you and you were 
treated all pretty much in the 

597
00:36:25,707 --> 00:36:28,300
same way under a, under a 
patriarchal head. 

598
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,400
So, we talk about things like 
the family and the institution 

599
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,500
to go along with it. 
All right. 

600
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:35,300
Sorry the Traditions that go 
along with it. 

601
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:40,600
Remember what they meant. 
And which is I'm glad I 

602
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,700
mentioned that because it did 
remind me of a very important 

603
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:47,700
idea words today. 
And this has been a big multi 

604
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:52,200
Crusade of mine. 
Don't mean what they meant a 

605
00:36:52,207 --> 00:36:54,700
hundred years ago, weather 
trends wife's and other ones. 

606
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,200
And I've seen this before, a 
family, is that classic example 

607
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,100
of is. 
Another example law is. 

608
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,300
Another example politics is 
another example. 

609
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,600
Words have been so mangled today
that to take that mangled 

610
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,700
definition and to read it back. 
Centuries ago is assure a route 

611
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,000
to error and family is one of 
them. 

612
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,500
You weren't talking about, you 
weren't talking about and 

613
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,800
everything was communal. 
Everything was about social 

614
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,600
belonging. 
You don't have the isolated 

615
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,400
individual in the basement, like
you have today. 

616
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,900
None of that existed in previous
centuries. 

617
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:40,700
So taking these words. 
And using them for earlier 

618
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:44,800
civilizations is again a sign of
amateurism May well be a 

619
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,400
identifying marker propaganda? 
Because again, going back to 

620
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,300
that question propaganda is 
false again. 

621
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:57,100
It's a yard, you can't have 
positive propaganda, you know, 

622
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,700
it's like can't have loving 
loving rape, you know, it's by 

623
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:05,100
definition of battery. 
So unless we again, so these are

624
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,600
some of your marks for that and 
we could, we could talk for 

625
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,100
hours on that question. 
Speaking of words that have 

626
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:18,300
different meanings, the type of 
capitalism that I would support 

627
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:24,000
would be defined from a PhD from
Lost University of Las Vegas, 

628
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Nevada Hans Hapa in his book, a 
theory of socialism and 

629
00:38:27,008 --> 00:38:31,800
capitalism, and he says we can 
have two sorts of approaches to 

630
00:38:31,808 --> 00:38:34,400
things. 
We could have communism the 

631
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,900
abolition of private property 
socialism. 

632
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,600
The institutionalized aggression
against private property. 

633
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Or capitalism the 
institutionalized recognition or

634
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,700
a social system based on the 
explicit recognition of private 

635
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:51,300
property and non-aggressive, 
contracts between individuals 

636
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:56,000
and private property owners. 
Wouldn't you say capitalism? 

637
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,800
What are you referring to? 
Well, capitalism is and I think 

638
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,900
I'm pretty sure. 
Karl Marx coined the term means 

639
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,300
the rule of capital. 
It does not mean the free 

640
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:12,300
market. 
Yeah, and again, even the free 

641
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:16,800
market I have issues with, but 
capitalism is the rule of 

642
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,500
Corporation, especially banks, 
that create the market rather 

643
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:25,500
than satisfied. 
They can get away with paying 

644
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:31,000
low wages. 
They are they are at War almost 

645
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:34,200
with their community. 
And the concept is is that you 

646
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:37,400
privatize profits and 
externalized costs. 

647
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:42,200
And if there's anything that 
defines the capitalism of today,

648
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,200
it would be that. 
But it's in the interests of 

649
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,500
corporate America to do these 
things. 

650
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,900
It's in the self-interest of 
corporate America to have their 

651
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:53,900
people in the FDA. 
Or anywhere. 

652
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:57,000
I mean a defense industry is 
heavily represented in the 

653
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,500
Pentagon in uniform and if they 
retire they go off and work for 

654
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:02,700
Boeing. 
It's in their interest to do 

655
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,800
that. 
So I don't believe it's an 

656
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,300
aberration. 
But these companies that have 

657
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:12,200
grown that strong. 
Know how to protect themselves. 

658
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,400
And this is what they do. 
It's hard today to talk about 

659
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,800
the distinction between 
government and the private 

660
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,900
sector because it really doesn't
exist. 

661
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,700
It's an outmoded idea. 
When you have first of all, 

662
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:27,600
government agencies, privatized 
all over the place, having 

663
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,400
contractors. 
On the other hand, having this 

664
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,300
revolving door between the 
public and private sector. 

665
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,000
You know, so Facebook and Great 
Britain hired a group of former 

666
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:46,900
Facebook Executives. 
Sorry Executives in there and 

667
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:49,500
their version of the FCC to sit 
on their board. 

668
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600
So they knew exactly what they 
had to do to get their way. 

669
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,400
And this happens, you know, 
BlackRock, of course an extreme 

670
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,200
example where the central banks 
of the major central banks of 

671
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,900
the world. 
They at least have one 

672
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:06,800
representative of the BlackRock 
board and That's when you know, 

673
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,900
it's a monopoly, you can't get 
any stronger than that. 

674
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,800
So it's in their interest to do 
these things. 

675
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,300
So it's really difficult for us 
to even talk about the 

676
00:41:14,308 --> 00:41:17,400
difference between the state, 
the state apparatus, and the 

677
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,800
private sector. 
They've grown so powerful that 

678
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:24,900
that you can't tell them apart. 
And the debt that the u.s. 

679
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,300
Is in is such that they need to 
privatize these things. 

680
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:30,500
It's almost like the sale of 
officers and he can Century 

681
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:33,500
France. 
So, but I don't think that's an 

682
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,500
aberration. 
I think I think, you know, 

683
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:40,900
capitalism has a natural course.
And and that's really what it 

684
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,400
is. 
So if you want to maintain the 

685
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,200
reign of small business workers 
control, you have to have laws 

686
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:51,100
that keep that from happening. 
And hope is someone who I've 

687
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,400
read. 
I don't remember that. 

688
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,700
I read it so long ago, but so 
that's why I would come down on 

689
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,400
that. 
The free market has tremendous 

690
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,400
benefits. 
I'm not so sure it exists in 

691
00:42:01,408 --> 00:42:08,200
most places anymore. 
Let's get into the Holocaust. 

692
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:12,100
I want to Define that term so we
know we're talking about the 

693
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:15,200
same thing. 
The three pillars that I think 

694
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:20,100
are necessary to know what we're
talking about. 

695
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:24,800
Is one the Holocaust means a 
plan to exterminate European 

696
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,000
jewelry by the National 
Socialist regime in Germany, 26 

697
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,800
million deaths, took place 
three, these were intentional. 

698
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:40,000
That's primarily using gas 
Chambers as a method of 

699
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,300
execution. 
So using that term in those 

700
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:46,900
ways. 
I'm going to try and steal man. 

701
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:52,200
The case for why I do say that 
the Holocaust is something that 

702
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:56,500
that happened. 
I think the original 

703
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,300
justification, of course, was 
referred to as the evaru 

704
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,300
agreement or the transfer 
agreement, which was expulsion 

705
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:09,100
from Of Jews out of Europe and 
into places in Madagascar. 

706
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:12,700
There was also an alliance with 
Zionist where they had the same 

707
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:16,500
exact interest getting Jews out 
of Europe. 

708
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,200
So one of the first things that 
I think got this Holocaust 

709
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,200
operation moving was having 
millions of Jews under National 

710
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,400
Socialist control during the 
war. 

711
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,500
Say, 1942 era Nazi saw them as 
an enemy security. 

712
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:33,600
Risk taking up the scarce 
resources. 

713
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,400
In a time of War 1942, you have 
Operation, Reinhard trains 

714
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,400
arriving at belzec sobibor and 
Treblinka roughly 2.4 million 

715
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,100
Jews. 
Altogether, six hundred thousand

716
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:48,600
Russian Jews, 1.8 million Jews. 
I believe the inability to 

717
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:56,100
account for where vels Jews were
after the war is an example that

718
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,500
we have of them. 
Actually getting killed. 

719
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:03,200
When it comes to evidence from 
gurbles, I have is Diary March 

720
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,400
27. 1942, he said, sixty percent
of Europe's Jews have been 

721
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,200
liquidated on December 12th. 
1942 grbl says, we already have 

722
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200
to answer for some things. 
If we do not want to run the 

723
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,100
risk of gradually becoming 
discovered, October 7th, 1943. 

724
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:24,600
He says, beginning in February 
24, I'm sorry garbles begins to 

725
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,900
speak of the Jewish, question in
the past tense as something that

726
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:32,500
is behind them. 
So originally the thesis was, 

727
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,200
well, they just had to Terminate
enemies of the Empire. 

728
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,900
They were security risk, they 
could have revolted and weekend,

729
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Nazi power in Europe, but then 
they just needed the labor force

730
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,000
because things were not going as
successful as they wanted to on 

731
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,100
the Eastern Front. 
Next piece of evidence. 

732
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:52,900
I have in 1943. 
I have the core report. 

733
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Himmler received the statistical
report. 

734
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,800
He commissioned from SS Master 
esthetician. 

735
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:02,500
Dr. Richard core core referred 
to this as a final extended 

736
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:05,600
report Himmler. 
Or had wanted the report at the 

737
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,100
beginning of 1943 and core 
represented him with the first 

738
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:14,300
provisional report on March 23rd
asking for a few more months 

739
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:17,600
until July to present the final 
extended report. 

740
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,900
The figure he came up with was 
two million, four hundred 

741
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:27,000
nineteen thousand six hundred 
and fifty-six, 1.7 killed in 

742
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,800
extermination camps and six 
hundred and thirty three 

743
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,900
thousand on the Eastern Front. 
Finally. 

744
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:38,200
We have Himmler. 
Saying in May 24 1944. 

745
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,000
I believe gentleman that you 
know me, well, enough to realize

746
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:45,700
I am not a bloodthirsty man or a
man who takes pleasure or find 

747
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:48,600
sport in the harsher things. 
He must do. 

748
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,000
When I recognize the necessity 
of something. 

749
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200
I will do it unflinchingly as to
the Jewish women and children. 

750
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,900
I did not believe I had the 
right to let these children grow

751
00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:00,800
up to become Avengers who would 
kill our fathers and 

752
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,000
grandchildren that's according 
to Routledge history of The 

753
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,100
Holocaust. 
Finally Himmler says, I am 

754
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:10,200
convinced that things would look
Bleak for the front that have 

755
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,300
been built up to the east of the
general occupied Poland. 

756
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,300
If we had not resolved, the 
Jewish problem there. 

757
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,600
If, for example, the ghetto in 
Lublin or the massive ghetto, in

758
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,300
Warsaw with its 500,000, 
inhabitants were still in 

759
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,900
existence. 
So we have core saying that 

760
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:31,800
these Jews were dispatched, op 
gong by a special treatment in 

761
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,100
the Eastern camps and are now 
Toad has fallen to the tune of 

762
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:39,500
2.4 million. 
We have gerbils implying that 

763
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,200
they need to be killed. 
We have Himmler saying that it 

764
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,500
took place. 
We have korres report after we 

765
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:51,000
also have a large scale revolts 
in Treblinka and sobibor when it

766
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,700
said that those are being shut 
down, that is an indicator that 

767
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:59,500
those Jews responded uniquely 
because they knew that they were

768
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:03,300
next in line because they were 
no longer useful for labor. 

769
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,300
So, So my biggest point is the 
missing Jews of Operation. 

770
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:08,700
Reinhard. 
Thank you for letting me go on 

771
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,500
that. 
That is really all I have to say

772
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,400
on the topic as to my why I have
my current position. 

773
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:18,200
What is your response to this? 
Well, I appreciate it. 

774
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,000
And I have no problem listening 
to that. 

775
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,800
I've come across this before. 
Michael Shermer and a few 

776
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,900
others. 
Thank God. 

777
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:28,300
This is not a big area for me. 
I have nothing published on the 

778
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:30,200
question. 
But of course, working for the 

779
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,700
bond review. 
I came across and I read most of

780
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:34,500
these reports. 
The years. 

781
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:43,300
I think we both watch the David 
Cole presentation saying a lot 

782
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:46,800
of these same things. 
I think I think Cole estimates 2

783
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,100
million as a final death count, 
which makes them, you know, 

784
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:54,200
pretty well off compared to the 
Belarus ins or the Russians. 

785
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,100
And that sense. 
There's a few things to say, 

786
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600
some of these reports have been 
criticized. 

787
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,900
I'm not there, not authentic, 
but they're distort. 

788
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:10,100
I'm going to say that Himmler is
probably your best bet. 

789
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:14,500
Himmler and both week, I would 
think the Posen speech is what 

790
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:17,100
you were referring to. 
He made two of them where it was

791
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,100
almost a bloodthirsty idea. 
But Himmler was like that. 

792
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:24,300
Well, people don't get in an 
East, you're trying just like 

793
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:26,600
the ghettos and everything else 
you're talking about, an armed 

794
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,000
partisan population. 
Not talking about, you know, 

795
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,300
children and playground in the 
East especially the German High 

796
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:36,500
command always talked about. 
These partisans is a huge part 

797
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,200
of the especially, you know, 
when the Posen speeches were 

798
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,400
made and what was pretty much 
over and overwhelmingly. 

799
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,300
They were of Jewish background. 
Overwhelmingly, the political 

800
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:50,400
commissars in the Soviet Army 
were of Jewish background. 

801
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:53,100
You're right to talk about the 
significant curity threat idea. 

802
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,700
You're also right to bring up 
the Vara and ring. 

803
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,400
So I take a moderate position in
this respect. 

804
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,600
My Uncle Mike one of my big 
problems with the Holocaust in 

805
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,400
general. 
It's called the Holocaust. 

806
00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:09,400
As if they're the only ones that
make any difference, you had 

807
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,700
Slaughters all over the place. 
Deliberate Slaughters based on 

808
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:18,000
race or ethnicity. 
This was just one of many. 

809
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:20,400
I don't believe in the death 
camps. 

810
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,300
I think that, I mean, sorry, the
gas Chambers. 

811
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,600
I think that's been pretty much 
despatched by now, zyklon, B 

812
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,800
would be very ineffective in 
that respect. 

813
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,900
The analysis of the the fact 
that the u.s. 

814
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:35,300
Couldn't even get to I'll 
switch, that was a Soviet 

815
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,900
construction, you know, so 
there's definitely problems. 

816
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,300
The Six Million figure is, is an
exaggeration. 

817
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:47,600
Like, the six percent figure is 
an exaggeration. 

818
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,900
Some of these, you know, I've 
come across these reports one 

819
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:55,300
time or another. 
The only one that I really would

820
00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:57,800
take, seriously, would be him 
one. 

821
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,500
And Himmler is talking about the
Eastern Front. 

822
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:03,400
He's talking about reasons for, 
and he made these speeches, 

823
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:08,400
especially the 40 41. 
He made these speeches in the 

824
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,600
face of military defeat. 
You knew what was happening. 

825
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,900
There. 
Were privately talking about the

826
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,200
absolute crisis of the Eastern 
Front. 

827
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,500
But the camps were largely 
self-governed. 

828
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,100
The right didn't have the 
resources, especially in 44 45, 

829
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:32,500
and I think it was the dean of 
Holocaust studies who I'm 

830
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:37,000
blanking on his name right now. 
To come to me, you made the 

831
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,200
claim that the killings occurred
in 4445 at a time of extreme 

832
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,100
crisis. 
So, many of the numbers. 

833
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,800
That are purported to be from 
this Holocaust. 

834
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,300
Come from starvation. 
It comes from the fact that the 

835
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:59,000
Allies had bombed supply lines 
touch it. 

836
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,200
Even German soldiers weren't 
getting that weren't getting 

837
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,800
fed. 
There's a big debate over how 

838
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,400
the off switch camp. 
For example, was organized. 

839
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,100
They did have their own 
currency. 

840
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:15,000
They did work. 
So many the Survivor stories are

841
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,700
contradictory. 
Many of them have been exposed 

842
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:18,800
as fraudulent. 
This Is War time. 

843
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:23,700
We don't really know what it's 
like to be. 

844
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:29,500
That's why on the losing side of
a war and having to wrap rally, 

845
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:31,400
your men. 
I know. 

846
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,800
It's pretty commonly accepted 
that in the East, the partisans 

847
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,800
played a huge role in the German
defeat. 

848
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:41,300
But I remember even as a young 
man, I said, I can't believe 

849
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:47,800
that Hitler would spend the 
tremendous resources necessary 

850
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,500
to create these camps with 
millions of people when he had 

851
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:53,900
nothing. 
When, you know, they, they 

852
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:59,700
weren't feeding Soldiers. 
The fuel had had almost run out.

853
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,300
He's gonna spend money on that, 
but they were security threat. 

854
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,800
They were hemmed in on both. 
The Soviets to the east, of 

855
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,200
course, the German lines to the 
West, they were attached to the 

856
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,000
partisan unit, even even in the 
Warsaw Ghetto. 

857
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,400
So, these were armed 
communities, the pogroms of the 

858
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,500
same way these worked, you know,
did not they're not as some 

859
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:21,400
people are armed. 
There's some of them were 

860
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,100
trained in the Jewish combat 
Brigade, things like this. 

861
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:26,500
They did put up an impressive 
fight. 

862
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,300
But after the war, when 
reparations were offered the 

863
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:35,900
number early on the number that 
came to claim them was 9 

864
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:40,600
million. 
But the the number of Jews even 

865
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,600
within this sphere of influence 
was certainly less than six 

866
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,200
million. 
And I think David Cole and we 

867
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,500
will agree on that. 
Respect but like Cole. 

868
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,700
And like a few others, the 
political use of the Holocaust 

869
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:01,300
is really my big issue. 
And that this is a way to 

870
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,300
delegitimize social nationalism 
because they're allegedly a part

871
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:09,400
of this. 
And therefore, the only two 

872
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,000
options in the world at the time
were liberalism and communism, 

873
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,400
which is exactly what happened 
after after the war. 

874
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,900
The establishment of Israel, had
a lot to do with the Holocaust. 

875
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:24,800
So there's a lot of problems 
with the feasts. 

876
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:27,300
There's a lot of problems with 
this. 

877
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:31,800
Incredibly meticulous 
mass-produced, death machine and

878
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,500
an Empire that was dying. 
It simply didn't have the 

879
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:39,500
resources to do this. 
Ultimately, I believe that if 

880
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:41,900
you were to ask, if we could 
resurrect a national socialist 

881
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:44,100
Minister today and ask, why are 
these here? 

882
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,500
Why are these camps here? 
They would say because Judaism 

883
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:52,100
especially in the Soviet Union 
is heavily. 

884
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:54,000
I'm sorry. 
Communism in the Soviet Union is

885
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,200
heavily Jewish. 
You have a tremendous amount of 

886
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,400
sympathy to the USSR amongst the
Jewish population of drumming on

887
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,400
certainly true. 
So and that was that was the 

888
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,800
issue. 
A lot of the deaf. 

889
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:11,000
Both came from starvation. 
As I said, Germany was not 

890
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000
prepared for that War. 
I Germany didn't even have 

891
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,800
long-range bombers or heavy 
tanks. 

892
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:19,300
They invaded the USSR. 
It was almost a sacrificed 

893
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,300
Mission. 
Romanian was her only source. 

894
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:25,400
But 1941, there were already. 
Berlin was already being bombed 

895
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,100
by the British. 
They were using mostly light 

896
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:32,500
tanks. 
They had there was no chance of 

897
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,400
them occupying. 
The u.s. 

898
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,800
Is on the Icebreaker book was a 
brilliant analysis of this. 

899
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,200
His military was not all that 
strong. 

900
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:49,200
He had talented Commanders. 
But so, and this is, this is a 

901
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,800
huge part of part of the issue. 
Have this massive Invasion and 

902
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,600
even the East is really where 
I'm more comfortable. 

903
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,100
Anyway, it wasn't an again, a 
security issue. 

904
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,100
The Germans simply didn't have 
the resources. 

905
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:08,900
To engage in something like 
this, the camp, certainly 

906
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:15,500
existed, but starvation on a 
court disease, typhus, which 

907
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:18,900
also is connected to starvation,
is responsible for these deaths 

908
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:22,200
but there's nothing separating 
the Jews from a lot of other 

909
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,700
people in that respect. 
It was a, you know, he again, 

910
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:28,900
because he the u.s. 
Blocked immigration. 

911
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,000
The have our agreement and was 
controlled by Britain and Middle

912
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
East was controlled by, Britain 
was blocked there. 

913
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,700
And of course, the Madagascar 
issue, It was French colony and 

914
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:42,500
they had taken friends. 
So again, they were willing to 

915
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,400
and these agreements Jews could 
leave, which was a Zionist 

916
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,400
issue. 
I think we talked about this, 

917
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,800
the last time. 
If I'm not mistaken, it was 

918
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,200
someone I do. 
So many of these, I can never 

919
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,900
remember how our agreement comes
up. 

920
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:56,800
Quite a bit that I've seen a 
coin from that they were. 

921
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,000
It was a, it was a currency used
for this as a swastika and one 

922
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,400
side and star David on the 
other. 

923
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:06,300
And of course, you currency in 
the in the camps as well. 

924
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,100
I've got four, I lost my train 
of thought we were, these 

925
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:17,300
transfers were the first 
solution. 

926
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:21,100
And camps. 
I guess we're the final, but I 

927
00:56:21,107 --> 00:56:24,100
don't think they were meant to 
kill anybody that were meant for

928
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:28,600
labor. 
And, but God, even as early as 

929
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:34,200
43, the war was over. 
The luftwaffe had had been had 

930
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,200
been broken the advance in the 
Soviet Union was stalled and 

931
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,800
there was no Hope of Victory. 
The Soviets were overwhelmingly 

932
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,200
more powerful than the Germans 
and the minute. 

933
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,400
They took Romania. 
That's it. 

934
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,300
The Germans are cut off from 
fuel. 

935
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,100
That's why they tried to invent 
a plane that ran on coal. 

936
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:58,700
And that's the context for for 
lot of this, especially in the 

937
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:04,500
East now, no one's going to 
accept or Justify or do any 

938
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:07,000
special pleading for the killing
of women and children, 

939
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,700
especially they're not 
combatants by the combatants in 

940
00:57:09,700 --> 00:57:11,400
the Eastern Front often didn't 
wear uniforms. 

941
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:15,600
And that case, that would not be
protected by international law. 

942
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,100
The Guerrilla Army has to have 
uniform and chain of command. 

943
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:25,100
A lot of these groups did not. 
So, I don't know how many, where

944
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:26,900
these numbers are coming from 
what they're basing. 

945
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:33,600
It on trying to look important. 
But when you have 9 million 

946
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,700
Jews, applying for benefits, at 
the end of the war, you have a 

947
00:57:36,707 --> 00:57:40,300
bit of a problem. 
But ultimately, I think it comes

948
00:57:40,300 --> 00:57:45,000
down to labor and security. 
And finally deaths were from, 

949
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,900
again, overwhelmingly from 
starvation and typhus when it 

950
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:55,900
comes to the gas chamber 
discussion, I think his name is 

951
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Fran, check Piper. 
The guy who was director of the 

952
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Holocaust Museum in David 
Cole's, first documentary and 

953
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,700
the 90s with Ernst zündel, where
he had said that. 

954
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:12,600
What you see when you go to 
Auschwitz, is actually a Soviet 

955
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:15,600
reconstruction of what was 
previously there. 

956
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,600
But so beaten down that the 
Soviets chose to build it back 

957
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,900
up in order to preserve its 
historical Integrity. 

958
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:26,500
Are you saying that that is 
completely fake? 

959
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,300
And it's a story that was told 
as atrocity propaganda by the 

960
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:34,500
Soviets. 
Actually, well, of course the 

961
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:38,500
camp existed. 
But it was colds analysis of 

962
00:58:38,508 --> 00:58:41,300
that years and years ago. 
That was really my first 

963
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,600
probably, the very first piece 
of of information concerning the

964
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,600
revisionist point of view of the
Holocaust. 

965
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,500
When you have walls that have no
bullet holes in them. 

966
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,400
When you have two different 
kinds of architecture. 

967
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,300
When you have chimneys that are 
just almost laid on the top, the

968
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:05,600
Soviets had. 
Every reason in the world to 

969
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,500
push all their atrocities onto 
onto the Germans. 

970
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,900
They were an easy target that 
were low hanging fruit. 

971
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:15,700
That Captain Massacre is one of 
the most obvious examples and 

972
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:17,600
it's all about propaganda and 
public opinion. 

973
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,700
So, the Soviets had an interest 
in doing them. 

974
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,600
Boy, the guy who makes the 
plaque at Auschwitz, you know, 

975
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,200
it's got to be a millionaire 
because every couple of weeks. 

976
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,900
There's a new number used to be 
every day. 

977
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:32,300
I used to be something like 4 
million. 

978
00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:34,300
Now, it's down to, I don't even 
know what it's down to them. 

979
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,100
The numbers, keep shrinking, and
shrinking and shrinking, which 

980
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:41,300
you would have, you would think 
that you should be happy for ya.

981
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,200
I never understood that they 
became such a part of the 

982
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,300
identity that I don't 
understand, you know, they 

983
00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:48,800
should be happy that the numbers
aren't that high compared with 

984
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,400
others. 
But you know, as far as a juicer

985
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,700
concerned that were not the only
threat to the German Empire that

986
00:59:54,700 --> 00:59:58,200
we're not the only people in the
camps what made them special was

987
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,300
their wealth? 
And the fact that they were 

988
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:03,300
tremendously sympathetic to the 
USSR. 

989
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,400
Don't forget, Germany, lost a 
part of its territory in the 

990
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,900
Bavarian People's Republic for a
while. 

991
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,900
It was entirely Jewish, the 
Hungarian, People's Republic was

992
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:14,500
exclusively. 
It was said that the upper 

993
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:17,000
levels. 
In fact, Stalin even said to 

994
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,300
Béla Kun through name was Cohen.
Said okay. 

995
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:22,200
Every single person is cabinet 
is a Jew. 

996
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,600
Please find someone who's not 
and make him president and it 

997
01:00:26,607 --> 01:00:28,000
took a very long time. 
Again. 

998
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,600
I'm like know, the name here, 
the man who became president of 

999
01:00:30,607 --> 01:00:32,300
hungry. 
He's the one who made the 

1000
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:36,200
speech. 
So there was some good reason. 

1001
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:42,000
For him to be very suspicious. 
But and of course, A desperate 

1002
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,200
need for labor. 
But by 4445, where most of the 

1003
01:00:47,207 --> 01:00:51,200
deaths were concerned, the war 
was pretty much over the network

1004
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,000
of supplies had broken down or 
I'll was nothing. 

1005
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,600
You had a handful of bring it to
get very few guards. 

1006
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,400
At these places. 
These are all self government. 

1007
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:04,700
Every man had to be at the front
and you know, Mass Slaughter 

1008
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:05,900
doesn't make a whole lot of 
sense. 

1009
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,300
They were meant to work. 
I think I'll switch initially 

1010
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:16,200
was a synthetic fuel plan. 
And you know, but yeah the 

1011
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,700
crimes against them are those 
crimes against everybody 

1012
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:21,200
especially against Germany at 
the end of the war. 

1013
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:26,100
It's one of many as I started 
off with the Holocaust. 

1014
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:28,500
Always irritated me. 
There's nothing special about 

1015
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:32,700
this. 
There was no organized drive to 

1016
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:37,600
gas every Jew in the world. 
It was near the end with result 

1017
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,200
of starvation and panic and we 
all know what happened to the 

1018
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,700
Nuremberg trials. 
We know the torture. 

1019
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:46,100
We know that people were were 
made to say things. 

1020
01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:48,300
They had to Hermann. 
Goering is one of my favorites. 

1021
01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:53,300
And so that's work. 
That's already really what it 

1022
01:01:53,308 --> 01:01:56,600
comes down to and what it during
say, at Nuremberg. 

1023
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,800
Okay, that's ready to read it. 
A few minutes ago. 

1024
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:08,800
Goring said something similar to
Gold and the time, you know, he 

1025
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,400
wasn't sure what awaited him. 
A lot of these guys. 

1026
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:20,500
Thought it mitting, things would
get them. 

1027
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:23,600
A lighter sentence and it was 
never the case Rudolf höss. 

1028
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,200
The same way. 
The minute Rudolf hoess. 

1029
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,800
The guy get one of the 
commandant of Auschwitz sign 

1030
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,400
that document. 
He rejected it. 

1031
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,500
He signed this document saying 
yes, I saw all these gas things 

1032
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,300
and everything else things that 
didn't make any sense like, you 

1033
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:42,200
know, guessing opening the door 
and then putting more people in 

1034
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:48,600
It takes 20 hours for zyklon B, 
to be able to be out of the area

1035
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,900
and make it safe. 
And these guys had no gloves or 

1036
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,800
anything else. 
You sign this, he didn't get the

1037
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,400
the sentence he thought. 
And then repudiated. 

1038
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,200
So I would never, I would never 
take anything that comes from 

1039
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,500
nurnberg as a. 
I wouldn't take it. 

1040
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:09,200
Seriously, I would never take it
at face value. 

1041
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,200
And how did this six million gas
chamber? 

1042
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,600
Plan to exterminate. 
How did this ball get rolling? 

1043
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,800
What do you mean? 
I don't think it was a plan. 

1044
01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:25,600
What do you talk about? 
I mean, how did it look? 

1045
01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:28,000
Let's say that. 
What we're dealing with here is 

1046
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:32,300
a historical fabrication. 
How did what is the origin of 

1047
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:35,000
this gas chamber, extermination 
line? 

1048
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:37,500
How did it start? 
That's that's a very good 

1049
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:38,900
question. 
It's very hard to answer. 

1050
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,200
I think it does start in the 
USSR. 

1051
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:47,800
It took a while for this in the 
Holocaust, was not a common word

1052
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:53,200
until the 60s. 
Really until after the Six-Day 

1053
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,500
War, it began to be promoted 
before them returning, jian's 

1054
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:00,700
talked about the mass 
starvation, the bodies that they

1055
01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:04,600
found and although the concept 
of this mask gassing had been 

1056
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,900
around from the very end of the 
war. 

1057
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:12,200
It didn't become a matter of 
Popular parlance until several 

1058
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,000
decades. 
Later. 

1059
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:19,000
So now I'm going to do have 
Soviet propaganda and Soviet 

1060
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,500
papers being written on this 
very problem. 

1061
01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:25,300
That was was big into this but 
also the survivors And again, 

1062
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:27,300
it's just one group of people. 
I do not take seriously, the 

1063
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:29,700
survivors of these camps. 
Everyone tells a different 

1064
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:31,300
story. 
Everyone's a hero. 

1065
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:35,200
Everyone did tremendous things. 
We need such a badge of honor 

1066
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:38,000
for these people that you, of 
course. 

1067
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,600
They have a slight defectors 
from North Korea. 

1068
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,100
They have every reason in the 
world to accentuate their 

1069
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,800
important. 
So it wasn't instant. 

1070
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,600
It took quite a while for this 
to get a ball rolling as, as you

1071
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,900
would say Nuremberg, of course, 
was just the first step. 

1072
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,000
Up, but people didn't realize 
just how bad nürnberg was from a

1073
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,200
legal point of view, how so many
of the admissions there were 

1074
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:05,900
false or done under duress, or 
done her. 

1075
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:09,700
Some kind of promise or simply 
from from Panic or mental 

1076
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:15,800
illness. 
Is one of the reasons that the 

1077
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,700
Soviets were able to take that 
and increase it and the 6 

1078
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:21,400
million I think is a significant
figure. 

1079
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,100
In the Kabbalah. 
The number 6 is always been 

1080
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:29,300
significant and I think the very
first time the Six Million 

1081
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:32,300
figure was used during the 
pogroms in the late 19th 

1082
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:35,300
century. 
The earliest I could find the 

1083
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:39,200
Pittsburgh Jewish news mentioned
six million killed in the 

1084
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,300
kitchen. 
If program I'm almost certain 

1085
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:47,400
about that 6 million in the 
Soviet. 

1086
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,800
I'm sorry in the Russian Empire 
comes up again and again and 

1087
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,500
again either killed or 
imprisoned. 

1088
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,400
So the Six Million figure was 
also used after World War One. 

1089
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:00,200
I can't, I don't have the 
citation on off the top of my 

1090
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,200
head. 
But I have an entire list of 

1091
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,300
usage of the word of the phrase,
six million, going back to, at 

1092
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:11,300
least the end of the 19th 
century. 

1093
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:16,700
So, you know, Jews are very 
powerful in media do specially 

1094
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:22,700
after the foundation of Israel, 
had an interest in this always 

1095
01:06:22,700 --> 01:06:25,100
had an interest in this, the 
Allies had an interest in this. 

1096
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:28,700
The Allies, you know, 
carpet-bombed, Germany and 

1097
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:30,800
Japan. 
They could have surrendered in 

1098
01:06:30,808 --> 01:06:36,700
1943 but Roosevelt wanted Total 
War and abject surrender, which 

1099
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:40,200
led to mass deaths. 
I wonder if that didn't happen. 

1100
01:06:40,700 --> 01:06:42,000
What would have happened to the 
camps? 

1101
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:49,500
So it's not hard for this to get
off the ground when you have a 

1102
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:51,600
so many people. 
So many powerful people who have

1103
01:06:51,607 --> 01:06:54,500
an interest in promoting making 
the Germans look, terrible. 

1104
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,600
This is oral or one case to 
making the Germans look terrible

1105
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,900
Justified. 
Everything that They did, you 

1106
01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:02,500
got to automatique bombs on 
Japan. 

1107
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:07,700
You had the torching of cities 
sometimes of no military value. 

1108
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,300
You had the mass killing to PO, 
wff pows after the war. 

1109
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,100
The sinking of ships with German
refugees on it is it, you know, 

1110
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:20,800
and when you when that's 
happening need to justify it. 

1111
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,600
And a lot of these camp stories,
so that's that. 

1112
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,400
That's the list of things, you 
know, survivors media Soviets 

1113
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:34,200
the allies and this belief that 
somehow when you see it pile 

1114
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,300
bodies, there was somehow 
murdered on purpose rather than 

1115
01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:42,000
starve door or died of some 
disease and I still World War 

1116
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,900
Two vets used to say that all 
the time and they went into the 

1117
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:47,200
other camps. 
This will be of interest. 

1118
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,700
I'm going to say is the most 
powerful and I think they got 

1119
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:51,400
the ball rolling but not until 
the 60s. 

1120
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:57,300
Becoming a common thing when I 
think of other historical lies, 

1121
01:07:57,300 --> 01:07:59,600
one of the ones that it's 
amazing. 

1122
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,100
The power that lies can have 
when they're just Omission lies 

1123
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,100
that it was never explicitly. 
Said to me, Germany started the 

1124
01:08:07,107 --> 01:08:11,100
bombing, but it was so heavily 
implied that I just always 

1125
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:13,300
assumed it. 
Until I read people like 

1126
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:16,700
Nicholson Baker, his book, human
smoke until I read Pat 

1127
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:19,700
Buchanan's Churchill Hitler in 
the unnecessary War where he 

1128
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:24,100
cites Frederick, Lindemann. 
Who was a an advisor to 

1129
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:28,399
Churchill in the scientific 
area, where he was very Pro 

1130
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:34,600
bombing, civilian areas to hit 
the morale of people in Germany,

1131
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,700
and Baker, in human smoke just 
list off all the German cities 

1132
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:42,399
that had been bomb before there 
was ever a bomb dropped on 

1133
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:46,300
Britain. 
So so so many lives are not 

1134
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:48,600
explicit. 
There's just heavily nudged and 

1135
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,399
implied yesterday. 
There was one Bob Bloom. 

1136
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:52,899
Argh. 
Oh gosh. 

1137
01:08:52,899 --> 01:08:54,399
It was one of the Bloomberg 
Outlets. 

1138
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,500
They said here are here's a list
of, you know, people who died at

1139
01:08:59,500 --> 01:09:02,000
the January. 6th, quote 
Insurrection. 

1140
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,899
First, Brian sick. 
Nick is an officer who died 

1141
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,800
after getting in a fight. 
What they don't tell you is he 

1142
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,100
had gone to the hospital and 
later had a stroke. 

1143
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:14,000
The next day. 
He was in horrible condition. 

1144
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:18,399
They don't mention, of course, 
that there was a drug overdose 

1145
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,399
and out of the, you know, 
hundreds of thousands of people.

1146
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:25,600
All that were quote involved, 
some diet of unrelated causes. 

1147
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,600
So the fact that we're living 
through explicit lies like this,

1148
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:35,600
or if you remember Trump saying 
the whole white National saying 

1149
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,300
that, but there were fine people
on both sides. 

1150
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:42,600
He was referring to the Statue 
debate, not find people on both 

1151
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,600
sides of the, you know, 
klansmen, antifa debacle. 

1152
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,500
We see these in real time. 
There was one that said, Donald 

1153
01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:53,600
Trump told people to Drink 
bleach when he was talking about

1154
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,100
using disinfectant light as a 
method of killing a virus, which

1155
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:03,200
is an actual thing. 
So, we have real examples in, 

1156
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:08,000
you know, twenty twenty. 
One of many people buying into 

1157
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,800
explicit lies. 
What are some other big 

1158
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,800
historical lies outside of the 
second world war? 

1159
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:16,800
Oh my god. 
Do you have seven hours? 

1160
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:20,400
I do you have you have 10 hours?
Uh, oh not for you. 

1161
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,600
Yeah, of course. 
Yes. 

1162
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:28,300
I have a paper on the. 
Well, there's I have papers on 

1163
01:10:28,300 --> 01:10:34,200
everything, my God. 
I already mentioned the military

1164
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,500
dictators of Latin America. 
The left has had a Stranglehold 

1165
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:41,800
on that narrative largely, 
because the Catholic church is 

1166
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:49,300
on their side for decades. 
I can, I was barely able to find

1167
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:51,600
anything in Spanish or in 
English. 

1168
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:57,400
That gave a positive review. 
Of any of these guns, Pinochet 

1169
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,500
was one exception because he's 
well known. 

1170
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,200
They claim is, is that these 
people had no etiology. 

1171
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:09,200
There were simply out for power.
That's not true that they serve 

1172
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,700
the landlord class, which most 
certainly is not true. 

1173
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,200
And that there were supported by
the United States. 

1174
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,200
Not only isn't true, you know, 
even people like Batista. 

1175
01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:23,800
We're popular in Cuba. 
Most of these guys are military 

1176
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,300
dictatorship develops because 
the civilian government 

1177
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:30,400
collapses and it collapses 
because they can't come to any 

1178
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,100
consensus on what to do about 
the Usually, it's some kind of 

1179
01:11:33,108 --> 01:11:36,300
hyperinflation or mass 
unemployment or recovery from 

1180
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:39,800
something and the usually 
wealthy people bickering and 

1181
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,400
nothing gets done. 
The minute a military man takes 

1182
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,000
action. 
So one of these guys are from 

1183
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,400
the lower classes from The 
Peasant classes, they become 

1184
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,700
very popular and they tend in 
certain most places to get the 

1185
01:11:50,708 --> 01:11:54,600
job done very well. 
You know, the military took over

1186
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:59,300
for this every country in Latin 
America one time or another for 

1187
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:02,700
this because the Communists were
bombing people in the street 

1188
01:12:03,300 --> 01:12:06,500
that they were torching police 
station, and whether you have 

1189
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:10,200
the drug money mixed into that 
and when the military was 

1190
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,100
overthrown, then you had these 
banana republics connected with 

1191
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:16,200
the IMF taking over and then 
they fall deeper and deeper into

1192
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,800
into poverty. 
So that's that's a big one for 

1193
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,700
me. 
You know, really if you want to 

1194
01:12:22,708 --> 01:12:24,700
talk about all the lies of the 
other ruling class. 

1195
01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:28,700
It's my my brain freezes. 
I'm going to tell you that 

1196
01:12:28,700 --> 01:12:31,100
everything and I mean everything
that the average educated 

1197
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:32,800
American believes about the 
world was false. 

1198
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:41,000
So let's let's take a an example
of a fake testimony in the early

1199
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,500
90s in Desert Storm. 
There was a woman called the 

1200
01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:51,100
Nigerian naira the nurse from 
Kuwait who had said on TV. 

1201
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:54,200
It's recorded. 
You can see her crying that. 

1202
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,500
While she was in Kuwait. 
The Iraqi Army came in took the 

1203
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:01,100
babies out of the incubators and
left them to die in the cold 

1204
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:04,600
floor. 
This was repeated by President 

1205
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,900
of America, George Bush senior, 
at the time. 

1206
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,400
Also, by a number of Senators. 
This is an example of atrocity 

1207
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:16,300
propaganda because it turns out 
an organization Hill and 

1208
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:20,600
Knowlton had worked with the US 
ambassador to Kuwait. 

1209
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,700
And that was his daughter. 
This woman was not a nurse in 

1210
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:26,500
Kuwait. 
So if we could fall for a scam 

1211
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:30,800
in the 90s, when there's a lot 
more, when there's more people 

1212
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,000
with more access to TVs, who 
could maybe counteracts. 

1213
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:37,400
Of narrative like that. 
It's not too unreal to think 

1214
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,400
that lies like that can go 
widespread. 

1215
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,300
I'm trying to think 09:11 had 
something to do with invading 

1216
01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:47,800
Afghanistan. 
That was one because there was a

1217
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,000
plan to invade Afghanistan 
called National Security, 

1218
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,300
Presidential Directive 9, I 
think on September 4th 2001, 

1219
01:13:55,700 --> 01:13:59,800
which was mentioned by Donald 
Rumsfeld and is March 23 2004 

1220
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,000
testimony to Congress So the 
plan was already in action 

1221
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,100
people just That they did it 
because of 9/11. 

1222
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,300
But what are what are some other
ones? 

1223
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:12,500
Because I really want to nail 
this, I really want to nail this

1224
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:16,500
down that there are widespread 
wide believed historical lies 

1225
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,800
that are false and they're, you 
know, they're specially when the

1226
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,000
cost of rejecting them as hi. 
Yeah. 

1227
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,400
This is one of the reasons that 
they get maintained. 

1228
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:29,500
I mean, there's really no end to
them. 

1229
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:37,700
Excuse me the gas attack. 
In Syria a few years ago, which 

1230
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:43,000
was The Economist a dog whistle 
for everyone to hate Assad 

1231
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,600
there. 
Now. 

1232
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,300
I never felt like I was in 
college when that incubator 

1233
01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:50,300
story came out I didn't fall for
it. 

1234
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,900
How many men specially family 
men in uniform are just going to

1235
01:14:53,900 --> 01:14:57,000
do that? 
They're Muslim babies. 

1236
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,100
It didn't make any sense to me. 
They didn't serve their 

1237
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,600
interest. 
There was no cui Bono of it. 

1238
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,500
But the gas attack in Syria. 
I think I was the first person 

1239
01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:11,400
to write about that right after 
it happened because he was 

1240
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,100
winning the war with time. 
This was before the Russian 

1241
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:16,900
intervention. 
He was winning the war handling.

1242
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:22,100
And so again, the question 
always comes up is cui Bono. 

1243
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:26,300
What, what, what's in it for 
him, knowing full, well, or 

1244
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:29,200
these these assassination 
attempt to Putin, allegedly does

1245
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,000
with his enemy. 
These people know full well that

1246
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,300
if they were to pull this stuff 
off, they would be condemned 

1247
01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:42,100
crucified. 
And and under attack 

1248
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:43,600
immediately. 
That would give the 

1249
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,500
justification. 
For all the policy that the West

1250
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:52,300
has against these places. 
Bashar al-assad knew that if he 

1251
01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:55,000
actually were to use poison gas,
which by the way, the rebels 

1252
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,900
did. 
But I forget what year off, the 

1253
01:15:58,907 --> 01:16:01,300
top of my head. 
It was very crudely, made 

1254
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:05,700
missile that had gas in. 
It allegedly had gas in it. 

1255
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,900
He knew that the West would be 
on him. 

1256
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,500
It would just maybe even an 
invasion. 

1257
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:14,600
And would destroy him in the 
international Arena. 

1258
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,700
He has every reason not to do 
that. 

1259
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,900
And we talked about propaganda, 
took that all these things. 

1260
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:25,400
These are some of the marks, the
incubator story at some time. 

1261
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,700
I knew it was ridiculous. 
My father, who was a, who died 

1262
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,500
19 years ago today, who was a 
combat Marine in Korea. 

1263
01:16:35,300 --> 01:16:39,700
He said, I refuse to believe 
that Soldier. 

1264
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,000
With families at home are going 
to just kill other. 

1265
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,500
Muslims are babies for no 
reason. 

1266
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,800
It was blatant. 
Propagate was crude in that 

1267
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:50,700
sense. 
Very crude. 

1268
01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:52,900
Propaganda. 
Propaganda, couldn't be more 

1269
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:57,700
subtle can be crude. 
So you really just never ends. 

1270
01:16:57,700 --> 01:16:59,100
There really is. 
Especially now, you know what 

1271
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:03,600
Johnson's law is this dovetails?
Just exactly what we're talking 

1272
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,500
about. 
I don't know if I'll be talked 

1273
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:08,700
about it, the last time 
Johnson's law, which I named her

1274
01:17:08,708 --> 01:17:12,600
after myself, of course. 
That the more obscure the 

1275
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:17,500
country or region, the more the 
system can lie about it because 

1276
01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:22,300
it's very few, people who know 
any better or alternatively, the

1277
01:17:22,300 --> 01:17:27,100
more obscure the country, the 
more that journalists will make 

1278
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:29,600
mistakes about it and not 
realize that they're making it, 

1279
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,600
we're not even care. 
They are North Korea, is your 

1280
01:17:31,608 --> 01:17:33,200
classic example, no one's 
allowed there. 

1281
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:38,600
The Defector stories are awful, 
you know, no one's pouring 

1282
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,000
molten lead in prison and down 
their throat and ridiculous 

1283
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,500
stories people don't realize 
they're being paid. 

1284
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:51,200
So again, these are also marks 
of of propaganda. 

1285
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,900
Anyway, as far as this is 
concerned, you know, propaganda 

1286
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,500
manipulation Machiavelli is all.
It's all one in the same thing. 

1287
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:03,000
Exactly what we're talking about
here. 

1288
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:10,800
If you could try and think of 
one more lie, try going to the 

1289
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,800
first world war try and think of
one others that come to mind for

1290
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,100
me during the attack on the 
Waco, on the church. 

1291
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:22,000
And Waco, Janet, Reno said, 
babies were being beaten. 

1292
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:27,200
No, such thing was taking place 
during Libya the invasion in 

1293
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:30,800
the, under Obama Wolf, Blitzer 
on CN. 

1294
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,200
N said, Gaddafi is giving is 
true. 

1295
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,400
Oops, Viagra to commit Mass 
rape. 

1296
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:40,200
The New York Times, said that 
Russia and Putin were paying to 

1297
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,200
assassinate American troops and 
even see in Afghanistan. 

1298
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,300
Yeah, ABC's showed footage 
footage. 

1299
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:52,800
So this is proof so we know it 
happened of Assad or gosh who 

1300
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,600
was it. 
If they had said that Assad was 

1301
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,800
indiscriminately killing the 
Kurds, I believe it was it. 

1302
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,900
I don't think it was harder one.
I'm pretty sure it had to have 

1303
01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:06,700
been At the time and they said 
here's the footage and it turns 

1304
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:13,100
out it was the footage from a 
Kentucky gun range that pass 

1305
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,200
that ABC had used instead. 
Now, think of first of all 

1306
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,800
blatant lie that tugs at your 
heartstrings, you think you're 

1307
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:25,000
seeing something that you're not
actually seeing and imagine like

1308
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:30,600
the likelihood that someone saw 
those flames and said, I think 

1309
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,300
ABC's lying those Flames look 
familiar. 

1310
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:37,600
Are who would have thought that 
it's just so unbelievable that 

1311
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,800
they almost got away with that 
and that easily could have 

1312
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,600
started a World War no-fly zone 
in Syria because of them, 

1313
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,400
killing the troops. 
That's Russian airspace. 

1314
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:51,500
And that's war with Russia 
regime change for the Putin 

1315
01:19:51,500 --> 01:19:55,400
Administration. 
So, this is how bad the lies are

1316
01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:58,800
in this year, with social media,
the internet, all these TV 

1317
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,400
stations, so it'll just drive 
you crazy. 

1318
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:04,700
Give me. 
One more historical. 

1319
01:20:04,700 --> 01:20:07,900
I may preferably around the 
first world war, but anything 

1320
01:20:07,900 --> 01:20:11,700
will do, oh, well, what 
immediately came to mind? 

1321
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:13,900
Even the beginning of this 
program was Isis? 

1322
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:21,300
again, I was the first one to 
rip apart, this ridiculous story

1323
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:27,700
that somehow out of nowhere, a 
gigantic army with a rational 

1324
01:20:27,700 --> 01:20:32,100
chain of command and tons of 
money and uniforms and 

1325
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:35,500
standardized equipment, and a 
prison system, and a currency, 

1326
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:40,500
not to mention tankers to ship 
Oil, Spring up overnight without

1327
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,800
anyone noticing They never 
attack Israel. 

1328
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,200
They never attack American 
targets. 

1329
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,400
They only attack enemies and the
syrians have said this the 

1330
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,900
Iranians say this all the time. 
They murdered soleimani two 

1331
01:20:52,900 --> 01:20:56,600
years ago. 
It was at the almost. 

1332
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,400
You know, Isis was the main 
beneficiary of that because he 

1333
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,100
was formulating a plan to 
destroy them. 

1334
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:04,900
The Taliban are perpetually at 
war with ISIS. 

1335
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,500
And they all say, the same 
thing. 

1336
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:08,100
This is this comes from and 
Russians. 

1337
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:10,600
Due to, this is an American 
creation. 

1338
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,000
This comes from American 
intelligent. 

1339
01:21:13,700 --> 01:21:18,000
People don't realize that every 
penny that goes into a bank 

1340
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,600
account in that part of the 
world, especially if there's 

1341
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,800
any, you know, suspicions about 
them is is monitor. 

1342
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,300
Do you have satellites 
monitoring this place every 

1343
01:21:26,300 --> 01:21:27,900
square inch of this place? 
All the time? 

1344
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,600
Their camps are out in the open?
They trained out in the open. 

1345
01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:34,300
There's no way this could have 
formed without anyone noticing. 

1346
01:21:34,300 --> 01:21:39,400
It's absolutely absurd. 
Then as they're being supported 

1347
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:44,000
by the West, the craziest, most 
vicious stories are circulating 

1348
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,100
again, always, including babies 
rapes that they're engaged in. 

1349
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,900
Even the name, the things that 
struck me was the name Isis. 

1350
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,400
First of all, the s is like in 
snake. 

1351
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,600
It's a typical me man in 
Hollywood. 

1352
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,800
The S is used. 
Isis is, you know, kind of an 

1353
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:07,900
obscure occult idea. 
Not to mention in English, the 

1354
01:22:07,900 --> 01:22:11,300
pronunciation of a pagan Goddess
of Egypt, which no muslim, 

1355
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:15,600
whatever call themselves and 
it's a typical. 

1356
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,000
There's an Isis. 
I can't remember. 

1357
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,100
Think it's an Archer. 
One of the bad organization is 

1358
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,900
called Isis. 
I forget which one. 

1359
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:26,700
It's your Classic Hollywood, bad
guy named, and it sounds evil, 

1360
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,200
and this formulated and, and 
created a thing of massive. 

1361
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,800
Almost, a country was formed. 
Just at the time when Americans 

1362
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,300
were growing, weary of the war 
in Afghanistan or in the Middle 

1363
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:43,200
East, in general. 
And the most ridiculous story of

1364
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,300
a slave markets and everything. 
They came up with were designed 

1365
01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:49,800
to inflame the Americans. 
We need to go and fight. 

1366
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,100
These people need to stay there 
and even commit more troops 

1367
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:57,400
there to destroy them. 
Despite the fact that the u.s. 

1368
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,700
Was backing them. 
The proof is just overwhelming 

1369
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,100
that these, this equipment, this
money, this guidance. 

1370
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:06,700
You can't create a militia 
overnight. 

1371
01:23:06,700 --> 01:23:08,700
That could fight the Syrian Army
to a standstill. 

1372
01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:11,000
Syria is one of the most 
significant military. 

1373
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:16,600
Powers of the of the region. 
So again, you know, Assad always

1374
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,500
says that the Isis doesn't need 
an Air Force because it has his 

1375
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:23,200
room as he Israeli Air Force. 
So it's one of the most 

1376
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,700
outrageous ones to what comes 
from. 

1377
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:28,500
This is number one that this is 
like a homegrown group. 

1378
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,400
There are locals, of course, 
they come from all over. 

1379
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,400
But, you know, this is a 
legitimate group that was formed

1380
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,800
to destroy everything. 
Number two, that the 

1381
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,000
justification for American 
involvement over there is to 

1382
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,800
destroy Isis or number three, 
America. 

1383
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:46,500
It's actually engaging Isis. 
The Taliban has lost a large 

1384
01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:50,300
number of men fighting Isis. 
So when I see headlines talking 

1385
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:52,200
about the collusion between 
those two power, he makes me 

1386
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,100
laugh. 
But again Johnson's will up 

1387
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:57,200
being what it is. 
There's not much you can say, 

1388
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,100
we're talking about in this 
program, you know staying saying

1389
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:05,700
this is my world for 30 years. 
I came of age, you know, I came 

1390
01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:11,800
into this field. 
I was a musician and 1989 when 

1391
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,700
ceausescu was shot by his own 
Army. 

1392
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,300
That's when I changed. 
I was my freshman year in 

1393
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:19,600
college. 
And that's that was the event, 

1394
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,000
that, that was a catalyst for 
everything that I do now, and 

1395
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,800
the Gulf War was the first big 
thing. 

1396
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,400
Desert Shield was the first big 
thing that occurred early in my 

1397
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:35,600
college Years and even I knew 
the as a neophyte, how 

1398
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,100
ridiculous the propaganda was. 
And as I said in the very 

1399
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:44,500
beginning, it's easy to identify
propaganda mythology special 

1400
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:49,900
pleading because it's not in the
interest of the people or powers

1401
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,600
to commit these crimes. 
It doesn't even make sense. 

1402
01:24:53,900 --> 01:24:58,300
It's so obviously designed to 
pull at your heartstrings. 

1403
01:24:58,300 --> 01:25:04,100
As you said that, it's just, 
it's just isn't true and it's 

1404
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,600
the same thing over and over 
again, World War one. 

1405
01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:08,500
I don't know if you've seen some
of the propaganda pictures of 

1406
01:25:08,500 --> 01:25:12,200
the babies on bayonets. 
That drumming now and Belgium, 

1407
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:14,400
Belgium throwing them up in the 
air. 

1408
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,700
You know, this. 
You can you imagine the corpse 

1409
01:25:17,700 --> 01:25:20,100
Factory. 
Yeah. 

1410
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,200
Yeah. 
Could you, can you imagine these

1411
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:26,400
men the family men who missed 
their wives and children with 

1412
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:31,200
every bone in their body. 
Just killing baby for no reason.

1413
01:25:31,900 --> 01:25:33,300
And not only from, you know, for
no reason. 

1414
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:38,900
But committing these atrocities 
anywhere justifies the action of

1415
01:25:38,907 --> 01:25:42,600
your enemies. 
The Taliban were the first group

1416
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,100
of people to condemn the 9/11 
attacks. 

1417
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:47,100
They had no connection to it. 
What's worse? 

1418
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:50,000
Didn't have that kind of power 
and tried to hand over Bin 

1419
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,600
Laden. 
Yeah to. 

1420
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,400
And to any third party country 
that would accept it and they 

1421
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:57,800
will, he ended up in Pakistan. 
He died long time ago. 

1422
01:25:58,700 --> 01:26:01,700
That whole story is, is 
nonsensical, but the Taliban 

1423
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,800
were, well, aware some an attack
like that will justify American 

1424
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,600
soldiers in the Middle East and 
Central, Asia for decades to 

1425
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,100
come. 
And as you mentioned, the war in

1426
01:26:14,108 --> 01:26:20,500
Afghanistan, has been the case 
long before 9/11 and other, I'm 

1427
01:26:20,500 --> 01:26:23,100
sorry to interrupt you. 
But before we before we were too

1428
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:26,600
far away from Isis currently, 
there's a foreign policy advisor

1429
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:30,600
for the Biden Administration. 
Jake Sullivan. 

1430
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:36,300
And he years ago. 
In 2012, wrote an email that was

1431
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:40,300
released under in Hillary State 
Department emails that said, 

1432
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:45,600
Make sure Hillary knows H. 
AQ is on our side and Syria. 

1433
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:51,100
Meaning Al-Qaeda is fighting 
alongside America against Assad 

1434
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,400
in what was called operation 
Timber Sycamore. 

1435
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:58,800
So they're jabhat al-nusra was 
the al-qaida-affiliated group 

1436
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,400
that they were aligned with, of 
course, killing the Isis. 

1437
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:07,000
Enemy soleimani. 
They gave Al Qaeda all of Iraq 

1438
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,600
after overthrowing Saddam, they 
sided with Al-Qaeda against 

1439
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,600
Gaddafi. 
Daffy was one of the first 

1440
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,400
people to call for bin Laden's, 
arrest and like 96. 

1441
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,800
So, there was no good Daffy Bin 
Laden Alliance. 

1442
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,400
So you strengthen Al Qaeda by 
taking out Gaddafi in. 

1443
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:27,100
I think it was 2014. 
Yeah, you know, the siding with 

1444
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:31,900
the rebels in Yemen against the 
Iranian backed regime. 

1445
01:27:31,900 --> 01:27:34,400
There. 
That is another Al-Qaeda 

1446
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,500
Alliance, but they've been 
supporting mujahideen Fighters 

1447
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:41,000
since Afghanistan in 79 with 
Jimmy Carter. 

1448
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:46,000
ER, and zbigniew Brzezinski, so 
I mean, this one is so bad. 

1449
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,400
So evil. 
Like if you would have, told 

1450
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,700
someone on 9/11. 
Hey, we're going to be taking 

1451
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:56,100
these guys, the side of these 
guys and in a war and in a few 

1452
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:58,800
years, people would have just 
like fainted, they would not 

1453
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,500
have been able to comprehend it.
So, yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt

1454
01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:07,000
you, but that Isis point is so 
bad because it took so long and 

1455
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,100
people have just moved on we 
forgot about it now. 

1456
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:11,000
We're now we're back to 
expanding NATO. 

1457
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,400
Every now and then, we'll throw 
China and there. 

1458
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:17,200
But yet Russia's the bad guy 
again for wanting to worry about

1459
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,900
the border with the Ukraine. 
Again, Johnson's wife certainly 

1460
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:25,900
applies there. 
Well, I had some fun with the 

1461
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,000
Isis propaganda. 
Once I believe it was USA Today 

1462
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:38,400
that had a picture of what they 
claim to be a Mossad spy that 

1463
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,000
they had captured digging his 
own grave somewhere. 

1464
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,500
I'm looking at this picture. 
Those are their their Facebook 

1465
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,800
because they able to comment on.
I'm looking at this picture. 

1466
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,900
And first of all, I noticed he's
in an orange jumpsuit like an 

1467
01:28:55,907 --> 01:28:58,700
American prison. 
Why is it Guerrilla group going 

1468
01:28:58,700 --> 01:29:01,400
to have standardized prison 
where that's what they're gonna 

1469
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,100
spend their money on. 
That suggest, that's meant to 

1470
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:06,100
Western audience. 
Who said, okay, he's a prisoner.

1471
01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:07,500
They're not going to do anything
like that. 

1472
01:29:07,500 --> 01:29:10,100
What would they spend money on a
standardized person outfit? 

1473
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:13,300
How can they, possibly create a 
prison system and administration

1474
01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:14,700
overnight? 
Not to mention an army. 

1475
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:18,800
That was the first second thing 
is that Isis has never attacked 

1476
01:29:19,300 --> 01:29:21,900
any kind of Israeli 
infrastructure, but more 

1477
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:26,200
importantly, The jumpsuit was 
perfectly clean. 

1478
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,300
There wasn't a drop of sweat on 
his head. 

1479
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,500
You know, I think and it was, it
was also bad Photoshop. 

1480
01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:38,000
One of the worst things about 
Isis and Isis story has been the

1481
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,000
terrible. 
Photoshopping. 

1482
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,000
There's a part of me that thinks
that they do this kind of thing 

1483
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,700
on purpose. 
I was attacked viciously. 

1484
01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:51,200
For pointing all of this out and
they like I don't take, don't 

1485
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,100
quote me on that. 
USA Today was something like 

1486
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:55,200
that though. 
Mainstream publication newspaper

1487
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,000
by pointing out these obvious 
things and the fact that no one 

1488
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,200
else seemed to notice. 
You talk about, you know, ten 

1489
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,100
thousand, you know, how on 
Facebook about 10,000 responses 

1490
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,700
and I was the only one to did 
nothing here. 

1491
01:30:11,700 --> 01:30:16,300
Makes any sense is no aspect of 
this that makes any sense, but a

1492
01:30:16,308 --> 01:30:18,700
part of me wants to think that 
some of these bad photo shops 

1493
01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:22,800
are done on purpose. 
I think the ruling class, you 

1494
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,500
know, I should put out these 
magazines. 

1495
01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:29,500
Perfect English glossy, you 
know, this massive, massive 

1496
01:30:29,500 --> 01:30:34,100
organization overnight, but they
could do better. 

1497
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,900
In terms of Photoshop, the 
Jordanian pilot that was burned 

1498
01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:42,000
alive in his cage. 
The prisoners being walked on 

1499
01:30:42,008 --> 01:30:46,600
the side of the river with feed,
you know by proportion Isis guys

1500
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,100
were like 7 feet tall really 
bad. 

1501
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,600
The ruling class wants to see 
how far they can push the want 

1502
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:57,300
to see how minimal their effort 
has to be to get people to be 

1503
01:30:57,300 --> 01:30:59,700
convinced. 
And the nicest thing has really 

1504
01:30:59,700 --> 01:31:02,400
been in my mind. 
It's been almost a crisis in 

1505
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,900
National cognition that they can
actually buy the store asking 

1506
01:31:05,900 --> 01:31:12,500
any any even basic critical. 
The constant B Putin 

1507
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:18,400
assassinations using these 
radioactive, you know, it's 

1508
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,900
laughable. 
It's if people are going to know

1509
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:24,700
right away what happened and 
Putin's going to be put on front

1510
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:27,800
center as a bad guy. 
They don't have to do this. 

1511
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:29,200
These are usually very minor 
figures. 

1512
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:32,900
So it's usually these days, it's
very crude. 

1513
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,600
And I think the decline in 
American cognition is so bad 

1514
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,800
that they could have bad 
Photoshop and not care. 

1515
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,900
And they're seeing how much they
can get away with. 

1516
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,700
But I know I went through so 
many of those responses on 

1517
01:31:46,708 --> 01:31:52,600
Facebook about that picture and 
no one was attacked, of course. 

1518
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,600
And no. 
One else picked up on nothing 

1519
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:55,900
about that picture makes 
anything. 

1520
01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:59,300
Including that notion of having 
an orange jumpsuit. 

1521
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,000
I mean, how organized was this 
group that the IRA have standard

1522
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,800
prison jumpsuits for their BMW. 
That pows are all Overnight. 

1523
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:12,200
This group comes into existence 
but Johnson's law, me what it 

1524
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,500
is, of course, very few people 
have the wherewithal to ask 

1525
01:32:15,500 --> 01:32:19,700
these kind of basic questions 
and it causes a great amount of 

1526
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:21,500
suffering. 
I've learned to deal with it. 

1527
01:32:21,900 --> 01:32:24,400
You know, I just turned 50, I 
can, I'm, you know, this used to

1528
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,000
drive me crazy Rises. 
I just don't expect much from 

1529
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,800
people. 
I don't expect much from the 

1530
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:35,200
voter or the, the voting 
mentality, and, you know, 

1531
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:36,800
they're absolutely has to be an 
heiress. 

1532
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,900
Courtesy of sorts, maybe I'll 
institutionalized. 

1533
01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,300
But an aristocracy of those who 
have the leisure time to deeply 

1534
01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:45,800
get into a topic so deeply get 
involved in a specific area. 

1535
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,100
One of the worst things of being
a specialist. 

1536
01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:52,400
As I am is that when another 
special starts talking about it,

1537
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:55,100
the errors are so bad their 
knowledge. 

1538
01:32:55,100 --> 01:33:00,600
So superficial. 
It's a miracle that there's not 

1539
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,200
physical violence. 
So but that's this is this is 

1540
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:09,000
our lot, my friend. 
Let's get into some more tips on

1541
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:14,200
staying sane in the in the world
today when you have I mean, 

1542
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:19,200
explicit lies, Joe, Biden, gen, 
Saki, and Nancy. 

1543
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,700
Pelosi on the same day saying 
that the three point. 

1544
01:33:21,700 --> 01:33:25,200
Five trillion dollar stimulus, 
bill is going to cost zero 

1545
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,600
dollars. 
So so when you're faced with 

1546
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,800
that, how do you stay sane in an
insane world? 

1547
01:33:32,700 --> 01:33:36,900
Well, we say, stay sane. 
It's not as if that particular 

1548
01:33:36,900 --> 01:33:39,200
lie, you're going to cause 
people to go into connections. 

1549
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:42,800
What we really mean is that over
time. 

1550
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,800
These lies not just promoted by 
every single outlet, but also 

1551
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:52,800
enforced by social sanction, the
wear you down, and grind, you 

1552
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,800
down grinding. 
Someone down is a technique. 

1553
01:33:55,700 --> 01:33:59,300
It's a form of abuse, where you 
just render someone helpless and

1554
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:01,100
they accept their their 
helplessness. 

1555
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,700
They truly believe in might one 
of my favorite word's is a 

1556
01:34:04,708 --> 01:34:08,300
Greek. 
Abulia, abulia is not just, it's

1557
01:34:08,300 --> 01:34:13,500
usually defined as lethargy, but
it's not just lethargy by 

1558
01:34:13,500 --> 01:34:15,700
itself. 
It's lethargy from people who 

1559
01:34:15,700 --> 01:34:18,600
don't believe there's anything 
left to fight for I don't have 

1560
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,300
any purpose. 
Mmm. 

1561
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:25,200
You need to be very careful now 
at our tips for surviving them, 

1562
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,600
because over time, you will be 
warned suffering is going to 

1563
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,500
happen. 
You will lose jobs. 

1564
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:33,000
We will lose friends. 
You will lose family member. 

1565
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:36,500
I've been through it all. 
Don't think that somehow you're 

1566
01:34:36,500 --> 01:34:39,100
going to be the exception, you 
have to be prepared for its get 

1567
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:44,400
out of the field. 
But tips as far as our personal 

1568
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,600
life is concerned. 
We can take breaks from time to 

1569
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,100
time. 
You don't have to be reading 

1570
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:50,500
every article. 
We don't have to get into every 

1571
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:53,600
subject. 
We need to be very careful about

1572
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,000
who we arguing. 
Very careful. 

1573
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,400
My opinion is debate should 
always be in writing or on 

1574
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:01,800
social media. 
You actually think out a 

1575
01:35:01,808 --> 01:35:04,900
response and type it out rather 
than the saying it like this. 

1576
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:08,400
When someone makes a good point 
to me that I don't like, I have 

1577
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,500
to think about it, you know, I, 
you know, it takes a while to go

1578
01:35:11,500 --> 01:35:13,500
look at sources. 
Everything is very difficult, 

1579
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:17,900
when it's in verbal and verbal 
altercations, can be really 

1580
01:35:17,900 --> 01:35:19,800
nasty. 
The written was only somewhat. 

1581
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,000
So, you know, people have to 
read, you don't have to listen 

1582
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,600
to you in verbally, you could 
even cite sources. 

1583
01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:30,200
That's a big deal. 
Don't expect too much out of 

1584
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,400
people realize that one in eight
Americans is a narcissist. 

1585
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:39,300
Or has those qualities from the 
sociopath next door? 

1586
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:41,900
I think it came from that. 
It's very common. 

1587
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:48,100
That maybe their opinions aren't
from some unbiased study of the 

1588
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,900
subject of because it makes them
sound intelligent. 

1589
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,700
In all my experience in dealing 
with Layman concerning these 

1590
01:35:54,700 --> 01:35:56,700
issues. 
It really comes down to sounding

1591
01:35:56,700 --> 01:35:58,800
smart. 
See how informed I am. 

1592
01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:00,800
See. 
I'm doing something. 

1593
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,900
I'm up on this stuff. 
There's a lot of resentment 

1594
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:06,700
because of my education and 
background. 

1595
01:36:07,700 --> 01:36:10,300
They they want to take me down 
somehow. 

1596
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,000
Keeping your cool is absolutely 
positively, essential the 

1597
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,500
minute, you get angry and start 
yelling. 

1598
01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:22,700
You've lost. 
So and I've been through this, 

1599
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,700
my fiancé is in the mental 
health field specializing in 

1600
01:36:26,700 --> 01:36:30,500
autism and schizophrenia, and 
yes, she has a lot of great 

1601
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:35,100
insights into this. 
But mental illness is very 

1602
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:39,700
prevalent. 
Cognitive dissonance is very 

1603
01:36:39,700 --> 01:36:43,600
prevalent. 
I've had situations where I 

1604
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,100
discussed an issue was so much 
like the Isis not too long ago. 

1605
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,200
Obviously, you can argue with 
what I said about Isis, and then

1606
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:52,800
they agree. 
But a few weeks later. 

1607
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,000
I hear him talking. 
You'll give you the official 

1608
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:59,300
account to someone else. 
Yeah, you know, you can't, you 

1609
01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:03,300
can't be very trustworthy. 
You have to have a strong 

1610
01:37:03,300 --> 01:37:06,400
support system. 
You can't be isolated. 

1611
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:09,600
Isolation is terrible. 
It's almost a form of torture. 

1612
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,900
You have to have a support 
system. 

1613
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:12,600
You have to plug into a 
community. 

1614
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,400
One of the things that the 
censorship is doing is 

1615
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:21,500
destroying any kind of online. 
Hopefully you could find actual 

1616
01:37:21,500 --> 01:37:25,500
human interaction somewhere. 
That's extremely important. 

1617
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,700
And that's something that I 
have. 

1618
01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:28,100
Thank God. 
I didn't have for a while 

1619
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,800
because you will go and saying 
just by itself regardless of 

1620
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:38,000
politics if you're isolated, but
that's that's being alone. 

1621
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,800
That's not being in solitude. 
So avoid alcohol. 

1622
01:37:42,900 --> 01:37:47,000
My God, please avoid alcohol. 
Alcohol makes everything worse 

1623
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,100
does make anyone feel better? 
It is the most disastrous thing.

1624
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:52,400
A lot of the young guys, they 
get drunk, and they do stupid 

1625
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,500
things, and then when they wake 
up, they feel worse than they 

1626
01:37:55,500 --> 01:37:59,700
did before. 
Substance abuse even among our 

1627
01:37:59,700 --> 01:38:04,800
people isn't minor. 
Avoiding alcohol, avoiding 

1628
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:06,700
illegal drugs. 
It's a big part of it. 

1629
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,100
Maintaining your own personal 
physical health, not only on 

1630
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:14,300
Mental Health. 
And please, this is what you do.

1631
01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:16,900
If you're really into this, make
sure you have other hobbies that

1632
01:38:16,900 --> 01:38:21,800
are totally apolitical. 
And as I said, you can you can 

1633
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,600
pull back for a while. 
You don't have to read every 

1634
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:29,400
damn thing. 
So understand, what propaganda 

1635
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,800
it and expect this. 
And so, when you explain 

1636
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,500
something to someone make 
certain that it's calm and 

1637
01:38:36,500 --> 01:38:39,900
measured and intelligent no 
personal comments. 

1638
01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:42,800
No personal insults. 
Try to agree with a few things 

1639
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,700
that they say. 
So you sound, you sound more 

1640
01:38:45,700 --> 01:38:49,000
agreeable than you are. 
You know that, okay, that's a 

1641
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:54,800
good point, but kind of kind of 
comment, but that only goes so 

1642
01:38:54,800 --> 01:39:00,100
far, we will suffer will suffer 
mentally, and because of that 

1643
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:03,600
will suffer physically. 
Because they're very closely 

1644
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,500
connected. 
And as I said before, you will 

1645
01:39:06,500 --> 01:39:09,900
lose jobs, you lose friends. 
You lose everything, I did, 

1646
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:13,500
thank God, I've rebuilt 
everything, but the fact that I 

1647
01:39:13,508 --> 01:39:16,200
rebuilt, it means that it is 
possible for any of us, you are 

1648
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:21,400
going to suffer. 
But this is the fight. 

1649
01:39:22,300 --> 01:39:24,500
This is the fight. 
This is, you know, true 

1650
01:39:24,500 --> 01:39:27,500
aristocracy is those who are 
fighting the regime right now? 

1651
01:39:28,700 --> 01:39:32,000
So, so that's, you know, we're 
fighting the Machiavellian 

1652
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,200
regime, Machiavellian regime 
and, which now, essentially, his

1653
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,300
black rock. 
So, that's pretty much it. 

1654
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,100
So, you know, yes, we will 
suffer, you have to prepare for,

1655
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:44,200
but there are other things you 
could do to keep yourself. 

1656
01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:49,800
Hopefully unlevel ground. 
And is there something about 

1657
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:54,000
just feeling like you're being 
part of something that is 

1658
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,400
relatively meaningful or very 
meaningful. 

1659
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:01,300
Of course you Very meaningful 
would be you insult the 

1660
01:40:01,300 --> 01:40:05,400
president and millions of people
change their mind on TV, but at,

1661
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,900
you know our power level or, you
know, to anyone, maybe 

1662
01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:12,800
listening, it's hard to you. 
Don't exactly get those road to 

1663
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,100
Damascus moments, where 
everything changes for you. 

1664
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:18,300
It's a little more gradual. 
It's much more indirect. 

1665
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:20,800
It's much more about planting 
seeds, isn't there? 

1666
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:26,700
Something encouraging about 
choosing a worthy burden to put 

1667
01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:30,400
on yourself to give you? 
Something to fight against that 

1668
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,900
is important. 
That should be rejected. 

1669
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,200
And in that process the people 
you meet along the way you're 

1670
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:40,100
going to have this sort of 
evolution of friendship. 

1671
01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:43,600
So instead of me staying in the 
football realm and making 

1672
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,900
friends and building 
relationships there in the 

1673
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:50,000
economics philosophy and history
realm, I'm making friends and 

1674
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,800
building relationships there. 
So it's still beneficial. 

1675
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,500
It's not like this huge 
sacrifice and if we lose our 

1676
01:40:55,500 --> 01:41:00,000
life is for nothing, is there 
Anything out of that word salad,

1677
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,700
you'd like to respond to. 
Oh, no, don't insult yourself. 

1678
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,000
That's not word salad at all. 
Makes a lot of sense to me, but 

1679
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,500
it is really the summary. 
Of the tips that I just said, 

1680
01:41:09,500 --> 01:41:11,200
there has to be this 
interaction. 

1681
01:41:11,900 --> 01:41:14,200
I don't regret damn thing. 
I've lost some very good 

1682
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:19,900
University jobs because of this 
and that's something I may never

1683
01:41:19,900 --> 01:41:23,400
fully get over. 
But everything that you said it 

1684
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,800
really is summary of how we're 
to approach. 

1685
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,600
Mental health here that we are 
in the right. 

1686
01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:32,700
I'd never make reference to like
the first amendment and the 

1687
01:41:32,700 --> 01:41:34,000
First Amendment right to say 
something. 

1688
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,000
No, I'm right. 
That's why I'm saying it because

1689
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:37,800
there's some abstraction that 
gives me permission. 

1690
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:42,400
The fact that they're centering 
so brutally proves that they're 

1691
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,600
very this is not exactly a 
secure regime. 

1692
01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:50,800
Double standard and January 6, 
versus the riots last year. 

1693
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,600
Totally complete, double close, 
you know, and if someone can't 

1694
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,800
see that, maybe you shouldn't be
talking to them at all. 

1695
01:41:58,900 --> 01:42:01,800
Maybe they're not capable and 
don't assume that everyone's 

1696
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,400
capable of reason that 
everyone's capable of following 

1697
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,700
a chain of arguments and 
proposition. 

1698
01:42:06,700 --> 01:42:09,000
So their conclusion. 
I found that not a whole lot of 

1699
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,400
people can do that. 
Don't assume that everyone's 

1700
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,000
capable of Love, don't assume 
that even in our own, our own 

1701
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,900
side. 
You have people who were there 

1702
01:42:16,900 --> 01:42:20,700
for non political reasons that 
are there for personal reasons 

1703
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,100
or and I always wondered, you 
know, I went out to editor the 

1704
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:27,300
bars review. 
I was outside front center of 

1705
01:42:27,300 --> 01:42:28,500
the Nationalist movement. 
I heard it. 

1706
01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:33,400
Everybody knew everybody and we 
get the crazy letters, usually 

1707
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:36,300
handwritten about their teddy 
bears and whatever it was 

1708
01:42:36,300 --> 01:42:38,200
insanity. 
And I've always wondered, I 

1709
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:43,200
said, are these people crazy and
they join our side or are they 

1710
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:44,900
on our side? 
And therefore they went crazy? 

1711
01:42:45,900 --> 01:42:47,700
I never, I can't, I can't answer
that. 

1712
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:54,100
But it is not for everybody. 
History is made by fanatical 

1713
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:57,600
determined cohesive minority. 
There is no exception to this 

1714
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,000
whatsoever. 
The masses don't matter, one way

1715
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:05,200
or the other, contrary to what 
Marx would say, and our own 

1716
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,000
personal morality and virtue has
to come first. 

1717
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,300
We have to be very, very, very 
careful about that. 

1718
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,600
And, and we have to give an 
example. 

1719
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,900
I think people are converted 
more, by example, then by 

1720
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:18,500
ideologies. 
Because even people who I 

1721
01:43:18,700 --> 01:43:22,900
Certainly have changed. 
I often mangled my words and my 

1722
01:43:22,900 --> 01:43:25,800
meanings making it more 
conducive to their own 

1723
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:30,300
self-interest know our example 
can be a big part of this. 

1724
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,800
So, you know, look the Soviet 
Union fell. 

1725
01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:41,100
In and of itself, there was no 
war that was no massive famine. 

1726
01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:46,100
It collapsed, it collapsed, 
almost overnight from 89 to 91. 

1727
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,500
It collapsed almost this is 
never been done in history. 

1728
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,700
Usually there's a war there's a 
severe economic shock, something

1729
01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:53,200
like that. 
This just happened. 

1730
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,700
And all of those who were 
fighting the system for decades,

1731
01:43:58,700 --> 01:44:01,200
we've indicated because 
everything they said, turns out 

1732
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,100
to be true that could happen 
with any regime that we're 

1733
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:08,400
fighting. 
For those people who will accept

1734
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:12,100
the idea that the January 6. 
With this horrible Riot and the 

1735
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:15,600
riots in every city in America 
before were wonderful peaceful. 

1736
01:44:16,500 --> 01:44:18,000
Maybe they're just not capable 
of thinking. 

1737
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,900
Pick your battles, pick your 
friend, but if you don't have a 

1738
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:25,000
support system, you're going to 
be in a lot of trouble and you 

1739
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,200
may then turn to drugs to get 
over it. 

1740
01:44:28,900 --> 01:44:32,800
One of the things that I've done
is I've tried to make sure that 

1741
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:36,600
I'm reaping a benefit out of all
of my interactions. 

1742
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,200
So, as opposed to me just sort 
of going into this. 

1743
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,000
I need to keep the good fight 
up. 

1744
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,600
I'm going to try to convince 
this person. 

1745
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,200
Maybe they'll teach people and 
it'll create this Chain 

1746
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,300
Reaction. 
A lot of people don't listen and

1747
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:50,600
you'll say well, why did I waste
so much time on them? 

1748
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,300
So what I try to do is learn 
from every one of my 

1749
01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:56,200
interactions. 
Whether it's the dumbest person,

1750
01:44:56,200 --> 01:45:00,700
I know or If it's, you know, 
someone with multiple phds who 

1751
01:45:00,700 --> 01:45:04,100
I'm disagreeing with, from each 
person, you could see even if 

1752
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:06,700
it's just not someone really 
into politics. 

1753
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:09,300
How does the political messaging
affect? 

1754
01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:12,300
Someone like this who doesn't 
know much yet. 

1755
01:45:12,300 --> 01:45:16,000
They have the same opinions that
the CIA, the Council on Foreign 

1756
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,700
Relations, the New York Times 
and the University's Professor 

1757
01:45:19,700 --> 01:45:22,400
have, isn't that interesting 
that all these people have the 

1758
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:26,300
same idea and if you peel back 
one layer, they're not really 

1759
01:45:26,300 --> 01:45:29,700
interested. 
And in what's going on or how 

1760
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:34,200
they develop that opinion? 
So always try to harmonize the 

1761
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,500
interest that all right. 
I am going to learn from this 

1762
01:45:37,500 --> 01:45:40,600
conversation how a smart person 
believes a lie. 

1763
01:45:40,900 --> 01:45:45,400
What their response is how they 
rationalize the most ridiculous 

1764
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,000
things. 
You could possibly say and what 

1765
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,900
are they going to say? 
If I ask them a question about 

1766
01:45:50,900 --> 01:45:53,900
something instead of, putting it
in a statement format? 

1767
01:45:53,900 --> 01:45:56,800
How do they respond? 
What is the feedback mechanism? 

1768
01:45:56,900 --> 01:45:57,700
What? 
Works. 

1769
01:45:57,700 --> 01:45:59,400
What doesn't work, what opens 
their mind? 

1770
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,000
What gets them to stop? 
To think these sorts of things 

1771
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,500
allowed me to stop driving 
myself crazy, because I go. 

1772
01:46:05,500 --> 01:46:06,900
Okay. 
I'm going to talk to this person

1773
01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:10,900
for maybe 20, 30 minutes. 
It won't be a waste at 30 

1774
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:14,800
minutes if I didn't convince 
them because I probably won't, 

1775
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,900
but I will learn and I will have
brought that horse to water. 

1776
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:20,800
Maybe the horse, doesn't decide 
to drink. 

1777
01:46:20,900 --> 01:46:23,600
I will have brought them to the 
water of Truth or so. 

1778
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,800
I think maybe I'm wrong about 
everything and they're bringing 

1779
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:30,200
me to the water. 
They're bringing me to the 

1780
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,000
Fountain of Knowledge. 
But either way, harmonizing 

1781
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:36,900
those long-term and short-term 
goals. 

1782
01:46:36,900 --> 01:46:41,200
And and me saying, how do I find
the benefit in this for myself, 

1783
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,400
for my family for the people? 
In my immediate group that has 

1784
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,400
been a really big thing for me. 
Also, just having standards for 

1785
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:52,300
people who I take criticism from
for the same reason, you 

1786
01:46:52,500 --> 01:46:56,200
wouldn't take a blind man's 
opinion of a painting. 

1787
01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:00,100
A lot of the It's of the world, 
the ignoratio as I call them, or

1788
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:03,200
if they guess, it's the world's 
biggest secret society. 

1789
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,500
It's so secret. 
The people who are the members, 

1790
01:47:05,500 --> 01:47:07,000
don't even know that their 
members. 

1791
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:11,900
That's how big it is. 
Billions of people that it's the

1792
01:47:11,900 --> 01:47:14,800
equivalent of asking. 
A deaf person, who their 

1793
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:19,900
favorite musician is their 
inability to distinguish with 

1794
01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:25,700
distinguish truth from falsehood
or you don't have any sense of, 

1795
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,700
you know, in ethical compass. 
I just think that it's important

1796
01:47:29,700 --> 01:47:34,900
to be able to disassociate, not 
disassociate to distinguish 

1797
01:47:34,900 --> 01:47:38,400
between valid opinions and 
invalid ones in the same way. 

1798
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,700
I might say, you know what, I 
really disagree with pilots on 

1799
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:44,300
how to fly planes. 
It's important that people just 

1800
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:46,700
laugh at me and say, well, yeah,
you're not a pilot. 

1801
01:47:46,700 --> 01:47:51,100
You haven't studied shut up. 
It's there shouldn't be a vote 

1802
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,500
among the passengers on how the 
pilot should fly. 

1803
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,400
He's right. 
Everyone else is ignorant 

1804
01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:01,200
because maybe they have had 
taken the time to do so, or 

1805
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,200
maybe they were misled, 
whatever. 

1806
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,500
Also, the division of labor has 
been really big for me. 

1807
01:48:05,500 --> 01:48:08,000
So, to recognize. 
So when people say, yeah, I'm 

1808
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:12,500
not really informed on, you 
know, politics or anything or 

1809
01:48:12,500 --> 01:48:14,600
banking, but maybe, I'll start 
watching the news. 

1810
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,900
I say whatever you do. 
Do not watch the news. 

1811
01:48:17,900 --> 01:48:20,100
It's worse. 
It's worse than doing nothing 

1812
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:22,200
because you think you're getting
something when you're getting 

1813
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:23,900
lies? 
So I say, all right. 

1814
01:48:23,900 --> 01:48:26,300
So where do you work? 
And he'll sort of, you know, 

1815
01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:30,600
reluctantly says, Goodwill, 
which for those not in America 

1816
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:36,000
that is an organization that 
takes used items and sells them 

1817
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:39,000
that collects them and then 
sells them, distributes them 

1818
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:43,400
around States and and whatnot. 
So it's seen as like the cheap 

1819
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,700
place but it's getting nicer and
as people get newer things they 

1820
01:48:46,700 --> 01:48:50,200
give their old stuff to Goodwill
and Goodwill sells them at a 

1821
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:54,600
heavily discounted price. 
So telling that person that what

1822
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,400
they're doing is they're playing
a role in the process of getting

1823
01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:01,100
Products and services to people 
at the lowest levels of income 

1824
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:04,000
that our grandparents and 
grandparents never would have 

1825
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,200
had access to all these clothes 
and all these books, and all 

1826
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,700
these CDs, to all the knowledge 
of all the books and Goodwill 

1827
01:49:09,700 --> 01:49:13,800
alone is is really big telling 
them that they still have value 

1828
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,200
and that they have meaning that 
first of all, feels good for 

1829
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,900
you, but also it doesn't just 
suck people into. 

1830
01:49:19,900 --> 01:49:26,100
I'm either involved in the 
cathedral apparatus of the state

1831
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:30,600
or I'm Not really a good person.
Anyone who builds a house for a 

1832
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:34,100
family to live in my do more for
the world than I've ever done 

1833
01:49:34,100 --> 01:49:36,100
with with this podcast. 
All right. 

1834
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:37,600
Maybe you have to build a few 
houses. 

1835
01:49:37,900 --> 01:49:41,900
The point is, is that telling 
people that their value, that's 

1836
01:49:41,900 --> 01:49:44,100
another thing that helps build 
communities. 

1837
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:48,000
You don't feel so isolated and 
it's not like, I only find my 

1838
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,500
value in Kamala Harris and the 
speech is that she gives. 

1839
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,300
So those are some of the things 
that come to mind. 

1840
01:49:55,300 --> 01:49:57,300
Oh, also babysitting, I think is
great. 

1841
01:49:57,500 --> 01:50:01,700
Just to deal with. 
I mean kids who are not going to

1842
01:50:01,700 --> 01:50:07,300
ask me about politics or talk 
about anything to too, serious. 

1843
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:11,000
Just to see them laugh at, you 
know, books or someone falling. 

1844
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,400
It's so nice to just sit back 
and, and appreciate it. 

1845
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:20,000
Not to mention a bunch of us, 
atheists, got together, and went

1846
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,300
to church on Christmas. 
Eve, in Scottsdale, Arizona met 

1847
01:50:24,300 --> 01:50:27,000
the nicest. 
People there, develop more. 

1848
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,400
Ships and most probably for so 
hours. 

1849
01:50:29,700 --> 01:50:36,900
Then I have in most online 
forums or any thing revolving in

1850
01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:41,100
the in the political realm. 
Those are pretty much the main 

1851
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,900
things that come to mind. 
Also sports. 

1852
01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:47,600
That playing football is also 
nice to just to get some energy 

1853
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,800
out. 
Any final thoughts on staying 

1854
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,700
sane in an insane World. 
Well, how do you follow that? 

1855
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,100
I, you know, I say. 
To everyone that I do two things

1856
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,800
very well. 
I'm a very good historian and I 

1857
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:08,700
make very cute babies. 
Family is absolutely essential. 

1858
01:51:08,700 --> 01:51:11,200
But when that institution is 
falling apart, this is where 

1859
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,700
isolation comes from. 
Finding the right woman and 

1860
01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:18,200
making children is essential 
today, not just in America, but 

1861
01:51:18,300 --> 01:51:20,000
especially in places like 
Eastern Europe where our 

1862
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,600
population is falling. 
The media has led to a situation

1863
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:27,200
where white males have such a 
chronic low self-esteem, even 

1864
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,800
gets into the music and the art 
that's produced. 

1865
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:36,400
Nirvana was almost based on, and
this is why I suicide the 

1866
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,200
overwhelming majority of 
suicides in America, are 

1867
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,900
middle-aged white males. 
They're being replaced. 

1868
01:51:41,900 --> 01:51:43,200
They don't think they have 
value. 

1869
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,100
I don't think they're anybody. 
They've lost their kids. 

1870
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:47,400
They've lost their marriage. 
There's nothing left. 

1871
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:53,500
They're a burden on everybody. 
So family is essential babies 

1872
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,500
thing. 
Would, I raised two boys? 

1873
01:51:55,900 --> 01:51:59,200
And I love the fact that they 
their innocence. 

1874
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,100
I think their innocence is one 
of the reasons that people 

1875
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:03,100
abused them. 
Child abuse comes from this 

1876
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:05,700
terrible envy that they don't 
have to worry about the things 

1877
01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:10,400
that they do. 
Childhood Early Childhood is the

1878
01:52:10,407 --> 01:52:14,500
Garden of Eden. 
The fall is puberty and puberty 

1879
01:52:14,500 --> 01:52:17,900
and the fall expulsion of Adam 
and Eve from the garden or very 

1880
01:52:17,900 --> 01:52:21,400
soon. 
And the whole prior to that. 

1881
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,600
The innocent is something 
wonderful and it changed my life

1882
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,600
completely. 
I was a very good father and he 

1883
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,200
came very natural naturally. 
To me. 

1884
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:33,600
It gives you a tremendous amount
of confidence. 

1885
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,700
You rely - the ultimate activism
making healthy children. 

1886
01:52:36,900 --> 01:52:39,900
Raising is the ultimate form of 
activism. 

1887
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,700
Michael would come to the 
demonstrations With Me Now who 

1888
01:52:43,700 --> 01:52:45,600
the TWP. 
I had a lot of pictures of that.

1889
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,900
He loved every minute of it. 
He was 14 15. 

1890
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,800
He was taken because he was my 
son. 

1891
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,500
He was taken very seriously. 
Everyone loved them. 

1892
01:52:53,900 --> 01:52:56,100
He was very brave. 
You are strong, you know, it 

1893
01:52:56,100 --> 01:53:00,000
changed his line. 
So but you know, what? 

1894
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,500
Sometimes I wonder you talk 
about the distinction between 

1895
01:53:03,500 --> 01:53:05,300
your political stuff in your 
private stuff. 

1896
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,600
I find out that that tends to 
collapse. 

1897
01:53:09,700 --> 01:53:11,400
It is eventually going to come 
out. 

1898
01:53:11,500 --> 01:53:13,600
You can't keep private stuff 
private, especially if you're 

1899
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:18,100
doing what we do. 
So family is absolutely 

1900
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:22,800
essential churches are essential
but even that it's is getting 

1901
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,300
worse and worse as time goes on 
self-interest arrogance 

1902
01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:30,500
Conformity fear seem to rule 
everything just like the Soviet 

1903
01:53:30,500 --> 01:53:32,300
Union. 
The capitalist regime is going 

1904
01:53:32,300 --> 01:53:33,600
to fall under its own weight, 
too. 

1905
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:38,200
Are we going to do? 
Are you talk about the ignor 

1906
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,400
otic? 
I also when I was told my first 

1907
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,500
speech to the freedom palooza 
people, I made the statement 

1908
01:53:43,500 --> 01:53:47,400
that the United States is the 
only country where you're going 

1909
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:50,200
to have a really what the 
Western world where you could 

1910
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,400
have a total economic collapse, 
and I've no one noticed. 

1911
01:53:53,900 --> 01:53:55,100
Because of how everything is 
spun. 

1912
01:53:56,300 --> 01:54:00,800
It's worse than you think. 
However, there are bits of good 

1913
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,600
news. 
There are still reasons to be 

1914
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:05,000
happy. 
You shouldn't be dictated to by 

1915
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:09,700
the fact that we're in this 
position and, and family, the 

1916
01:54:09,700 --> 01:54:12,000
church connections and close 
friends. 

1917
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:15,100
These you, there's no way I 
could stress that anymore. 

1918
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,300
Without them, you are going to 
be in some trouble. 

1919
01:54:17,300 --> 01:54:19,400
I think this is really where 
alcohol and drug addiction comes

1920
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:23,800
from. 
What is the important difference

1921
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,000
between Catholicism and 
Orthodoxy? 

1922
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:33,900
Oxy. 
Oh, Auntie that come created. 

1923
01:54:33,900 --> 01:54:38,900
Great. 
The idea that the bishop of Rome

1924
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:43,200
can decide where Grace goes. 
Is absolutely essential to 

1925
01:54:43,208 --> 01:54:45,400
Catholicism. 
It's the foundation of papal 

1926
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:49,000
infallibility. 
In Orthodoxy, Grace, simply is 

1927
01:54:49,700 --> 01:54:51,200
the energies of God. 
The presence of God on Earth. 

1928
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,900
Simply the simply is and Bishop 
can then point to it. 

1929
01:54:55,900 --> 01:55:00,300
The ascetic life is meant to 
make you able to receive it. 

1930
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,400
Eden is here. 
Heaven is here. 

1931
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:05,600
And actually they haven't Eden 
is here, but we're too sinful to

1932
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,400
notice. 
We're too hung up on. 

1933
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,000
Usually what it comes down to 
self-interest uncontrolled. 

1934
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:15,900
Passion, sex, greed, media 
control, self importance for the

1935
01:55:15,900 --> 01:55:21,200
opposite and we can't experience
the ascetic life of the 

1936
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:25,600
monastics in Orthodoxy are the 
dominant. 

1937
01:55:25,700 --> 01:55:27,600
Part 3 Bishops have to come 
from. 

1938
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:32,800
But the Roman church almost 
defies the bureaucracy. 

1939
01:55:33,900 --> 01:55:40,300
It defines the pope of Rome as 
having total control over other 

1940
01:55:40,300 --> 01:55:44,000
Bishops, complete control 
because he is the one who 

1941
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,700
decides where Grace goals in 
Orthodoxy. 

1942
01:55:45,700 --> 01:55:50,300
There is no such concept, so 
that changes everything between 

1943
01:55:50,300 --> 01:55:53,300
the two between the two between 
the two sides. 

1944
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,900
It wasn't always that way. 
They had a 800 years of common 

1945
01:55:56,900 --> 01:56:02,600
life. 
But gradually this, you know, 

1946
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,500
this difference, the pope of 
Rome being the inheritor of the 

1947
01:56:05,508 --> 01:56:09,800
Roman Empire and of course the 
Roman Empire surviving in the 

1948
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:15,500
East that was the key different.
And when Gregory the seventh, 

1949
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:20,900
indistinct is pop a claim that 
he can overthrow a gift for 

1950
01:56:20,900 --> 01:56:23,300
economic control. 
He decides every political 

1951
01:56:23,300 --> 01:56:25,600
question and every religious 
question, and it's one of the 

1952
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,700
central text in Catholicism. 
That changed. 

1953
01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:30,700
There was no chance of a 
reunions between the suicides. 

1954
01:56:30,700 --> 01:56:33,900
At that point. 
It was one of the and right 

1955
01:56:33,900 --> 01:56:35,500
after the system, right after 
1054. 

1956
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,500
Establish establishing 
themselves as a total list 

1957
01:56:40,500 --> 01:56:47,100
bureaucracy, that is not the 
case in the East so that if they

1958
01:56:47,108 --> 01:56:49,300
do in a very, very simple way, 
that's how I would describe it. 

1959
01:56:49,300 --> 01:56:52,700
Created Grace, this notion that 
the bishop of Rome has this, 

1960
01:56:52,700 --> 01:56:56,000
tremendous power is and 
everything that comes from. 

1961
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:02,800
That is the main distinction. 
And if I want a history of the 

1962
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,800
Orthodox Church, of course, 
reading the Bible is important. 

1963
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:10,100
What is a book that focuses on 
the history of the Orthodox 

1964
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:13,500
Church that you'd recommend to 
people? 

1965
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:16,200
They only have time for one, 
which one should they read? 

1966
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,600
That's difficult. 
Well, you should pick up my 

1967
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:26,400
stuff. 
My book on the well as the 

1968
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:30,000
Orthodox idea in Russian 
literature is very important. 

1969
01:57:30,500 --> 01:57:33,800
But Timothy wear anything by 
Timothy where he's, I don't 

1970
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,200
agree with them on a lot of 
things but Timothy where is an 

1971
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,700
excellent source. 
Another excellent source is 

1972
01:57:39,700 --> 01:57:42,200
Vladimir Moss. 
All this stuff is free online. 

1973
01:57:42,500 --> 01:57:45,000
He has full histories of the 
Orthodox Church in different 

1974
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:46,700
countries. 
I don't agree with him on 

1975
01:57:46,700 --> 01:57:50,500
everything, but he's very 
intelligent worthwhile. 

1976
01:57:51,900 --> 01:57:54,600
So, but Timothy where again 
tends to be a bit of a 

1977
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,200
modernist, a lot of your Moss is
probably where I would. 

1978
01:57:57,300 --> 01:58:02,300
I would send people the Orthodox
Christian information, center is

1979
01:58:02,300 --> 01:58:04,400
a huge website. 
This is old as the web. 

1980
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,100
There is almost nothing in the 
church. 

1981
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:09,400
It isn't on there. 
They have a whole history 

1982
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:10,900
section. 
That's where I would go and it's

1983
01:58:10,900 --> 01:58:14,000
very imposing. 
Very few people are actually 

1984
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:18,700
going to bother to do this. 
But if I had to pick one, it 

1985
01:58:18,700 --> 01:58:22,100
would be one of the historical 
works of blood me Moss. 

1986
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:23,200
There's a history, there were 
structures. 

1987
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,600
I can't, I can't think of the 
exact title of the top my head. 

1988
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,300
That's why I would send them. 
If you think of that title, send

1989
01:58:28,300 --> 01:58:30,000
it to me. 
I'll put it in the description 

1990
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,900
below. 
And then final question. 

1991
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:38,000
What is a book or website? 
You would recommend to someone 

1992
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:42,700
if they wanted to learn how to 
critically think and decrease 

1993
01:58:42,700 --> 01:58:45,000
the likelihood. 
They are manipulated by 

1994
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:51,100
Propaganda. 
Book, this is nice a or website.

1995
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:53,100
Yeah. 
Person to follow anything in 

1996
01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:55,600
that area. 
It comes from experience. 

1997
01:58:56,300 --> 01:58:59,500
It's very difficult to read your
way into this. 

1998
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,700
What happened to me? 
Is that the college and grad 

1999
01:59:03,700 --> 01:59:05,800
school? 
I began to read forbidden 

2000
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:09,400
authors you Michael Jones was a 
big one who just demolished The 

2001
01:59:09,407 --> 01:59:11,800
Establishment history and a 
whole bunch of topics to 

2002
01:59:11,808 --> 01:59:14,300
generate moderns was the first 
thing that I read of his. 

2003
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:18,100
And when you start realizing 
that, oh my God. 

2004
01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:21,500
So much of what society believes
is absurd and falls and 

2005
01:59:21,500 --> 01:59:24,900
damaging, it changes your life. 
You can't, you can think the 

2006
01:59:24,907 --> 01:59:26,400
same way again. 
You can function the same way 

2007
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,900
again. 
After that, you start taking all

2008
01:59:29,900 --> 01:59:32,300
of these claims with a grain of 
salt, even if they aren't true. 

2009
01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:38,500
But that kind of criticism that 
the critical mentality, it comes

2010
01:59:38,500 --> 01:59:40,900
from being a full-time worker in
this field. 

2011
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:44,300
If you don't have the background
knowledge, if you don't have the

2012
01:59:44,300 --> 01:59:46,900
tremendous reading that goes 
into any particular subject me 

2013
01:59:46,900 --> 01:59:51,700
let alone broad concept. 
You need to rely on others. 

2014
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,600
And simply asking someone who 
you trust what is really going 

2015
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:57,800
on. 
I get that I get these emails 

2016
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,300
all the time. 
What is going on here? 

2017
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,200
But doing this comes from 
experience. 

2018
02:00:03,500 --> 02:00:06,500
Young men shouldn't presume. 
It's kind of crunchy. 

2019
02:00:06,500 --> 02:00:07,800
When young man. 
We don't really know that much 

2020
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:11,500
start start, you know, acting 
like they're the the guardian of

2021
02:00:11,500 --> 02:00:17,700
Aristotle but age and experience
is what's going to allow you to 

2022
02:00:17,700 --> 02:00:19,000
identify. 
We talked about identifying 

2023
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:22,500
propaganda. 
It takes a while to, you know, I

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can just get a whiff of it. 
There's certain sometimes even 

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unspeakable ways that you can 
understand. 

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It's not necessarily something 
in writing, but there's 

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something about the syntax that 
suggests falsehood. 

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And this is why I'm so, you 
know, a logic cuts through all 

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the extraneous detail and gets 
to the heart of the matter. 

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That's what thinking is. 
That's extremely rare. 

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The essence is what we're aiming
at. 

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But most people are attached to 
the accident or the quality and 

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qualities are easier to access 
your color and shape and size 

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and emotion, but getting to the 
heart of the matter on something

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is rare. 
I think. 

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Aristotle. 
And how many people can read 

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posterior analytics by Aristotle
but that is The Logical text. 

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But I think over time reading 
critical books. 

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You could begin to imitate the 
critical method can be taken in.

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I mean, you know, I've made 
mistakes believe it or not, but 

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it's something again, it comes 
from experience. 

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There isn't a single book out 
there that can that can do that 

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for you. 
Thanks to everyone for watching 

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Keith Knight. 
Don't tread on anyone and the 

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libertarian Institute. 
Dr. Johnson. 

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Thank you so much for your time.
I appreciate it man. 

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Best questions. 
Excellent show.