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Hello friends. 
Patrick McFarland here of the 

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Liberty weekly podcast coming at
you with another episode. 

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This one is episode number 122 
and the show notes may be found 

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at Liberty weekly dotnet forward
slash 122. 

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And the title of this episode is
I am Rands objections to 

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anarchism debunked and joining 
me is the co-host of the show. 

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Keith Knight. 
How's it going buddy? 

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It's going great. 
I've been looking for someone to

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cover this topic for some time. 
So I'm excited. 

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We have the Andre. 
Lexicon. 

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So it separates all her ideas on
certain topics just like an 

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encyclopedia and we're just 
going through all the anarchists

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objections should be good. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Well, I'm excited to have you 

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back on and for us to do another
show together. 

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It's been a little bit, but we 
are busy men, aren't we? 

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We are, we are many obligations 
of course. 

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Yeah. 
Well, let's let's start off 

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right away just by, why don't 
you tell us a little bit about 

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Ian Rand because I haven't 
covered. 

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Murder at all on the show. 
And to be honest, I don't really

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follow her work. 
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about Ian Rand, as she was able 
to write, not only nonfiction, 

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but fiction as well. 
She's mostly known for her 

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fiction. 
The fountain had an Atlas 

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Shrugged and she came to America
after the Bolsheviks, 

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collectivized her father's 
company. 

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So when she came to America, she
was able to not only embrace the

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principles and appreciate them, 
but articulate them to the 

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masses in a way. 
That was sort of like exposing 

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them exposing a fish to water. 
It's like here is what? 

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Freedom is. 
It's like what do you mean? 

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I'm sort of doing my own thing 
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Hold on there. 
There's places where you have to

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get the state's permission to do
these certain things. 

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That's ridiculous. 
Well, she sort of exposed the 

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American fish to the water of 
statism and its possibilities. 

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She warned against the 
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I would say her best prediction.
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state and the Operations will 
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the populace. 
She whereas, in popular culture 

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at seeing that there's business,
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there's government, who wants to
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She saw right through that 
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She said that collectivism or 
altruism far from being a virtue

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of the purpose of living, your 
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should be reversed. 
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yourself and basically in 
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you can do anything you want. 
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violence, she was very Pro 
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people. 
That's her little short bio and 

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that's her link to 
libertarianism. 

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Well, so before we jump into the
actual quotes that she made, why

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don't you answer? 
Why do people hate Ian Ran? 

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So Much? 
The hatred of Ian, Rand, really 

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stems from the fact that she 
doesn't fit me woman advocating,

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big government and advocating. 
Um, it's always seen as an order

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for blacks, or the poor or 
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to. 
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government. 
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sticking up for the man or the 
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So she really throws a wrench in
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I really think they don't like 
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a consistent philosophy. 
Everything about well, she's 

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selfish. 
Well, all the president's you 

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worship have engaged in theft 
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And you're against selfishness. 
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can find in Ian, Rand haters, is
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typical Arguments for Oregon. 
State is MM. 

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Again, state has a might be, 
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She really made arguments on 
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Also. 
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against woman, black against 
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there's a conflict. 
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That's why we need a big 
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Only a big government can solve 
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When someone says government 
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free market is, well, obviously,
you're just signing up for the 

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splc hate list. 
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that people connect Ian ran to 
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Because I guess the first one of
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lot of people when I tell them 
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libertarianism or a very radical
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always say something about Ian 
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don't read Ian Rand. 
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read Ian Rand, but what I 
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ran didn't like Libertarians and
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right. 
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Am I running a foul? 
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But there's a difference between
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libertarian culture and made it 
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philosophy. 
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first. 
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First appearance on Phil. 
Donahue. 

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Why is she what the root of her 
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And she says, I am the archenemy
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Now why why Force? 
Why not volunteer is? 

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And why you against that? 
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individuals from engaging in 
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the first place. 
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connection to libertarianism 
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as the result of free will. 
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people can do their own 
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decision for themselves that is 
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forcing their will against 
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libertarianism the Embrace of 
self-ownership self-rule and the

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non-aggression principle, even 
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words, but the philosophies are 
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And that's why it's interesting 
that shell bash libertarianism 

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or anarchism. 
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Well, I mean we'll get into that
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But I think that may be the 
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and distance myself from Ian. 
Rand is because one I actually 

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like I can't say honestly that I
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it's an immediate turn off with 
people like because people have 

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conceived in their mind, that 
they know exactly who I in Rand 

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is and what she stands for, and 
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So if you want to get anywhere 
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like. 
You just have to disavow her. 

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People haven't heard of Murray 
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or, you know, yeah, so what do 
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Well, I'm Ryan does not easy to 
relate to an immigrant with a 

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thick accent, who's very old. 
She's not easy to relate to, 

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she's not talking about topics 
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So it's very easy to say this is
the face of libertarianism this 

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thing. 
You can't relate to that sold. 

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That's outdated. 
She's bitter. 

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She's angry. 
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Palestinians or the Iranians 
even though she's more anti-war.

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Then all Democrats and 
republican nominees today. 

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Yeah, that would basically be 
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it's so hard to relate to her. 
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There is the fact that she wrote
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So it's much harder to grasp it.
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I haven't even read her fiction 
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It was just her nonfiction, that
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There were two books, The Virtue
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the unknown ideal that Worked 
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work and her ability just to 
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Why some countries are rich? 
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difference between a moral 
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the kulaks, as the reason to 
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socialists were leftists who 
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to get gain power. 
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means something different in 
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And the Nazis would be 
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There. 
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analyze history I think is 
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hidden from the masses. 
If she does such a great job of 

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exposing it. 
Yeah, well, it's it's really 

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easy to dismiss someone's or to 
dismiss someone's ideas when you

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feel like you. 
Oh, I know what that's all 

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about. 
I'm not going to touch that Ian 

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ran bad. 
So we're just going to put that 

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in that category. 
But so maybe one last thing here

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like cats are misbehaving. 
So one last thing here. 

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Do you listen to rush at all? 
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band Rush. 
Not what? 

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I've seen him twice in concert. 
They were incredible. 

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I feel like we've talked about 
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you know, how Neil Peart has 
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He was really into i&r and at 
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don't know if Getty was into Ian
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since then Neil Peart is 
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His his wild younger years and 
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Russia. 
Lyrics with Ian, ran stories and

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calls himself a bleeding-heart, 
some other. 

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So that's just an example of 
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themselves because it's not in 
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Of course, it's not even though 
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female empowerment. 
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scaping this evil regime and 
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for pennies on the dollar, 
learning a new language and 

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writing two of the most 
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developing a brilliant 
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That hasn't been, I mean 
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Aristotle. 
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Aristotle. 
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someone like Play-Doh or even 
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So yeah, those are just 
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It's every scientologists letter
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because we had a new church come
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I used to be lost, but then I 
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Well, just the fact that you 
changed is not an argument. 

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The fact that well Neil Peart 
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Every libertarian. 
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status but now I would never use
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That's code for. 
I don't have an argument and 

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please induct us into the Hall 
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Wonder giving us our inductees. 
That's not that. 

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That's not a reasoned argument. 
Yeah, we did. 

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I haven't, you know, tried to 
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yeah. 
That's very typical just to say 

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I switched I was wrong then I'm 
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right now is more recent. 
It's not an argument. 

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Of course. 
Yeah well and its really 

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disappointing to it's kind of 
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You don't want to get to know 
your Heroes because you might 

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not like what you find and 
There's no reason to it and any 

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better said that about Neil 
Young and it's so true. 

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I meant this philosopher David 
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he's done such brilliant work. 
He works at U of A. 

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I finally met him biggest jerk 
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Oh, man. 
So yeah, I definitely know what 

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that's like, but then again at 
school to, you know, meet guys 

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like Jason Brennan or Tom Woods 
or we, you know, Open to 

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Corbett, right? 
So much that. 

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Well, and they've, I mean, the 
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people that I idolized in terms 
of the podcast has always been 

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positive really nice people, 
especially James, but the thing 

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with Neil, Peart just to revisit
that for a second. 

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It's always so weird how when he
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He was on the like a radical and
he was kind of going against the

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grain kind of a conic 
counterculture ideology, but 

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then getting older you just Fall
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and what everyone, you know, 
what the status quo is. 

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And it's just so disappointing 
to see like, oh, yeah. 

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And well, now I'm a bleeding 
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people. 
So we need socialism and 

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Canadians now, so, it wasn't, 
it's just like that line from 

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subdivisions off of Mowgli pay. 
It's like be cool or be cast out

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right there passed out. 
So, they Embrace sadism and 

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started bashing libertarianism. 
You might think I mean, when you

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read something that's so 
brilliant, like this is, And to 

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catch on I'm like, oh my gosh, 
there's a there's this new study

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showing that, you know, I don't 
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example. 
But let's say that the minimum 

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wage or something comes out and 
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are hurt. 
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skilled. 
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small business, can't afford it,
big business. 

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And I remember reading that and 
being like, Oh my God, this is 

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the most brilliant thing. 
These Leftists are going to have

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no more arguments now and of 
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It's false. 
It's never embraced and it was 

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published decades ago. 
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it's going to be so big. 
It's like, well, Supreme Allied 

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Commander Wesley Clark saying 
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invade Iraq. 
Somalia, Sudan and Iran. 

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The all under the guise of 9/11.
This is going to be everywhere. 

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No one really cared. 
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something's big, you want to try
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the circus, but then when it 
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you're like, well, looks like 
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big. 
So I'll Embrace that. 

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Yeah, first need stories are not
arguments. 

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Only, you know, deontological 
principled arguments are what we

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should focus on. 
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Well, with that, why don't we 
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So, First one on page, 20 
anarchism Anarchy as a political

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organized. 
Government would be at the mercy

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of the first Criminal Who came 
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it into the chaos of gang 
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human and morality is not the 
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even a society whose every 
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And faultlessly moral could not 
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It is the need of objective laws
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Disagreements, among men that 
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of a government. 
So I want you to respond to that

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first. 
Well, I mean it's like so it was

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said really well on biting the 
bullet podcast, which I'll give 

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them a plug. 
It's a bunch of military vets 

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that live in a house together. 
They're all roommates and 

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they're all endcap Libertarians,
except for one of them, but they

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were the one was in their most 
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They were drinking and they were
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and the men artists. 
Did like, a lot of the economic 

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principles of an cap is MM, but 
had kind of the same argument 

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that Ian ran just presented and 
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Well, a society without 
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the mercy of the first criminal 
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Well, this is one that we've 
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We've done, is that what you're 
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that the criminals because if 
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of power attracts a certain type
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criminal comes into adversely 
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criminal class will exist above 
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When you have a government 
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monopoly on the initiation of 
force that power attracts a 

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serpent, a certain type of 
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And instead of Well, you're 
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victimization of everyone else 
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the ability to initiate force 
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Giving one group of people a 
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equal. 
The result of objective laws. 

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In fact, if you wanted objective
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laws, you would make sure there 
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sure they couldn't collect 
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That people had to voluntarily 
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That is the first thing, but now
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That's it's just sad when 
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it's an IEEE floating 
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in a peaceful interaction. 
It's in Next thing she says it 

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would be at the mercy of the 
first criminal. 

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I don't see again how that 
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monopoly. 
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the countries unless there's a 
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Government. 
We're just at the mercy of the 

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most powerful country. 
She says it will lead to gang 

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Warfare. 
Oh as see as opposed to state is

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MM where there's not really any 
wars. 

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There's just kind discussion and
free trade but the biggest 

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Warfare that This is between 
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There have been two world wars. 
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I mean, so the fear of War does 
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state. 
The state's, the number one 

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cause of war and and they're 
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populace. 
I mean, what is the drug war? 

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But a war on Peaceful people or 
violently confiscating money 

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under the guise of Taxation 
initiating sanctions against 

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people that kill the civilians 
while the rulers just Or less 

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even a society whose every 
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Rational. 
But basically, she says the need

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for objective laws. 
Well, there is a law in America,

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the right to keep and bear arms 
shall not be infringed, if 

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anything is objective. 
It's that statement shall not be

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infringed. 
And then, there's the First 

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Amendment the judges in the 
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more on what those mean. 
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objectively, Of terms the 
government judges can't agree 

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amongst themselves. 
So it's not that anarchism is 

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perfect. 
Statism has fault. 

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They're both faulty. 
Neither can have objective that 

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totally total objectivity 
because they're run by humans. 

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So should humans have total 
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funding or should some humans 
have rights know others have 

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that's really the bottom line. 
So she's saying something that 

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applies towards every Some human
beings are faulty and then 

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pinning it on the anarchist 
system when it applies to her 

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system more than anything else 
Arbiter for honest. 

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Disagreements. 
Again, it's much better to have 

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a voluntarily funded by 
arbitration agency, that faces 

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competition rather than a 
coercively funded Monopoly. 

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Well, she's really precluding 
the possibility of polycentric 

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law and competing forums for the
production of laws. 

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And this is something that we've
seen throughout history that. 

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I mean, I've done shows on this 
but Stephan kinsella, again, he 

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was on a show. 
Just recently, I it was with 

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Corbett. 
He dish or with Corbett and he 

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was talking about international 
law. 

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And I found this myself that in 
mainstream legal Productions 

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about sorry. 
Legal Publications and papers 

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about international law. 
It's, it's pretty well. 

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I mean this idea of polycentric 
law and law without the state. 

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It's not heterodox. 
It's not outside of the 

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mainstream. 
I mean, in that Forum, in 

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international law, it is very 
much accepted that a polycentric

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lead, a legal order can exist. 
And in fact, has existed 

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throughout Millennia throughout 
human civilization, so I don't 

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understand how she can just 
throw. 

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The baby with the bathwater in 
terms of and I another thing I 

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don't understand is how her 
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With that quote, when she says 
that she's the enemy of the 

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initiation of force. 
Yeah, so what will read the 

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other ones? 
And she tries to clear it up? 

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This could be a problem of 
definitions, where we don't know

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what she's defining as a 
government. 

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But because it's really hard 
even when she tries to Define it

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in in her, in her other works. 
But as far as the need for laws,

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it's much more. 
It's not like food or water 

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where it's objectively needed 
for survival. 

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Imagine going to a town. 
You've never been to. 

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Without reading any of the laws,
or a different state, or a 

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different country without is it 
possible to go to a different 

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country without reading all the 
laws that are in that country. 

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Basically, what you do is you 
almost use the nap universally 

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because if you're like caught 
stealing, I mean, Otto warmbier 

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stealing in North Korea, it's 
something. 

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So, it's like, even in North 
Korea, this totally foreign 

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place, you know, stealing's 
wrong. 

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Of course, they're evil. 
They shouldn't have, you know, 

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done that to him. 
When I went to France and Italy,

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I've been to like half of the US
and it's not like well, I only 

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know what to do. 
If I first read the laws, these 

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are Customs that result of 
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and people finding out 
beneficial ways to cooperate. 

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So the claim that we need laws 
are us terrible things happen. 

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We constantly are ignoring laws.
How many laws that are in 

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America? 
Have you read? 

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I mean what percentage of the 
law legislation have you? 

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Really red. 
Well, how is anyone alive doing 

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things? 
Of course? 

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It's more of a smokescreen. 
All right. 

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We got a few more of the keys. 
So, let's go if a society 

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provided no organized 
protection. 

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Against course, it would compel 
every citizen to go about armed 

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to turn his home into a 
fortress, to shoot any strangers

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approaching his door or to join 
a protective gang of citizens, 

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who would fight other gangs 
formed for the same purpose, in 

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the spring about the 
degeneration. 

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Of that Society into the chaos 
of gang, rule is a rule by Brute

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Force into Perpetual tribal 
Warfare of prehistoric savages. 

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The use of physical Force, even 
its retaliatory. 

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Use cannot be left at the 
discretion of individual 

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citizens. 
Peaceful coexistence is 

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impossible. 
If a man has to live under the 

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constant threat of force to be 
Unleashed against him by any of 

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his neighbor's at any moment, 
whether this neighborhood, this 

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neighbors intentions are Or bad 
whether their judgment is 

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rational or irrational. 
Whether they are motivated by a 

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sense of justice or by ignorant 
or by Prejudice or by malice the

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use of force against one man. 
Cannot be left to the arbitrary 

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decision of another. 
Patrick. 

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Well, I think she's precluding 
the idea that people generally 

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do not want to risk everything 
that they have which is their 

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life for small payoff because, 
you know, without without so the

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the way that the state operates 
kind of guarantees that yes, we 

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can we can get into Wars and we 
can use armed conflict to get 

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what we want, but they socialize
the cost in Terms of taxpayers, 

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in terms of the populace will 
take, I'm talking specifically 

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about war, but that's what she's
kind of talking about police to 

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is that they can recruit these 
people. 

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They socialize, the cost of it 
for the most part and then when 

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you lose a few soldiers, or when
you lose a few policemen, it 

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doesn't matter. 
It doesn't really matter because

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we're drawing from this big, 
well, but when you put someone 

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out there who really is, 
Sacrificing everything that they

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have for not very much benefit. 
That is kind of its naturally. 

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It prevents people from doing 
that from risking everything. 

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And when you don't necessarily 
you're not relying on, extorting

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your fellow, man for your own 
Survival, or your family 

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survival. 
Why would you just mess with 

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someone else's stuff when you 
don't really need to? 

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And I think that's that would 
have to be the reality in the 

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But she's talking about is that 
while the only way in an 

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anarchist society that we can 
provide for our families to take

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from someone else. 
It just doesn't really make 

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sense. 
Yeah, also she's not explaining 

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what species are these things 
that are, you know, using 

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violence. 
She's like well people those are

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individuals will help. 
Well, then that is the same type

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of thing that will be a judge or
a politician or a banker or a 

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police officer or a military 
servicemen. 

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So she's saying people will in, 
will do this. 

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The individuals cannot be left 
to this. 

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We need government. 
What is government? 

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But a collection of individuals 
on a Pathak level, it's like the

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gang versus the government. 
One has a badge. 

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The other is just seen as like, 
you know, hippies or rebellious 

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militias. 
So she's not actually making a 

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difference, a principal 
difference between a police 

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officer and forcing something, 
and to judge. 

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And she's also assuming that 
everyone would have to do this 

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thing if the government didn't 
provide it on. 

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How would that possibly? 
Possibly enter your mind. 

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You don't want the government to
make car. 

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So everyone has to make their 
own car. 

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You don't want government to 
make candles. 

455
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Everyone has to make their own 
candles and their own fans and 

456
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,200
Brew their own coffee, and 
everyone makes their own cell 

457
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,900
phones, or should government do 
it. 

458
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,000
It's the biggest non sequitur. 
I think that I've ever come 

459
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,100
across is, do you want everyone 
to do things by themselves? 

460
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,000
Well, no, that's what trade is. 
That's what cooperation is. 

461
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,000
That's what private property 
rights are in the first place, 

462
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,600
the ability to own something and
then Exchange. 

463
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:18,300
And then on that other thing, 
that's trade. 

464
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,800
So yeah, she's really missing 
that out. 

465
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,200
Also, she is forgetting or not 
caring to learn that violence is

466
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,900
costly. 
So when you delegate the cost to

467
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:30,600
a group of people who have a 
recognized, right? 

468
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,300
No one else does and they 
collect funds, coercively. 

469
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:36,900
They are more likely to engage 
in the behavior of violence 

470
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:41,700
rather than if they had to Bear 
the financial cost and the risk 

471
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,900
to their lives and their family 
and their reputation. 

472
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:49,400
If Why steal something? 
I stole alcohol from Safeway 

473
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,600
when I was 16 and people still 
remind me of it and it's seen as

474
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,200
like this terrible thing. 
Of course, I'm sorry. 

475
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,200
I did it and everything but 
Safeways a local grocery store, 

476
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:03,200
but government steals trillions 
annually and people pledge their

477
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,900
allegiance to them. 
So what I mean, I'm so focused 

478
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:11,000
on like one thing I did when I 
was 16 and they speak the mass 

479
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,500
murder and kidnapping, theft 
funded evil bastards are just 

480
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:18,000
Shot. 
That's why there's so much more 

481
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,700
violence because it's not seen 
as violence when they do it. 

482
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,700
And that's what she's not 
appreciating, that more violence

483
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:27,800
will come when you give people a
total violence hall pass, as 

484
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,100
opposed to just holding them to 
the same standards. 

485
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:31,600
You told any other group of 
arson? 

486
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:33,100
Yeah. 
And moreover. 

487
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:36,300
We have real life examples of 
what I you and I were just 

488
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:40,100
talking about it and that's the 
Detroit threat Management 

489
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:43,600
Center. 
I mean, Commander Dale Brown 

490
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,100
isn't necessarily a voluntary as
libertarian Anarchist, but he is

491
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:51,100
a businessman and, you know, in 
Detroit in some of the worst 

492
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,700
neighborhoods. 
He's been able to prevent 

493
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:58,100
violence and he doesn't do so 
violently because, you know, 

494
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:02,200
one, he would be sued to, he 
would lose the lives of the 

495
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,900
people. 
He's trying to protect and lose 

496
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:09,300
the lives of his own employees. 
And so, he comes up with Ds, 

497
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:11,900
Collective situations and 
intact. 

498
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,100
Tex. 
And one thing that Ian ran kind 

499
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,400
of presumes here is that the 
only way to prevent violence is 

500
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,500
with violence itself. 
Well, know that we have locks 

501
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,700
for our buildings. 
We have security cameras, you 

502
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:28,400
know, we have these types of 
things that can and we have, you

503
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,200
know, nonviolent tactics D, 
escalation going up and getting 

504
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,300
close to someone and talking to 
them instead of pointing a gun 

505
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,200
or a taser at them and 
threatening them. 

506
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,500
And so the market provides a 
solution to this. 

507
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000
And the we have real life 
examples of this. 

508
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,300
Next claim a recent variant of 
anarchistic theory, which is 

509
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600
befuddling. 
Some of the younger Advocates of

510
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,300
freedom, is a weird absurdity. 
Okay. 

511
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,200
It's a recent, what its recent? 
It's befuddling. 

512
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,600
It's focused on young people. 
It's weird and it's absurd. 

513
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,900
What are you what kind of 
philosopher just engages in like

514
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:17,600
insults in the first half of the
Since my point is, is she really

515
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,300
is not approaching this topic 
rationally. 

516
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,300
Where's everything else? 
She's golden on. 

517
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,400
It's like Sam Harris, talking 
about government. 

518
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,300
He's so rational about like all 
this other stuff and able to 

519
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,300
think it through but when it 
comes to government just snorts 

520
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:36,400
of mind, control pill, it is a 
weird absurdity called competing

521
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,200
governments accepting the basic 
premises of modern satus who see

522
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,800
no difference between the 
functions of government and the 

523
00:29:43,808 --> 00:29:47,500
functions of Industry between. 
Horse and production and who 

524
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,200
Advocate government ownership of
businesses. 

525
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,400
The proponents of competing 
governments take the other side 

526
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,800
of the same coin and declare 
that since competition is so 

527
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,900
beneficial to business. 
It should also be applied to 

528
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,700
government instead of a single 
monopolistic government. 

529
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,600
They declare there should be a 
number of different governments 

530
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,800
in the same geographical area 
competing for the allegiance of 

531
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,400
individual citizens. 
With every citizen free to shop 

532
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,000
and to patronize whatever 
government. 

533
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,500
He chooses. 
Okay, that is part. 

534
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:20,900
One of this objection. 
What are your responses to that?

535
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,300
I mean, that whole argument is 
entirely useless without 

536
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,600
defining the term, government. 
Of course, of course, it is. 

537
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,400
And that, that's how sophistry 
is allowed to continue when she 

538
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,000
just called something 
government. 

539
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
It's the service. 
The state is claiming to 

540
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400
monopolize. 
That's what they're saying 

541
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,200
should be voluntarily funded. 
Should be privatized, should be 

542
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,500
voluntary sized. 
Not saying there should be 

543
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:53,200
different flags or different, 
you know, necessarily what are 

544
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,700
what is competition. 
If not the existence of no world

545
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:58,700
government. 
Right. 

546
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,800
Now. 
We have 200 and something 

547
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,800
competing governments is bad. 
As these governments are, it's 

548
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,100
better than one world 
government. 

549
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,800
They're like, well, we need a 
powerful government in case the 

550
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:13,000
Saddam Hussein's get in charge. 
Well, what if the Saddam 

551
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Hussein's get in charge of the 
world government? 

552
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,700
So, hurt cleaning. 
The problem with competition is 

553
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,000
bad, things might happen. 
So we need a monopoly. 

554
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,600
Again, the same thing applies, 
not only applies to Monopoly, 

555
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:28,600
but it applies more soda 
Monopoly because anything you 

556
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,300
can list that might be bad of 
one of the 50 states. 

557
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,300
Doing let's say there were 50 
instead of one anything bad. 

558
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:39,600
You can List Alabama will bring 
back slavery or something that 

559
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,500
is or bring back the draft. 
I should say that. 

560
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:47,000
Also applies. 
To the federal level. 

561
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,100
Anything you say about small can
be said about big and is more 

562
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:53,400
dangerous when it applies to 
you. 

563
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,700
So this this is just, it's so 
sad to see someone so good. 

564
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,900
Make these ridiculous 
comparisons. 

565
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,700
Well, voluntarily funded 
competition is superior to 

566
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:11,400
coercively funded Monopoly in 
every industry, in every aspect 

567
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,500
of life. 
Well, I think the thing, she's 

568
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:17,300
really mixing up. 
Up here is that there's no talk 

569
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:22,200
about the legitimized Monopoly 
on the initiation of force. 

570
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:28,300
And the legitimacy is, I think 
the operant word in that phrase 

571
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,300
because You know, the way that 
she's phrasing it. 

572
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,800
I think she's right, is that if 
you had competing governments 

573
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,200
within, the same geographical 
area and all of these 

574
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,400
governments had a monopoly on 
the initiation of force or 

575
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,400
violence, you're going to get 
Warfare. 

576
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,000
You're going to get the same 
kind of anarchic military 

577
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,700
militarized. 
Chaos that everyone kind of 

578
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:53,400
talks about. 
Of course, when you have 

579
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,100
different groups that are 
competing different groups with 

580
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:01,600
the, a legitimate monopolize, a 
Ation on the initiation of force

581
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,100
even within the same territory. 
They're all going to be fighting

582
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:10,800
over who is better but 
volunteerism or Anarchy would be

583
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,100
meaning that no one has the 
limit H, the legitimate Monopoly

584
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,900
on the use of force. 
And so I don't know what her 

585
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:22,400
disconnect is here in terms, but
I think it really has to do with

586
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:26,100
this idea of legitimacy because 
if you have different 

587
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:29,400
militarized groups running 
around in the same geographical 

588
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,200
area, Or competing within the 
same geographical area and 

589
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,500
everyone recognizes that they 
are legitimate in shooting 

590
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:39,700
people and threatening people. 
Then of course, you're going to 

591
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,600
get chaos, but if no one except 
for those competing groups, 

592
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,500
recognizes the legitimacy of 
those people to do what they're 

593
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:50,900
doing, then that's when it 
becomes, you know, tough to 

594
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,800
bring people into the fold. 
It's like herding cats, but 

595
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,300
that's when you get 
volunteerism. 

596
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:57,800
And that is what we are 
advocating. 

597
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,600
Is that no one recognized. 
The legitimate initiation of 

598
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,800
force period. 
So where should we? 

599
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,100
Yeah, so so instead of saying 
that I think what she's thinking

600
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:16,900
is, there's a government that 
has extra writes a lot of other 

601
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:19,900
places and group should also 
have extra rights. 

602
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:21,800
That's not what the anarchist is
saying. 

603
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,500
The anarchists are saying those 
rights are illegitimate. 

604
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,500
And then even if I have a 
security firm, I have no more 

605
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:34,100
rights than Patrick and his ten 
closest friends than me and my 

606
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:38,000
Employees, the difference is the
security firm, allocates 

607
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,500
resources, time and effort into 
learning how to prevent those 

608
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:43,400
things? 
But no one has any more rights 

609
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,800
than anyone else. 
So I think she is. 

610
00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:50,100
I think it's the word Force. 
She's not recognizing defensive 

611
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,500
Force versus the initiation and 
government. 

612
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:58,800
She is assuming it's a 
collective way of achieving the 

613
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,200
ends of securing persons and 
property and that's totally 

614
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,000
false. 
There are, as you mentioned, 

615
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,600
there's the nest door cameras. 
There's locks. 

616
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,800
There's guns. 
There's knives, there's there's 

617
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,600
numchucks. 
There's a ton of 

618
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,800
non-governmental ways. 
You can protect your life. 

619
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,500
In fact, most of people 
protecting their lives is 

620
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:23,500
against the government who was 
like, and gosh, there's so much 

621
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:27,300
insecurity. 
Like with when you have a 

622
00:35:27,308 --> 00:35:29,800
government that total violence 
is going to break out. 

623
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Are we going to go to war with 
Venezuela? 

624
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:33,000
Oh, no. 
No, okay, maybe. 

625
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,200
Be North Korea. 
Oh, no, maybe Iran up. 

626
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,100
Maybe China or Russia is our 
enemy. 

627
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,900
So this illusion that property 
is safe when there's a state and

628
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,900
people are secure but when 
there's a when there's no 

629
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:47,600
Monopoly on violence. 
Oh, then bad things might 

630
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,400
happen. 
This is the worst condition when

631
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,600
you say you guys have right to 
no one else does and then 

632
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,700
everyone watches them saying. 
Oh, please don't start a nuclear

633
00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:01,000
war, but if you go to war with 
Iran and Russia and China are on

634
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,900
their side, I mean, dear 
heavens. 

635
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:07,500
Well, you know the war that 
baby's been pushing for for four

636
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:10,200
decades since since you wrote 
his book in the 80s. 

637
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,300
So the she's basically engaged 
in in the illusion that 

638
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:19,500
government equals security and 
non-government means anything 

639
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:23,200
might happen when in reality 
spontaneous order and peaceful 

640
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,900
coexistence tend to emerge more 
often in the absence of a state 

641
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:31,700
then under state. 
Yeah, and for the sake of our 

642
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:35,000
Rudder at going forward, maybe 
between our conversations. 

643
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,700
We should adopt the same 
definitions as Mark passio does 

644
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:43,400
in his natural law series or as 
violence when we say the term 

645
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600
violence. 
That should be reserved for the 

646
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,800
illegitimate, immoral initiation
of force and see I'm mixing the 

647
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,500
terms again, violence is the 
immoral initiation of violence 

648
00:36:54,500 --> 00:37:03,800
and force is the legitimate use 
of Do you know which one I'm 

649
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,200
referring to more cassio's 
natural law seminar. 

650
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,800
Well, yes, and this is actually 
one of the questions I asked him

651
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,200
in our, for our interview. 
I say, What's the difference 

652
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,900
between violence and force? 
So, violence is the initiation 

653
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:21,100
of aggression and aggression is 
an Uninvited course of 

654
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,200
interference. 
So that is violent. 

655
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,900
So, I come up to Patrick and 
with a knife and say, give me 

656
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:30,400
your money. 
And you shoot me in response. 

657
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:33,700
You have used Force. 
I used violence. 

658
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:38,000
There's only one violent act 
because I am making a peaceful 

659
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,800
situation violent. 
I'm turning it into the 

660
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,800
initiation of aggression. 
You are using defense self 

661
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,800
defense to stop the aggressor. 
That is not violence. 

662
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,100
That is force. 
Just as you would have the right

663
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:53,500
to use Force to lift up this 
water bottle, and the scientific

664
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:55,600
sense. 
You would have the force to stop

665
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,600
a violent action from being 
engaged in. 

666
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,100
So yes, that is the important 
difference. 

667
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,100
Okay. 
All right. 

668
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,300
What's the quote? 
Then? 

669
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:07,400
What, what's our next quote 
then? 

670
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:11,000
Well, she goes on to say, 
remember that, forcible. 

671
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400
Restraint of men is the only 
service a government has to 

672
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,500
offer, has to offer does not 
justify whether or not it's 

673
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,000
better achieved through a 
monopoly rather than on 

674
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,800
Monopoly. 
I don't know if there should be 

675
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,500
one. 
Firm. 

676
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,700
Two firms, 1000 firms that 
Should be the result of 

677
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:34,600
spontaneous order, an individual
voluntary Association voluntary 

678
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,300
funding. 
So that's just such a weak line.

679
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:41,600
That's all government should do.
What governments so bad and it's

680
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,300
so immoral. 
Why should it do anything? 

681
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,800
She's not explaining why this is
in principle different than 

682
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,900
government making food. 
I mean, I can live without being

683
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:55,700
defended for 48 hours. 
I can live without food for 48 

684
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:57,500
hours. 
Oh, but then, you'll have gang 

685
00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:58,600
Warfare. 
I'm going to grow. 

686
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,700
Food here. 
Now I will and then people will 

687
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:03,100
shoot each other out. 
Then there will be mass murder. 

688
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,000
It's nonsense. 
So just very weak stuff. 

689
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,100
Ask yourself. 
What a competition in forcible 

690
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:14,600
restraint would have to mean, do
you have any response to those 

691
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,900
two sentences? 
So say that again, what would a 

692
00:39:17,908 --> 00:39:21,000
competition? 
Enforce mean here? 

693
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,300
Here's the statement. 
Remember that forcible Restraint

694
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:27,100
of men is the only service a 
government has to offer. 

695
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,600
Ask yourself. 
What? 

696
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,800
a competition in forcible 
restraint would have to mean, 

697
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,700
Hmm. 
Well, I wonder would have to 

698
00:39:36,707 --> 00:39:41,400
mean, I would think is that you,
you would be able to, I mean, so

699
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,700
you have in the libertarian and 
capistan. 

700
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,500
A lot of has been said about hop
has version of, you know, 

701
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:52,400
homeowners Societies or what the
be in your neighborhood or if 

702
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,000
you could, you know, voluntarily
acquire land like that. 

703
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,800
I mean, I would think that If 
you needed to, you would ascribe

704
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,700
to a certain protective agency 
or certain dispute agency and 

705
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:08,300
you would call them up when you 
need them and they would have 

706
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,000
contracts with other agencies to
solve disputes. 

707
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,700
A lot of it would be kind of 
liquidated in the sense that a 

708
00:40:17,707 --> 00:40:21,300
lot of these Arrangements would 
be prearranged beforehand. 

709
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:25,200
A lot of the way that insurance 
companies handle car accidents, 

710
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:31,700
specifically the property damage
from car accidents. and, I just 

711
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,700
don't see exactly where it would
devolve into the kind of 

712
00:40:34,707 --> 00:40:38,100
violence that she's talking 
about because the interest for 

713
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:42,000
each agency, whatever agency you
have they are looking to solve 

714
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600
the dispute with the least 
amount of violence because 

715
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,200
violence equals cost. 
At the end of the day, you're 

716
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,700
going to have to pay for all 
this damage. 

717
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,900
You're going to have to 
reimburse your customers. 

718
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:58,400
If you end up responding to a 
situation and someone dies. 

719
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,100
Well, first of all, you're gonna
have to really Burst the cost. 

720
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,700
Second of all you might get sued
in a lengthy litigation process 

721
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:09,000
and third of all other. 
Your other customers are going 

722
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,700
to see well ABC dispute 
resolution companies showed up 

723
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:17,700
and they ended up going to war 
with d e. 

724
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:22,900
F dispute Agency company. 
Maybe we won't hire their 

725
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,500
services anymore because while 
we don't like our stuff, getting

726
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:31,000
blown up or our dog shot or 
flashbang grenades being thrown.

727
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,800
Into our children's cribs, so 
maybe we won't go that route 

728
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,700
anymore. 
And then so ABC dispute, 

729
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:42,100
resolution company loses money. 
And they will continue to lose 

730
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,400
money and customers, and they 
have no way to recoup that loss 

731
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,300
because they don't have the 
power to extort money from 

732
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,400
people violently against their, 
will they have to satisfy the 

733
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,000
customer? 
So that's how I would Envision 

734
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,700
it. 
Long story, short, she's not 

735
00:41:57,700 --> 00:41:59,600
justifying the existence of a 
state. 

736
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:04,200
When she says what comp what 
will competition look like, put 

737
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,800
playing the psychic game, asking
you to be a psychic right now. 

738
00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:12,900
Again, there are competition 
between there is competition 

739
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,100
between the current existing 
countries because there isn't 

740
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,400
necessarily a one world 
government. 

741
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,500
And so to say the existence of 
competition will lead to unsound

742
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,400
undesirable results. 
Therefore one Monopoly is 

743
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,700
legitimate. 
You're not actually making the 

744
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,800
case and I think she's making 
more of a reality claim. 

745
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,500
Like just let your mind run if 
you different people doing 

746
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:39,300
different things and forcing 
different laws. 

747
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:46,100
Well, you already have every 
business that has a product 

748
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:51,300
deals with 50 other businesses 
to acquire the products to make 

749
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,900
their end product. 
They have disputes all the time.

750
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:56,300
So what they do is they 
recognize it's both Their best 

751
00:42:56,300 --> 00:43:00,300
interest to go to a third-party 
Arbiter and the existence of a 

752
00:43:00,308 --> 00:43:03,100
state obviously does not stop 
disputes. 

753
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:07,700
The biggest most violent 
property rights violating 

754
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,100
disputes are the result of 
government Wars of legislation 

755
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:15,200
that confiscates property. 
I mean, when I saw the 

756
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,500
Washington Post headline of 
civil asset, forfeiture this 

757
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:24,500
year has now surpassed home 
robberies or robberies. 

758
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:27,400
It's like that's similar. 
Asset forfeiture alone, that's 

759
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,900
not even the feds inflation 
policy that hurts the purchasing

760
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,200
power of the dollar. 
That's not even taxation. 

761
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,900
That's not even compliance with 
regulation. 

762
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,500
So, um, again, these are just 
terrible things that could 

763
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:40,900
happen. 
Of course, there's going to be 

764
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:43,200
disputes in the absence of a 
state. 

765
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,300
The existence of a state does 
not stop disputes. 

766
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:46,800
It makes them more lethal, 
honey. 

767
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,400
So gosh, it's just devastating. 
Don't meet your Heroes. 

768
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,700
Don't read about your Heroes. 
We're just gonna have to start 

769
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:58,300
our own thing here. 
One cannot call this Theory, a 

770
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:03,800
contradiction in terms since it 
obviously devoid of any 

771
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,700
understanding of the terms 
competition and government holy 

772
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:12,600
projection nor can one call it a
floating abstraction since it is

773
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,400
devoid of any contact with or 
reference to reality and cannot 

774
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,600
be come can credit eyes as at 
all. 

775
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,100
I don't even know him. 
Concretize. 

776
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:28,600
Can't be concrete at all. 
Not even roughly or 

777
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,500
approximately one illustration 
will be sufficient. 

778
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,700
Okay. 
So this is, this is a litmus 

779
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:37,700
test. 
When someone says, I have one 

780
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,100
argument, I have one 
illustration, just listen to 

781
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,100
this. 
So this is her best one. 

782
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,300
And everything else is worse 
than this. 

783
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:48,900
So if we can get a hold of this 
one, then I think we're good. 

784
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:51,700
One illustration will be 
sufficient. 

785
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,500
Suppose. 
Mr. Smith a customer of 

786
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:58,500
government, a suspect that his 
next-door neighbor. 

787
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:02,700
Mr. Jones, a customer of 
government be has robbed him, a 

788
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,100
squad of police a proceeds to 
mr. 

789
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:09,700
Jones's house, and is met at the
door by a squad of police be who

790
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:12,100
declared that? 
They do not accept the validity 

791
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,900
of mr. 
Smith's complaint and do not 

792
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:15,700
recognize the authority of 
government day. 

793
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:19,100
What happens? 
Then you take it from there. 

794
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,500
R. 
This is the best she can do. 

795
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,200
I mean this was answer pretty 
succinctly by David D Friedman 

796
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,500
in the Machinery of freedom. 
And I guess what? 

797
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:34,500
I already outlined about 
competing dispute resolution 

798
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,200
systems, would take care of this
pretty easily. 

799
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:41,500
A lot of these would be a lot of
these agreements would be 

800
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:45,500
enforced beforehand through 
contractual relations between 

801
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:49,000
these resolution firms. 
Okay, you don't think that they 

802
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,500
could foresee. 
See the possibility of one 

803
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:54,000
client stealing from another 
client and they're being a 

804
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200
dispute. 
I think it would be set up 

805
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,200
beforehand. 
That there would be a burden of 

806
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,900
proof. 
So mr. 

807
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,100
A from with government or 
dispute resolution service a 

808
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,300
suspect that his neighbor be was
stealing from him. 

809
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,900
Well, it is beforehand in 
Mysteries contract with his 

810
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:17,300
dispute resolution agency. 
There is an agreement between 

811
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:20,900
government, a and government be 
and Man is not the right term 

812
00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:24,300
for these agencies, but there's 
an agreement beforehand that 

813
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,200
there is some kind of a burden 
of proof that a customer of 

814
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,500
government. 
A would have to present to 

815
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,600
government. 
Be before they could go forward 

816
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,200
with any kind of recruitment or 
lawsuit, there. 

817
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600
It would probably be a 
preponderance of the evidence 

818
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,100
standard, which is probable, 
cause it might be probable 

819
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,300
cause, which is lower than a 
preponderance probable cause is 

820
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:49,400
like, 30 or 40 percent sure. 
That this happened preponderance

821
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,700
is Fifty percent sure. 
But so you suspect that one of 

822
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,400
your that our clients do from 
one of your clients. 

823
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Well, let's let's do like a 
warrant will review this 

824
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,500
evidence and information and if 
there is if you satisfy the 

825
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,200
standard, then we'll go forward 
from there with the legal 

826
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,600
proceeding. 
If everyone shoots each other. 

827
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,500
Everyone's going to lose money 
in customers. 

828
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:17,800
I mean, it's just pretty simple.
That's why it's just incredible.

829
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Who has the incentive for there?
To be a shootout and a bunch of 

830
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,100
people died in a bunch of people
lose money. 

831
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:28,500
So my first approach is the 
parties involved have the 

832
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,900
incentive to come up with a 
peaceful resolution. 

833
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:36,700
Just as any restaurant works 
with Visa Mastercard American 

834
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:40,000
Express, they work with 
financial institutions. 

835
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:43,300
Those people constantly get into
disputes cell. 

836
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:44,800
Phone companies constantly get 
into. 

837
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,000
Fields, you know, internet 
servers or there's people who 

838
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,500
produce the product. 
There's people who make the 

839
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:57,000
product and then there's the 
retail, there are constantly 

840
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,300
disputes between those three 
organizations. 

841
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,000
And they don't say, all right, 
we're going to court is Judge 

842
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,400
Judy free within the next month 
or so, for us to bring this 

843
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,100
crew. 
They use private arbitration all

844
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:09,500
the time. 
And then my sarcastic answer is 

845
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,400
what what's going to happen. 
If if there's ever a dispute, 

846
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,500
there's going to be World War. 
And then the world war is going 

847
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:19,100
to happen again. 
Then they're gonna nuke a 

848
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,800
hundred thousand innocent 
people. 

849
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,700
Then there's going to be a cold 
war in which 3 million 

850
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:25,800
Vietnamese people die. 
That's what's going to happen. 

851
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,000
If there's ever a dispute 
between neighbor a and neighbor 

852
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,200
be, I mean, come on, how do you 
not see that? 

853
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,500
The existence of a monopoly? 
Coercively, funded state does 

854
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:39,600
not address this problem. 
It exacerbates it, huh. 

855
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:43,900
Just that's just terrible. 
It's I mean precisely her whole 

856
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,300
point going back. 
The other quote about, you know,

857
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:50,100
we have these, if we have these 
competing governments. 

858
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:54,300
It will just be chaos, you know,
the Can same competing 

859
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:56,700
governments within a different 
geographical area. 

860
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:58,600
I mean, we really already have 
that. 

861
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,300
I don't think she's wrong but we
have that's illustrative of the 

862
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:05,100
international scene, where we 
have different states 

863
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,500
interacting with their own 
monopolies on violence. 

864
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,200
And that's precisely the point 
that you just made. 

865
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:15,900
Next one, the common denominator
of such Advocates of competing 

866
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:19,000
government is the desire to 
escape from objectivity. 

867
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,400
Objectivity requires a very long
conceptual chain, and very 

868
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,500
abstract principles to act on 
when aim to deal with men. 

869
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Rather than, with ideas IE with 
the men of their own gang Bound 

870
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,400
by the same concrete, concrete 
is the way you pronounce that. 

871
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,200
Yes, desired. 
So, in other words, the only 

872
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,000
Reason people sort of advocate 
anarchism is their desire to 

873
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,800
escape from objectivity. 
Not necessarily. 

874
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,300
The only reason I objectively am
against government is not 

875
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:56,600
because it tends to be corrupt. 
Or there tend to be lying. 

876
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,700
Psychos that are attracted to 
the situation. 

877
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,900
It's that you cannot justify a 
contradiction that is embracing 

878
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:07,600
objectivity as opposed to what 
she is saying. 

879
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,200
Right here. 
I'm not saying any group has 

880
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:14,600
more rights than Another. 
It's embracing subjectivism to 

881
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,700
say, well, this group has rights
that no one else has and it's 

882
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,500
okay for this group to do 
something, but not this group 

883
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,500
because for a long time, this 
group has had the title, The 

884
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:27,900
Congress group. 
That is the total embracing and 

885
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:31,100
opposition of objectivity, 
Patrick your response to that. 

886
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,400
Yeah. 
I mean precisely that I think 

887
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,800
that I mean, I believe the 
non-aggression principle while 

888
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,300
it's not, you know, the end all 
be all. 

889
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,100
It's a good litmus test at 
least, but I think it is an 

890
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,500
objective litmus test. 
It's like you said, it's 

891
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:52,800
completely objective and it 
seems like the classical liberal

892
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,700
stance or the argument is, and 
maybe Ian. 

893
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:57,800
Rand would agree with this. 
Is that the purpose of 

894
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,200
government is to protect life. 
Liberty and property, right? 

895
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,800
Well in protecting life. 
Liberty and property. 

896
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,900
You have to violate life, 
liberty, and property of 

897
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:11,100
everyone. 
Underneath this government. 

898
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,300
It's just a contradiction in 
terms. 

899
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,000
And there are some times where 
it's like, okay guy is knocked 

900
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,700
out. 
Is it okay to kidnap someone 

901
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:24,100
against their will and take them
somewhere else? 

902
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:25,300
No. 
Okay. 

903
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:28,100
Well what if the guys in a coma 
and he needs surgery is that 

904
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:30,200
okay to take him against his 
will and bring him to the 

905
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,600
hospital? 
Okay. 

906
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,000
Yes. 
So even though you can find 

907
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,000
individual examples of where you
can do the opposite of what 

908
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,400
these principles say. 
We have to realize what the 

909
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,900
state is, you're saying some 
people have rights other people 

910
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:45,900
do. 
Out and even though I can 

911
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:49,900
sometimes justify forcibly 
taking someone in a coma and 

912
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:52,900
taking them against their will 
to a hospital because I'm making

913
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:55,100
the Judgment. 
Well, if I could get their 

914
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:58,100
permission, they would say yes, 
that's me doing it. 

915
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,100
And I'm not claiming to have 
rights. 

916
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:04,700
No one else has coming up with 
an example of when violating, a 

917
00:52:04,707 --> 00:52:08,700
principle would be justified in 
no way, justifies the 

918
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:13,200
contradiction of statism and the
institutionalized embracing of a

919
00:52:13,207 --> 00:52:14,200
contradiction. 
No. 

920
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,900
All right. 
We got two more here. 

921
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:22,200
Painful. 
All right picture, a band of 

922
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,600
strangers. 
Marching down Main Street, 

923
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,600
submachine guns at the ready as 
opposed to governments. 

924
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,000
Who would just never do that? 
Never intimidate a populist. 

925
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,100
When confronted by police The 
Leader of the Band, announces 

926
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,300
me. 
And the boys are only here to 

927
00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:41,000
see that Justice is done. 
So you have no right to 

928
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:46,200
interfere with us according to 
libertarian and are In such a 

929
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,000
confrontation, the police are 
morally bound to withdraw on 

930
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,900
pain of betraying. 
The rights of self-defense and 

931
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:56,800
free trade. 
How sad is that? 

932
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,800
They're marching down? 
What are they marching down Main

933
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:00,800
Street? 
All right. 

934
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:05,200
So the owner and organization of
Main Street has the right to 

935
00:53:05,207 --> 00:53:08,500
determine what is a legitimate 
threat and what is not, they 

936
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:11,600
have the right to exclude people
if they feel from their private 

937
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,900
property. 
In fact, only the anarchist has 

938
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:17,500
a real objection to this because
the state is says, well that's 

939
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:19,500
public property, anyone can go 
on it. 

940
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,600
But the owner of Main Street 
would say, yeah, you can have a 

941
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,100
gun. 
Yeah, you can have an M16. 

942
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:27,100
Yeah, you can't have a grenade 
launcher. 

943
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,400
You're gonna have to go. 
If you don't go you'll be met 

944
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:32,500
with our guns. 
The fact that this is going to 

945
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:34,700
happen. 
All the time is ridiculous. 

946
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:38,500
It happens mostly with 
governments and it would be at 

947
00:53:38,500 --> 00:53:40,300
the discretion of the private 
property owner. 

948
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,000
Some places would allow tanks. 
Other places wouldn't allow 

949
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,200
knives. 
So, this again is a swing and a 

950
00:53:48,207 --> 00:53:50,000
miss according to the bound of 
free trade. 

951
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,900
Yeah, it would be decided by 
private property owners, whether

952
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,000
the people Were allowed to stay 
with their machine guns or not. 

953
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,700
Patrick. 
I mean just as yourself or just 

954
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,400
picture the people in your 
community. 

955
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:07,600
There's a bunch of namby-pamby 
liberals running around. 

956
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:10,800
Are they going to want to take 
the wife and kids to a grocery 

957
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,600
store that has armed pulley? 
Like armed Riot, cops out front 

958
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:21,300
with grenade launchers and M16s.
I mean no is the grocery store 

959
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:25,100
owner really going to Keep 
these. 

960
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:28,200
First of all, is the grocery 
store owner going to pay a bunch

961
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,100
of thugs to sit around with guns
and plate carriers and you know,

962
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:36,800
helmets and everything. 
And is he going to want to still

963
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,700
pay for it? 
When none of the families in the

964
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:43,900
neighborhood are going to want 
to come to the grocery store and

965
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:45,700
buy their goods, with armed, 
security. 

966
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:50,500
Guards, like, staring them down.
I wouldn't I wouldn't go to that

967
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:54,200
grocery store. 
And just apply the same thing to

968
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,900
say to them and the principal is
no different. 

969
00:54:56,900 --> 00:55:01,000
Her worry is not solved by the 
existence of a state say, a band

970
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,000
of strangers, marches down Trump
street with their guns at the 

971
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,400
ready. 
Well, but instead of strangers, 

972
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,800
they all know each other and 
they're part of a costume 

973
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:14,400
camouflage where and group 
called army or military or 

974
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,800
Marines when confronted by I 
don't know who the equivalent 

975
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,600
would be the people who live 
there. 

976
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,600
Hey, we don't want you marching 
down our Streets, we don't want 

977
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,700
a police state. 
Then what happens? 

978
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:30,500
So she sets herself up. 
She she again, it's using me. 

979
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:33,300
Hey, bad imperfect thing, might 
happen. 

980
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,600
Therefore governments Justified.
Well, hold on bed, 

981
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,800
uncomfortable, prop, dangerous 
thing, could happen that in no 

982
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,300
way, justifies the legitimacy of
them Monopoly government. 

983
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:49,600
It's like, it's literally, like,
saying bad things might happen. 

984
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,300
Don't you agree in the world, 
bad things might happen. 

985
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:54,600
And of course, I agree. 
It's the world. 

986
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:56,300
Yeah. 
So therefore, the Catholic 

987
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:58,700
church should have a monopoly on
laws and regulations. 

988
00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:02,900
No, no, that does not follow 
from the fact that bad things - 

989
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:04,400
what do you mean the Catholic 
Church? 

990
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,000
Government has no more right 
than the Catholic church or 

991
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,600
Scientology or Walmart or the 
Circle K gas station to impose 

992
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,600
that. 
So again, it's another non 

993
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:20,300
sequitur any predictions on Main
Street scenario. 

994
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,000
I mean, what about Kent State? 
I mean, I would say that or, I 

995
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,700
mean, what about the LA riots 
when the this police presence 

996
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,200
that Ian Rand wanted utterly 
failed to protect business 

997
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,000
owners and you have South 
Koreans on rooftops with their 

998
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,100
own weapon shooting away 
rioters. 

999
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Was it South Koreans? 
I believe it was Koreans, right?

1000
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,000
They were Korean swarams. 
I don't know if they eat from 

1001
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,400
the North or came voluntarily 
from the South, but but yeah, 

1002
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,400
that mirror, you are talks about
that book in her book questions 

1003
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,600
and answers to libertarianism. 
Yeah. 

1004
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:07,700
Okay. 
So finally, the last one private

1005
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:11,100
force is force not authorized by
the government. 

1006
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,200
I don't think I've read this 
already unless you just making a

1007
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,800
distinction without a principal 
difference, not validated by its

1008
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,200
procedural safeguards and not 
subject to its supervision. 

1009
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,600
That is correct in the same way.
Unlicensed industry is not 

1010
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,300
authorized by the government. 
I don't know, please don't go 

1011
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:37,800
anywhere. 
Bad has to regard such private 

1012
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Force as a threat. 
IE as a potential violation of 

1013
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,500
Dividual rights Jesus. 
Dude. 

1014
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:48,400
I have not read this one in 
barring such private Force. 

1015
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,800
The government is retaliate is 
retaliating against the threat 

1016
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
in borrowing against such 
private cars. 

1017
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,600
The government is retaliating 
against us Prime G dumbass in 

1018
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,100
what government has the right? 
No one else. 

1019
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:06,200
Does they get a monopoly on all 
the weapons? 

1020
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Because a potential weapon in 
the hands of a private 

1021
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,000
individual can threaten the 
state's Monopoly. 

1022
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,800
You haven't even Justified. 
The reason this group of 

1023
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,900
individuals has a said Monopoly,
in the first place has extra 

1024
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:18,900
rights. 
That no one else had if they get

1025
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,400
their rights from the people and
the people didn't have the right

1026
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,600
in the first place. 
How can they delegate it to 

1027
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,700
another group? 
Dude? 

1028
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:29,500
That is so freaking sad. 
I mean dude, did you advocate 

1029
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:33,300
for private gun ownership? 
You know, what? 

1030
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Oh, that would be. 
That should be our next one. 

1031
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:39,000
We can go to the genes and see 
what you said. 

1032
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,300
But I know the head of the iron 
rain Institute. 

1033
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:44,200
Yaron Brook is not a gun guy at 
all. 

1034
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,200
Really? 
No. 

1035
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,900
No, it was very anti 2nd 
Amendment saying that, that is 

1036
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:55,700
in the realm of forest, 
government should be in the 

1037
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:57,900
realm of force. 
Even if you did have all the 

1038
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:00,700
guns, government has more guns. 
What matters is ideas? 

1039
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:01,900
Not? 
Force. 

1040
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,500
And that's, that's just wrong. 
That. 

1041
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:07,300
That's just obviously wrong. 
They were two cops killed in New

1042
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:09,300
York City. 
And as a result, was it 

1043
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,000
Bloomberg or DeBlasio? 
Who said, you know what? 

1044
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,900
That's it. 
We're not going to be patrolling

1045
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,800
freaks. 
We're only going to come out now

1046
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,600
if there's like a real immediate
threat to which all the end caps

1047
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,200
around the world said Praise 
Jesus, so no increasing 

1048
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,100
likelihood. 
That governments will have to 

1049
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:30,900
bear the cost of their life or 
risk their life. 

1050
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:36,300
Them from engaging in such 
tollett arianism dude, that 

1051
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:40,000
might have been one of the worst
things I've ever heard from any 

1052
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:44,700
objectivist libertarian cap. 
Private Force should be Barb and

1053
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:48,000
government should have a, yeah, 
that is just so bad. 

1054
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,600
And as I said, she hasn't 
Justified the Monopoly. 

1055
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,700
She hasn't said, why government 
group has rights private group X

1056
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:58,400
does not have I hate to end it. 
On that note, but Heavens what 

1057
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,600
works? 
Hold on. 

1058
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,300
Go. 
Go and look up the gun. 

1059
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,200
Quote before we go. 
Do you have any response to 

1060
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:10,100
what's to that one? 
I mean Nothing beyond what you 

1061
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:14,100
already said it. 
I mean that's a totalitarian 

1062
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:19,400
mindset. but just tell the 
pashtun people of Afghanistan 

1063
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:28,000
that Or or you know, she 
actually does defined government

1064
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,700
in the G section. 
A government is an institution 

1065
01:00:31,700 --> 01:00:34,900
that holds the exclusive power, 
to enforce certain rules of 

1066
01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:39,400
social contact and conduct in a 
given geographical area. 

1067
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,600
Nope, that also applies to 
corporations neighborhoods and 

1068
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,700
hmos. 
Yeah, so she doesn't distinguish

1069
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:49,100
between initiating violence on 
property. 

1070
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:52,200
You have not acquired versus 
Offer to you have acquired. 

1071
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,300
That's the difference between. 
I get the rules of my house. 

1072
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:58,200
And if I build in an apartment 
complex, I get to make the 

1073
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,200
rules, but you don't get to make
the rules for the country, 

1074
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:03,100
right? 
Different between the two 

1075
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:05,200
monopolies. 
I've acquired it through 

1076
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:08,900
voluntary funding original 
appropriation, homesteading 

1077
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:13,100
voluntary Exchange in contract. 
Government has said that over 

1078
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:17,200
there, bite me signing. 
This paper is mine and they get 

1079
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,100
it from another group of psychos
who been acquired voluntarily in

1080
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:22,500
the first place. 
This is really a dumpster fire, 

1081
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:25,700
Keith. 
I didn't dude. 

1082
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:28,700
I had not read that last one. 
I swear, what? 

1083
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:31,100
It's not under G. 
It's not on the guns. 

1084
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:34,000
Maybe it's under second 
amendment, we can, but we can 

1085
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,600
find it later, because I don't 
think we've done one, just on 

1086
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,400
gun rights. 
I know it comes up all the time.

1087
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:41,500
Yeah. 
No, we haven't probably be a 

1088
01:01:41,508 --> 01:01:45,300
pretty popular too. 
But that's three pages on sex. 

1089
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,300
So gun, something has to be in 
here. 

1090
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:51,900
We'll do that next time. 
Any final words up at. 

1091
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:56,100
Oh, no, I think that's Other 
than just a regular plugs as we 

1092
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:59,700
close up here, you know, maybe I
didn't miss too much by not 

1093
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:04,500
studying, Ian Rand. 
Now, we'll get too bad. 

1094
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:07,400
We can't get Michael malice on 
to talk about Ian ran, because 

1095
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,200
he is both an anarchist and 
really likes R. 

1096
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,100
And so what what this is a blind
spot. 

1097
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:17,600
Just like Thomas Jefferson, had 
so many brilliant things to say.

1098
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:22,100
Yeah, but they engaged in the 
contradiction of slavery. 

1099
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:24,900
There's a lot of nice people. 
Who are Democrats and 

1100
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:28,100
Republicans, who have no problem
supporting the murdering 

1101
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:30,800
military, who, what is worse 
than that? 

1102
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,600
It's bad as regulating and 
taxing our, if you support mass 

1103
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,700
murder, just because of some 
group does it. 

1104
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,900
It's okay for that group. 
That's as bad as it gets. 

1105
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:44,400
So once we just, if we can't 
rule out those people from. 

1106
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,600
So being good people. 
I think I rank R and still gets 

1107
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,000
a pass. 
We'll have to look more into 

1108
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,600
that. 
But thank you for having me on 

1109
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:54,500
great great time. 
Always. 

1110
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:57,900
Yeah, of course, of course, so 
as we close up here, all the 

1111
01:02:57,908 --> 01:03:00,900
regular plugs. 
We are doing a live streamed 

1112
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:04,600
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our patreon, our patrons can 

1113
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,200
come in and actually talk with 
us and we'll be recording that 

1114
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,100
and putting that on patreon. 
So maybe we'll do that again in 

1115
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,000
the future of this is pretty 
successful. 

1116
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,800
But if you want to become a 
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1117
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,200
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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,500
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1119
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:25,000
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1120
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,400
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1121
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,300
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1122
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:35,000
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you got. 

1123
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,300
Keith Keith nights. 
Don't tread on anyone on 

1124
01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:39,100
YouTube. 
I'll put that in the show. 

1125
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:42,300
Notes page, Keith. 
You've been doing such good work

1126
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:45,100
for such a long time, buddy. 
Well, thanks so much. 

1127
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:48,500
I try to get at least one video 
out every four days. 

1128
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:50,300
I tried. 
It will get get something new 

1129
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:53,900
out and I got a great collage. 
It's another long collage. 

1130
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:56,600
But it's the equipment. 
It's still less than one day of 

1131
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,800
schooling, which we did five 
days a week for 12 or 16 years. 

1132
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,600
So my next collage, it's 
terrific. 

1133
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:06,000
I'll just tell you, it's Jan 
hell, feld's. 

1134
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,600
Socratic method. 
It's the best of his interviews 

1135
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,100
of him. 
Just grilling these inconsistent

1136
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:14,000
politicians. 
So subscribe on YouTube and 

1137
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,000
bitch, you because YouTube they 
are cracking down. 

1138
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,900
They just band like a ton of 
Crowder's videos, just because 

1139
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:22,900
the guy from vaux had written a 
complaint on Twitter. 

1140
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,000
Yeah. 
Moms are so yeah. 

1141
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:29,300
Yeah YouTube and bitch you 
everything you get on YouTube, 

1142
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:31,500
You'll also get on bit shoot. 
It's just a great place to have 

1143
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,300
things archived. 
Yeah. 

1144
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:35,800
It's just a matter of time, just
a matter of time. 

1145
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,000
So well with that will close up.
Thanks. 

1146
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,100
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