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What's up everybody? 
Welcome to a brand new episode 

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of Part of the Problem. 
I am thrilled to have one of my 

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favorite people to talk to. 
Obviously, he's been on the show

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many times before. 
Keith Knight. 

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He is the managing editor at the
Libertarian Institute. 

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He's also the host of the Don't 
Tread on Anyone podcast. 

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I, in my opinion, one of the 
absolute best and brightest 

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voices in the liberty movement 
today. 

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How are you, Keith? 
I am doing very well, Dave. 

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I've been loving your peers. 
Morgan appearances, dude, you've

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been knocking them out of the 
park. 

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I'm so happy we're reaching 
those people. 

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Well, thank you very much. 
It's uh yeah, it's always good. 

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It's always good to get in front
of a new audience. 

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And Piers Morgan has been very 
kind to me. 

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I do think there are far too 
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I do enjoy doing them. 
And so that that has been a lot 

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of fun. 
Anyway, so we, as I mentioned, I

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had Scott Horton on the show 
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that the Libertarian Institute, 
which of course was Scott 

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Horton's creation, along with a 
few other really great people 

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like, well, Greg and Sheldon 
Richmond, they have their annual

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fundraiser going on right now. 
Of course, this is the institute

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that is produced enough already.
And Fool's Errand has Scott 

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Horton's new book Provoked 
coming out, which I'm so excited

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for everybody to read because I 
don't know if you've got an 

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advanced copy, but it's just 
incredible. 

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I'm sure you have. 
And of course, your fantastic 

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book Domestic Imperialism was 
was published by the Libertarian

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Institute, of course, Tom Woods,
if you guys are familiar, where 

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if you remember when I debated 
Chris Cuomo, the book that I 

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gave him was Diary of a 
Psychosis by Tom Woods that was 

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also published by the 
Libertarian Institute. 

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Just an incredible organization.
If you can give money, this is 

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like the best thing to give 
money to. 

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So anything else you want to say
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And then we'll get into the 
episode. 

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But what do you have to say 
about the Libertarian Institute?

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Anyone who makes a donation can 
get any of those books as a 

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gift. 
My book Domestic Imperialism is 

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also one that you can get there,
but I love Tom's book. 

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It is full of tons of empirical 
evidence, principled arguments, 

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and Cuomo's best argument was 
just to call you Legion of Skank

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like 6 times. 
He goes if I get it in a 

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seventh. 
Maybe this will really take 

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Smith down, but when you're 
armed with Tom Woods's COVID 

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book, nothing is able to compete
against it. 

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So yes, Scott Horton, very 
wealthy in knowledge. 

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However, when it comes to 
monetary wealth, Scott and I do 

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need funding for our next books.
I'm working on two more myself. 

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We have a Waco project in the 
works constantly trying to hire 

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people so we can be the 
libertarian educational website.

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So you can go to our search 
engine, type in minimum wage, 

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Winston Churchill, agricultural 
subsidies and get the 

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libertarian position on those. 
Progressives say we want to give

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you a free education. 
By that they you mean 10s of 

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thousands of dollars a year. 
Or they'll property tax you and 

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then give you a complete shit 
education. 

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We actually want to provide a 
free monetary cost education at 

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libertarianinstitute.org/donate.
Please go there to help us out. 

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Yeah, Isn't it so weird? 
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this up, I'm not even like, I 
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this, but isn't it crazy that As
for me, I'm a little bit older 

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than you, Keith, maybe a year or
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But I remember when I, you know,
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being somewhat plausible that 
you're like, hey, you know, you 

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need an education and maybe you 
need some help financially 

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paying for that education. 
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I was just talking to my wife 
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about our kids, who, you know, 
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And we're talking about like 
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they're going to go to college? 
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I don't know. 
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some argument that if one of 
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or something like that, that, 
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of paper in order to be able to 
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But isn't it crazy that not just
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you do on your channel, but if 
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it's amazing how the market has 
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education that is better than 
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imagined. 
Like more resources than when I 

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was a little kid. 
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school could have possibly said,
I have every book that's ever 

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been written and and I have a 
lecture on that book by the 

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smartest person, like breaking 
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Obviously like it in 1985, if 
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if I had that? 
Everyone we've got, well, yeah, 

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OK, if you had that, then you 
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And now we have that and they're
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because you need a gender 
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that. 
It's pretty unbelievable. 

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Yeah, and even if the state 
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people to pay for it, again, 
still not free. 

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The state paying for it is 
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They see it obviously when it's 
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a lot of money, but then again, 
it's free because government 

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pays for it. 
It's like, no, that's, that's 

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money and resources, but even 
the opportunity cost, 4 years of

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your life to learn about this 
bullshit food pyramid and these 

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bullshit mask mandates, that's 
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So yes, too high in opportunity 
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So yes, that's why we are 
building the Libertarian 

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institute to not just say the 
school system sucks, but to 

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create an alternative. 
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YouTube, Odyssey, Khan Academy, 
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I say Internet? 
netarchive.org. 

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Those places are just treasure 
troves of private, voluntarily 

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funded educational sites. 
So yeah, but we got the 

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arguments for private education 
as well. 100% by the way, I'll 

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tell you that I I always get 
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That was just my wife literally 
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today, earlier today, she was 
like, I think you need to do an 

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episode where you just go 
through your recommended reading

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list because she was, you know, 
she manages a lot of my like 

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e-mail and social media accounts
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Not my Twitter. 
My Twitter is all me. 

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I do that. 
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talking to my wife. 
So if you, if you send me a 

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message on anything else, you're
just sending my wife a message. 

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But that's OK, That's she'll get
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But she was like, you know, 
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your recommended reading list 
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And she's like, maybe you should
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And I was like, that is actually
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I probably should do that. 
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ask that the Libertarian 
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books is a great place to start.
And I'm not just saying that 

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because you're on the show or 
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Scott and a lot of people over 
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It, it's genuine. 
It's genuinely like true. 

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Like Sheldon Richmond's book 
Coming to Palestine is an I 

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always recommend that for 
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If you, if you just like don't 
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Palestine conflict and you want 
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one there. 
There's just so many great books

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that you you guys have have 
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So it's the the best place to 
start your reading list, and the

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best place to donate your money 
if you can, is the Libertarian 

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Institute. 
Thank you so much, Dave. 

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Greatly appreciate it. 
OK, so for today's episode, now 

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I'm, I'm going on vacation in 
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I'm trying to get some episodes 
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But what we wanted to talk about
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gave, I think a little over a 
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State is the Health of War. 
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did you realize that you got the
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intentional? 
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So originally war is the health 
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Randolph born this would have 
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World War. 
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a population is terrified of an 
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of the domestic population is 
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infringements they otherwise 
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with in a time of peace when 
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What I wanted to do is make the 
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generally funded, what makes 
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the state's ability to have 
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they could print money and fund 
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allow people to to opt out. 
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They get to coercively fund 
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more likely because you're 
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engaging in the activity. 
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educational monopolies with 
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laws, or as Kamala Harris likes 
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enforcement laws. 
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kids ages what, 5 to 18K through
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They brag about, well, forced 
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I'm against it. 
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taking a stand. 
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me to take a stand on this, but 
Vladimir Zelinsky enslaving all 

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men ages 18 to 65 to fight in 
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blown off so we could make sure 
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Kiev. 
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when it comes to states that are
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General Curtis Lemay famously 
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Operation Meetinghouse, the fire
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1945, that, you know, if we lose
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as war criminals. 
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fog of war. 
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any legal repercussions, those 
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much more likely to engage in 
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privatize security. 
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there that had America lost 
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to see a scenario in which we're
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but that we clearly could have 
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that like our people could have 
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Nuremberg trials could have 
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America after World War 2 or 
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after Iraq or any of these. 
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arguments have been against 
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It would have just been like, 
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Nuremberg trials, that was 
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war where McNamara on I'm 
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this. 
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says proportionality should be a
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Killing 50% to 90% of the people
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bombing them with two nuclear 
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the, in the minds of some people
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because he was collecting 
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military. 
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narratives are so vitally 
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is, well, America was attacked 
out of the blue for basically no

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reason at Pearl Harbor. 
So look, don't bug me with any 

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of this. 
Killing Japanese civilians is 

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bad. 
They started it as if the people

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getting killed in Operation 
Meetinghouse in Hiroshima were 

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involved in Yamamoto's decision 
to attack Pearl Harbor. 

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Whatever. 
OK, you're a psychotic 

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collectivist. 
Either way, the Pearl Harbor 

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story is a complete myth. 
The best evidence for this? 

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There's a number of things. 
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Pearl Harbor was actually 
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Secretary of War Henry Stimson. 
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reports on the Pearl Harbor 
investigation focusing on 

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Admiral Richardson and Admiral 
Stark. 

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And on page 177, Stimson 
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of 1941, the President Roosevelt
brought up the event that we 

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were likely to be attacked 
perhaps as soon as next Monday. 

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For the Japanese are notorious 
for making an attack without 

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warning. 
And the question was what we 

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should do. 
The question was how we should 

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maneuver them into the position 
of firing the first shot without

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allowing too much danger to 
ourselves. 

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Realize this was Roosevelt's 
policy and we didn't find it out

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until 1972 when the British War 
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Churchill were finally released 
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If you look up an article by the
New York Times, this would have 

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been January 2nd, 1972. 
What's called war entry plans 

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laid to Roosevelt and Churchill 
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August of 1940. 
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was sure they could come in. 
The president was going to be 

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more and more provocative in 
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Germans or Japanese. 
Everything was to be done to 

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force an incident. 
We can also know this is true 

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because after Pearl Harbor, it 
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Oh, I'm so sorry. 
I meant to keep us safe. 

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Government did not uphold our 
end of the social contract, so 

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we're going to return everyone's
tax money because that's why you

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have to pay, because we keep you
safe so we don't hold up our 

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end. 
We got to give everyone refunds.

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No, there was no apology. 
There was give us more money, 

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more power, and now we get to 
kill with impunity. 

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So realizing the Pearl Harbor 
myth is so important because the

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lack of empathy people have for 
mass murder, arguably genocide. 

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Tucker can't even bring it up 
without getting hassled by the 

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Daily Wire crew. 
It's just terrible. 

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And then they the the nail in 
the coffin was in 1999, 

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Robertsonnett published a book 
titled Day of Deceit where he 

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cites the McCullum memo which 
says, I don't know if I have 

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that here. 
The last line in this memo 

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written in October of 1940 says 
if by these means he lists 5 

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things that the US could do, 
Japan could be led to commit an 

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act of war, So much the better. 
At all events, we must be fully 

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prepared to accept the threat of
war. 

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So the state did not not have 
the incentive to keep the peace.

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The state is the health of war 
and had every incentive to 

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provoke an incident to justify a
mass murder campaign, knowing 

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their social status and power 
would drastically increase if 

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the nation was involved in war. 
With the idea of collective 

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punishment or holding a group of
people responsible for what 

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their government does in an act,
let let's just say it's an act 

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of aggression. 
You know, it's like, imagine if 

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anyone were to say to the 
American people, you know, like 

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you, Keith or me, Dave, you're 
responsible for the Inflation 

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Reduction Act and you'd go, 
wait, wait, what? 

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Like I, I mean like literally 
forget even like us, grab 

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someone who's not political at 
all, go to you like your kids 

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Little League game and grab a 
random parent and go, hey, how 

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about that, the inflation 
reduction act? 

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What did you do right there? 
And they'd go, I don't even know

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what you're talking about. 
Like they don't even know that 

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the government did this. 
And there's tons of like drone 

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strikes and, and military 
campaigns that like our, our 

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people don't even know about. 
Imagine holding you responsible 

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for something like that and then
you know, that's it. 

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It. 
It is the same logic as holding 

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the Japan, some random Japanese 
guy. 

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And this isn't even like today 
in the information age. 

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This is like, you know, you're 
bombing some village in Japan. 

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They may not even have known 
that Pearl Harbor even happened.

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They have no idea. 
They're like, dude, I'm fishing.

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What are you talking about? 
I have no idea. 

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It's just some random dude who 
got caught up in some 

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international dispute and 
powerful people over here, we're

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trying to take over and they 
just, it's like, Yep, you got to

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be incinerated in order for us 
to take more power. 

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The the real history is that. 
And Brian Kaplan makes the 

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excellent, concise argument in a
book titled How Evil are 

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Politicians. 
Spoiler alert Barry, he says the

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problem with war, The costs are 
extremely high, the outcomes are

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extremely uncertain, and with 
the nuking of Japan, the 

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greatest bulwark against the 
Chairman Mao I. 

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I forget what Mao's title was at
the time when he was fighting 

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Chiang Kai Shek's army, but that
was one argument for not 

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completely destroying them with 
unconditional surrender. 2 They 

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occupied Vietnam since September
of 1940 and had Korea as a 

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colony since 1910. 
So once the US took down those 

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damn Japs, we inherited 2 
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Vietnam that otherwise would not
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But it's very hard to foresee 
those things. 

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So this is the ultimate 
contradiction that we always 

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hear. 
If you're unhappy with the way 

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your government's doing things, 
make a sign, persuade your 

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neighbors, but don't really get 
physical. 

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You can't even go inside the 
Capitol building. 

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We'll blow your head off if you 
try to do that without a 

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permission slip. 
So if government violates your 

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freedoms, try to persuade 
yourself out of it. 

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But if any foreign government 
potentially might in the future 

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threaten your freedoms, we must 
go to war. 

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We must kill 10s of thousands of
civilians. 

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We must advocate turning places 
into glass publicly. 

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That's what we do when there's a
potential threat of our freedoms

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from anyone else. 
But when this domestic regime 

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takes all your freedoms away, 
well, you just got to lay down 

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and die for it. 
So the fact that the vast 

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majority of the educated elite 
population believes in the two 

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things which are are completely 
opposed to one another, they're 

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right. 
The cost of engaging in violence

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are extremely high and the 
outcomes are extremely 

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uncertain. 
That's why war should be 

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avoided, and that's why State is
the ultimate culprit when it 

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comes to war, because the cost 
of them going to war is much 

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lower than any other 
organization who has to 

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associate freely with fighters 
and has to fund it out of their 

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own pocket. 
Yeah. 

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So, OK, so the idea that war is 
the health of the state, I think

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has been pretty fairly 
established over the years, and 

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that it's like, obviously after 
911 and we're like, hey, we're 

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at war now because this enemy 
declared war against us, I 

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guess, as the official 
narrative. 

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Then of course, you're going to 
have the creation of the 

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Department of Homeland Security,
and you're going to have the TSA

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under that, and you're going to 
have the Patriot Act and you're 

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going to have all these things. 
So I think people recognize that

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when you're at war, the state 
has to grow. 

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But I think the point that 
you're making about the state 

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being the health of war is 
something more like, OK, if you 

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have a state and you like, if if
a state already exists and you 

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recognize that war is the health
of the state, then wouldn't it 

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follow that if the state already
exists, they'd want something 

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that is the health of it? 
So wouldn't they be looking for 

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something that could make them 
stronger and richer? 

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I mean, look like I as as I'm a,
a person with a family. 

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And if you were to say that 
something is the health of this 

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person and family, then I'd 
probably be looking to create 

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that thing that is the health of
my family, right. 

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So if you're the state and war 
is the health of the state, then

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wouldn't as a state you always 
be looking for more war? 

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Exactly. 
Even the most defensible 

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examples I do want to touch on, 
I have one more thing on 

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Churchill, but the the one that 
people might be most familiar 

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with is on this would have been 
I think September 20th of 2001. 

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George Bush is speaking to 
Congress and says Americans are 

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asking why do they hate us? 
They hate what they see in this 

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chamber, a democratically 
elected government. 

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Their leaders are self 
appointed. 

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They hate our right to vote. 
Our freedom of speech and our 

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freedom to disagree with each 
other says something to to to 

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that extent. 
Now the point of terrorism is to

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have a shortcut to fame, to 
bring the world a message. 

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And you can read bin Laden's own
words in anything that he's 

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published since his letter to 
King Fod in 1995, but most 

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famously in tactical 
recommendations. 

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He says the Americans are 
occupying the land of the two 

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holy sanctuaries, Mecca and 
Medina. 

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And just as we were able to 
drive the Soviet empire out, 

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we're going to drive the 
Americans out. 

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The Americans are starving kids 
in Iraq. 

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He uses the number of 2 million 
to rile his troops. 

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The number is not 2 million, but
that's what he uses. 

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And then says that Israel is 
basically AUS creation going 

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back to Harry Truman and is 
ultimately responsible for the 

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plight of Palestinians in 
Israel, Gaza and the West Bank. 

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So it's the three things that he
talks about non-stop. 

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You can read a collection of his
work. 

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It's titled Al Qaeda in its own 
words. 

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It was published by Harvard 
Universe Varsity. 

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This is what his actual gripe 
was. 

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So after September 11th, after 
Bush did not keep us safe, his 

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approval rating went to 91%. 
Jeb Bush once on the 

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presidential debate stage 
against Donald Trump said, say 

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what you want about my brother, 
he kept us safe. 

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And Trump says 911 happened 
under your brother. 

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Apparently the crowd was very 
offended for Trump saying that. 

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I don't know, but it's 
absolutely bizarre. 

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So the Taliban was not allied 
with al Qaeda by any means. 

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There did not have to be a war 
over something like this. 

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In fact, October 14th of 2001, 
the Taliban's Deputy Prime 

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Minister, Haji Abdul Kabir came 
out and said we don't want war 

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with America. 
We're power hungry. 

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You could just hear him saying, 
look, we just want to violently 

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dominate the people of 
Afghanistan. 

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We don't want to have to fight 
the Americans here. 

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We'll hand over bin Laden over 
to to any third country. 

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So we're not, it's not directly 
to America, not to Israel, but 

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any of these potential third 
parties. 

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And then immediately Egypt. 
Well, then he's on a plane to DC

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for some Nuremberg type trial. 
George Bush mentions this in his

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book Decision points in the 
chapter titled Afghanistan, 

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where he says the goal of 
telling of demanding the Taliban

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to hand bin Laden over was a 
method of showing their 

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defiance. 
So he goes, my plan is to show 

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their defiance, hand him over to
which the Taliban says we'll 

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hand him over to any third 
country to which Bush says and 

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NATO, they have their first 
Article 5 declaration of war. 20

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year war leads after 11 days. 
After the 20 year war the 

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Taliban receives is Kabul. 
This was NATO's first 

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declaration of war and now 
there's nothing to learn from 

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that. 
But I guess we might have to 

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start going after Putin and 
expanding NAO even even more. 

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So this is the psychopathy. 
Even the Afghan war is a 

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completely unjust, justifiable 
when you look at the cost to 

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civilians. 
And even under Donald Trump, the

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Watson Institute at Brown 
University found that under 

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Trump, civilian deaths in 
Afghanistan increased 330%. 

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It's totally evil. 
This is the pro-life movement 

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that we have. 
This is the head of the pro-life

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movement, Donald Trump 
justifying mass murder of 

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civilians. 
So the state continues to be the

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health of war, even in the best 
examples. 

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Yeah, jeez, it really is 
something. 

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And to see, like, even think, if
you think about the fact that 

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the Taliban was essentially the 
landlords, you know, like they 

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00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,720
were essentially like they 
rented out some land to a group 

452
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,960
that, you know, like, imagine 
going to an apartment building 

453
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:27,160
and someone in the apartment 
building was accused of murder 

454
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,880
and going, I'm going to hold the
landlord responsible. 

455
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,640
And the landlord goes, oh, hey, 
if one of my tenants killed 

456
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,240
someone, go, you know, I'd love 
to help you investigate that. 

457
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,120
And they go, no, no, no, you're 
the bad guy. 

458
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,040
We're going to fight A20 year 
catastrophic war to make sure 

459
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,600
that you don't own this building
anymore. 

460
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,440
Against your other tenants. 
Right. 

461
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:59,240
And then you fail and you leave 
that landlord with more weapons 

462
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,840
than they've ever had before. 
And then you still go back and 

463
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,840
go, all right, what's the next 
one? 

464
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040
What's the next war we're going 
to fight? 

465
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,000
That's what. 
We're talking about. 

466
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Of pause and reflection in Scott
Horton's book Fool's Errand, he 

467
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,040
has a source that Al Qaeda on 
September 12th of 2001 was 

468
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,120
roughly 400 fighters. 
Decade or two later, the Islamic

469
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:25,840
State of Iraq and Syria had 10s 
of thousands of fighters in 

470
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,680
multiple countries. 
So yes, it is this old 10 -, 2 =

471
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,400
20. 
You do create more terrorists 

472
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,800
when you engage in in these 
activities. 

473
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,280
It it's also funny because in 
that Afghanistan chapter of 

474
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,080
George Bush's book, he says that
terrorism came from these 

475
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,600
Mujahideen fighters who 
originally were engaged in 

476
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,640
resistance actions against the 
Soviet occupation from 1970, 79 

477
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,880
to 89. 
So he admits that this terrorist

478
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,800
issue is a result of empires 
occupying your land and you see 

479
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,160
it as a resistance opportunity. 
This is what Ronald Reagan 

480
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,440
understood, I want to say in 
1983. 

481
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,720
Group that later merged with 
Hezbollah. 

482
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,680
They had killed I believe 213 
Americans in Beirut, in Lebanon.

483
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,920
So according to neo con theory, 
Lebanon is going to take over 

484
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,480
the world if we don't declare 
war on Lebanon. 

485
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,920
Ronald Reagan pulled the troops 
out and no war. 

486
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,400
Followed. 
We're still waiting. 

487
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,320
The yeah, that he sent a bunch 
of Marines in and then he pulled

488
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960
them out. 
And I believe, if I'm not 

489
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,800
getting it wrong, his quote was 
we do not understand the 

490
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,040
irrationality of Middle Eastern 
politics. 

491
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,200
And man, if people had just 
listened to Ronald Reagan on 

492
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,160
that. 
And OK, I know, I know. 

493
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,400
Ronald Reagan also wasn't 
perfect on any of that, but that

494
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,920
was that not the perfect, the 
perfect summation of all of it 

495
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,760
was like, you know what? 
We do not understand what's 

496
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920
going on there. 
And they are not operating on 

497
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,880
the same system that we are. 
So let's just divest. 

498
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Let's just not be a part of 
this. 

499
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Man. 
We would all be so much better 

500
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,760
off if we had heated Ronald 
Reagan's words of advice on that

501
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,560
one. 
And his actions, I want to say 

502
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,960
also in 1983, the Soviets shot 
down the Korean Airlines 007 

503
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520
flight, which had a number of 
Americans, including a sitting 

504
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200
member of Congress. 
And Ronald Reagan did not 

505
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,200
declare war over this. 
I'm told today I got to declare 

506
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,800
war against China because there 
was a balloon in the sky which 

507
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,040
had 0 casualties. 
The Soviets killed a sitting 

508
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,600
member of Congress and a number 
of American civilians on this 

509
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,480
flight. 
Ronald Reagan did not declare 

510
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,080
war and within a decade the 
Soviet Union came crumbling 

511
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,720
down. 
That's because they over 

512
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,080
expanded themselves in a war in 
Afghanistan. 

513
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,120
What empire would do such a 
thing? 

514
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,040
Yeah, really. 
All right, So we've established 

515
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920
that war is the health of the 
state. 

516
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Obviously if there's a war 
breaking out and you're, you 

517
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,720
know, on a whatever your, your, 
you know, whatever your taxes 

518
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,960
are, if a war breaks out, we're 
going to go, hey, we got to 

519
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,880
raise your taxes and you're 
going to say, OK, well, sure, 

520
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,640
our boys are out dying in this 
war. 

521
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,280
I'll pay a little bit more 
taxes. 

522
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:43,480
But for the idea that the state 
is the health of war, let's say 

523
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,400
you have you have an income tax,
you have a central bank where 

524
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760
you can print money. 
Why would you want to start a 

525
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:56,200
new war? 
I'm sorry, are you asking me 

526
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400
this one as a question? 
Why would they want to start a? 

527
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,680
New Why? 
Well, why would a country want 

528
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720
to start a war? 
What would benefit them? 

529
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,360
What benefits them is they're 
able to mobilize the passions of

530
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,720
their population by creating the
external threat that I am here 

531
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,240
to protect you against Xi 
Jinping, against Vladimir Putin,

532
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520
against Kim Jong Un. 
So they eventually have this 

533
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,600
rally round the flag effect 
where people will associate 

534
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,960
sitting politicians with the 
country. 

535
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,560
When hearing the country is 
under threat from foreign 

536
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,520
entities, they will most likely 
rally around that person and 

537
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,600
justify the state taxing more, 
printing more, increasing 

538
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,000
defense obligations. 
The purpose of talking about why

539
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,360
these wars are based on lies is 
to show that these are wars of 

540
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,680
choice. 
That is easily the best 

541
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,240
indicator that states are more 
likely to engage in activities 

542
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,960
which lead to the mass murder. 
You know, of course we're evil 

543
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680
by advocating voluntary 
exchanges between capitalist 

544
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,520
acts, between consenting adults.
But the state mass murder 

545
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,200
programs? 
Well, it's not an incentive 

546
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,320
problem. 
Maybe we just have to elect 

547
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600
better people. 
They never get to the root of 

548
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,960
this issue at all. 
That's why anti war progressives

549
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240
absolutely need to improve and 
basically just concede that 

550
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,880
libertarians have been right 
about their genuine analysis of 

551
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,240
the state. 
So states engage in war because 

552
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,960
they are able to get away with 
things that in a time of peace 

553
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200
they'd be less likely to get 
away with. 

554
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,520
The wars are generally not in 
the interest of the masses, so 

555
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,480
they lie and say that these 
threats are not coming from the 

556
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,040
state that takes 30% of your 
income and claims the right to 

557
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,840
conscript you and indoctrinates 
your kid with the food pyramid 

558
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,840
making them 400 lbs when they're
10. 

559
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,800
No, that's not a threat to you. 
The threat is if Xi Jinping 

560
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,640
controls just this area or this 
area plus this area called 

561
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400
Taiwan. 
So that's why governments do it.

562
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,520
It increases the amount of power
and influence they have. 

563
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,320
There's no market check and 
balance that exists in the 

564
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,080
market where people don't like 
what you're doing. 

565
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
They can voluntarily 
disassociate with you. 

566
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,720
They can stop funding you. 
That doesn't apply to the state.

567
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,400
So they engage in all these wars
for choice, which but where the 

568
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080
costs, even in the best 
examples, don't. 

569
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,680
OK here, here's where we can 
bring Churchill back in. 

570
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,600
He wrote a My point was the 
costs seldom outweigh the 

571
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,120
potential benefits. 
September 1st of 1939, Hitler 

572
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,280
goes to reunite a 95% German 
city, Danzig. 

573
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,160
That's according to Encyclopedia
Britannica. 

574
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:56,320
It was 95% German at the time. 
So he invaded Poland on 

575
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,320
September 3rd. 
Neville Chamberlain, who we're 

576
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,240
told is like this dumb dove who 
never did anything. 

577
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Neville Chamberlain declares war
against National Socialist 

578
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Germany as a result of this 
invasion because they promised 

579
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,600
to give a war guarantee to 
Poland. 

580
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,320
It was not a war guarantee 
because the Soviets invaded on 

581
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,880
September 17th of that year and 
there was no declaration of war 

582
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,280
against the Soviets. 
It was trying to provoke a war 

583
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,040
with Germany. 
So notice the independence of 

584
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,440
Britain is already violated. 
The decision to go to war for 

585
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,800
Britain is now put in the hands 
of Polish colonels. 

586
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,280
That's a violation of 
independence if I have ever seen

587
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,440
one. 
So the war ends and Churchill 

588
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,280
doesn't just thank everyone for 
all the taxes and apologize for 

589
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,639
all the deaths and how we could 
have done this peacefully. 

590
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,120
He says on Page 3, the the 
preface of his first Second 

591
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,920
World War memoir. 
He says the human tragedy 

592
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
reaches its climax in the fact 
that after all the exertions and

593
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,960
sacrifices of hundreds of 
millions of people and the 

594
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,480
victories of the righteous 
'cause we have found neither 

595
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,600
peace or security, and we lie in
the grip of even worse perils 

596
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,160
than those we have surmounted. 
Meaning we declared a war for 

597
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,200
Polish independence. 
You can read the text of 

598
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,800
Chamberlain's Declaration. 
Poland then ends up under Soviet

599
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,600
occupation. 
Churchill brings this up to 

600
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,800
Stalin at the Yalta meeting. 
He says, look, we fought a war 

601
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,880
for Polish independence. 8 
million Poles have been killed 

602
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960
from that favor. 
We were doing them. 

603
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,920
Can we have elections in Poland?
You got to host those to which 

604
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Stalin says, oh, free elections 
like in British occupied Egypt. 

605
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,800
And that was Stalin's response 
to Churchill. 

606
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,320
This is according to a book 
titled Stalin's War by Sean 

607
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Mcmeegan. 
So that was just looking at the 

608
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,800
costs and benefits. 
Not to mention the Soviets 

609
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440
occupied half of Europe on the 
east. 

610
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,280
So that is just looking at 
Churchill, who by the way, 

611
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Churchill was not elected, 
Chamberlain was elected and then

612
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,120
kicked out after the Narvik 
debacle. 

613
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,640
So the fight for democracy had 
unelected Winston Churchill, 

614
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,080
unelected Joseph Stalin and like
20 term President Roosevelt of 

615
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,440
right, Right. 
It was 4 terms. 

616
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,160
So it I'm going to stop there 
and see if you have to comment 

617
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,480
on anything. 
This Churchill myth is so 

618
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,800
deadly. 
People say, oh, he's a hero. 

619
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,960
The modern day Churchill is this
guy. 

620
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,040
So let's just follow him and do 
whatever he does. 

621
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:30,320
Well, it does seem like the idea
of democracy has become the 

622
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,440
modern justification for statism
in general. 

623
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:42,920
And look, I, I think that if you
look at it from kind of a more 

624
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:49,680
broader, you know, reaching 
perspective from pre democratic 

625
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,600
norms up until today, you'll get
a clearer picture of what the 

626
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,640
state really is. 
So you, you know, like today, 

627
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,880
people kind of cling to 
democracy as this thing that 

628
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,400
makes the state legitimate. 
But even like today, you know, 

629
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,520
look Kamala Harris at is she 
where she is because of some 

630
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,760
democratic norm? 
You know, no, I mean, I, I don't

631
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,280
know, the whole Democratic 
primary just on on the side of 

632
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,280
the capital D Democratic Party 
was no, they wouldn't even allow

633
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640
a real, you know, democratic 
process. 

634
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,320
And they just, but then you'll 
hear people today, like 18 

635
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,800
million people voted for, you 
know, Joe Biden, you're like, 

636
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,080
OK, well, I, I thought you told 
me 75 million people voted for 

637
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,000
him. 
OK, whatever. 

638
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,040
But they voted for him. 
Yeah. 

639
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:51,160
Some people within his party 
decided he was too old and they 

640
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,520
kicked him out. 
Seymour Hersh has written a 

641
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000
really interesting piece about 
this lately. 

642
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Is so OK but so democracy has 
nothing to do with. 

643
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,560
But really, you'll recognize 
democracy has nothing to do with

644
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,240
anything. 
This is all just an excuse for 

645
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,480
why it is OK that this 
government rules over you. 

646
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,200
And particularly if you look at 
governments of the past, 

647
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,440
obviously it says that has 
nothing to do with it. 

648
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080
It's just that these were the 
strongest people with the most 

649
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,320
guns and they were able to take 
control of their people. 

650
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,560
That's all it is. 
Democracy is the sales pitch 

651
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,320
that works, and the way they 
really get their sales pitch was

652
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,000
summarized perfectly by Thomas 
Sowell when he said these issues

653
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,280
are seldom, if ever discussed 
empirically or economically or 

654
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,160
on principle. 
What people are looking for are 

655
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,720
people to vilify and hate and 
heroes to admire. 

656
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,000
So that's why the Churchill myth
gets so heavily circulated. 

657
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,360
It was the Churchill cabinet 
which on May 15th of 1940 

658
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,440
initiated the bombing of 
civilians in Germany and the 

659
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Blitz didn't happen until 
September of 1940. 

660
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,360
So this policy was summarized by
a science advisor to the war 

661
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,840
government, Charles Percy Snow. 
He gave a series of lectures at 

662
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,240
Harvard called Science and 
Government. 

663
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,440
And here's how Snow summarized 
the paper. 

664
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,720
The paper on bombing went out to
top government official 

665
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:22,280
scientists. 
It described in quantitative 

666
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,960
terms the effect on Germany of a
British bombing offensive in the

667
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,000
next 18 months. 
The paper laid down strategic 

668
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200
policy. 
The bombing must be directed 

669
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,880
essentially against German 
working class houses. 

670
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,480
Middle class houses have too 
much space around them and so 

671
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,360
are bound to waste bombs. 
Factories and military 

672
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,800
objectives had long since been 
forgotten except in official 

673
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,280
bulletins since they were much 
too difficult to find. 

674
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,920
The paper claim that given a 
total concentration of effort on

675
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,280
the production and use of 
bombing aircraft, it would be 

676
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,720
possible in larger towns of 
Germany, those with 50,000 

677
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,360
inhabitants, to destroy 50% of 
all houses. 

678
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,280
These are the fighters for 
democracy. 

679
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,520
They are so worried that you 
won't get a one in 10 million 

680
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,640
vote to determine which. 
Fire sits on the throne next, 

681
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,800
constantly justifying mass 
murder. 

682
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120
This is the actions of the 
heroes of democracy. 

683
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,160
I'm not even pointing to well, 
Napoleon did well, actually, 

684
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,240
Napoleon was after the French 
Revolution for liberty, 

685
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,680
equality, and fraternity. 
So whoever they think the 

686
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,440
villains are, are, let's just 
say, villainous. 

687
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,520
The heroes of democracy are 
constantly engaging in the most 

688
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,440
evil crimes. 
There's a book titled The 

689
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,320
Complete War Memoirs of Charles 
de Gaulle where he actually says

690
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,720
that Winston Churchill one night
was shaking his first at the sky

691
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,520
saying why won't they come? 
De Gaulle looks at Churchill and

692
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,280
says are you really? 
Are you not having any patience 

693
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,880
to see your cities get 
destroyed? 

694
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
To which Churchill responds, 
according to Charles de Gaulle. 

695
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,520
You don't get it. 
Once the Americans see Oxford 

696
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,080
and Coventry getting bombed, 
they'll have to come in. 

697
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,320
The state will even justify the 
mass murder of its own civilian 

698
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,840
population, which it pledges 
allegiance to defend. 

699
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,280
They will justify them getting 
killed. 

700
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,120
The case is with Pearl Harbor. 
The case is with the British 

701
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
getting bombed. 
Churchill even authorized 

702
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,240
Operation Catapult, which was 
killing 1200 French servicemen. 

703
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,760
And and his justification at the
International Churchill Society 

704
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,520
is, well, if we didn't kill him,
those Subs might have gotten in 

705
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,000
German hands. 
So these are the crimes that 

706
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,240
people will justify engaging in 
when they have a legal monopoly 

707
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,120
on printing money, conscripting 
people, and they control the 

708
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,640
education system, which is how 
they're able to hide these 

709
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,400
things for so long. 
Yeah. 

710
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,840
And doesn't. 
Isn't that something that people

711
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,280
should keep in mind today when 
our, our ruling elite are 

712
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,600
advocating for more escalations 
in the war in Ukraine, more 

713
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,640
escalations for the war in Gaza?
You know, that like, I feel like

714
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,120
there's a a sense amongst 
Americans that like, yeah, but 

715
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,640
we're doing this to make sure 
that our people don't ever have 

716
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,360
to die. 
It's like, Nah, I don't think 

717
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,000
that's actually true. 
Oh of course it provokes a war 

718
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,240
which makes it more likely. 
And so if you look at the cases 

719
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:23,880
of the First World War, Germany 
gives Austria a blank check to 

720
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,000
declare war on Serbia and fight 
the Russians. 

721
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,040
And this favor to Austria was so
nice of them led to the death of

722
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,920
1.1 million Austrians. 
Sir Edward Gray in 19 O 5 

723
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,240
pledged a war guarantee to 
France against Germany. 

724
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,280
So they did them a very nice 
favor. 

725
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Those French First World War 
against Germany led to 1.3 

726
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,800
million French deaths. 
They have to pay the price. 

727
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,200
So when you're not being Mr. 
Nice Guy, when you say we're 

728
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,800
going to give a war guarantee to
Ukraine, we're going to give a 

729
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,560
war guarantee to Taiwan, that 
makes you nothing but a 

730
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,800
psychopathic prick because we 
have historical references to 

731
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960
see what actually happens in 
these cases. 

732
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,040
That in no way makes you the 
good guy to just issue war 

733
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,400
guarantees and put the 
obligation to offend people. 

734
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,760
The the obligation is put on all
Americans to defend who sits on 

735
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,760
the throne in Kiev or in Taipei 
or in Tehran. 

736
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,160
This psychopathic amount of just
comfort with putting massive 

737
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,160
deadly obligations on people. 
It would just never occur to me 

738
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,160
to say, Dave, I hate the current
governor of my state, so you're 

739
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,520
going to battle, buddy Dave? 
My, my independence is being 

740
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,280
violated by the current 
politician who needs to rule me.

741
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,720
Your kids got to get drafted, 
Your towns might have to get 

742
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:46,160
bombed, but my independence is 
being violated. 

743
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,320
It's completely sick. 
Yeah. 

744
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,480
So, OK. 
So given the current situation 

745
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,640
that we have where we have a 
pretty dangerous war brewing in 

746
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:04,360
Ukraine and a pretty dangerous 
war brewing in the Israel Gaza 

747
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:10,080
situation, what would you say is
a what's a sane policy given all

748
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,280
of this theory, what's a sane 
policy to have going forward? 

749
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,360
So let me first quote a another 
book that I would recommend 

750
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,920
reading. 
It's called A Promised Land by 

751
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Barack Obama. 
So to understand maybe all of 

752
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,800
the examples I'm using are 
historical 'cause I have no 

753
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,160
examples in the present of this.
Here is Obama stating the nature

754
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,520
of Vladimir Putin's gripe with 
America, the US. 

755
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,000
This is on page 464. 
The US decision 7 earlier seven 

756
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,120
years earlier to pull out of the
Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty 

757
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,160
and its plans to house missile 
defense systems on Russia's 

758
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,760
border continue to be a source 
of strategic instability. 

759
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,600
The admission of former Warsaw 
Pact countries into NATO during 

760
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,600
both Clinton and Bush 
administrations had steadily 

761
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,480
encroached on Russia's sphere of
influence, while US support for 

762
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,880
the color revolutions in 
Georgia, Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan 

763
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,920
under the specious guise of 
democracy promotion had turned 

764
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,320
Russia's once friendly neighbors
into governments hostile to 

765
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,000
Moscow. 
So in other words, according to 

766
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,400
the former president, Russia's 
gripe is not, well, we're taking

767
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,880
over Hitler's failed plan to 
take over the world. 

768
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,680
According to twice elected 
president, those are Putin's 

769
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,880
gripes. 
NATO expansion, color 

770
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,640
revolutions and getting out of 
now Open skies as well, but 

771
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,720
previously the Anti ballistic 
missile treaty. 

772
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:42,000
So looking at history, what I 
think we should advocate for the

773
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,680
present is constant negotiation.
This is Robert McNamara's first 

774
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,160
lesson in the fog of war. 
Empathize with your enemy. 

775
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,600
The examples that you can look 
to are Nikita Khrushchev earned 

776
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:59,760
the title The Butcher of 
Budapest in 1956, and in 1959 he

777
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,600
was at the White House shaking 
hands with General Eisenhower. 

778
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,120
In 1962, Kennedy and Khrushchev 
were sending letters when the 

779
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Soviets had I think 90 nukes in 
Cuba, which Castro apparently 

780
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,320
told Khrushchev that he wanted 
to use. 

781
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,080
But through the process of 
talking, the amount of empathy 

782
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,480
between the parties increase and
they were able to deescalate the

783
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,600
situation. 
Basically, Castro ordered these 

784
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,200
armaments as a result of 
Operation Mongoose, the CIA's 

785
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,240
attempt to assassinate Castro. 
You can read about all their 

786
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:38,160
assassination theories before 
they ever went into practice in 

787
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,600
a 1953 document titled A Study 
in Assassination, which they 

788
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,080
used in 1954 when they 
assassinated officials in 

789
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,240
Guatemala. 
So more talking, more empathy, 

790
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,480
more Donald Trump shaking hands 
with Kim Jong Un. 

791
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,840
I mean, literally, I am told 
that we can have a formal 

792
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,160
alliance with Joseph Stalin, 
have the Alta Conference, but we

793
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040
can't talk to Vladimir Putin. 
Putin, did you know he's a bad 

794
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,480
guy? 
He did bad things in Ukraine. 

795
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,920
I have. 
I've heard that. 

796
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,480
The Holodomor took place in the 
30s. 

797
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,440
After that there was a formal 
alliance with Joseph Stalin to 

798
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,200
give him half of Eastern Europe.
But you know, can't, can't talk 

799
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,560
to Putin in 19, I want to say 
64. 

800
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,040
The Chinese Communist Party had 
Project 596, which was their 

801
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,840
capability display of showing 
that they had nuclear weapons. 

802
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,200
So Nixon or LBJ and then Nixon 
could have said, well, we're 

803
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,840
going to have to go to war with 
China. 

804
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,480
It's just too powerful. 
Instead, within a decade, 

805
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:41,280
Kissinger and Nixon are shaking 
hands with Chairman Mao, but 

806
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,960
can't talk to Xi Jinping. 
XI Jinping's a bad guy. 

807
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,840
They have, they have two 
positions. 

808
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,080
They say, well, if China invades
Taiwan, then we might lose 

809
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,240
access to our semiconductors. 
But on the economic realm they 

810
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,520
go the problem with China's we 
trade too much. 

811
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,360
Well then wouldn't we just keep 
trading even if they did take 

812
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,240
over Taiwan? 
Can't these things just be built

813
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,800
in America? 
A real tough on China policy is 

814
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,240
decriminalize all capitalist 
acts between consenting adults 

815
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,800
to drastically make America the 
only superpower. 

816
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,400
Because that's how an economy 
grows with more social 

817
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,000
cooperation, less barriers to 
trade and more innovation. 

818
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,760
So that is the lesson that we 
can have for today. 

819
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,400
More talking, more empathy, less
vilification of large 

820
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,080
populations. 
I think Donald Trump the other 

821
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,440
day said, well, if it was Iran 
who tried to Take Me Out, we 

822
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,680
might have to wipe them off the 
map. 

823
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Well, if he assassinates 
Soleimani and their response is 

824
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,600
to assassinate one person, 
Trump's responses to murder 

825
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,240
potentially 80 million Iranians.
Which group is the uncivilized 1

826
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:53,880
here? 
Or, or, or just that's right or 

827
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,320
just. 
Let's say hypothetically. 

828
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,280
Let's say hypothetically that it
wasn't Iran who is trying to 

829
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,080
take Trump out. 
Let's say it was America. 

830
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,760
Let's say it was people in the 
United States of America who are

831
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,280
trying to take Trump out. 
Would any of us accept that 

832
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,880
therefore we have to kill 10s of
millions of Americans? 

833
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,520
No, of course not. 
Because we we would all 

834
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,200
recognize, no, it's not it. 
It's not innocent men, women and

835
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,960
children here. 
It's bad guys here. 

836
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,640
So we have to take out the bad 
guys, right? 

837
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,240
Like whether that's here or over
there. 

838
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,720
And by the way, with the Trump 
assassination, I think it's 

839
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:43,920
here. 
So let's let's say we it, it 

840
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,080
still doesn't justify you're 
just killing innocent people 

841
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,880
anywhere. 
Doesn't matter. 

842
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,920
Yep, thou shalt not murder. 
You don't even have to say well,

843
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,640
I've been wrong, Dave Smith. 
Libertarians have been right. 

844
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,760
They say the Bible. 
You know what the? 

845
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,320
Bible has been right. 
I was going to justify this next

846
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,040
mass murder campaign. 
I reread the 10 commandments. 

847
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,920
You're not going to fucking 
believe what's in there, dude. 

848
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,120
We're not allowed. 
It's one of the top ones thou 

849
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,120
not murder. 
For progress, we're not allowed.

850
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,320
To for progressives who advocate
equality the most unequal OK, if

851
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,440
one person pays another a low 
wage, OK, that's unequal. 

852
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,080
If one person murders another, 
that's the ultimate 

853
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,320
exploitation, the ultimate 
inequality. 

854
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,800
That's why the left needs to be 
with us on this issue. 

855
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,040
That's why the pro-life people 
on the right also need to be 

856
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,400
with us on this issue as well. 
Other examples of the fucking 

857
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,080
state in America allying with 
tyrants. 

858
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Mohammed bin Salman, the butcher
of Yemen. 

859
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:48,000
They allied with Javad al Nusra,
al Qaeda in Syria to take on 

860
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,800
Assad. 
It's just so sick that there's 

861
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,960
so many examples. 
I could probably come up with a 

862
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,120
lot more. 
But yeah, Antonio Salazar 

863
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,640
running Portugal, he was a 
member of NATO. 

864
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,240
You have the regime of colonels 
in Greece when Greece was a 

865
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,320
member of NATO. 
NATO has nothing to do with 

866
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,120
democracy. 
Szalinski didn't hold his March 

867
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,320
31st election of this year. 
This is after he bombed a NATO 

868
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,440
ally on November 15th of 2022. 
This is the defender of 

869
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,560
democracy. 
Doesn't allow men ages 18 to 60 

870
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,200
to leave, enslaves them in a war
just so Yanukovych doesn't get 

871
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,640
on the throne. 
That's the other thing they do. 

872
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,080
This is the purpose of the war. 
Deception, according to historic

873
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,600
Arthur Ponsenby, he says, look, 
all the wars are based on lies. 

874
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Now why is that? 
The reason is that we see wars 

875
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,200
from all these different 
countries through long spans of 

876
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,280
time. 
You might look at it and say is 

877
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,720
there like, is it literally just
the Rothschilds running 

878
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,760
everything it because it seems 
they're always lying us into 

879
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000
these wars. 
He says there's a very simple 

880
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,240
explanation. 
To go to war, you have to be 

881
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,840
asking millions of people to get
their limbs blown off, to get 

882
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,400
their sons to die. 
And you can't sell that by 

883
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,280
saying, look, Dave, I'm I'm 
going to be conscripting your 

884
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,440
kids and I'm going to be taking 
30% of your income until my war 

885
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,720
is over. 
But we'll be able to make sure 

886
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,320
it's not Yanukovych on the 
throne in Kiev, it's Solinsky. 

887
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,160
That's not going to rile people 
up. 

888
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,600
You have to stay. 
Putin is days away from taking 

889
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,000
the entire planet Earth over. 
He's going to engage in mass 

890
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,600
enslavement. 
Then it's going to be mass 

891
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,600
murder. 
And then he won't have a climate

892
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,080
change policy. 
And then the world will 

893
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,400
literally end. 
That's what they have to do 

894
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,840
every single time. 
That's why all the wars are 

895
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,520
based on lies, because people 
would not be willing to engage 

896
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,360
in this huge burden, this huge 
cost if they weren't scared 

897
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,080
shitless out of their minds. 
For no, for no reason at all. 

898
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,320
Now, that's exactly right, man, 
and that's why they have to keep

899
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,920
scaring us with absolute 
bullshit. 

900
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,960
All right, Keith, it's always a 
pleasure to talk to you, man. 

901
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,600
Thank you so much for coming on.
Let everybody know where can 

902
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,880
they find your stuff. 
I got to plug one other thing 

903
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,680
while I'm here, of course. 
Go ahead. 

904
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,720
For those of you who didn't see 
me the first time I was on 

905
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:12,080
Dave's show, I was 110 lbs 
heavier because I was. 

906
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:13,680
That is. 
True. 

907
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,040
So it looked like there was like
me and an elephant on the 

908
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,040
fucking screen. 
So the carnivore diet is 

909
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,000
something I think everyone 
should look into. 

910
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,880
So a lot of this talk about 
well, I think the Federal 

911
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480
Reserve should do this and you 
know, the State Department 

912
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,120
should do do all these things. 
Well, those things are really 

913
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,760
hard to change. 
The best thing that I have done 

914
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,240
in my recent life was do this 
carnivore diet. 

915
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,760
The vast numbers of Americans 
are heavily overweight. 

916
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,760
The carnivore diet and avoiding 
carbs is the best thing you can 

917
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,280
do today to improve your life. 
I'm not plugging a company or 

918
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,960
anything. 
It's just a meat and cheese 

919
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,720
diet. 
So I just had to get that out 

920
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,000
because I'm. 
So I want to sue. 

921
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,800
I want to sue every one of these
goddamn teachers who sold me 

922
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,960
that food pyramid. 
Every one of these motherfucking

923
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,600
doctors just completed just 
committed fraud and said maybe 

924
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,360
try smaller portions. 
Fucking assholes. 

925
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,640
So I have to talk about that. 
Other than that, check out 

926
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,000
Libertarian institute.org. 
You can look at my book Domestic

927
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,320
Imperialism, 9 Reasons I Left 
Progressive Progressivism. 

928
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,760
There was a free PDF on our 
website of that, as well as my 

929
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,880
previous publication The 
Voluntarist Handbook. 48 essays 

930
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,560
and books that I read which turn
me from being a progressive into

931
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,400
a libertarian. 
So those resources are free. 

932
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,440
I really hope people will go to 
libertarianinstitute.org org 

933
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,520
slash donate to help us really 
make this information accessible

934
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,920
to as many people as possible. 
And this speech that we talked 

935
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,360
about today is also on the 
institute in video form. 

936
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,400
I'm working on a transcript. 
We we will put it in the episode

937
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,080
of description. 
Keith, thank you so much. 

938
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,440
You're literally you're, you're 
a gem dude, and it's always a 

939
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,040
pleasure to talk to. 
You. 

940
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,360
Thank you so much for having me,
Dave. 

941
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Take care buddy. 
Alright, you're the man Keith, 

942
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,240
and thanks everyone for 
listening. 

943
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:07,880
Catch you next time. 
Peace.