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I'm here in Washington, d.c. 
To interview. 

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A man who until very recently 
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Chief, the head of the defense 
intelligence agency, the DIA and

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before that a commander with 
jsoc do you'll eat military unit

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which helps run President 
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Many people would argue that the
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Actually saw the rise of isil 
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or even encouraged it as a 
Counterpoint to Assad and a 

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secret analysis by the agency. 
You ran, the defense 

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intelligence agency in August 
2012 said, And I quote there is 

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the possibility of establishing 
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salafist. 
If not secret anymore was 

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released under foia. 
I that quote is there is a 

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possibility of establishing a 
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principality in eastern Syria. 
And this is exactly what the 

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supporting powers to the 
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Want in order to isolate the 
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The u.s. 
Saw the isil caliphate coming 

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and did nothing. 
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I think there were we where we 
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I mean, where we totally blew 
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I think was in the very 
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I mean, we're talking for years 
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Most people won't even remember.
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movement. 
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Al-nusra? 
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And what, how much have they 
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and help somebody? 
They're going to find. 

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Other means to achieve their 
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And I think right now what we 
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will have all these extremists, 
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militants to commend. 
Why did you allow them to do 

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that? 
General your room? 

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In 2012, was this come across 
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When our yeah, I paid very close
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Okay. 
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did you not pick up a phone and 
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doing? 
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information is presented. 
And what did you guys become 

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those? 
Become, I argued about it. 

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Did you say we shouldn't be 
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I did. 
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the different groups that were 
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is it? 
That is involved here. 

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And I will tell you that, I do 
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That the the intelligence was 
very clear. 

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And now it's a matter of whether
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clear and as defining it as 
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And I don't believe it was just 
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Just to clarify here, you're 

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saying today today. 
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saying we should have backed the
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government. 
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done more earlier on, in this 
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but in truly 12, In 2012, which 
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three years ago. 
Let's just be clear drying, the 

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sake of our viewers in 2012. 
Your agency was saying, quote, 

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the salafists, the Muslim 
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Iraq. 
Are the major forces driving the

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Insurgency in Syria in 2012. 
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arms transfers to those same 
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Why did you not stop that? 
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of quote unquote, having a 
dream. 

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I hate to say, it's not my job 
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that the that the accuracy of 
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Since that was being presented, 
was, was as good as it could be.

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And I will tell you it goes 
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I mean, when we were, when we 
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decisions to be made before, 
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of Iraq in 2011. 
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we, what we were going to face. 
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that we were going to pay me. 
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move on, just to clarify. 
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saying that even in government 
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groups were around. 
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were arguing against it, but who
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I think I think hit 
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The administration turned a 
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they turned a blind eye. 
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I think it was a willful 
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go supported Insurgency that had
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It was all Brothers Vision to do
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you have to really have to 
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What is it that he actually is 
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that is in place because it is 
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I'm sitting here today Medi and 
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exactly what that is, and I've 
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taking the time with us. 
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Defense, authorization, act into
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statement at that time. 
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power for indefinite. 
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those Powers because it's 
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order the injunction in 
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American people safe. 
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in a way that respects our 
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rule of law. 
That's why I ban torture. 

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Guantanamo. 
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got some bad guys who are down 
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try in a traditional court, but 
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Americans and So that's 
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we're dealing with and it's 
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What I also said was a US 
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that kind of detention Congress 
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want us to not be able to 
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soldiers and our troops. 
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also said was look that I'm 
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with us. 
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something that you can use when 
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kill list that's gotten a lot of
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And this this list of folks who 
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assassination and on that list 
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not been afforded trial, 
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How do you as president or any 
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regardless of party or person 
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assassinate even US citizens? 
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basing this on reports in the 
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confirmed. 
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national security decisions. 
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Qaeda to focus narrowly on those
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al-Qaeda leadership has been 
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part of what has allowed us to. 
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international law. 
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but beyond that I probably can't
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as what you just mentioned. 
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mentioned about Al-Qaeda during 
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in Afghanistan, certainly going 
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And yet, there's some concern 
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Funding, the Syrian opposition. 
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that Al-Qaeda is kind of heading
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so what we've done is to say we 
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assistance to Syrian opposition 
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a political transition committed
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and get involved with a civil 
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elements of people who Daniel, 
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also involve some folks, who 
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United States harm. 
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but this is an example of a 
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tried to implement that is 
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That applies common sense that 
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to do, is selectively say, what 
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protect us, persons, u.s. 
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world. 
And how can we help those forces

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that care about human rights? 
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democracy. 
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serious, a more complicated 
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work with the International 
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about Assad leaving. 
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peaceful resolution to the 
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speech as well about And yet, 
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troops, we're talking about at 
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these, these Afghan soldiers and
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Is it worth it for us to retain 

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American lives there. 
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We're not playing to stay 
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This war will be over in 2014. 
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with Afghans just as we partner.
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all around the world, the recent
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green-on-blue attacks where 
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police or military uniforms and 
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that's deeply troubling. 
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spending a lot of time on. 
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That what we're seeing is 
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forces. 
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very interested in us training 
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many that I've got with the 
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Governor. 
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what exactly is plans are. 
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criticized me about ending the 
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I think the American people 
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of War, our soldiers, Sailors, 
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Airmen Coast Guardsmen and their
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sacrifices. 
They've carried an enormous 

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not only on going after, Al 
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attack us, but we've also got to
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Hang on war to help rebuild, 
Ohio help, rebuild the United 

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And I think the choice in this 
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going to come down to, who's 
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to strengthen our economy and 
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taking it on the chin for over a
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And I'm confident that the plan 
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going to be a better plan. 
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Okay. 
So, you know, this is one of the

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ones that they call leading from
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it's I saw someone the other 
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Was arguing that America didn't 
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That was the French and the 
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that's just not true. 
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were waiting on Obama to give 
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And Obama was the one who gave 
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And in fact, just in his speech 
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Brazil. 
He said okay, we're going to war

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everybody and then he relied on 
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A Preposterous lie that Qaddafi 
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murder every last. 
Man woman and child in the city 

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of Benghazi, if we didn't get in
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And that would be the equivalent
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last man woman and child in the 
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That's, you know, that was a 
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in Charlotte North Carolina. 
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start to war. 
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it was all American planes, air 
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all of the original shock and 
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Special Operations forces on the
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through the war and that is who 
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And, you know, I'll encourage 
your audience because it's a 

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hoot to go and watch Michael 
Shaw. 

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Sure that's sche yu-er. 
Go type in Michael scheuer CNN, 

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Libya, and you'll see Michael 
shore, on CNN, and he gets in a 

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fight with the to Anchor, 
ladies. 

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Because he's saying, Look, the 
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Qaddafi right now, in any other 
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mujahideen. 
That's who they are. 

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These are the guys who are the 
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War two. 
They just got back from Iraq, 

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where they were fighting with 
zarqawi. 

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They were the worst part of part
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base Insurgency that the 
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war two. 
And now they've come home to 

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Livia, and they've set their 
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And the The CNN lady says, oh, 
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Mr. CIA officer. 
You must not know what you're 

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talking about. 
Because when the CIA officers be

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vetting these guys and sure he 
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Sure. 
The the CIA is vetting. 

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The guys that come to be vetted 
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But everybody else isn't talking
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They're just going to be taking 
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situation and they're going to 
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the the CNN ladies like well, We
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because we don't want to because
this is an American war and it's

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great and shorts like yeah. 
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carrying water for mr. 
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the truth that what we're doing 
is, we're taking the side of our

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enemies in this thing. 
And they're like, oh sure. 

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Yeah, right. 
Like we would carry water for 

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Barack Obama. 
I think we you've had your say, 

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mr. 
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You have a nice day now and they
hang up on them. 

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And that was probably the last 
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And then what happened? 
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It was Al Qaeda in Iraq. 
It was the Libyan Veterans of 

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al-Qaeda and Iraq. 
They had been, you know, the, 

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the British MI6 and helped 
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fighting group in the first 
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kill, Qaddafi, back in 2000. 
Then they became the bad guys 

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again for a little while. 
And then in Iraq war to then 

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when they came home from Iraq 
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Oh, yeah, it's our old friends 
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group. 
We're not going to call them aqi

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anymore. 
Now, we're going to call them 

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LIF. 
G and ansar al-sharia. 

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And these are moderate Rebels 
and everything will be fine. 

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And then and this included a guy
named huh? 

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CD. 
Who told the telegraph? 

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Yeah. 
I'm a veteran of Iraq. 

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War to where I killed Americans.
What of it? 

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Okay, I guess nothing, no 
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Go ahead. 
And then this guy Abdul Hakim, 

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El hadj had been abducted by the
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in Thailand for being an 
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had been rendered back to Libya,
where Qaddafi had him in prison,

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but Qaddafi, let him go because 
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the International Community. 
Was you got to let all your 

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mujahideen out of prison. 
And so he gave in to that demand

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and let this guy and There's 
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This guy ended up after Obama 
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He sued. 
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There's no such thing as 
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America. 
So that went nowhere, but in 

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Britain, he actually sued and 
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At least through like a couple 
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He sued to MI6 for kidnapping 
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British courts. 
Let the case go through. 

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I don't know if he finally won 
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is part of Of the story of what 
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In 2012, September 11 2012. 
The American ambassador to Libya

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was killed. 
Well, first of all, it took nine

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months for the mujahideen and 
American and Allied air power to

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win the war, and then Qaddafi 
was hunted down and raped with a

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Bayonet and then shot in the 
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the road, and then approximately
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Stevens and some others at the 
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work. 
Old. 

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Well, first question, why 
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What were they doing in 
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And of course, the answer is, 
this was Hillary Clinton's bank 

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shot, as the New York Times 
reported it. 

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Her bank shot to take all the 
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from Libya and start funneling 
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regime change in favor of 
al-Qaeda, against another 

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secular socialist dictator. 
And so that's why they were in 

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Benghazi, is They were running 
guns and terrorists off to Syria

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the qataris were, you know, 
mostly, you know, running the 

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thing but the CIA was overseeing
the whole thing and and 

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Ambassador was helping to 
coordinate it. 

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Well, guess what? 
Just because you love Al Qaeda. 

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Don't mean that they love you 
now and so just because these 

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guys saw tone. 
Good. 

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It's the Reagan years again, and
we K or the Bill Clinton years. 

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We can go back to back in these 
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Well, they still hate your guts.
And what happened was Obama and 

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the CIA had done a drone strike 
in in Pakistan, that had killed 

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a guy named shaykh Yahya Libby. 
Now, you might recognize the 

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name. 
I'll Libby because shaykh Yahya 

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Libby's brother. 
I forgot his first name now, off

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the top of my head, but his 
brother had been the guy that 

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Dick Cheney and the CIA and the 
Egyptians tortured into Pointing

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the finger at Saddam Hussein 
back in 2002. 

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Oh, yeah, Saddam Hussein. 
He taught us Al-Qaeda guys, how 

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to make chemical weapons, and 
how to hijack airplanes and all 

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this. 
And in fact, the CIA themselves.

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We know now the CIA debunked 
this and so we don't believe him

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because we hired the Egyptians 
to torture, it out of them. 

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And so this is not really 
reliable data, but don't worry 

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colon Powell used it in his UN 
speech to lie us in a war 

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anyway, but then in 2012 in July
of Thousand twelve CIA killed, 

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his brother Yaya Libby, in a 
drone, strike in Pakistan. 

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And right after that. 
I'm an Alzheimer or like a month

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later, something Ayman. 
Al-zawahiri, because Bin Laden 

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was dead by then, Zoe here. 
He put out a podcast saying, 

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okay. 
It's time to avenge our great 

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Libyan friend. 
Shaykh. 

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Yahya al-libi who was murdered 
by the Americans. 

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Hey, friendly Libyan mujahideen.
I hear that you guys have some 

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Americans in your midst who 
think that they're so clever 

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that they're using you and 
Syria. 

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Well, now's your chance and hey,
the anniversary of September 

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11th is coming up. 
And so then what happened on 

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September 11th, and sorry, 
al-sharia attacked and killed 

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the American ambassador and, you
know, some of his handlers and a

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couple of CIA guys to who were 
at the house down the road. 

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And so then this is a great 
story because it's the 

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definition of the modified 
limited hangout, right? 

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So first of all, a limited hang 
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And that phrase was, I believe, 
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himself, in discussions with 
ehrlichman and Haldeman. 

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His right-hand men. 
A so a limited hangout is like 

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when a kid admits that he did 
something wrong because he's 

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trying to prevent you from 
finding out what he really did. 

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That was really that bad. 
So he confesses halfway and 

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government. 
Does that a lot? 

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Right? 
So they said, well, you know, 

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you know, the problem here was 
that we didn't have enough 

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security and so our guy got 
killed and yeah, okay, but then 

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here's the modified. 
Let it hang out. 

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The modified limited hangout is 
when you lie about your limited 

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hangout and so ago. 
Yeah, you know what it was. 

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It was a big protest over this 
video on YouTube that got out of

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hand and turn into a riot, and 
that's what killed the guys. 

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So, now you're telling a half 
story and you're lying about the

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half a story to. 
So, everybody gets all caught up

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fighting over whether this 
YouTube video, the innocence of 

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Muslims had caused the riot or 
not and they get all caught up 

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over. 
How much security should have 

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been there or not? 
And then only 1% of people are 

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asking the question. 
Why are these guys in Benghazi? 

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And Tripoli? 
Yeah, what was even going on 

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there at all? 
Know you were working with the 

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qataris to funnel. 
A bunch of al-Qaeda. 

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Terrorists off to Syria and you 
had station your Ambassador in 

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the middle of a hornet's nest, 
and now you're surprised that he

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got stunk. 
Right. 

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So that's the real truth. 
But the modified limited hangout

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ended up and look, you know, the
way they use the word gate after

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every Scandal, you know, like 
Watergate, but now it's like 

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Lewinsky gate and whatever gate.
Right? 

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Well now Ghazi has become kind 
of a joke like gate only. 

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This is when it's a fake Scandal
because the Republicans spent 

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years holding all these 
hearings. 

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Remember, Trey Gaudi, and all 
these guys holding all these 

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Earrings about well, was it 
really a riot over the over the 

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video or not and how much 
security was there or not? 

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And the Democrats saw this to be
essentially just completely 

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trumped up Scandal, a fake 
Scandal meant to just hurt 

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Obama, even though it was simply
a matter of bad things happen 

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sometimes, or something like 
that. 

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So, now whenever there's a fake 
Scandal, they'll add Ghazi on 

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the end. 
And in fact, I've even see like 

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left Wingers who are good. 
On Russia gate because they're 

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not Democrats there to left for 
the Democrats. 

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And so they'll call it Russia 
Ghazi. 

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Oh, yeah, Russia Ghazi and 
that's means of fake Scandal 

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that's built out of nothing. 
But of course that comes from 

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how fake the modified limited 
hangout was not how fake the 

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real Scandal behind the death of
the Ambassador and the entire 

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operation that was going on in 
Benghazi. 

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And by the way, what if they 
told the truth at that time? 

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Or what if the truth had come 
out and they hadn't been able to

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suppress it. 
Well, then maybe just maybe the 

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the pressure for the 
intervention in Syria would have

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been lessened. 
And the argument on behalf of 

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staying out of Syria would have 
been strengthened that look from

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the beginning. 
These guys aren't moderates if 

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they're so moderate. 
How come they killed our 

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ambassador in Libya. 
They never were moderates. 

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Their Al-Qaeda, guys. 
They always were and there were 

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Different armed, factions that 
rose up. 

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But within the first year of the
war in Syria, the entire 

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opposition was dominated by Al 
Qaeda in Iraq who had come 

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across the border from Iraq, 
they'd been almost entirely 

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eliminated by the Iraqi sunnis 
and then Obama came and 

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resuscitated them right back to 
life and gave them a whole new 

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Battle Ground to fight in. 
And then allied with turkey, 

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Israel, Saudi and Qatar, 
billions and billions of dollars

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in Cold Hard Cash. 
And weapons to fight that war 

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that ended up lasting for five 
years and grew into the actual 

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Islamic State. 
The islamofascist caliphate of 

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George, Bush's, ridiculous 
propaganda and Osama. 

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00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:56,800
Bin Laden's. 
Wildest Dreams actually did come

453
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,600
true because Obama backed them 
in Syria and to such a degree 

454
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:05,500
that they ended up strong enough
that they were able to conquer 

455
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:09,400
all of Western Iraq. 
And, and Eastern Syria, and 

456
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,400
Western Iraq, which Acetate. 
And then Iraq war three that 

457
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,600
Obama launched in August of 2014
and lasted through the end of 

458
00:24:16,608 --> 00:24:19,700
2017 there to destroy the 
Islamic State. 

459
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,700
So who was the u.s. 
Backing in Syria in operation 

460
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:30,200
Timber Sycamore? 
Well, so it's beyond Timber, 

461
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,400
Sycamore Timber. 
Sycamore was just one part of 

462
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,600
it, but overall, they were, I 
don't know if they ever directly

463
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,700
backed the al-nusra front there,
but they didn't. 

464
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,100
To all they needed was the 
slightest deniability, you know,

465
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,100
the so-called moderate Rebel 
groups, like The al-farouq 

466
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:52,600
Breguet, the hazem Brigade, the 
newer Al's Inky and these other 

467
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,800
groups, the CIA would give the 
weapons in the money to them and

468
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,900
then they would turn it right 
over to the al-nusra front. 

469
00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:02,400
They would come and train with 
the Americans in Jordan and in 

470
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,400
Turkey, they get their weapons, 
their training, their money, and

471
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,000
then they turn right around and 
go and join the ranks of the 

472
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,800
al-nusra front and the al-nusra 
front. 

473
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,900
A front is nothing but the 
Syrian faction the Syrian 

474
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,300
dominated faction of al-Qaeda in
Iraq from Iraq, war two. 

475
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,200
And so, then the split between 
Isis and al-nusra came in 2013, 

476
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:27,500
when the leader of Isis decided,
Well, Bin Laden's dead. 

477
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,400
And so he might have done what 
Bin Laden said but whose Ayman 

478
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,100
al-zawahiri anyway, and and you 
know, why should I listen to 

479
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,500
him? 
And so I hurried was the guy who

480
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,700
said we have to attack the 
United States first. 

481
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,600
We have to get rid of the far 
enemy first. 

482
00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:46,500
Ballgame down, bleed them to 
bankruptcy like the Soviets, 

483
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:49,500
force them out of the region. 
Only then can we try to create 

484
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,500
our islamofascist caliphate? 
Because otherwise, the Americans

485
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,300
will come and bomb it off the 
face of the Earth again. 

486
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:58,700
And so baghdady said, well, nuts
to you. 

487
00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:02,200
I want my caliphate now and I 
don't want to wait, you know, 

488
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,600
they had renamed al-Qaeda in 
Iraq. 

489
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,100
They had renamed it, the Islamic
State of Iraq, back in 2006, 

490
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,400
which at the time was kind of a 
joke because they had no ability

491
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,200
to create. 
I ate a state anywhere at all, 

492
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,800
but it also showed you where 
their head was at, and what it 

493
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,600
was that they wanted out of all 
of this. 

494
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:24,400
And so, by 2013, essentially, in
the spring of 2013, the Iraqi 

495
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,500
dominated faction of al-Qaeda in
Iraq, split off from the Syrian 

496
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:31,600
dominated faction of al-Qaeda in
Iraq, which is known as Al 

497
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,300
nusra, and started going by 
their old name. 

498
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:36,000
Again, the Islamic State of 
Iraq. 

499
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,100
Now, they added and Syria or, 
and the Levant and All right 

500
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:45,900
here he sent an emissary to come
and negotiate to keep Isis in 

501
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,000
the al-Qaeda group and back, 
Daddy killed the Emissary and 

502
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,100
said to Zola, Harry you made 
your law. 

503
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,000
Let's see you enforce it, right?
Like Andrew Jackson and the 

504
00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,700
Supreme Court on a Trail of 
Tears. 

505
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,500
So then he Consolidated power 
over Eastern Syria. 

506
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,500
And then, one year later, in the
spring of 2014 rolled right into

507
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Western Iraq, and so, none of 
this could have happened without

508
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,700
the US. 
And in fact, that famous photo 

509
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:21,600
of the line of Toyota trucks 
rolling in from Syria toward 

510
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,100
mosul, where'd all those trucks 
come from? 

511
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,100
They came from Hillary Clinton, 
and the state department. 

512
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:29,800
They were the ones who arranged 
for all those trucks. 

513
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,400
It was Barack Obama's government
who had given all those trucks. 

514
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,500
There's a great story in Public 
Radio International all about 

515
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:36,800
it. 
And you might remember the 

516
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,200
story. 
You can still find memes about 

517
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,500
this. 
Sometimes of there was a guy who

518
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:46,400
owned a plumbing company in 
Corpus Christi, Texas who had 

519
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:49,300
his the name of his company in 
the phone number on the side of 

520
00:27:49,308 --> 00:27:52,200
his truck. 
It was a work truck and he had 

521
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,400
sold it to traded it in to a 
local car dealership for a new 

522
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,400
truck. 
And then like half a year later,

523
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,500
there's footage coming out of 
Syria of these terrorists. 

524
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,800
Firing a machine gun from the 
back of his old truck, and 

525
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,400
people are calling the guy and 
threatening to kill him and his 

526
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,900
kids because he's a traitor on 
the side of the Terrace and all 

527
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,600
this stuff and he's like, come 
on man. 

528
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,000
I'm a plumber from Corpus. 
I never left the thing. 

529
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,800
I'm a proud American Patriot. 
I don't know what you're talking

530
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,400
about. 
Well, of course what had 

531
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
happened was the state 
department had bought his truck 

532
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,100
and had given it to these guys. 
That's the only explanation for 

533
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:30,000
how that. 
Gotten their hands on it. 

534
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,800
And so, you know, Obama claimed.
In fact, there's a hilarious 

535
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,200
clip. 
If you never seen this Keith, 

536
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,300
you gotta look up this great 
clip of Ben's Swan the 

537
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:45,800
libertarian former local news. 
Anchor interviewing. 

538
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,200
Barack Obama and, Barack Obama 
comes to his town and been swan 

539
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,300
has a chance to ask him some 
questions. 

540
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600
And I love the way he sets it up
to, he goes, you know, right 

541
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,000
now, this is before we took Al 
qaeda's side in This is when 

542
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
we're still fighting against al 
Qaeda and Yemen, he goes right 

543
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,100
now. 
You're you're hunting and 

544
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,200
killing got the CIA hunting and 
killing these Al-Qaeda guys in 

545
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,200
Pakistan and in Yemen, fighting 
this war against al queda, 

546
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,700
right? 
And Obama's like haha. 

547
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,600
Yeah, and he was so how backing 
out Caden Syria? 

548
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,100
No. 
Bhagavato. 

549
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,600
I don't know what you're talking
about. 

550
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,500
I don't know anything and 
actually, you know, I'll tell 

551
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,600
you been, what we're doing is 
we're being very careful, like 

552
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,400
he concedes. 
Okay, we're backing the same 

553
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,300
side of the war that Al Qaeda is
on. 

554
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,400
But we're being very careful 
about vetting who we Supply and 

555
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,000
also we're not giving them 
weapons. 

556
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
We're just giving them 
non-lethal material. 

557
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,700
Like say a pickup trucks and 
money that of course could be 

558
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:53,100
used to buy guns and the rest 
and then I can't leave this out.

559
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,700
There's an article in the 
Atlantic. 

560
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,900
It's an interview of Obama. 
Bye. 

561
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:04,200
Jeffrey Goldberg who's Israel's 
commissar of American Media and 

562
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,200
Jeffrey Goldberg. 
Basically. 

563
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,800
First of all, the article is 
called as president. 

564
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,700
I don't Bluff and what he's 
talking about there. 

565
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:14,400
Is he saying to Jeffrey? 
Goldberg. 

566
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,700
Would you please tell the 
Israelis for me that you believe

567
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:20,000
me? 
When I say that I will never let

568
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,300
Iran get nukes. 
I will nuke Iran before I let 

569
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,700
them get nukes. 
And when I'm making a deal with 

570
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:27,800
them that's to prevent them from
getting nukes. 

571
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,900
Not that help. 
I'm get nukes, you believe me. 

572
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:32,700
Don't you join Jeffrey? 
Goldberg, please tell the 

573
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,500
Israelis for me. 
They listen to you. 

574
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,400
That's essentially the point of 
the interview. 

575
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Okay, but they talked about 
Syria in there. 

576
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,100
Again. 
It's called as president. 

577
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,900
I don't Bluff. 
Okay. 

578
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,500
You go through their control, 
F4, Syria. 

579
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,000
And you find Jeffrey. 
Goldberg says to Obama. 

580
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,900
Hey, man, don't you think that 
if we got rid of Assad in Syria,

581
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:55,500
this is spring of 2012. 
So, this is, you know, a year 

582
00:30:55,500 --> 00:31:00,800
into the intervention here, 
don't you think that if We got 

583
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,900
rid of Assad, that, that would 
be a great way to weaken Iran. 

584
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,300
And Obama says, absolutely. 
That's exactly what we're doing.

585
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:11,500
And that's exactly why we're 
doing it. 

586
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:17,000
We're targeting us odd, the 
secular bought, this dictator of

587
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,600
of Syria whose coalition 
government. 

588
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,100
Essentially protects all of the 
ethnic and religious minorities,

589
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,500
the alawites, the Shiites, the 
druze, the Assyrian child, Ian 

590
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:34,500
and Mariah night Christians and 
least a solid plurality of not 

591
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:36,800
the Already of the Sunni Arabs 
as well. 

592
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,500
From these mujahideen terrorists
that are being backed by the US 

593
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,800
and he said, yeah, but if we got
rid of him, wouldn't that help 

594
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,300
weaken, Iran and Obama says, 
yep, that's right. 

595
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:50,400
That's exactly what we're doing.
And why were doing it? 

596
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,100
And so then Goldberg says, well,
but what exactly are we doing? 

597
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:56,600
Can you tell me some more about 
what we're doing to achieve that

598
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,300
goal? 
And he says, sorry, I can't tell

599
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:03,000
you Jeffrey cuz your classified 
clearance isn't High Enough. 

600
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,700
In other words, I could tell 
you, but then I'd have to kill 

601
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:10,200
you, joke, joke ink, that yet. 
We are arming the terrorists to 

602
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,700
fight against Assad, but I can't
go into the details on that, but

603
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,100
it ain't just trucks. 
And by the way, of course, as I 

604
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,900
mentioned, the Saudis, the 
qataris, the Turks, and the 

605
00:32:19,908 --> 00:32:23,600
Israelis were all working 
together on this same plan to, 

606
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:28,800
in fact, type in for your 
audience, type in Biden, Harvard

607
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Syria, and there's a on YouTube 
of Biden at Harvard explaining 

608
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,500
this Thing. 
But blaming it on all of our 

609
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,200
allies, instead of taking any 
responsibility for the Obama 

610
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,500
Administration himself. 
He says, oh no, it's just Saudi 

611
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:47,600
and turkey and Qatar who have 
decided that they want to back 

612
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,600
anybody who's opposing Assad, 
but it turns out that includes 

613
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,200
some really dangerous guys and 
that includes Al-Qaeda 

614
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,800
terrorists. 
And so there's your story 

615
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,300
confirmed. 
In fact, I got another good one,

616
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,400
John Kerry who was Hillary 
Clinton's replacement at state. 

617
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,300
In the second term. 
John Kerry, and his assistant. 

618
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,600
I forgot the guys name. 
They were secretly recorded. 

619
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,000
While meeting with a group of 
Exile Rebel supporters in Great 

620
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Britain, and they explained in 
there, John Kerry's own words. 

621
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,800
He's saying to them. 
That look, I know you guys want 

622
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,500
more guns, but we dumped a ton 
of guns into Syria. 

623
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000
Okay, and then he says this, I 
swear you can check me. 

624
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:37,200
He says we saw the rise of Isis,
but we thought we could manage. 

625
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:41,700
We thought we'd be able to use 
the rise of Isis as pressure 

626
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:46,800
against Assad that he'd better 
resign, but that didn't work 

627
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,900
instead. 
He just called in Iran and 

628
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:53,600
Russia to help him. 
And so now we're in the position

629
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,200
where we've got the Islamic 
State and I don't know, he 

630
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,000
doesn't say this specifically at
that point, but He's longing 

631
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,600
State, headed east into Western 
Iraq. 

632
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:09,000
They didn't go west to Damascus,
or they did try for a bit. 

633
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,800
And in fact, it was in the 
November of 2015, that Isis was 

634
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,800
finally ready to march on 
Baghdad, and had cut one of the 

635
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,100
major highways. 
I forgot, which think it was the

636
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,600
M4 Highway they call or 
something like that, between 

637
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,500
Damascus and Aleppo. 
And they were marching on 

638
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,400
Damascus. 
And it was only then that 

639
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,100
finally, the Russians intervene 
and came in. 

640
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,400
And started bombing them. 
And you'll remember all the 

641
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,800
outrage in the liberal media at 
the time that oh, no, they're 

642
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,300
not bombing Isis. 
They're bombing the rebels. 

643
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:45,000
Meaning the cia's terrorists. 
They're bombing the al-nusra 

644
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,300
front and their allies instead 
of their old allies, the Islamic

645
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:50,800
State. 
And they even came up with all 

646
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,900
these lies that Assad was 
secretly backing Isis. 

647
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,400
When it was the Americans and 
their allies especially turkey, 

648
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,000
who had been backing Isis and 
filter all the, the former CIA 

649
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,700
officer. 
Sir had gone in 2013 had gone to

650
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:06,300
Turkey. 
He had formerly been stationed 

651
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,200
in Turkey when he was CIA and 
likes to go back there on 

652
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:15,300
vacation sometimes and things. 
And I forget if he was in, if he

653
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,000
was in Ankara or Istanbul. 
I think he said he was in Ankara

654
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:22,500
and their guys, raising money 
for Isis, all up and down the 

655
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,300
street in downtown anchor or 
whatever, right? 

656
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,400
They're blatantly in front of 
everybody and everybody in the 

657
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,100
world knew that he wanted to go 
and fight with Isis. 

658
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,600
He To go to Turkey and then go 
across the border from there. 

659
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,100
There was even a case where the 
FBI and the justice department 

660
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:42,100
prosecuted an American who was 
trying to travel to Turkey, to 

661
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,500
go fight with al-nusra over 
there and his defense, which is 

662
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:50,900
totally believable was but the 
CIA recruited me. 

663
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,900
I was going to fight on the side
of the good guys. 

664
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,100
What do you mean? 
Now you're going to put me in 

665
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:58,400
prison for material support for 
terrorism. 

666
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:01,100
Well, the FBI and the CIA are 
always fighting. 

667
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,800
It just ain't fair. 
And so, and then, and there were

668
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,500
hundreds of Americans at least 
thousands of Europeans who went 

669
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,900
to Syria to fight on the side of
the terrorists. 

670
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,000
Who then the f.b.i. 
Minute. 

671
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,300
They weren't even tracking these
guys. 

672
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,800
They didn't even know which 
Americans had gone to fight and 

673
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,700
might be coming back again. 
And very much like page 57 of 

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Fool's errand, where you 
reference, a conversation 

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between Wesley, Clark and Amy 
Goodman, where he refers to a 

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memo that Donald Rumsfeld drawn 
up. 

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By Secretary of Defense, Donald 
Rumsfeld staff listing, seven 

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countries for regime change, 
Iraq Syria, Lebanon, Libya, 

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Somalia, Sudan and Iran were. 
So we've gotten so much info on.

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Welcome to Keith's. 
And I don't tread on anyone. 

681
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600
Some time ago. 
I came across these signs with 

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US, Marines, saying Obama. 
I will not deploy to fight for 

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your Al-Qaeda rebels in Syria. 
Wake up people. 

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I did not join the Navy to fight
for Al-Qaeda in the Syrian Civil

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War. 
I will not fight for Al-Qaeda in

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Syria. 
There were a number of these 

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protests. 
So I decided to ask Scott 

688
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,300
Horton, what it meant when we 
had a number. 

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Of what really appear to be 
Marines saying, I will not fight

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00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:27,800
for Al-Qaeda in Syria and Libya.
Now, one of the articles that 

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Scott Horton, mentions is an 
article from foreign affairs, a 

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publication of the Council on 
Foreign Relations titled 

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accepting Al-Qaeda. 
The enemy of the United States 

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00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:42,100
is Enemy by Barack Mendelssohn, 
March 9th, 2015. 

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00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,200
The article is actually behind a
pay wall. 

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So I was actually able to find 
it here in Which part of the 

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article, says Washington's 
reluctance to deploy combat 

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forces. 
Against Isis has limited its 

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options to air power, and a 
Reliance on allies Ground 

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Forces. 
There are some merits to this 

701
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strategy and signs that it is 
indeed. 

702
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,900
Bearing fruit. 
Isis is astounding. 

703
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:10,500
Advanced has been rolled back in
some locations such as sinjar 

704
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,600
Iraq cobby, Syria, but the 
unwillingness to invest greater 

705
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,300
American resources, comes with a
price, the United States. 

706
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:22,700
Settling for limited and gradual
progress progress, which is not 

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enough to destroy Isis. 
So the article goes on more so 

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than during the bin Laden are 
al-qaeda's cohesiveness, depends

709
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on the ability of its leadership
to hold the various franchises 

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together and it is unclear. 
Whether Al-Qaeda can endure 

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another session since Al qaeda's
veteran leaders have dwindled 

712
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considerably in recent years, 
making it more dependent on Old 

713
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:52,400
Guard figures such as as zul 
Hari to maintain Unity as such 

714
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,400
the grounds fate, may depend ons
while hari's, personal survival.

715
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,200
It is certainly ironic that at 
this point when the United 

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,800
States is, is the closest it has
ever been to destroying Al 

717
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,200
Qaeda. 
Its interests would be better 

718
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,600
served by keeping the terrorist 
organization. 

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Afloat ends while Hari alive 
Here is the other article Scott 

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00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:19,800
mentions in the Atlantic Obama 
to Iran and Israel as president 

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00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,000
of the United States. 
I don't Bluff Jeffrey Goldberg 

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00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000
March 2nd 2012. 
Now if we look at the exchange 

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we scroll down to here. 
Goldberg says, can you just talk

724
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:35,300
about Sharia as a strategic 
issue talked about it as a 

725
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humanitarian issue as well, but 
it would seem to me that one way

726
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:44,000
to weaken and further isolate 
you One is to remove or help 

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,400
remove Iran's only Arab Ally 
Obama. 

728
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Absolutely Goldberg. 
And so the question is, well, 

729
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,700
what else can this 
Administration be doing? 

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00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,000
He's openly saying, what can the
u.s. 

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Do in favor of Israel Obama? 
Well, look, there's no doubt 

732
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,300
that Iran is much weaker now 
than it was a year ago. 

733
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Two years ago, three years ago 
the Arab Spring as bumpy as it 

734
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has been represents a strategic 
defeat for Iran. 

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Because what people in the 
region have seen is that all the

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impulses towards freedom and 
self-determination and free 

737
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speech and freedom of assembly 
have been constantly violated by

738
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Iran. 
If you wanted a weaker on, why 

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would you attack Iraq? 
Who was their great enemy? 

740
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Who they had just had a war with
when you supported Iraq during 

741
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the Iraq. 
Iran War under Reagan. 

742
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Well, of course, as Vladimir 
Putin said, to Oliver Stone, the

743
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US presidents, very often 
changed. 

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Policies. 
Never do. 

745
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:47,300
The Iranian leadership is no 
friend of that movement toward 

746
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human rights and political 
freedom, but more directly. 

747
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It is now going golfing Syria. 
And Syria is basically their 

748
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only true Ally in the region. 
The guardian. 

749
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Now the truth emerges how the 
u.s. 

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Fueled the rise of Isis in Syria
and Iraq, the sectarian terror 

751
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group won't be defeated by 
western states that incubated it

752
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in the first place. 
June 3rd, 2015, British state 

753
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was itself, providing an 
extensive support to the armed, 

754
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Syrian opposition didn't only 
include the non-lethal 

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assistance, boasted by the 
government including body armor.

756
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,500
In military vehicles, but 
training logistical support and 

757
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:35,300
the secret supply of arms on a 
massive scale, reports were 

758
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:39,200
cited that MI6 had cooperated 
with the Central Intelligence 

759
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,900
Agency on a rat line of arms 
transfers from Libyan stockpiles

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to the Syrian rebels, in 2012. 
After the fall of the Gaddafi 

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regime, the Islamic State 
formerly known as al-Qaeda in 

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Iraq, defense intelligence 
agency. 

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00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:02,400
Document identifies al-Qaeda in 
Iraq, which became Isis and 

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fellow salivates as the major 
forces driving the Insurgency in

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Syria and states that Western 
countries the Gulf States and 

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Turkey were supporting the 
opposition's efforts to take 

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control of Eastern Syria. 
Operation Timber. 

768
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:24,300
Sycamore was a classified weapon
Supply and training program run 

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by the United States. 
Central Intelligence Agency and 

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supported by some Arab 
intelligence services such as 

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the security service in Saudi 
Arabia launched in 2012 or 2013.

772
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,100
It's applied money weaponry and 
training to Rebel forces 

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fighting Syrian president Bashar
al-assad in the Syrian Civil 

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War. 
According to us officials. 

775
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The program was run. 
By the cia's special activities 

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Division and has trained 
thousands of rebels President. 

777
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,100
Barack Obama secretly authorized
the CIA to begin. 

778
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Arming Syria's in Battlement. 
Rebels in 2013. 

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00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:06,100
The program's existence was 
suspected after the US Federal 

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00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:10,100
Business Opportunities website, 
publicly solicited contract, 

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00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:15,200
bids to ship tons of Weaponry, 
from Eastern, Europe, to suku, 

782
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,800
turkey, and aqua bra. 
Jordan one consequence of the 

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00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,900
program has been to a flood of 
Us weapons. 

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Including assault rifles. 
Don't worry. 

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00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,800
I'm sure they had tons of 
background checks, which they 

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totally support mortars and 
rocket, propelled grenades into 

787
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,000
the middle east's. 
Black Market just like they did 

788
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,600
in Fast and Furious when they 
gave a guns to the Mexican drug 

789
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,100
cartel because they're so 
worried about guns getting in 

790
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:46,200
the hands of bad people in July 
of 2017. 

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00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Us officials stated that Timber 
see More would be phased out 

792
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with funds possibly redirecting 
to fighting the Islamic State of

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00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:00,200
Iraq and the Levant isil or two 
offering Rebel forces defensive 

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00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,500
capabilities. 
This is according to the Los 

795
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:08,800
Angeles Times in Syria militants
armed by the Pentagon fight 

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those armed. 
By the CIA in Syria militants 

797
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,400
armed by the Pentagon fight 
those armed by the CIA, 

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00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,400
unintended conflict CIA, armed, 
Syrian rebels, clash with 

799
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,300
Pentagon backed militias along 
Turkish border. 

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The fighting has intensified 
over the last two months as CIA 

801
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:30,700
armed units and Pentagon arm. 
Pentagon armed ones have 

802
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:33,500
repeatedly shot at each other. 
While maneuvering through 

803
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:38,200
contested territory on the 
Northern outskirts of Aleppo, us

804
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,700
officials and rebel leaders, 
have confirmed a CIA armed 

805
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:46,100
militia called Farson, al-haq or
nights of righteousness. 

806
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,300
Any faction that attacks us? 
Regardless of where it gets is 

807
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:53,100
support. 
We will fight the rebel Fighters

808
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,400
described similar clashes in the
town of azaz. 

809
00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:00,800
The attacks by one of the u.s. 
Back groups against another came

810
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,400
amid continued. 
Heavy fighting. 

811
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:06,400
Ting in Syria and Illustrated 
the difficulty facing us efforts

812
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,000
to coordinate among dozens of 
armed groups, that are trying to

813
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000
overthrow the government of 
Bashar al-assad. 

814
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,500
We can't defeat isil without 
that part of the question. 

815
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:19,100
So we keep trying to forge those
relationships. 

816
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,700
Isil is an acronym for the 
Islamic State. 

817
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,100
President Obama this month, 
authorized a new Pentagon, plan 

818
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,200
to train and arm Syrian fighter 
Rebels. 

819
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Last year. 
The Pentagon helped create a new

820
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,700
military coalition. 
The Syrian Democratic forces 

821
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while the pentagon's actions are
part of an overt effort by the 

822
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,900
US and its allies against the 
Islamic State. 

823
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:46,700
The cia's backing of militias is
part of a separate covert, u.s. 

824
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,400
Effort, aimed at keeping 
pressure on the Assad government

825
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,500
in hopes of prodding Syrian 
leader. 

826
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To the negotiation table on 
February 18th. 

827
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The Syrian Democratic forces. 
Attacked a town, u.s. 

828
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:03,700
LED coalition. 
Fighting Islamic State, new 

829
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:07,800
their group had clashed with 
Pentagon trained militias. 

830
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,700
So that is what's going on. 
They're arming both sides and 

831
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creating a conflict so they 
could come in as the saviors. 

832
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,700
David Petraeus has Bright Idea. 
Give terrorist weapons to beat 

833
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:24,500
the terrorists from the 
guardian. 

834
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:26,600
Former CIA director. 
David. 

835
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,100
Petraeus is advocating giving 
arms to members of al-nusra 

836
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front in al-Qaeda, offshoot to 
beat Isis. 

837
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:40,400
This is madness. 
Here is the article continuously

838
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:43,600
ignored in the debate over 
arming Syrian rebels. 

839
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,300
Is that the CIA itself? 
Produced a study that concluded 

840
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,500
that? 
I mean, any Rebel Force, whether

841
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,800
they are notorious terrorist 
group are not? 

842
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:55,000
Is generally. 
A bad idea of the study found 

843
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,800
that most of the time such 
attempts either fail 

844
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spectacularly or backfire in the
face of the United States, even 

845
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,400
if they initially succeed, this 
study, which is often classified

846
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,800
was apparently disregarded by 
the Obama Administration and 

847
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,400
there's no proof Congress even 
saw it when voted to arm the 

848
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,200
moderate rebels in the First 
place. 

849
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,400
Petraeus is likely not the only 
one who thinks this plan to work

850
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,100
with with and our members of 
al-nusra. 

851
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,000
A van for Al-Qaeda is a good 
idea. 

852
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:35,400
Here we have the Washington 
Post, September 11, 2013. 

853
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,700
The CIA begins weapons, delivery
to Syrian rebels, alleged use of

854
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:44,400
chemical weapons in a deadly 
attack, near Damascus. 

855
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,500
Last month from Bashar al-assad 
was the justification same 

856
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:52,000
justification. 
They used under Donald. 

857
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,400
Trump's regime to send 57 
tomahawk missiles. 

858
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,700
These arms are being delivered 
as the United States is also 

859
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:02,100
shipping new. 
Of non-lethal gear to the 

860
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:04,600
Rebels, the AIDS include 
Vehicles, sophisticated 

861
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,700
Communications equipment and 
advanced combat medical kits. 

862
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:13,500
The delays prompted, several 
senior us lawmakers to chide the

863
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:17,600
Obama Administration, for not 
moving more quickly to Aid, the 

864
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,900
Syrian opposition. 
After promising, lethal 

865
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:25,500
assistance in June. 
This doesn't only lead to a more

866
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:29,400
effective Force but it 
increasingly it increases its 

867
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,400
Bility to hold Coalition groups 
together said, Mark s Ward. 

868
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,000
The state department senior 
advisor on assistance to Syria 

869
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:39,700
who coordinates non-lethal Aid 
to the rebels. 

870
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,700
From Southern turkey, turkey. 
Remember turkey, when the Ron 

871
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,400
Rand, Paul, Hillary Clinton clip
comes up. 

872
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,300
They see their leadership is 
having some impact. 

873
00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:55,000
The CIA shipments are to flow 
through a network of clandestine

874
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,500
bases, in Turkey and Jordan, 
that were expanded over the 

875
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:03,600
Years as the agency sought to 
help Middle Eastern allies 

876
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,500
including Saudi Arabia and Qatar
direct weapons to moderate 

877
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:13,000
Syrian, Rebel forces the CIA 
declined to comment, which is 

878
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,100
weird considering according to 
CIA dot-gov. 

879
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:21,700
If you go to myth, number 6, it 
is a myth that the CIA operates 

880
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,900
independently and is not an 
account. 

881
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,500
It is not accountable to anyone.
The CIA is responsible to the 

882
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,000
The American people, we operate 
in accordance, with oversight 

883
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,500
from us, elected representative.
So see, you know, you are the 

884
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,400
government. 
You are the CIA when the CIA 

885
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,200
does something you do it. 
You don't have any more 

886
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,900
information than the CIA or the 
FBI or the NSA. 

887
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:51,800
Does, we are the government 
about 10 days after 9/11. 

888
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,100
I went through the Pentagon and 
I saw secretary Rumsfeld, and 

889
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:58,900
And deputy secretary wolfowitz, 
I went downstairs, just say 

890
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,700
hello to some of the people on 
The Joint staff, who used to 

891
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,600
work for me, and one of the 
generals called me and he said, 

892
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,400
sir, you gotta come in, you got 
to come in and talk to me a 

893
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,600
second. 
I said, well, you're too busy 

894
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,100
said, no. 
No, he says, we've made the 

895
00:50:11,107 --> 00:50:13,500
decision. 
We're going to war with Iraq. 

896
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,800
This was honor about the 20th of
September. 

897
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,300
I said we're going to war with 
Iraq. 

898
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:22,200
Why? 
He said, I don't know. 

899
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,900
He said, I guess they don't know
what else to do. 

900
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,900
So I said, well, did they find 
some information? 

901
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:32,200
Collect connecting Saddam to 
Al-Qaeda? 

902
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,700
He said no, no says there's 
nothing new that way. 

903
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:38,600
They just made the decision to 
go to war with Iraq. 

904
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:41,800
He said I guess it's like we 
don't know what to do about 

905
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,500
terrorists, but we got a good 
military and we can take down 

906
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:49,600
governments and he said I guess 
if the only tool you have is a 

907
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,200
hammer. 
Every problem has to look like a

908
00:50:51,207 --> 00:50:54,900
nail. 
So I came back to see him a few 

909
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:58,000
weeks later. 
And by that time we were bombing

910
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,600
in Afghanistan. 
I said, are we still going to 

911
00:50:59,607 --> 00:51:01,500
war with Iraq? 
And he said, oh, it's worse than

912
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,800
that. 
He said he reached over on his 

913
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,100
desk. 
He picked up a piece of paper. 

914
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,400
He said, I just, he said, I just
got this down from upstairs 

915
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,100
coming, the secretary of defense
office today. 

916
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,600
And he said, this is a memo that
describes how we're going to 

917
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,900
take out seven countries in five
years, starting with Iraq, and 

918
00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:21,000
then Syria. 
Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, 

919
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,700
and finishing off Iran. 
I said is it classified? 

920
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:27,100
He said? 
Yes, sir. 

921
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:34,100
I said I said, well don't show 
it to me and I saw him a year or

922
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,100
so ago and I said remember that 
he said, sorry, I didn't show 

923
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,000
you that memo. 
I didn't show it to you. 

924
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:52,100
Is the United States supporting 
al-Qaeda in Syria? 

925
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,300
The answer is yes, fact. 
Number one. 

926
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:58,900
There is no question that 
Al-Qaeda Fighters are part of 

927
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:01,600
the opposition. 
Forces, attempting to overthrow.

928
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,100
Syria's government. 
Fag number to the creation of 

929
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,600
al-Qaeda, wasn't Islamic 
fundamentalism. 

930
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:11,300
It was the CIA. 
The mujahideen was created by 

931
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:14,400
the CIA to cause problems for 
the Soviets. 

932
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,100
And you might say that's crazy 
talk right here. 

933
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:20,500
Secretary of Hillary Clinton to 
be, to be fair. 

934
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:22,200
We had helped to create the 
problem. 

935
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,300
We're now fighting how? 
Because, when the Soviet Union 

936
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:28,900
invaded Afghanistan. 
We had this brilliant idea that 

937
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:33,100
we were going to come to 
Pakistan and create a force of 

938
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:35,800
mujahideen. 
Equip them with stinger missiles

939
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,800
and everything else to go after 
the Soviets inside Afghanistan, 

940
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:43,800
and we were successful. 
The Soviets left Afghanistan. 

941
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,100
And then we said great. 
Goodbye leaving these. 

942
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:54,800
And people who were fanatical in
Afghanistan and Pakistan leaving

943
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,100
them. 
Well armed, creating a mess. 

944
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:01,600
Frankly. 
That the time, we didn't really 

945
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,900
recognize we were just so happy 
to see the Soviet Union fall and

946
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:06,000
we thought. 
Okay, fine. 

947
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,100
We're okay. 
Now everything's going to be so 

948
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:08,900
much better. 
Now. 

949
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:12,100
You look back. 
The people were fighting today. 

950
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,400
We were supporting in the fight 
against the Soviets. 

951
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,900
So it's not a conspiracy theory.
Its history and its history, 

952
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:24,000
that's being repeated in Libya 
and now in Syria, but there is a

953
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,900
bigger problem here. 
One, that every American should 

954
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:30,600
be questioning were fighting 
al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, but 

955
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,500
we're also bombing Al Qaeda 
Targets in Pakistan and Yemen. 

956
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,100
And as we do that something 
occurs known as collateral 

957
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:42,200
damage, hundreds of civilians in
Yemen have been killed in. 

958
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,700
Just the first half of 2012 by 
US air strikes. 

959
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:49,100
Aimed at Al-Qaeda Fighters. 
We also So, have a history of 

960
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,900
kind of moving in and out of 
Pakistan. 

961
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,900
I mean, let's remember here a 
people. 

962
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:58,400
We are fighting today. 
We funded 20 years ago and we 

963
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,400
did it because we were locked in
this struggle with the Soviet 

964
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,500
Union. 
They invaded Afghanistan and we 

965
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:11,700
did not want to see them control
Central Asia and we went to work

966
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,700
and it was President Reagan in 
partnership with the Congress 

967
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:19,200
led by democrats. 
He said, you know what, telling 

968
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,500
a pretty good idea. 
Let's deal with the isi and the 

969
00:54:22,508 --> 00:54:25,700
Pakistani military, and let's go
recruit these mujahideen. 

970
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,200
And let's great. 
Let's get some to come from 

971
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,800
Saudi Arabia and other places 
importing. 

972
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,900
Their wahhabi brand of Islam so 
that we can go beat the Soviet 

973
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:40,200
Union and will guess what they 
retreated, they lost billions of

974
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,500
dollars and it led to the 
collapse of the Soviet Union. 

975
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:46,100
So there's a very strong 
argument which is wasn't a bad 

976
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:49,600
investment and the Soviet Union.
But let's be careful what we? 

977
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,000
So, because we will harvest, and
we now are making up for a lot 

978
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000
of lost time. 
So, what you need to know 

979
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,500
tonight is heavy. 
Our government is bombing sites,

980
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:03,500
around the world, in an ongoing 
war with al-Qaeda in Iraq, where

981
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:06,000
Al Qaeda had no presence before 
the US War. 

982
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:09,100
Al-Qaeda is now thriving. 
The same Al-Qaeda. 

983
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,400
Yes. 
Created by the US government in 

984
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,000
order to harm the Soviets and 
today at least thirteen thousand

985
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,800
civilians in Afghanistan are And
as a result of that war with 

986
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Al-Qaeda, so with all respect to
miss Fitzgerald from the Irish 

987
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Times. 
This is not propaganda, rather. 

988
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,600
It is the question that every 
American should be demanding 

989
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,000
answers on them from Congress. 
And from this President. 

990
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Why are we giving Al-Qaeda 
Fighters money and weapons to 

991
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,400
overthrow yet? 
Another government in the Middle

992
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,700
East today. 
Our government claims are 

993
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:44,500
freeing the people of Syria 
tomorrow. 

994
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,700
If history tells us anything, we
will be killing and wounding. 

995
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:51,200
Civilians in airstrikes and then
referring to them as collateral 

996
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,400
damage in a war, with an enemy 
who we brought to power. 

997
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,600
After Iraq, there was Libya 
where we were, asked to believe 

998
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,800
that the invasion of the 
oil-rich country and rushed to 

999
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,400
set up a central bank. 
By the foreign-backed opposition

1000
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,800
was nothing more than an attempt
to save the country from a 

1001
00:56:06,808 --> 00:56:10,300
power-mad dictator who was 
arming his troops with Viagra to

1002
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,100
help them. 
Rape innocent civilians. 

1003
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,400
Nikka, you had a chance to speak
with the chief prosecutor of the

1004
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,300
international criminal court, 
the the issue being Qaddafi, the

1005
00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:24,300
libyans, what they're doing. 
What do they, what did he tell 

1006
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:26,900
you? 
Well, one of the things he wants

1007
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:29,000
to investigate. 
Now, he says his priorities to 

1008
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,400
investigate allegations of rape 
that may be systematic and 

1009
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,200
rapers, being assisted. 
He said, by the distribution of 

1010
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,400
Viagra or Viagra, light product 
sexually performance, enhancing 

1011
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,000
products that are getting in the
hands of guitar. 

1012
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:46,600
His forces and are being used as
part of gang, rape. 

1013
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,300
And these are allegations that 
are surfacing that he says he 

1014
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:51,300
wants to investigate as a 
priority. 

1015
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:56,300
Until this pretext was 
overturned by a pesky reporter 

1016
00:56:56,300 --> 00:56:59,000
asking for actual evidence of 
these crimes. 

1017
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:05,100
How many people helping with 
being cute and in which should 

1018
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:11,500
turn in which aside and what 
kind of the crimes he has ever 

1019
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:17,700
done in your investigations? 
I advise you to read the 

1020
00:57:17,707 --> 00:57:19,500
application of the prosecutor 
office. 

1021
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:22,200
Many patients. 
I think was 77 Pages. 

1022
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:26,600
We describe in detail, the 
facts, most of it is public and 

1023
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,300
the judges also decided and 
lightened evidence. 

1024
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:32,100
So, Of course, we have 
prosecutors and judges. 

1025
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:35,300
So we rely on facts. 
So we prove the crimes. 

1026
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:40,000
I will we did we present the 
case with judges and for a month

1027
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,600
and ten days, three judges from 
three different continents, 

1028
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,500
making independent evaluation 
and they decided as pointed out 

1029
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:51,400
by Luis moreno-ocampo. 
The document does have 77 pages,

1030
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,900
but most of its content is not 
public Pages 17 to 71 have been 

1031
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,900
redacted, precisely the ones in 
closing the summer. 

1032
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,100
Murray's of evidence and 
testimonies. 

1033
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:22,300
US National Security adviser 
Brzezinski flew to Pakistan to 

1034
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:26,100
set about rallying resistance. 
He wanted to arm the mujahideen 

1035
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,400
without revealing America's role
on The Afghan border near the 

1036
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,700
Khyber. 
Pass the urged, the soldiers of 

1037
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:37,800
God to redouble their efforts. 
We know their deep belief in 

1038
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,000
God, they are confident that 
their struggle. 

1039
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Soft also. 
Humble Solomon on that land over

1040
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,400
there is yours. 
You'll go back to it one day 

1041
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,100
because your fight will prevail 
and you'll have your home's, 

1042
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:58,100
your mosques back again because 
your cause is right and God is 

1043
00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:04,900
on your side. 
The purpose of coordinating, 

1044
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,800
with the pakistanis will be too 
many Soviets bleed for as much 

1045
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:19,600
as long as possible. 
Question, the former director of

1046
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,600
the CIA Robert Gates stated in 
his Memoirs that the American 

1047
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,700
intelligence Services began to 
Aid the mujahideen in 

1048
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:31,000
Afghanistan. 
Six months before, the Soviet 

1049
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,400
intervention in this period. 
You were the National Security 

1050
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,500
adviser to President Carter. 
You therefore played a role in 

1051
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:43,300
this fear, is that correct? 
Presents key. 

1052
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:48,900
Yes, according to the official 
version of History CIAA to the 

1053
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:54,400
mujahideen began during 1980 
that is to say after the Soviet 

1054
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,400
Army invaded Afghanistan on the 
24th of December 1979. 

1055
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:05,200
But the reality secretly guarded
until now is completely. 

1056
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:10,900
Otherwise indeed. 
It was July 3, 1979 that 

1057
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,600
President Carter Signed the 
first directive for secret Aid 

1058
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,300
to the opponents of the 
pro-soviet regime in Kabul. 

1059
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:23,200
And that very day. 
I wrote a note to the president 

1060
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:26,600
in which I explain to him that 
in my opinion. 

1061
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,200
This Aid was going to induce a 
Soviet military intervention. 

1062
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,000
Question. 
Despite this risk, you were an 

1063
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,800
advocate of this curve, covid 
plan, but perhaps you yourself 

1064
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,200
desired this, Soviet entry into 
war and look to provoke it. 

1065
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:49,600
Brzezinski. 
It isn't quite like that. 

1066
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,100
We didn't push the Russians to 
intervene, but we knowingly 

1067
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,700
increase the probability that 
they would. 

1068
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,000
Question. 
When the Soviets Justified their

1069
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,900
intervention by asserting that 
they intended to fight against a

1070
01:01:05,908 --> 01:01:09,400
secret involvement of the United
States in Afghanistan? 

1071
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,700
People didn't believe them. 
However, there was a basis of 

1072
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:18,100
truth. 
You don't regret anything today.

1073
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,700
Presents key recreate what that 
secret operation was an 

1074
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:28,100
excellent idea. 
It had the effect of drawing the

1075
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:32,700
Russians into the Afghan trap 
and you want me to Grim regret 

1076
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:37,300
it the day that the Soviets 
officially crossed the border. 

1077
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,900
I wrote to President Carter 
saying we now have the 

1078
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:47,800
opportunity of giving the USSR 
its own Vietnam War. 

1079
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:53,800
Indeed for almost 10 years 
Moscow had to carry on a war 

1080
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:58,000
unsupportable by the government,
a conflict that brought about 

1081
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:03,100
the demoralisation and finally, 
the breakup of the Soviet 

1082
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:11,900
Empire. 
Question another, do you regret 

1083
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:15,700
having supported Islamic 
fundamentalism, which has given 

1084
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:18,200
arms and advice to Future 
terrorists. 

1085
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,300
Brzezinski, what is more 
important in world history? 

1086
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,600
The Taliban or the collapse of 
the Soviet Empire, some agitated

1087
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,300
Muslims, or the liberation of 
Central Europe and the end of 

1088
01:02:33,300 --> 01:03:42,000
the Cold War. 
Is that site when I was a Cadet?

1089
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:43,700
What's the first? 
What's the cadet motto? 

1090
01:03:43,700 --> 01:03:45,600
At West Point? 
He will not lie, cheat, or 

1091
01:03:45,607 --> 01:03:46,700
steal, or tolerate. 
Those. 

1092
01:03:46,700 --> 01:03:50,300
Who do, I was a CIA director? 
We lied. 

1093
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:55,100
We cheated, we sequenced all. 
That's like we had wind entire 

1094
01:03:55,500 --> 01:04:05,000
entire training courses. 
It reminds you of the glory of 

1095
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,400
the American experiment and 
Al-Qaeda. 

1096
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:08,400
Here we go. 
Watch this. 

1097
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,300
There's a early 2014 email from 
Hillary Clinton. 

1098
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:15,100
So in not so long, after she 
left Secretary of State, to her 

1099
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:23,000
campaign manager, John podesta, 
that email it states that isil. 

1100
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:31,600
Isis is funded by Saudi Arabia 
and Qatar the government's I'm 

1101
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,200
sorry, Arabia and Qatar. 
Now. 

1102
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:38,500
This is a actually, I think this
is the most significant email in

1103
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:43,100
the whole collection and 
perhaps, because Saudi and 

1104
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:49,000
Qatari, money is spread all over
the place including including 

1105
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,900
into many media institutions. 
All serious analysts know even 

1106
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:59,800
the US government has mentioned 
or go agreed with that some 

1107
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,800
Saudi figures. 
Have been supporting Isis, 

1108
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,400
funding Isis, but the Dodgers 
always been. 

1109
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:12,200
That's what it's just, some 
Rogue princes using their cut of

1110
01:05:12,207 --> 01:05:14,600
the oil, money to do whatever 
they like, but actually the 

1111
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,200
government disapproves but that 
email says that. 

1112
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,500
No, it is the government's of 
Saudi and the government and 

1113
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:26,600
Qatar that have been funding 
Isis. 

1114
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:30,500
The shouted. 
Okay, that's a little background

1115
01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:33,400
information. 
Just so you know in that crazy. 

1116
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,000
We're sending troops to guard 
Saudis oil and their funding 

1117
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:42,000
Isis. 
United States also armed Isis 

1118
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:43,500
and will, here's a little bit of
it. 

1119
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:49,900
Here's an interview with General
Flynn. 2012, your agency was 

1120
01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:52,800
saying, quote, the salafists, 
the Muslim Brotherhood, and 

1121
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,700
al-Qaeda in Iraq. 
Are the major forces driving the

1122
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:59,800
Insurgency in Syria in 2012. 
The US was helping coordinate, 

1123
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,600
arms transfers to those same 
groups. 

1124
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,900
Why did you not stop that? 
Did you hear that? 

1125
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,300
That's being revealed. 
Now, I want to make the case for

1126
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:10,600
secrecy in government when it 
comes to the conduct of National

1127
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,000
Security Affairs and it possibly
for deception where that's 

1128
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,500
appropriate. 
No Winston Churchill said during

1129
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:19,600
World War Two. 
In Wartime truth is so 

1130
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,700
important. 
It should be surrounded by a 

1131
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,100
bodyguard of Lies. 
You really believe that. 

1132
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:25,800
Absolutely. 
You, you would lie. 

1133
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,600
In order to preserve the truth. 
If I had to say something, I 

1134
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,700
knew was false to protect 
American National Security. 

1135
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:35,400
I would do it. 
I don't think we're often faced 

1136
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,600
with that difficulty. 
But what I lie about where the 

1137
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,700
D-Day invasion was going to take
place to deceive the Germans, 

1138
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:44,000
you better believe. 
Why do people in the government?

1139
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,600
Think that the rules of society 
or the laws don't apply to them.

1140
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Because they are not dealing in 
the Civil Society. 

1141
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,700
We live in under the 
Constitution. 

1142
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:56,700
They are dealing in an anarchic 
environment internationally 

1143
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,700
where different rules apply. 
But you took an oath to uphold 

1144
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:02,400
the Constitution and the 
Constitution mandates certain 

1145
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,900
openness and certain fairness 
you're willing to do away with 

1146
01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:07,400
that. 
In order to achieve is a 

1147
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,800
temporary military goal. 
And I think is Justice Jackson 

1148
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,600
said in a famous decision. 
The Constitution is not a 

1149
01:07:14,607 --> 01:07:17,000
suicide pact, but you took an 
oath to it. 

1150
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,500
That's exactly. 
And I think defending the United

1151
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:25,100
States from foreign threats does
require actions that in a normal

1152
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,200
business environment in the 
United States. 

1153
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,400
We would find unprofessional. 
I don't make any apology for it.

1154
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:40,300
I prefer. 
Russia is invited in by the 

1155
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:43,600
legitimate regime. 
They were invited in and will 

1156
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,600
not invite. 
We're flying in air space there 

1157
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:53,700
where they can turn on the Air 
defense and we have very 

1158
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:57,000
different scene. 
They are targeted by the 

1159
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:02,000
opposition and we are arming. 
So at training. 

1160
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:06,400
The reason Russia came in is 
because isil was getting 

1161
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,300
stronger. 
Josh was threatening the 

1162
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:12,000
possibility of going to Damascus
and so forth. 

1163
01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:16,600
And that's why Russia came in 
because they didn't want to dash

1164
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,600
government. 
And they supported us. 

1165
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:25,500
And we know that this was this 
was wrong. 

1166
01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:30,600
We were watching we saw that 
that Dash was growing in 

1167
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:37,700
strength and we thought outside 
Muslim we thought however, we 

1168
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:42,600
could probably manage, you know,
that I said might then negotiate

1169
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:47,100
the 7 goes into, you got outside
that you go through supportive. 

1170
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,100
So you think the only solution 
is for somebody who can And get 

1171
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:56,100
rid of us. 
And the only solution is that 

1172
01:08:56,100 --> 01:09:03,500
going to be, Three years ago, I 
would say you but right now, I 

1173
01:09:03,508 --> 01:09:08,100
don't know what we're trying to 
do is help syrians provide for 

1174
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:11,800
their own country and we've been
spending a lot of money. 

1175
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:14,100
A lot of effort to try to help 
do this. 

1176
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,600
So there's an opposition there. 
The opposition is doing very 

1177
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,100
well. 
Russia came in, that's a 

1178
01:09:22,108 --> 01:09:28,000
problem. 
I know because, you know, we, we

1179
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,700
don't, they Like Russian, it's 
just a different standard. 

1180
01:09:32,899 --> 01:09:38,300
We're trying to empower syrians.
To be able to fight against this

1181
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:40,899
guy. 
Now, the Russians have changed 

1182
01:09:40,899 --> 01:09:45,000
the equation. 
Unfortunately, the Russians have

1183
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:51,100
changed the equation. 
President Obama, reportedly 

1184
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:55,100
signing off on this sources. 
Say CIA, operatives are on the 

1185
01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:58,200
ground in Libya and in contact 
with the opposition and joining 

1186
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,300
us to talk more about the cia's 
possible role in Olivia from 

1187
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:03,300
Washington, former CIA 
counterterrorism. 

1188
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:04,700
Analyst. 
Michael Showalter Michael. 

1189
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:06,000
Thanks for being with us this 
morning. 

1190
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,800
You're welcome. 
So there are reports out again 

1191
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,100
at the CIA is on the ground in 
Libya contacting and vetting. 

1192
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:14,900
The rebels. 
Is this setting the stage to arm

1193
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:17,400
them. 
I don't think there's any other 

1194
01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:21,700
possible reason for it. 
And the president clearly has 

1195
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:26,200
sent the agency in to find out 
who he is supporting and to see 

1196
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,300
what kind of material human 
material. 

1197
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:31,800
We would have to work with. 
If we decided to, if the 

1198
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,100
president decided to arm and 
train these people over the 

1199
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:37,600
longer term and you're concerned
about this Prospect, you think 

1200
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,100
it could become another Taliban 
situation for the u.s. 

1201
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:42,600
What in your mind is the worst 
case scenario here. 

1202
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:46,900
Well, Libya has been very strong
in sending young men or having 

1203
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:49,000
its young men, go overseas to 
fight. 

1204
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:53,600
In Islamic insurgencies in the 
Balkans in chechnya Afghanistan,

1205
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,900
especially Iraq, when the height
of the fighting was there those 

1206
01:10:57,900 --> 01:10:59,700
that don't get killed. 
Of course, go home. 

1207
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:03,200
And I think the core of the 
resistance, whatever little 

1208
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,900
military activity, military 
ability, they have is probably 

1209
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:09,100
made up by people. 
We elsewhere, we would call 

1210
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:12,900
mujahideen. 
And so, it's a dicey proposition

1211
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:14,300
to be getting involved with 
this. 

1212
01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:18,700
I'm not sure that the opposition
if it takes power, is going to 

1213
01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:20,400
be much better. 
Then why is Qaddafi? 

1214
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:22,400
That's why you need to have the 
CIA. 

1215
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,500
I presume in their wedding, as 
we said, who are these people 

1216
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:28,900
who are the elements that are 
funding them, or supporting 

1217
01:11:28,900 --> 01:11:31,100
them? 
Who are the politically the 

1218
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:34,100
most, the most palatable in the 
least palatable among them. 

1219
01:11:34,300 --> 01:11:37,300
The White House saying that no 
decision has been made. 

1220
01:11:37,300 --> 01:11:40,400
I have a question for you as a 
CIA veteran, I guess. 

1221
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,500
I mean, the fact that we even 
know about this is that is that 

1222
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:46,500
unusual? 
I mean, should we just assume 

1223
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,400
that the CIA and the sort of a 
situation would of course, be In

1224
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,200
there on the ground. 
Well, if you have to assume that

1225
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,800
the president wants the best 
information that he can get, and

1226
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,500
if he wants to have that 
information. 

1227
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,700
He has to have somebody on the 
ground in. 

1228
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:01,400
So, yes, I think you assume 
wherever there's trouble, you'll

1229
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,500
find the agency. 
The other point I would make 

1230
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,700
here is that vetting? 
The people who are in the 

1231
01:12:07,700 --> 01:12:11,300
opposition, of course is only. 
You're only able to do that, to 

1232
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:13,300
the extent, that they're willing
to talk to you. 

1233
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:16,700
I think the agency will find a 
lot of people who are pro 

1234
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:22,000
democracy and Western eyes. 
Happy to talk to them the the 

1235
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,100
more Islamic oriented people 
aren't going to talk to them 

1236
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:27,700
because that would bring into 
question our air support for 

1237
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:30,700
them. 
So this is a, this is a mission.

1238
01:12:30,700 --> 01:12:33,800
That's a very difficult one. 
And the chances of success are 

1239
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,200
really probably not better than 
50/50. 

1240
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,500
What's the alternative? 
If we don't arm the rebels and 

1241
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,500
they're clearly outmanned and 
outgunned by a qaddafi's forces.

1242
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,600
What's the better solution here?
The better solution was as mr. 

1243
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,900
Paul said, never It all this was
none of our business, but I 

1244
01:12:51,907 --> 01:12:54,500
think what we're seeing is the 
string is playing out. 

1245
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,800
We threatened Qaddafi and that 
didn't work. 

1246
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,800
There's an arms embargo and an 
economic embargo that didn't 

1247
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,900
work. 
There was a UN resolution and 

1248
01:13:01,900 --> 01:13:05,500
that didn't work. 
Aerial bombing has continued and

1249
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:07,900
has impact, but it hasn't 
defeated him. 

1250
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,500
Now. 
We're at the stage where we're 

1251
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:13,400
going to try to are apparently, 
try to train and arm the 

1252
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,100
resistance. 
That takes a long time. 

1253
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:18,900
I don't know if we have that 
time against Qaddafi. 

1254
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:22,700
What we're seeing is the 
president being put in putting 

1255
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:26,200
himself into a corner where his 
only option is ground troops, 

1256
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,000
but that's something that is not
this. 

1257
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,800
That's something that no one 
says that they want to do in 

1258
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,800
this Administration. 
I mean, they simply don't want 

1259
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,000
to do that. 
They want to know they don't. 

1260
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,900
Well then the choice may come 
down to admitting that. 

1261
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:39,100
It was a mistake and being 
defeated in the sense that 

1262
01:13:39,108 --> 01:13:42,900
Qaddafi survives or putting 
ground troops in nations. 

1263
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:45,900
Are a lot like people, they 
don't like making me admitting 

1264
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:49,500
to mistakes and maybe they don't
want to put them in. 

1265
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,700
In. 
But when it comes down to 

1266
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:53,900
looking defeat in the face, I 
wonder you know, you let cca's 

1267
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:58,700
unit the Tractive, some a Bin 
Laden 1996 to 1999 and you 

1268
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:02,200
believe that much like that 
situation America's involvement 

1269
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,300
in Libya, could prove to be a 
recruiting tool for extremists. 

1270
01:14:05,300 --> 01:14:07,300
Why? 
Oh, it's absolutely a recruiting

1271
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:09,900
tool. 
It's the American lead West 

1272
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:13,000
attacking a Muslim country that 
has oil careful to say. 

1273
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,700
It's not the american-led West 
that NATO is now fully taken 

1274
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:18,900
over the operations. 
Well, that may Firepower was 

1275
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:21,400
used in the Inning, but that 
this is a coalition that 

1276
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,500
includes Arab states, that may 
fool some Americans. 

1277
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,200
It's not going to fool the 
people who sympathize with Bin 

1278
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,300
Laden and other islamists. 
This is really a u.s. 

1279
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:33,500
LED operation and you talk about
the Arab states that are 

1280
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:35,300
involved. 
The Arab states are tyrannies 

1281
01:14:35,300 --> 01:14:36,900
that are hated by their own 
people. 

1282
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:39,900
This is a, this is a piece of 
theater set up by mrs. 

1283
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:42,200
Clinton and mrs. 
Mr. McCain and the, the 

1284
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,200
bipartisan group that loves the 
intervene abroad and the Muslim 

1285
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,500
world. 
This is Americans killing 

1286
01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:51,900
Muslims. 
And it looks like it's for oil. 

1287
01:14:52,300 --> 01:14:54,900
I just want Have it both ways 
and saying that, okay, these are

1288
01:14:54,907 --> 01:14:56,100
tyrannies that hate their own 
people. 

1289
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:58,300
Well, that's why we're helping 
because in Libya, it was the 

1290
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:01,600
people that wanted Qaddafi out 
that they were tired of it. 

1291
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,500
So, what we then supporting 
Islamic democracy, I guess you 

1292
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:07,300
could say, in these countries, 
where they're tired of 

1293
01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:11,000
totalitarian rule, if we were 
supporting Islamic democracy, 

1294
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,900
that would be one thing. 
But if you listen to mrs. 

1295
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:15,700
Clinton and especially the grit 
rather crazed Miss rice. 

1296
01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:19,200
At the UN, this is all about 
democracy in a world where 

1297
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,300
democracy is not going to take 
hold. 

1298
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,200
I think it's very clear if I 
could show her that. 

1299
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,200
Are no fan of this policy and 
this Administration. 

1300
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:30,400
I think calling Ambassador rice.
Crazed is certainly a 

1301
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:33,600
significant charge. 
I don't know. 

1302
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,400
I've just listened to her. 
You know, that's only my 

1303
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,800
impression and I have to say 
this is not a democratic 

1304
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,900
problem. 
This is a republican problem to 

1305
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,000
both parties. 
Love to intervene. 

1306
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,600
In other people's business where
there are no us interests at 

1307
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,900
stake and where we spend 
enormous amounts of money at a 

1308
01:15:48,907 --> 01:15:52,100
time when we're nearly bankrupt,
that doesn't seem to me to be a 

1309
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:54,400
wise practice of American 
statesmanship. 

1310
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,500
That's a whole nother story that
to call the United States, 

1311
01:15:57,500 --> 01:15:59,000
bankrupt. 
You guys is reading humongous. 

1312
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,200
Deficits. 
Yes, but the economy, and this 

1313
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,100
mission in Libya are two 
separate issues. 

1314
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:05,300
They're not separate issues, 
ma'am. 

1315
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:06,700
You're just carrying the water 
for mr. 

1316
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:08,300
Obama. 
I'm certainly not carrying any 

1317
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:11,300
ones water and that and I will 
assure you of that Michael. 

1318
01:16:11,300 --> 01:16:13,000
Show your thank you so much for 
your time. 

1319
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:14,400
We you know, we've had a very 
long. 

1320
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,500
Exhaustive interview had plenty 
of time to give your point of 

1321
01:16:16,508 --> 01:16:18,300
view on that. 
We're going to be right back at 

1322
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:20,900
6:30. 
Michael my policy from the 

1323
01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:27,600
beginning has been that That's 
odd had lost credibility that he

1324
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:31,600
attacked his own. 
People has killed his own 

1325
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,400
people, Unleashed a military 
against innocent civilians and 

1326
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,600
that the only way to bring 
stability and peace to Syria is 

1327
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,600
going to be for Assad to step 
down and to move forward on a 

1328
01:16:43,608 --> 01:16:49,700
political transition. 
Now in its Third Day, operation 

1329
01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:53,500
Odyssey Dawn, gathered steam as 
aircraft from more and more 

1330
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:57,200
countries, joined American jets 
in enforcing a no-fly zone over 

1331
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,700
Libya. 
Their mission is limited to 

1332
01:16:59,700 --> 01:17:03,200
stopping Qaddafi from attacking 
his own people, but the 

1333
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,400
commander-in-chief monitoring 
events while on a state visit to

1334
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,700
Chile wants to stop, Qaddafi, 
period. 

1335
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:15,000
It is US policy that Gaddafi 
needs to go Force of Arms alone.

1336
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,400
May not be able to give the 
president what he wants. 

1337
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:20,700
Thank you for appearing, 
secretary Clinton. 

1338
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:23,100
And I'm glad to see your health 
is improving. 

1339
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:26,100
One of the things that 
disappointed me most about the 

1340
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:28,600
original 911 was no one was 
fired. 

1341
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,000
We spend trillions of dollars, 
but there were a lot of human 

1342
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,700
errors. 
These are judgment errors and 

1343
01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:35,400
the people who make judgment 
errors need to be replaced fired

1344
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,200
and no longer in a position of 
making these judgment calls. 

1345
01:17:38,900 --> 01:17:43,300
So we have a Review Board review
board, fine, 64 different things

1346
01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:45,600
that we could change a lot of 
more common sense and should be 

1347
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,100
done. 
But the question is, it's a 

1348
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:48,400
failure. 
ER of leadership that they 

1349
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,200
weren't done in advance and for 
lives were caused because of 

1350
01:17:51,208 --> 01:17:54,300
this, I'm glad that you're 
accepting responsibility. 

1351
01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:57,500
I think that ultimately with 
your leaving you accept the 

1352
01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:01,200
culpability, for the worst 
tragedy since 9/11, and I really

1353
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,100
mean that had I been president 
at the time and I found that you

1354
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:07,400
did not read the cables from 
Benghazi. 

1355
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,600
You did not read the cables from
Ambassador Stevens. 

1356
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,500
I would have relieved you of 
your post. 

1357
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,800
I think it's inexcusable. 
The thing is, is that, you know,

1358
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,300
we can understand that you're 
not reading every cable. 

1359
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,000
I can understand that maybe 
you're not aware of the cable 

1360
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,800
from The Ambassador in Vienna 
that asked for a hundred 

1361
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,100
thousand dollars for an 
electrical charging station. 

1362
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:27,400
I can understand that maybe 
you're not aware that your 

1363
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,100
department spent a hundred 
thousand dollars on three 

1364
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:34,300
comedians who went to India on a
promotional tour called make chi

1365
01:18:34,300 --> 01:18:36,800
not war. 
But I think you might be able to

1366
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,000
be understand and might be aware
of the 80 million spent on a 

1367
01:18:40,008 --> 01:18:42,900
consulate in Musharraf Sharif. 
That will never be built. 

1368
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,400
I think it's inexcusable that 
you did not know about this and 

1369
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,700
that you did not read these. 
Cables, I would think by 

1370
01:18:48,700 --> 01:18:52,900
anybody's estimation Libya has 
to have been one of the hottest 

1371
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:56,800
of hot spots around the world, 
not to know of the request for 

1372
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,200
Securities. 
Really. 

1373
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,200
I think cost these people their 
lives, their lives could have 

1374
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,500
been saved. 
Had someone been more available 

1375
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,400
at someone been aware of these 
things more on top of the job. 

1376
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,900
And the thing is is I don't 
suspect you of bad motives. 

1377
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,400
The review board said, well, 
these people weren't willfully -

1378
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:16,100
negligent. 
I don't think you were 

1379
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:17,400
willfully. 
I don't suspect. 

1380
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:20,700
Your motives of wanting to serve
your country but it was a 

1381
01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:24,300
failure of leadership not to be 
involved was a failure of 

1382
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:26,100
leadership not to know these 
things. 

1383
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,100
And so I think it is good that 
you're accepting responsibility 

1384
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:32,700
because no one else is and this 
is there is a certain amount of 

1385
01:19:32,700 --> 01:19:36,400
culpability to the worst tragedy
since 9/11 and I'm glad you're 

1386
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,200
accepting this now. 
My question is is the u.s. 

1387
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:45,200
Involved with any procuring of 
weapons transfer of weapons, 

1388
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,100
buying selling. 
Anyhow, Throwing weapons to 

1389
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:53,500
turkey out of Libya. 
To Turkey. 

1390
01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:56,000
I will have to take that 
question for the record. 

1391
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,200
That's nobody's Ever Raised. 
That with me. 

1392
01:19:58,300 --> 01:20:00,600
I don't know. 
It's been in news reports that 

1393
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,700
ships have been leaving from 
Libya and that they may have 

1394
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:05,700
weapons. 
And what I'd like to know is the

1395
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:09,400
annex that was close by where 
they involved with procuring 

1396
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,600
buying selling obtaining 
weapons. 

1397
01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:14,000
And where any of these weapons 
being transferred to other 

1398
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,100
countries. 
Any countries, turkey included. 

1399
01:20:16,300 --> 01:20:20,100
Well Center, you'll have to add 
wrecked direct that question to 

1400
01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:24,100
The agency that ran the annex 
and I will I will see what 

1401
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:28,000
information is available and 
you're saying, you don't know, I

1402
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,100
do not know. 
I don't have any information on 

1403
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:33,800
that and you know, with respect 
to Personnel Senator, you know, 

1404
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:40,100
first, that's why we have 
independent people who review 

1405
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:46,100
the situation as we did with the
Pickering and Mullen ARB and all

1406
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:49,800
four individuals identified in 
the ARP have been removed from 

1407
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,300
their Job. 
Secondly, they've been placed on

1408
01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:54,900
administrative leave while we 
step through the Personnel 

1409
01:20:54,900 --> 01:20:56,400
process to determine the next 
steps. 

1410
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,900
Third, both Ambassador, 
Pickering and Admiral. 

1411
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:03,100
Mullen specifically highlighted.
The reason why this is 

1412
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:07,300
complicated because under 
federal statute and regulations.

1413
01:21:07,300 --> 01:21:11,500
Unsatisfactory leadership is not
grounds for finding a breach of 

1414
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:14,600
Duty. 
The ARB did not find these four 

1415
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,700
individuals breached their Duty.
So I have submitted legislation 

1416
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:22,400
to this. 
Eight to the Congress to fix 

1417
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,100
this problem. 
So future arbs will not face the

1418
01:21:25,108 --> 01:21:26,700
situation but here's the 
problem. 

1419
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:29,300
The review board has all these 
recommendations but there's one 

1420
01:21:29,300 --> 01:21:31,600
thing they failed to address and
I think you failed to address 

1421
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,100
and it sets us up for another 
tragedy like this. 

1422
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:37,100
They should have never been sent
in there without a military 

1423
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:39,200
guard. 
This should have been an embassy

1424
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,200
like in Baghdad in a war zone 
and it should have been under 

1425
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,000
military guard. 
Significant military guard, 

1426
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,300
defense department command. 
I don't think the state 

1427
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:51,600
Department's Bible being in the 
war zone. 

1428
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,900
Protecting these people. 
I still don't think that I think

1429
01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:56,600
another tragedy could happen. 
I think another tragedy could 

1430
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,800
happen in another war zone 
around the world. 

1431
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:01,300
I think someone needs to make an
executive decision. 

1432
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:03,000
Someone needs to take 
leadership. 

1433
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,000
And with that leadership should 
be that, you shouldn't send them

1434
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,900
in with no Marines. 
You shouldn't send them in with 

1435
01:22:07,900 --> 01:22:10,100
Marines, or to guard records. 
Not people. 

1436
01:22:10,300 --> 01:22:13,300
You shouldn't send them in with 
the same kind of Ambassador, or 

1437
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:15,100
Embassy staff that you have in 
Paris. 

1438
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:17,800
I think that's inexcusable. 
Well, Senator, the reason I'm 

1439
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,100
here today is to answer 
questions about Style. 

1440
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:27,800
And I am the Secretary of State 
and the are made very clear that

1441
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:33,000
the level of responsibility for 
the failures that they outlined 

1442
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,000
was set at the assistant, 
secretary level, and below. 

1443
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,200
The Administration has sent 
officials to the hill more than 

1444
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,800
30 times. 
We've given as much information.

1445
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,900
We've been as transparent as we 
can. 

1446
01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:50,100
Obviously, we will continue to 
breathe. 

1447
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:55,200
If you and others to answer any 
and all questions that you have 

1448
01:22:55,500 --> 01:23:00,800
about going forward, the reason 
we put into effect, an 

1449
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,900
accountability review board is 
to take it out of the heat of 

1450
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:08,400
politics and partisanship and 
accusations and to put it in the

1451
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,200
hands of people who have no 
stake in the outcome. 

1452
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:17,100
The reason I said, make it open,
tell the world is because I 

1453
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:19,900
believe in transparency. 
I believe in taking 

1454
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:23,000
responsibility. 
Possibility and I have done so, 

1455
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,900
and I hope that we're going to 
be able to see a good working 

1456
01:23:26,900 --> 01:23:30,100
relationship between the state 
department and the committee 

1457
01:23:30,100 --> 01:24:18,400
going forward. 
If there is a theme that 

1458
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:23,300
connects the dots in the Middle 
East, it is that chaos breeds 

1459
01:24:23,300 --> 01:24:26,400
terrorism. 
What much of the foreign policy 

1460
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:31,200
Elite failed to grasp though? 
Is that intervention to topple? 

1461
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,600
Secular dictators has been the 
prime source of the chaos 

1462
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,100
Intervention, when both choices 
are bad, is a mistake 

1463
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:43,700
Intervention. 
When both sides are evil, is a 

1464
01:24:43,708 --> 01:24:49,700
mistake intervention that He 
stabilizes the Middle East is a 

1465
01:24:49,708 --> 01:24:52,200
mistake. 
So yes, we must now defend 

1466
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,400
ourselves from these barbarous 
jihadist, but let's not 

1467
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,600
compound. 
The problem by arming feckless 

1468
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,100
rebels in Syria who seemed to 
be. 

1469
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:06,600
Merely a pit stop for weapons 
that are really on their way to 

1470
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,600
Isis. 
Intervention is not always the 

1471
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:14,100
answer and often leads to 
unintended consequences, but 

1472
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,600
some will argue. 
No, no, it's not. 

1473
01:25:16,700 --> 01:25:19,500
Invention that led this chaos, 
we didn't have enough 

1474
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:22,500
intervention. 
They say, if we'd only given the

1475
01:25:22,500 --> 01:25:25,600
rebels, more arms Isis wouldn't 
be a strong. 

1476
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,300
Now. 
The only problem is the facts 

1477
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:31,300
argue. 
Otherwise, they say, the 

1478
01:25:31,300 --> 01:25:34,100
definition of insanity is doing 
the same thing over and over 

1479
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:35,600
again. 
Expecting a different result. 

1480
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:41,200
We gave 600 tons of weapons to 
the rebels, and they got weaker 

1481
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:45,800
and weaker, and Isis grew 
stronger, perhaps, by throwing 

1482
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,400
all of these This into the Civil
War. 

1483
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,800
We actually degraded Assad's 
ability to counter them. 

1484
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:56,300
One of the men with the most 
knowledge on the ground of this.

1485
01:25:56,300 --> 01:26:00,200
Who's been our ambassador, to 
Iraq and Syria says, we don't 

1486
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,700
have a clue who the moderates 
are and who the jihadists are. 

1487
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,900
And even if they tell you, they 
are the loudest. 

1488
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,200
Oh, we love Thomas Jefferson. 
Give us a shoulder-fired 

1489
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,800
missile. 
We love Thomas Jefferson. 

1490
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:16,500
Can you trust these people? 
Listen carefully? 

1491
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:21,600
Your representatives are sending
500 billion dollars to people 

1492
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:25,200
who will tactically alai with Al
Qaeda. 

1493
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,100
So we asked them, I asked 
secretary Kerry assassin. 

1494
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,200
Where do you get the authority 
to wage this war? 

1495
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:38,700
And he says from 2001? 
Several people fighting weren't 

1496
01:26:38,700 --> 01:26:42,200
born in 2001. 
Many of the people who voted in 

1497
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,100
2001 are no longer living. 
We voted to go to war in 

1498
01:26:46,108 --> 01:26:48,900
Afghanistan, and I supported 
going into that war because we 

1499
01:26:48,900 --> 01:26:51,000
were attacked, and we had to do 
something about it. 

1500
01:26:51,500 --> 01:26:54,900
But the thing is, that vote had 
nothing to do with this. 

1501
01:26:55,200 --> 01:27:00,200
Absolutely nothing to do with 
is, you are a dishonest person. 

1502
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,500
If you say otherwise that sounds
pretty mean-spirited. 

1503
01:27:03,900 --> 01:27:06,300
Hear it again, you are 
intellectually. 

1504
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,100
Dishonest. 
If you argue that something 

1505
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:14,800
passed in 2001 to do with the 
people who attacked us on 9/11, 

1506
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,800
has anything to do with sending 
arms into Syria. 

1507
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,300
The moderate Rebels are fighting
with Al-Qaeda. 

1508
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,800
We could use the 2001 use of 
authorization of force as 

1509
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,200
secretary. 
Kerry understands it, we could 

1510
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,600
use that authorization of force 
to attack the same. 

1511
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,100
People were given the weapons to
think about the insanity of 

1512
01:27:36,108 --> 01:27:39,000
this. 
There are valid reasons for war.

1513
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:42,300
They should be few and far 
between. 

1514
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,800
They should be very importantly,
debated not shuffled into a 

1515
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:50,700
2,000 page Bill and shuffled 
into the rug when we go to war. 

1516
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:54,700
It's the most important vote 
that any Senator will ever take 

1517
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,400
many on the other side have been
better on this issue. 

1518
01:27:58,500 --> 01:28:00,100
When there was a republican in 
office. 

1519
01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:02,700
There were loud voices on the 
other side. 

1520
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,700
I see an empty chamber. 
I'm not sending any broken 

1521
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:08,500
soldiers. 
I'm not sending your son your 

1522
01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:13,200
daughter or mind over to the 
middle of that chaos, the people

1523
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,300
who live there need to stand up 
and fight civilized. 

1524
01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:18,500
Islam needs to say to radical 
Islam. 

1525
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,100
This does not represent our 
religion. 

1526
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,700
That the beheading of civilians 
that rape and killing women does

1527
01:28:25,700 --> 01:28:30,500
not represent Islam. 
The voices aren't loud enough. 

1528
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:40,800
Mr. Speaker under us law. 
It is illegal for you or me or 

1529
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:45,100
any American to provide any type
of assistance to Al Qaeda, Isis,

1530
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:48,300
or other terrorist groups, if we
broke, this law would be thrown 

1531
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:50,600
in jail. 
Yet, the US government's been 

1532
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,000
violating this law for years 
directly and indirectly 

1533
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,100
supporting allies and partners 
of groups like Al Qaeda and Isis

1534
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:01,100
with money weapons intelligence,
and other support in their 

1535
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:05,000
fight, to overthrow the Syrian 
government, a recent New York 

1536
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,900
Times. 
The article confirm that Rebel 

1537
01:29:06,900 --> 01:29:10,200
groups supported by the US quote
have entered into Battlefield 

1538
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,200
alliances with the affiliate of 
Al Qaeda in Syria. 

1539
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,700
Formerly known as on the Sarah, 
The Wall Street Journal reports 

1540
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:20,000
that Rebel groups are quote 
doubling down on their alliance 

1541
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,000
with Al-Qaeda. 
This Alliance has rendered the 

1542
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,400
phrase, moderate Rebels, 
meaningless. 

1543
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,400
We must stop this madness. 
We must stop. 

1544
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,800
Arming terrorists. 
I'm introducing the stop. 

1545
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,200
Arming terrorists act today to 
prohibit taxpayer dollars from 

1546
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,000
being used to support Terrace 
Mr. Speaker. 

1547
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,100
I yield back. 
Potential. 

1548
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:43,600
Downsides. 
They've consequences of arming 

1549
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,900
that some of the moderate rebels
in Syria. 

1550
01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:49,800
When we see reports, like what 
happened just last week that the

1551
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,800
free Syrian Army was apparently 
participating in the Abduction 

1552
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,500
of 40? 
Some UN peacekeepers in the 

1553
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:57,600
Golan Heights. 
Are these the people that we 

1554
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:58,800
want to threat supplied with 
weapons? 

1555
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:04,200
Well, two different things in 
the Ukraine and in Syria, Syria,

1556
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,600
we backed, I Believe, In some 
cases, some of the wrong people 

1557
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,400
and not in the right part of 
Free Syrian Army. 

1558
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,200
And that's a little confusing to
people. 

1559
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,500
So I've always maintained go 
back. 

1560
01:30:15,500 --> 01:30:18,700
Quite some time that we were 
backing the wrong types. 

1561
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:22,000
I think it's going to turn out 
maybe this weekend, and a new 

1562
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,300
special at Red Bears going to 
have Friday. 

1563
01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:27,900
It's going to show some of those
weapons from Benghazi ended up 

1564
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,200
in the hands of Isis. 
So we helped build Isis. 

1565
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,800
Now, there's a danger there and 
I'm with you but in Ukraine, we 

1566
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,900
need to show support in Iraq 
against Syria. 

1567
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,900
And in Iraq, we need to show 
support that. 

1568
01:30:43,900 --> 01:30:47,900
We're going to go and take down.
I believe take down ISIS and we 

1569
01:30:47,900 --> 01:30:51,400
can do that without boosting 
Bashir al-assad. 

1570
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,700
If we backed the right groups 
and we attack those parts of the

1571
01:30:54,700 --> 01:30:58,500
Isis element that are doing the 
attacks into Iraq. 

1572
01:30:58,500 --> 01:31:01,000
That's what we need to focus on 
and we need to do it. 

1573
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,300
Now is that? 
It'll tell Mac and I always 

1574
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:05,100
appreciate your Insight sir. 
Thank you very much. 

1575
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:25,100
Thanks Doug. 
On the morning of April for 

1576
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,700
2017. 
Syrian president Bashar al-assad

1577
01:31:27,700 --> 01:31:29,700
on the verge of a military 
Victory against the terrorist 

1578
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:31,700
Insurgency in this country and 
on the eve of peace talks. 

1579
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:33,800
That would secure his position 
as president decided to use 

1580
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,200
chemical weapons. 
He didn't have against the 

1581
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,200
target of no military 
significance in front of as many

1582
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,200
cameras as possible. 
To cross the one red line, that 

1583
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,000
would ensure his own 
government's downfall soon after

1584
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,600
the Emmy award-winning, white 
helmets. 

1585
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,600
Noted for their oscar-worthy 
performance, has persistent 

1586
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,100
proximity to Al-Qaeda and 
financial dependence on us Aid 

1587
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:49,600
bravely. 
Risked their lives handling, 

1588
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,500
certain victims, barehanded 
against every protocol in the 

1589
01:31:51,508 --> 01:31:54,500
book without presenting a shred 
of evidence President, Donald 

1590
01:31:54,500 --> 01:31:56,800
Trump boldly launched a military
strike against Syria, their 

1591
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,400
field, because National Security
interest promising to help the 

1592
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,100
Beautiful. 
Babies offer does not apply to 

1593
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:07,100
babies and Gaza, Yemen Pakistan 
or basically anywhere else, that

1594
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:09,900
military strike of all your 59, 
tomahawk land-attack, missiles 

1595
01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:12,200
of, which 23 actually made it to
the Target failed to take out a 

1596
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,500
single Runway or even keep the 
air base from operating for even

1597
01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:16,400
24 hours. 
It was a complete success for 

1598
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,400
ExxonMobil Raytheon and Donald 
Trump. 

1599
01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:23,200
No one could question wisdom of 
striking Syria, except Donald 

1600
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:24,600
Trump. 
And no one could oppose such 

1601
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,400
move except Russia, the Trump 
train still convinced by 

1602
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,100
candidate Trump. 
And by listening to guys, like 

1603
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:34,300
Lindsey Graham drop bombs here. 
Drop bombs on a side, drop bombs

1604
01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:36,300
on Isis. 
Oh, but they're fighting each 

1605
01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:38,700
other. 
So maybe we should do that and 

1606
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,300
could you convince Putin to get 
Assad to step aside? 

1607
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:44,100
Well, they've been trying to do 
that. 

1608
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:47,300
Could I don't think it's that 
important to be honest with you?

1609
01:32:47,300 --> 01:32:49,800
I think frankly, let's say you 
get rid of Assad or you knock 

1610
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,800
out that government, who's going
to take over the people that 

1611
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,200
were backing. 
And then you're going to have 

1612
01:32:53,500 --> 01:32:56,900
like, Libya concluded that this 
was 7-dimensional backgammon to 

1613
01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:59,400
make China afraid of the US has 
willingness to spend 100 million

1614
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,900
dollars in a fearsome show of 
failing to destroy a single are 

1615
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:08,600
Old throughout the world. 
People Rejoice is a horrible 

1616
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,400
secular regime in the Middle 
East is replaced by yet. 

1617
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,900
Another peace-loving band of 
ragtag human rights campaigners 

1618
01:33:12,900 --> 01:33:14,700
in child. 
Be headers motivated by a desire

1619
01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:16,100
to subdue. 
The armies of Rome in an 

1620
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:18,100
apocalyptic confrontation in 
dabiq. 

1621
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,400
The chemicals for the previous 
Redline attack in Syria. 

1622
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,000
Have since been proven to come 
from Libya with you as approval,

1623
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,000
but that's probably not relevant
to this case. 

1624
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,100
The CIA has released 
Declassified report after 

1625
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:31,500
Declassified report showing that
the plan to topple, Syria's 

1626
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:33,100
government has been in the works
for decades. 

1627
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:35,900
But this just shows that they 
were right, all along the 

1628
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:37,600
mainstream media. 
Unquestioningly asserts of the 

1629
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,900
story is true because the US 
government says so but that's 

1630
01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:42,200
okay because we all know the MSM
is full of unbiased truth. 

1631
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,700
Tellers and dig hard to get the 
raw facts on every story. 

1632
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:48,100
We see these beautiful pictures 
at night. 

1633
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,600
From the decks of these two US, 
Navy vessels in the Eastern 

1634
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,100
Mediterranean. 
I am tempted to quote, the great

1635
01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:58,500
Leonard. 
And I'm Guided by the beauty of 

1636
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:02,200
our weapons. 
And they are beautiful pictures,

1637
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,000
even members of Congress, think 
the story is a load of hogwash, 

1638
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:07,800
but that's okay because they're 
probably crazy because I don't 

1639
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,400
frankly I don't think Assad 
would have done that. 

1640
01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:14,100
It does not serve his interests.
It would tend to draw us into 

1641
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:17,100
that Civil War even further, who
inside you think? 

1642
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,600
Who do you think is behind it? 
You think you, who do you think 

1643
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:25,400
is behind it? 
Meanwhile, the White House has 

1644
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,500
released a report on its 
Diligence about the chemical 

1645
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:29,900
attack the refutes, his own 
version of the story, but that's

1646
01:34:29,900 --> 01:34:31,000
okay. 
Because when is the White House 

1647
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,300
ever. 
Lied people into war, this man 

1648
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:35,000
doesn't exist. 
And if you think he does, you're

1649
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,000
an enemy of humanity. 
Who should apologize for having 

1650
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:42,100
been born, likewise him, her 
him, and him, and him and her. 

1651
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,500
This is the 100% true story of 
the Syria strikes. 

1652
01:34:45,500 --> 01:34:47,400
And if you support sites, like 
the corporate report that 

1653
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,100
question it in any way, you were
a Moonbeam fake news Tyrant, 

1654
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:51,600
living. 
Hippy Pinko Russian agent and 

1655
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,500
should commit ritual suicide 
immediately. 

1656
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:57,200
If you love your country and or 
Liberty, NASCAR, supermodels TV 

1657
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,700
water, slides, or your mother, 
you will not question this story

1658
01:34:59,700 --> 01:35:04,200
in any way ever. 
This message has been brought to

1659
01:35:04,208 --> 01:35:06,300
you by the friends of the 
Brookings Institute, Raytheon 

1660
01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:09,400
genuine hooded, you know, I see 
Isis in the New York Times 

1661
01:35:09,900 --> 01:35:18,500
because ignorance is strength. 
You have to agree that totally 

1662
01:35:18,500 --> 01:35:21,700
the impeachment inquiry is 
underway sparked. 

1663
01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:25,000
By a complaint from someone 
within the intelligence 

1664
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:30,300
Community needs the president's 
concern and often use term about

1665
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:33,700
a deep State being there to take
it out. 

1666
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:46,700
Thank God for the Deep state. 
Legends officers and White 

1667
01:35:46,700 --> 01:35:48,500
House. 
People trooping up to Capitol 

1668
01:35:48,500 --> 01:35:50,700
Hill right now and saying these 
are people who are doing their 

1669
01:35:50,700 --> 01:35:53,500
Duty who were responding to a 
higher call. 

1670
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,400
It doesn't surprise, I guess it 
doesn't say, well, think about 

1671
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,100
it for a minute with all of the 
people who knew what was going 

1672
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:06,200
on here. 
It took an intelligence 

1673
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,200
operative step officer to step 
forward and say something about 

1674
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:14,700
it, which was the the trigger 
that then Unleashed. 

1675
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:16,000
Everything else. 
Now. 

1676
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,400
Why does that happen? 
What I've tell American people, 

1677
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,000
why that happens is this is the 
institution in the US government

1678
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,100
that with all of its flaws. 
And it makes mistakes is 

1679
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:29,700
institutionally committed to 
objectivity and to telling the 

1680
01:36:29,700 --> 01:36:32,700
truth. 
It is one of the few 

1681
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:35,900
institutions in Washington that 
is not in a chain of command. 

1682
01:36:35,900 --> 01:36:37,300
That makes your implements 
policy. 

1683
01:36:37,300 --> 01:36:39,800
It's whole job is to speak the 
truth. 

1684
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,800
It's engraved in Marble in the 
lobby. 

1685
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,900
This dysfunctional. 
What my constant cry? 

1686
01:36:45,900 --> 01:36:48,300
Was that our biggest problem is 
our allies. 

1687
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,600
Our allies in the region where 
our largest problem in Syria, 

1688
01:36:53,300 --> 01:36:56,100
the Turks were great friends, 
and I have a great relationship 

1689
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:58,000
with our do on which I've just 
spent a lot of time. 

1690
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,000
With the Saudis, the emiratis 
ETC. 

1691
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,200
What were they doing? 
They were so determined to take 

1692
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:11,100
down Assad and essentially have 
a proxy sunni-shia war. 

1693
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,800
What do they do? 
They poured hundreds of millions

1694
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:19,000
of dollars and tens of thousands
of tons of weapons. 

1695
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:24,700
In to anyone who would fight 
against Assad, except that the 

1696
01:37:24,700 --> 01:37:29,000
people who were being who were 
being supplied, Worrell nasarah,

1697
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:34,400
and Al-Qaeda and the extremist 
elements of jihadis coming from 

1698
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,400
other parts of the world. 
Now, you think I'm exaggerating.

1699
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:43,000
Take a look where did all of 
this go? 

1700
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,900
So now, what's happening, all of
a sudden everybody's awakened 

1701
01:37:47,900 --> 01:37:53,400
because this outfit called isil,
which was Al Qaeda in Iraq, 

1702
01:37:53,900 --> 01:37:58,700
which when they were essentially
thrown out of Iraq, found open, 

1703
01:37:58,700 --> 01:38:04,300
space and territory and in 
Western and screaming Eastern 

1704
01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:10,600
Syria work with al-nusra who we 
declared a terrorist group early

1705
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,900
on and we could not convince our
colleagues. 

1706
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,700
To stop supplying them. 
So what happened? 

1707
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:19,300
Now? 
All of a sudden? 

1708
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:22,900
I don't want to be too 
facetious, but they have seen 

1709
01:38:22,900 --> 01:38:26,100
the Lord. 
Now we have been at the 

1710
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:29,200
president's been able to put 
together a coalition of our 

1711
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,400
Sunni neighbors because America 
can't. 

1712
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:36,200
Once again go in to Muslim 
nation and be the aggressor. 

1713
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:43,400
It has to be led by sunnis. 
To go and attack a Sunni 

1714
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,100
organization. 
And so what do we have for the 

1715
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:49,200
first time now? 
Saudi Arabia is stop. 

1716
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,600
The funding going in. 
Saudi Arabia is allowing 

1717
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,900
training on its soil of American
forces. 

1718
01:38:54,900 --> 01:38:58,400
Under title 10, open training, 
the cutter. 

1719
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,900
He's have cut off their support 
for the most extreme elements of

1720
01:39:02,900 --> 01:39:06,900
the terrorist organizations and 
the Turks president. 

1721
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:10,600
Erdogan told me, he's an old 
friend said you were right. 

1722
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,200
We let To many people through. 
Now, they're trying to seal 

1723
01:39:13,200 --> 01:41:06,500
their border. 
We all remember the lies that 

1724
01:41:06,500 --> 01:41:08,400
led the u.s. 
Into the Iraq War. 

1725
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:10,800
I don't think we ever said 
least. 

1726
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,100
I know I didn't say that. 
There was a direct connection 

1727
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:15,700
between September the 11th and 
and Saddam. 

1728
01:41:15,900 --> 01:41:19,000
Saying, Saddam Hussein AIDS and 
protects terrorists. 

1729
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,300
Including members of al-Qaeda 
you have said in the past that 

1730
01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:26,100
it was quote pretty well 
confirmed. 

1731
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:28,900
No, I never said that. 
Okay, I've never said that is 

1732
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,600
absolutely not. 
What I said was, it's been 

1733
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,300
pretty well confirmed that he 
did go to Prague, and he did 

1734
01:41:34,300 --> 01:41:38,000
meet with senior official to 
Iraqi intelligence service. 

1735
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:42,900
It appears that there were not 
weapons of mass destruction. 

1736
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:44,400
There. 
You said, you knew where they 

1737
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,200
were. 
I did not. 

1738
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,600
We know where they are. 
They're in the area around 

1739
01:41:48,700 --> 01:41:52,000
tikrit and Baghdad and And and 
east west south and north 

1740
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:52,700
someone.