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Welcome to Keith Knight. 
Don't tread on anyone in the 

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Libertarian Institute. 
Here is part 5 of my discussion 

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with Stefan Molyneux of Free 
domain.com. 

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Check out the link in the 
description below. 

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Mr. Molyneux, page 43 of your 
book Universally Preferable 

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Behavior says this question of 
avoidance is the key to 

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differentiating aesthetics from 
ethics. 

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Please expand on this. 
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self-contained, self 
referential, and there's 

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absolutely nothing I can repeat 
it in the Latin. 

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That's the best I can do so. 
So this is my book on secular 

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ethics, which is the great 
challenge of trying to find a 

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way to establish morality 
without either the commandments 

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of a deity or the coercion of 
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Because if we can't find out 
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appeal to authority, either the 
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of a state, it's pretty hard to 
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So this question of avoidance is
really, really important. 

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I'm going to just read the 
little bit that has to do with 

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that and we'll talk about it in 
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So I write, if you and I were 
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and I turn to you and say stand 
in front of me so I can push you

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off the Cliff, what would your 
response be? 

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Well, if you do voluntarily 
stand in front of me and I then 

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push you off the Cliff, this 
would more likely be considered 

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a form of suicide on your part 
rather than murder on my part. 

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The reason for this is that you 
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pushed off the Cliff simply by 
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me. 
And a somewhat coarse phrase 

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came into my mind with regards 
to, you know, for purely 

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professional and philosophical 
reasons, I both read and watched

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the movie 50 Shades of Grey. 
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there's a man who beats a woman,
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apparently because he has ABS, a
helicopter and can play the 

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piano. 
I really lost some of the 

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details about all of this. 
And so and they have these, I 

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don't know, weirdly sexy 
contracts, You know, they sit 

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across from the table. 
Am I allowed to do this? 

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What's her safe word? 
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contracts, tiny boobs. 
And so she's not a victim. 

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If a man just beats up a woman 
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not part of her kink or 
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initiating the use of force any 
more than a boxer who beats up 

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another boxer is guilty of 
assault because they're both in 

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the ring and they know what it's
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So if you agree to something, 
you know, I don't know if you've

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ever watched or played hockey, 
but there's an old joke in 

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Canada that I went to a fight 
and a hockey game broke out, 

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right? 
Because it's so central to the 

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game to have all of this 
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So you you accept that you're 
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against the plexiglass from time
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Same thing with rugby, other 
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And or the same thing that if 
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sometimes when the serve comes 
fast, it hits you in the back of

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the head because you're kind of 
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So if you voluntarily choose to 
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cannot be said to be inflicted 
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And so people who are into BDSM 
or some sort of weird hot wax on

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the nipples kind of kink, well, 
it's not assault because they're

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agreeing to it. 
So then I, I think that's fairly

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clear. 
So then I said in the book, 

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similarly, if I meet you in a 
bar and I say I want you to come

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back to my place so I can tie 
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death. 
If you do in fact come back to 

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my place, it is with the 
reasonable knowledge that your 

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longevity will not be enhanced 
by your decision. 

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On the other hand, if I or 
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rape drug into your drink and 
you wake up tied to my bed, it's

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clear that you there's little 
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situation. 
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and aesthetics is this question 
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So you and I have had a date to 
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One of us could have not shown 
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that coercively on the other. 
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avoidance, this is the question 
of politeness or aesthetics 

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versus morality or good and 
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So if when I was a kid, you 
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is is important. 
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attribute. 
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thoughtful of the other person, 
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And it is a kind of virtue, but 
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don't rape people, don't murder 
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or assault them. 
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So if somebody is consistently 
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start meeting with that person. 
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lateness is voluntary. 
They're not enforcing it on you.

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They're not inflicting it on 
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They're not kidnapping you or 
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threatening you or defrauding 
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You could say, well, they said 
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But you know, things happen and 
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And some people are just 
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Lord knows I've been in that 
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life. 
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is really key to the question 
of, of ethics because I needed 

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to find a way to differentiate 
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politeness and moral standards. 
I'm a big one for something that

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Aristotle said, of course, 
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He said, I don't care what your 
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can be used to prove that murder
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wrong with it. 
Like we have these instincts and

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we know that it's rude to be 
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someone for being late, right? 
Because there's a different 

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situation there. 
If somebody's running at you 

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with a chainsaw saying they're 
going to cut your head off, yes,

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you can shoot them, but you 
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late. 
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rude. 
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insulting you. 
You can't shoot them for calling

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you fat. 
You can't shoot them for all the

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kinds of abrasiveness that can 
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shoot them if they're about to 
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bodily harm, I think is the 
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So I had to have a way of 
explaining these moral instincts

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that we have because moral 
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overturned by reason and 
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Because we have these gut senses
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validate them. 
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revulsion towards someone, I 
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inversion. 
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differentiate aesthetics, which 
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which is required behavior. 
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It's more than not nice to try 
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right? 
So I really, really wanted to 

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work with those moral instincts.
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myself by that is that in the at
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universally preferable behavior 
doesn't overturn anything we 

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already know to be true. 
It validates property rights and

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it shows why the big four of 
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are all immoral, which is rape, 
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And so if it validates property 
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sanctity and it justifies 
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you can't shoot someone just for
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inconsiderate. 
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If I do say so, I pat myself on 
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dislodge my microphone. 
Like that's a pretty good job. 

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I've cast all of the I, I've 
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I've crossed all of the TS. 
I've validated our personal or a

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sense of morality that occurs in
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The radical part about UPB is 
the universal part, which we 

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talked about at some point in 
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assault and murder are 
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other words, if universally 
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respect persons and property and
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against their will, how far does
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Well, it's the universal part 
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It goes all the way to war. 
It goes all the way to the 

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state. 
It goes all the way because it's

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universal. 
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have a costume on or a hat on or
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The universals apply. 
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Yes, that's what the law should 
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Yes, that's what morality is. 
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and murder are immoral. 
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justified in situations of in 
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Of course you can't shoot people
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that's what we teach our kids. 
I mean, if our kid said I hit 

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that kid because he was beating 
me, right, and your, your kid 

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has like, I don't know, a black 
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we'd say, well, I'm sorry that 
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Whereas if our kid said I beat 
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late showing up to the park, 
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not a fit. 
Like you can't do that, right? 

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So validating these morals at 
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understand and want the law to 
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all the way out into society 
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parenting, right, the violation 
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such as spanking and so on. 
That's where people have a tough

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time. 
In other words, it takes what 

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they accept at a personal level 
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And that's where people get 
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It's kind of like, like even 
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you throw a frisbee. 
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We all know how to throw and 
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We all understand physics at a 
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We don't try and levitate, I 
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this couple who thinks they have
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keep pushing their hands at 
little pieces of thin tinfoil, 

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and of course the airwaves make 
the tinfoil move and they think 

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they have telekinesis. 
So we all understand physics at 

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a personal level. 
It's when you take those same 

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principles and apply them 
universally that people get kind

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of disoriented. 
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morality. 
So that's really the issue that 

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I was trying to deal with in 
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In your book Art of the 
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rise of the welfare state 
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political correctness. 
When negative consequences for 

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bad decisions are removed, 
information is inevitably 

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repressed. 
Please expand on this. 

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Right, so I'll, I'll try to be 
concise, I'll fail, but I'm, I'm

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just, I'd want everyone to know 
that I'm, I'm at least trying to

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make the effort, however well it
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So why do we have negative 
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Let's take some negative 
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let's say 19th century Victorian
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I took a whole course on this 
Victorian literature. 

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It was really eye opening. 
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prior to the welfare estate, 
when there was a lot of charity,

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Christian charity and so on, but
prior to the rise of the welfare

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estate, you had terms like a 
loose woman, a CAD, a rake, a 

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strumpet. 
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sex, particularly procreative 
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marriage. 
So why did these words exist? 

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Because women who had sex, 
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outside the confines of marriage
back in the day when they had to

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use what a sheep's bladder as a 
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Not only is that gross, but I 
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or safe. 
So you'd have a lot of kids out 

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of wedlock. 
When a woman had a child out of 

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wedlock, no man would marry her 
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reduced to prostitution. 
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dissolution of the bonds within 
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Because easy access to 
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lot of shaky marriages. 
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of sexually transmitted 
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the 19th century prior to the 
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terrible. 
I mean, if you there's a sort of

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theory that Friedrich Nietzsche 
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encounter with a prostitute and 
then he got syphilis, which is a

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horrifying disease. 
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in his Plague Ghosts, that the 
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rotting disease, was just 
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pleasure outside of the marital 
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prostitution. 
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other marriages. 
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wrecks marriages. 
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a criminal element who himself 
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turning out to be a criminal. 
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minutes of sex on society as a 
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catastrophic. 
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at the time, some very strong 
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having sex outside of marriage 
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outside of marriage. 
And of course, there are endless

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novels written in the both the 
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designed to help women figure 
out which man wants to marry 

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them and which man just wants to
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them. 
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CAD literature, the the harlot, 
the strumpet, and so on was all 

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very, very clear. 
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consequences of single 
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and so corrosive to society as a
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pretty strong language to 
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relentless punishment of people 
who stepped out of line in order

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to prevent other people from 
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Like there was a poster, I 
actually had it with my 

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wallpaper many years ago when I 
was in the business world, which

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was there were these 
motivational posters like the 

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kittens saying, you know, hang 
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Wednesday or whatever. 
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posters, which I thought were 
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just going straight down. 
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be that the only purpose of your
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others. 
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outcomes, the temptation on the 
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you don't do this stuff. 
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part is a little bit like, well,
she made a mistake, should she 

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suffer forever? 
We've got to help her. 

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You know, that kind of stuff, 
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political power, you get the 
welfare state, as we've sort of 

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talked about before. 
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language. 
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which we don't really hear of 
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And spinster when I was growing 
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word. 
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the Tennessee Williams play The 
Glass Menagerie, about these 

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women who they're mousy women. 
They just hide in attics, in 

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houses. 
They get shuffled from place to 

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But they've got no husband, 
They've got no savings, They've 

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got no life of their own. 
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for women that particularly 
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men on average, that you should 
get a man, you should get some 

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savings, you should set yourself
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And, you know, it's a long way 
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to the, you know, 40 to 85 
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happens to women if they age 
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So we had all of this language 
that was quite strong now. 

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And to the welfare state, 
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liability to an asset That is 
one of the biggest reversals in 

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all of human history. 
And we're still reeling from the

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shock of this because since 
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liability, they consume time, 
energy, sleep, money, other 

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kinds of resources. 
You need somebody to provide 

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those resources in a private 
charity state. 

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That person who provides those 
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bonded married husband for for 
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So the welfare estate, by 
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liabilities to assets, meant 
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income by having children and 
not having the father around. 

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One of the standards that was 
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the welfare estate is you can't 
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And I remember many years ago, I
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when she was quite little, and I
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each other. 
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afternoon, so the work day for 
most people. 

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But I do philosophy on 
philosophies and inspirations 

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hours. 
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yes, you know, well, if you have
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this program and this benefit. 
And then there's this housing 

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vouchers. 
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And they knew the whole 
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welfare estate. 
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have a kid and he's on 
disability and that can just be 

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something that's ADHD, you get 
an extra $600 a month. 

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And they were just calmly 
discussing the best ways to milk

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the system by having children 
without a husband around. 

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And that is a big problem now. 
So the reason we have this 

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negative language is to steer 
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are bad for society as a whole. 
But they can't just be idle and 

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empty threats. 
So in the past, before divorce 

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became normalized through the 
media, if a woman left a man or 

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if a man left a woman, they 
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social circle. 
Because I mean, divorce is 

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spread, right? 
And you, you, if a woman is 

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going through a divorce, all of 
her friends are going to start 

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looking at their own husbands in
a escance way because the 

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woman's going to justify it. 
And usually with regards to male

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chauvinist pig ideology 
paranoia. 

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So if a woman was getting a 
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would no longer be welcome in 
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hadn't stuck it through, she'd 
chosen a man. 

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couples who broke up were doing,
but perceived to be in this data

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to back this up were perceived 
to be doing enormously selfish 

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behaviors that harmed their 
children. 

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And they were shunned. 
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people didn't want the divorces 
to spread as a social contagion.

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And also because their children 
were likely to be dysfunctional 

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both at the time and possibly in
the future because of the trauma

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and upset of their parents going
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So you wouldn't necessarily want
your kids playing with a kid who

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was going through some 
horrendous, stressful divorce 

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from his parents because there 
may be aggression or dysfunction

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involved in that. 
So there were lots of and so 

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people stuck together because 
there were hugely negative 

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consequences for breaking up. 
And of course, in the States 

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prior to the 1940's, the the 
children went with the husband 

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went with the father and the 
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So there was a big incentive to 
stay together. 

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Now did that mean some people 
stayed in abusive relationships?

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Well, sure. 
Well, sure. 

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And is that good? 
No, that's really not good. 

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But what's the alternative? 
You have a massive, ugly, brutal

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divorce. 
Kids get kicked out of their 

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social circles. 
The parents can't socialize. 

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There's a huge amount of trauma 
to the kids. 

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All you're doing is shifting the
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each other to children who 
didn't choose the situation at 

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all. 
And that scarcely seems fair. 

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So political correctness then 
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parts, this is sort of one of 
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Political correctness came about
because shaming language lost 

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its power because the negative 
outcomes were buried under money

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printing in debt. 
So there are massive negative 

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outcomes for the children of 
single mothers. 

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And I've got a whole 
presentation, The Truth about 

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Single Mothers, which you can 
peruse at your leisure, but I 

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won't get into the details here.
You can look up these 

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statistics. 
They're absolutely appalling, 

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but they're not immediate. 
What happens is it has so some 

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woman becomes a single mother or
is is a single mother, which is 

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not the same as a widow, a widow
as a. 

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A divorcee is a woman who was 
married. 

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A widow is a woman whose husband
died. 

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A single mother is unmarried at 
the time of birth. 

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So the negative effects of 
children who grew up in single 

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mother households, from female 
promiscuity to male aggression, 

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are legion. 
But they're diffused, and they 

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only happen later, right? 
The scene versus the unseen. 

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One of the basic principles of 
economics. 

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And so if you criticized single 
mothers in the past, it made 

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perfect sense because they were 
massively dysfunctional. 

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Their kids were going through 
hell. 

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They had often become 
prostitutes, They weren't 

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welcoming a polite society and 
so on. 

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So you would criticize that and 
be like, well, yeah, that makes 

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sense. 
That's exactly the way things 

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are playing out. 
And so you'd warn people away. 

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But when single mothers get, and
I did a show on this many years 

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ago, it's called the Welfare 
Cliff, which is a woman with two

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children in America at the time,
this is many years ago, got the 

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equivalent of $80,000 worth of 
benefits. 

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Both direct subsidies, 
subsidized housing, free 

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healthcare, dental care and so 
on. 

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So she got the equivalent of 
$80,000. 

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And what that meant is that when
she worked her, her benefits 

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would be deducted, right? 
So she made $10,000. 

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Her benefits would be reduced by
$10,000. 

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And what that meant was that she
effectively faced 100% tax rate 

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until she made 80,000, right? 
And if she makes 85,000, it's 

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like a 98% tax rate. 
So she would have to make 

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hundreds of thousands of dollars
in order to make up to make more

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money than she was getting for 
free. 

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And that keeps people trapped in
poverty. 

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And now we have 3 or 4 
generations in the West of 

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people. 
Their entire clan has basically 

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never had jobs. 
They don't know much about the 

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workplace and they've adapted to
that way of living. 

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And so if you criticize single 
mothers or loose behavior at a 

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time when the negative 
consequence of that behavior is 

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completely obvious to society, 
it's a reasonable criticism. 

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But if everybody seems to be 
doing fine, then you are just, 

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you just hate single moms. 
You're just prejudice. 

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You're just uneasy, you're just 
insecure. 

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You're just a misogynist, right?
Because it seems to be OK. 

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And it seems to be OK because 
taxation, money printing and 

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borrowing is wallpapering up the
giant holes in the future in 

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temporarily doesn't make the 
structure anymore sound. 

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In fact it weakens it even more.
But then what happens is because

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the problems are covered up 
through debt and deferred down 

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to the future where it becomes 
more diffuse and hard to figure 

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out, then it looks like you're 
just hostile. 

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You're just negative to to 
people and you just hate people.

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And therefore you can't use this
term and you can't use that term

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'cause it's offensive and it's 
upsetting and it's negative. 

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And so this whole political 
correctness comes out because 

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the negative effects of bad 
decisions are shifted to the 

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future, right? 
Shifted to people who are going 

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to be preyed upon by criminals 
coming out of the single mother 

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households, which is of course 
not 100%, but it sure ain't 

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zero. 
It's shifted to the future in 

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terms of debt and so on. 
And so we can't say negative 

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things about negative decisions 
because those negative decisions

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are wallpapered over by debt and
money printing theft really and 

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diffuse down to the future. 
And so now you're just 

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prejudiced and you just don't 
like and this. 

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So all of this stuff came about 
in a way to the sort of language

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policing is because the language
policing was for disastrous that

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are now invisible to most 
people, and therefore the 

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language appears to be just 
hostile or prejudicial or 

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misogynistic or something like 
that. 

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It's like, well, no, we're 
actually desperately trying to 

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save society from some very bad 
outcomes, but those bad outcomes

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are only visible to the 
knowledgeable and perceptive, 

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not to the average person, if 
that makes sense. 

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Absolutely. 
What would you say to a guy who 

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says I'm lonely? 
I've never had a girlfriend, I 

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feel like my life has no 
purpose, nobody loves me and I 

450
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,440
just want to kill myself. 
Yeah. 

451
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,800
You know, I was with you there 
because I get a lot of these 

452
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,000
calls in the call insurance. 
Just for the record, if somebody

453
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,720
says to me that they're 
suicidal, I will tell them to 

454
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,280
call a hotline to get a 
therapist to, you know, go to 

455
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,760
emerge if they're feeling 
suicidal. 

456
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,600
However, you know, it does 
sometimes come up over the 

457
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,760
course of a conversation that 
somebody has self-destructive 

458
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,840
tendencies. 
So you know, the usual caveats. 

459
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,040
I'll say I'm obviously a mental 
health professional, not a 

460
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,480
psychiatrist, not a 
psychologist. 

461
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,960
So I am a moral philosopher in 
particular. 

462
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:54,960
So I don't have any subject 
matter expertise in this. 

463
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,480
So these are just my amateur 
opinions with, you know, some 

464
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,840
reinforcement of a lot of 
conversations I've had over the 

465
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,080
years in the show and and 
privately. 

466
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,680
So people don't want to kill 
themselves. 

467
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,880
This is not something that 
generates spontaneously within 

468
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,040
the mind of someone. 
Can you imagine, evolutionarily 

469
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,680
speaking, it's like, well, I I 
could eat and and exercise and 

470
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,840
reproduce and or I could just 
jump off a Cliff right there. 

471
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,320
There isn't really a jump off 
the Cliff evolutionary pressure 

472
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,280
because those who had 
spontaneously internally 

473
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,880
developed suicidal ideation. 
Well, they wouldn't reproduce, 

474
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,920
or if they did reproduce their 
children, it wouldn't do very 

475
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,360
well. 
So there'd be a downward drag on

476
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,800
that, and that would be weeded 
out. 

477
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:46,280
So then the question is, OK, if 
it doesn't evolve in an 

478
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,040
evolutionary standpoint, he said
somewhat repetitively. 

479
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,840
But if it doesn't arise out of 
evolution, where does it come 

480
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,880
from? 
Now, I remember reading a 

481
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,080
psychiatrist many years ago, his
anecdotes and so on. 

482
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,720
So all the caveats in the world,
but he said in his decades of 

483
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,720
practicing suicidal people, 
every single person he met who 

484
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,200
was suicidal, who he treated, 
had internal parental voices 

485
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,600
telling them to kill themselves.
And you've seen this on the 

486
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Internet, Kys, right? 
I mean, it's one of the things 

487
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,160
that people constantly trying to
like weird voodoo cast a bad 

488
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,680
spell on people. 
So why is it that somebody would

489
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,280
have in their mind the 
completely anti evolutionary, 

490
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,680
anti happiness thought of 
killing themselves? 

491
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,120
So I'll tell you what I think. 
Obvious nonsense. 

492
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:40,040
I don't have any proof, just an 
amateur opinion. 

493
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,640
There are a lot of crimes that 
go on in a family. 

494
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,920
There are a lot of crimes that 
go on in families. 

495
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:51,720
I mean, pedophilia is one in 
three girls and one in five boys

496
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,800
and the number could be even 
higher. 

497
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Now, this is not one in three 
families because pedophiles 

498
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,200
often have hundreds of victims. 
So there's pedophilia, There is 

499
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,160
what else we got drug use, of 
course, even drunk driving, 

500
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,360
which is criminal. 
There is violence against 

501
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,240
children more so than just the 
spanking violence and beatings 

502
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,440
against spouses. 
There is theft, there is fraud 

503
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,760
and all all kinds of terrible 
things that happen. 

504
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,040
There are children who've 
witnessed direct violent crimes 

505
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,000
such as assault, murder and 
rape. 

506
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,680
So there are crimes in a lot of 
families. 

507
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,240
Now, if we look at the criminal 
paradigm, let's say that you are

508
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,920
unfortunate enough to witness a 
crime by an organized crime 

509
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,400
gang. 
So the mafia or something like 

510
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,960
that. 
And they know that you've seen 

511
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,160
it, right? 
They they know that you are a 

512
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,360
witness to a crime. 
So what do they do? 

513
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Well, if you are the witness to,
I mean, it could be any 

514
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,280
criminal, but organized crime is
the one we'd probably be most 

515
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600
familiar with. 
If you're witness to a crime, 

516
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,440
the perpetrator will threaten 
you that if you go to the 

517
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,480
police, he'll kill you and your 
family and whatever, right? 

518
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,800
So if you witness a crime, you 
are threatened with death. 

519
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,320
Should you talk? 
So if we look at the fact that 

520
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,680
there are a substantial number 
of crimes occurring within 

521
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,080
families and the children are 
the witnesses to those crimes 

522
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,280
and often, of course, the 
victims, what are they told? 

523
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,680
They're told if you talk, what 
do they say? 

524
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,240
I mean, I've heard this from a 
number of people, right? 

525
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,000
So what are the criminal 
perpetrators of these crimes? 

526
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,800
If they're parents, it could be 
other people in the family who 

527
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,840
just talk about parents from 
now. 

528
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,120
What do they say to the 
children? 

529
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,800
They say, well, if you talk, 
you're dead. 

530
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,880
If you talk, you're going to get
taken away and put into foster 

531
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,640
care, which for a, a child is 
the equivalent of, of death in 

532
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,240
terms of like their stability 
and sense of survival and so on 

533
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,760
and safety. 
So there is, or you know, if, 

534
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,320
if, if you talk, daddy or 
mommy's going to go to jail and 

535
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
then watch, right? 
And then the child feels that 

536
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880
there's no protection, there's 
no security, there's no safety. 

537
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,400
So there are a lot of threats 
made against children by 

538
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,080
criminals within a family 
structure. 

539
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,200
It could be elsewhere, right? 
But it most commonly it would be

540
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,920
within the family structure. 
That doesn't always mean 

541
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,480
parents, you know, it could be 
extended family, cousins, 

542
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,400
uncles, aunts, grandparents. 
But you know, we sort of 

543
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,760
understand we don't have to go 
through all the radiating levels

544
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,680
of genetic proximity. 
So if there are a lot of crimes 

545
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:37,160
in families and the general 
methodology of dealing with a 

546
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,360
witness to a crime is to 
threaten them to death if they 

547
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:45,280
talk, then what happens is 
people get into adulthood and 

548
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,440
they want to talk about the pain
that they've suffered. 

549
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:54,160
They want to share with others 
the horrors of their childhood. 

550
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,880
But then what happens is when 
they want to talk. 

551
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,960
Because one of the ways that you
keep people quiet is you isolate

552
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,120
them, right? 
This is why you say I'm lonely. 

553
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,520
This is the quote you gave, 
right? 

554
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,600
I'm lonely. 
I've never had a girlfriend. 

555
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680
Well, if you are witness to a 
crime and your parents are 

556
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,920
criminals, they don't want you 
getting close to anyone, they 

557
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,680
don't want you having friends, 
they don't want you having 

558
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,160
sleepovers, they don't want you 
having a girlfriend because you 

559
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,200
might talk. 
So I view in general by tons of 

560
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,080
exceptions, but I view people 
with this kind of loneliness, 

561
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,960
isolation and suicidality. 
I would assume my first 

562
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
assumption doesn't mean it's 
accurate all the time of course,

563
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:42,240
but my first assumption is they 
witnessed or were the victims of

564
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,600
genuine crimes that everybody 
would accept would be illegal 

565
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,840
and would deserve jail time. 
I don't just mean like spanking 

566
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,320
and stuff like that, which I 
consider wrong, but most people 

567
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,160
would say or you know, like the 
genuine like if if it was on 

568
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000
video, the parent would go to 
jail. 

569
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,440
So I think that that is what is 
probably occurring. 

570
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:09,000
At least that's the first thing 
that I would go to as a 

571
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320
methodology to try to figure out
why. 

572
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,520
It's not that you just want to 
kill yourself, it's that you 

573
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000
have a problem. 
Your life is horrifying because 

574
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,120
you're isolated. 
But in order to break that 

575
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,800
isolation, it brings up death 
threats in your mind. 

576
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,320
And so I think that's a lot of 
the torture that people are 

577
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,960
going through. 
And again, I don't want to over 

578
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,840
caveat this, but this is just my
opinion. 

579
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160
I've certainly had some 
conversations along these lines,

580
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,960
and that would be my first port 
of call if I was talking to 

581
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,000
someone about this just sort of 
in my personal life. 

582
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,040
But that would be my first 
approach, if that makes sense. 

583
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,480
Yes, Sir. 
So I would like to give Mr. 

584
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Molyneux a break and just share 
some thoughts on Kamala Harris 

585
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,520
finally extended the web page 
that she has and now actually 

586
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,240
lists the issues that she would 
like to talk about. 

587
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Now, I'm not going to get into 
the specifics, but here are the 

588
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,600
major takeaways to save the 
audience some time. 

589
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Voluntary contracts are 
exploitative, but the state 

590
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,120
imposing unilateral obligations 
on millions of people by legal 

591
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800
Fiat is a totally valid social 
contract. 

592
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Force cotton picking is 
inherently immoral, but force 

593
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,400
military conscription for 
Vladimir Zelensky is totally 

594
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600
good. 
We want to empower the working 

595
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200
class, but school choice should 
be illegal. 

596
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,840
You might owe reparations for 
something you never engaged in, 

597
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,840
but violent criminals today are 
really just victims of past 

598
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
injustice. 
Riots are the voice of the 

599
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,520
unheard, but January 6th was the
worst thing since the 30 Years 

600
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280
War. 
So when you are faced with all 

601
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,520
of these contradictions, the 
best thing that I think people 

602
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,400
could do is check out two 
websites. 

603
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,480
One is Libertarian 
institute.org, 2 is Free 

604
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,120
domain.com. 
I want to give 10 lessons I have

605
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,080
learned from freedomain.com 
along with these books on truth,

606
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,960
the tyranny of illusion, 
everyday anarchy, and practical 

607
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,920
anarchy. 
So lesson #1 the importance of 

608
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,720
free association, 
disassociation, and having your 

609
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,720
own standards. 
This applies to friends, family,

610
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120
commercial interactions, and 
politics. 

611
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,240
Free domain really gave me the 
confidence to not have double 

612
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,680
standards, whether it's for my 
neighbor or for someone like 

613
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Lindsey Graham #2 taking the 
implications of arguments. 

614
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,200
I had this pink haired Bolshevik
the other day tell me you 

615
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,800
shouldn't tell people what to 
do. 

616
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,080
And I had to just pause and 
laugh asking her, did you just 

617
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,160
tell me not to do something in 
the form of telling me to tell 

618
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,280
other people not what to do and 
what not to do? 

619
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Having this confidence really 
allowed me to discuss political 

620
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,640
issues without a heightened 
sense of insecurity #3 start 

621
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:09,000
small with what you can control.
One of my favorite Molyneux or 

622
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,000
ants ever was he goes, If you 
can't lift a cup of coffee, 

623
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,239
please don't pretend to tell me 
that you can lift a building. 

624
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,400
So starting with something 
small, that which is in your 

625
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,840
control is really important. 
The other really good one he had

626
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,960
was it before you try and change
the world and or change the 

627
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,199
political system and turn it 
against its own interests, could

628
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:37,320
you take a Jane Austen book club
and turn that book club against 

629
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,920
Jane Austen? 
Start small, start local. 

630
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,000
The next one, use precise 
language, Nikki Haley said the 

631
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,520
other day. 
I don't agree with the President

632
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,600
on everything. 
Well, of course no one agrees 

633
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,719
with everyone on everything. 
This was something Mr. Molyneux 

634
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,120
would constantly point out to 
us. 

635
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,480
And once you see the imprecise 
language that morons use to 

636
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,480
arouse the passions of the 
feeble minded and keep them 

637
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,480
asleep, now it's just 
everywhere. 

638
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,400
Next one holding people 
accountable to their face. 

639
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,080
There was a guy, well remotely, 
but in a conversation the 

640
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,480
gentleman was asked by Mr. 
Molyneux, So at this point, what

641
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,720
would it take for you to break 
up with your girlfriend? 

642
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,240
He goes well, if if she ever 
really violated my trust to 

643
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,440
which step on said well, she 
cheated on you and gave you an 

644
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,120
STD, so are you going to break 
up with her or just move the 

645
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,160
goal post? 
And it was like, oh, I never 

646
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,520
thought of someone actually, you
know, holding someone 

647
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,160
accountable like that. 
This is something I'd only say a

648
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,680
day later to someone else in the
confidence of my own home. 

649
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680
That is really important. 
Next, the importance of 

650
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,760
analogies, isolating variables, 
allowing people to extract a 

651
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,680
principle under circumstances 
which they don't have emotional 

652
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680
connections to. 
This is why I use the example of

653
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,920
the Catholic Church doing 
everything the state does in my 

654
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,920
book, Domestic Imperialism. 
Very important. 

655
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,640
Next, the importance of social 
ostracism and public 

656
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,920
declarations of disapproval. 
It was just amazing hearing 

657
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,960
adults that I know say things 
like, well, you can't say X. 

658
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,040
When you say you can't, do you 
mean the words don't actually 

659
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,080
exit your mouth? 
And they're like, well, you'll 

660
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,080
get a lot of eye rolls and and 
people might raise their voice. 

661
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,120
And so that's what I mean by 
can't. 

662
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,600
So they put this on the same 
level as like you can't flap 

663
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,360
your arms and fly and you can't 
address issues like Hey, you 

664
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,840
shouldn't hit your kids to one 
of your friends who is an 

665
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,240
abusive parent. 
Next the against me argument. 

666
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Raising the emotional 
opportunity cost of holding an 

667
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,880
immoral belief decreases the 
person's confidence in it. 

668
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Thus they're less likely to 
passionately spread it, 

669
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,240
decreasing its power of social 
proof. 

670
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,560
This against me argument is very
important. 

671
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560
It gets people out of the realm 
of hypothetically. 

672
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Theoretically, I think things 
like taxation and conscription 

673
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,280
are OK. 
Asking people, you want me to be

674
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,880
enslaved, forced labor to go to 
Ukraine to keep Zelensky on the 

675
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,280
throne, That's what you think 
should happen and I should be 

676
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,640
caged for not doing this. 
If I like Yanukovych more, 

677
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,240
that's what should happen to me.
You're advocating that very 

678
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,440
powerful stuff. 
Next, selective anger as a 

679
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
litmus test. 
Growing up, I thought there were

680
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,440
two types of people, people who 
got angry and people who didn't.

681
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,200
freedomain.com really taught me 
that there was actually a 

682
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,560
standard that you should have 
for things that should make you 

683
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,360
angry and things that you should
first talk through or just 

684
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,680
constantly remain calm on. 
So the ability to properly 

685
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,600
discriminate a good time for 
when anger should be used, 

686
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,960
because if you use it all the 
time, it's like inflation. 

687
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,240
If you print a ton of it, then 
it's worthless. 

688
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,960
If you're always angry, then you
never know what's really 

689
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,080
important. 
Finally this. 

690
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,080
I had to choose one of my 
favorite quotes. 

691
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,880
This one might be the best. 
Death is coming. 

692
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Either way, living small ain't 
going to save you from death. 

693
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,360
It just makes every day a little
more like dying. 

694
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,760
That is a number of lessons I've
learned as a student of Mr. 

695
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Molyneux for these years. 
Been waiting maybe six years or 

696
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,760
so to tell him that. 
So I thought that today would be

697
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,480
today would be a good day. 
Next question for Mr. Molyneux. 

698
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,840
We're running low on time, so I 
just want to keep going. 

699
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,840
You have the ability to send 
every person on earth a free 

700
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,760
copy of one book. 
Which book would you choose and 

701
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,640
why? 
Well, first of all, I appreciate

702
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,200
you summing up so beautifully. 
A lot of great lessons. 

703
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,880
Thank you. 
Thank you. 

704
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,400
That's very, very kind. 
So I was obviously it's going to

705
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,120
be one of my books because if I 
thought there was another better

706
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,320
book, I wouldn't have written 
stuff. 

707
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,880
So I was like, oh, it should be 
UPB, universally preferable 

708
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,000
behaviour, a ration of proof of 
secular ethics. 

709
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,440
But instead I ended up settling 
on my book, Real time 

710
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,960
relationships, the Logic of 
love. 

711
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:13,360
Because real time relationships 
is about how to be honest and 

712
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,360
direct and clear in 
relationships in real time, 

713
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,080
right? 
So if you get angry with 

714
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,520
someone, you don't say, well, 
you're just an A hole and you 

715
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,240
just did bad things and you're 
just terrible. 

716
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,480
And right, you say I feel angry 
at you. 

717
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,360
I'm not saying I know why I 
don't maybe don't know why, but 

718
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,160
I have this experience of 
emotion towards you. 

719
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,800
I'm angry at you because people 
always jump into I'm angry at 

720
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,000
you, therefore you did something
wrong, Therefore you did 

721
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,080
something bad or rude or immoral
in in the same way people to 

722
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,720
say, well, I'm offended, 
therefore you're offensive. 

723
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,680
And it's like, no, that's not, 
that's not logically what 

724
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,880
follows. 
Your emotions are not mind 

725
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,480
reading omniscient scans of 
other people. 

726
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,960
There are people who annoy me 
and sometimes it's because they 

727
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,520
have a bad habit that I have and
I'm actually annoyed at my own 

728
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,920
bad habit, right? 
So there are people who annoy me

729
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,760
or anger me because they remind 
me of someone in the past who 

730
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,320
did something negative and 
therefore I'm doing it to do 

731
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,240
with that, right? 
Somebody could annoy me because 

732
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,080
they have been annoying me for a
while. 

733
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,080
And I haven't said anything 
about it. 

734
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,880
In other words, I've lied by 
omission. 

735
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,400
And therefore they do 1 little 
thing and I just blow up, you 

736
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,200
know? 
And that's the result of prior 

737
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,000
dishonesty. 
So being honest with people in 

738
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,520
real time, really honest, which 
is to not jump to conclusions, 

739
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,360
not jumping to conclusions is 
really, really key in 

740
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,320
relationships. 
So if something my daughter is 

741
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
doing bothers me, I'll say what 
you're doing is bothering me. 

742
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,280
I don't know you're doing 
anything wrong. 

743
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,880
But I actually do feel kind of 
bothered. 

744
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,200
I wonder why, right? 
And that that's important, 

745
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,800
right? 
That's important. 

746
00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:00,920
So honesty and humility, honesty
and accuracy, honesty and not 

747
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,120
jumping to conclusions. 
Jumping to conclusions is 

748
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,840
demanding that other people 
manage your own emotions. 

749
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,160
So people who get triggered or 
offended or upset, they're 

750
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,200
openly saying I can't manage my 
emotions therefore it's your job

751
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,240
to change your behaviour, right?
I don't like this argument, it 

752
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,920
makes me feel anxious and 
uncomfortable. 

753
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,360
So you need to stop making this 
argument. 

754
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,840
This data bothers me deeply. 
So stop bothering me with your 

755
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,240
data and shut up. 
But this is censorship. 

756
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,160
So if you can't manage your own 
emotions, which means have them,

757
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,720
but don't expect them to be 
tyrant demands on other people's

758
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,960
behaviors. 
If you can't manage your own 

759
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,440
emotions, you end up having to 
be tyrannical to everyone around

760
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,440
you, and that is really 
terrible. 

761
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,840
Where does the real tyranny come
from? 

762
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,160
And the real tyranny doesn't 
usually come down from the state

763
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,400
to the individual, at least on a
free speech sense. 

764
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,600
The most tyranny comes from not 
wanting to upset those around 

765
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,080
you. 
And it's not that we are too 

766
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,280
bothered by upsetting people 
around us. 

767
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,240
It's because the people around 
us, often, if we upset them, 

768
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,480
they will absolutely demand that
we change our behavior. 

769
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,400
And as we can see from 
censorship, that is a pattern 

770
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,840
that grows and grows and grows 
until it eclipses the very 

771
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,920
heavens itself and turns their 
entire social discourse into 

772
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,480
silent darkness. 
Because it doesn't stop. 

773
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,760
If somebody says, well, it 
bothers me when you make this 

774
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,560
argument, so you better stop 
making this argument. 

775
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,040
You're like, OK, I'll stop 
making this argument. 

776
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:29,920
You've weakened them. 
You haven't strengthened them. 

777
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,240
You haven't taught them anything
about how to deal with their own

778
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,440
emotions. 
All you've done is you've taught

779
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,560
them that if anybody makes them 
uncomfortable, it's not their 

780
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,120
job to deal with their own 
discomfort. 

781
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,840
It's the other person's job to 
change their behavior. 

782
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,760
That never, it's never going to 
end it. 

783
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,520
It always, always, always 
escalates because people who 

784
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,840
don't have power over themselves
desperately want power over 

785
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,200
others. 
And the more they get to 

786
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,280
exercise power over others, the 
more their lust for power 

787
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,200
increases. 
Like power is an addiction. 

788
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,320
It's not like food, it's like 
bulimia, right? 

789
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,080
It's not like exercise. 
It's like anorexia and there is 

790
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,480
no particular limit to an 
addiction other than death 

791
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,640
absolutely hitting bottom or 
having some kind of self 

792
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,320
knowledge journey where you get 
to the root of the issue. 

793
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,800
So I would say to people, the 
real time relationships tells 

794
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,360
you how to be honest with your 
own thoughts and feelings, how 

795
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,840
to genuinely connect with other 
people without being aggressive 

796
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,200
towards them. 
And in this way, you lose the 

797
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,960
desire to control other people 
because you actually have 

798
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
management over yourself. 
So you know how it works in 

799
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,240
relationships. 
We can go a little bit over, I 

800
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,040
know I'm talking a lot, but you 
know how it works in 

801
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,960
relationships. 
You know, the wife says to the 

802
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,760
husband, oh, well, why, why 
don't you ever put away the 

803
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,160
dishes from the dishwasher, 
right? 

804
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,360
She gets really, really angry. 
We, we know it's not about the 

805
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,120
dishwasher, but she's pretending
that it is. 

806
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,640
And the level of emotional upset
is way too high because of the 

807
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
dishwasher. 
And so they end up arguing about

808
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,240
the dishwasher. 
She has to escalate to hide the 

809
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,840
fact that it's crazy to argue 
this much about the dishwasher. 

810
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,440
And they end up arguing about 
something that's not the real 

811
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,880
issue. 
What is the real issue? 

812
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,840
I've been, it could be any 
number of things, but it, it 

813
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,640
ain't the dishwasher. 
So Real Time Relationships is a 

814
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,280
book that again, it's free, a 
free demand.com/books Real Time 

815
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,480
Relationships will teach you how
to be honest. 

816
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,360
When I open the dishwasher and 
the dishes are full, it bothers 

817
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,120
me. 
I'm angry. 

818
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,960
I'm angry at you. 
And then everyone normally 

819
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,160
interprets I'm angry at you as I
did something wrong or you're 

820
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,640
being irrationally angry at me, 
right? 

821
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,200
So you either apologize, which 
doesn't solve the problem 'cause

822
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,600
it's not about the dishwasher, 
or you get mad back 'cause it's 

823
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,320
like, well, come on, I did this.
I mowed the lawn yesterday and 

824
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,840
you didn't do this the other 
day, right? 

825
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,000
I mean, you've probably seen 
these videos of a, a woman 

826
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,040
complaining about a man's 
clutter somewhere in the house 

827
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,480
and then he goes up to the sink 
where there's like 6,000,000 

828
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,600
voodoo bottles of eternal youth 
and so on. 

829
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,240
So just to get people to talk 
about the actual issues, I'm, 

830
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,960
I'm upset you did this and then 
I got upset. 

831
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Not even I'm upset with you. 
You did this and it bothered me.

832
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,440
You got, you did this and I felt
angry. 

833
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,200
You did this and I got anxious. 
I don't know why. 

834
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,200
And then you can explore it 
together without blame, without 

835
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,400
attack, and you can actually 
build that bond because that's 

836
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,640
where trust is. 
Trust exists where you're not 

837
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,920
blamed for other people's moods.
Maybe you just need a Snickers 

838
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,960
bar. 
I don't know. 

839
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,920
It could be any number of 
things. 

840
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,960
So I think when you have honesty
in that kind of relationship, 

841
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,920
and this is particularly true 
parents to children, when you 

842
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,400
have honesty in your 
relationships and you lose the 

843
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,760
thirst to control, dominate, 
bully and blame others for your 

844
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,640
emotional states, then you begin
to undo the sort of tightly 

845
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,920
wound, escalating tyranny that 
goes on in people's hearts when 

846
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,040
they blame other people for what
they themselves feel and and 

847
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,400
believe genuinely that the best 
way to manage their own feelings

848
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,640
is to order other people around,
like the Vermacht. 

849
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,760
And that's just escalating 
tyranny, which happens at a 

850
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,600
personal level and then people 
accept it more at a social and 

851
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,680
political level. 
That is such a great lesson, 

852
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,440
initiating humility. 
This is bothering me. 

853
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,520
I don't know why can we talk 
about it versus you're wrong and

854
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200
I'm right that is? 
You're the reason I feel this 

855
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,880
way. 
You have to change your behavior

856
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,920
because you what you're doing is
upsetting and offensive to me. 

857
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,240
And it's like, whoa, I thought 
we were supposed to be in love. 

858
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Why are you blaming me for 
feeling bad? 

859
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,960
Next topic, people who advocate 
the government coercively 

860
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,880
running every aspect of 
everyone's life will frequently 

861
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,880
tell me it's wrong to just walk 
up to people and tell them about

862
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,240
the keto diet or the non 
aggression principle. 

863
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,960
Why do you think so many people 
blatantly hold this specific 

864
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,400
contradiction? 
It's good for authorities to 

865
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,000
have violently imposed 
standards, and they shame other 

866
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,520
people for having voluntary 
standards. 

867
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Well, I think it's related to 
the thing we talked about 

868
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,280
before. 
So if you go up to talk to 

869
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,560
people about the keto diet, then
they assume that you're calling 

870
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,080
them fat, They get upset, they 
call you rude and maybe they do 

871
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,600
eat badly, maybe they don't 
exercise, maybe they are 

872
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,680
overweight, but they don't want 
to feel bad about it and so you 

873
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,760
are making them feel bad. 
So they have to tell you to stop

874
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,600
doing that. 
If you talk about the non 

875
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,640
aggression principle, most 
parents, 80 percent, 90% depends

876
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,360
on the ethnicity, 70 to 90% of 
parents hit their children. 

877
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,960
So when you start talking about 
the non aggression principle, 

878
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
you know, there's this very 
uneasy relationship in people's 

879
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,840
minds, most people's minds, 
between their own conscience and

880
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:49,080
an external truth because the 
conscience is buried down by 

881
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,120
lies, justifications, 
propaganda. 

882
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,360
This is how you have to raise 
kids. 

883
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,880
They turn into brats if you 
don't hit them or whatever, 

884
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,800
right? 
So the conscience gets buried. 

885
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600
But the conscience is like a 
little Gopher. 

886
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,640
It's always sticking its head up
and sniffing the wind and 

887
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,880
looking for other Gophers. 
Is there anything out there that

888
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,520
I can use to gain some authority
back in in the mind? 

889
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,720
So the number of people who are 
floating around or storming 

890
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,080
around, stomping around with a 
bad conscience can scarcely be 

891
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,840
overestimated. 
And so when you start talking 

892
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
about the keto diet, people 
who've been neglecting their 

893
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,840
health, their conscience is 
like, oh, wait, wait, somebody's

894
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,840
helping. 
Oh my gosh, can I, can I get, is

895
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,440
somebody out there? 
Can I get an Amen? 

896
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,960
Is somebody out there talking 
about this? 

897
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Maybe I can get some traction. 
And they're like, oh, oh, 

898
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,400
conscience rising, Shut up. 
Right. 

899
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,240
And the non aggression 
principle. 

900
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:35,480
Well, people have been abusive 
in their relationships. 

901
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,800
They've yelled and called each 
other, you know, like one of the

902
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,920
things when couples call me and 
they've got problems with their 

903
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,600
marriage, I'm like, well, what 
words have you used against each

904
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,840
other? 
And some of the words are pretty

905
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,160
horrific, right? 
So people have been really 

906
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,640
aggressive. 
They've hit their children, 

907
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,720
they've bullied their employees,
they've bullied people around 

908
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,600
them. 
They've called people terrible 

909
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,400
names, maybe even their children
as well. 

910
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,840
So when you start talking about 
the non aggression principle, 

911
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,560
their conscience is like, whoa, 
hey, there's a way out of this 

912
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,680
rubble that I've been buried 
under, this rubble of 

913
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,640
justifications and habits and 
history. 

914
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
I could get up, there's somebody
out there talking about it. 

915
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,880
And they, their conscience 
begins to rise into them because

916
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,160
it senses an external ally which
they can join hands with to 

917
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,520
rescue the personality from 
evil. 

918
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,080
And So what happens is when you 
start talking about truth, 

919
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,080
virtue, better behaviour, any 
kind of thing. 

920
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,040
The same thing happens when I 
talk about universally 

921
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,280
preferable behaviour. 
Universally preferable behaviour

922
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,600
is just another name for the 
conscience, and people's 

923
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,200
relationship to my theory of 
ethics is always their 

924
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,640
relationship to their own 
conscience. 

925
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,000
And so people have terrible 
things they've done. 

926
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,760
They've buried it under 
justifications. 

927
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,280
You start talking about better 
principles, higher standards, 

928
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,240
the conscience gets roused and 
they freak out. 

929
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,120
It feels like an assault. 
You know, if there was some 

930
00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:01,560
remote control thing that could 
you, you pushed a button and 

931
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,920
people got like some crazy 
adrenaline dump or or something,

932
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,840
you just, you got to dial, you 
crank it up and they just freak 

933
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,360
out and they have a panic 
attack, right? 

934
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,320
I mean, that would be assault. 
Like if you wired up someone's 

935
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,160
brain and you had a remote 
control anxiety and you just 

936
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,880
dialed up their anxiety, that 
would be considered assault. 

937
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,400
But that's how people experience
it when you talk about virtues 

938
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,560
and values that make them feel 
bad, they view you as assaulting

939
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,320
them. 
They don't say, well, Gee, I 

940
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,760
guess I've been ignoring this 
issue. 

941
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,600
I've done some bad things. 
I should probably listen to this

942
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,080
guy and become a better person. 
Oh, they experience it as 

943
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,760
assault. 
You're making me feel terrible. 

944
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,200
You're a bad person. 
Shut up. 

945
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,240
And so that is, I think one of 
the things that's happening. 

946
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,640
And so they feel anxiety when 
you talk about the non 

947
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,920
aggression principle. 
But then if you start talking 

948
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,000
about, I mean, just to circle 
back on the welfare state, if 

949
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,800
you say, you know, the welfare 
state is is toxic and bad. 

950
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,000
And listen, man, I mean, I'm not
sure where you grew up. 

951
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,520
I certainly grew up in what I 
called the matriarchal manners, 

952
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,120
which was a single mother, rent 
controlled apartments of 

953
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,080
cockroaches everywhere, 
violence, screaming, you know, 

954
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,760
we were going to, I remember we 
moved into one place and we were

955
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,400
going to go meet with the 
neighbors, but then we couldn't 

956
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,800
because the guy got arrested 
because he he shot a bullet into

957
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,400
a wall during a fight with his 
wife. 

958
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,760
He was actually a cop. 
So this is the kind of 

959
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
hellscape, you know, screaming 
violence, like just just awful, 

960
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,480
awful stuff. 
And so, and this is all the 

961
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,760
welfare state. 
Now I'm not saying it's 100% of 

962
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,360
their behavior was defined by 
the welfare state, but there are

963
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,720
a lot of people who were on 
quote disability while still 

964
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:46,840
able to move their own furniture
and they just didn't have to go 

965
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,760
out in the world and deal with 
people and suffer any negative 

966
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,320
consequences for bad behavior. 
So they tended to rot on the 

967
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,600
inside and decay in terms of 
their standards. 

968
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,200
So if I say, well, the welfare 
state is coercive, the welfare 

969
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,160
state is debt based, the welfare
state makes people worse and we 

970
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,640
need private charity where we 
actually go in and help people 

971
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,080
with usually emotional issues or
maybe mental health issues, but 

972
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,320
don't just give the money and 
leave them to rot in their own 

973
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,800
little apartments. 
So then what happens is people 

974
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,720
then feel anxious because I'm 
bringing up the immorality and 

975
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,000
dysfunction of the welfare 
state. 

976
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,920
So the both are the same things.
If if someone says, oh, you're 

977
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,080
calling me fat because you're 
talking about the keto diet, 

978
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,360
they feel anxious. 
If you start talking about the 

979
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,960
immorality of the welfare state,
then they feel anxious. 

980
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:37,320
And so it's the both, I think 
both the principles are 

981
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,600
following the same pattern is 
that if you start talking about,

982
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,840
you know, less government 
coercion, less government 

983
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,280
control, voluntary charity and 
private education and so on, 

984
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,800
then people get really anxious. 
And, you know, now I understand 

985
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,480
it. 
Like, now we're in a situation 

986
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,080
where the welfare state has gone
on for so long that it's really,

987
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,760
really hard. 
You know, outside of some 

988
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,600
massive extremity, like some 
crazy military thing, it's 

989
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,320
really hard to think how the 
welfare state can be wound down 

990
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,920
without a lot of rioting or 
violence. 

991
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,600
So people just, oh, we can't 
talk about the welfare state. 

992
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,240
And they may know people on the 
welfare state. 

993
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:18,120
They may themselves be on the 
welfare state and so on. 

994
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,760
Or if you start talking about, 
you know, Social Security, I 

995
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,040
mean, people are taking out way 
more than they ever paid in. 

996
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,360
And that's literally stealing 
from the younger generation. 

997
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,240
They're like eternal boomer 
vampires who on the jugular of 

998
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:31,200
the younger generation. 
The younger generation can't get

999
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,480
their start because of all of 
this money going to the elderly.

1000
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,720
And then people are like, oh, 
but if let's say that there's 

1001
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:43,000
some diminishment in, in 
benefits for old age pensions 

1002
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,240
because we can't afford them. 
And then people are like, oh, 

1003
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,520
that meant that might mean that 
my mom comes to live with me and

1004
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,200
they don't. 
So they feel anxious about that.

1005
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,640
So people are just managing 
their own anxieties by having 

1006
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,800
people not say things. 
And language is just for a lot 

1007
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,040
of people, it's just dial up 
feels like assault. 

1008
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,680
And so people freak out because 
of that stuff. 

1009
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,360
And I think that's the general 
pattern that we see this sort of

1010
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,160
triggered thing. 
Definitely. 

1011
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,400
I love the line by Antonin 
Scalia. 

1012
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,360
I think he said the welfare 
state has created donors without

1013
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640
love and recipients without 
gratitude. 

1014
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,480
I once found out that this guy 
who would never tell me what he 

1015
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,160
does for a living, turns out he 
was a welfare recipient making 

1016
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
quite a bit of money. 
I said, you know, every day in 

1017
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,080
the private sector, I'm thanked 
for the little bit of money I 

1018
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,000
give. 
Even to Starbucks, Planet 

1019
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Fitness, any of these places. 
I've never been thanked by a 

1020
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,320
welfare recipient for all the 
taxes I've paid. 

1021
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,880
I go, would would you like to 
thank me? 

1022
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,560
Oh, I've never seen him so 
angry. 

1023
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,040
It is just unbelievable. 
Talk about burying something 

1024
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,800
deep within your conscience and 
flipping out when the slightest 

1025
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,720
thing. 
Speaking of why people, I'm 

1026
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:55,800
sorry, did you want to comment? 
No. 

1027
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,240
No, go ahead. 
I I think you made the point. 

1028
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:03,200
Why are so many people, myself 
included, so terrified of the 

1029
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,040
smallest amount of disapproval? 
As I said earlier, I was talking

1030
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,880
to grown adults who were saying 
you can't say X insert something

1031
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,200
that was on their mind that they
wanted to get off their chest 

1032
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,400
that they thought would be met 
with some social disapproval by 

1033
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,760
either maybe customers or 
bosses. 

1034
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,000
But even just at a dinner party,
why are so many people so 

1035
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,240
terrified of the smallest amount
of disapproval? 

1036
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:30,400
I think there's an evolutionary 
reason behind this. 

1037
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,240
And this is not an answer in 
terms of a moral sense. 

1038
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,360
But my question is always why is
it this way? 

1039
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,520
Like why is it that boys in 
particular who are beaten grow 

1040
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,160
up to be violent? 
There's nothing in physics that 

1041
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,960
that says this, right? 
So that has to be some 

1042
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:52,520
evolutionary adaptation. 
So we are a social species. 

1043
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,640
We are a tribal species. 
We can't survive on our own 

1044
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,160
amid. 
There are lots of creatures out 

1045
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,840
there. 
They just get together to mate. 

1046
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,080
They go off on the way. 
A lot of the big cats are kind 

1047
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,080
of like that. 
But we are social tribal 

1048
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,200
animals. 
And that's why we have got these

1049
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,400
giant brains is because we have 
this sort of, we outsource a lot

1050
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:15,280
of our survival to to others. 
So because our children develop 

1051
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,000
so slowly, they need a huge 
amount of resources and pair 

1052
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,360
bonding and commitment and time.
And what that means is that 

1053
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,760
people have to care about us. 
They have to approve of us. 

1054
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,120
Our tribe has to approve of us. 
If our tribe does not approve of

1055
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,280
us, a couple of things are going
to happen. 

1056
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,840
We might get ostracized, in 
which case we're banished from 

1057
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,120
the tribe and our genes don't 
reproduce and we die alone in 

1058
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,680
the wilderness at some point. 
Or maybe we stay in the tribe, 

1059
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,440
but the women won't mate with 
us. 

1060
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,280
Right? 
Which is why there tends to be a

1061
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,120
bit of a hive mind among women 
about bad things in the 

1062
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,720
withholding of sex is very 
powerful. 

1063
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,800
And it is because that is 
genetic death. 

1064
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,240
You have no offspring. 
Or let's say that we somehow do 

1065
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:02,240
manage to not get ostracized, 
not get kicked out, and we find 

1066
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:05,080
a woman who will sleep with us 
and we have kids. 

1067
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,840
But then if we lose approval, 
then then we lose status. 

1068
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,000
Our kids lose status. 
Nobody wants to hang with us, 

1069
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,880
and our kids are less likely to 
survive because the other tribal

1070
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,000
members are not as diligent in 
feeding them or taking care of 

1071
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,000
them. 
Because again, we're sort of 

1072
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,440
raised in this somewhat 
collective situation. 

1073
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:31,400
So if we think of the mindset 
that happened to be born, I'm 

1074
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,640
sure it was born countless 
times. 

1075
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,720
I've written an entire novel 
about this called Just Bore the 

1076
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,800
mindset of somebody who Grows up
who just doesn't give a rat's 

1077
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,520
behind about other people's 
opinions. 

1078
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,000
They think for themselves, they 
go with reason and evidence as 

1079
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,880
best they can, and they just 
don't care about the opinions of

1080
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,360
others. 
OK, does that gene set get 

1081
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,360
selected for survival? 
And the answer is no. 

1082
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:59,600
So we are the descendants of 
people who were terrified of 

1083
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,960
disapproval because if they 
weren't tested, terrified of 

1084
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,920
disapproval, they wouldn't have 
made it. 

1085
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,120
We wouldn't be descended from 
them. 

1086
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,120
So I think that is really 
important. 

1087
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,840
It's hard for us to think now. 
Now we have all of this 

1088
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,680
independence, right? 
Like I can disagree with 

1089
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,760
society. 
You and I can have this 

1090
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,840
conversation and you know, our 
kids will flourish and and we 

1091
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,360
can have a good life and all of 
that, but that's not how we 

1092
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,160
evolved. 
We evolved in time of massive 

1093
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,640
predation, right? 
The, the predators are wolves 

1094
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,240
and lions and jackals and you 
name it, right? 

1095
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:40,240
There were predators everywhere 
and food was scarce and disease 

1096
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,240
was rampant. 
And if you were starving and you

1097
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,840
got sick, your body might not 
have the energy to fight off the

1098
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,200
infection and so on. 
And so survival was like razor 

1099
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,400
thin. 
You know, back in the day of the

1100
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,200
last Ice Age, humanity was down 
to like 10,000 people. 

1101
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,800
I mean, that's a small town that
that's all that were. 

1102
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,600
So survival was like a razor 
edge margin and anything that 

1103
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,920
got you over that line was 
hugely positively selected for. 

1104
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,840
And the tribe, the women, the 
men, the elders, the witch 

1105
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,680
doctors, they just did not like 
people who were immune to 

1106
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,120
disapproval because you couldn't
get people in line and their 

1107
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,640
kids would not survive. 
So we've evolved this way, which

1108
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,600
doesn't make as much sense now, 
because we can be independent, 

1109
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,200
we can go against social 
approval, we can disregard to 

1110
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,080
some degree the opinions of 
others, and we can do well. 

1111
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,560
But throughout most of human 
history and our certainly during

1112
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,800
the course of our evolution, 
that was not at all the case. 

1113
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,400
You needed every tiny scrap of 
survivability and positive 

1114
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,200
reproductive selection that you 
could get. 

1115
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,360
So we've evolved that way 
because there was no other way 

1116
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,280
for us to survive. 
And so now we have the challenge

1117
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,280
in that our environment is 
something where we can have more

1118
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,680
free thought and free speech, 
but our emotional apparatus was 

1119
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,800
evolved to be uncomfortable with
that. 

1120
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,960
And that's a challenge, I think,
that most free thinkers have had

1121
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,160
to face throughout human 
history. 

1122
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:11,040
And we are in a situation now in
the modern world where, you 

1123
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,160
know, I have an ancestor, 
William Molyneux, who's best 

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friends with John Locke, the 
philosopher. 

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And they, they criticized the 
king and they ended up being 

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chased by the King's soldiers 
through Ireland and, you know, 

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sleeping in barns and, and 
drinking from ditches and, you 

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know, so there's a lot of 
challenges to, to having 

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creative, rational thought and 
going with the evidence and so 

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on. 
We are in a situation where it 

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is more a matter of emotional 
management than actual physical 

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danger. 
Like we're not getting chased by

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the King's soldiers, usually 
through the Irish countryside 

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and having a lay down with the 
goats. 

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So our emotional nature is 
developed for scarcity where 

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disapproval meant death. 
But we can actually do well in 

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society by telling the truth, 
which goes against our emotional

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instincts, if that makes sense. 
Yes Sir. 

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Thank you so much to everyone 
for watching Keith Knight. 

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Don't tread on anyone. 
Please visit 

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libertarianinstitute.org and 
free domain dot com. 

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Mr. Molyneux, thank you so much 
for your time. 

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Appreciate the conversation.