1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:04,400 Each individual should have the freest possible scope for the 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,800 development of his faculties and his personality. 3 00:00:07,900 --> 00:00:10,800 In order to have this scope. He must have freedom from 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,900 violence against himself, violence can only repress and 5 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:16,600 Destroy human growth and Endeavor. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,200 And neither can reason and creativity function under an 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,200 atmosphere of coercion. If each person has equal defense 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,800 against violence, this equality before the law will permit him 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,300 to maximize his Potentials, welcome to Keith's night. 10 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:35,000 Don't tread on anyone today. We have Sean layout to discuss a 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,900 book. He has written regarding 12 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:40,000 morality. I don't want to give away the 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,200 title just yet because it's terrific. 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,100 Sean. Thank you for coming on Keith 15 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:45,300 Knight. Don't try it on anyone. 16 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:46,800 Oh, thank you so much for having me. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,400 I really appreciate it. So when discussing morality, a 18 00:00:50,408 --> 00:00:54,400 few things, come to mind that we can sort of all agree on without 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,700 there being, you know, a fight in the cafeteria at work about 20 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:02,100 anything and it's like, Okay, the things we know are wrong 21 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:05,099 slavery. Rape murder kidnapping, theft 22 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:07,900 genocide. What is it about? 23 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:11,300 These acts that you think is immoral. 24 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:13,800 Well, yeah, that's that's the big question. 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,800 And I actually was listening to your show with Mark passio and 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,700 Larkin Rose recently. And that question was, it was 27 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:24,100 floated and it's a challenging one. 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,600 So, I took a step back and I started thinking, okay. 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,300 So who has who? Who determines this, this 30 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:33,700 morality where, you know, where is its source? 31 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:41,500 And when looking at a particular act, I realized that we all know 32 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:45,700 that the person who takes an action, can't be the judge of 33 00:01:45,700 --> 00:01:49,700 the morality of that action because then they, you know, the 34 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:53,700 classic example is, you know, mousey tongue or something can 35 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:57,600 judge his own actions to be moral external. 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,500 Observers can't judge. Either because they're not 37 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:06,800 affected by the action at all. So, by logical deduction, only 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,300 the receiver, the person who is who is being affected by that 39 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:14,100 action, is the one who's judging that action to be moral or 40 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:19,200 immoral and ultimately it comes down to consent. 41 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:23,600 If the person who is being acted against is consenting to the 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,800 action. Then, the action is perfectly 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,900 moral. If they are not consenting to 44 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:30,200 the action than the action, is Oral. 45 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:35,300 And thus was where I made the connection between consent and 46 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,800 morality. And so that's why I titled the 47 00:02:37,808 --> 00:02:42,700 book consent is morality. Now, just so we're on the same 48 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:44,700 page. First of all, I love how at the 49 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:46,400 beginning of the book, you get definition. 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,400 So, we're on the right page. So many philosophy, books could 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,000 either just not have been written or if saved 300 Pages by 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,800 just making sure, we're talking about the same thing. 53 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:59,800 How would you define consent? Okay, so consent. 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:07,700 Is the affirmative decision or expression of accepting an 55 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:12,900 action? It's when we can get into into 56 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:15,300 the depths of the consent itself, but that that's really 57 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:20,800 the bottom line is if a person voluntarily, you know, without 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,400 without external coercion allows, another person to take 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,300 an action or doesn't action to themselves than by definition 60 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:34,300 that consent. To it, but it's really about the 61 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:36,800 voluntary acceptance of. And what's also very important 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:42,200 is the is the expression of it. It must be explicit and it must 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,400 be. It must be given so that the 64 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,900 other party that's taking the action actually has the consent. 65 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:54,300 Do you think there are times where there is implicit consent? 66 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:58,900 For example, if I let someone in my house, well, they can get 67 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:01,800 some water from the fridge. They can sit on the couch. 68 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:06,200 Maybe they can have, you know, they can use my pen and the ink 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,200 in there, but they can't take my car. 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,100 Do you think there is some implied, consent in the action 71 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,400 for the sake of? I mean, it would take so much 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,800 time and effort and energy to get consent for every single 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,500 thing. That's sometimes we do go on 74 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:21,000 implied. I think that there's there's 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:26,200 certainly cultural aspects to to that I argue in the book that 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 technically, if you want to get down to you know splitting 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,700 hairs. There's no there's no actual 78 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:35,600 implied consent. I think the the good example is 79 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,700 if you're if you fall unconscious and, you know, 80 00:04:37,707 --> 00:04:41,100 medical people start to start to try to help you. 81 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:46,000 Or if you know, if a young teenager attempts suicide or 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,800 something, then people try to to save that person. 83 00:04:50,300 --> 00:04:54,500 There's some people say that there's an implied consent. 84 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:58,500 In fact, I argued that the medical personnel in that 85 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:01,700 example. Violating the person's consent. 86 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:08,300 Now, maybe in our society. We essentially are looking the 87 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:13,500 other way to the violation of that consent, as you know, a lot 88 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,200 of folks in our space. A lot of people are looking the 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,000 other way about a lot of violations, comes of consent in 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,200 society. So that's not entirely unheard 91 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,500 of but technically you want to get down to brass tacks. 92 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:31,500 I would argue that those are violations of Sent and do you 93 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:35,100 think that they can be justified in some instances? 94 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:39,500 For example, is it okay for me to go and invade anyone's house 95 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:41,800 whenever I want to? Well, no, that's a blatant 96 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,100 violation of consent. Well, what if Jack and Jill get 97 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:49,300 married and they Jack takes out an insurance policy for two 98 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:52,100 million dollars, Jill goes, missing the next day. 99 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,800 We see Jack carrying a heavy Persian rug out of his house at 100 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,900 2:00 a.m. Well, and he refuses to come 101 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:03,000 down to the courthouse. Well, maybe then I can initiate 102 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,800 aggression and forcefully enter the house. 103 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,700 Or if someone's choking. Can I put my body up against 104 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:13,300 theirs and thrust? Really hard to stop them from 105 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:15,700 choking. Is it ever okay to violate the 106 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:18,800 consent of a person, right? Well, I'm obviously in the first 107 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,100 example, that that person took out the insurance is has already 108 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,600 committed the aggression, right? So it was a, you know, the 109 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,600 actions would be would be the would be an attempt to punish 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,600 those. Those, those aggressions in the 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,200 choking example, I think in those examples. 112 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,400 It's pretty clear that the person who is saved or the 113 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,300 person who has helped would turn around and say, thank you. 114 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,700 Yes, I I, you know, retroactively consented to your 115 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:50,400 action or by or even actually, even by the choking example. 116 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:53,600 A lot of people will sign to themselves and point to 117 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,300 themselves and and and somehow indicate that they need help. 118 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Obviously if they're unconscious, they can't. 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:07,300 But I I think the, I didn't say early on, I didn't make it. 120 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:11,700 Clear early on in the book that the world is not perfect. 121 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:16,000 Human humans live in the meat space as they say, and it's very 122 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,100 squishy and and there are definitely exceptions and 123 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:28,100 situations where that would be a controversial or or may appear 124 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:30,300 to poke holes in the floor. Safiye. 125 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:34,900 But and I do address that I do address that early on to make 126 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:39,800 sure that the folks know that the ideology is consistent. 127 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:43,000 It just because if there are, there are little weird examples 128 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,500 that might fall outside of, it doesn't mean that the entire 129 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:52,200 philosophy is, is, is damaged, and that is so important to get 130 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,000 into. Because I mean, yes, literally 131 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,700 anything can be justified in extreme examples, like anyone. 132 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:03,300 It was openly against slavery. Well, was it okay to enslave 133 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:06,200 someone for three seconds to save the entire human race from 134 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,300 cancer? AIDS covid. 135 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:10,600 And another speech from Bernie Sanders. 136 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:11,500 Yes. Absolutely. 137 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Those things are so terrible that if just some small 138 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,400 microscopic thing can be have such a different challenge, 139 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,300 different change to a human events. 140 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:24,500 Well, in some cases it would be okay. 141 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:28,800 All of that is a clear distraction or stalling tactic 142 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,400 use to get Away from the major examples. 143 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,600 So my question to you is what are some major reasons we should 144 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,799 value consent and aren't we already doing that? 145 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:45,200 Well, clearly, we're not, as I mentioned before, there's a 146 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:49,800 large number of Acts that are taken every single day that 147 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,800 violate consent. My my argument in the book and 148 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,200 the book is kind of laid out in three sections. 149 00:08:58,100 --> 00:08:59,700 The first is kind of to describe. 150 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:02,300 The philosophy of from beginning to end. 151 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:05,100 The second is to give some of these examples that we've been 152 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:07,900 talking about a little bit more real world examples. 153 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,000 And then the third is to is to talk about what happens in a 154 00:09:12,008 --> 00:09:15,500 world where sent is not being followed. 155 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:21,300 And one example, I talked about is it is with children. 156 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:26,500 If or if I can consent for someone else, what would happen 157 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,900 if if if you're not able All to withhold your consent. 158 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:35,800 What kinds of things that could happen in society? 159 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,300 I could, I could take all of your property. 160 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:42,900 I could enslave you. I can take your children. 161 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:47,800 I can, I mean if humans don't have the ability to withhold 162 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,400 consent, I argue that society would not last. 163 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,700 Actually. I don't think it would stay 164 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:58,900 cohesive and any sense for very long at all. 165 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:06,800 So at the very end of the book, I talk about why, what kind of 166 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,500 actions that are being that are that are violating consent and 167 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:15,900 how to recognize them. And what do we need to do to 168 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:26,100 build a more consensual Society? Sure as far as just getting any 169 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:29,000 philosophy, consistently applied, if you say no, screw 170 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,400 this. I don't care about consent or 171 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,500 who has the right to own what that can't even be consistently 172 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:38,200 applied because if I have the right to steal your headphones, 173 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:42,100 well that implies I have the right to own and possess them 174 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:44,800 and then someone should steal them from me because theft is 175 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,400 right, but they can't rightfully take it and own it and exclude 176 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,000 because theft is okay. And I can violate their consent, 177 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,500 the only consistent methodology to any philosophical discussion. 178 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:59,700 Here would be something that talks about both. 179 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,900 Consent and ownership. So I'm curious. 180 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:05,800 How do you determine who owns what? 181 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,400 And who was the aggressor in any given situation? 182 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:11,500 Sure. The AI from the very beginning. 183 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:15,600 I start very, very basically, I mean I even start at, I think 184 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,600 therefore I am I go right to the root of humanity and talk about 185 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:27,700 ownership and very clear about how a person because they own 186 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:30,900 themselves and I talked and I Make sure that I set that 187 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:33,300 Baseline about why people on themselves. 188 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:39,800 I discussed the fact that when you own yourself, you own your 189 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,300 time. So a lot of folks, I'm sure who 190 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,300 are, you know, a lot of your viewers, a lot of your listeners 191 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:51,300 or to know this but for those who are new to it you because 192 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:54,500 you own your life, you own your time. 193 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:57,100 That's something that because it's yours. 194 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,600 You may freely trade it for something else. 195 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,500 And that something else that property is now as much a part 196 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:07,400 of you as that time. Was that you traded for it? 197 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:12,400 Those two things are equivalent, which is why if anyone steals 198 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,600 something from you. If someone steals a car from 199 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,300 you, they are essentially enslaving you for the time that 200 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:23,400 you spent to produce that the the resources to make that car. 201 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:28,700 So it's when you do when you look at it from that angle, it's 202 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:32,000 very clear. We're about who owns what? 203 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,900 It's the, it's who voluntarily and peacefully traded, what they 204 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:40,200 own for something else in agreement to other people. 205 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,700 I think that's that's yeah. Go ahead yet. 206 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Now, would you agree with me that voluntary consent? 207 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,100 Can Trump labor value or labor effort? 208 00:12:54,100 --> 00:13:00,900 For example, if I go to a place and I work for Ten hours a day, 209 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:05,700 five days a week for a year and I build a bunch of houses. 210 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:09,300 I don't own the houses, and I'm don't even have the right to be 211 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:12,400 compensated. If I chose to sign up for a 212 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,400 charity to help build houses for people. 213 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,800 So, in that sense, could I do a ton of Labor and rightly not be 214 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,500 compensated? Because I voluntarily agreed. 215 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,100 And therefore, again, we're back at consent being the root of 216 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:29,100 morality instead of time and effort, equaling my right to 217 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:31,300 something. Oh, yeah, absolutely. 218 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:39,700 That's that makes perfect sense. If if a person I think with 219 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:42,200 situations like that, you have to think about it from a little 220 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,200 bit of higher level, right? So think about the person who 221 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:51,200 okay, so a worker volunteers his or her time to build houses, the 222 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 person. Now the organization that 223 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,800 they're being volunteered, their volunteering to gets all of the 224 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,600 labor builds the houses and either do It's them or sells 225 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,200 them to another person. And then that other person now, 226 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,700 is very grateful. They have the house. 227 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:08,500 But if the labor walks in and says, hey, this is mine. 228 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:13,500 I built it. It's, you know, they're they're 229 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,500 they're going against their, their original agreement. 230 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:19,300 Certainly, there's some ethical, certainly, there's ethical 231 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:23,900 problems there and which I do separate out in the book, the 232 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:30,300 difference between ethics and morality, but you know, they The 233 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:34,800 property exists that they gave their time freely voluntarily 234 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:41,100 just as you would give money or any other property and the the 235 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:44,900 other person whose have received it now, even though they 236 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:49,900 received a freely it's it is there as because that property 237 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:55,600 was and that time was given voluntarily at the time and it's 238 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,500 gone. That's once you once you give 239 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:03,900 something away and you agreed to give Away, and then I suppose 240 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:08,300 you could get a situation where somebody decides does that. 241 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:11,400 If someone does that someone gives away property. 242 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,700 It's now I want that back. They're not going to get a very 243 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:17,700 good reputation. So I think, even even in the 244 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:22,200 situation where, where you could where someone could argue that 245 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,600 they could, they could retrieve that property back. 246 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:27,200 It's not going to come without consequences. 247 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:32,500 They're going to they're going To be seen as somebody who does 248 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:34,200 that and the trust is going to be gone. 249 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,500 So there's a there's a lot to there's a lot to that possible. 250 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Now one major thing is, you can always, you know, come up. 251 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,100 It's always interesting to come up with examples. 252 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:49,100 Is it okay to steal, you know, one penny to save the entire 253 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,200 planet from destruction. Yes. 254 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,600 Well in some of these cases, aha, I've got you and sort of a 255 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,900 bit of a conundrum there for the existence of a state is 256 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:01,400 legitimate. That is the biggest non 257 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,900 sequitur. You can imagine it's the 258 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:06,800 equivalent of saying, you know, there's a lot of ambiguity in 259 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,700 our dealings there for Amazon has the right to coercively. 260 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:13,700 Rule us make executive orders. We have to follow like no 261 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:17,300 because all of the shortcomings that we Face, apply tenfold to 262 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:20,400 this group of people called the state or any other group of 263 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,900 people saying that consent and morality applies to them 264 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:26,700 differently. You have a great question that 265 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:30,100 you posed to the reader. You say should the more reality 266 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:33,500 of a particular action if that action is right or wrong, be 267 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,800 judged using the same method for everyone. 268 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,300 Who does it regardless of their job or intent. 269 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:43,800 Why is that question important? It really does go right to the 270 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,600 question about government. I mean, I do it kind of 271 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,800 subversively because the, the, the target audience when I was 272 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,200 first coming up with the idea of this book, is that kind of young 273 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,200 person idealistic person, maybe who considers themselves? 274 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:03,700 The left who really, you know, maybe grew up in the in the me 275 00:17:03,700 --> 00:17:06,400 to movement as it was getting big. 276 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,200 And really did fundamentally understand. 277 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,400 That consent is primary. And I think a lot of people do 278 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,099 not do believe, deep down. That consent is is key. 279 00:17:19,099 --> 00:17:24,000 It's the thing that that's really the biggest thing to to, 280 00:17:24,099 --> 00:17:28,000 to be cognizant of. So, starting from that. 281 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:31,900 I started putting those Those kinds of little less seeds in 282 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:36,000 the beginning of the book and that question in particular, was 283 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,100 to get to the point later on where. 284 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:42,900 Yes, just because somebody has, you know, a blue uniform and a 285 00:17:42,908 --> 00:17:45,400 shiny badge. They're just a human being just 286 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,700 like the rest of us and they don't have any special powers. 287 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,300 They you can tie. You can go in this through this 288 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:56,600 in the book as you can't Grant powers that you don't first 289 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,400 possess. So I make sure Were I started a 290 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,600 very simply and so that it supports the argument that I 291 00:18:06,608 --> 00:18:09,700 make later on? That's so important because 292 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,800 people can just apply that consistently in any case, if 293 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,600 people will often say well this is my job or even, you know, non 294 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,600 police officers, non members of the military will say, well 295 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,700 that's just their job. And that's just what they're 296 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:29,300 doing as if getting paid like doing the thing is bad, but if 297 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,700 Is paying you to do it now? It's okay. 298 00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:36,700 It's I mean the example I use is yes, I go around assaulting 299 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:40,800 women, but I only do it when their ex-boyfriends hire me to 300 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,500 do it. And so I'm just doing my job and 301 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:46,700 now it's totally different and morality doesn't count. 302 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:50,600 Of course, not. The other thing you said about 303 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,700 the ability to transfer things. You don't have, this is vital 304 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,400 when it comes to consent. Because if you say, well, the 305 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,100 people consent to something like regulation or Station. 306 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,900 Well, if the citizens, look, if I just don't have the right to 307 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:07,500 go around issuing taxes to people or going around 308 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:09,400 regulating people or conscripting them. 309 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:15,200 How can I delegate that to a group of individuals who if I 310 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,200 don't have X, how can I transfer X to someone else? 311 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:21,600 And I can't take it back. Like, there's no method of me 312 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,900 saying. I hereby a, you know, take back 313 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:28,500 my right. And I'm going to just, I'm going 314 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,400 to enforce this on. On my own terms, you guys tried 315 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 swing and a miss. Thanks so much Congress. 316 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,300 You guys did not do great on that. 317 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:41,800 You talk on page 29 about group. You say groups do not act. 318 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,600 What is the importance of understanding that groups? 319 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,700 Do not act only individuals act. That's actually one of the 320 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:51,700 biggest misconceptions that I found for people that are 321 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:55,100 outside our space that are that, that aren't, you know, was a 322 00:19:55,108 --> 00:20:00,900 collectivist mentality, is that He said, well, the people have 323 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,600 spoken or, you know, the voice of the people or something like 324 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,800 that is, is the, is the idea that a group of people have some 325 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,400 sort of separate. Cognition. 326 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:18,700 There's some sort of living entity or, or morality that 327 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:22,300 exist within that is separate and distinct from all the 328 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:27,900 individuals. And that's just, it's just when 329 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:31,500 we say that, A group Acts or the people of spoken. 330 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:37,000 It really is just a shortcut. It's the, it's a, the example 331 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,900 that I give. I don't know if they'll give 332 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:39,700 this in the book. I don't remember. 333 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:46,100 But a flock of birds, a flock of birds does not chirp each bird 334 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:49,500 chirps because you can't. So you might say, oh, that flock 335 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:53,100 of birds chirping but it isn't. It's the all the individual ones 336 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:58,400 and taking action of themselves that that's making the sound and 337 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,200 it's the same thing with any Group of humans that if it 338 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:06,300 actually this kind of dovetails into a little conversation, I 339 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:12,900 have later on in the book. If you grant these kinds of 340 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:17,000 anthropomorphic ideas to groups, if you give them it's like its 341 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,100 own identity and the group can take actions. 342 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Then what it does is it absolves any individual within that group 343 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,100 who may have committed a crime? If you're standing next to 344 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:31,200 somebody in a big crowd. And someone else throws a book. 345 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,100 I mean, a brick through a window. 346 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,100 Well, you didn't do that. And so or maybe the other person 347 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:41,000 could say, well, it was just, we were just the, the other group 348 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,900 that did it. You can never identify the 349 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:47,300 individual. If the group is, is committing 350 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:51,900 an atrocity. That's very and important. 351 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,300 What do you think about how you would tell someone that this 352 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,300 really matters to them? And their life, the idea that 353 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:01,200 consent is morality. And might say, well, yes, 354 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,600 taxation is theft. The regular regulation is 355 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 violent domination. The draft is slavery. 356 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,900 And war is mass murder, but that's not going to change me 357 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:12,400 and how I act and how I operate. So, it's something far-fetched 358 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800 and hard to really care about. Well, what would you say to that 359 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,900 mindset? Yeah, it's, I would approach it 360 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:22,800 by saying, think about ya. Think about your own life and 361 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,200 think about, you know, somebody doing something to you. 362 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,400 Think about someone just, you know, for a lady, taking your 363 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,000 prayers for man, taking your wallet. 364 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,300 Think about the situation where your consent is violated. 365 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,300 It's it's well, I mean at the very basic level, it's not. 366 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,900 It's, you know, it's, it's not a happy thought. 367 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:54,600 And so knowing that that, that that damage, that your that's 368 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,700 done to you. When your consent is violated, 369 00:22:56,700 --> 00:23:03,700 is universal is the And which is, which is why I assert that 370 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:08,300 morality is subjective because it's based on consent, even 371 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,700 though each of us consent to different things. 372 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,900 We all either consent or withhold, our consent to Every 373 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:21,500 Act was taken against us. And so that that fact that 374 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:26,300 everyone can sense is universal, which means that it is objective 375 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:31,300 human. It's an objective piece of 376 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:35,900 humanity. So for the person who's putting 377 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,500 it off to the outside, I would just I just think about it, be 378 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,400 able to more empathetic right, think about it, how you would 379 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,900 feel and at that kind of that kind of thing is we and we 380 00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:48,600 talked about it in foreign policy. 381 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,100 I think they think about what Americans would feel if someone 382 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:56,200 else is doing it to us, that kind of reversal, I think is 383 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,600 really instructive. Yeah, it's sad that you know, 384 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,100 like a thing that you should kind of learn in kindergarten to 385 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:06,100 explain. Well, you shouldn't hit this kid 386 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,300 because you wouldn't want to be hit, right? 387 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,400 It's amazing how we lose that obvious, that obvious empathetic 388 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,200 tool. I mean, I just had it the other 389 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,300 day. Now we're someone's like, well 390 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:21,400 regulation is there for us to flourish. 391 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,300 It's there to, you know, protect us and set parameters, so we can 392 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:28,700 flourish and I said, alright, so from here on on out before you 393 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,600 post anything on the internet, just send it to me. 394 00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:34,600 I'll tell you whether or not I approve or disapprove. 395 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,900 It just to make sure that you can have a space to flourish and 396 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:39,300 he blocked me. Now. 397 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,600 The point is is not to change. This person's mind. 398 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,500 It's did you know show everyone else? 399 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:50,800 And it is it almost benefits you to see how people respond to 400 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,700 different ways of communicating something and just to plant 401 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,800 seeds in the minds of everyone else. 402 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,400 I am so glad That someone sort of, you know, ask me these 403 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,100 questions and made me think about these sort of ideas. 404 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,900 I think the main reason or the main way that looking into, you 405 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:11,400 know, consent morality self ownership has changed me, is if 406 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200 you really understand people on themselves and people own their 407 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,700 own time, you realize that you're not automatically 408 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,300 entitled to other people's time or property. 409 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,900 So anytime you want to spend one second with someone or years 410 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,200 with someone, you have to say. All right. 411 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,300 They don't owe me. Any of their time. 412 00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:31,900 I need to create something of value. 413 00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:35,500 I want to be someone fun to be around and you know, what, if 414 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,600 they don't like me, maybe I'll change a little. 415 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Maybe I'll change a lot depending on whatever reason I 416 00:25:41,808 --> 00:25:45,100 have 2 or motivation that I have. 417 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:50,400 But when you recognize that other people don't own you and 418 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:53,800 you don't own them inversely. It totally changes. 419 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:59,500 The dynamic at least for me the dynamic of Ships and the and how 420 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:02,700 you, you know, create value for other people. 421 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:06,600 Do you see actual relationships changing once the people 422 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,200 embrace, the philosophy of self-ownership and volunteerism. 423 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,700 I think there's I think there's a lot to that thinking about, 424 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:15,200 even from a basic business standpoint. 425 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,700 I know that people are not required to buy the book, for 426 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:24,000 example, I am so grateful that people are voluntarily giving of 427 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,500 their of their self of the time and energy that They used to 428 00:26:28,508 --> 00:26:32,200 make to make money to hand, it to me for four, essentially. 429 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,300 You're just ideas that I put down on paper. 430 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:39,100 I am so grateful and so appreciative and so knowing that 431 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:43,800 that that they are doing it voluntarily, it makes it makes 432 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,200 it all the difference. I mean, I had a conversation 433 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,200 with my daughter when she was very young. 434 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,600 We used to use the little stars to when they do good, you get a 435 00:26:51,608 --> 00:26:55,900 star and when you earn enough Stars you get you get a reward 436 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,700 and we had a conversation. Because if your brother didn't 437 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,300 get enough Stars, would it be okay for you to give him your 438 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,000 Stewart? Your stars so that he could get 439 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000 a reward and she's like, yeah, but what if I made you give him 440 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,400 your stars and and you could almost see that that look on her 441 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,900 face and she didn't really understand. 442 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,500 It was just you know, like a six-year-old. 443 00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:20,900 But but if there's something viscerally wrong with that and 444 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,300 being able to, to give, you know, they know that whole that 445 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:30,900 nonsensical sharing. Is carrying ideology, you know, 446 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,200 that that leads into the that socialism kind of ideals. 447 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,500 If you don't have the ability to voluntarily give or to 448 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:48,000 voluntarily work together, then there's no, there's no value in 449 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,000 in doing something if you're forced to it. 450 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,600 So it absolutely makes all the difference when it comes to 451 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,400 interpersonal and comes to business. 452 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,300 Everything. And you can just look at how you 453 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,700 feel, how different you feel when you've either volunteer at 454 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:07,400 a charity or you've given to charity and then you have given 455 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,400 money to the IRS given Loosely. It's like, oh my God, more 456 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,300 genocide and Yemen versus. Oh gosh, seeing that woman, 457 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:19,900 smile was worth everything and then there's the secondary 458 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,000 effects of. If people automatically get 459 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,500 money, there's less of an incentive to use it efficiently, 460 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,400 so they have to create value. Maybe there will be corrupt. 461 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Ian, that's why we need a free market in charity. 462 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,700 Be so we could opt out of funding the corrupt with the 463 00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:35,300 state, you just fun corrupt and there's nothing you could do 464 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,500 besides protest and then them lie to you about the audit that 465 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,700 they did. So there's so many different 466 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,700 Dynamics where we going to say. No. 467 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,200 No. No, that's yeah. 468 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,300 Yeah, you can you can go down a lot. 469 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:51,300 There's lots of rabbit holes that you could go down for 470 00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:57,000 short. Now, a major obstacle in this is 471 00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:59,600 You can make a lot of great points. 472 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:01,500 But if someone's mind is open this much. 473 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:03,800 It's hard to get through. So how do you first open 474 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,100 people's minds to First? Accept the idea that consent is 475 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:12,700 the root of morality. Well, well, first, I do, I do 476 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:16,400 ask the person in the book. Do you believe, what do you 477 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,100 think about consent? And we consent is primary. 478 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Are you the kind of person who, who does genuinely value 479 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,300 consent? Because I think most people do, 480 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:27,400 as a matter of fact, I did some speaking. 481 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,900 At a local public, high school, and the one. 482 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200 And B. Even though I'm quite a very, 483 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,700 very upfront about a, my anarchism position, the people 484 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:41,600 who are there, there's a public school. 485 00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:46,400 They asked me back multiple times because they know that my 486 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,700 philosophy is based on peace and and consent. 487 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,900 And that really resonates. I think with, especially like 488 00:29:55,100 --> 00:30:00,200 high school kids and young adults, who Who understand the 489 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:05,200 absolute criticality of respecting consent choices? 490 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,300 And so, that's where I start. Okay, if you're with me, if you 491 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:13,300 already see the value and the requirement to respect consent 492 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,800 choices, let's follow that path down. 493 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,500 So that's what I've always felt as the is the key, as the kind 494 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:24,300 of the pry bar in. Yeah. 495 00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:29,200 People will sort of sometimes scoff at At trying to get to the 496 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200 front, the fundamental rights and philosophical aspects of 497 00:30:32,208 --> 00:30:33,800 something. They're like, well, I care about 498 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:39,200 the consequences in the real world real-world outcomes of 499 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,100 certain policies, not this whole rights and all this, you know, 500 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:45,700 made up stuff in your head to, which I say, first of all, they 501 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,400 never even do that with themselves. 502 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,100 Historically there like slavery, objectively wrong. 503 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,000 Genocide objectively wrong. This person was bad. 504 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,700 This person was on the right side of history, but when it 505 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:59,900 comes to today, the way, Analyze policies is, well. 506 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:03,200 What will it do for the unions and how will this affect GDP? 507 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,600 First of all, you have no clue because you're lied to by 508 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,400 Keynesian economists all day. Second of all, why is that 509 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,100 relevant? I mean, like, if I made a great, 510 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,800 there's so many people whose GDP and productivity would increase, 511 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,100 if they were enslaved. What does that tell you about 512 00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,400 the morality of slavery? It just tells you, you can 513 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,300 increase productivity without it being moral, and it's still 514 00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:29,300 being unjustified. Well, there's people, we could, 515 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:32,500 you know, steal from and kidnap and that would, you know, 516 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,800 stimulate economic yada yada yada, long story short, they 517 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,400 apply morality historically, but to the present, they can't 518 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,800 analyze anything because of Rachel, Maddow feeding them 519 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,700 nonsense all day. Along with, uh, with Sean 520 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,800 Hannity you. It's like you will you get it 521 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,400 from both sides. So do you have any go to 522 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,400 questions to sort of plant seeds in them in their mind, so maybe 523 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600 Go II. Can't let this guy know that 524 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,300 he's outsmarted me. But at the same time you want to 525 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:06,100 give him something to think about later. 526 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:11,600 Any ideas on that. Yeah, it's I really I think 527 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,100 we'll my Approach was just, you know, how much do you? 528 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:21,100 How much do you really believe that that's consent is primary 529 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,200 how you know, I'm asking the reader. 530 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,400 This is how, how much, if if I am. 531 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:30,400 If I explain this other problem, like, let's say stealing from a, 532 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:32,600 I think the exactly one of the examples is, you know, should we 533 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,200 steal from a billionaire to save the life of a homeless person? 534 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,000 And that's not a ridiculous question, right? 535 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,200 That's a daily question that people that people ask and if 536 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,800 your answer is, yes, you know, okay, but are you really do you 537 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,000 then to, how much do you really care about consent? 538 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,400 Yeah, and then I, you can go into the argument was well, did 539 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400 the billionaire actually get their? 540 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,200 Legitimately and how would you develop, you know, distribute 541 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,900 that equitably? I do. 542 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:09,500 Go into that a little bit, but the bottom line is, how much do 543 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,800 you care about respecting consent, violations? 544 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,900 I really try to hit them in the fields as much as possible, 545 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:21,900 because that's, I think and, you know, we've a lot of folks in 546 00:33:21,908 --> 00:33:27,500 our space talk about approach to talk about strategy and The 547 00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:30,200 strategies that we've been taking just have not have not 548 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,400 been as successful. I think as a lot of us would 549 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,700 have wanted the fact of the matter is, people live on their 550 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:42,800 fields, they live on their emotion and so by tapping into 551 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,200 that a little bit and saying, okay. 552 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,800 Do you really are you okay with violating someone's consent to 553 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,200 achieve your own personal interest in the world. 554 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,800 Well if least if someone says yes, and I know they're being 555 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,800 honest, but they need to At least understand that, that is 556 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,000 what they're doing. Yeah. 557 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,900 One they have to understand that's what they're doing. 558 00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,400 Because if they're going off Fields, well, maybe you want to 559 00:34:06,408 --> 00:34:08,900 make them feel a little bad about what they're doing and 560 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:10,400 then second of all you go. Wow. 561 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Okay, so it's okay for people to violate your consent and then 562 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,199 you just get back into the conundrum of earlier of no one 563 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,600 owns anything even themselves. If you have the right to steal 564 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,699 and enslave of virtually everyone. 565 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:30,199 You also have a pretty cool little map that is built within 566 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,900 the structure of the book. A way for people to actually get 567 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,500 cryptocurrency just by reading the book. 568 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:44,100 How can people get Bitcoin just by reading the book? 569 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,100 Okay. So this was kind of an idea to 570 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:50,699 because one of the things I oppose intellectual property, as 571 00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:53,000 far as I'm concerned, that the ideas in the book, should be 572 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,100 should be free. However, I wanted to reason for 573 00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:01,500 folks to actually buy the print copy of the book and so, I had 574 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,000 heard on another show, the idea of, with, with Bitcoin. 575 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,100 You could hide a Bitcoin key in a book and walk it across a 576 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,900 border and bring your Bitcoin with you. 577 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:14,200 And so, as it will 109 do that with this book. 578 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,600 So there's a pattern of words in the book itself and those 579 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,700 patterns that those particular words, when entered, I believe, 580 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:26,200 it's a bit addressed a torque. I've got all the instructions 581 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,000 online and I'll like it can explain how to get there if you, 582 00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:33,400 if you put Certain pattern of words together in the right 583 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,400 order and enter that into a key generator on bit addressed out 584 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,500 org, it'll spit out a Kia, public, and private key 585 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:44,600 combination. And if you enter the right 586 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,500 words, you'll get the Bitcoin wallet that I've pre-loaded now 587 00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:52,200 right now, it only has .01 Bitcoin. 588 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600 But as we record this, that's what about 300 bucks. 589 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,000 I think $330 in that range, which isn't zero. 590 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,600 It's something and I'm Going to be adding for every print copy 591 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,200 that is sold on my website consensus morality.com., I'll 592 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,500 kick in another dollar, so it will grow until someone finds 593 00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:14,100 it. So best place to buy. 594 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:18,300 The book is, where is consent is morality.com. 595 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,100 I know I was able to grab the, the URL for the name of the 596 00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:22,000 book. So I thought that was pretty 597 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,400 good. Excellent. 598 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,800 Yes, and of course, you'll see that link in the description. 599 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:31,200 Sean any primary aspects to consent? 600 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,500 Or morality, the philosophy of peace that I missed, or you 601 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:37,400 would like to reiterate for the listeners. 602 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,400 There is a before I get too far off the Bitcoin thing. 603 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,900 I want to give out a little hint to the pattern because if you 604 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,600 didn't have a hints to the pattern, you'd never find her. 605 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,900 So as a thank you to you and to your listeners. 606 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:55,700 I'm going to give away one of the hands on all the hints have 607 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,500 four. I'm sorry three words and the 608 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:04,400 hint for your audience is Concatenated in order, 609 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:08,800 concatenated, in order. Now, that hint doesn't make any 610 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,400 sense to you guys. So what I owe you will need to 611 00:37:11,408 --> 00:37:14,600 do is you'll need to go to consent as morality.com. 612 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:18,600 And there will be a link to get all of the rules and information 613 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,900 on how to grab that Bitcoin and links to where the other hints 614 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,000 are. But yeah, as far as the book is 615 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,600 concerned, it's a, it's a short book. 616 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,900 It's all about 125, huh? Three pages in that range. 617 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,400 I wrote it for the I wrote it for the non libertarian for the 618 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,600 non Anarchist. So I think it's something you 619 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,300 can hand to someone in your family who maybe is sympathetic 620 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:49,100 to the ideas to get some, some real basic groundwork and to 621 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,300 understand the importance of consent. 622 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,400 Sean Liao. Thank you for your time. 623 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:55,100 And thank you everyone for watching, Keith. 624 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,800 I don't try it on anyone. Thank you.