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The murder of one person is 
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one. 
Death penalty. 

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be ten times as unrighteous and 
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penalty's. 
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be 100 times as unrighteous, and
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penalties. 
All the gentlemen of the world 

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know that they should condemn 
these things calling them 

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unrighteous, but when it comes 
to the great unrighteousness of 

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States attacking States, they do
not know they should condemn But

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on the contrary, they all 
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Welcome to Keith's night. 
Don't tread on anyone today. 

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We have the author of Fool's, 
errand Scott Horton. 

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He is the managing director of 
the libertarian Institute of 

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which I can turn contribute from
time to time. 

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He's the host of anti-war radio 
for Pacifica 90.7, FM kpfk in 

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Los Angeles, Scott board, and 
thanks so much for taking the 

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time today. 
Thanks for having me. 

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Kate, appreciate it. 
So, what is libertarianism and 

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why? 
Why are you a Libertarian? 

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Oh, well, you know, I don't 
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I think libertarianism 
ultimately is the unified field 

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theory of human Freedom. 
So it's one part. 

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Natural rights Theory. 
One part. 

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Austrian School of Economics. 
One part revisionist bogus 

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history, one part 
anti-imperialism. 

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And it basically it all stems 
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calls, the non-aggression 
obligation. 

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That not just the non-aggression
principle, but that we owe it to

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each other to not because we are
social animals. 

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We owe it to each other. 
To not use Force to not initiate

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aggression, against each other. 
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and theft of other people's 
justly, acquired property. 

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And so, yeah, that's pretty much
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It's and, you know, I guess the 
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liberals. 
Works. 

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That this is a principle that in
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So a lot of people say well 
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it's just when you try it you 
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Well, it's a bad Theory. 
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libertarianism. 
We can see how the theory Works 

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in practice constantly and 
what's good about it. 

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And then mostly what people 
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libertarianism almost always and
you could call this confirmation

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bias or whatever. 
But Depends on on your point of 

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view I suppose. 
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we can explain how know the 
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with is actually contrary to 
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place. 
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would be the Socialist all over 
Twitter saying well of 

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capitalism. 
So great and how come it needs a

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giant bailout from the 
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of course us pure capitalist, 
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Economics types. 
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what causes the boom and the 
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It was Ludwig von mises 100 
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his book, The Theory of money 
and credit, it's not the 

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business cycle. 
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laissez-faire, capitalism that 
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And then the bust it's the 
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money supply. 
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probably learned in school. 
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think I'm pretty, pretty, 
certain that I learned in. 

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With grade that the Federal 
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of the New Deal. 
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laissez-faire, free market 
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brought about the stock market 
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And the Great Depression. 
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I learned that actually know the
Federal Reserve had been created

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20 years before and probably in 
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away the price of American entry
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know monetary inflation 
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especially 27 through 29 engaged
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the Open Market, Committee was 
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that was in the driver's seat 
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this money because Benjamin 
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New York Fed was essentially a 
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Of Montague, Norman the head of 
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of England had to base their 
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Wars in South Africa. 
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to do a favor for Montague 
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up the British, pound started 
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this is what caused not just 
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the economy and prevention of 
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market and in that. 
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LED Hoover and then Roosevelt to
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governmental controls over the 
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the crisis that only made 
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prolonging the Great Depression 
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in 1946. 
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Great Depression, finally ended.
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mythology of Herbert Hoover, 
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Type is, of course, completely 
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He was, you know, a progressive 
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progressives then, and that's 
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the FDR, damn, but the Hoover 
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there's incredible pressure, 
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hiring of anyone for less than 
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The base price was then which 
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directly out of work and, you 
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But in other words to some 
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they almost always have an 
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we're against to. 
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against the government, paying 
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during the crisis that they've 
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Or certainly for the Long term 
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basic income and things like 
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Progressive or socialist saying 
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1q e, 1 2 3 4 and 5 and print as
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out their Banker friends, but 
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huh? 
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those bankers and the 
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should be crucified that the 
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hate bailouts for banks. 
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does, you know? 
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bailouts for Bankers, they get 
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They get all the new money first
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cronies with it at artificially,
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And then they want to be bailed 
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the working people, by all means
burn them at the stake and we 

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will not object and you start 
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Chase and Citigroup and then 
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So terrific. 
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principle and try to apply it to
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non-aggression obligation that 
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I want to quote from Kissinger 
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Ferguson. 
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Hitler's have we avoided by 
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Foreign policy page, 23 as 
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felici, the history of things 
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things that did happen. 
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consequences of what American 
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War. 
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consequences of the different 
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How does Scott Horton respond? 

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Well, of course, it's completely
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know, from the lips of a proven 
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Old was responsible for the 
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human beings. 
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say, yeah, but just think of all
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had never acted and of course, 
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Henry Kissinger. 
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prolonging the war in Vietnam, 
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but in 1968, the Democrats were 
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the war, but Nixon was running 
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I have a secret plan to end the 
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And so, even though he had no 
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time. 
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Official. 
Political power, Henry. 

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Kissinger was on his team and 
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Anna chennault to go over to 
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and warn the South Vietnamese 
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With the north that we're taking
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Those, and Lyndon Johnson is 
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talking with a Republican 
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They ought not to be doing that.
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He let them get away with it and
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for years. 
And now what was the primary 

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result of that America lost? 
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anyway, and this was all in the 
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Yeah, we hate to have to pay the
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So lets you know, we have to 
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the excuse that they told the 
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communism from taking over all 
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Vietnam Falls in South, Vietnam 
Falls, the next will be Laos and

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Cambodia and Thailand and the 
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all. 
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Vietnamese hated the Chinese and
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the Chinese going back to 
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Rejection is MM. 
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government did help Ho Chi Minh 
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but that never bought them. 
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Vietnamese government. 
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Mount, and, and the Vietnamese 
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And then what ended up 
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the war in Vietnam, is what 
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in Laos and especially in 
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America was propping up in 
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discredited by his association 
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allowing. 
Quote unquote, the Americans to 

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continue to bomb his country and
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years during that war. 
And then this is what helped to 

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destabilize the whole place and 
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Rouge to then come down out of 
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the place and you know committed
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They call it in history where 
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they killed three million of 
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what? 
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Communists after their success 
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Out the Americans and in 
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the ones who invaded Cambodia in
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power and save the people of 
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government that had taken over 
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And at that point, or at least a
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I'm not sure if this started 
with Ford, but certainly by the 

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time of Jimmy, Carter America 
was backing Pol Pot and Ronald 

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Reagan in picked up that policy 
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backing Pol Pot and the Khmer. 
Rouge against their enemies. 

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Just because they hated Vietnam,
or even though, by far the worst

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criminals Against Humanity were 
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And so, I'm sorry, I got to go 
close the window. 

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There's some terrible noise 
going on out there. 

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I'm not sure if you're hearing 
that or not. 

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I was not. 
Well, wasn't able to hear it. 

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No problem think it's a skill. 
Saw across the street there. 

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I'd hate to have that all over 
the interview here. 

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But so and then look at who they
all call Hitler and of course, 

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the end. 
Kissinger supported both Wars in

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Iraq, they called Saddam Hussein
Hitler. 

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But when Saddam Hussein 
committed, all of his worst war 

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crimes was when he was working 
for Jimmy Carter and Ronald 

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Reagan, especially during the 
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When he did the anfal campaign 
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Jimmy Carter had originally 
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invade Iran. 
A war that cost about half a 

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million lives on each side and 
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him and letting him get away 
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that he could get away with it, 
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running profits, and decided to 
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Not sure, which all orders he 
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much trouble, but to call the 
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Hitler has got to be the biggest
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They did the same thing to 
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the serbs agreed to that and 
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have, you know, relative 
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ruling Coalition, that's fine. 
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ambassadors. 
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the crow ATS that you guys could
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You should start to war. 
Here's a bunch of weapons and 

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you shouldn't have to settle for
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responsibility for this when the
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Indonesia, and then his war 
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supposed leftists and East Timor
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our wars in the Middle East, 
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Yemen Afghanistan and Pakistan. 
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war was in Pakistan for a few 
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people were killed in that too. 
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Kissinger is going to say. 
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Anna done all that, we'd done. 
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much worse. 
But why should we believe that 

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at? 
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Right, like, if, if after 
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sent Donald Rumsfeld back to 
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riot act and tell him. 
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We're going to allow you back in
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keep Al-Qaeda down and as long 
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agent, interrogation of Saddam 
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asset Nagi Sabri, his one of his
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Intelligence Officers that 
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He was writing a novel key. 
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Adolf Hitler. 
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caricature of face on TV. 
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Hitler, this was probably the 
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how many times he could have 
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just the most frustrating thing 
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This is a dangerous guy. 
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like Sheldon Richmond. 
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Okay, there's it's the Who 
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Hitler include Stalin and Mao 
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tamburlaine are not in Hitler's 
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Okay, you know, I was told I 
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World War Two. 
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terrible. 
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of weakness that they had been 
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There's just nothing that 
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Nazi regime. 
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Kissinger who was in World War 
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in World War Two. 
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He knows the truth about who 
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It's a joke. 
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UN General Assembly saying the 
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Perpetual. 
Peace would come eventually 

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either as the creation of man's 
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consequence of physical 
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then looms as tomorrow's reality
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There will be no alternative. 
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world envisioned in the United 
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Charter will come about as the 
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catastrophe invited by our 
shortsightedness page, 29 

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Kissinger, the idealist by Niall
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So if we want World, Peace, do 
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inevitable. 
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therefore us interventions on 
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answers itself. 
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the world law. 
Its absolute catastrophe. 

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It's a bloody wreck. 
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this century and the terror War 
interventions in the name of 

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enforcing United Nations 
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it's been absolute catastrophe. 
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that is not going to end in our 
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Completely destabilize 
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As our enemies were intending to
do to give George Bush, and 

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excuse to overreact and 
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entire region. 
So it makes sense in, if you're,

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you know, a college student, and
it's all theoretical and you go.

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kill each other over it. 
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one world government and then 
that way, you know the be Erik 

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Kratz, somewhere at the top, 
we'll figure out how to 

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distribute the resources in a 
way that the state's won't fight

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over them. 
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a George w-- Bush is the 
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What happens when a Henry 
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deciding, you know, the worst 
hypothetical be well what 

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happens if a Hitler takes over 
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happens if a bush takes over the
world government, that's what we

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saw in 2003. 
He kills a million people, his 

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successor, kills another, And 
what does anybody get out of it 

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stability? 
So One World Government, its 

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first priority, of course, will 
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Authorized war in Korea, you 
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Chinese were sitting that 
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any kind of declaration of war, 
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the night. 
Congress, found out the next day

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that the war is on and Truman 
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Charter that authorizes me to do
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I don't need you. 
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great from now on, we're going 
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by having this state be the 
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the world law and then it's only
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unendingly in the name of 
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Peace. 
And in fact, that was the book 

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by Harry Elmer Barnes back after
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Perpetual. 
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This is your excuse. 
Your clamp down but you're not 

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setting the world free. 
You're just enslaving them. 

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Only now from North America, 
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the Germans or whoever else. 
I want to quote from page, 184 

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from decision points by George 
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titled Afghanistan. 
Removing Al Qaeda, Safe Haven in

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Afghanistan was essential to 
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We had planned the mission 
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We were acting out of necessity 
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Not Revenge history. 
Can debate the decisions. 

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I made the policies. 
I chose the tools I left behind,

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but there can be no debate about
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After the nightmare of September
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America went seven and a half 
years without another successful

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terrorist attack on our soil. 
If I had to summarize my most 

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meaningful accomplishment as 
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That would be it. 
How does Scott Horton respond? 

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Well, there's a few different 
ridiculous jokes in there. 

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First of all, they didn't have 
to invade Afghanistan at all. 

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The Taliban hated Osama Bin 
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know, the radical becomes a 
conservative the day, he seizes 

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the capital city. 
Okay, the Taliban weren't even 

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done taking over the whole 
country yet and they severely 

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resented Bin Laden and his group
of Saudis and Egyptians coming 

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in and getting them into trouble
with the world superpower and in

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July. 
Of 2001. 

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Mullah Omar had told arnaud de 
Burgh RAV from the Washington 

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Times that Osama. 
Bin Laden is like a chicken bone

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stuck in my throat. 
I can neither swallow him nor 

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spit him out, but they had been 
trying to negotiate to surrender

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Bin Laden ever since the embassy
attacks of 1998 and mullah Omar 

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had told Bin Laden that he was 
forbidden from releasing any 

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more statements threatening the 
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After the war Wall Street 
Journal reporter found a 

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computer with a letter on it 
from Bin Laden. 

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Don't mullah Omar saying, please
forgive me. 

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I'm so sorry for getting you 
into this mess. 

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I know how this looks but trust 
me in 10 years more like 20, the

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Americans will finally be 
bankrupt and broken and will be 

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forced to withdraw and 
humiliation and if they if they 

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refuse to attack now, we look 
strong if they attack and invade

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and By the place and we end up 
buying them down and bleeding 

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them dry and forcing them out. 
Like we did the Soviet Union, 

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then so much the better and of 
course, Ben Laden really was 

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kind of a leninist in that 
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He didn't care how many eggs he 
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How many Afghan you know 
civilians had to die. 

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Let me hear. 
He was blatantly trying to 

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recreate the war against the 
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America had backed the 
mujahideen side, but a million 

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Hands were killed by the 
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He figured fine. 
Whatever. 

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If we got to recreate that if 
that's what it takes to force, 

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the American Empire out. 
Let God sort em out there. 

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Believers will go to heaven. 
Anyway, right? 

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So that was the thing. 
So, George w-- Bush was just 

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falling, straight into Bin 
Laden's Trap by invading 

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Afghanistan. 
He act like he, you know, oh, he

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destroyed their safe haven. 
You see what he's leaving out 

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there? 
Actually killing Bin Laden. 

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What did he not do? 
Actually kill Bin Laden. 

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He sent in Delta Force, Team be 
but he pulled team a out before.

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Team B got there, the Delta 
Force begged over and over and 

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over for him to send the Green. 
Berets who were stationed in 

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Northern Afghanistan to come and
help no dice. 

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They asked for the Marines to 
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where General Mattis was in 
charge, General, Mattis was 

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asking to go New York Times, 
quote. 

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00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:44,700
The general was turned down. 
The Marines could have been used

453
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:46,500
to seal the pact of Stanny 
border. 

454
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:50,400
They were not the Army Rangers 
had the Bagram air base north of

455
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,900
Kabul, tens of thousands of Army
Rangers. 

456
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:55,700
They're not allowed to join in 
the fight. 

457
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,100
Instead. 
You had one small team of Delta 

458
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:03,600
Force operators and their CIA 
Liaisons from the special 

459
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,100
activities division working with
two groups of local mujahideen 

460
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:13,700
Warlords guy named xamon and a 
guy named Ali, who their 

461
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:17,300
Fighters This is now Legend. 
Their Fighters went home every 

462
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:20,500
night, and then had to climb 
back up the mountain again every

463
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:24,600
morning and, you know, made no 
progress in the whole time for. 

464
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,100
We look, they knew that Bin 
Laden was at Tora Bora by the 

465
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,800
third week in November. 
He didn't Escape till December 

466
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,300
17th. 
That entire time the CIA. 

467
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:38,000
And the Delta Force were begging
for reinforcements and were 

468
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,500
rejected over and over and over 
again. 

469
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,500
So George Bush. 
Cancro bow. 

470
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:46,500
Oh, he smashed their safe haven 
in Afghanistan, but he didn't 

471
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:48,800
kill Bin Laden and Ayman 
al-zawahiri. 

472
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:54,400
It took 10 years before the 
seals ended up killing Bin Laden

473
00:26:54,500 --> 00:27:02,400
in nine years in 2010 in 
Pakistan, was watery still 

474
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800
podcasting. 
From somewhere in Pakistan, 

475
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,600
exhorting. 
His followers to violence 

476
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,200
against the US and then, as far 
as him saying, well, there were 

477
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,300
no successful terrorist attacks 
against the country in that 

478
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:18,300
time. 
I'd have to get my, my, my 

479
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,400
timeline out. 
But the reality, the first of 

480
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,300
all, the major point there is Al
Qaeda was not a mass movement. 

481
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,300
Okay. 
There was one small, Special 

482
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:32,700
Forces Group essentially. 
So, at the time of the September

483
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:36,800
11th attacks, Tack on like the 
lie that they pushed on TV. 

484
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,800
They knew that there were not 
Al-Qaeda sleeper cells in the 

485
00:27:40,808 --> 00:27:43,400
United States. 
There were no al-Qaeda in your 

486
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,300
hometown. 
There were no al-Qaeda in 

487
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:50,200
Chicago in LA and San Francisco 
in Houston in Dallas in Miami. 

488
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,300
They weren't here the few 
handlers of the hijackers had 

489
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:55,700
hightailed it out of the 
country. 

490
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,800
Before the attack, left their 
dinner on the table down there 

491
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:06,600
in Florida and everything. and 
so, you know, there was the shoe

492
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,400
bomber Richard Reid who's attack
failed, but he got through the 

493
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,500
net. 
You know, there was a crash in 

494
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:13,900
Brooklyn. 
There was a plane that went down

495
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,800
in Brooklyn, just a couple of 
weeks after the attack that they

496
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,000
said was an accident that I 
still to this day. 

497
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,100
Think was suspicious, where the 
engines fell off the plane. 

498
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:26,300
And all of this stuff. 
I forgot the name of the flight 

499
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:33,500
now, but and and meanwhile all 
through the bush years. 

500
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,100
What they did was they drummed 
up fake terrorist plots. 

501
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,900
They had the FBI. 
There's a great book about this.

502
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,200
I actually started to write a 
book about this at one point, 

503
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,200
but none of the Publishers seem 
to be very interested in it. 

504
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,900
But Trevor, Aaronson wrote a 
book about this called the 

505
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:52,500
terror factory. 
And it's about how all through 

506
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:55,800
the bush years. 
They drummed up entrapment cases

507
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,900
against idiots in order to make 
it look like there was a real 

508
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:03,400
terrorist threat in the country,
especially to keep people 

509
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,000
afraid. 
Keep the orange alerts blaring 

510
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,200
until they could find a chant 
until I could have their chance 

511
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,300
to invade Iraq. 
They knew it would take about a 

512
00:29:11,308 --> 00:29:14,600
year and a half to build up all 
their forces in Kuwait to do it.

513
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,600
And so remember the Liberty City
7 who were just some ghetto 

514
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,600
gangsters who were broad twenty 
thousand dollars to say, they 

515
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,200
loved Osama into the camera and 
the microphone had a retarded 

516
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,000
kid at a bookstore in New York 
who they framed up for a plot to

517
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:38,800
attack the subway. 
There you Had the the this poor 

518
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,700
kid Hamid Hyatt out in Lodi, 
California where they sent the 

519
00:29:42,708 --> 00:29:45,400
FBI sent an informant to 
infiltrate him. 

520
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,800
And his dad. 
There was no cell who was just a

521
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,600
family, a father and son and 
this guy insinuated himself into

522
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,700
the family. 
Started calling the dad dad 

523
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,000
started, treating the sun like 
his little brother and waited 

524
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,500
for months and months until he 
was completely insinuated with 

525
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,700
them. 
And then brow beat this kid into

526
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:06,200
saying he loved. 
And then at one time, you could 

527
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,200
watch the video of this on the 
LA Times site. 

528
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,600
I'm sure it's not there anymore.
But at one point you could watch

529
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,500
the video of the FBI's 
interrogation of this kid. 

530
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,600
And what happened was, he went 
to Pakistan to Karachi Pakistan 

531
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,200
to visit his grandfather. 
And while he was at, we know 

532
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,700
this now while he was there, he 
did nothing but play soccer, and

533
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,900
video games and hang out with 
his cousins and then come home 

534
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:31,000
and nothing happened at all. 
That's the truth. 

535
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:34,400
But what the FBI did was they 
just coerced him and he Just a 

536
00:30:34,408 --> 00:30:38,300
kid and they coerced him into 
saying that oh, you know what 

537
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800
his father's his grandfather's 
house and Paxton. 

538
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,300
It wasn't in Karachi. 
It was in Islamabad. 

539
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:46,000
And in fact, actually, yeah, 
you're right now that I think 

540
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400
about it. 
It wasn't in Islamabad, Pakistan

541
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,500
at all. 
It was in Kandahar Afghanistan. 

542
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,200
And what were they doing there 
in Kandahar Afghanistan why his 

543
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,000
grandfather's house was an 
Al-Qaeda training camp. 

544
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,800
And and where did these Al-Qaeda
Fighters trained? 

545
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,000
This kid is clearly making this 
all up at essentially. 

546
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,500
Gunpoint, what were they doing 
there? 

547
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,900
What kind of training? 
Well, you see, where were they 

548
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:12,500
training in the basement? 
Yeah. 

549
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:15,500
My grandfather's basement is 
where all the al-Qaeda Fighters 

550
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,800
were training there. 
And the and the cop says, okay. 

551
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,900
Well, what kind of training are 
we talking about there? 

552
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,900
And he says, well, you know, and
he kind of pantomimes like he 

553
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,800
has a stick. 
So if you were the FBI agent and

554
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600
trapping this kid and you know, 
putting words in his mouth, you 

555
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,900
might say what they're teaching 
them stick fighting, something 

556
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:37,900
like that, right? 
But this idiot cop says what 

557
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,900
pole vaulting. 
He's teaching them pole 

558
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,200
vaulting. 
And the kid says, yes. 

559
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,800
Yes. 
That's right. 

560
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,300
My grandfather is training, 
al-Qaeda in pole, vaulting, in 

561
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:54,900
his basement, in Kandahar, the 
jury put this kid in prison for 

562
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:57,400
20 years. 
He just got out, you know, a 

563
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,300
little bit early last year and 
there are tons of these to Fort 

564
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:05,800
Dix. 
Pizza plot the the JFK Airport, 

565
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,100
gasoline, tank plot, and all of 
these are completely made up. 

566
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,500
Even the This one was Obama 
years, was the one in Garland 

567
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,900
Texas at the draw. 
Muhammad cartoon contest. 

568
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,700
And this one actually came to 
violence, the guy shot a 

569
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:26,300
security guard but then was shot
to death by cops before I even 

570
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:30,200
got out of the car and it turned
out that he had been put up to 

571
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,300
it by an FBI informant. 
The last thing, the FBI 

572
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:36,700
informant had said to the kid 
was go tear up Texas. 

573
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:40,200
You got this. 
And then that kid went and was 

574
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,300
going to kill people at this 
draw Muhammad contest. 

575
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,500
Just so happened, the cops were 
there, waiting for him and and 

576
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:50,000
kill them in the car. 
And these went on and on and on.

577
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Now, during this whole time 
during the bush years. 

578
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:57,300
Well, my show we would talk 
about how sooner or later. 

579
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,700
Entrapments, they won't have to 
rely on entrapments anymore. 

580
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,400
Because the reality is they 
never did hate us because we're 

581
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
free. 
They hated us because of George 

582
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Bush and Bill Clinton's foreign 
policy. 

583
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,700
And that's why they attacked us 
and what George W bush has done 

584
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,800
is just double down on that. 
And so there's no question that 

585
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,600
sooner or later. 
This policy is going to provoke 

586
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,200
new attacks against the United 
States and it's very difficult 

587
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200
for real Al-Qaeda guys to get 
into the country and plan 

588
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000
attacks, but that's where the 
so-called law. 

589
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Wolf's come in and they just get
radicalized read the internet 

590
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,300
or, you know, emailing back and 
forth with an Al-Qaeda guy. 

591
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Like Hassan guy did the attack 
in at Fort Hood where he 

592
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,000
attacked and killed American GIS
who were about to deploy to 

593
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Afghanistan. 
And he had been in contact with 

594
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,700
Anwar, al-aulaqi the al-Qaeda PR
guy basically. 

595
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,000
And, you know, we don't know. 
I don't think we know. 

596
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:00,200
Know exactly what they had 
emailed back and forth, but the 

597
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,200
FBI was on his case. 
The FBI knew that this guy was 

598
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,100
in contact with Anwar al-aulaqi 
and have been emailing back and 

599
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,500
forth with him. 
So were they watching him like a

600
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:10,400
hawk? 
Did they urge the Army to kick 

601
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,699
him out? 
And, you know, prevent his 

602
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:14,300
access. 
No, instead. 

603
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,400
They did nothing. 
They sat on their hands while 

604
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,000
this guy killed 13 G is before 
somebody, finally put him down 

605
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,800
and then you know, there's the 
San Bernardino attack. 

606
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:34,000
There's the Miami Orlando party,
Orlando, Florida attack where 

607
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,699
the guy attacked a gay 
nightclub. 

608
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:39,100
And, and this is a really 
important one to arm arm 

609
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,800
routine. 
They spun the whole thing. 

610
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,800
As he has this horrible Islamic 
religious bias against gay 

611
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,400
people and or maybe he was 
secretly gay himself and was 

612
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,600
having a crisis of identity 
here. 

613
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,900
And that, that was his motive 
and it finally came out after 

614
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,400
years. 
It came out during his wife's 

615
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:05,000
trial, that there was actually 
no indication whatsoever that 

616
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,400
this guy was biased against gays
or was gay himself or any of 

617
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,600
that narrative at all. 
The only reason he chose the 

618
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Pulse Nightclub is because he 
first wanted to attack Disney 

619
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
World, but decided that they had
to go to security. 

620
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:25,500
And so instead he decided to he 
just Googled nightclub, and he 

621
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:29,300
picked Google's first result for
Club in Orlando. 

622
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800
And that was why he hit the 
Pulse Nightclub. 

623
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,700
And so, but for years, his 
motive was completely obscured. 

624
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:39,600
When in fact, he had written on 
Facebook and had told the 911 

625
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,900
operator that this was all about
American foreign policy, bombing

626
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:45,300
Syria bombing, Iraq, bombing 
Afghanistan. 

627
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200
And so, then there's the guy 
that did the sidewalk. 

628
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,300
Luckily, the bombings that 
didn't kill anybody on the 

629
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:55,100
sidewalks in New York and New 
Jersey, during those races was 

630
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,900
also motivated by American 
foreign policy. 

631
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,400
See, that guy, that tried to 
blow up Times Square in 2010. 

632
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,300
Faisal, shahzad. 
He was a naturalized American 

633
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,900
citizen with an advanced degree,
a big house, a wife, and a car, 

634
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:12,200
and good job, and all of these 
things and was living, the 

635
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,000
American dream better than a lot
of us. 

636
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,300
Then he went home to Pakistan 
and he saw the results of an 

637
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:22,700
American drone strike there and 
was recruited by the tarika 

638
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:24,600
Taliban. 
That's the Pakistani Taliban 

639
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
that had never attacked us 
before had no motive to attack 

640
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,900
us at all. 
Is a separate. 

641
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,800
Entirely from the Afghan Taliban
which also had never attacked 

642
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,600
the United States by the way, 
but then he tried to set off 

643
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,000
this bomb. 
They trained him and he tried to

644
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,500
set off this bomb in Times 
Square which luckily failed. 

645
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:42,400
But could have killed many 
civilians there. 

646
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,900
And on during his trial, the 
judge said, how dare you, how 

647
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:48,700
could you do this? 
There's women and children 

648
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:51,000
around. 
And he says, well, your drone 

649
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,100
bombing my country right now. 
You think the Drone operators, 

650
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:55,300
look? 
And then don't fire. 

651
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,900
If there's women and children, 
they kill women and children. 

652
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600
All the time. 
That's exactly the same thing. 

653
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,500
That's why I'm doing this, the 
Boston attack the and this is 

654
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:10,600
one where just like as we 
predicted not only will Bush and

655
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,500
Obama's foreign policy. 
Provoke more attacks, you know 

656
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:18,000
real attacks against us, but at 
the same time you're going to 

657
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,200
have and these are my words 
someday. 

658
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,300
We're going to be able to 
transcribe automatically all my 

659
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,600
old shows and you'll be able to 
find you'll be able to search 

660
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,900
and find where years. 
Previously, I had warned that. 

661
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:31,700
While the FBI's chasing, their 
tail screwing around and 

662
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:35,000
trapping some retarded kid down.
At the Islamic bookstore. 

663
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:36,800
You can have real terrorist 
attacks. 

664
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,200
Unfolding real plots unfolding 
right under their noses. 

665
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,100
And that's exactly what happened
in. 

666
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:47,500
Boston where the Russians, the 
evil vile Vladimir Putin had 

667
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,700
warned the United States. 
That these boys were living in 

668
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:52,700
Dagestan and were messing 
around. 

669
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:56,300
With jihadists, were piling 
around with very dangerous 

670
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,100
people. 
And so, you should be very Be 

671
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:03,200
careful about them. 
Well, the FBI, the Boston FBI 

672
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,700
was right in the middle of a 
bogus, entrapment case and all 

673
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:10,300
of their terrorist guys. 
All their anti-terrorist 

674
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:14,000
personnel were focused on this 
fake entrapment while the 

675
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,500
tsarnayev brothers, blew up the 
Boston Marathon and killed three

676
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:21,400
people. 
And then hilariously the younger

677
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,300
brother crush, the older brother
to death in his getaway. 

678
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,000
So that was kind of hilarious, 
but then The younger brother was

679
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,700
snuck into a boat that was his 
hiding place when he ran away. 

680
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:38,300
He climbed under the tarp of a 
boat and he had carved into the 

681
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:42,200
inside wall in the fiberglass of
the boat that his motive was all

682
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,800
about Afghanistan, America's war
in Afghanistan. 

683
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,000
Was the motive for him to 
continue attacking the United 

684
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,700
States and you might be familiar
Keith with this reporter from 

685
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,900
The New York Times named Thomas 
Gibbons Neff, who for a New York

686
00:38:57,900 --> 00:38:59,800
Times Reporter. 
I really respect him. 

687
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,400
I don't agree. 
We don't like everything he 

688
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,800
writes but he does good work a 
lot of times and he's a former 

689
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,300
Marine and he had written 
previously. 

690
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,400
He worked for the Washington 
Post before the New York Times, 

691
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,300
and he had written a thing in 
the Washington post about how 

692
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:17,300
there he was in Afghanistan. 
When he heard about the Austin 

693
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,900
marathon attack, and he said 
we'll wait a minute. 

694
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,200
I've been telling myself this 
whole time, that the reason I'm 

695
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,800
over here, putting myself at 
risk, is to be a magnet for 

696
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,600
these bad guys, that they will 
come, and try to mess with me 

697
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600
way out here in the wilderness 
and Afghanistan. 

698
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,200
And I'll draw them to me and 
I'll kill him good and by doing.

699
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,200
So, I'll keep my people safe 
back home, but wait a minute, if

700
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,300
my presence in Afghanistan is 
what's causing people to attack 

701
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:52,800
civilians back home. 
Hell, am I doing here? 

702
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,000
Aha. 
Yeah, and it turns out, it 

703
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,000
wasn't Freedom. 
It was George Bush and Bill 

704
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,300
Clinton's foreign policy that 
they hated that motivated them 

705
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:06,400
to attack Us. 
In the first place, it always 

706
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,100
was what America had done to 
them first. 

707
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:12,600
And so what is George w--? 
Bush? 

708
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,100
Going to admit that, this is all
his father's fault. 

709
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,300
And his best friend, his 
stepbrother adopted step 

710
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,900
brother, Bill Clinton that they 
were the ones who had done this.

711
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,500
Nope. 
Instead, they blame it all on 

712
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,000
Americans, innocence, and then 
they tell you that if we don't 

713
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,700
go and kill a million more 
innocence than somebody's going 

714
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:33,900
to Nuke you in your jammies in 
the middle of the night. 

715
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,000
And so our only choice is to go 
over there and make war. 

716
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:40,000
And what's funny is again with 
the counterfactual here with 

717
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,500
Iraq about having to go to Iraq.
Well colon Powell was the 

718
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,000
Secretary of State. 
He was a former four-star 

719
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,100
general chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff. 

720
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,700
He He was the four-star general 
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 

721
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,500
Staff at the time of Iraq, war 
one. 

722
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:05,100
So he quite personally had 
overseen the destruction of a 

723
00:41:05,107 --> 00:41:08,300
rock's military. 
Their water, their sewage, their

724
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:11,600
electricity, their hospitals are
everything you're telling me. 

725
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,300
He's not tough enough to send 
over there to read the riot act 

726
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:19,200
to Saddam Hussein and maybe 
colon Powell was just an old 

727
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,000
marshmallow an old softy by then
despite him covering up the My 

728
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,700
Lai massacre. 
Our and despite him being Ronald

729
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,400
Reagan's National Security 
advisor, maybe by the time of 

730
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,600
2002. 
He was the wimp that Dick Cheney

731
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,300
said, he was okay. 
So send Dick Cheney. 

732
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:39,500
Then, send Donald Rumsfeld back 
over there. 

733
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,300
We know that Donald Rumsfeld 
went over there to make a deal 

734
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,000
with him and to agree that 
America would back him in the 

735
00:41:45,008 --> 00:41:48,300
war against Iran and to try to 
pressure him to build a pipeline

736
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:49,900
to Jordan. 
At the time. 

737
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:51,500
The Bechtel was supposed to 
build. 

738
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,700
Why can't? 
We send Donald Rumsfeld? 

739
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,700
Back over there, in 2002, to 
tell, Saddam Hussein. 

740
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:00,200
Listen, we're going to let you 
keep your clean shaven, chin and

741
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,600
your French beret. 
As long as you promise to keep, 

742
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,100
I'll cater down. 
And that's all they had to do 

743
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:11,000
some time. 
Hussein had every interest in 

744
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,800
the world to hunt and kill 
Al-Qaeda guys and no interest 

745
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,700
whatsoever in a line with them 
against the United States and 

746
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:22,200
George. 
Bush's government knew that and 

747
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,100
that war has engendered and 
spread more terrorism throughout

748
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:30,600
the world than any other thing. 
And before Obama even took 

749
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,600
office, Bush wants to claim 
America was Untouched by 

750
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:36,800
terrorist attacks for the To his
terms. 

751
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:42,400
Well, what about the Europeans? 
They had massive attacks in 

752
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,300
Spain and England and France and
all over the place. 

753
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,100
There are a lot easier to get to
Western targets. 

754
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:52,400
Are a lot easier to get to and 
even though those countries had 

755
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,400
not attacked Iraq. 
So Iraq hadn't attacked us 

756
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,600
either, but they were close 
enough of a Target to be 

757
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:02,300
targeted, and the Spanish were 
targeted clearly because they 

758
00:43:02,308 --> 00:43:05,800
did help us invade Iraq and that
got them blown up. 

759
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:11,500
And so there's one more point. 
I was going to make about what 

760
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:17,000
he said there. 
Good. 

761
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,600
A couple sources that I want to 
go over for the things. 

762
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,900
You said. 
Here's the New York Times, 2012,

763
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:29,800
April 29th, terrorist plots, 
helped Along by the FBI 

764
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,500
undercover agents and informers 
posed, as terrorists offering a 

765
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:38,100
dummy missile, fake C-4 
explosives, a disarm suicide, a 

766
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,300
disarmed suicide, vest and 
rudimentary training. 

767
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,500
When Oregon college student, 
Muhammad Ali Osman Muhammad 

768
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:47,700
thought of using Car Bomb to 
attack a festive, Kristen 

769
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:51,100
Christmas tree lighting, 
ceremony in Portland the FBI 

770
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:56,300
provided a van loaded with six 
55-gallon, Drums of inert 

771
00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,200
material, harmless blasting 
caps, a Detonator cord and a 

772
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,300
gallon of diesel fuel to make 
the van. 

773
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:07,200
Smell flammable, an undercover 
FBI agent, even did the driving.

774
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:10,800
He finishes with saying of the 
22 most frightening plans for 

775
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,500
attacks. 
Since 9/11 on American soil, 14 

776
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:17,700
were developed in In sting 
operations, it's not easy. 

777
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,600
To tell the difference, the I'm 
more than that more than that. 

778
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,200
If you re Trevor, Aaronson 
spoke, the terror factory, 

779
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:28,700
there's, you know, probably, you
know, 150 of these things. 

780
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,700
I am just outright con jobs. 
I also want to cite from page 51

781
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,200
of Fool's. 
Errand, you had mentioned the US

782
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,100
was offered Bin Laden. 
You cite three sources. 

783
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:44,600
White House says no to Taliban 
offer demand for proof. 

784
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,900
CBS News. 
September 21st, 2001, the guard 

785
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,200
IPS news, u.s. 
Refusal of 2001, Taliban offer 

786
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:55,800
gave Ben Laden. 
A free pass u.s. 

787
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Reject new Taliban offer ABC 
News, October 14th, Bush 

788
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,500
projects, Taliban offer, 
Washington, Post new offer on 

789
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:05,900
Bin Laden the guardian. 
So in other words, this was like

790
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:09,800
open everyone knew that there 
was an offer and it just didn't 

791
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,100
take place. 
The final thing. 

792
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:16,500
You mentioned was the military 
tactic of Having someone used 

793
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:20,000
their resources and bringing 
them in to diminish, their 

794
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,500
overall power. 
This is well known in a 

795
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,300
document. 
I think you've cited it before 

796
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:27,500
by zbigniew Brzezinski, where he
says. 

797
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,800
Hey Jimmy Carter, we could have 
the soap we could give this 

798
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,400
Soviets their Vietnam by pulling
them into Afghanistan. 

799
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:37,200
It's like they trained the 
mujahideen to do the very same 

800
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,700
thing that they want to do to 
the current empires in America, 

801
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,500
and if people want to read the 
brzezinski's note to Carter, You

802
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:47,900
can just go to Scott. 
Horton, dot org, slash fair. 

803
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,200
Use. 
And I have for you right there. 

804
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:53,900
The Jimmy, Carter's executive 
order ordering the beginning of 

805
00:45:53,908 --> 00:45:58,800
support, for the mujahideen on 
July 3rd, 1979 and submitting 

806
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,700
presents Keys, note to Carter in
December. 

807
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:05,500
When the Soviets did invade 
that. 

808
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:08,600
Now we have our opportunity of 
giving them their own Vietnam 

809
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,500
and then very famously. 
There's also his interview with 

810
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:14,700
the French magazine where he 
brags about it. 

811
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,000
And It says and I told Jimmy 
Carter now's our chance. 

812
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,900
And so, you know, such an 
important point that listen. 

813
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,700
What does it mean to give them 
their own Vietnam? 

814
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,900
Well, what's Vietnam a great 
Victory? 

815
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,600
No Vietnam is a massive no-win 
Quagmire. 

816
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,300
That breaks the bank that 
divides Society back home that 

817
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:42,600
weakens your own country. 
It's a trap yet. 

818
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,800
We had set for ourselves in 
Vietnam. 

819
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,100
So then one of the parts of the 
aftermath of that was what was 

820
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:54,400
called the lamented Vietnam 
syndrome, where the Americans 

821
00:46:54,400 --> 00:47:00,500
had this reluctance to go to war
that amounted to an illness that

822
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:04,000
they just didn't want to go on 
these anymore of these wars 

823
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,600
around the world. 
And so what they decided was 

824
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,700
people like zbigniew Brzezinski 
and Walter slow coming others. 

825
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:15,500
Had said, we'll listen if we had
the Vietnam syndrome and And the

826
00:47:15,508 --> 00:47:18,900
American people are reluctant to
continue containing communism. 

827
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:23,200
In the way that we done before. 
Maybe we'll turn it around and 

828
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,700
maybe will bait the Russians 
into over expansion and bog them

829
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,800
down. 
Give them their own Vietnam. 

830
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:32,700
In order to help to destroy 
communism. 

831
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,300
And then Keith. 
You can't deny it worked. 

832
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:39,100
I mean, the fact that they, the 
Soviets withdrew from 

833
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:45,100
Afghanistan in 1989 one year 
after the wall, came down, and 

834
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:50,500
One year, I guess, two years 
before the final dissolution of 

835
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:54,800
the Soviet Union that ain't a 
correlation without causation. 

836
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Man. 
There's a that is one of the 

837
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,100
straws that broke the Soviet 
Union's back help to destroy 

838
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,700
them. 
If you ask the reaganites, 

839
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:04,500
they'll tell you you can find 
you know, the Hoover 

840
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:06,800
institution, the reaganite 
saying. 

841
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,200
Yeah, and that's how we helped 
destroy communism was by 

842
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,000
supporting the mujahideen in 
Vietnam, right? 

843
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,100
Well, I mean part me in 
Afghanistan, too. 

844
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:18,900
The Soviets their own Vietnam. 
Well, of course, the mujahideen 

845
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:20,700
learned the same lesson and the 
mujahideen. 

846
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,500
In this case, wasn't just 
Afghans. 

847
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:26,900
It was the Arab Afghan Army that
the CIA, the Saudis and the 

848
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,300
pakistanis recruited. 
Not just from the Arab world, 

849
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:33,300
but from Indonesia and chechnya 
and the Philippines and all over

850
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:37,800
the Muslim world to go and fight
in that war, but they all took 

851
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,600
the credit for themselves. 
They didn't give the credit to 

852
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,400
Ronald Reagan, and the CIA, they
give the credit to Allah. 

853
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:49,200
And it k47 and said, We 
destroyed the Godless atheist 

854
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,900
satanic, Soviet Union. 
And all we had to do was believe

855
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:56,500
in Fight Hard. 
And so they took the very same 

856
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:00,600
lesson and Bin Laden said all 
through the 1990s that this was 

857
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,800
his motive. 
He was open about this before 

858
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,300
the war ever started yet. 
What he was trying to do was 

859
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:11,600
lure us into of Vietnam. 
Type Quagmire when Bill, Clinton

860
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,100
pulled out of Somalia after 
Black Hawk Down in 1990. 

861
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:20,700
Re Bin Laden lamented. 
That it had been his men who had

862
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,400
shot down the Black Hawk and 
that it was a deliberate 

863
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,800
provocation because they were 
trying to provoke Bill Clinton 

864
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:32,900
into doubling down the war into 
a war of attrition. 

865
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,900
So he could give us our own 
Vietnam, bog us down. 

866
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:39,900
Bleed us to bankruptcy and force
us out the hard way. 

867
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,600
However, many somalis had to die
and that he was not concerned. 

868
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:47,000
He was, you know, had his eye on
the bigger prize. 

869
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,400
And then once he was exiled from
Sudan and forced to go to 

870
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,900
Afghanistan in 1996, he said 
over and over again that this 

871
00:49:54,900 --> 00:50:00,200
was the plan to bog us down. 
Bleed us to bankruptcy and you 

872
00:50:00,207 --> 00:50:02,900
know, James Bamford. 
I don't know if I ever found 

873
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:07,000
this original quote that James 
Bamford in his book, a pretext 

874
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,400
for war, says a Bin Laden saw 
himself in this plan. 

875
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,000
He wanted to bog us down. 
And give us our own Vietnam, he 

876
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,500
saw himself in the role of Ho 
Chi Minh. 

877
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,500
And barges downplayed us to 
bankruptcy. 

878
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:26,500
And then as I told you earlier, 
once the war happened, he wrote 

879
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:29,000
this letter to mullah Omar 
saying, don't worry. 

880
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,300
It's going to be just like we 
did to the Soviets where we 

881
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:33,800
bought him down, bleed him to 
bankruptcy and force them out 

882
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,900
the hard way. 
Then, of course, there's the 

883
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:39,700
famous Beach of 2004, just 
before the election, where he 

884
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:43,500
says, this is our plan is just 
as we did to the Russians. 

885
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:46,800
Just as you did to yourselves in
Vietnam, we're doing to you now,

886
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:51,600
so ask yourself then It's been 
ever since King Walter slocombe.

887
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:57,800
We're so smart back in 1979 that
this was their plan to destroy. 

888
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,400
The Soviet Union would be to 
trick them into trying to tame 

889
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,300
Afghanistan. 
How in the world could these 

890
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:07,300
same people? 
I mean, Burzynski only died two 

891
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:09,700
years ago or something. 
How could any of Walter 

892
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:11,400
slocombe? 
I mean, I don't know what his 

893
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,700
job is now but he was one of the
guys that dissolved the Iraqi 

894
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,100
Army. 
He was working for George w-- 

895
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:21,800
Bush during at least in 2003. 
So I don't know exactly where he

896
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,900
was during the invasion of 
Afghanistan, but you would think

897
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,200
he might have picked up the 
phone and said, you know, this 

898
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,900
was our plan to destroy the 
Soviet Union was to get them to 

899
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:35,400
give themselves their own. 
In Afghanistan, we should be 

900
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,700
really careful that we don't do 
this to ourselves. 

901
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,600
Now, in fact, and there are 
indications that Donald 

902
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,900
Rumsfeld, understood this to, 
they talked about this in 

903
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:47,400
Woodward's book bullshit War. 
This was one of the reasons that

904
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,700
they didn't, this is at least 
one of their excuses. 

905
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:55,700
Keith for not sending enough 
troops to Corner Al Qaeda at 

906
00:51:55,700 --> 00:52:00,500
Tora Bora and finish the job. 
There was, we don't want to send

907
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:03,300
too many of our own troops and 
get bogged down. 

908
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:07,200
In too big of a mission in a 
costly mission of trying to 

909
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,000
pacify Afghanistan, but of 
course you see the bait and 

910
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,900
switch right there. 
Who said anything about 

911
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:14,400
pacifying Afghanistan. 
We're talking about cornering, 

912
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,300
the Saudis and Egyptians and a 
few chechens and whoever that 

913
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,400
you have, you know, cornered in 
the nangarhar province. 

914
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,800
We're trying to get them. 
And then it turned out that they

915
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,900
expanded the mission to full 
regime change in Kabul and 

916
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,500
create a new government and 
declare war against all its 

917
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,100
enemies and everything. 
So now it's 20 years later. 

918
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:38,500
We're still there, but that was 
one of their excuses at the 

919
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:42,300
time, was that they understood 
good and well that this is a 

920
00:52:42,308 --> 00:52:47,100
sand trap and we should avoid it
and then they decided to double 

921
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:53,100
triple quadruple down anyway. 
What was the United States role 

922
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:56,300
in invading Libya under the 
Obama Administration? 

923
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,800
Okay, so, you know, this is one 
of the ones that they call 

924
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,400
leading from behind and try to 
say oh no, it's I saw someone 

925
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,000
the other day. 
Was arguing that America didn't 

926
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,100
have anything to do with that. 
That was the French and the 

927
00:53:10,107 --> 00:53:12,500
British that did that, but 
that's just not true. 

928
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,300
And the French and the British 
were waiting on Obama to give 

929
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,800
them the okay. 
And Obama was the one who gave 

930
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,400
the okay. 
And in fact, just in his speech 

931
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,900
in while he was traveling in 
Brazil. 

932
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,000
He said okay, we're going to war
everybody and then he relied on 

933
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,800
a ridiculous lie. 
A Preposterous lie that Qaddafi 

934
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,300
had sworn that he was going to 
murder every last. 

935
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,200
Man woman and child in the city 
of Benghazi, if we didn't get in

936
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,000
there and stop him. 
And that would be the equivalent

937
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,100
of letting someone kill every 
last man woman and child in the 

938
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:49,200
city of Charlotte. 
That's, you know, that was a 

939
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,800
relative size that Obama cited 
in Charlotte North Carolina. 

940
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,200
And so that was why we had to 
start to war. 

941
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,000
And at the beginning of the war,
it was all American planes, air 

942
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,700
force, and navy planes, that did
all of the original shock and 

943
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:08,500
awe attacks. 
And it was a combination of 

944
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:11,800
American French and British 
Special Operations forces on the

945
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,700
ground that led the mujahideen 
through the war and that is who 

946
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:18,500
it was. 
And, you know, I'll encourage 

947
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:22,000
your audience because it's a 
hoot to go and watch Michael 

948
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,700
Shaw. 
Sure that's sche yu-er. 

949
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:30,800
Go type in Michael scheuer CNN, 
Libya, and you'll see Michael 

950
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,500
shore, on CNN when he gets in a 
fight with the to Anchor, 

951
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,700
ladies. 
Because he's saying, Look, the 

952
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:41,000
fighters in this war against 
Qaddafi right now, in any other 

953
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,100
War, we would call them the 
mujahideen. 

954
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,500
That's who they are. 
These are the guys who are the 

955
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:48,000
Libyan Veterans of Iraq. 
War two. 

956
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,300
They just got back from Iraq, 
where they were fighting with 

957
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:54,600
zarqawi. 
They were the worst part of part

958
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,500
of the worst, part of the Sunni 
base Insurgency that the 

959
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:00,600
Americans were fighting in Iraq 
war two. 

960
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,600
And now they've come home to 
Libya, and they've set their 

961
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,400
sights on Qaddafi and the The 
CNN lady says, oh, come on. 

962
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,100
Mr. CIA officer. 
You must not know what you're 

963
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,600
talking about. 
Because when the CIA officers be

964
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,500
vetting these guys and sure he 
says well, yeah. 

965
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:20,900
Sure. 
The the CIA is vetting. 

966
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,700
The guys that come to be vetted 
by the CIA. 

967
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:27,200
But everybody else isn't talking
to the CIA. 

968
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,700
They're just going to be taking 
advantage of the entire 

969
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:34,300
situation and they're going to 
ultimately be the winners and 

970
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:38,400
the the CNN ladies like well, We
just refuse to believe that 

971
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,300
because we don't want to because
this is an American war and it's

972
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:43,900
great and sure he's like, yeah. 
Well, so what you're just 

973
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:47,200
carrying water for mr. 
Obama, you don't want to know 

974
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,900
the truth that what we're doing 
is, we're taking the side of our

975
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:52,200
enemies in this thing. 
And they're like, oh sure. 

976
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:54,200
Yeah, right. 
Like we would carry water for 

977
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,900
Barack Obama. 
I think we you've had your say, 

978
00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:57,600
mr. 
Sure. 

979
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,800
You have a nice day now and they
hang up on them. 

980
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,200
And that was probably the last 
time he was ever on CNN. 

981
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000
And then what happened? 
Who was it? 

982
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,100
It was Al Qaeda in Iraq. 
It was the Libyan Veterans of 

983
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:12,500
al-Qaeda and Iraq. 
They had been, you know, the, 

984
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:15,700
the British MI6 had helped 
create the Libyan Islamic 

985
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:18,100
fighting group in the first 
place and try to use them to 

986
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,000
kill. 
Qaddafi, back in 2000. 

987
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,100
Then they became the bad guys 
again for a little while. 

988
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:27,100
And then in Iraq war to, then 
when they came home from Iraq 

989
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:30,400
war, two, they decide. 
Oh, yeah, it's our old friends 

990
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,100
in the Libyan, Islamic fighting 
group. 

991
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,000
We're not going to call him aqi 
anymore. 

992
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,500
Now, we're going to call them 
LIF. 

993
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:40,800
G and ansar al-sharia. 
And these are moderate Rebels 

994
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,400
and everything will be fine. 
And then and this included a guy

995
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,400
named huh? 
CD. 

996
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,000
Who told the telegraph? 
Yeah. 

997
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:51,300
I'm a veteran of Iraq. 
War to where I killed Americans.

998
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:54,400
What of it? 
Okay, I guess nothing, no 

999
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,300
problem. 
Go ahead. 

1000
00:56:55,700 --> 00:57:01,100
And then this guy Abdul Hakim, 
El hadj had been abducted by the

1001
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:05,000
CIA and the British and tortured
in Thailand for being an 

1002
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,500
associate of Bin Laden and then 
had been rendered back to Libya,

1003
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,200
where Qaddafi had him in prison,
but Qaddafi, let him go because 

1004
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,300
that was one of the demands of 
the International Community. 

1005
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:18,500
Was you got to let all your 
mujahideen out of prison. 

1006
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:23,200
And so he gave in to that demand
and let this guy and There's 

1007
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,500
out. 
This guy ended up after Obama 

1008
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:30,600
put him in power in Tripoli. 
He sued. 

1009
00:57:30,700 --> 00:57:31,800
Now. 
There's no such thing as 

1010
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,800
anything like the rule of law in
America. 

1011
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,800
So that went nowhere, but in 
Britain, he actually sued and 

1012
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,400
won. 
At least through like a couple 

1013
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,700
of appellate levels. 
He sued to MI6 for kidnapping 

1014
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:45,600
and torturing him and the 
British courts. 

1015
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,900
Let the case go through. 
I don't know if he finally won 

1016
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:52,800
or what but then you know, this 
is part. 

1017
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:55,300
Of the story of what happened to
Ambassador Stevens. 

1018
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:59,700
In 2012, September 11 2012. 
The American ambassador to Libya

1019
00:57:59,700 --> 00:58:02,000
was killed. 
Well, first of all, it took nine

1020
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,700
months for the mujahideen and 
American and Allied air power to

1021
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:10,700
win the war, and then Qaddafi 
was hunted down and raped with a

1022
00:58:10,707 --> 00:58:13,400
Bayonet and then shot in the 
back of the head, on the side of

1023
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,600
the road, and then approximately
a year after that Ambassador 

1024
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,300
Stevens. 
And some others at the makeshift

1025
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:24,800
Consulate in Benghazi, were Old.
Well, first question, why 

1026
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,100
weren't they in Tripoli? 
What were they doing it in 

1027
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,200
Benghazi? 
And of course, the answer is, 

1028
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,800
this was Hillary Clinton's bank 
shot, as the New York Times 

1029
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,100
reported it. 
Her bank shot to take all the 

1030
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:41,200
mujahideen and all the weapons 
from Libya and start funneling 

1031
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,100
them on to Syria for the next 
regime change in favor of 

1032
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:48,400
al-Qaeda, against another 
secular socialist dictator. 

1033
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,500
And so that's why they were in 
Benghazi, is They were running 

1034
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:57,900
guns and terrorists off to Syria
the qataris were, you know, 

1035
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:01,700
mostly, you know, running the 
thing but the CIA was overseeing

1036
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:04,600
the whole thing and and 
Ambassador was helping to 

1037
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,300
coordinate it. 
Well, guess what? 

1038
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Just because you love Al Qaeda. 
Don't mean that they love you 

1039
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,200
now and so just because these 
guys saw tone. 

1040
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,800
Good. 
It's the Reagan years again, and

1041
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,700
we can tour the Bill Clinton 
years. 

1042
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:17,500
We can go back to back in these 
guys. 

1043
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Well, they still hate your guts.
And what happened was Obama and 

1044
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:33,500
the CIA had done a drone strike 
in in Pakistan, that had killed 

1045
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:36,200
a guy named shaykh Yahya 
al-libi. 

1046
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:41,200
Now you might recognize the name
Al Libby because shaykh Yahya 

1047
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,100
Libby's brother. 
I forgot his first name now, off

1048
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:47,300
the top of my head, but his 
brother had been the guy that 

1049
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:51,000
Dick Cheney and the CIA and the 
Egyptians tortured into Pointing

1050
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,700
the finger at Saddam Hussein 
back in 2002. 

1051
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:58,000
Oh, yeah, Saddam Hussein. 
He taught us Al-Qaeda guys, how 

1052
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,800
to make chemical weapons, and 
how to hijack airplanes and all 

1053
01:00:00,808 --> 01:00:03,400
this. 
And in fact, the CIA themselves.

1054
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,100
We know now the CIA debunked 
this and so we don't believe him

1055
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,900
because we hired the Egyptians 
to torture, it out of them. 

1056
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:12,300
And so this is not really 
reliable data, but don't worry 

1057
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,200
colon Powell used it in his UN 
speech to lie us in a war 

1058
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:23,800
anyway, but then in 2012 in July
of And 12 CIA killed his brother

1059
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,100
Yaya Libby, in a drone, strike 
in Pakistan. 

1060
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,400
And right after that. 
I'm an Alzheimer or like a month

1061
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,100
later. 
Something. 

1062
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,700
I'm an all-zero way he re 
because Bin Laden was dead by 

1063
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:35,900
then. 
It's all way here. 

1064
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:39,300
He put out a podcast saying, 
okay. 

1065
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,100
It's time to avenge our great 
Libyan friend. 

1066
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,100
Shaykh. 
Yahya al-libi, who was murdered 

1067
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:50,400
by the Americans. 
Hey, friendly Libyan mujahideen.

1068
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:54,300
I hear that you guys have some 
Americans in your midst who 

1069
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:56,800
think that they're so clever 
that they're using you and 

1070
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,200
Syria. 
Well, now's your chance and hey,

1071
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,300
the anniversary of September 
11th is coming up. 

1072
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,500
And so then what happened on 
September 11th, ansar, al-sharia

1073
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:11,600
attacked and killed, the 
American ambassador and, you 

1074
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,300
know, some of his handlers and a
couple of CIA guys to who were 

1075
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:19,600
at the house down the road. 
And so then this is a great 

1076
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,200
story because it's the 
definition of the modified 

1077
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,100
limited hangout, right? 
So first of all, a limited hang 

1078
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:27,800
out. 
And that phrase was, I believe, 

1079
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,300
coined by Richard, Nixon 
himself, in discussions with 

1080
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:33,600
ehrlichman and Haldeman. 
His right-hand men. 

1081
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:40,100
A so a limited hangout is like 
when a kid admits that he did 

1082
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:42,600
something wrong because he's 
trying to prevent you from 

1083
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,100
finding out what he really did. 
That was really that bad. 

1084
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,500
So he confesses halfway and 
government. 

1085
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:49,000
Does that a lot? 
Right? 

1086
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,800
So they said, well, you know, 
you know, the problem here was 

1087
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,500
that we didn't have enough 
security and so our guy got 

1088
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:04,000
killed and yeah, okay, but then 
here's the modified. 

1089
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,700
Let it hang out. 
The modified limited hangout is 

1090
01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:12,600
when you lie about your limited 
hangout and so ago. 

1091
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:16,600
Yeah, you know what it was. 
It was a big protest over this 

1092
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:21,200
video on YouTube that got out of
hand and turn into a riot, and 

1093
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,400
that's what killed the guys. 
So, now you're telling a half 

1094
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,800
story and you're lying about the
half a story to. 

1095
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:32,300
So, everybody gets all caught up
fighting over whether this 

1096
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:36,300
YouTube video, the innocence of 
Muslims had caused the riot or 

1097
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:38,700
not and they get all caught up 
over. 

1098
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:41,700
How much security should have 
been there or not? 

1099
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,100
And then only 1% of people are 
asking the question. 

1100
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:48,300
Why are these guys in Benghazi? 
And Tripoli? 

1101
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,000
Yeah, what was even going on 
there at all? 

1102
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,800
Oh, you were working with the 
qataris to funnel. 

1103
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,200
A bunch of al-Qaeda. 
Terrorists off to Syria and you 

1104
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,300
had station your Ambassador in 
the middle of a hornet's nest, 

1105
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:02,600
and now you're surprised that he
got stunk. 

1106
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:05,600
Right. 
So that's the real truth. 

1107
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:10,900
But the modified limited hangout
ended up and look, you know, the

1108
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:14,400
way they use the word gate after
every Scandal, you know, like 

1109
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,900
Watergate, but now it's like 
Lewinsky gate and whatever gate.

1110
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:22,700
Right? 
Well now Ghazi has become kind 

1111
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:26,700
of a joke like gate only. 
This is when it's a fake Scandal

1112
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,200
because the Republicans spent 
years holding all these 

1113
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,800
hearings. 
Remember, Trey Gaudi, and all 

1114
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,200
these guys holding all these 
Hearings about. 

1115
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,900
Well, was it really a riot over 
the over the video or not and 

1116
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,400
how much security was there or 
not? 

1117
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,600
And the Democrats saw this to be
essentially, just a completely 

1118
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,900
trumped up Scandal, a fake 
Scandal meant to just hurt 

1119
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:53,300
Obama, even though it was simply
a matter of bad things happen 

1120
01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:55,100
sometimes, or something like 
that. 

1121
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:58,800
So, now whenever there's a fake 
Scandal, they'll add Ghazi on 

1122
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,500
the end. 
And in fact, I've even see like 

1123
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:04,300
left Wingers who are good. 
On Russia gate because they're 

1124
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,800
not Democrats there to left for 
the Democrats. 

1125
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:09,400
And so they'll call it Russia 
Ghazi. 

1126
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:14,400
Oh, yeah, Russia Ghazi and 
that's means of fake Scandal 

1127
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:18,500
that's built out of nothing. 
But of course that comes from 

1128
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,600
how fake the modified limited 
hangout was not how fake the 

1129
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,900
real Scandal behind the death of
the Ambassador and the entire 

1130
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:30,500
operation that was going on in 
Benghazi. 

1131
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:33,200
And by the way, what if they 
told the truth at that time? 

1132
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:35,800
Or what if the truth had come 
out and they hadn't been able to

1133
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:42,500
suppress it. 
Well, then maybe just maybe the 

1134
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,800
the pressure for the 
intervention in Syria would have

1135
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,700
been lessened. 
And the argument on behalf of 

1136
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:51,700
staying out of Syria would have 
been strengthened that look from

1137
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:54,100
the beginning. 
These guys aren't moderates if 

1138
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:55,900
they're so moderate. 
How come they killed our 

1139
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:59,000
ambassador in Libya. 
They never were moderates. 

1140
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,500
Their Al-Qaeda, guys. 
They always were and there were 

1141
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:05,400
Different armed, factions that 
rose up. 

1142
01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:11,200
But within the first year of the
war in Syria, the entire 

1143
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:15,300
opposition was dominated by Al 
Qaeda in Iraq who had come 

1144
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:18,600
across the border from Iraq, 
they'd been almost entirely 

1145
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,200
eliminated by the Iraqi sunnis 
and then Obama came and 

1146
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,500
resuscitated them right back to 
life and gave them a whole new 

1147
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:28,400
Battle Ground to fight in. 
And then allied with turkey, 

1148
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,000
Israel, Saudi and Qatar, 
billions and billions of dollars

1149
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,500
in Cold Hard Cash. 
And weapons to fight that war 

1150
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:39,200
that ended up lasting for five 
years and grew into the actual 

1151
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,400
Islamic State. 
The islamofascist caliphate of 

1152
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,100
George, Bush's, ridiculous 
propaganda and Osama. 

1153
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,300
Bin Laden's. 
Wildest Dreams actually did come

1154
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:55,100
true because Obama backed them 
in Syria and to such a degree 

1155
01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:58,000
that they ended up strong enough
that they were able to conquer 

1156
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,800
all of Western Iraq. 
And, and Eastern Syria, and 

1157
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Western Iraq, which Recitative 
then, Iraq war three that Obama 

1158
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,000
launched in August of 2014 and 
lasted through the end of 2017 

1159
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,100
there to destroy the Islamic 
State. 

1160
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,500
So who was the U s-- backing in 
Syria in operation Timber 

1161
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:22,700
Sycamore? 
Well, so it's beyond Timber, 

1162
01:06:22,700 --> 01:06:24,800
Sycamore Timber. 
Sycamore was just one part of 

1163
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:30,100
it, but overall, they were, I 
don't know if they ever directly

1164
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:33,100
backed the al-nusra front there,
but they didn't. 

1165
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:36,500
To all they needed was the 
slightest deniability, you know,

1166
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:39,700
the so-called moderate Rebel 
groups, like The al-farouq 

1167
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:45,100
Brigade, The hazem Brigade, the 
newer Al's Inky, and these other

1168
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:48,000
groups CIA would give the 
weapons and the money to them 

1169
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,300
and then they would turn it 
right over to the al-nusra 

1170
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:53,100
front. 
They would come and train with 

1171
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:56,300
the Americans in Jordan. 
And in Turkey, they get their 

1172
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:59,800
weapons, their training, their 
money, and then they turn right 

1173
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,500
around and go and join the ranks
of the al-nusra front. 

1174
01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:04,500
And they'll know, sir. 
A front is nothing but the 

1175
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:08,200
Syrian faction the Syrian 
dominated faction of al-Qaeda in

1176
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,900
Iraq from Iraq, war two. 
And so, then the split between 

1177
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:18,800
Isis and al-nusra came in 2013, 
when the leader of Isis decided,

1178
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,100
Well, Bin Laden's dead. 
And so he might have done what 

1179
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:27,500
Bin Laden said but whose Ayman 
al-zawahiri anyway, and and you 

1180
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:28,900
know, why should I listen to 
him? 

1181
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:31,900
And so I hurried was the guy who
said we have to attack the 

1182
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:34,900
United States first. 
We have to get rid of the far 

1183
01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:37,400
enemy first. 
Ballgame down, bleed them to 

1184
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,400
bankruptcy like the Soviets, 
force them out of the region. 

1185
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,700
Only then can we try to create 
our islamofascist caliphate? 

1186
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:45,800
Because otherwise, the Americans
will come and bomb it off the 

1187
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,700
face of the Earth again. 
And so baghdady said, well, nuts

1188
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:53,400
to you. 
I want my caliphate now and I 

1189
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,800
don't want to wait, you know, 
they had renamed al-Qaeda in 

1190
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,400
Iraq. 
They had renamed it, the Islamic

1191
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,700
State of Iraq, back in 2006, 
which at the time was kind of a 

1192
01:08:00,707 --> 01:08:03,100
joke because they had no ability
to create. 

1193
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,300
Date a state anywhere at all, 
but it also showed you where 

1194
01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:09,600
their head was at and what it 
was that they wanted out of all 

1195
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:14,600
of this. 
And so, by 2013, essentially, in

1196
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,500
the spring of 2013, the Iraqi 
dominated faction of al-Qaeda in

1197
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:22,399
Iraq, split off from the Syrian 
dominated faction of al-Qaeda in

1198
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,100
Iraq, which is known as Al 
nusra, and started going by 

1199
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,100
their old name. 
Again, the Islamic State of 

1200
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,500
Iraq. 
Now, they added and Syria or, 

1201
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:35,800
and the Levant and All right 
here he sent an emissary to come

1202
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:41,300
and negotiate to keep Isis in 
the al-Qaeda group and back, 

1203
01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:45,200
Daddy killed the Emissary and 
said to Zola, Harry you made 

1204
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,100
your law. 
Let's see you enforce it, right?

1205
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:51,700
Like Andrew Jackson and the 
Supreme Court on the Trail of 

1206
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:56,600
Tears. 
So then he Consolidated power 

1207
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,200
over Eastern Syria. 
And then, one year later, in the

1208
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,800
spring of 2014 rolled right into
Western Iraq, and so, none of 

1209
01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:07,800
this could have happened without
the US. 

1210
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,200
And in fact, that famous photo 
of the line of Toyota trucks 

1211
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,000
rolling in from Syria toward 
mosul, where'd all those trucks 

1212
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,399
come from? 
It came from Hillary Clinton, in

1213
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,300
the state department. 
They were the ones who arranged 

1214
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:23,600
for all those trucks. 
It was Barack Obama's government

1215
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,600
who had given all those trucks. 
There's a great story in Public 

1216
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,300
Radio International all about 
it. 

1217
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:29,500
And you might remember the 
story. 

1218
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:30,899
You can still find memes about 
this. 

1219
01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:35,700
Sometimes of there was a guy who
owned a plumbing company in 

1220
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:40,600
Corpus Christi, Texas who had 
his the name of his company in 

1221
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,500
the phone number on the side of 
his truck. 

1222
01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:47,000
It was a work truck and he had 
sold it to traded it in to a 

1223
01:09:47,008 --> 01:09:50,300
local car dealership for a new 
truck. 

1224
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:54,800
And then like half a year later,
there's footage coming out of 

1225
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,500
Syria of these terrorists. 
Firing a machine gun from the 

1226
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:01,600
back of his old truck, and 
people are calling the guy and 

1227
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,300
threatening to kill him and his 
kids because he's a traitor on 

1228
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:06,700
the side of the Terrace and all 
this stuff and he's like, come 

1229
01:10:06,700 --> 01:10:08,400
on man. 
I'm a plumber from Corpus. 

1230
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,500
I never left the thing. 
I'm a proud American Patriot. 

1231
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:12,600
I don't know what you're talking
about. 

1232
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,000
Well, of course what had 
happened was the state 

1233
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,100
department had bought his truck 
and had given it to these guys. 

1234
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:20,900
That's the only explanation for 
how that. 

1235
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:27,200
Gotten their hands on it. 
And so, you know, Obama claimed.

1236
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,500
In fact, there's a hilarious 
clip. 

1237
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:30,800
If you never seen this Keith, 
you got to look up this great 

1238
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,400
clip of Ben's Swan the 
libertarian former local news. 

1239
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:40,700
Anchor interviewing. 
Barack Obama and, Barack Obama 

1240
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,200
comes to his town and been swan 
has a chance to ask him some 

1241
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,600
questions. 
And I love the way he sets it up

1242
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,000
to, he goes, you know, right 
now, this is before we took Al 

1243
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,500
qaeda's side in This is when 
we're still fighting against al 

1244
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:54,800
Qaeda and Yemen, he goes right 
now. 

1245
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,200
You're you're hunting and 
killing got the CIA hunting and 

1246
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,600
killing these Al-Qaeda guys in 
Pakistan and in Yemen, fighting 

1247
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,500
this war against al queda, 
right? 

1248
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,800
And Obama's like haha. 
Yeah, and he was so how backing 

1249
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,800
out Caden Syria? 
No. 

1250
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,700
Bhagavato. 
I don't know what you're talking

1251
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:15,400
about. 
I don't know anything and 

1252
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,200
actually, you know, I'll tell 
you been, what we're doing is 

1253
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:20,900
we're being very careful, like 
he concedes. 

1254
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,400
Okay, we're backing the same 
side of the war that Al qaeda's 

1255
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,700
on. 
But we're being very careful 

1256
01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:31,100
about vetting who we Supply and 
also we're not giving them 

1257
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:32,200
weapons. 
We're just giving them 

1258
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:38,100
non-lethal material. 
Like say a pickup trucks and 

1259
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,800
money that of course could be 
used to buy guns and the rest 

1260
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:48,400
and then I can't leave this up. 
There's an article in the 

1261
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,900
Atlantic. 
It's an interview of Obama. 

1262
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:53,600
Bye. 
Jeffrey Goldberg who's Israel's 

1263
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,200
commissar of American Media and 
Jeffrey Goldberg. 

1264
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,100
Basically. 
First of all, the article is 

1265
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:04,300
called as president. 
I don't Bluff and what he's 

1266
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:06,200
talking about there. 
Is he saying to Jeffrey? 

1267
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,100
Goldberg. 
Would you please tell these 

1268
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,500
Raley's for me, that you believe
me? 

1269
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,600
When I say that I will never let
Iran get nukes. 

1270
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,800
I will nuke Iran before I let 
them get nukes. 

1271
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,600
And when I'm making a deal with 
them that's to prevent them from

1272
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:20,900
getting nukes. 
Not that help. 

1273
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,600
I'm get nukes, you believe me. 
Don't you join Jeffrey? 

1274
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,100
Goldberg, please tell the 
Israelis for me. 

1275
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,200
They listen to you. 
That's essentially the point of 

1276
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,500
the interview. 
Okay, but they talked about 

1277
01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:31,300
Syria in there. 
Again. 

1278
01:12:31,300 --> 01:12:33,500
It's called as president. 
I don't Bluff. 

1279
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,100
Okay. 
You go through their control, 

1280
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,700
F4, Syria. 
And you find Jeffrey. 

1281
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:43,200
Goldberg says to Obama. 
Hey, man, don't you think that 

1282
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,600
if we got rid of Assad in Syria,
this is spring of 2012. 

1283
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,100
So, this is, you know, a year 
into the intervention here, 

1284
01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:54,700
don't you think that if We got 
rid of Assad, that, that would 

1285
01:12:54,700 --> 01:12:59,800
be a great way to weaken Iran. 
And Obama says, absolutely. 

1286
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:03,100
That's exactly what we're doing.
And that's exactly why we're 

1287
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:06,300
doing it. 
We're targeting us odd, the 

1288
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:12,900
secular bought, this dictator of
of Syria whose coalition 

1289
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:15,700
government. 
Essentially protects all of the 

1290
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:19,500
ethnic and religious minorities,
the alawites, the Shiites, the 

1291
01:13:19,508 --> 01:13:24,500
druze, the Assyrian child, Ian 
and Mariah night Christians and 

1292
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,700
least a solid plurality of not 
the Already of the Sunni Arabs 

1293
01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:31,500
as well. 
From these mujahideen terrorists

1294
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,200
that are being backed by the US 
and he said, yeah, but if we got

1295
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,800
rid of him, wouldn't that help 
weaken, Iran and Obama says, 

1296
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,800
yep, that's right. 
That's exactly what we're doing.

1297
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,900
And why were doing it? 
And so then Goldberg says, well,

1298
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,700
but what exactly are we doing? 
Can you tell me some more about 

1299
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:50,700
what we're doing to achieve that
goal and he's so sorry. 

1300
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:54,700
I can't tell you Jeffrey because
your classified clearance isn't 

1301
01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:57,100
High Enough. 
In other words, I could tell 

1302
01:13:57,100 --> 01:14:00,800
you, but then I'd have to kill 
you, joke, joke ink, that yet. 

1303
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,200
We are arming the terrorists to 
fight against Assad, but I can't

1304
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,400
go into the details on that, but
it ain't just trucks. 

1305
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,900
And by the way, of course, as I 
mentioned, the Saudis, the 

1306
01:14:10,900 --> 01:14:14,000
qataris, the Turks, and the 
Israelis were all working 

1307
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,200
together on this same plan to, 
in fact, type in for your 

1308
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:23,800
audience, type in Biden, Harvard
Syria, and there's a on YouTube 

1309
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,500
of Biden at Harvard explaining 
this Thing. 

1310
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:29,300
But blaming it on all of our 
allies, instead of taking any 

1311
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:32,000
responsibility for the Obama 
Administration himself. 

1312
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,900
He says, oh no, it's just Saudi 
and turkey and Qatar who have 

1313
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:41,700
decided that they want to back 
anybody who's opposing Assad, 

1314
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:44,600
but it turns out that includes 
some really dangerous guys and 

1315
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,300
that includes Al-Qaeda 
terrorists. 

1316
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,800
And so there's your story 
confirmed. 

1317
01:14:49,900 --> 01:14:54,200
In fact, I got another good one,
John Kerry who was Hillary 

1318
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,000
Clinton's replacement at state. 
In the second term. 

1319
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,700
John Kerry, and his assistant. 
I forgot the guys name. 

1320
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,300
They were secretly recorded. 
While meeting with a group of 

1321
01:15:04,300 --> 01:15:09,400
Exile Rebel supporters in Great 
Britain, and they explained in 

1322
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,800
there, John Kerry's own words. 
He's saying to them. 

1323
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:18,200
That look, I know you guys want 
more guns, but we dumped a ton 

1324
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,400
of guns into Syria. 
Okay, and then he says this, I 

1325
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,800
swear you can check me. 
He says we saw the rise of Isis,

1326
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,200
but we thought we could manage. 
We thought we'd be able to use 

1327
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,400
the rise of Isis as pressure 
against Assad that he'd better 

1328
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,800
resign, but that didn't work 
instead. 

1329
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,400
He just called in Iran and 
Russia to help him. 

1330
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:46,900
And so, now we're in the 
position where we've got the 

1331
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:52,000
Islamic State, and I don't know,
he doesn't say this specifically

1332
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,900
at that point, but he's llama 
State headed east. 

1333
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,200
Into Western Iraq, they didn't 
go west to Damascus, or they did

1334
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,200
try for a bit. 
And in fact, it was in the 

1335
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,500
November of 2015, that Isis was 
finally ready to march on 

1336
01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:11,000
Baghdad, and had cut one of the 
major highways. 

1337
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,000
I forgot, which think it was the
M4 Highway they call or 

1338
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,300
something like that, between 
Damascus and Aleppo. 

1339
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,500
And they were marching on 
Damascus. 

1340
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:22,900
And it was only, then that 
finally, the Russians intervene 

1341
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:24,800
and came in and started bombing 
them. 

1342
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:28,200
And you'll remember all that. 
Rage in the liberal media at the

1343
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,700
time that oh, no, they're not 
bombing Isis. 

1344
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:35,900
They're bombing the rebels. 
Meaning the cia's terrorists. 

1345
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:39,500
They're bombing the al-nusra 
front and their allies instead 

1346
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:42,200
of their old allies, the Islamic
State. 

1347
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,900
And they even came up with all 
these lies that Assad was 

1348
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:47,900
secretly backing Isis. 
When it was the Americans and 

1349
01:16:47,900 --> 01:16:51,800
their allies especially turkey, 
who had been backing Isis and 

1350
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,500
Phil geraldi, the former CIA 
officer had gone in Teen had 

1351
01:16:56,500 --> 01:16:58,800
gone to Turkey. 
He had formerly been stationed 

1352
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,700
in Turkey when he was CIA and 
likes to go back there on 

1353
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:07,800
vacation sometimes and things. 
And I forget if he was in, if he

1354
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,400
was in Ankara or Istanbul. 
I think he said he was in Ankara

1355
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,900
and their guys, raising money 
for Isis all up and down the 

1356
01:17:14,900 --> 01:17:17,700
street in downtown, anchor, 
whatever, right? 

1357
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:19,500
They're blatantly in front of 
everybody. 

1358
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,600
And everybody in the world, knew
that if you wanted to go and 

1359
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,300
fight with Isis, you got to go 
to Turkey and then go across the

1360
01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:28,100
border from there. 
There was even a case where the 

1361
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:33,000
FBI and the justice department 
prosecuted an American who was 

1362
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,700
trying to travel to Turkey to go
fight with Al nusra over there 

1363
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:41,900
and his defense, which is 
totally believable was but the 

1364
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:45,300
CIA recruited me. 
I was going to fight on the side

1365
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:47,700
of the good guys. 
What do you mean? 

1366
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:50,100
Now you're going to put me in 
prison for material support for 

1367
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:52,800
terrorism. 
Well the FBI and the CIA are 

1368
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,000
always fighting it just ain't 
fair and so And then, and there 

1369
01:17:57,008 --> 01:18:01,700
were hundreds of Americans at 
least thousands of Europeans who

1370
01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:05,200
went to Syria to fight on the 
side of the terrorists, who, 

1371
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,500
then the FBI admitted. 
They weren't even tracking these

1372
01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:08,800
guys. 
They didn't even know which 

1373
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,400
Americans had gone to fight and 
might be coming back again. 

1374
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:18,000
And not very much like page 57 
of Fool's errand, where you 

1375
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,000
reference, a conversation 
between Wesley, Clark and Amy 

1376
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:27,100
Goodman, where he refers to a 
memo that Donald Rumsfeld drawn 

1377
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:28,800
up. 
By Secretary of Defense, Donald 

1378
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,600
Rumsfeld staff listing, seven 
countries for regime change, 

1379
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:37,600
Iraq Syria, Lebanon, Libya, 
Somalia, Sudan and Iran were. 

1380
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,600
So we've gotten so much info on 
Iran. 

1381
01:18:41,700 --> 01:18:43,900
What? 
Was the u.s. 

1382
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:48,100
Role in Somalia? 
Well, yeah, this is the saddest 

1383
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:52,800
one and it always gets the short
shrift unfortunately, but it's 

1384
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:58,600
at least as bad as the Yemen 
more or Iraq war two, I think in

1385
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:05,600
2001 right after September 11th.
They sent jsoc and CIA before 

1386
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,000
even New Year's. 
Jsoc. 

1387
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,700
NCI. 
That jsoc is joint, Special 

1388
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:10,800
Operations Command. 
That's the top-tier Special 

1389
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,300
Operations forces, Delta and 
Seal Team Six and I guess 

1390
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:20,400
sometimes part of the 75th. 
Division and and I guess there's

1391
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,600
an Air Force component to, I'm 
not sure. 

1392
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:29,500
Anyway, mostly means Delta and 
Seal Team Six and CIA and they 

1393
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:33,600
were sent to go and hunt and 
kill mujahideen Terrace. 

1394
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:38,800
And so what they did was they 
hired the bad guys from Black 

1395
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,100
Hawk Down. 
You remember, a deed was the bad

1396
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:44,700
guy in Black Hawk Down? 
Well, they hired his son and 

1397
01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:47,500
other Warlords, like him. 
To go hunt down and kill 

1398
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:49,800
islamist. 
Well, of course, what they did 

1399
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,200
was probably showed up with a 
few as long as scalps, but 

1400
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,500
mostly they were just building 
up their own power and influence

1401
01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:59,700
and the more they persecuted 
people, the more resistance. 

1402
01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:03,600
They got, the more they went 
back to the CIA and ask for more

1403
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,900
money, and more guns, and the 
CIA kept giving them more money,

1404
01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:08,900
and more guns, and the more 
money and guns. 

1405
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:12,500
They got the more, they abuse 
the local population and the 

1406
01:20:12,500 --> 01:20:15,500
more that the population came 
together against them. 

1407
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,200
Now, you hear, Liberals all the 
time say oh if you like Freedom 

1408
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,800
so much. 
Why don't you move to Somalia? 

1409
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,700
Because of course everybody 
knows that freedom is, what's 

1410
01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:25,100
wrong with Somalia. 
Well, actually Freedom was 

1411
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:31,600
working for Somalia. 
The formerly us backed Communist

1412
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:36,000
dictatorship of Syed. 
Bar, a had fallen at the end of 

1413
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,400
the Cold War. 
Yes, America back the Communists

1414
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,500
in Ethiopia. 
You're probably too young. 

1415
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,900
But when I was in fourth grade, 
it was Michael Jackson and Cyndi

1416
01:20:43,900 --> 01:20:47,900
Lauper and Hands Across America.
To raise money for the people 

1417
01:20:47,900 --> 01:20:54,500
dying of starvation in Ethiopia.
Well, that was the soviet-backed

1418
01:20:54,500 --> 01:20:56,200
communist government in 
Ethiopia. 

1419
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,900
That was starving. 
Everybody to death, America was 

1420
01:20:58,900 --> 01:21:02,100
backing their enemies. 
The Somali Communists, who 

1421
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:04,700
crossed the line there. 
It wasn't communism. 

1422
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:06,800
That was just whose side you're 
on that. 

1423
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,000
Determine whether you got 
American support and so but 

1424
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,800
after his dictatorship fell, the
country fell into Civil War 

1425
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,000
through the 1990s. 
But eventually what happened was

1426
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,600
the warlord's just burn 
themselves out and no warlord 

1427
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,700
ever ended up seizing major 
power and any place. 

1428
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,700
And so the the most powerful 
Warlords were essentially, you 

1429
01:21:29,700 --> 01:21:33,200
know, neighborhood bosses that 
never really controlled an 

1430
01:21:33,208 --> 01:21:36,800
entire city or anything. 
And so Somali was left in his 

1431
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,000
state of de facto Anarchy. 
It's not that they had all 

1432
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,200
discovered rothbard Ian 
libertarianism. 

1433
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,700
It's just that there was no one 
there to consolidate power. 

1434
01:21:46,300 --> 01:21:49,500
So the port of Mogadishu and 
kismayo were both wide open. 

1435
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:54,600
No tariffs open trade. 
They had the highest rate of 

1436
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,100
increase of standard of living 
of any East African country at 

1437
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:03,200
the time and maybe of all 
sub-Saharan Africa to and then 

1438
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,700
that was also measured by 
increases in cell phone. 

1439
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:11,600
Technology being put up and all 
kinds of measures of the 

1440
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,800
increased standard of living. 
And in fact, I have an article 

1441
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,500
about this. 
This for the future, Freedom 

1442
01:22:17,500 --> 01:22:19,800
Foundation. 
It's called US government to 

1443
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,800
blame for somalia's misery and I
cite my sources in there. 

1444
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,900
If you want to read where 
Libertarians had found that. 

1445
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:32,400
Hey, anarcho-capitalism, 
defacto, Liberty is working for 

1446
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,800
the people of Somalia. 
Well, it wasn't until and that 

1447
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,600
was lasted that lasted for 
years. 

1448
01:22:37,900 --> 01:22:41,800
It wasn't until America started 
backing these horrible Warlords 

1449
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:47,600
that they the people of Somalia 
ended up coming to Gather and 

1450
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,300
forming the Islamic courts Union
to oppose them. 

1451
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,500
And by Union they meant that 
very literally. 

1452
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:58,800
It was 13, different groups that
have come together to join in 

1453
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,900
this new government war is the 
health of the state and this 

1454
01:23:01,900 --> 01:23:08,300
conflict had created a new 
government there and the Islamic

1455
01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:12,100
courts Union in 2005 whooped all
the Warlords and force them 

1456
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:15,700
across the line into Ethiopia, 
but they were, you know, hold up

1457
01:23:15,700 --> 01:23:18,500
in hotel. 
Has over there and the I see you

1458
01:23:18,500 --> 01:23:22,400
had taken over the country. 
Then the Americans flipped out 

1459
01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:24,700
and said, oh no, these are 
Al-Qaeda, guys. 

1460
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:27,600
And they have Islamic in their 
name and their the very worst 

1461
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,400
and they had like close down a 
couple of movie theaters, but 

1462
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,000
they didn't have anything like 
the ability to enforce a Taliban

1463
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,400
style regime of islamist 
austerity on these people. 

1464
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,400
It's a very different tradition 
there of Islam in Somalia, and 

1465
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,200
they're not used to live in like
the Afghan Taliban. 

1466
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,200
Rule. 
And they wouldn't have put up 

1467
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,200
with that anyway, and and I see 
you didn't really have, I don't 

1468
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,300
think the will or the ability to
try to force that kind of system

1469
01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:57,200
on people. 
And they certainly had no 

1470
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:02,200
alliance with Al-Qaeda at all, 
but then in and so they 

1471
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,500
Consolidated their power through
2005 and 2006, and then in 

1472
01:24:06,508 --> 01:24:11,700
Christmas 2006, George W, bush 
invaded and he got the 

1473
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:17,200
Ethiopians, of course, to lead 
the way but the CIA Jay and the 

1474
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,700
joint Special Operations Command
helped with the original 

1475
01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:24,200
Invasion and they sack, these 
Lama courts Union, force them 

1476
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,200
out of power and committed, 
massive war crimes. 

1477
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,800
The Americans, you know, were 
mass murder and people from 

1478
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,600
their ac-130s, you know, with 
their Vulcan cannons and 

1479
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,600
artillery and whatever. 
They're blasting out of there 

1480
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,600
and the Ethiopians committed and
their historical Rivals. 

1481
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,000
Ethiopians are Christians and 
the somalis are Muslim and 

1482
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,000
they've had their problems in 
the past. 

1483
01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:49,500
And so they came in They were 
raping and pillaging and burning

1484
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:52,700
and looting and murdering 
civilians and going crazy. 

1485
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,600
Torturing people, including at 
least one American who is 

1486
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,100
abducted and rendition to Kenya 
and was tortured under the watch

1487
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:05,600
of the FBI and the CIA. 
And then what happened though. 

1488
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:12,000
Was that the very smallest and 
weakest part of the Islamic 

1489
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,200
courts Union, al-shabaab, which 
means the youth, You know, they 

1490
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,800
were nobodies in the Islamic 
courts. 

1491
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,700
Union, Islamic courts. 
Union was run by the uncles and 

1492
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:24,600
The Grandfather's and the imams 
and the village Elders, 

1493
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:28,500
neighborhood Elders. 
The youth were to sit in the 

1494
01:25:28,500 --> 01:25:31,100
back and be better seen and not 
heard. 

1495
01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:37,100
But now, once the war came, War 
is the health of the Infantry. 

1496
01:25:37,300 --> 01:25:41,500
And so it was the youth, 
al-shabaab were the ones who 

1497
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:46,200
picked up rifles and fought and 
successfully beat the, the 

1498
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,800
Ethiopian Army back and forced 
them back out of the country 

1499
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:55,600
again. 
And so, then America double down

1500
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,000
their support, for the 
Ethiopians who ended up re 

1501
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,800
invading. 
And then they also support the 

1502
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,100
African Union troops. 
His troops from Kenya Ethiopia 

1503
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:12,600
Burundi and I forget where else 
who came in as the occupying 

1504
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:17,000
force and the Americans and the 
United Nations created something

1505
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,800
they call the transitional 
federal government to be the new

1506
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,400
government of Somalia and they 
fought like hell for years. 

1507
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:30,200
And you read this on page 222 of
Jeremy scahill, 's book, Dirty 

1508
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,300
Wars. 
And he went to Somalia and met 

1509
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:33,500
with some of these mujahideen 
Warlords. 

1510
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,100
Our Lord's and wrote all about 
it. 

1511
01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:38,500
And on page 222. 
He's got a quote from the state 

1512
01:26:38,500 --> 01:26:41,000
department lady. 
Oh, I'm getting ahead of myself.

1513
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:48,400
So, November, October, November 
2008, time's up for the Obama 

1514
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,600
for the Bush Administration 
right there on their way out. 

1515
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,200
They've got to figure out 
something here. 

1516
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,700
So Condoleezza Rice makes a deal
and says that Sheikh Sharif who 

1517
01:26:57,700 --> 01:27:00,000
had been the leader of the 
Islamic courts Union. 

1518
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:04,100
Okay, Sheikh Sharif. 
You can be the president but you

1519
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:07,700
have to be the president in the 
form of the transitional federal

1520
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:09,400
government that we've created 
here. 

1521
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,600
And so he said, okay and took 
that compromise and took power, 

1522
01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:18,200
so they just fought a war for 
two years. 

1523
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,400
Two full years kill, hundreds of
least, hundreds of thousands of 

1524
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,800
people. 
And then they decided, oh well, 

1525
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,400
screw it. 
We'll go ahead and keep Sheikh 

1526
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,100
Sharif anyway, and let him be 
the leader anyway, and then, on 

1527
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:33,700
page, 222 of Jeremy scahill is 
book. 

1528
01:27:33,700 --> 01:27:37,000
He has the quote, from the state
department flunky saying, yeah. 

1529
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,600
Well, you know, ultimately we 
just wanted to take him down a 

1530
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,300
peg. 
We just wanted to hurt him some 

1531
01:27:42,300 --> 01:27:45,800
and weaken his position, but now
we're happy to go ahead and have

1532
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,200
Sheikh Sharif. 
Be the guy, and he ended up 

1533
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,900
staying in power until 2012 the 
same guy. 

1534
01:27:51,300 --> 01:27:53,600
So in their own words, the war 
was for nothing. 

1535
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,700
In their own words, it was a war
that didn't have to be fought at

1536
01:27:56,700 --> 01:27:58,700
all. 
And then the worst part of it, 

1537
01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:02,100
of course, is the drought and 
the famine that took place. 

1538
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,600
So and there's been a couple of 
them, the worst was in 2010 and 

1539
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:13,300
11 and what had happened was the
sun came out and and stayed out.

1540
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,300
There's no rain. 
There's a massive drought in all

1541
01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:19,300
of East Africa, but you won't be
surprised to know that. 

1542
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:23,300
Even in commie Eritrea. 
They were still able to eat. 

1543
01:28:23,700 --> 01:28:26,500
In Ethiopia. 
And in Kenya, they were also 

1544
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:31,000
blasted by this same Heat Wave, 
but they were able to survive. 

1545
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,300
But in Somalia, they weren't in 
Somalia. 

1546
01:28:34,300 --> 01:28:39,800
They laid down and died, 250,000
of them, minimum died, most of 

1547
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,000
those Keith. 
Children under 5 years old, they

1548
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,300
died. 
And the reason they died is 

1549
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:49,000
because of the war, you know 
capitalism has abolished the 

1550
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,500
famine from the face of the 
earth except when a capitalist 

1551
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:55,800
country like ours goes to war 
against helpless weak, innocent 

1552
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,000
people like these. 
And so what happens is the 

1553
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,700
Farmers can't plant their crops 
and they can't read them and if 

1554
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:06,800
the few farmers who are able to 
harvest their crops, they don't 

1555
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,300
have any good vehicles for 
bringing the food to Market. 

1556
01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:13,200
And by the way, there's no 
Market, and if there was, 

1557
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,500
there's no customers because 
nobody has any money, the entire

1558
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:22,100
system of distribution of the 
most basic facets of sustainable

1559
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:26,900
life were destroyed. 
And so the people were living in

1560
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:30,900
refugee camps, you know, in 
little tense up and down the 

1561
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:33,400
sides of the highways and 
they're just laying down and 

1562
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,500
dying. 
Most of them little baby 

1563
01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:38,100
children, starving to death 
children under 5 years old, you 

1564
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:39,600
know, anybody under five years 
old. 

1565
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:42,800
Yeah, people listen. 
In people watching, you know, 

1566
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,200
anybody under five years old. 
Those are the people who are 

1567
01:29:46,208 --> 01:29:49,700
starving to death in Somalia at 
the hands of George w--, Bush, 

1568
01:29:49,700 --> 01:29:52,300
and Barack Obama. 
And now Trump to, and we've been

1569
01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:56,600
at War this whole time. 
When there's a great article in 

1570
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,500
the Washington post about this 
is two years ago. 

1571
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:03,900
Now of Donald Trump arguing with
James Madison's, then Secretary 

1572
01:30:03,900 --> 01:30:06,700
of Defense and, you know, Donald
Trump doesn't even know where 

1573
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:09,300
Somalia is, right? 
So he's going well, where the 

1574
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:11,200
hell is Somalia, and to his 
credit? 

1575
01:30:11,700 --> 01:30:13,600
Where's Somalia? 
Why do we have troops there? 

1576
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,300
Why do I care? 
What happens in Somalia? 

1577
01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:18,400
Why should American soldiers be 
there? 

1578
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,000
And then James Madison told him?
Well, sir. 

1579
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:25,100
We're trying to prevent a Times 
Square attack. 

1580
01:30:26,300 --> 01:30:28,900
Well, but wait a minute. 
Now, remember, 40 minutes ago 

1581
01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:31,000
when we were talking about the 
Time Square attack. 

1582
01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:34,700
That was direct revenge for the 
Drone war in Pakistan. 

1583
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,200
That wasn't because we weren't 
fighting in Pakistan. 

1584
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:42,900
That's because we were fighting 
in Pakistan that the Times 

1585
01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:46,800
Square attack on American 
civilians was provoked. 

1586
01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:50,500
But anyway, whatever James 
Madison's a liar, so he says, 

1587
01:30:50,500 --> 01:30:53,200
well, we're trying to prevent an
attack on Times Square. 

1588
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,900
Mr. Trump. 
And Trump still isn't by. 

1589
01:30:56,500 --> 01:30:58,600
And this is according to the 
Washington Post now. 

1590
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,000
So maybe it's a total lie. 
I don't know. 

1591
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,500
But it seemed like it was coming
from the Hawks themselves and 

1592
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:06,100
they said that Mattis told him, 
this is how the article ends 

1593
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,100
Mattis tells President Trump. 
You have no choice. 

1594
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,400
And then what is Trump do? 
He sends the Infantry? 

1595
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,800
Not just Special Operations 
forces and CIA drone Killers, 

1596
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,200
but he sends the Infantry to go 
run around in the woods, trying 

1597
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,400
to hunt down and kill 
al-shabaab. 

1598
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:27,700
And they've had, you know, all 
kinds of of casualties of 

1599
01:31:27,700 --> 01:31:31,000
innocent people in Somalia, 
under the Trump years as well. 

1600
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,200
Here. 
We are almost four years into 

1601
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,100
Trump and he hasn't done a thing
to stop any of these wars at 

1602
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:39,500
all. 
Well, he's negotiated an exit 

1603
01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:42,700
from Afghanistan, but it To be 
seen, whether that'll actually 

1604
01:31:42,700 --> 01:31:45,800
be implemented but the rest of 
the wars he's done nothing but 

1605
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,500
double them. 
And what is the u.s. 

1606
01:31:48,500 --> 01:31:50,900
Involvement in Yemen? 
Yeah. 

1607
01:31:50,900 --> 01:31:55,400
So this is really the very worst
one in 2009. 

1608
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,400
Obama comes in and he orders the
CIA. 

1609
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,800
I want you guys to hunt and 
kill. 

1610
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:03,000
Al-Qaeda guys, forget all this 
going after Saddam Hussein in 

1611
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,900
the baathists. 
We're actually hunting and 

1612
01:32:04,900 --> 01:32:08,600
killing Bin Laden nights now. 
Okay, so go to Pakistan. 

1613
01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:12,000
Go to Yemen kill these guys off.
He wanted to end the war on 

1614
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,800
terrorism. 
He wanted to fight it and win it

1615
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,600
and finish it. 
Yeah, right. 

1616
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:22,800
So what happens is that CIA does
launch a air campaign and and 

1617
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,100
Special Operations forces 
launched a war against al-Qaeda 

1618
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,900
in the Arabian Peninsula. 
These were the guys who had 

1619
01:32:27,900 --> 01:32:30,200
helped coordinate the September 
11th attack. 

1620
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:36,000
They had bombed the USS Cole in 
the year 2000 and importantly, 

1621
01:32:36,700 --> 01:32:40,200
the real drone war in Yemen 
started in. 

1622
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,900
Early end of October. 
Beginning of November 2009. 

1623
01:32:47,300 --> 01:32:50,200
Well, then it was on Christmas 
Day. 2009. 

1624
01:32:50,300 --> 01:32:53,900
The end of December. 
Was when the Underpants bomber 

1625
01:32:53,900 --> 01:32:56,900
tried to blow up the plane over 
Detroit and he'd been sent there

1626
01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:59,600
by aqap to do it. 
He was a Nigerian but he'd been 

1627
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,300
recruited in Yemen and sent by 
these. 

1628
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,900
You many Al-Qaeda guys to do the
attack and then according to all

1629
01:33:04,900 --> 01:33:07,400
the official mythology. 
That's when America's 

1630
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,700
intervention in Yemen, ramped-up
was in response to the 

1631
01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:14,200
Underpants bomb. 
When know the Underpants bomb 

1632
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,900
was retaliation for the 
American. 

1633
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:21,900
More again cart before horse, 
but that's how they like to lie 

1634
01:33:22,700 --> 01:33:25,800
by omission and by trying to 
confuse your chronology, you 

1635
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:32,300
know, and so but if you go read 
anti-war.com for, you know, news

1636
01:33:32,300 --> 01:33:35,600
dot anti-war.com Jason did. 
His writings for the fall of 

1637
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,100
2009. 
You see that America was the 

1638
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,300
Drone bombing had already begun.
So now, this is totally 

1639
01:33:41,300 --> 01:33:42,800
counterproductive, the more they
bomb. 

1640
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,000
Now, Kata the more that they 
grew them and Jeremy scahill. 

1641
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,900
Again. 
He wrote about this. 

1642
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:52,000
This in his book, Dirty Wars, 
and into great articles for the 

1643
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,400
nation. 
One of them is called something.

1644
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,100
Yemen War, backfires war in 
Yemen backfire, something like 

1645
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:01,100
that. 
And it's about how every time 

1646
01:34:01,100 --> 01:34:03,200
that they Dropped a Bomb on the 
aqap, guys. 

1647
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,100
They ended up killing innocent 
people and driving more people 

1648
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:10,000
into the aqap group. 
And one important case. 

1649
01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:16,400
There was a town leader Village 
Elder type guy. 

1650
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:19,900
Who had gone to a meeting with 
the al-Qaeda guys to tell them, 

1651
01:34:19,900 --> 01:34:22,700
they better stay the hell away 
from his village if they know 

1652
01:34:22,700 --> 01:34:26,400
what's good for them and the 
Americans bomb that meeting and 

1653
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,400
kill the old man who has telling
them to that. 

1654
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,700
They better stay away. 
If they know what's good for 

1655
01:34:30,700 --> 01:34:34,600
them killed him too and along 
with 20-something women and 

1656
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:35,900
children were killed in that 
one. 

1657
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:41,500
And so it's just like pouring 
water on a garden, right? 

1658
01:34:41,500 --> 01:34:44,000
Pouring blood on Al-Qaeda. 
You just grow them, and grow 

1659
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,700
them and groan. 
Okay, so that's in the south of 

1660
01:34:46,708 --> 01:34:49,300
the country. 
Country against the al-Qaeda, 

1661
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:51,400
guys. 
Now, approximately in the middle

1662
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,600
of the country is the capital 
city of Sanaa. 

1663
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:57,700
And at that time, the dictator. 
There was a guy named Abdullah 

1664
01:34:57,700 --> 01:35:01,300
Saleh and Saleh had been working
for the American since at least 

1665
01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:03,300
Bill Clinton. 
I think the George W or George 

1666
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:09,800
h.w., Bush years, like 30 years 
loyal, patron of America client 

1667
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:15,500
State and so Obama had to pay 
him in money and guns for 

1668
01:35:15,500 --> 01:35:18,000
permission to. 
Wage the Drone war. 

1669
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,200
In fact, he would even take 
responsibility for drone 

1670
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,600
strikes. 
That everybody knew were 

1671
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,100
American drone strikes. 
Chelsea Manning later proved in 

1672
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:26,600
the Wikileaks that they had a 
deal that he would take 

1673
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:31,800
responsibility for the American 
deaths, but then he took all the

1674
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:36,000
money and guns and picked a 
fight with the houthis who are a

1675
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,500
group of zaidi. 
Shh Rebels, from the north of 

1676
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:44,200
Yemen up in the Sada Province 
and the problem with that was 

1677
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,800
every time he attacked them, 
they beat him. 

1678
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:50,100
Every time he attacked them, 
they grew stronger, just like 

1679
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:52,100
Al-Qaeda grew stronger. 
Every time we attacked them in 

1680
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:56,000
the South, the houthi group, 
grew, stronger and stronger, 

1681
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,900
every time Salah attacked them, 
then the Arab Spring revolutions

1682
01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:03,600
and days of rage and all that 
common 2011, and there's a 

1683
01:36:03,608 --> 01:36:06,500
massive protest movement and the
houthis join it. 

1684
01:36:06,500 --> 01:36:08,500
The houthis, the southern 
socialist. 

1685
01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:10,800
I don't know about the al-Qaeda,
guys, but the Muslim Brotherhood

1686
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,300
and everybody else were saying, 
we got to get rid of Salah. 

1687
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:16,800
Now, we want democracy and 
regular elections, and whatever.

1688
01:36:17,300 --> 01:36:21,500
Well, somebody set off a bomb 
and almost killed Salah or at 

1689
01:36:21,500 --> 01:36:23,400
least they wounded him pretty 
severely. 

1690
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:27,400
So he was at home convalescing 
and at that point, Hillary 

1691
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,900
Clinton made a deal with the 
Saudis that let's go in there 

1692
01:36:30,900 --> 01:36:35,700
and we'll push him out and we'll
install his vice president Hadi 

1693
01:36:35,700 --> 01:36:38,000
in power, and they held an 
election. 

1694
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:43,600
And again, check my work, just 
put it in haughty, ballot 2012. 

1695
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,700
And you'll see there's one man 
on the ballot one. 

1696
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,000
On the ballot, just like in the 
Soviet Union. 

1697
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,500
Yeah, you can vote but there's 
only one party to vote for same 

1698
01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:54,900
kind of thing here and Hillary 
Clinton called this, the 

1699
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:59,300
invention of you, many democracy
that she and Saudi had installed

1700
01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:01,100
a dictator. 
Okay. 

1701
01:37:01,100 --> 01:37:04,800
Well, so haughty made the same 
mistake that Salah made in 

1702
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,500
trying to attack the houthis in 
the north, but he never had 

1703
01:37:08,500 --> 01:37:13,300
anything like the power and 
influence lined up that Salah 

1704
01:37:13,300 --> 01:37:16,200
had had. 
And in fact Keith, when Saleh 

1705
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,000
lost his job. 
Job was fired by the Americans. 

1706
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,300
He didn't just run off. 
He took his army with him and 

1707
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:27,100
took, you know, like two-thirds 
of the army followed Salah when 

1708
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:29,500
he left. 
And then here's the rub. 

1709
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,700
He went and joined forces with 
the houthis because it turns out

1710
01:37:33,700 --> 01:37:38,600
aha that Salah was not a member 
of the houthi, political 

1711
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,100
movement, but he was as a Tisha 
from the north just like them 

1712
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,900
and so he made an alliance with 
them and they ended up marching.

1713
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,800
The capital city and seizing it 
by the end of 2014 and forced 

1714
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:56,700
hottie out of power. 
Now, if you check carefully, if 

1715
01:37:56,700 --> 01:38:00,600
you look at the factors, read my
last couple articles for anti 

1716
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,100
war.com., There's some 
references to this in there, 

1717
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,000
wherever I mentioned, Yemen 
always bring this up, that 

1718
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,600
there's a Wall Street Journal 
article, and there's some an 

1719
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,300
article in al-monitor by Barbara
slavin. 

1720
01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:16,800
And she report and they both 
report the same thing. 

1721
01:38:16,900 --> 01:38:20,300
NG Michael Vickers. 
Who was the deputy secretary of 

1722
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:24,100
defense for now. 
He was a general but he was 

1723
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,500
maybe he's deputy secretary of 
defense for intelligence some 

1724
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:29,200
like that. 
I forget his exact policy, his 

1725
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:33,100
exact role. 
That's a civilian position. 

1726
01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:34,700
I think. 
But maybe he was out of the, 

1727
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:37,800
maybe he was a civilian by them.
I'm pretty sure he was deputy 

1728
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,700
secretary of defense for 
intelligence, but had been a two

1729
01:38:40,700 --> 01:38:43,200
star. 
Anyway, so Michael Vickers 

1730
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,900
explains to the Atlantic Council
and Barbara slavin reports this 

1731
01:38:47,900 --> 01:38:50,700
and then the Wall Street Journal
had it from other sources that 

1732
01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:52,600
the u.s. 
Is working with the houthis. 

1733
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,200
We don't mind if the houthis 
take over the capital city. 

1734
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,600
What do we care about that? 
You know who the houthis hate 

1735
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,600
Al-Qaeda? 
And so we're passing 

1736
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,900
intelligence. 
Who teased for them to use to 

1737
01:39:02,900 --> 01:39:06,700
Target and kill Al-Qaeda guys, 
which was working, and they were

1738
01:39:06,700 --> 01:39:10,000
successful at that. 
But then, just two months later,

1739
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:14,900
Barack Obama in March of 2015, 
stab, the houthis in the back 

1740
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,200
and took Al qaeda's side against
them. 

1741
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:22,000
When Saudi Arabia wanted to 
launch this war, it was Crown 

1742
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,600
Prince bone saw Mohammed bin 
Salman, who was at that time had

1743
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,600
just been named Deputy Crown 
Prince. 

1744
01:39:28,900 --> 01:39:32,900
And defense minister just 29 
years old and Patrick cockburn 

1745
01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:35,500
wrote an article back of the 
time about how this is all 

1746
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:40,500
public Choice, Theory politics 
inside the Saudi royal family. 

1747
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,600
It's hardly has anything to do 
with the houthis are Yemen. 

1748
01:39:43,700 --> 01:39:47,000
This is about Mohammed. 
Bin, Salman moving up in the 

1749
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,900
chain of command and 
solidifying, his power inside 

1750
01:39:50,900 --> 01:39:54,800
the Royal establishment, there 
in Saudi Arabia, which 

1751
01:39:54,800 --> 01:40:00,100
apparently did help him because 
he arrested his cousin Ben Nye 

1752
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:04,000
f, Made himself Crown Prince. 
He's now the de facto King 

1753
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,300
marginalized all his cousin's, 
arrested all his uncle's and 

1754
01:40:08,300 --> 01:40:13,700
anybody who could stand in his 
way and and moved up, and launch

1755
01:40:13,700 --> 01:40:17,500
this war, and the Obama 
government help them do it. 

1756
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,600
And the Obama government. 
They told the New York Times. 

1757
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,300
That the reason that they did it
was because they had to placate 

1758
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:30,200
the Saudis and they knew as they
put it that the war. 

1759
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:36,000
Just the houthis would be long, 
bloody and indeterminate. 

1760
01:40:36,700 --> 01:40:39,100
In other words. 
They knew that they didn't even 

1761
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,100
know what victory was supposed 
to look like. 

1762
01:40:42,300 --> 01:40:46,000
And they launched it anyway. 
And why to placate the Saudis 

1763
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:49,100
why they have to placate the 
Saudis because Obama was in the 

1764
01:40:49,108 --> 01:40:53,700
middle of doing a deal with the 
Iranians for the nuclear deal. 

1765
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:57,400
Now, you might think that that 
nuclear deal, which very much 

1766
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,100
did lock down the Iranian 
nuclear program and prevent them

1767
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:04,700
from even being theoretically 
possible, you know, within a 

1768
01:41:04,700 --> 01:41:07,500
year of being able to make a 
single nuclear bomb. 

1769
01:41:07,700 --> 01:41:11,200
You might think that was a big 
favor to the Saudis that boy. 

1770
01:41:11,300 --> 01:41:14,100
See how We protect your 
interests walking down and runs 

1771
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:18,500
nuclear program, but no turns 
out that the Iranian bomb was 

1772
01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:21,400
always a hoax. 
Anyway, if Saudis weren't afraid

1773
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,500
of that, that was always a 
pretext. 

1774
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,800
What they were afraid of was 
that Obama might tilt back 

1775
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,100
toward Iran and make America 
friends with Iran again, and 

1776
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:33,100
that Saudi Arabia would lose 
their place of importance in the

1777
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,600
American dominated order in the 
Middle East. 

1778
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,800
And so, in order to placate 
them, he one went along with 

1779
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:46,800
escalating, their policy against
Iran's friend. 

1780
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,500
Bashar al-assad in Damascus and 
help them to launch this war 

1781
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:56,300
against the yemenis, against the
houthis and this meant and look,

1782
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:59,100
the Saudis don't have a land 
force of any real note. 

1783
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:03,300
That's it for the u.s. 
Army, but all of their planes 

1784
01:42:03,300 --> 01:42:05,800
and all their weapons, and 
everything that they have comes 

1785
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:09,600
from us. 
And so it was American, f-15s 

1786
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:13,800
flying dropping American bombs 
made by Lockheed and Raytheon is

1787
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:19,100
American ships in the u.s. 
Navy sailing offshore to enforce

1788
01:42:19,100 --> 01:42:21,800
the blockade and help the Saudis
enforce the blockade. 

1789
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,700
There is Boeing planes doing the
refueling. 

1790
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,700
So that, that Saudi f-15s can 
loiter. 

1791
01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:31,000
And look around for new targets 
to hit. 

1792
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:35,500
It was American contractors, 
spies and military men who are 

1793
01:42:35,500 --> 01:42:38,000
helping them pick all there. 
Target's collecting all their 

1794
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,000
intelligence for them and I 
don't know exactly what you call

1795
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,800
this Keith, but I have five 
different sources. 

1796
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,600
Who each have one source for 
journalists. 

1797
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:53,200
And one former Ambassador all 
who have one source each saying 

1798
01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:57,300
that there were American white 
boys, sitting in the back seats 

1799
01:42:57,300 --> 01:43:00,100
of those. 
F-15s holding the princelings 

1800
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:02,000
hands all the way to their 
targets. 

1801
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,800
Helping them fly in order to 
drop those bombs at least in the

1802
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:10,100
early days of War. 
And so even though just like, 

1803
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:13,700
with Obama in Libya, you can 
call it leading from behind. 

1804
01:43:13,700 --> 01:43:15,900
It's absolutely an American war 
it. 

1805
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:19,800
Absolutely could not be taking 
place without American support 

1806
01:43:20,100 --> 01:43:25,200
and Obama and Trump both have to
slight degree kept up the war 

1807
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:29,000
against aqap as well. 
But not really. 

1808
01:43:29,300 --> 01:43:31,800
I mean, there's a mission here 
in a mission there. 

1809
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:36,700
But in fact, aqap, has joined up
the United Arab Emirates It's 

1810
01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:39,300
mercenary Army there. 
The UAE is in League with the 

1811
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:42,100
Americans and the Saudis and 
their mercenary Army on the 

1812
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:44,600
ground, includes all the 
al-Qaeda, guys have joined them.

1813
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,700
And, you know, there's a 
reporter that I talked to from 

1814
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:51,700
time to time from Sanaa name, 
Nasser are Abby and I, and 

1815
01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:54,500
former New York Times Reporter 
before he started reporting on 

1816
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:59,100
this aspect of the war that they
don't want to hear, but I asked 

1817
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:00,700
him. 
Hey, man, you know, they say 

1818
01:44:00,700 --> 01:44:03,200
they're still fighting aqap at 
the same time. 

1819
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,500
They're fighting aqap's enemies,
the houthis there, any truth 

1820
01:44:06,700 --> 01:44:08,600
That and he just laughs and 
scoffs. 

1821
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,400
Oh, you know, really the CIA is 
drone bombing. 

1822
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,300
The uae's Army on the ground. 
Yeah, I don't think so. 

1823
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,900
And, you know, the Associated 
Press has done actually quite a 

1824
01:44:19,900 --> 01:44:23,300
bit of really good work on 
American support and our allies 

1825
01:44:23,300 --> 01:44:27,900
support for aqap there in this 
war and, including the uae's 

1826
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:31,300
torture of innocent. 
You, many captives, and so 

1827
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:34,500
forth. 
And CNN last year, did a special

1828
01:44:34,500 --> 01:44:36,500
report? 
And I know CNN, but this was 

1829
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:41,400
Credible did a report about 
Al-Qaeda guys. 

1830
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,700
Driving around in American em 
wraps and this is not like 

1831
01:44:44,700 --> 01:44:47,500
Western Iraq. 
Where Isis is stealing from the 

1832
01:44:47,500 --> 01:44:49,600
armory's that the Americans left
behind. 

1833
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,800
This is equipment that the 
Americans gave to the UAE and 

1834
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,300
the UAE is filling them up with 
their mercs which include a 

1835
01:44:57,308 --> 01:45:01,300
bunch of al-Qaeda guys. 
And so this war is treason. 

1836
01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:05,100
It is being fought on behalf of 
al-Qaeda in the Arabian 

1837
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:06,500
Peninsula. 
The guys that helped coordinate.

1838
01:45:06,700 --> 01:45:10,300
82, September 11th attack the 
guys that bomb the coal, the 

1839
01:45:10,300 --> 01:45:14,800
guys that did the Underpants 
bombing on Christmas. 2009, the 

1840
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,200
guys that did the heart. 
That Charlie hebdo' attack in 

1841
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:20,800
France, that did the package 
bomb plot that failed. 

1842
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,200
Luckily. 
It was meant to blow up a plane 

1843
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,500
over the US. 
This war is treason and just 

1844
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:30,200
like Somalia across the Red Sea.
There. 

1845
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:35,500
It amounts to a genocide, a 
campaign of starvation, and mass

1846
01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:38,800
death against the civilian 
population of the country. 

1847
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,300
And as Martha, Monday above all 
has documented but many others 

1848
01:45:43,300 --> 01:45:46,100
as well. 
The Saudi u.s. 

1849
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:49,300
Saudi UAE Alliance here. 
Al Qaeda Alliance. 

1850
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:54,000
They have targeted the Farms. 
They target the grain silos, 

1851
01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:56,800
they target. 
Flocks of sheep in the field. 

1852
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,000
They target the irrigation 
systems. 

1853
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:04,700
They target the hospital's the 
Waterworks the electricity, the 

1854
01:46:04,700 --> 01:46:08,000
sewage, they bombed dozens of 
hospitals. 

1855
01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:12,400
They they're doing everything 
they can to destroy the very 

1856
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:18,300
basic, you know parts of the 
yemeni economy for the 

1857
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,600
sustainment of civilian life. 
They're deliberately targeting 

1858
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,300
and killing the civilian. 
Relation in order to try to 

1859
01:46:26,300 --> 01:46:30,700
pressure them to overthrow their
government, which never works. 

1860
01:46:30,700 --> 01:46:32,800
It's never worked. 
We've had the same policy in 

1861
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,500
Cuba for 70 years. 
It hasn't worked. 

1862
01:46:35,500 --> 01:46:39,400
We had the policy in North Korea
for 70 years. 

1863
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:43,400
It's never worked. 
We have this policy in Iraq for 

1864
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,400
12 years between h.w. 
Bush. 

1865
01:46:46,700 --> 01:46:52,200
I mean, for well, 10 years 
between h.w., Bush, and Bush, do

1866
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:57,100
all 12, because it was Halfway 
through Bush senior, then all 

1867
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:59,600
the way through Bill Clinton and
then a couple of years in a bush

1868
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,100
jr. 
They had this policy against 

1869
01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:05,200
Iraq, never led to the overthrow
of Saddam Hussein, but it did 

1870
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,400
lead to the September 11th 
attack against the United 

1871
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,300
States. 
Our policy of keeping troops in 

1872
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:14,000
Saudi Arabia Airman. 
In Saudi Arabia in order to bomb

1873
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,200
and blockade Iraq. 
In order to force them out is 

1874
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,800
the main thing that provoked 
them to turn on the US and 

1875
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,700
attack them. 
She'll take us back in 2001 and 

1876
01:47:23,700 --> 01:47:25,900
on on page. 
Actually, let me just say real 

1877
01:47:25,900 --> 01:47:29,000
quick that we know for a fact 
that at least a quarter of a 

1878
01:47:29,008 --> 01:47:32,300
million civilians have died in 
this thing 85,000. 

1879
01:47:32,300 --> 01:47:36,700
Children under 5 years old 
85,000 and and that was last 

1880
01:47:36,700 --> 01:47:39,800
year's numbers are certainly 
much higher now and we're also 

1881
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,700
on the verge of the rainy season
and therefore third cholera 

1882
01:47:42,700 --> 01:47:45,900
outbreak as well. 
The last two cholera outbreaks 

1883
01:47:45,900 --> 01:47:48,400
out. 
There have been the most severe 

1884
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,700
in recorded modern human 
history. 

1885
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:54,500
With hundreds of thousands of 
cases and thousands of deaths. 

1886
01:47:55,000 --> 01:48:02,000
Sure, and on page 37, you 
mention Madeleine Albright on 60

1887
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,000
Minutes. 
Discussing those sanctions 

1888
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:09,200
saying that she believed that 
the price was worth it later on 

1889
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,900
page. 
I think it's 56. 

1890
01:48:11,900 --> 01:48:15,700
But later, you actually, quote, 
Bin Laden's letter to the 

1891
01:48:15,700 --> 01:48:19,100
Americans, which he actually 
addresses sanctions against 

1892
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:22,500
Iraq, so, it's not like, well, I
kind of have a feeling, like 

1893
01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:25,000
they're the ones who say, I have
a feeling, they hate us for our 

1894
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:26,900
Freedom. 
We have actually documented 

1895
01:48:26,900 --> 01:48:31,100
evidence to back up any, any 
statements that we make, of 

1896
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,000
course. 
If you go to Clinton 

1897
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:36,700
foundation.org under charitable 
donations between 10 and 25 

1898
01:48:36,700 --> 01:48:39,100
million dollars. 
You could find the Saudi royal 

1899
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:42,800
family. 
They're also November 20th, 2018

1900
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:44,700
statement from President. 
Donald J. 

1901
01:48:44,700 --> 01:48:48,100
Trump on standing with Saudi 
Arabia after the khashoggi 

1902
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:54,200
incident of the 450 billion 
dollars 10. 110 billion will be 

1903
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,600
spent on the itís of military 
equipment from Boeing, Lockheed 

1904
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:01,800
Martin Raytheon, and many other 
great us defense contractors. 

1905
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:06,900
That is on whitehouse.gov. 
So, yeah, the Saudis are 

1906
01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:09,900
absolutely infiltrating. 
The US government. 

1907
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,800
That's why Russia is the great 
great distraction. 

1908
01:49:14,300 --> 01:49:17,800
So this is, I think about what 
he's saying there that the USA 

1909
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,500
that we're simply mercenaries 
and that if you pay us, money 

1910
01:49:20,500 --> 01:49:24,300
will murder whoever you want. 
The houthis, never attacked us. 

1911
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,800
Never. 
Us again they were working with 

1912
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:31,100
centcom to kill Al-Qaeda guys up
until the moment that Obama stab

1913
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,500
them in the back and then think 
about what he's saying there. 

1914
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,800
First of all, the 400 billion 
four hundred fifty billion 

1915
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,400
dollars that the Saudis invest 
in the United States. 

1916
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:43,100
What a crock. 
There's no 450 billion dollars 

1917
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:46,400
coming from Saudi into the 
United States, even the hundred 

1918
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:50,700
billion that he says is going to
these few defense contractors is

1919
01:49:50,700 --> 01:49:53,200
way overblown. 
That's what they promised to 

1920
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:57,200
spend over the next 10 or 15. 15
years, this kind of thing. 

1921
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,800
And so, but even take it at face
value. 

1922
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,500
Well, this is a 20 trillion 
dollar economy. 

1923
01:50:03,500 --> 01:50:06,400
So assuming you had no morals 
whatsoever. 

1924
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:10,600
And you're simply a mercenary 
that's still is absolute chicken

1925
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:15,800
feed that has nothing to do with
benefiting the American people. 

1926
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:20,000
In any sense whatsoever, you 
know, benefiting employees of, 

1927
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,700
Lockheed fine, but that's such a
small percentage of the GDP of 

1928
01:50:24,700 --> 01:50:25,400
this. 
Country. 

1929
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,000
There's no way that you could 
spin that as beneficial to 

1930
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:32,900
America as a whole at all. 
And then, especially as Thomas 

1931
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:38,700
Jefferson said, I tremble. 
When I reflect that God is just 

1932
01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:42,000
and that his Vengeance cannot 
sleep forever. 

1933
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:46,700
And so, whether you believe in 
karma or Jesus or whatever is 

1934
01:50:46,700 --> 01:50:50,700
your thing here, this is the 
history of the world, being 

1935
01:50:50,700 --> 01:50:54,300
written America, killing 
hundreds, and hundreds, and 

1936
01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:58,500
hundreds of Of thousands of 
innocent civilians in the words 

1937
01:50:58,500 --> 01:51:02,900
of our president for the money. 
We're doing this. 

1938
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,300
Yeah. 
It's incredible. 

1939
01:51:05,300 --> 01:51:07,300
Smedley Butler. 
Warned about it in like the 

1940
01:51:07,300 --> 01:51:12,100
1920s, Eisenhower was a World 
War Two General and a president,

1941
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:15,600
he warned about it and then you 
have Trump openly saying it. 

1942
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:21,100
So this is going to be released 
on April 19th tomorrow. 

1943
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,400
So I gotta ask you to more big 
questions and then we got the 

1944
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,300
five questions. 
Lightning round, that shouldn't 

1945
01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:30,000
take too long. 
Why does Waco matter? 

1946
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,200
It was some deaths, 20 years 
ago. 

1947
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:37,500
Why is it so important? 
Well, I mean first of all 

1948
01:51:37,500 --> 01:51:40,800
because human life is precious 
and those cops had no right 

1949
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,100
whatsoever to kill those people,
the way that they did, and the 

1950
01:51:43,108 --> 01:51:46,000
Army, Delta Force helped them, 
do it and the fire on the last 

1951
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:52,600
day, but so you don't know the 
real meaning of it in terms of, 

1952
01:51:52,700 --> 01:51:55,300
you know, why it should matter 
to America, for the long term 

1953
01:51:55,800 --> 01:52:00,100
is, you know, ultimately that 
was a test to see what we would 

1954
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:01,600
put up with. 
That's how it played out. 

1955
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:02,800
Anyway, that wasn't the purpose 
of it. 

1956
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:06,100
I'm not saying that, but 
ultimately You know, the 

1957
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:09,400
American people supported the 
masker supported, the tank rate,

1958
01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:14,100
and we're told that these people
were, you know, had committed 

1959
01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:19,000
suicide, you know, really, if 
you look at what they did at 

1960
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,400
Waco. 
It was the exact carbon copy 

1961
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:27,700
that they used against Saddam 
Hussein 10 years later in 2003. 

1962
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,800
They said, look, this guy is 
crazy. 

1963
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:33,700
So we can't negotiate with him. 
There's no point in negotiating 

1964
01:52:33,700 --> 01:52:36,100
with him because he's so so damn
insane. 

1965
01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:39,100
Secondly, he's got illegal 
weapons. 

1966
01:52:39,500 --> 01:52:42,800
That the government says he's 
not allowed to have and he could

1967
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,400
be plotting to use them against 
us. 

1968
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,000
And then also, he's really bad 
to his own people. 

1969
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,800
And so we're going to we have to
liberate them and save them from

1970
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,300
this guy knows the exact same 
thing that they did to the 

1971
01:52:55,300 --> 01:52:58,000
Davidians that they ended up 
doing to the Iraqis. 

1972
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:02,000
That was it the and but turn it 
around the other way. 

1973
01:53:02,300 --> 01:53:04,500
Like what do they do? 
They turn this group? 

1974
01:53:04,700 --> 01:53:10,300
Of Texan American Christians 
from the heartland of Texas, the

1975
01:53:10,300 --> 01:53:13,500
sent from Central Texas, and 
they turned them into a foreign 

1976
01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:16,900
enemy State. 
They turn David koresh into 

1977
01:53:16,900 --> 01:53:20,400
Hitler and said that we have to 
stop him before he conquers all 

1978
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:25,500
of Europe before he marches on 
downtown Waco, and takes it over

1979
01:53:25,700 --> 01:53:27,300
whatever. 
It was that supposedly, he was 

1980
01:53:27,300 --> 01:53:32,200
going to do, and they turned 
this group of anyone who's not a

1981
01:53:32,208 --> 01:53:34,400
liar. 
Who knows anything about it. 

1982
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,400
Well, Tell you they were decent 
people. 

1983
01:53:36,500 --> 01:53:38,900
They were not criminals. 
That's if you watch the 

1984
01:53:38,900 --> 01:53:42,600
documentary Waco, a new 
revelation where they interview,

1985
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:45,700
Sheriff, Jack Harwell, he's just
a word salt-of-the-earth. 

1986
01:53:45,700 --> 01:53:47,100
People out there man. 
They were good. 

1987
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:48,400
People. 
They were not criminals. 

1988
01:53:48,700 --> 01:53:51,400
They didn't have a drug lab. 
They did not abuse their 

1989
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:57,000
children, you know, they were a 
pretty kind of wacky break off 

1990
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:02,700
group of The Seventh-Day 
Adventists, but they're not, you

1991
01:54:02,700 --> 01:54:06,400
know, too much further on the 
And then a lot of protestant 

1992
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,700
groups in this country and 
that's not to say that David 

1993
01:54:09,700 --> 01:54:13,400
koresh was a good person, but it
is to say that he was not 

1994
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,800
Charles Manson. 
He was not bow and T or you 

1995
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:21,700
know, Jim Jones running this in 
saying cult for his own power. 

1996
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:26,200
That's just not true. 
And but it didn't matter. 

1997
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,600
The government was able to 
portray it that way. 

1998
01:54:28,700 --> 01:54:31,500
The government was able to lie 
to the American people and make 

1999
01:54:31,500 --> 01:54:34,500
the American people believe that
koresh had somehow lure. 

2000
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,900
Lord these cops out to his house
just to Ambush them and kill 

2001
01:54:37,900 --> 01:54:41,200
them all, which how come only 
for died then seems like they'd 

2002
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,500
all been lying in a pile of 
blood in the front yard. 

2003
01:54:44,500 --> 01:54:50,700
But anyway, in fact, none of 
that was true and and when they 

2004
01:54:50,700 --> 01:54:55,100
had a chance for peace they 
started the war. 

2005
01:54:55,900 --> 01:54:58,600
When David koresh said Okay. 
God told me to write my 

2006
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,600
interpretation of the Seven 
Seals and started writing. 

2007
01:55:02,700 --> 01:55:06,500
They knew that the game was up. 
He was on his last seal. 

2008
01:55:06,700 --> 01:55:09,400
He was writing the seventh seal 
and then he was going to come 

2009
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,600
out and so they launched the 
attack. 

2010
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:15,100
Then in order. 
Mostly, I think to make sure to 

2011
01:55:15,108 --> 01:55:20,600
destroy the crime scene. 
The crime being the ATF raid in 

2012
01:55:20,608 --> 01:55:24,400
the first place where the house 
itself was defense exhibit, a 

2013
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,900
full of incoming, bullet holes 
through the walls, through the 

2014
01:55:27,900 --> 01:55:30,700
metal door, in the front, 
through the roof, where they've 

2015
01:55:30,700 --> 01:55:34,500
been firing their M16s from 
National Guard. 

2016
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,700
Copter that Ann Richards, the 
Texas governor had given them to

2017
01:55:37,700 --> 01:55:39,900
use. 
In the name of the lie that 

2018
01:55:39,900 --> 01:55:43,200
there was a drug lab there, a 
meth lab, which was never true 

2019
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,900
in the first place. 
And so, it just goes to show 

2020
01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:49,500
that, yes, they can take a group
of American citizens and turn 

2021
01:55:49,500 --> 01:55:52,500
them into a foreign country and 
wage a war against them and 

2022
01:55:52,500 --> 01:55:55,400
including finishing them off 
with the Delta Force. 

2023
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,200
Finishing them off by putting a 
bomb on the concrete room where 

2024
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:00,600
the women and children were 
hiding. 

2025
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,400
It was a pantry. 
It was a storm shelter. 

2026
01:56:03,500 --> 01:56:06,400
They called it the bunker. 
And militarize. 

2027
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,800
It was women and children hiding
under towels from the band 

2028
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:13,300
Poison gas CS gas, that's 
illegal for use under the Geneva

2029
01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:16,000
conventions that they used on 
these people. 

2030
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,400
Then they bomb that room and 
crushed and burned. 

2031
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,500
The ones that hadn't already 
suffocated from the poison gas. 

2032
01:56:22,900 --> 01:56:27,200
He's an absolute catastrophe 
that absolute debacle and and 

2033
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:30,000
Massacre of these innocent 
people and they got away with it

2034
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:34,000
scot-free called it a suicide, 
knock a building over with 

2035
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,400
tanks. 
It's until it catches on fire. 

2036
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,200
And then set off a bomb on top 
of the concrete room, where the 

2037
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:44,600
women and children are hiding 
and still call it a suicide and 

2038
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,700
they could get the American 
people to swallow it whole to 

2039
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:53,400
that to me as a kid, you know, I
saw this play out in front of my

2040
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,300
eyes and I never believed it was
a suicide. 

2041
01:56:55,300 --> 01:56:57,700
I always believed that the cops 
had murdered those people. 

2042
01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,500
Why don't you show me the back 
of the house then? 

2043
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,500
Yeah, because that's where 
they're murdering the people. 

2044
01:57:01,700 --> 01:57:04,400
And we know now from the 
forward-looking infrared footage

2045
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,500
from FBI's own plane from the 
flare. 

2046
01:57:06,500 --> 01:57:10,100
You can see the hostage rescue 
team and the Delta Force get out

2047
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:13,000
of those Bradley Fighting 
vehicles and fire. 

2048
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,700
Their machine guns toward the 
building as it's burning down 

2049
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,200
and killing off. 
The people who are trying to 

2050
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:22,400
escape the fire in the back of 
the house, the American people, 

2051
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,400
they loved it and they thought 
it was great via USA. 

2052
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:29,500
Today opinion poll had 93 
percent supported the raid, even

2053
01:57:29,500 --> 01:57:32,500
after the next day after you 
knew not, do you support rating 

2054
01:57:32,500 --> 01:57:34,400
the place, but do you support 
the raid? 

2055
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:39,300
That just ended in catastrophe 
and the answer was yes, and and 

2056
01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:43,500
I'll tell you why to it was 
because it was interrupting 

2057
01:57:43,500 --> 01:57:46,100
daytime TV, right? 
This didn't all happen on one 

2058
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:50,000
day. 
It was a 51-day Siege from April

2059
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:53,500
from February 28th through April
the 19th. 

2060
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,200
So just think how long ago 
especially this year, think how 

2061
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,600
long ago February 28th was 
right. 

2062
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,600
We've had a very long March and 
April is here. 

2063
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:06,200
That's how long this. 
Branch Davidian show was 

2064
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,800
interrupting. 
The Price is Right. 

2065
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:11,200
And One Life to Live and the 
housewives of America wanted 

2066
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:14,500
them all killed. 
And I know that because I was 15

2067
01:58:14,500 --> 01:58:19,100
s groceries at the time at the 
local grocery store in northwest

2068
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:23,100
Suburban, white, 
upper-middle-class, Austin, 

2069
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:25,500
Texas. 
And every single one of those 

2070
01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:27,600
Housewives wanted to go in there
and murder those people 

2071
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,000
themselves. 
Well, I say, they just go in 

2072
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,000
there and end it end it. 
Now. 

2073
01:58:32,300 --> 01:58:37,300
He said he was Jesus. 
Nail into a tree, kill them all.

2074
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:41,200
And I bet if you line them up, I
bet you couldn't find one 

2075
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:45,800
housewife, in northwest Austin, 
who was supposed to go in there 

2076
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:48,400
and end it now, other than I, 
hope my mom. 

2077
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,100
I don't remember really 
discussing it with her at the 

2078
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:52,800
time, but I'm pretty sure she 
would have been good on it. 

2079
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,800
But the rest of them know, the 
rest of them wanted blood 

2080
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,400
because the Price Is. 
Right is more important. 

2081
01:58:58,500 --> 01:59:01,900
Their daily soap operas are more
important and how dare this 

2082
01:59:01,900 --> 01:59:04,400
mullet-headed Trans, Am driving 
redneck. 

2083
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:10,000
Idiot in a rub their daily TV 
schedule and go in there and end

2084
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,600
it means kill them. 
Not him. 

2085
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:17,300
Oh, he said he was Jesus. 
So kill every child. 

2086
01:59:17,700 --> 01:59:23,400
All 17 of them kill every every 
man and woman who are the 

2087
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:27,700
helpless useless. 
Dupes of this charismatic cult 

2088
01:59:27,700 --> 01:59:30,600
leader. 
Well, if he's a charismatic cult

2089
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:34,200
leader, that makes them 
virtually innocent victims of 

2090
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,600
his, right? 
Kill them, too. 

2091
01:59:37,900 --> 01:59:42,500
That was the consensus of the 
housewives of Austin, Texas. 

2092
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,800
These people are have no better,
right to live in a recces. 

2093
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,600
And so they were killed. 
That's exactly it. 

2094
01:59:52,700 --> 01:59:57,700
And even the original 
justification of what they were 

2095
01:59:57,700 --> 02:00:01,400
going in for they could have I 
had David Thibodeau on my show 

2096
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:03,900
and he goes, well, they could 
have arrested koresh. 

2097
02:00:03,900 --> 02:00:06,200
When the ATF informants were 
shooting with him. 

2098
02:00:06,500 --> 02:00:11,300
The days before they initial 
raid on February 28th. 

2099
02:00:11,300 --> 02:00:15,400
So, it looks like a definite set
up much like Randy, Weaver the 

2100
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,500
FBI informant, sold him, the 
sawed-off. 

2101
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:20,800
Not done by a quarter of an 
entry, as a justification to 

2102
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:24,300
further invade. 
So well, yeah, that a total 

2103
02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:28,600
setup founded on LOL equivalency
on what happened with the Randy 

2104
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:31,700
Weaver thing was the ATF. 
It was ATF informant that set 

2105
02:00:31,700 --> 02:00:35,200
him up on the, on the barrels 
because they were trying to, 

2106
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:39,400
then force him to become an 
informant and he refused. 

2107
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,700
So then they sent in the wrong 
court date. 

2108
02:00:42,700 --> 02:00:45,000
That may have been an accident. 
I don't know if that's true or 

2109
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,200
not. 
But then when he didn't show up 

2110
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:50,600
for court, but they gave a 
warrant for failure to appear at

2111
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:54,800
that point was Federal Marshals 
went to his property and what 

2112
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:59,100
happened was the son Sammy and 
the family friend, Kevin Smith 

2113
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:03,400
were walking with the dog and 
the dog caught the scent of the 

2114
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:07,200
marshals hiding and took off 
after them and they shot the dog

2115
02:01:07,700 --> 02:01:12,200
and then so at that point the 
son who was only 12 years old. 

2116
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:16,900
I think he's 14 me look like he 
was 12 or something when he son 

2117
02:01:16,900 --> 02:01:19,900
of a bitch and Already shooting 
at them while they don't think 

2118
02:01:19,900 --> 02:01:22,700
he even saw them. 
But then they started firing 

2119
02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:26,000
back and he turned to run and 
they shot him in the back and 

2120
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:27,900
killed him and the family 
friend. 

2121
02:01:27,900 --> 02:01:30,000
Kevin Smith. 
I'm almost certain that was his 

2122
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,200
name. 
It's been a long time but the 

2123
02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:37,600
family friend was wounded and 
made it back into the house. 

2124
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:41,400
And at that point, the FBI came 
and laid Siege to the whole 

2125
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,600
place. 
And then next day or two days 

2126
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:46,800
later, the FBI sniper Lon 
horiuchi blue. 

2127
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:50,400
Randy Weaver's wife Vicky's head
off as she was holding her 

2128
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,300
infant daughter in her arms at 
the time. 

2129
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:59,400
And and then The Siege lasts 
another few days and boag 

2130
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:03,200
writes, the special ops guy. 
She added an end and Weaver 

2131
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,600
eventually surrendered and was 
acquitted. 

2132
02:02:05,900 --> 02:02:08,400
And the jury that acquitted him 
said that they wish that they 

2133
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:12,100
had the power to convict the ATF
and the marshals and the FBI for

2134
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:14,600
what they had done to him and 
his family and he ended up 

2135
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:17,000
winning millions of dollars in a
civil suit against him. 

2136
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:21,100
And all of that. 
I thought Weaver's initial issue

2137
02:02:21,100 --> 02:02:25,600
with the ATF was he was selling 
guns without a license. 

2138
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,700
Is that not true? 
I'm not even sure if that's true

2139
02:02:28,700 --> 02:02:30,600
at all. 
I know that they tricked him 

2140
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,200
into selling a sawed-off 
shotgun. 

2141
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:34,500
That was 3/8 of an inch too 
short or whatever. 

2142
02:02:34,500 --> 02:02:36,700
It was. 
It was my date and trapped him 

2143
02:02:36,700 --> 02:02:39,100
with an informant because they 
were trying to force him to 

2144
02:02:39,100 --> 02:02:41,500
become an informant because he 
had gone. 

2145
02:02:41,700 --> 02:02:45,000
He had been seen at like a white
supremacist rally and they 

2146
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,900
wanted him to inform on the 
other people who were there and 

2147
02:02:47,900 --> 02:02:50,800
he refused and that was where 
all the Revenge came from there.

2148
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:52,800
Anyway, the same thing here with
the Davidians. 

2149
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,900
You're absolutely right that as 
the saying goes now, they could 

2150
02:02:55,900 --> 02:02:59,100
have arrested David koresh any 
Time, he went jogging out on the

2151
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:02,900
roads out there in the 
countryside, you know, on a 

2152
02:03:02,907 --> 02:03:05,200
regular basis. 
He went to Walmart once a week, 

2153
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:07,200
whatever, they could have 
arrested him whenever they want.

2154
02:03:07,300 --> 02:03:09,400
And for people who don't know, 
the story. 

2155
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,900
I strongly urge you to watch 
Waco, The Rules of Engagement, 

2156
02:03:12,900 --> 02:03:16,100
and Waco, a new revelation, and 
they show in there. 

2157
02:03:16,300 --> 02:03:21,800
In the first episode. 
They show the gun dealer Henry, 

2158
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:26,900
McMahon was his name, and he was
koresh's gun dealer and one day,

2159
02:03:26,900 --> 02:03:29,200
correct. 
Called him while the ATF was 

2160
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:33,600
there asking about him and 
McMahon says, oh, hey, I got 

2161
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:36,400
koresh on the phone right here. 
He wants to talk to you keresh 

2162
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:39,000
wanted to invite them out to 
come and look at all of his 

2163
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:42,500
weapons. 
And the ATF agent went. 

2164
02:03:44,500 --> 02:03:47,000
And refuse to take the call 
because they wanted the rate. 

2165
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:48,800
It was called operation 
showtime. 

2166
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:51,500
And the undercover ATF 
informant. 

2167
02:03:51,500 --> 02:03:54,300
There was a guy named Robert 
Rodriguez and he'd been out 

2168
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:56,500
there shooting with koresh over 
and over again. 

2169
02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:01,700
And that day, he was there that 
morning and caress said, listen.

2170
02:04:01,700 --> 02:04:05,000
I know you're a cop and I know 
you're here, you know, for the 

2171
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,300
raid that's coming and 
everything, but let me tell you 

2172
02:04:07,300 --> 02:04:10,600
about the Gospel of Jesus 
Christ, and he tries to save his

2173
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:12,300
soul and convert him that 
morning. 

2174
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:17,900
And then, Sky was Rodriguez. 
I'm almost sure. 

2175
02:04:17,900 --> 02:04:21,100
His name was Robert Rodriguez 
and he runs out. 

2176
02:04:21,300 --> 02:04:24,700
He tries to warn he calls ATF 
and says they know we're coming.

2177
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:28,100
The element of surprise is lost.
Don't come. 

2178
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:30,900
And in fact, I think he even 
claimed that he was out in the 

2179
02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:35,100
road, like waving them down 
trying to stop them on the road 

2180
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:37,900
on the way in and they just blew
right past him and rated. 

2181
02:04:37,900 --> 02:04:40,500
Anyway, knowing that the element
of surprise have been completely

2182
02:04:40,500 --> 02:04:43,200
lost, koresh new, you know, saw 
right through. 

2183
02:04:43,300 --> 02:04:47,100
Through the facade and knew this
guy was a cop and try to stop 

2184
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:49,700
the raid. 
And then and the local news 

2185
02:04:49,700 --> 02:04:52,700
crews were already there in the 
front yard, set up, ready for 

2186
02:04:52,700 --> 02:04:55,800
the whole thing before the cops 
ever got there because they had 

2187
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,200
sent out press releases to all 
the news crews that we're going 

2188
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,100
to have a big thing and the 
whole deal, the reason they 

2189
02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:05,200
called it operation Showtime was
because remember this is just 

2190
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:07,000
the very beginning of the Bill 
Clinton years. 

2191
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,800
This is Bill Clinton's been in 
office a month in a week. 

2192
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,000
An ATF had been in a lot of 
trouble because they've been 

2193
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:18,100
selling n-word hunting licenses,
you know, as a joke supposedly 

2194
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:23,300
and they had been sued by women 
and black employees of the ATF 

2195
02:05:23,300 --> 02:05:25,800
for sexual harassment and racial
harassment and discrimination. 

2196
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:31,000
And so then in comes Bill 
Clinton and Al Gore and one you 

2197
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:34,500
have the whole Bill and Hillary 
and Captain Planet and the UN 

2198
02:05:34,500 --> 02:05:38,500
and Earth Day and all this kind 
of whole liberal PC culture that

2199
02:05:38,500 --> 02:05:42,800
came with them. 
And Had Al Gore who want it. 

2200
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,200
Who had his program of 
Reinventing government is what 

2201
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,300
they called it. 
And what that meant was, they 

2202
02:05:48,300 --> 02:05:50,300
were going to do a bunch of 
consolidations. 

2203
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:54,500
And one of the proposals was 
twofold the ATF into the justice

2204
02:05:54,500 --> 02:05:57,100
department and put them under 
the FBI of the justice 

2205
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:58,900
department. 
Whereas, at this point, they 

2206
02:05:58,900 --> 02:06:00,700
were part of the Treasury 
Department. 

2207
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,400
And so they wanted to resist 
that they're already little 

2208
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:06,400
brother to the FBI. 
Now they would be nothing 

2209
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:10,100
compared to the FBI if they were
changed from treasury to doj. 

2210
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:14,700
AJ and so they launched 
operation Showtime as a public 

2211
02:06:14,700 --> 02:06:19,100
relations stunt to prove to the 
Democrats that we might be a 

2212
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:22,400
bunch of mullet-headed rednecks,
but we target mullet-headed 

2213
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:26,400
rednecks to and hear this, you 
know, Trans Am Drivin Kook. 

2214
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,700
Koresh. 
He's going down at our hands and

2215
02:06:28,700 --> 02:06:31,300
that's going to prove how useful
we are to the Liberals. 

2216
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:35,300
And that was why they did it. 
That was the reason for the raid

2217
02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:39,900
was as a PR stunt after the 
disaster of Ruby Ridge. 

2218
02:06:40,300 --> 02:06:45,800
And the sexual and racial 
harassment lawsuits to try to 

2219
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:47,200
save their bacon. 
And it worked. 

2220
02:06:47,300 --> 02:06:50,500
Of course Congress, even with 
the total debacle Congress lined

2221
02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:52,200
up and gave him all the money 
that they wanted. 

2222
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,900
Yeah. 
That is what happens. 

2223
02:06:55,900 --> 02:06:59,300
I mean, I think George Bush was 
at, like, a 90% approval rating 

2224
02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:03,300
after the 9/11 attacks. 
It's like when government screws

2225
02:07:03,300 --> 02:07:05,800
up, then they have every 
incentive to do. 

2226
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:07,400
So. 
Yeah, because they're back to 

2227
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:10,400
your great quote from the book 
there of George Bush saying, And

2228
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:14,900
I'm so proud that from the time 
of September 11 to the end of my

2229
02:07:14,900 --> 02:07:16,500
presidency. 
There were no more terrorist 

2230
02:07:16,500 --> 02:07:19,200
attacks. 
Yeah, what about September 11th 

2231
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:22,400
itself? 
And this was, you know, what was

2232
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,500
funny to the Republicans spent 
so much time saying that the 

2233
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:29,000
George Bush kept us, safe, 
George Bush, kept us safe that 

2234
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:31,000
and no one would ever contradict
them about it. 

2235
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,100
That like, yeah. 
Well, I mean, except that one 

2236
02:07:33,100 --> 02:07:36,400
big one, right? 
And so then, when Jeb started 

2237
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:40,100
running for president, I got 
stuck on the talking point. 

2238
02:07:40,300 --> 02:07:43,600
But he couldn't think it throw 
in any realistic way. 

2239
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,700
So, he says, my brother kept us 
safe. 

2240
02:07:46,700 --> 02:07:50,900
Remember the rubble. 
Remember the rubble of September

2241
02:07:50,900 --> 02:07:53,900
11th and he kept us safe after 
that. 

2242
02:07:53,900 --> 02:07:58,300
Well, Donald Trump is not a CNN 
anchor. 

2243
02:07:58,500 --> 02:08:00,600
So, Donald Trump calls Monaco's.
Yeah, I do. 

2244
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,000
Remember the rubble. 
What do you mean? 

2245
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,300
Yeah, that attack happened on 
your brother's watch. 

2246
02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:09,800
You want to brag about that. 
And Jeb was taken told by 

2247
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:13,200
surprise, because no one had 
ever made that point before, 

2248
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:16,500
where he could hear it. 
And he literally said, Remember 

2249
02:08:16,500 --> 02:08:19,400
the rubble. 
As oh you're just supposed to 

2250
02:08:19,500 --> 02:08:21,900
that was supposed to be the Bill
Clinton years or something. 

2251
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:26,100
Not George, Bush's watch. 
Hey, he was only president for 

2252
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:30,900
eight months before that attack.
I mean, have you ever had a job 

2253
02:08:30,900 --> 02:08:34,100
or your boss expected you to 
start doing your job within the 

2254
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:38,000
first eight months since he 
started paying you? 

2255
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,600
Yeah. 
But anyway, the before we go. 

2256
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,600
Yeah, it's also the anniversary 
of the Oklahoma City bombing. 

2257
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:47,100
So that would say just real fast
about that. 

2258
02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:48,900
Yeah, that Going to be most 
efficient. 

2259
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:51,600
Okay, so, we'll go ahead and ask
it. 

2260
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:56,000
Okay, I was going to say, what 
is the most important aspects of

2261
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:59,600
the Oklahoma City bombing that 
you would like people to know 

2262
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:02,500
about? 
Okay, and that is that, there's 

2263
02:09:02,500 --> 02:09:04,800
a huge cover-up. 
McVeigh did it. 

2264
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,800
He was guilty as hell, but he 
had a lot of help, and he was 

2265
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:11,500
not a militia guy. 
He was a Nazi, a real one, and 

2266
02:09:11,500 --> 02:09:13,700
all of his Nazi buddies. 
They were allowed to get away 

2267
02:09:13,700 --> 02:09:15,900
with it. 
The cops, let them get away with

2268
02:09:15,900 --> 02:09:16,900
it. 
And the reason why is because 

2269
02:09:16,900 --> 02:09:19,000
they were all under control. 
Cover informants and flip 

2270
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,300
State's Witnesses. 
And guys, at the FBI should have

2271
02:09:21,300 --> 02:09:24,300
had tabs on and should have 
prevented had all the prior 

2272
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:26,400
knowledge in the world, that 
they needed to prevent that 

2273
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:28,900
attack. 
And then they didn't date EF was

2274
02:09:28,900 --> 02:09:31,200
going to raid the Nazi compound 
before it happened. 

2275
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:34,500
The FBI prevented them from 
doing so said, we'll handle it 

2276
02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:38,200
and then they didn't handle it. 
And so there was a massive 

2277
02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:40,400
cover-up, but here's the good 
news. 

2278
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:46,300
A guy named Richard booth has 
collected thousands of documents

2279
02:09:46,300 --> 02:09:50,200
from the FBI, the ATF Have the 
Secret Service, the local cops 

2280
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:54,500
that trial transcripts, 
everything in the world and 

2281
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,400
should be by the time. 
This episode airs. 

2282
02:09:57,900 --> 02:10:01,500
Every bit of that will be 
available for your audience at 

2283
02:10:01,500 --> 02:10:05,300
libertarian. 
Institute.org /, OKC. 

2284
02:10:05,700 --> 02:10:10,500
And we will have the world's 
greatest collection of documents

2285
02:10:10,500 --> 02:10:14,100
of the truth behind the Oklahoma
City bombing that anybody's ever

2286
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:16,500
seen. 
He's come from the Jesse trying 

2287
02:10:16,500 --> 02:10:21,300
to do here. 
Earrings out in Utah and on and 

2288
02:10:21,300 --> 02:10:24,200
on. 
And so, in fact, even talking 

2289
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,500
about when we're done with this,
we should probably hand the 

2290
02:10:26,500 --> 02:10:30,000
entire haul over to WikiLeaks 
to, because they do not just 

2291
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:31,400
things that are linked directly 
to them. 

2292
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:35,400
But they also store for example,
they have a whole section of 

2293
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:37,700
Hillary Clinton's emails that 
were released by the state 

2294
02:10:37,700 --> 02:10:40,900
department that were not late to
them, but were released by the 

2295
02:10:40,900 --> 02:10:44,300
state department, but they keep 
them in catalog, catalog them 

2296
02:10:44,300 --> 02:10:46,600
all. 
Anyway, so when we're really 

2297
02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:47,700
done with this, I'm going to 
talk. 

2298
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:50,000
Richard booth and see what he 
thinks about getting all these 

2299
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:54,000
mirrored on Wikileaks as well. 
But this is the mother lode and 

2300
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:59,100
this proves that it was McVeigh 
was in conspiracy with the Aryan

2301
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:02,400
Republican Army, bank robbery 
ring, and that these were the 

2302
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:07,700
guys who did the attack and that
You know, one of these 

2303
02:11:07,700 --> 02:11:12,200
informants, Andre strassmeir 
seems like he was actually an 

2304
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:15,100
agent provocateur. 
He was not really a Nazi at all.

2305
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,300
But was pretending to be a Nazi 
had infiltrated. 

2306
02:11:17,300 --> 02:11:22,000
Their group had encouraged the 
attack and participated in it 

2307
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:26,600
and then was allowed to get away
with others. 

2308
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:29,000
I don't know if they, I don't 
think any of the others are 

2309
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:31,400
necessarily provocateurs, but I 
think it's pretty clear that 

2310
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:36,200
strassmeir was fact. 
He admitted it to virtually 

2311
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:38,800
almost. 
Almost perfectly clearly 

2312
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,500
admitted it to Ambrose 
evans-pritchard of the Daily 

2313
02:11:41,500 --> 02:11:43,600
Telegraph. 
That he wasn't just an 

2314
02:11:43,608 --> 02:11:46,300
informant. 
He made the attack happen. 

2315
02:11:47,500 --> 02:11:51,100
And you have women like Carol, 
how who was an informant at 

2316
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:52,800
Elohim City? 
Who was saying? 

2317
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:54,900
I heard them. 
Talk about the Murrah building 

2318
02:11:54,900 --> 02:11:57,800
specifically so many times that 
there's no, this is a 

2319
02:11:57,808 --> 02:12:00,700
coincidence. 
She went along with them when 

2320
02:12:00,700 --> 02:12:05,600
they cased the building and then
later she drove her ATF Handler,

2321
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:09,500
Angela Finley. 
RAM on the exact route of them 

2322
02:12:09,500 --> 02:12:12,700
casing, the different buildings 
in the city and said, this is 

2323
02:12:12,700 --> 02:12:15,500
where we went and drove right by
it and pointed at it and her 

2324
02:12:15,500 --> 02:12:17,200
Handler Angela Finley, Graham 
admitted. 

2325
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:21,800
That that was true under oath in
a deposition that she had been 

2326
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:24,500
she warned specifically that 
they were going to hit this 

2327
02:12:24,500 --> 02:12:27,800
building. 
And so that was the key to it. 

2328
02:12:27,900 --> 02:12:32,100
The ATF had an informant inside 
the FBI's terrorist ring and the

2329
02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:34,900
FBI shut down. 
The ATF investigation said we'll

2330
02:12:34,900 --> 02:12:39,100
take care of it and then they 
didn't take Of it and 168 people

2331
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:41,200
were killed. 
Yeah was sort of like the 

2332
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:44,900
modern-day cointelpro where they
were infiltrating groups in the 

2333
02:12:44,900 --> 02:12:47,400
60s. 
They had patcon in the 90s 

2334
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,900
Patriot conspiracy where they 
were infiltrating militia groups

2335
02:12:51,900 --> 02:12:55,500
of the sort and you're going to 
have all of this. 

2336
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:58,300
Everything every document you 
could spend the rest of your 

2337
02:12:58,300 --> 02:13:00,400
life. 
Reading the documents that we 

2338
02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:03,000
have on the Oklahoma City 
bombing all at libertarian 

2339
02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:05,900
institute.org. /, okay. 
See it's the mother lode. 

2340
02:13:06,700 --> 02:13:10,100
Terrific, so I want to start the
lightning round five quick 

2341
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:11,600
questions for you. 
Scott. 

2342
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:14,500
What is the most important thing
you learned from? 

2343
02:13:14,500 --> 02:13:22,000
Jacob hornberger? 
Oh, Oh, I know. 

2344
02:13:22,300 --> 02:13:24,300
This is a good one. 
I interviewed him about it too. 

2345
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:26,900
He's got a five part series on 
operation. 

2346
02:13:26,900 --> 02:13:30,200
Keelhaul. 
Well, Harry Truman took all of 

2347
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:33,300
the Russian Prisoners the Soviet
prisoners who had been liberated

2348
02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:36,800
by the Americans and the Brits 
and WWII and he sent them all 

2349
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:40,400
back to Stalin to be executed. 
Millions of them, millions of 

2350
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:42,300
them operation. 
Keelhaul. 

2351
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:45,200
What's the most important thing 
you learned from Pat Buchanan. 

2352
02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:50,000
You have a great interview with 
him on your radio show about 

2353
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:50,900
church. 
Hitler. 

2354
02:13:50,900 --> 02:13:53,400
And the unnecessary War. 
Yeah. 

2355
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:55,600
Well, I've learned a lot of 
great stuff from pet. 

2356
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:58,400
I mean, he's really good on all 
kinds of things, we run and 

2357
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:04,300
regularly at anti-war.com, but I
think he makes a solid case that

2358
02:14:04,300 --> 02:14:07,800
if the Brits had not given award
guaranteed to the polls. 

2359
02:14:07,900 --> 02:14:11,100
They would have been much more 
likely to just let the Germans 

2360
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:13,100
have Danzig back. 
And then there might not have 

2361
02:14:13,100 --> 02:14:18,500
been a World War Two at all and 
that, you know, certainly 

2362
02:14:19,300 --> 02:14:21,800
launching the air. 
Or that he launched and bringing

2363
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:24,200
the French into it and 
everything like that. 

2364
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:28,100
Prevented Hitler from Waging War
against the Soviet Union. 

2365
02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:31,700
For two years where the the 
Nazis and the Soviets had 

2366
02:14:31,700 --> 02:14:34,500
divided Poland after the war had
started. 

2367
02:14:34,900 --> 02:14:37,800
They were sure to end up in 
Conflict, Hitler and Stalin. 

2368
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:40,900
But Churchill insisted on 
turning Hitler West First 

2369
02:14:40,900 --> 02:14:44,300
against all, the Western 
democracies and Conquer All of 

2370
02:14:44,300 --> 02:14:46,800
Europe, first before he could 
get around to turning around and

2371
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:49,800
attacking the Soviets. 
If that hadn't happened, the 

2372
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:51,200
Soviet. 
Probably would have been 

2373
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:54,000
destroyed by the Nazis. 
And then the Nazi regime would 

2374
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:56,900
have never outlived Hitler. 
Anyway, it would have been, you 

2375
02:14:56,900 --> 02:14:59,100
know, probably as 
self-destructed in the process 

2376
02:14:59,100 --> 02:15:02,500
of destroying the USSR, but 
certainly wouldn't would not 

2377
02:15:02,500 --> 02:15:08,700
have outlived Hitler himself. 
And so as Churchill himself, put

2378
02:15:08,700 --> 02:15:13,600
it after the war, huh, I guess 
maybe we stuck the wrong Pig. 

2379
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:17,600
Maybe we shouldn't have done 
that and I guess maybe one 

2380
02:15:17,900 --> 02:15:20,200
mistake there because then of 
course. 

2381
02:15:20,300 --> 02:15:23,900
If the Soviets went on to 
support the rise of Mao Zedong 

2382
02:15:23,900 --> 02:15:28,900
and China and the rest of world 
communism and the American 

2383
02:15:28,900 --> 02:15:31,800
Empire and the Cold War against 
it and everything is history 

2384
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:34,700
from there. 
What is the most important thing

2385
02:15:34,700 --> 02:15:36,200
you learned from Murray 
rothbard? 

2386
02:15:41,300 --> 02:15:47,200
I guess that there is a really 
smart libertarian Take On The 

2387
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:50,000
Conspiracy Theory history of the
20th century. 

2388
02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:53,000
You know, I had read a lot of 
John Birch Society propaganda 

2389
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:53,900
and stuff. 
When I was a kid. 

2390
02:15:53,900 --> 02:15:56,600
I was never right winger, but I 
liked all their conspiracy stuff

2391
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:59,400
about the Morgans and the 
Rockefellers, and the Council on

2392
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:02,600
Foreign Relations and kind of 
the secret government behind it.

2393
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:07,600
All and in rothbard's 
Masterpiece Wall Street Banks 

2394
02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:12,100
and American foreign policy. 
He tells the Fire conspiracy 

2395
02:16:12,100 --> 02:16:15,100
theory history of the 20th 
century, only with none of the 

2396
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:18,300
BS, because he's rothbard. 
He's not of John Bircher. 

2397
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:21,500
And so he doesn't get all bogged
down in Freemasons and skull and

2398
02:16:21,500 --> 02:16:24,500
bones and and distractions, but 
he just calls it. 

2399
02:16:24,500 --> 02:16:27,700
The Rockefeller World Empire and
explains all the corrupt 

2400
02:16:27,700 --> 02:16:31,600
corporate interests behind, you 
know, the real one world 

2401
02:16:31,600 --> 02:16:35,700
government, the US government. 
What is the most important thing

2402
02:16:35,700 --> 02:16:42,900
you learned from Ron Paul? 
Oh, man, there's a lot there, I 

2403
02:16:42,900 --> 02:16:50,100
guess. 
You know, to start, he set a 

2404
02:16:50,500 --> 02:16:56,400
great example of that. 
You don't have to be any kind of

2405
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,500
liberal or hippie to be for 
that. 

2406
02:17:00,700 --> 02:17:04,600
No, he in a sense is the most 
conservative member of Congress 

2407
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:10,799
in a way, is a Libertarian, but,
you know, he really, he helped 

2408
02:17:10,799 --> 02:17:14,400
solidify my libertarian beliefs 
that I already have from 

2409
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:18,100
studying the founding era, and 
from listening to He Brown and 

2410
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:21,400
others and then Ron Paul is just
so dang good on everything. 

2411
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:24,400
That by the time I started 
paying attention to him in 1997.

2412
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:30,600
He was just so good on a rack 
and terrorism and the.com bubble

2413
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:34,200
and then the housing bubble 
after that and just he's so 

2414
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:36,700
right about everything. 
I guess mostly what he did. 

2415
02:17:36,700 --> 02:17:41,900
Is he confirmed my beliefs to 
such a great degree and and 

2416
02:17:41,900 --> 02:17:45,200
really showed, you know, the 
humanity of libertarianism. 

2417
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:47,100
A lot of people think of 
Libertarians is all bunch. 

2418
02:17:47,299 --> 02:17:49,400
Of selfish Ian Rand Ian's and 
that kind of thing. 

2419
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:51,600
And Ron Paul really puts the lie
to that. 

2420
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:55,600
He's such an intelligent and 
caring and compassionate person 

2421
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:59,000
who cares, you know, deeply 
about human Liberty. 

2422
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:02,700
For everybody not just for 
himself, but for assault, Scott,

2423
02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:07,299
finally, you dedicate Fool's 
errand to, in memory of William,

2424
02:18:07,299 --> 02:18:09,700
Norman Grigg. 
What is the most important thing

2425
02:18:09,700 --> 02:18:11,799
you learned from? 
William Norman Greg? 

2426
02:18:12,700 --> 02:18:15,799
Well, I learned a ton of great 
stuff from William Norman, Greg.

2427
02:18:15,799 --> 02:18:17,200
He was editor of The New 
American. 

2428
02:18:17,299 --> 02:18:20,299
Magazine in the 90s. 
He was the reason I read the 

2429
02:18:20,299 --> 02:18:25,799
John birt stuff so much back 
then and and I think he really 

2430
02:18:25,799 --> 02:18:27,500
quit being a new world order, 
Kook? 

2431
02:18:27,500 --> 02:18:29,799
Right around the same time. 
As I did in the run-up to the 

2432
02:18:29,807 --> 02:18:35,000
Iraq War to kind of dropped all 
that stuff and and got a clearer

2433
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:41,400
picture of what's really going 
on in DC and and he's just such 

2434
02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:44,600
a principle guy in such an 
eloquent speaker and writer and 

2435
02:18:44,600 --> 02:18:48,600
everything. 
And, and And he really showed 

2436
02:18:49,100 --> 02:18:52,000
how someone with that kind of 
conservative background, can 

2437
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:55,600
really put opposition to the 
local police state. 

2438
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:58,900
Not just the feds. 
Not just the ATF but local cops,

2439
02:18:58,900 --> 02:19:04,500
abusing people what the kind of 
writing and activism that you 

2440
02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:09,700
tend to expect to come from the 
progressive left, the ACLU, the 

2441
02:19:09,700 --> 02:19:11,799
Innocence Project, and people 
like that. 

2442
02:19:11,799 --> 02:19:14,000
And and here's old. 
Will Grigg. 

2443
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:17,200
The former Bircher, you know, 
sticking up. 

2444
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:21,900
People on the receiving end of 
the worst of bad trials, and 

2445
02:19:21,900 --> 02:19:26,000
police brutality and abuse, and 
that kind of thing and not so 

2446
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:28,000
much exactly what I learned from
him. 

2447
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:31,799
But just how proud of him I am 
to see how many other people 

2448
02:19:31,799 --> 02:19:36,799
learn from him about what's 
truly important in Liberty. 

2449
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:41,100
What's most to be protected by 
our movement and who needs 

2450
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:44,600
sticking up for by those of us 
who really get it. 

2451
02:19:44,600 --> 02:19:47,799
And so, yeah. 
I miss him. 

2452
02:19:47,799 --> 02:19:50,900
I gotta say it was just his 
three years in a couple of days 

2453
02:19:50,900 --> 02:19:55,400
ago was the anniversary of his 
death, three years ago, the 

2454
02:19:55,400 --> 02:19:59,900
greatest loss to our movement 
since rothbard, I'd probably and

2455
02:20:00,300 --> 02:20:03,400
I've really missed him a lot. 
He was just one of the very 

2456
02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:06,900
greatest of us and and showed 
the kind of heroism that we 

2457
02:20:06,900 --> 02:20:09,600
should all be aspiring to. 
Well. 

2458
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:13,500
Thank you for keeping the great 
Word Alive on the libertarian 

2459
02:20:13,500 --> 02:20:17,200
Institute, as well as 
anti-war.com, Scott Horton. 

2460
02:20:17,300 --> 02:20:19,100
So much for your time. 
Thank you. 

2461
02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:20,000
Keith appreciated by.