1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:02,100 Welcome to Keith's night. Don't tread on anyone in the 2 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:05,600 libertarian Institute. Joining me is Kyle anzalone. 3 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:09,100 The news editor of the libertarian Institute and the 4 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:14,400 assistant editor of anti-war.com were going to be discussing the 5 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:18,500 book enough already time to end the war on terrorism, a 6 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:24,600 collection of historical events, going back to 1953 with US 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,800 military intervention. The book was written by Scott 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Horton and the audio book has just come out. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,200 Out links will be in the description below. 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,700 Kyle anzalone. Thank you for coming onto a 11 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:36,000 review. This book with me. 12 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:40,600 Yeah, no problem. Very happy to be on and to talk 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,800 about this book that, of course, maybe, you know, obviously it's 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,900 got horns book and everything like that. 15 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:50,900 But this book, you know, means like a lot to me because I've 16 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:53,900 been, you know, Skywarn listener for so long, you know, to this 17 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:56,700 guy Horton Show. And now I work with Scott both 18 00:00:56,700 --> 00:01:00,800 at The Institute and anti-war.com and so, Seeing 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,500 Scott put together. This book is just amazing 20 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:09,300 because it's so concise in. I mean, it's not everything that 21 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,100 gets discussed on the sky horror show. 22 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:14,800 He didn't put the china-russia stuff in there and under 300 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,600 pages are whatever. This is. 24 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:21,700 I guess it's just that 300 pages, but it's such a fantastic 25 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:23,700 book. And so I'm really happy to be on 26 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:27,400 talking with you today about it because I think it does make a 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,900 lot of these wars. And what I talk about my show, 28 00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:32,400 And you know what? We were constantly working on 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,900 anti war.com accessible to a lot more people if they read this 30 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:39,300 book. So I want to give you total free 31 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:45,200 reign on the big six US military interventions since 9/11 since 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,300 this explicit start of the war on terror. 33 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:50,500 What is the most important thing? 34 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:54,000 People need to know about US military intervention in 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,900 Afghanistan? Yeah. 36 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:58,900 So I guess the first thing I just want to take a second to 37 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:04,100 say, is that At the first, what, like 50 pages of this book are 38 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:07,600 sky explaining like the lead-up to Afghanistan. 39 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:11,800 And these are all things that happened from before when I was 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,600 born. And so it's different to learn 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,700 about because it's just like a history. 42 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:18,900 But to me, you know, I mean Buzz, absolutely fantastic. 43 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:22,700 And there's so much important stuff in there that really will 44 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:26,300 like a so if anything doesn't sound super familiar, something 45 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,800 like go back and read that because Scott has so many 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,700 important details of Happened in there. 47 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:33,100 But just starting off with Afghanistan, which of course, 48 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:36,200 is, you know, the first and the global war on terror and 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,200 everything like that. I think the most important thing 50 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:42,000 that Scott writes about, and of course, he has the whole, but 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 pools are, and that's behind me and everything. 52 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:49,600 But allowing Osama Bin Laden, or, you know, maybe we have to 53 00:02:49,608 --> 00:02:53,300 like qualify that a little bit. But Osama Bin Laden was able to 54 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:56,300 escape Afghanistan to Pakistan one. 55 00:02:56,300 --> 00:03:00,600 The Americans knew where he was and there were calls And Scott 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,900 highlights this and explains all the calls and efforts made by 57 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:09,200 different US military commanders and things like that to actually 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,900 take out the core group of al-Qaeda. 59 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:16,300 That was attempting to escape from Afghanistan to Pakistan, 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,300 and they were unable to do so, because the Americans were far 61 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:21,800 more concerned about fighting the Taliban than they were 62 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:24,000 about. Absolutely, you know, killing 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Osama Bin Laden. And so it's just, it's such a 64 00:03:29,008 --> 00:03:31,200 perfect example. Essentially what happens 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,300 throughout the entire war on terror. 66 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:36,500 They constantly don't get distracted with the big prize. 67 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:39,400 You know, that the Taliban are no threat to the United States 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,800 and Iran is no threat to the United States. 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,600 And yeah, you know, we highlight and focus our war efforts on, 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,100 you know, these people Saddam Hussein, another example of 71 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:50,800 that. And, you know, at the expense of 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,100 allowing the actual few people in the world who really want to 73 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:59,500 like do damage to America like the Osama Bin Laden's out there. 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,300 To escape and run rampant and so, yeah, I just to me. 75 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:07,100 That's that's the biggest thing because when I was growing up as 76 00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:09,500 a kid Keith, I remember all this b-roll footage. 77 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:13,000 We would see on TV every night on the news of these Rockets 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,900 slamming, into these mountainsides in Afghanistan. 79 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:18,899 And then it's playing in how we're doing everything we can to 80 00:04:18,899 --> 00:04:23,100 bring the man who perpetrated 9/11 to Justice and it just 81 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:26,000 wasn't true. The entire were on, were on 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,600 their war on terror narrative wasn't true, everything they 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,100 told. Wasn't true, they could have 84 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:33,600 gotten Osama. Bin Laden. 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,500 Had, they dedicated all their resources to gain, Osama Bin 86 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,500 Laden. And then the other part of that 87 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:43,900 course, is the Taliban were willing to hand over Osama Bin 88 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:48,000 Laden to any Third Country. If they didn't even have to 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,500 fight a war in Afghanistan, to hold the man who, you know, was 90 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:55,900 most responsible, for 911 accountable. 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,600 Right? Like we could have just had the 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Taliban turn. A over Osama Bin Laden to what 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,400 any Third Country? So what you're going to give him 94 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,800 to the UAE or Qatar where there's major US military bases 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,200 and they're gonna not give them to the United States. 96 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Come on. We, you know, what were they 97 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,800 say? A third country. 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,200 That could even be a NATO member State. 99 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:20,400 Give them to the UK. Allow them for the u.s. 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,000 To like present or extradition evidence in court. 101 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,100 Just like they're doing now with Julian Assange. 102 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:27,700 And, of course, you know, that's a whole fictitious case, but, 103 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:31,000 you know, we can extradite people and do from UK to the us 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,400 all the time, you know, there, there are legal ways to handle 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,200 this, kind of stuff that I actually had a conversation with 106 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,800 their Breaky who's really great and everything from Yahoo 107 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,200 recently. And it's even forgotten on 108 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Libertarians. They go. 109 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,900 How do we do with terrorism, you know, if you commit a crime, if 110 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:52,200 you kill Americans, there's an American justice system to 111 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,400 handle that and it all could have been handled that way, but 112 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,400 George Bush wanted Wars and he created worse for it. 113 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:04,200 And briefly explain the motives of Osama bin Laden and Ayman. 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,800 Al-zawahri Heroes group Al-Qaeda. 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,700 What was their motive for attacking Americans from 93 to 116 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:14,500 what 2001? Yeah. 117 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:16,900 So there's a lot of attacks in here. 118 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:21,300 And in part of this time, Osama Bin Laden's in Sudan, he's not 119 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:25,400 even in, you know, Afghanistan or anything like that. 120 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:28,600 They carry out attacks on the USS Cole. 121 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:34,300 In in Yemen and in bombings of different embassies in Kenya and 122 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:39,300 Saudi Arabia and elsewhere, but you know the motivation here, 123 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:43,000 what Osama Bin Laden, you know, whether or not this guy believes 124 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,100 what he's right, like he's the leader. 125 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:50,400 So if he is just like some more politician who just sees this as 126 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,400 an opportunity to recruit people to his followers, are he 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,000 actually believes are two different things, right, but it 128 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,100 doesn't really matter. The point is this is the Message 129 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:02,800 that Osama Bin Laden, conveyed to give people to kill 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,600 themselves in order to do damage to the American Empire or 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:13,000 actually kill Americans, right? And that was that the US after 132 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,200 the Iraq War, they stayed in the holy land and the land of the 133 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,200 whole to holy places Mecca, Medina, Saudi Arabia and 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,100 continue to bomb Afghanistan or Iraq, excuse me from there, but 135 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:28,300 not only after, you know, through the 1990s and the 136 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:30,300 Clinton presidency. Then see, not only where we 137 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,200 bombing Iraq and destroying the country's infrastructure. 138 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,800 We also had a starvation sanctions campaign against that 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,000 country. And so, while the 500,000 140 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,200 number, that's so frequently, cited is inflated. 141 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,300 There were hundreds of thousands like two to three hundred 142 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:52,100 thousand Iraqi children who end up dead in the 1990s because of 143 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:53,900 what America did to that country. 144 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:57,900 And then they were, you know, bombing from Saudi Arabia, which 145 00:07:57,900 --> 00:08:01,800 is just, you know, a adding insult to injury when that 146 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,600 happens. And so, these kind of things 147 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,300 start to radicalize people and start to, you know, want them to 148 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:10,900 wage a war against America. Also the occupation in the u.s. 149 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:15,300 Support for Israel of the Palestinian people, is a major 150 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:18,000 factor here. I think there's one more, 151 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,400 grievance. He has that. 152 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,700 I'm missing. Oh, the bombing of Sudan, they 153 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:25,800 bombed that. He was some kind of Medicine 154 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,000 facility in Sudan, and, you know, that ends up depriving 155 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,900 people mess and killing a whole bunch of people, but just, you 156 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:35,000 know, how General us imperialism, worked around the 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,200 world where the Muslims got screwed, you know, if you go 158 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,900 back at, there's some great people who point out that. 159 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:45,200 Like, if you go bad to the after World War 1 World War Two, 160 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:49,300 America was actually like seen as the the by people in the 161 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:51,900 Middle East. As like defeating the occupiers 162 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:55,300 are like surviving like, you know, What happened to Europe 163 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,600 and everything like that, you know, we have freed ourselves 164 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,000 from European Cole, you know, colonialism, right? 165 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,500 And so, actually, the is not like, Muslims, just hate 166 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,200 Americans are America or anything like that. 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,200 It's been, you know, the sustained campaigns in the 168 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:15,500 Middle East, I guess stretching bag from Yonder, overthrow of 169 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,700 the Iranian government and installing the Shah. 170 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:22,300 And then everything, they happened to Ron after two, but 171 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,000 just, you know, u.s. Mentally in the middle. 172 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:28,700 You said has allowed Osama Bin Laden to drive so many people to 173 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:31,200 us causing. You know, it made sense as we've 174 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,500 seen since, right? It's, you know, it's not like 175 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:37,400 we've been involved in the Middle East, Keith for the past, 176 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,200 what 30 years or so. And the number of terrorist 177 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,300 groups has dwindled. It's absolutely exploded. 178 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,800 And so, what does that tell you? American intervention causes 179 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,400 terrorism. And so yeah, it during the like 180 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,900 ask God's planes in the first chapter of his book is like 50 181 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:55,600 pages, but he didn't. Plain, all the little things 182 00:09:55,700 --> 00:09:59,600 that America is doing to kill Muslims, you know throughout the 183 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Middle East and how this eventually, you know allows 184 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,300 Osama Bin Laden to gather enough of a following to you know, pull 185 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:12,500 off a very lucky shot and do carry out 911. 186 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:16,500 What is the most important information? 187 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:20,800 People need to know about US. Military intervention in Iraq? 188 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:23,200 Oh, man, I mean there's so much here. 189 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,300 And, of course, for me, the biggest part, of course, is the 190 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:28,300 lies. They told us to guess into that 191 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:31,100 war because I believe tomorrow, you know, I was terrified as a 192 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:35,300 kid 9/11 happened and they said that, you know, you don't know 193 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:37,800 what's going to be Ned. So it's going to be a Super Bowl 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,900 or a football game or, you know, people that this was stupid but 195 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:44,700 like I grew up in st. Louis in, like, I was in like, 196 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,800 what fourth or fifth grade and kids in my class were like, 197 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,000 they're going to blow up the st. Louis Arch. 198 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,100 And so like, you know, I was terrified. 199 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:54,000 And then George Bush was saying things. 200 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,600 Like, you know, we can't allow the The Smoking Gun to be a 201 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,200 mushroom cloud and Osama, Bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein were 202 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,600 going to team up to set off a nuclear bomb are dirty bomb in 203 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,400 the United States. And so, you know, for me, that's 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,800 really like the most important thing is just to bunking, all 205 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,400 those lies that, you know, there was never a Cadet connection 206 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,200 between Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin, Laden Bin Laden. 207 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,100 The only thing they were able to turn up. 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,200 It is evidence that they knew was false that they tortured out 209 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:29,800 of people but you know, I guess looking back at one of the 210 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,800 things that doesn't get a lot of attention. 211 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,100 Keep that I did want to take a second to highlight on that. 212 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:38,600 I think is extremely important is the prison camps that the 213 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:44,100 United States ran in Iraq and the you know, effects that that 214 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:47,800 had down the line, right? And so these places like Camp 215 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Bucca and the more popularly known Abu You know, the picture 216 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,100 of the guy standing there and like, kind of with his arms 217 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:59,400 spread out as a hood, over his head, in like a smock, like kind 218 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,900 of a dress looking thing. Like, it's all raggedy and dirty 219 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:04,700 and stuff. The pictures of the, you know, 220 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:07,100 the men piled on top of each other. 221 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,700 That is what the US did to our Rocky. 222 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:14,300 Sunni men after they, you know, moved in and took over the 223 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:19,000 country and then we're you know somehow confused as to why you 224 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,100 know, these are the people that way. 225 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,400 When you know, they end up getting released from the prison 226 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,000 because, you know, the the US can prove they're guilty of any 227 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,700 crimes. A lot of them were innocent when 228 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:31,800 they ended up in there, but they end up as American hating 229 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,300 radicals after and all join up, the Islamic State and create all 230 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:38,700 the globe at that, you know, and we'll talk about Syria a little 231 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,700 bit, so we could get into that, you know, the blow bad thing, 232 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:45,200 but just how essentially all these American prisons 233 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,800 throughout the Middle East and everything are Jihadi like 234 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:54,100 universities. You know, networking facility is 235 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:57,300 right, like you get everybody together, you abuse the hell out 236 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:00,300 of them, and they all start to hate the Americans that are 237 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,800 abusing them together. And then they all, you know, 238 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,100 become radical violent are, not all of them. 239 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:07,600 But some of them become radical violent terrorist, it's not, 240 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:10,700 it's, you know, not hard. That these are predictable 241 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:13,800 consequences, you know, Isis leader, I'll bed, Daddy was in 242 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,300 Camp Bucca at least maybe Abu ghraib as well. 243 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,100 The suicide bomber that killed a hundred. 244 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:22,700 Some people are at least You know, South the suicide bombing 245 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:25,900 leading to event that killed over 100 people at the Abbey 246 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:29,700 gate in Kabul. This past August was somebody 247 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:33,700 who was, you know, and I guess involved in terrorism in India 248 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:37,600 and then somehow the US and the CIA arrest him, and bring them 249 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,600 to Afghanistan and shrug. We don't know how he got 250 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,200 involved with the Isis K Group in Afghanistan, but I'm guessing 251 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,300 it was him being in that prison. So when he got out, he went and 252 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:51,100 carried out, this suicide bombing that killed 13 253 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Americans, right? Like these things are like 254 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,200 obvious. That's like if you just round up 255 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,700 people and throw them all in camps together and you know, 256 00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:04,000 maybe there are actually some radicals and there is going to 257 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,100 like exacerbate the terrorist problem. 258 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:09,600 And so yeah these torture prisons and camps that they ran 259 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,000 a rock where are just huge problems that are continuing so 260 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,700 we have the fake justification of 9/11 being a A reason to go 261 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:24,100 into Iraq. We know this because project for 262 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:27,800 a New American Century as early as 1998, had written a letter to 263 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Bill Clinton about the need for regime change that. 264 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Basically this guy. He's got nukes. 265 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,500 He's got these chemical weapons. He's never going to give them 266 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:39,500 up. We have to have sanctions and 267 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:42,200 there we the sanctions we have aren't working. 268 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 So I think we have to move to the next step. 269 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,100 We have the fake Iraqi intelligence meeting with 270 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:51,700 Mohammed. Atta in Prague that that Still 271 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:55,700 never happened just like the Paul manafort. 272 00:14:55,700 --> 00:15:00,400 Julian Assange meeting that they are just so Brazen in these lies 273 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,900 that they thought they could get away with with those. 274 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:11,200 And then there was I think it was Nigerian, uranium that 275 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,600 George Bush said, we know we have an intelligence assets that 276 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,300 have confirmed Saddam is getting yellow cake, uranium from Niger 277 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,200 and then E.o. Wilson writes in the New York 278 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,700 Times to their credit, what I didn't find in Africa and he 279 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:31,500 refutes the whole thing. What is the likelihood that you 280 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:35,700 know, you would have caught that random Anonymous piece of 281 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:38,600 information that someone would have heard it, thought it was 282 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,900 about them. Got it published in the New York 283 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:43,200 Times. I mean the things that they must 284 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,500 get away with our are just incredible. 285 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,000 What were some other lies besides pray. 286 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,700 Nigerian uranium, was there a specific wmd lie? 287 00:15:56,700 --> 00:16:00,000 Or was it just hinted around? I remember that. 288 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Like, one of the things that I remember from, as being a kid 289 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,800 that time was aluminum tubes, because I knew what aluminum was 290 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,300 like, yellowcake, uranium. What was that? 291 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:12,100 Right? But aluminum to is, I remember 292 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:16,000 they always just talk about all these aluminum tubes and they 293 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,700 made it sound like so scary. Like he was going to put some 294 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:21,000 crazy chemicals in these aluminum tubes. 295 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:25,600 You use them to kill America and how those aluminum tubes would 296 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,700 ever have gone from Iraq, to the United States, was like things 297 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,600 that I like had no ability to like question at the time 298 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,900 because I was so young. But yeah, but that line 299 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:37,200 terrified me and of course there was nothing to it. 300 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,500 The chemical weapons one was another one that was big right 301 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,300 at Saddam is working on chemical weapons to Dom is working on 302 00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:45,600 chemical weapons. I want to bring this up because 303 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:54,200 and I want to say 2012 or 2013. I was listening to Rush Limbaugh 304 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:59,700 and he goes and we just had a report that they found chemical 305 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:02,800 weapons in Iraq. I was right all along and so I 306 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,400 went home and I looked it up and you'll what it turned out that 307 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,500 that story actually debunked what Rush Limbaugh like the 308 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:13,500 whole chemical weapons narrative because what they were saying is 309 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:18,200 that the chemical weapons that existed in Iraq were held in 310 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,700 stored by the UN Saddam. They didn't have access to him, 311 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:26,000 never use them or anything. He gave up those chemical 312 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,700 weapons. The only reason they were still 313 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:30,900 in a rock is for people who know things about chemical weapons, 314 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:32,400 like, once they sit around for a while. 315 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,300 They could be really difficult to use, especially if like, I 316 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,000 move, especially at the containers, there in are 317 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,500 becoming maybe questionably, like stable are no seal worthy. 318 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,000 I've no idea what the word would be. 319 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,400 But anyway, there's a lot of you like reasons that you wouldn't 320 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,900 want to move. Weapons. 321 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,500 I've been saying in a warehouse for years and years and years. 322 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:57,200 And so rather than doing that you just leave them in place 323 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,900 until they eventually over time become, you know, less potent 324 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:05,400 are lose, their poems. He entirely, and things like, 325 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,000 and that's what they were going to do. 326 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,200 And so, yeah, you have like ten years after the war Rush 327 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Limbaugh going. How I was, right? 328 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,100 All along when, actually, that story was debunking the, the 329 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:19,400 chemical weapons. And so it's it's just amazing. 330 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,500 How many lies they told and how Many lives. 331 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:24,100 They will continue to tell even if those lines. 332 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:27,400 Absolutely, you know, our stories about them being wrong, 333 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,400 but you know, they'll stretch the truth and make it up. 334 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,400 Most important information about the Syrian conflict. 335 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:36,700 Oh man. This is, this is a hard one 336 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,900 because I like Syria is one. These words were Iraq and 337 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:43,000 Afghanistan again, you know, I was a kid forward, this one. 338 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,200 There are so many things that have driven me crazy about this 339 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,900 war, but I guess the like the Kurdish issue. 340 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:54,300 Versus the mythical moderates. And this is who the u.s. 341 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:58,400 Is backing in Syria. And so, Scott has a lot of great 342 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,500 information on the timber Sycamore program in the book and 343 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:07,200 how the US was backing. The, you know, quote-unquote 344 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,500 mythical moderates, are the moderates, what they called, the 345 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:13,800 free Syrian Army, which was really just, you know, maybe 346 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,200 there were a couple people who weren't extremists, but, you 347 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,900 know, they were joining up, our had their weapons taken from 348 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:25,200 them by Al Qaeda and Iraq that have moved over to Syria the 349 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,000 group, led by al-jilani, who was the followers out here, e, 350 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,800 right. That, you know, these are these 351 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,400 are hardcore jihadists that the u.s. 352 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,000 Was backing in Syria. And even in 2012, then Director 353 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,700 of National Intelligence, Michael Flynn signed off on a 354 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:46,700 memo that said that this program ran the risk of crane and 355 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:49,900 Islamic caliphate and Syria and Western Iraq, and that's of 356 00:19:49,908 --> 00:19:53,700 course exactly what Happen. And so, you know, the u.s. 357 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:57,000 Carries out this, massive multi-billion dollar program 358 00:19:57,300 --> 00:20:01,400 years and years and years until 2017 when Trump finally shuts it 359 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,000 off. Of course. 360 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,000 This is run by the the ogre, John Brennan, who spent the 361 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,000 first few years of his time, you know, he was involved in the 362 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,000 bush torture program ends up. Being I call them Obama's ogre 363 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,500 because he kept them in a, the basement running, the Drone 364 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,100 program picking drone targets for the first few years in the 365 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:22,900 administration. It then becomes CIA director 366 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:26,400 runs this Timber Sycamore program, Army and backe on these 367 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,800 jihadists in Syria will talk about Libya later by law these 368 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,300 jobs in the weapons that the jihadist got it. 369 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:35,200 Come from Libya. A lot of them are veterans of 370 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,600 the Iraq War, who fought against the United States killed 371 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:40,800 Americans in the Iraq War, right? 372 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:43,300 You know, these are the people that the United States is now 373 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:47,000 arming and Becky and Syria all because, you know, the slogan 374 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Assad must go. So, of course, you know, this 375 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,900 blows up into the Islamic State. And now we have another idea. 376 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:56,900 We're guys start arming a back into Syrian Kurds. 377 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,400 And so, you know, especially where I'm like, I think 2014 and 378 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,100 2015 2016. There's a lot of stories about 379 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:07,600 how the Pentagon bad Kurds are fighting against the CIA betcha 380 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,400 hottest in these crazy, crazy kind of things. 381 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,800 And so then it got so bad. There's these this area in 382 00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:20,600 Northern Syria kind of along the border with turkey like, you 383 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:25,200 know, 20 or 30 miles into Syria. And there's two towns ones. 384 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,500 Al-bab in the other one is manbij and I can't remember 385 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:30,700 exactly what side controlled which. 386 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,600 But the US army rangers and special forces were driving 387 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,100 their Humvees with big American flag. 388 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:41,300 So they put, you know, giant poles with Jain American flags, 389 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:44,800 on the back and went dry between these two towns were on one 390 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,700 side. There's American CIA Bachelor 391 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:50,300 house, on the other side, Pentagon bat, Syrian Kurds, 392 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:53,600 which Not everybody likes to pretend like the Syrian Kurds 393 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,500 are like the, I don't know westerners of the Middle East. 394 00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,800 It's just not true. You know, I mean, they had their 395 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,800 own problems carry out war crimes there in the you know 396 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,900 right now because scripting fifteen-year-old girls to go 397 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:08,700 fight the Islamic State form. So yeah, you know, these people 398 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,600 are in like Democrats or anything like that, right, but, 399 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,300 you know, weird having to drive American forces between the 400 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:19,300 Sioux two sides. And apparently those like, you 401 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:20,900 know, Humvees were coming under Fire. 402 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,400 ER, and everything like that because the American bad sides 403 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,300 in Syria, hated each other so much. 404 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,200 And, you know, this isn't I guess like the most important 405 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200 part of the whole Syrian War, we could talk about the chemical 406 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,000 weapons attack ads and the false floods there and Trump bombing 407 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,300 asada, the opcw and the American influence, but just I guess as 408 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:46,500 far as the Syrian War goes the part that I just can't help. 409 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,900 But talk about is how the Americans have no. 410 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:55,700 Sensible policy whatsoever. If it's a rock, we bet the Shia 411 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,300 militias. If it's Syria, we bombed the, 412 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,100 she Emily. Militias, even though the Shia 413 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:04,900 militias were fighting the Islamic State on both sides of 414 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:08,400 the Iraq and Syria border, which the Islamic State erased. 415 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,000 And so, it made no sense. We're back in the cards, but 416 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,800 they're fighting the the sunnis that were also backing. 417 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,400 We're back in the cards, but our NATO Ally turkey is bombing 418 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,800 them. The whole thing is absolutely. 419 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,700 Insane. It makes absolutely no sense. 420 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:28,700 And it's all like was initially started on the policy that we 421 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:31,800 have to remove Assad from Power because he's some kind of bad 422 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,400 guy. But really, you know, Obama 423 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Obama revealed the truth, in his interview with Jeffrey Goldberg 424 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,600 ways, heads about taking the run down a peg, right? 425 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,500 Like it was never really about Assad. 426 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:47,900 It was about removing a Ron's Ally in Syria, which happened to 427 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:52,100 be Assad, but the results of this world look, My insides back 428 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:56,700 against was against the wall and Isis was advancing on Damascus 429 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:59,900 where they were going to carry out a genocide against the 430 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:02,800 alawites and the ethnic minorities of Syria. 431 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,100 Yeah, the the syrians called on the side on the Iranians and the 432 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:11,200 Iranians organized Shia, militias and help to you know, 433 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,100 along with the Russians turned back at the events of the 434 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:18,700 Islamic State in Syria. And so, you know what, resulted 435 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:22,200 that have a rod has far more Power and influence in the 436 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,400 Middle East, particularly Iraq, and Syria than they ever had 437 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,500 before. Because these were the people 438 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,500 that turned out the Islam and state, you know, is kind of, I'm 439 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:35,600 sure be like World War Two, Germany narrative, where in the 440 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,200 United States, we defeated the Nazis, but everybody, you know 441 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,000 else in the world knows the truth that like the Soviets did 442 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,800 like the bulk of the work, right? 443 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,100 You know, we're going to pretend like it was us that you know, it 444 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,000 was the Americans that feed the Islamic State but really it was 445 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:52,300 Assad. In Iran and Russia. 446 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:59,300 Is it was soleimani someone who were played an important factor 447 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,100 in fighting against the Islamic State? 448 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,400 Yeah, absolutely. And as we're like, I think it's 449 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,800 all money was popular in Iran previously, but became largely 450 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,300 popular in the Middle East and, you know, on the second 451 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:16,300 anniversary of his assassination, just a couple 452 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:18,300 weeks ago. There were attacks against 453 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:24,100 American forces in Syria, Iraq, the houthis stole a UAE Boat it 454 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:28,400 off the coast of Yemen because you know, soleimani was such an 455 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,800 important figure in resisting, the what the Americans are 456 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,800 trying to do in the Middle East, including the you know, leading 457 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,300 to the rise of Isis and feeling like that. 458 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:42,700 You know Isis was the lesser of two evils versus Assad and at 459 00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:47,200 times, you know, even if Isis was crossing open desert, if 460 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200 they were moving towards Assad's positions, we had the 461 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000 opportunity of gamma we didn't because we want it, you know, I 462 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,900 Isis to do more damage to side and all that. 463 00:25:55,900 --> 00:26:00,600 And so yes, old Monty was very important in organizing the 464 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,800 resistance the resistance to Isis, you know, particularly on 465 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,300 the ground from the Shia militias. 466 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:10,800 And so if you're an alawite a drew shiah that lives in the 467 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,400 Middle East, I'm sure you feel somewhat grateful to soleimani 468 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,900 because had the other side won this war, you would be dead or 469 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:19,700 to place displays from your home. 470 00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:24,000 Like, you know why? I like I've talked to Operations 471 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,400 forces who are on the ground in Syria, the things that they told 472 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,500 me that Isis did to people who are refused to convert. 473 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,800 I mean, you know, we see some of the videos that they showed 474 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,300 online and all that. They're absolutely horrific. 475 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,400 But some of the things they did to people who refuse just to 476 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,900 convert, right? Like, you know, you're you're 477 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,900 the wrong kind of Muslim for the Islamic State and so, you know, 478 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,900 you're gonna die. This is kind of the situation, 479 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:52,900 right? And so the fat that soleimani 480 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,400 and the Iranians turned them back is absolutely huge. 481 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,100 I will mention that it on the Iraqi side. 482 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,700 It wasn't just soleimani. There's another guy all Mohandas 483 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:07,700 who was also assassinated along with soleimani and his death is 484 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,800 also very significant for the, the Shia militias in Iraq. 485 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,300 One more thing on the on the cruelty of the Islamic State. 486 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,800 And I think this ties into the stud things, I was saying with 487 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,600 the prisons and that the u.s. Was Ryan and Iraq earlier, one 488 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,000 of the things that the Islamic State. 489 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,400 Really did, is they replicated? What the United States? 490 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,700 Did people, you know, dressing them in orange jumpsuits, 491 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,700 putting them in stress positions. 492 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:36,000 And I don't know about waterboarding, but different 493 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 things that the Americans did to torture. 494 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,200 People in Guantanamo Bay and blad sites around the world. 495 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,300 The Islamic State did that to their Western captives, you 496 00:27:46,308 --> 00:27:49,700 know, while they held territory. So like, you know, James Foley 497 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:52,500 and all those people. You don't suffered that way in 498 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,500 part because of what did Cheney and George Bush did to other 499 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:59,900 innocent Muslims. And any, any other information 500 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:06,200 you have on, either of the very flimsy evidence based chemical 501 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,600 attacks, but one under Biden and 100 Trump. 502 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,600 If I remember correctly, one under applied it to our trunk. 503 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,600 I'm sorry. So I think the first. 504 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,900 Yeah. Yeah. 505 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,000 So the first 1, 2013 Eastern ghouta, there is a chemical. 506 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,500 I see Aaron chemicals, weapons attack, they kills. 507 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,600 I think between like sits under and 1500 people, depending on 508 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,900 whose numbers you're reading initially. 509 00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:35,500 This is blamed on the Syrian government later. 510 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:41,300 There is a really good report by fyodor, postal who works at MIT 511 00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:46,200 a literal rocket scientist who goes and shows that because of 512 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,800 where this rocket landed, we know that it could have, you 513 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000 know, fired from xrange, stats range, right? 514 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,600 You could look at a rock. Okay, and you can see that like 515 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,400 it could only fly so far. And so then you could draw like 516 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,900 a circle and say like, well, it was fired from inside this range 517 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:06,300 and it turns out all that rage range was territory held by the 518 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,800 Syrian opposition. And so it's very clear that 519 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,300 Assad did not carry out that attack. 520 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,300 Now, that Ted did have important consequences because, you know, 521 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:20,300 even though we know that Theodore postal did bunted, it 522 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:24,500 table took a long time to happen and It's not accepted in the 523 00:29:24,508 --> 00:29:27,200 mainstream media, really, you know, why me, if you're on CNN, 524 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,900 you could say aside, carried out, chemical weapons attacks in 525 00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,100 Eastern ghouta. And in nobody's gonna question 526 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,900 it, right? But so Obama had drawn a red 527 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,800 wine, whatever the hell that means on chemical weapons saying 528 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,400 that. Well for side uses chemical 529 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,000 weapons. I'm going to do something about 530 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,500 it. And so this happened and 531 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,100 everybody was saying Obama, you got to do something because 532 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,500 Assad used chemical at even though that wasn't true, Obama 533 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,400 was being in a reality that it was true. 534 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,700 And so Putin helped, negotiate a deal with Assad to take and 535 00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:03,400 destroy all of Syria's chemical weapons. 536 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:08,000 And, you know, will Porter the co-host of my show a great dude. 537 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Like one of my best friends will Porter has done an excellent 538 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:17,000 job, you know, reading all the opcw reports, including the ones 539 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000 in, Arabic contacting the opcw and then sensually ensuring that 540 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,500 the opcw You was comfortable that there were no chemical 541 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,600 weapons in Syria. And that there were a couple 542 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,900 sites where I get the guess they left a few things but it was 543 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:36,300 more a result of it. Just because conflict was going 544 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:38,100 on. You know, I mean, you don't want 545 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,100 to move, chemical, weapons, through Damascus. 546 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,100 If there's a possibility that like a mortar could hit the 547 00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,100 truck, right? And so these kind of, I guess, 548 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,400 where some of the decisions going on, in fact, that Trump, 549 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,000 bombed, one of the sites that the opcw has Had said that, you 550 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400 know, they have fully cleared or something like that. 551 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:02,100 But anyways, you know as Ray McGovern always says, Putin 552 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,600 essentially pulled Obama's chestnuts out of the fire here, 553 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,700 because Obama was in a position where he essentially have put 554 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,200 him on his back against the wall, saying that he would go to 555 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,500 war with Assad, but nobody wanted to do that in the United 556 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,300 States. And so by Putin orchestrating, 557 00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:20,100 the stealing got the chemical weapons out of Syria. 558 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:26,900 Now, then, this Nets. On Khan shaykhun is in 2017. 559 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,500 And there was a little like concrete building and conscious 560 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,500 a coup in Syria that was hit with a Syrian air strike that 561 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,700 the Russians notified the Americans of before the air 562 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:44,200 strike was carried out Syria says, and I think it's the case 563 00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:48,900 that it was a conventional weapon that they use and the 564 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,600 strike hit a meeting of al-Qaeda leadership. 565 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,400 What happened? And afterwards is underneath 566 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,500 they. So one of the ways that I'll 567 00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:59,000 kind of, when they have territory. 568 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,700 They control the population is they control all the vital 569 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:08,000 resources and in a war zone, you know, that that's not just food 570 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,500 its food. It's medicine, its Cleaning 571 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:11,800 Supply. So bleach. 572 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,500 No ammonia is fertilizer in some of his phosphorus base. 573 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,700 Its weapons explosives and all that. 574 00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,900 So when the strike hits the building, apparently all that. 575 00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:27,200 In the basement and there's good reporting by Seymour Hersh on 576 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,100 this at the London review of buds, and they look at the 577 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,800 places where the alleged Rockets hit versus, you know, where this 578 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,300 building was and you know, the wind direction and everything 579 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:41,400 like that. And it's pretty clear that what 580 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,900 happened here was that people did die, from whatever 581 00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:50,900 substances were released from that, burning building, but at 582 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:54,600 the same time that isn't like they They dropped a serum bomb 583 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,100 on contrary Coon or I think even intentionally did this again. 584 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:01,100 The Americans were notified of the strike. 585 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:05,000 And then the third, major one was Duma in 2019. 586 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,300 This is an area outside of Damascus. 587 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,500 Initially its reported that it was fair and there's no evidence 588 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,300 at all anywhere. Any soil samples anything that's 589 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,800 Aaron was used in douma at all. No, proof of that. 590 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,900 Now they allege that was a chlorine attack. 591 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,700 Act. And that's because in a war 592 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:29,600 zone, you know, there's bleach right? 593 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200 It different places, your disinfecting things in different 594 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,300 places. So they find bleach or chlorine 595 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,600 in the soil. It's not clear that the the soil 596 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,800 samples that were taken that there was any kind of 597 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,900 weaponized, chlorine all say they find, our are traces of 598 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,900 chlorine. So again, it could have been 599 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:49,000 bleach or any kind of household cleaner in some soil. 600 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:52,300 They also have a couple canisters that they say, you 601 00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:55,100 know, one land. It on a bed, one landed in a 602 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:57,300 building and they have a whole bunch of dead bodies. 603 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Right. But none of the actual evidence 604 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,400 and are mate who writes that the greys on a grey Zone and on his 605 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,600 own subset because done the absolute best work on this 606 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:15,699 explaining how basically, what happens is that there's a lot of 607 00:34:15,707 --> 00:34:19,199 bombing going on in douma, because this is an area helped 608 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,300 by the Syrian opposition and snipers. 609 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:25,800 And, you know, Other militants are carrying out mortar strikes 610 00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,000 into the rest of downtown Damascus from Duma. 611 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,600 So, you know, the Syrian government is trying to retake 612 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,500 this territory. It's held by a Saudi batch 613 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,400 group. That's a salafist group. 614 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,699 It's not Isis, maybe but you know, they're certainly very, 615 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:46,100 very far-right, conservative islamist, right? 616 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,500 And and, you know, they're fighting against the Syrian 617 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,000 government and they're carrying out heavy bombing. 618 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,300 And so it's very Very dusty and people start showing up to the 619 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,700 hospital, not being able to breathe really. 620 00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,600 Well. Some guy comes out and starts 621 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,200 yelling gasps gasps, gasps gasps gasps. 622 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,100 And so, everybody just goes into mode and in starts treating it 623 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,400 like you would guess because you just dump water on people. 624 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,600 It's like, you know, low-cost like I did thing and that pretty 625 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,100 much is where the the whole story stems from. 626 00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:19,200 And so, you know, it's a little bit different where 2013 was a 627 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,500 natural false flag. 2017 is a distorted. 628 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:27,000 Then this one is just a invented story, you know, the best 629 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200 evidence they have is the CNN lady, sniffing the backpack on 630 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,900 it, smells like bleach to me. Which is absolutely nothing, you 631 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:37,300 know, like, here's some chemical weapons. 632 00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:40,400 Please put your face into it and sniff it and that's what the CNN 633 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,500 lady does. Yeah, so all the chemical 634 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:45,600 weapons attacks were Fates are tied. 635 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,000 I actually carried out by a side. 636 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,500 Are you familiar with the current national security 637 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,600 advisor? Jake Sullivan, sending an email 638 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200 to the Clinton campaign about a q. 639 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,900 Can you explain that email briefly just to finish off this 640 00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:01,900 area? Just going we're probably going 641 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:05,500 back to like 2012 here, one solvent, sends this email and I 642 00:36:05,508 --> 00:36:08,100 think we get it from maybe the week. 643 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:10,900 He leads her, maybe the Leopold releases. 644 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:14,100 But you know, this is from Hillary Clinton's emails and one 645 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,900 of her advisers is the current national security advisor, Jake 646 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,200 Sullivan, and he says a queue is on our side. 647 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,900 In this one boss, referring to the Syrian war and if that 648 00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:29,600 afterwards, Hillary Clinton gives an interview where she 649 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,900 talks about the fact that you know, it's really hard. 650 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,300 To back aside and Syria because you know, Al Qaeda is fighting 651 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:41,300 against Assad and do we want to take out kinda side in this 652 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:43,300 fight. And you know, that is what the 653 00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:46,200 Americans were doing in Syria. But yeah, even the Hillary 654 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,400 Clinton emails absolutely show. That's the case. 655 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,700 Again. You have the Clinton emails. 656 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:55,900 You have Flynn's Dia memo. And also once he become 657 00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:59,500 Secretary of State after Clinton, John Kerry is on a 658 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:01,900 couple of recorder calls where he's talking about how the 659 00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:05,100 United States. Why did Syria with weapons and 660 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:06,600 alls? It did as healthy as long as the 661 00:37:06,607 --> 00:37:11,100 state and jeez, I forgot the other one. 662 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:14,600 I was got mentioned but basically carry was just oh he 663 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,200 was talking about how the United States thought that they could 664 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,200 control Isis and lead to the chaotic collapse of the Syrian 665 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,400 government. Next. 666 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,100 We have the Libyan conflict. What is the most important 667 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,900 aspects of the US? Military intervention in Libya? 668 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,800 Bia that people should know about. 669 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,300 Yeah, so I guess it started off with they lied us into this war 670 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,800 to very important Point. There's a couple of ways this 671 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000 happened. The first is that they claimed 672 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,700 that Gaddafi was essentially going to carry out a genocide in 673 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:52,500 eastern Libya that after. So the Arab Spring happens in 674 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:55,200 neighboring. Tunisia Uprising also happens in 675 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,000 Libya and a big part of the uprising in Libya is militants 676 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,200 called, the Libyan Islamic. Fighting group. 677 00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:08,300 I believe a LIF G. Okay. 678 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:09,200 Great. Great, great. 679 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,400 Who I almost missed it up with Tigre. 680 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,300 The tig right people's Liberation Front. 681 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:17,600 So anyways, yeah. So yeah, the the in these are 682 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,500 basically the al-Qaeda guys in Libya and some of them veterans 683 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:24,600 from Iraq war to who fought against the Americans there and 684 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,400 everything, right? And so they take some control of 685 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,100 a couple cities, including Benghazi and everything like 686 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,400 that. So Gaddafi puts, His army 687 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,500 together and they they go off and they start, you know, taking 688 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:42,000 bath the territory from the, the, the jihadist. 689 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:46,800 And so I think the Americans were saying things like Gaddafi 690 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600 was going to go in and kill every man, woman and child, 691 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,800 which he took that territory and that didn't happen now. 692 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Well, I mean, he's a, he's a little, an African dictator and 693 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,700 it's War, like, you know, people die, it's not, I'm not trying to 694 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:05,700 like make excuses for Or anything like that, but at the 695 00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:08,400 same time, it's not like the Americans would say like we 696 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,300 committed genocide in Fallujah any of the times that we, you 697 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,700 know, cleared that place a militants. 698 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:19,200 And so, I think there's a lot of room between what the Americans 699 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,200 say happen. Why actually happened, which was 700 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,700 Gaddafi take it back, civilians died, of course, but they also 701 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:29,400 claim things like the Americans were are the the Gaddafi was 702 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,800 giving his army by Agra so they can rape more in you. 703 00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:36,900 No, it's the old, you know, level of babies on Bandits level 704 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:39,700 of like stupid evil War propaganda that they were 705 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:42,400 carrying out. There's plenty of reason to 706 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,900 believe that you know, the war didn't need to happen. 707 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Yeah. Gaddafi would take him back and 708 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,800 do from Benghazi from the militants. 709 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600 I'm sure civilians would died in that, but I mean, a Libya has 710 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,500 been nightmare after and predictably. 711 00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:01,000 So a couple things from, I guess, you know, before the US 712 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,400 starts bombing, you know, the There's debate around it in the 713 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,600 United States. One of the reasons people are 714 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,500 saying don't do it, please for the love of God don't do it is 715 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:14,000 that you know, Libya's kind of a fictitious country. 716 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,500 It's a massive State on the Mediterranean but stretches well 717 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:22,200 into, you know, that the desert there and the aquifers are in 718 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,000 the South and it takes a kind of careful balancing maneuver to 719 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,900 make Libya one somewhat stable country in there. 720 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:33,000 There's a big divide between the East and the west and this is We 721 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,400 been proven in the ten years since Gaddafi has been removed 722 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,000 from Power, because there's still several governments. 723 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,300 You can't even say to there's several different, you know, 724 00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,300 governments and power factions and everything like that. 725 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,700 Including you know, one of the people that was supposed to run 726 00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,300 for president in the Libyan elections that were supposed to 727 00:40:52,308 --> 00:40:55,600 be last month and got canceled. Was this man sieep. 728 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:59,200 I'll Islam. Who is the son of moammar 729 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,800 gadhafi in was I think likely to be this assessment? 730 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:07,100 Should Gaddafi have remained in power but he was even willing to 731 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:10,700 essentially depose his father and essentially just take over 732 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:16,300 the throne his father's throne in Tripoli and allow, you know 733 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:20,100 that to be the situation and to just move on from Gaddafi and 734 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:24,200 everything like that. And on, unfortunately that the 735 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,200 u.s. Decided that it was better to 736 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,800 bomb Gaddafi out of power. Then to actually, you know, try 737 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,600 to allow Libya to have its own. Position you don't Libya was 738 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,800 supposed to be a very big win for the Obama Hearts. 739 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,600 Hillary Clinton a Marie Slaughter and I think Michele 740 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,300 Flournoy was on that one say I'm power all these people really 741 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,700 want this war. Now, of course, it turned into 742 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:54,100 the absolute humanitarian catastrophe, that was 743 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:56,300 predictable. And we also have information 744 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,300 here from Hillary Clinton's emails. 745 00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:02,200 This from Sidney Blumenthal to Hillary Clinton explaining that 746 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,300 there was going to Likely be genocides against the black 747 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,700 population of Libya, you know, it's a it's a split contrary. 748 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:13,100 There's a lot of Arabs there, the Liz, Libyan, Islamic 749 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,700 fighting group. Obviously, that's that's Islam 750 00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:16,800 at. Those are Arabs. 751 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,300 And so there's a village or a town called tárrega in Libya, 752 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:25,700 30,000 people. It's made up of tour rags and 753 00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:30,300 ethnic minority that Gaddafi imported into Libya to, you 754 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,800 know, migrant work and working his security forces and 755 00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:36,200 Everything like that no longer exists the own, they're all 756 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,500 either dead or chased off to Molly were another war broke out 757 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,500 because of this war which you probably won't have time to talk 758 00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,300 about today buzz, you know, very significant. 759 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:52,300 But anyways, yeah, so there is, I guess really no no state in 760 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:55,600 Libya without moammar gadhafi, right? 761 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,100 And that that's absolutely been proven true. 762 00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:02,100 And, you know, we are warning about genocide in that actually 763 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:06,700 not I like full genocide of the Libyan population, but of some 764 00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:08,600 targeted ethnic minorities and love. 765 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,300 Yeah, they were absolutely completely removed from the 766 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:13,500 country because the US intervention. 767 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,300 So yeah. Well, I don't know if you guys 768 00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:19,000 think else on Libya, you want to ask. 769 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,500 No. I just wanted people to know 770 00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:25,800 that the the Viagra story was actually mentioned by Wolf 771 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,600 Blitzer on CN. N-- I mean the the fake news 772 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,400 that they're so terrified. Alex Jones might be Telling 773 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,500 people someday in the future that could rile up. 774 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:40,500 Someone crazy. They explicitly go forward with 775 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:43,500 just unapologetically. No one gets fired. 776 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600 No one gets their accounts removed. 777 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:50,900 It's, it's just so so Brazen. And, and in your face when you 778 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:55,500 come back to you want, let's just stay on that real quick. 779 00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:59,100 So, you know what? As predictable, you know, the 780 00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,700 humanitarian consequences in Libya were absolutely. 781 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:07,900 Awful, but one of the things that happened was slave markets 782 00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:11,700 and you know, chattel slavery, like selling people at markets 783 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:17,300 to go do forced labor, you know in Libya and it's just 784 00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:19,200 absolutely crazy. Right, you know, all these 785 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,100 people again, who weren't a false news and the rise of trump 786 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:25,900 and everything like that. It was their fake news that led 787 00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:28,200 to the rise of slave markets and Libya. 788 00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:32,700 And, you know, this is like the greatest wet dream of any clams. 789 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,100 Women that it, you know, could possibly exist it. 790 00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:39,000 If Trump really was the Grand Wizard and he could reinstall 791 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:45,000 the selling of black people in a country, but it was Obama and 792 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,900 CNM that did it right like that. The disconnect there between 793 00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:52,400 know what actually happens and what they claimed are worried 794 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,300 about is absolutely unbelievable. 795 00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:56,400 They create almost all the crisis. 796 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,300 They're constantly worried about and just to talk on this point a 797 00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:04,400 little bit more. So, you've had, I don't know if 798 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,800 it's actually a million, but hundreds of thousands of people 799 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,900 died in the past 10 years attempting to cross from Libya 800 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,500 into Europe. Right? 801 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,700 And so, you have the Democrats in the United States who are 802 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:21,000 constantly crying about immigration, and how cruel the 803 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,800 Republicans are because they won't let people in and in all 804 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,400 this, right? And yet, they just let hundreds 805 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,200 of thousands of people drowned in the Mediterranean Sea. 806 00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:35,900 Because of their own war in Libya and that is so like, you 807 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:38,500 know, I don't know if anybody was actually predicting that, 808 00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:43,000 there would be slave markets in Libya after Obama's War there. 809 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,300 But people were predicting that there will be a major Refugee 810 00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:50,100 crisis and as a Ramsey, brood points out. 811 00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:53,500 He's a writer and weary. Praise working anti-war.com. 812 00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:58,300 He has one of the best articles I've read in 2021 was Ramses and 813 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,500 he points out that Afghans drowning. 814 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,700 And throughout the entire Obama administration. 815 00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,000 Trying to cross from Libya into Europe. 816 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,600 None of them. Care number. 817 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,600 Oh, the poor Afghans. We have to say third, nothing. 818 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,300 You don't. Why? 819 00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,800 Because they were fleeing from the Taliban and so are not for 820 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,400 excuse me. They were fleeing from the 821 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,600 American war not from the Taliban. 822 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,500 And so if they end up in the west, there's no political 823 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,100 benefit for the war mongers to have them there. 824 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,700 But if you have Afghans who are fleeing the Taliban, well, then, 825 00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:30,900 you know, those are people who if there's a new government in 826 00:46:30,908 --> 00:46:32,800 Afghanistan. If they could go back to their 827 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,400 home and so us intervention, you know, this is the small sliver 828 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,800 of Afghans, who the the US intervention benefits, are the 829 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,000 ones that we want in the United States. 830 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200 That way, they could be a community that advocates for 831 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,000 war. But the actual refugees who 832 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,100 spent 20 years fleeing America's Wars have died all over the 833 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:53,600 world. They drowned in the English 834 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,600 Channel. They drowned in the 835 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,600 Mediterranean Sea, they drowned off the coast of Morocco, trying 836 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,800 to make it into Spain. And nobody has said that goddamn 837 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,800 word about them. M. 838 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,400 Because of they made it into the West. 839 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,500 They wouldn't have a, the political message that the 840 00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:09,700 warmongers want. And it just it really pisses me 841 00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:14,700 off most important information about the US military 842 00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:19,500 intervention in Yemen. So this is, this is one of the 843 00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:22,700 words I'm most passionate about keeping, you know, has because 844 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:29,400 of sky and, you know, listening to his show that I knew how bad 845 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,500 Yemen was going to be before. Not as bad as it is now. 846 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:38,100 And so now know it's hard for me to pick like a most important 847 00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:41,200 thing. But Scott really highlights and 848 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,100 always homes in, on the fat that so what you happened in Yemen, 849 00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:50,100 like go back to 2011. You had Ali Abdullah Saleh who 850 00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,600 have been the ruler of Yemen since 1990. 851 00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:58,100 It has major protest, rise up against him during the Arab 852 00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:01,500 Spring assassination attempt. He has to leave the country. 853 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,000 Tree to get medical care. So he's effectively deposed the 854 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,000 u.s. Organizes a one-man election. 855 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,300 Hillary could put together a one man of Legend called it an 856 00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:16,200 election and put Solace number 2. 857 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,800 Hotty into power. Now, Yemen's a very complicated 858 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,300 country and I don't think how do you ever like had a whole lot of 859 00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:28,100 actual Authority in Yemen, as far as like where his political 860 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:33,100 faction is from and all that but You know, he does get into year 861 00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:37,100 mandate and basically takes that two-year mandate and goes and 862 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,000 picks a fight with his group of the north called the houthis, 863 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,500 the houthis, you know, feel more than capable of taking on the 864 00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:49,000 less powerful hottie central government and actually win the 865 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,600 war and take over the capital city. 866 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,500 It's not they didn't start the war the, the central government 867 00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:59,800 did, but they wanted, they also after Sala recovered from his 868 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,500 assassination attempt in return. Ernst examine, he joins up with 869 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:08,400 the houthis and so, you know, Yemen's not the United States, 870 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,200 right? When Joe Biden became president 871 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,700 on January twentieth, twenty twenty twenty one that the 872 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,300 military is instantly. He's the commander-in-chief, 873 00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:21,000 right, you know the floor done, it division doesn't go off with 874 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,800 Trump. Well, you know that happens in 875 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,700 Yemen. Were a good chunk of The Army 876 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600 Goes. Awry Lee's to Salah side because 877 00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,700 you know, they don't care about Hillary Clinton's one man 878 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,400 election like, you know, Solace there. 879 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:35,700 Leader. And so yeah, the the houthis 880 00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:38,500 take over the country. And what does the United States 881 00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,400 do? Right after the houthis, take 882 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,300 over? They start working with the 883 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:48,800 houthis to Target aqap in Yemen. In, this is reported in the Wall 884 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,500 Street Journal and I believe the New York Times and in both cases 885 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,200 is very clear and there's an article in foreign policy about 886 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,800 Lloyd Austin, the current Secretary of Defense, who was 887 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,500 absolutely and we'll talk about this. 888 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,700 This like so upset with the u.s. Switching sides away from the 889 00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:08,500 houthis that he almost were a letter to Obama about it. 890 00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:12,000 But anyways, it's very clear that the u.s. 891 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,300 Was more than willing to work with the houthis. 892 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,400 But then the houthis take more and more territory more and more 893 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,900 power, and the Saudis get uncomfortable and they have a 894 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:24,700 new. Deputy new defense minister 895 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:28,500 named Mohammed bin Salman, who is now the Crown Prince and de 896 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,500 facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, but he sees a New opportunity in 897 00:50:32,508 --> 00:50:37,200 2015 to launch, what he thinks will be a very easy War to 898 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,500 remove the houthis from power and reinstall, a hottie to to 899 00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:46,700 control in Yemen and it just doesn't doesn't happen. 900 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:50,400 And so when the Saudis decide that they're going to wage a war 901 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,300 against the houthis, the mayor Kane's instantly switch sides in 902 00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:56,200 the war. They no longer bad. 903 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,300 The houthis. They start bagging, the Saudi 904 00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:03,900 attack ads against the houthis. But even worse, the Saudis and 905 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:08,400 their emirati Partners in Yemen on the ground, in Yemen star, 906 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:15,200 backing in 18 aqap and D Islamic State patch and in Yemen against 907 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,400 the houthis. And so the United States 908 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,400 completely switch sides in this war and it's just absolutely 909 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,500 unbelievable. That, you know, like essentially 910 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:29,200 all the wars that happened and the post-obama years that you 911 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,400 know, they flip from the Americans fighting. 912 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,500 It's the terrorists to fighting for the terrorist, right? 913 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,700 You know, Libya we're fighting a war against Gaddafi. 914 00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,500 But who does it benefit? You love the Libyan Islamic 915 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,800 fighting group in Syria were dreadfully, supporting the 916 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,600 terrorist. There's absolutely no question 917 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,900 about nobody even even complains about it and is, you know, 918 00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:52,000 explicitly done so because, you know, the terrorists are 919 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,500 apparently better than Assad, which is completely absurd. 920 00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:59,500 And then gammons, the other example, were, you know, we back 921 00:51:59,500 --> 00:52:03,300 the, the side, opposing the He's who are the main enemies of Al 922 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:08,300 Qaeda and Isis in Yemen, and then the our allies in Yemen the 923 00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:12,100 Saudis and the emiratis explicitly bat them fun them. 924 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,300 Just this past. Couple weeks. 925 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,000 There's a couple areas and Central. 926 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,500 Yemen one is the Marie Province. The other one is a Shop La 927 00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:25,500 Provence the houthis were making progress in both marine and 928 00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:28,500 Shop. Wha and then the UAE has this 929 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:32,400 group of 15,000 salafis? These are, you know, the 930 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,600 hardcore maybe not like Osama, Bin Laden worshippers, but 931 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,800 certainly fighting violent, Islamic extremist, right 15,000 932 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,500 of them. They deploy them to shaba. 933 00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:46,500 They take territory back from the houthi, right? 934 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:51,500 Like still even to this day. The American side in this war is 935 00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:54,700 backing the most Islamic extremist faction. 936 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,400 Against the side that has more than happy to work with the 937 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,900 Americans to kill them. It's absolutely unbelievable. 938 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,000 And then, finally most important information about intervention 939 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,300 in Somalia. Yeah. 940 00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:12,600 So I mean, there's a lot here in this is, you know, one the, the 941 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,600 parts in the book, where I think Scott has a real, what's the 942 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,300 libertarian term comparative advantage? 943 00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:23,300 Where it's not, like, Scott knows as much about Somalia as 944 00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:27,100 he's does Afghanistan, but he knows more about Somalia then, 945 00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:30,400 essentially anybody else in the US and really understands like 946 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,300 the 20 year history. 30-year history of the US intervention 947 00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:37,600 in is am in Somalia, going all the way back to, like, the Black 948 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,400 Hawk Down incident, which to me was just a Hollywood movie 949 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,400 growing up, right? So, yeah, definitely check out 950 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,500 the Somalia chapter of this book. 951 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,600 I guess the part that I dad's most interesting to me and I 952 00:53:51,607 --> 00:53:58,700 think maybe has The most significance at the moment is 953 00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:03,100 in. So, like, there's this period in 954 00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:06,600 Somalia after the government collapses, right? 955 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,500 Where you have Warlords, controlling everything and then 956 00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:14,100 it kind of involves into this semi Anarchist quasi-government 957 00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:16,000 called, the Islamic courts Union. 958 00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:21,900 It's a group of 13 Islamic groups in Somalia. 959 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,500 They essentially set up some kind of system. 960 00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:28,900 To allow some kind of like justice to happen. 961 00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:31,100 Right? Like there's some kind of court 962 00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:35,800 system now, is it probably the greatest like most liberal 963 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,600 justice system in the world? No, but if there is a standard 964 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,500 of Justice where like if somebody comes and steals 3 of 965 00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,700 your sheep, like you have somewhere to go to get some kind 966 00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:51,300 of restitution, that is going to create a more Civil Society than 967 00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:54,000 if your only option is essentially to go like, try to 968 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,200 steal your Get back or like, you know, kidnap your neighbor's kid 969 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,500 and hold them at Ransom. Right? 970 00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:02,700 Like, you know, these are kind of the two situations and so the 971 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:06,200 Islamic courts, Union was bring some stability, some progress on 972 00:55:06,207 --> 00:55:10,000 recovery to Somalia. And then the United States bat 973 00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:13,500 and Ethiopian invasion of Somalia. 974 00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:18,800 And at the time, the group in control of Ethiopia was the the 975 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,500 two grains. And now there are part of the 976 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,500 teepee LF the to Greg ins people's liberation. 977 00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:29,400 Prime, which is at war with the Ethiopian government right now. 978 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:33,800 And I think that the US has been pretty favorable and push The 979 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,700 Narrative of the two grains, quite a bit throughout that 980 00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:43,400 conflict and in part because, you know, the, the TPL f is like 981 00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:48,500 a proxy force of the US, where, you know, if they're if we have 982 00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:51,500 a sock puppet in charge in Ethiopia, which is the second. 983 00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:54,500 Most populous, African country, massive military. 984 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,000 Three right now, the guy bunch of drones and everything like 985 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,900 that. But, you know, back when the US 986 00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:01,000 was back in them. They had Advanced military 987 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,100 equipment to then this could be deployed to the region to squash 988 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:07,300 different groups and Americans won't care. 989 00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:10,100 Right? Like if the if the Ethiopians 990 00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:13,800 invade and are killing the somalis Keith, what chance do 991 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,900 you think I have of convincing? Any kind of nor me to listen to 992 00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:18,700 anything? I have to say about that. 993 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,100 If it's the American strapping bombs on Somalia, if American 994 00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,400 soldiers are dying in, Then Americans will definitely care. 995 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,800 And so, yeah, the the US has used the TPL f as a proxy force 996 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:37,400 in Somalia and the past and quashed the the one real effort 997 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,700 in the past couple decades that Somalia had towards establishing 998 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:47,300 a more functioning society that, you know, actually exist. 999 00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:51,600 Now, one other thing, I want to mention and I don't think this 1000 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,600 is in scotsblog. I didn't have a chance to re 1001 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,200 skim through this, my We part, but the less edit of the book. 1002 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,700 I read before Scott published. The final copy didn't have this 1003 00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:03,400 in there in 2016. The u.s. 1004 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,800 Actually tried to wage a counterinsurgency effort, a new 1005 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,000 car Insurgency, effort in Somalia, and they tried to take 1006 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:17,600 over this town bra re from the the al-shabaab, which after the 1007 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,700 Ethiopian intervention in in Somalia. 1008 00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:23,900 They crushed the Islamic courts Union. 1009 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,400 And Only one group of the Islamic courts Union survived, 1010 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,800 and that was, I'll shabaab, which has become, you know, the 1011 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,700 violent group. They publicly swear allegiance 1012 00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:37,100 to Al-Qaeda all the, I think it's kind of a miss miss. 1013 00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:40,000 No, Bert to say like, this is an Al qaeda-linked group as if 1014 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,800 they're going to like, carry out an attack against the west or 1015 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,500 something like that. You'll know, Target a US 1016 00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:48,800 military personnel in neighboring Kenya, but, you 1017 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,600 know, they're not crossing the Atlantic, right? 1018 00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:56,500 So anyways, As the u.s. Tries to wage this counter 1019 00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:59,200 Insurgency against al-shabaab, and in doing so. 1020 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,600 They partner with different branches of the Somali Special 1021 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,800 Forces and everything like that. The Somali Special Forces for 1022 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,800 whatever reason, showed up to town and executed 10 civilians, 1023 00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:16,100 the netsuite. Somebody from that town drove a 1024 00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:20,300 massive like, multi thousand-pound bomb, attempted 1025 00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:24,000 to get into the area of Somalia. That is like, duh. 1026 00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,800 Bad, dad green zone, where like the international embassies and 1027 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,500 all that are was unable to do. So, but along that road is, were 1028 00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:35,700 all the refugees into displaced people in Somalia were living. 1029 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,300 And so he detonated the bomb there, causing the biggest 1030 00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:41,800 terrorist attack in African history. 1031 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,700 And I believe this is October of 2016 that this attack happens. 1032 00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:48,600 Killing over 600 people. And they just have no idea how 1033 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,000 many people died because, you know, there's just refugees on 1034 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,100 this island side of the road that were obliterated by the 1035 00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:55,100 bomb. Blast. 1036 00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:58,200 But you know, this is just another example of how, you 1037 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,100 know, American blowback rates terrorism, and all that. 1038 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:05,600 The book is enough already time to end the war on terrorism. 1039 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,500 Kyle. Where is the best place to find 1040 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:10,000 your collection of contributions? 1041 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,600 Of the libertarian Institute is probably the best place for 1042 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,100 that. Which is probably the best place 1043 00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,900 to buy fools Fool's, errand, and enough already. 1044 00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:21,400 And you're coming book. Hope I say that if not, you 1045 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,800 could just said it out, but Scott tells me about it. 1046 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,300 So I assume it's cool to say, let's see. 1047 00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,500 So yeah. Yeah, so check out the 1048 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:32,300 libertarian Institute. I I'm the co-host of the 1049 00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:36,200 conflicts of interest podcast with Connor Freeman and will 1050 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,600 Porter Wills still on Hiatus, but he will be returning. 1051 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,300 And so me Connor and we'll put out at least three shows a week 1052 00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:47,200 on foreign policy. Mostly also cover war covid. 1053 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,100 That kind of stuff too. I do a news Roundup at the 1054 00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,400 libertarian Institute Monday through Friday. 1055 00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:54,600 All the while. I think are the most important 1056 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,700 news stories of the day. And then I'm at anti-war.com as 1057 00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:00,200 well. I put the viewpoints there 1058 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,700 together. So if you want to know what I 1059 01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:07,200 you know think are smart anti-war opinions than check out 1060 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,200 the viewpoints. They anti-war dicom in the 1061 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,600 spotlight and all that. Thanks to everyone for watching 1062 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,800 Keith, and I don't tread on anyone in the libertarian 1063 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,400 Institute Kyle. Thank you for your time, 1064 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,000 brother. Thanks, Keith.