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Welcome to Keith's night. 
Don't tread on anyone in the 

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libertarian Institute. 
Today. 

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I'm joined by Blake Masters. 
The chief operations officer of 

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teal Capital, president of the 
teal Foundation. 

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He's also running for Senate in 
Arizona, in the 2022, election 

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against Mark, Kelly is at 
Accurate. 

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That is right. 
We are is the best place for 

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people to find where you stand 
on the issues and your website, 

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just Blake Masters.com. 
The government is Justified and 

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man. 
An dating lockdowns and vaccines

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to stop the spread of a deadly 
virus. 

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How do you respond? 
Not this virus? 

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You can imagine if covid-19 a 
thousand times worse or was the 

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Bubonic plague or something, but
we have so much data on this. 

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Now. 
We know it's, you know, the flu 

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or two to three times worse than
the flu. 

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It's no picnic. 
You don't want covid, but I 

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really think if we surrender, 
all of our civil liberties, all 

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of our personal freedoms to the 
public health bureaucracy, not 

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That not warranted here. 
We'll just never get those 

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freedoms back during a supporter
of the, right to bear arms to 

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fight against. 
Tyranny. 

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What metric can we use to 
determine whether or not tyranny

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exists in America? 
I mean, I think you have to use 

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every metric, right? 
It's not just about tax rates. 

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Although, if a lot of people are
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income to the government. 
Every year. 

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That's not a good sign, right? 
It's not just about lockdowns. 

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Although yeah, if the government
can our But rarely close your 

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business at any time or 
arbitrarily enforced, you know, 

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curfews stay-at-home orders all 
of a sudden we start to look a 

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lot more like Australia, you 
know, which is having the 

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military and police basically 
enforce stay at home, quarantine

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orders on people. 
It's not just, you know, can you

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speak your mind freely in the 
Public Square, or in the new 

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digital equivalents, like, 
Twitter and Facebook, but we're 

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seeing increasingly. 
No, you're not allowed to speak 

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your mind in all these places. 
Get censored and canceled and 

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all this stuff. 
So there's no one metric but I 

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don't think we're kind of when 
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circumstances approach. 
I don't think we're doing so hot

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on this. 
I think it's we're sliding in 

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that direction for sure. 
Is there a general philosophy or

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set of ideas that guides your 
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Yeah, I mean, I've always been a
conservative person with 

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libertarian instincts. 
I probably used to be a lot more

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libertarian than I am. 
Now the one sort of animating 

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force behind all my political 
thinking, as early as I can 

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remember, that's never changed. 
Is this sense of anti 

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progressivism? 
I think progressivism capital P 

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as a political ideology is 
Coccyx is viewed as corrosive, 

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to get corrupts, almost 
everything it touches. 

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I think it's, you know, it wants
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at wants to throw out everything
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It is basically the ideology of 
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and just Communist Revolution. 
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different today, but I think 
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So, I think the progressive 
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always always the wrong one as 
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Serves as Libertarians, we want 
progress in society, you want 

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things to get better and better.
But you do that, you know, 

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almost slowly more humbly over 
time by doing the right thing by

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making investments in the 
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You don't do it with this sort 
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revolutionary mindset. 
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There's a quote, from a book 
hate Incorporated by Matt 

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Taibbi. 
He says so long as the public is

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busy hating each other and not 
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Next financial and political 
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Going off camera. 
There's very little danger of 

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anything. 
Like a popular Uprising. 

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Is that your read on the 
situation that we are 

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experiencing some sort of bread 
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amongst the populace I think. 
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what the the sort of the lead or
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instance. 
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Flames of racial division, you 
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AstroTurf and engineered To 
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I think most white people are 
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I think most black people are 
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I think there's, you know, some 
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or who let the evil in 
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from every category, but I think
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right in America. 
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And can we all have rights. 
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Can we all get along? 
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all have the same background and
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and when I see a political Elite
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obsess about you know, alleged 
differences between people and 

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sort of fan the flames and get 
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that. 
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stuff. 
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natural to me. 
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elite wants us to focus on 
whether it's some Grand 

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conspiracy, you know, to 
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From what's really going on or 
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how the fault lines of our 
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I think it's some kind of 
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it's bad. 
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get along and they want to focus
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that if we're just focused on 
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I'd say identity politics. 
What do you think about the this

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claim the masses in every nation
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Ignorant about politics. 
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more. 
What do you say to that? 

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Well, I want more people voting 
if and only if they're like, you

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know, informed and know what's 
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I'd rather have fewer people 
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know, sort of be informed and 
intelligent than just more 

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people, so that we need to get 
more people voting no matter 

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what thing that. 
It doesn't make a lot of sense 

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to me. 
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vote and you want more people to
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Go together in practice. 
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And a lot of the democratic 
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They don't want them to go 
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They just want the raw number of
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more ammo. 
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matters is that you have the 
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Do you have policies in place 
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protect private property rights?
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free and safe, but also kind of 
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The conditions under which 
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voting for tyranny, like all of 
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Is it? 
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for politicians and policies 
that are actually keeping people

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free while keeping them safe? 
Then I think that's good. 

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So I do think the left just 
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raw votes, and I think we need 
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public is educated, making sure 
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thinking about politics, in a 
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procedural ISM of mere. 
Casting votes is not going to 

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save us. 
Antonin, Scalia famously said, 

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the transformation of Charity 
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produced donors without love and
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What is your position on this 
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And the welfare state in 
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Yeah. 
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to Aristotle if I'm not 
mistaken, right? 

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Look, if you force someone to 
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a gun and I, you know, demand 
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tax revenue and then I give it 
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a welfare program. 
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goodness by, you know? 
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in the recipient says, no, 
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And so I do think that you're to
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Charity is better than welfare 
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have a safety net and Society. 
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think our welfare system is 
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now in the Biden economy. 
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businesses. 
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restart the economy because the 
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combined with the stimulus 
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covid worse. 
Hi is to keep a lot of people 

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sort of at work, you know, out 
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think that's bad. 
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they can. 
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people to work and then you do 
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You know, when people slip 
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is you bounce, back, and you can
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our welfare program, you know, 
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institutionalized and it becomes
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it's very hard to pair it down 
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the Dole Do you know the left? 
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middle-class where people are 
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They want a thin slice of elite 
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control. 
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class and then they want 
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underclass of people on the Dole
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As we know it whether that's Ubi
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They want a whole host of the 
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just dependent on their good 
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That I think that's how 
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When we look at the political 
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take a bite and I'm sure this 
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presidents, but he does not run 
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If you follow it, that's 
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He's got a lot of speech writers
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He's referred to as notes in QA.
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have a list of who to call on 
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the laws. 
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Washington, d.c. 
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They're so fascinating question,
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Where is the seat of power in 
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And, you know, I mean, I still 
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The presidency is pretty 
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with his Advanced age and 
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obviously, you know, sort of 
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that question, right? 
It's not him making the 

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decisions. 
Is that the staff around him, 

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you know, I don't I don't think 
it's It's Obama, just 

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puppeteering everything. 
I hear that a lot. 

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I think it's diffuse. 
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dangerous. 
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bureaucracy, you know, there's 
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in the White House that sort of 
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to speak. 
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bureaucracy in d.c., you know, 
parts of the Civil Service that 

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we can see. 
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can't. 
And I think that's a problem 

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because this is a bureaucracy. 
I think that His left-wing 

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especially over time. 
I think they're pretty hostile 

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to the to the ever flowing 
changes in electoral politics. 

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And I think it's a big problem, 
you know, the answer should 

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clearly be what's laid out in 
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The president has this set of 
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power. 
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the states. 
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I think we know the power 
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Partly is the president and I 
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know, they have some some degree
of power, although they don't 

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seem to like to use Is it? 
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whoever's got it. 
It's murky, it might be diffuse.

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It's not transparent and I don't
think it's being wielded well or

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wisely for the American people. 
So many people were humbled 

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And after the 2020 election, 
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among people saying that Trump 
Trump's black votes increased 

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after four years of the media on
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What are some main lessons? 
We can learn from 2016 Trump and

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the 2020 election specifically. 
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came on the scene and and busted
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I was meant does not work and 
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narrative, you know, Trump was 
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mistake and he defended that and
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good timing, and he just came 
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consultants and just give bullet
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not people agree with them or 
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someone running for president 
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what he was doing. 
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amount of honesty in the system 
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lot of the powers that be that 
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didn't want to be surprised 
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censorship that Facebook 
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Hunter, Biden, and the laptop 
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The New York Post Facebook 
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2016 for not doing enough to 
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over corrected and censored the 
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but I think one lesson is You 
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that very few people have heard 
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them to be true, powerful stuff.
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powerful people. 
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Seriously person 2016. 
They were just laughing. 

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He said that his comments about 
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Carolina to Jeb Bush. 
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said it in California as like, 
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When political said, 50 
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confirmed the hunter. 
Biden story is Russian. 

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Disinformation. 
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something like that and in 2016,
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agencies. 
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Hillary Clinton said this on the
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watching, but they never saw the
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Retraction by the New York 
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X. 
How is it that we can get people

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to stop seeing the news as a 
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we would see, tobacco 
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happening. 
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about this, but I think one of 
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did give us, is he massively D 
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media, you know, which I think 
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but it wasn't until you had a 
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basically win and then do battle
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every day for four years, which 
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And so, yeah, CNN still exists, 
MSNBC still. 

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Just too many people, watch 
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ever especially, you know, one 
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know, so called what everyone 
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left never wants to admit, you 
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people know that like the 
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The media, dr. 
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bureaucracy, the official 
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it wrong and they're all too 
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higher than ever and that's 
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What's true. 
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information Warfare environment 
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One Outlets reporting is Gospel,
but maybe you never could write.

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people have to piece together, 
information and decide and think

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for themselves. 
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really healthy. 
Even if it feels kind of crazy 

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right now. 
Assume that poverty is my 

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biggest issue. 
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inequality. 
If I just care about absolute 

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poverty in Arizona. 
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instead of Kelly? 
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Democratic regime are interested
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promising to lift them up. 
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the left. 
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people to rise up into the 
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I think in America Gotta you 
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raise a family on one single 
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And if most people can do that, 
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economy where that was possible 
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possible anymore. 
So I think it's an interesting 

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question, like, what happened 
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And can we reverse that? 
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about. 
Can can the average person look 

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forward to a well-paying job? 
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buying a house getting married 
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delivering that to people, Well,
you know still being sort of 

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respectful of people's Liberties
and basic in a right to be safe 

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and secure then I think you're 
winning and I don't think the 

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Democrats are interested in that
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much. 
Every time I say that they're 

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interested in making, sure 
people are running as hard and 

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hard on the treadmill as 
possible just to stay in the 

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same place while they call 
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can control people. 
So I think it's just isn't right

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there in the economic policies, 
you know, you get into all sorts

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of cultural stuff. 
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economic policies. 
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All to rise into the middle 
class and have a set of economic

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policies that I think actually 
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The Dems. 
Don't want to do anything. 

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They just want to give people 
checks occasionally so that they

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continue to vote Democrat and 
keep people down. 

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Well, even Paul Krugman has 
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going back to Otto von Bismarck 
ushering in this welfare, state 

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to secure, the role of the 
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So, some might say, well, the 
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again, half my income for 
reliant on them. 

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So this is probably as good as 
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So it almost Stops them from 
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as more legitimate than than 
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Otherwise would a lot of people 
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which I'm just glad that people 
are noticing it. 

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Do you have any Theory as to 
what causes inflation and what 

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the Cure might be? 
Well, I mean, it can be a 

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complicated question, some of 
the details but I think the 

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simple answer is printing money 
right by definition. 

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Get out creates inflation, 
right? 

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We're just expanding the money 
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of a dollar and usually you can 
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If you do it slowly enough, 
right? 

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I think the dollars lost like 98
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since, you know, 1913 or 
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five or six trillion dollars in 
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federal government is done. 
This is what happens. 

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So this this seems like a clear 
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Biden's policies at this point. 
They'll try to blame Trump. 

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But again, maybe some of the 
early stimulus stuff was 

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necessary. 
If you were going to lock people

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down. 
We shouldn't have had any 

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lockdowns, but given that we 
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Yeah, that was that was an 
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an emergency, but then you can't
keep doing it for like the next 

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year, but I didn't, you know, 
sending stimulus checks out as 

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late as summer of 2021. 
And when you do that, when you 

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print trillions and trillions of
trillions of dollars that you 

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should expect to see some 
inflation. 

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And so I think unfortunately all
the inflation that we're seeing,

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now, we're just getting started.
I think it's going to get a lot 

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worse. 
One of the great contradictions 

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of the progressive world view. 
Is we have someone like, you 

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know, Woodrow Wilson or even 
Teddy? 

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Roosevelt is Glenn Beck has 
argued was a progressive first 

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time. 
They'll say they monopolise are 

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terrible. 
If you have a monopoly, you get 

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worse quality in higher prices 
than you. 

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Otherwise would also government 
needs to monopolize the money 

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supply. 
Well, in that sense, you're 

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going probably to get worse 
quality and a lower purchasing 

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power. 
Then you otherwise would what do

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you think about things like 
cryptocurrency or Bitcoin as 

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Alternatives that people can do 
to hedge themselves. 

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I'm asking the president of kill
capital for a reason. 

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But what else can we do to fight
against inflation? 

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Please work. 
Cryptocurrency into the answer. 

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Yeah. 
I think I'm look. 

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I'm Pro cryptocurrency. 
I think it's fascinating. 

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I think it's fascinating at the 
technological level and it's 

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fascinating at the Monitor and 
level. 

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And I've been into it for a 
number of years. 

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So I totally support crypto. 
I don't think the government 

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should Look to ban it or 
anything like that. 

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I do think, you know, there's 
ways to spin it where, you know,

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Bitcoins really bad for the US 
dollar and this is existential 

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and this is a threat to the, to 
the regime or whatever. 

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And this is, this is kind of the
line that you see from Hillary 

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Clinton or Elizabeth Warren, you
know, I think there are fearful,

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they like, their government 
Monopoly money supply, right? 

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And they're fearful of anything 
that might disrupt it. 

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I'm, I would Disagree with them 
I think. 

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But I also have a different take
where I think Bitcoin could be 

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the best check that we have on 
the FED like you could actually 

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help the dollar because right 
now, right? 

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We just have a completely 
undisciplined monetary policy 

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whenever politicians can sell it
or wherever the FED can do it, 

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you know, they have the capacity
and they actually do just print 

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trillions of dollars just to 
create new money and and that 

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has the effect of diluting 
everyone else's savings. 

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It's basically just Taxation by 
another number means, right? 

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And they can do that because of 
this Monopoly Dynamic that you 

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articulated because it's not a 
snow free and open exchange. 

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The dollar is the reserve 
currency of the world, you know,

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all debts are denominated in 
dollars in the United States and

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you have to pay your taxes in 
dollars. 

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So there's no way out of the 
system and they can make the 

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system worse and worse with 
Bitcoin and the technological 

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inability to ban it. 
I think, you know, it may 

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actually They do what gold was 
supposed to do. 

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It may just be the safe haven, 
you know, it's 21 million 

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Bitcoins assume one or two are 
lost forever. 

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So there's only 19 million. 
You can never make more. 

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It's the hardest money 
imaginable. 

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And so if the government knows 
that Bitcoin exists, which 

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obviously does maybe in the next
10 years, they won't be able to 

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get away with printing as much, 
right. 

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Maybe people will invest your 
smart money, big money. 

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A lot bigger than what we've 
seen so far. 

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We'll just flock to Bitcoin. 
And when you have a nun 

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cancellable, you know digital 
money that's just super hard. 

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I think it really could impose a
sense of discipline on the FED 

455
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,100
that basically nothing has been 
able to in the last hundred 

456
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,000
years. 
So I'm a little bit more 

457
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,900
optimistic. 
Certainly from the individuals 

458
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:47,200
perspective. 
I think it's a godsend, you 

459
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,100
know, like if you just keep your
money in a savings account, 

460
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:54,300
earning less than 1% a year. 
You're going to get destroyed by

461
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,200
inflation. 
If you keep some of in Bitcoin, 

462
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,800
as a I think that is an 
innovation that's now accessible

463
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,100
to you, that wasn't 10 years 
ago. 

464
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:07,600
And I think that's amazing. 
I think it's just good for 

465
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:14,300
individual investors, the PHD 
Economist Thomas Soul, wrote in 

466
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:16,200
reality. 
Most of the great Fortunes in 

467
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,400
American history, have resulted 
from someone's figuring out how 

468
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000
to reduce costs. 
So was to be able to charge 

469
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,000
lower prices and therefore, gain
a mass market for the product. 

470
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,400
Henry, Ford did this with 
automobiles? 

471
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,500
Rockefeller with oil Carnegie 
with steel and Sears Penny 

472
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:33,300
Walton and other department 
store. 

473
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:36,900
Chain's founders with a variety 
of products. 

474
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800
How can we take this lesson? 
Apply it to the healthcare 

475
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,300
industry and have affordable 
health care for all Americans 

476
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:47,100
totally and you start by asking 
that question, which I don't 

477
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,700
think too many policymakers. 
Do I think people have basically

478
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:54,500
internalized this view where the
costs of everyday essentials 

479
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:58,600
Healthcare housing education 
just get More expensive every 

480
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,900
year, right? 
We tend to assume that because 

481
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:02,700
that's been the case for 40 or 
50 years. 

482
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000
This is some iron law of 
physics, but it's not. 

483
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,100
And you've seen other industries
that you mentioned right? 

484
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:12,100
Certainly it or flat flat screen
TVs, like the costs of these 

485
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,600
things. 
They just go down every year in 

486
00:25:14,608 --> 00:25:17,900
the quality goes up and that's 
pretty consumer, you know, from 

487
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:20,900
the ratio Healthcare, you know, 
there's some ways to spend it, 

488
00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:22,300
where the quality goes up every 
year. 

489
00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:24,900
Actually, I think it's pretty 
flat but certainly, the costs 

490
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:27,400
are rising astronomically 
relative. 

491
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:30,100
To what we get same thing in 
education and when you look at 

492
00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,400
the healthcare industry, are you
look at that, you know, 

493
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,800
education higher education, what
you see is a lot of cartel like 

494
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,500
organization, you see a lot of 
giant consolidation, you know, 

495
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:47,500
Hospital systems and in Burma 
suitable companies, you see a 

496
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,600
lot of regulatory capture where 
a lot of the people running. 

497
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,400
These companies used to work in 
the government or maybe soon 

498
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,100
will and there's this revolving 
door and you get legislation 

499
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,900
through. 
Written to protect Giant 

500
00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:02,000
incumbents, and keep out startup
entrance. 

501
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,800
And I think we have to go in 
and, you know, part of its 

502
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,200
deregulation, part of it is just
hacking away at some of the 

503
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,300
corruption and the waste and 
over consolidation and figuring 

504
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,700
out what's a more lightweight 
regulatory footprint. 

505
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:21,300
We can take and get prices back 
in either. 

506
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,800
The biggest problem with 
Healthcare and the costs in 

507
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,200
America is that the costs are 
totally opaque. 

508
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,600
And so, if I'm a consumer of 
healthcare, but I'm never 

509
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,300
interacting with prices. 
You know, it's just some 

510
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:35,800
Byzantine process where at the 
end. 

511
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,700
I get some bill that I can't 
understand. 

512
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:42,100
That's, that's bad. 
It's bad to have a system where 

513
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:48,300
an EMR I can cost 600 bucks or, 
you know, 15,000 bucks. 

514
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:53,600
Just depending on the the 
arbitrary flow where can get the

515
00:26:53,608 --> 00:26:56,000
procedure in town. 
And you know, who's the 

516
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,500
attending physician? 
And what had they negotiated 

517
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:01,900
with which insurer, you know, 
like that doesn't make sense at 

518
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:03,700
all. 
And so I think deregulating 

519
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:07,900
quite a bit taking away some of 
the protections enjoyed by 

520
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:10,900
incumbents, making it much more 
open and competitive and getting

521
00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:14,200
pricing back into the system. 
Like real market pricing, I 

522
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,800
think is just obviously the way 
to do it. 

523
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:22,100
Yeah, I really like that answer 
because if you look at, you can 

524
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,600
almost just take their arguments
and just apply it to different 

525
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,100
field. 
So they'll say if you need so 

526
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,900
much as a driver's license to 
vote, millions of people will 

527
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,600
not be able to have access to 
voting. 

528
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,600
It's like, oh, okay. 
What if you need hundreds of 

529
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600
licenses to just start a 
business and then more licenses 

530
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,700
to trade in. 
Then you're constantly getting 

531
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,700
audited by OSHA and everyone 
else. 

532
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,900
Well those regulations hurt 
those in lower income. 

533
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:50,500
Brackets more than Walmart's not
sweating that OSHA is coming 

534
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:54,000
around, but everyone else is and
the Department of Agriculture. 

535
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,500
So, thank you for prioritizing 
that Elon Musk recently said 

536
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:02,400
that IP legislation needs total 
reform. 

537
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:06,500
And that's why he is making all 
his patents open source. 

538
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:10,600
Do you think there's anything in
that area that we can do to, you

539
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,300
know, have a more 
environmentally friendly 

540
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,200
products and services? 
Yeah. 

541
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,700
I mean the patent stuff is 
interesting, right? 

542
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:18,900
Right. 
It's right there in the 

543
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:22,500
Constitution. 
But of course how it's actually 

544
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:27,000
implemented administrated is is 
a question for policymakers 

545
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,200
today. 
I yeah, I'm not sure about the 

546
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,200
IP regime, you know, people 
critique it from all different 

547
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,900
ways that want to take a fresh 
look at it. 

548
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:39,300
I do think in general. 
We're just drowning in 

549
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:43,500
bureaucracy as a society. 
Everything is over regulated. 

550
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,700
This is not to say we shouldn't 
have any regulation. 

551
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,300
I mean, I think we We can and we
should. 

552
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:54,700
But I do think everything is and
I do almost mean everything is 

553
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:59,100
over regulated over administered
over bureaucratized. 

554
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,300
And so it's actually just really
hard for individuals to exert 

555
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,800
agency in our system. 
And you have some Herculean type

556
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,000
entrepreneur, folks like Elon 
Musk, you know, who's able to 

557
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,200
sort of break through and 
actually create new and 

558
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,000
world-changing companies, but 
his appetite for risk is, you 

559
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,100
know, One in a billion and we're
not for him and I think Jeff 

560
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,800
Bezos too. 
But mainly Ilan, you know, we 

561
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,700
wouldn't be able to send 
astronauts up into space on an 

562
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:34,200
American aircraft because the 
government with a giant budget, 

563
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,500
many many times, ilan's budget 
at SpaceX, you know, basically 

564
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:42,000
was unable to innovate and 
unable to to build a Next 

565
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Generation rocket, and human 
delivery system. 

566
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,200
So we know that most It advances
come from the private sector. 

567
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,300
We know most great advances come
from the form of like a actually

568
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,100
serve a lone individual driving 
a business for driving a 

569
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,900
scientific discovery. 
But in the modern world, we 

570
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,900
become so bureaucratized. 
And we throw so many owners 

571
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:06,200
regulations at people so many 
hurdles that they have to jump 

572
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,400
over. 
We're just getting fewer and 

573
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,900
fewer of those breakthrough 
Innovations. 

574
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,500
And I think the result is a much
more stagnant society, that 

575
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,100
looks a lot more like Europe 
now, right? 

576
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,900
It's just man. 
Managed to climb and then and 

577
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,300
then becomes cultural, people, 
stop feeling like they have a 

578
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:24,700
sense of agency, like they might
actually participate and do 

579
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,000
something great. 
So they don't try and then it 

580
00:30:27,008 --> 00:30:30,000
just becomes this feedback loop 
and I think that's how a rich 

581
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Society becomes decadent and an 
unproductive and before long it 

582
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,500
gets sort of eaten alive from 
the inside. 

583
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:42,700
I love your idea about being 
able to live and raise a family 

584
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:46,400
off. 
One income the economics that 

585
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600
I've studied was mostly at the 
Ludwig. 

586
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,900
Von mises Institute in Alabama. 
My general understanding is that

587
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,000
in order to get real wage 
increases, you would want to 

588
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,500
competition to allow wages to be
bit up. 

589
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,200
And at the same time, having 
free market of capital 

590
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,000
investment, which allows each 
individual worker to become more

591
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,200
productive over time. 
While you have all competing for

592
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,300
products and services to get 
lower and price, is how real 

593
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,800
wages will grow over time. 
Do you, what are your thoughts 

594
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,700
on that? 
And how can we make it? 

595
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,800
So we can have this idea of 
yours of one income per family? 

596
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:24,000
Yeah. 
I mean, I basically think that 

597
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,100
approach is right, you need 
wages to Rising energy, costs to

598
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:32,100
fall costs, are falling in some 
things, as we've discussed your 

599
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,400
TV's cheaper, your toasters 
cheaper, and it was five or ten 

600
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,400
years ago, and that's not 
trivial. 

601
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,200
That's not bad. 
Bad, but your TV was never a big

602
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,900
part of your budget. 
Anyway, your house, your 

603
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,800
education, your kids, education 
Healthcare. 

604
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Those are the drivers, and those
costs are rising so much faster 

605
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,100
than inflation. 
Even that's a problem. 

606
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:55,800
Right? 
It means that if you don't have 

607
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,400
massive wage growth, and if 
anything we're Contracting now, 

608
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,600
I think wages are down two 
percent under Biden. 

609
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000
Then you're just it's not even 
running harder to stay in the 

610
00:32:06,008 --> 00:32:07,700
same place. 
Your quality of life is actually

611
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,900
just Declining every year, which
I think, is what millions of 

612
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:12,700
Americans? 
Tens of millions are 

613
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:16,000
unfortunately experiencing now, 
so you need wages to rise. 

614
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
You need costs to fall, the 
costs. 

615
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,500
We've discussed a little bit. 
I think you can you can go and 

616
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:23,700
attack some of the 
concentration, the regulatory 

617
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,100
structures behind, especially 
Healthcare and education to an 

618
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,000
extent and housing with zoning 
and all that. 

619
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,100
I meet with so many home 
builders and they're ready to 

620
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,600
go. 
You know, they they know how to 

621
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,000
build homes where so much more 
efficient at moving Earth and 

622
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,600
big big. 
I was now that we were a couple 

623
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200
decades ago but houses cost more
and more mainly because the 

624
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,900
environmental regulatory review 
stuff. 

625
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:47,700
It's just crazy. 
So I think we could do a lot 

626
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:51,300
with the political will to 
attack those costs wages to 

627
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:53,600
rise, you know, part of this is 
the education system that we 

628
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,200
have in our country. 
It's so so bad, you know, we 

629
00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:00,200
pretend that everybody has to go
to a four-year liberal arts 

630
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:05,200
school or get a four-year, you 
know, BS or be a I just don't 

631
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,100
think that's true. 
I think we should be 

632
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,000
recognizing. 
Most people shouldn't go to 

633
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,500
college. 
There's be like a thousand 

634
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:12,400
different paths to the middle 
class. 

635
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Not just one. 
And we need to more heavily 

636
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,300
actually invest in vocational 
training, you know, actually 

637
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,800
start working with kids working 
with 12 year olds, you know, 16 

638
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,600
year olds should know how to 
hang drywall, you know, you make

639
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,100
might do something very 
different your life. 

640
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:31,700
But like there's no reason why 
you should sit in a room, you 

641
00:33:31,708 --> 00:33:36,100
know, from kindergarten to 12th 
grade and basically only receive

642
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,900
a certain kind of You know, 
mostly political and mostly not 

643
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,700
even that great academic 
education without actually 

644
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:45,400
learning skills that might, you 
know, translate to the 

645
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,100
workforce. 
So there's that, you know, in 

646
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:52,100
general, I'm totally with you 
free markets and capital so 

647
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:55,700
people can attract investment. 
So people can can invest in 

648
00:33:55,708 --> 00:34:00,100
productive projects. 
I am a fan of tariffs to 

649
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,600
equalize the playing field, say,
between the United States and 

650
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,900
China. 
Like, I don't think there's any 

651
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:07,100
free trade with China, whenever 
we call free trade, with China, 

652
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,900
as you Really just us not doing 
anything. 

653
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:13,800
And then China, with the way 
that Society is Right communist 

654
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,900
totalitarian dictatorship. 
So they've got their thumb on 

655
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:17,900
the scale. 
They're subsidizing State 

656
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,800
industry. 
They're going to dump steel onto

657
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,900
the US, and in theory, that's 
good. 

658
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:24,400
For some consumers and in 
practice. 

659
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,500
I think it devastates, domestic 
manufacturing. 

660
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,300
So, I'm in favor of tariffs, to 
the extent. 

661
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,900
They equalize the playing field,
but after that, I want as much 

662
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:35,199
free trade as possible. 
I think if you get government 

663
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,199
out of the way, yeah. 
Just rise as you get 

664
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:41,800
technological development, and 
each worker becomes marginally 

665
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,800
more productive, but we know how
this works. 

666
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,400
And so it's so frustrating to 
have, you know, hundreds and 

667
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,600
hundreds of congressmen and 
probably 90 Senators, not 

668
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,900
understand the stuff. 
Why does the left keep winning? 

669
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:56,900
I think they're deadly serious 
about winning. 

670
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:00,500
I think the right is not to a 
first approximation. 

671
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,500
There's some problem with the 
view of American exceptionalism 

672
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,000
here where the right just thinks
like. 

673
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,600
Oh America is the best country 
that Has ever existed. 

674
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,700
Which is true, but if you only 
think that and you forget that 

675
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:16,400
every generation, we have to put
in the work and renew, our 

676
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,500
institutions, keep them working,
right? 

677
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:23,000
Keep this vision of a good 
Society, make sure basically the

678
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,600
things are in order, if you 
don't actually do that hard 

679
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,300
work, you'll lose it. 
And what was once the great 

680
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:33,200
greatest country in the world 
will fall and the left, you 

681
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,500
know, I think their agenda is 
ghastly, you know, open borders 

682
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:41,800
and And all the social movements
that I think are divisive. 

683
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,900
We talked about some of the 
racial agitation that I think 

684
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:47,300
they do black lives matter and 
stuff like that. 

685
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,400
I don't agree with the agenda. 
But I do at least acknowledge 

686
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,800
that, they work hard to achieve 
it everyday. 

687
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,100
I think the left is obsessed 
with taking one more set of 

688
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,300
mirror, which is getting into to
our institutions and taking them

689
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,500
over. 
And I think all the right has 

690
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:05,800
wanted to do for decades is play
defense. 

691
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,100
We're very good at saying like 
oh, Oh, don't do that. 

692
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:10,600
That's unconstitutional or 
that's illegal. 

693
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,800
That's bad. 
But it's like what do we do 

694
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,800
about it? 
And if you're not actually 

695
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,600
interested in using power, 
intelligently and wisely and in 

696
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,600
going on offense, then I think 
you just lose think the last 

697
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,200
place to win and that's 
something that we need to learn 

698
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,000
from. 
I went to a lot of school board 

699
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,600
meetings in Scottsdale and 
Chandler and Phoenix after 

700
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,900
Ducey, was elected. 
And the, I don't know what other

701
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:42,100
word besides entitlement to use 
was. 

702
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,800
What was the general feeling 
that I got amongst the teachers 

703
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,900
there and their supporters? 
Their default position is were 

704
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,700
entitled to billions of dollars 
of other people's money and it 

705
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:57,500
either works or it needs. 
More funding, there's no we need

706
00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,800
new management or we need 
vouchers or we need to give 

707
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,100
people the option to opt out of 
funding the school's just as you

708
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:08,500
would have the choice to opt out
of funding the Catholic schools.

709
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:15,000
What do you do with such a 
corrupt and divisive schooling 

710
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,900
system? 
I can't even call it education. 

711
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Right? 
Well look, I think there are 

712
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,200
many, many, many great teachers 
out there and teachers unions 

713
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,900
are horrible. 
And it used to be that, you 

714
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:29,100
know, you weren't able to say 
both of those things because if 

715
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,400
he said the second, if you say 
teachers unions or horrible, 

716
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,100
you're somehow anti-teacher, and
I think that was true even just 

717
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:36,700
five years ago, but now it's not
true. 

718
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:38,100
Now. 
I think everybody acknowledges 

719
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:42,200
this, the teachers unions have 
moved so far left so fast and 

720
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,400
they've been so transparently. 
Yeah, entitled frankly, and 

721
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,300
anti-child, and their 
fundamental orientation. 

722
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:51,200
Just look at how they handled 
the covid pinned in it. 

723
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,400
That, I think most most parents.
Most voters now, know these 

724
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,600
institutions exist to protect 
themselves, you know, to grow 

725
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,000
and it's not about delivering 
the best education for the for 

726
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,800
the child. 
Even though that that may well 

727
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,600
be what's in the in the heart of
most individual teachers. 

728
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,400
And so I think distinguishing 
between teachers and the 

729
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,900
teachers unions is very 
important right now because I do

730
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:17,700
think the right needs to make 
war on the teachers unions, you 

731
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,700
know, they're they're teaching 
kids or they're seeking to teach

732
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:24,000
kids all sorts of toxic sort of 
left wing. 

733
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:28,800
I think increasingly race-based 
ideology and that's bad. 

734
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,000
But if even if you wipe that 
stuff away like the education 

735
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,200
system itself, like the quality 
of the school and has just been 

736
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,500
going down. 
It's been failing for a long 

737
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,100
time. 
We're graduating kids that can't

738
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:43,400
even read or write and you know,
the solution is always just 

739
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,700
lower standards, just lower 
standards. 

740
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:49,000
And then look look how much 
higher graduation rate is since 

741
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,100
we made it easier to graduate. 
Well, that's actually horrible. 

742
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,400
It's horrible for the kids, 
right? 

743
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,800
I think you got a The bar High 
until kids to jump and go get it

744
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,600
and give them the support that 
they need to to do that. 

745
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,300
But that that Spirit of 
achievement, I think is lacking 

746
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,900
in so many of the schools and 
yeah, you're right. 

747
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,300
The answer is always more money 
and more money just makes a bad 

748
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:12,300
system even worse. 
There's something paradoxical in

749
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,200
there. 
I think we see that clearly but 

750
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,200
the left still doesn't see it. 
I think in Arizona, we spend 

751
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:21,200
north of eleven or twelve 
thousand dollars per student in 

752
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,000
the public school system to 
educate a child. 

753
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:27,400
For a whole year and that's just
crazy. 

754
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,900
You know, first of all, half 
that money, probably stays 

755
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,500
outside of the classroom and 
goes to administrators. 

756
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,700
You know, it ranks of the 
administration is just swelling 

757
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,700
as their hiring diversity and 
equity and inclusion consultants

758
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,900
and all this crap, but I think 
you, I mean, you can clearly 

759
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,200
educate a child for three or 
four thousand dollars a year. 

760
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:47,800
I mean, 100 years ago, people 
did it for a lot less and the 

761
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,700
quality of the education was 
just way better go look at an 

762
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:54,000
entrance exam, you know, to a 
high school or two. 

763
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:59,900
You know, to a college from like
1908 and there's nothing special

764
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:01,500
about those kids. 
They weren't Geniuses, but they 

765
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,100
were disciplined. 
And the school's worked and the 

766
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,600
teachers were serious and 
empowered to actually get 

767
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,400
results from the students. 
So, I don't know, maybe it's as 

768
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,600
simple as starting by Banning 
teachers unions, like I'm not 

769
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,200
sure you should be allowed to 
unionize against the taxpayer or

770
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,900
to unionize against children, 
which I think that's what the 

771
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,100
teachers unions do. 
About a year ago. 

772
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:28,300
It was terrible to assume that 
someone is high up in government

773
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:32,600
as Anthony fauci would ever lie 
or be self-interested or not 

774
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,400
care to give people the truth. 
And then one of many videos went

775
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,300
around primarily the 60 Minutes 
one in March of 2020 where he 

776
00:40:40,308 --> 00:40:41,800
said people shouldn't be wearing
masks. 

777
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,000
In fact, sometimes you can end 
up touching your face and it's 

778
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,800
worse than it otherwise would 
be. 

779
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,600
He also said, you know what, he 
had dismissed the lab League 

780
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,700
theory. 
He had said schools. 

781
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:54,600
To stay close. 
He had said that no prior 

782
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,300
pandemic has ever spread from 
asymptomatic people. 

783
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,300
So it's nothing. 
We have to worry about after all

784
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:03,500
this, the response was. 
Well, sometimes you have to lie 

785
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,300
to the idiot masses because 
there's people who just won't. 

786
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,300
If you tell them the truth, they
quite literally cannot handle 

787
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:12,900
it. 
How do you communicate to that 

788
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,000
mindset? 
That the elites are either 

789
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,500
right? 
And Justified or for god sakes. 

790
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,200
We just need them either. 
Way the left stays in power. 

791
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:26,100
You know, it's just really sad. 
I think cauchy's behaviors 

792
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,600
criminal, I do for the longest 
time. 

793
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,200
I wanted to think he was simply 
incompetent, you know, a 

794
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,500
bureaucrat had lost his Edge 
because he was out of industry 

795
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,200
for a while. 
But when you look at like now we

796
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,500
have enough data. 
All right, we've got a got many 

797
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:46,700
months of pandemic, under our 
belt, with him at the helm and 

798
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,300
you look at the false 
statements. 

799
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,100
You look at the emissions, you 
look at the outright lies. 

800
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:58,100
The smugness to, you know, that 
he carries on with makes it sort

801
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,500
of particularly revolting, but I
do just on the lab leak stuff 

802
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:03,400
alone. 
Like he testified to Congress 

803
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,900
that, you know, we didn't fund 
the Wuhan Institute of Neurology

804
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:12,000
and then like, we actually know 
that know his, you know, his, 

805
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,400
his team via the ecohealth 
alliance and Irish grants and 

806
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,300
what not. 
Like we were involved in funding

807
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:24,900
that research and I think that 
one I alone like he should be 

808
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:26,900
investigated. 
I mean, he's obviously fired on 

809
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:29,400
day one, you should be 
investigated and if he was 

810
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:33,700
actually, you know, found guilty
of lying, he should be 

811
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,700
prosecuted, but it's not going 
to happen because we have no 

812
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:40,800
accountability for our Elites, 
which I don't disgusting, he can

813
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,000
lie with impunity and I do think
that dr. 

814
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,900
Fauci himself was responsible 
for the deaths of Untold people 

815
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:49,400
in this pandemic. 
Like he gives the wrong advice. 

816
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,400
It's politically motivated. 
I think it's killing a lot of 

817
00:42:53,408 --> 00:42:54,500
people. 
I really do. 

818
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,800
Thank you so much for being 
generous with your time. 

819
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,300
I have two more questions for 
you. 

820
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,200
I want to get your response to 
this statement when antifa and 

821
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,800
BLM Riot, they intimidate 
powerless innocent people, the 

822
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,900
January 6. 
The Riders intimidated 

823
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,700
intimidated. 
The most evil people in the 

824
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,700
country who are also the most 
powerful. 

825
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,400
There was no moral equivalence. 
How do you respond to that? 

826
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,300
Well, I don't really think there
is a moral equivalent. 

827
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,100
I mean, I don't I think people 
were allowed to burn cities down

828
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:30,500
and Riot and loot with impunity 
right in the summer of 2020, and

829
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,400
nothing happened to them and in 
the off chance they were 

830
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,500
arrested, right? 
Then candidate for vice 

831
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:37,600
president. 
Senator. 

832
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,200
Kamala Harris was ready to bail 
them out. 

833
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:43,300
And so that contrast between all
those people, right? 

834
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:45,300
If you're a left wing, you can 
commit, whatever, sort of 

835
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:48,300
violence you want. 
Maybe the system will Down on 

836
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,000
you, but it'll treat you with 
kid gloves. 

837
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,800
But if you stepped over that 
line onto the Capital Property, 

838
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:58,400
I'm FBI is still hunting for 
people, you know, January 6th 

839
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,400
defendants. 
We've heard some of the horrible

840
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,800
stories about these people being
in solitary confinement, you 

841
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,500
know, denied proper, access to 
counsel, truly barbaric 

842
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:11,900
conditions for what weren't 
violent crimes, you know, I 

843
00:44:11,908 --> 00:44:16,300
think the arizona-based call 
them to Q Shaman or whatever 

844
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:19,400
with the Viking horns. 
That kind of got 41 months in 

845
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:25,600
jail, 41 months, whenever he 
clearly just needs some, you 

846
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,500
know, some some Mental Health 
Resources and therapy something,

847
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,000
you know, some community 
service, you know, I'm not 

848
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
condoning trespassing. 
I don't think you should 

849
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,900
trespass and disrupt the 
Congress when they're trying to 

850
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:42,300
do something but you look a lot 
of the video clips to yes, some 

851
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,600
people were pushing, you know, 
police and you shouldn't do that

852
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,700
and you should be held 
accountable. 

853
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:47,800
I don't think it's 41 months in 
jail. 

854
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,000
But certainly, that guy wasn't 
even charged with a violent 

855
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,600
crime. 
The key was just there as a 

856
00:44:53,607 --> 00:45:01,800
trespasser, and that's not good.
But the repercussion has been so

857
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,900
disproportionate and I think too
few elected officials are 

858
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:07,800
willing to speak on this. 
I really find it disgraceful and

859
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,200
it's only possible in an FBI and
the doj that's just been 

860
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,000
completely weaponized taken over
by the left. 

861
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,200
So I think it's basically 
day-one stuff. 

862
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:23,000
For the next strong Republican, 
president in 2020, for to clean 

863
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,700
house at the FBI and doj. 
Because once they're allowed to 

864
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:29,100
do this, once they're allowed to
turn, a blind eye, to basically 

865
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,500
a narco tyranny and all the 
crimes that we saw the BLM and 

866
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,900
antifa can do. 
And then just come down hard on 

867
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:39,300
somebody because a pro-trump 
protest got out of hand. 

868
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:43,100
I think if you let that kind of 
Gap, persist pretty soon, the 

869
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:45,600
rule of law is gone and then 
it's just mob rule. 

870
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:50,800
Yeah, yeah, excellent points, 
but my final thing, this one is 

871
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,200
the most important to me just 
because I run into it, the, the 

872
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:02,100
most often it on my screen here.
I have victims of police killing

873
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:06,900
now, men, while 50% of the 
population are over, 95%, This 

874
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:09,900
does not mean that men are 
discriminated against because 

875
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:15,000
they have different behaviors. 
So when I see that blacks are 

876
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,700
represented disproportionate Out
of killings. 

877
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:22,000
I don't, you know, exactly join 
BLM because I know that there 

878
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,400
are different rates of crime, 
even when you look at in a 

879
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,800
racial crime black-on-white, 
violence tends to be about 10 to

880
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,700
20 times higher than white on 
black violence. 

881
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:36,700
According to a 20-18 survey by 
the Bureau of Justice statistics

882
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:39,300
and the National Crime 
victimization survey. 

883
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:41,900
Even AOC and Ayana Presley's 
claim. 

884
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:44,300
That white supremacy is 
everywhere White's according to 

885
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:46,700
the u.s. 
Census of 2018 are about the The

886
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:50,500
14th highest income after Indian
Taiwanese Chinese Korean 

887
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,500
Cambodian Etc. 
And of course, we never hear 

888
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,700
about these people. 
Tony tempeh, Kelly Thomas, 

889
00:46:56,700 --> 00:47:01,200
Ashley Babbitt Margarita. 
Brooks Justine Daymond from the 

890
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Press, even when they are the 
victims of these atrocities 

891
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,500
here. 
So with that, how is it that we 

892
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,800
can stop this? 
Terrible unnecessary division 

893
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,500
among the Sexes and the races. 
Honestly, I did. 

894
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:20,900
One reason why I'm running for 
office, you know, I feel free to

895
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,500
actually say the truth and to 
say what I think about this 

896
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:25,600
stuff. 
I will call out the left for I 

897
00:47:25,607 --> 00:47:28,000
think fomenting all these fake 
divisions. 

898
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,100
Like I don't think there's an 
epidemic of police brutality in 

899
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:34,300
America. 
I think, you know, the police 

900
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:37,000
have a really hard job to do. 
Most do an extraordinarily. 

901
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,300
Well, sometimes things don't go 
right and we should, you know, 

902
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:43,000
look into that and discipline 
officers, but most good police 

903
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,900
departments already. 
Do you know? 

904
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,300
And and it's that doesn't Really
happen. 

905
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,100
And when it does happen, it 
doesn't happen across racial 

906
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,700
lines, you know, the left would 
have you think that police are 

907
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:56,100
out there hunting black people 
and that's just not the case. 

908
00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,100
It's just not the case. 
And so you have to have, I think

909
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Messengers who will actually 
stand up for the police and will

910
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:05,100
actually stand up for the rule 
of law, right? 

911
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:08,200
Applied neutrally without 
respect to people's, you know, 

912
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,000
race or gender or whatever and 
you actually have to have some 

913
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,800
discipline and look at the data.
You know, I find this. 

914
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:19,000
Gun control debate all the time.
I'm a big Second Amendment. 

915
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,500
Guy have a lot of guns. 
I'm running against Mark Kelly. 

916
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,400
Who's a gun Grabber, he wants to
take away people's AR-15s and 

917
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,200
there's only like 300 rifle, 
murders every year in America, 

918
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,900
and you can say that's 300 too 
many. 

919
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:34,800
And fair enough. 
Everyone's a tragedy, but in a 

920
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,500
nation of hundreds, and hundreds
of millions of people with 

921
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:39,200
hundreds of hundreds of millions
of guns. 

922
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,300
It's actually shockingly rare, 
right rifle murders. 

923
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:47,200
And so if you care about gun 
crime, fine, But it's all 

924
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,700
handguns and then there's two 
specific sub problems. 

925
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,100
One is mental health and 
suicide, which, you know, 

926
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:57,100
Republicans get made fun of 
every time a tragedy happens and

927
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:58,200
we say, well, that's mental 
health. 

928
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,500
That wasn't the gun. 
That was someone went psychotic,

929
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,500
and we should figure out like, 
what's causing that. 

930
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,700
But that's actually, you know, a
huge component of a firearm 

931
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:09,200
deaths from handguns. 
And then the second is, 

932
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,800
basically gang-related crime, 
right. 

933
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:16,400
And look at what's happening on 
the streets of Chicago. 

934
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,200
Is mostly young black men, 
killing mostly young black, men 

935
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:24,100
and Democrats appear not to care
about it at all. but if you 

936
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:30,000
controlled for gang-related 
crime and suicide, all of a 

937
00:49:30,008 --> 00:49:33,000
sudden the the gun violence 
problem goes away and there's 

938
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,300
something similar, you know, 
with how the left talks about 

939
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:38,600
police brutality. 
So got to run people who are 

940
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,100
unafraid to say the truth. 
And because that's the only way 

941
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,100
we're going to actually solve 
some of our problems, right? 

942
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:47,100
If we can actually agree on what
the problems are and you got to 

943
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:52,500
run people and encourage the 
population at large to push back

944
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,900
on that convenient. 
Bullet point that CNN wants to 

945
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:57,500
feed. 
You actually, look at the charts

946
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:00,400
that you just brought up. 
No, but how many people do that?

947
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,300
How many people feel safe doing 
that? 

948
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:05,200
What kind of government list do 
you get on by Googling for those

949
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,900
charts? 
And for how long will those 

950
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:08,600
parts be available? 
Like those are the questions. 

951
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,800
Unfortunately, I think we need 
to be asking ourselves today. 

952
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,000
So my attitude and what I 
learned from President Trump, 

953
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:17,900
you know, in 2016 and 
subsequently is just say the 

954
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:22,400
truth and see what happens. 
But I think that's the only way 

955
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,800
we get out of some of this slide
into madness that we're 

956
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
experiencing. 
Thank you to everyone for 

957
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,900
watching the libertarian 
Institute and Keith Knight. 

958
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,500
Don't tread on anyone. 
Mr. Masters. 

959
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,900
Thank you so much for your time,
sir, Keith great to see you. 

960
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Thank you.