1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,300 Welcome to the don't tread on anyone podcast today. 2 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:07,100 I am joined by Kalina, George? The, that Liberty chick. 3 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:09,500 Is that what your Instagram handle is? 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,500 Yes, yes it is. Yes, she has done. 5 00:00:12,700 --> 00:00:17,100 Excellent work as far as giving people the truth about the 6 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:20,000 vaccine dangers. Amazing people will admit that 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Pharmaceuticals kill people by the tens of thousands a year. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,900 Except this pharmaceutical gift that God has given us. 9 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:29,800 There's no side effects. There's no downside. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,600 I'd all 7 billion people should take the same amount. 11 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,400 Miss George where else can people find your work besides 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,500 Instagram, Instagram I'm on Twitter, I do have Rumble but I 13 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:47,000 hadn't been posting everything there and I am on Facebook but I 14 00:00:47,008 --> 00:00:51,300 haven't been using it either. I also should be getting YouTube 15 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:53,100 soon, but I don't have one up yet. 16 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:56,600 Sounds good. If you had to summarize why you 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,200 do not support the mises caucus. How would you do it? 18 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:02,600 Okay. I felt like I was being a little 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,800 gimmicky but the reason I didn't support the mises caucus anymore 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,300 is because they blocked me and because I felt like why. 21 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:10,600 Now, I don't know what they're saying. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,200 You know, I go to their website and I can see there obviously 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,000 their platform, but that doesn't like some of a political party, 24 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:19,200 you know, or like a political ideology at all. 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,900 And I'm not going to say, like, I don't agree with their 26 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:25,400 platform, I do. But I just felt like if I don't 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,300 know what they're telling everyone, how can I support 28 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:29,100 them? And then also, like, I 29 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:31,700 personally, I thought it was like a little authoritarian. 30 00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:38,400 I mean, there's that so and what jumped out to you as 31 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:42,700 authoritarian doesn't blocking dissenting voices, you know, 32 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:44,900 especially when you're within a political party. 33 00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:47,800 Because the thing is, is that, you know, we all see that with 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 like the CDC and stuff, like they go on, they block all the 35 00:01:51,008 --> 00:01:53,000 comments. Like at Louisiana Department of 36 00:01:53,008 --> 00:01:55,000 Health. Does it also here locally? 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,700 You can't even say anything to them. 38 00:01:57,700 --> 00:02:00,300 They just hand down stuff and then they Lock and, you know, 39 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:04,800 block all the commenting block, all the dissenting voices and I 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,600 felt like if you do that, when you're a political party and 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,900 then how if you do get elected, like, are you going to act the 42 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:14,200 same? Or are you going to be thinking, 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,400 that, that's how you deal with stuff, like, I'm all for. 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Like, we should just hash stuff out. 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,900 So that is generally a young good principle when it comes to 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,200 anything else, as far as social media who they have up front the 47 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:32,600 general message, Thing that they have anything in that realm that 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,000 you disagree with think is unproductive. 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,900 So actually like most of the platforms of mises cargos, I 50 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:44,200 think I agree with there's a couple that I might ask you to 51 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 like enlighten me on just a little bit because I'm not 100% 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,000 sure. Like I said, when I try to go to 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,200 look at their platform, I was like a little bit, you know, I 54 00:02:51,208 --> 00:02:53,000 can see some things, but not everything. 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,500 And then there's even certain platform ideas that they have 56 00:02:56,500 --> 00:03:00,500 that actually think align with me better than then like the 57 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:04,400 libertarian National platform that we have now but I wasn't 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,900 like for some reason. I I couldn't see all all of the 59 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:10,300 details. So as far as things I agree with 60 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:13,600 that, I think I agree with that. I wanted to ask you about one of 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,700 them is borders. Like, can you explain to me the 62 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:20,800 mises caucus stands on borders? Because I believe it's closer to 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,600 what I believe than what the official you know, libertarian 64 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,400 party's platform has been. So, two of the most popular 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,800 spokespeople Dave Smith and Spike. 66 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Owen Spike Owen was endorsed for vice president by the mises 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,900 cock, In 2020. This is something that they 68 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:41,600 vehement Lee disagree on. So they welcomed people who 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,800 believe in whatever border policy. 70 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:49,300 Dave Smith says, when large amounts of property is owned by 71 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:53,300 the state anyone coming in necessarily aggresses against 72 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:56,900 everyone else because they are able to reap the benefits of 73 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:01,100 things like public transit. Use for the roads Spike Owen 74 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:04,200 says, for the same reason, we should be able to walk freely 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 between cities states. It's and counties people should 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,800 be able to move between countries. 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Dave, says one of or rather Murray rothbard said open 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,300 border. Immigration is one of the 79 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:17,200 tactics. The Soviets used against people 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:23,000 in Estonia when they wanted to sort of decrease the amount of 81 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:26,100 cultural passion with in Estonia. 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,700 So if there's only a stone Ian's well, they control 100% of 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,900 Estonia but if a million more Bolsheviks come in and then 10 84 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:37,400 million, Our well then those people don't have as much power 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,500 so they saw it as a way to increase the amount of socialism 86 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:44,300 in society. So both of those positions are 87 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:48,900 welcome in the mises caucus. Yeah, and I tend to agree more 88 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:51,700 with. I guess Dave's opinion just 89 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:54,600 because I see it as like you can't actually have an open 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,600 border. You can only have a unilateral 91 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:01,200 unidirectional open border that allows people in you you can 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,900 only say like we don't really know where our country, you 93 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:06,800 know. Where it starts but we 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,900 definitely know where it ends because it borders another 95 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:10,400 country and they make their own decisions. 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,600 So I don't think that it's beneficial to have an open 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:19,200 border policy and it seems like the Dave Smith ideology lines a 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,400 little bit more with that. So what issues are most 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,600 important to you? So the most important issue to 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,900 me is bodily autonomy and health freedom. 101 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:29,600 I think that that is so important. 102 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:32,900 I mean, obviously just right up there with that is like our 103 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:38,300 right to, you know, To work, which was attacked, like, when 104 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:40,800 during lockdowns, like our rights, you live our lives. 105 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,700 Basically, you know, not bothered by the government. 106 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:47,600 I don't think that they should be able to, you know, tell us we 107 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:52,400 we can't go to work and do different things like that and 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,300 that would be those are most of the issues that are most 109 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:58,600 important to me. Bodily autonomy is the big one 110 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,800 not forcing people to take vaccines product stuff like 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,800 that. Very very important to Me there. 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,100 So if people want to find out the truth about vaccines, which 113 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:13,700 is so often censored, where can they go? 114 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:14,900 Is there something they could read? 115 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:19,700 I saw you have a JFK document that I am meaning to read on 116 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:22,800 your link tree. Is there a vaccine link? 117 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:24,400 You would send people to? Yeah. 118 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Actually I think below that is as long as I don't have it off 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,800 which if I do I can switch it right back on but there should 120 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,000 be a really good article on there for about Aluminum in the 121 00:06:36,008 --> 00:06:42,000 brains of people with Autism and aluminum is a very major, you 122 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,200 know, component of a lot of vaccines. 123 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:48,300 They use it actually to elicit the immune response. 124 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:52,100 It's not like the Mercury that they complained about in the 125 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:56,600 past, which is a small amounts used as like a preservative. 126 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,900 This is actually large amounts of aluminum used to elicit, an 127 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:02,200 immune response and an antibody response. 128 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,500 That's how a lot of these vaccines work and It causes so 129 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:10,800 many problems, it can cause autoimmune issues like asthma. 130 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Eczema. Type 1 diabetes, autism. 131 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,800 A lot of people say, you know, ADHD room charged a juvenile 132 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,300 rheumatoid arthritis, different inflammatory diseases. 133 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:23,900 I don't know if I said allergies but like allergies anaphylactic, 134 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:28,400 allergies things like that. So if you are curious about 135 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,600 vaccines, if you there's like three places that I like to 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,500 point people because I don't, you know, I don't go through and 137 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:36,700 do all the research It's myself and everything. 138 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:38,800 I don't put out articles on that, although it's not a 139 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,500 question of future. But there are three places that 140 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:44,800 do really, really good work. And that is Children's Health 141 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,800 depends, which is 1 by RF K Jr. The high wire which is by Dell 142 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Dell, big tree, his organization and they also have informed 143 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,300 consent Action Network that they work with to, like, do I guess. 144 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:02,600 It's like political action and then also defending people and 145 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,200 things like that. And then the Third Place that 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,700 you can look is positions for informed consent and they have a 147 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:14,100 lot of information on the actual vaccine components and stuff 148 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,300 like on their website and that's positions that have put that 149 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:19,800 information out there. So awesome. 150 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,100 So what I want to do is give my general Steel Man of why you and 151 00:08:25,100 --> 00:08:28,300 everyone else should support the lp MC. 152 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:33,100 Should only be a minute or so I want to start with the 153 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:36,500 libertarian party platform. They We oppose all acts of 154 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:40,400 aggression as illegitimate and unjust whether committed by 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,500 private actors or the state. I want to get back to that. 156 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:47,700 First thing that I want to share is tackling paid patriotism a 157 00:08:47,708 --> 00:08:51,600 joint oversight report by us, Senator, John McCain, and Jeff 158 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Flake. This is an analysis that 159 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,300 verifiably proves that the federal government pays people 160 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:01,200 like the National Football League, Major League Baseball, 161 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:04,700 National Basketball Association, National Hockey League National 162 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:07,400 Soccer. League and NASCAR in order for 163 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,600 those organizations to put things like police and military 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,500 support front and center. Second, we have from defense.gov 165 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,300 how and why the dod works with Hollywood. 166 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:24,000 It is explicit. Now, why would the government 167 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,800 who already controls the military? 168 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:28,200 Be wasting time and money on things? 169 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,300 Like selling people on patriotism in games and in 170 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,800 movies? Well, the reason is is because 171 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:39,200 Rolling public opinion, is the central theme in what? 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Gives States their power. If no one in any random Society, 173 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,400 whatever thing to start worshipping, Joe Biden or 174 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,700 obeying his arbitrary commands. So what we need to do is combat 175 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:55,800 people on this ground in changing public opinion. 176 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,100 I think you said it best. You said personally I think it's 177 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:01,400 all marketing with proper marketing libertarianism is 178 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,800 unbeatable and most aligns with the principles of the Founders, 179 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:10,300 I want to argue that the lp MC is doing the best job at 180 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:14,400 marketing libertarianism first. We have Dave Smith on places 181 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,600 like your mom's house Studios with someone like dr. 182 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,900 Drew, we have him also on the Megyn Kelly show, we also have 183 00:10:22,900 --> 00:10:26,300 them on Glenn Beck. He's been on Tim cast, along 184 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:29,500 with Maj Torre, talking about gun rights to the left. 185 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:33,900 He goes to people like Jimmy Dore, and most importantly, he 186 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:37,100 gets on the Joe Rogan. Ian experience, discussing the 187 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,600 war in Yemen were three million people watch. 188 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,900 Why Russia invaded Ukraine? And the truth behind that, he 189 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,800 discusses vaccine passports. In front of 1.6 million. 190 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,900 People used to be us just screaming at ourselves in the 191 00:10:50,908 --> 00:10:53,200 living room. And now he's on these platforms 192 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,900 and the military industrial complex and CNN I think the L 193 00:10:56,900 --> 00:11:01,100 pmc's doing an excellent job. Here's an example of when Dave 194 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:05,700 was a CNN employee, talking about the police, Rachel. 195 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:07,800 If you let Dave respond, and then I've got one more question 196 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,900 for you proceed to go every Sunday. 197 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:10,800 I was kind of funny, but I'm also dead serious. 198 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,100 And I think the scene, which I think is, how did you feel about 199 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:14,800 stop and frisk program? So you're not gonna blame any of 200 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,100 the people who are actually enforcing these rules that 201 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:17,700 you're completely just how you feel about the war on drugs. 202 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:19,000 And you feel that same people who are going around. 203 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Taking bribes to give you a gun, permits putting people in jail 204 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,100 for decades for having me. In fact, we took legislative 205 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:28,500 action against it, when I was in the city council you don't 206 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:32,300 attack the police department in the city of New York. 207 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,700 The intellect that we are blessed with when Dave gets in 208 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:49,000 front of audiences and uses the power of the lp MC to get 209 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,800 involved in politics and talk to people where they are final bit 210 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,900 of evidence. Here is from the Independent. 211 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:57,100 This woman says, I went to a right-wing libertarian 212 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,600 conference. As a socialist, I was pleasantly 213 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,600 surprised by what I found. This was the Yale conference in 214 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,900 Florida. She said to put it Plea of CPAC, 215 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:09,100 showed the country. How a far right that should 216 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:11,900 terrify us all irrespective of party. 217 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,600 Yeah. Showed the left a right we can 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,200 work with. We are Libertarians because we 219 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,000 love Liberty and Aiden Justice comedian. 220 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,100 Dave Smith said in remarks on the opening night, the reason we 221 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:25,700 are Libertarians is because governments, destroy innocent 222 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:28,300 people's lives. And we hate that Smith went on 223 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:32,100 to speak against the Patriot Act and imperialist War such as Iraq 224 00:12:32,100 --> 00:12:34,900 and Afghanistan. And in favor of civil liberties, 225 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,100 Tease the exact three issues, which motivated me to get 226 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:42,100 involved in left-leaning politics in the early 2000s. 227 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,600 So whenever you are analyzing something like the LPN, see, you 228 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,500 have to compare it. But one to the ideal, what 229 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:53,200 everything could be. And second compared to where the 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,000 party previously was here, is someone jokingly saying that 231 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,500 solinsky came to America and stole a bunch of money because 232 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:03,700 the taxpayers are funding him, the former chair nixar work, 233 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:07,300 commented and said, He gave a very good speech to the 234 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:11,200 Congress. I would be proud to have him as 235 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,600 my president. This is Vladimir zielinski. 236 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,400 Whose mother I'm sorry. Yeah. 237 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,500 No, of course. So this is Vladimir zielinski 238 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:25,500 who was murdered civilians in the donbas, continuing Petro 239 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:29,300 poroshenko's policy before Russia, invaded on February 240 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:31,900 24th. He mandated that people not be 241 00:13:31,900 --> 00:13:34,400 able to leave Ukraine during the war and instituted. 242 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Option for all men, 18 to 60 confiscated Russian, Orthodox 243 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,300 property and band, 11, political parties, on March 20th. 244 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:47,100 That is where we came from. That is how much of an 245 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:51,200 improvement, the lp MC is, and why, I think we should be very 246 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,500 appreciative LP, MC understands. That the problem is not that 247 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:59,000 there are people who have power in any society. 248 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,400 People are going to have power. The problem is the state having 249 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,100 a monopoly on the, on this power. 250 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,900 So the answer This Monopoly is competition in the form of 251 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:11,500 localization. All these groups competing and 252 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:15,500 being a true check and balance to the authority of the state. 253 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:18,700 So, you shared a video where you said, Nick's our work here is 254 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,400 making some good points. I want to go through this, let 255 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,800 me, let me stop you for a second because Clinton are already went 256 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,800 over. This literally, the only reason 257 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,300 that I shared that video was because when I said that I was 258 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:38,100 critical of me some caucus What a Clint said in quotes laughs 259 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:42,100 and start work and then a lot of people, you know, and I said 260 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:44,400 everyone hates this guy. I don't really know anything 261 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,500 about him. I want to learn a little bit 262 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:48,600 more. I wouldn't mind interviewing 263 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,200 him, right? And understanding from both 264 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,700 sides, like what's going on and people tagged this video like I 265 00:14:55,708 --> 00:14:59,500 didn't seek out this video and just throw it up you know which 266 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:02,600 is kind of like what then people later tried to make it seem like 267 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,300 they tagged this video and asked me to Watch it. 268 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:06,900 So I said I'm going to do a reaction. 269 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,000 I always give honest feedback based on what I'm seeing or my 270 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 interactions with the person. I'm not going to just say like 271 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,500 oh everyone tells me, this person is a good guy or a bad 272 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:20,500 guy and listen to it. Like I'm going to make my own 273 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:23,700 judgments and so that was a video they provide it for me a 274 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:26,600 lot of people were taking the points you made out of context 275 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:30,100 in my opinion. And to me those parts did not 276 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:32,900 sound like what was being presented like things all that 277 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:38,600 bad now obviously The solinsky quote that you just said I would 278 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,600 feel totally differently about but that's more blatant than 279 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,800 like what they were trying to say was in this video versus 280 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,400 like what he actually said. So okay advocate of course, 281 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,500 thank you for clarifying. Well everything I say and nicks 282 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:56,300 are Works a former friend of mine. 283 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:59,300 So I I think you should have him on your show. 284 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:03,000 He was on my show, it would be a good discussion. 285 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,700 So here are things, that's our work said that. 286 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:08,400 I We agree with. You said we are different and we 287 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,300 often live in a bubble. We don't talk to people who are 288 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:13,500 not like us. We need to run candidates who 289 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:16,300 can appeal to Americans who can appeal to New Yorkers, who can 290 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:19,600 appeal to arizonans, neighbors, co-workers, and your friends. 291 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:23,200 When it comes to, who can do that, Nick's our work had the 292 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,200 chair longer than anyone else, and he did not do that. 293 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:29,600 Dave Smith is doing it on Joe Rogan on Tim cast, on the left, 294 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,800 he's going to the Jimmy Dore show. 295 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,300 A socialist went to see Dave Smith speak and was pleasantly 296 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,100 surprised. Sighs. 297 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:37,900 So surprised that she actually admitted it and put it in the 298 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:40,300 independent, that's the true change. 299 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:43,400 In general public opinion. That the meat is caucus is a 300 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,100 bringing about that a question. Do you think that Dave will pull 301 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:51,400 better than the candidates that he ran just asking? 302 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Like, do you think that he's going to actually pull more 303 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,500 votes? Like what do you think? 304 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,300 Let's give a prediction now. Do you know what, the other the 305 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,900 last ones got, and then we'll give a prediction I do 306 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Jorgensen. No, let me pull that out. 307 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:08,000 Maybe like 1.5 or something? I don't know. 308 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:15,300 Jorgensen about um, yeah, I don't have those numbers of 309 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:17,099 hand. Oh gosh. 310 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:21,500 It's not even giving it to me. Well, let's say it's 10 million 311 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,200 on the high end. Dave Smith will get more votes 312 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,900 than Joe Jorgensen and Gary Johnson and probably the highest 313 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:36,300 percentage chance Harry Brown. That's my estimate but still But 314 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:38,300 still it's so low that it's not winning. 315 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:41,600 That's why the mises caucus. I think is correct to focus on 316 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,600 local elections because those are the, as someone once said, 317 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,300 without police to enforce the edicts of the CDC and the ruling 318 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:55,800 class, they're basically just opinions that they write on 319 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,800 paper that don't have any power to enforce. 320 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,700 So that is my general justification for why people 321 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:08,100 should support the mises caucus. What am I missing if No. 322 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:12,200 I mean I think it's fine but I like I said, I only was saying 323 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,400 that I can all support them because I don't know what they 324 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,900 say, any more on Twitter. I don't know what they're out 325 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:18,700 there saying because they did block me. 326 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:24,000 Now, I'm not alone, there's like 70 people that had chimed in or 327 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,100 they have some group or something of other Libertarians 328 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:32,700 blocked by mises Pockets. So it's not, it's not just a one 329 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:35,000 thing, like I'm so bad, that's why they blocked me. 330 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,600 And so my issue with that is like, we need to be able to 331 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,900 discuss and have like civil discourse in order to have 332 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:45,500 things move forward. My only concern with the mises 333 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:50,100 caucus is I think they're so glad that they got Empower, you 334 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:52,200 know, basically that they installed the people that they 335 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,500 want. And they feel like they can get 336 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,100 things done that. Now, they're very concerned 337 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:59,200 about anyone coming against them and what that could mean? 338 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,400 I think it's just what happens, like, okay. 339 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,100 Say I stole someone's husband, you know, not saying that. 340 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:09,700 They stole their position, but let's say I met someone and then 341 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,900 that person marries me, I'm always gonna feel like, oh, I 342 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:15,100 kind of like snag you from that other person. 343 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:18,100 Like could you be smacked back? So I think that they have a 344 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:21,500 little bit of what's it called. Like when you're just like a 345 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:24,500 little bit insecure and they don't want to be criticized 346 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:26,800 right now, and I think that that's the wrong thing to do. 347 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,100 I think this now is the time to hear everyone's voice and say, 348 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,500 we're not like the past. We're going to take your voice 349 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,700 into account. If you have grievances, we're 350 00:19:34,700 --> 00:19:36,000 going to talk. Talk to you and I'm not saying 351 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,900 my guys did talk to me and he did do that, that's why I was so 352 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:45,300 surprised when the mises caucus blocked me afterwards, Clint 353 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:47,000 kind of enlightened me a little bit. 354 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,700 It was because something I tagged the Ellen see in not them 355 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:53,700 specifically but because the overlap is so great and they 356 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,500 probably I don't know if they even can block me from the LMC 357 00:19:56,500 --> 00:20:01,200 page if that's even allowed. But so because of that I guess 358 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,800 they blocked me from the mises caucus page so that's the whole 359 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,300 story there. There was Not too much fanciness 360 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:07,800 to. It wasn't necessarily like a 361 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,400 disagreement on their platforms. Like I said, it's more just the 362 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,500 execution of it. Like, how can I know that 363 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,200 they're going to be open to dialogue? 364 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,700 How can I even know what they're out there saying like that's 365 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:22,000 basically it. One thing we can do is go to the 366 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,300 website, where present? I got it right here. 367 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,100 Have you checked this out? Yes, I went to their platform 368 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:29,000 and that's what I was telling you. 369 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,700 I didn't think there was necessarily like a ton of 370 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:35,500 details, you know? Okay. 371 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,800 Yeah. And I have knocked out a look at 372 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,600 this. When it comes to something like 373 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,800 lockdowns is their top priority, usually a good indicator as to 374 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,700 whether you think someone's an ally is to see what they're 375 00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:49,700 really really passionate about. And lockdowns are the first 376 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:53,200 thing because that was one of the greatest autonomy of 377 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,500 violations that we've seen that were not used to, of course the 378 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,800 mass murdering bores are far worse but it's something new 379 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,800 that people were grabbing onto. So the fact that they're 380 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,000 prioritizing that would, After change your mind and increase 381 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,700 the likelihood that you support them. 382 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,300 Well, I mean it's not that I don't support them but like I 383 00:21:11,308 --> 00:21:14,400 said, I don't, I don't disagree with our platforms. 384 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,700 They just blocked me on Twitter. So I just don't like I said, 385 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,500 every little thing that they're saying I wouldn't even know what 386 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:23,100 it is. You know, they obviously are mad 387 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:24,900 at me and don't want to have an affiliation. 388 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:27,700 So I don't know how I'm supposed to support that. 389 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:31,200 I mean, other than sending them some money and joining the 390 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:37,300 caucus like Did you get an explanation from Clint? 391 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:39,900 I haven't reached out to us. See what the justification. 392 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:40,600 What up. I got. 393 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,600 No clue. But I would hate to think that 394 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,500 one person was in there. It was because I like I said, 395 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:48,000 but I don't think he doesn't have an official role or 396 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,900 anything. But he was saying that it was 397 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:55,400 probably because of it thing that I tagged the Talon see in 398 00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:58,400 and that the mises Congress in like that. 399 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,300 So and what was that? I heard you mentioned. 400 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:03,500 That there was an article, I have no clue what this article. 401 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:09,500 The Killer. And somebody have reassured it 402 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:12,500 and said mrs. Caucus is this one of your 403 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:16,900 people or whatever. And so I reshard it and I said 404 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:20,600 if I said libertarian National Committee or whatever if you 405 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,700 don't choose you know, your influencers just because people 406 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,000 have been making fun of me saying that I only want to help 407 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,200 because I want to be an influencer and all this stuff. 408 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,700 I was like, no, like I can build my own platform. 409 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:35,300 I want to actually help y'all not get anything from y'all. 410 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:39,400 And so I said, if you don't choose Only influencers, your 411 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:45,100 influencers choose you which is maybe bitchy but also accurate 412 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,300 and that's something that people. 413 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:49,400 If you run a business anything like that, you have to know if 414 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,500 you don't put out a good enough face for the public, you know, 415 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:55,200 they not the whole public knows who date's Smith is not, the 416 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,600 whole public knows who Spike Owen is and how intelligent he 417 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,600 is, you know? But they probably did see that 418 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,500 mainstream media article and that's where I'm saying like you 419 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:07,700 have to really come at it from all angles and especially 420 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,100 Different demographics. You know, and Dave Smith and 421 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:13,700 Spike Owen, especially despite calling, I'm just going to say I 422 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:17,500 favor him a lot because although I disagree on the border policy, 423 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,600 I think he's extremely while spoken extremely intelligent and 424 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,900 I see him as somebody that could appeal to a very, very wide wide 425 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:33,000 base of Voters. So I really think that he's, you 426 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,100 know, would be a fantastic candidate for anything but What 427 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:40,400 I was saying is that a lot of people don't know who they are 428 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,100 and so they see that article and then they're going to think 429 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:46,800 libertarian. So if you have more people and 430 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,500 you are trying to appeal, you know not not, okay? 431 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:53,300 So appealing to different demographics. 432 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:55,800 Doesn't mean that you're changing your message. 433 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,600 I've proven this by the fact that my message is a Libertarian 434 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,600 message and it appeals to health Freedom, Mom's, okay. 435 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,100 They don't know that they have libertarian feelings that they 436 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,700 could be a Libertarian holding know it. 437 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,500 Is that all the things that I say, all the time, you know, 438 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,600 align with them, and they love it. 439 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,700 And so they look different. They talk different, they act 440 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:20,400 different. The principles are the same 441 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,900 though. So my point is that, if you 442 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:27,400 don't have people showing those people, what a Libertarian is 443 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,400 getting them excited about it, showing them that that's, you 444 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,900 know, the party. Welcome welcoming them to the 445 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:34,200 party. Then they're going to see that 446 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,300 mainstream media article and they're going to think even 447 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,800 though they don't do they make, I can be Connecting how much 448 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,300 they love the libertarian ideals. 449 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:43,100 They're just seeing this person's libertarian yet, you 450 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,100 know? So that was my only point there 451 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:51,000 snarky snarky for sure but Okay yeah let's Market but we can put 452 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,300 that aside but small deal in in the long run the reason I think 453 00:24:55,300 --> 00:25:00,200 that your metric of us becoming better marketers is met when it 454 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,100 comes to Dave Smith and the mises caucuses because Joe Rogan 455 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:08,200 and Tim pool people on the right generally that they have more 456 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800 right audiences and people on the left like this socialist and 457 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Jimmy Dore are able to have him on and have very respectful 458 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,200 conversations. I think that does a heck of a 459 00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:19,300 lot more. In one murderer, who was 460 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,500 registered. I wonder if any of the other 461 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,600 serial killers are murderers. Have been Democrats or 462 00:25:23,608 --> 00:25:25,900 Republicans yet or anyone has started. 463 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,000 Any of these wars have been Democrats or Republicans. 464 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Yeah, this is the isolated incident and they're only their 465 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,600 only argument against it is it was really wrong of this guy to 466 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,500 initiate violence against peaceful people. 467 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:41,900 Well, that is the central theme of libertarianism, so I still 468 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,000 think that when it comes to good marketing, LPM see is as good as 469 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,100 we have and we should support them immediately. 470 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,500 The media will always Is do that, that's not the point. 471 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,200 The point is that you have to be better than the media because 472 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,500 the media will take anything that you have and try to drag 473 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:57,500 you with it. And that's why you have to be so 474 00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,500 much better. And I'm not saying that Dave 475 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:03,800 Smith isn't doing a good job and that, you know, Spike isn't 476 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,400 doing a good job. But what I am saying is that the 477 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,900 metric for saying, if we're doing well, enough is how many 478 00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:12,400 numbers we grow? How many voters are growing? 479 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,800 How many, you know, like votes we get in this next election, is 480 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,300 it? More. 481 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,200 That's that's the metric. You know. 482 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,800 So we can say that we think we're doing a good job but in 483 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000 the reality the voters speak and tell us if we're doing a great 484 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,100 job and we're going to see what they say, you know, certainly so 485 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:33,300 when it comes to really effective speakers, I'm trying 486 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:36,000 to think of, if we could come up with a really good example of 487 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,000 someone we have and or of someone out there who isn't on 488 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,400 our side, who would like to emulate the person that comes to 489 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,700 mind for me is Bill Clinton. I think he is the greatest most 490 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:48,700 persuasive speaker. I've probably ever For scene. 491 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,100 It's on his, I think his Charisma is off the charts, he's 492 00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,800 evil, but we need a Bill Clinton. 493 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,400 So who is an example of someone that we should emulate as far as 494 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600 tactics presentation and appearance goes. 495 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:06,800 Okay, you know you're saying visually about also well but as 496 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,500 far as someone we could look at to say that's who we need to be 497 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,100 more like is it Ron Paul? So if Dave Smith and Spike Owen 498 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:17,900 is not good enough, who was an example of an influencer that we 499 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:19,300 could? Look to and admire and learn 500 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:21,100 from. That wasn't my point. 501 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:24,100 I think you missed my point and I'm not saying that Dave Smith 502 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,100 and Spike Owen aren't good enough. 503 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,900 That wasn't my point. My point was is that the 504 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:33,200 candidates are not the only people that bring people to the 505 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,800 party like not everyone is just going to see Spike Owen on a 506 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,400 certain podcast because they might not watch that podcast. 507 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,200 So there are other people out there that bring people to a 508 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,200 movement and like, okay for instance I went to see you I'm 509 00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:51,700 Paul speak and he had he was without big tree and I think Del 510 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:55,100 victories kind of like I don't know if he's a Libertarian and 511 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,200 he just says he's kind of libertarian and stuff, but 512 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,000 that's something we could really work with, you know, like he is 513 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,700 has a huge Niche and a huge influence over his audience and 514 00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:07,300 the fact that he aligns with the libertarian, you know, 515 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:11,100 libertarian like Ron Paul or libertarian ideas that were on, 516 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:16,100 Paul has the fact that he does that means that he will his back 517 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,500 and appeal to his audience that is millions of Of people big and 518 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:23,100 that's something for us to really try to gravitate towards, 519 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,200 you know. And like I said, when I was 520 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,400 talking to Clint, I thought it was a little funny and I know 521 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,400 that there were elections so this could have been like 522 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:37,100 unavoidable entirely but Ellen see had its own its own event 523 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,400 like the same day in Austin. Like only a few hours away when 524 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,700 I just felt like why wouldn't you want to try to gravitate 525 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:48,700 towards that that type of speaker and Something that's 526 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,700 already happening, you know, but the so. 527 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,800 So during the Ron Paul event, there was an LLC event hours 528 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,800 away. Yes. 529 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,900 Yeah. The single day. 530 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,000 Yeah, went wrong, was that? That was I went November 4th I 531 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,600 think or November 4th or 6th and then I was getting like 532 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800 notifications to I'm like, oh there's like an Ellen. 533 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,600 See, I don't know what it was. I'm just saying. 534 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,600 It might have had to do with election so could have been 535 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000 unavoidable but it was the same day like in Austin. 536 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,400 So I was like, that would really split where people can go 537 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,200 because They might want to go see Ron Paul ciudad Del big tree 538 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,600 but then they have to go to the Ellen. 539 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,900 See event or like the opposite. That's all I'm saying. 540 00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:28,300 They're too much. Yeah well that certainly was a 541 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:34,000 tactic of the previous lnc during the Tom would speech in I 542 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,100 believe it was Reno or Texas. Nick's our work had Edward 543 00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:43,300 Snowden at the exact same time that is one of their classic 544 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:45,000 things. I certainly hope that this was 545 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800 just an accident because that shouldn't happen again. 546 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,200 It was a Classics, our work. Move another reason. 547 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400 He is a former friend. Again, I'm just saying, like, 548 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000 like I said, I think elections were like the next week, so it 549 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,300 could have been unavoidable. But I'm like, you would think 550 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,500 and you never know, like, maybe the rampal event because I don't 551 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,500 think I registered that long ahead of it. 552 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,700 So could have just popped up after they hurt, already had it 553 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:08,800 planned. But my point is that that would 554 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,800 have been like a huge thing to try to, you know, or recreate, 555 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,700 you know, even in the future because that is such a health 556 00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:18,700 big Health, Freedom voice and there's Lots of people like 557 00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:22,200 that, you know, I hear a like, I listen to 80% this podcast and I 558 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,700 hear him sound very libertarian and almost say like, you know, 559 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:27,700 but he isn't necessarily say he's libertarian. 560 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:31,300 But you know, it's like you hear these people and you're like, I 561 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,800 just I feel like these are the people we need to gravitate 562 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,600 towards because they have big audiences like if they were 563 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:44,900 shown support and you know, like from the party that we could try 564 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,900 to like work with them, you know, bigger voices like that. 565 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,000 So yeah, and I'm totally open to working with anyone. 566 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,500 Is there something that LP MC does that indicates? 567 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,300 They won't work with other. Dave Smith will go on anyone's 568 00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:04,300 show, you know? I mean, he doesn't discriminate 569 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:07,200 on that basis or anything. I, I agree. 570 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,400 We should be talking to everyone. 571 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:11,200 I see Dave Smith do that. Convincing socialists and 572 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,000 conservatives that were right on the biggest platforms. 573 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,900 And so, I think that that is being done or you're saying more 574 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,700 people need to do that. That's the problem. 575 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,000 I guess you're seeing it differently than I am. 576 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400 I'm, I wasn't thinking of like going on, people shows. 577 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000 I was thinking more of like, you know, when you're marketing to 578 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,600 somebody like sometimes you want to have like, you know, people 579 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,900 reach out like oh we've heard you say that you're a 580 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,100 Libertarian like how can we support you we you know more 581 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,800 from that aspect, how can we support you like do you want to 582 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,300 learn more about the libertarian party like we would love to have 583 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:43,900 you? We'd love to sit down like maybe 584 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,300 we could bring you to dinner and talk to you about how we're 585 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:47,800 trying to change the world like things like that. 586 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,400 That's How I see marketing not like necessarily just going on 587 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,900 someone show and trying to convince them like trying to 588 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:57,900 like cultivate a relationship and yeah. 589 00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,100 But I do have to go in a minute. Sure. 590 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:02,300 Sure. And you know what that is. 591 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,100 That'd be a great place to end it. 592 00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:07,000 You ever General. Criticism is LP MC needs to do a 593 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,400 better job at generating personal relationships, not just 594 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,700 going on podcast. That will do more to change 595 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:17,100 Minds then getting on robe that. That's an example. 596 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,300 Get off. And I think that, okay, so like, 597 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:27,000 say I'm on Instagram and there's like these Wellness box mom's 598 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,100 that sell the wellness box and they all their amazing at 599 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,200 follow-up and conversion. Suddenly not me like I never 600 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,100 joined it but almost every other mom that thinks about patriotism 601 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,900 that thinks about America that cares about is a wellness box, 602 00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:43,200 Mom. I'm like, if imagine if we did 603 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,700 this with libertarianism like if we sold libertarianism like they 604 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:50,000 do like, hey, I love your stuff like, oh yeah. 605 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,700 Do you want to come to a meeting like stuff like that, but it 606 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:55,400 also has to be welcoming like when they show up like everyone 607 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,900 can't call him a fed, you know, like oh why do you have 50,000 608 00:32:58,900 --> 00:32:59,800 followers? Are you a Fed? 609 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Like, no one needs to hear that? They're not gonna want to come? 610 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,300 So that's my other point. There is like, we just we 611 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,700 actually need to be welcoming and stop like acting kind of 612 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:09,400 like not that you do. I'm not saying you do you seem 613 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,600 very professional and, like, a great like you put out a very 614 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,900 good presents for the party but not everyone does and sometimes 615 00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:20,100 that can be alienating. So, It can certainly be 616 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:23,900 difficult. I want to end with your area of 617 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:25,600 expertise when it comes to Fitness. 618 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,700 We often talk about the Federal Reserve can control the Federal 619 00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:31,500 Reserve, we can control our fitness and make our lives 620 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,300 better in the Here. And Now what is a one or 621 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:37,000 two-minute pitch that if you had just had people's attention that 622 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,800 they need to know about eating, right? 623 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,900 Or exercising to improve their lives. 624 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,500 Okay, this is a great. Just keep it simple. 625 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,300 Do not fall for fad diets. Like you don't need to do that. 626 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,100 Like Like the healthiest thing you know unless you have 627 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,700 something special going on that's like you know your doctor 628 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,100 or nutrition or something needs to help you with typically 629 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,800 you're going to want to eat balanced. 630 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000 You know, your body needs carved, your body needs fat, 631 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,500 your body needs proteins. Like, you don't want to, unless 632 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,300 you have certain intolerances really necessarily think about, 633 00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:07,900 like, oh, I'm gonna go totally carnivore or something like 634 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:09,199 that. You know, in this is very 635 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:14,300 special scenarios, you know, I guess but basically like try to 636 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,800 keep it simple, you know, keep moving. 637 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,300 Don't don't I think like I'm a start on Monday. 638 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:22,100 Like if you're thinking like I need to eat better, just start 639 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,500 right now. You know go to the store and get 640 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,199 something better like toss the cookies or whatever. 641 00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:29,400 Same thing with like I don't know, sometimes I'll say I'm not 642 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,699 going to drink alcohol, you know for a while but I don't say like 643 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,300 I'm a start next month after my birthday or something. 644 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,699 I'm like I'm a start now because like I did that a few months ago 645 00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,100 when I do I can even told you what day I started and that's 646 00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,699 the most effective thing to do. So start right away and then 647 00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:47,300 also listen to the book Relentless by Tim Grover, I talk 648 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:49,000 all My clients to listen to this book. 649 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,400 It's absolutely amazing. They love it everyone fawns over 650 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000 it, like listen to the book. So that's all. 651 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:56,400 Thanks everyone for watching. Keith Knight, don't tread on 652 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,400 anyone Kalina George. Thanks so much for your time. 653 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,600 Bye bye. Thank you.