1 00:00:01,100 --> 00:00:03,700 Interventionism is not only a moral and aggressive. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,300 It doesn't work. We must regain Liberty at home 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:09,300 and all interventions in other countries and returned to the 4 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:11,700 historic. Forgotten foreign policy of 5 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:14,700 serving, as an example, and Beacon, Light of Liberty to the 6 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,700 rest of the suffering and strife-torn World. 7 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:19,400 Welcome to Keith's night. Don't try to on anyone today. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,100 We have Scott Horton of the libertarian Institute and 9 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:25,500 anti-war.com Scott. Thank you for your time. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,500 Hey, man, happy to be here as always. 11 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:28,500 Keith. How are you doing, buddy? 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,800 I'm doing excellent. And I was reading Obama's book. 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,300 Let's get through it. Starting with Afghanistan. 14 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:38,600 Wait, check it out. Oh, I just got, I just got 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,300 proofs in the mail today. See not for resale. 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,300 That's that the brand new edit version for me to look through 17 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:46,900 here. I didn't know, we were making 18 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:49,000 the announcement yet, terrific enough already. 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,000 I'm hoping to publish on the 16th, but I probably will not 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,600 make that deadline but I'm trying, I'm working real hard on 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,200 it now. And as are a lot of other people 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,000 helping me with the copy editing and everything. 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,300 Terrific can't wait to have you back on for that one. 24 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:05,800 So enough already is the title coming out very soon. 25 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:12,200 Starting with Obama, a promised land page for Hub or sorry. 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,800 I'm just laughing at that cover. Oh, what a nice man. 27 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:19,200 Yeah, he's smart. They caught him smiling. 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,300 What are the chances? Okay, page for 40 Afghanistan, 29 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:25,900 six days. Earlier, 300 Afghan militants. 30 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:30,500 Had overrun a small US military Outpost in the Hindu Kush 31 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:35,000 killing eight of our soldiers and wounding wounding 27, more 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 October would become the deadliest month for US troops in 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,900 Afghanistan since the start of the war eight years earlier. 34 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:43,600 And rather than ushering in a new era of peace. 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,500 I was facing the prospect of committing more soldiers to war. 36 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:50,400 Unfortunately, the previous president. 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,800 He makes clear, could have gotten Afghanistan taken care 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,900 of, but he was distracted with Iraq. 39 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:58,900 Afghanistan is a place. We need to be for. 40 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:02,100 Security purposes. And to make sure the Karzai 41 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:05,500 government was stable. Therefore Obama's foreign policy 42 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:08,199 of sending more troops to Afghanistan was justified. 43 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:11,100 How do you respond? Well, he knows it. 44 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:13,700 He's lying when he writes that garbage. 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,100 The war was lost before he was ever sworn in and he knew it and 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:25,600 he ran on, you know, exactly as you said that narrative. 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 That well, see, Bush got distracted. 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,000 And diverted. All of our resources off to 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,200 Iraq. And if he hadn't done that, then 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,100 the war in Afghanistan would have gone great. 51 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:38,700 So now to correct that error, we're going to escalate the war. 52 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:41,600 However as really just a BS narrative. 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,400 He was only going to send a couple of brigades and then 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,100 bring them home in another couple of years. 55 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:50,500 Basically as a Democrat politician might, but then he 56 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:54,600 got in there and once he got in there, came the full-court Press 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,300 from the Pentagon, that what you're going to do is you're 58 00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:59,200 going to give a 60 thousand more troops. 59 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:00,900 Really? I know being 70 thousand more 60 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:02,200 troops. He ended up giving them 61 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:07,400 throughout the year of 2009 and culminating in the final 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,300 escalation of the 30. He always here and say, yeah, he 63 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:15,400 sent 30,000 more, ye sent 30,000 more after he sent 40,000 more, 64 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:21,900 you know, but so anyway, you know, and then, and he knew that 65 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:24,500 they were rolling them and he gave in to the pressure, you 66 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:28,500 know, in, I hate to quote Bob Woodward books all the time, 67 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:31,900 but, Because it is, it's always very establishment narrative, 68 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:34,700 but on the other hand, yeah, because he's talking to the 69 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:36,700 principles. He's getting, you know, he's 70 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:39,000 interviewing the people who are directly involved in it. 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,400 So, you know, whether they're being disingenuous or not. 72 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Sometimes this beside the point, you just get to see the window, 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,800 you know, through their eyes. So, one of the things that they 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,400 talked about in that book in his book Obama's Wars, which is not 75 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,000 about Obama's Wars at all. It's about the bureaucratic war 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:55,600 in. D.c. 77 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,200 In the year 2009 trying to force Obama de-escalate Afghanistan. 78 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:00,700 And that's what the whole book is about. 79 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:04,700 I don't know why they called it that anyway, and, and in that, 80 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:08,800 everybody knew, right, that the Pentagon and the Secretary of 81 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Defense their job is to say mr. President. 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,500 Let's quadruple down. Right? 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,300 And then the state Department's job is to say, well, I don't 84 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:18,200 think so. Why don't we do less? 85 00:04:18,899 --> 00:04:22,200 And then that way, Obama can say, well, you know, I have this 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,000 other Penny put in Obama's war council, of course, his 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,800 secretary of state was Hillary Clinton. 88 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:32,200 So Hillary Clinton, As gee boss, I think you better do what they 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,500 say. And then this is in the telling 90 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:41,800 of Robert Gates and Leon Panetta, who was the CIA guy. 91 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,300 And I guess, you know, General Petraeus to that in their own 92 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:49,200 view. They were the Hawks as 93 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,900 especially Gates, and portrays, they with a hawks. 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,300 But even to them, they thought that this was just so horrible 95 00:04:56,300 --> 00:05:00,100 and cynical of Hillary Clinton to do this to Barack Obama, 96 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:03,300 where she was as they put, I think this was Gates as word. 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Words that she was narrowing his Running Room and leaving him 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,500 fewer up. Leaving him. 99 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:13,500 No one decide with. Basically right leaving in fewer 100 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:15,900 people in his administration to say that. 101 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:17,800 Well, I started with the doves over the Hawks. 102 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,900 Is there just nothing but Hawks and then so he was the only 103 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:25,100 people who backed the minimal position relatively minimal. 104 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:29,800 That is position was the vice president, then Joe Biden and 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Douglas loot who was a general? The wars are that The had 106 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,300 inherited from George w-- Bush and they both didn't want to 107 00:05:38,308 --> 00:05:42,400 escalate, but that wasn't enough basically Hillary if she had 108 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,200 really joined their side, maybe it would have been enough. 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,400 But so, in November 2009, Obama rolled over. 110 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,100 He gave them everything that they wanted, but it's so clear 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,400 from, not just Woodward, but from all the reporting at that 112 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,500 time, that Obama didn't believe in all this claptrap about 113 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,300 counterinsurgency Doctrine and how we're going to win the 114 00:05:59,308 --> 00:06:02,300 hearts and minds of the people that thing and Joe Biden at the 115 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:06,100 time was like, look, Should murder any Arab we can find 116 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:08,200 their fine. But, why are we fighting the 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,700 Taliban? That's stupid. 118 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:10,700 Dude. What are we doing? 119 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:13,400 We shouldn't have. We shouldn't even try to win 120 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,500 over the people of the primarily pashtun regions of Afghanistan, 121 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:19,200 the South and the east of the country. 122 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:22,100 We should just make sure that there's no real bad guys who 123 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,300 threaten us there, and then that's it. 124 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:27,500 So, I'm not saying I'm for that, but that was the minimal version 125 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:28,900 of the. It was still an escalation. 126 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:31,300 He wanted 40,000, not 70 or whatever. 127 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:33,600 It was, right. He still was bad on it, but he 128 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,900 was saying the mission should be limited to making sure that the 129 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:41,000 Kabul government doesn't fall. Making sure there's no Al-Qaeda 130 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,700 guys there. Instead it's funny because the 131 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:48,200 Pentagon pushed on Obama. The policy that you just read to 132 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,400 me is him pretending was his idea that he wanted to do was 133 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,200 the thing that they made him do. Yeah. 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Well we had to promise to, you know, make sure not just to keep 135 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,100 the Kabul government from falling but we have to build it 136 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:04,400 into a great new stable Democratic thing that'll last 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,300 for the ages and you know, we got to go and do I forgot the 138 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:10,700 rest of the Quote there, but essentially we got to go and 139 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:13,700 take it to the bag, guys. Broadly, defined to mean the 140 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:17,700 locals, not trans national International Arab terrorists, 141 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:20,600 but the people who are fighting to get us off of their own 142 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,100 front, lawn as Obama knew good and well, and we're not talking 143 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:25,800 about George w--, Bush or Donald Trump. 144 00:07:25,808 --> 00:07:31,200 The complete dum-dum here, you know, Obama knew enough to be as 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,700 self-aware. As any person could be at the 146 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:37,700 wrong that he was committing when he was committing it. 147 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:42,000 No, About it on page three twenty. 148 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,000 He talks about the Rydell plan saying, our principle goal to 149 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,300 disrupt and dismantle and defeat Al Qaeda in Pakistan and 150 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:55,400 Afghanistan and to prevent their return to either country in the 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,500 future. The report added emphasis on 152 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:01,700 Pakistan was key, not only to the Pakistani military and 153 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:05,600 particular, its intelligence arm is I tolerate the presence of 154 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,700 Taliban headquarters and leadership in Kutta near pack. 155 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,700 A crostini border but it was also quietly. 156 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:15,000 Assisting the Taliban. As a means of keeping the Afghan 157 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 government week and hedging against couples potential 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,200 alignment with Pakistani archrival India, that that's 159 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,000 like you ever in full Serna. Well, two more sentences that 160 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 the u.s. Government had long tolerated, 161 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,799 such behavior from a purported. Ally supporting it with billions 162 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,400 of dollars in Military and economic aid, despite its 163 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,500 complicity with With extremist and its record as a significant 164 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:43,700 and irresponsible proliferator of nuclear. 165 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:47,600 Weapons, technology in the world said something about the 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,500 pretzel, like logic of u.s. Foreign policy. 167 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,900 Al Qaeda has gone from Afghanistan to Pakistan. 168 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:57,300 We got a fight them over there before they come over here. 169 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:01,800 How do you respond? Well, I mean, just putting the 170 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:05,200 dot on the end of my sentence there about how this man is 171 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,400 absolutely self-aware about the Nuance of this stuff. 172 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Unlike a couple of real murder. Well, presidents. 173 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,500 We've had recently. This one can read books. 174 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:20,700 Okay, and then, but so what he's saying about Pakistan is Right, 175 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,500 Pakistan backs, the Afghan Taliban to, prevent the Kabul 176 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:27,400 government that Obama Bush and Obama were installing Empower 177 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,200 their from creating a true Monopoly on Force there in 178 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,700 Alliance with Pakistan's archrival to their South East 179 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:39,500 India, and so they don't want to be hemmed in by India and India 180 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:42,200 is a lie in Afghanistan. So they got a back the Taliban 181 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,500 there to keep that from happening. 182 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:47,700 Well, that's been their policy since 2005 and it works. 183 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,800 And what can the Americans do about it? 184 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,600 Nothing and what's going to make the pakistanis back down from 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:58,000 that policy, nothing and and then what are the Americans do? 186 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 As I know I'm sure you laughed out loud reading pools and the 187 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,000 Americans continue to ask the Indians to intervene even more 188 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,400 to help the Afghan government resist. 189 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,200 The Taliban that the pakistanis keep backing for the very reason 190 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,300 that we keep asking the Indians to come in and help prop up the 191 00:10:16,300 --> 00:10:18,700 government in Kabul. And the whole thing is just a 192 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:22,200 perpetual motion machine, of course, you know, fueled by the 193 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,600 American people's money. But otherwise it just keeps 194 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,800 going around and around and around and then at the same 195 00:10:28,808 --> 00:10:32,000 time, this is the same Pakistani government, then that he allied 196 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,400 with and help them. Launch this massive war against 197 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,700 the Pakistani Taliban and this Like a kind of a trade off like 198 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:43,800 a compromise. If you let us do our CIA, drone 199 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,200 War, to kill Al-Qaeda guys in Pakistan, then we'll help you 200 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,400 wager war against the Pakistani Taliban which had never 201 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,700 threatened us and wasn't a problem for us. 202 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:57,700 And as a result of that, the Pakistani Taliban tried to blow 203 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:01,900 up Times Square in 2010, you might remember, Faisal shahzad 204 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:03,800 and the failed plot at Times Square. 205 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:05,400 Luckily. His bomb didn't go off. 206 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:08,500 He was sent there by the Pakistani Taliban to do that. 207 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:11,200 Well, They never targeted us before, they have no beef with 208 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,400 us. They probably never heard of the 209 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,600 New World before until Obama Started, helping their 210 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,800 government bomb the hell out of them up there in waziristan, the 211 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,800 SWAT Valley in the federally administered tribal territories 212 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,900 there. And then of course, another 213 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:29,000 major part of the blowback from Obama's war in Pakistan, was at 214 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,300 the tarika. Taliban guys, fled across the 215 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,300 border to Afghanistan for Safe Haven. 216 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Just like the Afghan Taliban hide in Pakistan. 217 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,600 Pakistani. Taliban came to hide an afghan. 218 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Then and then guess what? I know you'll be surprised and 219 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,100 amazed and won't believe me. When I tell you that the CIA and 220 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:48,800 the Afghan government, recruited them to for a little bit of 221 00:11:48,808 --> 00:11:52,000 payback against the pakistanis. How would you like it? 222 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,600 If we start backing, the Pakistani, Taliban taking Safe 223 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,100 Haven on this side of the border and they start doing a tax on 224 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:00,600 your side of the board and see how you like that. 225 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,300 Because all the American CIA. They're really clever guys. 226 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:05,500 They know what to do. And then they also said, you 227 00:12:05,508 --> 00:12:08,600 know, we could use These Guys, these new Pakistani got maybe. 228 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:11,800 We could use them against the Afghan Taliban to start giving 229 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:12,900 him some money. Some training. 230 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,100 Next thing, you know, they Hoist the Black Flag and call 231 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:22,000 themselves Isis Islamic State in the khorasan province and 232 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:24,900 they're now, the whole new Safe Haven myth, the whole new, 233 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:28,700 excuse to stay is well. Okay, we haven't seen any Arabs 234 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,100 in like 20 years, but these pakistanis in Afghanistan and 235 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:37,200 the few Afghan Taliban guys who've gone to their cause they 236 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,400 call themselves Isis. And so that's in. 237 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,900 Those are the head chopper, guys. 238 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:44,300 You remember them? So, that's enough to keep us at 239 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,200 War and that's the narrative in Washington DC. 240 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:50,800 And so, you know, and all this is Obama's fault. 241 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Never had to be this way at all, and he could've told listen. 242 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,100 Obama said, look, I can't look weak. 243 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,900 Rahm Emanuel. Told him. 244 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:02,100 I know that's in the book. Rahm Emanuel, told him, you 245 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:05,200 can't look weak. Well, doesn't it look weak to 246 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,400 roll over for your for David Petraeus? 247 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:14,900 You know, who does nothing but lose Wars, you know, why not be 248 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:17,800 a tough guy by facing down the Hawks. 249 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:21,400 Oh you want to resign over my refusal of escalate? 250 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,500 Huh? How about this? 251 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:25,400 You're fired for trying to force me to? 252 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,100 A war that I already know is stupid and that I know that, you 253 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:31,100 know, is stupid. Mr. Don't have enough stars and 254 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:34,600 want another one. So screw you, you know, and then 255 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,900 he would have been the alpha dog. 256 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:37,400 Then he would have been the tough guy. 257 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Only doing the right thing instead of the wrong thing. 258 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:44,200 And instead, and this is in my book, and I think I got this 259 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,400 from Woodward, but I think it was somewhere else to that, that 260 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,400 Rahm Emanuel met with Lindsey Graham and Lindsey Graham on 261 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,400 behalf of himself. And John McCain said, Give us a 262 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,500 number that starts with a three meaning, another 30,000, 263 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:03,500 something troops. And we promise that will shut 264 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,200 up. And that's exactly what 265 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,300 happened. That was the deal that they 266 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:07,500 made. They shook hands. 267 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,700 They gave him thirty thousand troops, why to help the Afghan 268 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:13,500 people know. So that Lindsey Graham, and John 269 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:15,500 McCain would be quiet in the Senate. 270 00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:18,300 Exit explicit is just for politics. 271 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,900 For war that Obama knew he couldn't win. 272 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:27,100 New counterinsurgency was wrong. You know, that's amazing. 273 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:30,000 Listening to him, you know, his justification for this, that 274 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,300 guy's a sociopath on the level of Bill Clinton. 275 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:35,500 Listen to you read that though. The Memoirs just incredible. 276 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:39,900 So you are confident that even though there's a group, Al-Qaeda 277 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:42,800 who hates America and has no problem killing civilians. 278 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:47,100 We don't have to be invading Afghanistan and Pakistan to have 279 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:49,200 National Security. So, that's your position. 280 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Yeah, of course not look the reason okay to attack this 281 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,200 because we have bases in Saudi Arabia fact, speaking and 282 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Lindsey Graham. This is G like this whole 283 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,000 occupation theories, crazy. We weren't occupying Afghanistan 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,300 before September 11th. Yeah, but it wasn't Afghans. 285 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:04,800 Who attacked us? Was it? 286 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,300 It was Saudis and Egyptians, you know, Egyptians where we backed 287 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:12,400 the military dictatorship for 30 years up until then, you know, 288 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:18,600 the Saudi Arabia where we backed the Royal monarchy for 75 years 289 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:23,300 in their rulership over, you know, their monarchy is, I'm an 290 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:26,900 American, you're an American. Do I need to elaborate do I need 291 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:30,300 to explain that that is means inherently. 292 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,000 Absolutely illegitimate, you know, like the place is run by 293 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,800 which doctors or something, right? 294 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,900 Because you don't have the right to rule these people. 295 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,900 You call yourself a king. You're not Royal at all. 296 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:46,000 You're scum. That's all Americans. 297 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,900 Agree about that, except in Washington d.c., You know, go 298 00:15:49,900 --> 00:15:51,700 ahead. I was just going to say if 299 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:55,300 people want more info on that the first chapter of fools, And 300 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:57,400 is terrific along with dying to win. 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,300 By Robert Pape, really gets into the the history and legitimacy 302 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:04,500 of blowback. Are there any good blowback 303 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,600 books, yours being the best? Robert papes being a close 304 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,700 second. Are there any more that I'm not 305 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,500 remembering that are just vital. I do over Helen I go over a lot 306 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:17,000 of the same material in the new book because him and I think as 307 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,800 you remember the, the Afghanistan book that was really 308 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,900 chapter 1 and chapter 2 of this book. 309 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,000 Yeah. It kind of Only turn into a book 310 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,500 about Afghanistan because I couldn't keep chapter 2 at 311 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:32,200 chapter lank. So I I really appreciate a lot 312 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,600 of that same material from chapter 1. 313 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,600 So all that'll be enough already but you know classic recommended 314 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,600 by Osama. Bin Laden himself is Imperial 315 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,000 hubris. Why America is losing the war on 316 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,500 terrorism by Michael scheuer. It's you know on amazon.com. 317 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,300 It's by anonymous because when it came out in the CIA still 318 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:54,900 insisted that he keep his identity Secret. 319 00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:58,200 This was the chief of the cia's been Laden unit and the book was 320 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,700 written in 2004 and I should say cuz I want to say that he's a 321 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:04,300 total piece of garbage. Now. 322 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,900 He's gone completely crazy and you know talks about you know, 323 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:12,700 he'd like to see every last Muslim all die. 324 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:15,800 In one big, Civil War we ought to fund both sides till they're 325 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,599 all dead or just whatever. Like total, new Kamal, turn the 326 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:23,300 Middle East to Glass, kind of right-wing crap, but he used to 327 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:26,700 say wise things. About how our government got us 328 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:30,400 into this mess. And if you read, 2004 era, 329 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,500 Michael schwerner and that book in pure hubris. 330 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:35,500 That is absolutely. Well. 331 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:37,300 There's just no question. He says listen. 332 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,500 Yes, they are islamist radicals, but that's not why they do what 333 00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:46,200 they do to us. They attack us because not 334 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,100 because of who we are not because we're free or white or 335 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:53,600 Christian or North American or innocent or Brave, they attack 336 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,100 us because we support there. Taters because we have military 337 00:17:57,100 --> 00:18:00,800 bases next to their most. Holy sites that we use to carpet 338 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,600 bomb the neighboring country next door. 339 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,800 Yes, and of course, and we back the Israeli occupation of 340 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Lebanon and Palestine as well. And primary sources, Ben 341 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,600 Laden's, 90 1998 letter along with his letter and like, 2000 342 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,200 letter to the Americans. So 96. 343 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,300 Yeah. There's, there's the 1996 344 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:25,500 declaration of war against the Americans occupying, the Land of 345 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,800 the two, holy places, pretty subtle, huh? 346 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,900 And then the second one was the declaration of war against 347 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,600 International Jihad against Jews and Crusaders. 348 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,300 And both of those are just absolutely explicit. 349 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:40,800 And then, as you mentioned, there's the letter to America 350 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,900 from 2002. There's the speech that he gave 351 00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:47,300 in 2004. And in fact, there's a whole 352 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:48,200 book. I read a whole book. 353 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,000 One time of just all collected Bin Laden Bin Laden speeches and 354 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,100 stuff from all through the 1990s and You know, there's also 355 00:18:56,100 --> 00:19:00,400 really great book called The Secret history of Al Qaeda by 356 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Abdel Bari Audubon, and he's the publisher and editor of 357 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,200 alkaloids. I larabee the newspaper in 358 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,400 Britain and he went and interviewed Bin Laden for three 359 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:21,100 days in like 1998 or 1999 and Afghanistan, I think and and and 360 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,400 it's just all in there, bro. I don't know what to tell you. 361 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,500 It's Read It. And Weep. 362 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,800 There's so much in there. That's where I learned about 363 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,200 Iraqi sanctions, which I had never heard about previously. 364 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:36,400 So continuing on with Barack Obama page 5A T. 365 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:40,800 He's talking about how difficult it was to close, Guantanamo Bay. 366 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,200 And he says, in fact, the largest contingent 99 men from 367 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,900 Guantanamo was from Yemen, a dirt. 368 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:51,200 Poor country with a barely functioning government deep 369 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,600 tribal conflicts and the single most active Al-Qaeda. 370 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:59,300 Are outside pakistanis federally administered tribal areas? 371 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:04,200 F80 a, he goes on to mention Yemen for the last time Page, 6 372 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,200 24, Yemen. One of the world's true. 373 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Hard luck cases has become headquarters to Al Qaeda in the 374 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,200 Arabian Peninsula, which was now the deadliest and most active 375 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 chapter of the terrorist Network. 376 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,200 We are only in Yemen to fight. Al Qaeda who has already killed 377 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,000 us parched partially out of Revenge. 378 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,500 We're getting them. And to deter further attacks, 379 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:30,100 there for intervention, in Yemen, along with the Saudis is 380 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,100 morally Justified. How do you respond? 381 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Do I understand you? Right? 382 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,400 You're saying that the last thing that you read There was 383 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,400 his final reference to Yemen. And so I'm going to have to go 384 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,200 through this again, but I didn't remember it. 385 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,100 So, I went to the index and Yemen only comes up twice. 386 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:51,700 I think you are. And now, and so is there a year 387 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,700 in that passage that you just read to me? 388 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:58,000 Is there a year? Or a Time reference there. 389 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,200 I'm sorry at the end of 2010 on Page, 6. 24. 390 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:05,700 Yemen is mentioned twice, 581 and 624. 391 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,400 And and you're saying when he's talking there about killing Al 392 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Qaeda there he's, this is in 2010 or he's referring to the 393 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,300 2010 are there and nothing after that? 394 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:23,000 If that there you go, you know again with the you know, what, 395 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,100 if Donald Trump made of oversight in his Memoir, I 396 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:31,100 probably would not think that was necessarily dishonest. 397 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:37,600 But but for Barack Obama to just forget that he started the war 398 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,900 in Yemen and to leave that out of this book is just it just 399 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:45,200 goes to show that he's essentially a psychopath, right? 400 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,800 It could be one of these bait and switch, has he? 401 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:50,300 Since the year 2010 and then mentions Yemen. 402 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:54,300 So technically he didn't say, you know, when it's actually 403 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:59,500 started just like just like me would say we had 9/11 and we had 404 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:00,900 to go into Iraq. Yeah. 405 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,800 Okay, they didn't explicitly say it but they're intentionally 406 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:05,100 lying. Well, look. 407 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,600 No, you made it clear, though. In that passes, that you read. 408 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,100 This is strictly a reference to the CIA effort against al Qaeda 409 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:15,400 in the Arabian Peninsula, and he's not mentioning what he's 410 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,200 not mentioning at all. Is the entirely other Other 411 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,600 different separate war that he launched their with Saudi Arabia 412 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,800 in 2015, which is not the same were at all. 413 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,300 As I know. You know, it's the war for 414 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:32,500 Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula Who are tight allies 415 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:36,600 and serve in the militia of the United Arab Emirates in Allah. 416 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,900 In Alliance with Saudi Arabia and the United States against 417 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:42,000 their enemies, the Shiite houthis. 418 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,400 So this is like George w--. Bush writing a memoir where he 419 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,900 forgets to mention that he backed. 420 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,900 Ethiopian invasion of Somalia and it just doesn't fit in 421 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,200 there. In fact, I never read bushes 422 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,500 Memoir. I'm willing to bet small. 423 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:56,700 He's not in there. And this is essentially 424 00:22:56,700 --> 00:23:00,600 equivalent to that, that, you know, oh, yeah, Yemen. 425 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:02,700 Yeah, that's where I fought Al-Qaeda. 426 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:06,600 There, for a few years, early in my Administration and never mind 427 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,000 the last two years of it at all. Never mind. 428 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,300 We knew it would be long, bloody and indecisive, but we felt we 429 00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:19,700 had to placate the Saudis. And ethical reasons, and you're 430 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:23,800 roughly quoting from a quote, from Obama in the New York 431 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Times. Yeah, it's his staff. 432 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,300 Anyway. Talking to the New York Times. 433 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:29,500 Yeah. In fact, I have another quote 434 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,900 coming out in the new book. I found a quote of one of the 435 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:36,500 Obama officials saying look, we didn't do this because we 436 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:39,100 thought it would be good for Yemen in any way. 437 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 The people of Yemen, we did this for the good of u.s. 438 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Saudi relations. Start a war. 439 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 I haven't checked anti board.com. 440 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,100 Do you know what the casualties are and Yemen between the 441 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:58,600 bombings in the sanctions? Well, no, I mean I think nobody 442 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:05,000 knows the the most recent un numbers are almost a quarter of 443 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,800 a million, but that would be like a year and a half ago, act 444 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,800 LED data. Let's see. 445 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,400 I do have this from Recently. The well, it was almost a year 446 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,700 ago would have been early. A cloud data. 447 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:23,500 I should I should double-check and see if they have an update. 448 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,900 Actually. They had it that there was a 449 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:29,900 hundred thousand and change had been killed directly in 450 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,800 violence. And then I think another 100,000 451 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,200 or so. I forgot exactly the proportions 452 00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:38,400 had died of deprivation from the war. 453 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,400 Essentially, you know, casualties of war in the broader 454 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,500 sense, but I'm telling you now that that doesn't scratch the 455 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:50,100 surface because you have people dying of Well nutrition, and I'm 456 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,600 easily curable diseases, you know, something gets a common 457 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,700 cold and drops dead, sir completely malnourished and have 458 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,800 no ability to fight off disease, have no clean drinking, water 459 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,000 been thousands and thousands of deaths from cholera. 460 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,700 There were some exaggerated reports that a million people 461 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:09,900 have died of Cholera or million people have it then and tens of 462 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,900 thousands dying or hundreds of thousands dying. 463 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:14,900 That was all exaggerated, but still it's thousands and 464 00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:18,000 thousands of people in the worst call outbreaks and this is from 465 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,900 having Water. Because the Americans and the 466 00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:23,300 Saudis bomb, their sewage and bomb their Water Works, and bomb 467 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:26,900 their electricity stole, their Central Bank and moved it down 468 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,600 to Aidan. So that to cut off, all the 469 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,600 salaries of all the government employees. 470 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,600 So there's no, you know, all the, all the garbage men, all 471 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,900 those civil servants, all the people that work at the sewage 472 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,200 in the Waterworks, and the electricity can't be paid to do 473 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200 their jobs. So they have to go and try to 474 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,600 find work elsewhere, and what have you and all this stuff 475 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,600 stays broken. They bomb the hospital's, they 476 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,100 bomb the fisherman. And when this is all over, we're 477 00:25:51,108 --> 00:25:54,700 going to find that. It's half a million minimum dead 478 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,500 civilians in this thing, man. It's a genocide. 479 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,100 It's a deliberate. See, you know, you can do a hell 480 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:05,300 of a war against Iraq, but well, I mean, actually, what's 481 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:09,000 comparable here is after Iraq war one, you know, where during 482 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,100 a rock or one, they deliberately bomb the sewage in the 483 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,200 electricity and the water works and then put them under 484 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,800 blockade. But like ice my comparison was 485 00:26:16,808 --> 00:26:18,400 going to be the Iraq War to wear. 486 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:23,600 We got a million people killed on this crazy Mission, you know, 487 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,500 as set up by, you know, rice and Rumsfeld. 488 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:29,400 And whoever to put these factions and then those factions 489 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,400 and whatever, you know, trying to negotiate that war and you 490 00:26:33,408 --> 00:26:35,300 could say it amounted to a genocide. 491 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:38,000 You could say with this, you know, I just interviewed Kelly 492 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,500 vallejos about the absolute horror show. 493 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:43,500 That is Iraq right now. I mean, their society has been 494 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:47,900 completely destroyed, but it wasn't launched as a genocide. 495 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,800 It was just Launched as a stupid. 496 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,200 Premeditated murder plot of a few thousand people, you know, 497 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,300 it wasn't supposed to be like this, you know, total 498 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:00,400 catastrophe, but in Yemen, it was in Yemen. 499 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,400 The purpose of the war. So the kill innocent people. 500 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:07,300 The purpose of the war is to starve them out, you know to 501 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,500 riddle them with disease to the point that then what somehow 502 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,000 they're going to overthrow their government. 503 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,800 So that the government stops making America and Saudi Arabia 504 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,500 mad at them, which is completely stupid and wrong. 505 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,200 It'll never work in a million years. 506 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:24,700 It hasn't worked in six years key and there are starving 507 00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,400 people to death and you know, they deliberately bomb the 508 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,500 Farms, we've talked about this, they bomb the grain, silos. 509 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,200 They bomb the irrigation ducts and the the flocks of sheep in 510 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,100 the field and the trucks. The fishermen the though, you 511 00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:44,100 know horses and whatever livestock, they have whatever 512 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,000 they can. And then in fact, there's a 513 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,600 whole I just found this the other day. 514 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,300 There's a whole Human Rights Watch report targeting 515 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,900 businesses where they're going. They're like, I don't know what 516 00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:01,100 they're looking in the phone book for the the city of Sodom 517 00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,100 in North Yemen, and they're just looking in the white pages and 518 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,500 who else got a successful business and their address and 519 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:09,800 their just bombing them. Just trying to completely, you 520 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,100 know, destroy ad-libbing the last part there about the phone 521 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,800 book, you get it, but they're just trying to destroy every 522 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,400 successful business that they can on the ground. 523 00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,000 Just completely eradicate, the economic life of the civilian 524 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,600 population of the country. It's absolutely Savage, 525 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Barbarian medieval Siege Warfare, and, and illegal under 526 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,700 all the Geneva conventions. And you know, who says, so State 527 00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:39,200 Department lawyers in Obama and Trump's government have written 528 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,700 up, memos, saying boss. I'm afraid we could all go to 529 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:45,000 prison for this. Because they are under the 530 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,700 delusion that the law applies to them, but they know what the law 531 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:51,500 is. And the law says that it's 532 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:55,200 against the law to do this. There's an American war crimes 533 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,300 act, that makes it a felony to participate in these things. 534 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,500 And that, you know, just like they said in Syria. 535 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,000 Well, that's why it has to be covert. 536 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,900 Because we know it's illegal. Yeah, they're traitors and 537 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:11,800 they're murderers. That's terrible. 538 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,000 I look forward to reading the book. 539 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000 I know there's a chapter on Yemen because that's when I got 540 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,000 to read two or three times to really get to the bottom page, 541 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,500 06:52 in Syria, the March 2011, arrest, and torture of 15 school 542 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,400 boys, who had sprayed anti-government graffiti on City 543 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,400 walls, set off major protest against the Assad dominated 544 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,800 regime in many of the countries predominantly Sunni communities. 545 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:44,300 After Gasps water cannons beatings and mass arrests failed 546 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:45,500 to quell. The demonstrations. 547 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:48,800 Assad Security Forces. Went on to launch a full-scale 548 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,500 military operations. Across several cities complete 549 00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:57,200 with live fire tanks and house-to-house searches in 2011. 550 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200 No one questioned our limited influence in Syria. 551 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,500 That would come later. He finishes the section by 552 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,500 asking. But what if government start 553 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:09,700 massacring, not hundreds of its citizens, but thousands and the 554 00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:12,300 United States. Has the power to stop it. 555 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:14,700 Then what? So because of the crimes of 556 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,400 Bashar al-assad against innocent civilians. 557 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,500 The u.s. Big military had to step in on 558 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,700 behalf of the citizens to stop the Tyrant Assad. 559 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,600 How do you respond? I really dislike this Barack 560 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Obama guy. I mean, first of all, that's not 561 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,700 true. Second of all is, makes me just 562 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:37,900 got. We're just about I swear to you. 563 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:40,000 I keep saying this. Everybody can't stop thinking 564 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,900 it. I feel like it's already been 565 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:46,700 the Biden years for like three years, and it's not even so you 566 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:50,700 feel, a, my God, the sanctimony of these Democrat. 567 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:55,200 I just can't stand it. You know, just go ahead and 568 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400 admit to me you're lying and just lie. 569 00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:00,800 Does it have to be packaged with all this emotional crap, you 570 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,300 know, so listen. Yes, the Assad regime did use 571 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:09,800 violence against the protest, but the protesters use violence 572 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,600 against the Assad regime to. And you know, what? 573 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,700 If there were for example the cop that died from the the 574 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,300 Wednesday thing in Washington d.c. 575 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,500 Well, we only found out. He died this morning writer 576 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,500 yesterday. It came out that he died but 577 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:31,200 like what if all those right wing Trump, people had come and 578 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800 started killing cops, a bunch of them. 579 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,500 And what do you think? I mean, they would have pushed 580 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,700 rumpus. I'd probably at that point the 581 00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:44,800 rest of the In DC government would have used far more than 582 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,500 necessary Force to eradicate that mob, from being anywhere 583 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,800 near their precious, White marble institutions, the 584 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,800 America, the American government would use ultimate violent Force 585 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,000 to put down any attempt to, you know, overthrow their government 586 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,600 or or commit violence against their security forces who are 587 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,900 protecting their institutions. Well, it's true that there were 588 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,800 peaceful protesters, moderate protesters democratic reform. 589 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,400 Minded people left us some socialists and who knows maybe 590 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400 even Libertarians. I don't know out there 591 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,600 protesting wanting to be free, but there were also jihadist 592 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,400 killing cops. And so what happens is the cops 593 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,200 overreact to that and this isn't to justify anything. 594 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,400 And as far as I know that story of the torture, those boys is 595 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,800 correct. And you know, in what during 596 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,500 their in, there was a lot of that. 597 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,500 But you know, Char Minar wani has written about this at length 598 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,800 in the American conservative magazine and a great journalist 599 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,900 named William Van wagaman has written about this at my 600 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:56,100 website, you know, the libertarian Institute as As 601 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,200 done, incredible research on this showing them. 602 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,200 From the very beginning of the protests. 603 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,700 There were some people on the margins were committing acts of 604 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:09,600 violence against the cops and soldiers, and then that makes 605 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200 everything worse. The government, of course, 606 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,700 continued to clamp down, and the people then react worse and get 607 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:17,600 more radicalized. But then, here's what's missing 608 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,200 in this whole narrative, man. Al Qaeda in Iraq, coming across 609 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,200 the border from Iraq to take over this thing. 610 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:31,000 And Barack Obama Saudi Arabia, turkey, Qatar and Israel. 611 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,700 And Jordan all working together to back these jihadis. 612 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,900 He says, oh, are barely limited intervention Beyond saying 613 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:44,400 something in 2011, that's a damn lie, and I know it and he knows 614 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,800 it and it's proven in my book. It's proven online right now. 615 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:52,800 You can see all over the place where, in fact, John Hannah, who 616 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,700 worked for Dick Cheney wrote in a moment. 617 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,600 A certain key that it was in April of 2011 that Prince bandar 618 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:04,800 is back in charge of the Intelligence Division over there 619 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:09,500 in Saudi Arabia and he's emptying the jails and sending 620 00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,199 terrorists off to fight in Syria. 621 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,600 And look, we're talking about, we still had trip is 2011. 622 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,300 We still have troops in Iraq, right? 623 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:20,100 Iraq war to wasn't even all the way over yet. 624 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,100 But we're supposed to forget that if Saudi is sending 625 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:29,300 Fighters off to join the Insurgency, that that means 626 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,699 al-Qaeda in Iraq. That means the bad guys. 627 00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:35,300 At where's, we're not even quite all the way done fighting. 628 00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,699 Just on the other side of the border from Saudi right now in a 629 00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,100 rock, right? There's a moment. 630 00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:46,000 And then for the rest, we had Alistair Crook, and we got Eric 631 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,100 Margulies, and we've got John Bradley in foreign affairs and 632 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,300 We got Phillip geraldi in anti-war.com and we got now 633 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,500 leaked the stratfor email that shows that it's trap for. 634 00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:02,100 They were talking about this at the end of December 2011. 635 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:06,400 America Britain, French Special Operations forces on the ground 636 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,800 spies on the ground money. Saudis and qataris sending 637 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,700 weapons, and send and dollars, and it's on. 638 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,200 And so they want to say that this is all generated by Bashar 639 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,200 al-assad. No, it wasn't. 640 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,900 It was a foreign invasion. Enough american-backed, Al Qaeda 641 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,800 terrorists. That's who it was Obama, backed 642 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,100 Al-Qaeda terrorist. He goes on to sort of draw this 643 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:34,100 pattern that there was uprisings in Tunisia, uprisings in Egypt, 644 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000 and then other Middle Eastern dictators, got a little 645 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600 intimidated about the uppity populace. 646 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,300 Going into Gaddafi in Libya. He says that the beginning of 647 00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,900 Gaddafi's regime decades ago. He had been ruthlessly efficient 648 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:49,800 in stamping out dissent in his country. 649 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,800 You Using a combination of secret police Security Forces 650 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,000 state-sponsored militia to jail torture and murder. 651 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,400 Anyone who dared to oppose him later. 652 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,000 He talks about the arrest of a human rights, lawyer by Gaddafi. 653 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,800 The this gave rise to protest which Gaddafi accused of being 654 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,800 fronts for Al-Qaeda. Gaddafi Unleashed a campaign of 655 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,900 Terror, declaring, everything will burn by the beginning of 656 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,000 March. The death count has written had 657 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,900 risen to 1,000. I called for him to relinquish 658 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:20,200 power arguing that he had lost legitimacy to. 659 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,800 Auburn, we imposed economic sanctions for those billions of 660 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,200 dollars that belonged to his family at the United Nations 661 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,700 security Council. We passed an arms embargo. 662 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:34,900 They were referred to in the international criminal court as 663 00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:37,400 illegitimate. He says, he asked himself, how 664 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,800 many more people have to die before? 665 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,700 We take this one step, he finishes by saying, we were 666 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:47,200 trying to prevent a massacre in Libya, while minimizing the risk 667 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,500 to give the Libyan people an opportunity to Engineer a new 668 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,500 government and then he summarizes the results March 669 00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,700 ended without a single us casualty in Libya and for an 670 00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,000 approximate cost of 550 million dollars. 671 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,200 Not more than what we spent per day on military operations in 672 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,300 Iraq and Afghanistan. We had accomplished our 673 00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:10,000 objective of saving Benghazi and its neighboring cities, perhaps 674 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,500 tens of thousands of lives. According to Samantha. 675 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,500 It was the quickest International military 676 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,300 intervention to prevent a mass atrocity in modern history. 677 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,000 What would happen with regard to Libya is government. 678 00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:23,000 And unclear with Gaddafi ordering further attacks, even 679 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 in the face of NATO bombing operations. 680 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,400 And with the opposition fueled by a loose Coalition of Rebel, 681 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,000 militias Gaddafi commits atrocities there for the US was 682 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:37,500 rightfully going in to stop the atrocities from continuing. 683 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:40,900 How do you respond? You know, I'm confused because I 684 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,000 could have swore at the beginning of that passage. 685 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,300 He was going to talk about. That was why he moved to help 686 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:51,200 overthrow the royal family in Saudi Arabia, and in Bahrain 687 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,500 because they restrict the rights of the people there and use 688 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,400 violence in Saudi Arabia in know what they do to their Shiite. 689 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,900 Dissidents. They cut their heads off and 690 00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:02,500 then crucify their headless Corpses. 691 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,100 To set an example, if that's what happens when you stick your 692 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,900 neck out, for a little bit of justice and fairness in Saudi 693 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:16,200 Arabia and Bahrain. The, the Shiite masses, the 694 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,100 supermajority suffer under a Sunni dictatorship. 695 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:25,700 So called royal family, and they came out to protest after Egypt 696 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:28,100 and Tunisia. And they said, we don't want to 697 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,100 overthrow the king. We're not trying to overthrow 698 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,600 the king. We just want a constitutional. 699 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,400 Monarchy, we just want a law that says of course. 700 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,300 Yeah, you're the king and everything, but just that you 701 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:43,200 can't do anything with us, no matter what like with no 702 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,500 accountability at all, because that's not really fair. 703 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,600 And you know, what happened, Obama sat there and encouraged 704 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000 at least health or, you know, looked away by. 705 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,500 In fact, I need to go back. I think he even gave the green 706 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:57,700 light for Saturday to send their trucks and tanks across the 707 00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:01,400 causeway to the little island nation of Bahrain to help Crush 708 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,500 that Uprising on. Half of the monarchy there. 709 00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,700 And when his chairman of Joint, Chiefs of Staff Admiral, Mullen 710 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,900 was asked on NBC. Well, geez, how come we 711 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:14,100 overthrow the dictatorship? We're working to overthrow the 712 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:18,400 dictatorship in Libya, but we backed the king against his 713 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,300 people in Bahrain and Admiral. Mullen said, well you see 714 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:26,100 Bahrain has been a very close Ally for many years. 715 00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:30,000 Yeah, and then that's it. That's it. 716 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,100 That's the extent of it. That's where we park our boats 717 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,400 and so he can murder every last man woman and child in whatever 718 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,400 City. He's gotten, we don't care about 719 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:45,000 that and then so now to Libya, so I had to work that in there 720 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,600 and these people are the worst fucking Hypocrites. 721 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,300 It's just unbelievable. But and then, are you telling me 722 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,000 that's the end of it. He doesn't talk about what 723 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000 happened in Libya after that, you know, it was a shit show 724 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,400 that Tens of thousands of people have been killed there. 725 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,600 Since that. The Civil War is still raging to 726 00:40:01,607 --> 00:40:04,500 this day. As this book goes to print, 727 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:08,800 there's been hundreds of Benghazi style, massacres that, 728 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,500 we imagine might have happened in the meantime, and they will 729 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:15,000 never be a unified State at peace. 730 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:18,500 They'll never have a parliamentary democracy and they 731 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,300 all curse my grades, as they bury their young and what, huh, 732 00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:28,500 I was just gonna say he says, almost the last Word on it is. 733 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:32,300 But with no Democratic Traditions, or institutions to 734 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:35,600 draw on the counselors. The counselors had their work 735 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,000 cut out for them and with Gaddafi's police force, no 736 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,400 longer in place, the security situation in Benghazi, and other 737 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,300 rebel areas. Now, had a wild west aspect. 738 00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,600 So he mentions the myth of the Wild Wild West which Terry. 739 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,000 Oh gosh. I can't think of his name. 740 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,600 The The Not So Wild Wild West by, yeah, Terry Anderson. 741 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,400 I think, refutes that the long story is All Chaos is caused by 742 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,300 government and they try to say, you know, this reminds me of 743 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,400 when Freedom caused a lot of chaos. 744 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,200 No, no, no. That that's a myth. 745 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,100 Same thing. Every time you gotta creators. 746 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,400 Yeah. Yeah. 747 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,300 So final words on Libya and the effects of the intervention. 748 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:14,100 Yeah. Okay. 749 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200 So first of all, he's just lying that Qaddafi was massacring 750 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,800 civilians on the way to Benghazi. 751 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,900 He wasn't and he had not vowed to murder every last man woman 752 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:24,700 and child in Benghazi. He had bowed only to put down 753 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:28,500 the Insurrection and he was right that the Ian was led by Al 754 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,700 Qaeda, you know, I don't think he ever said that all the 755 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:33,700 protesters were Al Qaeda. He was saying, look and this is 756 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,400 a fact that people can read Alan cooperman. 757 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,900 At the national. Interest has a great write-up on 758 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:42,500 this, that it was Al Qaeda Fighters, Libyan, Veterans of 759 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,000 al-Qaeda in Iraq. They were the ones who started 760 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,100 this war in derna at the very beginning of the thing or not 761 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,100 derived era. Sorry, in the, in the Far East 762 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:58,400 of the country there at the very beginning, and then And that and 763 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,300 he's also did a great job Alan Cooper. 764 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:02,900 My did a great job of riding up in the very first place and he 765 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:06,200 did an extended study of this later, but wrote one up for the 766 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,800 Boston Globe called false pretense, for war in Syria about 767 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,100 how I mean, in Libya, how they're there was no indication 768 00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:17,000 that Qaddafi was going to Massacre the civilians of 769 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,900 Benghazi and and then Obama had the nerve to go on TV. 770 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,500 He wouldn't even in America. He's in Brazil at the time. 771 00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,500 He announces the war. Didn't even consult with 772 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,300 Congress whatsoever. He announces the war. 773 00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,800 On his own initiative and he lies and he says imagine the 774 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,800 city of Charlotte, North Carolina 700,000 people wiped 775 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,900 off the face of the Earth and every last man woman and child 776 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:41,200 in Charlotte North Carolina massacred and killed to death. 777 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,200 That's what we're preventing by launching this war in Libya. 778 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,100 Just an absolutely outright lie. I mean, you couldn't make up a 779 00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:50,700 lie about saddam's nuclear weapons program. 780 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:54,700 That was any less honest than that, complete pile of crap. 781 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,800 And then he knew from the beginning and Look, the war, 782 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,500 took nine months and we knew all along and this is all in the 783 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:03,600 book, but we knew from the very beginning of the war. 784 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200 These are the Libyan Veterans of al-Qaeda in Iraq. 785 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,700 These are the British MI6 is Pets, the Libyan Islamic 786 00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,500 fighting Group. Bin Laden night. 787 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,700 Terrorist their bosses, leftover. 788 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:17,600 Jihadists from The Carter. Ronald Reagan 1980s, Afghan 789 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,300 Jihad and in other words U Know OG Bin Laden Nights from the 790 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:27,300 1980s and 90s. And these were the same guys who 791 00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,300 Said they were taking and no mention there by Barack Obama 792 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,200 about the fact that Qaddafi had just signed a deal with George 793 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,200 W, bush to come in from the cold seven months before and that he 794 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,500 was setting the precedent. You know, I bet you if you ask 795 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:42,200 Barack Obama, how bad does it? Look that Donald Trump 796 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,200 pronounced his Iran deal? And how is anybody supposed to 797 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,600 trust America's word? If any president could just 798 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,200 cancel his previous presidents agreement? 799 00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,300 Oh, yeah. Well, what about George Bush 800 00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:56,500 shakes hands with Qaddafi and then Barack Obama shoots him in 801 00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,100 the side of the head. Ed seven years later, you know, 802 00:44:00,107 --> 00:44:03,100 how are the North Koreans are the Iranians supposed to think 803 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:06,400 about Americans and their word after that, you know, it's a 804 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,700 miracle. The Iranians shook hands with 805 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,900 him after that at all. And I'm sorry, I forget every 806 00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:16,000 single little lie in there. But you see that the biggest 807 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 lies the Lie by Omission that he doesn't mention really what's 808 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,400 happened in Libya in the last 10 years that he completely 809 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,400 destroyed it, the places the absolute horror show, tens of 810 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,100 thousands of people have been Guilt. 811 00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:31,600 Yeah, foreign intervention where the Italians and the qataris, 812 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,600 and the Turks back, the government in Tripoli and while 813 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,200 the Egyptians and the UAE and the Russians back. 814 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,200 The these are all allies of ours, except Russia. 815 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,900 You noticed, right? And the French back, the 816 00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:48,400 government in Benghazi. Oh I say we skip the part by I'm 817 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,700 sure Obama skips the part where his CIA director. 818 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:57,300 David Petraeus was committing high treason running. 819 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,800 Guns and jihadist terrorists from Benghazi off to the next 820 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,100 war in Syria, which is what got Ambassador Stevens killed. 821 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,600 Why was Ambassador Stevens? Even in Benghazi and not 822 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,300 Tripoli? It's because he was helping to 823 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:14,600 run this operation with the CIA committing high treason on 824 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,700 behalf of Osama. Bin Laden's, guys just as 825 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,100 they're killing Bin Laden, they're taking his side. 826 00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:22,600 And and what's Obama going to say about that? 827 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,500 It said? Oh, yeah. 828 00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:25,500 No, this doesn't have anything to do. 829 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,300 I never heard. I'm Ana's all the way here. 830 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,000 This is like that time that we should have saved the Tutsis in 831 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,700 Rwanda. See that are the hutus in 832 00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:34,600 Rwanda. No. 833 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,000 The other way around. Yeah, so maybe final question. 834 00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,500 What was Iraq War 3? What was the rack War? 835 00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:44,500 What you cut out there? I'm sorry. 836 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:48,800 What is Iraq War 3. So that's when Obama support for 837 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,200 the terrorists in Syria from 2011, through 2013. 838 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,000 First of all, Isis broke off from al-Qaeda in Syria. 839 00:45:58,700 --> 00:46:02,400 They, it was just as kind of a little bit hard to explain, but 840 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,300 Al Qaeda in Iraq from Iraq war to rename themselves. 841 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:07,900 The Islamic State of Iraq at their lowest point when they 842 00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:10,900 didn't control a city block, you know, they call themselves the 843 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:16,900 Islamic. 8 then once Obama and allies, start the war in Syria, 844 00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:21,100 then they come up with this new name job at all nusra, and they 845 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:25,100 send the more Syrian part of Al Qaeda in Iraq. 846 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,000 Back to their home country, to start up the war. 847 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,100 Well, the war is going great because they got unlimited 848 00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,500 weapons and money from the Americans and jihadist fighters 849 00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,300 from all over the region to go and bite. 850 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:41,000 And so in 2013 at the end of 2000. 851 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200 No, no. Sorry, spring of 2013. 852 00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:48,000 Isis breaks off from Al-Qaeda, and breaks off from Syrian. 853 00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,300 Al-Qaeda. The Syrian dominated faction of 854 00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:53,900 al-Qaeda in Iraq, and says, we're independent, and we're 855 00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:57,700 creating an Islamic State, and they declare an Islamic State in 856 00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:01,700 eastern Syria. Okay, then a year later, they 857 00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:06,300 roll into Western Iraq, and they conquer all of Western Iraq this 858 00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:07,900 whole time. Obama still back in the 859 00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:10,300 terrorists, who are, you know, all the guns and the money, and 860 00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:13,800 the fighters are going to Worst actors which are on the threat 861 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,300 and Isis. So this was 100 percent Petraeus 862 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:22,400 and John Brennan's doing and, and, and Barack Obama's doing. 863 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,200 I mean, they made this happen. And so once they rolled into 864 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,000 Iraq and conquered Iraq, then Obama launched a rock were three 865 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,300 in order to destroy the Islamic State caliphate and drive them 866 00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:37,000 back out because it wasn't supposed to be that big and bad 867 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,200 right there. Trying to hurt Assad, in 868 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,300 Damascus, and drive, Assad out of power and emasculate. 869 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,900 Because they weren't trying to turn all of Western Iraq into 870 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,800 Bin Laden, Stan, like officially, because that's just 871 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,200 embarrassing. They were happy to see the 872 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,000 Shiites under that pressure. The guys that they wish they 873 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,900 hadn't fought a wreck or 24, but then eventually they had to 874 00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:58,700 come. And then so Obama launched the 875 00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:02,800 war in August of 2014 and ended right around a year later, you 876 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,100 know, end of the summer of 2017 was when they finished, roasting 877 00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:11,200 them out of mosul and in Western Iraq and Syria, and raqqa. 878 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,200 And Eastern Syria. And so now, you know what we 879 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,600 call? Isis is just al-Qaeda in Iraq, 880 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,100 from Iraq, war two. And, you know, again just the 881 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,100 longest story short there, never was Al Qaeda in Iraq at all, 882 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:29,000 until that war, Bush came in and, you know, really created 883 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,400 their ground for Al Qaeda in Iraq to grow into this giant 884 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,900 Menace and then amazingly and luckily almost a miracle, the 885 00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:39,100 local Iraqi Sunni population. Got so sick of their crap that 886 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,300 they killed him. And they just marginalized. 887 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,000 The hell out of them and made them, you know, the Iraqi tribes 888 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600 did and just reduce their numbers to almost nothing. 889 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,600 And then in 2011 Obama comes and puts him, right? 890 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,600 Just resuscitate some right back to life. 891 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,700 Again, puts a bunch of guns and money in their hand, to take 892 00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:58,300 their War to Syria. And so, I mean, it's just and 893 00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:00,400 it's to be clear. It's not because Obama's a 894 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,800 secret Muslim from Kenya. Like the right-wingers believe 895 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,000 it's because he's George w--. Bush is because America puts 896 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:09,900 Saudi Arabia and Israel's interest first and they hate the 897 00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:13,200 Shiites more. Iran and Iran's friends and who 898 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,500 benefited especially from Iraq war two. 899 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,400 And so now the Americans are trying to make up for that by 900 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,800 sucking up to the king of Saudi Arabia by backing his terrorist 901 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,900 forces wherever they are. Whether in Libya in Syria, or in 902 00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,800 Yemen. The title of the book is enough 903 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,400 already time to end the war on terror. 904 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,200 Is that correct? Yeah war on terrorism here. 905 00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:37,600 You see excellent. Yes, enough already time to end 906 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,400 the war on terrorism. Scott, Horton. 907 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,800 Thank you so much for your time. As always. 908 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,400 Thank you Keith free shipping.